SA's successful bid to stage the 2010 Soccer World Cup coupled with pending new stadium safety legislation is set to provide a major stimulus to the country's rapidly growing facilities management sector.

Facilities management solutions are likely to become an integral feature of the run-up to the soccer showpiece as stadiums are upgraded and new stadiums are brought online, says Stan Frank, MD of Broll Facilities Management.

It would more than likely start with a fast-tracking of stadium safety legislation that co-incidentally had already been earmarked by government to prevent a repeat of the 2002 Ellis Park Stadium soccer disaster, he says.

The Safety at Sports and Recreation Events Bill will cover areas such as building compliance, people safety and event management as a whole.

Among other requirements, the bill will place the onus on stadiums to meet certain safety and security standards. The bill also provides for risk categorisation and the designation of sports and recreational events, for which general safety and design certificates will be required for existing and planned stadiums.

Overlapping this to some extent are the requirements of the existing Occupational Health and Safety Act, which emphasises safety aspects such as electrical, fire and emergency equipment, among others, Frank says.

He says facilities management is trying to meet the requirements of the present and proposed legislation, which should bring stadiums into line with requirements for the world cup.

Frank says his company has been instrumental in setting up a purpose-built vehicle for stadium management in general, made up of experts and specialists from various disciplines.

"This is an opportunity for the facilities management sector to add value, especially as most stadiums will undertake largescale changes to comply with the legislation," he says.

"For stadiums, facilities management provides an opportunity to focus on their core business. Globalisation has forced organisations to raise their game and operate at international levels."

Frank says facilities management has evolved from an onsite maintenance and labour management model to a service that provides a full outsourcing ability dealing with occupational health and safety, disaster management, a technical component and environmental management issues.

Craig Henry, vice-president of the Facilities Management Association of South Africa (Safma), says facilities management has its origins in the property management sector, specifically the commercial and financial services sector, where it is still prominent.

However, there is strong growth in the public service sector, private residential and education sector and the sports and leisure sectors, he says.

The public service sector has recognised the potential for a value contribution by facilities management, most notably in national and provincial government, Henry says.

Local government is interested in principle, but implementation is lagging. Several areas of the national and provincial public services sectors are either implementing or incorporating facilities management in the design of developments, he says,

Henry says facilities management will become recognised as a management discipline and profession in its own right.

"The trend of involving practitioners in the initial design and consequent development is long overdue and will ensure that designs and consequent operations and maintenance are optimised."

Up to 50% of maintenance and safety-related problems are built-in at the design stage, and up to 70% of the life-cycle cost the total cost of ownership is determined by the design phase.

"It is expected that facilities management will become the norm in bidding for construction projects, particularly in design, build and operate contracts."

Henry says the strong growth of the facilities management market will continue.

Cape Town may get new 45 000-seater soccer stadium
July 27, 2004

Cape Town may be getting a new 45 000-seater soccer stadium-cum business park that will include a sports science centre, a soccer academy and gymnasium.

The announcement yesterday came after provincial soccer administrators expressed concerns about the R18 million upgrading of Newlands rugby stadium for the 2010 World Cup.

SA Football Association WP (Safa-WP) executive and its district associations' presidents met on Sunday and decided to explore the feasibility of a new stadium.

Safa-WP president Vernon
Seymour said draft plans were tabled and that the costing of the project still needed to be finalised.

While a site for the new stadium was confidential, the meeting identified an area close to Khayelitsha, Delft and Kuils River.

"We are at the beginning stage and there are a variety of stakeholders. This stadium is a totally new concept as it would include suites and an office block.

"It will have to be financially sustainable because we can learn from Korea where some stadiums used during the last World Cup had to be demolished.

"This has been a soccer decision and we will consult all relevant stakeholders," Seymour said.

Safa-WP public relations officer Biennie Alexander said: "A task team working on the project secured the interest and support of significant roleplayers. The meeting identified sustainability as a key factor and a presentation will be made to the sport and recreation MEC Chris Stali."

Safa-WP was unhappy about Safa having to fork out R18 million to upgrade Newlands Stadium as required by the International Football Federation (Fifa).

Alexander said Athlone Stadium did not feature in Safa's plans for the 2010 World Cup because of its logistical and infrastructural problems and that it was earmarked by the city council for multi-purpose use.

"The Cape Town City Council has not resolved issues regarding the use and management of Athlone Stadium. We battled for three years to have the stadium as a soccer venue, but we have reluctantly accepted that it is for use of stakeholders such as Christmas choirs (and) church groups.

When it came to booking the venue, we have to stand in the queue like everyone else," Alexander said.

He added that one reason soccer matches drew small crowds was because most soccer fans lived far from the city's soccer venues.

"With a new stadium specifically for soccer, we will be taking the game to where the people are," Alexander said.

The city council's director for sport and recreation, Gert Bam said: "The council's policy regarding the construction and use of Athlone Stadium has been consulted widely, including Safa-WP. Soccer is the anchor tenant at the stadium and this is no longer an issue.

"Newlands stadium is not specifically used for rugby, because soccer is also being played there and a church gathering is held there annually. The idea of multi-purpose stadiums is a worldwide trend."

Ajax Football Club boss John Comitis said he had no objections as long as all roleplayers were
consulted.

Santos captain Edries Burton said: "Athlone Stadium was always the home of soccer. Why don't they use the R18 million to upgrade Athlone? I have no problems with it being used for other purposes, because it has always been this way."

Safa CEO Albert Mokoena said he would comment after he studied Safa-WP's plan.

More than R1.5bn has been earmarked for the building of new stadiums and the upgrade of existing infrastructure

By Buddy Naidu
A country, according to Fifa regulations, requires just eight stadiumswith a minimum seating capacity of 40 000 to successfully stage a WorldCup.

But come 2010, South Africa will boast 13 state-of-the-art venues.

Soccer City in Johannesburg - the preferred venue for the opening andclosing ceremonies as well as the final game - will boast a seating capacityof 94 700 after upgrading to the tune of R212-million is complete.

Soccer City also has strong historical links to the beautiful game.In 1987 it became the first stadium built solely for football.

More than R1.5-billion has been earmarked for the building of new stadiumsand the upgrade of existing infrastructure.

Costs for this exercise will be met by the government, the South AfricanFootball Association, the private sector, municipalities and provincialgovernments.

Stadiums will feature new video scoreboards, floodlights and surveillanceequipment as well as additional turnstiles to ensure easier access.

SOCCER CITY, Johannesburg

The showpiece stadium of South African soccer was built in 1987 specificallyas a football venue. It will play host to both the opening and closingceremonies as well as the final.

About R212-million will be spent upgrading the venue, which will see94 700 spectators fit in comfortably when all is said and done.

It will boast seven levels with more than 100 turnstiles. An embankmentlevel on the western side will be extended while a roof will be constructedto cover all seats on the upper tier - resulting in 30 910 fans being seatedunder cover.

Work is set to finish in April 2007.

ELLIS PARK STADIUM, Johannesburg

The scene of one of the country's worst tragedies and best sportingtriumphs, the stadium will increase its seating capacity by 10 149, resultingin a capacity of 60 000.

