Boeing's design of 777-200LR [Archive]

Isan

July 22nd, 2004, 02:52 PM

777-200LR Series (772C)

Boeing claims the C-market 777-200LR will be the longest ranging airliner, capable of flying 8865 n.m. (16,400 km) for 18 hours. It will achieve this with huge 110,000 lbf (489 kN) thrust GE90-110B1 turbofans, a significantly increased MTOW and optional auxiliary fuel tanks in the rear cargo hold. Other new features include raked wingtips, a new main landing gear and additional structural strengthening.

The direct Airbus equivalent is the A340-500.

777-300ER Series (773B)

The B-market 777-300ER series is a long range version of 777-300, and is designed as a replacement for the 747-400. This is a result of Boeing's strategy to target the 747 series as cargo freighters rather than passenger aircraft.

The 777-300ER contains many modifications, including the GE90-115B engines, which are currently the world's most powerful jet engine with 115,300 lbf (513 kN) thrust. Other features include raked wingtips, a new main landing gear, extra fuel tanks, as well as strengthened fuselage, wings, empennage, nose gear, engine struts and nacelles. The range has increased to 7,250 n.m. (13,400 km) with a 365-passenger three-class configuration. The 777-300ER programme was launched by Air France, though for political reasons, Japan Airlines was advertised as the launch customer.

The direct Airbus equivalent is the A340-600.

Some Boeing 777 facts

The 777-300ER is the second-largest commercial passenger airplane after the 747-400 and has been tested with a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 351 metric tons.

The 777's undercarriage is the largest ever incorporated into a commercial jetliner, and its tyres are the largest ever fitted to a commercial aircraft.
The 777-300ER has been tested flying with only one working engine for as long as six hours 29 minutes over the Pacific Ocean as part of its ETOPS trials. (Note: 3 hours successful and reliable operation of one-engine-out is sufficient for ETOPS 180-min certification, based on current rules.)

The GE90 engines fitted on some 777 have a diameter larger than that of a 737 fuselage. The Guinness Book of World Records recognized the GE90-115B, powering the 777-300ER and 777-200LR, as the "World's Most Powerful Commercial Jet Engine" with a tested thrust of 127,900 lbf (569 kN).

The longest ETOPS-related emergency flight diversion (192 min. under one engine power) was conducted on a United Airlines' Boeing 777-200ER, carrying 255 passengers, on March 17, 2003 over the southern Pacific ocean

Full in detail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777)

huaiwei

July 22nd, 2004, 04:52 PM

Seriously, it makes me wonder if SIA is going to do the A343-B777 thingy again....especially with Boeing this desperate nowadays!

zergcerebrates

July 23rd, 2004, 12:31 PM

Looks like Airbus is winning.

huaiwei

July 23rd, 2004, 12:38 PM

Looks like Airbus is winning.
In what sense?

zergcerebrates

July 23rd, 2004, 12:39 PM

In what sense?

Confidence, sales and customer loyalty.

huaiwei

July 23rd, 2004, 12:50 PM

Well I wont exactly put it down in that way..both have made huge gambles, and both might actually win at the same time. Who noes if both the 7E7 as well as the A380 end up as winners regardless of each other's presence?

Anyway, this particular thread will be more of this B777-200LR vs the A340-500 and to some extent, the -600 range as well. At present I am still undecided if this boeing aircraft will have that extra edge, considering the small premium it has over the other in terms of range alone. Better comparisons should be feasible later as more details comes in I suppose.

Isan

July 23rd, 2004, 01:32 PM

By JAMES WALLACE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

The Airbus A380 "whaleJet" does not pose as much of a threat to Boeing as the company's critics say, even though it will supplant Boeing's 747 as the queen of the skies in a couple of years, according to noted aviation expert Michael Boyd.

Rather, it is the new Airbus A340-500 that represents the bigger threat to Boeing, according to Boyd, president of Boyd Group Aviation Systems Research in Evergreen, Colo.

The new Airbus plane, which entered service with Emirates Airlines in October, can fly farther than any other jetliner, making possible non-stop ultra-long-range routes to city pairs nearly half way around the world from each other.

Boeing won't have a plane in service that can match or beat the performance of the Airbus A340-500 for another two years, but already the two jet makers are locked in a fierce market battle -- one that is likely to intensify this year. Boeing is generally considered to have had the upper hand until now with its popular 777 matched against the Airbus A340. But the next couple of years will see whether Airbus can maintain its head start advantage with the A340-500, as well as a bigger but shorter-range version called the A340-600.

"If it works out as Airbus expects, it could be a major chink in Boeing's armor, opening new potential for Airbus to get into the U.S. 747-400 or 777 operators," Boyd wrote, referring to the A340-500 in the Boyd Group quarterly report.

Late yesterday, Singapore Airlines began operating an A340-500 on the longest non-stop route ever attempted by a commercial jetliner with passengers -- from Los Angeles to Singapore, a distance of more than 9,000 miles. Fighting headwinds, the flight from LAX to Singapore's Changi airport is scheduled to take 18 hours and 20 minutes, about two and half hours more than the return flight to Los Angeles.

Curiously, though, this new non-stop Singapore Airlines flight on an Airbus A340-500 may actually help spur Boeing sales.

After the airline industry's worst-ever downturn the past couple of years, the market is beginning to gradually come back, said Rob Faye, regional director for product marketing in Boeing Commercial Airplanes.

"We see people opening up the long-range market like Singapore and Emirates," he said. "And the momentum is going to start building when you have this new Singapore service. You will see more airlines that had been thinking about it say, 'this is now a reality.' So some momentum is going to build, probably over this year and early next year."

"You will see some significant sales for our 777-200LR," Faye predicted. But he acknowledged the Airbus head start has given it an early boost. "In the short run, they do have an advantage. They will get some sales. The problem with that is the airlines are probably buying the wrong airplane for them."

Boeing certainly isn't conceding anything to Airbus.

The two-engine 777-300ER, which will compete against the four-engine A340-600 that has been in service for about two years, is wrapping up a yearlong flight test program, with performance even better than expected, according to Boeing. The first 777-300ER (for extended range) will be delivered to Air France -- the international carrier in Airbus's backyard -- in April.

But Boeing's answer to the newer four-engine A340-500 is the two-engine 777-200LR, which will have even more range than the Airbus jet. Only 50 percent of the engineering design work on the 777-200LR has been completed, however, and the plane is not expected to enter service until early 2006.

In the meantime, Airbus has won some high-profile early order battles.

Airbus lists 20 firm orders for the A340-500, although two of those are from bankrupt Air Canada. That's 15 more orders than Boeing has won for its 777-200LR (the LR stands for longer range). Boeing has only two firm customers for the plane. EVA Air in Taiwan has ordered three planes and Pakistan International Airlines has placed two orders.

Boeing is hoping recent performance of the 777-300ER during flight testing will lead to orders for both the 777-300ER and 777-200LR.

The range of the 365-passenger 777-300ER has been improved since the program was announced in 2000. It is now out to 8,861 miles (7,700 nautical miles). The maximum take-off weight has also gone up. And fuel performance is 1.5 percent better than expected.

Boeing says the range and payload improvements should spill over into the 777-200LR and provide a marketing boost. The 301-passenger 777-200LR will have a maximum range of about 10,587 miles. The A340-500, which Airbus maintains can carry up to 313 passengers in three classes, has a range of about 9,782 miles.

Airbus isn't standing still, though. It is already developing an extended range A340-600 high-gross-weight version, with the launch orders provided by Emirates and Qatar Airways at last year's Paris Air Show. Emirates has ordered 18 of this newer model, which will be able to fly about 750 miles farther than the current A340-600, or carry more payload. The A340-600 and 777-300ER are capable of making non-stop flights of 14 hours or more.

Boeing's current 777 family has had great success since the first plane entered service with United in 1995, but industry analysts are unsure whether the 777-300ER and the 777-200LR will be as successful against the A340-500 and A340-600.

"Anyone without a 777 is either not a global player or Lufthansa," said Richard Aboulafia, senior aviation analyst with the Teal Group, an industry consulting firm. But Boeing and Airbus are more likely to split the market with their respective new longer-range planes, he said.

When Boeing announced in early 2000 that it would launch development of the new longer-range versions of the 777, it estimated the market for the 777-300ER and 777-200LR to be about 500 planes.

It did not break down the market further, but the bulk of orders will go to the 777-300ER and A340-600. That's because the A340-500 and 777-200LR are competing in a niche market.

As the range of planes increases beyond about 9,200 miles, there are few city pairs of any consequence to be connected.

"We are just about there," Boeing's Faye said when asked how much range more beyond the 777-200LR is really needed.

"Once past where we are now (10,587 miles with the 777-200LR), you are getting into a market that is so thin in terms of city pairs that are significant enough to handle the kind of traffic you would need for the airplane that it may not make sense."

As one of Boeing's marketing leaders, Faye can instantly provide a wealth of charts with facts showing why the two Boeing planes are superior to the two from Airbus. Airbus marketing people, of course, have just as much data supporting the superiority of their planes.

Emirates Airlines provides a good case study of the relative merits of the four jets from Boeing and Airbus, at least from the perspective of one important customer.

At the Paris Air Show in 2003, Emirates placed firm orders for the 18 A340-600 higher gross weight planes and ordered additional A340-500s -- it now has 10 on order. Emirates also leased 26 777-300ER jets from International Lease Finance Corp. and from General Electric Capital Services.

Emirates President Tim Clark, in an interview, said he and others at Emirates carefully weighed the Boeing and Airbus planes before deciding to buy from Airbus.

The airline already operates the basic 777-300 and "loves" the airplane, Clark said.

"It's a mean machine. It has transformed our economics," Clark said. "On routes that have been a bit marginal, as soon as the 777 hits we go immediately to profits. It's a beautiful airplane."

The 777 has many advantages, he added. It flies faster than the Airbus plane, has a wider fuselage and the interior is popular with passengers.

But when it came down to buying planes last year, Emirates went with Airbus.

"In a nutshell, the Boeing planes were more expensive," Clark said. At the time, sales had slowed for the 777-300ER and the two leasing companies needed to find customers for their planes.

They made Emirates a super deal on leasing the 26 777-300ERs, Clark said.

"Boeing really has to sort itself out and bring that cost of ownership down for us," Clark said.

The A340-500 has a list price of from $185 million to $189.8 million. The 777-200LR has a list price ranging from $188 million to $213.5 million.

But list prices mean little. Airlines are able to negotiate steep discounts of as much as 30 percent or more from the manufacturers.

Boeing is well aware that it continues to lose important campaigns to Airbus because it can't beat its rival on pricing.

So the company's commercial airplanes business is transforming itself from an airplane maker into one that does final assembly. That's the model for the new 7E7. Suppliers will build the pieces, and bear the higher labor costs and overhead.

The end objective for Boeing is being able to sell planes for less and beat Airbus.

Emirates was looking for planes that could perform well on routes in its network of from 12 to 14 hours, and on the ultra-long-range routes of from 16 to 19 hours.

The new higher gross weight A340-4600 is better suited for the 14-hour routes, Clark said, with the 777-300ER to be used on the 12-hour routes in the Emirates structure.

The A340-500 will be used on those longest routes, such as Dubai to Los Angeles, a flight of just over 16 hours.

With its slightly higher speed, the 777-200LR could make the trip from Dubai to Los Angeles about 40 minutes faster, Clark said. But he is not sure that Emirates will be a customer for the Boeing plane.

All the advantages that Boeing argues for its 777-200LR over the A340-500, such as lower maintenance costs along with better range and payload capability, are "negated by the cost of ownership," Clark said.

"It was not just price but the whole range of benefits that came with the Airbus package," Clark said, referring to last year's huge order at the Paris Air Show. "We tried our best to persuade Boeing, to make them understand that when your competitor is seducing you with a range of benefits for an order this size, why wouldn't they (Boeing ) do that. But Boeing had to draw a line in the sand. ...

"Their plane (the 777-200LR) will be a great machine. But they have to address pricing issues."

Prestonian

July 23rd, 2004, 10:55 PM

Interesting article, thanks for posting it :) I think the 777 is a really good looking plane and the cabins always look great. It's amazing to see how well Airbus is now competing with Boeing, it is really going to give the airline industry some great aircraft to choose from in the future.

Isan

August 1st, 2004, 04:45 PM

Emirates, the award-winning Dubai-based international airline, already has 69 Boeing and Airbus jets, including 29 Airbus A330-200s, 12 Boeing 777-300s, nine Boeing 777-200s, five Airbus 340-500s, eight A340-300s, one Airbus A310 and five Boeing 747 freighters.

The airline's order book includes 45 Airbus A380-800s, 30 Boeing 777-300ERs plus nine options, four more ultra-long-range Airbus A340-500s and 20 Airbus A340-600 Higher Gross Weight aircraft, amounting to a total of USD $28 billion. By 2012 Emirates said it expects to have twice as many jets in its fleet as it does today.

29 July 2004
Emirates raises Euro 91 Million for new Ultra-Long Airbus

HasanB

August 1st, 2004, 08:26 PM

With a total of ten customers, Airbus currently holds 20 and 44 firm orders and 20 and 23 options for the A340-500 and -600, respectively. This figure compares to Boeing's six customers, 3+4 commitments for the 777-200LR and 46+26 for the 777-300ER. The competition of the A340-500/-600, the diverging philosophies imposed by the A380 or the Sonic Cruiser, as well as poor economic conditions will probably pressure the 777X sales in the coming years and may call for further product development. :)

Customer for 777-200LR

EVA Airways 3/4 (option)
Pakistan Airlines 2/3 *

Customer for 777-300ER

Air France 10/10
GECAS 10/10
Japan Airlines 8/2

Source from AirTransportBiz.com

Another news (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/159226_boeairbus04.html)

In relation to PIA they will be the launch customer for the Boeing 777-200LR and will recieve the aircrafts sometime in 2006, it has already acquired 3 Boeing 777-200ERs and will later on also get some 777-300ERs.

