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SydneyDude
July 30th, 2003, 10:33 AM
oooooh! aaaaahhhhhhhh! :D

Muse
July 30th, 2003, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by SydneyDude
oooooh! aaaaahhhhhhhh! :D
Indeed, oooooh! aaaaahhhhhhhh! :D

Fabian
July 30th, 2003, 10:29 PM
Good to see the corebox up and running and preparing to begin it's rapid assent to the top.

Muse
July 31st, 2003, 04:46 AM
Now let's see how the Grocon-Lubeca jump-form system goes into practice with this one :eek: !!

CULWULLA
July 31st, 2003, 06:45 AM
today

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/07/207294.jpg

Noonos
August 1st, 2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by CULWULLA
today

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/07/207294.jpg

looks like a core pour

then again, they could be filling it up for the first time

which technically,

i suppose...is a core pour!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Muse
August 1st, 2003, 02:46 PM
Even though the Gorcon labelled core box was set into place earlier this week, the red arm atop will still be making the necessary adjustments.

Hopefully we will see the first core rise (thanks to the patented Grocon-Lubeca jump-form system) within the next 2 weeks. Fingers crossed on this one:

________http://www.tricityreview.com/cards/crossfingers.jpg

finn
August 1st, 2003, 03:05 PM
This tower is gonna rocket up! It's due for completion in less than a year now (mid-2004), so expect to see very fast progress now that the ball has started rolling on the cour pours!

Also, there was an article recently mentioning another newly signed legal tenant for the tower, and several others in negotiation so its now about 25% committed (6 floors out of 24).

CULWULLA
August 14th, 2003, 01:23 PM
view from Pitt st today.
i read in a recent construction mag that when Civic towers concrete is cured at base of tower, the steel support girders will be removed!! there just there now to support tower base. weird shit!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/08/210828.jpg

climbing_crane
August 14th, 2003, 01:46 PM
Wow. Reminds me of something they did when building the bridge. They drove supports right into the ground at either end to stabilise it before they it was connected at the top. Still there to this day even though they no longer serve any purpose.

Fabian
August 14th, 2003, 02:48 PM
Any rise in the core as yet or the floorplates?

climbing_crane
August 16th, 2003, 12:45 PM
Does this answer your question?


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid74/p3d6f5c1c1269e7f74234ffe2e5d1e600/fb6027c1.jpg

Fabian
August 16th, 2003, 01:25 PM
Did you go across the road or into the carpark?

climbing_crane
August 16th, 2003, 02:06 PM
Just underneath on the road. I have trouble lining up a straight shot when I'm directly underneath a building.

Muse
August 16th, 2003, 10:31 PM
It's a bit hard to tell at the moment. Sure work is progressing but to see actual floor plates is a wee bit difficult due to the amount of green mesh and timber around the perimeter.

Also no significant core rise as yet........

It's hard to imagine those huge steel beams being removed. They look as if they're part of the permanent structure and will act as load bearers.

Steve World Tower
August 19th, 2003, 07:35 AM
Who would have thought it would get to Ausgust and still there is no floor rise on this one.

Trances
August 20th, 2003, 11:42 AM
Think I Caught the crane from Central Station when I was walking pass the trams.

http://athene.riv.csu.edu.au/~towers02/ForSkyScrapersCityPage/Cranes/ResizeDSC03144.JPG

Fabian
August 20th, 2003, 10:16 PM
Thats the crane!!!

Muse
August 20th, 2003, 11:45 PM
CORE RISE!! - structure now looks taller than the neghbouring Ibis Hotel.

Fabian
August 21st, 2003, 06:54 AM
Were now off the mark. Time to watch this tower rise and see if it can beat Latitude to the finish line.

Muse
August 24th, 2003, 12:17 AM
Wow, saw Civic from the bus yesterday and the core box is certainly & noticeably higher than the Ibis Hotel - it's rising as we speak!! Can't get to the site until Wednesday with camera though :(

Muse
August 28th, 2003, 01:24 AM
Civic Tower's Construction pics taken @ tighlight from atop the Goulbourn Street carpark yesterday Wednesday 27.08.03 - floodlit and showing construction crane.

________http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower4-med.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower5-med.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower6_1-med.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower7-med.jpg

Fabian
August 28th, 2003, 05:16 AM
I'm so surprised to see the tower going up, this soon and that quick.

CULWULLA
August 28th, 2003, 01:39 PM
pic from today. looking good. you can see them thru scaffolding.
2 floors have been poured with 3rd one ready to go.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126masonicaug28_2003.jpg

finn
August 28th, 2003, 03:08 PM
Those pics look great muse and Cul!

I love how your pics show the cranes on World Tower and Latitude at the back muse - the rapidly changing southern CBD is just incredible!

Very cool how you can make out the windows through the scaffolding on your pic Cul!

:okay:

Trances
August 28th, 2003, 04:01 PM
Looked great tonight made an effort to walk from central just to see it

Fabian
August 28th, 2003, 10:02 PM
They will clad the tower granite, just like the base of the complex?

Muse
August 29th, 2003, 03:54 AM
To our understanding Fabian, it will be either a polished/treated concrete or painted - no cladding at this stage. BTW The Masonic Centre base is painted.

Pics also taken yesterday during the day.....

From Goulburn St:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower8-med.jpg

____http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower9-med.jpg

Pic taken opposite North Apartments:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower10-med.jpg

...and 2 pics taken from atop the Goulburn Street carpark:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower11-med.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower12-med.jpg

Noonos
August 29th, 2003, 10:08 AM
whats that white corugated iron lookig stuff around the floor plates?

climbing_crane
August 29th, 2003, 12:39 PM
Not sure what they are.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid76/pf046c4fafc974ae2a8d107773e4958b7/fb4198c3.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid76/p738bb1de599e161b4b641031df038426/fb41909e.jpg


Picture 2 gives a good idea of it's height in relation to IBIS.

Fabian
August 29th, 2003, 12:46 PM
What floor in Sydney Plaza was that taken from?

Muse
August 29th, 2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Fabian
What floor in Sydney Plaza was that taken from? :? Are you sure Fabian with the above quote you are in the correct thread? ....and who or what are you reffering to?

BTW On my trip downtown today I noticed that the white material covering the rising floor plates now surround all 4 sides of Civic Tower, partially seen in climbing-crane's post on the previous page of this thread :okay:.

Might call in either tomorrow or Monday to ask the project manager of Civic what the white material is.

Fabian
August 29th, 2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by museumb
:? Are you sure Fabian with the above quote you are in the correct thread? ....and who or what are you reffering to?

BTW On my trip downtown today I noticed that the white material covering the rising floor plates now surround all 4 sides of Civic Tower, partially seen in climbing-crane's post on the previous page of this thread :okay:.

Might call in either tomorrow or Monday to ask the project manager of Civic what the white material is.

This was the office tower climbing_crane went up wasn't it?

Muse
August 30th, 2003, 01:49 AM
Seems like it was Fabian :okay:

climbing_crane
August 30th, 2003, 11:26 AM
On SS.com it was called 69 Goulburn Street. It was grey and smooth that is all I know.

climbing_crane
August 30th, 2003, 01:38 PM
My cheap-ass digital camera ($450) gives out quite alot of detail. Nice wispy clouds and that guy walking in front just seems to make the picture real life in image 1.





http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid77/p8a03796ad9b2b9c4a3a711f426a7ba35/fb3d2d80.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid77/p6f038bd4b7712285542edbf0f6812004/fb3d2d31.jpg


Image 2 is from that structure that some nitwits think will collapse. As if.. Paranoid wankers.