Otherwise, minimal work - estimated to cost R38-million - is expectedto be conducted at one of our most modern stadiums. Two new tiers willbe constructed behind each of the goalposts while turnstiles will alsoincrease to 70 to allow easier access.

The stadium, in which our national rugby team clinched the 1995 WorldCup, is expected to host a semifinal.

ABSA STADIUM, Durban

Another of the crown jewels in South Africa's impressive array of stadiums,Absa Stadium is a semifinal venue.

The north and south stands behind each goalpost will feature new tiersto increase seating capacity to 60 000.

NEWLANDS STADIUM, Cape Town

South Africa's most aesthetically appealing stadium - set against thebackdrop of Table Mountain - is another that will require minimal upgrade.

Its capacity is set to increase to 40 000.

Work is expected to be completed in November 2007 at a cost of R16-million.

FREE STATE STADIUM, Bloemfontein

Having undergone an upgrade ahead of the 1995 Rugby World Cup, a furtherR41-million will be spent to improve seating capacity to 40 000. A newroof will then be built to cover the existing western grandstand.

KIMBERLEY STADIUM, Northern Cape (NEW)

The old and dilapidated De Beers Stadium, built in the 1920s, will bedemolished to make way for the Kimberley Stadium, with a capacity of 40000.

The multi-sports, entertainment and exhibition centre complex, to becompleted by May 2007, will stand next to the Kimberley Showgrounds.

MBOMBELA STADIUM, Nelspruit (NEW)

One of the new stadiums (capacity 40 000) to be developed, Mbombelawill be built eight kilometres from central Nelspruit, the capital of Mpumalanga,and near the Kruger National Park.

OPPENHEIMER STADIUM, Orkney, North West

Owned by the famous mining group, Anglogold , it needs to be upgraded.

It currently has a capacity of 23 000.

An athletics track will be sacrificed to build additional seats whileembankments around the stadium will also be enlarged by concrete structuresto increase capacity to 40 000.

PETER MOKABA STADIUM, Polokwane, Limpopo

The tiny stadium with a capacity of 15 000 will be upgraded to hold40 000. Named after the former leader of the ANC Youth League, work onthe stadium will be completed by April 2007. It is in relatively good conditionand has also played host to numerous international football matches andathletics meetings.

A roof covering the entire stadium will replace the current one thatcovers just the main western stand. Earth embankments will also be builtto accommodate a further 20 rows of seats.

PORT ELIZABETH STADIUM, Eastern Cape (NEW)

This hi-tech R200-million stadium, touted as "futuristic" in designand concept, will serve as a multi-sports complex that will act as theheadquarters of sport in one of the country's poorest provinces.

The idea for a new stadium came about after it was found that Port Elizabeth'srugby stadium was unsuitable for upgrading.

It will be built near the industrial port development at Coega and willboast a capacity of 49 500. Work will be completed by June 2007. It willalso serve as the home of soccer club Park United.

The project will be funded by the Nelson Mandela Bay Municipality.

SECURICOR LOFTUS, Pretoria

Minimal upgrading will be required for one of the country's best knownstadiums, which serves as the home of the Blue Bulls rugby team as wellas Mamelodi Sundowns football club.

The stadium is situated just two kilometres from the city centre. Acost of R16-million is envisaged to upgrade facilities.

RAINBOW JUNCTION, Pretoria (NEW)

The stadium is the only one of the new projects that will be developedby the private sector.

The site has already been identified, with the stadium to be built onagricultural land bordered by residential and light industrial areas eightkilometres from central Pretoria.

The main feature of the futuristic-looking venue will be a leaf-shapedcanopy that covers the main stand. The stadium will also feature state-of-the-artmasts and a floodlight system in line with its roof structure.

With a seating capacity of 41 000, it will become the home of PSL teamSupersport United.

ROYAL BAFOKENG SPORTS PALACE, Rustenburg, North West

Owned by the Bafokeng community, the stadium first opened its doorsin 1999.

It is situated in the heart of the richest platinum mining area in theworld and last year was home to PSL giants Orlando Pirates.

A fully functional sporting complex, it also features internationalstandard athletics, tennis and swimming facilities.

No major upgrading is expected, although the capacity is set to increaseto 40 000 with the construction of two additional rows of seats in theconcourse on the second level.

The cost will be around R12-million and work will be completed by November2005.

The stats on Newlands are wrong, It currently has a capacity of 51000 so any increase will be more than that. Kings Park is 52000 so the new increase will be for 8000 to 60000.

The first world cup held in Africa! I'm pretty sure that South Africa will host it very well. :)

how is Ellis Park smaller than 50,000? I thought it was 65,000 before 1995.

The Rainbow Junction in Pretoria will be the best, interms of the looks, stadium that South Africa will ever build. I hope they gonna build state-of-the-art stadium in PE. All other stadiums look so normal and are not that interesting. I also think that the rugby and the Athletic boards should put money into this stadiums as the gonna be using the in future.

The Rainbow Junction in Pretoria
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/12RAINB200.jpg

how is Ellis Park smaller than 50,000? I thought it was 65,000 before 1995.
I agree, It was or is 65000. I had a great day there in 2000 when the boks had their last decent win against the All Blacks. Also had a blast at the 1996 currie cup final where the boys in black and white were dynamite

Here are your main stadiums South Africa.

Soccer City, Johannesburg
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/01SOCCERCity200.jpg

Ellispark, Johannesburg
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/02ELLIS200.jpg

Kings park, Durban
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/05KINGS200.jpg

Bloemfontein Stadium
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/04FREES200.jpg

Kimberly Stadium
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/13KIMBE200.jpg

Mbombela, Nelspruit
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/10MBOMB200.jpg

Oppenheimer, Orkney
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/11OPPENH200.jpg

Polokwane, Petersburg
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/09POLOK200.jpg

PE Stadium
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/08PE200.jpg

Loftus Versveld, Pretoria
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/03LOFTU200.jpg

Bafokeng Stadium, Rustenburg
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/07BAFOK200.jpg

Newlands, Cape Town
http://www.supersport.co.za/images/articles/06NEWLA200.jpg

Remember that it was initially said that only 2 stadium, Rainbow Junction and PE stadiums will be built from scratch as all the other ones are already existing, but according to reports stadiums like the one in Kimberly have been demolished already and the new interesting stadium will be built from scratch and not get renovation as it was planned previously. I think this is a good move. I'm sure we gonna see more interesting designs coming up.

The other stadium is displayed on the above posting, Rainbow Junction in Pretoria.

The World Cup 2010 will aslo be held during winter in Southern Hemisphere 'cos FIFA is refusing to change the time frame for the Southerm hemisphere countries. I think that SA Government and SAFA should convince FIFA to change the date as it will be better if the World Cup is held during March/April time frame. Our country is dry during winter and it will better if moved to the time frame that will allow the visitors the beuty of our country of whcih the best time is March/April.