Isan

August 6th, 2004, 03:15 PM

Boeing Commercial Aviation Services Crew Information Services (CIS) group will install the Boeing Electronic Flight Bag (EFB) on board 15 new Boeing 777s for Taiwan-based EVA Air (EVA).

'We are excited to be a customer for the EFB,' said Capt. Jackson Chu, executive vice president Flight Operations for EVA. 'This new technology will help us reach new levels of safety, security and efficiency.'

EVA Air is the launch customer of EFB in the East Asia region..

'EVA Air long has been a great partner for Boeing,' said Ray Marzullo, vice president, Boeing Commercial Airplanes Aviation Service. 'The airline's continued investment in advanced technology is a great example of their unrelenting commitment to high quality and reliable service.'

The EFB can carry all documentation and forms carried by the pilots – aeronautical charts, manuals for fault reporting and operations, minimum equipment lists and logbooks – all in digital format at the crew’s fingertips. It also includes an on-board performance tool that allows the pilot to calculate the ideal speeds and engine setting for an aircraft instantly, in any weather, on any runway, with any payload.

In addition, it can enhance runway situational awareness: The EFB integrates geo-referencing technology with airport taxi charts to show flight crews exactly where they are on the tarmac. The EFB also gives flight crews a viewer for monitoring the Flight Deck Door area, helping them meet new and anticipated regulatory requirements.

EVA will use a hard-mounted “Class 3” version of the EFB comprising software from Boeing subsidiary Jeppesen and electronics and display hardware from Astronautics Corp. of America on its aircraft. Boeing CIS received FAA certification for its Class 3 EFB in October 2003, when the first commercial unit was delivered to KLM Royal Dutch Airlines.

Under the agreement, EVA will have an EFB system installed, certified and delivered on the 15 777s that it has on order. EVA will receive its first EFB-carrying 777 in mid 2005

Installation of an EFB gives EVA a first step into the future of the e-enabled air transport system. Boeing intends to offer content, applications, and services that connect all the data generated by an entire flight operation – in the air, on the ground and in the hangar -- meaningful to all users: pilots, mechanics, flight attendants, operations departments and airport users – and other potential customers.

http://www.evaair.com/image/global/chinese/latest_news/EFB.jpg

Isan

August 6th, 2004, 03:38 PM

Boeing’s innovative overhead rest area for pilots, available exclusively on the long-range 777 family of airplanes, now is certified for occupancy during taxi, takeoff, and landing. Relief pilots now can be seated comfortably in the overhead rest without interruption at the beginning and end of long-range flights, freeing up premium seats in the main cabin for revenue passengers.

The updated certification by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and Europe’s Joint Aviation Authority creates additional value for airlines that operate long-range 777s with the overhead flight crew rest.

“Airlines want to maximize the earning potential of all their flights,” said Lars Andersen, Longer Range 777 program manager. “We worked closely with our customers to develop a crew-pleasing, revenue-generating crew rest and storage solution that is simply not available from our competitor.”

Boeing estimates that the crew rests could generate between $4.9 and $11.25 million in additional revenue over 20 years for an airline.

The pilot rest area includes two spacious sleeping berths, two business-class-comfort seats, and an area for optional amenities such as a closet, sink, or lavatory. Leading airlines currently operating the overhead flight crew rest, including KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, are not only pleased with the additional revenue generation, but have received very positive reviews from their pilots.

“KLM’s 777 pilots appreciate the spaciousness and complete privacy of the rest area,” said Michel Coumans, Senior Vice President, Fleet Services, KLM. “The resulting benefit is having more seats available to passengers in our World Business Class cabin.”

By taking advantage of the overhead area of the airplane – located between the top of the stow bins and the crown of the airplane – for crew rest stations and storage, airlines can use the main and lower decks exclusively for revenue-generating passengers and cargo. Operators of the 777-200ER (Extended Range) and 777-200LR (Longer Range) can save up to four passenger seats and four cargo containers, while the 777-300ER saves up to seven seats and six cargo containers.

Overhead rest quarters for flight attendants are also available with no sacrifice to the passenger-pleasing 777 interior. The 777-200ER and 777-200LR are provisioned for a six-bunk attendant rest station, with some personal stowage for the attendants. The 777-300ER has options for a six-, eight- or ten-bunk arrangement. In addition to the bunks and personal storage, airlines can add optional stowage to the module. All are accessed through private and secure entry doors in the economy class section.

The 777’s overhead rests are unique, since the bunks are not stacked vertically on top of each other. Also, flight crews are no longer required to descend into crew rests traditionally located in the airplane’s cargo hold. The innovation has not only delighted airlines such as Air France with increased cargo capacity, but also has pleased flight attendants who have enjoyed the spaciousness and privacy found overhead on the 777.

“Air France flight attendants prefer the privacy, comfort, and increased personal space found ‘upstairs’ on our all-new 777-300ER aircraft,” said Nicolas Bertrand, Long Haul Fleet Director, Air France. “The additional cargo capacity that results is a tremendous benefit to us – more revenue.”

The overhead space innovations were developed in cooperation with 19 airlines, and included a team comprised of pilots, flight attendants, and engineers. The “Working Together” team spent over three years creating and perfecting the design, focusing on factors that contribute to getting a good rest.

To date, Boeing has 81 orders for its 777-300ER and 777-200LR, and every customer wants crew-rest modules. Three customers have ordered 777-200ERs with the overhead crew-rest option.

http://boeingmedia.com/boeingmedia/img/R47w/R47ws.jpg

http://boeingmedia.com/boeingmedia/img/R47u/R47us.jpg

Isan

August 6th, 2004, 04:03 PM

(Source : Boeing Co.; issued June 11, 2002)

EVERETT, Wash. --- Boeing engineers have released to manufacturing 90 percent of the design drawings necessary to build the 777-300ER (extended range) airplane. This means that design work on this first of two new longer-range 777s is nearly complete and signifies that the program is moving from the design to production phase.

"We've released more than 10,000 engineering events," said Roger Houck, Longer-Range 777 deputy chief project engineer. "Now, with most of the engineering drawings complete, program partners and suppliers around the world have begun manufacturing the first detailed parts."

A unique aspect of the program is that the design team consisted of designers from multiple continents. The 777-300ER represents one of the first large-scale commercial airplane efforts to design and build globally.

Much of the 777 airplane structure, which includes fuselage panels, the wing center section assembly, wing-to-body fairings, passenger entry doors and wing inspar ribs, is produced by a consortium of Japanese aerospace manufacturers including Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Kawasaki Heavy Industries, Fuji Heavy Industries, Shinmaywa and Nippi.

Many of these components will change to accommodate 777-300ER requirements. When completed, they will be shipped to Boeing's assembly plant in Everett, Wash.

In addition to being the current flap track fairing and wing tip supplier for the 777 program, Korean Air Lines, Aerospace Division, will manufacture the airplane's new wingbox extension and raked wing tips.

Each 777-300ER wing is being extended by 6.5 feet (1.98 meters), and raked wingtips are being added to improve the overall aerodynamic efficiency. The raked wingtips help reduce takeoff field length, increase climb performance and reduce fuel burn.

Major European suppliers that continue to be involved in production of the newest 777 include:

--Spain - Constructionnes Aeronauticas SA continues to produce the 777s, ailerons, flaperons and radome;
--Italy - Alenia Aerospazio continues to produces the 777s outboard flaps; and
--United Kingdom - BAE Systems produces the fixed leading edges and Smiths Aerospace produces the electrical load management system and fuel quality indicating systems.

Major U.S. firms that continue to be involved in production of the newest 777 include:

--Goodrich, which produces the main and nose landing gear;
--Honeywell, which produces the Airplane Information Management System and various other systems;
--Hamilton Sundstrand, which produces multiple environmental control system and electrical systems and components; and
--Vought, which produces spoilers and flaps.

Boeing anticipates a market demand for more than 500 of these longer-range 777 models, with about 45 percent of those airplanes going to Asian operators.

The two new 777s, the 777-200LR and 777-300ER will extend the range of the 777 airplane family, while providing airlines with the ability to increase revenue. For example, an airline flying a 777-300 with 365 passengers and 2,000 pounds of cargo (900 kilograms) from Los Angeles to Tokyo could carry an additional 43,500 pounds (19,700 kilograms) of cargo on the new 777-300ER.

On longer routes currently served by the 777-200ER, such as from Paris to Los Angeles, the 777-300ER can fly that same route carrying an additional 78 passengers and 4,000 pounds (1,800 kilograms) of cargo. On even longer flights, such as from New York to Hong Kong, the 777-200LR can carry 22 more passengers and 35,000 pounds (15,900 kilograms) more cargo than the 777-200ER.

In addition, when the 777-300ER enters service in 2004, it will have a lower empty weight than originally forecast, increasing maximum payload carried on all routes by 1,000 pounds (450 kilograms) for both models.

The Boeing 777 longer-range airplanes will have seat-mile costs that are 15 to 18 percent lower than the A340-500 and A340-600 models. Fuel burn is considerably lower - 21 to 22 percent lower for the longer-range 777s - when compared to the A340-500 and A340-600. The 777 also takes advantage of new technology that makes maintenance more efficient and lowers costs.

In a typical three-class configuration, the 777-300ER will transport 365 passengers 7,250 nautical miles (13,427 kilometers). The 777-200LR will transport 301 passengers up to 8,865 nautical miles (16,417 kilometers).

The fuel-efficient, twin-engine Longer-Range 777 airplanes will be powered by a higher-thrust derivative of the General Electric GE90 engine that is offered on the existing 777s. The derivative engine will provide 115,000 pounds of thrust - the most ever on a commercial jetliner.

The 777 family of airplanes has captured 68 percent of its market, with more than 30 customers worldwide having ordered 600 airplanes. This includes 49 Longer-Range 777s ordered by six customers including: Japan Airlines, Air France, All Nippon Airways, EVA Airways, GE Capital Aviation Services and International Lease Finance Corp.

Boeing also is developing two new Longer-Range 747-400s, one a passenger airplane and the other a freighter. The first of these airplanes rolls out of the factory later this month, and delivers to launch customer Qantas Airways in October. These longer-range 747-400s complement the 777 family, and together, the two airplane programs form the backbone of the Boeing long-range airplane strategy.

Major assembly of the first 777-300ER begins June 20.

TallBox

August 6th, 2004, 04:12 PM

The 777 is the best aircraft Boeing have ever made - both in aesthetics and performance.

Lee

August 9th, 2004, 04:17 AM

Will be while before this will go public (my source doesn't yet know the carrier they're going to be for)...

...but GECAS has now firmed the LOI it placed for eight 777-26NLRs. First delivery is scheduled 11/06, with the order completed in 8/09.

With the huge order expected from Singapore, one can expect it to replace the A345 with the even longer ranged 777LR

zergcerebrates

August 9th, 2004, 12:41 PM

Those resting modules are cool.

Isan

August 11th, 2004, 07:40 AM

777 are really cool dedign apart form any airbus 330/340 indeed :)

The interior amenity is extraordinary amazing not only for those claimed as Hi-Tech but also admire for cozy enviornment that spaciously & comfort, withouting to any stress of oppression especially in long-haul flight :okay:

Take a close-up for existing model 777-300 :)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid123/p8c7ed60de2feebb1944dd23b91c25d7f/f82dbdac.jpg

huaiwei

September 1st, 2004, 05:49 PM

With the huge order expected from Singapore, one can expect it to replace the A345 with the even longer ranged 777LR
SIA did indeed make a 31-plane order for the B777-300ER just recently....but no dreamliner yet! :D

And yeah, if it keeps doing this, it wont be long before it replaces the A345 with the B777-200LR too. It just dosent make alot of sense to have only 5 planes from one make when there are over 100 other planes in the B777 family already by then!

Isan

October 12th, 2004, 05:18 AM

Continental Airlines is to increase its nonstop service between Hong Kong and New York/Newark Liberty to six times a week from October 17.

With a flight time of a little over 15 hours, Continental flies the spacious 777 aircraft which is fitted with personal entertainment in every seat.

"We are continuing to listen to our valued Hong Kong travelers and responding with a flight schedule that is both flexible and highly competitive. Over the summer period we boosted our frequency to six flights a week and will do so again from October 17 with the added bonus of a very competitive fare. For the convenience of our passengers traveling over the holiday period, we will be providing a daily service over the Christmas period," said Kenneth Yeung, Country Director of Hong Kong & China, Continental Airlines.

"Our Hong Kong BusinessFirst passengers benefit from an array of services specifically designed to meet their needs, including a limousine service to and from Hong Kong airport, best-in-class BusinessFirst seats as well as the excellent facilities at our Newark hub airport with new customs and immigration facilities. There is also the added convenience of the AirTrain service which allows passenger to go from Newark Airport to mid-town Manhattan in about 30 minutes," Mr Yeung said.

Isan

October 12th, 2004, 05:51 AM

1. Aeroflot

2. Air Austral

3. Air China

4. Air Europe

5. Air France

6. All Nippon Airways

7. Alitalia

8. American Airlines

9. Asiana Airlines

10. Austrian Airlines/Lauda Air

11. British Airways

12. Cathay Pacific Airways

13. China Southern

14. Continental Airlines

15. Delta Airlines

16. EL AL

17. Emirates

18. Eygpt Air

19. Japan Airlines

20. Japan Air System

21. KLM

22. Korean Air Lines

22. Kuwait Airways

24. Malaysia Airlines

25. Saudi Arabian Airways

26. Singapore Airlines

27. Thai Airways

28. United Airlines

29. Varig Brasil

30. Vietnam Airlines

Nick in Atlanta

October 12th, 2004, 05:51 AM

http://boeingmedia.com/boeingmedia/img/R47w/R47ws.jpg

Hey, these F/As look a little lonely. Looks like I might have to check out this little "rest area." :) :runaway:

Oh, by the way, that GE engine that was producing 127,000 lbs. of thrust is incredible. I believe the A380's four engines will be able to produce 67,000 lbs. of thrust each, for a total of around 280,000 lbs.

