View Full Version : Are Howard policies affecting tourism numbers?


barneybuck
July 22nd, 2004, 12:07 AM
Thoughts?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/21/1090089218706.html?from=storylhs


How the goss is dimming the gloss
July 22, 2004

Room to move ... with Australia's international tourism numbers down, these visitors in Sydney yesterday could be forgiven for thinking they had landed on their own lonely planet. Photo: Peter Morris


Love the country, not sure about those policies ... the Australian tourism industry is increasingly sensitive to the actions of the Government, writes Brigid Delaney.

For a country so hungry for praise, it stings if tourists stop visiting because of the perception that Australia is racist. Trekking in Nepal, "up endless hills" the Lonely Planet travel publishing company's co-founder, Tony Wheeler, was walking behind a group of young British tourists. "A woman in the group was saying what a racist country Australia was and they all agreed," he says.

Tim Clelland, an Australian lawyer living in London, says he has had to counter the perception that "we don't treat Aboriginals very well and we lock up refugees in the desert".

On Monday the debate entered a wider arena when a court in London, which is considering whether the British Government must consider asylum applications from people who present themselves at consulates, heard evidence into conditions at Woomera detention centre.

The court was told: "The disturbing state of Australian detention centres was so well documented that when British officials sent two boys seeking asylum away from the consulate in Melbourne they were knowingly casting them into a place of mental and physical abuse."

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And in a recent article in The Spectator magazine, the English journalist Matthew Parris observed strained race relations in Australia. "Near Wollongong an Aboriginal man boarded our train. The carriage was full of white Australians who looked up as he fumbled at the door," he wrote.

"'Look,' whispered a schoolgirl behind me to her friends, 'he doesn't know how to open the door!' He didn't, but finally succeeded, lurched in and sat down. He was drunk. He smelt. A sort of horror ran around the carriage. It was as if they had all seen Banquo's ghost."

What others think of us - and our Government's policies - directly affect visitor numbers, says Wheeler. And the worse our image is overseas the less visitors are inclined to come here.

Tourists, particularly from Britain and Europe, could potentially be turned off coming to Australia because of our immigration policies, he says.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics released figures last week showing a decline in overseas visitors in May, and Wheeler considers Australia's immigration policy was a factor.

"We've created a lot of bad publicity for ourselves worldwide," Wheeler says. "We've gone out there turning ships around; you see that book by the captain of the Tampa in every bookshop in Scandinavia. It's as big a negative effect as you can possibly ask for."

Although Australia's peak tourist body, Tourism Australia, disagrees, arguing there is a lack of statistics supporting Wheeler's assertion, the issue was raised by the Federal Government last year when an internal report said tourists were visiting New Zealand rather than Australia. This was, the report said, partly due to our poor international image, stemming from immigration and refugee policies and the Tampa crisis. It said Australia's image was perceived to be racist.

David Fickling wrote in The Guardian last year: "Australia, once the lucky country, is now better recognised as the unfriendly island, always offering the cold shoulder to outsiders ... It's a picture which has become so widespread overseas that - according to one internal government report - tourists have already started spurning Australia for the seemingly more benevolent destination of New Zealand."

Christopher Brown, the CEO of Tourism & Transport Forum, is aware of the negative perceptions. For a country that was once global tourism's golden child, there are jitters in the industry whenever Australia's reputation is attacked abroad, he says.

"We certainly brought to the Federal Government's attention during One Nation [the emergence of the political party] that social policies do have an impact commercially. We need to be mindful of social matters."

Negative social policies can hurt Australia's "brand", Brown argues - and that can hurt business. "There are problems with the brand being tarnished. Australia was on the front page of [France's] Le Monde with a condemnation of the Tampa crisis. There have been protests in Japan over logging of our old growth forests in Tasmania. We've seen the world is aware of us," he says.

He says the forum has written to the Prime Minister, John Howard, with concerns about logging in Tasmania. "We need to go beyond the brochure," he says. "We've written to him saying these things resonate around the world. Particularly in the German and North American markets, where they care about the environment they holiday in."