Its driven by the Europeans again. They dictate the timings cos the biggest audience is there, however I would have thought that Asian audiences might prefer it then too

hey i hope those aren't the final designs(quite normal looking) coz i heard some of the staduims would be different than the ones shown above like the P.E staduim which is going to became a multi purpose staduim and get a extra 150 million invest so the design of the staduim would change

hey i hope those aren't the final designs(quite normal looking) coz i heard some of the staduims would be different than the ones shown above like the P.E staduim which is going to became a multi purpose staduim and get a extra 150 million invest so the design of the staduim would change

I hope so to my man, I share your opinion that they look so normal. Its a matter of waiting and seeing as to what will happen cos there seem to be more and more investments into the stadiums and their infrastructure. I think we gonna see some amazing designs.

The pics of the stadiums were used for the tender process in order to get the World Cup - they will definitely change and I think that venues will change as well. I am also hoping that Durb's gets to host the final. Cape Town will benefit from the tourism i.e. pre and post tours.

The pics of the stadiums were used for the tender process in order to get the World Cup - they will definitely change and I think that venues will change as well. I am also hoping that Durb's gets to host the final. Cape Town will benefit from the tourism i.e. pre and post tours.

Gand, please post as you get their architectural designs

Round the clock TV soccer
06/08/2004 16:17 - (SA)

Johannesburg - A television channel broadcasting nothing but soccer, 24 hours a day, is about to be launched in South Africa.

Fans in nearly 50 African countries will be able to tune into the continent's first round-the-clock all-soccer channel on August 14.

On that day, SuperSport 3 becomes a dedicated football channel, broadcasting live coverage of, inter alia, more than 300 English Premiership fixtures during the season. Internationals, Africa's Caf Cup and Caf Champions League matches and Cosafa Castle Cup and SA Castle Premier League fixtures will also be shown live.

The SS 3 schedule also includes live coverage of English Nationwide League, Coca-Cola Champions League and Spanish League matches and weekly highlights of Italian and Argentine first-league fixtures.

"The introduction of a dedicated soccer channel for Africa follows the announcement that South Africa will host the 2010 World Cup tournament," SuperSport CEO Heinrich Enslin said in Johannesburg on Friday.

"Africa is an important member of the world-wide football family and we feel SuperSport 3 will help make the continent a super-power in the most popular sport on earth," Enslin said.

"We know of only one other 24-hour soccer channel in the world - in South America - and we are ready to take another giant step in sports broadcasting.

Enslin said SuperSport had the rights to broadcast so many matches from so many competitions that it made sense to broadcast most of the fixtures on one channel.

"Up to 10 matches will be broadcast during most weekends - at least five live and the others delayed. But we'll also show soccer on other DStv channels because some important fixtures will be played simultaneously. "

Boxing, athletics and other sports that have been broadcast mostly on SS 3 will now be shown on other SuperSport channels.

Congratiolations with the World Cup 2010.

Regards from Casablanca

Congratiolations with the World Cup 2010.

Regards from Casablanca

Thanx for showing your sportsmanship and I wish your country all the best for the next coming African World Cup Bid. I must say you laid on a good bid and you gave us a scare, but at the end we managed to become winners. I think Morroco should start preparing now so as to be ready for the future.

Fifa to set up office in SA for 2010

World soccer's governing body Fifa is to open an office in South Africa early next year to help the country prepare for the 2010 World Cup.
The Fifa emergency committee approved plans to establish a presence in the country to assist in running the tournament.

South Africa's interim 2010 organising committee, which had been mandated to set up structures and hire personnel for a local organising committee by the end of the year, now intends bringing its plans forward, officials said on Saturday.

Fifa said on Friday it would form a company, MATCH AG, to combine know-how in the key areas of management, accommodation, ticket sales and IT solutions with the South Africans.

Fifa, which has control of its own marketing and television rights, said it now plays a more significant role in organisation compared to previous competitions.

It therefore has to "not only ensure a transfer of know-how but also establish a local presence on the host country".

A Fifa statement said they would set up an office in early 2005 "before committing further resources to the host country once the 2006 World Cup has drawn to a conclusion".

The 2010 World Cup in South Africa is the first time the tournament is being hosted in Africa.

South Africa won the right to host the event in May, beating off the challenge of four other African candidates.

The 2006 World Cup finals are being held in Germany.

"South Africa faces many challenges in getting ready for the World Cup. In turn, one of challenges with which Gauteng is faced is having the Gautrain ready for the World Cup. This R7 billion Government funded high-speed train project also aims to change the very mindset of a lot of South Africans: to get out of their cars and into trains and the connecting buses and minibus taxis."

On track for Joburg's transport system is lousy but all that will change as the city prepares to welcome visitors in 2010, writes Jasper van der Bliek. In 2010, when the soccer fest of the World Cup rolls into South Africa an estimated 2,72 million spectators - local and foreign -will be in the country, many of whom are heading for Gauteng.


How to get them all from A to B to C to Z will be the biggest challenge. That's where the public transport system must come in.

The epicentre of the mega sporting event will be Johannesburg, with venues such as Soccer City and Ellis Park hosting some of the 64 matches, probably including the opening game and the final.

However, the city is not known for its efficient public transport system. "It is lousy right now," says Neil Eraser, director of the Central Johannesburg Partnership (CJP) and a consultant for the city council when it comes to regeneration of the inner-city. "But it seems the plans for improving the transport system are on track. We still have more than five years before 2010."

Figures from the Gauteng Tourism Authority show the World Cup will contribute about R21,3 billion to the gross domestic product of South Africa. The 32 soccer teams, consisting of around 50 people each, will on average spend 43 days in the country, according to the survey.

There are many plans and ideas to get Johannesburg on the public transport track in time for June 2010 and thereafter. Some, such as construction of the high-speed Gautrain to Pretoria and the airport and upgrading existing rail services, are already under way.

Others such as improving Metrobus, upgrading the feeder roads to stadiums and running shuttles from stations to stadiums and back are promises. Still others, like the CJP's desired light-rail through the city centre, might be a bit far off.

According to Eraser they all have one thing in common. "The entire metro area is integrated; that is a step forward." Under the old system all municipalities were responsible for public transport in their own areas.

But for public transport to be successful during the World Cup, a lot depends on the already notorious Gautrain. This R7 billion Government funded high-speed train project aims to change the very mindset of a lot of South Africans: to get out of their cars and into trains and the connecting buses and minibus taxis.

The R7 billion is only an estimate. According to opposition political party the Democratic Alliance, R5 billion of that budget has already been spent on the "development phase" alone.

Under development since 2000, the futuristic train is supposed to travel from Park Station in Johannesburg to Pretoria via Sandton and Midrand with another line linking the airport. Most of the journey will be through underground tunnels around 25m deep.

Gauteng Premier Mbhazima Shilowa recently announced that construction work for the train will begin in mid-2005, despite a tornado of criticism. Organisations such as the Johannesburg Chamber of Commerce, the South African Chamber of Business and the Democratic Alliance have all questioned the feasibility of the train and whether it will really ease the M1 congestion.