Isan

November 4th, 2004, 02:39 AM

Boeing and All Nippon Airways (ANA) have marked two milestones, as ANA received its first 777-300ER (Extended Range) and, with that airplane, became the first Asia-based carrier with the Connexion by Boeing SM high-speed mobile Internet service in its fleet. ANA will launch its newest service on November 15 of this year on the airplane's inaugural flight from Tokyo, Japan, to Shanghai, People's Republic of China.

This delivery is the latest highlight of a milestone year for Boeing and ANA. In April the companies launched the all-new Boeing 7E7 with ANA's 50-plane order, the largest launch order for any Boeing jet.

"This new 777-300ER symbolizes a great relationship that spans more than four decades," said Boeing Commercial Airplanes Vice President, Sales-Asia/Pacific Larry Dickenson. "It will expand this important partnership to new horizons."

ANA is a 777-300ER launch customer. As the newest member of the market-leading 777 family, the 777-300ER provides superior efficiency, economics and passenger comfort. ANA's first 777-300ER carries 269 passengers -- eight in first class, 63 in business class, 24 in premium economy class, and 174 in economy class. The airplane can fly up to 7,705 nautical miles (14,270 kilometers) on routes such as New York-Tokyo and Tokyo-London.

"We firmly believe that the 777-300ER will provide our passengers with the best comfort, reliability and safety, on our long range, direct routes," said ANA President and CEO Yoji Ohashi. "The low operating cost, renowned passenger approval, and the revenue capability are among the primary reasons we selected this great airplane."

The airplane delivered is ANA's 26th Boeing 777, and the first of six 777-300ERs the Tokyo-based carrier will receive by the end of 2007. It is also the second 777 ANA received in the past week, following an earlier delivery of a 777-200.

Starting with this airplane, ANA is equipping its long-haul fleet with the Connexion by Boeing SM service.

"ANA is positioning itself as a leader in passenger service by providing the added value that mobile connectivity can bring to the travel experience and to airline operations," said Scott Carson, Connexion by Boeing president. "Real-time, affordable connectivity continues to be one of the most frequently requested passenger amenities in the airline industry and we are proud to help ANA address that need."

Isan

December 12th, 2004, 04:41 AM

Boeing and Singapore Airlines (SIA) have finalized an order for 18 Boeing 777-300ER (Extended Range) jetliners that makes the airline the world's largest 777 customer and ties the record for the largest order of the 777-300ER.

With this order, valued at $4.1 billion at list prices, SIA has ordered a total of 77 of the twin-engine airplane family models. International Lease Finance Corp. is the only other customer to order 18 Boeing 777-300ERs. This also brings total 777-300ER orders to 104 airplanes.

"We are tremendously pleased that Singapore Airlines, a world-class carrier and a long-time partner, has joined our long-range 777 family," said Larry Dickenson, vice president – Asia Pacific Sales, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "The 777-300ER will provide superior operating efficiency, an excellent cabin experience for the passenger and commonality with the airline's extensive 777 fleet."

The 777-300ER, powered by General Electric GE90-115B engines, will allow SIA to achieve its growth targets and maintain the airline's fleet as one of the industry's youngest, with an average age of just five years.

"The high-technology avionics and materials, combined with its higher operating efficiency allow the 777-300ER to deliver lower operating costs,” said SIA Chief Executive Officer Chew Choon Seng. “The new airplane will integrate well with our extensive 777 fleet, which has proven very popular among travelers.”

The 777-300ER, seating about 365 passengers and with a range of 7,880 nautical miles, will be deployed on SIA's long-haul and medium-haul routes.

Isan

December 12th, 2004, 05:03 AM

Boeing today delivered the first Malaysia Airlines System (MAS) 777-200ER (Extended Range) airplane incorporating the Class 3 Boeing Electronic Flight Bag (EFB), making the airline the first in the Asia/Pacific region to use the EFB.

Malaysia Airlines is equipping two 777-200ERs with the EFB, which gives pilots a range of information that helps them fly more safely, securely and efficiently.

“These new 777s are a perfect fit for our long-distance routes,” said Dato’ Ahmad Fuaad Mohd Dahlan, managing director for Malaysia Airlines. “And with the EFB, we’re looking forward to even higher levels of efficiency, reliability and excellence.”

The EFB has many applications from Boeing subsidiary Jeppesen: electronic terminal charts; a Performance Tool that helps crews take off and land at maximum efficiency; electronic documents such as fault-reporting, maintenance and minimum equipment lists; a viewer for cabin-surveillance cameras; and the award-winning Taxi Position Awareness tool, which shows pilots exactly where they are at the airport.

Malaysia Airlines’ new 777s will also be the first commercial airplanes delivered with provisions for Terminal Wireless LAN systems. Those systems one day will interface on the ground with airport systems at high speeds and high bandwidth. The EFB and Terminal Wireless LAN systems are important steps toward an e-enabled air transport system.

Along with the EFB, the airline is incorporating a new décor in the award-winning Boeing Signature Interior, which is known for its ambient lighting and accessible luggage bins.

“Boeing and Malaysia Airlines have been setting new standards with the 777s since MAS’ first 777-200 – dubbed the Super Ranger – broke two world records in 1997 for speed and distance as it flew nonstop from Seattle to Kuala Lumpur then back to Seattle commemorating the 50th anniversary of Malaysia Airlines,” said Boeing Commercial Airplanes Senior Vice President, Sales and President of Boeing Aircraft Trading, Dinesh Keskar. “With enhanced efficiency as a result from the introduction of EFB and more comfort for passengers with its new seats, MAS is bound to yet again reiterate its leadership in the region.”

MAS’ new 777-200ER carries up to 289 passengers in two-classes: 42 in business and 247 in economy. It can fly 7,730 nautical miles (14,316 kilometers) on routes such as Zurich-Kuala Lumpur and Kuala Lumpur-Sydney.

The new airplane delivered is the 14th of 15 Boeing 777-200ERs the Kuala Lumpur-based carrier will receive.

Isan

December 16th, 2004, 08:15 AM

15 December 2004

Saudi-based VIP carrier MidEast Jet is to become the first 777 operator to retrofit that airplane with the Boeing Class 3 Electronic Flight Bag (EFB).

While three 777 operators had EFBs installed during production, MidEast Jet is the first to have the system installed after the airplane was delivered.

"The Boeing EFB delivers technology benefits in a digital format," said David Thomas, MidEast Jet director of operations. "Adding it reduces the amount of charts, manuals and logbooks our pilots are used to carrying."

Boeing Commercial Aviation Services will install the EFB on MidEast Jet's 777-200ER in Germany and then redeliver to MidEast Jet.

The EFB gives MidEast Jet technology advantages for safe, secure and efficient operations. It includes an on-board performance tool that allows the pilot to instantly calculate the ideal speed and engine setting for an aircraft, in any weather condition, on any runway -- or any runway section -- with any payload.

In addition, it includes the award-winning Jeppesen Airport Moving Map application, which combines high-fidelity, geo-referenced airport taxi charts and precise navigational signals to show flight crews exactly where they are on the surface of an airport. It also gives flight crews a viewer for cabin surveillance systems, helping meet new and anticipated regulatory requirements.

Isan

December 18th, 2004, 12:37 PM

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines is ordering two more Boeing 777-200ER jetliners, increasing its Boeing 777 fleet to 12 airplanes. The airplanes will be delivered during the first quarter of 2006. KLM uses 777-200ERs, which fly up to 14,316 kilometers (7,730 nautical miles) to connect its Amsterdam base to New York, Tokyo, Cape Town and Nairobi among other international destinations.

"The market-leading Triple Seven family is the fastest-selling airplane family in the history of twin aisle airplanes. And we're expanding the family with the 777-200LR -- the longest range jetliner -- and the 777 Freighter", said Marlin Dailey, vice president of sales for Europe, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "The 777-200ERs versatility allows for exceptional efficiency on routes across the Atlantic as well as to the Far East . With its high-performance wing, efficient engines and lighter structure, the 777 is significantly more fuel-efficient than competing products - about 16 percent better than other airplanes in its class."

KLM's 777s were the first airplanes in the world equipped with the new Boeing Electronic Flight Bag (EFB), which places all the information pilots need to fly the airplane at their fingertips in a digital format.

Nick in Atlanta

December 19th, 2004, 12:30 AM

Regarding the B777-200LR's range, I've seen it stated that it will be able to fly the London-Sydney route nonstop. Right now planes can fly from Western European cities (e.g., London, Amsterdam, Paris, Frankfurt) to any city and continent in the world, because Western Europe just has a very central location, but they can't fly to Australia nontop. With the 777-200LR, they will fill in that gap.

Lee

December 19th, 2004, 01:57 AM

There have been 104 777-300ER orders thus far.

Lee

December 19th, 2004, 02:06 AM

Ethiad has signed an agreement for 5 777-300ER

skynet126

December 19th, 2004, 05:50 AM

skynet126

December 19th, 2004, 05:53 AM

Oh one question, do anybody known how advance is the jumbo jet A380 plane compare to Boeing 777 or A340-600? I known that A380 can carry at least 500 passengers on board, but how much advance is this new plane when comparing to Boeing 777.

Lee

December 19th, 2004, 06:05 AM

I think all major airlines or airline that want to compete nationally should operates a 777 boeing jet. Cuz the old 747 boeing airplane is just too old, and not comfortable at all. Plus, 747 plane don't has any coll gadget on board, and the plane seat are totally dull :). When flying with any airlines, I prefer great foods and newer plane over any other options.

Your complaints on the 747 have absolutely nothing to do with the plane, but rather the airline. It's the airline who puts in the seats, gadgets, and of course food.

Lee

December 19th, 2004, 06:06 AM

I known that A380 can carry at least 500 passengers on board, but how much advance is this new plane when comparing to Boeing 777.

The A380 should be more advanced simply because it was launched 10 years after the 777, and 15 years after the A340 program-the 777 is more advanced than the 340. Likewise, the 7E7 will be more advanced than the A380.

Isan

December 19th, 2004, 07:39 AM

The 500th B777 had been launching to the market, handover to AF that Boeing was received total of 647 orders for 38 Airlines recently :)

huaiwei

December 19th, 2004, 06:52 PM

The 500th B777 had been launching to the market, handover to AF that Boeing was received total of 647 orders for 38 Airlines recently :)
Cool. :) Any updates on the 777-200LR btw?

ZuluKingOfTheDwarfPeople

December 19th, 2004, 06:55 PM

Cool. :) Any updates on the 777-200LR btw?

Yes, it seems that there has been an order by an unknown company for 5 777LR's. Many think it's GECAS who will then lease it to SIN.

ZuluKingOfTheDwarfPeople

December 19th, 2004, 06:59 PM

Boeing and Etihad Airways close deal for five 777-300ER's

Boeing and Etihad Airways today confirmed the airline's definitive order for five Boeing 777-300ER (Extended Range) airplanes valued at USD1.09 billion at list price.

The airplanes will be delivered in 2005, with the first delivery scheduled for October followed by two each in November and December. They are the first Boeing airplanes Etihad has ordered to join an expanding group of prominent carriers operating the 777 family.

'We do our utmost to meet the needs of our discerning passengers and we're pleased to be adding the 777-300ER to our fleet,' said Etihad Chairman H.E. Dr. Ahmed Bin Saif Al-Nahyan. 'Our objective is to build upon our status as one of the world's top quality airlines. We believe our reputation will be enhanced even further by making the most of the 777's wide, roomy cabin to create a distinctive experience for our guests.'

Etihad Airways noted that the early delivery date of these aircraft will advance its ability to provide service to new long haul routes. The new airplanes' capacity and range will facilitate the airline's expansion to new routes in Asia, Africa, Europe and North America.

'We continue to see significant orders for the 777 family, reinforcing the airplane's reputation for flying long-haul routes as efficiently as possible with unrivaled interior comfort for passengers,' said Lee Monson, Boeing Commercial Airplanes' vice president of sales for the Middle East and Africa. 'Early next year, we will raise the bar even further with the introduction of the 777-200LR (Longer Range) which will set the standard for long-haul, wide-body jetliners, carrying 301 passengers in spacious comfort and flying 9,420 nautical miles with full cargo loads while achieving unmatched fuel efficiency.'

In operation for just over a year, Etihad Airways is becoming known for its rapid growth and firm determination to build a national carrier operating out of Abu Dhabi that rivals the world's best international carriers. It has earned respect for its level of service and dedication to go beyond passenger expectations.

The Boeing 777 has consistently exceeded its initial performance specifications and is continually selected by passengers as the most preferred airplane in its class. The 777 dominates its market segment by a two-to-one margin, even after having been introduced two years later than its nearest competitors. Thirty-seven airlines have now ordered 665 Boeing 777s, making it the fastest selling twin-aisle airplane in history.

hkskyline

December 19th, 2004, 06:59 PM

Boeing Nears Completion of World's Longest Range Jetliner
Thursday December 16, 5:00 pm ET

EVERETT, Wash., Dec. 16 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The three main sections of the first Boeing 777-200LR (Longer Range), which will be the world's longest-range commercial airplane, were recently joined at the company's Everett, Wash. plant. The 777-200LR can carry 301 passengers up to 9,420 nautical miles (17,446 kilometers).

The first 777-200LR will be unveiled in February and begin flight-testing in March. First delivery is scheduled for the first quarter of 2006. Pakistan International Airlines and EVA Air are the airplane's first customers.

huaiwei

December 19th, 2004, 07:13 PM

Yes, it seems that there has been an order by an unknown company for 5 777LR's. Many think it's GECAS who will then lease it to SIN.
Er...your "SIN" refers to SIA?

Isan

December 19th, 2004, 07:34 PM

Cool. :) Any updates on the 777-200LR btw?

