So which do you think, a city with a high average income and is rich!

VOTE IN THE POLL, to let me know what you think!
As a Neiman Marcus employee I want to know where Saks could be opening!

No city has the need to for a Saks Fifth Avenue.

I think Louisville is in diar need of a saks...they have no good shopping and alot of wealthy people and alot of tourists for different venues. I am glad to see you included it in this list .. telling me at least that it isnt completly hopeless. We have no shopping that is good at the moment and I see it being very feesable..(prolly spelled wrong but who the hell cares) .. aspen maybe because it is rich and touristy but I doubt people want to buy designer clothes while in a ski resort...nashville is too country in my opinion...everyone I know there would NOT shop at a saks but hell anything is possible ... milwaukee seems too midwest in thought which is the conservative target clothes type ... Memphis could support a saks as well i think because of the high debutant population....tell your higher ups to send some DAMN shopping to louisville we need it lol....and I have alot of people i know that would go and would be happy not to drive to indianapolis and cincinnati! =)

Downtown Seattle of course. Not Bellevue Square. I still haven't forgotten about that sorry Neiman Marcus thing your company opened up at Westlake. Thank god that thing closed up and left town. :wave:
That space is now occupied by a PF Chang Bistro, thank you very much.

I think Albany GA needs a Saks Fifth Avenue, also Oklahoma City needs a Virgin Music Store & I need more Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream.

Brad...you're joking about Albany, GA right? I agree that no one "needs" a Saks. Bloomingdale's...now, THAT'S a different story!

Albany GA needs a lot of things

No city has the need to for a Saks Fifth Avenue.

Why not?

No city has the need to for a Saks Fifth Avenue.

Well if not the need, then the high INCOME to sustain it!! Cities with incomes higher than $80,000 all the way to $560,000

NOT EVERY CITY IN AMERICA IS LIKE Gary, IN, Camden, NJ, and Highland Park, MI
This is a rich nation with rich people, I know I work at Neiman Marcus, people spend THOUSANDS like crazy!!!!!!!!

Why not?

I don't know about you but I don't exactly "NEED" anything they sell. BTW, Nashville is not "too country" for upscale retail. As a matter of fact, it isn't "country" at all. Suburban, yes, but what city isn't that to some degree.

... Memphis could support a saks as well i think because of the high debutant population....

Interesting you say that. When I lived in New Orleans, the downtown Saks there was reputed to be the no. 1 store in the chain for the sale of ball gowns which were also its no. 1 source of revenue. For Mardi Gras balls of course.

Interesting too that New Orleans being as poor as it is has a Saks, Brooks Brothers, has/had a Lord & Taylor, Macy's (are those two still around in the south?) all downtown.

Well if not the need, then the high INCOME to sustain it!! Cities with incomes higher than $80,000 all the way to $560,000

NOT EVERY CITY IN AMERICA IS LIKE Gary, IN, Camden, NJ, and Highland Park, MI
This is a rich nation with rich people, I know I work at Neiman Marcus, people spend THOUSANDS like crazy!!!!!!!!

Seattles' per capita income is very high, and it's a highly educated city. Lots of high end stores moved into Seattle in recent years. I've never lived in a city without Saks or Neimans. Saks would be great for downtown Seattle, just as long as its not bullcrap like that Galleries Neiman Marcus thing. That was an absolute joke to the citizens of Seattle. More high end stores are coming on 5th Avenue in the future so watch out. ;)

I have a question. Why does Anchorage or Tulsa or even Birmingham have a Saks. For that matter why does New Orleans. I dont think its that big of a deal...but I am positive that Louisville needs and will support a high end retailer. Although Mall St matthews is old, it has everything but a Saks and has a vacancy where Lord and Taylor just left. The Summit near Prospect would be another prime location for a high end retailer. I'd like to see a Saks or Neiman Marcus in the rich burbs and a Nordstrom downtown...its coming, its just a matter of which high end retailer jumps at it.

Let me make an analogy for you. When I went to school in South Bend, In (Notre Dame), they got their first Cold Stone Creamery (whereas most cities have multiple). They thought this was so cool and great and lines are there everday all the time out the door.