The estimated number of daily passengers is 104 000, about 25% of them current car commuters. According to the Gautrain's project leader Jack van der Merwe, the cost of the construction phase starting next year will come to a staggering R1 million per hour. Still, he dismisses all the doubts. "You can only be sure of the success of a system like this when it's actually there. And it will be," he says.

In the end, South Africa winning the right to host the 2010 Soccer World Cup might just have saved the project.

"It is certainly a backbone," admits Van der Merwe. "The aim is to cut the ribbon at the end of 2009, so there is time for fine-tuning before June 2010." But a legal battle is looming for Gautrain. After long negotiations and redesigning the route so it doesn't ply through settlements or residential areas, a group of residents in Muckleneuk in Pretoria plans to take Gautrain to court. They refuse to be moved to another area because the train route happens to run through Muckleneuk.

In a bid book compiled by the Johannesburg council the city promises more public transport improvements. Extra trains will run to all the venues and buses allocated for transport between hotels, restaurants and other places of interest.

The bid book says minibus taxis, which currently transport 72% of commuters, are considered an integral part of the World Cup transportation strategy. It refers to the way they were utilised during the World Summit in 2002, when taxis in good condition were rented out for the duration of the event.

Consultant Eraser is conscious of the large task awaiting Johannesburg for 2010. "We don't have a good public transport system now; there is a lot of upgrading to do. The World Cup is the opportunity for this city to show it's world class."

Challenges ahead of World Cup

South Africa faces a huge challenge in getting ready for the World Cup. These are some of the improvements and benefits the country is expected to make:

A R21,3 billion contribution to South Africa's GDP.

Upgrading of stadiums King's Park, Ellis Park, Loftus, Royal Bafokeng and Newlands.

New stadiums possibly for Port Elizabeth, Pretoria, Kimberley and Polokwane.

Fast-tracking the construction of Durban's new King Shaka international airport to be ready in 2010.

Improving relations between bus and taxi operators.

Other infrastructure updates to have the public transport system "up and running by 2009", as promised by Government.

No spectacular stadiums but the Mbombela in Nelspruit looks very nice

What makes me a big cross is the fact that they got the capacity of newlands wrong, but was corrested, and that Cape Town is not hosting a semi. I fell that it is unfair to have a opening,semi final,final,and closing all in one city.
am I the only one who thinks this?

nope I think so too cape town is the 2nd largest city economy wise and is our best tourist destination in south Africa how can a city that makes it into the top 5 must see before you die not get a semi at least ?? I think they will have to give us a semi it would totally be stupid just imagine how fantastic atlhon stadium would look when completed

hey ! cape town guy nice too see another person from the cape .......
the city is going to finish athlone stadium for the 2010 worldcup as fifa said it should be a venue the local goverment is still fighting with safa about it bout i think the see the light http://www.brand-sa.co.za/images/projects/athlonestadium.jpg

hehe just had to do it
http://www.come2capetown.com/thecity/sports/gif/soccer.jpg

I know that only 10 stadia will be used but i thought i might as well post decent quality pics of those that were proposed, there are no decent pics of athlone stadium really,

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/soccer_city/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/kings_park_stadium/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/ellis_park_stadium/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/port_elizabeth_stadium/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/loftus_versfeld/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/rainbow_junction/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/newlands/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/free_state_stadium/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/kimberley_stadium/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/mbombela_stadium/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/oppenheimer_stadium/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/peter_mokaba_stadium/100.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/suedafrika/royal_bafokeng_sports_palace/100.jpg

I am really very happy that WC will be in South Africa.

But I don't understand, that designs of the stadiums are like this and many stands have no roof ,...

well the idea is that most of the designs were just demo for fifa as i've seen the staduims for the 2006 worldcup and they looked way better as for roofs i know theres one in durbs(proposed)

Fifa and Safa officials were impressed with Durban's infrastructure yesterday during an inspection of the city's match and training venues for the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

"The quality of the city's training facilities are mind-boggling," said Irvin Khoza, a member of the World Cup 2010 organising committee.

"The passion and the working together of local government, the province and the corporate sector is a positive step, showing their commitment."

He added that the projected upgrade of Absa Stadium showed the city's desire to host the opening ceremony.

"If we had to play the World Cup in this weather, it would be perfect, and in terms of the presentation we saw here today, Durban is definitely up in the front to host the opening ceremony," he said.


Prince Sifiso Zulu, the President of the Durban Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said the seven-member Fifa inspection team had been impressed with Durban.

"It was highlighted that Durban is the best financially run city in the country, that we have the best facilities and that there are other activities that people can do - we're not only about soccer," he said.

Mayor Obed Mlaba said: "We are moving forward 100%. The ICC extension is up and running, the airport will be ready and we are very much in the running (to host matches)."

good on durbs...maybe for once we will host a match of importance..and the opening ceremony would be be FANTASTIC!!! Cos that always go's to CT! Need a change of venue

i dont think either of us will get it at this rate, looks like JHB for opening and closing

i am worried that athlone stadium will be too mediocre for hosting an opening ceremony and therefore i think soccer city with its large open field which i think is quite broad is a better option although cape town would be better in other ways, i mean 40,000 for cape town (one of the top five places to visit before you die) well thats just not good enough, they need at least a 65,000 seater stadium with a roof covering all the seats for the stadium to be close to good enough for an opening ceremony, secondly, the space around the stadium does not provide for th adequate handling of volunteers, as a performer in the 2003 cricket world cup opening i gained a sense of what is neeed for a show with 5,000 of all ages, i wudnt say the transport facilities in athlone are anyway near good enough, also its not safe for the young volunteers or anyone to be lurking around athlone, the shops and amenties are not nearly as good as in newlands, the newlands rugby stadium was used for holding the volunteers, and was a asuccess as a separate route was designated for volunteers to the cricket stadium, this route was separate from the public, so unless athlone doesnt get turned into a decent stadium i think the opening shoul go to soccer city or durban (you heard me right dysan), with a semi final coming to cape town...i dont see how some low cost couple of millions will be spent on athlone stadium to produce a make shift stadium which has long served the communities of cape town...the 10 stadiums need to be ready for 2008 when we host the confederations cup!!! and yes its scary to think how far we we are behind, the kings park and soccer city stadiums offer the space to actually run an opening ceremony, kings park has a train line running adjacent to it, all in all soccer city glowing at night will be an amazing stage to produce an amazing and symbolic opening ceremony....

dont think all will happen in JHB! Remember fifa decide, not the individual cities or 2010 bid company, they merely make suggestions. FIFA wouldnt let everything take place in one city. Never in a million years

yeah, agreed. but they are upgrading newlands(rugby) again, so lets say from 52 000 it goes to 60 000, its still not enough. as long as we get a few big ones im ok.

yeah, agreed. but they are upgrading newlands(rugby) again, so lets say from 52 000 it goes to 60 000, its still not enough. as long as we get a few big ones im ok.

