#ON HOLD: NAKHEEL HARBOUR AND TOWER [Archive]

THE DUBAI GUYS

August 6th, 2004, 04:36 PM

If all this is true that the Pinnacle will be 750m tall then we have a very interesting contest on our hands for the world's tallest building, but also note that Emaar has said they will be leaving some margin to change the height during the course of contruction so since these rumours are out so early I think that the Burj Dubai will be between 777m and 800m+. I have known that the day would come when Dubai competes with it self. for eg the Mall of Arabia and Dubai Mall or the Burj Al Arab and the Forex Hotel.

As for the location I think it will be moved to a location on Sheikh Zayed Highway (maybe between Interchanges 2-6) because I dont think the Jumeriah Palm can take the weight. If you ask me they should move it to one of the empty spots on Sheikh Zayed Road (between the Trade Centre Roundabout and Interchange 1). But wont it be soooooooooo cool to have two buildings over 750m in Dubai. Thats like WOW!
R

ahmedr

August 6th, 2004, 06:20 PM

Ive always known about Emaar leaving a margin to build higher if any contenstant was to attempt to build higher but for some reason I never saw or realized that The Pinnacle could be the threat that will make Emaar build higher, until now.

Dubai-Lover

August 6th, 2004, 07:44 PM

maybe the "fight" between emaar's burj dubai and nakheel's the pinnacle intends to keep the final height of burj dubai secret. we know that it will at least be 705m. but you can see written everywhere that burj dubai definitely is the tallest. so either the pinnacle is just a huge fake or it is to confuse people about the final height of burj dubai!

and pinnacle is just a proposal and not yet approved. but as the pinnacle is on every new rendering of palm jumeirah it seems to be reality.

so finally, 2 options:
burj dubai definitely 705m and pinnacle just a fake or
creating some confusion to keep burj dubai's height a secret till end of construction!

what do you think!?!?

THE DUBAI GUYS

August 7th, 2004, 07:41 AM

I think the Pinnacle will be built but where and how tall still remains a mystery. I once got a poster from the nakheel office showing the pinnacle. So if their poster was to scale I had calculated the height of the Pinnacle to be between 437m and 468m. But I maybe wrong since these new rumours have surfaced. Only time will tell.
R

Dubai-Lover

August 7th, 2004, 09:45 AM

yes a mystery! i also wondered about the height of the pinnacle in nakheels sales center. the scale of this building in comparison to the yellow houses around it, is strange. the pinnacle seems to be max. 400m tall!!!!!

Trances

August 7th, 2004, 10:37 AM

Well I belive its real concept and it may happen
lets hope for some thing like: " Chrysler vs. Bank of Manhattan Co. "
With the Burj Dubai coming in first !
THe 705 meter hight was from a media realase in April 2004

dcb11

August 17th, 2004, 06:24 AM

I just noticed on skyscrapers.com that it should be done by 2009. Height 750 meters. What's going on with this project?

Trances

August 17th, 2004, 08:09 AM

and there is a project thread for it too
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120490&highlight=Pinnacle

Dubai-Lover

August 17th, 2004, 11:30 AM

trances, can you merge this with pinnacle thread??

Toronto75

September 10th, 2004, 11:25 PM

I know that there is links, and articles... but is this thing a go 100%? Or just talk...

Dubai-Lover

September 10th, 2004, 11:47 PM

proposed, ckeck http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=120490

CrispyDragon

September 14th, 2004, 05:40 PM

Anything new on this? (The linked thread doesn't have any posts since Aug 17).

CD

juiced

September 14th, 2004, 06:45 PM

Personally I don't think it'll go through, it will probs be moved inland. Think how much weight such a building will put on the Palm island? Wouldn't be too nice to have that place sinking!

Dubai-Lover

September 14th, 2004, 06:52 PM

merged this with official pinnacle thread!

Trances

September 15th, 2004, 12:01 AM

am a not buying thsi weight issues so the tower will be embed in the gulf floor as tower this hight would need massive base and would not be even built on the reclaimed land but on teh sea bed beneath that
Despite this i dont think it will happenon this site

Krazy

September 15th, 2004, 03:22 AM

I still havent figured out whats the official source of the 750m height on this one. Yes it says so on emporis but thats not an ''official'' source for the Pinnacle. I want to know whether this tower really is gonna beat BD or is all this just hot air that everyone is believing because of what emporis says. In short, has Nakheel or any related companies given an official word on this one?

SA BOY

September 15th, 2004, 07:47 AM

no one has mentioned this officailly from Nakheel . This tower was added by myself to emporis based on the model at the Nakheel show office and Trances got hold of the proposed height from Ventures which publishes all data for buildings in Dubai. This project is listed as proposed just like the hundreds of massive buildings all over the world that are spoken about, weather it gets built or not only time will tell.

Trances

September 15th, 2004, 08:31 AM

yep need to get the new ventures will do that in next few days see if any up dates

ulb

October 2nd, 2004, 12:48 PM

Today in an interview with alkhaleej news paper the chairman oof nakeel sais the pinnacle will be constructed and be 700-750 metre, he olso said that on the palm jabal ali a longer tower will constructed

Dubai-Lover

October 2nd, 2004, 12:51 PM

HEEEELLLL NAAAAWWWWWW!!!!!

jesus christ!!! holy allah or whatever! this is great! :cry:

can you copy and paste the article in here please!!!!!

Trances

October 2nd, 2004, 01:01 PM

oh wow have to see that

SA BOY

October 2nd, 2004, 01:23 PM

I havent seen the article and will go look now

Dubai-Lover

October 2nd, 2004, 01:29 PM

:lol:
al khaleej is arabic newspaper. do you speak arabic?

dazz

October 2nd, 2004, 02:04 PM

great news indeed! :)

ahmedr

October 2nd, 2004, 02:18 PM

Here's a link to the article : http://www.alkhaleej.co.ae/eco/show_article.cfm?val=111275 but it's in Arabic. Anyway, like ulb said, the guy said the tower on Palm Jumeirah will be 700-750 meters and there will be a taller one on Palm Jebel Ali. The tower on Palm Jumeirah should start construction before the end of this year and completed by 2007 (before Burj Dubai)!! He was asked about the cost of building the tower and he said that they're still in the tendering stage and dont know how much it's going to cost. There was no information at all about the tower in Palm Jebel Ali except that it will be taller than "The Pinnacle" or whatever its called.

Whats interesting is that the interviewer asked about the tower as if it was common knowledge that it is going to be built. She was like "and what about the tower?" in the midst of their talking about when property will be handed over to buyers.

Very soon Dubai will have not one, not two, but the three tallest buildings in the world, why is it starting to sound very normal and unexciting?

Trances

October 2nd, 2004, 02:22 PM

So this one will be on the Palm Jumeirah
Great it going to happen
i know this location is questionable but it happens

dazz

October 2nd, 2004, 02:49 PM

here was no information at all about the tower in Palm Jebel Ali except that it will be taller than "The Pinnacle" or whatever its called.

hahahahahahahahaa!!!
this is insane! :cheers: :cheers:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:applause:

Trances

October 2nd, 2004, 02:56 PM

well if this comes of will make a lot of people happy

Dubai-Lover

October 2nd, 2004, 02:59 PM

will this one on jebel ali be a competitor for burj dubai? when taller than pinnacle it should be min 800

juiced

October 2nd, 2004, 03:14 PM

Next we'll be hearing that the Burj Dubai is going to be a kilometre long! A km-long tower in the "most prestigious square kilometre on the planet" as their advert goes...

