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vdogg
March 2nd, 2005, 06:23 PM
Below is a very good article detailing Trader Publishing companies reasons behind moving to downtown Norfolk. This building will break ground in just under 2 weeks. I'll post more info in this thread as it becomes availiable.:cool:

http://newsobserver.com/news/story/2166304p-8547721c.html

Published: Feb 28, 2005
Modified: Feb 28, 2005 6:33 PM

Norfolk turns worker-friendly

The USS Wisconsin, a World War II battleship, is docked at the end of Plume Street on Norfolk's downtown. On the right is Trader Publishing Co.'s current building. The expanding company thinks younger workers like working downtown.
Staff Photos by Sher Stoneman

By RICHARD STRADLING, Staff Writer

NORFOLK, Va. -- Trader Publishing Co.'s search for a place to build a new headquarters for its Internet division came down to a choice between suburban Virginia Beach and downtown Norfolk.
Twenty years ago, that would have been an easy call. Empty lots, vacant storefronts and office buildings that cleared out at night formed a patchwork at the center of Norfolk, an old seaport and Navy town in southeastern Virginia. Cathy Coleman, head of the city's downtown booster group, looked out her window on her first days on the job in 1983 and watched drug dealers and prostitutes doing business on the street.

The view from Coleman's office has changed, and so has the equation for companies such as Trader Publishing as they decide where to put their workers. Decades of aggressive demolition and redevelopment by the city have made downtown Norfolk a hub of shopping and entertainment and a hot place to live. Employers who want more than a sterile office park are taking note.

Trader Publishing chose downtown Norfolk because it wanted to put its Internet division in a place that would help attract and keep talented employees. The company's president and CEO, Conrad Hall, figured that workers would rather be in a lively downtown than "stuck in a cul-de-sac out in the woods."

"Look at who's downtown on nights and weekends," Hall said. "It's the young people we want working for us."

Cities such as Norfolk, Raleigh and Durham long counted on government agencies, banks and law firms to remain downtown even as stores and people left. But Norfolk shows that Triangle cities can attract new employers to their cores by creating the right urban ambience.

Trader plans to break ground this spring on a 20-story building on Granby Street, Norfolk's old commercial center, near restaurants and nightspots with such names as Guadalajara City Cafe, Domo Sushi and Blue Hippo.

The new building will eventually house 1,600 workers. The company, which publishes more than 735 magazines and trade papers nationwide, will continue to occupy a seven-story building across the street.

In some ways, Hall, 61, is a classic downtown booster, a Norfolk native proud of his city. He's the kind of homegrown CEO that cities lose when banks merge and family-owned businesses are swallowed by large corporations.

But Hall doesn't talk like a hopeful civic salesman simply doing his part to bring downtown back. Downtown is back, he says, and his company will benefit from being there.

A vote of confidence

A new $55 million office tower and all those workers are great news, said Coleman, who heads the Downtown Norfolk Council. But even more important was Trader's endorsement of downtown.

"It's sending a strong message about downtown being a place that employees want to work," she said. "They could have gone anywhere."

Others are coming too. This month, Maersk Line, Ltd., a shipping company, announced it will move its headquarters from suburban Norfolk to three floors in a downtown tower, enough space for about 200 workers. The main draw, said David Sloane, who is overseeing the move, was a good environment for workers.

"There's just so much for them to do down there, especially compared to where we are now," Sloane said.

Dave Willman moved his company, Stratum Marketing, from a nearby neighborhood to a sidewalk-level office on Main Street last year. He figured the added exposure was worth the much higher rent. It also turned out to be a good move for him and his six employees.

"Once I pull into my parking garage in the morning, the rest of my day is spent walking," said Willman, 45. "Four of my best accounts, I walk to their meetings or they come to my office."

The 12 percent vacancy rate for downtown office space matches the region as a whole, said Don Crigger, senior director of office properties for Advantis Real Estate Services Co. But the decision by Maersk and others to move downtown will soon bring the rate down to single digits, he said.

"There's a good strong future for downtown," he said.

Developer Bobby Wright has renovated several old brick and stone buildings downtown and says all 87,000 square feet of office space he owns are occupied.

Wright, who also runs a brokerage, said new clubs and restaurants have created a "cool factor" that attracts companies. His tenants include a firm that designs online games, a wireless Internet provider and the publisher of an alternative weekly newspaper.

"In the early '90s, we had to beg, borrow and steal to get people to even entertain the idea of moving downtown," Wright said. "Now, they call us."

Downtown declines

Norfolk's harbors and brackish rivers helped make it a shipping hub and naval center. During Granby Street's last heyday, in the 1940s and '50s, white-clad sailors popped in and out of department stores, theaters and restaurants. Today, a faded sign on the brick wall of the old House of Hofflin clothing store advertises "Sailor Suits Made to Order."

Granby Street later became a place sailors got into trouble, in bars and X-rated movie theaters. After the department stores decamped for the suburbs, the city turned the street into a pedestrian mall in 1976 -- one year before Raleigh did the same with Fayetteville Street.

But Norfolk officials realized the pedestrian mall wasn't helping and reopened the street to traffic by the late 1980s. That gesture, though, paled in comparison with the city's aggressive steps to redevelop downtown.

The city's housing and redevelopment agency acquired blighted buildings, tore them down, then courted developers with loans and grants to build apartments, office buildings and hotels. At one point in the 1980s, the redevelopment agency owned about two-thirds of all the land downtown.

By the mid-1990s, the downtown waterfront, on the Elizabeth River, was lined with a marina, an arcade of shops and restaurants, a hotel and conference center, the Nauticus maritime museum and a park that hosted concerts and festivals. Yet a few blocks inland, Granby Street remained quiet.

Then the city put together a blockbuster deal: It persuaded The Taubman Co. to build a downtown shopping mall, by providing 20 acres and $100 million in loans and direct spending, about a third of the project's cost. Nordstrom and Dillard's agreed to anchor the mall.

It was a controversial move. Some feared the mall would be a boondoggle. Others argued that a 1.2-million-square-foot box in the middle of downtown would smother the life that was returning to nearby streets. Still others thought the government shouldn't subsidize selected retailers; area J.C. Penney stores quit the local chamber of commerce after it endorsed the project.

Today, many credit the mall, along with a community college campus that opened on Granby Street in 1997, with sparking the revival. The mall averages 1 million shoppers a month, according to Mayor Paul Fraim; and about a third of them venture beyond its walls.

The city redevelopment agency now owns only a few downtown lots, and developers come up with projects on their own. In the works: Harbor Heights, a 15-story building with offices, condos and downtown's first grocery store; and Granby Towers, which would put 400 condos in two buildings of 15 and 25 stories.

Few of Trader Publishing's downtown workers live downtown, but Hall expects that could change as developers build more apartments and condos. The company will put bicycle racks in some parking spaces for workers who bike to work, he said.

Bill Candler's walking commute to Trader takes him along the Elizabeth River, through a park and past the USS Wisconsin, a World War II-era battleship berthed at Nauticus. Sometimes he stops for dinner or a beer on Granby Street on his way home, a condo near the waterfront.

Candler, 63, who edits a trade publication for the towing industry, still needs a car, especially to go grocery shopping. His Dodge Caravan was stolen once, and it took him a couple of days to realize it.

"That comes from living downtown," he said, "because I don't use my car very much."

Competing bids

When Trader Publishing opens its new building, it will move hundreds of workers to downtown Norfolk from an office park in nearby Virginia Beach, the state's largest city. The five-story Virginia Beach office, clad in reflective glass, overlooks a freeway next to a pond surrounded with benches where people can eat lunch.

In reality, though, most people eat at their desks or get in their cars at lunchtime, said Rick Murchake, vice president of Trader Web Services.

"You've got to hop in your car to get hot, fast, mediocre food," said Murchake, 45.

Virginia Beach officials had hoped Trader Publishing would remain in the city and build its new offices there. Virginia Beach has no downtown, but the city is attempting to build one called The Town Center, on a new grid of streets across from a mall. City officials offered to build Trader a parking garage if the company built there, Hall said.

But Hall said no. He thinks The Town Center is a good idea but says the 10-lane boulevards that lead to it are already clogged.

"The traffic there is just awful, absolutely awful," he said.

Norfolk also put together an incentive package, including a city-owned lot worth about $2.5 million. Hall insists the Norfolk incentives just about offset the higher cost of building a downtown tower and didn't swing his decision.

Hall will keep his office in Trader's current building in downtown Norfolk, "a fortress of a structure" built in 1907. The company had 12 employees when it arrived in 1989, and slowly expanded as other tenants left.

Now Trader employees hold meetings in nearby coffee shops and over lunch, or walk down to the waterfront to brainstorm or clear their heads. That atmosphere is good for business, Hall says, and that's why the company decided to bring more people downtown.

"I just feel our folks are going to be more productive," he said. "The neighborhood becomes an extension of our work environment."

Staff writer Richard Stradling can be reached at 829-4739 or rstradli@newsobserver.com.

© Copyright 2005, The News & Observer Publishing Company,
a subsidiary of The McClatchy Company

willy
March 2nd, 2005, 06:58 PM
This article helps us all see that the Town Center is light years behind downtown Norfolk.

Hey, it's 21 stories not 20.

It's also kinda cool that a Raleigh newspaper is writing about us.

vdogg
March 2nd, 2005, 09:10 PM
This article helps us all see that the Town Center is light years behind downtown Norfolk.


This is true but they just started building towncenter. Its gonna be behind for quite sometime but give it a chance, it'll catch up.

willy
March 2nd, 2005, 10:05 PM
Oh I'm giving it a chance. Remember, I live here and wish nothing but the best from this project. It's just that after hearing what Mr. Hall had to say it kind of makes you realize that Norfolk is on an entirely different page...and maybe even a different book than the Town Center.

The company's president and CEO, Conrad Hall, figured that workers would rather be in a lively downtown than "stuck in a cul-de-sac out in the woods." If only we could get more CEO's to think like this.

vdogg
March 3rd, 2005, 02:06 AM
www.residencesatwestin.com is back up but there has been no new information added. I honestly don't know what they've been doing for 2 weeks. It even still has the old rendering up.

okinawatyphoon
March 3rd, 2005, 04:24 AM
This building will break ground in just under 2 weeks. I'll post more info in this thread as it becomes availiable.

Where did you find out that it is breaking ground in two weeks?

The company's president and CEO, Conrad Hall, figured that workers would rather be in a lively downtown than "stuck in a cul-de-sac out in the woods."

LOL. that is pretty harsh, but true.

vdogg
March 3rd, 2005, 04:51 AM
Where did you find out that it is breaking ground in two weeks?


I'm going by info in a previous article that gave the groundbreaking date as mid march.

vdogg
March 3rd, 2005, 05:07 AM
Keep in mind that the new TCC building also breaks ground this month. Also, we should**crosses fingers** finally hear something this month about the Hilton. Its gonna be a very busy month for Norfolk.

vdogg
March 3rd, 2005, 05:11 AM
This article helps us all see that the Town Center is light years behind downtown Norfolk.