Newlands wont be used for the soccer world cup and is not a venue suitable for a proper opening ceremony. i think fifa will stick to athlone and either use newlands a training venue or second match venue...does fifa decided which specific venues get used as well?? e.g. do they decide if ellis park and soccer city both get used? or do they just decide on the city??

my opinion:

i think the opening match with 94,700 people packed into soccer city with its new roof and the jburg city backdrop and south africa playing will just be tooo amazing, just a more grander feel



OPENING CEREMONY AND OPENING MATCH: same venue, so either soccer city or durbs
CLOSING AND FINAL MATCH: soccer city
SEMI FINAL 1- Cape Town
SEMI FINAL 2 - durbs if not the opening....otherwise PE or an alternate large venue

i dont think 8 venues would be enough so ten is just right, all i wanna do is jump up and shout "START BUILDING THE HUGE STADIA ALREADY"!!!!!!

oh and newlands wont be upgraded in terms of capacity... it will just receive upgrades to lighting,scoreboards and seating for the areas where peple stand, thats to say if newlands is going to be used , but they have already decided it will be athlone but i suppose we will see, the new athlone stadium is going to look F!@$#!@# AWESOME from uct at night its already amazing as it is...

FIFA's tour has been to check on the infrastructure of the stadia for they are the sole selectors of the winning stadia. they want 10 stadiums, so 10 it will be.

i think the ones to fall off will be the 2nd pretoria stadium (doesnt need 2 venues in the wc), and prob kimberly and some other small town.

Opening game and ceremony could be at the same stadium...i just really dont see fifa allowing all the big events to be in one place. Soccer city will have the final, therefore i dont think they will get opening match/ ceremony

Exciting thread.

And as much as I love dear old Cape Town, I think Johannesburg should host opening, and Durban the closing.

Exciting thread.

And as much as I love dear old Cape Town, I think Johannesburg should host opening, and Durban the closing.

the closing is not some separate event its part of the final..and the final will most likely be at soccer city, but soccer city is also perfect for theopening so send the opening to durbs...

why durban?its smaller in money and population.

^^^ Durban is South Africa's 2nd largest City (it over-took CT about 2 years ago) and KwaZulu Natal is the most populated Province. Durban is still going to kick Cape Town's ass big time. Mark my words.

Durban has grown well, but CT is growing just as fast, if not faster, just durban is getting higher highrises.

I dont want to down durban though

I think we should all leave it to rest that mosty likely the final will be in soccer city. But i really do think that the opening match/ ceremony can and should take place in durban, the weather here will be perfect for an opening ceremony at the time of the year that the event is expected to take place. Who wants to sit in the jozi cold for an opening ceremony in their winter??? Not many people imo.

It could be held in many citie(ct,dbn,jhb,pta), though Jozi is the best and biggest for this one.But things could still change. What will the capacity of Athlone become?

the only reason CT traffic is worse than durbans mate, is that u have a crap road infrastructure in place, while ours is one of the best around

I cant say anthing against that, cos i have no idea what CTs is like compared to dbn.
I have lived in ct twice, and the traffic is so much worse over 3 years it isnt funny anymore. and im in paarl.

Nine new hotel projects situated around South Africa

Golding Hotel Investment Consultants (GHIC), a member of the Pam Golding Property group and leading facilitators in the hospitality and leisure industry, are currently engaged at various stages with nine new hotel projects situated around South Africa, representing a total capital investment well in excess of R1.6 billion (or 200 million euros).

GHIC managing director Joop Demes says this is to a large degree as a direct result of South Africa winning the 2010 World Cup bid, as to have a presence in South Africa has become a must for every global hotel operator. “The build-up and exposure that South Africa will receive pre- and post-event will result in aggressive growth in foreign tourism – a proven fact in every country where this event is held. The value for money proposition, the absolute beauty of this country, the cultural diversity of its people and its first world infrastructure will also sustain this growth in many years to follow,” he says.

Since 2000 – and excluding the above transactions being concluded - the company has facilitated transactions in the industry of over 150 million euros – two thirds of which has been generated through international investors, and predominantly financed through private as opposed to corporate capital.

“An interesting trend which has recently emerged in the industry is towards private investments being undertaken in tandem with relocation either from overseas or inter-regionally. In response to this demand we recently formed a new national division specialising in guesthouses and small hotels, which in just six months has concluded five transactions at a total investment of approximately 6.5 million euros. Three of these transactions were to European investors relocating to South Africa,” says Demes.

He says the most growth experienced in the hotel industry is currently in the three star hotel sector. “While the stable and strong rand has been positive for investment, it has created a shift from five to four, and four to three star hotels – in terms of value for money for hotel guests. We are also starting to see strong demand from private and corporate investors for what the Americans refer to as condominium hotels. What this effectively means is a residential component – in various forms – within a fully serviced hospitality environment, and whereby the development profit realised through the sale of real estate, is utilised to finance a traditional hotel component.

“As a result of this demand we have formed a strategic alliance with the USA based Cendant organisation - the largest travel and real estate services company in the world - who in August (2005) will be launching Registry Collection in Africa. This is an international vacation exchange company specialising in services related to private residences across the globe. At the same event we will also be launching a new company to assist developers in the assembly, sales and marketing of private residence applications within a hospitality environment. At this stage we are dealing with projects in South Africa, Mozambique, Mauritius and the Seychelles,” adds Demes.

Since 2001, the hospitality industry in South Africa has experienced phenomenal growth. Demes says this has been driven by both corporate and leisure demand on the national domestic front - mainly due to a strong and growing economy, coupled with increasing corporate and leisure demand regionally, and strong international demand from a leisure and corporate incentive perspective.

Commenting further on the industry, Demes says while the government is exposing South Africa at a much better level through various tourism bodies, the overall budget for international exposure falls short of many competing destinations. “Government is also assisting by way of attractive grants to stimulate expansion and new developments. However, I believe it should go one step further and consider attractive fiscal arrangements to further stimulate investment in this sector, such as for example, further accelerated wear and tear allowances together with rebates on staff training and/or employment.

“There are opportunities for increased investment throughout the industry, because this is driven through a growing local corporate and leisure market, as well as an increasing international market. The more conservative investor will look at gateway cities such as Cape Town and Johannesburg, and proven destinations such as the Winelands, Garden Route and Kruger Park. However it will just be a matter of time before we see new projects in areas such as the West Coast – which is reminiscent of the Algarve some 35 years ago – and certain parts of the Eastern Cape, and KwaZulu-Natal,” adds Demes.

“In the next decade we can expect to see tremendous growth in the hospitality sector, not only through a strong and growing local economy, but also through still relatively untapped international tourism demand,” concludes Demes.

well there too many cars on the road anyway with intresting rates being as low as they are , think the idea is to make the athlone a 45000 soccer only staduim unlike the others which host rugby too

R3-billion for transport facelift

Treasury has provided R3-billion over the next three years to improve the country’s public-transport systems and infrastructure in preparation for the 2010 soccer World Cup.

Department of Transport (DoT) World Cup coordination project leader Madeleine Costanza, speaking at the annual South African transport conference at the CSIR, in Pretoria, said the host cities are in the process of determining what their transport needs are, with the DoT set to allocate funding according to these blueprints by the end of August.