In the same way, Louisville just got a Hard Rock Cafe and everyone thinks this is so cool (I hate it personally) and there are lines out the door and 2 hour lunch waits.

Give us a high end retailer, and I guarantee the sales will be incredible. Its the only high end show in town besides a few boutiques that have small selections of designer clothes. Like New Orleans, we have a time of year here where a lot of money is spent on clothes, and I think some clothes would be a must have especially for women. They would stop traveling to other cities to shop. My girlfriend and her mom and all their girlfriends are the types of people that would shop there. They are spending the money...just elsewhere!

One could argue that putting high end retail in Louisville cheapens the product. I would agree..except look at some of the other dinky cities where they are located (Tulsa, B'ham, and Anchorage to name a few). So whats the difference? And if a city like Indianapolis can support one, I am positive Louisville can. I personally think Neiman Marcus should look at Louisville as well. We cannot support multiple high end stores, but a couple...DEFINITELY.

Why does Detroitboy mention that he works at Neiman's in every one of his posts? ;)

I have a question. Why does Anchorage or Tulsa or even Birmingham have a Saks. For that matter why does New Orleans. I dont think its that big of a deal...but I am positive that Louisville needs and will support a high end retailer. Although Mall St matthews is old, it has everything but a Saks and has a vacancy where Lord and Taylor just left. The Summit near Prospect would be another prime location for a high end retailer. I'd like to see a Saks or Neiman Marcus in the rich burbs and a Nordstrom downtown...its coming, its just a matter of which high end retailer jumps at it.

Let me make an analogy for you. When I went to school in South Bend, In (Notre Dame), they got their first Cold Stone Creamery (whereas most cities have multiple). They thought this was so cool and great and lines are there everday all the time out the door.

In the same way, Louisville just got a Hard Rock Cafe and everyone thinks this is so cool (I hate it personally) and there are lines out the door and 2 hour lunch waits.

Give us a high end retailer, and I guarantee the sales will be incredible. Its the only high end show in town besides a few boutiques that have small selections of designer clothes. Like New Orleans, we have a time of year here where a lot of money is spent on clothes, and I think some clothes would be a must have especially for women. They would stop traveling to other cities to shop. My girlfriend and her mom and all their girlfriends are the types of people that would shop there. They are spending the money...just elsewhere!

One could argue that putting high end retail in Louisville cheapens the product. I would agree..except look at some of the other dinky cities where they are located (Tulsa, B'ham, and Anchorage to name a few). So whats the difference? And if a city like Indianapolis can support one, I am positive Louisville can. I personally think Neiman Marcus should look at Louisville as well. We cannot support multiple high end stores, but a couple...DEFINITELY.


I totally agree, and look at the fashion for derby...very very elaborate usually. I know a TON of people that go to different cities and spend ALOT of money, including myself. I dont understand why there is no shopping here along the higher end lines.

I don't know about you but I don't exactly "NEED" anything they sell. BTW, Nashville is not "too country" for upscale retail. As a matter of fact, it isn't "country" at all. Suburban, yes, but what city isn't that to some degree.


Too Country? Oh yeah, we are the home of those millionaire musicians, song writers, producers, and execs that love to pay out thousands of dollars for a "Nudie." Why wouldn't they want a Saks? I think Nashville could support one or two higher-end department stores. I'm not saying it has to be Saks but a Nordstrom would be nice. I'm interested to see what will anchor the lifestyle centers in Green Hills and Hendersonville.

Seattle
Louisville
Memphis
Toronto (come on!)
Vancouver

You mean to tell me that Seattle doesn't have a saks? As large as it is, I would think it would have two. Hell even little old Kansas City has a saks.