Hey, it's 21 stories not 20.

It's also kinda cool that a Raleigh newspaper is writing about us.

Norfolks revival has been getting nationwide attention. Its about damn time people started recognizing this city for what it is.

vdogg
March 3rd, 2005, 05:15 AM
Portsmouth is commissioning a firm to study redevelopment possibilities in its Olde Towne area. One of the sites is the Federal parking lot on High Street between Water and Crawford Sts. The area is adjacent to the bustling High Street antique and restaurant district as well as High Street Landing (water inlet served by HRT pedestrian ferries).

I've had my eye on this property for years. What do you guys think will become of it? IMO it would be best used as a highrise condominium with ground floor retail/restaurant space. The ground floor activity will bring High Street's vibrance to the waterfront and the residences will be ideal for Norfolk commuters who can hop on a ferry directly across the street!

Also it could be a small park. High St landing was built several years ago where a park once existed. It would provide a nice gathering/events place for a city that has been developing all of its open space.

Opinions?


Thats an excellent idea. Portsmouths complimentary skyline is one of this areas best assets but they could do so much more with it. I imagine a string of highrise condos (ala Miami) all up and down the coast. Just imagine living on the top floor of one of those condos and having downtown Norfolks skyline
against the water as your view. People would pay top dollar for that.

okinawatyphoon
March 3rd, 2005, 10:58 AM
Thats an excellent idea. Portsmouths complimentary skyline is one of this areas best assets but they could do so much more with it. I imagine a string of highrise condos (ala Miami) all up and down the coast. Just imagine living on the top floor of one of those condos and having downtown Norfolks skyline

I've always liked having Portsmouth's skyline pretty close to Norfolk's. I think it looks really cool to have two downtowns across the water from each other. I also think its a great idea to have some high-rise condos in Portmouth. maybe some 15-20 story ones. it would look quite cool IMO.

lammius
March 3rd, 2005, 07:00 PM
I think they could go taller than that over there. They've already got a few 18-25 story residential buildings. Why not push the envelope?

vdogg
March 4th, 2005, 09:24 AM
So I guess the highrise Marriott hotel broke ground last week and nobody bothered to tell us, but this is really good news for NN. It looks like they may be trying to give Norfolk and Va. Beach a run for their money with all this new development :) .

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=83012&ran=203446
Newport News sees two key developments

By BATTINTO BATTS, The Virginian-Pilot
© March 4, 2005

NEWPORT NEWS — Northwestern Mutual has become an equity investor in the City Center at Oyster Point development.

The Milwaukee-based life insurance company has agreed to spend $42 million to partner with HL Development Group of Norfolk, the developer of the 53-acre project in the northeastern area of the city near Interstate 64.

Click here The four-phase project is a public-private partnership between Newport News Town Center LLC and the economic development authority of Newport News. It is being developed over 10 years and will have attracted $350 million in investment when completed.

HL Development, a division of NAI Harvey Lindsay, had been looking for an equity partner in the project, according to Harvey L. Lindsay Jr., chairman of the real estate company. The company chose Northwestern with the help of a financial adviser, Lindsay said.

Northwestern’s equity interest involves two parts of the project: The completed first phase of the development, which includes 320,000 square feet of Class A office and retail space and 360 apartments together valued at $90 million, and the second phase, which includes more office and retail space.

Northwestern Mutual is one of the nation’s largest institutional owners of real estate investments, with more than $25 billion. It also has a real estate equity portfolio that exceeds $6.3 billion and a range of other real estate investments.

“It’s a pretty good statement to get Northwestern Mutual interested in Hampton Roads,” said William A. Hudgins, president and chief executive officer of HL Development Group. “It says a lot about the strength and diversity of the Hampton Roads market. We are much more attractive to the institutional players today than at any point in our history.”

The announcement of the partnership with Northwestern comes a week after the ground breaking on a $58 million Marriott Hotel and conference center in the development.

That project is a joint venture between Armada Hoffler, which will build the hotel, Crestline Hotels and Resorts Inc., which will run it, and Hampton University, which will provide financing.

The complex, designed by CMSS Architects PC of Virginia Beach, will have 256 guest rooms and 23,000 square feet of meeting space.

Reach Battinto Batts at 446-2642 or at battinto.batts@pilotonline.com

vdogg
March 4th, 2005, 07:18 PM
http://www.dailypress.com/news/yahoo/dp-69121sy0feb21,0,2810937.story?coll=dp-aol-yahoo-nws-hed
New urbanism taking to streets
City and county planners like the high property values; residents like the convenience.


BY KEITH RUSHING
247-7870

February 21, 2005

NEWPORT NEWS -- Patrice Stein was living in a spacious suburban house with her husband a few years ago, but something was missing.

When she saw Port Warwick - a mixed-use, 150-acre development of brick homes, condos and apartments, and shops centered around a three-acre square - she had an "a-ha" moment.

"It was a fabulous community," Stein said. "I said ah, this is it. This is what's missing."

She found the friendly urban-style neighborhood she'd been looking for in Newport News' Oyster Point area.

"You see people walking the dogs. And you stop and talk to people. There's such a variety of businesses," Stein said.

The largest green area, William Styron Square, is named after the Pulitzer Prize-winning writer from Newport News. The complex has smaller squares and public statues commissioned by the developer. There are shops where you can get coffee, beer or wine, and restaurants where you can get a sandwich or dinner.

Stein said Port Warwick reminded her and her husband of growing up in the city, and of the villages she visited in Europe.

"I grew up in a circle. He grew up on a square," she said. "We wanted to live in the inner city."

She, her husband and their 7-year-old son live in a spacious condominium above the store she owns, Beck & Stein books. Stein plans to open a bed-and-breakfast in an adjacent condominium.

NEW URBANISM

Port Warwick was the harbinger of a new trend in residential developments in Hampton Roads. More and more of these mixed-use, or "new urbanist," developments are springing up throughout the country, said Dan Rodriguez, a professor at the University of North Carolina's Department of City and Regional Planning.

New urbanism emerged in the late 1980s when architects and developers began looking for ways to create alternatives to suburban sprawl, Rodriguez said. The concept incorporates smaller lots, sidewalks, narrow streets and a mix of offices and stores, often around green spaces.

The idea is to create urban communities where people can walk to work, a store or restaurant rather than rely on their cars.

"They (architects and developers) are trying to bring back an urban America - bringing together some of the suburban elements we like," Rodriguez said, adding that the homes in these communities will often have larger rooms and plenty of green space.

Although they are an effort to create an urban environment, these new communities are generally built in more suburban areas where large plots of land are available.

In the past five years, the number of new urbanist projects nationwide has increased at least 20 percent each year, Rodriguez said.

In many cases, communities have altered zoning laws to allow for higher-density development and stores and offices in the same area. Rodriguez said more than 40 states now have development plans or codes that promote these neighborhoods. Because the communities encourage walking, they're believed to have a lower impact on roads and traffic and demand fewer road-widening projects and retention ponds.

"The bar is lowered because the impact is lower," Rodriguez said.

Cities and counties tend to like new urbanism because the developments attract upscale residents, raising the value of housing.

"They have appreciated faster, which means they've been in short supply," Rodriguez said. "Prices shoot up."

The high property values have a downside, however.

The communities tend to lack economic and racial diversity, which is one of the goals of the new urbanism movement, Rodriguez said.

"I think you're going to find that there's a major gap between what proponents of new urbanism would like it to do and what they actually do," he said. "They tend to be upscale developments of predominantly white residents."

To combat that problem, lawmakers have to create solutions that will create more economic and racial diversity when these communities are being built, Rodriguez said.

A LOCAL TREND

City and county administrators throughout Hampton Roads, including Suffolk, Isle of Wight, Williamsburg, James City, Gloucester and York, say these developments are necessary to provide alternative neighborhoods for the people they're trying to attract.

Last month, the Suffolk City Council paid $4.65 million for 25 acres of land that abuts the Nansemond River, hoping that a private developer will build a new urbanist or mixed-use development there.

"Suffolk has been trying to find some developers who would do new urbanist type of work," City Manager Steve Herbert said. The city also hired an expert to help the city use new-urbanist design principals in downtown redevelopment efforts. "We think it's an alternative to the standard subdivision design that we've seen so much of over the years because it offers a mix of uses," Herbert said. "Most are designed to be walkable and bikeable communities."

Last week, Suffolk's City Council approved a mixed-used development that allows for a combination of green space, single-family homes, row houses and homes with attached stores on 61 acres of land. The development, Bennett's Creek Square, almost triples the density allowed by current zoning laws, raising some concern among residents about increased traffic.

In Newport News, a Virginia Beach developer plans to build a mixed-used development at Jefferson Avenue and Denbigh Boulevard that includes 304 apartments surrounded by shops, restaurants and offices. Like Port Warwick, the Denbigh development will have some apartments built directly above shops. City officials are also reviewing another mixed-used development plan.

Isle of Wight officials are reviewing a plan for 430 residences along with stores, offices and public space. The proposal will include lofts above commercial space and public art.

WALKING COMMUNITIES

"They're using alleys, sidewalks ... a great deal of open space. A green runs down the center of the project," said Jonathan Hartley, Isle of Wight County's planning director. They also propose setting aside 21 acres for public use.

"I think we're trying to create a higher quality of life by offering more walkable, livable communities," Hartley said. "Being able to live, work and play without getting into a car is a goal we're trying to reach for."

He said county officials also invited new-urbanism experts to Isle of Wight to talk about development concepts. They've also toured Port Warwick.

"It's a great example," Hartley said. "The basic concepts and design certainly have a lot of merits."

Port Warwick developer Bobby Freeman said he didn't know anything about new urbanism when he launched the project back in 1999.

"I felt the community didn't have a Ghent and an Old Town Portsmouth," he said, referring to two gentrified urban communities in Norfolk and Portsmouth. "I thought there would be people who wanted to live like five minutes from the office."

Freeman said he researched Ghent and Hilton Village in Newport News, to see why the communities worked. "I measured how far apart the houses were - how far they're set off the street. There was a real consistency there."

Freeman said he took those measurements back to his land planners, and the design for Port Warwick was laid out. When people started hearing about the plans for the community, Freeman said, many told him it fit the definition of new urbanism.

"We have all these shops at Styron Square. People are constantly walking to the retail and dining area. In most suburban neighborhoods, you don't walk anywhere. There's no place to walk. There's no pedestrian destination."

MORE TO COME

Freeman expects to see a lot more developments like Port Warwick built in Hampton Roads because of the growing demand. "You see people measuring all the time," he said, referring to developers. "You're going to see more Port Warwicks pop up than you can shake a stick at."

Mayor Joe Frank said the city wasn't sure how to make the best use of the land where Port Warwick is being built until Freeman presented his plan.

"This was just so dramatic that we all got excited over it," Frank said.

He said the complex has been really successful. "People who live there love it," Frank said. "It's a lifestyle for people who don't want large yards, want to be close to their neighbors and want the parks and restaurants."

In 2001, Newport News launched its own mixed-use project, City Center at Oyster Point, with an office complex, apartments, shops and restaurants.

