this is sort of like the thread in melbourne forums for what buildings we should get rid of, but also includes what we need since ive noticed good ideas popping up recently.

There have been suggestions of a Subway, Extra bridges, mention of the north bank development.. and other stuff.

I personally agree with all 3 of those. I also believe that someone needs to develop a list of what buildings are worth keeping (for their historical worth) and what buildings can be nocked down for new highrises.

Knock down Rail Centre 1, but preferably not while I'm there.

A decent town plan that provides certainty for developers would be nice!

I agree that a subway is the only realistic way to cope with future transport needs within the CBD and inner Brisbane areas. There is no more scope for surface transport without causing even more congestion.

Definitly a subway, and a few more river crossings, either bridge or tunnel.

Also a train line to Redcliffe.

What is Rail Centre 1? Is that the building partially over Central?

Sheraton is on top of Central, Rail center 1 is in same block but not really 'over' Central. It is on corner of Edward and Ann, Rail Center 2 is behind it (corner Edward and Turbot) and has that 'bridge' to the building on the other side of Turbot.

Higher land marks over some of the peripheral centres so that there visual recognition is increased. Briz very mono-central at the moment. Better bike network as North Shore City stats show 40% of crush hour traffic is education related, and Briz has good biking weather.

Brisbane has everything - you just have to know where to look.

jt

brisbane needs to employ me to design buildings! ;)

brisbane needs to employ me to design buildings! ;)

You can start by redesigning a few - Im sure we can give you a list.

Hey what a great Idea for a thead - redesigning buildings - do a 'gotham city' on..take your pick.

jt

hitachi needs a gotham city pulled on it

Hitachi could do with being painted the same colour as its add-on in Adelaide St, maybe with some red highlights to tie in the sign.
And I just noticed while driving past the city tonight that none of our buildings are all that well lit, or should I say interestingly lit.

Hitachi is getting too old and ugly i think. It really needs a makeover. And i am no fan of those.. Comcal (i have nfi, ive forgotten the names) buildings down near waterfront.

Theres a lot of buildings in brisbane that need to be made over, demolished, or hidden by large new buildings.

I noticed scaffolding going up on the T&G building. Maybe their gonna scrub it up a bit.

that would be very good lmao. It looks like it hasnt been cleaned... ever. I will maybe get a photo on wednesday

Personally I dont think brisbane has the population density to warrant a subway yet, it wouldnt be economically feasible. Though if it did have a subway it would have to be limited to the inner city areas like wollongabba, kangaroo point, new farm, paddington, westend etc. What I did notice though when I lived in the Paddington/ Bardon/ Red hill/KG area is that there is no major shopping area or cinema complex. You'd either have to go into town or drive to somewhere like Indooropilly or Michelton to have a decent selection of shops. Not that im for the idea of some big box shopping complex here. But i think it has the potential for some out door boulevard style shopping hub. What does anyone esle think?

Personally I dont think brisbane has the population density to warrant a subway yet, it wouldnt be economically feasible. Though if it did have a subway it would have to be limited to the inner city areas like wollongabba, kangaroo point, new farm, paddington, westend etc. What I did notice though when I lived in the Paddington/ Bardon/ Red hill/KG area is that there is no major shopping area or cinema complex. You'd either have to go into town or drive to somewhere like Indooropilly or Michelton to have a decent selection of shops. Not that im for the idea of some big box shopping complex here. But i think it has the potential for some out door boulevard style shopping hub. What does anyone esle think?

The best place I think for a subway in Brisbane would be in a line from Bulimba to Indooroopilly taking in Tenneriffe, New Farm, Kangaroo Point, CBD, Southbank, West End and St Lucia. These are the most densly populated suburbs but they are also serviced by river transport.

jt

JayT, I think you killed your own suggestion. Those areas already have the City Cat, and no one is going to put a subway in that puts that out of business. What's the point when you already have good fast transport in those areas?