1. Seattle (2 at least) downtown, renton(southcenter)
2. Louisville (mall st. mathews)
3. Nashville (cool springs galleria)
4. Milwaukee (suburbs.. not in city)
5. Memphis (galleria)

1. Seattle (2 at least) downtown, renton(southcenter)
2. Louisville (mall st. mathews)
3. Nashville (cool springs galleria)
4. Milwaukee (suburbs.. not in city)
5. Memphis (galleria)


The logical choice for Nashville would be Green Hills - not Cool Springs.

why does new orleans have a saks? why does new orleans have a lot of things that cities like louisville dont have. i see nothing wrong with new orleans having a saks. you guys must forget, there are a lot, a whole lot of rich people in new orleans , but at the same time there are a lot of poor people. this is how many cities are. like miami, atlanta, etc. many people think new orleans is the bottom of the barrel when in fact if you look at the stats we are right there with many other cities. people were just use to use being on top a long time ago, then we plunged so far, thats why people look at new orleans differently, not because we've always been at the bottom of the barrel. trust me new orleans can and will continue to support our high end retail stores that wont touch other cities.

i voted either seattle or memphis

by the way new orleans has the most profittable saks behind nyc, beverly hills, chi-town, and dc, so that would make us fifth, something many of these cities certainly couldnt achieve.

I feel so informed.

You mean to tell me that Seattle doesn't have a saks? As large as it is, I would think it would have two. Hell even little old Kansas City has a saks.

What.... Sear's isn't good enough for ya?? :jk:
We do have high end retailers here LOL. Don't forget, Nordstrom's was founded and it's flagship store is here as well.

I thought Bellevue Square had a Sak's Fifth Avenue...but I guess I was wrong. That is a bit suprising.

I doubt they would ever build one in Tukwila (Westfield Southcenter) as it isn't a real magnet for the upper end clientel, most would go the 10 miles north to Bellevue Square or into downtown Seattle.

Some Seattle high end retail:

1. Nordstrom
2. Jeri Rice
3. Escada
4. St. John
5. Louis Vitton
6. Butch Blum
7. Barney's New York
6. Coach
7. Max Mara
8. Mario's
9. Tiffany
10. Cartier
11. Brooks Brothers
12. Mont Blanc
13. Club Monaco
14. BCBG Max Azria
15. Eileen Fisher
16. French Quarter
17. St. Croix
18. Twist
19. Barcalino
20. A/X Armani Exchange
21. Cache'
22. David Lawrence
23. Lillie Rubin...........Just to name a few.

Off track but here is Saint Louis' high-end department stores and boutiques:

1 Nordstrom (West County Center)
2 Lord&Taylor (WCC and Galleria)
1 Saks (Plaza Frontneac)
1 Neimans (Plaza Frontneac)
There is also word that we may get another Nordstroms at the Galleria.
But we have Coach,Bebe,RalphLauren,Guess,Tiffanys,Cartier,Louis Vittion,Brooks Brothers,Armani,Max Mara.
Most of the smaller are in Plaza Frontneac and West County and Galleria. They are the high-end Shopping Centers. But if you want local and even chain high-end store not in malls you can go to the Central West End area or Ladue even Downtown Clayton.

Seattle doesn't have a Saks? I thought they had one already. Then I'll vote for Seattle.

Seattle or Milwaukee

Also, someone wondered why Birmingham has a Saks. Its because they are headquartered there.

I thought Nashville had a Saks at 100 Oaks (Im not kidding). However, Saks is downsizing, and might have shut it down.

Milwuakee doesnt need a saks, there is a big outlet in Milwuakee's suburb of Gurnee(Mills)(closer to Milwuakee than it is to Chicago, belive it or not). Only a half an hour drive away..

there are like 5 saks within an hour drive of Milwuakee. There are even one in Milwuakee's biggest suburb's downtown- Chicago!!!!

Saks was looking at a Downtown Seattle store before the 2001 bust.

The Galleries at Nieman Marcus store opened at exactly the wrong time, roughly 2001.

We do have a fair amount of high-end downtown retail, for a city that's so casual typically.

You mean to tell me that Seattle doesn't have a saks? As large as it is, I would think it would have two. Hell even little old Kansas City has a saks.


Kansas City doesn't have one anymore.

Omaha needs one. I know everyone thinks their city needs one but we really do. We have more millionaires per capita (behind Houston), the second richest man in the world lives here and brings about 20,000 of his followers to Omaha each year who plop down Millions in 3-4 days. Plus all of our wealthy hoods aren't all on one side of town since lots of people with money still live in the old hoods.