Fabian
August 30th, 2003, 11:33 PM
Does anyone know how many levels have been done so far?

CULWULLA
August 31st, 2003, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by Fabian
Does anyone know how many levels have been done so far?
The tower is currently 3 levels high + the core which is probably 2 floors. so 5 altogether. The tower will eventually consist of 24 levels with large plant (equal to 2 levels).

CULWULLA
September 2nd, 2003, 05:54 AM
pic from George st today. should look good this time next year.

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/09/215324.jpg

Fabian
September 2nd, 2003, 07:52 AM
It's going to be all done before you know it. This tower actually hasn't got all that far to rise in real terms.

Fabian
September 7th, 2003, 10:41 PM
I had a look on Saturday and nothing new has since happened.

Trances
September 11th, 2003, 05:10 PM
i have not been there for over 2 weeks and today whenI was in sydney looked different. Also thinking about the view of world tower that will be lsot from teh street corner of mandarin center if east goes ahead :(

Bulwara
September 13th, 2003, 07:49 AM
pics from today

three levels can now be seen

http://images4.fotki.com/v39/photos/2/22045/307766/176masonic-vi.jpg

http://images4.fotki.com/v38/photos/2/22045/307766/177masonic-vi.jpg

Fabian
September 13th, 2003, 11:55 AM
I hope the core is begining to separate itself from the floorplates and in true Grocon style, reach the top in no time.

CULWULLA
September 17th, 2003, 06:29 AM
updated view from Museum Towers today! really progressing!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/09/218460.jpg

Muse
September 17th, 2003, 06:47 AM
I love those top views from Museum Tower of this develpoment CULWULLA :okay:

Originally posted by Fabian
I hope the core is begining to separate itself from the floorplates and in true Grocon style, reach the top in no time. I think besides the structural engineering logisitcs that had seen a relatively slow start to this one rising, there have also been logistics in material delivery to overcome for the site. I was watching a crane last night hoist up huge metal rods from Goulburn Street with traffic being diverted around the huge delivery vehicle.

There is no real site available for the huge parts to be stored.

BTW I was reading that the huge maroon rods are going to be removed once the concrete has cured for the diagonal transfer structure. If only I could remember where I read it ;)

Fabian
September 17th, 2003, 07:48 AM
Culwulla, has there been a core rise or rise in the floorplates in recent days?

CULWULLA
September 17th, 2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Fabian
Culwulla, has there been a core rise or rise in the floorplates in recent days?
yeah, its now a floor or so above nearby ibis hotel.

climbing_crane
September 19th, 2003, 07:58 AM
Was looking good when I passed it today. It's hard to remember what it used to look like. Actually how are the lifts going to go up from ground level??? Are they going to rip off Masonics roof?? Where would they get the room to put in all the lifts. Has anyone considered this?

Fabian
September 19th, 2003, 10:43 AM
I'm sure that was taken into consideration when the architects designed the tower back in the early 70's. The layout of the Masonic Centre in turn won't be changed as a result.

CULWULLA
September 23rd, 2003, 05:34 AM
pix from today!

as you can see the floor levels are now up to 5 but the floor slabs are at 3. very unusual method! like a shell forming.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126civicclosesept23.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126civicfargeorge-med.jpg


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126civicgoulburnsep23-med.jpg

Fabian
September 23rd, 2003, 09:21 AM
Reminds me of how American scrapers are built that is frames first.

Sky High
September 23rd, 2003, 12:27 PM
The perimeter system is a jump form system just like the core is. It hydraulically lifts off the prior pours. Imagine the number of column forms you would need let alone the time required to align and plumb the columns if they ha to be done individually. 86 columns per floor all aligned and setoff from the previous level. Sounds logical ah.

Muse
September 23rd, 2003, 04:31 PM
Official name (and patented) is the Grocon-Lubeca Jump Form System.

CULWULLA
September 29th, 2003, 08:01 AM
view from lev74 of WT today!!w oohhoo!!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126civicfrom74.jpg

climbing_crane
September 29th, 2003, 08:32 AM
Are you sure you were on Lvl 74?? Doesn't look that high. Maybe level 50.

pikey
September 29th, 2003, 08:37 AM
Jaysus this thing is getting big - I gotta pay more attention to these projects!!
Standing under it before the core had even been formed back in May, it was an impressive structure. Man I cannot wait to get back to Sydney!! This is purely office isn't it?

Fabian
September 29th, 2003, 10:29 AM
Impressive aerial. It's making good progress now with the tower begining to rise much faster.

CULWULLA
September 29th, 2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by climbing_crane
Are you sure you were on Lvl 74?? Doesn't look that high. Maybe level 50.

level74 or 64 above street or 200m!
i also zoomed in a bit.

Fabian
September 29th, 2003, 10:19 PM
With flooring at the Civic Centre, will the first office floor be level five as the the floors at the base go up to 4.

CULWULLA
September 30th, 2003, 12:59 AM
heres a pic i posted back a few pages!! its good to scroll back sometimes!!!!!!!

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files/transfer/6/2003/02/182753.jpg

not sure how numbering will be.looks like the first office floor will be level 5!

rondeez
September 30th, 2003, 03:15 AM
nice pics guys.. keep em coming!

if they painted this tower dark black it would almost look like a mini world trade centre!

CULWULLA
September 30th, 2003, 04:22 AM
found out what civic tower will look like!! "just kidding!!!

http://www.geocities.com/janse701/bon013.txt

Muse
October 1st, 2003, 12:40 AM
LOL you nut! That was totally unexpected. Truly, lol.

With the real Civic Tower, they have started to fit the long glass in for the windows. This one is going to look smashing!!

CULWULLA
October 1st, 2003, 05:53 AM
yeah the glass is being put in along with the polished facade! looks brilliant!

pix from today-

https://www.emporis.com/files_transfer/6/2003/10/221135.jpg

i love the dark glass contrast with smooth concrete finish!


https://www.emporis.com/files_transfer/6/2003/10/221131.jpg


https://www.emporis.com/files_transfer/6/2003/10/221133.jpg

Fabian
October 1st, 2003, 08:10 AM
Thank goodness it won't look anything like that. I'd be in jail like this one

http://www.geocities.com/janse701/bon013.txt

And the base is definately being cladded white too as shown in the renders?

Fabian
October 2nd, 2003, 08:34 AM
Civic Tower today

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid82/p576f7c68af5e2d85dd3a6a8c708b2039/faeef238.jpg

Windows

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid82/p539c062a764d0af352e7bd49a44ed95a/faeef235.jpg

Steve World Tower
October 7th, 2003, 03:14 AM
museumb

Look at how slow this is going. When I complained how slow it was going a few months you said I was wrong but noone can deny the slowness of it now.

Fabian
October 7th, 2003, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by Steve World Tower
museumb

Look at how slow this is going. When I complained how slow it was going a few months you said I was wrong but noone can deny the slowness of it now.

Contradicting yourself there?:?

