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davidwsk

October 30th, 2011, 03:16 AM

Kudos to Azran! Let's boycott MAHB.

Sunday October 30, 2011
AirAsia X slams Malaysia Airports

By REGINA LEE
regina@thestar.com.my

PUTRAJAYA: AirAsia X, the long-haul budget airline subsidiary of Tune Group, has fired one salvo after another at Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (MAHB).

Its chief executive officer Azran Osman-Rani aired his grievances against the airport operator via Twitter yesterday.

What irked him most was the delay in the construction of the new budget terminal at the KL International Airport, KLIA 2, and the recent hike in airport fees imposed by MAHB.

“Would be interesting to sponsor (Powerman Malaysia Duathlon) if 2012 edition held at KLIA. But too bad MAHB will miss construction deadline for KLIA2.

“If the Government allowed AirAsia/Sime Darby to build new low-cost carrier terminal at Labu, it would have been ready by now, no public funds used, and lower charges,” he said, revisiting the old controversy of the Government's earlier nod for AirAsia to build their own terminal in Labu before U-turning in 2009 and ordering MAHB to build the terminal instead.

“MAHB promised the prime minister they could deliver the same.

“Now, delayed construction, public funds cost overruns, and they're hiking fees! Way to go, GLC,” he said.

MAHB had recently announced the International Passenger Service Charge (PSC) and Aircraft Landing and Parking Charges.

The PSC has been raised by 28% from RM25 to RM32 for international passengers departing from LCCT-KLIA and the Terminal 2 Kota Kinabalu.

This has been lambasted by Azran in his series of hard-hitting tweets, saying that there was no consultation in MAHB's decision.

“The critical failure of this knee-jerk policy decision to reinstate airport fee monopolistic increase, is that there is no consultation or analysis.

“We keep taking two steps forward, and get dragged two steps backward. Macam mana nak maju? (How do we progress?)” he asked.

Asked by one of his Twitter followers what he thought was the reason behind the fee increase, Azran had only one word in response: “Tamak! (Greed!)”

When contacted by The Star yesterday, MAHB declined to comment.

patchay

October 30th, 2011, 01:44 PM

constipation

October 30th, 2011, 03:01 PM

I really hope Tan Sri Rafidah Aziz (AA X non exec chairman) can do something about this, there must be a political will from a strong political figure to correct this mess. I believe there is a small little Napoleon in MAHB (same as in other government agency)

Vince

October 31st, 2011, 01:04 AM

daeng_jal

October 31st, 2011, 11:09 AM

Anything touched by this government: cost overun and delays. That is nothing new and Airasia should have known that. He should have made threats earlier when the government made a u-turn on his own terminal in Labu......going with the flow of the government laid the foundation for his own misery now.

"airasia" are owned by "this" government..seriusly,go wiki it..

daeng_jal

October 31st, 2011, 11:18 AM

MAHB will have more say on AirAsia if they build the ERL link and aerobridges, thus would spell doom for AA.

Although this time most people will agree with MAHB (raising prices), but as someone who understands AirAsia's predicament, I think MAHB should stand behind this entrepreneurship company rather than bullying it over.

my 2 cents

It makes no sense in Helping an entrepreneurial company out of the goodness in their heart..its all bout the money n having a customer,which cried foul a lot,n bcoz they got a big guy behind them.they hutang a lot,even after being given killer discount..then go mock u in public some more..

Come on people AA is no robin hood..they had for a numbers of years profiteering on tax payers money..

newmalayan

November 1st, 2011, 08:06 AM

airport needs money to operate. and money comes from tax. MAHB is no gov agency asking allocation 100% from the g.

AA has 'betrayed' malaysia by having their asean HQ in jakarta for whatever reason they said. and media is being too bias towards MAHB with no any comments from the other side is reported. bias.

sawjohn

November 2nd, 2011, 11:24 AM

Cost over run + delay and AA airport in Labu are 2 different issues.

I am not sure how the Azran pointed out the cost over run and delay as the KLIA2 still under construction.

Thanks god that Malaysian is havnig a KLIA2 instead of the CHEAPO AA airport at Labu. It make more sense to have the LCCT Hub next to the KLIA and serve with ERL than in the middle of no where.

And pls go ahead with the earo bridge at KLIA2 for convenient and safety!!! AA just have to realise that they need to up their level of service as my last trip with AA was in total chao due to passangers were LOST on their way to the plane. AA been acting like a spoil kid inthis issue. Shame.

Kudos to Azran! Let's boycott MAHB.

Sunday October 30, 2011
AirAsia X slams Malaysia Airports

By REGINA LEE
regina@thestar.com.my

PUTRAJAYA: AirAsia X, the long-haul budget airline subsidiary of Tune Group, has fired one salvo after another at Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (MAHB).

Its chief executive officer Azran Osman-Rani aired his grievances against the airport operator via Twitter yesterday.

What irked him most was the delay in the construction of the new budget terminal at the KL International Airport, KLIA 2, and the recent hike in airport fees imposed by MAHB.

“Would be interesting to sponsor (Powerman Malaysia Duathlon) if 2012 edition held at KLIA. But too bad MAHB will miss construction deadline for KLIA2.

“If the Government allowed AirAsia/Sime Darby to build new low-cost carrier terminal at Labu, it would have been ready by now, no public funds used, and lower charges,” he said, revisiting the old controversy of the Government's earlier nod for AirAsia to build their own terminal in Labu before U-turning in 2009 and ordering MAHB to build the terminal instead.

“MAHB promised the prime minister they could deliver the same.

“Now, delayed construction, public funds cost overruns, and they're hiking fees! Way to go, GLC,” he said.

MAHB had recently announced the International Passenger Service Charge (PSC) and Aircraft Landing and Parking Charges.

The PSC has been raised by 28% from RM25 to RM32 for international passengers departing from LCCT-KLIA and the Terminal 2 Kota Kinabalu.

This has been lambasted by Azran in his series of hard-hitting tweets, saying that there was no consultation in MAHB's decision.

“The critical failure of this knee-jerk policy decision to reinstate airport fee monopolistic increase, is that there is no consultation or analysis.

“We keep taking two steps forward, and get dragged two steps backward. Macam mana nak maju? (How do we progress?)” he asked.

Asked by one of his Twitter followers what he thought was the reason behind the fee increase, Azran had only one word in response: “Tamak! (Greed!)”

When contacted by The Star yesterday, MAHB declined to comment.

patchay

November 2nd, 2011, 06:25 PM

You guys need to understand that MAHB is a monopolist (and further a GLC) and their attitude is wrong. C'mon up till today they have not justified their hike in airport tax and they did not disclose their intention in advance to all their tenants - and I call this poor management.

We need to understand AA's operating stuffs and the LCC business model, and know that "Cost" is very important to them in order to offer attractive fares, which is exactly the needs of the public, right?

FYI, for AAX - cost is even more crucial due to their long travel duration in the air.

Another issue is there was no relocation of AA to Jakarta. The one in Jakarta is a newly set-up regional role, and there are many reasons to be there since Indonesia will be the enormous market and ASEAN secretariat (open sky) is there. The lobbying continues in Indonesia for more air rights to more Indonesian cities - and this is a classic example of AA being a forward-thinking entrepreneur company. Whereas there is no point to have a regional role in Sepang when our Govt is not even giving Sydney to AAX (flying to Sydney is an estimated 1% contribution to our GDP from revenue generation, integration and tourism impact).

That Labu thing was brought up as a point of frustration, but I agree it is totally pointless for Azran to mention that.

Lastly in service industry, if the offeror (seller) like MAHB cannot satisfy the tenant (buyer) like AA is considered poor customer service. In terms of rightfulness, who is the winner as such? Of coz customer wins!

nazrey

November 4th, 2011, 12:22 PM

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travellator

November 10th, 2011, 09:56 AM

MALAYSIA AIRPORTS UNVEILS klia2 RETAIL PROPOSITION

Sepang, 10 November - Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (Malaysia Airports) today unveiled its highly-anticipated retail proposition for its next generation hub, klia2, urging retailers to work together with it to shape new trends in travel retail shopping. Addressing close to 400 potential retailers, Managing Director of Malaysia Airports Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad said that that Malaysia Airports' objective is to leverage on the popularity of low-cost travel and transform klia2 into a destination that provides opportunities for leisure, shopping, tourism, business opportunities and employment.

Said Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad: " klia2 is designed to maximize on its present and future commercial value. It will be the standard bearer of future low-cost carrier terminals to come, changing the face and concept of low-cost terminals. Together with AirAsia, AirAsiaX and other low cost carriers, we will help to transform KLIA and klia2 into a successful major regional hub for Asia-Pacific.

"Malaysia is well poised to take pole position in the race for a more substantial share of the low-cost travellers' wallet size. After all, we are home to one of the world's largest and the most successful low-cost carrier airlines. In presenting the klia2 brand value, Senior General Manager - Commercial Services of Malaysia Airports Puan Faizah Khairuddin revealed that klia2 will be a technology-driven, shopper-oriented travel and lifestyle hub infused with a youthful culture. "In klia2, we are creating an exciting retail adventure that embodies a new and differentiated retail experience; where services are a step ahead, facilities are future-oriented, offerings are robust and experience unforgettable. "klia2 is not just an airport. It is an airport in a mall designed to maximize commercial offerings. klia2 boasts of one of the highest percentage of retail space offered by any commercial airports and will be the ultimate travel retail platform to showcase brands, products and services.

"klia2 will offer both the space and facilities to accommodate huge numbers of passengers. A klia2 retailer can expect to be part of a thriving shopping scene that will see a projection more than RM1.2billion in sales in the first year alone," said Puan Faizah.
According to a survey undertaken by Malaysia Airports on low-cost travellers, 67% of travellers are between the ages of 22 to 44 travelling an average of once every two months. Additionally 43% of the travellers are white collar with high disposable income and the average amount of time they spend at the airport is two hours. All in all, these are premier travellers that would be passing through klia2 and there is a huge opportunity to tap on the potential of these travellers.
Puan Faizah revealed: "Our aspiration is to change the mindset of these travellers, making them realize that their vacation begins and end at klia2. We want to engage them and give them an experience that is ELITE - Experiential, Liberating, Innovative, Thrilling and Ever-changing - so that they will keep coming back to find out more.

In short, we want them to be 'Be Curious.' "The commercial spaces will be designed for success, balancing the needs of retailers and customers. We will work together with retailers to stimulate customers' senses and empower them to do things their way. Opportunities will be there to maximize on technology, marketing platforms, trends and services," added Puan Faizah. klia2 will offer 225 commercial lots for retail, F&B and services. Its offerings will be in the form of Bars and Island Cafes, Duplex Storefronts and Duty-free Walkthrough. Additionally, the new hub will incorporate a Movie and Sports Lounge and a Kids' Zone providing retailers with more thematic or destination retail approach.

"Hence, klia2 is designed to maximize its present and future commercial value. It will be the standard bearer for future low-cost carrier terminals and, together with KLIA, it is set to change the landscape of the commercial real estate for Malaysia Airports.
"Indeed, there is no better time than now to be part of the most exciting travel retail destination of the future.

http://www.4-traders.com/news/MALAYSIA-AIRPORTS-UNVEILS-klia2-RETAIL-PROPOSITION--13884535/

maafcakap

November 10th, 2011, 11:46 AM

triple-j

November 11th, 2011, 07:02 PM

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sapphire blue

November 12th, 2011, 05:51 AM

wahh...sudah nampak bumbung :cheers:

aim11086

November 14th, 2011, 07:17 PM

nice progress here..!!!

rizalhakim

November 17th, 2011, 04:20 AM

Bidding opens for 225 commercial lots in KLIA2

MORE than 400 potential retailers are bidding for the 225 commercial lots at the KLIA2 next generation budget terminal LCCT which is expected to be completed by October 2012.

Its highly anticipated retail proposition was unveiled by Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (Malaysia Airports) managing director Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad.

“The main objective is to leverage on the popularity of low-cost travel and transform KLIA2 into a destination that provides opportunities for leisure, shopping, tourism, business opportunities and employment,’’ said Bashir.

In presenting the KLIA2 brand value, senior general manager (commercial services — Malaysia Airports) Faizah Khairuddin said MAHB has projected more than RM1.2bil in sales in the first year alone.

“The response to the retail proposition has been overwhelming. We will carry out tenders in two batches with the first starting in the first week of December and the second to be held from Feb 15, 2012. The final list will be confirmed by July,’’ added Faizah.

She said the evaluation exercise would be carried out by a committee following strict selection criteria for the 225 lots which would be divided into 50% for retail, 40% for food and beverage (F&B) and 10% for services.

The offerings will be in the form of bars and island cafes, duplex storefronts and duty-free walkthrough, a movie and sports lounge and a children’s zone.

“A KLIA2 retailer can expect to be part of a thriving shopping scene and with one of the highest percentage of retail space offered by any commercial airport, it will be the ultimate travel retail platform to showcase brands, products and services.

“KLIA2 can handle 30 million passengers in the initial stage with a potential to cater to 45 million, so the business opportunities are very huge,’’ added Faizah.

She said the 40 operators at the present LCCT hub would also have to follow the tender process for the KLIA2 outlets and that it was not an automatic choice for them and they were informed about it.

There are 61 outlets at the present LCCT low-cost terminal hub.

nazrey

November 22nd, 2011, 08:38 AM

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sc4

November 22nd, 2011, 04:34 PM

^^ That's crazy, a third runway....can't they utilize the existing ones.....

dengilo

November 22nd, 2011, 11:46 PM

klbloke

November 23rd, 2011, 01:35 AM

KLIA2 to cost more than RM2.5b?
Written by Isabelle Francis
Tuesday, 22 November 2011 13:13

KUALA LUMPUR: In the midst of the war of words between Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha and AirAsia Bhd co-founder Tan Sri Tony Fernandes over the recent rise in airport charges, speculation is rife that the cost of KLIA2 has increased significantly from the initial estimates of between RM2 billion and RM2.5 billion.

Officials from Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) declined to comment on the cost of the project, emphasing that even if there was an increase in expenditure in constructing the KLIA2, it would not affect the passengers nor the airlines.

“The only avenue for us to recoup the costs is from non-aeronautical revenue such as the retail segment,” said an official.

The official was commenting on speculation that the cost of completing the KLIA2, the new low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT), has escalated to more than RM4 billion and a costlier airport would mean MAHB has to increase its charges — including airline parking and landing fees and airport taxes — to recoup its investment.

The MAHB official said these concerns are unfounded because aeronautical charges are regulated.

“It’s already set in stone and subject to review every five years. It should not matter if the cost is above RM2.5 billion because MAHB will account for all costs. It is not the government or any airline’s concern as we can’t simply raise charges.

“Be mindful that aeronautical charges, particularly PSC (passenger service charge), are never based on the cost of building MAHB’s airports. Airports are never built on ROI (return on investment). It’s very unlike the models they have in the UK ... the ROI for MAHB on KLIA2 is only based on non-aeronautical income,” said the official.

It has been reported recently that the KLIA2 retail space, which takes up about 20% of the terminal area, will generate some RM1.2 billion in revenue.

The official also said MAHB is a well-run company and the stock is favoured by analysts for its performance and governance.

“It would only be sensible for it to be accountable for what it builds and ensure that it will recoup every cent it invests.”

The Transport Ministry was dragged into the ongoing dispute between AirAsia and MAHB after the airport operator obtained the green light to increase landing and parking charges and
airport tax from Nov 10 this year. This is the first increase in charges after 17 years.

The Transport Ministry approved a RM14 increase in airport tax to RM65 per passenger in most of its international airports while the LCCT in KLIA and the Terminal 2 in Kota Kinabalu saw charges go up by RM7 to RM32 per international passenger. Landing and parking charges will rise in three stages over three years — landing charges will be 9% while parking charges will be increased by 18% per year.

Fernandes, when contacted by The Edge Financial Daily, defended the need for low airport charges and raised questions on the efficiency of MAHB. He was also disappointed that the Transport Ministry has not given attention to AirAsia’s requests.

“It is the poor decision making of MAHB that made me disappointed. When they were building the KLIA2, they say it will cost RM1.2 billion, but now, the airport won’t only cost more but probably will not be ready by 2012 as initially planned,” he said.

Fernandes also responded to Kong’s statement in an interview with Sin Chew daily over the weekend that PSC at airports operated by MAHB were subsidised by the government.

He argued that the passengers at the LCCT were not subsidised by the government and that although MAHB had not raised charges for 17 years, the existing terminal to cater for low-cost travellers was new and did not exist for that long a period.

Kong had told the Chinese daily that the recent increase in airport charges was to lift the government’s burden of subsidising the airport operator to the tune of RM180 million per annum in PSC and it was mainly enjoyed by passengers going abroad.

It is understood that the subsidy was part of an operating agreement between the government and MAHB in 2009.

Fernandes pointed out that the cost of building the existing LCCT was RM300 million and that the airport operator was able to recover the costs within one year based on the previous airport charges.

He also argued that it is not fair for MAHB and the government to compare the cost of KLIA and LCCT to Singapore’s Changi Airport.

“Malaysians aren’t paid Singapore salaries. Our advantage is cost, so, let’s have volume instead of cost,” he said.

Another matter that Fernandes has touched on is the appointment of high-position Transport Ministry officials to the board of MAHB and claimed that it was unfair as the ministry was also the regulator of the aviation industry.

However, Kong refuted the claims made by Fernandes, stating that the appointment was before his tenure in the ministry.

Kong also said that the recent increase in airport charges was not made by the Transport Ministry but came about as a result of negotiations between the Finance Ministry and MAHB. He said the Transport Ministry was only responsible for implementing it.

Kong said the agreement with MAHB was to allow an increase as long as the charges remain competitive in the region.

He said as a Malaysian, he is proud of AirAsia’s success, but highlighted that the government has been supportive of the airline’s growth.

“Of course, I do not deny the airline also has merit, it is important that the government has never prevented the development of AirAsia,” he added.

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/196599-klia2-to-cost-more-than-rm25b.html

Arkdriver

November 23rd, 2011, 02:23 AM

It seem like a crazy idea but i now understand why,Planes spend so much time taxing on ground from the terminal to the runways!Just take a flight to singapore from KLIA keep track of the actual flight time and time spend on the ground!Dont be surprise if 20-30 min avg on the ground at peak hours.

In Amsterdam, the furthest and newest runway is 7km from the terminal. Hahaha. If you're on short hop to London, you spent more time on ground than the actual flight itself. Crazy huh.

But it seems like TF has the same idea as me. He never asked for the third runway. Instead of spending more than 200 million ringgit building a new one, why dont they spend no more than RM 10 million (excluding kickbacks) upgrading our radar equipment to enable simultaneous approach for both runway. Arrival time shortened and voila, u increase your runway utilization.

See how hong kong do that. How can they survive and thriving on two runways. It is much much busier than our beloved KLIA.

Look at Changi too..

Skyprince

November 23rd, 2011, 03:02 AM

If they dream like Dubai ( to get 90 mil pax by 2020 ) rasanya ok kut 3rd runaway tu ?

patchay

November 23rd, 2011, 04:41 AM

dat runway is specially-designed for low-cost carriers... :lol: :lol:

if we talk about utilisation, then AA might as well use KLIA, why the need to build KLIA2?

hahaha tony don't know meh?

Arkdriver

November 23rd, 2011, 07:40 AM

should spend more on equipments and training for our ATCs instead of investing in another hardware.

RosmahM

November 23rd, 2011, 09:45 AM

Exactly complete of utter waste of money which you can use to build much more productive stuff but this is Malaysia so what do you expect but definitely very annoying.
Cheers
Rosmah

ntly1

November 23rd, 2011, 10:00 AM

should spend more on equipments and training for our ATCs instead of investing in another hardware.

