Been in touch with Fahad @ MH today, he says the delays to MH are down to various companies!

Been in touch with Fahad @ MH today, he says the delays to MH are down to various companies!

Did he confirm Apr 06 handover?

No, but i still want to know why you guys are pioneers!

do you dress like pioneers? talk like them? go around prospecting for nuggets o' gold?

or have pioneer themed parties in MH

Did he confirm Apr 06 handover?

Trust me, even if the handover is in april, good luck getting into the marina before june.

there are all these apartments, as well as all the offices in TECOM, and guess how many lanes there are... 1!

and it gets better, this lane is only 100 metres long, after that it merges with another single lane, which is the way into the guantanamo complex of thousands of villas!

so realy, be pleased with the delay. no one will rent there till they can actualy get in!

No, but i still want to know why you guys are pioneers!

do you dress like pioneers? talk like them? go around prospecting for nuggets o' gold?

or have pioneer themed parties in MH


LOL, LOL U better speak to gx about that!, lol :)

Did he confirm Apr 06 handover?


Yes he did! :) :)

Never heard of Wembley letting agency, however this company has a fairly good reputation in Dubai and has recently advertised as doing short term letting agreements...

Thats http://www.bhomes.com/ (Doh!)

I have recently done what appears to be a decent deal with Wembley on a short term rental. They seemed pretty straight and seem to know the matket well.

Do they have a website?

"DUBAI" what makes you think that June will be any better for traffic?

i assume he wanted to say it takes you three months to reach Marina Heights :D

well it is not that worse with the new access road coming from Dubai City, but of course the more towers are finished, the worse it will be. just think of JBR.

So the marina does need a cinema and entertainment complex next to "tallest block in the world" by Marina Heights / Torch then as it could take 1 hour to reach the one in the shopping mall by car!

well till this cinema is built, the new interchange is ready as well :D

or 10 mins walk over to JBR

and they are upgrading the junction. apparently. but it just looks like they got half way and have stopped doing anything to piss everyone off.

dubai you are not up to date, they are building a new interchange and new dubai marina access roads etc.
they are even building another interchange 5 1/2 near the end of the marina, and another one for JLT.

Blimey! guys i am lost with all this building work going on, however thanks for keeping us updated, provides useful info when your thousands of miles away!!!

Do they have a website?

"DUBAI" what makes you think that June will be any better for traffic?

thats when half the city leaves for the summer holidays

dubai you are not up to date, they are building a new interchange and new dubai marina access roads etc.
they are even building another interchange 5 1/2 near the end of the marina, and another one for JLT.


YOU ARE NOT UP TO DATE!

i have been down there twice this week during working hours, and not a single person has been working.

2 1/2 has already been built, the Nakheel interchange by ibn battuta.

Marina acces B has been propsed at the other end of the marina.

In setting, today
http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/7083/dsc013991pd.jpg

MH artistic impression
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8246/dsc014647ck.jpg
Just to entertain you.

YOU ARE NOT UP TO DATE!

i have been down there twice this week during working hours, and not a single person has been working.

2 1/2 has already been built, the Nakheel interchange by ibn battuta.

Marina acces B has been propsed at the other end of the marina.


2 months ago there still was the old interchange
when you look closely you can see new piles for bridges already
work on this interchange is progressing really fast

you're right, the other interchange at the end of the marina is approved and should start construction once the new 5 is ready

Yeah, they knocked half of it down. built a nice little diversion. but on sunday and thursday nobody was there!

well ok but the past few weeks it was heavily UC that's what altin and dennis said.

the JLT interchange is a totally new one along with Marina B and Ibn Battuta. so it is IC 5 1/4 ;)

^ Speaking of Interchange 5;Middle East Foundation was load testing (putting all those concrete blocks on top) a pile just opposite 23 Marina, accross the road.

Why in a hell would they do that there.

well according to Sa boy ?! this will be part of Tecom and not the marina? would be stupid it is too far away from the marina.
btw this is the area they cleaned and removed all that stuff half a year ago?

hey ColinH, how come you is dissin Wembley?

Like the beach photo DUBAI.
Why isnt there anyone around?
In every photo I see of the Marina there aren't any people, not even on the beaches.

it looks indeed empty, if Dubai's hotels have the world's highest occupancy rate, then where are everyone :weird:

it was late and stormy and windy according to nick so that could be the reason.

^ Speaking of Interchange 5;Middle East Foundation was load testing (putting all those concrete blocks on top) a pile just opposite 23 Marina, accross the road.

Why in a hell would they do that there.
according to the plan. the interchange will start around that area, its really big , and has shitloads of bridges.i saw the plan pic , but dont remember where tho. pity i cannot provide u with it guyz

ah btw , HAPPY NEw YEAR TO EVERYONE:)

it was late and stormy and windy according to nick so that could be the reason.

Yes, there was next to noone in the sea, all the hotels had red flags up.

the sun was almost down, and there was a cold wind too...

but does look like it will rain for NYE tonight :bash:

Yep, New Years Eve afternoon, and a safe drive home from the office along SRZ!

Interesting to find out where the closest metro station will be and then we will not need to use the SZR junction 5, 5 1/2 or 5 3/4....

Has anyone seen a map?

Yes, there was next to noone in the sea, all the hotels had red flags up.

the sun was almost down, and there was a cold wind too...

but does look like it will rain for NYE tonight :bash:

a flood at the autodrome, this should be fun :sleepy:

Yep, New Years Eve afternoon, and a safe drive home from the office along SRZ!

Interesting to find out where the closest metro station will be and then we will not need to use the SZR junction 5, 5 1/2 or 5 3/4....