Dubai-Lover

October 2nd, 2004, 03:17 PM

that would make sense. you could also associate it with "a world of 1001 nights!!"
hope the bd is a symbol for these :D
or just to break the mark :dunno:

Trances

October 2nd, 2004, 03:18 PM

maybe this is more of the same mind games these two play
like when the Burj Dubai was 705 meters the Pinnacle was 750
and now again a week after the last announcement, here we go again

THE DUBAI GUYS

October 3rd, 2004, 05:06 PM

It nice to hear that we will have the top 3 worlds tallest skyscrapers one day:eek2: :righton::nocrook: . in fact I cant wait. but the onli thing is that i dunno if a re-claimed island can take the weight of a building that is ohh lets say 750m +????? Its is just a tad bit worring!:ohno:
I mean why cant they put on shore some where like on SZR and as for the "tower that will be taller that the pinnacle on palm jebel ali" they could have it on the shore it doesnt necessarily have to be on the island it self it could be on the approach to palm jebel ali.
R :dance:

Toronto75

October 3rd, 2004, 10:13 PM

This is incredible news, if this does occur, Dubai will easily be the SKYSCRAPER KING OF THE WORLD. Way to go Dubai.

Trances

October 4th, 2004, 05:17 AM

people keep asking this question about the re-claimed island.
As I woudl expect these islands are built on the gulf floor. Foundations for structure this big would have to run many many meters deep. So they would expend way beyond the 6-8 of reclaimed land and deep in the sea bed. So the Palm island is not going carrrrying the weight at all really. Ok Just to clearn it up.

Face81

October 4th, 2004, 11:48 AM

Next we'll be hearing that the Burj Dubai is going to be a kilometre long! A km-long tower in the "most prestigious square kilometre on the planet" as their advert goes...

I think they will probably go for that 1001 mark as it seems more impressive than 1000m. What is 1m anyway when u have gone upto 1000m? lol.........

Tower madness! :nuts:

-Face81
:jippo:

Michiel

November 25th, 2004, 12:44 AM

Found the tower on the site of Pei Partnership (http://www.ppa-ny.com) :)

http://img100.exs.cx/img100/7271/palmtowerdubai1.jpg

Palm Tower

The Nakheel Corporation has retained Pei Partnership Architects to design a luxury apartment tower in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. It is to be the focal point of one of the world's largest man-made islands, The Jumeirah Palm, located offshore from Jumeirah Beach. The Palm Tower rises out of a lagoon in the central canal of Palm Island. The building is a cluster of three towers around a hollow circular interior. The towers are joined at six sky-bridges that function as express elevator sky-lobbies. Above each sky-bridge garden is a tall atrium open to the breeze and sun on three sides. One of the three towers is shorter, allowing for a large swimming pool on the roof terrace, overlooked by a circular glass penthouse.

Information

-6,800,000 sq. ft. apartment house
-724 luxury apartments, ranging from 3,000 sq ft. simplexes to over 6,000 sq; ft triplexes with indoor swimming pools
-Includes a fine restaurant for residents providing full room service and catering
-Includes a large health club and spa with outdoor pool, social clubs and a public observation deck

Architect

Pei Partnership Architects
C.C. Pei, Partner-in-Charge
John Powell, Project Manager

Dubai-Lover

November 25th, 2004, 01:08 AM

allowing for a large swimming pool on the roof terrace, overlooked by a circular glass penthouse

will this be the highest pool then? :lol:

i tell you this project is serious!

Dubai_Boy

November 25th, 2004, 01:36 AM

GEEEEE-WEEEEEEZ , i think a certain some one here is gonna have an orgasim if these projects and up-dates dont stop coming tonigh ,HaHaHa

This is great , the building , what am i saying , the TOWER loooks a lot better than i had imagined

Dubai_Boy

November 25th, 2004, 01:37 AM

Michiel , how did you find this website ?

CULWULLA

November 25th, 2004, 02:04 AM

so is this an ALL RESIDENTIAL BUILDING? if so it craps on Al amira ect...
should be tallest resi of all time if it gets built. but you mention hotel and commercial?

Dubai-Lover

November 25th, 2004, 08:15 AM

it was proposed by nakheel as a mixed use tower
the tower comprises three towers linked to one by skybridges

one tower was planned fo commercial, one for residential and one for hotel use

this is the first time i read all residential

if it goes through like this it will own the title for a very long time

SA BOY

November 25th, 2004, 09:13 AM

Can someone mail them for a height? Culwulla thinking of you for the model room?

Dubai-Lover

November 25th, 2004, 10:51 AM

i can contact them
this afternoon

Michiel

November 25th, 2004, 09:26 PM

@Dubai Boy
Several news sites mentioned a "Palm Tower". This was one of the first hits on Google.

Jue

November 25th, 2004, 11:41 PM

Will this be counted as three 700m+ towers or just one? I remember this rule-of-thumb where if less than 1/3 of total height is mutual, connected towers are counted separately.

SA BOY

November 26th, 2004, 07:46 AM

na the model shows all 3 towers rising at least 80% of the total height, Then the pool on the shorter one and the 2 at the back rising to support some massive spires

BulldozerGirl

November 26th, 2004, 10:49 AM

Why don't they move the Pinnacle to Dubai Marina?

And BTW, what is it called in Arabic? Al Binnacle?

Just to mention something irrelevant; people lived in the area of the Palm and beyond on the base of the Arabian Gulf ages ago, when it was empty during the Ice Age. After the end, it suddenly flooded and the people drowned. Geologic remains along the coast of the UAE confirms this.

It is highly likely that the stories of a flood in the Vedas, Avesta, Babylonian scriptures, Torah, and Quran, relate to this event.

Now people are living there again :)

AltinD

November 26th, 2004, 11:51 AM

Why don't they move the Pinnacle to Dubai Marina?

Becouse Dubai Marina is a EMAAR project.

BulldozerGirl

November 26th, 2004, 12:13 PM

Becouse Dubai Marina is a EMAAR project.

Jumeira Lake then.

Jue

November 26th, 2004, 10:29 PM

na the model shows all 3 towers rising at least 80% of the total height, Then the pool on the shorter one and the 2 at the back rising to support some massive spires
It would be awesome to count them separately:

1. 800-950m Burj Dubai
2. 850m Palm Jebel Ali (estimate)
3. 750m The Pinnacle #1
4. 750m The Pinnacle #2
5. 700m The Pinnacle #3

Can you just imagine that? And in Shanghai here people squabble over the construction of a 492m tower. :sleepy: Oh, and just for kicks, remember the ESB is just under 400m, and that all the new WTBs before these did not improve much upon the old records. Dubai is decades ahead in the WTB race.

Dubai-Lover

November 26th, 2004, 10:43 PM

yes that would be impressive
i do believe nakheel wild build both the pinnacle and palm jebel ali tower over 700m
burj dubai gets built anyway, let's leave it at 800 for now
but i don't believe they will list the pinnacle as 3 towers
for my taste the segments are too close to each other and have more than 1 skybridge

Jue

November 26th, 2004, 10:46 PM

I guess that will be for the recordkeepers to decide; much like the spire debate. If it is counted as one tower, then it will be an aesthetic judgment; I do not remember a minimum distance requirement for spacing between towers, only the total percentage of shared height.

kshatriya

November 27th, 2004, 07:34 AM

It would be awesome to count them separately:

1. 800-950m Burj Dubai
2. 850m Palm Jebel Ali (estimate)
3. 750m The Pinnacle #1
4. 750m The Pinnacle #2
5. 700m The Pinnacle #3

Can you just imagine that? And in Shanghai here people squabble over the construction of a 492m tower. :sleepy: Oh, and just for kicks, remember the ESB is just under 400m, and that all the new WTBs before these did not improve much upon the old records. Dubai is decades ahead in the WTB race.
Holy....that's so insane! 5 towers over 700 m!!! :eek2: But actually like Dubai Lover says, the Pinnacle could be counted as one :), but still, totally insane development.