Sydguy1
October 7th, 2003, 03:22 AM
Just have some patience steve world tower,stop worrying about the speed of contruction,be like me and be impatient about towers that have tenants yet.
eg john boyd and mid city centre;)

Sydguy1
October 7th, 2003, 03:23 AM
I ment that don't have tenants:D

Steve World Tower
October 7th, 2003, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by Sydguy1
Just have some patience steve world tower,stop worrying about the speed of contruction,be like me and be impatient about towers that have tenants yet.
eg john boyd and mid city centre;)

I didn't contradict myself it is the slowest construction site in Sydney. In regards to john boyd and mid city centre, they will have to wait about 10 more years.

Sydguy1
October 7th, 2003, 04:08 AM
You a true pessimist Steve world tower
:D

CULWULLA
October 7th, 2003, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by Steve World Tower
I didn't contradict myself it is the slowest construction site in Sydney. In regards to john boyd and mid city centre, they will have to wait about 10 more years.
ive got some contacts who say both of these projects will start 2004.

Sydguy1
October 7th, 2003, 07:01 AM
Culwulla are those just estimated starts or do those contacts know about secret tenants that have signed up;)

CULWULLA
October 7th, 2003, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by Sydguy1
Culwulla are those just estimated starts or do those contacts know about secret tenants that have signed up;)
i dont anything "secretive" just been talking to JBoyd properties last month + quick chat to planners. we will have to see?

Muse
October 10th, 2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by CULWULLA
view from Pitt st today.
i read in a recent construction mag that when Civic towers concrete is cured at base of tower, the steel support girders will be removed!! there just there now to support tower base. weird shit!No, no. You must have been dreaming CULWULLA as on calling into the Civic Tower site yesterday, I spoke to the project managers and they told me emphatically that the steel beams will not be removed.

They will remain and eventually be covered by the shaped concrete.

A few other things the site mangers informed me about.

1) There are now 2 x the Grocon-Lubeca jump-form systems being used on Civic Tower, which means...

2)...of course the tower will rise faster externally, with the floor plates following close behind, therefore...

3)...Grocon expects the tower at this stage to top out by (anticipated), Feb./March 2004.

4) Of course it will take longer to finish the internal fittings of the tower.

5) They are expecting at this stage the first tenant to move in by July '04 - i.e. the D.P.P., Department of Public Prosecutions, taking the lower 5 levels of Civic Tower.

fro
October 11th, 2003, 12:02 AM
Well done Muse! thanks for the information. I can't wait to until it tops out in Feb?March next year! Man that's quick!

Muse
October 11th, 2003, 12:52 AM
Thanks fro :) - quick indeed!

At least that's what the project people @ Civic Tower told me in regard to Civic Tower topping out by Feb/March next year.

Now that they have 2 x the Grocon-Lubeca jump-form systems now on site, this may well be of course possible.

Only time will tell, indeed :okay:

CULWULLA
October 11th, 2003, 02:43 AM
thanks for the update muse. thats weird how i read that the steel beams were only temporary? and i cant even find article that states this, anyway maybe the journo that wrote it was confused with the beams being hidden and encased in concrete which looks like there gone? lol
anyway:D

CULWULLA
October 14th, 2003, 05:49 AM
today!

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/10/223684.jpg

Trances
October 14th, 2003, 07:45 AM
Love the two towers with work on them
Has it been entered in the new photo com ?
Chose the right angle and time of day and you may ahve a winner

Fabian
October 14th, 2003, 07:48 AM
One third of the way up already;)

Muse
October 14th, 2003, 04:01 PM
Exactly Fabian. Civic Tower is virtually up to level 8.

The total net lettable area will be 23,160 sq m.

I was surprised to find out that Peddle Thorpe Walker (Aust) are the actual achitectural designers of the new and improved Civic Tower. P.T.W. tend to do pretty good quality work.

CULWULLA
October 15th, 2003, 12:34 AM
6 floors have been poured with the 7th being constructed. the core is one or two above this.

climbing_crane
October 15th, 2003, 11:21 AM
With that huge core box enclosing the whole building it wouldn't be at all scary working up there. You wouldn't know if you were 1 or 100 metres high.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p896096fc9c6ee5fea4ff2e1a3364eb0e/fad1ed80.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p37cf6bcd8a751c3484a343e31ae39130/fad1ed55.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid83/p59abff410defbd7b70a3d5d55f045084/fad1eb85.jpg

climbing_crane
October 15th, 2003, 12:03 PM
Not a comparison shot cause I aint comparing it to anything. This was when it was a cheeseburger, now it's a double big mac.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid77/p6f038bd4b7712285542edbf0f6812004/fb3d2d31.jpg

flyin_higher
October 16th, 2003, 10:42 AM
This is certainly going to be one interesting looking tower!;)

spazpecker
October 17th, 2003, 10:12 AM
Had a good look at Civic this afternoon. The scaffolding has been fully removed from the bottom 4 floors.
I was very pleasantly surprised to note that the pitch black dark glazing is looking fantastic against the white walls of the tower. The black glass is a winner and MUCH BETTER than brown / clear or tinted grey glass which was what I thought might go up.
I'm pretty happy with this tower. I had feared that it would be a waste of 135 metres !

climbing_crane
October 18th, 2003, 12:28 PM
I love it. And this image would have to be my favorite of all my Civic pics. Combination of things really. Twilight, the sparkling lights, lotsa cranes and 3 remarkable buildings.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid84/p5099c31f45cfbad2983529a7486b8bb2/facbbe5e.jpg

Fabian
October 18th, 2003, 11:47 PM
I agree, twilight shots are the best, where you get twinkling lights amongst the dimming sky, but the best construction photo's come during the day as sites are not well lit at night.

In this case though, the lights inside Civic give us that impression that people have already begun occupying the building.

CULWULLA
October 19th, 2003, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by spazpecker
Had a good look at Civic this afternoon. The scaffolding has been fully removed from the bottom 4 floors.
I was very pleasantly surprised to note that the pitch black dark glazing is looking fantastic against the white walls of the tower. The black glass is a winner and MUCH BETTER than brown / clear or tinted grey glass which was what I thought might go up.
I'm pretty happy with this tower. I had feared that it would be a waste of 135 metres !
I agree. the black glass against the "polished cement light/grey" is unreal! i knew this one wouldnt disappoint!

Fabian
October 19th, 2003, 02:04 PM
I like the black glass for the fact it gives the tower a modern look to it.

Muse
October 20th, 2003, 01:07 AM
I forgot to mention before that another reason the developers want to build this little chick-a-dee relatively quickly is that they are paying the council a lllllllot of $$$s for the use of the footpath and road areas surrounding the base during construction.

That is also incentive.

In other words, if the truth be known, they are helping to pay CULWULLA'S outrageous 'n exorbitant wages ;)

CULWULLA
October 21st, 2003, 05:42 AM
today-

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/10/225338.jpg

Fabian
October 21st, 2003, 07:08 AM
Gone up another level guys;)

Muse
October 21st, 2003, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by Muse
I forgot to mention before that another reason the developers want to build this mid-sized chick-a-dee relatively quickly is that they are paying the council a lllllllot of $$$s for the use of the footpath and road areas surrounding the base during construction.

This is also another incentive for Civic Tower to top out by March/April 2004.

Aussie Steve
October 22nd, 2003, 05:50 AM
WOW

Now you can realy see how this tower is going to look. Very true to its original design and that is great. I'll get to see it up close in a few weeks time when i'm up in Sydney.

Muse
October 24th, 2003, 12:34 AM
2 pics of Civic Tower's constsruction that I took yesterday. Now up to level 9 externally. Floor plates to follow suit. Certainly at this rate it should at least top out by March/April 2004 at the very, very latest.