Has anyone seen a map?


yes, check the Dubai Metro project thread but from memory the closest one will be in Media City, only 7-10dhs away from marina phase 1

no there is one near phase 1 juiced!

http://www.yapi-merkezi.com/turkce/dubai/Dubaimetroharita.JPG

Happy new year everyone.

All the best for 2006 to one and all. A special thanks goes to the most prolific contributors - the info posted by them has been invaluable especially to those living thousands of miles from Dubai. In particular, thanks to: Dubai-lover, dubaiflo, dubai, AltinD, juiced, trances, dubai_steve, dazz (for the maps!), beiklopa and finally al-million!!! Apologies if I have missed anybody in this category!

thanks and happy new year to all marina heights owners :)

GX has said it all, I can only reiterate the same message, Happy new year all. Keep in tough for 2006 this should be the count down year for most of us before we move in to MH. See you all I hope. KP

Happy New Year....2006!

If the schedule is for completition by April 2006, has anyone finalised the rather thorny issue of the agreed finish in their apartments?

Has anyone been given an inspection date yet, or is that still too early?

Came across this URL (below) earlier today. Does anyone know is it a private let or a company?

http://www.marinaheightstower.net/

It sounds very promising....

Some more taken on December 26th

http://tinypic.com/ji2e6g.jpg http://tinypic.com/ji2ebn.jpg

Happy New Year....2006!

If the schedule is for completition by April 2006, has anyone finalised the rather thorny issue of the agreed finish in their apartments?

Has anyone been given an inspection date yet, or is that still too early?

Came across this URL (below) earlier today. Does anyone know is it a private let or a company?

http://www.marinaheightstower.net/

It sounds very promising....

Lol - You aint going to get any choice of finishings! Its going to be the standard "karama" look! If communications to date from the developer is anything to go by, you will have to chase him regards inspection dates etc.

btw: The URL is not a company, its a private let of a single apartment.

Happy New Year....2006!

If the schedule is for completition by April 2006, has anyone finalised the rather thorny issue of the agreed finish in their apartments?

Has anyone been given an inspection date yet, or is that still too early?

Came across this URL (below) earlier today. Does anyone know is it a private let or a company?

http://www.marinaheightstower.net/

It sounds very promising....

Richard, this is my website.

I have since updated it and am now selling and moving to the Torch since my HSBC mortgage was not approved.

Thanks Dubai Steve - nice piece of work on the web site and good luck with the sale.

Lol - You aint going to get any choice of finishings! Its going to be the standard "karama" look! If communications to date from the developer is anything to go by, you will have to chase him regards inspection dates etc.

btw: The URL is not a company, its a private let of a single apartment.

The standard karama look is the new Dubai luxury look.

MH!!!!!
XD

The standard karama look is the new Dubai luxury look.

:D you are living in the meadows is this the low karama look then?

^ Worse!!! :D

:D you are living in the meadows is this the low karama look then?

the promotional material describes emaarland as being "luxurious" so i think not! :D (sound of roof falling)

Dubai Steve: u mention a rental plan on your web site, which company are you referring to?

06/01/2006

http://tinypic.com/k14ffb.jpg

http://tinypic.com/jsehqw.jpg

The base & main entrance:

http://tinypic.com/jsejbo.jpg

Pretty fantastic images, who is getting the final payment cheques prepared for the end of March 2006? or do we think later??

Looking att he pics I dont think we need worry till April at the earlyest. This is a date I was given.

ewwwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow! Awesome awesome awesome tower. breathtaking mindsoothing heartfilling awesomeness of best (imo) tower in DXB!!!

hold your horses.

Pretty fantastic images, who is getting the final payment cheques prepared for the end of March 2006? or do we think later??

Thanks for the pics, AltinD. Completion date is April - toward the end of Apr, I suspect. Dont hand any final payments over till you are happy with the finishing - get an independent party to inspect. A lot of corners have been cut in this development AND no independent management company has been selected.

Thanks for the pics, AltinD. Completion date is April - toward the end of Apr, I suspect. Dont hand any final payments over till you are happy with the finishing - get an independent party to inspect. A lot of corners have been cut in this development AND no independent management company has been selected.


Your right in what you say about corners being cut, i spoke to someone who knows the developer very well & will be working with MH in a very significant way.

He has been inside MH many times. He echoes what you have said that corners have been cut on the finishing and spec (ie things done on the cheap!). His overall view on the MH spec is not Bad but not brilliant either, especially when you compare what is being built at the moment.

I have been told the developer is looking to act as the managment company, so they can cream of the top here as well!!!. the developer is also looking to gather the yearly service charges in advance for the whole year & not monthly (sure helps with cashflow!!!)

The management compnay should be a non profit making independent company away for the the developer. The only way to stop this will be the 360 + owners of MH applying pressure on the developer to change this, which can happen.

On a positive note this chap did comment that MH does have a fantastic location at the Marina, which may provide some comfort!

Anybody know of a MH Owners forum?

Sam69: Need to start rallying the troops! PM me if you know of other owners and if you are aware of a MH specific forum.

Feel free to use www.hidubai.com ...

Anybody know of a MH Owners forum?

Sam69: Need to start rallying the troops! PM me if you know of other owners and if you are aware of a MH specific forum.

isn't this a marina heights owners thread :D ?

Snagging - never my real strength!

Getting independent advise are wise words indeed, especially when you have never done anything like this before - Ha Ha.

I wrote to a couple of the construction companies listed under the RCIS web site as being based in Dubai, however did not receive any reply.

I do not know of any professional snagging companies in Dubai (I am sure it is just a matter of time though!) Has anyone else come across any?