Dubai_Boy

November 28th, 2004, 10:35 AM

http://www.albayan.ae/servlet/Satellite?blobcol=urllowres&blobheader=image%2Fjpg&blobkey=id&blobtable=CImage&blobwhere=1099998437901&cachecontrol=3%3A00%3A00+*%2F*%2F*&ssbinary=true

who thinks she is pointing at the pinnacle :P

Trances

November 30th, 2004, 12:08 PM

Stil all res seems almost impossible !

Dubai-Lover

November 30th, 2004, 02:46 PM

impossible, yes
again, it was proposed as a hotel, residential and commercial building

Nightsky

December 1st, 2004, 04:33 PM

The Palm Tower and The Pinnacle have almost the same design.

Palm Tower
http://img100.exs.cx/img100/7271/palmtowerdubai1.jpg

The Pinnacle:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid130/pf029f9525bea7606b9d8c22a35f0de35/f7b9debb.jpg

So I guess it is the same project, but Palm Tower is a version of it if it won't be situated on the artificial island.

3 700m+ towers sound too unreal even for Dubai!

Dubai-Lover

December 1st, 2004, 04:35 PM

it is the same project, some call it the pinnacle, some the palm tower

the building comprises 3 towers combined by skybridges, this is why somebody brought this 3-tower discussion up
as i've already said, i'm sure this one will be counted as one only

and it will be located on palm jumeirah! definitely

Nightsky

December 1st, 2004, 04:38 PM

But Palm Jebel Ali is a different project? Cause I thought it was the same as Palm Tower and Palm Jebel Ali was listed separately here:

1. 800-950m Burj Dubai
2. 850m Palm Jebel Ali (estimate)
3. 750m The Pinnacle #1
4. 750m The Pinnacle #2
5. 700m The Pinnacle #3

Dubai-Lover

December 1st, 2004, 04:42 PM

ah, you include the palm jebel ali tower
yes, then together with palm jebel ali tower, the pinnacle and burj dubai it'd be 3 towers above 700m

it really sounds unlikely, but remember when they first talked about burj dubai. we all thought: :lol: these are just some insane guys talking crap. and now they do it the same way with the 2 palm towers. everything's kept secret, no press releases, nothing.

the pinnacle is on the renders for about 3 months now, when the new masterplan has been released. it even still is on the very new ones!

Michiel

December 23rd, 2004, 09:42 PM

Some pictures from the site of the Axis Design Group (http://www.axisd.com)
http://img55.exs.cx/img55/165/palmtower15yn.jpg
Too bad this one doesn't show the top:
http://img55.exs.cx/img55/6913/palmtower22sb.jpg

Dubai_Boy

December 23rd, 2004, 09:48 PM

OH MY , i`m beggining to like this building :)

Vespa

December 23rd, 2004, 10:23 PM

Me too, but i hope they will include some more traditionel elements in the design. It still looks to normal for a world tallest.

Jue

December 23rd, 2004, 11:39 PM

Judging by the base shape, the three towers would not be able to stand independently. I withdraw the three-tower idea. :)

Dubai_Boy

December 24th, 2004, 12:34 AM

I think Aussies better be worried about this Monster and not the al amira one at 340 meters :) this is The ultimate tallest residental in the world

Trances

December 24th, 2004, 12:47 AM

yep new world tallest
will be hard to ever beat as all res
but i though this mixed use

Krazy

December 24th, 2004, 12:49 AM

al amira will do it trances :)

Dubai_Boy

December 24th, 2004, 12:51 AM

http://www.axisd.com/projects_topstrip_palm_tower.htm

it mentions its residental in this article

DUBAI

December 24th, 2004, 02:45 AM

does this have to be on the palm jumeriah? its the one palm i really like, put it on the deia palm, they are ugly enough to go together, and surly a building this size would be better in the old downtown. ahh but the planes! maybe tha palm jebal ali, there would be parking, but who would drive that far to work init? guess were stuck with destroying the only good looking palm island... shame! :(

Trances

December 24th, 2004, 03:23 AM

Yes i do agree that is a little over powering, in the wrong postion for resdients and access. Will over shadow and over power the bueaty of the plam island etc
But i dont care it want my super tall

ahmedr

December 24th, 2004, 10:41 AM

Yeah, Palm Jumeirah is my favourite, just the same way I like The Matrix much more than its sequels (Reloaded and Revolutions), for not being so out-of-this-world yet conveying the point perfectly. Not to mention, the Palm Jumeirah's design is the best, it actually looks like a typical beautiful palm.

AltinD

December 24th, 2004, 10:51 AM

Weren't Reloaded and Revolution banned in Egypt cinemas?

ahmedr

December 24th, 2004, 11:13 AM

They were at first but then they were released after many people complained that the ban was unreasonable. And even if it were banned in the cinemas, there's always the internet and friends visiting from abroad.

Jue

December 24th, 2004, 07:00 PM

The Matrix Reloaded ban was odd, considering Passion of the Christ, a far more controversial film in Western circles, was played.

I don't think The Pinnacle spoils Palm Jumeirah's image from afar; it is certainly imposing up close, but should be a beautiful component of the island.

BulldozerGirl

December 24th, 2004, 07:06 PM

Dubai_Boy described the Pinnacle on Palm Jumeirah beautifully when it first appeared on the renders, and I continue to see it that way.

It looks as if the Palm Jumeirah has been stabbed.

And that tower is so Bauhaus or whatever you call it. So Tel Aviv.

ahmedr

December 25th, 2004, 01:28 AM

I actually see a lot of Islamic architecture in it especially the arches under those skybridges.

Dubai-Lover

January 6th, 2005, 02:09 PM

pics by alttab

this is where the pinnacle will rise

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid153/p2dc65b7c240cb21cdba36ca93d039114/f597086a.jpg

Trances

January 6th, 2005, 02:27 PM

well there is space but would there not have had to been heaps of work before this to set the tower base to the sea floor ?

DUBAI

January 6th, 2005, 03:00 PM

yeah, i doubt they would even start constructing it untill the palm is open for business and the burj dubai too. i expect that they will also wait for the dubai property market has stabalise.

dazz

January 6th, 2005, 03:53 PM

I think that those pics are quite old, maybe over 3months

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid153/p6265a1b8e8938ed25a87c8e6df8a1c49/f597084b.jpg
look this, how many cranes you can see? not many...

then look this photo taken by Altind_Carnut in october31
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid145/pa86fea624d6dc75c3d794d444a91b9ab/f660e4f0.jpg
I think that this has much more cranes

fahed

January 6th, 2005, 07:12 PM

I think that those pics are quite old, maybe over 3months

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid153/p6265a1b8e8938ed25a87c8e6df8a1c49/f597084b.jpg
look this, how many cranes you can see? not many...

I don't see any !

Maybe they don't appear in the pic due to the distance

BinDubai

January 9th, 2005, 05:14 AM

8 Jan 2005
تخطط لبرج أعلى في نخلة جبل علي
«نخيل» تقيم «بيناكل» بارتفاع 750 متراً

اعلنت شركة «نخيل» انها تعتزم انشاء برج في جزيرة النخلة جبل علي يتجاوز ارتفاعه برج «بيناكل» الذي يصل ارتفاعه المبدئي إلى 750 مترا ويقام في جزيرة النخلة - جميرا، وقالت مجلة (ميد) الاسبوعية في عددها الاخير ان فريقا من المصممين قارب على الانتهاء من وضع تصاميم برج «بيناكل» الذي سيتم انشاؤه وسط بحيرة ضمن القناة الرئيسية لجزيرة النخلة - جميرا.والفريق يضم مصممين من شركة «بي بارتنرشب اركتيكتس» ومجموعة اكسيس ديزاين، والمشروع يغطي مساحة مبنية تصل إلى نحو 7 ملايين قدم مربع، وسيتضمن 724 شقة سكنية إلى جانب مرافق ترفيهية، وسيتألف المشروع من ثلاثة ابراج تربط بينها ستة جسور معلقة.