^^I agree with you

This is our lousy BN government have to feed their mates with project like that i.e 3rd runway with such big amounts (RM200M). As their mates ain't so hightech to provide hightech equipments for ATCs and that RM10M upgrading radar cost ain't enough for them to share!!:ohno: They are just corrupt experts in wasting money!!

dengilo

November 23rd, 2011, 03:59 PM

should spend more on equipments and training for our ATCs instead of investing in another hardware.

Without a doubt that would be the right thing to do!Is it true that anything from seremban to the south ,that the peninsulas airspace is still controlled by Singapore?:)

dengilo

November 23rd, 2011, 04:00 PM

Exactly complete of utter waste of money which you can use to build much more productive stuff but this is Malaysia so what do you expect but definitely very annoying.
Cheers
Rosmah

:banana:Rosmah in the house!Let me tell u how much i hate u:lol:

chuakz

November 23rd, 2011, 05:31 PM

RosmahM

November 23rd, 2011, 08:22 PM

tell your husband not us

Ok i will .
cheers
rosmah

RosmahM

November 23rd, 2011, 08:23 PM

:banana:Rosmah in the house!Let me tell u how much i hate u:lol:

Ahh this is first time i know that , but anyway thanks for the feedback.
Cheers
Rosmah

D_Y2k.2^

November 24th, 2011, 02:19 AM

Guys is that how you welcome a new forumer?

Arkdriver

November 24th, 2011, 03:00 AM

Bik Mama in the house yo!!!!

Rosmah, what do u think about the new KLIA2. How much you got commission ah. hehehe

@dengilo - nah, the airspace from seremban onwards towards PTP is malaysian controlled. Just like normal border. Once you overland in sumatra its under medan ATC. controller will hand over you to the singapore if you are going to singapore or passing by singapore. If you're going to JHB from KUL or PEN, you'll never have to contact singapore controller.

When we do touch n go's in JHB, you'll be passed to Johor Approach or Johor Tower once we cross the Johor straits and during busy days, after airborne from Changi.

For aircrafts approaching Changi from South of Johor, normally they dont need to be passed to Malaysian controller unless they are interfering with traffics active at Senai.

Under normal circumstances Malaysian airspace under Singapore control is only from Kong Kong all the way to touchdown in Changi and from Pontian (over water) all the way to Changi. This is to facilitate arrival at busy Changi.

dengilo

November 24th, 2011, 04:39 AM

Thanks for the info bro.

daeng_jal

November 24th, 2011, 06:40 AM

Ok i will .
cheers
rosmah

i love you mdm RM, don't mind them..

now, where can i drop my proposal:lol:

nazrey

November 28th, 2011, 06:54 AM

KLIA2 baggage system upgrade to cost MAHB RM100mil more
By B.K. SIDHU Monday November 28, 2011
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/11/28/business/9987740&sec=business

PETALING JAYA: Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) would be upgrading the baggage system at the new low-cost carrier terminal, KLIA2, to be fully automated based on requests made by airlines and this would cost the airport operator an additional RM100mil and push the completion date beyond October 2012, sources said.

It involves redesigning the original baggage system planned for the airport and hacking parts of the airport, which is already 40% complete. The decision on the upgrade of the baggage system only came recently following discussions with airlines, the source said. The original plan was to have a semi-automated system and now the contracts which were awarded early this year would have to be revised.

MAHB would be holding a press conference tomorrow to provide updates on KLIA2.

KLIA2, once completed, would be the most modern low-cost air terminal in Asia to cater for more than 30 million passengers and it would also have the longest skybridge in Asia. :cheers:

The airport is no longer based on its original design where its terminal building was to be sited on a 150,000 sq m area.

To meet regulatory requirements for segregation of international and domestic passengers, the terminal will now be almost double its original size at 255,000 sq m.

“With a bigger terminal building that has a longer runaway and so many other requests made by airlines, including the new baggage system upgrade, the cost to build KLIA2 will go up to about RM4bil.

“Whatever the reasons, the changes have been made to accommodate the airlines because they would be using the terminal eventually .

“It should be the most modern to meet future requirements,'' said another source.

A fully automated baggage system would provide for faster and more efficient sorting of bags and with such an upgrade, KLIA2 baggage system would be at par with the KLIA main terminal building.

A lot of the additional requests came at the point when the designs were already done and the construction had begun,” said the source.

RAM Ratings, meanwhile, reaffirmed the respective long and short-term ratings of AAA and P1 for Malaysia Airports Capital Bhd's (MACB) RM3.10bil Islamic medium-term notes programme (2010/2025) and RM1bil Islamic commercial paper programme (2010/2017).

Both facilities have a combined limit of RM3.1bil in nominal value and are collectively referred to as “the sukuk”. The long-term rating has a stable outlook.

It said MACB was a special-purpose vehicle set up by MAHB to undertake the issuance of the sukuk for the latter.

MAHB is the exclusive 25-year concession holder that operates, manages and maintains the KLIA and 39 other airports in the country.

World 2 World

November 28th, 2011, 09:20 AM

KLIA2, once completed, would be the most modern low-cost air terminal in Asia to cater for more than 30 million passengers and it would also have the longest skybridge in Asia.

ok, d most modern? mmmmmm :nuts:
we need aerobridge pls!!!

patchay

November 28th, 2011, 09:22 AM

We have skyrbidge.
But we don't have aerobridge.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

World 2 World

November 28th, 2011, 09:28 AM

^^
:lol::lol::lol:

triple-j

November 28th, 2011, 09:52 AM

Baggage system upgraded, longer runway and the whole terminal is now almost double than the original design size. It seems to me, due to "airlines" requests here and there they don't bother much about ballooning of cost. Might as well include the controversial aero-bridges...just do the whole she-bang!

choon

November 28th, 2011, 10:58 AM

tunomura

November 28th, 2011, 11:59 AM

I want AEROBRIDGE!!

Skybridge means the linking from KLIa? So no KLIA express to connect?

That "KLIA2 Skybridge" was from main terminal to satellite terminal...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fEMsesiw6vI/TmxQPj7eHPI/AAAAAAAAGvM/3dX_hAcL60A/s1600/klia2-skybridge.jpg

=)

Khaw

November 28th, 2011, 12:35 PM

Absolutely! Aerobridges are more practical. Design of airport does not need another superficial bragging rights as in "longest sky bridge" or "tallest ATC" etc. There are numerous world class airports without "skybridges" and in fact why not make it a ground-up structure connecting the piers. That way it will also have more gates. Hint: Beijing, HK, many many more... Get it right from the get-go, people!

CxIxMaN

November 28th, 2011, 02:28 PM

Its aubsurd to me that they can build a whole new runway, huge terminal and yet they can't put aerobridges??!!

patchay

November 28th, 2011, 02:38 PM

AirAsia doesnt want aerobridges...

LeeighIam

November 28th, 2011, 04:58 PM

:nuts: ure quite right! might as well have the passenges walk over to the second terminal! no need the bridge, its just weird..if u wanna be high tech and new...aerobridge is a must, just doesn't makes sense, new sp
ankin airport and no aerobridge???? ^^
:lol::lol::lol:

patchay

November 28th, 2011, 05:21 PM

Another Malaysia Boleh! title...

World's largest aerobridge-less airport

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

XNeo

November 29th, 2011, 05:41 AM

useless airport.

Arkdriver

November 29th, 2011, 07:11 AM

just add the fucking aerobridge. Leave them, it's up to airasia if they want to use it or not. It's not that other airlines doesn't want to use the goddamn bridge.

dengilo

November 29th, 2011, 07:17 AM

There u go!End of story!

TWK90

November 29th, 2011, 11:40 AM

No aerobridge, no regional hub.

rizalhakim

November 29th, 2011, 11:43 AM

Goodnews....they will build the aeorbridge based on today newspaper....start operation in April 2013

tunomura

November 29th, 2011, 12:34 PM

Goodnews....they will build the aeorbridge based on today newspaper....start operation in April 2013

New lost-cost airport to be completed by April 2013

SEPANG: The new low-cost airport - KLIA2 - is estimated to cost from RM3.6bil to RM3.9bil as the airport will be bigger than originally planned.

Malaysia Airports managing director Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad said at a media briefing on Tuesday that the entire cost of the construction would be fully funded by the company.

The company is the operator of the Kuala Lumpur International Airport.

Bashir said because of the need to add a fully automated baggage system, the new timeline for completion of KLIA2 would now be April 2013 instead of October next year.

“KLIA2 will now be able to cater for 45 million passengers instead of 30 million previously,” he added.

Bashir said the low-cost airport would also have aerobridges and the cost of the aerobridges would come to 25 sen per passenger.

He added that the passenger service tax for KLIA2 would be the same as the LCCT and would only be reviewed in 2014.

constipation

November 29th, 2011, 02:05 PM

^^ i need to take my medications, risperidone(antipsychotic) n clonezepam( sleeping pills)before i turn mad!:bash:

Skyprince

November 29th, 2011, 03:19 PM

I felt 30 million capasity is too small considering the vast expansion of AK... 45 mil is more realistic at least for the next 10 years to come.

patchay

November 29th, 2011, 03:55 PM

Add-On Features as per 29/11/2011:

- Aircraft pier increased from 50 to 68 and another 8 remote, inclusive of 80 built-in Aerobridges
- Third Runway increased from 2.5km to 3.96km to comply with Code E requirement (Airbus A380 needs 3.5km)
- Terminal floorspace increased from 150,000 sq m to 257,000 sq m
- Upgraded from apron control tower to air traffic control tower for KLIA2
- Increased in internal road infrastructure from 8km (1.5km elevated) to 15km with 5.4km elevated
- Fully automated baggage handling system

- Capacity increased from 30 million to 45 million passengers annually*
- Seggregation between international and domestic arrivals and departures*
- Connection for Express Rail Link*
- Ability to expand in future via satellite terminals*
(* not incurred in the revised cost)

Cost:

- From RM2b (2009) to RM3.6b (2010) to at least RM3.9b (2011)

Delay:

- From April 2012 to October 2012 to April 2013

Status: 42% completed

Source: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/klia2-cost-rises-to-rm3.9b-to-only-open-april-2013/
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2011/november2011/29/klia2-major-upgrade-nov29.png

Skyprince

November 29th, 2011, 04:02 PM

^^ Rasanya perkara No1 yg perlu dirisaukan ialah... sampai April 2013 ni Air Asia takkan berkembang hebat di malaysia kah dengan kapasiti LCCT sedia apa ? Pesawat2 yg di order kebanyakannya akan disalurkan ke AirAsia Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines dll ?

klbloke

November 29th, 2011, 04:08 PM

Malaysia Airports and AirAsia should consider use of Main KLIA for AirAsiaX and Subang for some domestic flights before April 2013

James Foong

November 29th, 2011, 04:15 PM

try look into the past announcements and you ll get very confusing statistics:

first design was based on 150,000 sqm with 15mil capacity (before contract awarded).

then, it expanded to 242,000 sqm with 30mil capacity (and subsequently in July 2010, awarded to Uem-Binapuri for RM997.22mil or RM4,121 per sqm)

now, the terminal is again expanded to 257,000 sqm with 45mil capacity. So, actual increase is only a mere 15,000sqm. that's an increase of RM63mil = 15,000 sqm x RM4121 per sqm.

today, MAB bashir is telling the increase is from 150,000 to 257,000 sqm with additional RM420mil on top of RM997mil. so, he is trying to mislead us by referring to first design capacity instead of current awarded 242,000sqm. by doin this, the massive increase cost looks very proportional to the increase terminal size from initial 150,000sqm.

another is the earthwork. Wct was awarded RM363mil for 4.85mil sqm or RM75 per sqm back in 2009. with expanded terminal, an additional 6.3mil sqm of earthwork require and work out to additional RM476mil (= RM75 x 6.34mil.) today he announced RM640mil. :okay:

Khaw

November 30th, 2011, 01:09 AM

Khaw

November 30th, 2011, 01:15 AM

45 million/yr? On top of the 30 million for the original terminal...that many people wants to come to Malaysia? And if so, for what? It's not Paris, London, or even Vegas!

Khaw

November 30th, 2011, 01:38 AM

Just reported from The Star...Tony doesn't want to use them. An airport with idle Aerobridges...very awkward with passengers deplaning onto the Tarmac when a connector is available. A battle of ego between bashir and tf...passengers lose.

patchay

November 30th, 2011, 01:44 AM

as expected Tony will not use the aerobridges, not a single aerobridge.... coz he is afraid that when they use the aerobridge they will have to kowtow to MAHB and the low-cost model will no longer work in KL.... there goes the money to build them... :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

dengilo

November 30th, 2011, 01:57 AM

Here we go again! The clowns are MILKING IT MAX!What Next?Any news On the ERL extension?NO! oh ya not a priority ,That one YTL and Tabung Haji sapu already so it can wait till the very last minute.Lets build a $4blllion terminal right next to a underutilized main terminal and not care how the "the potential pax" get to it.Just put in more $9ringgit busses problem solved!Malaysia memang boleh!By the time this terminal is operational SIA s low cost/Qantas version of LCC will be in business surely the will had taken a bite at the market share by then .Well done MAHB!

Skyprince

November 30th, 2011, 02:03 AM

Malaysia Airports and AirAsia should consider use of Main KLIA for AirAsiaX and Subang for some domestic flights before April 2013

Agree. But preferably domestic AirAsia flights to be temporarily relocated to Main KLIA, since airport tax difference is not huge for domestic flights.

Khaw

November 30th, 2011, 03:08 AM

This has been suggested by most and should have been looked into with more consideration:
If original KLIA needs room --> build 2nd satellite.
If TF hates aerobridges so much --> let him continue using the makeshift warehouse and expand modularly as traffic needs. That way, by then customers will be so pissed off and he will eventually succumb to public pressure.
Public saves so much money --> pour it into other public works project that benefit others who don't want to fly AA or any other project...
A more viable alternative to the whole fiasco --> give a chance to another group who wants to start a new cheapo airline...competition is always good and TF will not act like he is god's gift to the flying public. It's even worse now that he has a stake in MAS.

My 2 sen...

kiko

November 30th, 2011, 03:48 AM

45 million/yr? On top of the 30 million for the original terminal...that many people wants to come to Malaysia? And if so, for what? It's not Paris, London, or even Vegas!

read it somewhere that msia ranked 9th as most visited countries in the world with KL as the main gateway..compare to other countries, they hve lots of gateways..think positive & expect something better with the space increment & etc..:bash:

patchay

November 30th, 2011, 04:12 AM

read it somewhere that msia ranked 9th as most visited countries in the world with KL as the main gateway..compare to other countries, they hve lots of gateways..think positive & expect something better with the space increment & etc..:bash:

Yes, with 24.6 mil tourist arrivals (though a bulk of them come from JB), we may be one of the top 10 most visited country in the world. The international passenger traffic in KLIA is also one of the top 20 highest in the world.

However, Malaysians cannot accept any cost over-runs and any things that has got to do with the Government, as MAHB being a GLC company.

MAHB is doing it for themselves, whereas AA will also do what's best for themselves. End up, we will see a long blickering, a long disunity that will soon pull down KL's ambitious aviation hub plans.

We understand that AA needs fast tunaround time, the essential thing in LCC model, thus explaining the rejection of aerobridges. But more importantly, AA will not want to be subjected to the provisions made by MAHB, I mean who is going to pay for the RM120m aerobridges and what if MAHB hike up the charges again? MAHB has consulted AA on various KLIA2 designs, but this time, they went ahead with Aerobridges without informing AA.

Then again, AA uses aerobridges in most of international airport it lands, including Changi as opposed to using the Singapore Budget Terminal.

You see both sides are equally hypocrite. For now, Tony intelligently uses the excuse of "over-spending by a GLC" as a means of getting public support - which undeniably goes well with me as well.

daeng_jal

November 30th, 2011, 04:20 AM

aritu tgk nat geo.. itu US LCC buat terminal 5 JFK..boleh aje ade aerobridge.

TF in my opinion want U, the passenger to suffer, just like we suffer using minibus long ago

erwinkarim

November 30th, 2011, 04:41 AM

aritu tgk nat geo.. itu US LCC buat terminal 5 JFK..boleh aje ade aerobridge.

TF in my opinion want U, the passenger to suffer, just like we suffer using minibus long ago

i think in the us it's kinda of a requirement because they really care about universal access. in fact, these groups can sue the government for not providing universal access.

plus, walking on the tarmac when it's snowing outside and slippery from ice is dangerous and too uncomfortable.

plus, air asia is not that cheap anymore. looking at tix to londo, it's 3000/pax for airasia, 3500/pax for emirates and 1200/pax for mas. i don't mind paying the extra 500 for a more comfortable terminal, better food, better entertainment system....

daeng_jal

November 30th, 2011, 04:50 AM

no i meant there are way to design the aerobridge to increase efficiencies without sacrificing comfort..the aerobridge are design only for 737 and A320 size which would be perfect for domestic terminal

i guess MAHB HAVE to make a stand insisting the aerobridge, whether TF like it or not..but if he does now, he got a say on what design to use..if not let him be the bad guy of parking right outside the aerobridge..at least the public outrage would be at AK and not be directed to MAHB n the gov..save your own ass lah MAHB..itu pon mau kene ajar ke

Arkdriver

November 30th, 2011, 04:59 AM

TF mana berani buat public survey. Ask people whether they want or dont want the aerobridge. I think it's time now to create FB group for people wanting the use of aerobridge.

World 2 World

November 30th, 2011, 05:09 AM

^^I already suggested. Its a good idea:)

Khaw

November 30th, 2011, 07:38 AM

read it somewhere that msia ranked 9th as most visited countries in the world with KL as the main gateway..compare to other countries, they hve lots of gateways..think positive & expect something better with the space increment & etc..:bash:

9th? Yeah right...mostly from Singapore. That is skewed statistics and you know it! It is hard to think positive when there is almost a 100% cost overrun (yes, read that again) with bad planning and hardly any communication between the squabbling parties involved as to what to include and not include. It will take years and years to get to that 45 million capacity if the deal with qantas does not materialize and BA does not come back. It's wishful thinking until the bird is in the hand. Think about it, TF doesn't even want that size and a 3rd runway and he should know better than any of us here.

hafidz jon

November 30th, 2011, 07:50 AM

9th? Yeah right...mostly from Singapore. That is skewed statistics and you know it! It is hard to think positive when there is almost a 100% cost overrun (yes, read that again) with bad planning and hardly any communication between the squabbling parties involved as to what to include and not include. It will take years and years to get to that 45 million capacity if the deal with qantas does not materialize and BA does not come back. It's wishful thinking until the bird is in the hand. Think about it, TF doesn't even want that size and a 3rd runway and he should know better than any of us here.

even if QF and BA return to KUL, they'll use main terminal. Jetstar also use main terminal. so the only largest tenant will be AK. perhaps Lion Air as recently they bought so many aircraft!:banana::lol:

nazrey

November 30th, 2011, 09:28 AM

New LCCT will be bigger, and with aerobridges
Presenna Nambiar Published: 2011/11/30
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/pba28-2/Article/index_html

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/pba28-2/pix_topright

SEPANG: The new low-cost carrier terminal, expected to be operational by April 2013, will cost Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) between RM3.6 billion and RM3.9 billion, and it will come with aerobridges.

The additional costs, according to Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd managing director Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad, will help house close to double the size of the terminal it had originally provided for, triple the land area it had budgeted for, an air traffic control tower, a longer runway and a fully automated baggage system.

