is it right that the construction will start in June?

From where you got this info??

AltinD on SSP :D

here:

No, the plot is NOT underwater. Al Burj will be build ONSHORE and as they say in there, the hoarding is already erected on the site, and work is expected to start by June.

BTW, this NEVER was just a pipedream proposal.

True Altin, there is nearly no doubt this is now moving ahead but im a realist, just because something is very unlikely does not remove it from reality. :-)

Im not going to crack open the champagne bottle until we have an official announcement that the Al Burj has finally begun growing.

This is so exiting!! :P

Inshalla7 it will be built, i love the renders and designs of this building, its hollow shape

:okay:

If they build it, I'll buy you all a beer! :cheers:

then you must do this to 99% :lol:

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! READ THIS!!!!

Waterfront tower to be world’s tallest landmark
CONSTRUCTION UAE
16 Mar 2007

Al-Burj centrepiece set to dwarf Burj Dubai at 1,200 metres

The Al-Burj tower being planned by local real estate developer Nakheel will be the world’s tallest, according to those close to the project. Construction will begin later this year and form the centerpiece of the Madinat al-Arab at Dubai Waterfront.

The final height of the tower has not been confirmed but it will be taller than the Burj Dubai which is expected to exceed 800 metres. Companies involved in the project under pre-construction agreements last year have said the initial height was 1,600 metres but that was scaled back to 1,200 metres.

“The tower’s height is confidential but I can confirm it will be taller than the Burj Dubai,” says a source close to the project.

Nakheel has previously only said that Al-Burj will be one of the world’s tallest towers.

The piling and excavation package is due to be tendered soon. “We expect to receive documents in a few months,” says a local piling contractor.

The tower was originally conceived as the focal point of the Palm Jumeirah and known as the Pinnacle. It moved to Dubai Waterfront where it was renamed Al-Burj and received a major design overhaul (MEED 27:10:06).

The consultancy team is led by the UK’s WSP and includes Australia’s Van Der Meer Consulting and US-based Leslie E Robertson Associates. A US team of Pei Partnership Architects and Axis Design Group (ADG) completed the preliminary designs.

Two other kilometre-tall towers are planned in the region – the 1,001-metre Mubarak al-Kabeer in the Silk City project in Kuwait and a 1,022-metre tower in Manama, Bahrain.


R

its from meed.com btw...v.reliable!

R

then you must do this to 99% :lol:


I hope Dubai isn't full of you Germans because I will spend a lot for beer! ;)
For you ZZ-II: non-alcoholic beer! :D

Best news i've ever heard :eek2:

It moved to Dubai Waterfront where it was renamed Al-Burj and received a major design overhaul

wat does this mean?

R

"received a major design overhaul"

that means the've given the tower some changes in design ^^

Maybe they mean: Increasing the height from 750 to 1,200 meters. I doubt much has changed on the outside.

hopefully the basic concept will be the same. i'm sure they'll change the facade but i hope the 3-connected-tower shape will be the same

1200m !

http://primates.ximian.com/~jimmac/slides/tango/img/shocked.png

^^ I too hope the facade is changed, imagine how awe-inspiring if it was cladded mostly with glass. I love the three tower conjoined design its just the present facade reminds me of jumeirah beach residence with all the honey-comb like windows and I know no of us want to see the worlds tallest tower looking like it belongs in JBR:lol:

1200 m?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Today we have one of best architectural news in history!

I renamed the thread... looks pretty cool doesn't it ;)

I renamed the thread... looks pretty cool doesn't it ;)

^^
Oh yeah! :D
Maybe better: "1200 m", whatever...

Why is there no info on http://www.nakheel.ae/

great news but i still dont believe it until i see some proper renders..official renders

1200 meters is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo tall!!! it it it ... makes the BD look soo small!!!!!!!!! a percentage growth off 50%!!!!!!!!!!!

Why is there no info on http://www.nakheel.ae/


There won't be official announcement of the height I'm sure. This is a leak not an official announcement, but it sounds like a reliable leak.

Well, it's Nakheel. What did you expect?

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By 2017 I think the forum will be a plugin in VR like the matrix ;)

By 2017 I think the forum will be a plugin in VR like the matrix ;)

Hah yeah SSC by that time might just be a community something like the new "home" community for PS3, but with yourself imported :) .

What Al Burj may look like in comparason to Burj Dubai if there hasn't been any design changes to the exterior and if they were built side-by-side. Burj Dubai gets pwned. Very rushed using "Print Page" so your just going to have to use your imagination...:banana: :cheers: :cheers:

http://i17.tinypic.com/4cb4y9t.png

Is there not buuldings taller than this in development in Dubai. I remember SA boy saying he knew of plans for a 250f bulding, though in all truth, we know this to be completly serious.

1200 m?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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:rofl: how long it take you to do that mate :rofl:



1200 METERS?! BLOOODYYY HELLLLLLLLLLLL THATS HUGEEEE

MAN the 1600 METERS is just... :hammer:

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:rofl: that made my day

hehehe thats siickkk :D

no probably just the height.... 1500 m :D

May 2nd, 2005, 01:21 PM





Krazy, you tried to be fun before 2 years, but now it seems you didn't miss much! :D

Maybe they mean: Increasing the height from 750 to 1,200 meters. I doubt much has changed on the outside.


Congraditulations MALEC, seems like your 1th April "joke" become truth! :D

Malec & Krazy - Nakheel spies! :weird:

holy! i saw the future!

but don't you guys think with 1200m it'll have "only" 200F?

Floor Average 4m: with 200F i've calculated 800m.....400m until the Spire?

Well done Dubai, this is truly amazing.

1.2km is just mind boggling.

I do hope they improve the design of Al Burj though, it's a good design but at that height it needs to be a mind blowing design, something which is universally appealing like the Burj Dubai is.

Holy Hell.

YOu can totally put a 1:1 scale Burj Dubai inside that thing. Maybe a Sears and a JHC would be better. Wow, that thing is huge.

What I find interesting is that only one or two people are skeptical about this. Everyone else seems to treat it as a fact. Is the source really that reliable?

excellent news! now maybe this thread'll become as popular and as updated as the burj dubai thread!!!

OMG! :O

Well, as I said a few days ago, I wont be happy until we receive OFFICIAL confirmation of any further changes or developments pertaining to Al Burj.

1.2km is to much of a jump, I am VERY skeptical.

