View Full Version : Best/Worst highways you ever driven on?


LtBk
July 31st, 2004, 09:27 PM
In terms of road conditions, the drivers, traffic etc.
Best: Autobahn
Worst: Interstate 405, 5, 495

Rapid
July 31st, 2004, 09:54 PM
Not the highway master, but I guess some of the Interstates in the US Midwest are shitt

vid
July 31st, 2004, 10:06 PM
The Transcanada Highway 11/17 from Subury to Winnipeg is 2 lanes and full og potholes, except of a 12kilometre stretch through Thunder Bay.

FM 2258
July 31st, 2004, 11:29 PM
Interstate 95 from New York to New Haven, Connecticut has to be the worst. Plus I had to pay toll for the bumpiest ride ever. The speed limit was 40 and everyone was doing 80, but at 65 it felt like you would get thrown off the "freeway", if you wanna call it that.

The Best highway I've driven on has to be U.S. 75 near downtown Dallas. Best looking freeway ever.

matthew_p2004
August 1st, 2004, 06:06 AM
Some of the worst interstates I think are in Charlotte. There is ALWAYS construction going on messing up the traffic, and when they finally get finished with the work, there aren't even enough lanes.

Going on 90 into Boston was pretty bad too, but since the big dig, I think that shouldn't be as congested.



I think 75 south going into Cincinnati is a great highway now. Since the construction is done, the interstate is smooth to ride on and isn't confusing anymore about the exits near the downtown.

Kölner
August 1st, 2004, 06:17 AM
The best highways there is is the Autobahn in Germany.
The best part of it is that there is no speed limit, so you don't have to worry about getting a ticket :)

OhmehawJ
August 1st, 2004, 06:40 AM
The worst:
Boston I-90 (Massachusetts Turnpike); I-93/U.S. 1
Chicago I-80; I-294 (Tri-state Tollway)
Des Moines IA, USA I-235
Los Angeles I-5 (Santa Ana Fwy); I-10 (Santa Monica Fwy); I-405 (San Diego Fwy); U.S. 101 (Hollywood Fwy)
Toronto Queen Elizabeth Way

The best:
Toronto Highway 401 (MacDonald-Cartier Fwy)
Omaha NE, USA I-80

greg_christine
August 1st, 2004, 07:18 AM
Worst Interstate:
I64 through Hampton and Newport News, Virginia. I have lived in this area for almost 20 years. During that time, there has never been a moment when some section of I64 wasn't torn up somewhere in those two cities.

Best Interstate:
Choose any interstate that was recently opened. The road is smooth and traffic congestion is not a problem. Right now, I295 on the east side of Richmond is fantastic. I'm sure that strip malls and housing developments will be built around each interchange during the next decade and traffic will slow to a crawl.

zergcerebrates
August 1st, 2004, 01:40 PM
Worst freeway, 110 near Pasadena,Calif.

Macca-GC
August 1st, 2004, 01:48 PM
Best: M1 Pacific Motorway from Logan Motorway to Pappas Way
Worst: M1 Pacific Motorway from Pappas Way to Burringbar By-pass

Nephasto
August 1st, 2004, 03:36 PM
Best, probably A8 and A9 in the south of France.

Worst.... don't know...

CborG
August 1st, 2004, 08:56 PM
no bad highways here in holland except for some old parts. (which are renewed right now)

nithin
August 1st, 2004, 09:18 PM
no bad highways here in holland except for some old parts. (which are renewed right now)

yeahh in holland roads are just perfect :)

Leienaar
August 1st, 2004, 10:09 PM
I disagree with CborG, but I see what he means.

The problem with the roads in the Netherlands is normally not in the quality of the road itself, but in the capacity that is just too low. 2x2 lanes does not work for major arteries in a country with high population density and lots of cities at close distance. On top of that, we have a lot of maniacs on the road, so car crashes blocking the highways are not uncommon.

Vertigo
August 1st, 2004, 10:59 PM
@Leienaar: well, accident rates in the Netherlands are fairly low compared to many other countries.

Capacity is indeed lacking, but that's unavoidable regarding the high population density in the Netherlands. You could double the capacity and still have congestion.

Michelle Harvey
August 2nd, 2004, 01:03 AM
Parts of Asia, Taxi Drivers and Tour Buses in particular, the following applies on all roads not just highways. Firstly as a passenger you are better off not looking out the front window esp. when overtaking on blind corners, pulling out to overtake vehicles (playing cat and mouse with oncoming cars), the ability of motorists to create additional traffic lanes on an already constrained road or swerving at high speeds to miss an ox or cow that just happens to wandering out of the jungle - no fencing to prevent any herd wandering on to highways/roads.

samsonyuen
August 2nd, 2004, 07:27 AM
Best: Hwy 407 in Southern Ontario. It's worth paying tolls for!
Worst: Highway 401 in Southern Ontario! It's bumper-to-bumper!

turboskyline
August 2nd, 2004, 09:51 AM
The best:
Toronto Highway 401 (MacDonald-Cartier Fwy)
Omaha NE, USA I-80

How exactly do you figure the 401 is the best?

Ćsahćttr
August 2nd, 2004, 07:56 PM
I can't drive yet, but I get an Idea...

Best:

STAR expressway in Manila, Phillippines ... no speed limit like the autobahn. :)

I-80 in Nebsraska

Worst:

EDSA in Manila, Phillippines ... random dog or chicken from the butcher all over the lanes, slow underpowered diesel vans all over the place

I-94/90 Minneapolis to Chicago ... pothole mania

r2
August 2nd, 2004, 08:28 PM
the freeway network in new orleans is pathetic in layout, capacity and maintenance. the freeway network in orlando makes little or no sense, rendering crosstown travel a confusing and lengthy mixture of local roads and freeway. i-95 from richmond on is a nightmare of construction zones, extreme over-capacity, old design in areas that havent been reconstructed, poor maintenance due to the extreme climate and overcapacity. atlanta freeways and highways in georgia in general are awesome. the indiana toll road is nice with newly rebuilt rest areas etc. i-66 inside the dc beltway looks like a future highway with the metro running down the median and several segments capped over or depressed beneath new-urbanist developments. all of the freeways in the district of columbia are just plain confusing (if they actually do go anywhere ie the whitehurst frwy) under perpetual reconstruction or in desperate need of said perpetual reconstruction. the freeways in the pittsburgh region will induce vertigo in flatlanders (read me) due to the extreme terrain in that area. minneapolis freeways are nice. most beautiful goes to i-90 as it crosses lake washington in the seattle area ... looks downright futuristic as it crosses mercer island and the native american totem pole carved into the face of the mountain as the freeway tunnels through to downtown seattle is just plain cool. atlanta area interchanges are HUGE. dc area PARKWAYS are beautiful, offering fantastic vistas and a more relaxed rate of travel. looking at the map of charlotte it seems like the region is missing a freeway or two ... for instance there is no eastern or southeastern radial route ... no wonder the traffic sucks. virginian highways suck ... not because they are in bad shape so much as VDOT literally takes thirty years to build a highway and when it finally does the road is so over capacity that it is almost immediately tore up and reconstructed ... then repeat process. The I-395 and I-95 stack high rise viaducts in downtown baltimore are cool as shit.

OhmehawJ
August 2nd, 2004, 08:57 PM
How exactly do you figure the 401 is the best?
The 401 corridors which are divided between express and local movements were running incredibly smoothly when I was in Toronto. I suppose I should have been more specific? Traffic-wise, other parts of 401 were a nightmare. I still thought it was better kept than the Gardiner Expressway and the QEW, either way. ;)

I'll take I-80 any day though. Only a 20 minute drive to downtown, without the headaches of traffic.