Plus people from here do go to (went to KC the closest) Minneapolis, and Chicago to go these places. There was a retail report that came out here a few weeks ago saying we could have one if we paid the $10M for land and a building, but the developers passed.

Just to rep Austin....We have a Saks Fifth Avenue, Nordstrom, and a Neiman Marcus under construction. Any others I am not sure of, but I know in San Marcos there are alot of high-end retailers in the outlet malls.

Definetly not San Diego we already have two, plus lots of Nordie's and a Neiman.

I selected "other", as in "none".

I don't believe that any of these cities "need" a Saks. That implies that unless Saks moves in, then these cities just aren't up to par, and I think that's nonsense.

No city needs it. Expensive crap.

closest saks to seattle is 160 miles south in Portland, OR.
i too am suprised they havent opened one up there. the portland store has been there for more than a decade.

Baltimore, by a long shot. It is by-far the wealthiest and largest city to have neither Saks or Niemans. It has one of the most stable job markets in the country and, proportionately, few cities rival the per-capita investment in Baltimore. Frommers rated it a top 10 destination for this summer, and it has been rated the #2 city for young people.

It doesn't really matter, actually, to me. The only thing I buy at Saks Fifth Avenue Downtown is Men's Cologne...they've got the best selection, IMO. They are getting ready to put a Tiffany & Co. in Canal Place and I think I'll like that shop. Brooks Brothers is known for it's suits, but, I pick up some of their casual clothes when they are having a sale. Neiman Marcus has been scouting Downtown New Orleans for the last few months from what I'm hearing...that's a high end store I always hit when I'm in Houston every year for our traditional weekend of Christmas shopping in the Galleria. I'm looking forward to an announcement of a Neiman Marcus coming to New Orleans. That will be a very good thing to have, IMO.

Phila

louisville could support saks and in my opinion needs it, but for some reason upscale dept. stores do not ushually look at louisville

Baltimore, by a long shot. It is by-far the wealthiest and largest city to have neither Saks or Niemans. It has one of the most stable job markets in the country and, proportionately, few cities rival the per-capita investment in Baltimore. Frommers rated it a top 10 destination for this summer, and it has been rated the #2 city for young people.

Baltimore is wealthiest and largest without Saks or Niemans?! Uh, Seattle doesn't have a Saks or a Niemans.

Interesting you say that. When I lived in New Orleans, the downtown Saks there was reputed to be the no. 1 store in the chain for the sale of ball gowns which were also its no. 1 source of revenue. For Mardi Gras balls of course.

Interesting too that New Orleans being as poor as it is has a Saks, Brooks Brothers, has/had a Lord & Taylor, Macy's (are those two still around in the south?) all downtown.

Most of Georgia's cities have Macy's. In fact they have been a part of the Georgia retail scene for Many years. They left briefly, (In Athens, Macon and Augusta) but were back after Richs changed. I never considered Macy's upscale though, just another department store like Dillards or Burdines. I also never really considered Saks 5th avenue that Upscale...i mean it is nice but it is not the best so i would imagine it would do well in most of those cities mentioned...I mean, Charleston SC and Birmingham AL have Saks, why not Memphis, Nashville or Louisville?

All those stores he mentioned in New Orleans are Downtown though. Along with a bunch of other "exclusive" chains.

I think though that Saks has lost its allure though and I agree with you, if they are in some areas why not Nashville/Louisville etc. I do think New Orleans is a smaller city with big city exceptions though.

Baltimore is wealthiest and largest without Saks or Niemans?! Uh, Seattle doesn't have a Saks or a Niemans.

That surprises me, with such a healthy retail situation, I would think Seattle would have one of the two. It could have something to do with the fact that Seattle has some of the boutiques directly though.

considering the fact that Saks is closing stores everywhere and tends to border on irrelevancy, who the heck needs an SFA in their town?

manhatten is in desparate need of another Saks :D

Most of Georgia's cities have Macy's. In fact they have been a part of the Georgia retail scene for Many years. They left briefly, (In Athens, Macon and Augusta) but were back after Richs changed. I never considered Macy's upscale though, just another department store like Dillards or Burdines. I also never really considered Saks 5th avenue that Upscale...i mean it is nice but it is not the best so i would imagine it would do well in most of those cities mentioned...I mean, Charleston SC and Birmingham AL have Saks, why not Memphis, Nashville or Louisville?