What I find interesting is that only one or two people are skeptical about this. Everyone else seems to treat it as a fact. Is the source really that reliable?

If you live in Dubai and/or knows Dubai very well, YES.

but don't you guys think with 1200m it'll have "only" 200F?

Floor Average 4m: with 200F i've calculated 800m.....400m until the Spire?


What about 246? We heard of that figure before. ;)

yes, that sounds better :)

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:rofl:

nice one, really good, even better than the 1.2km news which is nothing special..

didn't we expect it?
i am actually disappointed it won't be 1.6km.

anyway, it looks so much bigger than burj dubai.. incredible..

This 1,200 Meters would make all the other Skyscrapers in the world look short.

LOOK !! LOOOOK ! dude they are short =D

05/March/2006

Al Burj , Arabian Travel Market

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4978/img0779gg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

thank you imre, but this is still the shorter version

and this is from Nakheel sales center , 05/Dec/2006

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1678/img5152ex8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/3402/img5151di2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and From Cityscape 2006

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/4038/img5028mt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1936/img5029km9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/8088/img5031jx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/7176/img5032vi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ looks like 10 sections from that render... that's over 200 floors

the old with 7 sections was already 200F as far as i know

^^ indeed. the one in the sales centre had 6 sections, the ATM one 7, and the rendering shows 10.

246 should be our number.

but don't you guys think with 1200m it'll have "only" 200F?

Floor Average 4m: with 200F i've calculated 800m.....400m until the Spire?


It's probably impossible to build 400m spire! It's because of wind and static reasons (torque), construction floors will probably reach 1000m + 200m spire.

I am worry about static reasons: Burj Dubai structure is like a cone and it looks static perfect, but Al Burj construction looks very straight so I espect colossal foundations and massive reinforcement at bottom...

^^Perhaps, but bare in mind Al Burj has a unique 3 tower design connected at intervals throughout the length of the structure. This may have proven to be an efficient design in countering static reasons like BD does with its tiers.

Dubai is just outrageous i luv this city!!!!!!!

Guys I read the last pages but still can't quite understand, is this tower really approved or not?
Also you mention construction might start in 2007, or that they might wait for the Burj Dubai to make this Al Burj the WTB.
Everytime I come across the Dubai forums I get thrills at the thought of so many towers being built, I get adrenaline rushing, this is all so exciting! :D

lol guys I'm going back through the pages when in November 2005 I was asking questions and getting info about this, and over 16 months later, we get this announcement!

And DubaiBoy who made this post:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=6516785&postcount=287
:D
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And DubaiBoy who made this post:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=6516785&postcount=287
:D

thank you thank you , in your face dubai_lover :banana:

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What a freaky great idea :D:D:D:D:D The future begins now!!!! :banana:

Oh and i forgot to mention the milehigh hydroponic and regular greenhouses :)

BTW, how deep will the hole be?? 200 meters??
Will we have the problem, that the tower is too weighty and Al Burj will sink??

Seriously... what percent of a 1.2km tower floor area will be usable space?? I can't imagine how much bloody MEP services have to be accommodated for.... pipes, elevators, plant rooms.... Some serious engineering = very exciting!

I just realized that we have known about this massive height plans since 2005.. we just never believed Nakheel!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=266575&highlight=mile

BTW, how deep will the hole be?? 200 meters??
Will we have the problem, that the tower is too weighty and Al Burj will sink??

They will probably add some emulsions deep below foundations, also foundation must be very large board for distribute compresion as wider as possible.
Whatever, even if it sink floor or two, who will notice that?! :lol:

I just realized that we have known about this massive height plans since 2005.. we just never believed Nakheel!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=266575&highlight=mile

:rofl:

but they've reduced the height to 1200m, it's absolutely enought i think

^^ looks like 10 sections from that render... that's over 200 floors

Exactly what I predicted last april!! :cheers:

:D

^^ you want us to call you the new prophet and worship you?

anyway, Nakheel has indeed been giving out hints for months which we thought are only theoretical studies or proposals..

Exactly what I predicted last april!! :cheers:

:D


Maybe they stole your idea, take a lawyer and sue Nakheel, ask for few millions of compensation! :lol:

height added on emporis

great, can't wait to see that. status is still proposed or?

yes it will be a proposal till nakheel officially launch the tower. we can forget about this being "approved" on emporis for a while.

Hmmmm consider this:
In the Lord of the Rings, the tower where Saurons eye is settled is 1500 meters tall.
Nakheel builds a 1200 meters tower.
Comes close to reality isnt it :) :lol:

I realy like the hideous super high design off this thing: It is more real useable then architectonical height (see Burj Dubai). And that is wicked.

Hmmmm consider this:
In the Lord of the Rings, the tower where Saurons eye is settled is 1500 meters tall.
Nakheel builds a 1200 meters tower.
Comes close to reality isnt it :) :lol:Not really.

I dont actually think its hideous, I think its beautiful :-)

I dont actually think its hideous, I think its beautiful :-)

Me too. It's not graceful like Burj Dubai, but that's a good thing. One super-super-tall will be graceful and "pretty", the other will be powerful and imposing.

Hmmmm consider this:
In the Lord of the Rings, the tower where Saurons eye is settled is 1500 meters tall.
Nakheel builds a 1200 meters tower.
Comes close to reality isnt it :) :lol:

Saurons tower, Barad-dûr, is hardly reality. Its in a book and a film. Fiction. Not real. :lol: :nuts:
I do like Al Burj however and will be waiting for an updated design.

Why does it say "APPROVED" in the title?

Hi all.
Does anyone have any shots of the site ?
Does anyone have an aerial that shows where the site is exactly ?
Thanx in advance. :cheers:

As far as I know, Nakheel has not released information about where exactly the plot is going to be.

guess wats back in the news:

VDM picks up a ‘Tall Tower’
by ArabianBusiness.com staff writer on Saturday, 24 March 2007 Australia's Van Der Meer Consulting (VDM) has won a US $2.8 million (AED10.3 million) subcontract to provide structural engineering consultancy services on a tower to be built on Nakheel's Dubai Waterfront.

According to the company, the project is to be called Tall Tower. WSP is the main consultant, while VDM and US-based LERA are the subconsultants.

According to the statement from VDM, "the Tall Tower will be a super-tall building even by Dubai standards and will form the focal point of the new Dubai Waterfront development".