In the UK, they appear to be quite common place now

http://www.snagging.org/Snag_list.pdf although not sure how relevant in UAE, especially with the arbitration process!

With so little firm contractual information at the beginning (standard of finish) it will be difficult to challenge the subjective elements of the property..

Good luck...

gx: I am or will be on complection a MH owner ( 1 bed apartment ) all be it a one bed I would still like the the finish to be good quality for my family. Like Dubaiflo I thought this was the MH forum.

damn
we now must have almost 20 members who have bought here

so, marina heights will be the perfect forum meeting place :D

Been talking to my MH contact, he has recommend using a british chartered surveying firm like Cluttons or Colliers to do the inspections, who have offices in Dubai & are independent ie can't be "bribed". (My contact knows a trusted contact at Cluttons)

We would have more clout if you can have a number of units inspected on the day ie 6/8 thus that will prove that any problems are far reaching & not an isolated case.

The contract does state that the final say by the independent surveyor will be binding on both parties.

As for the management company we need an independent company for this & can enforce the developer to get three quotes for them to justify the 8 dirhams per sq ft charge, this is on the high side especially if the developer can not prove where this money is going to, their needs to be sinking fund/reserve for future maintenance issues ie on the lobby area/communal areas etc...

By the way I have been informed that MH only has 2 lifts for 365 odd apartments, this should be interesting for folks on higher floors if the lifts are busy!!!

Is 1 personal inspection day allowed now before the snagging inspection on completion, or does this jepordise the right of a snagging inspection?

What problems do you expect to find? I thought snagging is just things like windows do not shut properly or tiling quality, cracks, loose wiring etc. I do not think you will get the developer to redesign all the kitchens or change the tiles etc.

Regarding the lifts, the advertising mentions separate lifts for marina facing apartments.

Service charge is payable 1 year in advance so that would sort out the sinking fund.

Thats what i always thought a snagging list is. So it just detail check i.e like quality control, but i don't think it allows for i don't like the qaulity on these tiles change them all rather it would be that tile is cracked it needs replacing.

Why is there a gap in the door frame etc.

Maybe you can pass it my your contact when you get the details sam69.

By the way i don't own in marina heights just adding to the discussion as to what i think a snagging list is.

Is 1 personal inspection day allowed now before the snagging inspection on completion, or does this jepordise the right of a snagging inspection?

What problems do you expect to find? I thought snagging is just things like windows do not shut properly or tiling quality, cracks, loose wiring etc. I do not think you will get the developer to redesign all the kitchens or change the tiles etc.

Regarding the lifts, the advertising mentions separate lifts for marina facing apartments.

Service charge is payable 1 year in advance so that would sort out the sinking fund.

I understand you will have an inspection before handover, but i have been told that the finishes are not up to scratch, thus you will need to inform the developer. If he dismisses this, then you will ned to appoint an independent 3rd part to comment, which will be then binding on both parties.

I agree that you will not have the kitchen's/applicance replaced just becuase you dont like them, but it is to do with finishes ie decor/fittings. It's too late to worry about the kitchens & other fittings at this late stage.

As for the Management company having the developer in charge of this is completly unacceptable, as their is no " Transparency ", any surplus service charge should go into a sinking/resreve fund for future maintenance issue's not in the developer's back pocket. The developer is going to be charging 8 dirhams per sq foot, the actual cost of providing services is around 4/5 dirhams, so where is the other 3 odd dirhams going, the developer needs to prove this!

As for the lifts I am only passing on the comment from my contact that thier are 2 lifts, however i will clarify with him when i speak to him over the next few days as to whether he means 2 lifts per view or 2 as a whole. I hope i am wrong, as 2 lifts is a joke.

I will keep the forum informed, as soon as i know more!

We would have more clout if you can have a number of units inspected on the day ie 6/8 thus that will prove that any problems are far reaching & not an isolated case.



I agree, all owners should be tackling this as a single group so count me in. Besides, it will should be a lot cheaper also.

Count me in too.

Excellent pics AltinD! You really capture the magnifcence of the MH location. The pic of the tower rising over the villas look really nice too.

If you guys (owners/residents) in the MH get organized why don't you set up your own webpage like the MAG 218 Community (http://mag218.blogspot.com/). If you do, I'd like to link it there and at the Dubai Marina Communities (http://marinacomm.blogspot.com) site. :)

^ Thanks. Another one from 26/11/2005. Posted earlier: http://tinypic.com/k153yv.jpg

^Checked out the linked pic. Excellent! I want to touch it up to get better contrast on all the dramatic elements--the clouds, the sky colors... Then I'll add it to my Marina Heights review. ~if that's OK with you.

jan 10, 2006

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/sahmad/b6d813ba.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/sahmad/a585fbd8.jpg

I like the way MH slices off the side of Al Seef. It makes that tower look nice and sleek as it should rather than having its big bulging middle.

al million, i can see into your apartment :D

so much for having extra privacy by being in the penthouse!

well with a 10 times zoom camera , there is no privacy ;)

wow u remember my camera zoom flo, no wonder ur dubai's favorite

i do remember because i have the same zoom ;)

^ I have two more :tongue2:

optical or digital? ah i remember you had that already while dennis still had his old camera, he couldn't zoom to Burj Dubai from chelsea tower.

well with a 10 times zoom camera , there is no privacy ;)

Good job there is reflective glass then.

Have been reading all the comments about the finish etc.
It leaves me wondering exactly what we have all bought into!!
It certainly seems we are not going to recieve what was originally marketed on the developers website.
If this is the case, then without doubt, we will be far better of acting together as a consortium to resolve any potential issues, which by the sounds of it are clearly going to arise.
By the way could somebody clarify for me, what you mean by 'cutting corners' and just how bad or good is this development.