First pic from the cnr of of Pitt and Goulburn Streets:

__________http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower13.jpg

...and from atop of the Goulburn Street carpark:

_________________http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower14.jpg

Fabian
October 24th, 2003, 10:14 AM
Bye Bye World Tower!!! - this goes to show you don't have total control over Goulburn St!!!

Muse
October 24th, 2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Fabian
Bye Bye World Tower!!! - this goes to show you don't have total control over Goulburn St!!! Rather over George and Liverpool Streets, more to the point.

Muse
November 1st, 2003, 09:53 PM
The guys were working after 5.30PM (Sat). They really want to finish this one ASAP.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower15.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower16.jpg

Fabian
November 1st, 2003, 10:57 PM
Message to workers: Enjoy the weekend. Monday to Friday is when you keep us entertained with your antics.

But could this work have to do with their RDO being the first Monday of the month?

Muse
November 1st, 2003, 11:32 PM
Well it may well be. However no other sites around had folk working on them at that time (I saw a security guy @ the BT site :) ).

The fact is that the developers are paying the council thousands in rent for the use of the footpath and it would certainly work out cheaper in the long run to pay these guys overtime.

Fabian
November 1st, 2003, 11:53 PM
That area fenced off will eventually be glassed in if I'am right as part of the development.

Muse
November 1st, 2003, 11:56 PM
Yes, only part.

flyin_higher
November 2nd, 2003, 02:50 AM
Yes, this ones quite a quciky

zulu69
November 2nd, 2003, 08:14 AM
Honestly this part of the city is really really becoming dense and full of height. Its amazing just how far the city spreads now with the height of the buildings. Its amazing when i go to my spainish lesson and see the buildings all there and the ones being built. a couple mopre world tower business buildings would go nicely..but thats a no brainer. I wonder though if a building over on the world tower side could be built like 260m roof top. From the skyline perspective it would look fine cause of the dip at that part of the city and a wedding cake top like NY would help with the sun access planes...

CULWULLA
November 3rd, 2003, 04:43 AM
looks impressive now from street level!

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/11/227783.jpg

vista from george st.

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/11/227785.jpg

Fabian
November 3rd, 2003, 05:08 AM
I think were halfway up now and that took only two/three months and it has really begun impacting on the Goulburn St skyline.

CULWULLA
November 3rd, 2003, 05:28 AM
ive got an elevation here in front of me and seeing that the core scaffold is currently at levl10 above podium , this would make it-
69.98m above ground!
So its 53% its height!!

Muse
November 3rd, 2003, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by Fabian
I think were halfway up now and that took only two/three months and it has really begun impacting on the Goulburn St skyline. No where near half way by no means, even if you're including the Masonic Centre's base.

However, it is certainly already impacting on the Goulburn Street skyline, without a doubt, in agreencance with you Fabian. By the time it tops out by March, April 2004 at the latest, it will indeed have a signifcant impact on the eastern side of the Goulburn Street skyline. :okay:

Fabian
November 3rd, 2003, 06:15 AM
This is how I came up with the halfway theory

7 floors are exposed, 3 in the green mesh and two in the "core box"

I did not include the base.

CULWULLA
November 3rd, 2003, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by Muse
No where near half way by no means, even if you're including the Masonic Centre's base.

However, it is certainly already impacting on the Goulburn Street skyline, without a doubt, in agreencance with you Fabian. By the time it tops out by March, April 2004 at the latest, it will indeed have a signifcant impact on the eastern side of the Goulburn Street skyline. :okay:
Its 70m above ground to top of floor plate hoarding, thus little over halfway to 132m.
it might be an illusion-? the underside of tower is 33m so its already up pretty high!

spazpecker
November 3rd, 2003, 07:23 AM
I've got a family sized humble pie heating up in the microwave oven ready to be served to those who said it would be a "1970's peice of shit". I must admit I wasn't a huge fan of this until now so I might have to eat a small slice with a dollop of cream........ ;)

Muse
November 3rd, 2003, 07:44 AM
Eat that humble pie spazpecker with a small dollop of cream with gussto!! Civic Tower will prove to be great in the medium to longer term, without a doubt.

Being an new millenium design of Peddle Thorpe Walker (Aust), it will only prove to be a great design, once again, without a doubt. :)

finn
November 3rd, 2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by spazpecker
I've got a family sized humble pie heating up in the microwave oven ready to be served to those who said it would be a "1970's peice of shit". I must admit I wasn't a huge fan of this until now so I might have to eat a small slice with a dollop of cream........ ;)

Who wants pie heated up in a microwave! It makes it all soggy! ;)

I've always been a fan of this tower being built...admittedly for a bit more height on that block more than anything - but now I get to be excited because it looks good too! Turning out a very retro-cool addition to the Southern CBD! :D

Fabian
November 3rd, 2003, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by spazpecker
I've got a family sized humble pie heating up in the microwave oven ready to be served to those who said it would be a "1970's peice of shit". I must admit I wasn't a huge fan of this until now so I might have to eat a small slice with a dollop of cream........ ;)

How about cooking up some custardpies and slamming them in their faces. I'd do justice for their comments.

Trances
November 4th, 2003, 04:55 AM
Reading back this tower has had some critics, but that’s all died down as development goes on, Till now its just about all positive.

Muse
November 7th, 2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Fabian
That area fenced off will eventually be glassed in if I'am right as part of the development. As you can see, the hordings extend way past what will be the glassed-off area for the cafe/s:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower18.jpg

..and from the Goulburn Street carpark rooftop:

______http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civictower17.jpg

Fabian
November 7th, 2003, 10:57 AM
I can confirm that

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid29/pb91345e09de17998e4e0c907d1be8b66/fd595271.jpg

climbing_crane
November 7th, 2003, 11:28 AM
Stupid question but I wonder why they didn't centre the tower instead of placing it on one side.

CULWULLA
November 7th, 2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by climbing_crane
Stupid question but I wonder why they didn't centre the tower instead of placing it on one side.
no its not a stupid question, lots of people ask me this. from what i can gather the lift core is located away from the centre due to the fact that the masonic hall is situated here! thats the whole reason for the podium!
the model pic shows you the entrance from Goulburn st at its most western point.

Fabian
November 7th, 2003, 11:58 AM
You wouldn't want a lift core running through the middle of the grand hall??? wouldn't you?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/p2b0957987294fbf81babaa41bf6e6768/fbe7e033.jpg

I really like the lounge style seating. It made me and my peers comfortable while listening to some economics lectures (including how the RBA determines interest rates like wednesday) and can send people to sleep.

Having that disappear would be a tragedy. The interior of the complex is quite unique as well sending you on a timewarp back to the 1970's

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/p041480bbf76b5c22926d9cda45f5db86/fbe7e03d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/p301df22f587d2b92706be4af2f2519ba/fbe7e050.jpg

A great place to have our next Sydney meet - all we need is some champagne, food and music to bring the place to life

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/pcb1147d6c953738737e20d1107a82444/fbe7e042.jpg

Trances
November 7th, 2003, 03:32 PM
Nope good photos there
your some times blured style but still give a good idea
Another foyer I say I have to see but never get around to it

Vitriol
November 7th, 2003, 05:38 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid29/pb91345e09de17998e4e0c907d1be8b66/fd595271.jpg

Why does the grey model look like it's about to tip over?