Phlip
August 3rd, 2004, 12:40 AM
In Australia, the challenges are very different to (saY) Europe, as we face vast distances and very low population once you get away from the coastal fringe where all the cities are. One of my favourites is the Stuart Hwy crossing the country north-south (NH87) across the desert and into the tropics. The stretch from Port Augusta to Katherine is 2,404 kms with only three towns along the way, and a handful of roadhouses for fuel and supplies. It is only single lane either way but wide and flat and great driving with very little traffic. The "Northern Territory" is the only section of Australia where there are no speed limits on the open road.

burnsinator
August 4th, 2004, 02:21 AM
I-93 through Boston is horrible, unless your in the carpool lane in rush hour. The big dig has made vast improvements, but it can still be rough. I-95/RT 128 (metro Boston) is tough, it winds a lot throught the suburbs and it's only 3-4 lanes. I-91 (past Hartford, CT) to I-95 through NYC to GW Bridge is always congested, but thats due to very high population density (metro NYC) 3-4 lanes and lots of construction. Try not to get caught in the rain either, especially during the construction. Once, going from Boston to NYC (a 3 hour drive) it took me 9 hours during a downpour. 495 outside DC is bad. I-5 (3-4 lanes, the oldest highway in L.A.), I-405 (5-6 lanes, always a parking lot, heaviest congestion is from RT 101 south to LAX, no matter what time of day) I-10 and RT 101 in the San Fernando Valley (Los Angeles) are the most disgusting highways I've ever driven. And if it rains in L.A., forget about it, 700 accidents happen in a matter of minutes. People here have no clue how to drive in the rain. At least in Boston to NYC and in those cities, there is always an alternante way to get around (public transportation, trains etc) I've lived in these 3 cities and have traveled across the country 3 times, so I've driven a lot of highways. NJ turnpike is pretty good, they have the local and express lanes, but there can be traffic. I-94 through Chicago (right outside city core) is congested a lot. Also I-15 from metro L.A. to Las Vegas is real bad, 3-2 lanes with thousands of people going to Vegas to gamble every weekend.

Toggie
August 4th, 2004, 06:04 AM
I can't drive yet, but I get an Idea...

Best:

STAR expressway in Manila, Phillippines ... no speed limit like the autobahn. :)

I-80 in Nebsraska

Worst:

EDSA in Manila, Phillippines ... random dog or chicken from the butcher all over the lanes, slow underpowered diesel vans all over the place

I-94/90 Minneapolis to Chicago ... pothole mania
90/94 seems to be U/C every year.

Jo
August 10th, 2004, 01:59 AM
Parts of Asia, Taxi Drivers and Tour Buses in particular, the following applies on all roads not just highways. Firstly as a passenger you are better off not looking out the front window esp. when overtaking on blind corners, pulling out to overtake vehicles (playing cat and mouse with oncoming cars), the ability of motorists to create additional traffic lanes on an already constrained road or swerving at high speeds to miss an ox or cow that just happens to wandering out of the jungle - no fencing to prevent any herd wandering on to highways/roads.
I agree, at least with the overtaking thingy in my experience :D

Also, on the road between Saigon and Hanoi it seems to be customary to honk the horn when you meet a car. Same thing in the night... I don't need to mention how annoying it is.

National highway 1 in Cambodia. Among the better highways in the country but some parts might still be dirt road, and the rest of it has tons of potholes! The roadside is probably cleared from landmines by now I guess.

Hope I didn't upset anyone. These highways also have some very beautiful scenery and there are other highways in the region that are really really good.

London_2006
August 10th, 2004, 02:29 PM
Worst: M25 in rush hour
Best: I-4 in Orlando, Florida. It's so empty.

kucksi
August 10th, 2004, 09:28 PM
and what about the scenic view ? :)
i like the A23 freeway from villach to udine , its really beautiful :)

DrJoe
August 10th, 2004, 09:57 PM
Best:
401 when not busy...big, simple and straight

Worst:
401 when busy...you might aswell walk
Anything in Quebec, bumps, confusing, very inconsistent

federal
August 12th, 2004, 08:59 AM
good :

-C5 North and C5 South which traverses the metropolitan manila area
-SLEX NB/SB Skyway section good but too short! only about 9 miles! whole stretch should be around 20 miles
-NLEX newly upgraded. NB and SB perfect.

bad
-EDSA NB/SB
-SLEX NB/SB
-I101 N especially at downtown area. really congested
-I15.... add more lanes to vegas baby!
-I605 S really congested....

benji45
August 12th, 2004, 10:03 AM
Ok, the worst freeway
I-5, Seattle to LA
Trans Canada Highway, Chilliwack to Vancouver, (4 lanes, bumper to bumper.)

Best
Coquihalla Highway Hope BC to Kamloops BC. This is a beautiful highway, you are up in the mountains looking down on green valleys and looking up at snow capped mountains and glaciers! Its beautiful.

stanford
August 12th, 2004, 09:49 PM
bad in terms of condition or what mood it put you in while driving on it...

well anyways.. going on mood.. german autobahns are great.. japanese highways are pretty good too... i-93 in boston gets me cranky.. but when driving on it everyday.. you get accustomed to the pain.. its slightly better now i suppose

The Chemist
August 13th, 2004, 06:39 PM
Best:

Alberta Highway 2 - Calgary to Edmonton; quite busy, but very fast
TransCanada Highway - Calgary to Banff
Coquilhalla Highway - Kamloops to Hope, BC

Worst:
TransCanada Highway - Lake Louise, AB, to Golden, BC

GetOnDaTrain
August 20th, 2004, 07:57 PM
The best:
-I-75 from Georgia State Line to Florida Turnpike Split. Six lanes all the way 150 miles so that traffic doesn't back up so much when people want to go to Disney World.
-US 59 Houston. Twelve lanes and a HOV, most busiest though, but no real problems.
-I-5 between LA and Stockton. Better route to go to San Francisco (not directly) than the windy 101. Also faster and better to go 400 miles to Sacramento because Highway 99 cuts through a bunch of cities and towns.
-I-10 between Palm Springs and Phoenix. The Loneliest Interstate 500 miles, but makes for a peaceful drive through the Mojave Desert, with few towns to cut through.

The worst:
-I-75/85 Downtown Connector in Atlanta. When both interstates meet they balloon to twelve lanes north into downtown, then a whopping 16 lanes through Midtown! If you think it is smmoth sailing, you're wrong. It is how both Interstates dip in on left or right that is bad. I-85 Northbound dips into 75 on the right, but you have to cross 4 lanes to get on 85 on the left toward Greenville. Southbound 85 dips into 75 on the left, then you have to cross 4 lanes to stay on 85 towards Hartsfield Jackson Airport. Such traffic shuffling, I have heard, is dangerous and accident-prone.
-I-10 Katy Freeway, Houston. West of Loop 610 in West Houston, it was built in the 60s, with 6 lanes, and still is today! TXDot did nothing to widen it in the 80s and 90s while the rest of the freeway system was revamped. Traffic delays are so bad since the Energy Corridor runs along it 15 miles. Expect freeway expansion sometime by the end of this year.
-I-10 San Bernardino Fwy, LA. The worst of all the traffic choking freeways in LA Metro.

runningncircles1
August 21st, 2004, 11:23 PM
Best: I-75 going to 75/85 in ATL, when there is no traffic(12-18 lanes and generally, you can go as fast as you want... police don't care)

I-10 From New Orleans to Pensacola

Worst: 75/85 w/ traffic; Speghetti junction (where 285 and 85 intersect); most freeways around ATL at peak hours

Although, as I said before, you can drive as fast as you want as long as it isn't faster than traffic(which on average is like 80-85 mi/hr, the fastest in the US).

Triumph Speed3
August 23rd, 2004, 10:30 PM
Karakoram Highway in Pakistanthe, worst and the best at the same time.
Grand Trunk Road in India, the worst, but really awesome experience.

angeladevi
August 23rd, 2004, 10:50 PM
The worst experience is 'black saturday' in Europe when the whole continent is on the move to or from their holiday destinations. Especially the roads to the south. Hundreds of kilometers traffic jams, accidents ,high temperatures. This is real mayhem.

portlandexpos04
August 23rd, 2004, 11:20 PM
Worst:

US Hwy. 26 (Sunset Hwy) west of Portland, Oregon.

the curves, the endless construction that never seems to accomplish anything, the bottlenecks, the slow drivers who brake a lot going downhill on top of level of service F congestion, thereby causing a dangerous situation... the up and downhill stretches. ugh.

xePh3roK
August 23rd, 2004, 11:49 PM
If you drive with the car on the Highway in Hong Kong from Tsuen Wan to Hong Kong Island, then you can see the pretty skyline of HK in front of you :)

Worst?
Hmm, let me think ^^
can't rembmer XD

CanadianCentaur
August 24th, 2004, 12:40 AM
Best highways:

Highway 2 between Edmonton and Calgary - busy, but fast and in generally good condition even when bypassing Red Deer (pop 72,000).

The Coquihalla between Kamloops and Hope - nice mountains and canyons, especially between the toll booth and Hope.

The Yellowhead from Hinton to Valemount through Jasper National Park - VERY scenic! :D While the speed limit is a little low, at 90 km/h (56 mph) due to the winding nature of the highway and wildlife and that people are likely to get distracted by the scenery and wildlife, the scenery itself more than makes up for that.

The Icefields Parkway (Hwy 93) between Jasper and Banff - also very scenic with all those mountains and wild life and the Athabasca Glacier.