This type of tourist is becoming desirable in Australia, says Brown. "[Joe] Hockey is trying to take the market away from cheap, packaged holidays. It's a risk - but an acceptable risk. When you chase the lucrative platinum market with more independent, well-heeled customers, these customers think more of the issues of destinations. They will be thinking about values."

But Brown is unconvinced that negative perceptions about Australia have financially impacted on the tourist industry - even among the more politically savvy backpacker crowd.

Guest arrivals in hostels have recorded an increase of 21.9 per cent since 2000, according to the latest (June) Survey of Tourism Accommodation. And since 2000 the number of working holiday visas granted has increased by 19.2 per cent.

Tourism Australia is also optimistic, saying that if the bureau's statistics on visitor numbers are seasonally adjusted, things do not look as grim. Its figures show that 2.1 million people have visited Australia so far this year, up 14 per cent from the same time last year.

Ken Boundy, the managing director of Tourism Australia, says: "People have not turned off coming to Australia. We have more than our fair share in global growth due to consistent marketing of this country and a pent-up global demand for tourism."

So what are we worried about?

Wheeler is still not convinced that Australian tourism has recovered since the SARS crisis and the intensified threat of global of terrorism.

Sales of Lonely Planet's Australia book, once the company's best seller, have slipped, a sign that the country has become a bit on the nose as a destination, Wheeler says.

But unlike terrorist violence and the spread of disease, he says Australia's perception abroad is something we may be able to control: "There are other factors, such as the Australian dollar appreciating and regional concerns, such an Indonesia, which affect visitor numbers, but immigration policies can't be overlooked. There is an election coming up."

A hot seller now at Lonely Planet is the New Zealand guide.

Says Wheeler: "New Zealand is having a real run at the moment. It's because of a whole bunch of factors including Lord of the Rings, but they've not joined in the madness of Iraq. When we were shipping people off to Nauru, New Zealand was saying, 'We'll have them'."

Brown admits New Zealand is catching up to Australia as a tourist destination. "For 20 years they have been chasing us and now they've done it," he says.

In 2001 a study showed visitors to New Zealand had increased by 6.7 per cent while those to Australia fell by 1.5 per cent. In the first eight months of 2002, arrivals in New Zealand rose by 4.1 per cent; Australia recorded a drop of 5 per cent.

If that's Government policy or just the passing of the tourist torch to the next golden child, we don't know.

But Brown warns: "It's in the long-term commercial and long-term moral interests for tourism to do the best thing socially and for the environment. The world is watching."

Aussie Bhoy
July 22nd, 2004, 10:29 AM
There seems to be no limit to the left wing slanted rubbish that the SMH will print.

They should just re-name it the Socialist Morning Herald and be done with it.

Talk about pushing an agenda to death.

MILIUX
July 22nd, 2004, 12:39 PM
SMH is a good newspaper. The Australian is damn conservative while Daily Telegraph is just a left wing tabloid.

jacobsian
July 22nd, 2004, 01:38 PM
SMH is a good newspaper. The Australian is damn conservative while Daily Telegraph is just a left wing tabloid.

You've never posted anything on this forum that makes me think you're anything BUT "damn conservative" ?

hornetfig
July 22nd, 2004, 02:29 PM
Interesting, I don't read the Telegraph, except on Sunday [TV Guide, you know...] and I'd call it right wing then... But then again, a lot of The Australian columnists write in it.

MrTall
July 22nd, 2004, 02:49 PM
There seems to be no limit to the left wing slanted rubbish that the SMH will print.

They should just re-name it the Socialist Morning Herald and be done with it.

Talk about pushing an agenda to death.

Spot-on. The ALP doesn't need to put out an advertisement for the next election.....the smh is taking care of that.

Randwicked
July 22nd, 2004, 02:54 PM
Spot-on. The ALP doesn't need to put out an advertisement for the next election.....the smh is taking care of that.

The SMH endorsed Howard in 2001.

Mr MacPhisto
July 25th, 2004, 01:54 PM
The author really is clutching at straws.