Adding up additionally:

Etihad Airways (EY) confirm order for 5 777-300ER. First delivery in October 2005 with all 5 delivered by yearend 2005.

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines (KL) orders two more 777-200ERs for delivery in early 2006.

Mid East Jet is first 777 operator to retrofit its 777 with the Electronic Flight Bag. KLM, PIA and Kenya already have it on their airplanes since they took delivery of them.

Singapore Airlines (SQ) order 18 777-300ER with options for 13 more. First delivery in 2006.

Boeing rolled out the 500th 777 last Friday for a crowd of thousands of enthustiastic employees. The 777 is the first twin-aisle aircraft to reach 500 deliveries and the fatestest of any twin-aise aircraft in history to reach that number. Delivery of this aircraft will be to ILFC and operated by Air France later this month.

A new order announced for 5 777-300ER by Unidentified Customer. This should be the order by Etihad (EY).

AeroMexico plans to lease two 777-200ER from ILFC. Contract to be signed soon. First delivery expected in Jan2006.

Boeing has started to offer the 777F for sale to airlines. It will be based on the 777-200LR. First dellivery should be in 2008.

The un-identified order for one 777-300ER is for ILFC and for lease to Air France

TAAG Angola (DT) thinking of ordering three 777s and may place an order next year.

Saudi Arabian Airlines (SV) will start to fly the 777 to New York (JFK) and Washington (IAD) on 31Oct04.

Air-India (AI) to lease 3 777-200ERs; N789UA, N790UA and N205UA. First delivery in Jan05 and the rest by Mar05. The 777s will be used on flights to Europe and the USA.

Boeing has started assembly of the first 777-200LR aircraft. The aircraft will be rolled out in Feb05 and start flight testing in Mar05 with first delivery to Pakistan International Airlines - PIA (PK) in Jan06. The aircraft can carry 301 passengers 9420 nautical miles (17 446 km).

Air Austral (UU) to fly Marseille (MRS) - Reunion (RUN) next year when they get one more 777 in service. They will also fly a 777 to Mayotte (DZA).

Libyan Arab Airlines (LN) may get 777s as a part of an expansion plan. More info to follow later.

Thai Airways International (TG)'s board has decided to order 6 more 777-200s. These will be the 6 first 777-200ER for Thai.

EVA Air (BR) will take delivery of their first 777-300ER in Aug05. First 777-200LR will be delivered to them in Jun06.

Thai Airways (TG) has started to reconfigure their 777-200s to 2-2-2 in Business Class and 3-3-3 in Economy class. This should be completed sometime ??.

Unidentified orders:

1 777-300ER placed on 29 June 2004 (AF)

5 777-300ER placed on 30 November 2004 (EY)

Boeing has sold 662 777s and 497 have been delivered.

Isan

December 21st, 2004, 06:26 AM

December 19 - 2004 at 10:41

Boeing and Etihad Airways today confirmed the airline's order for five Boeing 777-300ER aircraft valued at USD1bn. The planes will be delivered in 2005, with the first delivery scheduled for October followed by two each in November and December. They are the first Boeing airplanes Etihad has ordered.

Isan

January 8th, 2005, 05:03 PM

Mega carrier, Air France, has launched a major effort to boost its capacity on the Lagos-Paris route with the introduction of a B777-200ER (Extended Range) fully equipped with great comfort to make air travel more pleasurable.

The 270-seater wide body aircraft which made its entry into the Murtala Muhammed Airport, Lagos Monday evening is giving way to the 211 passenger capacity A330-200 which had served the route.

The airline's General Manager, Africa and Middle East, Piere de Saint-Albin said at a modest ceremony that the coming of the aircraft which has a three class configuration would address the problem of overbooking.

Configured in First Class with flat beds, Business Class and Economy offer passengers personal videos and telecommunications facilities.

According to Saint-Albin, "we are bringing to Nigeria, the best of the aircraft in the world at a time when many others are not having the First Class on their flights. Our aim is to offer the Nigerian market more seats at competitive prices".

Apart from personal videos and telecommunications facilities, the B777 aircraft also offers passngers a wide selection of newspapers and magazines in English, French, Spanish and Portuguese. Saint-Albin stated that the in-flight service is of the best standard globally.

With the new aircraft, he affirmed that the airline has further adapted to the demands on nthe Lagos-Paris route, adding that from February 3, 2005, four more flights will be added to the existing three frequencies on the Port Harcourt route to meet the increasing passenger demand.

With this development, he said the airline will have 490 seats weekly from Nigeria, stating an office will be opened in Abuja to enable people buy tickets easily.

Saint-Albin said fares wiil go down, adding that the airline has already commenced low fares to the Americas since December 2004.

He also disclosed that the airline will embark on social projects in Nigeria just as Nigerian cultural interest will be taken care of on board the B777 aircraft with the introduction of Nigerian movies on board.

Isan

January 21st, 2005, 05:19 AM

Referred by technical review

If an engine fails on the Boeing 777, how does it affect the performance of the airplane ?

Although engine failure is extremely rare, it is not a major problem should one of them ever failed. The Boeing 777 is designed to fly for at least 3 hours on one engine for a distance up to 1320 nautical miles or 2110 kilometers. That is further than from New York to Havana in Cuba.

Pilots have been checked every 6 months in even more adverse emergency conditions than just a simple engine failure. Basically, an engine failure merely require a diversion to a suitable airport and there are many such airports within the 3 hours range. However, most Airlines at the moment use 2 hours for planning purposes, to fly on one engine should the need arise for an unforeseen diversion. So if an engine fails within 850 nautical miles (2 hours flight) of your intended destination, you may even arrive safely at your airport without any sweat !

SkylineTurbo

January 21st, 2005, 05:37 AM

Air New Zealand is aquiring new 777-200s by September this year for planned direct routes from AKL-India/China.

Isan

January 28th, 2005, 07:11 PM

The maximum ranges of the various 777 models in the following sequence

# 9,500km, 777-200
# 10,600km, 777-300
# 14,300km, 777-200ER
# 14,594km, 777-300ER
# 17,446km, 777-200LR

777-200LR

Boeing claims the C market 777-200LR (772C) will be the longest ranging airliner, capable of flying 9420 nautical miles (17,446 km) for 18 hours. It will achieve this with huge 110,000 lbf (489 kN) thrust GE90-110B1 turbofans, a significantly increased MTOW and optional auxiliary fuel tanks in the rear cargo hold. Other new features include raked wingtips, a new main landing gear and additional structural strengthening. The first flight will be 1Q2005 with EIS in 2006 After the introduction of the 777-200LR, the only mass-produced aircraft with greater unrefuelled range will be the KC10-10 extender

The direct Airbus equivalent is the A340-500

http://www.aircraft-info.net/aircraft/jet_aircraft/boeing/777-200/3view-777-200.gif

STR

January 28th, 2005, 08:22 PM

After the introduction of the 777-200LR, the only mass-produced aircraft with greater unrefuelled range will be the KC-10A Extender

That certainly puts things into perspective.

Nephasto

January 28th, 2005, 09:30 PM

Air New Zealand is aquiring new 777-200s by September this year for planned direct routes from AKL-India/China.

But those won't be LR i guess.

Isan

February 16th, 2005, 12:40 PM

Boeing unveils new long-range passenger jet
By Simon Freeman, Times Online

The transatlantic dogfight over the future of commercial air travel escalated today as, one month after Europe's Airbus unveiled the world's largest passenger aircraft, its American rival Boeing launched a jet with the capacity to connect virtually any two cities in the world.

The Boeing 777-200 LR has a range of up to 10,843 miles and its manufacturers boast it will be able to fly from London to Syndney without needing to stop to re-fuel.

The first model was due to roll off the production line in Washington today, and first deliveries are expected early next year.

The new aircraft will form a central plank of the American company's strategy to win back market share from Airbus. Airbus became the world's number one aviation company when it overtook Boeing on deliveries for the first time last January.

Boeing has so far received two orders from Pakistan International Airlines for the new jet, which can carry 301 passengers, and a further three from EVA of Taiwan. Other airlines appear to be waiting to see how the plane performs.

The company is optimistic that it will be able to persuade airlines providing lucrative long-haul business trips, particularly those linking major US cities to the Far East, such as New York and Singapore, to upgrade their fleets in coming years.

Boeing's tactic of aiming its resources towards long-haul passengers at the upper end of the air travel market contrasts starkly with Airbus, which last month unveiled its A380 super-jumbo, a double-decker plane with 850 seats.

So far, 14 airlines have bought into the Airbus vision of the future with 149 models on order. The wings of the A380 are British-built, and many of the airlines are also specifying Rolls-Royce engines.

There is intense commercial rivalry between the two firms. Boeing recently challenged EU leaders to justify the extent to which they subsidise their own manufacturer with loans. Meanwhile, Europe has criticised the 'back-door' subsidies made by Washington through research grants from defence projects.

A spokesman for Boeing explained that whilst its new jet would be able to make the trip from London to Sydney without a break, the return journey would prove more challenging: because it is against the wind.

Isan

February 16th, 2005, 12:44 PM

http://www.xplanefreeware.net/~morten/jpgs/772LR.jpg

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/7/777LR2a.JPG.47043.jpg

Isan

February 16th, 2005, 12:50 PM

Randy's Journal
Going the Distance
14 February 2005

Today I'm delivering a Valentine to the newest member of the 777 family, the 777-200LR (Longer Range).

You'll be seeing a lot of her in the days ahead as we introduce the world to the longest-range commercial airplane ever built. She will go from here to just about anywhere.

The airplane waiting to be unveiled in our factory in Everett, WA is capable of connecting virtually any two cities in the world. And when we roll her out tomorrow afternoon it's going to be the start of a beautiful relationship.

Really, I should say many beautiful relationships -- non-stops between city pairs - that up until now were just the stuff of imagination. No more long waits in an airport you didn't want to visit in the first place.

The thing that's so special about the 777-200LR is that it gives airlines the additional flexibility to serve non-stop routes (in 777 comfort) that passengers are asking for.
Boeing 777-200LR photo, Going the Distance: The 777-200LR

Try these city pairs on for size:

* Singapore - New York
* Perth - London
* Los Angeles - Bombay
* New York - Auckland
* Chicago - Sydney
* Taipei - Miami
* New York - Karachi

That last city pair is a reflection of our first 777-200LR customer, Pakistan International Airlines. It's amazing the possibilities this new airplane opens up.

Just briefly, the 777-200LR can do it because of larger and more powerful engines, and up to three optional fuel tanks in the aft cargo compartment. With a full complement of 301 passengers, this airplane will have a range of 9,420 nautical miles (17,446 kilometers), the longest range of any commercial airliner. That's truly "Going the Distance."
Boeing 777-200LR photo The 777 longer-range airplanes offer overhead crew and attendant rest areas in the fuselage crown above the passenger cabin.

Needless to say, the 777-200-LR can fly farther and faster than the A340-500, and can carry more passengers and cargo, all the while consuming 20% less fuel per passenger. This is good for the airlines and good for the environment.

Find out more about the 777 family by clicking here.

And you can get a look at the dimensions of our 777 longer range airplanes here.

We think our customers are going to want airplanes with more range and with the ability to connect new city pairs with non-stop flights. The 777-200LR does that and allows airlines to carry more cargo on those long-haul routes, too.

Well, now it's time to get ready for the festivities. After the roll-out I want to talk about some world-record distance flights we have planned for this new airplane. It's going to be an exciting year around here, that's for sure.

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Isan

February 16th, 2005, 01:03 PM

PIA’s second Boeing 777 aircraft arrives

February 16, 2005

KARACHI: The Pakistan International Airlines’ (PIA) second new Boeing-777 landed at the Quaid-e-Azam International Airport, early Sunday morning.

The plane took off from Seattle in the United States and landed at Islamabad International Airport after a 14-hour non-stop flight at 11.50pm on Saturday. After a brief stopover it flew to Karachi.

PIA officials welcomed the crew and other members who arrived on Boeing 777-ER, the most technologically advanced airplane in the world. The plane has a seating capacity of 327 with accommodation of 33 passengers in the first class. In 2002, PIA ordered eight Boeing 777 airplanes. These included three extended range Boeing 777-200-ER, two Boeing 777-200-LR and three Boeing 777-300-ER.

The next delivery is expected in March 2004. All the planes will be received by year 2008. PIA is confident that the induction of these airplanes will boost Pakistan’s economy. The airplane induction programme is financed by the United States Exim Bank. This is the largest deal in the history of PIA. A PIA spokesman said that the planes have been acquired on the basis of an elaborate marketing plan. He said these aircraft would help provide direct destination flights to passengers. The expansion of PIA’s future network was also considered before acquiring these aircraft. While selecting these aircraft, operational cost, fuel efficiency, comfort of passengers and low maintenance costs were considered.

More than 460 B777s are currently in service with 36 airlines around the world. So far more than 630 777s have been ordered. The national flag carrier plans to use 777-200ER aircraft for US destinations and possibly for India. —APP

Isan

February 16th, 2005, 01:21 PM

Boeing Unveils 777-200LR Worldliner
15 February 2005

Boeing today unveiled the first 777-200LR Worldliner at a celebration attended by more than 5,000 employees, airline representatives, suppliers, and government and community leaders.

"This amazing airplane will connect virtually any two cities in the world with nonstop service,” said Alan Mulally, president and chief executive officer, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "The 777-200LR Worldliner is the latest innovation in our highly successful 777 airplane family. The 777 family consists of five passenger models and a freighter version in development that safely and efficiently serve the needs of our customers, while providing passengers and cargo operators with more of what they want -- affordable, comfortable, nonstop flights to the destinations of their choice.”

Extending the range of the market-leading 777 family by more than 1,500 nautical miles (2,775 kilometers), the 777-200LR (Longer Range) allows airlines to service nonstop routes such as New York-Singapore and Los Angeles-Dubai at full passenger capacity and carry revenue cargo. The 777-200LR can carry 301 passengers up to 9,420 nautical miles (17,446 kilometers).

