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xerxesjc28
September 12th, 2010, 09:51 PM
Interesting article about Boom-cities such as Miami, Singapore, and Dubai.

Swoons Over Miami
A conversation with author Saskia Sassen, who coined the term "global city." As she tells FP: Don't focus only on London and New York. The rest of the world should want to be the next Miami.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/08/27/miami_swoon?page=0,3

In the 1970s and 80s, back when crime peaked in Manhattan and downtowns across the United States and talent and money were draining out to the suburbs, a young sociologist named Saskia Sassen had a hunch the emerging conventional wisdom about the death of the city was wrong.

Then a researcher in New York City, conversant in five languages, she spent her time trolling the small shops and businesses around Wall Street. Even as the city's local economy was struggling, she recognized the emergence of new ties to the world beyond New York -- small, specialized financial and marketing firms with global links, immigrant communities with ties back home, museum curators drawing upon international networks. Sassen predicted that the Big Apple was not dead, but about to spring back to life, with more international clout than ever.

In 1991, when Sassen published her first book, The Global City, which popularized the term, many onlookers were skeptical. After all, the United States was then mired in recession, and urban planners weren't yet talking about how to reinvent downtown or attract a "creative class." Many thought that opportunities would flourish outside cities, and telecommuting might soon make the morning commute obsolete. But in the two decades since, history has proven Sassen right. Today, cities are increasingly important, both as places people desire to live and as global nodes of commerce, culture, and ideas.

On the occasion of the publication of Foreign Policy's 2010 Global Cities Index, we caught up with Sassen to ask her to pick the next round of urban winners and losers for the 21st century. The most extraordinary success? The rise of Miami. Missed opportunity? Beirut.

Foreign Policy: What distinguishes a global city?

Saskia Sassen: A global city makes new norms. And two requirements for that happening are complexity and diversity. Quite often, in countries around the world, it's the most global city, especially New York, where new national and international norms are made.

FP: Is a global city always a megacity, and vice versa?

SS: I'm so glad you asked. Most global cities are really not megacities. Some are, but the question of size is a tricky one. Size is important for a global city because you need enormous diversity in very specialized sectors, a whole range of them. Some of the leading global cities are very large, like Tokyo or Shanghai. On the other hand, you have cities that are simply very large, like Mumbai or Sao Paulo. I don't think Lagos is a global city; it's just a huge city. You have a lot of very large cities that are not necessarily global cities.

FP: Can any city become a global city?

SS: No, I don't think that any city can.

FP: So what's the magic recipe?

SS: Many of today's global cities are old-world cities that reinvented themselves. Like London or Istanbul, they already had enormous complexity and diversity. On the other hand, there are old-world cities, like Venice, that are definitely not global cities today.

And then there's Miami. Never an old-world city, today Miami is certainly a global city -- why? It's quite surprising. Where did its diversity and complexity come from? Let's go back to the history. Before the 1990s, Miami was sort of a dreadful little spot, frankly. There was lots of domestic tourism; it was cheap; it was rundown; it was seen as dominated by the Cubans. But several important things happened. One was the infrastructure of international trade that the Cubans in Miami developed. There was also real estate development, often spurred by wealthy individuals from South America.

All this coincided with the opening of Latin America. In the 1990s and early 2000s, firms from all over the world -- the Taiwanese, Italians, Korean, French, all over -- set up regional headquarters in Miami. In the 1990s, there was also deregulation, so Miami becomes the banking center for Central America. Then the art circuit, the designers' circuit, and other things began to come into the city. Large international corporations began to locate branches there, forging a strong bridge with Europe that doesn't run through New York. That mix of cultures -- in such a concentrated space, and covering so many different sectors -- created remarkable diversity and complexity. Of course, the Miami case is rather exceptional.

FP: So what's the future Miami of Africa?

SS: You have probably two cities that people could think of as complex places in sub-Saharan Africa. One is Nairobi, Kenya, where some of the architecture still reflects British colonial history. The other one is Johannesburg, South Africa. In recent years, I would say Jo'burg is more dynamic, but Nairobi has lost ground.

FP: And the Miamis of Asia?

SS: In China, there are fast-growing cities like Shenzhen, which is also a port and a place where things come together. But Chinese cities are too controlled to be equivalent to Miami.