Isn't Saks based in Birmingham? Charleston is quite the wealthy city, at least that was my impression.

I also never really considered Saks 5th avenue that Upscale...i mean it is nice but it is not the best so i would imagine it would do well in most of those cities mentioned...I mean, Charleston SC and Birmingham AL have Saks, why not Memphis, Nashville or Louisville?

saks not upscale? i really do not care but that is a first.

considering the fact that Saks is closing stores everywhere and tends to border on irrelevancy, who the heck needs an SFA in their town?

Sure would be nice if dt Seattle got one. There were talks and even renderings of one proposed at 2nd and Pine in downtown but I guess that faded away fast.

saks not upscale? i really do not care but that is a first.

Yea it is Upscale but not on the level of Neimans or Barney's. I would put it below those but above Macys

Downtown Phoenix needs a Walgreen's. The lack of retail in that place is amazing. If you want a Saks, you can go to the Biltmore area, but that's six miles away. By the way, who cares if a suburban mall has a Saks?

Isn't Saks based in Birmingham? Charleston is quite the wealthy city, at least that was my impression.


Chareslton has that deadly combination of old money and a huge tourist base, perfect ingredients for a Saks.

Downtown Phoenix needs a Walgreen's. The lack of retail in that place is amazing. If you want a Saks, you can go to the Biltmore area, but that's six miles away. By the way, who cares if a suburban mall has a Saks?

Are you saying there's no major drugstore in all of Downtown Phoenix?!

I though every downtown had these. I went to one in Downtown Pittsburgh once. Within 1/3 mile of my office we have four big ones.

Phila

Our Saks is on city Ave. We also have a Off 5th at Franklin Mills

Louisville because apparently it has no good shopping.

Nobody "needs" a Saks. It's just a store like any other, and retail stores in particular are fading.

Louisville because apparently it has no good shopping.


An interesting comment coming from someone hailing from South Bend, IN. You guys and your one big fancy UP mall, lol. Have you been to all six Louisville malls and all its upscale boutiques (where you can find anything from Canali suits to St. John's dresses, D&G, Zegna, and Burburry purses)? Anyways, can you even get Kate Spade in South Bend?

Sure, a Saks would be nice because it would put all the nice stuff in one place, but lets face it, mid sized cities that DO have Saks have crappy ones. Compare the Saks in Indy to ANY Saks in Chicago. The lines and items they carry are very different. The more I think of it, if you want to really upscale shop you really have to go to one of 10 to 20 big cities or resort locales. Otherwise most metros over 1 million have enough of the nice brands to tide you over. They have some selection but probably not everything you want.

An interesting comment coming from someone hailing from South Bend, IN. You guys and your one big fancy UP mall, lol. Have you been to all six Louisville malls and all its upscale boutiques (where you can find anything from Canali suits to St. John's dresses, D&G, Zegna, and Burburry purses)? Anyways, can you even get Kate Spade in South Bend?

Sure, a Saks would be nice because it would put all the nice stuff in one place, but lets face it, mid sized cities that DO have Saks have crappy ones. Compare the Saks in Indy to ANY Saks in Chicago. The lines and items they carry are very different. The more I think of it, if you want to really upscale shop you really have to go to one of 10 to 20 big cities or resort locales. Otherwise most metros over 1 million have enough of the nice brands to tide you over. They have some selection but probably not everything you want.
Are you retarded? Why would I even think that South Bend would have shopping like that? I don't expect anything like that out of South Bend. South Bend doesn't need shopping like that, when I feel like buying a 200 dollar pair of jeans I take the train to Chicago...mmm k?

But hell, if Raleigh, NC can support one, I figure Louisville could. I think they could do much better with their shopping.

Besides, who needs upscale shopping when you have FASION BUG?!

Are you retarded? Why would I even think that South Bend would have shopping like that? I don't expect anything like that out of South Bend. South Bend doesn't need shopping like that, when I feel like buying a 200 dollar pair of jeans I take the train to Chicago...mmm k?