Real estate developers scamming people in Dubai is nothing new, infact it is to be expected.

Darren, What bad comments about finish? We are just talking about the best way to go about the snagging process. Snagging is done on every development. It is just a check to see if there is anything wrong and to ask for it to be put right before completetion. I am not aware of any problems with finish in Marina Heights?

is anyone planning a visit soon? perhaps it is time to take more photos. Probably looks much nicer now since the showhome has been cleaned up after construction and the furniture in place.

(ps. only reason I am selling is I that sadly I can no longer make final payment - not because of the finish etc.)

Steve, Just as a point of interest were you trying to get the money for HSBC Dubai because if so I also had big problems with them but HSBC UK were really helpfull and saved the day for me.

Have been reading all the comments about the finish etc.
It leaves me wondering exactly what we have all bought into!!
It certainly seems we are not going to recieve what was originally marketed on the developers website.
If this is the case, then without doubt, we will be far better of acting together as a consortium to resolve any potential issues, which by the sounds of it are clearly going to arise.
By the way could somebody clarify for me, what you mean by 'cutting corners' and just how bad or good is this development.
Although I have nothing to do with the MH project and no inside information, my gut feeling is that no-one is really being decieved or cheated by the developer. The "cutting corners" is probably just part of the normal practice of running a profit seeking enterprise. By the same token the buyers need to exercise due diligence in getting as much out of the snagging proceedure as possible. So, I support Mr. Hardisty's plea that buyers act together in a "consortium." :grouphug:

How to do so, however, is the real question. There may be a handful of buyers on this forum--you know who you are!

You definitely should get together online, whether here or in your own forum. Secondly, this small group is going to have to locate other buyers and pull them in. If you set up an online profile through your own webpage other buyers will happen upon your site when "Googling"--actually MSN and Yahoo seem to do a better job of pointing surfers to relevant sites.

Thirdly, though some manner of persuasiveness or "cunning" you guys could try to find out from the developer how to link with other buyers.

Good luck.

there are at least 20 Marina Heights owners here, though only 7-8 regular visitors.
i am also sure there are at least another 5 owners watching this thread and just do not register.
this is enough for a consortium.

You Marina Bitches need to get yourselves sorted quickly then, handover is only a few months away!

I have only have a 1 bed apartment but I still want it to look good. if needs be count me in for any consortium that is set up.

Count me in as part of the consortium

What people have to realise, while there may be problems with finish, use of cheaper materials/spec in areas, there are also other issue of the association/management body for MH. This could have far reaching consequences if not sorted. You also have to put things into context as many other projects in Dubai have been standing still for months, at least MH owners will be given the keys to their units in the next few months albeit we have been given a standard finish & not what was promised in the marketing blurb!.

Many people have come forward over the past few days expressing interest in getting a group together, I think this will be the way forward & we need to start this process right away in preparation for April 06.

I don't mind stepping up to the plate to start the ball rolling here, in order for this to work I need MH owners to PM me or email me on srupa@aol.com their full name, MH unit number, email address & contact number. This will help to identify the number of people we have & then we can move forward from here!.

I have 2/3 people that I have been given details on that are MH owners from my a contact of mine, also i have been told of a big investor in MH who has bought some 25 odd units, so he/she may provide some more backbone.

Anway I look forward to hearing from interested people.

Regards :)

Good Idea Sam.

ps. I think Dubai_Lover mentioned that someone he knows bought these 25 units for investment / rental.

Yeah, good luck Sam. I already see some hands coming up. The thing is, come handover time all buyers will automatically become part of the owner's association. You will be required to have an anual meeting, but for your own benefit, something more regular and earlier on would be better. Considering that, there's no reason for everyone not to organize sooner, especially to deal with handover issues before things get set in stone.

Hi All!

I am a UK based MHT owner (one bed apartment) and with the run up to handover I would also like register my interest in exchanging news, views and information with other owners. There are a number of missues that clear;ly need adressing with developers.

I have been following this site over the past year and would like to thank to all the guys who have posted and sent photograhs of the on going development of Marina Heights, it has been invaluable.

HJ

What people have to realise, while there may be problems with finish, use of cheaper materials/spec in areas, there are also other issue of the association/management body for MH. This could have far reaching consequences if not sorted. You also have to put things into context as many other projects in Dubai have been standing still for months, at least MH owners will be given the keys to their units in the next few months albeit we have been given a standard finish & not what was promised in the marketing blurb!.

Many people have come forward over the past few days expressing interest in getting a group together, I think this will be the way forward & we need to start this process right away in preparation for April 06.

I don't mind stepping up to the plate to start the ball rolling here, in order for this to work I need MH owners to PM me or email me on srupa@aol.com their full name, MH unit number, email address & contact number. This will help to identify the number of people we have & then we can move forward from here!.

I have 2/3 people that I have been given details on that are MH owners from my a contact of mine, also i have been told of a big investor in MH who has bought some 25 odd units, so he/she may provide some more backbone.

Anway I look forward to hearing from interested people.

Regards :)

Nice one - count me in Samir.

Sam69: i agree that all owners need to work together so count me in also. I think you should set up a forum for owners only to allow for some transparancy and so we all know each other. It would allows us to move forward with other things including getting a better deal for those that want to rent out their apartment etc.

If u want i can try and set up the forum. If you decide to do it then make sure only those who are owners can enter the forum.

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duplicated post . . please delete

Did you know there is already a forum set up at 'dubaiproperty.com' for Marina Height owners to communicate with each other?