Two similar cases might be Singapore and Dubai. Both have constructed themselves arduously, with a lot of resources and government-driven projects, mind you. The market alone could not have done it in either Singapore or Dubai. In a sense, the whole city is a government-driven project -- they have constructed themselves as global cities, and very significant ones.

Elsewhere? Quito, Ecuador; Bogotá, Colombia; Caracas, Venezuela -- these are all cities with deep colonial histories; they were important nodes, part of a colonial empire, so there was a strong international connection already. They are cities to watch.

But Miami, a little outpost that suddenly explodes -- that is still very rare. Dubai and Singapore are the only great similar examples.

FP: How do you explain them?

SS: Well, I think Dubai and Singapore are government-driven projects. It took a lot of hard work. In a way Singapore is surprising. Culturally it's not cosmopolitan; on the other hand, there was the obligation to learn several languages. Everybody had to study English.

FP: Are there any cities that missed, or are missing, their chance to be global cities?

SS: Beirut, if it had not had a civil war that destroyed it. Beirut had once been the global financial center and banking and commercial center for that whole region. The networks of the Lebanese are truly global and enormously sophisticated; they're everywhere. That keeps sustaining Beirut a bit, but really can't transform it. And I think that void in the region is partially what allowed Dubai to become a major trading center, and then a financial center and global city.

Dubai, you know, has it all supposedly -- including skiing now, which is ridiculous, so that you can function there. Still, it's difficult to invest in real estate for the long term there. So many people who actually work in Mumbai prefer to live in Dubai. The flights that go from Dubai to Mumbai are HUGE! And the planes are full of business people! And I've flown that. The first class is fantastic, and it's not that long between flights because there is a lot of traffic between those two cities now.

FP: Is old Europe then old news?

SS: Well, I think Copenhagen, in a way, is becoming the Dubai of Europe. I love that image. I just get so amused by these things. It used to be that London was the platform for Europe. The Japanese firms, the Dutch, German, Spanish, Italian, even the French firms -- if they wanted to operate in Europe, they located in London.

But today, you don't need that single platform. So Copenhagen and Zurich are two cities that have become very attractive for all kinds of reasons to firms, whether European firms or firms from the rest of the world. And so they locate in Copenhagen, which is a very reasonable city: much cheaper, well organized, and it ranks as one of the top cities in terms of reliability, investors' protections, good on everything. And Zurich, I don't know if you have been to Zurich, but if you can live in Zurich, why live anywhere else in Europe? It's absolutely so stunning.

FP: Where did you grow up?

SS: Well I grew up, first of all, in five languages. And I lived in the Netherlands, Argentina, Italy, and then I studied in France, I came to the United States, and I went back to France, and so that kind of a life. I speak like a native from Buenos Aires, you know, a particular city.

FP: Can you speculate on what FP's Global Cities rankings might look like in 15 years?

SS: I think that many of today's top global cities of today are here to stay. Of course there'll be some shift in their relative influence. And trends like the ascendance of Dubai or of Copenhagen over the last few years. Or Singapore -- 15 years ago Singapore was radically different. Maybe it looked the same, but it was a different type of global city -- it was not a global city, really.

Istanbul is going to be enormously significant. I mean, who are the top investors in Istanbul today? They are from both the West and the East. The East includes Kazakhstan, China, Russia, Bulgaria; it's just extraordinary.

The other thing that is happening is of course China. In the future, I think that China and Chinese cities will be even more significant.

FP: Will China's emerging megacities be global cities? By 2030, McKinsey and Co. projects there will be 221 cities in China with populations of more than 1 million.

SS: Not global cities in the same way -- they will be Chinese global cities. What I mean is that Beijing will never be a global city of the world, but it will be a global city in the world. The distinction is that of the world means that you have to really become a bit de-nationalized, more ethnically and linguistically diverse. Beijing is still quite homogenous. Same thing with Tokyo. Tokyo never became a global city of the world. It's not. But in the world, it's very powerful. In China, only Hong Kong is of the world, because it has been evolving global connections there for a hundred years.

FP: So there's no mainland Chinese Miami?

SS: Please tell me if you discover it.

joshsam
September 13th, 2010, 05:00 PM
For me Miami can't really become a global city. There is missing something, like in so many US cities. Smaller Asian an European cities(1-3 million) compared to Miami have a much more 'global' feeling to it than some of the bigger US cities(+5million).