I would prefer an extra train line, underground where it has to be, crossing the city from NW to SE, Ashgrove, Red Hill, Spring Hill, Central, a new underground city station near Elizabeth St, Wooloongabba, Stones Corner, Holland Park, Mt Gravatt.

I would prefer an extra train line, underground where it has to be, crossing the city from NW to SE, Ashgrove, Red Hill, Spring Hill, Central, a new underground city station near Elizabeth St, Wooloongabba, Stones Corner, Holland Park, Mt Gravatt.

That would be my #1 rail line wish. Of course it competes with the Busway from Woolongabba - Mt Gravatt... :( But it should be faster, will be something to think of when the busway gets congsted.

I'd like to see the above, but extended through Springwood / Loganholme - Joining the existing line at Beenleigh. You might be able to make the Brisbane - Gold Coast run more comfortable / faster in the process.

I did once see a proposal within the railway for a tunnel about as far as Zillmere to somewhere near Salisbury. It would have been the spine for improved services from Sunshine and Gold Coast, and obviously some new urban services. In the inner city it would go through Wooloongabba, QUT, Queens St Mall, Central and Spring Hill.

One way or the other we will need a new rail tunnel in the city area for sure within maybe 20 years if we want to continue any growth at all for rail passengers into the city. And tunnelling is becoming cheaper and cheaper all the time so what may not have been economically feasible in the past could be standard practice in the future.

The rail tunnel option should of stayed with the North~South Tunnel, Brisbane does need a city loop rail network.

As for things that have to go, Mineral House, Transit Centre.
Refurb - Lennons, Parliamentary annexe, Govt Ctr etc.

More road signs!!!

I am sick to death of hearing how southern tourists and visitors get lost here. Perhaps if they could find their way around a little better this city would have a better reputation.

I worked in the valley for about a year and every day I had tourist come into my shop and ask me for directions to this and that. Ever try explaining to a southern tourist or visitor how to drive 3 km from Fortitude Valley to Southbank in peak hour - its horrendous!!

jt

As for things that have to go, Mineral House, Transit Centre.
Refurb - Lennons, Parliamentary annexe, Govt Ctr etc.

Why would you want to lose the Transit Centre, I thought it was a great success, mixing a bus terminal with the main railway station. I know a lot of foreign visitors are impressed with it.

Why would you want to lose the Transit Centre, I thought it was a great success, mixing a bus terminal with the main railway station. I know a lot of foreign visitors are impressed with it.

Actually that is true. In other capitals all the bus companies have their depots in different locations around the city. The transit center is all in one place with rail and easy access to the airport. It is like having a domestic airport in the CBD

jt

of course without the planes

of course without the planes

Yeah- course. But it does have that airportish kind of feel to it. You know with all the announcments, destinations, ticket counters and other airportish stuff.

jt

how does underground transport infastructure work.

like how deep is he road tunnel? how deep would the subway be? how deep do building foundations go?

Must be some good planning to keep things from hitting other things.

On the London Underground there are 2 types of tunnels, the cut and cover method and deep underground tubes.

Cut and Cover involved basically closing off streets and knocking down slums to dig a trench that became the tube line. A cover was built over the line and the streets rebuilt. These are only a few metres deep.

Deep level tubes started to be built in the late 1880's, and they range from about 20 to 60 metres underground.

There is a lot of planning involved to avoid building foundations, sewers and underground rivers. Anyone who has travelled on the tube in London will know that it rarely follows a straight line and there are all sorts of turns.

The Cavern Club in Liverpool, the main club that made the Beatles famous was demolished in 1973 to make way for the new Liverpool underground system. The club has since been rebuilt in a slightly different shape to make way for the tracks and you can hear passing trains go by when you are in there.

The Transit centre is good in concept, but the buildings are now ugly. The bus terminal should be under the rail station, with a shopping precint linking to Roma Street Parklands. The office and hotel towers on top should be sleek and modern.

I noticed scaffolding going up on the T&G building. Maybe their gonna scrub it up a bit.

pic from today:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Blend/TG.jpg