She noted that South Africa’s transport systems will undergo a final inspection by global soccer body Fifa in 2008.

The deadline to prepare for the global event is, therefore, not really 2010, as many people believe, said Costanza, noting that Athens’s bid to host the 2004 Olympics was nearly scuppered at the last moment, as there were concerns about whether the Greek city’s transport system would be ready in time for the Olympic events.

In 2009, South Africa will host the Confederation Cup and several friendly matches to determine whether the country’s World Cup systems, including transport, oper-ate as required.

Costanza emphasised that freight, tourism and urban passenger demands in 2010 will be unlike anything the country has ever experienced.

It is, for example, expected that no member of the Fifa family will have to wait more than five minutes for transport, also not having to travel more than 30 minutes between his or her accommodation and a particular venue.

There will be 11 cities which will either host teams, serve as a training base or as a match venue – or all three. Other cities may still be selected to serve as training or host venues. The final decision about venues is expected from Fifa in 2007.

It is expected that between 350 000 and 500 000 people will visit South Africa during the six- to eight-week duration of the World Cup.

It is also anticipated that every ticketholder will be accompanied by one to three sight-seeing visitors, with the latter having different travel demands from the ticketholder, explained Costanza.

It is important that host cities be able to cater for the travel needs of both types of visitor.

Complicating matters further, said Costanza, is that limited accommodation near match venues implies there will be a considerable need for increased domestic travel between venues.

Ticketholders are likely to base themselves in one city, expecting to travel quickly to and from the cities where matches will be taking place.

“The DoT’s objective is to ensure travelling happens so smoothly as to be invisible,” said Costanza.

“The high profile of the event gives South Africa a chance to accelerate the pace of implementation of effective transport systems; and to act as a catalyst in ensuring a lasting transport legacy, especially since there had been little investment in public transport in the last 20 to 30 years.” The desired outcomes of the 2010 soccer World Cup should be the implementation of an integrated, timely, safe, efficient and affordable transport system operated by customer-friendly drivers.

Specific aspects in need of attention, said Costanza, include the safety of passengers, maintenance, the public’s perception of public transport, and customer care, as well as a lack of skills in the transport industry.

“We need more engineers and more information-technology professionals in the transport industry.”

R13bn World Cup spinoff expected

South Africa's hosting of the 2010 soccer World Cup will see almost R13-billion in spend coming into the country.

The event, which will be the largest ever in South Africa, is approaching fast and South Africa must capitalise on the tourism benefits that it will bring, said Grant Thornton principal Gillian Saunders.

“The biggest winner in this event will be the tourism industry,” she said addressing delegates at the one-day indaba 'Beyond 2010' held in Germiston yesterday.

The firm, which has compiled an economic-impact assessment on the event, predicts that some R2,3-billion will be spent on capital expenditure with total direct expenditure coming to R12,7-billion. The bulk of this will be from overseas spend on trips, which is estimated to amount to R3,5-billion.

As such, the contribution to South Africa's gross domestic product will be in the order of R21,4-million, which equates to 159 700 annual jobs.

While some jobs are already in existence, many short-term jobs will be created and some of these will be sustainable.

It is anticipated that about 67% of all spectators will be from South Africa, with 59% being from the province where the match is played.

Of the foreign spectators, some 5% will be from Africa and 28% are likely to be from overseas.

As such, the total number of spectators from South Africa will be just under 1,2-million with about 235 733 from foreign lands.

However, not all of these spectators will stay for the full duration and most are likely to watch four matches in two weeks.

Between 30-billion and 35-billion will watch matches on television, making the event an ideal opportunity to market South Africa as a tourism destination.

Looking at the South African tourist industry currently, total spend from foreign visitors is around R54,8-billion from 6,68-million tourist trips with an average length of 10 days' stay.

Domestic tourism spend is at about half the spend of international visitors.

In 2004, tourism grew on average at 2,26%, which improved markedly in the first half of this year to reach growth of 7,2%.

The firm anticipates that between 250 000 and 300 000 tourists will travel to South Africa for the event, with an extra 20 000 landing here for the build up.

As such, this will add 3,7% to the project base of 'normal' 2010 tourists visiting South Africa.

This figure is estimated at 8,2-million visitors without 2010.

Some R4,8-billion will enter South Africa as a result of foreign spend, 8,8% higher than current levels of spend.

The possible event structure for World Cup 2010 is likely to see matches played in eleven cities, with Johannesburg having two stadiums and being likely to host up to 15 games.

While this structure will change, with the final event structure being known in a few days, a total of about 64 matches will be played, with cities such as Kimberley, Nelspruit and Polokwane only benefiting from two weeks of the 33-day event.

To be held in June and July of 2010, the event will see some 32 teams on our shores.

While South Africa already, at peak times, copes with almost 700 000 tourists a month, accommodation facilities will be strained as the concentration of tourists is likely to be in Gauteng.

Fortunately, June and July are traditionally off peak months.

Projecting tourism growth between 2007 and 2015, Saunders expects there to be almost three-million tourists in total and 2010 will see 7,5% growth in overall tourism.

Some 340 000 additional tourists will visit, thanks to the World Cup and related activities.

This means that there will be an additional 285 000 tourists as a result of 'organic' growth.

Saunders has hopes that some 88% of those who visit as a result of the tournament, return on holiday.

It is vital, she said, to capitalise on these figures and start working on marketing South Africa as a destination now.

This includes issues such as brand development, and targeted marketing.

It is also vital to ensure that tourists have the best possible experience while in South Africa, which includes not artificially inflating pricing for the event.

Although they mentioned not to artifitially inflate prices, what are your predictions on the exchange rates?

check it out bois...


Soccer stadium design gets the nod
An artist’s impression of the stunning new stadium. The image below gives an impression of the interior filled with cheering fans. The concept design was presented to the council yesterday.

By Max Matavire Metro Editor

THE Nelson Mandela Bay council yesterday approved the concept design for the multi-purpose 2010 World Cup soccer stadium.

The concept was presented at a full council meeting by CMP, a German company which has designed many stadiums in Germany for the 2006 World Cup.

Making the presentation, the company’s representative described the site where the stadium would be built as “unique and spectacular”.

He said of all the stadiums they had designed worldwide, the Mandela Bay World Cup soccer stadium was the best because of its siting, close to a lake. He said the spectacular location of the stadium, with its terraces and hills, would turn Prince Alfred Park into a “place to visit every day”.

The stadium will be built near the North End Lake.

It emerged at the meeting that the stadium will now cost R711-million, which will include all other relevant and complementing facilities, such as developing a parking area closer to the stadium, closed-circuit cameras, floodlighting, and other equipment.

The design concept is based on a permanent seating capacity of 40 000 spectators.

Allowance has been made for a further 10 000 modular seats, which will ensure that the required World Cup capacity of 50 000 is achieved.

The 10 000 modular seats can be removed and put back.

“The stadium has a unique roof design, which will not only provide shelter against the elements, but will indeed be an icon for the city.