Nakheel has in the past referred to Al Burj, which is billed as being the tallest tower in the world, as the focal point of the project.

A spokesperson from WSP said: "It is for the same tower that was initially called Al Burj, but I think they just can't decide on the name at the moment, so they've called it the Tall Tower."

R

Well, I think that Dubai will be the highest city in the world for many years.

Tall Tower? are they serious? whats wrong with Al Burj?

Tall Tower? are they serious? whats wrong with Al Burj?

Doesn't "al burj" just mean "the tower"? Tall Tower, The Tower, Dubai Tower (Burj Dubai)... these people aren't very creative when it comes to names.

^^, think you know that dubai has actually a tower with the name "the Tower"

Read the article. "Tall Tower" probably won't be the final name. They have just decided not to call it Al Burj, which is probably good considering that casual foreign observers would constantly be getting confused between "Burj Dubai" and "Al Burj", anyway they just haven't come up with the final name yet. I'm predicting that within a month, they will officially launch the project, at which time we will get the name as well as renders of the new design.

...and some construction updates.

i think when construction has started imre will make updates every 2 weeks or so

would he? driving all the way to the palm jebel ali area? :O but then again, once construction starts on al burj/Tall Tower, then construction will start on palm jebel ali too!

i think he would, but of course not so often like Burj Dubai. 2 weeks or even one month is enough i think

Keep in mind that the piling packagge hasn't been tendered yet, so it will be many months before construction can start.

True they said site work will start in June, but that is just cleaning and leveling the site, propably collecting soil samples, needed for designing the foundations of the building.

we will see :)

The beach tower...

^^ TRUMP Waterfront Central. :nuts:

Was wondering and not just a joke. I know some mountains in the UAE get snow, how high are they since this might be tall enough to get some itsself. :)

BTW at over 1000m it can be classed as a mountain. It's actually bigger than any here in Ireland :D

^^

Was wondering and not just a joke. I know some mountains in the UAE get snow, how high are they since this might be tall enough to get some itsself. :)

BTW at over 1000m it can be classed as a mountain. It's actually bigger than any here in Ireland :D

In general, temperature decreases by about .65 degrees for every 100 meters of elevation. So, the top of Al Burj would be about 7.8 degrees cooler than the base. Snow starts at a little above 2 degrees, so it would snow at the top if the ground temperature reached 10 degrees. Does it ever get that cold in Dubai?
Of course, this is theoretical and doesn't take into account possible thermal inversions, or deviations in the .65 degree rate, which is just an average and doesn't take into account turbulence in the atmosphere or the amount of moisture in the air. I think in some extreme cases the decrease can be as much as 1 degree per 100 meters, which would only require the ground temperature to be about 14 for it to snow at the top.

yeah it does reach 10 degrees.

in the night as far as i know or?

The lowest I experienced was 9 degree Celcius. However all these figures do not consider the chill factor.

This winter it was really cold, while the termometer showed mid teens, the wind (comming from Siberia, mind you) were freaking cold.

The hopefully first construction picture.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1026/imresolt03bc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

are we sure that's the real site ?

Nope, only guessing. Check the waterfront thread for more info on this

The title says "approved". How do we know it's approved?

Stephan. I think this is just soil testing? Maybe the boarding but the machines are taking soil samples I think..

1.2 km high? I WANT TO BOOK MY APARTMENT TODAY!

where did this picture come from?

where did this picture come from?

from imre:

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1026/imresolt03bc1.jpg

imre has only posted the pic. it comes from nakheel as far as i know

Ive heard that Sheikh Mo has said that the Al Burj can not be as big as Burj as he wants the worlds tallest building to be in the city, any ideas ????

but isnt this supposed to be the new city?

but isnt this supposed to be the new city?

^^
It is but from what i understand Emaar want the biggest skyscraper & then Nakheel wanted it so to appease Nakheel he has allowed them to build the biggest shopping centre. Dont shot the messenger:nuts: any ideas ?:banana:

i wasnt shootin lol i was jus askin a question too:lol: but I hope Al Burj is 1.2km, imagine that!

i wasnt shootin lol i was jus askin a question too:lol: but I hope Al Burj is 1.2km, imagine that!

In all honesty i couldnt agree more, can you imagine having an apt in that, WOW !!!! What a view of the Palms & the world :banana:

^^ no view :D too much haze and dust..

anyway, Nakheel biggest mall.. just after Bawadi announcement?

^^ no view :D too much haze and dust..

anyway, Nakheel biggest mall.. just after Bawadi announcement?

^^
Bawadi ????

I take it this is a new mall where is this going to be ?

^^ I don't know where all the kids here get the idea that there will be a Shopping Mall in Al Bawadi.

It is not a Shopping Mall. :bash:

That 40 million sq.ft. GLA is the total retail place that the project will offer, and comprises shops on the hotels, on the underground galleria connecting them or stand alone complexes, if any. :ohno:

BTW pauldxb, that "kids comment" was not directed at you.

underground galleria??

^^ I don't know where all the kids here get the idea that there will be a Shopping Mall in Al Bawadi.

It is not a Shopping Mall. :bash:

That 40 million sq.ft. GLA is the total retail place that the project will offer, and comprises shops on the hotels, on the underground galleria connecting them or stand alone complexes, if any. :ohno:

^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
No offence taken, i wish i was still a kid

underground galleria??

Yes, like in Toronto. Didn't you read the press release?

^^ wise words altin will cry about.

^^ I don't know where all the kids here get the idea that there will be a Shopping Mall in Al Bawadi.

It is not a Shopping Mall. :bash:

That 40 million sq.ft. GLA is the total retail place that the project will offer, and comprises shops on the hotels, on the underground galleria connecting them or stand alone complexes, if any. :ohno:

i very well know that this is not a shopping mall, indeed i pointed it out in the gossip thread at first!!

So please know the facts first, as you like to say ;)

However it does not make any difference since the project adds another 40m sqft GLA to Dubai's retail market, no matter if it is in one single mall or big complex.

Olive takes on Nakheel tower
by ArabianBusiness.com staff writer on Saturday, 12 May 2007

Olive Group has been appointed to work on Nakheel's Tall Tower project on Dubai Waterfront as security risk and system design consultants.

The Tall Tower - which has also been referred to as Al Burj - will be the focal part of the 140 million m2 development, and has been billed as being the tallest tower in the world.