Plus Miami is full of hotel towers that make it look big, compaireble to Benidorm in Europe.

xerxesjc28
September 13th, 2010, 06:57 PM
^^ The person they were interviewing explains preety well what is meant by Global and what cities are not global. For instance chinease and Japanese cities with the exception of Hongkong are not global in that they deal mostly within their own country. Miami relies heavily on places outside the USA, as does Singapore, Hongkong,Dubai and most European cities.

I think you may be talking about cities which are more cosmopolitan then Miami, which is totally differnt thing.

desertpunk
September 14th, 2010, 12:53 AM
For me Miami can't really become a global city. There is missing something, like in so many US cities. Smaller Asian an European cities(1-3 million) compared to Miami have a much more 'global' feeling to it than some of the bigger US cities(+5million).

Plus Miami is full of hotel towers that make it look big, compaireble to Benidorm in Europe.

Miami has over 5 million and is pushing towards 6 million. At some point it will be larger than Hong Kong. And it has decent jewish delicatessens which is my own definition of a "Global City".

Comfortably Numb
September 14th, 2010, 01:13 AM
For me Miami can't really become a global city. There is missing something, like in so many US cities. Smaller Asian an European cities(1-3 million) compared to Miami have a much more 'global' feeling to it than some of the bigger US cities(+5million).

Plus Miami is full of hotel towers that make it look big, compaireble to Benidorm in Europe.

Miami can certainly become a top global city. It already has the largest concentration of international banks in the US. It is the 7th largest metro area in the United States and has the 3rd biggest skyline (after NY and Chicago).

As for the skyline, it certainly does not contain just hotel (or condo) towers. There's quite a broad mix of both residential and commercial towers. To prove my point, this is the view from my balcony:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs609.snc4/58944_1605202893941_1352194017_31589502_6020153_n.jpg

Add to that, the Port Of Miami is strategically important and is expanding with a new tunnel being built. Of course, the city is also a leading mecca for fashion and entertainment.

It's a very unique and diverse city in the US...you either love it or hate it. The chaos certainly isn't for everyone!

bayviews
September 14th, 2010, 01:36 AM
And then there's Miami. Never an old-world city, today Miami is certainly a global city -- why? It's quite surprising. Where did its diversity and complexity come from? Let's go back to the history. Before the 1990s, Miami was sort of a dreadful little spot, frankly. There was lots of domestic tourism; it was cheap; it was rundown; it was seen as dominated by the Cubans. But several important things happened. One was the infrastructure of international trade that the Cubans in Miami developed. There was also real estate development, often spurred by wealthy individuals from South America.

All this coincided with the opening of Latin America. In the 1990s and early 2000s, firms from all over the world -- the Taiwanese, Italians, Korean, French, all over -- set up regional headquarters in Miami. In the 1990s, there was also deregulation, so Miami becomes the banking center for Central America. Then the art circuit, the designers' circuit, and other things began to come into the city. Large international corporations began to locate branches there, forging a strong bridge with Europe that doesn't run through New York. That mix of cultures -- in such a concentrated space, and covering so many different sectors -- created remarkable diversity and complexity. Of course, the Miami case is rather exceptional.

Miami may strive to be a global city.

But Miami's more often described as the Capital of Latin America, or the Meeting Place of the Americas, etc. in reference to its strong demographic & economic connections with the Caribbean, Central & South America.

I'd say Miami's more of a Hemispheric City.

old school
September 14th, 2010, 01:37 AM
For me Miami can't really become a global city. There is missing something, like in so many US cities. Smaller Asian an European cities(1-3 million) compared to Miami have a much more 'global' feeling to it than some of the bigger US cities(+5million).

Plus Miami is full of hotel towers that make it look big, compaireble to Benidorm in Europe.

Just a typical Eurocentric viewpoint...

Look, Europe is "boring" and not really "cosmopolitan" except for two or three places.

Comfortably Numb
September 14th, 2010, 01:46 AM
Just a typical Eurocentric viewpoint...

Look, Europe is "boring" and not really "cosmopolitan" except for two or three places.