وبمجرد الانتهاء من التصاميم يتوقع ان ينفذ المشروع بوتيرة سريعة لضمان الانتهاء من كل الاعمال في جزيرة النخلة - جميرا في 2007.وتتولى شركة كيلوج براون اند روت الاميركية تقديم خدمات ادارة المشروع، بينما تدير اعمال البنية التحتية شركة بارسونز برنكوهوف الاميركية، وعلى الرغم من انه لم يتم الكشف رسميا عن برج «بيناكل» إلا انه سينافس برج دبي الذي تقيمه اعمار على لقب اعلى مبنى في العالم.

pinnacle hight confirmed at 750m and there will be 3 towers linked by 6 air bidges as mentioned formarly. There will be a higher tower in the palm jabal ali

Taufiq

January 9th, 2005, 08:03 AM

8 Jan 2005
confirmed at 750m and there will be 3 towers linked by 6 air bidges as mentioned formarly. There will be a higher tower in the palm jabal ali

:omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg:

ISN'T THIS HUGE NEWS!!!11!!11!!

Trances

January 9th, 2005, 09:04 AM

more and more news
so cant deny thats its going to happen
can wait for when it becomes more offical

DUBAI

January 9th, 2005, 09:29 AM

does it say when it going to be built? now, or in 10 years?
also. doesnt it sound like they gave up in competing with emmar for wtb?

Dubai-Lover

January 9th, 2005, 09:33 AM

what shall i say?

YEAH!

this is crazy like hell

what surprises me though is: wasn't the 750m estimated by giles? funny how it's the exact height!

as this is on every single masterplan and map it has to go through!

Krazy

January 9th, 2005, 09:43 AM

maybe someone should visit nakheel's sales office right now and act like a very interested customer, find out if its approved or not !

Dubai-Lover

January 9th, 2005, 09:47 AM

but you can't expect models
nothing has been done till august

but it's in fact a good idea to play the interested guy :D

ahmedr

January 9th, 2005, 12:14 PM

The article says that although the tower has not been laucnched officially, yet, it is poised to compete with Burj Dubai over the WTB title. The completion date is 2007 as you can see from the article (numbers in english).

Dubai_Boy

January 9th, 2005, 05:22 PM

And it also says that 750 is the initial height of the pinnacle :) where did u find this article ??

«نخيل» تقيم «بيناكل» بارتفاع 750 متراًعلى الانتهاء من وضع تصاميم برج «بيناكل» الذي سيتم انشاؤه وسط بحيرة ضمن القناة الرئيسية لجزيرة النخلة - جميرا.والفريق يضم مصممين من شركة «بي بارتنرشب اركتيكتس» ومجموعة اكسيس ديزاين، والمشروع يغطي مساحة مبنية تصل إلى نحو 7 ملايين قدم مربع، وسيتضمن 724 شقة سكنية إلى جانب مرافق ترفيهية، وسيتألف المشروع من ثلاثة ابراج تربط بينها ستة جسور معلقة.

شركة كيلوج براون اند روت الاميركية تقديم خدمات ادارة المشروع، بينما تدير اعمال البنية التحتية شركة بارسونز برنكوهوف الاميركية،

Teams from these two companies are designing the pinnacle :-

1- B Partnership Arcu
2- Access Design Group

Company incharge of , and will provide services to this project is :

3- Kelog Brown and Route ?? dont know if the spelling is coorect , its an american company

The company involved in foundation work is the american company :-

4-Barsons bernkohof again selling is wrong

DUBAI

January 9th, 2005, 05:51 PM

what does the number 724 refer to, and surly by revealing their height this early they are compromising themselves in a battle to be wtb with emmar?

Dubai_Boy

January 9th, 2005, 05:52 PM

724 is the number of apartments !!

Trances

January 10th, 2005, 09:02 AM

724 thats a bit when you consider its 3 towers in one

Grollo

January 11th, 2005, 12:37 AM

I think think the name of this thread should be changed to Palm Tower as most sites as this is what Nakheel are now calling the tower.

http://www.thepalmgoldenmile.com/palm.html

Trances

January 11th, 2005, 01:28 AM

Not as intresting name
but makes more sense if there is to be a tower on each palm

Dubai-Lover

January 11th, 2005, 02:28 PM

724 apartment is ok
remember it is very slender and it is very likely the apartments will be very big!

finite

January 13th, 2005, 03:01 PM

Hmmm, I was at the sales office, and it is gone. Literally, they have the rest of the trunk model, but in the place where the pinnacle should be, there was nothing but a triangular shaped hole...

Trances

January 13th, 2005, 03:56 PM

GONE !
Maybe a redesgin is underway
but gone sounds scary

ahmedr

January 13th, 2005, 05:06 PM

I have no doubt that Nakheel will go ahead and build The Pinnacle, they're prolly just redesigning like you said.... to make it even taller than BD !

Dubai-Lover

January 13th, 2005, 10:31 PM

don't know what to think of now :dunno:

they are doing an excellent job with confusing us

Nizey

January 13th, 2005, 10:52 PM

I hope they redisign it and make it look more of a classy landmark as opposed to a giant concrete tube!

fahed

January 14th, 2005, 01:22 AM

Don't forget that 724 apartments are residential. There would be triple that number considering number of rooms in total.

Regarding that the desing is gone, I think that they wanna compete with Burj Dubai as Duboy said.

ahmedr

January 14th, 2005, 01:45 AM

I hope they redisign it and make it look more of a classy landmark as opposed to a giant concrete tube!
I really hope so too. If they need to compete with Burj Dubai, they will not only need to be higher, they also have to have a great design comparable to that of Burj Dubai.

THE DUBAI GUYS

January 15th, 2005, 06:10 PM

My dad just got construction weekly home and it said that the design stage is close to completion. Pei Partnership Architects and the Axis Design Group are the designers. it says the usual 750m, 3 towers, 6 sky bridges, 724 apartments, but it says it wil rise from a lagoon and once this stage is over the project and I quote "is expected to be fast tracked so that all work on the palm jumairah will be finished by 2007. :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: The client Nakheel has also indicated that it is planning to build an even taller tower on the Palm Jebel Ali. Although yet to be unveiled, the Pinnacle looks set to compete with the Burj Dubai as the worlds tallest building."
R

Dubai-Lover

January 16th, 2005, 01:20 AM

Taufiq

January 16th, 2005, 01:24 AM

so many great news lately
have been to nakheel sales center two days ago and yes the pinancle model has been removed!!! have a pic will post it later. can't re-install my ws ftp evaluation software :rant:

WHAT??!?!! I want to see the model!! Guess I will be staying here and pressing F5 repeatedly.. :lol:

FWIW

January 16th, 2005, 01:53 AM

so many great news lately
have been to nakheel sales center two days ago and yes the pinancle model has been removed!!! have a pic will post it later. can't re-install my ws ftp evaluation software :rant:

Hey Dubai-Lover - Have you tried FTP Commander - totally free and excellent program. Download it from here http://www.internet-soft.com/DEMO/ftpcommander.exe

SunnyS :)

Dubai-Lover

January 16th, 2005, 02:09 AM

will keep it thanks sunny!
fortunately i could download ws ftp from another server, so it works for another month

Dubai-Lover

January 16th, 2005, 02:11 AM

here we go
this is how it looks now :D

wanted to see it for myself

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid154/p3274d9582814f293b82cff424816028d/f575ce1d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid154/p207e5100fbec1b04694e06dcf2561e74/f575ce1b.jpg

Nizey

January 16th, 2005, 05:33 AM

Wow, it looks so much better now!

Dubai_Boy

January 16th, 2005, 11:47 AM

Did they tell you the tower was cancelled , did you ask DL ?