Last year, Hampton began a downtown revitalization project, luring developers to build apartments, lofts, offices and stores on city-owned land. It hasn't been without some opposition. At public meetings, residents have said they fear local fishermen would be driven away because redevelopment plans would force a marina to close.

James City and Williamsburg both have mixed-used projects in the works. James City's New Town development would contain between 1,200 and 2,000 single-family homes, town houses and apartments with an office, research district and movie theaters.

Williamsburg's High Street project calls for upscale town houses, apartments and condominiums alongside green areas, walkways, an events plaza and a shopping center with upscale shops and a multiplex theater.

Both New Town and High Street may have apartments or condominiums above stores.

"As land gets scarcer and scarcer, it becomes a real efficient way to do development," said Jim Noel, York's director of economic development.

vdogg
March 5th, 2005, 01:37 AM
This ones for you Okinawatyphoon :)

Site work has begun on Trader Tower!

http://www.norfolk.gov/News/Press/p...asp?PressID=119

Several exciting building and renovation projects are occurring in Downtown as a testament to Norfolk’s continued revitalization. Included in these projects is the $51 million expansion of Trader Publishing Company’s national headquarters. In addition to the 1,100 new jobs this expansion will bring to Downtown, Trader will construct a 21-story office tower located on the Federal Lot at the corner of Granby Street and City Hall Avenue. Preliminary site work on the project has begun and therefore it is necessary to close the 62-space Lot in early March in preparation for construction.

Simultaneously with the closure of the Federal Lot the previously metered, 16-space Board of Trade Lot, located on the corner of Atlantic Street and Plume Street, will become an all monthly lot.

Since Parking System has over 18,000 spaces available for use by its patrons, these changes should not disrupt normal parking patterns. However, to provide additional short-term parking opportunities the Division of Parking opened Lot 31, a temporary parking lot located near the corner of Granby Street and Plume Street. This property is the site of the old the BB&T drive-through that was purchased by the City last year for future development. The Lot has 69 spaces and will be operated from 7 a.m. to 11 p.m. daily. The Lot enters and exits from Plume Street.

All affected monthly tenants on both of these lots have been relocated. Short-term patrons should utilize alternative parking locations within the area. These include MacArthur Center South Garage, West Plume Street Garage, Boush Street Garage and the recently opened Lot 31.

The Division of Parking offers monthly parking for most of its locations. Simply contact the Customer Service Center at 222 East Main Street or call 664-6222.

For more information, please call 664-6222 us at www.norfolk.gov/parking.

__________________

okinawatyphoon
March 5th, 2005, 03:23 AM
YES YES YES!!! :D

Thank you vdogg!! Thank you God!!! lol

vdogg
March 5th, 2005, 07:21 PM
Well i went to the trader site today. The lot was still open, i asked a very old and cranky lot attendant what the deal was and he said that tommorrow is the last day the lot will be open and Monday is actually the day they will start construction. I also took the liberty of scoping out places to take pictures from. About the best place i found was the 10th floor of the suntrust building parking deck. Excellent views of the core downtown area and the Trader and Hilton contruction sites. Parking is 75 cents an hour but if u don't want to pay you can just as easily park on the street (free on weekends) and take the elevator to the 10th floor. I plan on returning there once construction activity has picked up and will post pics here when i do.

okinawatyphoon
March 6th, 2005, 01:17 AM
Well i went to the trader site today. The lot was still open, i asked a very old and cranky lot attendant what the deal was and he said that tommorrow is the last day the lot will be open and Monday is actually the day they will start construction. I also took the liberty of scoping out places to take pictures from. About the best place i found was the 10th floor of the suntrust building parking deck. Excellent views of the core downtown area and the Trader and Hilton contruction sites. Parking is 75 cents an hour but if u don't want to pay you can just as easily park on the street (free on weekends) and take the elevator to the 10th floor. I plan on returning there once construction activity has picked up and will post pics here when i do.

Ok vdogg we need DAILY updated pics! lol just kidding. thanks for being one of those thats gonna take pics. I could....but a couple pics for $1000 dollars isn't really worth it haha.

okinawatyphoon
March 6th, 2005, 07:16 AM
oh yeah....has anyone looked at the cruise ship terminal or Harbor's Edge lately? how are things coming along?

vdogg
March 6th, 2005, 07:53 AM
oh yeah....has anyone looked at the cruise ship terminal or Harbor's Edge lately? how are things coming along?
There were two very tall cranes hovering over harbors edge when i passed by today, i haven't really had a chance to get down to the cruise ship terminal yet.

gwiATLeman
March 6th, 2005, 06:56 PM
I imagine a string of highrise condos (ala Miami) all up and down the coast. Just imagine living on the top floor of one of those condos and having downtown Norfolks skyline.

Baby steps OK. :? You can't just build it without the market for it. Miami metro has a population of 5 million, has year round pleasant weather, is an international travel destination and is the "in" place to be in the whole country right now.

Its great to see all the good things going on in the area though. I have good freinds there and am looking forward to visiting to see all the positive changes.

vdogg
March 7th, 2005, 10:01 PM
So construction on the Trader Tower is truly underway now. I drove by the site today
Norfolk didn't skip a beat. They said Monday and they meant Monday. There were cranes and construction vehicles everywhere, flat bed trucks with what looked like I beams on them, and they even had some streets cordoned off. It was quite a spectacle. Hopefully I'll get some time in the coming days to get out there and take some pics.

vdogg
March 8th, 2005, 03:05 AM
http://meetingsnet.com/ar/meetings_phase_virginia_beach/
Phase I of Virginia Beach Convention Center Set to Open in June

By Barbara L. Brewer

MeetingsNet, Feb 28 2005


Phase I of the $202.5 million Virginia Beach Convention Center will open in June, featuring an innovative design by architectural firm Skidmore Owings & Merrill, said Director of Convention Sales Al Hutchinson in an interview last week. Highlights include soaring glass walls and both interior and exterior pools of water, a 10-story observation deck, a cybercafe, a 10-foot-by-10-foot grid permanently etched into the exhibition floor to ease setup, and meeting space that is divisible into four meeting suites, or "pods."

With more than 300,000 square feet of space, including approximately 57,000 square feet of exhibit space, 19,000 square feet of meeting room space, and a 31,029-square-foot ballroom, Virginia Beach is now "aggressively pursuing the national association market and the SMERF markets," said Hutchinson. More than 1,000 free parking spaces will be available.

Entering a highly competitive market, the new center will be vying for business with centers in cities like Baltimore; Savannah, Ga.; Charlotte, N.C.; Fort Lauderdale, Fla.; Nashville, Tenn.; and Richmond, Va., according to Hutchinson. Hutchinson said the convention center has booked the American Bus Association’s 2008 convention, which expects 4,000 attendees using 8,000 room-nights. To date, 62 events have been booked for 2005 to 2010, seven of which are brand-new to the area.

The center is offering an incentive package to planners who book between now and December 31, 2005, for meetings to be held in 2006 and beyond. It is giving a discount of 25 percent to 100 percent off of room rental at the convention center (based on the number of room-nights and food and beverage booked).

The existing 23-year-old building will be demolished on completion of Phase I, and construction will then begin on Phase II. When that is completed in January 2007, the convention center will total 516,522 square feet, which will encompass 150,000 square feet of exhibit space, a 31,029-square-foot ballroom, and 29,000 square feet of meeting space. There will be 2,300 parking spaces.

The City of Virginia Beach, which owns and operates the convention center, is also focusing on developing the central business district, Town Center, a 10-minute drive from the convention center. A 176-room Hilton Garden Inn recently opened there; and a 30-story Westin with 215 guest rooms on the first 12 floors and the remaining floors devoted to condominium units is now under construction with a 2007 opening planned. Also in the works for Town Center: a performing arts theater that seats 1,400, to open in 2007.

The 19th Street Project, also under development, will link the conference center to the oceanfront, six blocks away. The mixed–use project will encompass housing, restaurants, and retail stores in a pedestrian-friendly zone. On the beach at 19th Street, the 110-room Fairfield Inn by Marriott opened in September.

At 31st Street, a development called 31 Ocean will see the grand opening of the $62 million, 295-room Hilton Virginia Beach Oceanfront next month. The project also includes upscale shops and restaurants such as Tommy Bahamas and Starbucks. The city hopes to link the conference center, the oceanfront district and Town Center with a new BRT, or bus rapid transit system, though approval for the project has yet to be obtained.

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okinawatyphoon
March 8th, 2005, 01:19 PM
Emporis needs some help....they used to have Harbor's Edge retirement up there, but they replaced it with Harbor Heights. But under the Harbor Heights building, it has the Harbor's Edge rendering. Plus they got the floor count wrong. Weirdos.

vdogg
March 9th, 2005, 03:44 AM
Well i'm sure you all enjoyed our thundersnowstorm this afternoon (thunder and lightning during a snowstorm :eek: , what is up with this states weather). I was traveling in the towncenter area at that time. The police had all the streets blocked off due to debris flying off the top of the cosmopolitan and one of the tower cranes had become unstable in some extremely high winds. The damage to the cosmopolitan was light however and it shouldn't set them back that far in construction. Heres a story from the pilot and a link (there was more than one story)

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=83204&ran=134377&tref=po

Winter reasserts itself with wind and snow

The Virginian-Pilot
© March 8, 2005 | Last updated 8:06 PM Mar. 8

Mother Nature came down with a case of March madness today.

Hampton Roads saw driving snow, thunderstorms and lightning, strong winds, biting cold and even hail in some places.

The weather caused a number of problems. Police in Virginia Beach closed streets around Town Center due to concerns about high winds affecting cranes and construction debris. Several colleges, including Old Dominion University, Tidewater Community College and Virginia Wesleyan, closed early, while public schools remained open.

All this came on the heels of a sunny and spring-like Monday that saw the mercury climb into the 70s.

The National Weather Service in Wakefield at about 1 p.m. issued a winter weather advisory for Hampton Roads, in effect until 6 p.m. The low tonight was forecast to dip to 25 degrees.


That advisory came on top of a wind advisory for southeast, central and southcentral Virginia. Also valid until 6 p.m., the advisory covered all areas of Hampton Roads, plus northeast North Carolina.

Coming behind a cold front that crossed the Mid-Atlantic region this morning, blustery northwest winds were forecast to increase to between 25 and 30 mph, with occasional gusts in excess of 45 mph. Winds were expected to subside during the late afternoon or early evening hours, the weather service said.





http://www.wvec.com/news/topstories/stories/wvec_local_030805_thundersnow.11aeee698.html

Bizarre weather blasts Hampton Roads as "thundersnow" hits many areas

Click to watch video

05:34 PM EST on Tuesday, March 8, 2005

by Pete McElveen, WVEC.com

Monday's balmy temperatures may have induced a few cases of spring fever in Hampton Roads, but freakish weather Tuesday provided a quick remedy.

WVEC.com

An SUV got a quick frosting of snow as a cold front blasted through the area Tuesday, March 8.

A powerful cold front blasted through Hampton Roads Tuesday, bringing plunging temperatures and a mixed bag of weather which seemed to cover all extremes, from hail to heavy snow.