Public infrastructure, which includes a 15km road connecting the terminal to the Kuala Lumpur International Airport Highway, will cost around RM500 million.

Bashir said the delay in construction was due to a combination of a tedious tendering process, and various changes made to the original plans.

The latest change is the decision to put in a fully automated baggage system.

As part of the government's stimulus package announced in 2009, some 42 contractors were awarded jobs from the project.

MAHB had initially budgeted the new terminal, known as KLIA2, at RM2 billion and it was expected to be completed by September this year.

Bashir said the rise in scope of work for KLIA2 was due to additional regulatory, airline, airport and public requirements.

"The viability of the project is intact as proven by the Ratings Agency Malaysia (RAM)'s 'AAA' rating on our debt papers. This is after taking into account the expenditure on the new terminal," Bashir said.

According to MAHB chief financial officer Faizal Mansor, the airport operator is capable of taking on additional debts or equity to fund the project.

MAHB is yet to fully draw down its sukuk programme of RM3.1 billion and has a standing approval to place out 10 per cent of its shares to investors should it want to.

"However, there are no plans for it (private placement) this year as we have about RM500 million from the sukuk programme to draw down," Faizal said.

On MAHB's decision to provide aerobridges after all at the new terminal, Bashir cautioned that it was still the prerogative of the airlines to use them. The aerobridges will require an additional investment of RM100 million by MAHB.

Bashir also said the understanding was that KLIA2 would have the same passenger service charge as the current LCCT.

On AirAsia Bhd's co-founder and chief executive officer Tan Sri Tony Fernandes claims that the airline had been left in the dark on plans for KLIA2, Bashir said its officers held weekly meetings with AirAsia on the development of the new terminal.

rizalhakim

November 30th, 2011, 09:29 AM

alifdalya

November 30th, 2011, 10:20 AM

News on ERL link to KLIA2 :)

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsbusiness.php?id=630830

November 30, 2011 16:48 PM

ERL Expects Better Ridership Next Year

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 30 (Bernama) -- Express Rail Link (ERL), the operator of the high-speed train service between KL Sentral and KL International Airport, is optimistic ridership onboard the KLIA Express and KLIA Transit will improve further next year once the rail link service is extended to the new low-cost carrier terminal (KLIA2).

Executive chairman Datuk Seri Mohd Nadzmi Mohd Salleh said:"We are confident ridership will increase following the completion of the 2.2 kilometer link by October next year."

He said ridership between January and October rose 16 per cent to about 13,095 passengers compared with 11,621 passengers who travelled onboard the trains in the same period last year.

Speaking to reporters after receiving the ISO 9001:2008 certification by Llyod's Register Quality Assurance, on behalf of ERL, Mohd Nadzmi said the link was now 14.2 per cent complete and upon completion, passengers can depart the ERL main terminal from KLIA and arrive at KLIA2 within three minutes.

Meanwhile, he said ERL was the first train operator in Malaysia to be accorded the ISO certification for total customer satisfaction.

"With the certification our customers can be confident that ERL is committed to maintaining the highest standards of effectiveness and responsiveness in achieving our goal," he added.

Mohd Nadzmi also said ERL invested RM1.1 million to undertake several initiatives to improve customers' experience which included enhancement of fare collections system, e-ticketing system and free Wi-Fi connectivity.

He added that the initiatives also included the interior refurbishment of 12 KLIA Express trains scheduled for completion April next year.

-- BERNAMA

alamax

November 30th, 2011, 10:21 AM

bernama.com.my

November 29, 2011 20:57 PM

KLIA2 To Cost Between RM3.6 Billion To RM3.9 Billion

SEPANG, Nov 29 (Bernama) -- The new low-cost terminal (LCCT), KLIA2, with world class facilities to handle about 45 million passengers yearly, is expected to cost between RM3.6 billion and RM3.9 billion and will begin operations in April 2013.

Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) managing director/chief executive officer, Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad, said aerobridges would be installed to cater to the needs of all passengers including the disabled, pregnant women and children.

"We hope the airlines operating here will support our decision by using the aerobridges, as the cost works out to only 25 sen per passenger and the public has indicated they are willing to pay for the use of aerobridges.

"It will be up to the airlines whether or not to use the aerobridges," he told reporters after a tour of the construction site of the KLIA2 complex here Tuesday.

Bashir said work on the 257,000-sq metre KLIA2, which began in October 2009, was now 42 per cent complete and would have 68 gates, more than sufficient to cater to passengers as required by industry standards.

He said a new third runway was being built to cater to aircraft like the A380, the world's largest passenger airplane.

KLIA2 was only 1.5km away from the current main terminal building of KLIA, and a new flyover was being built to link the main road from KLIA to KLIA2, which means KLIA2 would be nearer than LCCT, he said.

On whether there were cost overruns and delay in the operation of the airport, he said, more time was needed to build what was surely be the world's largest purpose-built terminal for low-cost carriers with superior facilities.

"KLIA2 is being built at the lowest cost per passenger with aerobridges and enhanced passenger convenience, including a fully-automated baggage system," he said.

It will have 6,000 covered multi-storey parking, four hotels, transit hotels, a skybridge and a larger commercial space for retail outlets, he said.

The current Express Rail Link (ERL), which runs from KL Sentral to the main terminal at KLIA, will be extended by 2.2km, to link up with KLIA2.

He said MAHB has given AirAsia, the main user of the KLIA2, a special dispensation to build its headquarters with an apron access as well as Tune Hotel.

Bashir said passenger service charges would not be increased but MAHB has the option to discuss them with the government every five years and the next round of discussions could only be held in 2014.

He denied suggestions that public funds were used to construct KLIA2, saying that MAHB had raised funds for this project from the market which included RM3.1 billion, of which RM600 million was still undrawn.

Bashir said MAHB was exploring the possibility of raising capital from the market whereby it has an option to do a private placement of up to 10 per cent without seeking shareholders' nod at the annual general meeting.

On reports saying he might be removed, Bashir said: "How do you want me to respond to the question?"

He also said that in all its dealings with the government, shareholders, stakeholders as well as airlines including AirAsia, MAHB has always been open, transparent and professional.

On complaints by AirAsia chief, Tan Sri Tony Fernandes, that the low-cost carrier was in the dark on the progress of KLIA2, Bashir said, MAHB conducted weekly meetings with all its airline partners where everything was discussed and that there was no reason for them not to know what was going on.

Bashir said that MAHB was in talks with Qantas on the possibility of it resuming operations from KLIA.

He said MAHB conducted open tenders to award projects for the KLIA2.

-- BERNAMA

maafcakap

November 30th, 2011, 11:50 AM

Improved, larger KLIA2 to cost RM3.9b PDF Print
Written by Isabelle Francis
Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:15
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SEPANG: Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) revealed yesterday that the new KLIA2 will now cost 95% more at RM3.6 billion to RM3.9 billion due to significant changes at the terminal, which include the very much debated aerobridges.

MAHB managing director Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad Abdul Majid, however, denied any cost overruns at the project, where the deadline has been further pushed to April 2013 from the first half of next year.

“After discussing with all our stakeholders, airlines and the public, these are the requirements,” said Bashir at a media briefing on the KLIA2 yesterday.

He added that the bulk of the cost swelling stemmed from increased earthworks as a result of the enhanced footprint area of the terminal (RM670 million), bigger terminal building (RM420 million), longer runway at 3.96km from 2.5km initially (RM180 million) and better public infrastructure (RM260 million), among other expenditure.
BIGGER AND BETTER ... Significant changes to the terminal and facilities at KLIA2, including the much discussed aerobridges, will raise the price tag of the new low-cost carrier terminal by 95% to close to RM4 billion.

Interestingly, the incorporation of aerobridges, which was the core of the dispute between AirAsia Bhd and MAHB, cost only RM120 million or just about 7% of the entire cost increase of RM1.6 billion to RM1.9 billion.

Of the cost increase, about RM530 million is for the construction of buildings of government agencies. The improved KLIA2 will also see more aircraft stands, which will incur RM160 million more in costs and upgraded air traffic control facilities, which will see an additional RM130 million in expenditure.

He also said the cost of the KLIA2 meets global standards at some RM4,900 per sq m while the cost per passenger works out to only 25 sen.

Bashir added that the adjustments to the size and design of the KLIA2 came about because MAHB needed to meet the government’s requirement to segregate international and domestic passengers. He said that MAHB had also considered exercising the option to include aerobridges and fully-automated baggage handling system, which were not considered before, as requested by an airline partner.

“We have decided to bring forward the capex. It is better for us to delay by a few months rather than doing them (the changes) later and go through a lot of interruption,” Bashir told newsmen gathered for the briefing yesterday.

He said as a result of tedious tender processes, requirement changes on aerobridges and runway extensions as well as the baggage handling system, the project’s completion has been delayed to the end of next year and the KLIA2 will only be operational ready by April 2013.

“It was only in June that discussions on whether the baggage handling system be fully automated were held… in trying to agree (on the matter), we had weekly discussions with our airline partners.

“The best way to handle 45 million passengers is to have a fully-automated system,” said Bashir, explaining the time line and causes of the delay.

He added that the terminal has been extended by over 71% in terms of space, enough to handle 45 million passengers per annum versus 30 million as initially planned.

He also adressed concerns that a costlier airport does not necessarily mean higher airport taxes for travellers because aeronautical charges are highly regulated. Based on the current numbers, Bashir said, it should be no problem for KLIA2 to break even within its first few years of operations.

The aeronautical charges have also been a reason for dispute between AirAsia and MAHB for awhile now.

The Transport Ministry recently approved a RM14 increase in airport tax to RM65 per passenger in most of its international airports while the LCCT in KLIA and the Terminal 2 in Kota Kinabalu saw charges go up by RM7 to RM32 per international passenger.

Landing and parking charges, meanwhile, will rise in three stages over three years — landing charges will be 9% while parking charges will be increased by 18% per year. This is the first increase in charges after 17 years.

“We are not allowed to go back to the government (for an increase) until 2014. It is my understanding that whatever charges at the current LCCT applies at KLIA2,” Bashir added.

This article appeared in The Edge Financial Daily, November 30, 2011.

CxIxMaN

November 30th, 2011, 02:42 PM

A bigger-than-planned, more efficient low-cost terminal

By B.K. SIDHU
bksidhu@thestar.com.my

30 November 2011
PETALING JAYA: The new low-cost air terminal, or KLIA2, that is taking shape next to KLIA will nearly doubled its original size and will cost nearly twice its initial costing of RM2bil to between RM3.6bil and RM3.9bil.:nuts:

The increase in the size and cost will cater to 45 million passengers and is being built by Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB).

MAHB managing director Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad said it was slated for commercial operations in April 2013.

Speaking to the media yesterday, Bashir said the new airport was 40% complete, would have a 4km runway instead of the earlier planned 2.5km, a fully-automated baggage system, a new air control tower, 68 gates and eight remote stands.

The original size of the two-storey terminal building was 150,000 sq m but to cater to government requirement to segregate domestic and international passengers, it has been upgraded to nine storeys on a 257,000 sq m site.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2011/11/30/business/p1-kliacht.JPG

It will have the most modern facilities and amenities to cater to future growth.

Base on the original design the airport could only cater to 30 million passengers.

Bashir also announced that the airport would have aerobridges and it was up to the airlines to use them. This is a decision the majority of the travelling public has been waiting for but AirAsia boss Tan Sri Tony Fernandes poured cold water on it by saying yesterday that “we will not use the aerobridges.”

MAHB has come under fire over allegations of cost over-runs and delivery dates but Bashir said that “KLIA is built as a national infrastructure asset to cater to the needs of airlines, Government, public and the airport.

As a result of these requirements, KLIA2 has been significantly upgraded with superior facilities compared with the original design.”

Bashir added therefore the issue of cost over-runs did not arise.

He cited the runway and baggage system as a case of requests made by airlines and to meet that meant additional investment and time taken to expand the runway. It is also increasing commercial space by 50,000 sq m.

“The longer runaway allows airlines to cruise longer and use less fuel,'' he told a packed room of reporters who were earlier taken for a tour of the KLIA2 construction site.

Similarly, the adding of a fully-automated baggage system had also pushed the timeline to 2013 from October 2012 and the request, he said, “only came in June this year.”

For that the terminal building needs to be hacked and that involves the size of a “football field.”

Commenting on the higher cost of the new airport, Bashir said “when you increase the scope by so much, certainly cost will be incurred. We are building a better place and it will be the icon for low-cost travel in the world.''

He added that it was not uncommon to change the design when construction was ongoing.

Bashir also denied the notion that the higher cost to build a bigger airport would result in higher passenger service charges (PSC) for KLIA. He said it would remain the same as the current low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT). The fees were regulated by the Government and the next review was only in 2014. The Government allowed MAHB to raise the PSC recently and a RM7 increase for LCCT to RM32 was obtained after a nine-year request.

Contrary to suggestions that public money is used to build KLIA, Bashir said MAHB was funding the project.

“We are even paying the Government to build the public infrastructure and air control tower costing RM530mil,” he said.

MAHB, which has a AAA rating from RAM Ratings, has only drawn down RM2.5bil from the RM3.1bil raised from the sukuk it issued.

“We have several options in terms of raising additional funds including internal funds, debt and going to the equity markets,'' chief financial officer Faizal Mansor said when asked how MAHB will source for more funds to complete the job. Bashir expects MAHB to break even almost immediately when KLIA2 opens for commercial operations.

He said MAHB had also completed earthworks for “AirAsia to have its building with apron access and this is a special dispensation. It would also have its own parking facilities and Tune Hotel. We have tried as much as possible to meet the requirements of our partners. We have also been very professional with our partners.”

The entire project has 42 contractors. Asked why the need for so many, Bashir said it was part of the stimulus package. The airport will have a Express Rail Link with the potential to be connected to KTM in the future

Asked to comment on a report that he would be replaced, Bashir said: “How would you like me to answer that?”

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/11/30/business/10002077&sec=business

If this is going to be almost as big if not bigger than KLIA then what is the point of building it??? Might as well have built the second satellite terminal and put AirAsia in there...:bash:

davidwsk

November 30th, 2011, 04:25 PM

Cost over-run yeah. but the big contractors and big directors will be rewarded..

What cold water. allegations ... are really just another episode of Drama ...yeah...at the end, peoples are gonna pay for the charges to cover that cost...of RM 5 billions at the end...

nazrey

November 30th, 2011, 04:26 PM

davidwsk

November 30th, 2011, 04:42 PM

Airport tax hike for AirAsia international flights from Dec 1

30 November 2011

KUALA LUMPUR: AirAsia Bhd announced today that the passenger service charge (PSC) or commonly known as the airport tax, will come into force for all its international flights from Dec 1.
All tickets purchased from tomorrow would include the new airport tax of RM65 per person, up from the RM51 for flights from Langkawi, Penang and Kuching international airports, said AirAsia in a statement today.

For Kota Kinabalu International Airport (Terminal 2) and the Low Cost Carrier Terminal (LCCT) KLIA, the new charge is RM32, up from RM25 previously.

AirAsia said it collects the PSC on behalf of Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) and thus, guests can send enquiries regarding the revised airport tax, directly to the chief executive officer of MAHB at bashir@malaysiaairports.com.my or via its online feedback form available at www.malaysiaairports.com.my/index.php/contact-us/284. -- BERNAMA

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/airport-tax-hike-for-airasia-international-flights-from-dec-1-1.12910#ixzz1fCjCgj7M

davidwsk

November 30th, 2011, 04:46 PM

Better read from the USA news...Malaysia news censor too much

Malaysia says cost of new budget airport to double to $1.2 billion, AirAsia slams overspending

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Malaysia’s airport operator said the cost of a new airport for budget carriers has nearly doubled to 3.9 billion ringgit ($1.2 billion), and will open nearly a year later than planned.

Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad said plans for the airport have now been “significantly upgraded with superior facilities” including aerobridges and an automated baggage system. The airport will be able to accommodate 45 million passengers annually, up from 30 million previously, it said.

The greater expense was criticized by AirAsia — the main user of the terminal. Its chief executive Tony Fernandes said Wednesday that amenities such as aerobridges were a waste of money and would not be used by his airline. He also expressed doubt that annual passengers could hit 45 million.

Malaysia Airports defended its decision to install aerobridges to assist the sick, elderly and young children, saying the additional cost was negligible at 0.25 ringgit (8 cents) per passenger. Due to the changes, the “KLIA 2” airport is expected to open only in April 2013, instead of mid-2012, it said.

Fernandes, who is traveling in the U.S., slammed Malaysia Airports for overspending amid the current global economic uncertainty. Singapore’s budget terminal has no aerobridges, he said.

“We won’t use them,” he responded on Twitter. “American Airlines just gone into bankruptcy. And Malaysia Airports spends 3.9 billion ringgit. I am sure that’s not the final figure.”

AirAsia, the region’s largest no-frills airline by fleet size, has said a bigger terminal is crucial to its survival with passengers expected to reach 30 million and its fleet to grow to 184 planes by 2013. The existing budget airport can only accommodate 15 million people and has insufficient airplane parking bays.

In 2009, AirAsia proposed to build and operate a 1.6 billion ringgit ($504 million) budget airport in a southern state but the government rejected the plan amid concerns it may undermine the country’s international airport. It subsequently unveiled plans for KLIA 2, located just two kilometers west of the main airport.

Malaysia hopes the new budget airport will bolster the country’s international airport as a significant air hub in the region rivaling Singapore’s Changi Airport and Thailand’s Suvarnabhumi Airport.

Malaysia’s international airport, with annual passengers of around 17 million and capacity of 25 million is relatively small compared with regional rivals. Changi’s three main terminals and one budget terminal have a combined capacity of nearly 69 million passengers. Actual passenger numbers are around 42 million a year, similar to Suvarnabhumi, which opened in late 2006.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/industries/malaysia-says-cost-of-new-budget-airport-to-double-to-12-billion-airasia-slams-overspending/2011/11/30/gIQAFcTMBO_story.html

patchay

November 30th, 2011, 05:57 PM

^^ Guys, got an invitation from MAHB via their appointed PR agency... where they will be doing a preview of KLIA2 tomorrow evening in a Restaurant (yes inclusive of Free Dinner, perhaps charged to taxpayers money :lol:) for invited guests and bloggers. I think the preview is about KLIA2 Retail and yeahh!! stay tuned for updates...

Recap for those who missed out the news:

KLIA2 upgraded to serve 45 million passengers, mainly from ASEAN

When completed in April 2013, it is expected to be one of the largest passenger terminal in the world with capacity breaching 45 million. Dubai Terminal 3 has 43 million and the whole of Singapore Changi has 70 million compared to the whole of KLIA which would come close to 80 million.

KLIA2, the new Mega Low-Cost Terminal will also host:
- a 3.96km of runway enough to serve an Airbus A380,
- a new advanced air traffic control tower,
- a total of 80 aerobridges in 68 gates and 8 remote stands,
- Asia's first airport skybridge,
- Asia's first lifestyle-themed airport,
- premium lounges,
- fully automated baggage system for Low-Cost Carrier Terminal,
- the world's largest airport shopping mall including airport departmental stores,
- a multi-modal transportation hub that will also include the ERL High Speed Train link,
- four hotels including the budget Tune Hotel, and
- a new headquarter complex for AirAsia Bhd.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/messyhelmie/b36dc914.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii180/messyhelmie/c9592896.jpg

Asia's first skybridge in the airport

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fEMsesiw6vI/TmxQPj7eHPI/AAAAAAAAGvM/3dX_hAcL60A/s1600/klia2-skybridge.jpg

PlanetNova

November 30th, 2011, 05:59 PM

funny if air asia doesnt want to use the aerobridges. Others will and they will be forced to follow eventually. Hopefully more budget airlines will fly to this terminal. I hope there are reasonable and convenient budget transit hotels attached to it to attract more overnight transit passengers. Hopefully more user friendly and lifestyle facilities at this terminal.