But hell, if Raleigh, NC can support one, I figure Louisville could. I think they could do much better with their shopping.

Besides, who needs upscale shopping when you have FASION BUG?!

LOL :rofl:

Atlanta does excellent in this category. Lenox Mall and Phipps Plaza (right across the street from another and both owned by Simon Malls) has like the highest concentration of Upscale stores in the south. They have A Saks, bloomingdales, Nordstrom, Gucci, Armini, Versace, Burberry, Louis Vuitton, Lord and Taylor, Neiman Marcus, and all that kinda shit. But it's all right in the middle of a place that has all the people who can afford it living within walking distance. In a place I like to call buckhead.

I think one in Savannah GA would be nice (I've never been in a Saks but I know all about clothes).

And what's so good about Macy's. I don't think it's in the same league as Saks and those kinda stores because I get my clothes from Rich's (macy's) and I know I aint rich.

The Louisville area has 4 malls and 2 of them are right next to eachother.... with duplicate stores...yeah for someone who is into shopping id say the shopping is pretty bad, but who cares.

When you say "right next to each other", are you speaking literally; or are they actually 5-10 miles away? It doesn't make sense for the same stores to open up next to where they are already located; unless they are planning on closing the older location. The only thing I have seen close to this, is when a Home Depot and Lowes are literally less than a mile apart. But, the same store?!?

^^^There's no Lord & Taylors in Atlanta anymore. One of the many states they pulled out of most of the South and the West to concentrate on the BosWash Corridor and Chicago/Detroit/St. Louis.

COLORADO -- Three stores in Denver.
CONNECTICUT -- Stores in Manchester and Meriden.
GEORGIA -- Three stores in Atlanta.
FLORIDA -- Two stores in Miami; one each in Boca Raton, Ft. Lauderdale, Orlando, Palm Beach County and Tampa.
KENTUCKY -- One store in Louisville.
LOUISIANA -- One store in New Orleans.
MARYLAND -- One store in Baltimore.
MASSACHUSETTS -- One store in Springfield and one store in North Attleboro.
NEW YORK -- One store in Albany.
NORTH CAROLINA -- One store in Raleigh.
OHIO -- One store in Columbus.
PENNSYLVANIA -- One store in Harrisburg and one store in Pittsburgh.
RHODE ISLAND -- One store in Providence.
TEXAS -- Two stores in Dallas/Fort Worth and three stores in Houston.
VIRGINIA -- One store in Norfolk.

When you say "right next to each other", are you speaking literally; or are they actually 5-10 miles away?

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In addition to a few duplicates they also have pretty much the same fare, just mixed up.

That is some truly idiotic development.

^But the anchors are at least different, Macy's, Sears, and Von Maur in one, Dillards (Women), Dillards (Men and Home) and JC Penney in another. I guess competing mall management companies are waiting to see which one will last longer. I see in Mall St. Matthews, there's a Future Tenant as an anchor. What did it used to be? Which mall was there first? One mall has the Banana Republic and Gap, and the other one has a Brooks Brothers and Express.

The empty anchor was Lord And Taylor, it was rotting for a while, then they put a halloween and x-mas store in it last holiday season which made me cringe, now they have a discount local dept store renting half of it.

St. Matthews was first, but not in its current state, I believe it was open air at one time.

The empty anchor was Lord And Taylor, it was rotting for a while, then they put a halloween and x-mas store in it last holiday season which made me cringe, now they have a discount local dept store renting half of it.

St. Matthews was first, but not in its current state, I believe it was open air at one time.

yea. it was an open air type shopping mall.. like shelbyville rd. plaza.

OH YEA.. that dawahares makes me sick(as does JCpenneys) in that mall I mean come on... Brooks Bros; ALDO; BEBE; and everything else and what could be there would be alot more happy w/out the discount stores PLEASE!

The empty anchor was Lord And Taylor, it was rotting for a while, then they put a halloween and x-mas store in it last holiday season which made me cringe, now they have a discount local dept store renting half of it.