Worst highways:

The Trans-Canada from Hope to Vancouver - traffic can be really, really bad, often due to accidents, rush hour traffic or construction. I've seen traffic get backed up several kilometres on that stretch.

Highway 43 (Edmonton-Grande Prairie) between Gunn and just east of Whitecourt - this where they should've twinned the damn highway first, for traffic will get REALLY backed up convoy-style on that 2-lane stretch. Despite the entire stretch of Highway 43 to the BC/Alberta border being twinned to 4-lane divided, traffic doesn't slow down that much outside that stretch.

Highway 43 was a dangerous highway even before the twinning began. Wild animals like moose and deer are not uncommon there, lots of huge trucks, especially logging trucks, frequently use that highway and local people often don't give a shit about the speed limit due to the distances between towns and cities. (Grande Prairie is 465 km from Edmonton, or a 4.5 hour drive) Not surprisingly, many terrible accidents have occured, including a gasoline truck driver who got killed when he slammed head on into a Greyhound bus full of passengers in the middle of the night years ago. The bus driver was killed, too. An RCMP investigation later found that the truck driver had been drinking just before he started driving.

The speed limit on Hwy 43 is up to 110 km/h (68 mph), but most people will often go up to 140 km/h (87 mph) - and sometimes even higher. I've seen people go as fast as up to near 170 km/h (106 mph), and did once see a Camaro zip by on the WRONG side of a 2-lane stretch on a large BRIDGE east of Grande Prairie at near 185 km/h (115 mph).

PegRules04
August 30th, 2004, 12:09 AM
The Transcanada Highway 11/17 from Subury to Winnipeg is 2 lanes and full og potholes, except of a 12kilometre stretch through Thunder Bay.

It's two lanes in Ontario, but is four just after you enter Manitoba.

entropy
August 30th, 2004, 12:28 AM
I neither have a car or know how to drive (even though I'm of the legal driving age) - but OMG, I seriously have an almost sexual passion for being on a road trip given the right type of surroundings, though I've only been a passenger on a bus or car. Which is, sadly, one piece of the pie that I feel missing in my stays on SSC, SSP, etc. - everybody seems to be so pro-transit, and in some peoples' cases, stuck up, to the point that you're a McDonald's eating "lemming" for driving cars in a suburban thread, yet these people change their mind when they get to post pics of their Lexuses. :|

I personally don't really care about fine, sexy Ferraris or anything, but like many of you I love to see society as it is - barren open landscapes, small backwater farming towns, gritty industrial 'hoods, and downtowns laden with skyscrapers - all in one mix, with highway signs and ever changing roads being the glue itself. To me that's something that flying on an airplane, taking you from A to B, doesn't capture - you can get to peek at some sweet aerials, yes, but overall it just doesn't feel so "complete".

Anyways, having lived in Ontario, Canada for the last 5 years (and with little travel experience, unfortunately) I really got to admit that there's little excitement in driving Ontarian highways - repetitive blocks of farmland seperated by "concession roads" in rural areas, regular 2km exits surrounded by strip office parks on the QEW, even our widest highway (the 401) is pretty typical. I admit Ontario's system is one of the easiest to navigate around, but it doesn't give you a sense of adventure.

entropy
August 30th, 2004, 12:51 AM
Some of the highways that I liked however were:

I-95 going from approx. Chester to Philadelphia - after seeing it to the best of my ability on a bus I was absolutely stunned by the introduction it gave me to the city and it could very well be the most enjoyable road section I've ever seen. The massive industrial grit of the port, viewable by the high elevation of the expressway, makes the city feel so "hardcore", while passing under the Whitman/Franklin bridges reminds you of the American industrial ingenuity that built the city. There's so many sights on both sides of you - triple stadiums grouped together on your left, a naval base with retired carriers on your right, and the Philly skyline peeking between the layers of the Whitman bridge.

A-20 in Quebec - IMO the most "classic" Canadian freeway that I've seen (that is, I haven't seen them in western Canada yet) with a feeling that, well, I can't quite describe - but it contrasts the landscape and culture of Quebec so beautifully. It connects everything from the view of the St. Lawrence and the mountains beyond, to the Montreal skyline; from the strip clubs that have become the landmarks of small town Quebec to the forested luxury homes of the West Island. The road itself is often pretty bumpy but is an adventure to drive and figure out around Montreal, at least by Canadian standards.

Hwy. 2 in New Brunswick - great views of the Saint John river and the lush farms that surround it, despite being a partial freeway you get to feel the rural Maritimes around you.

Highway from Halifax to beyond Peggy's Cove - forget what the name of the town that it ends in is called, but it was a great road to drive with its curves and "blind" sections, where the road dips down but you can't see it.

Highway from Lamar, PA to (I think it's Marystown, or something like that, I forget) - forget name of road and is probably pretty common around PA, but I remember riding with a pissed off bus driver (the road was too narrow for a bus to drive on well) on this one which basically twisted deep in the Pennsylvanian hills, plenty of low angle curves and a stunning forest view, with a creek running right beside you.

Highway from I-40 to Smoky Mtns, NC - I again forget what the number of the highway was :( , but this highway ran right on the side of a mountain with no shoulders, and was the only time I've seen a road in which you could practically fall off the cliff if you weren't an experienced driver. Also saw great views of depressed, run-down wooden homes in the Cherokee Indian Reservation.

Nick
August 31st, 2004, 08:35 AM
For me.

The Worst

The meishin expressway between Osaka and Kyoto.The distance is only 30km but for most of the day and on Saturdays it just one big car park.Luckly for me I just zip through the traffic on the Suzuki Skywave.

The Best.

The expressway up to Nigata from Osaka.It follows the Japan sea and skirts in and out along the ruggerd coastline through tunnels and Viaducts that shoot out into the sea.Its like something out of a James bond film

indian
September 1st, 2004, 07:02 PM
The best
Toronto 401
Ahmadabad Baroda NH-7

The worst
Surat Baroda

charlotteguy
September 1st, 2004, 07:26 PM
Worst - Brooklyn-Queens Expressway, NYC (I-287)

crazyjoeda
September 17th, 2004, 10:34 PM
TransCanada Langley To Vancouver always very very bad. U could walk faster. I drive on the streets and then merg on at an exit close to the bridge. But you still wait in traffic most of the time you could walk faster.
http://vancouver.cbc.ca/gfx/Vancouver/photos/040623_hwyMap.jpg

Nick
September 18th, 2004, 08:55 AM
Does Vancover have bad traffic?

I find that hard to believe in a city of only 1.7 million

smeghead
September 18th, 2004, 12:56 PM
Vancouver has an intentional policy of creating/allowing traffic congestion to occur on approaches into the city in order to avoid gridlock in the CBD/downtown, and to encourage cycling, walking & transit.

doogerz
September 28th, 2004, 03:33 AM
Best: Trans-Canada Highway from Edmundston, NB to Grand Falls, NB & Fredericton, NB to Amherst, NS.
Worst: A40 in Montreal & anything else in Quebec

Justme
September 28th, 2004, 04:04 PM
The Best: In general the French Tollways. Year, you gotta pay, but you really get your money’s worth and never get a jam.

The Coolest: The autostrada’s in France and Italy following the Med. Never ending tunnels and high bridges with stunning views of the sea. It simply cannot be beat for scenary and the shear coolness, very’s “Bondish”

The Weirdest: The Autostrada between Milan and Genoa, especially at the Genoa end. Seems to intertwine and bend like a video game, incredible curves for a freeway and terribly fun to drive.

The most fun: The German autobahns, for obvious reasons, as long as the traffic is not too bad.

The worst: Sydney to Brisbane. The freeway ends shortly after Sydney and you have a windy country road to Queensland. At least, it used to be like that. But it does have a really cool section in the National Park just north of Sydney.

gruber
September 28th, 2004, 04:27 PM
worst:
Milano-Genova (is the 3° oldest in the world, built in the 30's after the Milano-Laghi and the Milano-Torino, but from 15 years there's a parallel highway with 8 lanes totally very, very good).

Salerno-Reggio Calabria (in the third world there are better highway. now is under reconstruction)

some Highways in old East Germany

the old Zagreb-Lubljana in formerly Jugoslavja...terrible conditions.

the most part of LA Highways....crazy traffic

the Grande Raccordo Anulare in Rome with a panic traffic

but the number one is the Road number 1 in Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi....
also the old Ring Road in Iceland was terrible in some areas. runs IN the rivers, no asphalt...today friends told me that is ok.

better:
some in Usa, outside great cities, some in Spain where there is not traffic (the Barcelona Zaragoza was good)....

glickel
September 28th, 2004, 06:24 PM
Worst:
Anything in New York City - especailly 278-BQE
Old I-93 Central Artery in Boston
I-76 in between Pittsburg and Philly - aviod at all costs

Best:
New I-93 tunnel through Boston - expensive but badly needed and worth it
I-80 through the Rocky and Sierra Mountains - beautiful country

Cymen
September 30th, 2004, 12:08 AM
road conditions: Undoubtly the Netherlands!
the drivers: On the Autobahn(Germany) :)
traffic: Don´t really know about this one, I think german drivers keep good distance in traffic so it always keeps rolling. But on some places too much traffic can come up, that just sucks.
The French tollways do have alot of traffic when Im driving there, so they suck too ;) I cant really say.