SA BOY

January 16th, 2005, 12:22 PM

if they have Pei onboard I doubt it will be cancelled, probably just getting a bit "Emaar "about things and trying to keep the design and height etc a secret.

Dubai_Boy

January 16th, 2005, 12:45 PM

SA BOY , did u see the marina pinnacle add today , at 260 meters ?

DUBAI

January 16th, 2005, 01:00 PM

im guessing ghtey are doing a bit of a redesign on its ugly ass, it will probably be similar, but maybe a little more elegant and less blocky.

or someone could have broken it of course!

or maybe an emmar secret agent broke in and stole it!

Michiel

January 16th, 2005, 02:18 PM

@SA Boy
The building is/was designed by Pei Partnership, the company of the sons of I.M. Pei. As far as I know the great I.M. Pei is retired.

Trances

January 17th, 2005, 08:28 AM

hmm not looking good at all with out that
I kinda liked the syle of that model

SA BOY

January 25th, 2005, 10:20 AM

Building cancelled-read construction week issue 56 , front page story. Pity cos its a great tower

ahmedr

January 25th, 2005, 11:54 AM

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOO! It cant be.

dazz

January 25th, 2005, 12:02 PM

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

why it was cancelled?

Dubai-Lover

January 25th, 2005, 03:01 PM

maybe it's just to be replaced

but they will definitely build a huge tower there
a 300m tower also be enough

THE DUBAI GUYS

January 25th, 2005, 04:43 PM

maybe just maybe they moved it off the island to an onshore location and thats y it isnt on the palm j model. and who knows mayb its gone for a re design
R

Krazy

January 25th, 2005, 06:07 PM

Maybe they'll put the mosque back on the Palm

Dubai-Lover

January 25th, 2005, 06:17 PM

i don't think they will replace it by a mosque
there will be mosques somewhere else on the palm

correct, it's possible they now move the tower to another nakheel project, but which one????

does this mean the longer tower which was proposed for palm jebel ali will also be cancelled? i suppose yes!!!

Krazy

January 25th, 2005, 08:48 PM

From sell2arabia.com, could this be the pinnacle? Or maybe the new business bay tall everyone's been talking about?

Name : High-Rise Tower Construction Project
Description : Construction of a 750-metre-high tower comprising (724) apartments and associated leisure and entertainment facilities.
Territory : Dubai
Status : New Tender
Category : Prestige Buildings, Leisure
Date : 1/24/2005

Dubai-Lover

January 25th, 2005, 09:01 PM

don't know what to think of anymore

this is the pinnacle or it would be an amazing co-incidence two supertalls have 724 apartments

hmmm,.. new tender on jan 24! hehe

ahmedr

January 25th, 2005, 09:53 PM

Yeah really wierd indeed, one day we here the Pinnacle is cancelled and the day before there was a new tender for a tower with exactly the same height and apartment units, lol.

Krazy

January 26th, 2005, 12:56 AM

SA Boy, have any idea about this tender?

Aloosh

January 26th, 2005, 03:32 AM

What if its moved to the deira palm>?it IS larger...and ppl might think that theyre repeating the same concepts over and over again so why not add a high rise on deira palm so ppl would be interested in a third palm

Prince_Ahmed

January 26th, 2005, 07:41 AM

aloosh, im not too sure, but i think that the palm diera is under an air traffic route, so high rises on palm deira would be unlikely.

DUBAI

January 26th, 2005, 05:54 PM

i wouldnt think nakheel would accept defeat, it will be re designed and maybe moved.
i wouldnt be surprised if they launced a big downtown project to compete with burd dubai and business bay. possibly in jadaf?

SA BOY

January 27th, 2005, 09:04 AM

Jadaff is deffinatly going ahead. The new 12 lane crossing will come through it and the shiop yards are due to move to Maritime city so thats a lot of prime land there, possibly the best bit of real estate in Dubai

ahmedr

January 27th, 2005, 10:44 AM

If Jadaf is a Nakheel project then Im guessing they just cant miss the chance of building something that would compete with Emaar's New Downtown and Dubai Property's Business Bay and probably a third supertall. I think it wont make sense if Nakheel built a half-ass project down there.

AltinD

January 27th, 2005, 11:09 AM

Where is Jadaff exactly?

After 5 years I still have difficulties with the aerea naming.

ahmedr

January 27th, 2005, 11:18 AM

its on the opposite side of the creek from Dubai Festival City OR if its easier, its between the New Downtown and the creek.

Dubai-Lover

January 29th, 2005, 12:25 PM

the video on www.dubaiwaterfront.ae shows the pinnacle and it looks tall!!!!

here's an image of al burj from the website
it shall become one of the world's most luxurious towers!!!

http://www.dubaiwaterfront.ae/gfx/al_burj.jpg

SA BOY

January 29th, 2005, 12:32 PM

maybe changing the name of the thread to pinnacle/al burj choose a palm to be located

ahmedr

January 29th, 2005, 12:36 PM

Btw, this could very well be 1000m now, Ive noticed it used to be divide into only 5 sections before, now its 7!

ahmedr

January 29th, 2005, 12:40 PM

Dubai-Lover, where did you get that picture anyway, cant find it on the website?

SA BOY

January 29th, 2005, 02:07 PM

its fcuking tall no matter how high it is

Face81

January 29th, 2005, 02:13 PM

its fcuking tall no matter how high it is

its HUGE, isnt it? fantastic!

Wonder wot will take its place on Palm Jumeirah????

dazz

January 29th, 2005, 02:36 PM

yes, there are two more center sections! and one section was maybe 100m high, that means 200m more height, from 750m to 950m, but the antennas and the top part seem to be a taller also, so it could be over 1kilometer tall! :runaway:

Dubai-Lover

January 29th, 2005, 02:45 PM

check these 3 pics

at nakheel sales center it was presented as a short version with 5 blocks
http://www.ayuplanet.com/dxblover/Palm Jumeirah/Palm Jumeirah Pinnacle3.jpg

on the palm jumeirah master plan it had 7 blocks as well
http://www.ayuplanet.com/dxblover/Palm Jumeirah/Palm Jumeirah Pinnacle5.jpg

on the new render it's the same tower as on the master plan, so there have been no design changes at all!
http://www.ayuplanet.com/dxblover/New Towers/Al Burj.jpg

DUBAI

January 29th, 2005, 03:28 PM

So when does work begin!

ahmedr

January 29th, 2005, 03:28 PM

ooh, didnt notice it was seven sections in the palm rendering, they probably never finalized the height, then, its funny how no one noticed it until now.

SA BOY

January 29th, 2005, 04:46 PM

well I count 8 including the top section that is only on the far side, I also count 25 floors per section which means it 200 floors plus spires so its huge

Dubai-Lover

January 29th, 2005, 10:18 PM

at night

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Hippihop6/alburj.jpg

dubaiflo

January 30th, 2005, 12:47 AM

well...I showed it to my parents, even the new waterfront, and they said dubai overdoes it, and exxagerates .. but for me ...i love it...dubai is the best city and will be the very best in 10 years...sooo cool...
Well it could be overdone...but i don't think so...!
I think they do it right...! :)

Trances

January 30th, 2005, 01:25 AM

wow
a big change in last fews days

Dubai-Lover

February 4th, 2005, 08:11 AM

look what draws the attention :D

http://www.dubaiwaterfront.ae/gfx/launch_slides/DSC_8047.jpg

http://www.dubaiwaterfront.ae/gfx/launch_slides/DSC_8071.jpg

Krazy

February 4th, 2005, 08:19 AM

http://www.dubaiwaterfront.ae/gfx/launch_slides/DSC_8071.jpg

Shkh Mohammad: "It will be this small compared to my Burj Dubai you fools" :hahaha: :lol: :hilarious

Dubai_Boy

February 4th, 2005, 12:01 PM

hahahaha :)

SA BOY

February 4th, 2005, 01:27 PM

have nakheel added this tower or the waterfront to their sales office next to the palm?