The link below is to the MH public area . . . .

Marina Heights Forum - Public Section (http://www.dubaipropertyforum.com/board/viewforum.php?f=16&sid=304c55ee447d3985473ddaff5b77a4de)

There is also a private area, members have to register for this area with ChrisO the Administrator.

Hope this is useful for your owners association & good luck with your quest :)

Just be carefull what you do.

DUBAI doesnt like molycudling trade union consumer protection groups. i heard about a year or so back when the first owners association was formed for Marina Phase 1 that, such associations need permission from the building owners to form... not sure f this is still the case. but still, be carefull.


oh and btw, this is the MH thread, this stuff should be in the Property investment threadamidig.

lol, most of the developers , at least trident, encourages such an owners association.
it will be created after handover.

obviously^^


but other residents may form there own and you could end up with 5 or 6 orgs in one tower which isnt exactly progress.

I don't know why the concerns and plea for caution. You make it sound "Dubai" like Dubai is a police state--like someone's going to whisper to the powers that be that someone is starting a union. It's no big deal at all for these owners to organize themselves in any way they see fit. Even if multiple groups spring up at least that's more people who are organised in some fashion and they will make up a pool of owners/residents that can be more easily communicated with than a lot of scattered individuals. My guess is that this is the one single place on the whole Internet that has the largest number of Marina Heights owners involved, whether as active posters or just readers. Whether this Dubai Marina building forum is intended to function in such a way, the fact is it does work as a vehicle for these guys to get in touch with one another. I think that's great. Because of all the active discussion going on even more people will stumble across Marina Heights and other Skyscrapercity forums.

21/01/2006

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http://tinypic.com/mc50tc.jpg

http://tinypic.com/mc50lx.jpg

Ok, ok, now the interesting part:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/MH1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/MH2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/MH4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/MH3.jpg

Great Pics once again!, Altin, Many Thanks! :)

cheers. last one is amazing altin, thanks.
where is larven, this would be perfect for the tallest block :cheers:

cheers. last one is amazing altin, thanks.
where is larven, this would be perfect for the tallest block :cheers:

Indeed it would, if I can find the time I might get around to it!

well no need to hurry glad you are here ;)

With some cloning the picture can be extended on the left, so it can accomodate Infinity Tower also.

nice pics A.

yep , I agree cool pics, mind you it looks like a much later finish than April to me. Any pics of the pool area or lobby area.

Article on Dubai Property (The Sunday Times 22/01/06) :rant:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1996116,00.html

already posted in the investment thread :)

ok thanx flo!

[IMG]http://i1.tinypic.com/mhvnyd.jpg[/IMG

Quick attempt with Photoshop

wow really nice.. thanks!

Clearly those towers need their crowns back :cheers:

Nice photo of the promenade close to Marina Heights

http://www.marinaheightstower.net/promenade.jpg

www.marinaheightstower.com

where are the credits for those photos :bash: ??

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2552/mh19dw.jpg

:eek:

thanks a lot i appreciate your work really... great :)

WOW great work larven. For a second I thought there was a sudden delivery of the glass and Marina Heights was completed :)

How about adding the Torch next to it, that would be incredible to see.

What happened to Larven's post? :?

Ooops. I see it now.

looks pretty much like a real photo!!

awesome render :)


can't wait to see some of these finished

Its work in progress really. I haven't finished some of the other towers you see there as no doubt they will be hidden by some of the new, bigger towers and I'm not sure of the sightlines yet. I will however keep adding to this montage and slowly build up the tallest block on the planet. :)

oh wow that's amazing thanks a lot for your work. but don't rush :D

can't wait...the marina is just plain amazing and i do not even dare to imagine how it is going to look like in 4 years...

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From ET

An old aerial from a different angle, Marina Heights in the center
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from ET

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Courtesy of http://marinaphotos.blogspot.com/

dubai marina is the greatest project on earth...

^^ if the two lane roads in it are able to handle the traffic in 2009 of over 10,000 cars at the same time

i'll bet this road will not remain with two lanes ;)

also there will be a 2nd interchange for the marina at the back.

i read in a magazine on construction recently that dubai marina is supposed to take 20 years for total completion... considering the first phase started in late 90s... that shud mean the entire project will be ready only by 2015-2018?

well why should it take so long.. doubt that. 2010 at the latest.

How the fuck could it take that long?
By 2010 everything should be done including all those supertalls. Of course there will still be a few towers under construction then but still, the marina won't look like a construction site.

The only way it could take until 2018 is if they have one worker for each tower :D

lots of bullshit in the news these days

I was told by MAG 218 developer that he was told by someone high-up (I'm not sure who he said it was--Emaar, Sh. Moh'd, Dubai municipality officials?) that construction in the Marina would be completed by 2009. Days later in speaking to the project manager he said that Sh. Moh'd has on occasion driven through the Marina complaining that construction was taking too long and telling people to hurry up. Just picture it (well, don't picture it--that might offend someone):

Dubai Marina crowds: Hi, Sheikh Mohammed. (cheering and waving).:wave::cheer:
Sheikh Mohammed: Hey guys. Shame on you for taking so long to finish everything up.:nono:
Dubai Marina crowds: It's not me, your highness.:dunno: Not me either.:bash:
Sheikh Mohammed: I'll be back in 2009, guys. I'm warning you!:horse:

... :jk: and to the powers that be, no harm intended--just a little lighthearted humor.

lol. he must have done his inspections recently on all the projects...first the news that sed ALL of the JLT towers HAVE to be finished by 2008, then this (someone mentioned it as well - think it was godubai!) and now the dubailand thing...wonder wats next on his inspection route...

who and where was it mentioned that JLT had to be completed by 2008? I don't see that happening either btw!

no but i think by end of 2009 both are finished, i am convinced.