Trances
November 7th, 2003, 06:00 PM
Taken By Fab ?
is that a good enough answer

Fabian
November 7th, 2003, 10:15 PM
I can assure you that Culwulla must of used some very strong glue to keep it together.

climbing_crane
November 8th, 2003, 01:01 PM
Now I know why they didn't centre it. But now another silly question arises in my mind. How can the south-western side of the Masonic Centre not collapse. I'd imagine there is a shitload more weight on this side.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p8973b0ecab744ef404b3da662e92571a/fa9de392.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p6751e4dfec71058fbaaa3cbcc9442fee/fa9ddfe2.jpg

CULWULLA
November 8th, 2003, 03:35 PM
its an illusion!! the weight of the tower actually is levered from the core, which goes thru the podium to below ground!
the tower doesnt rest on podium at all!
again great pix cc!

Fabian
November 8th, 2003, 10:57 PM
There's nothing to worry about. I mean the council wouldn't approve it if they had structural concerns over it.

Muse
November 9th, 2003, 12:55 PM
There is one structural concern on site that not many know about and it's deep, deep underground.

The reinforced rubber that was layed into the foundation in the early 1970s around the area of the footings has slowly hardened. This was initially applied to cut down the vibrations from the nearby subway line form Museum to Central stations.

As a result, due to it hardening over the last 30 years, the Masonic Centre is experiencing more vibrations from passing underground trains; more and more so.

However, Peddle Thorp & Walker have taken this into account and won't effect the tower as such, especially with its amazing diagonal transfer structure. As CULWULLA has pointed out too "the weight of the tower actually is levered from the core, which goes thru the podium to below ground!".

Hopefully the weight of the tower will help alleviate the vibrations for the Masonic Centre in the long term.

Fabian
November 9th, 2003, 08:56 PM
I remember being inside and the vibrations wasn't a real problem being more of a typical background noise.

Muse
November 9th, 2003, 09:54 PM
Well, that's just the point. There's supposed to be virtually 0% noise and/or vibrations. Depends what type of train is passing underneath as well eg. Squeaky old sardine can vs newer Tangara or Millennium.

Fabian
November 10th, 2003, 02:14 AM
It's the same thing along the George St cinema strip. I remember hearing trains rumble while I was watching movies, or eating a mcdonalds across the road.

Muse
November 10th, 2003, 05:11 AM
If you mean Maccas @ 600 George St, that was the old Plaza Cinema which certainly didn't have the technology for cutting down the vibrations for the cut-n-tuck rail line that was yet to come. (The Plaza was built beforehand).

Below is how the height in one of Civic rendering's will differ from reality - much taller. Yay! Compare the number of rising floors to the Ibis World Square in the foreground and Museum Towers beside it, even though the perspective is different. In fact from the perspective in the render it should be much taller @ say the 10 floor plate level mark.

Gee, and I thought it looked grand from the inital renders! I'm a 'happy-chappy' :) (pic by climbing_crane).

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/509/379civicrender1.jpg_http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/p8973b0ecab744ef404b3da662e92571a/fa9de392.jpg

Fabian
November 10th, 2003, 05:28 AM
It's best to go to the actualy spot where the photo for the rendering was taken. I might do that this week.:)

Muse
November 10th, 2003, 05:36 AM
Please do. I think it's already obvious though.

CULWULLA
November 13th, 2003, 04:44 AM
looking good!

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/11/229842.jpg

as it looked in July from same spot

http://www.imagenode.com/files/transfer/6/2003/07/207081.jpg

Fabian
November 13th, 2003, 06:00 AM
Civic looks as tall as Museum towers already:)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid88/p19bbcb26e7fd902bc3499343e962cb5d/fa92e51c.jpg

And from my normal viewing point

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid88/p9ccc65701f321e25a834446cb88c0d71/fa92e579.jpg

Fabian
November 14th, 2003, 09:37 AM
Civic Tower from level 76 World Tower

Fantastic. It's looking great

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid88/p429083aa8859e5d0fc950980e75626ad/fa909ff8.jpg

Trances
November 14th, 2003, 09:38 AM
Right in to the core Fab
Great I think we all go the same shot or would post mine

Muse
November 14th, 2003, 10:42 PM
Cool angle Fabian. :) How good is Civic Tower already looking? Huh?........huh?

Also the pic you took the other day shows the rendering to be riiiiiight off which is great - gunna leave Museum Towers looking real puney. HA!

climbing_crane
November 16th, 2003, 12:45 PM
View from WT showing the unique Grocon jump system.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/pea0ee4e289328691f7608fd5423cd7f4/fa8cad49.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/p9f40acf8f6232d97543c3dc1573a5d2e/fa8cace8.jpg

Trances
November 16th, 2003, 12:52 PM
Get a load of the hotel roof on the right !

Orodreth
November 16th, 2003, 01:32 PM
Did anyone see this on Australian Idol tonite?
I picked it...

Muse
November 16th, 2003, 10:12 PM
Yershh. First thing you noticed on Shannon & Guy's last legge of their screaming teenybopper National Tour. Looked like they were pulling up to The Manadarin Club.

There are 2 x jump systems atop Civic and their 'working bits' might be enclosed in the huge metallic boxes (not sure about the red apparatus though).

The Ibis Hotel roof looks like a basketball court.

CULWULLA
November 17th, 2003, 05:41 AM
finally making impact from THH roof.
hard to believe it will be same height as Hordern Tower.

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/11/230622.jpg

Trances
November 17th, 2003, 06:03 AM
Good views there Cul
Next time if possible we could go up there ?

CULWULLA
November 19th, 2003, 04:26 AM
goulburn st vista. its only 1 floor below museum tower.

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/11/230811.jpg
starting to have mass.

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/11/230813.jpg

Fabian
November 20th, 2003, 09:55 AM
Civic today from Pitt St

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/pe7c2772d44c1629cbfc13598b23d8474/fa83d36e.jpg

climbing_crane
November 20th, 2003, 12:26 PM
What a morning this morning was. As soon as I saw the fog I just wanted to get into the city.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/pe2b10113ac3edbb24fc45866c83a3a57/fa8377f2.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/p07988f449d0d90b0cfddae2f2caa25e1/fa8377c6.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/p14ba290da7ad8b6bac3d092dea32bab2/fa83777e.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/p7e30fa6222eee44999308f4687904bef/fa837764.jpg

Muse
November 21st, 2003, 12:56 AM
Thanks for the pics guys. This is my 'baby' :)

pikey
November 21st, 2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Muse
Thanks for the pics guys. This is my 'baby' :)

Jesus, must've been a painful birth..........who's the father??? :D

Fabian
November 27th, 2003, 06:23 AM
The father

hmmmmmmmmm

The architect I presume

Alrighty, what else I have to say...

Whats this????

a new construction photo, taken today

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid90/pf03f1b03a133573df4874aa10e2fb479/fa74d7d9.jpg

CULWULLA
November 28th, 2003, 05:51 AM
view from bottom of Goulburn st near Harbour st. The civic rim is now height of Museum Towers.

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/11/232027.jpg

CULWULLA
December 1st, 2003, 05:13 AM
donned my superman cape on today and flew up above Civic Tower.


up up and away>>>http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/232631.jpg

close up of core. (ive been waiting a while for this pic)

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/232629.jpg

tower crane-you could almost touch it!

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/232630.jpg

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/232632.jpg

sleek facade. really nice up close!!