SkylineTurbo

February 4th, 2005, 01:44 PM

http://www.dubaiwaterfront.ae/gfx/launch_slides/DSC_8071.jpg

Shkh Mohammad: "It will be this small compared to my Burj Dubai you fools" :hahaha: :lol: :hilarious
:rofl:

Dubai-Lover

February 4th, 2005, 01:45 PM

someone should check the nakheel sales center again for new models

DUBAI

February 4th, 2005, 06:41 PM

The pics showing it back on the palm again?
when were these taken? it looks like the pictures were taken in one of the medinat lobbies, might still be there.

beiklopa

February 7th, 2005, 04:28 AM

I think it is gonna stay on the Palm Jumeirah, though dont think it will take them a short time to build it.

beiklopa

February 7th, 2005, 04:29 AM

btw who needs some nice pics of towers in dubai Marina?

dubaiflo

February 7th, 2005, 02:12 PM

We all !! We all! post them ,best in the thread of every tower!

:cucumber: :drunk: :banana: :banana2: :crazy2: :carrot: :applause:

beiklopa

February 11th, 2005, 03:17 PM

yeah, i wish i could, but this site does not allow me to post any pics , i donno why. if anyone knows how to fix it , tell me please.

AltinD

February 11th, 2005, 03:25 PM

Are you trying to post pictures stored in your own home computer, or have you stored them on a on-line server?

dazz

February 11th, 2005, 04:13 PM

yeah, i wish i could, but this site does not allow me to post any pics , i donno why. if anyone knows how to fix it , tell me please.

go there http://imageshack.us/ press "browse" then choose your image, then press "Host It" and then tell us the URL which you see in the next page... simple as that :)

beiklopa

February 13th, 2005, 03:12 AM

ARRRGHGHH!!!! I m starting hating this tower, nothing can be better and taller than my SEXY Burj Dubai!!!

DUBAI

February 13th, 2005, 03:29 AM

this tower isnt sexy!

but it makes up for that by being

MASSIVE!

tritown

February 13th, 2005, 08:41 AM

I think it's much more overwhelming than it is sexy.

Jue

February 13th, 2005, 10:04 AM

this tower isnt sexy!

but it makes up for that by being

MASSIVE!
Indeed. It's like comparing US7 to Petronas, a humongous block to a tapering structure.

dubaiflo

February 13th, 2005, 05:31 PM

this one will really be massive...
imagine when you stand in front of it and look to the sky... you will not even see the top...

airefigo

February 25th, 2005, 03:08 PM

i thought that "burj" means tower , so if this building is called "al burj" that would be translated as "the tower" ?! and when this building will be named "the tower" what will "the tower" be named then ?! :stupid:

did i miss something ? i mean, there is already a buildung called "the tower" ...

could somebody please explain that ?

Dubai_Boy

February 25th, 2005, 07:36 PM

airefigo , they just think common people like you and me wont figure it out , unless your a geek :)

Tom_Green

April 27th, 2005, 10:42 PM

If they build it, it will take a very long time until it`s build. At first they have to start the project Dubai Waterfront, then they need to build the area around Al Burj ( i don`t mean everything just the infrastructure), then they start to dig a hole, then they start to build and this should take very long, too. I think they will start after the Burj Dubai is completed. That would be really nice because after Burj Dubai we have something new to focus on :D
I think the tower will be ready 2012 - 2014.

fahed

April 28th, 2005, 01:13 AM

I don't think it would be more than 2012.

Cheese Mmmmmmmmmmmm

April 30th, 2005, 06:37 AM

I sure hope not... I want this one built ASAP!!! :) :) :)

SA BOY

May 2nd, 2005, 05:03 AM

I was at the arabian hotel investment confrence and met with some Nakheel guys and the big news is. THIS WILL BE BUILT AND IS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN.
Great news and lets hope its with in the next few years

Dubai-Lover

May 2nd, 2005, 01:42 PM

probably the best news ever

is this enough to change status on emporis? :D

i say yes :lol:

dubaiflo

May 2nd, 2005, 02:15 PM

yessss! that's great news today.....
design state? so they may change the look?

Krazy

May 2nd, 2005, 02:21 PM

no probably just the height.... 1500 m :D

Dubai-Lover

May 2nd, 2005, 05:15 PM

what interests me even more

will this be published? and if yes, when?
are there plans to launch it in the media, like they do with any other tower?

dubaiflo

May 3rd, 2005, 12:51 PM

hehe i am sure they won't publish it that fast, perhaps they wait until the height of BD is official, and then come up with a taller one...

SA BOY

May 4th, 2005, 09:26 AM

the desigfn height will be a secret like BD so I all I know is that its the old pinnacle design only taller and is currently in wind testing so that means they are very serious and I think they will start this sooner rether than later as it will take like 4 years to build it and develop the entire waterfront around it with this as the centre piece.
dont know who would want to live in the middle of a building site, but then again we all do here

Dubai-Lover

May 4th, 2005, 11:59 PM

if they really hurry up and push the waterfront project they could start to construct the tower in 2 years, maybe even later

so, we're still far away from it :(

anyway, it's good they have a lot of time for preparation and testing!!!

Krazy

May 5th, 2005, 01:41 AM

its gonna suck for a tower as amazing as BD to remain tallest for such little time... but then again anything that beats BD should be phenomenal

dubaiflo

May 5th, 2005, 01:11 PM

hehe ... at least both are in dubai. :D

Citystyle

May 17th, 2005, 09:52 AM

All i hope is that Dubia's 3 big building's all make each other taller. 900m would be possible.

Is this the old pinnacle if so, were is the third out of your 3 massive building's. If you can.

dubaiflo

May 17th, 2005, 09:57 AM

it might be in businnes bay because we assume that there will be a competition between the three major developers here, nakheel (waterfront, al burj) emaar (burj dubai) and dubai holding (tower in business bay?), if you look at the businnes bay renders, there is a huge light fountain in the middle, that could be the tower.

city of the future

May 22nd, 2005, 08:56 AM

I hope they build this one

dubaiflo

May 22nd, 2005, 09:08 AM

i am sure nakheel will build a tall tower, maybe they change the location or design, but there will be huge one for sure.

dubaiflo

May 25th, 2005, 11:52 AM

Dubai Waterfront Project helps build interest in the Palm Jebel Ali

A majority of the investors are from the region, especially the UAE. Among them are the leading businesses, financial groups, banks and so on. According to James Wilson, chief executive officer, Nakheel, said “we have interviewed about 140 companies so far, and we are looking at strategic partnerships, which can add value”. The interest in the project has not just come from the GCC but from as far as Australia.

Dubai waterfront is considered as the New Manhattan in the making. It is strategically located for the future developments in Dubai, which will be a new gate way to this part of the world. There are 12 zones in the development and all will be built in phases. The first phase Madinat al Arab makes up 34 per cent of the project. Madinat Al Arab will be the new harbour town and also the last seafront in Dubai, hense it will be the entrance to the Arabian canal.

Dubai Waterfront
It is expected to be ready in five years. The project will be a combination of high and low density developments, with a mix of hotels, business centres, residential components, leisure and theme parks and above all the world’s tallest building Al Burj.