High winds caused several problems in the area. Wind gusts measured as high as 75 mph at the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel.

On the York River, choppy water caused a barge to flip; in Cheapeake, a tree fell on a house on River Pearl Way; the winds tangled a support cable on a construction crane at Town Centre in Virginia Beach. Police closed roads in that area for several hours. There were no injuries in any of these wind-related incidents.

Poor weather also delayed the homecoming of USS Saipan. The Navy said the ship will return when it can do so safely.

13News meteorologist Evan Stewart described Tuesday's "thundersnow" as a weather oddity caused by the drastic change in temperature. "We had a temperature swing of about 40 degrees from Monday to Tuesday. Whenever you have such extremes over a short period of time, you're likely to get crazy weather like strong thunderstorms and snow," said Stewart.

Stewart says "thundersnow" occurrs when cold air rushing in behind a front collides with warm air, changing the preciptation from rain over to snow. In Tuesday's peculiar blast of winter, lightning flashes were visible and thunderclaps could be heard as snow seemed to fall sideways due to the gusty winds.

Stewart says accumulation of snow on roadways has been light due to the recent high temperatures. However there was some slush left on roads after the quick downpour of snow, as well as accumulation on grassy areas and vehicles.
Also Online

"Thundersnow can happen in winter, but it's primarily a springtime event," said Stewart.

He added that it's not likely the area will see any more thundersnow this week, but some additional snow is possible Friday.

vdogg
March 9th, 2005, 05:52 AM
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=83236&ran=229606

Downtown deals get green light from Norfolk

By IBRAM ROGERS, The Virginian-Pilot
© March 9, 2005 | Last updated 10:24 PM Mar. 8

NORFOLK — The City Council finalized two downtown development contracts Tuesday, including one that Mayor Paul D. Fraim described as “the most important development project downtown since the opening of the MacArthur Center.”

Trader Publishing Co . is set to build a 19- or 20-story office building at the intersection of Granby Street and City Hall Avenue.

The city is selling the property to Trader for $10. Fraim said this project will equate to “a $51 million investment in the city, 1,600 net new jobs and millions of dollars of new tax revenue with a company that is going to continue to grow and bring more business to downtown.”

Construction will begin this month, said Tim Polk, the city planning director. There are already cranes on the site.

According to the agreement, the company will have 24 months to finish construction, which should take only 18 months to complete , Polk said.

Trader operates Internet and classified advertising publications such as Auto Trader and Truck Trader in more than 170 cities. The company is jointly owned by Cox Enterprises of Atlanta and Landmark Communications Inc. of Norfolk, publisher of The Virginian-Pilot.

The city will pay 80 percent of the cost to move a storm drain near the property, so long as the total cost doesn’t exceed $186,000. The city also will provide discounted parking for Trader.

In return, the city expects to receive $1.7 million a year in taxes, said Roderick Woolard, Norfolk’s director of development. He said that figure comes from the real estate, business license and equipment taxes that the company will generate. It doesn’t include utility taxes.

Also Tuesday, the city agreed to sell a one-acre piece of property on Boush Street , between Tazewell Street and College Place, to Robinson Development Group Inc. for $500,000.

The site is currently home to the d’Art Center.

The new development will feature a 40,000-square-foot supermarket, a parking garage with at least 226 spaces, 80,000 square feet of office space for the headquarters of Tidewater Community College and 99 condominiums.

The d’Art Center is moving several blocks away to Selden Arcade.

Construction will begin within the next 30 days, Polk said.

Just as with Trader, the city is requiring work to finish in 24 months. And just as in the other contract, the developer has agreed to make an effort to create low- and middle-income jobs during and after construction.

According the agreement, 116 spaces in the parking garage shall be allocated for residential use and another 60 spaces for retail customers.

The city will reap about $850,000 a year in taxes from the project, Woolard said.

Perhaps most important to the residential development of downtown, a grocery is being built. There isn’t one downtown now.

“Having that grocery store will make it more desirable to live there,” Woolard said.

These two development projects, Polk said, allow the city to move closer to achieving its goal of creating “a live/work downtown.”

Reach Ibram Rogers at 222-5150 or Ibram.rogers@pilotonline.com.

okinawatyphoon
March 9th, 2005, 06:22 AM
All good stuff.....glad to hear that these two projects are moving along. So the last two projects to get started are the Hilton and the Granby Towers.

Harbor's Edge: UC
Cruise Ship Terminal: UC
Trader: UC
Harbor Heights: almost UC
Hilton: still finalizing
Granby Tower 1: start in Fall
Granby Tower 2: sometime after 1

Am I missing anything?

vdogg
March 9th, 2005, 06:31 AM
nope, i think you have everything that has been "officially" announced :D .

vdogg
March 9th, 2005, 06:33 AM
Actually, I stand corrected. You have Norfolks new courts complex and the new federal courts complex which have both been mentioned by city officials.

lammius
March 9th, 2005, 06:40 AM
What is Harbor Heights? Is that the TCC building?

Also, I know Granby St terminates at Main St. but is there access to Waterside Drive/Town Point Park there (i.e. between former BB&T and WTC)? I'm wondering how Norfolk could tie Granby in to the waterfront. If there is a space, even a small one, a nice landscaped walkway would be a good way to connect the two areas. They seem detached now.

vdogg
March 9th, 2005, 06:49 AM
What is Harbor Heights? Is that the TCC building?
yes

okinawatyphoon
March 9th, 2005, 12:50 PM
There's a free city meeting in Norfolk on March 17 that discusses residential development and whatnot. someone from the company that will construct the Granby Towers will be speaking. maybe someone could find out if the height has changed or something. It would be interesting to hear about what happens if someone goes. details below:

http://www.norfolk.gov/News/Press/prdetails.asp?PressID=124

lammius
March 9th, 2005, 06:55 PM
Yeah I really want clarification on whether the TOTAL building height of the taller tower will be 25 as the Pilot reports, or whether it's 25 above 6 parking floors as the architect's website says.

vdogg
March 9th, 2005, 07:14 PM
Yeah I really want clarification on whether the TOTAL building height of the taller tower will be 25 as the Pilot reports, or whether it's 25 above 6 parking floors as the architect's website says.I will try my hardest to make it to this. Its right after i get off work however so i can't promise anything, but i will try to compile a list of questions to ask.

vdogg
March 9th, 2005, 07:58 PM
The images from the previous harbor heights url seem to be turning into red x's so i'm posting it from a different url so that those who haven't had a chance to see it can see what this project will look like http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/vdogg/tcchq.jpg

Liger Zero
March 9th, 2005, 08:00 PM
Arggg! Trader has begun construction and I missed it? :wallbash: I work 2 blocks from the site and I wasnt even aware. I'm slipping. I'll have to go check it out one day this week. I guess that I'll also go out one day this week to catch up on all the construction progress in and around downtown Norfolk.

vdogg
March 10th, 2005, 05:20 AM
Ok, i've tried to be calm and collective and all that, and pretty reliable sources keep saying an annoucement will be soon but damn, whats the hold up? That better be one hell of a conference center to be causing all this delay. I just went back and re-read one of the articles i posted way back. In the article they stated that a deal was near on the Hilton. This article was dated August 2004! Every project with the exception of this one is now either under construction, or a firm construction date has been set. When i saw the article in the pilot today entitled "Downtown Deals approved" I just knew it was something about the Hilton, but alas, they only told us what we already knew! It should be a crime to keep people in this much suspense. Right now, i don't care if the rendering is drawn in crayon and has stick figures for people, just show us something :soapbox:

okinawatyphoon
March 10th, 2005, 11:39 AM
Ok, i've tried to be calm and collective and all that, and pretty reliable sources keep saying an annoucement will be soon but damn, whats the hold up? That better be one hell of a conference center to be causing all this delay. I just went back and re-read one of the articles i posted way back. In the article they stated that a deal was near on the Hilton. This article was dated August 2004! Every project with the exception of this one is now either under construction, or a firm construction date has been set. When i saw the article in the pilot today entitled "Downtown Deals approved" I just knew it was something about the Hilton, but alas, they only told us what we already knew! It should be a crime to keep people in this much suspense. Right now, i don't care if the rendering is drawn in crayon and has stick figures for people, just show us something

DAMN WELL SAID VDOGG!!

vdogg
March 11th, 2005, 05:48 PM
Excerpt from Virginia Beach State of the city speech. More can be found here.
http://www.vbgov.com/city_hall/city_info/0,1383,2201,00.html
"I cannot mention our Performing Arts Theatre without mentioning the other exciting elements of Town Center. Phase I and Phase II are just about done, and this summer we’ll move into Phase III ahead of schedule. In addition to the theatre, the other key component of this phase is the Westin Hotel project. We’re looking at a multi-use skyscraper – a new landmark for our city and our region. The plans aren’t finalized, but it will be at least 30 stories high, and it will include a hotel, condominiums, retail and meeting space, and, of course, more parking. This is another outstanding example of the power of public-private partnerships in our city. The private investment of this phase is projected to be around $135 million dollars. That’s four times greater than the public investment!"

Liger Zero
March 11th, 2005, 07:25 PM
^ I read the entire speech. Just like Norfolk's speech a few weeks ago, it sounds like great news overall for the entire city of Va. Beach.

vdogg
March 12th, 2005, 03:03 PM
Westin at Towncenter website updated with new, 37 story rendering! :eek2:
http://www.residencesatwestin.com/

vdogg
March 12th, 2005, 03:05 PM
Wow, these people may actually be trying to go for the state title :D

verycoolnin
March 13th, 2005, 07:26 AM
Damn, I was hoping it would be 40 stories. But 37 is good.

okinawatyphoon
March 13th, 2005, 11:06 AM
Its just a rendering. Renderings in reality don't mean much. Its possible that the developer mistakenly added a few floors when all they were trying to do was change the garage or something. I just don't want all the kiddies getting their hopes up lol.

vdogg
March 13th, 2005, 11:50 AM
That being said, this developers renderings have seemed to consistently match the floor count of the week. It is also consistent with the briefing the developer gave to city council when he presented the building that he said "is actually 35 stories tall, but the trend is for things to get bigger". The redesign was supposed to be finished by the end of January. It is now March, this is most likely the final rendering were gonna see out of them. It's gonna be real interesting to watch this weeks council session. The developer is due back before them either these week or next for a vote on the final terms of the contract. I'll keep you posted and cut and paste news as soon as i get it :D (p.s. I signed up for their preferred interest list online last month. The reply email said there will be 119 condos availiable, which is an increase from the previous 104. Also the hotel has grown from 215 to 250 rooms.)

vdogg
March 15th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Lots of new stuff today! Willy from SSP has obtained information from both the Granby Towers and Harbor Heights developers. First, the good news on Granby Towers

I just spoke with Marathon Development (builders of Granby Towers), they said that the towers are 100% a go. They said that the Feds are NOT going to get the land and in fact there are several Federal judges that are on the waiting list to purchase some of these condos. They are working on a website for these towers as we speak. The height WILL stay the same and they said if anything it will increase, so we could be looking at some pretty tall buildings.