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/232634.jpg

fro
December 1st, 2003, 05:21 AM
Sorry to ask a dumb question, but approximately how much higher can we expect this tower to go? Floors/metres?:?

CULWULLA
December 1st, 2003, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by fro
Sorry to ask a dumb question, but approximately how much higher can we expect this tower to go? Floors/metres?:?
the current height of civics platform is 88m above ground! so 132m-88m =44m or 10 floors!

CULWULLA
December 2nd, 2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by CULWULLA
the current height of civics platform is 88m above ground! so 132m-88m =44m or 10 floors!
88m high now! 44m to go!
thats 2/3rd its height currently!:D

Aussie Steve
December 2nd, 2003, 03:27 AM
Having seen this tower in the flesh, I am very happy with it. Its simple and very well designed, considering it looks like its just plonked ontop of the Masonic Temple. it almost looks liek it will fall off!

CULWULLA
December 3rd, 2003, 04:51 AM
view from Hyde Park sth today.

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/233049.jpg

from normal carparkroof-
wow
http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/233050.jpg

Fabian
December 11th, 2003, 08:42 AM
Civic today from my usual spot

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid92/pcccf96f367f4c74801e4681f3a3e3d8f/fa547bb1.jpg

Fabian
December 11th, 2003, 08:56 AM
Civic today from my usual spot

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid92/pcccf96f367f4c74801e4681f3a3e3d8f/fa547bb1.jpg

spazpecker
December 11th, 2003, 09:13 AM
Looking mighty fine. The black glass is a winner - Fab's view should look brilliant in a few months time when the full height of the podium is enclosed in black ! :guns1:

Muse
December 12th, 2003, 01:44 AM
Nice one Fabian! It captures the grandness of this engineering marvel.

Unless Civic Tower construction fans want to keep taking pics, you can give yourselves a break from 23rd December to 5th Januray, as that covers the duration of the site closure. :okay:

AG
December 12th, 2003, 01:54 AM
Sorry to ask a possibly dumb question, but is Civic Tower some revived proposal from the 70's? :?

Muse
December 12th, 2003, 02:32 AM
Not a dumb question AG. :okay:

It was initally a Joseland Gilling design from the very late 60s to the early 70s and was earmarked for 1974. The Masonic Centre (the base) was completed around that time.

Civic Tower is a new and improved design to sit on the existing podium, revised by Peddle Thorp & Walker for this century!

We will now get a tower that's up to date technilogically and with wider floorplates instead of a redundant war bunker suffering concrete cancer BIG TIME!! Me happy :)

andad1
December 12th, 2003, 08:02 AM
How many more metres to go?

CULWULLA
December 12th, 2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by andad1
How many more metres to go?

88m high now! 44m to go!
thats 2/3rd its height currently!

Fabian
December 12th, 2003, 10:18 AM
8 floors to go as well. ;)

CULWULLA
December 12th, 2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Fabian
8 floors to go as well. ;)
10 floors!

Fabian
December 12th, 2003, 02:07 PM
I did a count of the floors (including those in the core box & the frame) and it was 16 floors out of 24 for the office component.

That count must of been based on exposed floors????:?

tayser
December 14th, 2003, 08:24 AM
for the Tonka Truck-type stuff lovers.

http://metropolis.tayser.net/misc/sydmasonic1312031.jpg

Muse
December 16th, 2003, 12:27 AM
LOL I'm a Tonka truck-type of guy. Anything that is part of the construction process.

The mixers seems to be almost whirling around 24/7 as they are always there feeding their booty into this gargantuan structure. :eat:

Avatar
December 16th, 2003, 04:30 AM
I was thinking more like Gargantuan Mistake :colgate:

It is nice to get a new building or to finish an old one... but it does seem to me 30 years behind stylistically... why couldn't the designers modernise the tower's design aesthetic somewhat. Do they honestly think it is aesthetically appealing in today's market?

It would have been so simple to create a wonderful, appealing and stylish tower, all it would have taken it slight alterations to the facade, but no, they improve the technology, spice up the floor plates and internals but leave the exterior to look like a bunker... what's more all from the same company that gave us Gateway Plaza, AMP & Comalco! If we have to enact the retro look please let it be 80s and not late 60s early 70s.

The Concrite concrete truck does look a lil cute there next to the tower it is just unfortunate it is feeding an ugly beast.

CULWULLA
December 16th, 2003, 04:49 AM
more gorgeous pix today of this concrete marvel!
CIVIC TOWER HITS 300FT!! now 92m above ground./16th office level.


http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/234860.jpg
http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/234862.jpg

Fabian
December 16th, 2003, 06:13 AM
So it must be level 17 inside the whitebox now????:? Do we go by exposed floors or not when counting the floors.

I also saw floor markings on the core and they are counting the lower levels in addition to the commercial floors. When Culwulla went up Museum two weeks ago, the last exposed floor on the core was level 21.

This is proving to be just as confusing as Latitude!!!!!

CULWULLA
December 16th, 2003, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by Fabian
So it must be level 17 inside the whitebox now????:? Do we go by exposed floors or not when counting the floors.

I also saw floor markings on the core and they are counting the lower levels in addition to the commercial floors. When Culwulla went up Museum two weeks ago, the last exposed floor on the core was level 21.

This is proving to be just as confusing as Latitude!!!!!
yeah thats 21 in total from basement which is 2 floors undergound. If its counted that way its a total of 32 floors when it tops out. atm its lev23 in whiteboxthing.
so 9 to go!

spazpecker
December 16th, 2003, 07:41 AM
Jesus it's looking good. The renders were a bit "iffy" to say the least but the reality is that this is gonna be a real stunner - and it's only 15-20 metres off being a 500 footer ! :)

Fabian
December 18th, 2003, 08:51 AM
Civic today from Pitt St

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid93/pac77d59c7e146851ed2f49fe4bb3be10/fa44f832.jpg

climbing_crane
December 18th, 2003, 11:21 AM
Nice work Fabby.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid93/p63a575b97e93d17daf65efce539964cd/fa44c5c9.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid93/p76872261f7be73873c36aaf6caac8791/fa44c4cd.jpg

climbing_crane
December 20th, 2003, 02:10 PM
From carpark at Entertainment center.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid93/pca73d71c8d85c0dbb62f5d1df45902dc/fa409504.jpg

Fabian
December 24th, 2003, 01:32 AM
Civic now visible from the south!!!

It's just to the left of Sydney Central in this pic taken by silvermb from Sydney Airport

http://samchuiphotos.com/Sydney/SYDGulfAir1.jpg

CULWULLA
December 24th, 2003, 01:50 AM
thats one of the best photos ive seen of Sydney skyline!:guns1:

Muse
December 24th, 2003, 01:08 PM
Super-imposed jet even :|

It just looks like the skyline is in about 1/4 sq km :( - Out of perspective.

climbing_crane
December 24th, 2003, 01:59 PM
A great photo but I can't seem to figure out where Latitudes middle cranes is.

Fabian
December 24th, 2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by climbing_crane
A great photo but I can't seem to figure out where Latitudes middle cranes is.

From that angle, it happens to be directly in front of the World Tower Crane and in front of a silvery area of the tower, shining gold in that image.

CULWULLA
December 25th, 2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Muse
Super-imposed jet even :|

It just looks like the skyline is in about 1/4 sq km :( - Out of perspective.
:? i think youll find thats for real! This is the exact image you get from Airport! planes coming in to land.
I love how the city looks close. it actually is!