Wilson said “Dubai is going through a period of maturity. Distribution channels are opening up. This level of marketing has not been seen anywhere else. New markets and nationalities are coming to Dubai; second home ownership is gaining popul;arity in the Arab World”.

malec

May 25th, 2005, 02:01 PM

Now here's the real competition. :)

dubaiflo

May 25th, 2005, 03:02 PM

oh yes.
but if nakheel really starts to build this tower lets say in 2007 or 2008, they will win the competition because they can react on burj dubai's height.
actually i want the burj dubai to be taller...

btw the names are annoying, burj dubai and al burj , you cannot talk about the 'burj' unfortunately

DarkBlueBoss

May 25th, 2005, 03:30 PM

i dont think that nakheel will try to surpass Emaar , Burj Dubai has to stand out, cause it carries the name Dubai,
people from all over the world will know that the dubai tower is tallest, and its in Dubai, its a given, its a marketing game, "Burj" could be anywhere ?? But Burj Dubai, is definitely in Dubai, get it

B-Patriot

May 25th, 2005, 05:32 PM

You know there's going to be a Dubai Tower in Doha...I think Towers, two not just one...lol...quite tall too...planned to be taller than the emirates towers...

B-Patriot

May 25th, 2005, 05:35 PM

So this proposed tower is really going ahead!? And its seriously going to compete with BD for the WTB title!!!?

dubaiflo

May 26th, 2005, 11:06 AM

i think so, nakheel will not surrender...

Grollo

May 27th, 2005, 04:29 PM

http://www.emiratestenders.com/CategoryResult.asp?CategoryId=39

Name : High-Rise Tower Construction Project More...
Description : Construction of a 750-metre-high tower comprising (724) apartments and associated leisure and entertainment facilities.
Territory : Dubai
Posted : January 24, 2005
Status : New Tender

Could it be??? You have to pay to get more info unfortunatley :-(

Also it's not Burj Dubai as there are a lot of other current tenders for a 705m high tower on the same site ;-)

dubaiflo

May 28th, 2005, 09:47 AM

that site is crappy, it could be this one, but who cares?
nothing more information than we have already.

Citystyle

June 11th, 2005, 05:57 PM

Can anyone tell me anything about the Durrat Al Bahrain.?

Dubai-Lover

June 11th, 2005, 07:43 PM

check the bahrain forum ;)

DUBAI

June 16th, 2005, 02:52 PM

Can anyone tell me anything about the Durrat Al Bahrain.?

could anyone tell me about load sheading on argentinian power grids?

John-Dory

June 16th, 2005, 04:01 PM

sure, call around to my garden shed any evening and don't forget your anorak it gets chilly in there

andisart

July 4th, 2005, 09:32 PM

Here's a pic I extracted from the Slideshow on the official site:

http://img204.echo.cx/img204/6735/alburjatnight32mu.jpg

BigDreamer

July 5th, 2005, 03:56 AM

can they really pull it off tho, i mean the consturction boom wont go on forever, not to mention the construction cost has rocketed with last 12 months, i truly dont think theyll be able to complete this within this decade in the best case!! most likely the project will be scaled down i say.

Krazy

July 5th, 2005, 07:38 AM

^ or canceled

SA BOY

July 5th, 2005, 09:24 AM

guys what has been cancelled once its anounced in Dubai?? Hydropilis has been moved,Mega towers are U/C or redesigned. Anything of National importance will never be canned cos then no-one will take Dubai Seroiusly. I think the ruling family l;ove the idea of proving people wrong as it shows the guts and determination of dubai as a whole.
Might not happen next week, or next year but it will happen. Dubai needs the waterfront city and a central piece of the puzzel is going to be a massivly tall tower

Krazy

July 5th, 2005, 09:32 AM

Let's hope so. I wasn't implying this is canceled. I just don't see this getting built anytime in the near future.

scorpion

July 5th, 2005, 10:17 AM

patience gentlemen, patience!

;)

Krazy

July 5th, 2005, 10:28 AM

BTW, in that render, the tower looks to be definitely 800m plus

malec

July 5th, 2005, 11:16 AM

BTW, in that render, the tower looks to be definitely 800m plus
It suuuuure does!! :)

Anyway Nakheel will build this if they pull themselves together after all this recent shit we've been hearing.
The waterfront will most likely be built but started in a few years when the palms are finished. That would make more sense.

malec

July 5th, 2005, 12:31 PM

Woah!!!! This is so massive!!! :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
I just counted the floors, 37 in the bottom section and 28 in the others. That makes a whopping 205 floors!!! And that's only 4/5ths of the tower as shown below.
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/769/alburj0is.jpg

Lets take a pessimistic view and say each floor will be 3.5m high (we know well it could be more as there would be plenty of luxury appartments here).
Anyway, 3.5 * 205 = 717.5

As that's only 4/5ths of the height. I've calculated it to be 897m to spire according to the render, and that's only the pessimistic view. This will be some big mofo tower if it's built as shown in the render.

Wait. I'll do the optimistic version aswell taking 4m per floor. That gives 820m for the floors so for the whole tower it's 1025m!!!!! :D:D:D:D

dubaiflo

July 5th, 2005, 12:43 PM

hehe that sounds great ;)

we will see. i guess SA boy is right, they will not cancel these major projects.
that is why i think they will , if nakheel will do anything at all, redesign it respectively palm deira, as it is just too hard to realize.

AltinD

July 6th, 2005, 12:41 PM

Of course it is not cancelled. Nakheel is running continuosly the Waterfront promo video on the monitors of Ibn Al Batutta Shopping Mall. They call Al Burj there as one the tallest man-made structure.

BTW Al Burj is located on Medinat which will be located on FERM GROUND. Al Burj will NOT be build on reclamed land from the sea.

SA BOY

July 6th, 2005, 01:34 PM

I told you guys when this was announced that I know someone in the know, know what I mean? anyway it was due to be 1001m and be completed in Jan 2010 hence 1001

dubaiflo

July 6th, 2005, 07:08 PM

BTW Al Burj is located on Medinat which will be located on FERM GROUND. Al Burj will NOT be build on reclamed land from the sea.

who said it will be?

Dubai-Lover

July 7th, 2005, 06:19 AM

referring to post 218
don't forget the upper part of the tower, there are even more floors, right below the spires!!

BigDreamer

July 12th, 2005, 10:02 AM

wow really !!! so burj dubai wont be the world tallest for very long !!!
unless burj dubai is taller then 1001m, and their keeping it undercover for a big surprise.

do nakheel and emaar share this kinda info between each other, or do they compete with each other, i know this is a very silly question to ask, but i mean the ruling family knows everyting dont they??

malec

July 17th, 2005, 08:50 PM

referring to post 218
don't forget the upper part of the tower, there are even more floors, right below the spires!!
Oh right, I thought that was part of the spire. Sorry but I can't count the floors there, too small to see. But the height stays the same anyway.

Stephan23

August 4th, 2005, 09:20 AM

Does anyone know when the Dubai Waterfront starts??

Stephan23

August 4th, 2005, 09:28 AM

Also: When Palm Jebel Ali is finish??

dubaiflo

August 4th, 2005, 10:49 AM

dubai waterfront is supposed to start this summer, while palm jebel ali is ready by 2008 completely. just read the threads, there are all the answers... :)

AcesHigh

August 10th, 2005, 03:27 AM

whats the distance between the towers Burj Dubai, Burj Al Arab, Al Burj, and that avenue full of towers (which include The Tower and also that beautiful 300+ meters administrative center)???? I guess it wont be a compact skyline right? There will be kinda of a good distance between each building, correct?