And now for the news on Harbor Heights


Just spoke with Robinson Development (builders of the Harbor Heights), it will increase in height to 17 stories.

Harbor Heights website (http://www.harborheights.net/index.html)
79892

:)

oduguy1999
March 15th, 2005, 08:14 PM
awesome news, i think the granby towers are going to be the nicest addition being built anywhere in VA. those are some nice buildings, very classic.

okinawatyphoon
March 16th, 2005, 11:38 AM
Harbor Heights kinda reminds me of the Cosmopolitan in Va. Beach....does anyone else see it? They're both shaped the same and about the same height, although Norfolk's is now 3 floors taller.

vdogg
March 16th, 2005, 01:22 PM
Yes and no. I think this one looks way better than the cosmo though.

VTDoan
March 16th, 2005, 06:27 PM
All good stuff.....glad to hear that these two projects are moving along. So the last two projects to get started are the Hilton and the Granby Towers.

Harbor's Edge: UC
Cruise Ship Terminal: UC
Trader: UC
Harbor Heights: almost UC
Hilton: still finalizing
Granby Tower 1: start in Fall
Granby Tower 2: sometime after 1

Am I missing anything?


Don't forget about 388 Boush St. It's not a very large condo building but it adds to the amount of housing downtown. Plus, its right next to the new Harbor Heights building going up.

vdogg
March 17th, 2005, 01:29 PM
http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/business/granbytowerrendingbig.gif

NORFOLK — Buddy Gadams expects to open a sales office by late summer to begin marketing units in his proposed 29-story condominium complex at the corner of Granby Street and Brambleton Avenue, a key intersection in the future of downtown.

Gadams has modified plans for the development, labeled Granby Towers when it was announced last July. The complex, with more than 300 residential units, will feature one tower, instead of two, surrounded by four-story buildings with street-level retail and condos above. There will also be an eight-story parking garage.

The progress on the condo complex is the most concrete development in the quest to carry the revitalization of Granby Street northward across Brambleton Avenue and beyond. City leaders have long voiced a desire to see the intersection become a gateway to downtown.

The Granby/Brambleton intersection is considered strategic because of the potential for development at each of its corners. In addition to Gadams’ condo complex on the southwest corner:

- Plans are proceeding on a possible expansion of the Walter E. Hoffman U.S. Courthouse that sits on the southeast corner, across Granby Street from Gadams’ site;

- The city may be eyeing the Greyhound bus station on the northeast corner as the possible site for a new public library;

- And there will soon be vacant, developable land at the northwest corner.

A wrecking ball will hit the intersection before any new concrete and steel.

Peter Decker Jr. and his wife, Bess, have hired a contractor to demolish the buildings they own at the northwest corner. A planned restaurant and lounge there fell through earlier this year. The structures now have been deemed unsafe and will be demolished in the next several weeks after city permits are obtained, Decker said.

The future use of the property is unknown, Decker said, but he envisions something that complements Gadams’ project and other potential developments there.

“It is important to Bess and me that whatever we do north of Brambleton it will pioneer into something wonderful,” he said.

Across Granby Street from the Decker’s property, the Greyhound bus station sits on land owned by the city. It is a loosely held secret that the property is a possible location for a desired new public library. Such a facility would replace the aging Kirn Memorial Library.

But funding for a new central library has not been identified and is at least three to five years from reality, city officials said.

If and when a new library is built, the city wants it to be an iconic structure, said Tim Polk, the city’s planning director.

“Central libraries are signature buildings,” Polk said recently. “They are highly designed and well recognized. It will be very important that it is done right.”

Polk’s comments came prior to a breakfast meeting on March 9 during which Tidewater Community College President Deborah DiCroce gave a presentation on the college’s planned expansion. DiCroce said enrollment at the college’s downtown campus has grown so rapidly that it also will need a larger library.

The city and TCC may join together to develop a new library. Discussions about the library are ongoing, without any concrete plans, Polk said. The same is true of the courthouse, he said.

The federal government’s decision on the courthouse is critical because it could change the intersection’s redevelopment. Federal officials have expressed interest in Gadams’ land, the Greyhound property and a building just to the south on Granby, which is being redeveloped with condos, as possible sites for an annex.

Design plans are proceeding, but funding has held up the project. There is a moratorium on federal courthouse construction, said Karen Redmond, spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts.

The Bush administration has only asked Congress to fund construction of two courthouses, in San Diego and in Austin, Texas, Redmond said.

“You just never know what will happen in the appropriations process, but we do have a moratorium because we are trying to cut back on costs,” she said. “Money is tight and getting tighter. We have to reduce expenses and growth.”

Whatever the fate of the courthouse, Polk said the focus on the Granby/Brambleton intersection and other development downtown will force the city to devote greater attention to the design of buildings.

With land scarce, all new developments are expected to be multi story. Care will need to be taken to ensure that the designs align with the character and feel of the rest of downtown, Polk said.

Such attention played a role in the redesign of Gadams’ $130 million condominium complex. The plan initially called for two towers to be built atop of a parking structure. But Ray Gindroz, a Pittsburgh-based urban design consultant hired by the city, advised Gadams that the project needed to be redesigned to bring complex residents closer to the street.

The revised design should add to the ambiance of pedestrian traffic along Granby, Gadams said.

The developer said he expects to begin filing for his permits with the city’s design review committee and planning commission within the next 60 days. And he hopes to break ground on the development early next year.

“My contractors said that this project should take 24 months to finish,” Gadams said. “We’re full speed ahead on the design and the marketing.”

http://home.hamptonroads.com/storie...83629&ran=27723

VaCeltic
March 18th, 2005, 12:29 AM
I think I prefer the single tower over the two that was listed before, for that area of downtown norfolk it can become a focal point and help push development in the surrounding area (as the article said). I think I would take a taller tower over two smaller ones any day!

oduguy1999
March 18th, 2005, 02:22 AM
29 floor Granby tower
http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/business/granbytowerrendingbig.gif
wow i love this building and the size is perfect!
Great news plus all the other additions
TCC-15 floors
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/vdogg/tcchq.jpg
Trader building 21 floors
http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/business/traderbuildingbig.jpg
cruise terminal
http://www.virginiaedreview.com/newspics/norfolk.jpg
388 bousch street
http://img83.exs.cx/img83/6646/6f-boushcondosbig.jpg
church street
http://img69.exs.cx/img69/6883/bb-ChurchStreetCorri.jpg
harbors edge retirement village -17 floors
http://img69.exs.cx/img69/5210/88-harborsedge.jpg
Sentara Heart Complex-Sentara Hopital
http://www.sentara.com/heart/hearthosrendering.jpg

vdogg
March 18th, 2005, 03:06 AM
^^^^Don't forget the Hilton at 25+ . Supposedly very soon to being announced

vdogg
March 18th, 2005, 05:39 AM
A little larger, more detailed rendering 8) .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/guynvb/Norfolk/granbytower.jpg
courtesy guynvb from SSP

Dale
March 18th, 2005, 06:14 AM
I should think this would be a new tallest, no ?

okinawatyphoon
March 18th, 2005, 11:01 AM
I should think this would be a new tallest, no ?

Yes it would most likely pass Dominion Tower not only cuz of the height, but also cuz of the spire. This is one damn good looking building though!

okinawatyphoon
March 18th, 2005, 02:34 PM
Oh yeah, oduguy1999, Harbor Heights (aka TCC) is now 17 stories instead of 15.

vdogg
March 18th, 2005, 08:55 PM
Here is a link to the program council update. It's an interview with Mayor Paul Fraim and he goes very in depth into development in Norfolk, including the Hilton :) http://www.norfolk.gov/tv48/council_update.asp
Simply look under council shows, and where it says guest click on mayor Paul Fraim.
***scroll about 30minutes in***

Liger Zero
March 19th, 2005, 12:37 AM
Harbor Heights update:

A source today told me that all tenants will be out of the buidlings in that immediate area by mid April and demolition will begin very soon after that.

okinawatyphoon
March 23rd, 2005, 01:09 PM
Port cargo, vessel calls increased during January and February
By CHRISTOPHER DINSMORE, The Virginian-Pilot
© March 23, 2005

NORFOLK — This year started in much the same way 2004 ended at the Port of Virginia.

Cargo volumes surged 13.2 percent to 297,207 20-foot equivalent units, or TEUs, in January and February, the Virginia Port Authority announced Tuesday at its board of commissioners meeting.

The port ended last year with a 9.9 percent gain in TEUs, a universal measure for shipping containers that come in 20-, 40- and 53-foot sizes.

Vessel calls in the port grew for the first time in two years, up 3.8 percent to 332 ships in January and February.

Vessel calls have contracted slightly in recent years as ship lines deployed larger container ships in fewer services. But as international trade swells, more and more large ships are coming now, said Thomas Capozzi, the port authority’s senior managing director of marketing services. Congestion on the West Coast is pushing the growing Asian trade to seek alternatives such as ports on the East Coast.

“There are going to be a number of new all-water services from Asia coming through both the Panama Canal and the Suez Canal in 2006 and 2007,” Capozzi said. “The lines are telling me we’d better be ready.”

Construction projects at the port authority’s three marine terminals, including the massive renovation of Norfolk International Terminals’ south end, continue on budget and on schedule, said Jeff Florin, chief engineer and director of port development.

On Tuesday, the board of commissioners approved a new $25 million bond issue to refund about a like amount of bonds issued in 1996. Essentially a refinancing, the offering will occur only if there will be a savings of at least 5 percent.

The board also approved a partnership with the Virginia Tobacco Indemnification and Community Revitalization Commission to help promote economic development in Southside and Southwest Virginia. Funded by proceeds from the national tobacco settlement, the commission is charged with promoting economic growth in tobacco-dependent communities.

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=83916&ran=115869

oduguy1999
March 29th, 2005, 08:42 PM
Condos planned at bridge-tunnel entrance in Norfolk

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/business/tunnelcondos.jpg

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=84194&ran=236278&tref=po (http://)

okinawatyphoon
April 1st, 2005, 01:54 PM
I think we all moved to Urban Planet.org....this thread is dying.

Liger Zero
April 5th, 2005, 01:43 AM
^ Yeah, I think you are right. Even though most have us have migrated to UP, I still think that we need to keep people informed as to all that is going on in the Hampton Roads area. The region needs as much good exposure as possible.

lammius
April 5th, 2005, 03:48 AM
We'll just have to copy/paste all UP convos in here!

vdogg
April 27th, 2005, 01:28 AM
I have received this update from the developer of the Westin.

"The image on the website is the latest updated version of the project.
As of now, the entire Westin project has increased from 30 stories to
38 stories, however we are still in the design phase so we may continue
to have changes.

I hope this answers you concerns.