"It's a privilege for Olive Group to be involved in a landmark project that supports the strategic vision of Dubai," said Chris St George, managing director, Olive Group.

"Our role demonstrates our capability to deliver technology-led security solutions and is illustrative of our growing portfolio of major projects across the region."

In March, Australia's Van Der Meer Consulting (VDM) won a US $2.8 million (AED10.3 million) subcontract to provide structural engineering consultancy services on the tower.

WSP is the main consultant, while US-based LERA is the subconsultant.

R

I made the tower a bit taller. This should be about 1.200m i doubled the middle segments of the tower fro the original 750m version. the bottom and top were unchanged (due to the fact that it is 1.200m and not 1.500m)

enjoy

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1184/albu32muau4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1184/albu32muau4.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=albu32muau4.jpg)

as an overview

WTF lOL

its like a goddam nevereding tower...:crazy:

stairway to Heaven... :|

i had to scroll for quite some time! to get to the bottom!

:okay:

Hey guys,

new to this forum, been following this and BD for some time but I cant find answers to 2 questions I have...

Has it been approved ?


Is it going to be taller than BD or have the agreed to let BD be the tallest ?


Thanks


over 1000m what an achievement.:banana:

Has it been approved ?


No. (Although for some reason it says "approved" in the thread title.)

Hey guys,
Is it going to be taller than BD or have the agreed to let BD be the tallest ?


We don't know the official hight of ether tower.

Welcome to the forum Wiki! :)



Has it been approved ?



As far as we know, yes. It is speculated by the media and the skyscraper community that it is now referred to as 'Tall Tower'. Scroll through the thread and you will find several media releases about contractors being awarded contracts for it.



Is it going to be taller than BD or have the agreed to let BD be the tallest ?



This one is still slightly hazy.

The Burj Dubai is set to be anywhere between 705m and 1011m with my own estimate at approx 808m. The Al Burj is going to be anywhere between 750m and 1600m with again my own estimate at 1200m. So as you can see, its most probable that the Al Burj will be taller however there is the possibility it wont be, however unlikely this is. Until Burj Dubai tops out and we can confirm the height of Al Burj, this question cannot be answered with certainty.

Wikidboo, A lot of questions will be answered when it is officially launched. All signs suggest that this will be very soon.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1184/albu32muau4.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=albu32muau4.jpg)

as an overview


15 sections... Are you crazy?! :bash:
It would be 300 floors.

who will launch this project? Bhomes? I want to make sure I do not miss out on this one!

^^ Why should the suckers at Betterhomes be involved?

This is a NAKHEEL project and it should be launched by Dubai Waterfront Properties.

lol there will be a new shopping mall in al bawadi and it will be the largest in the world. i am sure it will be larger than both Dubai mall and the mall of arabia

imagine an msf "run up the stairs till the top" type competition there!

imagine an msf "run up the stairs till the top" type competition there!

The tower will get messy!!! Full of dead bodies! :lol:

Hey guys,

new to this forum, been following this and BD for some time but I cant find answers to 2 questions I have...

Has it been approved ?


Is it going to be taller than BD or have the agreed to let BD be the tallest ?


Thanks


over 1000m what an achievement.:banana:

Welcome to the forum, if it gets the OK then yes i think it will be taller than BD, i cant believe that this tower was originally supposed to be on Palm Jumeriah

What an exciting time for skyscraper fans....after 9/11 I thought the times of building tall had gone.
I was at the Stratosphere in vegas earlier this year and to think that the "proposed" height of Al Burj would be almost 3 times taller is unbelievable.

What an exciting time for skyscraper fans....after 9/11 I thought the times of building tall had gone.
I was at the Stratosphere in vegas earlier this year and to think that the "proposed" height of Al Burj would be almost 3 times taller is unbelievable.

Vegas is awesome, it always amazes me how people compare Dubai with Vegas in derogatory terms, probably never been there. Best description I heard for it was "disneyland for adults". If Dubai can emulate Vegas in any way, gambling or not, then as a business proposition it can't fail.

I'll be there in a few weeks for the WSOP. Can't wait..........:banana: :cheers: :banana: :cheers:

Vegas is awesome, it always amazes me how people compare Dubai with Vegas in derogatory terms, probably never been there. Best description I heard for it was "disneyland for adults". If Dubai can emulate Vegas in any way, gambling or not, then as a business proposition it can't fail.

I'll be there in a few weeks for the WSOP. Can't wait..........:banana: :cheers: :banana: :cheers:

I hope Dubai never emulates Vegas....in any way.....and it probably never will!
Most of those things that take place in Vegas are totally against Islam

I hope Dubai never emulates Vegas....in any way.....and it probably never will!
Most of those things that take place in Vegas are totally against Islam

You're kidding yourself !! :nuts:

All of the things that go on in Vegas, that are against Islam, are already in plentiful supply in Dubai. Go to the Dubai World cup, gamble on a horse, have a few beers, and finish the night off in Cyclone and you've covered pretty much all the Anti-Islamic activities that Vegas has to offer.

Only difference is that Vegas is honest about it.

richard.. shhhhhhhhhh
the cops might be in on us and close up the whole thing..:lol:


You're kidding yourself !! :nuts:

All of the things that go on in Vegas, that are against Islam, are already in plentiful supply in Dubai. Go to the Dubai World cup, gamble on a horse, have a few beers, and finish the night off in Cyclone and you've covered pretty much all the Anti-Islamic activities that Vegas has to offer.

Only difference is that Vegas is honest about it.

You're kidding yourself !! :nuts:

All of the things that go on in Vegas, that are against Islam, are already in plentiful supply in Dubai. Go to the Dubai World cup, gamble on a horse, have a few beers, and finish the night off in Cyclone and you've covered pretty much all the Anti-Islamic activities that Vegas has to offer.

Only difference is that Vegas is honest about it.

You are wrong. You cannot get a lapdance inside Cyclone.

actually...:D .. you can get more than a lapdance...if you're cool enough..:lol:


You are wrong. You cannot get a lapdance inside Cyclone.

actually...:D .. you can get more than a lapdance...if you're cool enough..:lol:

Cool as in ... :lol:

Cool as in ... :lol:

As in you have 500 Dirhams to spend and no issues if you take a dose home.