Trances
December 26th, 2003, 12:04 AM
scary then huh ?

Tony P
December 26th, 2003, 10:10 AM
Muse, Silvermb most likely used a telephoto lens (or has really, really, really good zoom or a large focal length in his digital camera) which acts to compress the field of depth. The aeroplane is probably 15 times closer to the photographer than the city is, but a telephoto lens will 'compress' the distance, making the background seem like it's ...ahem, "in your face, baby"! ;)

It's used a lot in sporting photography and nature documentaries, where you can't get too close to the action. Sorry if you already know all this. :)

silvermb
December 27th, 2003, 02:43 AM
super-imposed jet....where did you pull that idea from?

not my picture, its the work of sydneysider sam chui
www.samchuiphotos.com

Muse
December 28th, 2003, 12:37 AM
Your pic by Sam Chui...

....errrrrr...from 50s & 60s sci-fi movies :? Yeah, that's it!

CULWULLA
December 30th, 2003, 04:58 AM
from THH Roof today!

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2003/12/236870.jpg

Muse
January 5th, 2004, 03:08 AM
I just love the sound of drills and cranage echoing along Goulburn St b/ween Civic and Latitude.

So, site is back in full swing. Yey!

Fabian
January 7th, 2004, 07:54 AM
Civic Today

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/p8cd7e84da3ec75047a809a69863b14ff/fa0a0d9a.jpg

I thin they are begining to place the Grocon logo along the windows of the western side

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/p62af7498d52097dfcad60722b542e0a4/fa0a0bc9.jpg

Muse
January 8th, 2004, 12:45 AM
Fabbo pic there Fabian :)

Yes. They're are 14 glassed levels already completed with another 3 level above that, still hollowed out.

So besides the enclosed white box atop of the main tower's construction, that means they're will be another 7 levels to go. Plus it's 2 to 2 'n 1/2 level huge white crown.

With 2 x the Gocon-Lubeca jump forms @ work (to my knowledge, all other Grocon constructions in Australia only have one), Civic Tower will be right on schedule to top out by June, without any doubt.

Go Civic Tower!! :guns1:

Muse
January 8th, 2004, 03:46 PM
There is now a core box for the shaft above the surrounding white border. It's easily visible through the green mesh below the surounding boarder. Once again thanks to the Grocon-Lubeca jumps x 2 :angel1:

Fabian
January 16th, 2004, 08:44 AM
Civic Tower today. It is now at level 18 (15 + 3).

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/p92634ea9a4239fbe32c1a1e7536805b3/f9eedff3.jpg

gazmo
January 17th, 2004, 06:35 AM
Civic Tower is starting to make an impact on the skyline when viewed from the inner west.

spazpecker - if you walk down Short Street Leichhardt, you can see Civic clear as day. Chances are you'll get a great view when driving down Marion Street towards Annandale too.

climbing_crane
January 18th, 2004, 03:13 AM
Civic today. I even saw a glimpse of it from the Manly Ferry.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/p85a624e8b272ffdf00958c614ef1c9e8/f9ea5ef7.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/pe0f0a5239b7fd1b99001fad682ae5e04/f9ea5cb5.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/p82abcfe1df46f52dbffff3f5e2911044/f9ea5ba8.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid99/pc2aa94878fcc3994e0b0a06c77b63d04/f9ea5a98.jpg

Fabian
January 20th, 2004, 09:46 AM
The floorplates have risen another floor as shown by the formation of the Grocon logo which now is up to it's third floor. It's become a great indicator of it's recent progress.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p18f5dd33938b9c55c5bc97d0bf75d247/f9e2cb75.jpg

And how it is looking from the harbour. It should be a standout when it tops out (enlarged pic on the way). As you can see it's stands out very well so far.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/pb8179a791dce1fb820ecd348fff20fb7/f9e2cdc6.jpg

Vitriol
January 20th, 2004, 07:37 PM
It's such a nice building, it's a shame it can't be taller. A tall tower like that would be beautiful.

CULWULLA
January 21st, 2004, 12:19 AM
in this pic, the Civic Tower will appear higher than AMEX tower when it hits full height. The RL for AMEX is 146m and Civic will be 150m.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/pb8179a791dce1fb820ecd348fff20fb7/f9e2cdc6.jpg

CULWULLA
January 21st, 2004, 05:03 AM
today- Its up to level 19 above podium (20 in core scaffold) thus 6 more rises. its now 107m high.

http://www.emporis.co.uk/files/transfer/6/2004/01/240411.jpg

taken Jan 23, 2003-virtually a year ago to the day!

http://213.203.248.216/transfer/6/2003/01/180088.jpg

Fabian
January 22nd, 2004, 08:28 AM
Civic exerting it's domiance over Bathurst St as it becomes a southern CBD giant

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p2be3bbc01c13d7894097a3d4028e7355/f9ddf40e.jpg

From Goulburn St

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/pfa8a61e3064f7d86d9a9162d65608828/f9ddf315.jpg

Fabian
January 23rd, 2004, 04:02 AM
Civic Today from Central Station. It fits in quite snuggly against the Regis Towers.

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CULWULLA
January 23rd, 2004, 05:12 AM
fabian, i think you might have to turn the ZOOM down abit . alot of your pix are way to close.no contex? it makes the pic a cluster of large shapes instead of a pic of buildings.the wires distract badly in that pic.

Fabian
January 23rd, 2004, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by CULWULLA
fabian, i think you might have to turn the ZOOM down abit . alot of your pix are way to close.no contex? it makes the pic a cluster of large shapes instead of a pic of buildings.the wires distract badly in that pic.

The reason why I zoom in on the buildings as to provide highly detailed images which forumers seem to want on this forum. I can always pull it back or post lower res on imagestation if it's a problem.

CULWULLA
January 23rd, 2004, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by Fabian
The reason why I zoom in on the buildings as to provide highly detailed images which forumers seem to want on this forum. I can always pull it back or post lower res if it's a problem.
but its only the detail of foreground bldgs or wires. ive even pulled back on zoom now. believe me its better with more context!!!!

Trances
January 23rd, 2004, 05:25 PM
Still good to see civic tower
those wires are crazy no idea we had them that thick in sydney
Sorry
I might also say Fab
restrick image sizes if people want full size they can click on the link
i only say this as I am on dail up now

CULWULLA
January 24th, 2004, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by Trances
Still good to see civic tower
those wires are crazy no idea we had them that thick in sydney
Sorry
I might also say Fab
restrick image sizes if people want full size they can click on the link
i only say this as I am on dail up now
yeah i agree,good idea!!!
its ok if you have cable but alot have dial up,( like most use after work and weekends)-when we actually have time to go on forum!!!! when im at home (after 8pm weekdays and weekends) i dont really want to waste my time looking at these threads with massive pix -even though i would love to!! i just simply havent got 5-10mins to sit infront of my pc to watch photos appear just for 1 thread!lol
cheers

Mar
January 25th, 2004, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Fabian
The reason why I zoom in on the buildings as to provide highly detailed images which forumers seem to want on this forum. I can always pull it back or post lower res on imagestation if it's a problem.

I think you should pull back a little on the zoom also. It's a bit pointless seeing a close up of a few windows and walls ;).