Kris Inderlied
Director of Marketing and Public Relations
Armada Hoffler
222 Central Park Avenue
Suite 1200
Virginia Beach, VA 23462
www.armadahoffler.com"

vdogg
April 30th, 2005, 12:58 AM
It has just been announced by Lou Haddad on News channel 3 that the Westin "will be the tallest building in Virginia period" :D

lammius
May 3rd, 2005, 09:28 AM
Shhh! Don't let people in Rosslyn hear about it!

vdogg
May 3rd, 2005, 12:37 PM
Shhh! Don't let people in Rosslyn hear about it!
Lol. It was also announced on the other site that Granby towers will now be 31 stories. :)

lammius
May 4th, 2005, 07:14 AM
Somebody's been pouring Miracle Gro on these proposals.

vdogg
May 10th, 2005, 07:31 PM
I spoke with marathon development today. They have confirmed that this building will now be 31 stories tall with 300 condos and groundbreaking is scheduled for the beginning of January 2006. They also confirmed that they tore the old signs down to make way for "bigger and better" signs and that the signs with the new rendering (and hopefully a website) will be up shortly.

vdogg
May 10th, 2005, 07:32 PM
Somebody's been pouring Miracle Gro on these proposals.
LOL, i hear ya. We now have 2 buildings over 30 stories to be constructed in HR. This is great :) .

vdogg
May 14th, 2005, 12:56 AM
Just some additional (albeit artistic and less detailed) renderings i found online of the Westin.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/vdogg/unit6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/vdogg/unit3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/vdogg/unit1.jpg

vdogg
May 26th, 2005, 12:55 AM
Since nobody else has posted this here yet I guess I will.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/okinawatyphoon/Norfolk/Vabeachsportsfacility.bmp
Sports training complex planned in Virginia Beach

VIRGINIA BEACH — A $16 million professional sports training complex will be built on 15 acres on Baker Road, near Norfolk International Airport.

The facility, being built by Portsmouth-based DLH Sports Inc., will include indoor and outdoor football fields, indoor basketball courts, a swimming pool, gym, running track and more.

Officials from the city of Virginia Beach and DLH are expected to formally announce the project at a press conference Thursday afternoon. They declined comment today, but many of the plans are detailed on the DLH web site, www.dlhsports.com.

Also according to the site, Tom Shaw will serve as the football staff’s program director.

Shaw is currently speed and conditioning coach for the reigning world champion New England Patriots. He also has worked with the NFL’s Aeneas Williams, Rod Woodson, Deion Sanders, Michael Vick, Derrick Brooks and Tom Brady along with NBA players Charlie Ward, Billy Owens, Randy Livingston and Kerry Kittles....

Full Story (http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=86942&ran=182541&tref=po)

vdogg
May 27th, 2005, 12:35 AM
Talk about an advertising blitz. It's on wvec now and the planning commision has approved the project! :D

Planning Commission gives preliminary OK for new skyscraper

05:25 PM EDT on Thursday, May 26, 2005


WVEC.com

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An architect's rendering of the proposed Granby Tower in downtown Norfolk.

The Norfolk Planning Commission has given preliminary approval to a new skyscraper in downtown Norfolk. The 31-story Granby Tower would become the tallest residential building in the region.


Developers presented sketches of the building to the Commission on Thursday. The exterior of the 450-foot high rise will be primarily blue tinted glass, aluminum and stainless steel, with a 100 ft. spire. Architect Bryan Moore said he hopes the design will remind people of the Empire State Building and the Chrysler Building in New York.


Granby Tower is planned for Granby Street at Brambleton, across from the U.S. District Courthouse. Groundbreaking is scheduled for early next year and the building is expected to be complete in late 2007. Its art deco style is designed to blend in with surrounding structures. .....Full Story (http://www.wvec.com/news/topstories/stories/wvec_top_052605_granby_tower.2b232054f.html)

verycoolnin
May 31st, 2005, 04:52 AM
This thread pretty much details all major costruction in the hampton roads: http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11642

I'm really interested in this "J: Office Tower - 35- to 40-stories; proposed"

vdogg
May 31st, 2005, 12:41 PM
This thread pretty much details all major costruction in the hampton roads: http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11642

I'm really interested in this "J: Office Tower - 35- to 40-stories; proposed"
Not to sure about this one. It was mentioned a while back and for a time their looked like there might be something too it but i honestly haven't heard anything else about it recently.

verycoolnin
June 3rd, 2005, 03:46 AM
After Grandby and Trader?

http://members.cox.net/verycoolnin/Norfolk1.JPG

vdogg
June 3rd, 2005, 04:02 AM
After Grandby and Trader?

http://members.cox.net/verycoolnin/Norfolk1.JPG

Very nice. I'm gonna post this here Norfolk/Portsmouth skyline (http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9949&st=90) to your credit. Please feel free to join us as we have a number of people trying to photoshop different angles of the Norfolk skyline.

vdogg
June 3rd, 2005, 04:04 AM
After Grandby and Trader?

http://members.cox.net/verycoolnin/Norfolk1.JPG
After Granby and Trader you need to put the Hilton directly to the right of Trader and Harbor Heights to the left of 150 West Main.

vdogg
June 3rd, 2005, 04:07 AM
The courts and city hall towers would go right behind dominion and be barely visible i believe.

verycoolnin
June 3rd, 2005, 05:44 AM
My finished project
http://members.cox.net/verycoolnin/Norfolk2.JPG

vdogg
June 8th, 2005, 01:15 AM
New high-rise apartment building planned in downtown Norfolk

By DEBBIE MESSINA, The Virginian-Pilot
© June 7, 2005 | Last updated 5:14 PM Jun. 7

NORFOLK — Would-be downtowners may soon have another new high-rise address to consider, this time at the western gateway to the business district.

Kotarides Developers is planning an 18- to 20-story apartment tower on what’s now a city parking lot between Brambleton Avenue and York Street near the YMCA.

The project was first proposed in 2003 as two seven-story apartment buildings. Now the developer has an agreement with the city to refine the proposal over the next four months and negotiate the sale of the land.

The City Council paved the way for the project today when it approved transferring the land from Norfolk Redevelopment and Housing Authority ownership to city ownership.

Pete A. Kotarides, a company vice president, said he is negotiating with adjacent property owners to expand the project to include rowhouse-style apartments as well. Some of the rowhouses could be built where the YMCA parking lot now sits, he said.

There could be as many as 250 apartments, depending on whether the developer can acquire the land not owned by the city.

Specific plans and designs are not yet available.

“We’re working with neighboring property owners to see what we can put together,” Kotarides said. “Either way, we’re going to build on the city property.”

The core of the plan is a city-owned parking lot at Brambleton and Duke Street. If the developers acquire more land, a pedestrian bridge across York Street would link the tower to a block of rowhouse apartments with a parking garage hidden behind them.

The units would rent for $1,200 to $2,500 a month, Kotarides said. Construction would not start for at least 18 months, he added.

“The need is greater than the supply right now,” said Mayor Paul D. Fraim, adding that several residential projects in addition to the Kotarides proposal are in the works.

Ninety condominiums, known as St. Paul’s Place, are under construction on St. Paul’s Boulevard. Construction is beginning on Harbor Heights, a mixed use 15-story building that includes 99 residential units at Boush and Tazewell streets. Another 87 units are being built at 388 Boush St.

Further north, Bristol Development is clearing land for The Row at Ghent, a 358-unit condo/apartment project on Monticello Avenue.

In recent weeks, plans were unveiled for about 300 condos in a new 31-story tower at Brambleton Avenue and Granby Street and for 66 condos in the Rotunda Building on St. Paul’s Boulevard.

Since 2002, Norfolk officials have been working to attract more housing downtown. “It’s great to know the city is that attractive,” Fraim said.

Reach Debbie Messina at (757) 446-2588 or debbie.messina@pilotonline.comhttp://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=87469&ran=162017

oduguy1999
June 8th, 2005, 07:45 AM
My finished project
http://members.cox.net/verycoolnin/Norfolk2.JPG

nice job, norfolk is really impressive

okinawatyphoon
June 8th, 2005, 10:26 AM
Hey oduguy, what happened to your old renderings of the new Norfolk skyline? I never saw them because they were red x's.

oduguy1999
June 9th, 2005, 01:36 AM
i dunno what happened to it, prefer the new one anyway, hehe. are u in the marines in okinawa, my sister is based out there.

okinawatyphoon
June 13th, 2005, 01:47 AM
i dunno what happened to it, prefer the new one anyway, hehe. are u in the marines in okinawa, my sister is based out there.

Nope I'm not, I'm just a 17 year old dependent. We go to the marine bases all the time though! :)

vdogg
June 15th, 2005, 07:47 AM
Developer unveils Portsmouth vision
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Urban design consultant Ray Gindroz’s downtown waterfront development plan specifically centers on five properties owned by Portsmouth — including the civic center parking lot, the Holiday Inn Olde Towne-Portsmouth and the vacant property across from City Hall. RENDERING COURTESY OF URBAN DESIGN ASSOCIATES.

By MEGHAN HOYER, The Virginian-Pilot
© June 15, 2005

PORTSMOUTH — Downtown could look very different in a few years.

Urban design consultant Ray Gindroz’s vision, unveiled at a City Council meeting Tuesday, includes six high-rise towers , a waterfront park and a traffic circle that would become the new gateway to the city.

It’s a vision city officials have wholeheartedly embraced.

Despite the costs of road improvements and moving city offices, they said Tuesday that Portsmouth needed to press on with the recommended changes and redevelopment of several major downtown sites.

“In my experience, when a city does plans, they generally come true,” City Manager James B. Oliver Jr. said. “We have some really clear emphasis now.”

Earlier this year, Portsmouth enlisted the help of Gindroz’s company, Urban Design Associates, to better handle downtown development proposals.

Gindroz’ downtown waterfront development plan centers on five properties owned by Portsmouth – including the civic center parking lot, the Holiday Inn Olde Towne-Portsmouth and the vacant property across from City Hall – that generally are considered among the city’s most desirable pieces of real estate.

In fact, later the same evening, the council heard a presentation from a group looking to build a high-rise, multi use building on the Holiday Inn site.

The aging hotel is still operating, but city officials have discussed tearing it down and redeveloping the property.

Representatives of the Gee’s Group, a local development company, refused to comment as they left their meeting with council members, which was closed to the public.

The company is one of several that have expressed interest in the site.

But Gindroz on Tuesday advised city officials to focus their attention instead on the southern end of Crawford Street, closer to City Hall.

Top on his list of plans is improving the entrance to downtown from Interstate 264.

Instead of forcing drivers to snake through several blocks to Crawford Street, Gindroz has proposed straightening the boulevard, creating several new city blocks in the process, and leading people to a large traffic circle that would become the city’s new entrance.

“This is the most important thing that needs to be done,” he told the council Tuesday.

“The whole point of this is to get the city fixed, to repair the damage to the roads. This circle has great potential to become a major landmark in the region. This would be absolutely unique in this part of the country.”

Among the other recommendations in his plan:

nClosing the northbound lanes of Crawford Parkway, making the parkway a two-lane road and using the additional land for a waterfront city park.

nExtending the south end of Middle Street to High Street to repair the broken street grid.

nEventually moving City Hall and the courts and jail complex off the waterfront to make way for development.

nLuring private developers to build several new low-rise offices and residences near Crawford and Columbia streets and to build a high-rise tower, most likely for condominiums, on the vacant pier in front of the nTelos Pavilion at Harbor Center.