^^ We were talking about what's happen inside the Cyclon, not on what might or not happen after you leave. :D

Hey just because all this shit is taking place, doesnt mean its right...over here atleast!

LOL!

...but something else thats not right is threads being hijacked!!! :bash:

Please stay on topic :D

Hey just because all this shit is taking place, doesnt mean its right...over here atleast!

Who is the authority on what's right and what's wrong? You ? People will do what they enjoy. Some people obey constraints imposed by their religion, some don't. Many emiratis and other muslims choose those elements of the religious practice that suit them, and find excuses for the rest. I was in Malaysia last year, at the biggest casino in Asia they were falling over themselves to welcome the GCC nationals during the summer, some of these guys book a hotel room for 3 months and spend vast amounts of money on gambling, drinking, blah blah blah. Just like Vegas but a shorter flight.

At the end of the day, in Dubai perhaps even more so than in most societies, money talks. Dubai will do what it needs to do to keep the tourist dollar rolling in. Maybe that won't go as far as casinos, but on the other hand why not, is gambling MORE anti-Islamic than alcohol, or the Pork section in Spinneys, or the meat counter at Cyclone? If not, same rules can apply, the government of Dubai make massive revenue from the import of alcohol at 50%import duty.

So, to summarize, right now Vegas is awesome, and i'm going soon and will have a lot of good times, but come 2015 when the Dubai glorious plan is done, then Vegas Schmegas, we'll all be able to do the same stuff here, only better. Happy Days.

Herr Rikard von Kopf.

I hope Dubai never emulates Vegas....in any way.....and it probably never will!
Most of those things that take place in Vegas are totally against Islam

LOL at religion.

I hope Dubai never emulates Vegas....in any way.....and it probably never will!
Most of those things that take place in Vegas are totally against Islam

those things are totally agains any religion, but they produce a lot of money... I'm sorry to say, but look at the western world: money comes first, then religion, even in a religios country as the US. sooner or later that will also happan in Dubai, it's inevitable. If people smell money, they'll do anything to get it.

those things are totally agains any religion, but they produce a lot of money... I'm sorry to say, but look at the western world: money comes first, then religion, even in a religios country as the US. sooner or later that will also happan in Dubai, it's inevitable. If people smell money, they'll do anything to get it.

Since when is drinking, gambling and lapdancing against any religion? As far as i'm concerned it IS a religion. :cheers: :devil: Can't find the lapdancing emoticon, you'll have to make do with this cheerleader :cheer:

But apart from that your point is valid, even though I said the same thing in a much more logwinded way 2 posts before.

Money talks, the rest is just details.

Who is the authority on what's right and what's wrong? You ? People will do what they enjoy. Some people obey constraints imposed by their religion, some don't. Many emiratis and other muslims choose those elements of the religious practice that suit them, and find excuses for the rest. I was in Malaysia last year, at the biggest casino in Asia they were falling over themselves to welcome the GCC nationals during the summer, some of these guys book a hotel room for 3 months and spend vast amounts of money on gambling, drinking, blah blah blah. Just like Vegas but a shorter flight.

At the end of the day, in Dubai perhaps even more so than in most societies, money talks. Dubai will do what it needs to do to keep the tourist dollar rolling in. Maybe that won't go as far as casinos, but on the other hand why not, is gambling MORE anti-Islamic than alcohol, or the Pork section in Spinneys, or the meat counter at Cyclone? If not, same rules can apply, the government of Dubai make massive revenue from the import of alcohol at 50%import duty.

So, to summarize, right now Vegas is awesome, and i'm going soon and will have a lot of good times, but come 2015 when the Dubai glorious plan is done, then Vegas Schmegas, we'll all be able to do the same stuff here, only better. Happy Days.

Herr Rikard von Kopf.

^^

Right on !!!!

I have been at camel races in Dubai & heard locals on their cell phones to London placing bets, everywhere & everyone to a cretain level is corrupt its just its not talked about in Dubai,' there is the side of Dubai that your are allowed to see & talk about & then there is the side that doesn't exist but yes it actually does.' thats my one & only comment on this subject, know who was saying what about Al Burj ????

who will launch this project? Bhomes? I want to make sure I do not miss out on this one!

:rofl:

I believe it might just be Diamond Investments or Dubai Select.. or better yet.. DAMAC!

I hope Dubai never emulates Vegas....in any way.....and it probably never will!
Most of those things that take place in Vegas are totally against Islam
I 2nd that :yes:

I 2nd that :yes:

So that's 2 of you then, which makes you totally outnumbered. Thanks anyway, i'm still going to Vegas.

Any way this discussion could be moved to Sky Majlis? I keep seeing updates in this thread and thinking in vain that there's been an announcement :)

^^ Why should the suckers at Betterhomes be involved?

This is a NAKHEEL project and it should be launched by Dubai Waterfront Properties.

why Dubai waterfront properties..

PLEASE CAN AN ADMIN PUT A STOP TO THIS HIJACK!!!!

what do you mean???

why Dubai waterfront properties..

Oups. I don't mean the ones who stole your Marina map, rather the company that was created to develop the Madina Al Arab in Dubai Waterfront.

My render of Al Burj:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6201/alburjpw4.jpg

:)

Small version (better visibility):

http://imgcash3.imageshack.us/Himg516/scaled.php?server=516&filename=alburjpw4.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

well the number of 246 to250 Floors is floating around... makes 12 sections
and a half. so the propper one is the middle between your version and mine...

:cheers:

well the number of 246 to250 Floors is floating around... makes 12 sections
and a half. so the propper one is the middle between your version and mine...

:cheers:

Julito with 666th post... :no:

OK you Evil... here is 12 sections:

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/47/alburjtwodr5.jpg

Smaller one:

http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/Himg261/scaled.php?server=261&filename=alburjtwodr5.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

lol, there is no way the final design will be that^^ :P

They most likely will extend the masts at top and make the tower wider if they were going to use this design, which they will not. :)

In this design, it looks like a giant slug !!!

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1672/alburjtwodr5ga5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ And in that picture, the slug looks like it has a collar :P

it looks kinda ugly. pretty boring compared to the burj dubai

672 messages and not one official new render :(

^^ 673 now

it looks kinda ugly. pretty boring compared to the burj dubai

You really think this?? :lol:

We will see it for real and can compare in a few years :):):)

The only thing i liked in this building, was the round hole in the centre (the one in the nakheel video....where all those limos park!)