You can't really compare Miami to a European city. For starters, Miami is a very "new" city. Much of its growth has occurred over the last 30 years and in many ways, it's grown too quickly for its infrastructure to cope. So while Miami may not offer much in the way of history or the kind of mass transit infrastructure you'd find in a much smaller European city, it does offer a mishmash of Latin American/Caribbean and US culture, amazing beaches and literally hundreds of different restaurants, catering to all tastes. Oh and as this is a skyscraper site, the skyline is breathtaking, especially at night, from so many different angles.

Miami does need to vastly improve its mass transit though and it really lacks parks and open spaces for a city located in such a year round climate, ideal for growing all kinds of foliage.

LtBk
September 14th, 2010, 03:42 AM
Just a typical Eurocentric viewpoint...

Look, Europe is "boring" and not really "cosmopolitan" except for two or three places.

Have you been to Europe?

joshsam
September 14th, 2010, 03:21 PM
^^ just let him LtBk. If thinks Europe is 'boring' so let him think that.
We know it's not ;) and we also know that a 100.000 city in Europe has most of the time more to offer tha a +500.000 USA one.

I have no doubt that Miami is a pretty diverse city but as said by C. Numb it lacks what European cities have build up over the years. But is doesn't take away that Maimi is a big city. Also: USA cities(most) are way to outspread to give that feeling of the giant dense and super bustling metropolis...It doesn't take away that they are, but it's just not that visible because there is more activity in the burbs.

I always say that USA cities are very decentralized. The burbs take away lots of activity that in other cities around the world would also take place in the city center. e.g.

Downtown USA: offices/culture/(shopping??? in a much lesser extend due to malls)/ some other leisure activities
--> Shopping and leisure activities take place in burbs, even office parks keep away offices in Downtown.

City center Europe: Living/culture/shopping/offices/almost all other leisure activities.
--> burbs are mainly for living and are ofthen dense and totally not wide spread.

joshsam
September 14th, 2010, 03:43 PM
^^oh btw every time I've ran into a comment of mister old school he was either trying to prove other people wrong thinking he knows the best or explaining why: America>rest.

xerxesjc28
September 14th, 2010, 05:21 PM
Again, I think you guys are confusing cosmopolitanism with what this article is describing Global cities, or more precisely Global Boom cities.

Miami does not supersede European cities just as Amsterdam in terms of cosmopolitanism (which it is still lacking but trying its best to catch up and improve on) but it does compete pretty well in terms of being a global city.

Luli Pop
September 14th, 2010, 05:43 PM
I don't even think Miami is a city.

For me it's just a series of real state developments and suburbs connected by car, linked to two tiny mini nano centers: the 5-blocks touristic Ocean Drive-Washington-Collins mini center; and the actual Downtown.

The rest of it is just a non-city.

As for the comment saying it's a fashion Mecca; It's true I see a lot of brazilians and caribbean people dressed on Miami's style; but frankly for the rest of the world Miami is a cheesy place with wonderfull beaches and location, and the best air connections of all beaches in the tropical part of western hemisphere.

miamipaintball
September 14th, 2010, 07:06 PM
Miami has over 5 million and is pushing towards 6 million. At some point it will be larger than Hong Kong. And it has decent jewish delicatessens which is my own definition of a "Global City".

ill misinformed, miami has a population of 4.1k the county has 2.5million, while the metro has 5

Just a typical Eurocentric viewpoint...

Look, Europe is "boring" and not really "cosmopolitan" except for two or three places.



ive been to cities (100k)that offer more for less in europe than miami does, coming from a miami resident.

joshsam
September 14th, 2010, 08:12 PM
Again, I think you guys are confusing cosmopolitanism with what this article is describing Global cities, or more precisely Global Boom cities.

Miami does not supersede European cities just as Amsterdam in terms of cosmopolitanism (which it is still lacking but trying its best to catch up and improve on) but it does compete pretty well in terms of being a global city.


Ok, I understand. So it is a global city but not a very cosmopolitan one, yett.

dmoor82
September 14th, 2010, 11:14 PM
Huge Airport,Huge Port,Racially diverse,Huge population,Big Time reputation,Tourist Hotspot,Pro Sports galore,Massive Skyline,DENSE(over 13k/sq mile),good universities,Huge Art's scene,Huge Fashion hotspot,great Weather and Beaches!Huge GDP! In my eyes Miami is a Global City/Metro at The lower end of The Spectrum!

miami305
September 14th, 2010, 11:24 PM
I don't even think Miami is a city.