It's a joke to suggest that tourists shying away from Australia due to the Tampa could in any way compare with an increase in tourist numbers due to the publicity afforded New Zealand by way of Lord of the Rings.


"Near Wollongong an Aboriginal man boarded our train. The carriage was full of white Australians who looked up as he fumbled at the door," he wrote.

"'Look,' whispered a schoolgirl behind me to her friends, 'he doesn't know how to open the door!' He didn't, but finally succeeded, lurched in and sat down. He was drunk. He smelt. A sort of horror ran around the carriage. It was as if they had all seen Banquo's ghost."


Does this prove anything? I for one will not go out of my way to help an intoxicated individual (unless they are at risk of injury or death).

So a little girl was amazed that a grown man couldn't open a door.
Gee, Australian's must be racist.

So people were turned off by the presence of a foul smelling intoxicated individual.
Obviously a bunch of racists.

I tell you what Mr Parris, I have a story for you.
A plumber I know was working on a shitty job in the centre of town one day whan an intoxicated Aboriginal stumbled out of the pub across the street. As he walked past the plumber he turned to him and said "That's right brother, you keep a workin and I'll keep a drinkin your taxes".
The plumber was surprised, bemused and a little pissed off.
Obviously another racist White Australian.

MILIUX
July 27th, 2004, 08:28 AM
You've never posted anything on this forum that makes me think you're anything BUT "damn conservative" ?

That's a generalisation. Yes, overall I'm a conservative but i'm more of a semi-rationalist.

Anyhow, Australia is a conservative nation...

Randwicked
July 27th, 2004, 09:40 AM
Anyhow, Australia is a conservative nation...

Compared to where?

MILIUX
July 27th, 2004, 10:33 AM
Well statistically votors usually vote for the Liberals in good economic times and for the bad....Labour.

Jimmy James
July 27th, 2004, 02:34 PM
It pisses me off that people are thinking of bending over and taking it up the ass to appease a few haughty hikers in the himalayas who all agree that a country is racist when it is more inclusive and welcoming to others than 99.9 percent of the other nations on earth! I'd like to see them take a holiday in the Middle East, Parts of Asia or Europe and see how others are treated there!

If decisions are taken regarding asylum seekers or Aboriginal policies then they should be for our own reasons and NOT to look good for the tourists.

Also what business are Australia's policies to a bunch of knobs in horsehair wigs on the otherside of the world? I am insenced :(

tayser
July 27th, 2004, 03:00 PM
There seems to be no limit to the left wing slanted rubbish that the SMH will print.

But it's such a nice break from all the truly spectacular journalism [dry sarcasm] printed in all the shaz and baz Vote Liberal 1 publications everywhere else in Australia.

And don't be too quick to blame it on the little red flag with regards to the SMH or especially The Age - they're more liberal in the true sense of the word than you think. And it's best not to confuse the two very different idealogies.

Syd-Hk
July 28th, 2004, 02:54 PM
Well most newpapers do talk BS anyway...

Randwicked
July 28th, 2004, 03:09 PM
But it's such a nice break from all the truly spectacular journalism [dry sarcasm] printed in all the shaz and baz Vote Liberal 1 publications everywhere else in Australia.

And don't be too quick to blame it on the little red flag with regards to the SMH or especially The Age - they're more liberal in the true sense of the word than you think. And it's best not to confuse the two very different idealogies.

I agree with that. The SMH especially is quite traditional liberal, or libertarian. They're very pro-business. Nothing left about them.

kota16
July 28th, 2004, 04:17 PM
I would say the SMH and Melbourne Age, are two of the best newspapers in the world. Not just Australia.

Aussie Bhoy
July 28th, 2004, 05:07 PM
They are left wing, some of the stuff is straight from the Guardian in England.

I have just noticed that in today's edition, in a story about the Olympic women's swimming team they have even managed to tie it in with Whitlam "It's Time" in 1972.

http://www.smh.com.au/olympics/articles/2004/07/28/1090694031056.html

"Australia hasn't had such a powerful women's swimming team since 1972 when Gough Whitlam was swept to power with the famous "It's Time" slogan.