The 777-200LR Worldliner is the first Boeing airplane entirely painted in the company's striking blue livery introduced last year. The airplane's unveiling at today's ceremony also revealed its new name: Worldliner, which highlights its revolutionary capabilities to connect cities around the world.

"The 777-200LR Worldliner will enable our customers to open new nonstop routes and explore new markets that once could only be accomplished with one or two stops,” said Lars Andersen, vice president -- program manager, 777 program, Boeing Commercial Airplanes.

With the first flight scheduled for early March, flight-test employees are putting final touches on the systems they will use to monitor and evaluate the airplane. The seven-month flight-test program will include approximately 300 hours of ground and 500 hours of flight testing.

The 777-200LR and the 777-300ER (Extended Range) were launched in February 2000 by Boeing and GE Aircraft Engines in response to airlines that wanted new airplanes with additional flexibility to serve the nonstop routes passengers demand.

The first 777-200LR Worldliner is to be delivered to Pakistan International Airlines in January 2006. EVA Airways is also a launch customer.

The 777-200LR will also serve as the platform for the Boeing 777 Freighter.

See other recent news regarding: Boeing

FM 2258

February 16th, 2005, 01:36 PM

Maybe I lost this somewhere but does this new 777-200LR fly farther than the A340-600? The A340-600 looks cool because of it's length but I remember seeing Airbus touting it's longer range with the A340-600.

Isan

February 16th, 2005, 02:14 PM

Can review some relative data at # 6 posting :)
Also at the thread of Airbus 340xxx series

FM 2258

February 16th, 2005, 02:30 PM

Can review some relative data at # 6 posting :)
Also at the thread of Airbus 340xxx series

Thanks.

TallBox

February 16th, 2005, 03:20 PM

i think i've found a new favourite aeroplace :)

HasanB

February 16th, 2005, 06:15 PM

Well, PIAs new 777-200LRs are going to be the first to come out, meaning that Pakistan International will be the launch customer for this particular type of aircraft. Should be cool :) .

Isan

February 17th, 2005, 07:14 AM

Boeing rolls out long-haul jumbo airliner

LONDON: A month after Europe unveiled the world's biggest airliner, America on Tuesday came up with one that could fly the farthest.

The roll-out in Seattle of the Boeing 777-200LR (for “long range”) was portrayed as the joining of a mighty aerospace battle, pitting size against staying power, with the ultimate spoils being billions in orders from the world's airlines.

While many industry insiders dismiss such a notion, describing the new Boeing as merely a “niche plane” aimed at a limited market, the spectacle of two new and so different airliners appearing hard on each other's heels has inevitably led to questions over the way passengers in the future would most like to travel.

On one hand, there is the Airbus behemoth, the A380 with its twin decks, 79.5m wingspan and, theoretically, the ability to seat 740 economy passengers, even though, in reality, it will “only” accommodate between 500-550 in three classes when it enters service next year.

SUPER JUMBO JET: The first Boeing 777-200LR being presented to employees and the Press on Tuesday at the Boeing Co assembly facility in Everett, Washington.-APpic
It might not be the fastest aircraft in the world or have the longest range (but still a respectable 8,000 nautical miles or 14,816km) but it will still get you from northern Europe to Australia with only a stop or two.

The first 777-200LR is to be delivered to Pakistan International Airlines next January.

And, if Sir Richard Branson's dreams are realised, you will be able to wile away the time in the bar, gym or casino. – The Daily Telegraph http://thestar.com.my/archives/2005/2/17/world/p30boeing.jpg

STR

February 17th, 2005, 08:48 AM

Gotta love the paint scheme.

cladiv

February 17th, 2005, 12:13 PM

this plane is great!

Isan

February 17th, 2005, 05:01 PM

777-240LR

http://tinypic.com/1r8zmh

http://tinypic.com/1r9000

Isan

February 17th, 2005, 05:22 PM

777-200LR

Passengers : 301 (Typical 3-class configuration )

Engines : GE90-110B1
maximum thrust : 50,045 kg

Maximum Fuel Capacity : 195,285L (including 2 optional tanks)

Maximum Takeoff Weight : 340,194 kg

Maximum Range : 16,316 km

Typical Cruise Speed : Mach 0.84

777-300ER

Passengers : 365 (Typical 3-class configuration )

Engines : GE90-115B
maximum thrust : 52,400 kg

Maximum Fuel Capacity : 181,280 L

Maximum Takeoff Weight : 340,194 kg

Maximum Range : 13,288 km

Typical Cruise Speed : Mach 0.84

http://bravelau.150m.com/civil_aviation/b777/images/3-views/772lr-eview.bmp

hkskyline

February 18th, 2005, 07:26 PM

Non-stop from London aboard the new Boeing
By Foreign Editor MILES KEMP
17 February 2005
The Advertiser

BOEING has launched the first passenger jet capable of linking Sydney and Adelaide to London as a non-stop commercial route.

The Boeing 777-200LR has created aviation history, being the first commercial jet capable of flying non-stop halfway around the globe - therefore linking any two cities on Earth without refuelling.

The aircraft is a long-range version of the company's existing 777 and is capable of carrying 301 passengers. With three additional fuel tanks, it can fly more than 15,000km.

Atmospheric wind conditions mean the plane could fly non-stop from London to Australia - but it would need to refuel if flying from Australia to London. Launched in Seattle yesterday, the two-engine aircraft will begin flying next month.

In order for it to fly into Adelaide or Sydney, several conditions would need to be met.

Boeing Australia spokesman Ken Moreton said for non-stop flights from London or the United States, Adelaide would need to have the necessary volume of customers and the Federal Government would have to amend air traffic rights.

Qantas and British Airways currently have traffic rights from London to Sydney and could use the 777-200LR from 2006.

Adelaide Airport spokesman John McArdle said the facility could accommodate the aircraft and would welcome it in the future.

Isan

February 19th, 2005, 06:22 AM

PIA’s second Boeing 777 aircraft arrives
Saturday, February 19, 2005

KARACHI: The Pakistan International Airlines’ (PIA) second new Boeing-777 landed at the Quaid-e-Azam International Airport, early Sunday morning.

The plane took off from Seattle in the United States and landed at Islamabad International Airport after a 14-hour non-stop flight at 11.50pm on Saturday. After a brief stopover it flew to Karachi.

PIA officials welcomed the crew and other members who arrived on Boeing 777-ER, the most technologically advanced airplane in the world. The plane has a seating capacity of 327 with accommodation of 33 passengers in the first class. In 2002, PIA ordered eight Boeing 777 airplanes. These included three extended range Boeing 777-200-ER, two Boeing 777-200-LR and three Boeing 777-300-ER.

The next delivery is expected in March 2004. All the planes will be received by year 2008. PIA is confident that the induction of these airplanes will boost Pakistan’s economy. The airplane induction programme is financed by the United States Exim Bank. This is the largest deal in the history of PIA. A PIA spokesman said that the planes have been acquired on the basis of an elaborate marketing plan. He said these aircraft would help provide direct destination flights to passengers. The expansion of PIA’s future network was also considered before acquiring these aircraft. While selecting these aircraft, operational cost, fuel efficiency, comfort of passengers and low maintenance costs were considered.

More than 460 B777s are currently in service with 36 airlines around the world. So far more than 630 777s have been ordered. The national flag carrier plans to use 777-200ER aircraft for US destinations and possibly for India. —APP

triboro

February 25th, 2005, 07:27 AM

Made in Seattle thank you! Now sip your starbucks and order a book from Amazon.com. Yeah that on your Microsoft windows. Seattle is the greatest!

Your welcome......

Isan

March 5th, 2005, 06:10 AM

Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner Completes Taxi Test; Nears First Flight
03.04.05, 7:54 PM ET

EVERETT, Wash., March 4 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) pilots taxied the new 777-200LR Worldliner for the first time today, one of the final steps before the world's longest range commercial airplane makes its first flight.

Boeing's newest 777, capable of connecting virtually any two cities in the world, is scheduled to make its inaugural flight on Tuesday, March 8, from Paine Field in Everett, Wash., depending on weather and other variables.

Capt. Suzanna Darcy-Hennemann, 777-200LR project pilot, and Capt. Frank Santoni, chief 777 program pilot, completed the taxi test, one of many being conducted as the airplane prepares for first flight. The test provides data about the airplane's braking performance and handling characteristics on the ground. It also ensures all the systems perform as designed while the airplane is in motion, providing the flight crew's final validation before first flight.

The pilots during today's test conducted taxi runs at speeds of up to 70 knots, or approximately 80 miles per hour (130 kilometers per hour). The airplane's gross weight for this test was 425,000 pounds (192,777 kilograms).

Nephasto

March 6th, 2005, 01:51 AM

Boeing's newest 777, capable of connecting virtually any two cities in the world

I would like to see it doing a Lisbon-Sydney. :D

Chibcha2k

March 6th, 2005, 02:56 AM

It looks nice...but the A345 is better for me

Isan

March 9th, 2005, 05:35 AM

Boeing 777-200LR begins Test Flights
8 March 2005

The first Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner today completed its first flight and began a test program that will lead to its first delivery in January 2006.

Capts. Suzanna Darcy-Hennemann and Frank Santoni flew the airplane, which carries the distinctive new blue Boeing livery. Darcy-Hennemann is the 777-200LR project pilot and Santoni is the chief 777 program pilot for Boeing Commercial Airplanes.

"The 777-200LR's ability to connect the world is amazing," Darcy-Hennemann said. "Flying the first flight is an honor and a rare opportunity."

The 777-200LR, capable of connecting virtually any two cities in the world nonstop, is the fifth 777 model. It can carry 301 passengers up to 9,420 nautical miles (17,445 kilometers).

During today's flight, Darcy-Hennemann and Santoni took the airplane to an altitude of 15,000 feet (4,572 meters) and an air speed of 270 knots, or about 310 miles (500 kilometers) per hour, customary on a first flight. Typically, the 777's cruise altitude is 35,000 feet (10,668 meters), and its cruise speed is Mach 0.84, about 484 miles (779 kilometers) per hour.

Darcy-Hennemann and Santoni tested some of the airplane's systems and structures, as on-board equipment recorded and transmitted real-time data to a flight-test team at Boeing Field.

The flight-test program will involve the airplane flown today and a second one that's being built. Those will prove the airplane's safety, reliability and service-ready condition during 500 flight hours and 300 ground test hours.

Certification by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and Europe's Joint Aviation Authority is expected during the fourth quarter. The first 777-200LR Worldliner is to be delivered to Pakistan International Airlines. EVA Airways is also a launch customer.

Isan

March 9th, 2005, 05:39 AM

I would like to see it doing a Lisbon-Sydney. :D

The world becoming to smaller and smaller La~~~~ :laugh:
How amazing can flying nearly half of the earth :D

:drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk:

UnitedPakistan

March 11th, 2005, 06:17 PM

Nephasto

March 11th, 2005, 06:26 PM

The world becoming to smaller and smaller La~~~~ :laugh:
How amazing can flying nearly half of the earth :D

:drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk:

Man, i was being ironic.
It cannot possibly fly Lisbon-Sydney non stop. ;)

But anyway, let's make a toast!!
:drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk:
:)

Isan

March 12th, 2005, 06:26 PM

Hope one day could be able for flying longer and longer without stopover around the world ;) :D

FM 2258

March 12th, 2005, 06:32 PM

This is cool but I love having stopovers and changing multiple planes. You get to stretch your legs, walk around an area bigger than the cabin and you get to enjoy more take-offs and landings.

Nephasto

March 12th, 2005, 07:12 PM

FM 2258

March 12th, 2005, 08:34 PM

^That's the other side of the story. ;)

Take for example a 18 hours flight(ultra long haul, like Singapore-NYC). I love the idea of a plane being able to fly all that without a stop, but if i was a passenger, i would probably think twice about doing it nonstop or with a stop in between. In that I understand FM 2258 point of view. ;)

Yeah, it's like I know I'd probably die sitting for 18 hours in an Economy Class seat. Now if I was in Emirates First class then I'd probably be happy about the 18 hour flight.

Isan

March 12th, 2005, 08:52 PM

How about to ride this rocket around the world
But seems to be old feshioned from now :D

http://www.boeing.com/history/boeing/images/sst.jpg

and this one would BETTER

http://www.aviationnow.com/content/ncof/images/aw1448.gif

HK4EVER

March 12th, 2005, 10:35 PM

Nephasto

March 13th, 2005, 02:11 AM

Yeah, it's like I know I'd probably die sitting for 18 hours in an Economy Class seat. Now if I was in Emirates First class then I'd probably be happy about the 18 hour flight.

Hehe! Emirates first on their 340-500's is just absolutly outstanding!! Nothing compares to it! :D

Anyway, I must tell you that there's no regular economy on that NYC-Singapore 18h flight (longest comercial flight in the world).
Singapore's 340-500's only have business(raffles) and premium economy.
Premium economy seats have a 37' pitch and are 20' wide, so it's much better than regular economy. :)

Isan

March 13th, 2005, 05:12 AM

^ Well the top one's the ol' Boeing 2707, scrapped in the late 60s or early 70s when environmentalists went nuts. Unlike the Concorde, this would've seated up to 300 people making it economically viable. Lockheed also entered the contest with the L-2000 but it lost. That must be a pic of the one that was partially built and saved by a museum.

The bottom one's the Sonic Cruiser, which was really cool looking but still subsonic.... and I don't think I would've cared if my 18-hour flight was shaved down to 16.5 hours. Awful idea.

New technology can soften the sonic booms that aircraft like Concorde used to make, but even today I think a new SST would burn massive amounts of fuel, which makes it worthless. Boeing/Airbus'll have to switch over to hydrogen fuel before we see SSTs again. :cheers:

On New year's Eve 1966, after more than 14 years of study, design work and competition, the federal government selected Boeing to build the prototype for the country's first supersonic transport (SST).