Oliver said the plan already had gained support from residents and developers who had talked and met with Gindroz as he developed his ideas.

Charles Twine is one of those supporters.

The downtown resident said he was thrilled with Gindroz’ plans to bring more residences and businesses there.

“It’s outstanding,” he said. “They need plans to get City Hall and the jail off such valuable property. The waterfront needs a new look.”

vdogg
June 21st, 2005, 06:19 PM
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The Trader Publishing construction site at Granby and Plume streets is an all-too-vivid example of the sounds of progress downtown. Pile-drivers, dump trucks and cranes can be heard for blocks. MATT EICH

By JEREMIAH MCWILLIAMS, The Virginian-Pilot
© June 21, 2005



NORFOLK — Andrea Rice said she could feel them in her soul. Wiley Francisco felt them through his art gallery’s concrete floor. They rattled the pictures in Chuck Rutter’s eyewear shop.

For about three months, shock waves rumbled through downtown Norfolk, courtesy of a 100-foot pile driver towering over the block-long Granby Street construction site that will house the electronic media operations of Trader Publishing Co.

“It’s more a nuisance than anything,” said Rice, the daytime manager at The 219 Restaurant , two blocks from the site. “It’s obnoxious. It was incessant, every day.”

About 850 steel-reinforced concrete piles have been pounded into the sandy soil to support the projected $51 million, 20-story structure, with more on the way. An additional 40 to 50 piles will be needed in coming weeks to stabilize the foundation for two tower cranes, which will lift the building’s frame into place. Each pile, stretching 70 feet or more, is about as long as a standard tractor-trailer.

For many working and shopping downtown, they are sounds of progress, likely to be duplicated in coming months by other projects, including a high-rise residential complex and a proposed hotel. The changing downtown creates challenges as well as opportunities for local businesses, temporarily constricting parking and jangling nerves while offering the promise of scores of new customers.

“It’s no longer a vehicle-friendly downtown – hasn’t been for a long time,” said Don Hornstein, who has operated Littman’s Pawn Shop on Granby Street since 1980. “We’ve all been used to pulling up in what was a cozy, somewhat empty downtown. Those days are gone, and they’re not coming back.”

Seven weeks ago, the pile-driving rumblings totaled 144 for the week. Last week, there were none. The locals say they have been inconvenient, but tolerable.

“With the doors closed, you kind of get used to it,” said Chris Bowman, who manages a deli, Famous Uncle Al’s, across the street from the construction, which runs between City Hall Avenue and Plume Street. “It becomes background noise.”

Francisco, co-owner of the Calvin & Lloyd art gallery on Granby Street, said his salon has “the best corner of downtown.” But, he added, “What I’m anxious for is for the parking to come back.”

It may never come back in force, he said.

In the past, “People were used to just jumping out of their cars and shopping,” Francisco said. “Well, you have to get over that.”

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Plans call for 1,600 workers in the office complex, with seven floors of parking and street-level retail. All told, there were will be 11 floors of office space and one floor dedicated to training and conferences.

Trader Publishing Co. is jointly owned by Cox Enterprises Inc. and Landmark Communications Inc., The Virginian-Pilot’s parent company. Now based in a seven-story building across the street from the construction site, Trader Publishing employs about 10,000 people nationwide, including nearly 1,000 in Norfolk and Virginia Beach.

“It’s going to bring a lot of jobs, and it’s going to bring a lot of business,” said Tres Bedell, who buses tables and tends bar at The Blue Hippo on Granby Street. “This going up, steadily making it a more enjoyable place, I think it’s great.”

Kesici Ibo, who started working in the clothing business as a 10-year-old in Turkey and now owns a tailor shop two doors from the site, agrees.

“If I’m still here, I’ll be rich,” he said. “Those people all need suits – they’ve got to look good.”

The Trader building is just one sign of an unprecedented pace of construction and development in downtown Norfolk, said Tim Polk, the city’s director of planning and community development.

“You used to have one, two, or three big projects every year,” Polk said. “Now, we’re talking to developers two or three times a week. They want to do deals. It’s big.”

Polk, responding to concerns about a shortage of parking, said the city will help make downtown parking available for workers, residents and tourists. He cited the recent construction of a 617-space parking garage at the intersection of Boush and Freemason streets. The city controls 80 percent of the parking spaces downtown, Polk said.

“Parking will definitely be taken care of,” he said. “You’re going to have some temporary interruptions, but the bottom line is that we’ve worked with business owners to minimize that.

“The noise, the traffic, more people on the street, are all part of the new Norfolk,” he said.

Cathy Coleman, executive director of the Downtown Norfolk Council, said solid planning will help local residents and workers deal with the noise, parking squeeze and other challenges.

“I think the goal is to have a downtown of a scale that creates an intimate pedestrian environment,” she said. “The vision is that people would do more than work here – it should be a place for people to live and shop.”

Coleman’s group is offering a carrot to go along with the proverbial stick – in this case, the concrete and steel piles: an expenses-paid night on the town to the person who correctly predicts when the pile-driving will end.

“I think everyone understands that’s the price of progress,” she said.

vdogg
June 29th, 2005, 04:02 PM
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=88491&ran=194685
120 condos approved as part of Town Center’s third phase

The Virginian-Pilot
© June 29, 2005

VIRGINIA BEACH — The City Council on Tuesday approved 120 condominiums for Town Center as part of a proposed 37-story hotel-condo tower.

Click here The tower will be built at Independence Boulevard and Columbus Street, across from Dick’s Sporting Goods. Immediately behind it will be the new Virginia Beach Performing Arts Theater.

The bottom of the tower will feature a Westin Hotel with 234 rooms.

The top of the tower will include 120 condos ranging in price from $400,000 to $2 million. The penthouse will have a social room and lounge for residents.

At 508 feet, the tower will be the tallest building in Hampton Roads.

It will include five floors of parking, plus a restaurant and shops on the ground floor.

Later this summer, the City Council is expected to agree to spend $14.4 million for 800 of the 944 parking spaces in the garage, $1.5 million for a pedestrian walkway, and $800,000 on sidewalks, lighting and other landscape improvements.

Council members Reba S. McClanan and Bob Dyer voted against the project. Dyer said he supported the project as a whole but couldn’t vote for the latest phase because of concerns that police and fire services would be stretched thin as more residents move into Town Center. Councilman Richard A. Maddox was absent.

The tower will be part of Town Center’s third phase. The first phase included the original Armada Hoffler Tower. The second phase includes a 14-story apartment building, now under construction.

A fourth and final phase, possibly including another office tower, is being planned.

Construction is to start soon on the performing arts center, which will replace the Pavilion theater. The Pavilion is to be demolished in August.

The tower will be developed by Town Center Associates, which includes Armada Hoffler Properties LLC and City Center Associates LLC. Private investment in the tower will total about $130 million.

Expat
August 11th, 2005, 05:37 PM
Wow! They are really doing some great things in Hampton Roads.

vdogg
September 28th, 2005, 01:34 AM
Haven't been back in a while so I thought i'd give an update. The dimesions of the tower have changed slightly. It is now 38 stories (36 residential floors and 2 mechanical) and 501 feet tall. Construction has commenced on this project, pile driving began last week. Here is the latest rendering.
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And a pic of work underway. :)

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verycoolnin
September 28th, 2005, 08:07 AM
And in front is a shot of the Westin construction at the Town Center. A couple more high-rises and the Town Center will have a nice little skyline.
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vdogg
September 29th, 2005, 05:44 PM
Proposed tower on edge of Norfolk downtown gets needed rezoning
By HARRY MINIUM, The Virginian-Pilot
© September 29, 2005

NORFOLK — Oswald Hoffler Jr., a Florida-based developer and Norfolk native, wants to push downtown’s borders east beyond Scope with an apartment tower that will reach as high as 20 stories.

Hoffler’s proposal to erect a $30 million apartment building at 549 E. Brambleton Ave. on Tuesday night received the City Council’s unanimous support , which granted him a necessary rezoning.

He plans to build 150 luxury apartments, ranging in size from 1,200 square feet to 4,000 square feet and renting from $1,300 to $1,800 a month. The first floor would include 10,000 square feet of retail space, including a bank and perhaps a restaurant, he said.

The building would be close to Church Street, the city’s traditional center of black culture, where the Attucks Theatre was recently renovated and site of the city’s monument to Martin Luther King Jr. stands.


City Councilman Paul R. Riddick said the proposal is important because Hoffler would be the first black businessman to invest in a big way in the hot downtown residential market.

But more important , Riddick said, Hoffler would push downtown development beyond downtown’s traditional borders into the St. Paul’s quadrant, an area bounded by St. Paul’s Boulevard, Brambleton Avenue and Tidewater Drive, where there is public housing and a mix of industrial and retail buildings.

“I’ve always believed we’ve always cut ourselves short in downtown,” Riddick said. “I think downtown should go to the edge of Church Street. It will give other people the opportunity to participate in what’s going on downtown.”

Hoffler said groundbreaking likely will occur next year. He said the apartments will be marketed largely to senior citizens and others tired of maintaining single-family homes.

Riddick said he visited a similar development Hoffler owns in West Palm Beach, Fla., in 2004.

“It was a very first-class facility,” he said. “It had a pool, underground parking, a gym and limousine service for seniors.”

Hoffler’s project would front Brambleton Avenue, but would have a 4-story, 250-space parking garage on Tulip Lane, which parallels Brambleton. Hoffler would demolish a small building on the site, which he owns.

He said he welcomes the mixed-income nature of the neighborhood.

“I’m not afraid of that,” he said, adding that such neighborhoods are the focus of much new urban development. “The redevelopment of downtown areas is all about having different incomes mixed in. It’s going to be an open building and an open community and everyone will be welcome.”

“It’s a very progressive development,” Mayor Paul D. Fraim said. “He’s really pushing the envelope. It’s very exciting stuff.”

Tim Polk, the city’s planning director, said the proposal is in keeping with the city’s plans for the area.

The entire St. Paul’s quadrant, including the Tidewater Gardens public housing community and the Downtown Plaza Shopping Center, which the city owns, is to be the subject of a study the city will soon be asking a private firm to conduct. The study could take a year to complete.

“This type of development is exactly what we’re looking for in that area,” Riddick said.


Reach Harry Minium at (757) 446-2371 or at harry.minium@pilotonline.com
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weill
October 17th, 2005, 04:32 AM
to many words, not enough pictures, half the pictures that are actually on here are :redx:

verycoolnin
November 12th, 2005, 01:56 AM
Well, you'll love this

The images were posted here http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=10034&st=680 by joe_builder. I believe he's working construction on the Trader Publishing tower. Plus some awesome picture of downtown Norfolk.

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Trader Publishing tower construction.

vdogg
November 14th, 2005, 11:48 PM
Condominium projects will remake Ocean View skyline

By HARRY MINIUM, The Virginian-Pilot
© November 13, 2005

NORFOLK –– The skyline of Ocean View is about to undergo a transformation.

click here For years, development in Ocean View has been small-scale. Houses and small clusters of condominiums and duplexes have replaced the deteriorating buildings the city and developers have torn down.