Soon the old KLIA will need major refurbishment since the new budget terminal seems better in terms of everything.

bukhrin

November 30th, 2011, 07:41 PM

Ha ha, soon the new airport will have a higher pax count than KLIA. Is that possible ?

triple-j

November 30th, 2011, 08:40 PM

A bigger-than-planned, more efficient low-cost terminal
By B.K. SIDHU
bksidhu@thestar.com.my

...The original size of the two-storey terminal building was 150,000 sq m but to cater to government requirement to segregate domestic and international passengers, it has been upgraded to nine storeys on a 257,000 sq m site.

If this is going to be almost as big if not bigger than KLIA then what is the point of building it??? Might as well have built the second satellite terminal and put AirAsia in there...:bash:

9 storeys?!!!

KLIA2 upgraded to serve 45 million passengers, mainly from ASEAN

When completed in April 2013, it is expected to be one of the largest passenger terminal in the world with capacity breaching 45 million. Dubai Terminal 3 has 43 million and the whole of Singapore Changi has 70 million compared to the whole of KLIA which would come close to 80 million.

I hope it won't be a as quiet or as lonely, but I do trust AA and AAx to expand even further now this airport can cater up to that number of pax despite without using any aerobridges :cheers:

This could be optimistic and obviously baseless but who knows that Qantas deal of a new airline could be based here...:nuts:

funny if air asia doesnt want to use the aerobridges. Others will and they will be forced to follow eventually. Hopefully more budget airlines will fly to this terminal. I hope there are reasonable and convenient budget transit hotels attached to it to attract more overnight transit passengers. Hopefully more user friendly and lifestyle facilities at this terminal.

Soon the old KLIA will need major refurbishment since the new budget terminal seems better in terms of everything.

I'm for one, relieved that the aerobridges will be built. Especially now with that massive increase of cost, it would be even more ridiculous not to have them.

I hope that maintenance and improvement of old KLIA will still be on their radar since in less than 2 years they will have new darling baby...

Khaw

December 1st, 2011, 12:52 AM

patchay

December 1st, 2011, 01:49 AM

From Washington Post:
Malaysia's international airport, with annual passengers of around 17 million and capacity of 25 million is relatively small compared with regional rivals. Changi's three main terminals and one budget terminal have a combined capacity of nearly 69 million passengers. Actual passenger numbers are around 42 million a year, similar to Suvarnabhumi, which opened in late 2006.

The 17 million is for non-LCCT traffic, I assume. Otherwise, embarrassingly low compared to our neighbors.

Judging from that news report, we can say it is a statistics for KLIA Main Terminal only as its capacity is 5 million at Main Terminal & Contact Pier + 20 million at Satellite Terminal 1 = 25 million for KLIA excluding LCCT, which adds another 15 to 20 million (after renovation), totalling at least 40 million for KLIA (whole airport). A better KLIA2 soon will have 45 million adds up to 25 million at KLIA = 70 million total.

Under IATA laws, fortunately, LCCT is computed as part of KLIA.

Passenger numbers total 34,087,636 in 2010 (some sources quoted it at 35.2 million).

Out of this 23,402,000 (15,087,900 till Aug) are international passengers making it the 14th busiest airport in the world by international passenger traffic.

The growth rate is quite impressive ever since we had AirAsia.

You can see comparions here >>> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=85156864&postcount=145

haikalcool2u

December 1st, 2011, 02:49 AM

Goodnews....they will build the aeorbridge based on today newspaper....start operation in April 2013

:banana::banana::banana:wooho!!!!!!!!!

Khaw

December 1st, 2011, 04:16 AM

Judging from that news report, we can say it is a statistics for KLIA Main Terminal only as its capacity is 5 million at Main Terminal & Contact Pier + 20 million at Satellite Terminal 1 = 25 million for KLIA excluding LCCT, which adds another 15 to 20 million (after renovation), totalling at least 40 million for KLIA (whole airport). A better KLIA2 soon will have 45 million adds up to 25 million at KLIA = 70 million total.

Under IATA laws, fortunately, LCCT is computed as part of KLIA.

Passenger numbers total 34,087,636 in 2010 (some sources quoted it at 35.2 million).

Out of this 23,402,000 (15,087,900 till Aug) are international passengers making it the 14th busiest airport in the world by international passenger traffic.

The growth rate is quite impressive ever since we had AirAsia.

You can see comparions here >>> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=85156864&postcount=145

Kinda knew it is in the low to mid 30 million range. Just confirming anyway...thanks for the breakdown of the figures.

Arkdriver

December 1st, 2011, 07:40 AM

I want the airport to be build and completed please.

I think 45 million is justified. Just look at AirAsia's growth.

I dont understand this fat bangla. Current LCCT he called it airconditioned horse stable. When MAHB is going to build a new and nice one for him he said doesnt want aerobridge la, afraid increase in PSC la, BLA BLA BLA.

He's asking for papa to build a new house for him with 3 rooms but complained when papa choose to build 4 and a half rooms instead.

He will never get enough

Come on fatty, stop the drama.

Dont fucking complain about the PSC when you still owe the MAHB RM200 million in uncollected PSC.

If i were MAHB i would be happy to install counters and vending machine churning tickets for PSC so i dont need airline to do that on my behalf.

MAHB pun baghal bebal, always succumb to pressure of fat bangla. I hate them for being so obedient and quiet about the issue. Maybe TF have some of the GLC and government officials on his dark payroll? This is what happened when out society rot the core because of bribery.

Cost overrun. What else is new huh. I'm all for the new terminal. Better build now but please put transparency first. Without transparency there will be cost overrun. Cost overrun wont happen if tender process was closely monitored by independent groups. Seeing things being run in Malaysia, it just didn't happen.

When MRT completed i'm sure it will cost additional 10 billion ringgit.

nazrey

December 1st, 2011, 09:08 AM

ERL sees ridership boost next year
Published: 2011/11/30
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20111130214437/Article/index_html

Express Rail Link (ERL), the operator of the high-speed train service between KL Sentral and KL International Airport, is optimistic ridership on board the KLIA Express and KLIA Transit will improve further next year once the rail link service is extended to the new low-cost carrier terminal (KLIA2).

Executive chairman Datuk Seri Mohd Nadzmi Mohd Salleh said:"We are confident ridership will increase following the completion of the 2.2 kilometer link by October next year."

He said ridership between January and October rose 16 per cent to about 13,095 passengers compared with 11,621 passengers who travelled onboard the trains in the same period last year.

Speaking to reporters after receiving the ISO 9001:2008 certification by Llyod's Register Quality Assurance, on behalf of ERL, Mohd Nadzmi said the link was now 14.2 per cent complete and upon completion, passengers can depart the ERL main terminal from KLIA and arrive at KLIA2 within three minutes. - Bernama
ERL on track to complete new link, woo more users
Published: 2011/12/01
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/erlride30/Article/#ixzz1fMYRungG

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/erlride30/pix_middle

EXPRESS Rail Link Sdn Bhd (ERL) expects better passenger growth after the completion of the 2.2km extension track linking the Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) and the new low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT) by October next year.

In the first 10 months of this year, ERL carried 13,095 passengers, an increase of 16 per cent from 11,261 in the same period last year.

ERL executive chairman Datuk Seri Mohd Nadzmi Mohd Salleh is confident that the KLIA Express and KLIA Transit ridership will improve further once the rail link service is completed. "The link is now 14.2 per cent complete."

Nadzmi, speaking to reporters after the ISO certification ceremony, said the ride between the ERL station at KLIA and KLIA2 will take three minutes.

The company has invested RM1.1 million to undertake several initiatives to improve customers' experience, which included enhancement of fare collections system, e-ticketing system and free Wi-Fi connectivity.

"The initiatives also included the interior refurbishment of 12 KLIA Express trains, scheduled for completion in April next year," he said.

Yesterday, ERL was officially presented the ISO 9001:2008 certification for the scope provision of rail services between KLIA and KL Sentral by the awarding body Lloyd's Register Quality Assurance.

In his speech earlier, Nadzmi said with the certification, customers are assured that ERL is committed to maintain the highest standards of effectiveness and responsiveness in achieving the company's goal.

ERL is the first train operator in Malaysia to be accorded the ISO certification for total customer satisfaction. Also present was ERL chief executive officer Noormah Mohd Noor.

CxIxMaN

December 1st, 2011, 10:55 AM

Just hope this Mega LCCT will not kill KLIA MTB...

nideru_90

December 1st, 2011, 11:35 AM

ERL on track to complete new link, woo more users
Published: 2011/12/01
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/erlride30/Article/#ixzz1fMYRungG

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/erlride30/pix_middle

EXPRESS Rail Link Sdn Bhd (ERL) expects better passenger growth after the completion of the 2.2km extension track linking the Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) and the new low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT) by October next year.

In the first 10 months of this year, ERL carried 13,095 passengers, an increase of 16 per cent from 11,261 in the same period last year.

ERL executive chairman Datuk Seri Mohd Nadzmi Mohd Salleh is confident that the KLIA Express and KLIA Transit ridership will improve further once the rail link service is completed. "The link is now 14.2 per cent complete."

Nadzmi, speaking to reporters after the ISO certification ceremony, said the ride between the ERL station at KLIA and KLIA2 will take three minutes.

The company has invested RM1.1 million to undertake several initiatives to improve customers' experience, which included enhancement of fare collections system, e-ticketing system and free Wi-Fi connectivity.

"The initiatives also included the interior refurbishment of 12 KLIA Express trains, scheduled for completion in April next year," he said.

Yesterday, ERL was officially presented the ISO 9001:2008 certification for the scope provision of rail services between KLIA and KL Sentral by the awarding body Lloyd's Register Quality Assurance.

In his speech earlier, Nadzmi said with the certification, customers are assured that ERL is committed to maintain the highest standards of effectiveness and responsiveness in achieving the company's goal.

ERL is the first train operator in Malaysia to be accorded the ISO certification for total customer satisfaction. Also present was ERL chief executive officer Noormah Mohd Noor.

^^ist that the new interior of klia express?

maafcakap

December 1st, 2011, 11:37 AM

For MAHB, new low-cost carrier terminal is a calculated risk

Making a Point - By Jagdev Singh Sidhu

SOMETIMES, the market should trust what a company is doing. The case in point is CIMB Group Holdings Bhd when it acquired PT Bank Niaga in Indonesia. The deal was first panned by investment analysts but as it turned out, it was one of the best deals done by the CIMB Group.

Hindsight is always twenty-twenty as opinions are framed at the point of a deal. The same can be said of Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) when it revealed that the cost to build KLIA2, the new dedicated low-cost terminal, was anything but that. Cost has ballooned from an original estimate of RM2bil to between RM3.6bil and RM3.9bil.

The company justified that by saying the scope of the airport was far larger than planned. The floor space is up 71%, the aircraft stand is 61% larger, the runaway has 65% more tarmac space and the public infrastructure is up to 260% more extensive. It will have a fully automated baggage-handling system and most of the bells and whistles a major airport will provide.

KLIA2 will set the new standard for low-cost terminals. It's more swanky than a glorified warehouse the current building is and the larger, roomier building will not make people, of which there are more middle-income travellers taking cheaper flights, wonder if they should have put up with a terminal that has an ambience of a football stadium.

An artist’s impression of KLIA2. Works on the terminal, which is located next to KL International Airport, has reached 40% to completion. — Bernama

And yes, the controversial aerobridges will be built for those airlines that want to use them.

The final cost can be seen as a major savings from the estimated RM10bil MAHB would have had to spend had it built the second wing for KL International Airport (KLIA).

So by building a high-cost, low-cost terminal, MAHB might in a way defray the need to spend so much more just to cater for more inbound travellers.

The low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT), which can handle 15 million passengers, will see many more people pass through its doors. There is a need for expansion but the question remains as to why the new terminal has 50% more capacity than its original plan, 300% more than the current capacity of LCCT and 180% more than the main terminal of KLIA?

The crux of the issue is why build so much capacity ahead of demand? Is it a wise and prudent move?

Analysts don't think so. Many are worried about under-utilisation of capacity when the airport opens and with the higher cost and depreciation, that will whack the bottomline of MAHB. They are also worried about the potential issuance of new shares that will dilute earnings even more to fund the expansion.

They have a right to be concerned as their recommendations are based on their clients' interest first.

But for MAHB, the airline operator sees things differently. It feels that by front loading its capital expenditure (capex), it will be able to avoid an additional RM750mil-plus in cost by bringing forward RM700mil in capex.

The bigger floor space with five times the commercial space of the main terminal will lower unit costs and bring in more revenue. It will offset the cost from revenue it gets from the Government over the years of the concession in the form of rental income or tax breaks. It also feels that the dynamics of the bigger terminal will see an internal rate of return that is equal the original cost of the terminal.

The new airport will be built during a time when MAHB is expecting a big increase in air travel. It knows just what the airlines that use its airports are expecting in terms of passenger growth and feels that once a critical mass is reached, more airlines will divert flights to Kuala Lumpur to grab passengers.

MAHB has said that capacity utilisation of the airport will be about 50% when it opens in 2013 but will gradually rise and reach 45 million by 2020-2022. Passenger travel might grow faster than gross domestic product but some analysts don't agree with that assumption as it is hard to fathom how a low-cost airport can see a near three-fold increase in travellers in just about a decade.

Right now, its a case of wait and see. There is no guarantee that plans and projections will materialise but like any business, expansion decisions are made by what the company thinks is going to happen in the future. It's a calculated risk and if they prove detractors wrong, then no one will really complain. If they don't, then the additional cost will be a huge price to pay.

maafcakap

December 1st, 2011, 11:39 AM

Analysts downgrade MAHB as cash levels may be affected by higher costs of KLIA2

By EUGENE MAHALINGAM
eugenicz@thestar.com.my

PETALING JAYA: Analysts have downgraded Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) due to the higher costs that will be incurred by the company for the construction of KLIA2, the new low-cost air terminal taking shape next to KL International Airport.

HwangDBS Vickers Research has downgraded the stock to “hold” with a target price of RM6.70 from RM8.10 previously.

“Our target price is reduced to RM6.70 as we factor in the higher investments for KLIA2. We believe that MAHB's cash levels will be stretched following the hike in costs for the new terminal and factor in a cash call.

“We also cut MAHB's dividend payout policy to 40% in view of the need to preserve cash levels,” it said in a report yesterday.

An artist’s impression of KLIA2. Works on the terminal, which is located next to KL International Airport, has reached 40% to completion. — Bernama

The research house also said it was cutting MAHB's earnings estimate for the company's financial year 2012 and 2013 (FY12 and FY13).

“With the higher investment, we may see higher depreciation cost than initially expected during the early years. In our opinion, additional revenue to cover the higher capital cost may take time to kick in as passengers gradually increase. This will result in lower utilisation in the initial years.

“We have cut earnings forecasts for FY12 to FY13 by 3% to 17% in view of higher depreciation costs. This will be partially offset by the larger retail space and potential additional revenue of circa RM40mil per year due to rental of airport control tower to the Government.”

MAHB revealed on Tuesday that KLIA2 will nearly double its original size and will cost nearly twice its initial costing of RM2bil to between RM3.6bil and RM3.9bil. The increase in size and cost will cater to 45 million passengers.

The original size of the two-storey terminal building was 150,000 sq m but to cater to Government requirement to segregate domestic and international passengers, it has been upgraded to nine storeys on a 257,000 sq m site.

According to MAHB managing director Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad, the new airport is 40% complete and slated for commercial operations in April 2013.

Meanwhile, CIMB Research in its report downgraded the stock to “neutral” from “outperform” to account for the company's higher capital expenditure, operating expenditure and an increase in weighted average cost of capital.

“Despite incorporating the increase in passenger service charge as well as the landing and parking fees, we are looking at a 30% dip in core earnings once KLIA2 commence operations in 2013 due to higher operating costs.

“Even though it will not be fully utilised, it does not seem that major parts of the new airport will be closed off as airlines will park their planes at every available gate for faster turnaround time,” it said.

CIMB said this was “very detrimental” to MAHB's profitability as the increased number of gates and airport space would result in a huge rise in staff count, maintenance and repair costs, utilities and other miscellaneous costs.

“This is a major factor in our earnings downgrade. We have downgraded our core earnings per share estimates by 12.5% in 2013, 7% in 2014 and 1% to 2% from 2015 to 2018.

“Investors should stay on the sidelines for now. The positive impact of recent tariff hikes will be undermined by the increase in depreciation and operational expenses. The delay in KLIA2 and the potential equity placement are likely to overhang the stock,” it said.

Despite the downgrades, investor sentiment in the stock was not extinguished as MAHB closed 10 sen higher to RM6.19.

CoolFellas

December 1st, 2011, 05:01 PM

wow....:nuts::nuts:
AirAsia will not use aerobridges at new low-cost terminal
By B.K. SIDHU
bksidhu@thestar.com.my

PETALING JAYA: AirAsia boss Tan Sri Tony Fernandes said the airline will not use aerobridges at KLIA2 even though airport operator Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) will build them for the new low-cost air terminal.

“We will not use them. For 10 years we have run the airline and build it from nothing. We have carried 130 million people and our biggest hub is in Kuala Lumpur where we have not used aerobridges.

“We are confused why they want to spend so much when the client does not want them.:bash::bash: What kind of control is there when there is a global economic outlook issue,” Fernandes told StarBiz yesterday.

He said that even Singapore Budget Terminal did not have aerobridges and the Singapore authorities had no intention of building them.

“I am deeply disappointed with the decision and shocked to hear that KLIA2 can now cater for 45 million passengers when only last week it was 30 million. Where is the 15 million going to be (housed) when there is no floor space?

“At 45 million, the airport appears to be bigger than Dubai airport,” he said.

He added that “MAHB cannot make excuses for cost overruns. MAHB must be made accountable. My worst fear has been confirmed.”

He also twitted about the RM3.9bil figure, saying that “I am sure that is not the final figure”.:nuts::nuts:

I'm one of the many that strongly support for new LCCT to have aerobridges from the day one. I don't really understand why TF still stick with his principle not to use aerobridges. I'm pretty sure eventually he will nod to the demand of its passengers that want to use aerobridges. Maybe it can be started with Air Asia X as new LCCT will be a new gateway for the international passengers/tourists. Even most of AAX destinations they have to admit with the airport authorities for them to use areobridges e.g London Gatwick Airport. Its understandable not to use aerobridges at other domestic airports but not for international airports. Mister Tony please think about elderly passengers, preggies, etc please....its not all about RM and sen!

patchay

December 1st, 2011, 05:51 PM

Patchay is a friend of Azran, boss of AirAsia X and a supporter of Tony Fernandes' entrepreneurship.

With the recent blickering, today, Patchay finds out the story from the other side - from MAHB.

Patchay & Social Media Youth's Dinner with MAHB Senior Mgmt Team

Highlights:

- This is the first time MAHB has engaged youth social media and bloggers. Tan Sri Bashir and Dato Azmi came with his team of senior management to have dinner presentation.

- The term "Low Cost Terminal" is very blur today. Today the airlines have wide-bodied aircraft thus space utilization is different, fly long-haul thus have international and transit passengers, fly with optional premium facilities, etc etc.

- KLIA2 was planned to be passenger comfort, for the interest of passengers, NOT for the comfort of airlines as opposed to current LCCT.