Twenty-six airlines ordered 122 of the transports. The final design featured a double-jointed, needle-shaped nose that would drop during takeoff and landing for improved pilot visibility.

Government funding was withdrawn in 1971 before the prototype was finished. However, the Boeing SST fostered advances in supersonic transportation, leading to the High Speed Civil Transport project.

Specifications
Classification: Proposed supersonic transport
Length: 318 feet
Cruising speed: Mach 2.7
Altitude: More than 60,000 feet
Power: Four 60,000-pound-thrust engines

Isan

March 24th, 2005, 12:57 PM

Air New Zealand orders Boeing Electronic Flight Bag for New Boeing 777s, 787s
22 March 2005

Air New Zealand is to install the Boeing Electronic Flight Bag (EFB) on its Boeing 777 and 787s. The order makes Air New Zealand the first airline to have fully certified, Class 3 EFBs on order for two different aircraft.

ANZ will have an EFB system installed, certified and delivered on the eight 777-200ERs it has on order, and also will receive EFBs on the two 787 airplanes it has ordered. Boeing is making the EFB standard equipment on the 787. The airline will receive its first EFB-equipped 777 in September 2005.

“We are delighted to have the introduction of the EFB into Air New Zealand on our 777 aircraft,” said ANZ General Manager of Operations, Captain David Morgan.

“As a company we are always keen to find cost effective technological solutions, and the EFB will support us to achieve our goal of a paperless flight deck.”

The EFB contains all documentation and forms that pilots carry, aeronautical maps and charts, manuals or fault reporting and operations, minimum equipment lists and logbooks, in digital format, and puts them at the crew’s fingertips.

EFB also includes an on-board performance tool that allows the pilot to instantly calculate the ideal speed and engine setting for an aircraft, in any weather, on any runway, with any payload. Such calculations could increase the payload of a 777 taking off from a wet runway by as much as 9,000 kg (20,000 lbs.).

In addition, the EFB includes an Airport Moving Map application, which combines high-fidelity, geo-referenced airport taxi charts and precise navigational signals to show flight crews exactly where they are on the surface of an airport. It also gives flight crews a viewer for cabin surveillance systems, helping meet new and anticipated regulatory requirements.

ANZ will use a hard-mounted “Class 3” version of the EFB on its 777s comprising Jeppesen software, and electronics and display hardware from Astronautics Corp. of America.

Isan

March 25th, 2005, 05:12 AM

Air France to order seven Boeing cargo planes for 1.5 bln dollars: report

Thu Mar 24, 4:38 PM ET

PARIS (AFP) - Air France is about to place a 1.5-billion-dollar (1.16 billion euros) order for seven Boeing 777 freight planes to replace part of its fleet.

The planes will go into service in 2008 to replace part of the Boeing 747 cargo fleet, the French economic daily La Tribune said, without providing sources for its report.

An Air France spokesman contacted by AFP would not confirm the report, but noted that "the director of Air France cargo, Marc Boudier, showed his interest for this plane in a recent meeting with the press."

Air France last month exercised an option to buy four Boeing long-haul 777-300 passenger planes, with a combined catalogue price of 872-982 million dollars (673-758 million euros).

Air France-KLM is the world's biggest airline after a merger last year of the French and Dutch flag carriers.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20050324/capt.sge.ayt09.240305213813.photo00.photo.default-380x270.jpg

Isan

March 30th, 2005, 03:09 AM

Air France to buy cargo 777s
Freighter version likely to replace eight older 747s
By ALLISON LINN
Associated Press

Air France said Friday it plans to replace part of its aging fleet of cargo planes with Boeing Co.'s new 777 freighter, but the airline would not say whether it will become the launch customer for the proposed new airplane.

Boeing spokesman Marc Birtel confirmed that Air France is among the airlines interested in the new plane, but he also would not speculate on when the French airline might bring the airplane into its fleet.

Air France spokesman Jean-Claude Couturier said the 777 freighter is the favored option to replace its eight Boeing 747-200s. But Air France would not comment on a report in financial daily La Tribune that the carrier is about to become Boeing's launch customer by ordering seven of the 777 freighters.

Chicago-based Boeing said in November that it would begin offering a 777 freighter to customers, aiming to put the airplane into service by the end of 2008. But the company, which makes commercial airplanes in the Seattle area, has yet to snag a launch customer that would make the new freighter program a reality.

Airbus weighs in
The 777 freighter would be based on the passenger version of the long-range 777-200LR, which is scheduled to enter service in early 2006. The freighter would be able to carry 222,000 pounds of cargo up to 6,400 miles.

Rival Airbus has said its new superjumbo A380 freighter will be able to carry 341,000 pounds of cargo the same distance. It's also scheduled to enter service in 2008.

Boeing's biggest freighter offering is the 747-400ER, which could carry 248,000 pounds of cargo 5,700 miles.

Analyst Richard Aboulafia with the Teal Group said a key advantage of the 777 freighter for commercial airlines such as Air France is that it has just two engines, compared with four engines for the A380 and the 747 freighters. That could be a big cost savings for an airline that doesn't need as much space as the bigger planes offer.

But he said the 777 freighter could steal business away from airlines who might otherwise buy Boeing's 747 freighter, at the same time as the A380 freighter is also squeezing 747 business with airlines interested in more cargo space.

"You're getting into the 747's niche, and that's probably the biggest single complication behind introducing the 777 freighter," Aboulafia said.

Big on cargo
The A380 freighter has already won orders from UPS and FedEx Corp., and some analysts say the big airplane has huge potential for ferrying goods around the world. Meanwhile, Boeing's 747 program has become increasingly reliant on cargo orders, having seen very little interest in the passenger version of the jumbo jet in recent years.

Birtel said it believes the 777 freighter will complement, rather than compete against, its 747 offering.

Air France, now part of Air France-KLM, the world's largest airline, also is looking to replace four of its larger 747 freighters, which could provide another opening for Airbus.

But although Air France has ordered 10 A380 passenger jets, Couturier suggested that a decision on whether to buy "superjumbo" freighters was some way off.

"Air France has not yet given any consideration to the A380," he said.

An Airbus spokeswoman did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

Isan

April 14th, 2005, 05:21 AM

Boeing 777-300ER could damage runways - report
Wednesday, 13 April 2005

Boeing's 777-300ER plane could damage the runways at Paris's Orly Airport by exerting too much pressure, especially at take-off, Paris airports operator Aeroports de Paris (ADP) said.

Air France KLM has ordered seven such planes to replace its Boeing 747s to fly from Orly to France's overseas territories in the summer of 2007, La Tribune newspaper reported.

ADP said the B777-300ER, a new version of the Boeing 777, was lighter than the Boeing 747 or the upcoming Airbus A380 superjumbo jet, but its mass was centered on 12 wheels compared with 22 for the Airbus A380.

Such concentrated pressure could ruin the runways, ADP said.

ADP said it had begun discussions with Air France to find a solution.

A Boeing spokesman said that 14 B777-300ER planes are being flown by four major airlines, and that none of them have damaged runways.

"To date the B777-300ER has not experienced significant operational difficulties at any of the large airports where it is expected to operate on a normal basis," Boeing spokesman Mark Birtel said.

The cost of strengthening the runways could be high and the work lengthy, La Tribune said. For Air France, switching overseas territories flights to Paris's Charles de Gaulle Airport could cannibalize some future expected capacity, La Tribune said.

Isan

May 14th, 2005, 10:45 AM

Boeing 777-300ER Celebrates One Year Serving World’s Airlines and Passengers

EVERETT, Wash., May 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Boeing 777-300ER (Extended Range) passenger airplane today marked one year in revenue service, during which it reinforced the 777’s unsurpassed record of reliability and efficiency.

EVERETT, Wash., May 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Boeing 777-300ER (Extended Range) passenger airplane today marked one year in revenue service, during which it reinforced the 777’s unsurpassed record of reliability and efficiency.

The technologically advanced 777-300ER flew more than 32,000 hours during its first year, amassing a 99.2 percent average schedule reliability rate that surpasses previous 777 model introductions and is in line with the 99.3 percent overall rate for the 777 family.

Air France is currently the largest 777-300ER operator and was the first to put the airplane into service one year ago.

"The 777-300ER has met our ambitious requirements in delivering expected performance, reliability and efficiency," said Pierre Vellay, Air France senior vice president, new aircraft and corporate fleet planning. "It has proven itself as a passenger-pleasing moneymaker."

The largest long-range twin-engine jetliner, the 777-300ER carries 365 passengers up to 7,880 nautical miles (14,594 kilometers). To date, 17 have been delivered to Air France, ANA, Japan Airlines, and Emirates and Boeing has received 108 orders for the 777-300ER from eleven customers, not including recently announced commitments from Air Canada and Air India.

"Dispatch reliability and fuel efficiency are critical to an airline’s success in long-range markets," said Lars Andersen, vice president - program manager, 777 Program, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "In service, the 777-300ER has demonstrated best-in-class reliability and unmatched efficiency."

The 777-300ER carries the world’s most powerful commercial jet engine, GE’s GE90-115B. In service, the GE90-115B engines have experienced no unscheduled engine removals and no in-flight shutdowns -- a remarkable achievement for an entry into service of a new jet engine.

"This is arguably GE’s best ever entry into service of a new commercial jet engine," said Chaker Chahrour, general manager of GE’s GE90 Engine Program. "The engine reliability has been outstanding, and our fuel burn is better than predicted, which contributes to the excellent economics of the aircraft. Our customers are truly delighted with the engine performance."

The Boeing 777 family continues evolving with the recent addition of the world’s longest range airliner, the 777-200LR Worldliner, and the 777 Freighter. More than 35 airlines have placed orders for 681 777s, making it the most preferred airplane in its class.

Isan

June 13th, 2005, 05:18 PM

Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner starts 20-city ‘Going the Distance' world tour
10 June 2005

Boeing's 777-200LR Worldliner completed its first intercontinental flight today, arriving at the Le Bourget, France, airport for the 46th Paris Air Show.

This week in Montreal, the 777-200LR kicked off its "Going the Distance" tour, which will have it visit more than 20 cities in the Middle East, Asia, Europe, Australia, and North America through August.

"Recent sales successes demonstrate that demand for the 777-200LR is climbing," said Boeing Commercial Airplanes Vice President and Program Manager, 777 Program, Lars Andersen. "During our tour, airlines around the world will have the opportunity to experience the comfort, capability, and efficiency of this tremendous airplane."

Later this year, the Worldliner will attempt to set a new world record for distance traveled nonstop by a commercial airplane. The current record -- 10,823 nautical miles (20,044 kilometers) -- was set in 1997 by the 777-200ER (Extended Range).

The 777-200LR, capable of connecting almost any two cities in the world nonstop, is the fifth 777 model. In service it can carry 301 passengers and baggage up to 9,420 nautical miles (17,445 kilometers).

Each section of the 777-200LR Worldliner showcases the latest 777 interior offerings and cabin layouts that allows airlines to differentiate their product offering to passengers.

Launch customer Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) is to receive the first 777-200LR Worldliner in January. To date, four airlines have ordered or announced commitments for the 777-200LR -- PIA, EVA Airways, Air Canada and Air India.

Isan

June 24th, 2005, 05:32 AM

Friday, June 24, 2005

Boeing 777 launched: PIA should improve service: PM
Staff Report

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz on Thursday urged Pakistan International Airlines to improve its services according to international standards to compete in the international business environment.

Aziz said this at the launch ceremony of Boeing 777-200LR aircraft at Chaklala Air Base. The prime minister noted that PIA’s performance had improved over the years but it was time to transform the airliner from an ethnic carrier to an international carrier.

He said that overseas Pakistanis provided the core of PIA traffic but the airlines should also attract more business travellers and tourists to Pakistan. Aziz praised PIA’s medium and long-term plans to give the airlines a new look. He expressed confidence that the new reservation and marketing system and better management would enable the national carrier to grow. The prime minister hoped that with the purchase of Boeing long distance aircraft, PIA would take passengers from Pakistan to any destination in the world.

He said that PIA already had three Boeing 777 aircraft and it would get two more in the next few months while three more aircraft would be delivered to it in 2008, adding that the airlines was close to making a decision to replace its obsolete fleet of Fokker aircraft with modern planes. PIA Chairman Tariq Kirmani said the induction of Boeing 777-200LR aircraft was a momentous decision.

FM 2258

June 24th, 2005, 09:01 AM

Hehe! Emirates first on their 340-500's is just absolutly outstanding!! Nothing compares to it! :D

Anyway, I must tell you that there's no regular economy on that NYC-Singapore 18h flight (longest comercial flight in the world).
Singapore's 340-500's only have business(raffles) and premium economy.
Premium economy seats have a 37' pitch and are 20' wide, so it's much better than regular economy. :)

Hmmmm, maybe I could stand that. It's amazing how we have the luxury of talking about long flights when these journeys used to take many months to several years.