“The stands’ layout ensures optimum viewing conditions for both soccer and rugby, and guarantees an intimate and spectator-friendly atmosphere,” said a CMP representative.

All media, VIP and player facilities are located at playing field level.

The lower concourse area, level two, located at ground level, will provide spectator access to the lower tier and all necessary toilet and concessionary facilities.

Level three will be used for lecture halls, conference facilities and administrative offices.

Level four is for VIP suites and business club areas. The security and police are located in one corner of the arena, from which all spectators and the events within the stadium are clearly visible.

Level five is made up of permanent east and west wings, and the 10 000 modular seating. The curved roof will have a retractable portion.

“The roof will be of highest technical standards. We want to give the structure a unique character, blending it with the surrounding developments.”

Other facilities provided are a media centre, hospitality area, two training fields, on-site parking, security fencing around the VIP seating area and the parking lot.

The CMP spokesman said the water from the lake would also be used for fire fighting and for light energy.

The stadium site has the potential to be developed into a small scale waterfront, using the soccer World Cup facilities for recreational purposes.

Tenders for construction should go out in March next year.

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An artist’s impression of the stunning new stadium. The image below gives an impression of the interior filled with cheering fans. The concept design was presented to the council yesterday.
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World Cup host cities date set
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Johannesburg - The 10 cities that will host matches at the 2010 soccer World Cup will be announced in March 2006.

World Cup Local Organising Committee (LOC) CEO Danny Jordaan, Fifa's director of marketing Jerome Valcke and the 11 cities in the bid book met in Johannesburg on Friday afternoon to look at the criteria for the host cities.

"The main thing discussed today was to see who will be the 10 host cities," said Valcke.

With a Fifa inspection team having already visited the various cities bidding to host world cup games two months ago, Valcke conceded that Fifa "already know who will likely host the games but we are just awaiting the recommended cities from the LOC".

The decision, though, on who the final 10 host cities will be is a decision that will be made together by Fifa and the LOC. "We want this to be a world class event," Valcke said.

Jordaan revealed that it was still early days to say who the host cities will be as the host city and stadium agreements were only signed on Friday.

"At this stage we have only signed the host city and stadium agreements after which we will conduct studies of our own to evaluate the cities. We hope to have our recommendations of the 10 host cities to Fifa by next year March," Jordaan said.

The cities in the running to host games at the 2010 World Cup are Cape Town, Port Elizabeth, Durban, Polokwane, Nelspruit, Klerksdorp, Rustenburg, Bloemfontein, Johannesburg, Pretoria and Kimberley.


CAPE TOWN — Preparations for the 2010 Soccer World Cup changed up a gear when soft-drinks company Coca-Cola committed itself to a $100m partnership with Fifa for the event, even though the global showpiece is still five years away.

Excited 2010 World Cup local organising committee CEO Danny Jordaan said Coca-Cola became the fourth global partner of the showpiece that is to be held in SA — the first world cup on the African continent — and now only two international companies are still outstanding.

Coca-Cola joins Hyundai, Adidas and Sony as global partners while talks are already under way to conclude deals with the 2010 World Cup sponsors.

“I don’t think Fifa has ever had a situation in which all the major partners have committed themselves five years before the event,” Jordaan said. “The last two global partners should be signed up by December this year.

“This shows international companies have tremendous confidence in SA. It has never happened in world cup history that global partners for the next World Cup have already been confirmed while there is still another event (the 2006 World Cup in Germany) coming up. This is a huge boost for SA,” said Jordaan.

The announcement came just a day after Fifa president Sepp Blatter said the world football governing body would build headquarters for the South African Football Association (Safa) near Soccer City, south of Johannesburg, at a cost of between R50m and R70m. Construction on the project is expected to start in January and has to be completed by the end of July next year because Fifa will share the complex with Safa after the World Cup in Germany.

Coca-Cola chairman Neville Isdell also announced a partnership with Fifa by which the soft-drinks company will extend its association with Fifa for 16 years.

Isdell said the agreement was worth $500m and encompassed all the sponsorship deals Coca-Cola has with football at youth, domestic and at senior level.

Blatter said the long-term agreement illustrated the relationship of trust between the two organisations.

Developments in the past few days have taken many by surprise. Jordaan said a few months ago that Fifa did not like to shift media focus from the impending 2006 World Cup, to the tournament after that.

This week’s announcements have done just that and even Blatter hinted that he could not wait for the 2010 showpiece. “I have had a wish for Africa to host the world cup since the beginning of my career with Fifa in 1974.

“It is indeed with a lot of emotion that I am addressing you on this historic day in this beautiful city of Cape Town.

“It (Africa) is my continent and I feel at home,” Blatter said.

Jordaan also revealed that even the negotiations for the 2010 World Cup broadcast rights were close to completion


World Cup building boom out of the blocks
Mninawa Ntloko

Fifa boss Joseph Blatter showing off his soccer skills. President Thabo Mbeki and Blatter have launched a construction project for plush new Safa headquarters in Nasrec, Johannesburg. Picture: AP

Deputy Sports Editor

PRESIDENT Thabo Mbeki and Fifa boss Sepp Blatter unveiled the first 2010 Soccer World Cup-related construction project when plans to build plush multimillion-rand offices for the South African Football Association (Safa) were announced yesterday.

Construction of what will be known as Safa House gets underway in January next year in Nasrec, south of Johannesburg, and Fifa will foot the bill for a project that will cost between R50m and R70m to complete.

“In 1999, Fifa said all the associations had to have a house of football. Please start building and do it quickly because as from July 2006, the entire world will be focused on SA,” Blatter said.

“I call this a groundbreaking event because it is not everyday that the head of state is present (at a football function).”

Mbeki said soccer was central to the life and future of SA.

Safa have used the giant stadium near Soweto, Soccer City, as their headquarters over the past few years and the local game has been run from the venue.

The new Safa House will be built on the eastern side of the stadium’s stands and yesterday’s announcement added further weight to the belief that Soccer City, also known as FNB stadium, will host the opening and closing ceremonies, as well as the final of the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

The stadium itself will undergo a R364m facelift as part of the preparations for the tournament.

One of the conditions that go along with winning the rights to host a World Cup is that the host association provides office space where Fifa can operate.

Danny Jordaan, the CEO of the 2010 Soccer World Cup local organising committee, said earlier this year that Sandton was envisaged as the possible Fifa headquarters during the showpiece and four sites were identified.

But the football governing body and Safa later felt that it would be more cost-effective to build a new building than to rent office space.

After considering the costs that would have been involved in housing both Fifa and Safa over a five-year period till 2010 in a rented building, the world football governing body approved the decision to build a new building in September at its annual congress in Morocco.

It was decided that the long-term sustainability of South African football would benefit from owning its own state-of-the-art headquarters.

Safa president Molefi Oliphant and Soccer City GM Dennis Mumble were tasked by the football association’s executive committee to oversee the project till its conclusion next year.

The new headquarters are expected to be home to Safa and the Premier Soccer League (PSL).

But the inclusion of the PSL in the plans is still in doubt as the league recently bought a building in Parktown.