- KLIA2 heavily incorporates COMMERCIAL RETAIL TOURISM & ENTERTAINMENT element. Before this KLIA only had barely 5% for commercial retail.

- KLIA2 is targeting passengers of the age bracket between 20-35 who travels "very" frequently. Currently those who passes thru LCCT: 67% within 22-44 yr old. 43% white collar. Travel avg every 2 months. Avg 2 hrs spent in airport.

- KLIA2 undergo a major revamp in New Expansion Plan > Explaining the cost increment, especially passengers will now be seggregated between departing and arriving, and domestic and arrivals, and to meet new requirements of Civil Aviation such as backup control tower and baggage system. Third runway was brought forward as per KLIA Masterplan. The airport will aim for LEED certification (green). More details later.

- An internal AEROTRAIN will be built 5-6 years down the road once Satellite Terminal B starts. Provision for KTMB from Seremban.

- KLIA2 will retain viability rating of "AAA" (by RAM) and with the cost increment it still has the lowest construction cost per passenger (by international dollars) in the world.

- KLIA2 will have the cheapest parking rates (calculated over one day) in the world... but only for aircraft, not for cars.

- MAHB has compromised AA many times, including giving subsidies and charged a lower price for AA as compared to other airlines, letting space inside the airport for AA's office, maintaining low-cost airport charges over a decade, spent alot of money upgrading current LCCT twice, etc.

- The increase in Passengers Taxes are justified and has no prove that it will increase its client's cost structure. All passengers will be affected regardless of airlines and these taxes/charges go to improving KLIA, LCCT and KLIA2. Its client will still pay one of the lowest landing and parking charges in this region, and the lower the charges, the less contribution to Malaysia's GDP.

- Putting posters on landlord's buildings without prior permission is illegal. :lol: :lol:

Skyprince

December 2nd, 2011, 03:33 AM

As a "very " frequent traveller out of LCCT for almost every 1 month, I must say that quality of facility in LCCT has improved alot. All toilets inside LCCT have improved in cleanliness, and there is now even "washlet/bidet" -water can be piped out from the bowl. Choice of shops/restaurants inside LCCT has varied alot recently. There are even many chairs for sleeping, especially for transit AirAsia passengers staying overnight.

Main KLIA is needless to say- the toilets ( within MTB ) are SUPER clean, very luxuriously designed ( feels like a 5-star hotel , not an airport at all ) , and now we can walk through the jungle if departing/transiting via Satellite terminal.

For me the slight raise in airport fee is justified.

choon

December 2nd, 2011, 04:49 AM

patchay

December 2nd, 2011, 04:58 AM

Watch this space tonight...

More names are coming... but I heard KLIA2 tried to nego with Hamley's London for its first toy store in Southeast Asia... but somehow abit slow as they have not ventured into smaller Asian markets (you know the toys are mahal giler..)

We think that chocolate (maybe Hershey's), toys (maybe Hamley's), IT/electronics, apparels and fragrances/cosmetics, sporting goods, etc will do very well in KLIA2. I also suggested a niche departmental store + supermarket for the KLIA2 airport and even a cinema for those long-hours transit passengers.

Will post more pics on the SUPERB concept in the LCCT thread tonight...

dulu ada kaunter jual perfumes & make up...i think dey moved to a bigger place
http://www.moodiereport.com/images2/victorias_secret_KLIA_dec11.jpg

Was at the KLIA2 presentation yesterday... we were spelling out H&M for KLIA2 Retail to the Commercial Manager...

But the most shocking one ---> VICTORIA'S SECRET has opened its first Malaysian store in KLIA, taking over same spot from mango MNG

nazrey

December 2nd, 2011, 06:11 AM

http://www.binapuri.com.my/Projects/Current/Building/klia2/3.jpg
http://www.binapuri.com.my/Projects/Current/Building/klia2/3.jpg

dengilo

December 2nd, 2011, 08:26 AM

http://www.moodiereport.com/images2/victorias_secret_KLIA_dec11.jpg
Whats the big deal here!I am glad they here at least i know where to go looking for those kinky stuff:banana:

rizalhakim

December 2nd, 2011, 08:43 AM

AirAsia vs MAHB
its a war lol.....

AirAsia: Stop harassing our staff
By WONG PEK MEI
pekmei@thestar.com.my

PETALING JAYA: AirAsia has issued an official warning letter to Malaysia Airports Holding Berhad (MAHB) for allegedly harassing its staff.

The company’s commercial director Jasmine Lee claimed MAHB had told airline staff to remove the “Say No to Airport Tax Increase” stickers on their uniform. She claimed that the airport operator also removed posters at their sales counters at LCCT.

“They even went to the check-in counters and told our staff not to wear the stickers and to stop sticking them on passengers’ boarding passes.

“We have sent an official warning letter to request that MAHB’s officers stop unlawfully obstructing our staff from doing their jobs,” she said, adding that the incident occurred from around 10am until lunchtime yesterday.

AirAsia is protesting against the decision by MAHB to increase the airport tax by RM7 and RM14 at five airports nationwide which took effect yesterday.

The airports are Langkawi International Airport, Penang International Airport, Kuching International Airport, Terminal 2, Kota Kinabalu International Air*port and the low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT) at KLIA.

Lee also alleged that MAHB confiscated security tags from some staff working in restricted areas.

“This incident will not deter us. We will continue to wear the stickers tomorrow and will put back the posters,” she said.

AirAsia CEO Tan Sri Tony Fernandes later tweeted: “Malay*sian airport staff tearing down our posters and taking away airport passes of our staff. And using intimidation. Can someone tell them this is Malaysia and not a police state.”

MAHB senior general manager for operations Datuk Azmi Murad, who was present during the incident, denied any harassment or intimidation took place but admitted they removed the posters.

“They were putting the posters in public areas and we took them down. Imagine if anyone could just walk in and start putting posters everywhere,” he said.

AirAsia has taken a full-page advertisement in The Star, urging the public to call MAHB and give their opinion on the increase in airport tax.

“AirAsia views this increase as not justified as the current airport facilities are not up to par,” said the advertisement.

CoolFellas

December 2nd, 2011, 10:39 AM

AirAsia vs MAHB
its a war lol.....

.

“They were putting the posters in public areas and we took them down. Imagine if anyone could just walk in and start putting posters everywhere,” he said.

AirAsia has taken a full-page advertisement in The Star, urging the public to call MAHB and give their opinion on the increase in airport tax.

“AirAsia views this increase as not justified as the current airport facilities are not up to par,” said the advertisement.

In this matter, I support MAHB. I think even the rakyat can think twice if AA act like 'taiko' and such many complaints against MAHB. Of course there are still loopholes and MAHB is not perfect, but they've already facilitated AA since the day one of its operation. Sometimes it such a drama ploy by AA as example not long a go AA said (threatened) they going to move their operation to Indonesia, then afterwards TF denied the allegation. It such like a tantrum child..when the parents don't want to give what they want they will screaming, shouting, moaning and crying. But whenever the parents giving more what they needed, they will say its too much and that not what they wanted e.g. the expansion of new LCCT2 and aerobridge. Haiyahh..:nuts:

In case of the airport tax, Malaysian airports charge amongst the lowest, and yes, the passengers will be burdening with the extra cost, and this will the best reason for AA not to use aerobridges at the new LCCT2.:lol: AA shouldn't involved the public directly with the campaign as it seems unprofessional for the company. It should come from the public and not the company itself. Its a very bad strategy and can be a backlash to the company. :ohno:

Skyprince

December 2nd, 2011, 02:13 PM

In case of the airport tax, Malaysian airports charge amongst the lowest, and yes, the passengers will be burdening with the extra cost, and this will the best reason for AA not to use aerobridges at the new LCCT2.:lol: AA shouldn't involved the public directly with the campaign as it seems unprofessional for the company. It should come from the public and not the company itself. Its a very bad strategy and can be a backlash to the company. :ohno:

In Suvarnabhumi I paid nearly 70 Ringgit for airport tax when flying Air Asia back to KUL but from departure gate we were packed into buses toward the aircraft. Very uncomfortable buses which took nearly 10 minutes. Then we had to climb the stairs into cabin.

32 Ringgit is not bad, really. Sometimes I feel that this is a method used to secure Sydney line , to compensate for slightly higher airport fee.

PlanetNova

December 2nd, 2011, 04:16 PM

patchay

December 2nd, 2011, 07:14 PM

Chic, Vibrant, Playful, Artistic, Practical
Welcome to the New Retail Concept
@ KLIA2 - the first youth, innovative, lifestyle, retail-based airport in the world

Presented by Patchay.Com courtesy of Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd. Stay tuned for more.

Potential retail tenants: "Malaysia, Truly Asia" Experience Center, Hamleys Toys Store, Hershey's Chocolate Store, H&M Fashion Store, Apple Store, Samsung Experience Centre, Golden Screen Cinemas and International Film Hall, etc

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2945/klia2retailconcept.jpg

Khaw

December 2nd, 2011, 10:53 PM

Whats the big deal here!I am glad they here at least i know where to go looking for those kinky stuff:banana:

For yourself? Thanks for sharing your fetish...Malaysians have finally grown up!

Khaw

December 2nd, 2011, 10:58 PM

The toilets at KLIA are SUPER clean and “luxuriously” designed? Are you out of your mind?

Have you been to Changi T3?

Easy on him...different strokes for different folks. You have better taste, that's all.

Skyprince

December 3rd, 2011, 03:07 AM

The toilets at KLIA are SUPER clean and “luxuriously” designed? Are you out of your mind?

Have you been to Changi T3?

I was in KLIA 3 weeks ago and was extremely shocked with the latest changes to bathrooms. This wasn't the case when I was in KLIA mid of last year.

constipation

December 3rd, 2011, 03:32 AM

http://www.moodiereport.com/images2/victorias_secret_KLIA_dec11.jpg
Whats the big deal here!I am glad they here at least i know where to go looking for those kinky stuff:banana:

r u a female? or she-male,just curious..

patchay

December 3rd, 2011, 03:48 AM

r u a female? or she-male,just curious..

As a guy... I like the brand anyway!! :lol: :lol:

dengilo

December 3rd, 2011, 09:07 AM

There u go!:lol Once in a while i like to see my other half in something sexy too.:Actually i like their models more than anything else:nuts:It only took them how many freaking years to get here !:cheers:

CxIxMaN

December 3rd, 2011, 09:30 AM

Is this the upgraded KLIA2 ??
Note the extended pier
http://www.leapp.aero/Case-Study/25/Kuala-Lumpur-International-Airport/Kuala-Lumpur-International-Airport-New-Low-Cost-Carrier-Passenger-Terminal/
http://www.leapp.aero/images/casestudy/25.Malaysia_LCCT_09554DG00nb_New_LCCT_Terminal_Measurement_Option_5-45mppa_100709.jpg

maafcakap

December 3rd, 2011, 10:39 AM

r u read today nerw ?? Tony put his sport car with logos to protest an increment in airport tax..

Skyprince

December 3rd, 2011, 12:06 PM

^^ Hmm pelik sgt. Sometimes I felt this is not really about airport tax, but they are actually looking at something else.

tbc

December 3rd, 2011, 12:36 PM

^^ Hmm pelik sgt. Sometimes I felt this is not really about airport tax, but they are actually looking at something else.

Very perceptive, hah hah hah :lol:
Btw, news now circulating that MAHB MD will be sacked very soon, to appease Tan Sri :)

XNeo

December 3rd, 2011, 01:35 PM

Tony want to be new malaysian billionaire hor. itu macam Ananda Krishnan.
mau banyak untung.

and AA asked malaysian to protest the increment tax but they dont care about their customers like those old folks, handicapped ppl, even normal customers when they refuse to use aerobridges. :bash:
itu MAHB banyak bagus sudah kasi 'denda' sama Tony :lol: . bersusah payah buat aerobridges untok keselesaan rakyat Malaisia tapi Tony tamau guna. cit podah!.

naik kan je tax...banyak lagi low cost airline malaysian buleh pilih.
say no to Monopoly.

maafcakap

December 4th, 2011, 11:34 AM

daeng_jal

December 4th, 2011, 12:07 PM

alifdalya

December 4th, 2011, 02:59 PM

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/12/4/nation/10031602&sec=nation

MAHB: AirAsia asked for bigger KLIA2

PETALING JAYA: Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Malaysia%20Airports%20Holdings%20Bhd%20%28MAHB%29) has fought back to say that it was building a bigger KLIA2 upon the request of its biggest customer, AirAsia (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=AirAsia). It broke its silence after being criticised by AirAsia boss Tan Sri Tony Fernandes (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Tan%20Sri%20Tony%20Fernandes) for building KLIA2 to cater to 45 million passengers, thus inflating the cost to RM4bil.

On its website, MAHB posted a document titled Why KLIA2 has to be bigger? which showed that AirAsia had estimated that passenger traffic at the new terminal would hit 28.7 million by 2015, 45.3 million by 2020 and 60.3 million by 2025.

The figures were more aggressive than MAHB's own projections for the same period, according to a graph included on the website. MAHB said the new airport would cost between RM3.6bil and RM3.9bil and that AirAsia had asked for a fully automated baggage handling system from a semi-automated system, which caused the six-month delay in opening the airport.KLIA2 will only be ready in April 2013.

AirAsia chairman Datuk Aziz Bakar (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Datuk%20Aziz%20Bakar) said yesterday “we had requested MAHB to start thinking of building a bigger KLIA2 and to expand its capacity to cater to 45 million passengers since there has been a series of delays in the completion of the airport. The initial plan was for the airport to handle 30 million passengers and be completed in 2011”.

“(Now) if they do not start preparing for more passengers then we will not have the capacity as we anticipate to achieve 30 million passenger growth by 2015/16,” he said. On the fully automated baggage system, Aziz said: “We had asked for a semi-automated system but MAHB decided on a fully automated system and we agreed to it.”

The controversy over the bigger airport has also sparked speculation over Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Tan%20Sri%20Bashir%20Ahmad)'s future in MAHB. This led the market to speculate that he was supposed to meet Khazanah Nasional Bhd (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Khazanah%20Nasional%20Bhd) boss Tan Sri Azman Mokhtar (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Tan%20Sri%20Azman%20Mokhtar) yesterday. It could not be ascertained if the meeting took place.
Khazanah is a major shareholder with 54% stake in MAHB, and when contacted, its spokesman Mohd Asuki Abas said “we do not comment on speculation”.

On Friday, MAHB chairman Tan Sri Dr Aris Othman (http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/?q=Tan%20Sri%20Dr%20Aris%20Othman) said Bashir had the full support of the management and board, quashing rumours the latter would be replaced.

rizalhakim

December 5th, 2011, 08:37 AM

^^waaa.....Airasia vs MAHB saga dah jadi from bad to worse.....

maafcakap

December 5th, 2011, 11:34 AM

^^waaa.....Airasia vs MAHB saga dah jadi from bad to worse.....

it just perang mulut on one side n the other just keep mouth off..

come on lah airasia, mahb also wants to make money...they do not operate welfare airport..

agate8

December 5th, 2011, 06:24 PM

Nak tanya, kalau airport tax naik adakah syarikat penerbangan yang bayar atau penumpang yang bayar?:)

dengilo

December 5th, 2011, 11:33 PM

Uncle Tony yg bayar!:lol:NOTTTTTTTT Agate yg pastinya tentulah penumpang yg membayar.

rizalhakim

December 6th, 2011, 03:21 AM

:nuts::nuts:
AirAsia denies being behind delay of KLIA2
Published: 2011/12/06

KUALA LUMPUR: In a battle that looks set to worsen, AirAsia Bhd has come out with its own set of bewildering revelations on the construction of KLIA2, the country's new low-cost carrier terminal.

The budget airline has refuted claims by Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) that it had asked for a fully automated baggage handling system (BHS) and a 4km runway.

It also denied that it had been part of a decision by MAHB to increase the terminal capacity of KLIA2 to 45 million passengers per annum (ppa).

On Saturday, MAHB published on its website a list of requirements purpotedly made by airlines that were incorporated into the construction of KLIA2.

In the posting, MAHB said an airline, believed to be AirAsia, requested for the BHS, a 45 million passengers per annum capacity terminal and a 4km runway.

The BHS has been cited as one of the main reasons for the delay in the completion of KLIA2.

Referring to a letter dated August 9, 2011 written by MAHB managing director Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad, AirAsia said MAHB had confirmed that KLIA2 would be sufficient for 30 million ppa.

"This figure has never been officially changed by AirAsia or MAHB since August 9, 2011," the statement said.

It also went on to say that a joint committee comprising AirAsia and MAHB officials to agree on the construction of the new terminal and the charges, fees and concession mix was never formed.

"MAHB has not been consistent in producing mutually agreed plan and cost of construction," AirAsia said.

The statement also claimed that the 4km runway had been allocated for in the original design of the LCCT and had not been specifically requested for by AirAsia.

A letter written by AirAsia's Strategy, Airports and Planning regional head, Ashok Kumar, on July 6, 2010 to MAHB is cited to back the claim.

The low-cost carrier also had in its letter to MAHB in 2009 warned of the unsuitability of the site for KLIA2 and that costs would go up to between RM3.7 billion and RM3.9 billion.

AirAsia cited four elements - work to prepare the KLIA2 site, construction cost of the LCCT, a proposed sky bridge and MAHB's baggage system (not a fully automated one) - as contributors to higher costs.

AirAsia is also hosting a press conference today on the matter. Presenna Nambiar

Fernandes' 'powerful' request
Presenna Nambiar
Published: 2011/12/06

Malaysia Airports releases two letters written by Tony Fernandes and Bashir Ahmad addressing the issue of the baggage handling system.

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/tba/pix_bottom

MORE than an hour after posting a conciliatory message on its website, Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) released two letters written by AirAsia Bhd's Tan Sri Tony Fernandes and MAHB's Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad addressing the issue of the baggage handling system (BHS).

In a press statement released to the media late yesterday, in rebuttal to AirAsia press release distributed earlier, MAHB attached a letter written by Fermandes, AirAsia chief executive officer, requesting for the BHS in KLIA2 to be upgraded to a "powerful" fully automated one.

The letter was dated June 16, 2011.

In it, Fernandes wrote that AirAsia would prefer the installation of the most sophisticated fully automated BHS at the new LCCT.

In the letter to Bashir, Fernandes stated that AirAsia recognised that the decision might have certain impact on the current work at the new LCCT.

"We trust Tan Sri (Bashir) will understand and support AirAsia's decision, since it will result in significant benefits to AirAsia, MAHB and the nation as a whole," Fernandes said before signing off.

This letter is at odds with one quoted by AirAsia in its press statement yesterday, which has AirAsia X chairman Tan Sri Rafidah Aziz stating that the decision to implement a fully automated BHS was made unilaterally by MAHB and that the six-month delay to the completion of KLIA2 could not be attributed to AirAsia.

MAHB, however, explained this via a second letter in response to Rafidah's note.

In it, Bashir noted that while AirAsia and MAHB had come to an agreement that AirAsia would be willing to settle for a less sophisticated BHS in the interest of reducing the impact to the timeline and cost of the new LCCT, MAHB had said it would defer to the decision of the MAHB board.

The board later decided on the more sophisticated BHS and this was communicated to AirAsia in a meeting on July 6, 2011.

The statement by MAHB also highlighted that a total of 47 meetings had been held between MAHB and AirAsia since April last year to discuss and address all of AirAsia's requirements.

A workshop with all stakeholders, including AirAsia, was also held in September 2009, where the Needs Statement for KLIA2 was formulated.