For me it's just a series of real state developments and suburbs connected by car, linked to two tiny mini nano centers: the 5-blocks touristic Ocean Drive-Washington-Collins mini center; and the actual Downtown.

The rest of it is just a non-city.

As for the comment saying it's a fashion Mecca; It's true I see a lot of brazilians and caribbean people dressed on Miami's style; but frankly for the rest of the world Miami is a cheesy place with wonderfull beaches and location, and the best air connections of all beaches in the tropical part of western hemisphere.

Yeah and then you wonder why so many people from Europe, Latin America and the Caribbean want to move to Miami and live here....:nuts:...."cheesy place" I wonder where you are from??????

dmoor82
September 14th, 2010, 11:27 PM
Miami Metro has over 5.4 million people,it boasts America's 4th largest Urbanized area at 5.2 million people only behind NYC,LA,CHI!Miami-Dade County is The Country's eighth most populous County at 2.5 Million people!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami also in 2009 UBS did a study of 73 Global cities' purchasing power and wealth,MIA was The richest U.S. city(4 U.S. cities in study) and The 5th richest city in The WORLD in purchasing power!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBS_AG

desertpunk
September 15th, 2010, 12:43 AM
Ok, I understand. So it is a global city but not a very cosmopolitan one, yett.

"Cosmopolitan" is a subjective concept, no? I'm sure people in a lot of cities consider themselves cosmopolitan because there's an Italian restaurant or an art museum. If a European such as yourself has such a high standard for what makes a city cosmopolitan than I'm sure you would be very disappointed anywhere outside your confines that you travel. Miami is what it is. It is growing and changing and that transformation will continue for some time. If it cannot interest you then I'd recommend never going there.

Comfortably Numb
September 15th, 2010, 01:42 AM
Ok, I understand. So it is a global city but not a very cosmopolitan one, yett.

I disagree. Miami is very cosmopolitan. People just seem to assume it's only Cuban or Haitian, but there are a lot of different ethnic groups living here, especially in South Beach or Downtown, or in places like Aventura. I've also noticed the Asian population increasing steadily here too over the last couple of years. It's just that the Latin culture is the prevailing culture here, but many other cultures co-exist.

LtBk
September 15th, 2010, 04:17 AM
Yeah and then you wonder why so many people from Europe, Latin America and the Caribbean want to move to Miami and live here....:nuts:...."cheesy place" I wonder where you are from??????

Are there many Europeans moving to Miami?

Aceventura
September 15th, 2010, 06:24 AM
Are there many Europeans moving to Miami?

I have met people who have moved here from Norway, Denmark, Ireland, England, Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Switzerland, Greece, Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Turkey. I would not be surprised if there were more native born Russians in my neighborhood than native born U.S. citizens.

I'd say Miami's more of a Hemispheric City

I like that! :cheers:

miamipaintball
September 15th, 2010, 02:36 PM
the reason most move to Miami is to escape the winter cold like my parents, other than that they could care less

joshsam
September 15th, 2010, 05:12 PM
Huge Airport,Huge Port,Racially diverse,Huge population,Big Time reputation,Tourist Hotspot,Pro Sports galore,Massive Skyline,DENSE(over 13k/sq mile),good universities,Huge Art's scene,Huge Fashion hotspot,great Weather and Beaches!Huge GDP! In my eyes Miami is a Global City/Metro at The lower end of The Spectrum!

I agree with you on the above things, but: 13k/sqmi is not what you can call DENSE at all.
Brussels where I live near has only 1.5 million people in metro and pop density is 16,857/sq mi over the whole metro area, and it isn't very dense...

+ a huge skyline does not make a city great or global. I can give you numerous cities with a huge skyline that mean notting.

joshsam
September 15th, 2010, 05:24 PM
According to wikipedia:

Definition: A global city (also called world city or sometimes alpha city or world center) is a city deemed to be an important node point in the global economic system. The concept comes from geography and urban studies and rests on the idea that globalization can be understood as largely created, facilitated and enacted in strategic geographic locales according to a hierarchy of importance to the operation of the global system of finance and trade.