De Snor
October 1st, 2004, 08:57 PM
the worst : the highway from Montreal to Québec => a nightmare !

the best : A roads in France & Germany & Spain

lindenthaler
October 1st, 2004, 09:15 PM
the worst:
motorway belgrade-novi sad (currently it s under reconstruction)

the best:
autobahns + holandese highways

Homer J. Simpson
October 1st, 2004, 09:27 PM
In and around Toronto:
Best: 407
Bad: 401 & Don Valley Parkway (aka Don Valley Parkinglot)
Worst: Gardner Expressway/Queen E Way

Thomas I
October 5th, 2004, 04:37 AM
The best:
- A27 from Bremen to Walsrode, Germany - my favorite test-road for new cars. No speed limit, neraly no traffic.
- Expressway Pyongyang - Nampo, North Korea: 8 lanes each direction but undivided highway - no traffic (one car all 15 minutes...) - you can drive over all 16 lanes WITHOUT any speed limit.

The worst

- A3 Napoli - Salerno, Italia, Motorway from the 1920's....
- S8,S1 Expressway Warszawa - Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland
- A4 Motorway A12 - Wroclaw , Poland before renovation withe the original beton from the´1930's (former German Reichsautobahn).

benji45
October 5th, 2004, 04:46 AM
Does Vancover have bad traffic?

I find that hard to believe in a city of only 1.7 million
Vancouver has 2.2 million and yes the traffic is a bitch.

Mongo8780
October 11th, 2004, 08:17 AM
In terms of road conditions, the drivers, traffic etc.
Best: Autobahn
Worst: Interstate 405, 5, 495

There are a few 405's. Which do you mean?

DamnSmiley
October 11th, 2004, 11:19 AM
I am amazed that some people posted that the Highway 401 is the best Highway in Toronto, Ontario area (GTA).

It is a total nightmare only until in the late night. From 5AM to 8PM it is a nightmare from the east-end to the west-end. The highway is HUGE (up to 16 lanes in some spots) with collectors and express lanes. It carries (I heard) up to 600,000+ cars in certain areas a day. If there is one accident, Toronto STOPS - Literally. Anyone who lives here knows this. I heard it is North America's busiest/most travelled highway.

Highway 407 is the newest east/west route through the north of the GTA. It is the LARGEST RIPOFF in North America for tolls. No joke. If you are a US driver, have fun and drive the full length as the electronic tolls do not affect you. There is no jursidiction for the Corporation to collect from you as you are not an Ontario resident. Super-quick road - cause no one drives it. Only Ontario drivers get jammed with the fees which I won't even get into. It is a private Expressway owned by a greedy Corporation. I recommend if you are from Ontario - Don't drive on it - Its the principle of it!

The Don Valley Parkway (Parking Lot) is one brutal road if you need to get downtown. It spans from Highway 401 south to the Gardiner Expressway. That road is actually "more evil" than even the 401. It is always busy. Literally, there are traffic jams from early day to late night. And always in the summer, they close it and the Gardiner Expressway to do roadwork. So of course, the city is totally screwed up for the weekend as all the major arterial roads are jammed.

The Gardiner Expressway is the southern-portion of the city that runs east-west. It is elevated in the downtown area and it is in my opinion - UGLY. Always jammed but not as "evil" as the Don Valley Parkway.

The problem in Toronto is that years ago in the 60's and 70's, there was plenty of opportunity to build new expressways in the city as it was not as large as it is today. Unfortunately all of the "tree-huggers" back in those days did not want an expressway in their backyard. They fought hard and vigorously.

We even have an expressway (Sorta) called the Allen Road. The name was originally called the Spadina Expressway and then changed it to the Allen Expressway. Expressway was a "bad word" so they later named it the Allen Road. What a joke!!! It is about 5 to 6 km running north/south crossing Highway 401 to Eglinton Avenue to the south and Sheppard Avenue to the North. I call it the Expressway to nowhere! An Expressway that was nixxed by the "tree-huggers" of the day. What a waste.

Now that the GTA is about 5 million, we are suffering the serious cost of not building any more roads.

If the government does not do something soon, Toronto traffic will be totally impossible to get around. It is very serious here. Kinda like Boston before the "Big Dig". Unfortunately, where are they going to put an expressway? Maybe a hydro corridor - that's about it.

Transit is difficult, especially in the north part of the city as the subway just takes too long and goes nowhere. Toronto is a typical urban sprawl and it is really spread-out.

I live in the east-end of the GTA. I have been experimenting taking the new Sheppard Subway from Don Mills to the Yonge Line and then south to downtown. What a stress-free relaxing ride! It takes about 35 to 40 minutes to get downtown without the hassles of the Don Valley Parking Lot.

Any comments from my fellow Torontonians?

Royal880 and D.Nikta
December 27th, 2004, 08:44 PM
The worst highway i have driven on is I-80/I-94 coming out of the east into Chicago

The other than that all the others i have driven are damn good

Royal880 and D.Nikta
December 27th, 2004, 08:50 PM
:ancient: :redx: :redx: :ancient:

earthJoker
December 28th, 2004, 12:16 AM
Worst:
Autstrada between Colico and Lecco
Almost all in tunnel, tunnel have bad lights and the track has lots of holes and bumps.
Driving over the Splügen pass was funnier than that :(

Best: I can't decide between the German Autobahn or the Gotthard Autobahn (not in holyday times) the second one only because of the Landscape.

GENIUS LOCI
December 28th, 2004, 12:55 AM
^
If you think this is a bad highway (tecnically it is a freeway) you're very lucky...

You've never been in a really bad highway (and I don't mean only Italy, that surely has worse ones)

I don't want to do a sterile defense of my country...
Only wanna notice that I will have never think at Colico-Lecco like the worst highway in Italy. Not so good, but not that bad...
Better you take a run (no better you don't :) ) on the second branch of Milano-Genova, or Salerno-Reggio Calabria, or Torino-Savona
Those, probably, are definitely the worst of Italy (and probably in western Europe!)

philadweller
December 28th, 2004, 01:03 AM
The Belt Parkway going through Brooklyn is not for the faint of heart, neither is the Cross Bronx Expressway (95). Tampa's highways are dreadful. The Howard Franklin Bridge has no breakdown lane...but now that I think of it, neither do any of the bridges here. All highways scare the shit out of me.

The Stretch of 95 north of Philadelphia between Woodhaven Blvd and the Ben Franklin Bridge is just horrific. There always seems to be debris on the asphalt; a muffler here, a tire there, etc. People have a jerky, scrappy way of driving in Philthy. Turn signals are rarely used.

VAN-TO
December 28th, 2004, 05:07 AM
I live in the east-end of the GTA. I have been experimenting taking the new Sheppard Subway from Don Mills to the Yonge Line and then south to downtown. What a stress-free relaxing ride! It takes about 35 to 40 minutes to get downtown without the hassles of the Don Valley Parking Lot.

Any comments from my fellow Torontonians?

I used to drive from Markham to downtown via Bayview or Don Mills & the drive is only around 30-40 min, with minimal time wasted in traffic snarls. I try to avoid DVP at all costs during rush hours.

I think the 401 handles traffic quite well, for most of the weekdays, the traffic jams aren't really that bad. Maybe it needs another 2/3 lanes, & they need to get rid of the bottlenecks. also, the highway always seem to be in construction, cutting off some lanes. The express/collector system works quite well.

Vancouver is definitely not a car friendly city, just getting from Hwy. 91 to Hwy 1 is quite a hassle, since you have to cut through Surrey/NWM on city roads.

Hobodog
December 28th, 2004, 05:14 AM
Atlanta and the 90mph traffic jam does it for me...

Leeds No.1
December 28th, 2004, 03:55 PM
M180/A180 High speed dual carriageway, Grimsby-M18 Doncaster.

It is concrete and the south it makes is deafening. Its so bland as well, nothing to look at just a boring straight flat motorway with endless fields on each side. If you're lucky and are someone who's really aware, you can spot the odd power station in the distance here and there.
One of the most exciting bits though is that at Scunthorpe theres about 200m of trees on each side!