St. Matthews was first, but not in its current state, I believe it was open air at one time.
ahh, halloween stores. :lol:

yea. it was an open air type shopping mall.. like shelbyville rd. plaza.

OH YEA.. that dawahares makes me sick(as does JCpenneys) in that mall I mean come on... Brooks Bros; ALDO; BEBE; and everything else and what could be there would be alot more happy w/out the discount stores PLEASE!

Please, it is not as bad as you guys make it out to be. Louisville has the same shopping quality as Indy, Cincy, or any other midsized city except we dont have a Saks--but you can get most if not all the Saks brands they have in Indy at Rodes (Armani, Burburry, etc).

Also, we have more than four malls. I count Greentree, Jefferson, Mall St. Matthews, Oxmoor, and the Summit. Thats five decent quality malls. You really cant count River Falls Mall as the sixth anyomore although the opening of Bass Pro Shops will help. Bashford Manor would have been our seventh mall if it was still open, and you have to remember the Shively Center since they at least have a Dillards (yeah, I know, we all hate Dillards and there are at least seven Dillards in the metro I can think of).

The frustration Louisville shoppers have is not that you cant get the upscale labels--its that you have to drive across the metro to find them. Why cant we get them all in one mall?

An interesting comment coming from someone hailing from South Bend, IN. You guys and your one big fancy UP mall, lol. Have you been to all six Louisville malls and all its upscale boutiques (where you can find anything from Canali suits to St. John's dresses, D&G, Zegna, and Burburry purses)? Anyways, can you even get Kate Spade in South Bend?

Sure, a Saks would be nice because it would put all the nice stuff in one place, but lets face it, mid sized cities that DO have Saks have crappy ones. Compare the Saks in Indy to ANY Saks in Chicago. The lines and items they carry are very different. The more I think of it, if you want to really upscale shop you really have to go to one of 10 to 20 big cities or resort locales. Otherwise most metros over 1 million have enough of the nice brands to tide you over. They have some selection but probably not everything you want.


Another example of you having no idea what you are talking about when it comes to Indianapolis!! Have you even been to Saks at the Fashion Mall? The Saks store here actually carries most everything you would find at a Chicago Saks, probably more. REASON: Chicago has numerous stores, boutiques, and options when it comes to upscale shopping whereas Indy doesn't even come close. Therefore, (and this has been published in the IBJ concerning the Indy Saks specifically, so I am not making this up as you often do) Indy's store caters to those who would normally go to Chicago to shop. You will find EVERY line, brand, and item here.

NOW, our Nordstrom though is different. Yes, it carries many upscale brands, but because it is located downtown, not as high-end as a Nordies would be on Michigan Ave or even in Carmel.

Another example of you having no idea what you are talking about when it comes to Indianapolis!! Have you even been to Saks at the Fashion Mall? The Saks store here actually carries most everything you would find at a Chicago Saks, probably more. REASON: Chicago has numerous stores, boutiques, and options when it comes to upscale shopping whereas Indy doesn't even come close. Therefore, (and this has been published in the IBJ concerning the Indy Saks specifically, so I am not making this up as you often do) Indy's store caters to those who would normally go to Chicago to shop. You will find EVERY line, brand, and item here.

NOW, our Nordstrom though is different. Yes, it carries many upscale brands, but because it is located downtown, not as high-end as a Nordies would be on Michigan Ave or even in Carmel.


Hmmm, tell me where the great selection of Christian Dior is at the Indy Saks?? Indy will get shoes of an upscale brand where Chicago will get a $3000 suit or dress in that label. Please, you are telling me that Saks Indy is the same as Saks Michigan avenue? HAHAHA. I wont even argue with you, but please Chicago forumers speak up, because this is pretty funny. Maybe all Louisville and hell even IN, OH, KY, and MO people should come to Indy instead of going to Chicago to shop! I guess your Saks is better than STL or Cincy too? Honestly, think about what you said there cwilson.

Honestly, I lived in Indy for almost a year, know it well, and have been to that Saks several times. I also lived in Chicago for part of last year and it IN NO WAY compares to any Saks in Chicago.