The most complex of these entities is the "global city", whereby the linkages binding a city have a direct and tangible effect on global affairs through socio-economic means.[1] The terminology of "global city", as opposed to megacity, is believed to have been coined by the sociologist Saskia Sassen in reference to her 1991 work, "The Global City: New York, London, Tokyo"[2] though the term "world city" to describe cities which control a disproportionate amount of global business dates to at least May 1886 to describe Liverpool by the Illustrated London News.[3] Patrick Geddes used of the term "world city" later in 1915.[4] Cities can fall from being appropriate to such categorization, such as in the case of cities that have become less cosmopolitan, and less internationally renowned in the current era, e.g., Kaliningrad, Russia; Thessaloniki, Greece; and Alexandria, Egypt.

Criteria:
Economic
Political
Cultural
Infrastructure


In 2008, the American journal Foreign Policy, in conjunction with consulting firm A.T. Kearney and the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, published a ranking of global cities, based on consultation with Saskia Sassen, Witold Rybczynski, and others. Foreign Policy noted that "the world’s biggest, most interconnected cities help set global agendas, weather transnational dangers, and serve as the hubs of global integration. They are the engines of growth for their countries and the gateways to the resources of their regions."[31]

In 2010 the index was updated, and the top thirty ranked were:[32]


1 New York City
2 London
3 Tokyo
4 Paris
5 Hong Kong
6 Chicago
7 Los Angeles
8 Singapore
9 Sydney
10 Seoul
11 Brussels
12 San Francisco
13 Washington D.C.
14 Toronto
15 Beijing
16 Berlin
17 Madrid
18 Vienna
19 Boston
20 Frankfurt
20 Shanghai
22 Buenos Aires
23 Stockholm
24 Zurich
25 Moscow
26 Barcelona
27 Dubai
28 Rome
29 Amsterdam
30 Mexico City


Global Power City Index
The Institute for Urban Strategies at The Mori Memorial Foundation in Tokyo, Japan issued a comprehensive study of global cities in 2009. The ranking is based on six overall categories, "Economy", "Research & Development", "Cultural Interaction", "Livability", "Ecology & Natural Environment", and "Accessibility", with 69 individual indicators among them.[33] This Japanese ranking also breaks down top ten world cities ranked in subjective categories such as "manager, researcher, artist, visitor and resident."

Rank City Score Best category (position)
1 New York City 330.4 Economy (1.) Research & Development (1.)
2 London 322.3 Cultural Interaction (1.)
3 Paris 317.8 Livability (1.) Accessibility (1.)
4 Tokyo 305.6 Economy (2.) Research & Development (2.)
5 Singapore 274.4 Economy (5.) Cultural Interaction (5.)
6 Berlin 259.3 Livability (2.)
7 Vienna 255.1 Ecology & Natural Environment (3.)
8 Amsterdam 250.5 Accessibility (3.)
9 Zürich 242.5 Ecology & Natural Environment (2.)
10 Hong Kong 242.5 Economy (4.)
11 Madrid 242.5 Ecology & Natural Environment (7.) Accessibility (7.)
12 Seoul 242.1 Research & Development (4.)
13 Los Angeles 240.0 Research & Development (5.)
14 Sydney 237.3 Ecology & Natural Environment (9.)
15 Toronto 234.6 Livability (5.)
16 Frankfurt 232.9 Accessibility (5.)
17 Copenhagen 231.7 Economy (9.) Livability (9.)
18 Brussels 229.9 Livability (8.)
19 Geneva 229.7 Ecology & Natural Environment (1.)
20 Boston 226.2 Research & Development(6.)

World City Survey
In 2010 the London based consultant firm Knight Frank LLP together with the Citibank published a survey of world cities.[34][35] The Wealth Report 2010, which includes the World City Survey, assesses four parameters — economic activity, political power, knowledge and influence and quality of life. The list aimed to rank the world´s most influential cities.[36]

Rank City Best category
1 New York Economic activity
2 London Economic activity
3 Paris Quality of life
4 Tokyo Economic activity
5 Los Angeles Knowledge and influence
6 Brussels Political power
7 Singapore Economic activity
8 Berlin Quality of life
9 Beijing Political power
10 Toronto Quality of life
11 Chicago Knowledge and influence
12 Washington, D.C. Political power
13 Seoul Economic activity
14 Hong Kong Knowledge and influence
15 Frankfurt Quality of life
16 Sydney Knowledge and influence
17 San Francisco Quality of life
18 Bangkok Political power
19 Shanghai Economic activity
20 Zürich Quality of life