Some of the best motorways though are the M1/A1(M) Link, M621, M60 and M74/A74(M) and generally the new motorways. The M8 does its job very well but I wouldnt say its a good or bad motorway.

eomer
December 28th, 2004, 06:03 PM
Worst: Definitly the A47 between Lyon and St Etienne.
Best: A77 (Paris-Nevers), A89 (Clermont-Bordeaux), A75 (Clermont-Beziers with Millau's viaduct), A16 (Paris-Dunkerque).

Bender
December 28th, 2004, 06:55 PM
The Peripherique in Paris : narrow lanes, dangerous to get in, jams, bad pavement joints, no emergency lane, etc.

miamicanes
December 28th, 2004, 07:34 PM
Best: Central Expressway/US-75 (Dallas), I-95 (Fort Lauderdale/Broward)

Worst: Just about every road in Florida, with State Road 836 (Miami) taking the grand prize.

Worst signage: Texas in general. This is probably the one thing Florida does right... if you're heading for northbound I-95 (or whatever), you can rest assured there will be lots of signs unambiguously indicating which lanes lead to the desired direction of the desired road. In Texas, they have a nasty habit of just listing city names and assuming you know which one represents the road you want (case in point: downtown Dallas, where signs just say "Houston" and "Waco" instead of, say, "(south-ish)westbound I-30" or whatever.). And when two or three roads briefly merge in Texas, TxDOT likes to just drop all the designations except one (Florida lists them all). So if you're trying to get to westbound 183 from southbound I-35E, you'd better know in advance that the only thing the sign is going to say is "Exit: Loop 12" instead of "Exit: SR-183/Loop 12/Stadium" like it would in Florida. Well, and then there's the whole mess of 35E vs 35W (hopefully they shot the idiot who came up with THAT brilliant idea instead of just calling them I-35 and I-135 or something).

A few years ago I drove from Dallas to Miami. Crossing the border into Florida was like driving into a poor third world country compared to Texas, Louisiana, and even Mississippi and Alabama. I-10 goes from being a nice, wide, smooth road to a narrow, rough, bumpy road with NO shoulders or emergency lanes. I-95 between Daytona and West Palm Beach was bumper-to-bumper traffic.

Sigh... if only every road in Miami could be as thoroughly kick-ass as I-95 in Broward... and maybe building a few more while they're at it. That's one road they really did right and didn't cut corners on, and it shows... ;-)

Renkinjutsushi
December 29th, 2004, 06:39 AM
EDSA in Manila, Phillippines ... random dog or chicken from the butcher all over the lanes, slow underpowered diesel vans all over the place


I haven't driven on the EDSA (and don't want to lol) but yeah that pretty much sums up the highway.

Worst:
US 19: Clearwater, Florida- Contruction 24/7/365 since late 90's.
I 4: Tampa, Florida- Contruction and road widening.

Best:
I 275: St. Petersburg, Florida- Fastest way to get to Tampa or St. Petersburg and the Skyway Bridge.
I 75: Brandenton/Tampa, Florida- Speed limit on 70 MPH.

tritown
December 29th, 2004, 06:41 AM
One of the worst stretches of highway I've been on (and I've been on a lot) was between Witchita Falls, Texas and Tulsa Oklahoma. That wasn't fun. Maybe it had more to do with the unfavorable weather.

...for interstate, anyway. That doesn't count construction areas, either. Right now I'd say my own region has highways bad enough.

sequoias
December 29th, 2004, 07:28 AM
best highway: I-5 in Seattle to Tacoma area and Seattle to Everett out in suburbs during non-rush hours

worst highway: any 2 lane roads.....I have fears of head on crashes, cars with blinding headlights passing by quickly next to me at night during moderate to heavy rain sucks real bad, barely can see.

e2ksj3
December 29th, 2004, 08:12 PM
The Best:

Atlanta's freeways (I-85/75/285). Not only are the roads kept in pretty good shape, they have an advanced ITS system, that gives you trip times on the VMS's and speed data.

http://dev10.arch.vt.edu/csaylor/dcim/100olymp/p1010782.jpg

Although I haven't driven on them, Phoenix, freeways look in pretty good shape. They also have a pretty good ITS with speed data.

The Worst:

North Carolina, especially in Charlotte. Our interstates are full of potholes, dangerous tight curves and just overall bad planning.

Nick
January 4th, 2005, 02:53 AM
Vancouver has 2.2 million and yes the traffic is a bitch.

Still.2.2 Million is not a big city.The traffic cant be that bad??

snot
January 4th, 2005, 04:01 AM
2.2 million is a big city, everything above 500 000 is a big city for me. And every city can have bad traffic nothing to do with the size of the city but with sufficient highway capacity. But how bigger the city how difficulter to have sufficient capacity. Antwerp(750 000), Brussels(1 350 000) have very bad traffic in rush hour.

VAN-TO
January 4th, 2005, 04:01 AM
Still.2.2 Million is not a big city.The traffic cant be that bad??

Yes, it is bad, even in Toronto standards. GVRD has one of the most disjointed freeway systems in the world, & the Livable Strategies Plan passed by the GVRD has advocated for this kind of road system in order to increase transit ridership, stop suburb growth & grow high density corridors. Most of the Greater Vancouver area is linked by a 4-6 lane freeway (Hwy. 1), which pales in comparison to most urban freeways in north America, like the 12 lane Hwy 401 in Toronto. Hwy. 1 has no interchange with any other freeway, though it is the most important freeway in the region. Hwy. 99 is the other freeway route (Via USA), but it turns to Granville Street North of Fraser River. There is no NORTH - SOUTH Route. The city of Vancouver only has 1-2 kilometers of highway in its city limits, & that's pretty impressive in North American standards.

With enough transit investment, I'm sure many citizens will be more than willing to give up their cars for transit.

GREATER VANCOUVER (Hwy. 91, 99, 1)

http://www.burnabyvelodrome.ca/images/gvrd_map.gif

CITY OF VANCOUVER (West end of Map all the way to Boundary Road)

http://www.med.ubc.ca/electives/images/vanmap_detail.gif

The views from the freeways are absolutely amazing though!

http://www.seethenorthshore.com/horse/1310-11.JPG

snot
January 4th, 2005, 04:12 AM
Nice, good for the urbanity, density and environment. It saves a lot of open space.

Hobodog
January 4th, 2005, 05:49 AM
Best: I-75 going to 75/85 in ATL, when there is no traffic(12-18 lanes and generally, you can go as fast as you want... police don't care)

What??? I know more than a handful of people who have been busted in the center of Atlanta during low traffic hours...high traffic they sit up near Six Flags...low traffic I have seen them literally crawling around the overpasses in downtown Atlanta...

Worst: Besides the nutso Atlanta merging birmingham managed the exact same crap with the 165-159 interesection...Worst of all...we have had
TWO
tanker trucks flip in the past year and a half and each one has completely burned out part of the interstate to the point where one cannot pass it and all traffic must be diverted into the city...its a living hell...(of course...since it wasn't on I95 it didn't make any news outside the Southeast)

And what southerner can forget the infamous curve of death on I40 in Winston-Salem

runningncircles1
August 21st, 2005, 12:04 AM
What??? I know more than a handful of people who have been busted in the center of Atlanta during low traffic hours...high traffic they sit up near Six Flags...low traffic I have seen them literally crawling around the overpasses in downtown Atlanta...

Worst: Besides the nutso Atlanta merging birmingham managed the exact same crap with the 165-159 interesection...Worst of all...we have had
TWO
tanker trucks flip in the past year and a half and each one has completely burned out part of the interstate to the point where one cannot pass it and all traffic must be diverted into the city...its a living hell...(of course...since it wasn't on I95 it didn't make any news outside the Southeast)

And what southerner can forget the infamous curve of death on I40 in Winston-Salem

I never get caught, and I go 110 MPH. On the Alpha Autubahn (GA 400) I was going 115 and a cop came up right next to me, tilted his hat forward, and passed me. Are we in the same Atlanta, LOL.

But, I read a study, we have the fastest drivers and the lowest per capita speeding ticket issuance of any metro.

snitsky
August 22nd, 2005, 09:44 AM
Yes, it is bad, even in Toronto standards. GVRD has one of the most disjointed freeway systems in the world, & the Livable Strategies Plan passed by the GVRD has advocated for this kind of road system in order to increase transit ridership, stop suburb growth & grow high density corridors. Most of the Greater Vancouver area is linked by a 4-6 lane freeway (Hwy. 1), which pales in comparison to most urban freeways in north America, like the 12 lane Hwy 401 in Toronto. Hwy. 1 has no interchange with any other freeway, though it is the most important freeway in the region. Hwy. 99 is the other freeway route (Via USA), but it turns to Granville Street North of Fraser River. There is no NORTH - SOUTH Route. The city of Vancouver only has 1-2 kilometers of highway in its city limits, & that's pretty impressive in North American standards.