Fabian
January 29th, 2004, 08:05 AM
Civic is going to look great from Sydney Tower when it's done

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p7a53de6f0426cb8d91f4bf5151994012/f9c92198.jpg

climbing_crane
January 29th, 2004, 12:23 PM
That's a good one Fabian. I'm positive I passed you on George Street today outside the post office.

AG
January 30th, 2004, 03:07 AM
I remember seeing this beauty. From the street it looks a fair bit taller than it really is. One of the best looking buildings at the south-east end of town! Not hard considering an eyesore sits on the opposite corner which I had to put up with while staying in Sydney. :D

climbing_crane
January 31st, 2004, 01:06 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pb55061f7526cf86d3c51cfc06d738bc7/f9c4ae0f.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pf3031ad4df35efd39184a105d7b8f244/f9c4acfb.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p6a4e9a31069383913d1cf84660146ecb/f9c4abdb.jpg

Fabian
January 31st, 2004, 10:58 PM
It's at level 20 guys as another section of the Grocon logo is exposed following a floor rise;)

Muse
February 1st, 2004, 05:31 AM
You must be talking about the core Fabian. I go by floorplates and under the green mesh, it's up to level 17.

So that means as far as floorplates go, another 7. Then there is the equal-to-2-floor crown atop of that.

I'm hoping that the huge crown will eventually be graced with neons/logos, even if they are the D.P.P.'s which are soon to move into the lowest 5 floors i.e. levels 1-5 of the tower.

Considering this is the newer 'legal eagle' area of Sydney.

Ah, the balance of (in)justice ;) :

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Fabian
February 1st, 2004, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Muse
You must be talking about the core Fabian. I go by floorplates and under the green mesh, it's up to level 17.

So that means as far as floorplates go, another 7. Then there is the equal-to-2-floor crown atop of that.

I'm hoping that the huge crown will eventually be graced with neons/logos, even if they are the D.P.P.'s which are soon to move into the lowest 5 floors i.e. levels 1-5 of the tower.

Considering this is the newer 'legal eagle' area of Sydney.

Ah, the balance of (in)justice ;) :

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I was, using Cul's system of keeping record of floors. A good hint to know if there has been a floor rise, count how many floors the now forming Grocon logo covers. Four floors have the logo at present.:)

Muse
February 1st, 2004, 09:37 AM
4 floors of core that is. You can see it through the mesh and just above the mesh.

BTW Fabian, do you mean the large white barracade with the Grocon logo on its sides? The core is within there, not floorplates.

Actually, on the bottom part of the green mesh, 2 more floor plates are in the midst of being formed, bringing the total of floorplates coming up to 19.

I love how the construction workers are working until about 7.00PM on weekdays and up to about 5.00-6.00PM on Saturdays. A lot of this to do with the thousands they are paying in fees to the SCC for the use of the footpaths i.e. they want to finish constructing this one ASAP.

It is expected to top out by June at this stage, and by jingo they will 'make it' :okay:

Fabian
February 1st, 2004, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Muse
4 floors of core that is. You can see it through the mesh and just above the mesh.

BTW Fabian, do you mean the large white barracade with the Grocon logo on its sides? The core is within there, not floorplates.
:okay:

Four floors have windows that are painted red that will help eventually form the Grocon logo as the towers tops out.

And yes my floor calculations did include the white barracade.:)

Muse
February 2nd, 2004, 12:36 AM
I think that's actually orange plastic on the windows forming the Grocon logo.

CULWULLA
February 5th, 2004, 05:52 AM
view from MUSEUM STATION today. should look better in 2 months!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/126masonicfrommuse-med.jpg

Fabian
February 5th, 2004, 08:11 AM
Another core rise guys.

The word "Tower" in capitals has now appeared on the western side in the middle of the forming Grocon logo, now five floors tall.

Here's a pic with it's Goulburn St neighbour - Latitude

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p20e231f9a36db2a452a9f5a3aa29b61b/f9b6450a.jpg

climbing_crane
February 7th, 2004, 08:02 AM
Civic Tower as processed below


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pa427c793f04e0d0d9ac4edfd4763e3c2/f9b24ed0.jpg

Fabian
February 7th, 2004, 09:15 AM
Civic Tower today from Sydney Harbour.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid103/p839621af0bfcf602a390dfe9ee9c0594/f9b1cac0.jpg

CULWULLA
February 7th, 2004, 11:41 AM
fab, it you have to zoom in that much dont bother. its just a waste of post.:bash:

demanjo
February 7th, 2004, 11:45 AM
Are they going to put a finish over the top of the bottom where the supports are?

It looks a bit odd with those exposed steel planks out there :?

climbing_crane
February 8th, 2004, 03:47 AM
Quite a few pages ago I read they were removing those steel beams. Then a page or so later someone posted that they were covering it with concrete at some stage.

Muse
February 8th, 2004, 04:56 AM
The steel beams will eventually be covered by a nicely finshed concrete in sort of a radial ribbed pattern. The beams ain't goin' nowhere. This was confirmed by the project office at the time of enquiry.

They will assist in helping the force caused by the dead (and live) weight of the tower being centred down through to the core.

CULWULLA
February 9th, 2004, 04:38 AM
speaking of steel beams. they are now being hidden behind the new cladding by steel panels.
check it out>

http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2004/02/242019.jpg

Civic tower how has 19 levels exposed with 3 in scaffold .so only 2 more + plant to go.
currently 117m to top of corebox.

http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2004/02/242020.jpg


http://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2004/02/242021.jpg

SydneyDude
February 9th, 2004, 04:42 AM
Grrrrr Cul! lol the new cladding over the steel panels was MY scoop! haha

I too went to the carpark roof and got pictures of the new cladding. Ahhh well :)

Great pics, this tower is lookin swell.

CULWULLA
February 9th, 2004, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by SydneyDude
Grrrrr Cul! lol the new cladding over the steel panels was MY scoop! haha

I too went to the carpark roof and got pictures of the new cladding. Ahhh well :)

Great pics, this tower is lookin swell.
hey still post your pix. i actually havent had a construction walk since late january.lol
how bloody hot was it today!

SydneyDude
February 9th, 2004, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by CULWULLA
hey still post your pix. i actually havent had a construction walk since late january.lol
how bloody hot was it today!

I actually went yesterday. I havent done a constrution walk for a few months, and it looks like we went to the same spots. Freaky shit lol. Im not gona post any pics coz they are exactly the same as yours :)

Cheers

gazmo
February 9th, 2004, 06:25 AM
I hope that's not the final look of the cladding for the underside - it gives the tower a real "garage door" feeling.

gazmo
February 9th, 2004, 06:27 AM
Actually - I take that back - as long as the cladding "ribs" like up with the vertical ribs of the tower... that integrated look could look pretty sharp.

Originally posted by gazmo
I hope that's not the final look of the cladding for the underside - it gives the tower a real "garage door" feeling.

Fabian
February 10th, 2004, 09:54 AM
I was on the train travelling from the inner west today and it's looking quite nice and an absolute standout, even though Latitude is trying to cry out for some attention by being in the way.

Fabian
February 12th, 2004, 07:09 AM
Civic Today

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid103/p0df5bfcbef121ac75b46c156c59f21d2/f9a51d27.jpg

climbing_crane
February 12th, 2004, 07:13 AM
Nice one. Wait till you see the images of Aspect I took at lunch. They should be here by about 9 tonite.

Steve World Tower
March 1st, 2004, 04:53 AM
The speed this baby has gone up is incredible, almost as fast as Latitude.