But Libby Lenton and her teammates flew out of Australia today hoping "It's Time" for another strong showing by the nation's women in an Olympic pool."

Maybe there is a SMH memo about getting a positive ALP message into every story.

kota16
July 28th, 2004, 06:19 PM
Only one journalists viewpoint, which is water under the bridge. I recall the Duke of Edinburgh praising both papers when he was here once, saying they were far better than anything in the UK.

Dale
July 28th, 2004, 09:09 PM
They are left wing, some of the stuff is straight from the Guardian in England.

I have just noticed that in today's edition, in a story about the Olympic women's swimming team they have even managed to tie it in with Whitlam "It's Time" in 1972.

http://www.smh.com.au/olympics/articles/2004/07/28/1090694031056.html

"Australia hasn't had such a powerful women's swimming team since 1972 when Gough Whitlam was swept to power with the famous "It's Time" slogan.

But Libby Lenton and her teammates flew out of Australia today hoping "It's Time" for another strong showing by the nation's women in an Olympic pool."

Maybe there is a SMH memo about getting a positive ALP message into every story.


Much in the same way the American press gets a gratuitous reference to Abu Grhaib into every story.

Tony P
July 29th, 2004, 10:37 AM
Maybe during the Olympics when some guys face is shoved into another guys arse in the wrestling competition, the SMH can post a relevant article about John Howard and George Bush, to balance it out a little...

Woor20
July 29th, 2004, 10:41 AM
There seems to be no limit to the left wing slanted rubbish that the SMH will print.

They should just re-name it the Socialist Morning Herald and be done with it.

Talk about pushing an agenda to death.

Haha...that's a good one Aussie Bhoy. I really that they should re-name the Sydney Morning Herald to the Socialist Mourning Herald.

tayser
July 29th, 2004, 11:41 AM
They are left wing, some of the stuff is straight from the Guardian in England.


Maybe you're just far too right-wing (for your own good) and anything you view which has a social liberal context is perceived as being left-wing? Most likely! As I alluded to earlier, social democratic / labour movements and liberalism (social and economic) are quite different, best to read up on the differences before slandering SMH / AGE as left-wing papers.

Might I suggest this book:

"Government, Politics, Power and Policy in Australia 7th edition" (http://library.monash.edu.au/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=1&ti=1,1&SAB1=073399900X&BOOL1=all+of+these&FLD1=ISBN+%28ISBN%29&CNT=10&PID=15725&SEQ=20040729194208&SID=1)
Edited by:
John Summers (Flinders University)
Dennis Woodward (Monash University)
Andrew Parkin (Flinders University)
Published by Longman, Frenchs Forest NSW 2002.
ISBN: 0 7339 9900 X

after reading all / majority of the relevant chapters which discuss these concepts well enough for you to gain a better understanding, you'll see where the SHM and AGE lie with regards to their editorial and general political persuasions.

Aussie Bhoy
July 29th, 2004, 12:26 PM
No, I just know right from wrong. My background is from a strong labor supporting family, I just don't see them as the working mans party anymore. And I don't like a newspaper to push any agenda, I want them to just report the news without bias. Anyone following the SMH at the moment can easily see the push they are giving towards Latham and the ALP.

Some descriptions of the newspapers mentioned from wikipedia.

SMH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Morning_Herald

The Age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age

the Guardian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian

tayser
July 29th, 2004, 12:58 PM
And I don't like a newspaper to push any agenda, I want them to just report the news without bias.

were you born yesterday or something? Papers have been pushing agendas for at least 150 years:

http://150.theage.com.au/images/150_masthead.gif (http://150.theage.com.au/)

The Story of The Age

When The Age was first published almost 150 years ago its founding fathers had a vision of bringing world-class news to the people of Victoria. Today, the newspaper's coverage of Victoria's news is not only world-class but through The Age Online site it is accessible to the world.