With enough transit investment, I'm sure many citizens will be more than willing to give up their cars for transit.

GREATER VANCOUVER (Hwy. 91, 99, 1)

http://www.burnabyvelodrome.ca/images/gvrd_map.gif

CITY OF VANCOUVER (West end of Map all the way to Boundary Road)

http://www.med.ubc.ca/electives/images/vanmap_detail.gif

The views from the freeways are absolutely amazing though!

http://www.seethenorthshore.com/horse/1310-11.JPG

I was there 2 weeks ago and for a big city Vancouver's roads suck. Have you guys heard of freeways, i know you have some, but you need more, a city cant function nearly as good without them. I was somewhere in the east Burnaby area, and traffic from there was frustrating.

California has the best and most extensive freeway systems, Seattle's is clogged up everytime, and very annoying. The worst i would have to say is Dallas area freeways, especially when your entering into the city, the freeways are not planned properly and are huge.

Montreal has a good coverage of freeways, i really liked them. My hometown Pheonix has a good freeway network, as the area sprawls big time. Denver, St. Louis have good planned freeways as well. American cities are havens for big and extensive freeway systems.

AmiDelf
August 22nd, 2005, 11:13 PM
Now this is E6 in Norway. E6 is worlds longest road, going from Norway in the north to Italy in south.

Highway E6, Norway
http://www.thomaslinderbrox.dk/images/HighwayE6Norway_2.jpg

Bridge in Norway
http://www.confluence.org/no/all/n63e008v2/pic2.jpg

Norway got totally 200km of highways, rest is 2 lanes, with yellow stripes in the middle. Lots of tunnels everywhere :)

prahsharp
August 22nd, 2005, 11:53 PM
Worst was definetly E-313 Antwerp-Liege before renovation, now some 10 years ago. This highway was nicknamed abortus-highway because it was made of concrete pices, al about 20m long, with a gap of about 2cm in between, wich gave you the impression you were in some kind of rodeo. Also because it is officialy named after (deceised) king Boudewijn of belgium, who resigned for one day because he woudn't pass the abortus-legislation trough parliament. Also quite bad is the "ring" around Zagreb (croatia, eastern europe). I don't think there is any original concrete left on that road.

Best are the rather new pieces of "autobahn" in the former east-germany. smooth riding there.

I find it really stupid, that most (and specialy the big) european country's held on their own numbering scheme (A-numbers) instead of the European numbers (E-numbers). Every time you pass a border your highway changes name.
(official european numbers can be found here (p.13) http://www.unece.org/trans/doc/2002/sc1agr/TRANS-SC1-AC5-2002-03e.pdf, and all belgian numbers here http://www.wegeninfo.be/downloads/WEGENNR.pdf)

CHANEL
August 23rd, 2005, 01:04 AM
I DONT KNOW REALLY

wolbol
August 24th, 2005, 08:52 AM
worst: great britain roads
best: E 19 , the ring of antwerp ...... :D LOL

ok I think , the ring will be a very nice piece of master work when it's finished, but before it was the most ugly piece of infrastructure in europe... how come? probably because belgium is the beating economic heart of europe, which isn't that good for roads.

so BEST: autoroute du soleil and autobahn..

Jaye101
August 24th, 2005, 11:22 PM
We even have an expressway (Sorta) called the Allen Road. The name was originally called the Spadina Expressway and then changed it to the Allen Expressway. Expressway was a "bad word" so they later named it the Allen Road. What a joke!!! It is about 5 to 6 km running north/south crossing Highway 401 to Eglinton Avenue to the south and Sheppard Avenue to the North. I call it the Expressway to nowhere! An Expressway that was nixxed by the "tree-huggers" of the day. What a waste.

Now that the GTA is about 5 million, we are suffering the serious cost of not building any more roads.

If the government does not do something soon, Toronto traffic will be totally impossible to get around. It is very serious here. Kinda like Boston before the "Big Dig". Unfortunately, where are they going to put an expressway? Maybe a hydro corridor - that's about it.



:D:D:D:D:D:D:D SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS ME

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!COMPLETE SPADINA EXPRESSWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Minato ku
August 25th, 2005, 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by wolbol
so BEST: autoroute du soleil and autobahn..
Ok autobahn is best
but autoroute du soleil freeway A7 E15 (Lyon Marseilles) has too much traffic
for my the worst freeway is A6 A7 E15 freeway in Lyon it is always in work and often in congestion.

PhilippeMtl
August 25th, 2005, 06:58 PM
Worst Highway - Quebec province and Montreal area: HWY 10 Champlain Bridge, Decarie (15), Metropolitaine (40), HWY 25 in Montreal, Incredible mess, crazy drivers, lost tourists looks to say '' what I am doing here? '', always overpack, bump, big holes, old, aggressive drivers...

A real nightmare... especially from 6 am till 9 pm 7 days a week.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

That town has by far the worst highway system I have ever experienced! It's like a broken pinball machine with the 'tilt' set too sensitively, --determined to dump you at the slightest provocation into the middle of downtown gridlock. The signage seemed almost deliberately misleading, demanding several times without warning, (and at the last possible second), that drivers cross three lanes of traffic to avoid being flung from their desired course into parts unknown.
- a tourist

chiccoplease
August 25th, 2005, 07:22 PM
Best:
Germany's A9, also other highways in Germany and Austria

Worst:
Highways in Russia, the US and Canada, especially the Montreal and Ottawa areas.

FabriFlorence
August 26th, 2005, 11:16 AM
Best: E4 in Stockholm (Sweden)
Worst: A11 near Florence (Italy).

eomer
August 26th, 2005, 09:56 PM
Best: A75 or A89 (France)
Worst: A47 (France)

Naga_Solidus
August 27th, 2005, 04:22 AM
Best: Kuala Lumpur Airport Expressway
Average: U.S. Route 101
Worst: N.H. 9 in India (no center divider, one lane per direction, and ridiculous congestion, the road desperately needs to be widened)

Third of a kind
August 27th, 2005, 04:37 AM
man the cross bronx expressway is the absolute worst!

the best - anytime theres no traffic

EdZed
August 27th, 2005, 12:39 PM
Best:
A4 in Poland
HWY 2 Calgary-Edmonton
Hwy. 17 inland island highway
Coquihalla Hwy
I-15 in Montana
Almost any German Highway

Worst:
Trans Canada anywhere busy, narrow, dangerous
Any undivided highway in Europe

Haber
August 27th, 2005, 03:26 PM
Worst: 401 (esp. in Toronto)

djm19
August 27th, 2005, 09:50 PM
Well...I live in LA...so I have seen the horrors of its traffic...many, many times.

But I recently visisted denver, and the drivers there were the worst I have ever seen. And the highway system was pretty weird. Some of it was like half freeway, half street.

Atl_Col
August 27th, 2005, 10:07 PM
best: GA400, I-75/85, 75(miami-naples) I-4, I-285(North),
worst: I-85(charlotte area), Dolhpin Expy(miami), I-95(miami), I-78(newark)

DonQui
August 27th, 2005, 10:13 PM
Europe has some fantastic highways, especially some ultra new ones in Spain :drool:

Some of the shittiest ones I have been on are are right here in the Northeastern US. :puke:

CrazyCanuck
September 17th, 2005, 05:53 AM
I've never seen a highway in such disrepair as highway 75 from Detorit to Ohio, the road was badly in need of repair and so was our car afterwards. It's funny how the road gets much better as soon as you hit Ohio.
Best highway i've been on-autobahn.

Tubeman
September 17th, 2005, 06:01 AM
The highway in Cuba is hilarious; 6 lanes but wherever you are at least 2 of the 3 on each carriage way is impassable due to potholes. You can go for 15 minutes without seeing another car, and by far the most traffic is cyclists and horses going the wrong way up the carriageway.

Plenty seem "good", I can't recall any highway that was miles better than the rest.

invincible
September 17th, 2005, 11:07 AM
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrne/vrne5nav.nsf/v/F37B0D819D81DE20CA257052000B674F/$file/The%20Northern%20Lights.jpg
^ Probably one of the best looking sections of freeway in the world (M31 Hume Fwy/Cragieburn Bypass). The blue posts go for a very long distance.

This same highway can get pretty bad several hundred km towards Sydney though - parts are still undivided two- or three-lane sections and as a result you can have speed limits that range from 110 to 60. It's also the main road between Sydney and Melbourne.