I think he's serious about the Olympics. :runaway:

no way marinawill finish by 2009 ..... that mean the other 100 remaining towers has to be relesed by 2007.jlt by 2009 is possible.

It won't be completely finished but it'll be mostly finished

Aren't there a good number of plots--say 20, 30 maybe 40 that are not yet accounted for? I suppose some of these could make way for greenspace, lanes or parking. I would say we still have till the end of 2006 or early 2007 for towers to be started on and finished by the end of 2009. It certainly seems feasible to finish the Marina by then. When you compare it to all the other major new tower develompments, the Marina is way ahead.

It is JLT that would worry me if I had invested there. When is the lake going to appear? They haven't even started digging for it it seems. I don't see how buildings completed in 2006 or 2007 will be ready to take occupants without the infrastructure in place. Perhaps in retrospect they consider it to have been a bad idea to finish the Marina canal before starting the buildings. It could be deliberate that they haven't dug out the JLT lake yet. Who knows?

the lake of the JLT is actually a puddle and you can clearly see the outlines.
it will be possible to finish it in 2009, i'd say even say it won't be to difficult.
Don't forget it will not take long until the lake is done, and they will fill it when almost all towers near completion to , and this is what was a mistake with the marina, avoid construction garbage, oil etc.

the remaining plots in the marina, which are more than 40, will mainly be built up, but i also expect it will not take longer than 2007 until all towers are approved.

the infrastructure, e.g the 2 new interchanges should be ready by 2007 at the latest.

Thanks Dubaiflo, that was just the kind of clarification I was looking for but afraid to ask for!

I have just learnt that the company that introduced me to MH, Dubai Luxury Homes, is now offering a wide range of Property Management, Letting and Furniture Packages.

I have always found DLH to be very professional and responsive. If anyone is interested, the web site is www.jgdubai.com

Cheers,

Craig

today

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Its like they've stopped work?

What?? And what's with the blue glass???

Looks great and there is progress I think!!

well if they do not have the glass panels they might focus on interior work.
i doubt april 2006 honestly...

hello everyone, I'm new to the forum

does anyone have any news on what they are going to do with the space on the left of the Al Marsa Tower (space 21 on the original Dubai Marina Map)?

I'm terrified at the idea they are going to build a tower there too wich would kill the sea view from the front of the building

Also it looks like the JASC (Jebel Ali Sailing Club) club in front of the Grosvenor House is going to be moved to the right of the marina (next to the small bridge) and a new hotel is going to be built there (next to Al Habtoor Grand Hotel). Does anyone know anything about this? how high would this hotel be?

thks a lot in advance

PS1
met Al Rafi yesterday and they are talking of May for completion of the building

PS2
I'll be here in dubai for one more week. I'll try to find out more info to share with the forum

may is reasonable. for the plot next to al marsa, next to the marina entrance:

this is infinity tower:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=257977


the plot behind al marsa, this is the torch:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=283299

welcome to the forum btw!

JASC is indeed moved but no idea what is going to be there, it is not part of the marina however, e.g does not belong to emaar.
a new hotel? well le meridien is said to expand again.

Hello,
I''m a bit lost around here, but I hope I'm in the right place and that perhaps you can help. Hubby and I are looking to move into 2 bed now! We love the Dubai Marina, the finished end and are looking at available apartments. Location is more important than view - although a full Marina view would be nice! Looking at Marina Heights, prices of available apartments seem reasonable compared to others and I'm wondering why?
Something to do with possible view obstructions ? Would the present car park be left as is do you think - or is that anyones guess?

I'm sorry if I'm repeating questions but I can't fine previous threads.

Love the forum, learnt more in the last couple of hours than the last 2 weeks trawling around with estate agents..

welcome to the forum.

Prices for marina heights will rise once it is completed, that is for sure.

but the marina view side is very likely to provide unobstructed marina views , i doubt anything will be built, and if, it won't be more than 20F i am sure.
so try to buy a high floor apt.

also the emaar phase 1 tower might be worth a look, great views and you can already have a look on the interiors.

Thanks for that, looking for a 2 bed, marina view,high floored apartment, preferably A type then!!! Want to buy quickly as I am here for another 2.5 weeks and I have free time and husband dosen't... By the Emaar phase 1 tower, do you mean one of the original 6? Anbar, Farooz, Mesk and can't remember the others at the moment. The view wouldn't be as important (although nice but I think too expensive) - saw a good one yesterday in Anbar but the view was of a playground and we've done that (kids at college)

Are there Dubai Marine Specialist Agents? The ones we've seen are more au fait with ArabianRanches etc.

Excuse the questions - but I'm on a mission!!!

Welcome Irishlass, I sent you a Personal message about this.

try goweathy.com they can offer you sth for sure.

Yes i am talking about the old emaar towers indeed.
they also offer great views.

Irishlass, I recommend Oryx Real Estate (oryxrealestate.com) - recently voted Best Agency in the UAE, Bentley Property Awards. Call Sue Stokes mobile 971 505 598294. Good luck.

By the way, I DONT work for them, they have just given me extremely good, friendly service, and I am happy to pass their name on.

I didn't like Oryx's advice - they said I should buy a villa and forget about an apartment as it would be more desirable. Turns out to have been rubbish and they just wanted to sell villas 'cos they had more and would get a better commission.

Buyer should always beware!