^^ yeah that was a cool part

the design for this is nowhere near as flawless or classy as Burj Dubai. BD has like 'glamorous' written all over it. :)

I think its because of the silver/grey glass facade! :rock: This one has no glass!! :bash:

I think its because of the silver/grey glass facade! :rock: This one has no glass!! :bash:

Very true, the Al burj is being made with a concrete outer covering and the Burj Dubai with a glass outer covering. Concrete is out, glass is in!

Very true, the Al burj is being made with a concrete outer covering and the Burj Dubai with a glass outer covering. Concrete is out, glass is in!

Why?
Glass become pretty boring for me...

Well just concrete wouldn't look as majestic! It would just look like a monolithic structure.....and not an amazing building!

OK im not good with words but u get the idea!

To me monolithic = majestic. If the tower will look like it has in the waterfront promo render, than it will be just gorgeous. I loved that design.

The wikipedia article on Al Burj says "There's indeed evidence from the latest renditions that height increases have been made. One of these renders even shows the tower with more than 200 floors."

Which render do they mean? Does anyone know? I'm wondering if they are changing the design for the hieght increas. Just to make it longer might look a bit boring.

beats me...

The wikipedia article on Al Burj says "There's indeed evidence from the latest renditions that height increases have been made. One of these renders even shows the tower with more than 200 floors."

Which render do they mean? Does anyone know? I'm wondering if they are changing the design for the hieght increas. Just to make it longer might look a bit boring.

Check the wiki article again. Click on the render and count the floors, there should be around 200 there. Now that version has 7 sections (not including the very top). Next click on one of the other renders on the wiki page, you'll see it has 11 sections. :yes:

^^ So......which one is the right one? 7 or 11 sections?

Nobody knows, yet

The 11 section render is simply a photoshop of the original. Its a mockup of what the old design would look like if it had a few more sections stacked on top of it. There is no way the 11 section version will be built in those dimensions.

^^ He's not talking about that render. He's talking about the one, I think it was from cityscape, that shows the whole waterfront and the 11 section Al Burj is in the distance. You can find it at the bottom of the Wikipedia page, or probably by rooting back through this thread.

BUTTUGLY tower, sorry... The Burj Dubai in construction is much better and by the way: They should change the name... "Al Burj" is way too similar to "Burj Dubai" or "Burj al Arab", it should be more innovative at the Persion Guld I think ;)

^^ Well "BURJ in Arabic = TOWER in English"

If they do what you said, then they have to change the names of all the 'towers 'in the world!

i cant wait for a new render, seriously it's driving me to drink

^^ You're like 5 years too young to drink :lol:

^^Thats what i thought when I read it :lol:

Still, I can relate, life just doesnt have any meaning anymore... ;)

^^ Now that you're talking about it, I remember an American TV movie where in background I got a glimse of a sign saying: "Consuption of alcohol and beer in the park is not allowed" ... so maybe he's not so young afterall, since the 21 age limit is for alcohol :D


BTW (to be back on-topic) wasn't our own malec that wrotte the Wikipedia article?

^^ Now that you're talking about it, I remember an American TV movie where in background I got a glimse of a sign saying: "Consuption of alcohol and beer in the park is not allowed" ... so maybe he's not so young afterall, since the 21 age limit is for alcohol :D


BTW (to be back on-topic) wasn't our own malec that wrotte the Wikipedia article?

Maybe they were specifically prohibiting O'Doules non-alcoholic beer :) But since Adrian Smith Fan is like 16, he probably drinks wine coolers when the police aren't watching. :lol:

Yes, Malec wrote the lion's share of the Al-Burj article, though a few people have made some changes as well. It always humors me when people quote wikipedia on this forum to support an idea, not realizing that most of the wikipedia content for skyscrapers comes from this site. The burj dubai article still quotes dubaimegaprojects.com with 1011meter final height, even after someone (can't remember who :) ) disproved it.

well i do drink, but i dont say anything to my probation officer. and i dont have to worry about my mom finding out cuz i dont live with my family. so i do what i want ;)

CAN WE GET BACK ON TOPIC?

There isn't really a topic to get back to. I firmly believe that June will be the month we get the new design and new name though.

i hope we'll hear some news this month but have the feeling we still have to wait

is a date known when sales will start?

is a date known when sales will start?

I hope soon .

This is for you Minime , I found today in the Ibn Battuta Mall:) ( I think I have already posted)

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/354/imresolt198sg0.th.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt198sg0.jpg)

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5493/imresolt199ld4.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt199ld4.jpg)

he he he. I noticed last time. They stole my nick. :) Now I either have to burn the place down, change my nick or live with it. I would have preferred the pre-mamam chain would have named themselves after dubaiflo.

i hope they redesign this tower.. and make it iconic,

it should have a unique modren elegant design like Burj Dubai

i hope they redesign this tower.. and make it iconic,

it should have a unique modren elegant design like Burj Dubai

Sure, there should be some changes made to Al Burj... but still, it certainly beats Burj Dubai anyday! I'm not very impressed with Burj Dubai! I dunno, it just doesn't do it for me!? I'm sure once the building is topped out and the cladding is complete it will look pretty awesome, but to be honest, Burj Dubai just doesn't grab me the same way Al Burj does!

The very fact that Al Burj will :yes: be the world's tallest skyscraper ever makes it iconic!

Sure, there should be some changes made to Al Burj... but still, it certainly beats Burj Dubai anyday! I'm not very impressed with Burj Dubai! I dunno, it just doesn't do it for me!? I'm sure once the building is topped out and the cladding is complete it will look pretty awesome, but to be honest, Burj Dubai just doesn't grab me the same way Al Burj does!

The very fact that Al Burj will :yes: be the world's tallest skyscraper ever makes it iconic!

Not for very long it won't. I met somebody at the weekend who is working on Burj Dubai and is very very senior. Saudi has a building in the pipeline that is quote "twice the height of Burj Dubai", design is complete and has already passed wind tunnel testing.

^^Elaborate plz :)

^^ The building by Prince AlWaleed bin Talal Al Saud.

^^ To be build in Jeddah

Not for very long it won't. I met somebody at the weekend who is working on Burj Dubai and is very very senior. Saudi has a building in the pipeline that is quote "twice the height of Burj Dubai", design is complete and has already passed wind tunnel testing.