"The full agreed minutes of these meetings will better reflect the detailed discussions held between Malaysia Airports and AirAsia on the development of KLIA2," MAHB said.

Other issues raised in AirAsia's press statement were not addressed.

D_Y2k.2^

December 6th, 2011, 03:51 AM

wow its getting really complicated. Building an airport pun banyak susah. Just make sure they don't put on hold :(

patchay

December 6th, 2011, 07:55 AM

AirAsia says KLIA2 cost spike due to lack of input
UPDATED @ 02:32:52 PM 06-12-2011
The Malaysian Insider | By Yow Hong Chieh December 06, 2011

SEPANG, Dec 6 — AirAsia today blamed Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) for all the delays and additional costs to KLIA2, claiming they could be put down to the airport operator’s failure to set up a joint panel to decide on the new terminal’s ideal specifications.

“No joint action committee was set up to get all the right requirements from Day One,” AirAsia commercial director Jasmine Lee told reporters at the airline’s office here.

She pointed out this was despite then-Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s recommendation in November 2008 to set up the panel after meeting with both parties.

Without the joint committee, AirAsia had no direct control over the design and construction of the new low-cost carrier terminal as it could only make requests and suggestions to MAHB, Lee said.

She pointed out that AirAsia had never wanted the new terminal to be built to the west of the existing KLIA as the soil there was too soft to support a runway and would require the construction of an additional runway.

“It’s nothing to do with aerobridges or no aerobridges or the baggage handling system. The core problem is with the site itself,” she stressed.

AirAsia was responding to MAHB’s claims that the higher cost of KLIA2 was due to requests from the carrier for additional capacity.

The estimated cost of the project has nearly doubled to RM3.9 billion from RM2 billion following the airport operator’s decision to boost passenger per annum (PPA) capacity to 45 million from 30 million previously.

MAHB had also said AirAsia’s decision in June to switch from a semi-automated baggage handling system (BHS) to one that was fully automated had pushed back the terminal’s completion date by six months.

KLIA2 is now expected to be completed only in April 2013.

AirAsia, MAHB’s biggest customer, has denied asking for a larger terminal and more powerful baggage system in line with the airline’s projections that 45.3 million PPA would be using KLIA2 by 2020.

Lee today reiterated that the decision to go with a fully-automated BHS was made unilaterally by MAHB without consulting AirAsia.

MAHB went ahead with the budget carrier’s original request in June this year for a fully-automated BHS despite AirAsia settling for a modified semi-automated system subsequent to that, she said.

MAHB said its board of directors made the decision on July 4 to proceed with a fully-automated BHS on concerns that AirAsia would change its mind again in future, when it would be too difficult to accommodate such changes.

The public finger-pointing between the two parties began when AirAsia boss Tan Sri Tony Fernandes rubbished MAHB’s justifications for the increased cost of KLIA2 on micro-blogging site Twitter on November 29.

He said increasing the terminal capacity to 45 million PPA from 30 million made little sense as that would make it larger than “the whole of Singapore’s Changi Airport”.

But MAHB shot back with a rebuttal yesterday, pointing out that AirAsia had been the one to estimate that passenger traffic at the new terminal would reach 28.7 million by 2015, 45.3 million by 2020 and 60.3 million by 2025.

AirAsia wants tenancy contract for KLIA2
The Malaysian Insider
By Yow Hong Chieh December 06, 2011

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2011/december2011/06/klia2-11-dec6.jpg
File photo of an artist’s impression of KLIA2 when completed.

SEPANG, Dec 6 — AirAsia says it wants a contract from Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) for KLIA2 to ensure a minimum level of service from the airport operator and to avoid arbitrary airport charge hikes in future.

AirAsia commercial director Jasmine Lee said a service level agreement (SLA) would ensure MAHB was accountable for service quality at the new terminal and allow the airline to make more accurate cost projections.

She pointed out that there was no SLA in place at the current LCCT, just conditions of use.

“It’s like renting a house and the landlord is not giving you a tenancy agreement,” she told reporters at the airline’s office here.

“AirAsia is the victim here because we can be charged anything, anytime they want... We can’t hold them accountable for anything at all so we’re at their mercy.”

MORE TO COME

rizalhakim

December 6th, 2011, 09:34 AM

AirAsia hopes for fair consideration on KLIA2
Published: 2011/12/06

In the latest twist to the feud between AirAsia Bhd and Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB), the budget carrier today expressed its hope to work as a family and for the airport operator to give fair consideration to the airline's requirement in the new low cost terminal (KLIA2).

AirAsia Chief Operating Officer Bo Lingam said the airline would be the
biggest company to utilise the new airport but some of its proposals and basic
requirements were not entertained by MAHB.

"As per the meeting between MAHB and AirAsia which was chaired by Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak, who was then Deputy Prime Minister, it was proposed that both the entities form a joint committee on the development of KLIA2.

"However, until now, there has been none. Although its quite late now, we
are still open for a joint committee for the benefit of AirAsia, MAHB and all
related parties in the development of the airport.

"Had the joint committee been formed, all these problems would not
have cropped up as it would have been resolved internally," he told a media
briefing here today.

He said the airline's main concern was the cost escalation of the new
terminal which would result in higher rental, surcharges and extra bills imposed on AirAsia, when the company moves its operations to KLIA2 scheduled to operate in 2013. This, he said, may also be a reason for AirAsia to increase its fares in future.

"Besides, we are requesting that MAHB agree to have a service level
agreement with us to occupy the new airport as we have no such agreement now with the present low cost carrier terminal.

"We also want MAHB to state in black and white the current airport charges
so that it will not be raised once we move to the new airport," he said.

Bo Lingam said the airline also requested for a taxiway to be built in the
first phase of the new terminal and this was infact slated in the airport's
initial runway plan, but the plan was aborted.

It has now been planned for construction in the second phase of the project.

"If the runway is not constructed, we are going to incur losses
amounting to some RM40 million, annually, only on fuel, because we have to cross the runway without a taxiway," he added.

Bo Lingam also said AirAsia does not deny the fact that MAHB and the airline
company had a total of 47 meetings on the new airport project.

"However, no decision was taken at the meetings. It was more one-sided with
us presenting our latest plans and proposals and all they said was that the
board would meet to deliberate and make a final decision.

"We want a low-cost airport, our operating procedures does not require a
world-class airport. We have told them (MAHB) this many times but the latest
development clearly shows that they are not getting what we are trying to
prove here," he said.

Bo Lingam said in 2009, the company identified a piece of land and drew up a
sample airport design.

"The cost of the project, if based on that design, would not have cost
more than RM700 million, but without any reason, MAHB rejected both the site and design.

"We already know that the current site will incur more cost and work because
the soil is soft but MAHB make the final decision and now the date of completion is being delayed from year-end to September 2013," he said.

He also said due to the delay, AirAsia had to defer new aircraft delivery
due to space constraint.

"We are now talking with MAHB and related parties on securing a piece of
land to park the new aircraft until the new airport is ready because we cannot
keep deferring aircraft delivery just like that," he said.

AirAsia, Bo Lingam said had helped Malaysia place itself on the world map as
one of countries offering low-cost travel.

"So, what's wrong if MAHB grants us a business partner relationship in this
particular matter," he said.

AirAsia and MAHB are sheduled to have their update meetings on the new
airport tomorrow. -- Bernama

maafcakap

December 6th, 2011, 12:00 PM

MAHB refutes AirAsia’s statement
Written by Max Koh
Tuesday, 06 December 2011 11:36
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KUALA LUMPUR: Immediately after AirAsia Bhd claimed that it did not ask for a fully automatic baggage handling system (BHS) in KLIA2, Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) came out to defend its position on the matter.

In a statement issued yesterday evening to counter AirAsia’s statement sent out earlier in the day (read above story), MAHB provided documents to show that AirAsia had indeed requested to change the BHS in KLIA2 from a semi-automated to a fully automated one, which would result in the delay of KLIA2 completion and cost overruns.

The letters also highlighted that AirAsia had projected the KLIA2 to have more than 35 million passengers per annum within five years of opening day.

MAHB provided a letter dated June 16 from AirAsia group CEO Tan Sri Tony Fernandes, which stated that AirAsia opted for a fully automated BHS after considering three options given by MAHB.

The AirAsia letter read: “Our official response to MAHB is that AirAsia prefers that the BHS system be developed as shown in BHS Option 3: Dual Tilt Tray Sorter with Full Connectivity (fully-auto BHS). There are two principal reasons why we have chosen this approach, and they both have to do with insuring that the AirAsia group has a BHS system which has the capacity and flexibility to support our continued growth and development.”

In the letter, AirAsia had also said it had developed a state-of-the-art passenger and baggage check-in system, which would be rolled out at the new KLIA2.
The airline and airports operator, helmed by Tan Sri Tony Fernandes (left) and Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad respectively, tell their side of the KLIA2 story.

AirAsia also stated its new projections that KLIA2 would have more than 35 million passengers per annum within five years of opening day (by 2017). It added that the capacity must be installed at the onset of completion of KLIA2 as it would be difficult to expand the BHS system within five years of opening.

“We recognise our decision to select the most powerful BHS system option may have certain impact on the current work at the PLCCT (KLIA2). However, the evolving nature of our business requires a high level of strategic agility for our continued growth and success,” said the AirAsia letter.

MAHB also provided a letter dated Oct 10 that it wrote to AirAsia X Sdn Bhd chairman Tan Sri Rafidah Aziz. In the letter, MAHB said AirAsia’s request to change the BHS from semi-automated to fully automated would delay the progress of the KLIA2.

“MAHB had a meeting with AirAsia and AirAsiaX on July 1. MAHB had highlighted during this meeting that with the current progress of the development of KLIA2 having reached almost 40% as per the completion timeline by October 2012, any material changes in the BHS system would most certainly impact the completion date of the project,” MAHB said in its letter to Rafidah.

The delay is due to the reworking of the terminal design and layout, MAHB added.

The MAHB letter further said that in order to reduce the delay of KLIA2 completion, MAHB and AirAsia contemplated on a modified version of option 2 (semi-auto BHS) which would incorporate certain features from option 3 (full-auto BHS). MAHB said the modified version 2 would satisfy AirAsia’s immediate operational needs but not its long-term needs.

MAHB noted that during its board meeting on July 4, the board had decided to proceed with Option 3, as it was concerned that “AirAsia’s position could very well change in the future” and it would be difficult to accommodate any changes then.

MAHB conveyed its board’s decision to AirAsia on July 6.

It also required AirAsia’s confirmation on its willingness to use the full Baggage Source Message system (BSM) and the Common Use Passenger Processing System (CUPPS) that is needed for a fully-auto BHS.

“Although we received AirAsia’s confirmation to comply with the BSM requirements on Aug 18, AirAsia’s response on the CUPPS is still outstanding and this could further delay the upgrade of the BHS beyond six months,” said MAHB.

XNeo

December 6th, 2011, 12:25 PM

davidwsk

December 6th, 2011, 02:17 PM

Sorry I just dont buy this political drama...

Everything is planned for election.

Just wait and see, Mr. PM will "contribute" enough to resolve this "intense" fight between AA and MAHB before GE.

:ohno::ohno:

davidwsk

December 6th, 2011, 02:20 PM

People Wake up....dont be fooled by all these man-made "drama"..
:bleep:

arepull87

December 6th, 2011, 02:49 PM

Drama?..how stupid PM if he think by made this drama he will win the election...i don't think he is too fool to involve in this...

AA n MAHB x pernah ngam sejk dulu lg..i dont care if they want to make drama, sinetron or telenovela ke...what i want they finish this airport..please stop bashing each other...sometimes i think AA has too munch power...

patchay

December 6th, 2011, 03:10 PM

The building of the 3rd runway and Skybridge actually allow AA to save close to RM40 million annually.

Besides that, MAHB should have consulted properly about the KLIA2 cost, aerobridges and final specs with AA, but they went ahead without informing AA.

For MAHB, why should they consult AA when they know they would be subject to AA's requirements which would make MAHB not having good impression with the govt/DCA, major stakeholders and lost of some revenue such as aerobridge charges.

For AA, why should MAHB not follow their requirements since AA will be the primary tenant and user of KLIA2. The failure to comply would mean affecting AA's business model and thus do not benefit the people and Malaysia's aviation ambition in general.

And WTH is the Transport Minister? He has not spoken a word. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

triple-j

December 6th, 2011, 03:12 PM

^^ i think MAHB just need to expand the current LLCT to be a mega warehouse LCCT to cater 45 million passengers.

that is all i can say.

no need modern and the best LCCT .

fed up with the drama. :bash:

its look like MAHB and AA dont know how to make deal in business . masing2 nampak kebodohannya, masing2 finger pointing. shameful. :bash:.

Sorry I just dont buy this political drama...

Everything is planned for election.

Just wait and see, Mr. PM will "contribute" enough to resolve this "intense" fight between AA and MAHB before GE.

:ohno::ohno:

People Wake up....dont be fooled by all these man-made "drama"..
:bleep:

Drama?..how stupid PM if he think by made this drama he will win the election...i don't think he is too fool to involve in this...

AA n MAHB x pernah ngam sejk dulu lg..i dont care if they want to make drama, sinetron or telenovela ke...what i want they finish this airport..please stop bashing each other...sometimes i think AA has too munch power...

^^ Phewhhh! Agree with all of you. Exhausted already with these soap opera. Just deliver the damn airport!

dengilo

December 6th, 2011, 03:32 PM

The building of the 3rd runway and Skybridge actually allow AA to save close to RM40 million annually.
For what to pump it into F1 ahh?:ohno:

And WTH is the Transport Minister? He has not spoken a word. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

For what to pump into his play play F1 team ahh ?::ohno: /1 sen tara guna punya menteli:bash:

LeeighIam

December 6th, 2011, 04:53 PM

All this drama is so third world, get over it! it all boils down to dollars and cents...tired of this shit and none them would wanna step up and be the bigger one. its like two mentally challenged kids playin with fire in their living room!

tbc

December 6th, 2011, 11:42 PM

And WTH is the Transport Minister? He has not spoken a word. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Don't you realize there is now Minister of Aviation and Minister of (other) Transport already in Malaysia ? :lol:
This is aviation matter and that MCA fella is not Minister of Aviation (for practical purpose anyway) :)

dengilo

December 7th, 2011, 02:29 AM

Anyone recall how much they spend to build KLIA?BY the time they done with this so called "LCC"terminal it will be something else!Any idea how big and how many cars can park at this new terminal?Are there going LONG TERM PARKING this time around!

Khaw

December 7th, 2011, 03:17 AM

rizalhakim

December 7th, 2011, 04:48 AM

AirAsia calls for truce in dispute with MAHB over KLIA2
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/12/7/business/10047401&sec=business

Ironically, when the AirAsia press conference was going on, Fernandes tweeted to say that one of the letters posted on MAHB website was fake, but quickly changed it to say that what he meant was the argument was “fake'', not the letter.

sudah malu terus cakap lets move on hehe :nuts::lol:

maafcakap

December 7th, 2011, 11:54 AM

AirAsia calls for truce in dispute with MAHB over KLIA2
By B.K. SIDHU
bksidhu@thestar.com.my

SEPANG: Tan Sri Tony Fernandes is ready to move on following the bitter feud he and his company, AirAsia Bhd, had with Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) over the high cost of building a bigger KLIA2.

“Enough has been said and we just wanted to make it affordable. I have invited Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad to our 10th year anniversary this Thursday and maybe we can find a win-win solution,'' Fernandes told StarBiz yesterday.

This came two hours after the AirAsia press conference where 10 of its executives demanded for a service level agreement (SLA) from MAHB before the carrier moved to KLIA2 in April 2013.

As at press time, it could not be ascertained if Bashir will accept the invite from Fernandes since it has been a bitter spat between the two. However, a day earlier, MAHB did offer an olive branch when it posted an announcement on its website, saying that “it has always been MAHB's view that in dealing with our partners, issues raised by either party are best resolved through proper consultation.

“We wish to continue working closely with all our partners to address any issues that may arise and will do so through a proper working forum as we believe this is the best and most objective way to do so. MAHB believes that any disagreements in public are neither good for the image nor in the best interest of the country.''

Ironically, when the AirAsia press conference was going on, Fernandes tweeted to say that one of the letters posted on MAHB website was fake, but quickly changed it to say that what he meant was the argument was “fake'', not the letter.

Earlier at the press conference, AirAsia chief operating officer Bo Lingam said: “We need an SLA to know what our cost is going to be.'' His main concern was that the high cost of KLIA2 could potentially result in AirAsia having to pay high rentals, surcharges and extra bills.

“We also want MAHB to state in black and white the current airport charges so that it will not be raised once we move to the new airport,” Bo said.

In response to the SLA, MAHB said in a statement issued yesterday evening that “we have indicated our willingness to have an SLA and are awaiting AirAsia's proposal on the SLA for further study and consideration. We would also like to reiterate that the airport charges, both current and future, are regulated by the Government and the mechanisms for future increases have been clearly defined in our Operating Agreement with the Government.''

MAHB now has a Conditions of Use (CoU) agreement with its airline partners as well as the ground handlers at KL International Airport. The CoU provides guidance on the use of airport facilities, particularly with regard to the safe and secure use of the airport, as well as a schedule of applicable airport charges, and that was very much in line with the common industry practice.

AirAsia executives also hoped that MAHB will build a taxiway that they have been asking for from Runway 3 to Runway 2. That is despite getting a place for an office tower, a hotel (Tune Hotel) and a car park. They also said that having a “chilling facility'' located at KLIA2 would help them store food before it was loaded onto aircraft.

AirAsia executives said the current site was not the perfect location for KLIA2, and that they believed this had led the cost of building KLIA2 to balloon to between RM3.6bil and RM3.9bil. They also wanted a joint committee set up for better coordination between the two parties.

To this, MAHB said: “The present site for KLIA2 was selected based on the National Airport Master Plan after a detailed and comprehensive study involving all our stakeholders including Transport Ministry, Department of Civil Aviation, Finance Ministry, Home Affairs Ministry and all airlines including AirAsia.''

MAHB added that the weekly meetings held with AirAsia and other stakeholders served as a platform for all views and requirements to be discussed and addressed, and thus far 47 had been held.

“Most of AirAsia's requests have been complied with. Only issues which have financial implications are referred to the board. We will continue to engage AirAsia during the weekly meetings,'' it said.

patchay

December 7th, 2011, 06:57 PM

AirAsia wants SLA for KLIA2
Written by Isabelle Francis
Wednesday, 07 December 2011 10:37
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/197430-airasia-wants-sla-for-klia2.html

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/images/stories/FinancialDaily/2011/December/07122011/p4_agi.jpg
AirAsia wanted the VERITAS design. Great!!! MAHB's sucks. :ohno:

SEPANG: AirAsia Bhd wants Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) to implement its requests. If these requests are not implemented, its operations at the new low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT), KLIA2, will be negatively impacted, the company says.

AirAsia commercial director Jasmine Lee wants MAHB to provide a service level agreement (SLA), which should incorporate aeronautical charges at KLIA2.

“At the current LCCT, what MAHB gave us is only conditions of use [as an agreement] and it is a useless piece of paper with no contract executable.

“As a public listed company, how can you not have a service agreement? AirAsia can be a victim here, as they can charge any rate at any time,” Lee told a press briefing yesterday.

Ashok Kumar, AirAsia regulatory issues and infrastructure development regional head, said despite a request for a SLA from MAHB from over a year ago, there has been no response from the airport operator.

MAHB currently has conditions of use (CoU) agreements with its airline partners and ground handlers at KLIA. The CoU provides guidance on the use of airport facilities, particularly with regards to the safe and secure use of the airport, as well as a schedule of airport charges.