Need an advice!!!
any idea what a view from the 30 floor on the sea side would look like with the giant towers in the front, i am considering getting one there but a bit hesitant that i would endup with a view on the torch, and other towers there instead of a sea view which i am trying to get

Has anyone got any up to date information on Marina Heights Tower or any new photos, its all gone quite. Even some new pics of the marina and the area would be good to see.

Need an advice!!!
any idea what a view from the 30 floor on the sea side would look like with the giant towers in the front, i am considering getting one there but a bit hesitant that i would endup with a view on the torch, and other towers there instead of a sea view which i am trying to get


you wont see a lot, except maybe if you look right, along the maybe 70m wide street.
another possibility is between the torch and infinity and grosvenor , maybe 10degree angle.

Here are the sea views from the 12th floor.

http://www.marinaheightstower.net/view16.jpg

http://www.marinaheightstower.net/view17.jpg

http://www.marinaheightstower.net/view10.jpg

http://www.marinaheightstower.net/view12.jpg

http://www.marinaheightstower.net/view9.jpg

... the current sea view, the whole row in front will be built up, and the torch in front of course !!

correct - but there will always be some sea view because of the gaps between the towers and the wide road. Also looking to the left will give you a partial marina view.

Could also have a view of Aqua Moda (New Rodeo Drive) - if this end up being the location for the mall / street.

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When were those taken, doesnt look taht different than late december?

It's nice to see people in pictures for a change.

When were those taken, doesnt look taht different than late december?

I think I took those pictures on January 6th.

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Looks like they have had a delivery of the blue glass....Once again thanx for the pics, Altin!

Nice pics AltinD, Does it rain in Dubai too where did the sun go ? Some wet apartments somewhere

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=320956

check it ;)

Thanks flo, i was joking, rain is regarded as a mercy by muslims, but it is a little odd to see an update when it's raining.

8 hours of continuos rain in Dubai today - a record for Dubai never this much rain before in one go.

torch VS. marina heights any suggestiones, where would you buy and why???

Flo, thanks for the link to the 'rain' thread...interesting!

Thanks flo, i was joking, rain is regarded as a mercy by muslims, but it is a little odd to see an update when it's raining.

When it rains, traffic is very slow and sometime is full stop, time that can be used to photograph the nearby buildings with the camera phone.

"update":
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3204/dubaifebruari2006pics249medium.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6039/dubaifebruari2006pics253medium.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

any body selling 2 br facing the marina, let me know

Yes, i have several. its why i joined a this forum! :yes:

"DUBAI" didn't you promise to retire at the begining of the year! can't keep away ha :yes:

I was going to but they brigged me. it inspired me to right the wrongs.

tower looks almost comlete. but i stil dont like it thsat much. by far its not the worse. but that shape is just frustrating to look at.

you will not look at , you will look from :)


I was going to but they brigged me. it inspired me to right the wrongs.

tower looks almost comlete. but i stil dont like it thsat much. by far its not the worse. but that shape is just frustrating to look at.

Dubai let me know what you have , may be i can help yopu retire

It will be but a small speck on the horizon, from my burj dubai apt.

but seriously, there are to many angles. if they had curved them out, it wold have looked a lot nicer. imagine a huge curve ging up the spine!

Is the roof going to be glass? What will be between the wires?

25/02/2006

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The 2 sides of the podium:

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They look like apartments to me.

A "soon to dissapear" sea view.

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Another one

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^^ have to agree with DUBAI, the building is ok but not really great, i can't put my finger on it though.

nice photos though.

When it rains, traffic is very slow and sometime is full stop, time that can be used to photograph the nearby buildings with the camera phone.
:rofl:

CLASSIC altin :D

faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast
man, almost all windows installed

handover should be end of april then

Hideous.

just passing by juiced? :D

Yes, and I feel unimpressed by MH ;)

What's happening with the roof feature? It seems to have remained the same for weeks. :?

Looks like they were just waiting for a glass delivery - as soon as some arrived they nearly finished the windows in just 1 week!

Does anyone know what the 5 floors to the podium will contain? I thought apartments started on floor 7 and below this were the parking floors.

Hi people. Does anyone know when we might be able to get access to our apartments to check them over?

Worse than the residents.

Intense working going on on the roof feature. They have cover it with panels and there are alot of scafolding in place to either suport the structure or for building the vertical part of it (maybe for both)

Most of the glass panels are already put in place throughout the tower, so supplying of glass seams to not have been a problem.

^^ i think it was a problem which is solved now.
there were indeed some weeks where it seemed like they installed now glass panels at all.
anyway, thanks for update.

March 9

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Podium:
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Up close:
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The roof:
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surely what looks like air conditioning fans cannot be a permanent fixture in the podium.
They spoil the look of the build been in such a prominent position.
Anybody else got any comments on this.
By the way great pictures Krazy.
Any chance of getting any of the pool area?

great shots, the top 3 bdrs will have a great balcony, and a good view for two years or so :)

looks quite ok with the facade, also the roof is nice.
i think the fans could in fact remain.. not sure though.

Ok, joke going round town...

MH is gay....

does anyone know why?

I agree, cool pics -- can someone get some shots of the pool area, they would be great see or at least have a feel of what to expect.

surely what looks like air conditioning fans cannot be a permanent fixture in the podium.
They spoil the look of the build been in such a prominent position.
Anybody else got any comments on this.
By the way great pictures Krazy.
Any chance of getting any of the pool area?

The A/C on the podium aereas are there becouse those spaces are used as site offices and/or security personel rooms, therefore are temporary during the construction period.

There is no posibility to take picture of the pool aerea due to the elevation of the podium and lack of publicly accessible elevated places nearby.

Bar44?

btw where is the pool located on ground level?

Ok, joke going round town...