Richard, maybe I'm missin' something here...??? But isn't the Al Burj meant to be waaaaaaay taller than the Burj Dubai? I was led to believe (obviously wrongly now it would seem:wallbash: ) that Al Burj will be twice the height of Burj Dubai, or at the least a good 400m above it anyway!? And this is why they are waiting to see how high up they are going with Burj Dubai, right?

Are there any renders available for this Saudi building? Twice the height of Burj Dubai huh? WOAH MAN!!! I gotta see that with my own eyes!!!:nuts: Must be between 250-300 floors, eh? Or more?

That is some serious height!!!:omg: :dizzy: :banana: :banana: :banana:

^^ To be build in Jeddah

but not in the near future or?

Heard today from a cousin of mine in Dubai that there are two apartments for sale in Burj Dubai. One on the 27th floor (2 bedroom) and the other on the 94th floor (3 bedroom).

94th floor sounds good to me!:okay:

^^ Another person that needs to elaborate!! lol:bash:

Where did he get that info? How much for the appartments?

^^ Have you checked your blood pressure lately?:fiddle:

Apartment on 94th floor: 10,500,000 AED
Apartment on 27th floor: 4,300,000 AED

SHE got that information from a guy who is currently working on the cladding on Burj Dubai!

hehehe, you obviously didnt notice the 'lol' at the end of my statment :P

Anyway, what was the site Sky Tower posted up some time ago!? The one advertising the cost of a couple of units within the tower?

^^ Of course I saw it, just yankin' yer chain is all bud!:fart: :nuts: :lol: :hilarious

Don't know the name of that site you're lookin' for mate, why not just drop Sky Tower a message?

Interested in one of those apartments in Burj Dubai? If so, then good luck with that!:okay: I'll be very annoyed though if you take that apartment on 94!:badnews: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Not for very long it won't. I met somebody at the weekend who is working on Burj Dubai and is very very senior. Saudi has a building in the pipeline that is quote "twice the height of Burj Dubai", design is complete and has already passed wind tunnel testing.

sounds very interesting :D but we will make sure we get the WTB :D

Not for very long it won't. I met somebody at the weekend who is working on Burj Dubai and is very very senior. Saudi has a building in the pipeline that is quote "twice the height of Burj Dubai", design is complete and has already passed wind tunnel testing.

Yes.... But it is still SA.... The only positive thing is that if you are there up high enough, you might get a glimpse of Dubai.... Nope... Dubai or bust for me! And I think that will count for countless investors. :banana:

Yes.... But it is still SA.... The only positive thing is that if you are there up high enough, you might get a glimpse of Dubai.... Nope... Dubai or bust for me! And I think that will count for countless investors. :banana:

Not promoting Saudi as an investment choice, couldn't agree more. Can't imagine anyone with any sense investing there, other than Saudi's of course.

Would love to be able to elaborate on what I heard, but that's all I got. You'll just have to trust me that this was from an extremely reliable source.

^^ Last year, Saudi Arabia attracted more foreign invetments than UAE..


Little info on the proposed tower,
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=485206

^^ says who???

^^ Yeah, says who?

Sounds a bit :nuts: to me!

^^ Last year, Saudi Arabia attracted more foreign invetments than UAE..


Little info on the proposed tower,
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=485206

UAE pulls in almost one third of foreign investment in Middle East.
GULF NEWS-Business section- 13.06.2007

guys, can you please stop that? this is a thread about the Al burj and not the Tower in Jeddah and also not about the Burj Dubai!

^^ Last year, Saudi Arabia attracted more foreign invetments than UAE..


Little info on the proposed tower,
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=485206

lol ... i wasn't trying to insult in anyway :D

but the amount of foreign investment in the UAE cannot be matched by our neighbours :) please don't get me wrong , but i am just stating facts here .

although the saudi market has alot of potential, its because the demand there is high and the supply is almost 0.

projects like King Abdullah city in jeddah is an example :) we saw the potential there my friend so we made sure we are the first on site :)

what a name :|

It really doesn't matter what the hell is going on in Saudi Arabia, we are talking about Dubai/Al Burj here! Potential is all fine but it's worth jack diddly squat when the supply is ZERO! People ain't gonna hang around for twenty years waiting to see some building that's supposedly "twice" the size of Burj Dubai... They're just going to invest their moolah (with good sense) in Dubai! :yes:

Personally, I really can't wait to see Al Burj rise from the sand on Dubai Waterfront! This building is a true skyscraper in every sense of the word... It's just awesome!

What's the latest news on this building? When are they going to start breaking ground on this? Or are they really going to wait (as I've been told) until Burj Dubai is near completion?

Will Al Burj be earthquake proof? Most buildings in Dubai (except Burj Dubai) are not and combine bad quality concrete (microcracks everywhere) with a major fault line at only 160 km distance I think this is a disaster waiting to happen.

I have my doubts because of the developer: http://tinyurl.com/yof8ga is an old story but more a rule than an exception here so would like to see some proof that this is adressed before plunking down my hard earned Dhs.

^^ 160 Km is really really far in terms of earthquakes. Most people think that earthquakes cover huge areas, but they are surprisingly localized. Remember that the intensity of an earthquake decreases roughly by the square of the distance. If they had a massive earthquake centered 160 Km away (think 8.0 magnitude) it would still shake really hard, but it would be well below the threshold for knocking down buildings.

and such a tall tower can resist such an earthquake much better than a lowrise building

lol ... i wasn't trying to insult in anyway :D

projects like King Abdullah city in jeddah is an example :) we saw the potential there my friend so we made sure we are the first on site :)

King Abdullah City cost is $26 billion, almost the same of Burj Dubai Area (just 1km2).

King Abdullah City cost is $26 billion, almost the same of Burj Dubai Area (just 1km2).

king Abdullah city was proposed by emaar and they will build it so we hold the credit :D

Some pinhead told me today that Al Burj won't be delivered until at least 2015... Surely not?:ohno:

I just can't wait that long! Arrghhh!!! :wallbash: :gaah: :gaah: :gaah:

^^ If hes a pinhead, why are you listening to what he says? :P

Anyway, 2015 is quite a realistic date for completion.

...Dubai Olympics 2016

^^ I'm not listening to him, I'm just saying what he told me. I'm just wondering if there is any truth to this? He's a pinhead only because he put a fucking dent on the side of my Porsche 911 Turbo two weeks ago! :mad2: Along with a few dents on my neighbour's car also. Unfortunately, he lives right down the street and can't drive for shit! :bash:

But you know, my gut instinct tells me that 2015 is probably right...