GaWC studies

Alpha ++ world cities:
London, New York

Alpha + world cities:
Hong Kong, Paris, Singapore, Tokyo, Sydney, Milan, Shanghai, Beijing

Alpha world cities:
Madrid, Moscow, Seoul, Toronto, Brussels, Buenos Aires, Mumbai, Kuala
Lumpur, Chicago

Alpha - world cities:
Warsaw, São Paulo, Zürich, Amsterdam, Mexico City, Jakarta, Dublin, Bangkok, Taipei, Istanbul, Rome, Lisbon, Frankfurt am Main, Stockholm, Prague, Vienna, Budapest, Athens, Caracas, Los Angeles, Auckland, Santiago

Beta + world cities:
Washington, Melbourne, Johannesburg, Atlanta, Barcelona, San Francisco, Manila, Bogotá, Tel Aviv, New Delhi, Dubai, Bucharest

Beta world cities:
Oslo, Berlin, Helsinki, Geneva, Copenhagen, Riyadh, Hamburg, Cairo, Luxembourg, Bangalore, Dallas, Kuwait City, Boston

Beta - world cities:
Munich, Jeddah, Miami, Lima, Kiev, Houston, Guangzhou, Beirut, Karachi, Düsseldorf, Sofia, Montevideo, Nicosia, Rio de Janeiro, Ho Chi Minh City

Gamma + world cities:
Montreal, Nairobi, Bratislava, Panama City, Chennai, Brisbane, Casablanca, Denver, Quito, Stuttgart, Vancouver, Zagreb, Manama, Guatemala City, Cape Town, San José, Minneapolis, Santo Domingo, Seattle

Gamma world cities:
Ljubljana, Shenzhen, Perth, Kolkata, Guadalajara, Antwerp, Philadelphia, Rotterdam, Amman, Portland, Lagos

Gamma - world cities:
Detroit, Manchester, Wellington, Riga, Guayaquil, Edinburgh, Porto, San Salvador, St. Petersburg, Tallinn, Port Louis, San Diego, Islamabad, Birmingham, Doha, Calgary, Almaty, Columbus



Miami is missing in a lot of Lists on Wiki, while the little city (compaired to Miami) where I live near is everywhere in it...

pesto
September 15th, 2010, 06:56 PM
The Wikipedia article sounds like a "vanity page" or "self recognition" article. It sounds like it was posted by the authors of the survey to give the impression that what they produced is of some general significance.

In any event, I am not sure it is possible to identify a "global city" any better with the description than without.

I remember that "Alpha" list also. It was highly specialized for certain obscure purposes and has no general significance (LA tucked in between Caracas and Auckland, etc.)

Aceventura
September 15th, 2010, 10:45 PM
joshsam, Brussels is a one of a kind city and I don't think anyone will dispute it's quality and significance especially when compared to Miami. Who stated it is not possible for a global city to have only 1 million people? Brussels has been a world class and global city for several years now, and has centuries of rich history. I just don't get the comparison of the emerging new city of Miami and the established city of Brussels. It's like comparing apples to orangutans.

pesto
September 16th, 2010, 06:58 PM
Another aspect of the double counting problem. Assuming there is about as much political clout in US (DC) as in the EU (all the European cities combined), how do you allocate the government points in the EU? For example, if DC is equal to London plus Paris plus Berlin plus Madrid plus Rome plus Brussels plus, etc., politically and if it is economically larger than Brussells, how does it end up below Brussells? Same for Berlin and Vienna and Amsterdam. My guess is that the EU is double counting on political influence.

Same is not true for business; this can be reasonably easily meaured by bank clearings for the metro area or several other methods. It should be easy to get a straight-forward ranking.

I'd be interested in seeing how the Europeans would allocate the say, 100 points for government among their various cities and how they would come out against NY and DC, who presumably get most of the 100 in the US (and Chicago and LA, for that matter, which are much larger economies than most European capitals).

Anderson Geimz
September 16th, 2010, 07:56 PM
WTF are you on about "double counting problem"?

The only problem is comparing US metro areas to European cities/municipalities as so often happens especially when it comes to population or GDP. Or else the inflated US GDP (no, burning up 6 times more energy does not make you wealthier, it generates GDP though...)