Isan

June 28th, 2005, 04:03 PM

Boeing Worldliner makes Qatar stop on global run
Published: Monday, 27 June, 2005, 01:38 PM Doha Time
Business Reporter

DOHA: The world’s longest range jetliner – the Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner – touched down at Doha International Airport yesterday morning as part of a global test run prior to its commercial launch in early 2006.
Qatar Airways is looking to add the Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner to its fleet with the national carrier announcing at the recent Paris Air Show its intention to purchase up to 20 Boeing aircraft in the next few years.
The $210mn Worldliner was unveiled in February. Pakistan International Airlines will be the launch customer for the Worldliner in January 2006.
Four airlines have so far ordered or announced commitments for the Worldliner the Seattle-based plane-maker said. They are PIA, EVA Airways, Air Canada and Air-India.
Addressing a press conference on board the aircraft, which is one of the two Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner manufactured by Boeing so far, top company executives said the latest product offer from the Boeing 777 family is capable of connecting virtually any two cities in the world non-stop, such as Dubai-Los Angeles or Sydney-New York. The latter route covers a distance of 16,200km, which is more than a third way round the planet.
Boeing’s regional director (product marketing, commercial airplanes) Bradley D Till said the extended-range capability will allow buyers of Worldliner to service long-haul routes non-stop at full 301-passenger capacity and revenue cargo.
“Orders and commitments for the 777-200LR have more than tripled since the airplane was unveiled in February 2005,” he said.
About 35% of the 777-200LR’s designed has been changed from the earlier 777 models. Each wing has been extended 6.5ft by adding raked wing tips. This improves overall aerodynamics and fuel efficiency.
The raked wing tips help reduce take-off field length, increase climb performance and reduce fuel burn. The Worldliner is powered by the GE90-110B1L jet engines, which can produce up to 115,300 pounds of thrust.
The other Worldliner features are “strengthened body, wing, empennage and nosegear, new main landing gear, wheels, tyres and brakes, modified struts and nacelles to accommodate the significantly higher thrust engines.
Till said the 777-200LR Worldliner featured industry-leading economics. Seat-mile costs are 14 to 16% lower than for competing aircraft. Fuel burn is also about 22% lower per seat. Advanced 777 technology reduces maintenance costs and makes maintenance more efficient.
The Worldliner offers overhead crew and attendant rest areas in the fuselage crown above the passenger cabin, freeing space for either four to seven revenue passenger seats or up to six LD-3 cargo containers.
A recent worldwide survey conducted by numerous airlines among 6,000 passengers, three out of four passengers prefer the 777 cabin. Some 517 Boeing 777s are in service now, Till said.
Lee Monson, Boeing Commercial Airplane vice-president (sales, Middle East and Africa) said the 777-200LR would enable airlines to launch new non-stop routes and explore markets that once could only be accomplished with one or more stopovers.
“Non-stop travel is set to grow over the next couple of decades and Boeing’s product strategy, which includes the Worldliner, will help airlines leverage this trend,” he said.
The Worldliner’s test run named ‘Going the Distance’ will involve some 20 cities in the Middle East, Asia, Europe, Australia and North America over an eight-week period. Before coming to Doha, the Worldliner touched down at Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Muscat.
The Worldliner will soon visit China, Hong Kong and India among other places.
Meanwhile, Boeing yesterday hosted prominent citizens, diplomats and airline executives on board the Worldliner during its visit to Doha International Airport.

Isan

June 29th, 2005, 05:27 PM

Etihad Interested In Cargo 777
June 23, 2005

Abu-Dhabi based Etihad Airways is in talks with Boeing to purchase the freight version of the long-range 777 airliner, an official said in remarks published on Thursday.

"We are definitely interested in the cargo version of the Boeing 777-200LR. We have initiated talks and right now we are looking at the numbers," Werner Borchert, vice-president of operations at Etihad, told the English-language daily Gulf News.

"Etihad is also interested in the 777-200LR passenger version because we have plans to launch non-stop routes and we are looking into it but it is too early to say anything more," he added.

Last year, state-owned Etihad signed a USD$1.09 billion deal with Boeing for five wide-bodied 777-300ER planes and a memorandum of understanding with Airbus to acquire up to 36 planes worth as much as USD$7 billion.

Borchert told the newspaper that with the delivery of the five Boeing aircraft between October and December 2005, the airline would have a fleet of 14 aircraft.

Etihad, launched in 2003, is one of several fast-growing airlines in the Gulf, where big state budgets and a desire to boost tourism to the region have led to a surge in demand for new aircraft.

(Reuters)

AFL

July 1st, 2005, 05:50 AM

i would rather say the 777 is a better plane than the A340s. i heard a guy who works as an engineer on A340s (you can view his comments in www.askcaptainlim.com) complaints that the new A340-500 is just not reliable enough because there has been many engine failures and the plane consumes much more fuel than the 777...

Effer

July 1st, 2005, 05:52 AM

pflo777

July 1st, 2005, 11:44 AM

a bit off topic:

Well the top one's the ol' Boeing 2707, scrapped in the late 60s or early 70s when environmentalists went nuts. Unlike the Concorde, this would've seated up to 300 people making it economically viable. Lockheed also entered the contest with the L-2000 but it lost. That must be a pic of the one that was partially built and saved by a museum

can u tell me how they wanted to put 300 people in that aircraft? It doesnt look bigger than concorde....

Isan

July 12th, 2005, 02:52 PM

Qantas eyes 777 as ‘hub buster’

Australian flag carrier renews interest in Boeing airliner’s potential for achieving non-stop ultra-long-haul flights

Australia’s Qantas Airways is showing renewed interest in the Boeing 777-200LR as the US manufacturer edges closer to offering an “economic payload” on potential ultra-long-haul services from Sydney.

Qantas chief executive Geoff Dixon said at the UK Aviation Club in London last week: “While we ordered the [Airbus] A380, we’re also looking very seriously at the 777LR, and, if Boeing gets its maths right, it could be what we call our ‘hub-buster’ strategy.”

Dixon says that, although the A380 is required to boost capacity at slot-constrained airports, non-stop flights from Sydney to London remain the “holy grail”, enabling it to avoid stopping in hubs such as Singapore or Bangkok. He says Boeing is “now not too far from getting an economic payload into London”.

The still-air distance from Sydney to London Heathrow is 17,000km (9,190nm), but allowances for headwinds and minimum fuel reserves require a range of 17,600km. At a stop on the 777-200LR’s world tour at London Gatwick last week, Boeing officials said the aircraft’s official range had been extended to 17,400km, or about 19h based on 301 passengers and with three auxiliary tanks. Brad Till, regional director product marketing at Boeing Commercial Airplanes, says 500h of testing has shown its range is “a few hundred nautical miles more than expected”.

Boeing saw similar gains with the 777-300ER, which was originally expected to fly 13,300km, but achieved 14,700km due to an increased take-off weight, better-than-expected fuel consumption in cruise and a package of drag- reduction, engine-performance and weight-reduction enhancements (Flight International, 25 January–1 February).

But Till warns: “We’re still a little bit short of Sydney to London, even with this aircraft.” He says the route is one of a few specific customer demands that are “beyond the reasonable”.

Qantas is also interested in using the aircraft for direct services to New York Kennedy airport – a flying distance of 16,000km from Sydney, says Dixon.

He says the -200LR must be able to operate to London without a payload penalty: “For us it’s not a trade-off of passengers for range. We are an airline that needs to make money – we don’t do loss-leading flights.”

Boeing says it will attempt a record-breaking 24h flight with the -200LR in September.

Justin Wastnage / London

Isan

July 14th, 2005, 05:51 PM

Boeing looks to Asia for buyers
Jul 14

Boeing, the world's second-biggest maker of commercial planes, hopes airlines in India, the Middle East and Asia will buy its 777-200LR model, as losses at North American carriers forced them to cut orders.

"We think there is demand for 200 passenger versions of the plane and 200 of the freighter model," said Boeing's 777 program chief Lars Andersen in Hong Kong.

Sales of the 777-200LR have been hurt as losses at North American airlines and surging fuel costs reduced the need for an aircraft that can fly non-stop for 17,445 kilometres, or 10 per cent further than the Airbus A340-500.

The airlines of India and China may be the world's biggest aircraft buyers in the next 20 years, as they renew their fleets and expand to cater for increasing demand for air travel. Chinese airlines might need 1790 planes valued at $US230 billion ($303.87 billion) by 2023, while India-based carriers could buy 570 planes, Airbus said in March.

US carriers including United Airlines, Delta Air Lines and American Airlines were the 777-200LR's main sales targets. They've struggled to stay solvent since the 2001 terrorist attacks, which also delayed the aircraft's introduction. To bolster its sagging sales, Chicago-based Boeing is promoting the world's longest-range aircraft to Asian airlines.

"A 777 suits carriers in India because they need planes that can fly non-stop to the US or Australia," said Kapil Kaul, the New Delhi-based chief executive of the India unit of the Centre for Asia-Pacific Aviation.

"There is a very large pool of Indians who want to fly such long distances."

Boeing had orders for five 777-200LRs from EVA Airways and Pakistan International Airlines, and was in talks to sell cargo versions of the plane to EVA Airways, he said.

"We're out there everyday to promote the benefits of the aircraft to our customers," Mr Andersen said. "Our philosophy of providing airplanes that can take people where they want to go no matter how far they want to go is taking hold and airlines are responding," he said.

The Boeing 777-200LR can carry as many as 301 passengers in a standard three-class seating and has a list price of $US225.5 million. The Airbus A350-500, used by Singapore Airlines on its 18-hour non-stop flight to New York, can carry 313 passengers and costs as much as $US211 million.

Long-distance flights may be in demand. Singapore Airlines, which operates the world's longest flight from Singapore to Newark airport in New Jersey, has placed orders for 10 Airbus A340-500 planes.

Boeing's board approved the construction of a freighter version of the 777 aircraft in May, after Air France-KLM Group ordered eight of the planes in a deal valued at $US1.4 billion.

ACE Aviation Holdings, the parent of Air Canada, last month cancelled a $US6.1 billion order for 18 Boeing 777s and 14 787s after the airline's pilots rejected a contract to fly them.

India-based airlines were the biggest aircraft buyers at the Paris International Air Show in June, ordering 213 new planes valued at $US24 billion.

Air India, that nation's biggest overseas carrier, plans to buy 23 777 planes and 27 of the 787 model. The order requires government approval.

Isan

July 19th, 2005, 05:44 PM

B777-200LR "Going The Distance" Asia Tour, Taipei stop July 1st!

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AFL

July 20th, 2005, 12:12 PM

B777-200LR "Going The Distance" Asia Tour, Taipei stop July 1st!

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i thought the plane is in singapore right now???

Isan

July 20th, 2005, 07:17 PM

Some New released PIC on June

On June 28 the Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner, the world's longest-range commercial airplane, debuts at Beijing's Capital International Airport. It was officially named "Zheng He" to commemorate the first voyage of the great Chinese navigator and explorer Zheng He 600 years ago. Its "Going the Distance"world tour started in Canada and will visit more than 20 cities through August. In service it can carry 301 passengers and baggage up to 17,445 kilometers.

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Isan

July 20th, 2005, 07:20 PM

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Isan

July 20th, 2005, 08:30 PM

Boeing confident new long-range plane will help it catch up to Airbus
By Gillian Wong / Associated Press

SINGAPORE -- With its sales lagging behind Airbus, Boeing Co. is confident its newest 777 model will help it catch up to its archrival in the high-stakes battle for long-range jet supremacy.

The new 777-200LR Worldliner is designed to compete directly with the popular Airbus 340-500, which has a flight range of 10,380 miles.

"Airbus had an advantage to sell that kind of airplane without any competitor at the time," Lars Anderson, vice president of Boeing's 777 program, said Friday, while on a 20-city tour around the world pitching the new jet.

Boeing says its plane has several advantages over its Airbus competitor: It claims to use 20 percent less fuel and can carry more passengers and up to 11 tons more cargo.

Still, the first delivery of the 777-200LR, to Pakistan International Airlines, isn't until 2006. Already, 18 A340-500s are in use by some of the world's biggest carriers like Singapore Airlines Ltd. and Hong Kong-based Cathay Pacific.

The 777-200LR carries 301 passengers in a three-class configuration. The A340-500 carries 280.

Pakistan's national carrier has ordered two of the new Boeing planes while Taiwan's Eva Airways has placed orders for three. Three other airlines have also made firm commitments to the plane, Boeing said in a statement Friday.

The plane, Boeing's fifth version of the 777, is part of a program that began in 1989. As recently as last year, when Airbus was speeding ahead with orders for its long-range offerings -- A340-500, A380s and A350s -- Boeing was still working on its mid-range 787 Dreamliner.

Both Boeing and Airbus claim their planes are the world's longest-range airliners.

"The 777-200LR is capable of connecting almost any two cities in the world nonstop" Boeing said in a statement.

In mid-2004, a Singapore Airlines A340-500 set a world record by flying 18 hours from Singapore to New York, the longest distance for a nonstop commercial flight.

The Chicago-based company, which builds most of its commercial planes in the Seattle area, has lost to Airbus in commercial airplane sales the past two years.

At the Paris air show, Le Bourget, in June, Airbus sold $33.5 billion worth of airplanes with 280 orders while Boeing made 146 jet sales worth about $15 billion.

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A345

July 21st, 2005, 09:48 AM

While I don't dispute the technical superiority of the Boeing 777-200LR over the Airbus 340-500, I personally feel Boeing could have done better with the naming.

The A343, A345 and A346 refer to very different planes, but B772, B772ER and B772LR give me the impression that they're just slightly improved versions of one another. In computer terms, it's like comparing ABC Software Ver 1.2a with Ver 1.2b. Perhaps Boeing could have named its planes B772, B774 and B776 or something along those lines instead.

Personally, I am a fan of the A345, but that's because I've had the opportunity to try this wonderful aircraft with our wonderful airline twice. Who knows, maybe my opinions will change if SIA orders the B772LR. Then it'd be time to change my nick. :lol:

A345

July 21st, 2005, 09:54 AM

I'm a little confused. There's mention that the GE90-115B will power both the B772LR and B773ER, however Post #6 (http://skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=1909352&postcount=6) says the B772LR is powered by the GE90-110B1. Which is right?

A345

July 21st, 2005, 10:13 AM

It looks nice...but the A345 is better for meI share your sentiments. Aesthetically, I think the A345 looks better. Much longer and "grander-looking". The B772LR looks -- this is just my perception :) -- like a typical medium-haul B777 to me.

AFL

July 21st, 2005, 10:57 AM

I share your sentiments. Aesthetically, I think the A345 looks better. Much longer and "grander-looking". The B772LR looks -- this is just my perception :) -- like a typical medium-haul B777 to me.

I like the 777 really, maybe the plane is just like any other plane you've seen around, but hey, in the inside it's a whole new bird.