There is only one high-rise along the city’s 7½ miles of Chesapeake Bay beachfront.

But larger and taller condominium projects are coming, and with them, more traffic and more demands on old roads and utilities.

More than half a dozen developments are in the works that promise to remake three key entry points into Ocean View – at the base of the Hampton Roads Bridge-

Tunnel, at the 4th View exit off Interstate 64 and at the eastern entrance to Ocean View just off Shore Drive along Little Creek Inlet.

Most are mid rise condominiums, as tall as 10 stories, and more than 1,500 units in all.

A developer recently approached Councilman W. Randy Wright about building a 25-story condominium in East Ocean View.

“High-density development is coming to Ocean View,” Wright said. “It’s inevitable.

“There’s a demand for housing near the beach, and they’re not making any more beach property.”

Does the impending development mean that views of the water and access to the water will be reserved for condo dwellers or preserved for all residents? What will it mean for traffic and parking problems that already plague the area?

City officials need look only a few miles down Shore Drive to Lynnhaven Inlet in Virginia Beach to see what the future of Ocean View could be.

Norfolk officials say they want the affluence and diverse shopping available at the Beach. What they don’t want are the wall-to-wall condominiums and town houses that have consumed much of the Bayfront property and led to parking shortages and clogged roads.

“What happened on Shore Drive is not going to happen here,” vow ed City Councilman Donald L. Williams, a Willoughby resident. “Most of that land in Virginia Beach was zoned for condos, so developers just built them. Virginia Beach could not control the development there.”

Norfolk can. Most of Ocean View has been zoned for single-family homes, and much of the property on Little Creek Inlet is zoned industrial.

That means developers must receive the city’s permission to build condominiums. That has given the city’s planning department wide sway on how those developments will be fashioned.

The city is telling most developers to work with Raymond L. Gindroz, an urban designer from Pittsburgh under contract to the city for nearly two decades, before bringing projects to the Planning Commission and City Council.

Gindroz is telling developers to preserve water views and access to the water for all residents. He advocates creating an urban look in Ocean View that avoids surface parking, cookie-cutter buildings and the concrete exteriors prevalent in so many beach communities.

“We’re looking for the resort look that you may have seen here in the early 1900s, the big old resorts that aren’t here anymore,” Williams said.

Gindroz’s influence can especially be seen in The Spectrum at Willoughby Point, a

$200 million, 327-condominium and town house development that will be built on 15 acres beginning early next year at the base of the Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel.

When Virginia Beach developer A.R. “Rick” Gregor Jr. came to the city with his plans, he proposed what Williams called “concrete and glass condos,” the kind that sprouted along Shore Drive in Virginia Beach.

Gregor said Gindroz suggested major changes: moving the two tallest towers so they would be the first buildings seen by drivers coming across the bridge-tunnel; changing the exterior from concrete to cedar shake; replacing parking lots with parking on the first floor of the buildings, creating more open space; and varying the balconies, roof types and heights of buildings.

“When you come across the bridge-tunnel, you will see water on the other side,” Gregor said. “It was important that the water views not just be for the people living in the condos.

“It was more involvement than we’re used to, but at the end of the day, it made for a better project.”

Gindroz’s next project could be The Shoals, a 168-unit condominium and hotel development at the old Harrison’s Fishing Pier site at 4th View Street. The Boone family – Ronnie Boone Sr. and Judy Boone and their son, Ronnie Boone Jr. – have replaced Harrison’s Pier, which was destroyed by Hurricane Isabel, with the Ocean View Fishing Pier.

A restaurant has opened on the pier. The Boones plan a

$50 million development around the pier that will include condominiums, a small convention center, another restaurant and a hotel.

The Boones plan four buildings that will contain a mixture of condominiums and hotel rooms. The tallest could be eight stories, and they are designed to resemble the old Nansemond Hotel, the historic Ocean View hotel that once stood about 300 yards away .

Gindroz’s most ambitious work may be with half a dozen property owners in East Ocean View who plan developments around Little Creek Inlet.

Presently, the area has a mix of new upscale housing, including East Beach and Harbor Walk, and old industrial buildings, aging storefronts and deteriorated housing.

Two developers plan major projects there.

Steve Copeland, part owner of Taylor’s Landing Marina, has purchased a nearby strip shopping center that contains an exotic dancing club and a bookstore and also nearby, a car wash. He plans to replace them with a boat showroom, restaurant and coffee shop, and at least 36 condominiums.

He plans to break ground on the $20 million development, which could rise as high as 10 stories, next summer.

Developer Buddy Gadams is planning a 110-unit, $55 million condo development on the other side of the inlet along Pretty Lake Avenue that Gindroz is playing a key role in designing.

Gindroz shifted Gadams’ buildings slightly to retain water views. “It’s not just a bunch of buildings blocking Little Creek,” Gadams said.

The city has asked developers there to donate land to create a public walkway on the waterfront.

“Somebody jogging in that area would be able to do so right on Little Creek past all of the developments there,” Gadams said. “It’s a great idea.”

Gindroz said that “from the beginning, the thought has been to treat the entrances into Ocean View as gateways, as little town centers. We’re trying to create a sense of community.”

Vic Yurkovich, president of the Cottage Line Civic League, said his group will monitor the city’s stewardship of condo growth.

“We need high density,” he said. “We need that diversity so more people can live here.

“What our civic league would like to see is a high-rise for senior citizens. That seems to be something missing.”

Robby Hazelette, president of the Willoughby Civic League, said the city and developers have so far done a good job of seeking residents’ input.

Gindroz is doing a corridor study of Willoughby and met with the civic league last week.

“We have to figure out a way to deal with all of the high-density development that’s coming,” Hazelette said. “Willoughby is already bottlenecked because of the interstate. There has to be a commitment to improve all of the infrastructure.”

City officials said that work began years ago, when all of the utility lines underneath East Ocean View Avenue were replaced. A new intersection is planned at Shore Drive and Pleasant Avenue.

Officials also plan a second lane of traffic at 4th View that will lead into Willoughby.

“But there’s still so much more that needs to be done,” Wright said. “We’ve got drainage problems in some areas. We have curbing and sidewalks that need to be replaced. As the density increases, we’ve got to look at spending more money.”

Regardless, the planning process now under way will reverberate for decades, officials say.

“The time is right for mid-rise and high-rise development in Ocean View,” Williams said. “But we need to do it carefully, because we only get to do it once.”

Reach Harry Minium at (757) 446-2371 or harry.minium@pilotonline.com.
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November 16th, 2005, 02:59 PM
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willy
December 2nd, 2005, 01:34 PM
Deal reached for light rail segment in Norfolk

NORFOLK — The city has reached an agreement with Norfolk Southern Corp. to buy a five-mile segment of unused freight track for a proposed starter light rail line.

The purchase is the last of several tasks the Federal Transit Administration required of the city and Hampton Roads Transit, clearing the way for possible federal funding to build the 7.5-mile rail system.

The city will pay Norfolk Southern $5 million and will extend a discounted parking plan in a city garage next to the railroad’s downtown headquarters. The parking discount is worth an additional $2.6 million .

“This really is a significant day for the development of the Norfolk light rail line,” Mayor Paul D. Fraim said Thursday . “The acquisition of the tracks sends a strong message to the FTA that Norfolk is willing and committed to taking the necessary steps to insure the development of the light rail system.”

The route would go from Eastern Virginia Medical Center through downtown to Newtown and Kempsville roads. About 12,000 daily riders are projected.

In October , the FTA endorsed the $203.7 million project with several conditions, including the track purchase. The endorsement, which city and transit officials sought for years, usually all but guarantees that a project will be built.

Other conditions also have been met. The city adopted a new parking policy that limits future spaces downtown so that motorists would be encouraged to leave their cars home and take public transit. Plus, a review of the project’s capital costs is complete.

HRT hopes to get approval from the FTA within the next two months to start final design, which could take 18 months . Midway through that process, HRT will negotiate a federal funding agreement with the FTA.

Construction would start in late 2007 , and the line would begin carrying passengers in 2009 .

The financing plan calls for the federal government to pay about half of the construction cost. The rest would be divided among the city, the state and a regional federal transportation fund.

The right-of-way purchase price falls within the amount budgeted in the light rail financial plan submitted to the FTA, said Michael S. Townes , HRT president and CEO.

Norfolk is seeking funding from the General Assembly to cover the purchase through the governor’s new Commission on Transportation in Urbanized Areas. That group, chaired by W. Randy Wright , Norfolk city councilman and HRT commissioner, last month recommended that the state spend $216 million on transit needs statewide.

Charles W. “Wick” Moorman IV , Norfolk Southern CEO, said the railroad corridor is “tailor made” for light rail.

“It’s perfect for it,” he said. “I don’t know one that’s better anywhere.

“This is one more example of the city of Norfolk having a vision of where it wants to go to be a better place to live and work,” he added.

Early negotiations with Norfolk Southern for the entire 15-mile freight corridor into Virginia Beach were not fruitful. Norfolk Southern suspended talks for a short time last year because the railroad said the offer was too low to be taken seriously.

HRT, on behalf of Norfolk and Virginia Beach, offered $2.7 million for the right of way, which was appraised at $48.4 million.

The fair market value as of Jan. 1, 2003, on the five-mile stretch in Norfolk was assessed by the State Department of Taxation at $1.5 million . The 10-mile section in Virginia Beach was assessed at $5.8 million .

Talks resumed several months later when Norfolk began negotiating separately for its portion. Beach officials are still working out an arrangement to purchase the portion of the line in their city.

Norfolk Southern has sold unused rail corridors for transit projects in other locations, including Charlotte, Atlanta and New Jersey.


Reach Debbie Messina at (757) 446-2588 or debbie.messina@pilotonline.com.

vdogg
December 29th, 2005, 05:22 AM
By MATTHEW JONES, The Virginian-Pilot
© December 28, 2005 | Last updated 9:49 PM Dec. 28

NORFOLK — If the thousand-mile journey begins with a single step, then the skyscraper begins with a single pile.

Ninety-five feet long, 15,000 pounds, the first of these cement beams went into the ground Wednesday morning to support what will one day be the city’s tallest building, the

31-story Granby Tower.

Each pile’s journey underground began with a corkscrew-shaped auger mounted on the gargantuan diesel-powered driving rig, which drilled down 40 feet, churning through parking lot asphalt and soil that began the color of ground coriander and reddened to the tint of curry paste.

A trio of workers attached steel cables from the pile to the rig, which then swung the pile skyward, where it dangled like an enormous gray chopstick over its pre-drilled hole. The rig’s arm pivoted and lowered the pile into the ground, giving it a couple of taps to settle it before the hammering began.

Workers from Turner Construction Co., above, guide one of 15 cement beams into the ground Wednesday at the future site of Granby Tower.
Workers from Turner Construction Co. , above, guide one of 15 cement beams into the ground Wednesday at the future site of Granby To