While I appreciate the fact that you can't just slap up a 200 floor skyscraper overnight...I still really want Al Burj to get underway once and for all!

He is a pinhead!!! :bash:

^^ Oh that's nothing, he took out his own front wall last year and literally drove straight into his own fucking living room! Unbelievable huh? :bash:

Cool Avatar mate! :cool: You do look like a guy who's going somewhere!? :lol: :)

^^ Is that a 993, 996 or 997?

^^ 997 :D

Let me tell you, just recently my twin daughters came to live with me and I haven't seen the thing for dust! Hah! :lol: Seriously! Of course, you know what 17-year-old teenage girls are like, right? :nuts: Apparently I've been ostracised to the Escalade thesedays! That's now good enough for me! Charming huh? :lol:

I know we're talking Al Burj here but it's so cool to see that Burj Dubai is very close to 500m right now. :D Should be only a matter of weeks then before it surpasses Taipei 101 and begins making real history! :soon:

This is one seriously big ass skyscraper! :yes: :D :nuts: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

I used this pic of the site to find the exact location of Al Burj.
http://i10.tinypic.com/4xln91g.jpg

That`s where it is +/- 50m :D
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01/July/2007

Dubai Waterfront ,

looking for the Al Burj , Tom Green's map:)

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With Tom_Green's analysis, the plot definitely looks like it is in the right location. It was hard to tell before without a straight overhead shot. Thanks a ton Tom_Green and Imre.

It says there that the hoarding is already erected.


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^^ I'll drink to that! :cheers:

Of all the wonderful supertall towers that are currently being developed in Dubai this is the one building I most want to "SEE" completed. :yes:

I don't want to sound presumptuous here but if the comparisons in the renders I've seen of this building are accurate then it will make all the other towers in Dubai look...well, rather small really.:omg:

It's a good thing Al Burj is nowhere near the Marina or Palm Jumeirah when you think about it... This would simply destroy any skyline!

Superstructures of Dubai


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From a small pearl-fishing village to an oil-rich city, Dubai has made rapid inroads to emerge as one of the well-known cosmopolitan cities and powerful economies in the world in a very short span of time. A free port, Dubai was popular for electronics, perfumes, gold and designer wear earlier; however now, the city is fast evolving into a realty hub. Stable currency, strong economy, high investment returns, virtually 0% crime rate, vast career opportunities and a clean society are some of the criteria for investing in Dubai real estate.


The real estate boom commenced in Dubai in May 2002, when HH Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, the then Crown Prince of Dubai and the UAE Defense Minister and the present Vice President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Shaikh of Dubai, announced 100% freehold ownership of properties at certain locales in Dubai for all nationalities. Since then, Dubai has experienced a heavy inrush of realty buyers that continues to gather momentum steadily. Dubai is now more synonymous with pioneering towers, modern world’s architectural wonders and skyscrapers.

Ever since man walked the earth, it has always been his endeavor to dominate his surroundings to display his assumed supremacy. This could be best done by constructing magnificently tall and prominent structures. The Pyramids, the Colosseum, the Castles and the Cathedrals were built to express and confirm the dominating position of those who built them. In fact, building the largest or the tallest structures in the world is strongly associated with the most dominant powers of the time.


At present, there are six skyscrapers under construction in Dubai. They are, namely, iconic Burj Dubai, slated to be tallest tower in the world; Burj Al Alam, billed as the tallest residential tower in the world with 108 floors; Marina 101, housing the highest hotel in the world with 101 floors; Princess Tower, one of the highest residential towers in Dubai with 107 floors and Pentominium, the world’s tallest penthouse tower with 120 floors. All of these high-rises are in different phases of planning and construction. The frontrunner among these is the Burj Dubai, which has one floor added to it per week, and is now the second tallest tower in the world at a height of 468.1 m (1,535.8 ft) and 130 storeys. The work on Al Burj has not yet commenced but it is expected to have somewhere between 180 to 200 storeys.


Dubai has one of the highest numbers of towers and skyscrapers under construction on both sides of Shaikh Zayed Road, the upcoming new Dubai. More than 1,850 are in pipeline to be constructed at the Dubai World Central Airport City in Jebel Ali. The work on these super-towers will be complete only by 2015. These skyscrapers are much talked about not merely for their majestic height but also for their designs, architecture and aesthetics.


Although construction of skyscrapers is very expensive, yet it provides large revenues. Conventionally, the tallest towers in the world have become the hub of economic development and usually attract the powerful diplomats, wealthy businessmen, tourists and artists from all over the world. Therefore, superstructures are not only built to express and establish power, but also to assert and accumulate it. With 6 super-towers on various stages of construction in Dubai, the position and importance of the city is sure to rise. When all the towers are complete by 2015 with more than 100 floors, Dubai will be the only city to have several towers with more than 100 floors.



Apart from these skyscrapers, Dubai is also famous its Burj Al Arab, the sail-shaped 7-star hotel; and the Emirates Towers, twin towers with offices and hotel. These structures are not only reputed for their impressive heights but also are the most photographed towers in Dubai due to their striking designs and aesthetic appeal.





Name of the Building
Developer
Height
No. of Floors
Purpose

Al Burj
Nakheel
1200 m (3,937 ft) (Proposed)
200 Floors
Mixed-use

Burj Dubai
Emaar Properties
818m (2,684 ft) (Estimated)
160 Floors
Mixed-use

Pentominium
Trident International Holding
516 m (1,692 ft)
120 Floors
Residential

Burj Al Alam
Fortune Group
455 m (1,492 ft)
108 Floors
Residential

Princess Tower

414 m (1,358 ft)
107 Floors
Residential

Marina 101
Rustar Real Estate& Sheffield Real Estate
412 m (1,351 ft)
101 Floors
Mixed-use

Burj Al Arab

321 m (1053 ft)
60 Floors
Hospitality

Jumeirah Emirates Tower Hotel

355 m (1,163 ft)
56 Floors
Hospitality



Emirates Tower One

309 m(1,014 ft)
54 Floors
54 floors

Source:Gowealthy.com

Today the Burj Mile tops out at1500m

^ What?

Yes, the top heigh of Al Burj is 1200, and with antenna 1500m.