The Age was launched during the turmoil of Victoria's gold rush era, when the fledgling colony was populated by miners seeking their fortunes. There was unrest among the diggers who were calling for the abolition of the gold licence and the Eureka Stockade rebellion was brewing.

The first owners of The Age were brothers John and Henry Cooke, who ran a merchant company, Francis Cooke and Co. They supported the miners' movement and announced that their new publication would advocate "the removal of all restrictions upon freedom of commerce, freedom of religion and … freedom of personal action".

The Age, a competitor to the Argus and the Morning Herald, would be 'a journal of politics, commerce and philanthropy, dedicated to the record of great movements, the advocacy of free institutions, the diffusion of truth and the advancement of man''. They vowed it would be as good as the newspapers of London. <-- you cannot get anymore liberal than that paragraph, full stop.

The Cooke brothers launched their paper on October 17, 1854. The first issues sold for sixpence and were filled with news of the latest gold rush and shipping arrivals. The advertisements were for ladies' riding habits, agricultural implements, free passage to Van Dieman's Land and 50 acres of land at Brighton.

For the rest of the article: http://150.theage.com.au/story.asp
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bias / editorial line changes with different owners and of course editors, and most recently as with the SMH taking on more tabloid-like stories like trashy / celebrity-centred pieces that are inescapable on their webiste, they evolve in ways some people don't like. Left-wing papers? hardly.

Aussie Bhoy
July 29th, 2004, 01:39 PM
In the UK papers are much more politically biased, follow the link I gave you for the Guardian and also look at other right-wing tory type papers. I read a lot papers and I prefer the Australian style which is much more neutral. Recently the SMH (I don't read the Age, but they are both Fairfax papers) has become very pro-Labor and also very liberal (not the party) in it's style and editorial content. Maybe that is why it struggles to match sales with the Daily Telegraph.

The best newspaper in the UK is the Metro, and you get that for free on public transport. It is the least biased by far and that's why I like it.

You have your opinion on this and I have mine, let's leave it at that.

ParraMan
July 29th, 2004, 10:12 PM
Although it is absolutely true that both the SMH and Daily Telegraph are far better than the majority of their english counterparts, they do still manage to put a political spin on everything, and this is simply more noticeable when approaching elections. I regularly read the smh.com.au website and have found that their style of reporting is not that different to that of during the last federal election, or indeed in the lead up to previous state elections- ie putting a positive spin on the ALP. The Telegraph I find seems to put the positive spin on the Coalition. But I do wish they would all just report the facts, and all the facts.

As for the tourism stuff (getting back on track of course), the problems alluded to in the article, are fairly well recognised here in Europe, however you will find that (especially among the better-educated) Europeans in general don't see Australians as racist, as they see the same type of situations occurring all around the world, and especially within Europe. The media I've found tends to report these things as negatives, which may or may not be the case, however they fail to report or give adequate presentation, of the positives. As for the Lonely Planet info, in June 2004, "Australia" was still the 3rd most popular publication, after NZ 1st, and Europe on a Shoestring 2nd, 4th and 5th were French Phrasebook and Thailand followed by Tasmania. I don't see that as much of a problem, when Lonely Planet has soooooo many publications...

Billy the Kid
August 2nd, 2004, 03:12 AM
No, I just know right from wrong. My background is from a strong labor supporting family, I just don't see them as the working mans party anymore. And I don't like a newspaper to push any agenda, I want them to just report the news without bias. Anyone following the SMH at the moment can easily see the push they are giving towards Latham and the ALP.

Some descriptions of the newspapers mentioned from wikipedia.

SMH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Morning_Herald

The Age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age

the Guardian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian

So you dont reckon all the News Corps rags including the "quality" Australian are not pushing Howards agenda???
Maybe it has something to do with the deal our current sleasy little PM has done with Kerry and Ruphert and that Mark Latham is suggesting a fourth TV channel.
All the Australian media push their own interests first and give favour to the party that will give them an advantage.They are only public companies after all and have no reason to be anymore ethical or moral than any capitalist based group.
So much for "unbiased "reporting.