There is no double counting of political power because Brussels is not equal to Washington DC in political power. If DC is 100, then London and Paris are both 80, Berlin is 70, Brussels is 70 too but on a different level, Madrid and Milan are 60, The Hague is 50 and so forth...
Are you mathemethically challenged? How would there be a finite amount of "political power" that needs to be divided between everyone?

mhays
September 16th, 2010, 08:25 PM
"Global city" is a subjective term. It doesn't have to be about economic influence. It can be about cultural influence for example.

earthJoker
September 16th, 2010, 09:29 PM
There is no double counting of political power because Brussels is not equal to Washington DC in political power. If DC is 100, then London and Paris are both 80, Berlin is 70, Brussels is 70 too but on a different level, Madrid and Milan are 60, The Hague is 50 and so forth...
Interesting, Berlin politically below Paris and London. Just because of the permanent SC seat?

pesto
September 17th, 2010, 06:46 PM
Anderson: my point exactly. If you sum up the "political influence" numbers of the European cities as you are doing, 80 + 80 + 70... and include all the capitals (plus Milan, which is not even a capital so I'm guessing Frankfurt, Munich, etc. are also included), you get a total of, say, 1000. This implies there is 10 times as much political power and influence in the EU as there is in DC. If you assume that the US and EU are about equal in political power, then the 100 that DC gets should be allocated among the various EU cities to total 100 (or alternatively, NY, LA, Chicago and some others get 50-100 each to reach the EU total of 1000).

You don't get the same problem with economic statistics because there are discreet measurements that apply uniquely to each city. Rankings there are easy to get and there is no doubling. How to weight them is a matter of opinion, of course, but the order should be clear.

btw, I understand your other comments are just an attempt to insult, without any substantive content, but still they are economic nonsense.

Otherwise, as my prior posts indicate, I agree that "global city" is vague beyond hope. And comparing Brussells to Miami is probably the least useful thing I will do today.

Zhiao
September 18th, 2010, 07:42 PM
Miami Metro has over 5.4 million people,it boasts America's 4th largest Urbanized area at 5.2 million people only behind NYC,LA,CHI!Miami-Dade County is The Country's eighth most populous County at 2.5 Million people!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami also in 2009 UBS did a study of 73 Global cities' purchasing power and wealth,MIA was The richest U.S. city(4 U.S. cities in study) and The 5th richest city in The WORLD in purchasing power!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBS_AG

That list by UBS is rediculous; they base their ranking on a pitiful sample of 14 occupuations, and completely ignoring banking sector, healthcare, education, legal, etc. Trust me, Miami is not above LA, NYC, and Chicago in wages, even in purchasing power, as Miami is expensive too.

Zhiao
September 18th, 2010, 07:44 PM
Are there many Europeans moving to Miami?

Yes, and in fact there has been a recent migration of Russians to Miami, to the extent that North Miami Beach is now "Little Russia." Go to South Beach, and many of the waitresses are Russian.

-Corey-
September 18th, 2010, 09:59 PM
That list by UBS is rediculous; they base their ranking on a pitiful sample of 14 occupuations, and completely ignoring banking sector, healthcare, education, legal, etc. Trust me, Miami is not above LA, NYC, and Chicago in wages, even in purchasing power, as Miami is expensive too.
You're right, I'm from San Diego and moved to Miami and is not even close. Miami would't even make the top 10 in the U.S. by GDP nor purchasing power.

Anderson Geimz
September 19th, 2010, 02:48 AM
Anderson: my point exactly. If you sum up the "political influence" numbers of the European cities as you are doing, 80 + 80 + 70... and include all the capitals (plus Milan, which is not even a capital so I'm guessing Frankfurt, Munich, etc. are also included), you get a total of, say, 1000. This implies there is 10 times as much political power and influence in the EU as there is in DC. If you assume that the US and EU are about equal in political power, then the 100 that DC gets should be allocated among the various EU cities to total 100 (or alternatively, NY, LA, Chicago and some others get 50-100 each to reach the EU total of 1000).

What a baffeling display of "not getting it"...

Yes the political influence of all European countries put together exceeds the political influence of the single country USA. This can be true even if the US and EU have the same amount of political influence.
Political influence is not a zero sum game...(I thought such would be obvious and that it would be appearant that there are also factors that make combinations of countries less influencial then the sum of their parts).