James Foong
September 17th, 2005, 11:36 AM
i din realize expressway can be altered to so beautiful. It would be a waste if a car knock into the wall.

Alargule
September 17th, 2005, 12:36 PM
The quality of the Dutch highways is very good, as is the Autobahn network. The last one of course has the advantage that there are some (long) stretches where you can still hit the pedal to the metal without having to worry about any tickets...just your own safety...;)

staff
September 17th, 2005, 01:07 PM
Best: European highways in general (especially autobahn).
Worst: The national "highways" in Cambodia, classed as the worst highways is the world together with Congo, Africa.

picassoborseli
September 17th, 2005, 01:39 PM
The Best:

M-40 and M-50 of Madrid (around the city and some suburbs) The M-30 is nice, but too much traffic. The M-50 is new, large and not a lot of traffic

Here some photos of the M-30 orbital motorway
http://www.jorgetutor.com/spain/madrid/madrid4/madrid12.jpg

http://motor.terra.es/addon/img/motor/b749e5m30_3p.jpg


The A-5 in The Netherlands between The A-4 and the A-9 (hoofddorp -Badhoevedorp - Haarlem Zuid)


Worst:
The A-1 in Spain (Madrid-Burgos) - the A-1 from Burgos to the French boarder is quite good - Terrible asphalt, specially at Puerto de Somosierra and in the province of Segovia.

The A-2 in The Netherlands (Amsterdam-Utrecht-Maastricht)
Traffic Jams, old asphalt, specially the trace Abcoude Vinkeveen is bad, very bad for a developped country like NL.

Alargule
September 17th, 2005, 01:49 PM
The A-2 in The Netherlands (Amsterdam-Utrecht-Maastricht)
Traffic Jams, old asphalt, specially the trace Abcoude Vinkeveen is bad, very bad for a developped country like NL.

That has nothing to do with the Netherlands 'being a developed country' and all, but with the fact that the whole highway between Amsterdam and Utrecht is being replaced by a brand new one, to be ready in 2010/12. It is to be four lanes wide - construction is already underway.
BTW: do you really want to say that the whole A2 is one of the worst highways? You're not for real: between Eindhoven and Utrecht there are many new parts of the highway, 3 lanes wide, in perfect condition. The A2 around Eindhoven is being rebuilt to 4x2 lanes, as is the ring around Den Bosch. In fact, for such a busy highway, I think it does a fine job. And wherever it doesn't, it's being improved.
No, I can't say I agree with your nomination of the A2 as (one of the) 'worst highways' in the world.

picassoborseli
September 17th, 2005, 02:01 PM
That has nothing to do with the Netherlands 'being a developed country' [/i].

It has in some cases. The asphalt is really bad and I only were mentioning the route Abcoude-Vinkenven, it's like you are driving on a road of sand bumps, in my experience the A-2 is very bad (now I'm not talking about the state of the asphalt), Eindhoven has trafficlights and allover the highway I was in trafficjams :bash: It was 5 years ago I was over there, and it was bad. I took about 4 hours to get in Ličge.

I didn't know that they built new highway at Eindhoven and Den Bosh.

The A-5 on the other hand is very very good, I was last year in The Netherlands and I saw the improvement on the A-4 and A-9, no more traffic jams. :)

Alargule
September 17th, 2005, 02:10 PM
Abcoude-Vinkenveen isn't so bad at all. Not even 5 years ago. So your idea of the sand bumps is odd, to say the least.
And getting from Amsterdam to Liege will take about 3 hours, so 4 hours isn't really that bad...but don't forget that it is Holland's busiest highway, so traffic jams appear regularly.
And Eindhoven has traffic lights, but in 2011, it should be possible to by-pass them. BTW: when you were driving from Amsterdam to Liege, you shouldn't have even come past them: there already is a bypass from the A2/67 to the A2 to Maastricht. In Maastricht, the A2 is interrupted by a city road with traffic lights. There are plans to build a tunnel underneath it, but they have remained plans thus far.

picassoborseli
September 17th, 2005, 02:59 PM
I said: In mine experience, the way I think. Not your way of thinking!

Now I take another route if I go to The Netherlands and go back to Spain I enter The Netherlands at Breda (A-16) I think that's much better.
No more A-2 for me :runaway: :)

Anyway it will improve as you're telling

Tot ziens :) (hope it is correct)

Alargule
September 17th, 2005, 03:06 PM
I said: In mine experience, the way I think. Not your way of thinking!

That's a good thing, different experiences is exactly what keeps the discussions going and the forum alive...;)
A16 might be even worse, with all the HSL-construction going on right next to it. But the A2 will improve - it might be interesting for you to use that route next time.

Adios (hope that's correct)! :D

picassoborseli
September 17th, 2005, 03:23 PM
Adios (hope that's correct)! :D

almost correct:

it has to be adiós :bash: :) jejeje

shayan
October 10th, 2005, 06:53 PM
best are germany
worse are Turkey
(iran is pretty bad to)

Nerima#
October 11th, 2005, 01:41 AM
Exciting highway in my experience: tomei highway. osaka urban highway so far.
i have to be careful of fucking highway police cars though.

_tictac_
October 11th, 2005, 02:12 AM
The Weirdest: The Autostrada between Milan and Genoa, especially at the Genoa end. Seems to intertwine and bend like a video game, incredible curves for a freeway and terribly fun to drive.

Hehe, one of my favourites in Europe.

I went to Genoa/Diano Marina (close to the french border) in Italy earlier in July.
Whenever going, I use the autostrada stretch between Milan and Genoa.

Anyway, you know the CRAZY curves in the outskirts of Genoa right? I was going at about 120 km/h and suddenly this freak in a Sprinter (van!) came racing from behind at about 160 km/h. :eek:
I tried to keep up with him (in a car) but I had to give up. I am yet to figure out how on earth he managed to race down those curves at 160 km/h. At times, it even looked like the van was gonna roll over. Hilarious. :lol:

My favourites:
- Autostrada (Italy)
- Autobahn (Germany (especially West Germany) and Switzerland)
- Motorvej (Denmark)

Scruffy88
October 18th, 2005, 06:15 AM
Its in bad shape, dangerous curves, zips into unexpected tunnels underneath some highrises, lanes suddenly turn off the highway, the on ramps are way too short, speed limit is 45 mph but everyone speeds on it and the entire way you run parallel to and in some points dangerously close to a river. Many have called it one of the most dangerous highways in the country... But damn, the FDR Drive along the East River in Manhattan is my favorite highway anywhere. Driving on it is such a rush and you get some of the best views of midtown, the four bridges you cross under and ending in the heart of midtown. Thats a highway! I'll get some pics

Gordon Freeman
October 18th, 2005, 07:22 AM
I havent driven every highway in the world, infact i havent driven many at all, but i know vancouver is one of the worst, 1 freeway, thats it, and its small, because we only have 1, everyone uses city streets to get everywhere, therefore every city street is congested, every freakin street

Subangite
October 18th, 2005, 07:47 AM
Best Highways have got to be the AutoBahn and the Autostrada

Worst, hmm, I remember the roads in Bosnia being horrible.

jd_bond
October 18th, 2005, 08:45 AM
Most of the old highways in US (especially the concrete ones) are like hell ride...

sworddamage
October 18th, 2005, 12:10 PM
The best highways in the world are the dutch highways, really. Exept for the jams then...

thunder head
October 18th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Melbourne has excellent quality freeways, and sections of bad aspahlt are being replaced. Good, even asphalt across the whole network, with only a few uneven parts. Wish I had a ferrari and wish that dickhead steve bracks didn't exist (speed camera guru ) ;) he he

speed limit in metro network is 100km/h, rural 110km/h but I feel it should be 120km/h.

firmanhadi
October 18th, 2005, 04:44 PM
Grand Central Parkway NYC, especially the stretch next to La Guardia Airport

Minato ku
October 19th, 2005, 10:17 PM
the A49 in france is very bad

http://franceautoroutes.free.fr/photosautoroute.php?route=a47

the paris peripherique freeway is bad too

http://franceautoroutes.free.fr/photosautoroute.php?route=bp

i like A40 hignway in france
http://franceautoroutes.free.fr/photosautoroute.php?route=a40

the A8 highway in france is good too
http://franceautoroutes.free.fr/photosautoroute.php?route=a8

Hybrid 87
October 20th, 2005, 06:51 AM
Worst "highway" i've driven on are almost all the "highways" n Latvia
best - Lithuanian

damirdado
October 23rd, 2005, 04:55 AM
worst: THRU NEW YORK CITY
best: VIRGINIA or MARYLAND im not sure.