Isan

July 21st, 2005, 10:50 PM

i thought the plane is in singapore right now???

Not sure and could be of its the second final trip in Asia, Singapore now after ariving to Hong Kong on 13th July, than she will be ongoing to Australia to the end :)

AFL

July 22nd, 2005, 11:04 AM

A345

July 28th, 2005, 07:51 AM

GE90-115B actually powers the 777 300ER while GE90-110B powers the 777-200LR, got that?
Got it. Thanks for the clarification.

hkskyline

July 28th, 2005, 08:06 AM

Photos from recent 777-200LR visit to Hong Kong by 253 from HKADB :

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AFL

July 28th, 2005, 09:59 AM

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: That's More Like It... I love the pics!!!!

Isan

August 11th, 2005, 12:31 PM

Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner completes World Tour
10 August 2005

The Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner returned to Seattle this past Sunday after completing its "Going the Distance" tour that took the airplane to 24 cities across the globe.

The tour began the evening of June 9 with a flight from Montreal to Paris, where the 777-200LR had a week-long stay at the Paris Air Show. The 777-200LR visited cities across the Middle East, Asia, Europe, Australia, and North America. Among the cities visited were Singapore, Islamabad, Beijing, Dubai, Sydney, Hong Kong, Mumbai, London, Mexico City, New Delhi, Taipei, Doha and Newark.

"On this tour the 777-200LR demonstrated its unmatched range capability, as well as its superior efficiency and passenger comfort," said Lars Andersen, vice president and program manager, 777 Program, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "The response to the airplane from airline customers around the world has been overwhelmingly positive."

During the 61-day world tour the 777-200LR flew a distance of more than 70,000 nautical miles (129,640 kilometers); made 38 separate flights, and visited 17 countries. General Electric Aircraft Engines, Bose, Thales, AeroMobile, Motorola and Teague were among Boeing's tour partners.

The 777-200LR will continue its flight testing as Boeing prepares the airplane for certification later this year. The first 777-200LR will be delivered to Pakistan International Airlines in early 2006.

The 777-200LR, capable of connecting virtually any two cities in the world nonstop, is the fifth 777 model. In service it can carry 301 passengers and baggage up to 9,420 nautical miles (17,445 kilometers).

In addition to Pakistan International Airlines, other airlines that have ordered or announced commitments for the 777-200LR include Air India, Jet Airways, EVA Air and Qatar Airways.

Later this year, the Worldliner will attempt a new record for nonstop distance traveled by a commercial airplane.

Isan

September 7th, 2005, 09:44 PM

777-200LR Flight Test Journal
06 September 2005
Say cheese
Deb Hanford, Flight Test photographer
Joe Parke, Flight Test photographer

We're not exactly fashion photographers, but we spend an awful lot of time taking pictures of "super models" doing some pretty amazing runway work.

The two of us make up Boeing's Flight Test Photography department, and we think we have the best jobs in the company - most of the time. Some doubt creeps into our minds on those occasions when we have to be on the runway at Edwards Air Force Base at 4 a.m., or when we have to climb inside a fuel tank or an engine.

While many of you have seen examples of our work - in the form of press-release photos, first-flight videos or if you have been reading this journal on a regular basis - the vast majority of our work is seen by a very limited number of people, or no one at all.

That's because a lot of our work deals with the technical side of Flight Test, and the images we take would be of little interest to anyone except those who request it.

Sometimes, the images we produce would seem downright boring to most people. For example, we might be asked to video tape the reaction of a certain part under specific flight conditions. Well, if the desired reaction is no reaction at all, and if the test is successful, the video will show this certain part doing nothing. Pretty boring to most people, but the engineers who designed the part will do cartwheels in the aisles when they see the video.

We also get to do our share of exciting stuff, especially during test programs like the one going on now with the 777-200LR Worldliner. We accompany planes to places like Edwards, where they test things like minimum flying velocity, abusive takeoffs and engine failures. Those are very dramatic. On occasion, our jobs have taken us to some exotic locations - including New Zealand and South America - but that doesn't happen very often.

For the most part, the videos and photos we capture are used for data analysis and serve as visual records so if the FAA or anyone else wants to know how a certain test was instrumented, we can pull out a photo and show them. Visual data is considered backup data to the digital data, but on those rare occasions when digital data fails, the visual data becomes primary.

Between the two of us, we have 43 years of Boeing experience, 38 of those in Flight Test. That is a real benefit because of the technical aspects of our job. We've gained a lot of intricate knowledge about airplane systems, and when a lot of technical jargon is being tossed around in pre-flight meetings, we understand most of it. If there is something we don't understand, we always ask. We get only one chance during these tests. They are very expensive and if the test is a success, they won't do it again just because we didn't get our photo.

We're referred to as Flight Test photographers, but that only tells part of the story. We're really a full-service organization when it comes to photo and video, including printing and editing. For instance, if someone wants a DVD with video highlights from tests being conducted at Edwards, we can put it together. We can even provide full darkroom and motion picture services, although the evolution of digital photography and video has made that more or less obsolete.

We also take a lot of pride in our response times. When we're asked to be on the runway in 13 minutes to capture something, we try to be there in 12 - because we have the best jobs in the company.

31 August 2005
The Cave
Noel Lucero, Lead, Aerodynamics Performance Certification, Takeoff Team
Fred Krueger, Lead, Flight Test Aero Analysis Engineering Team

Flight tests of the 777-200LR, or any other airplane model, produce an enormous amount of data. All of that information needs to be carefully analyzed to make sure our tests tell us what we need to know: Is the airplane performing to Boeing standards and FAA certification requirements?

That's a lot of what our teams do. We determine the conditions or specific performance characteristics that need testing. Then, we make sure the airplane gets the necessary instrumentation required for us to gather the data we need. During testing, our groups run software tools that calculate real-time and post condition data. This information allows us to evaluate condition quality and pilot techniques.

We give the pilots a "bug card." This card tells them the parameters we're targeting for the next test condition. Our teams have created very nice software tools that generate the bug card onboard the airplane. It includes the takeoff field lengths and the target engine failure speed, rotation speed, climb-out speed and pitch angle, and the power setting to hit the target thrust-to-weight ratio at liftoff.

Then we go through and conduct the targeted condition. As soon as they call "condition off" and we're turning around to come back and land, we're busy processing the data.

We also give the pilots feedback about how they flew the condition - such as how they hit the target speeds, pitch rates and pitch angles, or if they used too much wheel during an engine-out condition and raised some spoilers. If the condition targets were missed, we work with the pilots to determine what techniques they could use to get the kind of performance we're looking for.

We work together to see if the last condition was good or bad, based on how the condition met predicted performance and if the atmospheric conditions were within tolerances, and if we need to fly it again or can move on to the next test condition. For some programs there isn't much turnaround time between conditions, maybe five or 10 minutes, so we have to turn data around very quickly. Even though we have the tools to do a lot of the data analysis onboard the airplane, after the test day is over we still go back to "The Cave."

If you've talked to anybody who has been on a remote at Edwards Air Force Base in California, you've probably heard about "The Cave." It is just a hotel room or conference room, but it has a colorful history. It's where we keep the equipment that allows us to analyze flight test data with a fine-toothed comb, on-site. The first hotel room that served this purpose was a bit of a dump - dark and dingy, which is the genesis of the name, "The Cave."

There are sometimes different groups that have to be in this tiny room together for long hours. So we set up some rules, which make it fun. For instance, you can't be in the cave barefoot. Imagine what it would be like in this tiny room with everyone's bare feet on top of the table that we're all working on! It's amazing how well we manage to work together and get our jobs done.

The Cave is also like our own little network. We take our laptops, a router and a server and we're in constant communication with Seattle to supply testing updates. We take everything into The Cave in case we need to make changes on the fly. The airplane performance is what it is. You can't change it. We have to see if it was flown correctly within the parameters we're looking for and if the atmospheric conditions were good enough to get consistent data.

Flight testing the -200LR at Edwards went pretty well, especially compared to its predecessor, the -300ER. For the earlier model we ended up waiting for 45 days to do five days worth of testing, mostly because the winds were blowing like crazy. We need calm winds, which means testing at the crack of dawn. We were onboard the airplane at 4:45 for a 5:39 taxi down the runway, which makes for a long day. We do more before 9 a.m. than the Air Force does the rest of the day!

26 August 2005
Cruise control
Mariann Jansen, autoflight systems engineer
Jim Vanden Brook, autoflight certification leader
Doug Ormiston, autoflight systems engineer

Autopilot is just what the name implies - operating key airplane flight functions automatically. It's like the cruise control on your car. Only much more advanced. Let me give you an idea of what's involved. The Autopilot Flight Director System (AFDS) is the main component to autopilot. AFDS provides two major types of guidance: the automatic pilot and the Flight Director.

Automatic pilot sends out commands that move the control surfaces in the cockpit, and the Flight Director requires the pilot to manually control the airplane, but with some guidance. When flying the Flight Director, the pilot lines up and centers the pitch and roll command bars, which gives her the guidance she wants.

Both systems can have a selection of different modes. For takeoff, only Flight Director guidance is available. Once the airplane gets above 200 feet, and for the remainder of the flight, various autopilot modes are available. The pilots use the Mode Control Panel (MCP) to select the desired AFDS mode, altitude, heading and speed.

For example, there is a mode that just holds the airplane's altitude and one that allows the pilot to change heading. There also are what we call L-Nav and V-Nav modes, or lateral and vertical navigation, which are the most popular. These modes allow airlines to set up pre-programmed flight paths. The paths can always be changed once the flight is in progress.

The most complicated mode is "autoland," which is the automatic landing function. It's the one we spend the most time testing. It has to be very precise and there are a wide variety of problems that can turn up. It has to be able to handle different facilities, terrain and Instrument Landing Systems (ILS) characteristics. On the 777, ILS is currently the only guidance we allow in the autoland mode.

If the airplane gets within range of an ILS and the pilot wants to do an approach, she selects the 'approach' button on the mode control panel. The pilot must manually move the flap lever and the gear handle. Then, typically the pilot will arm auto-speed brakes and auto-brakes, which provide automatic braking on the ground. The airplane can come to a complete stop on the runway without any additional manual action.

We have to meet strict FAA autoland performance and integrity requirements, ranging from how closely we track the ILS beams, to where on the runway the airplane touches down. We have to anticipate almost any condition the pilots may encounter.

Autoland is not necessarily a mirror image of how the pilot would fly. The idea is to get pilots comfortable with what autopilot is doing so they don't have to make a lot of corrections just before touchdown.

A lot of our certification testing package is done using the flight simulator. We first demonstrate in actual flight test a good cross-section of the challenges the system might face in real service. Then, to prove the accuracy of our flight simulation, we use flight test data on configuration, winds, terrain and runway information to recreate the flight test scenarios. Once we know it's accurate, we use the simulation to run a statistical performance analysis covering tens of thousands of approaches, varying everything from airplane configuration, airport parameters and winds, to a selection of failures.

We listen to what the airlines tell us about the autopilot performance and capabilities and usually make a few changes with each airplane derivative. There are several exciting improvements in the works for upcoming models. That's the benefit of technology. It allows us to always improve our products.

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In flight test, over the Puget Sound area, most likely testing the autoland and auto-brake functions.

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As you can see, this was a great location for testing - no mountains, clear sky and early morning cool air.

Isan

September 7th, 2005, 09:47 PM

Boeing 777-200LR Worldiner

Impressive :okay:

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New York Yankee

September 7th, 2005, 11:05 PM

i love to see that bird flying!!!

and the colors are beautiful!!!

Isan

November 11th, 2005, 09:00 AM

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Isan

November 11th, 2005, 09:03 AM

Boeing attempts New World Record for Distance with 777-200LR Worldliner Flight
9 November 2005

Boeing is aiming to make aviation history today when a Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner takes off from Hong Kong flying eastbound to London, attempting to set a world distance record. The 777-200LR (Longer Range) will take off with a full load of fuel and 35 passengers and crew, flying nonstop on a route that is likely to exceed a distance of more than halfway around the world.

"The record distance flight is a demonstration of the outstanding operating efficiency and reliability of the Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner," said Lars Andersen, 777 Program vice president and program manager.

A representative from the United States National Aeronautics Association will fly with the airplane to monitor the record attempt. In addition, representatives of the Guinness Book of Records will meet the airplane when it lands. The record-breaking flight is part of the inaugural "Guinness World Records Day" on November 9, a day which is dedicated to record attempting throughout the world. Guinness World Records representatives will be monitoring the flight's progress and meeting it upon landing at Heathrow to present it with the Guinness World Record certificate.

"The flight plan we have in place will allow us to set a new distance record well above the current one," said Capt. Suzanna Darcy-Hennemann, the project pilot leader for the 777-200LR record flight attempt. "I'm honored to be among the team of outstanding Boeing people who have made this historic flight possible."

The Worldliner's flight is expected to last about 23 hours and cover more than 11,000 nautical miles (20,300 km). Two sets of pilot crews will be required. Darcy-Hennemann will be at the controls of the 777-200LR along with Capt. Frank Santoni, chief pilot for the 777 Program, when the airplane takes off from Hong Kong. Capt. John Cashman and Capt. Randy Austin are the additional Boeing pilots who will fly the airplane.

In addition to the crew, passengers onboard the flight include Boeing executives, journalists from media organizations around the world, pilots from Pakistan International Airlines and Singapore Airlines, and representatives from General Electric Aircraft Engines, the maker of the efficient and reliable GE90-115B engines that power the 777-200LR and 777-300ER (Extended Range).

The 777-200LR, capable of connecting virtually any two cities around the globe, is the fifth 777 model. In service, it can carry 301 passengers and baggage up to 9,420 nautical miles (17,445 kilometers).

The first 777-200LR will be delivered to Pakistan International Airlines in early 2006. In addition, EVA Air, Qatar Airways and Air India have announced orders or commitments for the 777-200LR. To date, 42 airlines around the world have ordered more than 700 777s.