MH is gay....

does anyone know why?


because it is not straight at the top :rofl:

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now, who said it's one of the ulgy ones?

from update to update it gets better and better
wait till all of the curtain wall and windows have been installed
gonna be a stunner for sure!

i also don't think it is too bad. but not one of the best towers either 6/10.

nice photo altin.

I spoke to the developer and the handover of Marina Heights is estimated to be late May/early June and I suspect that might be optimistic.

19/03/2006

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Top half - 8/10
Bottom half - 5/10

Hi all, A fews months ago someone posted a contact address for what looked like a good company for rentals they also do furniture packages and a maintenance service for when the apartment was empty. Has anyone still got the details or web site, I did have it but cant find it now. By the way it wasnt wembly, Any help much appericated. Thanks.

Kevin

is anyone one this thread worried about the 60F being planned on the plot in front?

I love rumors spread like wild fire. There is no offical conformation on if it's 60F and from what was said it was going to be Max 60F.

All we can say for definate is that there will be buildings on 3 plots in front of the Torch and Marina Heights. If we leave it like that then i'm sure we will find out in the near future what is actually planned there.

Yeah, everyone should relax until there's some concrete news ... even if something will be built it'll be several years before it ever arrives. Am sure everyone could sell at a massive profit before then!

www.jgdubai.com/index.htm

Sorry it took a few days Kpage, my brother is currently using this firm, so as yet I am unable to give any feedback. Once he is done I was going to write up his experiences.

COOL

Has it occured to anyone that some people may not actually give a rat's arse as to what view they have from their windows/balconies?

I'm thinking of people (e.g families) who have come to Dubai for a week or fortnight's holiday who just want to explore Dubai, hit the beaches, eat out, etc and not just sit on their balconies all day drinking tea. These ppl will by far spend more time outside than inside their apartments admiring the view.

The views will only be important to long term rental tenants. (And agorophobic holiday makers!)

But one with a great view is important for advertising. I am going to be renting a Marina Apartment for my next Dubai holiday. When I browse the listing I always seem to prefer the adverts of ones with a stunning marina view. So great view = premium price or first in queue for renting when supply is greater than demand.

I thought I'd repost some of the images lost in previous locked threads...

a close up of the podium for those who have doubts if the AC units will stay or not
http://www.marinaheightstower.com/images/3_638x500.jpg

final design
http://www.marinaheightstower.com/images/2_354x500.jpg

Night shot (who thinks it's gonna look like this really?)
http://www.pamgolding.co.za/international/dubai/marinaheights/images/Night-Shot-red.jpg

You are right to an extent Steve, but I think its down to money. But you musn't forget, not everyone who is looking to holiday in Dubai can afford these premiums. I still reckon most ppl will base their decision first on price, then view. If you were saving a few hundred pounds for a week's stay in Dubai because your balcony didnt have a sea/marina view, would it really matter? If all you were doing was coming back to the apt. after a long day out and sleeping?

I agree with Naz - marina view will be crucial for some and not the be all and end all for others - never underestimate how people get turned on by saving a few £ - a lot boils down to different preferences and budgets.

I bought a marina facing in the Torch. Even if a supertall blocks my view – it could still be marketed to holiday makers as ‘Marina Facing’ (albeit with a supertall in the way). Anyway, I’m sure some of the marina could be viewed through gaps between any supertalls. All hypothetical just now anyway.

I personally think that the spec of the interiors of the apartments are as important if not more so than the views.

Probably right that the spec is as important. When looking at the photos of apartments for rent I dismiss the ones with ugly or uncomfortable furniture or tiles etc. DS could upgrade as compensation then if views are blocked like JBR did for being late.

I got an email today which relates to an article in Gulf News dated 15 march 06. Anybody know any more about this?

GULF NEWS - Dubai 15/03/06

In a landmark move, the Dubai Government yesterday issued a
long-awaited property law that legalises foreign ownership of properties in pre-designated areas in the emirate.

His Highness Shaikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai, yesterday issued Law No. 7 that legalises freehold ownership of land UAE and GCC citizens, while allowing the same rights to non-GCC expatriates to pre-designated areas that will be approved by the Ruler of Dubai.

Non-GCC expatriates will be given the right to acquire freehold and 99-year lease property, in areas designated by the Ruler.

any news here? when is the handover? any updates?

AlMillion where are you?

I heard from my solicitors yesterday that the handover date will now be end of June :(

This is being blamed on a 'contractor' - no idea which one.

Does anyone have an updated photo so we can see how the roof looks?

^^ Not much different from the last update, apart of some more scafolding.

BTW even June seams optimistic to me. They might start handing over some apartments on the lower floors, but I doubt the penthouses on top will be ready by then.

which is half a year delay again.

and indeed it is all up to the finishing touches and interior.

Personally I'd rather it be late and done right than rushed and ruined. Whether late June is realistic depends on their suppliers and the number of tradesmen they have!

AlMillion, did you get any further info from your contacts about whether or not anything will be built infront of Marina Heights on the car park?

I bought a 2 and 3 bed. I was in Dubai last week and I am going to try letting in the short term rental market but the agents tell me the 1/2 beds are easier to let short term. I am therefore putting my type 3A (marina/sea type) on the market at 2.35m net and if I sell flip it to buy 2 smaller units somewhere else. If anyone knows any interested buyer please let me know.

I have a one bed apartment at the Marina Heights Tower, its the Typa 1A (917sq.ft), Apartment No 1107---- Due to family circumstances I would like a two bed apartment so my question is --- Dose anyone out there have a 2 bed apartment they would like to exchange for my one bed. I know this is a long shot but I had to ask.