Why don't you stop being an effing know-it-all when have no clue what you are talking about. Di you even read?? Now you lived in Indy for a year....a while back it was two months that you lived here! Make up your mind. You probably didn't even live here when the damn thing opend. My god, you must be at least in your 30's based on how much time you have lived elsewhere besides Louisville. However, you are young puppy, at least based on that lovely Courier-Journal caption of you when you were trying to convince your "city" to build a stadium.

Anyway, just within the past year, there was a lengthy article in the Indianapolis Business Journal (and was duplicated in the Star) specifically about the Indy Saks store and how it is meant to compete with the level of stores in Chicago. If you look through the Indy Dev thread, you will find the damn thing! Was the article wrong, since you seem to be the "all-knowing know-it-all?" It went on to state that they are catering to those customers from the area that would normally buy their items in Chicago and had picture of some woman holding a $800.00 pair of Manolo's. You can get suits for $3000 and yes, the Indy Saks p*ssess all over the one in Cincy.

Get a life and stop being so envious of Indianapolis. It's bordering on obsession.

nevermind. :wallbash:

Im kinda bored...I mean really. I know Gych that your ex lived in indy and you stayed there a few months now that has turned into a year, but its really not that exciting anymore. Why dont you pick on Nashville for a while.

Why don't you stop being an effing know-it-all when have no clue what you are talking about. Di you even read?? Now you lived in Indy for a year....a while back it was two months that you lived here! Make up your mind. You probably didn't even live here when the damn thing opend. My god, you must be at least in your 30's based on how much time you have lived elsewhere besides Louisville. However, you are young puppy, at least based on that lovely Courier-Journal caption of you when you were trying to convince your "city" to build a stadium.

Anyway, just within the past year, there was a lengthy article in the Indianapolis Business Journal (and was duplicated in the Star) specifically about the Indy Saks store and how it is meant to compete with the level of stores in Chicago. If you look through the Indy Dev thread, you will find the damn thing! Was the article wrong, since you seem to be the "all-knowing know-it-all?" It went on to state that they are catering to those customers from the area that would normally buy their items in Chicago and had picture of some woman holding a $800.00 pair of Manolo's. You can get suits for $3000 and yes, the Indy Saks p*ssess all over the one in Cincy.

Get a life and stop being so envious of Indianapolis. It's bordering on obsession.


Dude chill out...I like Indy. Just dont play it up to be as big as you do. All I know is the Saks in Indy is not as good as any in Chicago--I dont doubt any would disagree unless they were deranged Indy boosters. Thats not a shot at Indy--its freaking Chicago we are talking about.


Also, what makes you think you know who I am or what I do, or how old I am? Seems to me that you are a know it all, and you are ALWAYS taking shots at Louisville (that little "town" or dump on the river, or wannabe "city" as you imply.) Seems like someone else is jealous, or at least worried?

Jealous of Indy? Ha, seems you are trying to read our local periodical and figure out shit! I could care less what happens in Indy (certainly not enough to read the Indy Star), honestly. Indy is a completely different city than what I like. If I had to live in Indiana, I would live in Bloomington. But that alternative, liberal thing is just more my scene, and I guess I didnt get that vibe as much in Indy.

In reality, as much as cities like Indy, Louisville, and Cincy THINK they are rivals, they are really not. More business and attention moving to THIS part of the country is good for every city in the region. Our real competition is the Sunbelt, so dont turn this into a big deal when its not. But I can tell you what, you take shots at me and my city, I will take shots right back at you guy. (And you still havent taken up my offer to get an insider's tour of Louisville.)

God, I think id like the insiders tour, but I was never offered :-/ Could I co-sign onto his? Even though I live here I think I am missing something big that you see, I would love to see Louisville in your eyes, hope you knew I was playing down below by the way. . .

what Schris? Playing down below? Well, whatever that means. But yeah, I could give you the insiders tour. I am guessing there are many streets and areas you have never seen before. In fact, I would like to organize a tour of Indy, Cincy, and Louisville. Each city could learn a lot from the other.

you would be surprised to know that I read all the papers from across the region..Trib, C-J, Star, Enq., etc

well, good for you...I read the Chicago Tribune and The NY Times occassionally, but other than that nothin. Still havent responded to my offer?