NorthGermany
October 28th, 2005, 11:57 AM
Best:

A7 Border Germany - Groningen (Netherlands)
http://mitglied.lycos.de/inlandsvagen/A7.jpg


A31 Emslandautobahn (the only German Autobahn I really like, because there are not so many curves, and it's often empty. You are able to drive more than 90 miles (about 150 km) with a speed of 125 mp/h (about 200 km/h).

Most impressive for me:

RV45 (Swedish riksväg) (you can call it "Trans-Sweden-Highway" between Mora and Karesuando (swedish/finnish-border) - about 745 miles (1200km).
http://mitglied.lycos.de/inlandsvagen/RV45.jpg

and some roads in Norway, esp. northern Norway

worst:

Lots of German Autobahns are only plugged, there is lots of road-work and they are boring.

PhilippeMtl
October 28th, 2005, 04:50 PM
Worst highway in Canada.
Décarie 15HWY in Montreal.

http://www.montrealpersian.net/gallery/decarie/IMG_0292.JPG

http://www.montrealpersian.net/gallery/decarie/IMG_0290.JPG
http://www.quebec-ukraine.com/i/pic/2004_02_29_b.jpg

DrJoe
October 28th, 2005, 05:22 PM
Montreal's highway system as a whole is quite the head scratcher. Nothing uniform about, just a bunch of highways slapped together. Quite extensive though I will give it that.

PotatoGuy
October 29th, 2005, 08:31 AM
the 710 between Long Beach and LA is disgusting, haha hmm iono

Brillemeister
November 9th, 2005, 11:48 AM
Best: I-185 north of Columbus.

Worst: I-20 through east Alabama.
AAAAAAAAGH. It's like they laid down a bunch of stale bubblegum.

♣628.finst
November 10th, 2005, 12:03 PM
It's two lanes in Ontario, but is four just after you enter Manitoba.

Travel from those four lane roads, and got to Thompson. Those roads further North sucks.

gruber
November 10th, 2005, 03:21 PM
Yangoon-Bago, in Myanmar/Burma.
enormous hole in the asphlat, COWS, bycicles, pedestrians...the only one positive thing is that there isn't traffic.
but the medium speed is around 60 km/h.

http://tinypic.com/fk87ck.jpg

Nicux
November 10th, 2005, 04:07 PM
The Best: Autobahn (DE) and Autostrade (IT)

The worst i've ever experienced: Greek motorways. They drive faster than germans there and keep honking the horn!!

elkram
April 23rd, 2006, 03:47 AM
After lots of autoroutes in different climes, nothing's worse than boarding most Montreal-area ones due to the abominally short single entry lanes with nowhere to verge toward were there some mishap -- there are also a few instances where the sequence of exit to entrance is inverted wherein the convergent then divergent forks are FAR TOO close to each other, at least one of which is performed on the driver's side of the expressway (daftness at its supreme where virtually no other region's road's looked messier) -- sometimes I wonder if there ought to be signage warning motorists of the lengthy section of expressway set to left-side running (another one of our inversions), coz sudden halts seem limited to that broad segment of inbound lanes set to left-side running. Oh! and if you're not swift, you risk having to swim away from your auto if your're in the Decarie plus last year our new Acadie Circle no less than twice demonstrated its belonging to this category.

Cheers,
Chris

Doc Halladay
April 25th, 2006, 06:51 AM
Best:
-401 in Ontario (When not busy as hell)
-407 Toronto

Worst:
-Autoroute 20, Ontario/Quebec Boarder to Montreal (It starts out perfectly fine and then all of a sudden you're stopping at stop lights in the middle of a town. A few more KM's up the road and you're back to an expressway. Wtf? Then it turns into a pothole fest and finally a confusing mess as you head into the downtown core. The problem is that they don't advertise the exits soon enough. You'll be driving and all of a sudden the exit sign is right there with no time to get into the proper lane. Then you're stuck getting off at the next exit and finding your way back. On New Years this past year it was 100% luck that we just happened to get into the correct street after missing the exit.)
-I-94, Downtown Detroit to Port Huron (probably the bumpiest freeway ride I've ever had. *Thud Thud... Thud Thud* for miles.)

eomer
April 25th, 2006, 06:58 AM
the A49 in france is very bad

http://franceautoroutes.free.fr/photosautoroute.php?route=a47

No:A49 (Grenoble-Valence) is quite good.
These motorway is A47 between Lyon and St Etienne: propbabilly one of the worst in Europe and even in the World

Jue
April 25th, 2006, 07:06 AM
The best I have driven on is the Central Expressway in Dallas:

http://www.texasfreeway.com/Dallas/photos/us75/images/central_1.jpg

It is a superbly designed road that far outperforms other 8-lane highways I have seen.

http://www.texasfreeway.com/Dallas/photos/us75/images/central_ramp.jpg

http://www.texasfreeway.com/Dallas/photos/us75/images/central_in_trench.jpg

Accura4Matalan
April 25th, 2006, 03:14 PM
Best:
M60 Manchester Ring Road
http://static.flickr.com/39/82885348_ce2a43e51f.jpg?v=0

http://static.flickr.com/10/16926850_7e6f779a21_o.jpg

Worst:
M6
http://static.flickr.com/47/107183835_5ab87ee2ce.jpg?v=0

Constantly queued...

Mr Centrepoint
April 26th, 2006, 11:18 AM
Well i once went to germany and had a go on the autobahn from munchen to stuttgart and that was a beautiful ride. And the M7 in sydney is a pretty sweet road, too bad they only made it 2 lane. :bash: And the worst highway would have to be the highway from penrith up to lithgow. What a stupid,windy,slow road.

Smelser
June 8th, 2006, 08:18 PM
Vancouver has an intentional policy of creating/allowing traffic congestion to occur on approaches into the city in order to avoid gridlock in the CBD/downtown, and to encourage cycling, walking & transit.

I know, it's a joke.

Any City that has a so-called Transportation Policy which states that the priority shall be placed on walking and cycling first, then transit, and vehicles never, is basically just doing the old "keep taxes down" thing and dressing it up as some kind of urban environmentalism. If it's really true that people can solve significant parts of their "transportation" needs by walking and cycling, ... then there is no transportation need in the first place. They are so close to all their destinations that there is no transporting to be done, they just need to walk or bike a short distance. That such a policy clearly discriminates against the old, those with very young children, and the handicapped or mobility impaired, is always strangely ignored in Vancouver, where adherence to this perfectly silly policy is something of an all but established secular religion.

This intentionally deceitful policy was put together in the late 1990s when the business and property owner dominated Non-Partisan Association controlled the City Council, but was not repudiated during the three years that Liberal Senator Larry Campbell (Mayor Da Vinci) and a leftist coalition was in charge. Larry bought the NPA line, which derived it's, ... er, ... ah, ... {heh heh} intellectual leadership from West End Councillor and supposed bicycle enthusiast Gordon Price, who now makes an income as an adjunct professor of town planning and general gadfly of the new urbanist (ie pro real estate developer) movement.

It derived as well from an historical "No Feeways!" doctrine that Vancouver adopted in the 1960s and which was originally promulgated by a UBC professor, the late Walter Hardwick, also an active Westside Liberal politico, who recognized early on that if expensive freeways were built, wealthy Westside taxpayers would be on the hook to pay for public works whose primary benefit would accrue to less wealthy Eastside residents, who would have noisy, dangerous traffic taken off their streets and put onto the freeway. The other beneficiaries would be suburban residents, who are regarded by Westside residents not just as second class citizens like Eastside residents, but as third class people, barely citizens at all.

The official City policy states that there will be no, as in zero, improvements to the road system. None at all, including even intersection improvements like left turn bays and advance/extended greens. That policy gets watered down though when the Insurance Corporation of BC (the sole provider of basic auto insurance in BC) steps in and identifies an intersection as a problem and offers to help out with the upgrade costs. The reason the City suddenly bends its otherwise ironclad No Build stance in those cases is because its lawyers have told it that if they obstinately refuse to upgrade an intersection where not just ICBC, but the City's own emergency police and fire personnel have identified higher than average accident, injury and fatality rates, the City will be liable when ICBC sues them to recover costs it has paid out to victims.

That's what the the City's No Build policy comes really down to, deciding to just live with and accept higher than average accident, injury and fatality rates unless and until a particular point on the road system can be identified as needing some fairly cost-effective improvements. And then budging only when there's some insurance cash on the table to help out with the upgrades.

This we are told by such luminaries as business hack writer and Councillor Peter Ladner, and former regional planning gnome Councillor David Cadman, is "progressive thinking".