MAHB has responded positively to AirAsia’s request for a SLA and welcomed AirAsia’s input on the matter (see table).

AirAsia has asked for a full and parallel taxiway to Runway 2 that can save the airline some RM40 million in additional fuel costs yearly.

“The current design of the KLIA2 now requires us to cross runways. We burn RM40 million [annually] in extra fuel just for this and we would have to absorb this cost,” AirAsia management pilot Captain Fareh Ishraf Mazputra said.

He said although there is provision for a full and parallel taxiway to Runway 2 under the KLIA2 project, it will not be ready when AirAsia moves into the new terminal come 2013 as it will only be developed at a later stage. Airlines operating out of KLIA2 will have access to both Runway 2 and Runway 3 come April 2013, while those at the main KLIA terminal will utilise Runway 1.

Lee said had MAHB agreed to set up a joint committee with AirAsia, the airport operator could have avoided the ballooning of costs of KLIA2 as all the requirements made by the airline would be met from “day one”.

AirAsia chief operating officer Bo Lingam said, for instance, one of the requests was to build the KLIA2 at a different site, which would have resulted in a cheaper but more efficient airport.

“We have outlined the detailed requirements and done costing at a site we had chosen, and it would only cost RM700 million,” he said, adding that there are now concerns over higher aeronautical charges because of the costlier KLIA2.

“Our operational requirements do not need aerobridges. We don’t need all that [the additional specifications of the new KLIA2]. The airport we suggested back then was ideal,” said Bo. He also claimed that the airline had written to the Transport Ministry about its requests.

MAHB had said earlier that the increase in the cost of KLIA2 cost will not translate into higher aeronautical charges, which are heavily regulated.

The briefing held by AirAsia yesterday came in the midst of a war of words between AirAsia and MAHB since the unveiling of the new and costlier RM3.9 billion KLIA2.

The three other AirAsia officials who attended the press briefing were management pilot Captain Chin Nyok San, customer experience regional head Zaman Ahmad, and head of commercial Kathleen Tan. AirAsia group CEO Tan Sri Tony Fernandes was not present.

The disagreements between MAHB and AirAsia escalated after the latter launched a campaign to encourage its customers to say nay to MAHB’s move to increase airport charges. What is interesting about this spat is that fresh information about the development of KLIA2 is being unveiled in the process.

On Monday, AirAsia issued a press statement to refute claims made by MAHB that it had asked for a bigger airport and said it should not be blamed for the cost of constructing KLIA2, which had nearly doubled from RM2 billion to RM3.9 billion.

The cost increase at KLIA2 by some RM1.6 billion to RM1.9 billion stems largely from earthworks (RM670 million), a bigger terminal building (RM420 million), a longer runway at 3.96km (RM180 million) and better public infrastructure (RM260 million).

One of the key arguments involves the implementation of a fully-automated baggage handling system (BHS) at KLIA2, as AirAsia wanted a semi-automated system.

An airline official said yesterday the decision on the BHS, just like the provisions for A380 aircraft at KLIA2, was made unilaterally by MAHB.

To add insult to injury, Fernandes said in a twitter feed yesterday that the argument unveiled by MAHB on the BHS was “fake”.

It is important to note that material changes to the BHS was one of the main reasons behind the further delay of the completion of KLIA2. The project will now be operational only by 2013.

Despite the later projected completion of KLIA2, AirAsia officials said no decisions have been made yet on more aircraft deferments due to the delay.

This article appeared in The Edge Financial Daily, December 7, 2011.

guy4versa

December 7th, 2011, 07:09 PM

veritas design was the best!

XNeo

December 8th, 2011, 02:16 AM

veritas design was the best!

best but No to aerobridges???...

just give AA warehouse style LcCT .if they really want to save cost.
period.

dengilo

December 8th, 2011, 02:37 AM

There u go!

Skyprince

December 8th, 2011, 02:42 AM

veritas design was the best!

But must be the more expensive, right ? And airport passenger fee supposed to be more expensive than current design , right ? Then AirAsia will complain about high passenger fee, AGAIN

jfratteree

December 8th, 2011, 06:03 AM

The Veritas Design was over one third smaller, and at least a half billion ringgit cheaper.

By using walkways like AirAsia currently has at the LCAT, total passenger walking distance was half what it is in the MAHB design. Total concourse length for the Veritas Design is approximately 1500m, for all three concourses. For the five concourse MAHB design, the total is approximately 3000m.

Other features:
The concourses were single-level so they could be built quickly and cheaply. While the holdrooms were air conned, the actual concourse was an open-air garden, which was open to the sky in they very middle. Rain could fall in, to pools and plantings below. It was intended as one final goodbye to all travelers from this beautiful tropical country.

Likewise, the ticketing hall was also open air, partly designed by the engineers for the Southern Cross Train Station in Melbourne, which has won a boatload of green design awards.

However....the commercial area after check-in was designed as an air conditioned wonderland with three times the retail space of the MAHB design. An airline operations tower which rose out of the middle of the commercial zone was to be fitted out with the world's first revolving airside restaurant and world's first revolving airside lounge, on two separate floors high above the terminal.

The center of the comercial zone was to be an ASEAN food court with each ASEAN country and all three primary food cultures in Malaysia being represented.

Because the terminal was over 65% at ground level and only one third above ground floor, the building could be built fast.

Because over one third of the building was given over to commercial space, it would pay for itself, and need very little rent from airlines.

Because over half the building's floor area was to be open-air, it would be the world's greenest airport. Also, because it would need less air con equipment, it would also be much less expensive to build.

nazrey

December 8th, 2011, 06:15 AM

Dulu air asia nak buat kt Labu (Negeri Sembilan) but MAHB mau kt KLIA Sepang...

silverian86

December 8th, 2011, 07:30 AM

air asia plan nk wat airport sendiri kt tanjung malim...tak lulus

XNeo

December 8th, 2011, 07:50 AM

aiport at tanjung malim as their hub?> hahaahaha:nuts::nuts::nuts:

nak pergi current LCCT pun rasa dah jauh..ini pula nak ke tanjung malim.
might as well they all go to tanjung rambutan. hahahaah.

silverian86

December 8th, 2011, 07:53 AM

nak pergi current LCCT pun rasa dah jauh..ini pula nak ke tanjung malim.
might as well they all go to tanjung rambutan. hahahaah.

LOL...:lol:

diorang saje nak lari dari MAHB tu....paln mcm tu dah tentu la kena reject

Tulsa

December 8th, 2011, 08:23 AM

For the time being, Tony will not allow AEROBRIDGES...

If that happens, He's worried that the goodbye to AirAsia's growth story. It's not about they can't pay the aerobridges (in fact it's too minimal to impact the prices) but other things attached with the deal.

In other words MAHB is offering aerobridges to AirAsia which AirAsia is more than willing to pay, but it comes with some TERMS & CONDITIONS. I would love to hear MAHB's side of story.

^^ show your proof or MAHB should sue this forumer for the baseless accusation

patchay

December 8th, 2011, 09:46 AM

^^ show your proof or MAHB should sue this forumer for the baseless accusation

That post was before this big HOOHA. So I did found out some stories from MAHB side, though.

I had dinner with Tan Sri Bashir and 8 senior members as posted earlier. Funny is we are actually asked to mediate or cool down this problem on social media.

Follow me on twitter. Please.

The public actually doesn't know the whole story.

Patchay is a friend of Azran, boss of AirAsia X and a supporter of Tony Fernandes' entrepreneurship.

With the recent blickering, today, Patchay finds out the story from the other side - from MAHB.

Patchay & Social Media Youth's Dinner with MAHB Senior Mgmt Team

Highlights:

- This is the first time MAHB has engaged youth social media and bloggers. Tan Sri Bashir and Dato Azmi came with his team of senior management to have dinner presentation.

- The term "Low Cost Terminal" is very blur today. Today the airlines have wide-bodied aircraft thus space utilization is different, fly long-haul thus have international and transit passengers, fly with optional premium facilities, etc etc.

- KLIA2 was planned to be passenger comfort, for the interest of passengers, NOT for the comfort of airlines as opposed to current LCCT.

- KLIA2 heavily incorporates COMMERCIAL RETAIL TOURISM & ENTERTAINMENT element. Before this KLIA only had barely 5% for commercial retail.

- KLIA2 is targeting passengers of the age bracket between 20-35 who travels "very" frequently. Currently those who passes thru LCCT: 67% within 22-44 yr old. 43% white collar. Travel avg every 2 months. Avg 2 hrs spent in airport.

- KLIA2 undergo a major revamp in New Expansion Plan > Explaining the cost increment, especially passengers will now be seggregated between departing and arriving, and domestic and arrivals, and to meet new requirements of Civil Aviation such as backup control tower and baggage system. Third runway was brought forward as per KLIA Masterplan. The airport will aim for LEED certification (green). More details later.

- An internal AEROTRAIN will be built 5-6 years down the road once Satellite Terminal B starts. Provision for KTMB from Seremban.

- KLIA2 will retain viability rating of "AAA" (by RAM) and with the cost increment it still has the lowest construction cost per passenger (by international dollars) in the world.

- KLIA2 will have the cheapest parking rates (calculated over one day) in the world... but only for aircraft, not for cars.

- MAHB has compromised AA many times, including giving subsidies and charged a lower price for AA as compared to other airlines, letting space inside the airport for AA's office, maintaining low-cost airport charges over a decade, spent alot of money upgrading current LCCT twice, etc.

- The increase in Passengers Taxes are justified and has no prove that it will increase its client's cost structure. All passengers will be affected regardless of airlines and these taxes/charges go to improving KLIA, LCCT and KLIA2. Its client will still pay one of the lowest landing and parking charges in this region, and the lower the charges, the less contribution to Malaysia's GDP.

- Putting posters on landlord's buildings without prior permission is illegal. :lol: :lol:

davidwsk

December 8th, 2011, 01:35 PM

TF get booted ?? Bye bye TF

AirAsia boss to leave

Iconic AirAsia chief executive officer, Tan Sri Tony Fernandes has dropped hints that he may leave as the supremo of the budget airline.

Without giving the exact timeline, he says the company can expect a new leadership soon.

Fernandes, the brain behind the frills-free carriers' meteoric rise, hinted at his departure during the airline's 10th anniversary celebrations on Thursday.

When asked on where AirAsia will be in the next 10 years, he said: "Next 10 years will be a new CEO, my time is coming to an end soon.

"Yes, all three of us (chairman Datuk Aziz Bakar and deputy chief executive Officer Datuk Kamaruddin Meranun) will have to go together."

Fernandes said leadership was all about change and about bringing new people on board.

"Yes. We are coming to a point where there will be a leadership change. It's inevitable. A good leadership is to know when to go and to refresh the organisation with young and energetic leaders," he said.

Asked what he intends to do after leaving AirAsia, Fernandes joked, saying "I plan to open a low-cost television."

On a serious note, he said: "No. The three of us have plenty of things to do."

Fernandes, however, said he has not identified a potential successor, but hinted that it would be an internal change. He said the new leadership will have to keep up with the airline's aspirations such as keeping the airfares low and to explore most of the Asian region.

Source: Bernama
Published Dec 8 2011

davidwsk

December 8th, 2011, 01:36 PM

A lot of inside agendas..

XNeo

December 8th, 2011, 01:39 PM

from drama to telenovela.....

patchay

December 8th, 2011, 01:42 PM

A lot of inside agendas..

Yes.. but the public got the wrong impression again especially in the comments area in The Malaysian Insider.

TF is not resigning, neither he is taking over MAS. TF is preparing potentially new CEO, coz one day he will retire, re-marry and enjoy in London.

Btw I post some real estate/aviation news from time to time at http://twitter.com/patchay.

Arkdriver

December 9th, 2011, 03:43 AM

patchay

December 9th, 2011, 06:09 AM

patchay,

i appreciate you being a close friend to azran or tony. But when public start seeing whos the bully here, TF caught with his pants down and now offering a truce.

What a pity.

Do you actually believe the RM 40 million figure they said? Just few days before TF said he never wanted a new runway.

Me, as a neutral, see this as AirAsia taking advantage of our rotten, corrupt and weak government to press for their cause.

Whatever it is, dont think airasia is championing the people's right when they add exorbitant surcharges here and there. They just want to make more money and want government to follow their instructions/wishes. Stop dragging the public into this when they dont want to use aerobridges.

What's the fuss, they dont even use budget terminal in SIN, no complain pulak.

I agree that lately AirAsia has become very arrogant.

People who have worked with Tony do complain and condemn alot about him also. Its success does not come just like that, I know AA staffs worked with sweat and tears more than other airlines like MAS.

Up till today, the Transport Minister is silent. AA looks like the "champion of words" but of course with things like "MAHB is government-linked" people on the Internet tend to bash MAHB more than AA.

Indeed people are biased against MAHB simply because of being "seduced" by AA's publicity stunt. Some people forgotten about how aerobridges are so important to disabled, pregnant ladies, children, normal female and even male passengers. You don't be surprised that AA's perception is that KLIA2 was built out of their needs, thus they owned the final say, when in fact, MAHB is building for the needs of the LCC passengers rather than AA itself.

Tan Sri Bashir said he could not understand why Tony is so obssessed with social media when he is a CEO, a big guy of some sort, but find time to retweet random people's tweets to him. Up till today, Tony dresses up so casual in meetings that guys in the airline industry find hard to adapt, because traditionally the mindset is "flying" is a "grand" thing and that it comes with a level of service and prestige.

Khaw

December 9th, 2011, 07:20 AM

Whether the public realizes that it has been misled or otherwise, the perception now about AA and TF probably has changed a lot...negatively. That's why TF is trying to "move on." They have demonstrated that they are willing to sacrifice public comfort and safety for saving a few measly sen per passenger. That's going to burn deep into people's mind for a long time. History has shown that such moves did not "fly" and there were repercussions. I for one will have second thoughts about using AA given their arrogant attitude.

maafcakap

December 9th, 2011, 02:11 PM

I agree that lately AirAsia has become very arrogant.

People who have worked with Tony do complain and condemn alot about him also. Its success does not come just like that, I know AA staffs worked with sweat and tears more than other airlines like MAS.

Up till today, the Transport Minister is silent. AA looks like the "champion of words" but of course with things like "MAHB is government-linked" people on the Internet tend to bash MAHB more than AA.

Indeed people are biased against MAHB simply because of being "seduced" by AA's publicity stunt. Some people forgotten about how aerobridges are so important to disabled, pregnant ladies, children, normal female and even male passengers. You don't be surprised that AA's perception is that KLIA2 was built out of their needs, thus they owned the final say, when in fact, MAHB is building for the needs of the LCC passengers rather than AA itself.

Tan Sri Bashir said he could not understand why Tony is so obssessed with social media when he is a CEO, a big guy of some sort, but find time to retweet random people's tweets to him. Up till today, Tony dresses up so casual in meetings that guys in the airline industry find hard to adapt, because traditionally the mindset is "flying" is a "grand" thing and that it comes with a level of service and prestige.

i also think tf go so far in this tussle...looks like all blames on mahb shoulder...still remember when they made noise about mas monopoly air service at borneo ?? After not so long fax fly high there...they hand back to govrnment after rural air service is unprofitable...

For airasia, all profit go to them but for mahb, they need to use profit to cover lost making airports at malaysia..so it's important for mahb continue to be profitable bcause they cant all time rely to govrnmt to cover cost...govrnmet money means rakyat's money...we r know that bcause mahb cant increase tax before, the govrment need to make payment to mahb..

nazrey

December 11th, 2011, 01:59 PM

A New Dawn: KLIA 2 - The Realisation of the Next Generation Hub

http://convergence.net.my/Portals/6/LiveContent/999/Images/klia2-08.png

http://convergence.net.my/Portals/6/LiveContent/999/Images/klia2-10.png

http://convergence.net.my/Portals/6/LiveContent/999/Images/klia2-11.png

http://convergence.net.my/Portals/6/CNV_3/klia2one.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ChpWUgQ_jcU/TcNzL-hdC0I/AAAAAAAAAHo/MXiq0dvDDMo/s1600/KLIA2%2Bblog%2Bpic.jpg

http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2011/12/1/business/p3-klia2.JPG
http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2011/12/1/business/p3-klia2.JPG

sepul

December 11th, 2011, 03:40 PM

a question.. KLIA 2 will be a separate airport or will it be like a terminal to KLIA?? cuz I read somewhere that KLIA 2 will be a terminal, not another different airport..

been thinking.. since KLIA has been consistently rated one of the best airports in the world, future ranking (when KLIA 2 is operational) will include KLIA 2 or not? would be cool if KLIA 2 is a separate airport and get into the list as well!.. or will KLIA 2 be rated in a different category??

daeng_jal

December 12th, 2011, 11:06 AM

PlanetNova

December 12th, 2011, 04:24 PM

a green design doesnt mean the a/c has to be eliminated. Cannot imagine a ticketing hall which is not air-conditioned. It won't work in a tropical place like here.

razpatrol99

December 12th, 2011, 11:00 PM

been thinking.. since KLIA has been consistently rated one of the best airports in the world, future ranking (when KLIA 2 is operational) will include KLIA 2 or not? would be cool if KLIA 2 is a separate airport and get into the list as well!.. or will KLIA 2 be rated in a different category??

If im not mistaken.., the shitty condition of the current LCCT terminal already included in the rating of KLIA. With the completion of KLIA2 i guess the rating for KLIA definitely would be better.

maafcakap

December 14th, 2011, 05:33 AM

nazrey

January 3rd, 2012, 01:43 PM

Proposed ERL line to KLIA2 to be displayed
Published: 2012/01/03
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20120103172000/Article/index_html#ixzz1iOlnBkUl

Express Rail Link Sdn Bhd (ERL) will be putting up a Public Display of the proposed extension of the ERL line from KLIA's Main Terminal Building to the new low-cost carrier terminal, KLIA2.

The display will be available from Jan 6 to April 5, 2012 between 9 am and 5 pm Monday to Friday, ERL said in a statement today.

"It will be available at KLIA Express Arrival Hall at Kuala Lumpur Sentral Station and the Land Public Transport Commission office, 13th floor, Menara Dayabumi, Jalan Sultan Hishamuddin, Kuala Lumpur," it added. -- Bernama

XNeo

January 6th, 2012, 12:50 PM

no new photos of KLIA2?.:)

World 2 World

January 15th, 2012, 03:06 AM

YOUsILlsas0

dengilo

January 15th, 2012, 05:14 AM

no new photos of KLIA2?.:)

Actually ur rightlah there so far and between like its a top secret project lah this one:lol:

World 2 World

January 30th, 2012, 04:46 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrDSQUfGAsc/TxpS9IuvG5I/AAAAAAAAALc/iVzcXW-jNNo/s1600/Photo3332.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NrPzvHIlt6w/TxpS9a5CTyI/AAAAAAAAALk/NrE41wJsrsI/s1600/Photo3335.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-16MEdqSD334/TxpS80a95ZI/AAAAAAAAALQ/57V7gT9YeIY/s1600/Photo3324.jpg

thx to Anne for d pics:)
sukahatisajahahaha.blogspot.com

nazrey

January 31st, 2012, 02:31 PM

MAHB proposes private share placement to part finance KLIA2
Tuesday January 31, 2012
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/1/31/business/10568066&sec=business

PETALING JAYA: Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) has proposed private placement of up to 110 million new ordinary shares of RM1 each, representing 10% of the company’s issued and paid-up share capital, primarily to part finance the additional capital expenditure (capex) incurred for the enhancements to its Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA2) low-cost carrier terminal.