In the image above, the Al Burj would be located in the Palm trunk, but where would the Burj Dubai and that avenue with the many skyscrapers be each located? (edit the pic please and add arrows with distance)

http://www.nzcal.com/mark/23flyinghome/images/PIC_0241.jpg

Dubai-Lover

August 10th, 2005, 07:43 AM

dubai will have several huge skylines, not only one, but about 5 or 6 huge ones spread over the city

al burj will be on dubai waterfront, not on palm jumeirah which you see in this pic
palm jum will get its own tower, not yet really known

right know dubai has 2 skylines, a small one at the creek and a relatively big one at sheikh zayed road, where the emirates towers are located
these 2 are some 8km away from each other, while the sheikh zayed road skyline is 10km away from burj al arab, which is 4km away from palm jumeirah and dubai marina
then there will be palm jebel ali, dubai waterfront and airport city, some 10km further

also a dubailand skyline more on the continent, where right now is only desert

download the MAJOR PROJECTS.PDF map, it's awesome and has everything in it but dubai waterfront, which is left of palm jebel ali
http://www.gis.gov.ae/en/downloads/downloads.asp?nPage=4

enjoi

August 12th, 2005, 01:29 PM

:OOO

this is absolutely amazing! :O

GO DUBAI GO!!! :D

khanum

August 15th, 2005, 02:17 PM

anyone know when construcion is supposed to start on the al burj

Tom_Green

August 15th, 2005, 03:00 PM

farnush

August 15th, 2005, 06:09 PM

sharjah has 2 skylines ...... one in the amazing buheira and the other between dubai and sharjah ....

Dubai-Lover

August 15th, 2005, 06:56 PM

yup
but i drove through sharjah twice last week and it's growing together
it seems like sharjah is building more than dubai

insane what's going on there and they have way more towers than dubai, just no really spectacular ones.....yet

eg, there's a triple tower complex topped out near the dubai border, seems to be around 150m

anyway, this one is still a proposal
if it was approved already, construction can start in 2 years the earliest

Tom_Green

August 15th, 2005, 07:36 PM

It`s impressive. `
I think it`s the most unknown skyline in the world.
http://tinypic.com/al5hc4.jpg

It would be nice if someone would make 100 pics in Sharjah. I don`t really know anythink about the city.

Citystyle

September 1st, 2005, 09:34 AM

sharjah and dubai will be one serious urban hub in a few years

malec

September 17th, 2005, 01:25 AM

OK, I know a lot of people (myself included) don't really like the design of this tower but it's still being designed.

I just found this on Skyscraperpage. It's a fantasy tower by Vaidas and I think it would be perfect at the Al Burj site. It would look great next to water and works as a stand-alone tower too. Here's the image:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2739/megascraper9ay.gif

This guy really knows how to design towers. He should work for SOM or something. It looks absolutely brilliant!! :D

BTW it reaches 850m to spire and about 750m to roof.

Dubai-Lover

September 17th, 2005, 07:49 AM

i have better news
a real estate company has been created for al burj :rofl:

damn, they are serious about it

Al Burj Real Estate plans major UAE investments

Staff Report

Dubai :
Al Burj Real Estate Ltd, a new private stock company with a committed capital of Dh7 billion, has been launched in Dubai, making it one of the largest capitalised real estate firms in the UAE.

The company, which has been initiated by Dubai Islamic Bank with leading businessmen and corporate groups in the UAE and the region, is eyeing massive investments in the burgeoning real estate sector in the UAE, said an official statement issued yesterday. As part of its investment plans, Al Burj Real Estate has bought a significant share of the property in Phase I of Madinat Al Arab, the planned urban downtown at the heart of Dubai Waterfront.

This investment is Al Burj’s initial venture into residential, commercial and office developments in the UAE which is backed by the expertise of its stakeholders, which includes real estate developers, financial institutions and a number of other prominent investors.

“Our core objectives centre on offering a vast array of diversified real estate investment management options, keeping in view the burgeoning demand in the real estate sector,” said Dr Mohammad Khalfan Bin Kharbash, UAE Minister of State for Finance and Industry and DIB Chairman, while disclosing details about the new company’s investment strategy.

“In line with our values and mission, we have made a significant investment in the Madinat Al Arab, which will be anchored by Al Burj, one of the world’s tallest buildings, making it a symbol of Dubai’s meteoric rise and embodying the vision of the project.” The board of Al Burj Real Estate will be announced soon, he said, adding: “Madinat Al Arab will encompass all the key components of the masterplan comprising mixed use, commercial, residential, resort and amenity zones.

“At Al Burj Real Estate, our objective is to involve professionals and experts who will play pivotal roles in all our plans. There has been a boom in the real estate sector and with the continuous economic growth, the demand for real estate will only further accelerate,” he added.

The company also plans to develop and manage a portfolio of real estate projects within the UAE and the region that includes residential and commercial properties to provide fully integrated property management solutions for its customers’ real estate needs.

PROPERTY
Deals worth Dh76b show sector is thriving

Investments in property announced last week exceeded Dh76 billion, with more to come as Cityscape 2005, the region’s largest commercial architecture, property and construction exhibition opens at the Dubai International Exhibition Cenre today. Last week’s investments defy talk of a softening in the industry or the imminent bursting of any speculative bubble, officials said.

“Whatever slowdown was witnessed during the past few months was due to the summer season; it is seasonality, not a softening,” Adel Al Shirawi, chief executive of mortgage services provider Tamweel, told Gulf News on Thursday.

“Sales may have slowed because residents went on vacation; now everyone is coming back and we see a flurry of business extending into the coming months.” With new supplies coming into the market, real estate agents will have a wide variety of projects to sell, he said.

Among the projects announced last week were the Dh25 billion Al Reem Island in Abu Dhabi; Dh18 billion Al Nujoom Islands in Sharjah; Dh7 billion Aqua Dunya park and Dh6.6 billion Al Barari development, both in Dubailand; Dh6 billion worth of property and hotel projects by Al Habtoor Group; Dh6 billion Marsa Al Khor project in Dubai Festival City; Dh5.5 billion Falcon City of Wonders; and Dh1.83 billion Saraya Islands project in Ras Al Khaimah. These were in addition to other individual projects announced last week.

Stephan23

September 17th, 2005, 10:37 AM

Very good news D-L.

THX

malec

September 17th, 2005, 10:48 AM

But they give no details on al burj

Dubai-Lover

September 17th, 2005, 10:50 AM

Dhs7 billion landmark real estate company launched

Al Burj Real Estate Limited, a newly-established private stock company with a committed capital of approximately AED 7 billion, has been launched in Dubai, making it one of the largest capitalized real estate firms in the UAE.

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/9/17549-DrKharbash.jpg
H.E. Dr. Mohammad Khalfan Bin Kharbash, UAE Minister of State for Finance and Industry and DIB Chairman

Al Burj Real Estate, which is initiated by Dubai Islamic Bank with leading businessmen and corporate groups in the UAE and the region, is eyeing massive investments in the burgeoning real estate sector within the UAE.

As part of its investment plans, Al Burj Real Estate has bought a significant share of the property in Phase I of Madinat Al Arab, the planned urban downtown at the heart of Dubai Waterfront. This investment is Al Burj's initial venture into residential, commercial and office developments in the UAE which is backed by the expertise of its stakeholders, which includes real estate developers, financial institutions and a number of other prominent investors.

Disclosing details about Al Burj's investment strategy, H.E. Dr. Mohammad Khalfan Bin Kharbash, UAE Minister of State for Finance and Industry and DIB Chairman, said:
'Our core objectives centre on offering a vast array of diversified real estate investment management options, keeping in view the burgeoning demand in the real estate sector. In line with our values and mission, we have made a significant investment in the Madinat Al Arab, which will be anchored by Al Burj, one of the world's tallest buildings, making it a symbol of Dubai's meteoric rise and embodies the vision of the project.'

The board of Al Burj Real Estate will be announced soon, he said, adding: 'Madinat Al Arab will encompass all the key components of the master plan comprising mixed use, commercial, residential, resort and amenity zones.

Dr. Kharbash also said
'At Al Burj Real Estate, our objective is to involve professionals and experts who will play pivotal roles in all our plans. There has been a boom in the real estate sector and with the continuous economic growth, the demand for real estate will only further accelerate.'

The company also plans to develop and manage a portfolio of real estate projects within the UAE and the region that includes residential and commercial properties to provide fully integrated property management solutions for its customers' real estate needs.