According to MAHB, assuming that the issue price is fixed at RM5.44 per placement share and MAHB issues 110 million new shares, it is expecting to raise gross proceeds of approximately RM598.4mil.

Of that amount, RM590mil will be utilised within 12 months to part finance the additional capex for KLIA2 while the remaining RM8.4mil will be used within the three months to defray expenses relating to the proposed private placement.

In its note to Bursa Malaysia yesterday, MAHB said the actual proceeds to be raised from the proposed private placement would be dependent on the actual issue price and number of placement shares to be issued.

It added that in the event that a lesser amount of proceeds was raised from the proposed private placement, the proposed utilisation would reduce proportionately.

“After due consideration of the various methods of fund raising as well as the capital structure of the company, the board is of the view that the proposed private placement is the most appropriate mean of raising funds in an expeditious manner to part finance the additional capex.”

MAHB said this would allow the company to meet its obligations in connection with the construction of KLIA2 while, at the same time, maintained the fast track nature of the construction of the low-cost carrier terminal, which is scheduled to be completed in April 2013.

Late last year, MAHB announced that KLIA2 would need to nearly double its original size and cost nearly twice its initial costing of RM2bil to between RM3.6bil and RM3.9bil. The increase in size and cost would cater to an expected 45 million passengers.

The original size of the two-storey terminal building was 150,000 sq m but, to cater to government requirement to segregate domestic and international passengers, it has been upgraded to nine storeys on a 257,000 sq m site.

boxxy

January 31st, 2012, 07:13 PM

fairul

February 2nd, 2012, 01:05 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrDSQUfGAsc/TxpS9IuvG5I/AAAAAAAAALc/iVzcXW-jNNo/s1600/Photo3332.jpg

thx to Anne for d pics:)
sukahatisajahahaha.blogspot.com

apart from safety helmet, no other safety gear. :bash:

nazrey

February 6th, 2012, 05:57 AM

KLIA2 concessionaire awards by July
By LEONG HUNG YEE Monday February 6, 2012
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/2/6/business/10299093&sec=business

http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2012/2/6/business/p5-faizah.JPG

Faizah: ‘It is a very unique concept.’

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) will be awarding the concessionaires for 225 outlets at KLIA2 by July this year for a scheduled opening in April 2013, according to senior general manager commercial services Faizah Khairuddin.

“We are currently accepting tenders for 27 outlets until Jan 26. We're doing it zone by zone and we will award by July this year because everything has to be ready for opening by April 2013. Some 500 people have expressed interest to operate at KLIA2,” Faizah told StarBiz.

Of the 225 outlets, 118 lots have been allocated for retail offerings, 81 lots for food and beverages (F&B) and 26 lots for services.

Faizah said MAHB received overwhelming response from interested parties for space at KLIA2 when it conducted a brand preview presentation for KLIA2 last month.

“We received very good response at our KLIA2 brand preview and had to limit the number of participants to 800 because the room could not accommodate more people,” she said, adding that the tender would be done in an open and transparent manner.

Faizah explained that MAHB already had an idea of what range of shops it wanted to operate at KLIA2, for example coffee-based products in certain areas. She said MAHB had set up a website (www.klia2retail.com.my) to provide all the details needed for tenderers to forecast their respective business plans.

Faizah said that apart from the airside retail outlets at KLIA2, MAHB was also working on the details for a landside mall in front of KLIA2. However, the landside mall will not be a duty-free one. She said the mall would be an integrated complex where it would be a point of convergence.

Airports are divided into landside and airside areas where the former is basically the area before immigration while the latter is the area after immigration.

“We will anchor it with retail offering. It is very a unique concept ... not just an airport. We will have both airside and landside malls for passengers,” she said.

Faizah said the landside mall would have contemporary duplexes retail offering and it would be good for its concessionaires. She said the ground floor of the outlet could be a bookstore and there would be a cafe.

“We are maximising space as part of our plan to drive our non-aeronautical revenue. KLIA2 is commercially driven,” she said.

MAHB no longer just rents out space but also supports and increases the vibrancy of its airport for concessionaires.

“Under our Runway to Success business plan, we target revenue to hit RM3bil by 2014, of which RM2bil will be contributed by non-aeronautical while the balance of RM1bil will be from aeronautical.

“Currently, non-aeronautical revenue is about 55% with the balance 45% from aeronautical,” Faizah said.

She said that in a traditional airport model, non-aeronautical revenue accounted for about 30%, with 70% from aeronautical. “We want to reverse the equation.”

Growing its commercial services such as rental of space, car park and airside transit hotel is one of the ways for MAHB to increase its non-aeronatical revenue, which has been growing in recent years.

In the financial year ended Dec 31, 2003 (FY03), MAHB's non-aeronautical revenue stood at RM486mil but it has since grown significantly to RM842mil in FY10.

According to the KLIA Aeropolis Master Plan, MAHB has identified 2,730 acres out of a total of 22,156 acres in KLIA for commercial development.

MAHB also targets to achieve RM185.5mil in property development revenue by 2014.

nazrey

February 7th, 2012, 09:42 AM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6822363509_e430e2c199_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stardex/6822363509/

nazrey

February 8th, 2012, 08:25 AM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7144/6837418767_9cebb81793_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/annurgaia/6837418767/)
LCCT (http://www.flickr.com/photos/annurgaia/6837418767/) by Annurgaia (http://www.flickr.com/people/annurgaia/), on Flickr

nazrey

February 10th, 2012, 04:26 PM

KLIA2 to feature more self-service options
Published: 2012/02/10
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/bashh/Article/#ixzz1lzcgnx2c

SEPANG: The new low-cost carrier terminal at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport, or KLIA2, will feature more self-service options for passengers to manage their travel than the current one.

This is in line with a global trend in which airports and airlines are increasingly moving towards self-service, said Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad, chief executive officer of airport operator Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB).

MAHB data shows that 65 per cent of passengers at the current low-cost carrier terminal, also in Sepang, use self-service compared with 25 per cent at the main terminal building.

"I think all airports, even airlines, are moving towards this. It saves a lot of money for us, it reduces manpower and the passengers themselves want this," he said after his keynote address at the Future Travel Experience Asia 2012 conference here, yesterday.

The self-service for passengers using KLIA2 include common-use self service kiosks and baggage drop, home-printed boarding pass and baggage tag, as well as free wifi and Internet kiosks. KLIA2 is expected to be completed in April next year.

Passengers, especially the younger and more information technology-savvy ones, want better control of their travel experience to ensure that it is hassle-free. Input from surveys and focus groups conducted by MAHB have indicated this, Bashir said.

"They really want everything at their fingertips, especially the younger ones ... and that means self-service," he remarked.

The conference, hosted by MAHB, drew some 300 executives from airport operators, airlines and technology providers around the world, focused on improving the end-to-end travel process for passengers.

Bashir felt that all airports in Asia should eventually be self-service ones. "In time to come, yes. If you have huge (passenger) traffic, then you may have problems doing this, but in the long-term, you have to."

Mike Chew, Star Alliance's director for airport services and reservations, said Asia is ready to embrace self-service.

"It's no longer a question of 'if' Asia is ready ... it's a question of how and what formula it will take. Some of the initiatives it adopts may not mirror the West," he said at a panel session on the topic.

Paul Behan, head of passenger experience at the International Air Transport Association, noted that self-service in Asia had progressed significantly over the years. "Talk that self-service is not very extensive and resisted in this region is 'nonsense'," he said.

World 2 World

February 15th, 2012, 03:55 AM

:cheers:
http://media.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2012/january2012/04/m_klia2.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5062/klia2.jpg

dengilo

February 15th, 2012, 04:53 AM

See if Tony can get a terminal almost all for himself if he try to move the operations elsewhere!:lol:

newmalayan

February 16th, 2012, 08:41 AM

:cheers:
http://media.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2012/january2012/04/m_klia2.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5062/klia2.jpg

emm, the departure hall looks simpler (and cheaper to built) than the original. ok lah for an LCCT. but no longer excited for this project. me, neutral now.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LSBdldhFe1o/TmxQMsi-cYI/AAAAAAAAGvA/NfDO-a8Z-qI/s640/klia2-model.jpg

maafcakap

February 17th, 2012, 11:43 AM

emm, the departure hall looks simpler (and cheaper to built) than the original. ok lah for an LCCT. but no longer excited for this project. me, neutral now.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LSBdldhFe1o/TmxQMsi-cYI/AAAAAAAAGvA/NfDO-a8Z-qI/s640/klia2-model.jpg

but oklah for me, it is still nice n simple :lol:

nazrey

February 19th, 2012, 03:22 PM

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http://www.panoramio.com/photo/64044560

rizalhakim

February 21st, 2012, 07:51 AM

old proposal??
http://www.behance.net/gallery/LCCT-Airport-Terminal-Kuala-Lumpur/2354202
http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles13/705722/projects/2354202/253102403a3fde59a303d651ee622d26.jpg

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http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles13/705722/projects/2354202/a3e6f0dd0c6f20fd8dbeab36938537a1.jpg

rizalhakim

February 22nd, 2012, 10:04 AM

MAHB to call for second KLIA2 outlet tender
Published: 2012/02/22

Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) will be calling for a second tender briefing for KLIA2 involving 39 lots comprising
retail, F&B and services categories on Feb 29 and March 6 respectively, at the Pan Pacific Hotel KLIA.

Tender documents can be purchased from Feb 29-March 27. The tender submission deadline for the lots is 3.00pm on Apr 3.

MAHB senior general manager, Commercial Services, Faizah Khairuddin said the concessionaires for 225 lots at the KLIA2 would be announced by July this year.

"Everything has to be ready for operations by April 2013," she told reporters today. Faizah said there would be three phases of the tender briefing, with the first having involved 27 outlets.

KLIA2 has a total retail space of 35,200 sq m on offer. -- Bernama

maafcakap

February 22nd, 2012, 12:11 PM

XNeo

February 23rd, 2012, 02:38 AM

davidwsk

February 23rd, 2012, 02:43 PM

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/2/23/business/10785918&sec=business

Thursday February 23, 2012
RM1.6b annual sales for KLIA2 retailers seenBy LEONG HUNG YEE

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB), which will start awarding concessions to retailers for KLIA2 in April, expects the concessionaires to help it achieve annual sales of RM1.6bil once the new low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT) runs at full capacity.

MAHB is currently registering annual sales of RM1.3bil from all 39 airports it operates. Of this, RM900mil is derived from sales at the KL International Airport (KLIA) in Sepang.

“We are currently evaluating tender bids for the first phase of retail concessionaires at KLIA2. We will start awarding in April.

She explained that MAHB had called for tender in January for the first of three phases, comprising 27 units, and conducted a briefing last December.

She added that MAHB was awarding the concessions on a zone-by-zone basis so that interested parties would be able to see the development of surrounding areas.

KLIA2 will have 225 outlets, comprising 118 lots for retail, 81 for food and beverage, and 26 for services. KLIA2 has a total retail space of 35,200 sq m.

Faizah said the concessions would be awarded in three phases. Briefings for the second phase, which involves 39 units at KLIA2, will be on Feb 29 and March 6.

She added that MAHB projected annual sales of RM1.6bil in five years when KLIA2 was expected to be running at full capacity of 30 million passengers a year.

The airport operator is also targeting passenger spending of RM40 per pax compared with the current RM22 at the existing LCCT.

In its first year of operation, KLIA2 is expected to generate revenue of RM180mil, including from advertising space.

Vrooms

February 29th, 2012, 02:37 PM

Singapore will be redeveloping their Budget Terminal:
Source:http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Relax/Story/A1Story20120229-330886.html
Budget Terminal to make way for new and improved terminal
AsiaOne
Wednesday, Feb 29, 2012

The Budget Terminal will be closed later this year to make way for a new and improved terminal to cater to future demand of a burgeoning budget airline industry.

Airlines operating out of the terminal will operate from the main terminals at Changi Airport.

A local news source said Tiger Airways will operate from Terminal 2, as will Berjaya Air and SEAir.

Changes have also been made at Terminal 2 to accommodate additional flights, including adjustments to aero-bridges.

Airline currently operating out of the single-storey Budget Terminal include Tiger Airways, Firefly, Berjaya Air, Cebu Pacific and Tiger Airways.

However, industry watchers told the news source that budget carriers may face higher costs if they start operating from main terminals.

Budget Terminal started operations in 2006 and was recently expanded to accommodate seven million passengers.

According to the news source, more people are using budget carriers in their travels. These flights account for 28.5 per cent of flights at Changi Airport.

It may take more than two years for the new terminal to be ready, experts told the local news source.

Vrooms

March 1st, 2012, 11:04 AM

^^more info on the above project:

source:http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_772459.html

Budget Terminal to close Sept 25, new terminal named T4
Published on Mar 1, 2012
By Royston Sim

Changi Airport Group (CAG) will close the Budget Terminal on Sept 25, and will build in its place, a larger terminal that will be named Terminal 4 (T4).

In a media release today, CAG said the existing Budget Terminal will be demolished to build a larger passenger building that can cater to continued air traffic growth at Changi Airport.

The new T4 will have a capacity of 16 million passengers per annum, more than twice the present capacity of 7 million passengers per annum.

Unlike the present Budget Terminal, T4 will have a wide choice of retail, food and beverage offerings and passenger amenities to better serve travellers' needs, said CAG.

nazrey

March 3rd, 2012, 04:32 PM

http://www.moodiereport.com/images2/KLIA_2_artist_impression_3.jpg
http://www.moodiereport.com/images2/KLIA_2_artist_impression_3.jpg

nazrey

March 3rd, 2012, 04:36 PM

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2011/august/32/klia2_1214.jpg http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2011/november2011/30/m_klia1.jpg
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2011/november2011/30/m_klia1.jpg

http://samsulsaid.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/mg_4789.jpg

http://samsulsaid.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/mg_48171.jpg
http://samsulsaid.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/klia2-low-cost-air-travel/

maafcakap

March 4th, 2012, 11:40 AM

^^more info on the above project:

source:http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_772459.html

soon klia2 need to compete with t4..

maafcakap

March 4th, 2012, 11:41 AM

patchay

March 4th, 2012, 11:45 AM

lot of work to be done...

those pics are in early November 2011.... now is March 2012

maafcakap

March 4th, 2012, 02:59 PM

those pics are in early November 2011.... now is March 2012

u must put the latest photo if u could :banana::banana:

choon

March 4th, 2012, 03:44 PM

u must put the latest photo if u could :banana::banana:

That's y i suggested before to all the picture contributer to put "taken on "the date" " ..:)

UjaiDidida

March 6th, 2012, 04:19 AM

4 days ago

Latest pic. I see dozen of cranes back there, with progressive construction.
(hope that im posting at the right thread, i dont find any open KLIA 2 thread!)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7202/6801820002_88648d3488_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wanderlust_photos/6801820002/)
2012-03-02-1147 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wanderlust_photos/6801820002/) by wanderlust_photos (http://www.flickr.com/people/wanderlust_photos/), on Flickr

nazrey

March 6th, 2012, 09:19 AM

KLIA2 on course for completion in April next year
Tuesday March 6, 2012
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/3/6/nation/10859811&sec=nation

SEPANG: The construction of KLIA2 is on schedule to meet its target completion date in April 2013, said Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (MAHB).

MAHB managing director Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad said the new low-cost terminal was now 45% completed “as per schedule”.

He was speaking to reporters after accompanying Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha on a visit to the KLIA2 construction site.

“This is the second time the Minister is visiting the site and we have updated him on the progress,” said Bashir.

The construction work for KLIA2 started in October 2009.

It is now estimated to cost be**tween RM3.6bil and RM3.9bil, at least 80% more than its provisional budget of RM2bil.

In November last year, MAHB had cited additions to the new terminal for passenger comfort as reasons for the cost increase.

These include a shopping mall, an automated baggage handling system and significant upgrades in terms of floor space, the length of runways and the number of aircraft stands at the terminal.

Currently, MAHB is in the process of calling for tender bids for the new terminal’s commercial space.

According to Bashir, the response from retailers is “very good”.

Upon completion, KLIA2 is estimated to have the capacity to serve up to 45 million passengers annually – three times the capacity of the existing LCCT.

davidwsk

March 6th, 2012, 02:50 PM

http://img.thesundaily.my/sites/default/files/imagecache/article//thesun/Catalogue/p13%20eyklia2_c313694_1236_828.jpg

More LCCs keen to operate from KLIA2, says MAHB
SEPANG (March 6, 2012): Several low-cost carriers (LCCs) have expressed interest to operate out of the new low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT) called KLIA2, which is currently 45% completed, said Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) managing director and CEO Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad.

.......

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/314017

patchay

March 6th, 2012, 03:11 PM

AirAsia asked MAHB for an "Integrated Catering Facility" at KLIA2

Woww nasi lemak supercentre is coming soon!

XNeo

March 6th, 2012, 04:23 PM

^^ low cost nasi lemak ok la...

as long they are not charge at premium price :lol:

newmalayan

March 7th, 2012, 09:22 AM

AirAsia asked MAHB for an "Integrated Catering Facility" at KLIA2

Woww nasi lemak supercentre is coming soon!

how come they demand when construction already started? why not prior to that?

CxIxMaN

March 7th, 2012, 11:44 AM

^^ When KLIA2 is completed should this thread be renamed to KLIA2 instead of LCCT or should we create a seperate thread for KLIA2 only?

nazrey

March 7th, 2012, 11:57 AM

In the world forum dia tak mau buat separate thread sebab KLIA2 guna IATA code sama ngn KLIA1...

nazrey

March 13th, 2012, 10:10 AM

MAHB to raise RM616m
Private placement price fixed at RM5.60 a share
Friday March 9, 2012

http://biz.thestar.com.my/archives/2012/3/9/business/b_pg04klia2.jpg

KLIA2 is scheduled to be completed in April 2013

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) is expected to raise RM616mil from its private placement after fixing the issue price at RM5.60 a share.

The airport operator had earlier proposed private placement of up to 110 million new ordinary shares of RM1 each, representing 10% of the company's issued and paid-up share capital, primarily to part-finance the additional capital expenditure incurred for the enhancements to its KLIA2 and also to defray expenses relating to the proposed private placement.

In a filing with Bursa Malaysia, MAHB said the issue price had been fixed at RM5.60 per placement share, representing a discount of about 0.9% to the closing market price of MAHB shares on Wednesday at RM5.65.

MAHB said its book-building exercise had been completed and had attracted domestic and foreign investors.

Maybank Investment Bank and JPMorgan Securities (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd are the joint placement agents for the private placement.

In an earlier filing, MAHB said this private placement would allow the company to meet its obligations in connection with the construction of KLIA2 and, at the same time, maintain the fast-track nature of the construction of the low-cost carrier terminal, which is scheduled to be completed in April 2013.

The construction work for KLIA2 started in October 2009.

It is now estimated to cost between RM3.6bil and RM3.9bil, at least 80% more than its provisional budget of RM2bil.

The increase in size and cost would cater to an expected 45 million passengers.

MAHB's shares fell 3 sen to RM5.62 yesterday. The counter reached a one-month high of RM5.85 on Feb 22.

An analyst said the price drop was due to the private placement announcement as the exercise would dilute MAHB earnings per share. He added that the proceeds from the private placement would reduce the company's gearing level although it would dilute the shareholding of major shareholders.

However, the analyst was positive about the long-term prospects of the KLIA2 development.

Hong Leong Research said MAHB's earnings would be diluted 4.6% for the current financial year ending Dec 31 (FY12) and up to 9.1% for FY13 based on an assumed price of RM5.44 per placement share announced previously.