The PSL is expected to move into their new building in January next year and moving to Safa House seems the furthest thing from the minds of league officials.

I guess 2010 will be the year to return there.

that stadium for pe looks rather good

World Cup
Can FIFA afford to put 2010 finals in South Africa?
By Robert Wagman
SoccerTimes

LEIPZIG, Germany (Monday, December 12, 2005) -- The Neue Messe exhibition center, venue for the World Cup draw here, was also the site of a week long series of meetings by world governing body FIFA officials and national soccer federation officials from around the globe.

Not on their agenda, but a very hot topic in hotel lobbies and bars around town, is whether South Africa can really be ready to host by 2010.

Germany has one of the world's most advanced technical and transportation infrastructures, as well as a network of first-class soccer stadiums, used weekly for Bundesliga matches. Yet, with all Germany has in place in terms of venues and infrastructure, it still spent close to $2.4 billion to get ready for the 2006 World Cup that runs from June 9 to July 9.

Given this, the question is how can South Africa, without the existing stadiums and without the infrastructure, be ready in four years, even given a massive investment -- an outlay FIFA continues to say it will make?

FIFA is going to have to make a go, no-go decision by the end of next year. Officially, everything is on schedule, but there is a lot of skepticism and not a few countries saying -- very quietly, of course -- that they are prepared to step in should the challenge prove just too overwhelming for South Africa.

Speaking of investment, Germany has spent around $1.8 to build or renovate 12 stadiums for the World Cup and, with only about seven months to go, there are problems.

Kaiserslautern's World Cup stadium was closed last week after a large crack appeared. The team called off the December 3 scheduled Bundesliga match against Eintracht Frankfurt after the crack appeared in the east stand of Fritz-Walter-Stadion, built in 1920.

Temporary struts have been put in place, and an independent building investigation of the stadium is set to begin, the club said.

New roofs placed on several stadiums leak and will have to be fixed. The roof of Eintracht Frankfurt's new Waldstadion proved unable to keep out the rain during the Confederations Cup final earlier this year and the problem arose again in a recent league game. Cracks also appeared in the concrete at Nuremberg's Frankenstadion during a German Cup match.

FIFA Organizing Committee chairman Franz Beckenbauer now says he has doubts all will be ready by June.

Another major topic of conversation here, especially among FIFA officials, was the threat by French champions Olympique Lyon to sue FIFA over an injury sustained by defender Eric Abidal during France's 3-2 victory over Costa Rica in a friendly played in Martinique in November.

Abidal fractured his left foot and is expected to be out of action until February. Lyon blames FIFA for forcing clubs to release their players without compensation when they were picked for international duty.

Lyon coach Gerard Houllier had criticized France's decision to play the match in Martinique three days before a friendly against Germany in Paris and had threatened to withhold his players. He relented, under pressure.

Should Lyon prevail in a French court, it could change the face of international soccer, especially as to the scheduling of friendly matches

To show how the World Cup has grown in the last 30 years, last Friday's draw was in stark contrast to the one held for the 1974 Cup in West Germany.

Thirty-two years ago, 200 guests were present in Hessian radio's main broadcast studio in Frankfurt to see 16 teams placed in four groups in a short ceremony that lasted about 15 minutes. The draw itself was not conducted by world soccer stars and super-models, but rather by a then-11-year old choir boy, Detlef Lange, who was chosen -- he laughingly remembers -- "because I was in the first row and I was the shortest."

Lange, who shocked the West Germans to the core when he drew East Germany as its first opponent, now works in a Berlin department store.

On Friday, there were around 3,700 people, including 1,000 media members, in this huge trade fair hall, which was transformed into a football stadium for the occasion. It was designed as an entertainment spectacular, hosted by German talk-show host and sports journalist Reinhold Beckmann, assisted by German model Heidi Klum. It was witnessed live by a global TV audience of 320 million in 145 countries.


Rural District Gets Ready for 2010

BuaNews (Tshwane)
NEWS
December 9, 2005
Posted to the web December 9, 2005

By Neville Maakana
Giyani

The rural district of Mopani in Limpopo is getting ready for an influx of international visitors during the 2010 soccer World Cup.

Fourteen officials from the local municipalities of Greater Tzaneen, Greater Letaba, Greater Giyani and Ba-Phalaborwa have been trained as professional tour guides and will receive their certificates on Friday.

They are expected to form a district committee that will establish tour guide centres in all the local municipalities and help to promote the district as a tourist destination.

"We are getting ready for 2010," said district spokesperson Tumelo Malaka.

Mr Malaka said the local municipalities had embarked on a number of projects aimed at improving and developing their tourism potential.

These include building a hotel and cultural village in Khetlhakong village near Modjadjiskloof. This is the home of South Africa's most famous mystic, Rain Queen Modjadji, and the location of the 530-hectare Modjadji Cycad Nature Reserve, which has the largest concentration of a single cycad species in the world.

Phalaborwa, which is the known as the gateway to the world-famous Kruger National Park, has pledged to use the R1 million prize money it won as the cleanest town in the country to develop and promote tourism projects.

Mr Malaka said the district is justified in expecting an influx of international visitors for the 2010 soccer world cup.

"We boast a wide variety of natural and cultural attractions, which include legends and sacred places," he said.

Limpopo is bidding to host some of the 2010 soccer matches and Peter Mokaba Stadium in Polokwane is the preferred venue.

Provincial authorities are optimistic about the city's chances after its successful hosting of premier soccer league and international matches, including the recent Coca-Cola Cup Final between Jomo Cosmos and Supersport.

Polokwane is competing with Cape Town, Port Elizabeth, Durban, Nelspruit, Klerksdorp, Rustenburg, Bloemfontein, Johannesburg, Pretoria and Kimberley.

The 10 stadiums that will host the world cup matches will be announced in March 2006.

Will be incredible dissapointed if it is taken away from us. But i am rather sure it wont. Have any stadiums started construction?or renovations?And has CT decided what stadium to use?

my insiders who will actually build the stadium...say that the 50,000 athlone stadium will be built whether or not fifa chooses it but that newlands is most likely the venue to be used....furthermore fifa migh choose newlands and athlone based on cape towns X factor....and the low cost to the actualy organizing commitee.but that leaves only 6 cities who will host so i dont know.....i shud actually speak to them some more seeing that they actually buidling the dam stadium and try and get pics...but the building only will get some headstart once the host cities are announced...for now we in some twilight zone with lots and lots of behind the scenes works and lobbying by city officials ...so do expect more dramatic stadium presentations

If athlone stadium is fully independently funded, then it will never get the nod to host a game, u see Government made a deal with the owners of all the stadiums named in the bid, so they can get a cut in revenue for the stadiums so now if they change their mind & decide to choose the other stadiums, the other guys will get abit pissed off, & you dealing with guys like "Investec" for Investec newlands, ABSA's got major shares in most of the stadiums around the country. "FNB" for soccer city & so on...

what SA lacks in inrastructure it will make up in the love for sports!!

It will be increadibly stupid for FIFA (but then again, its FIFA..) to move it away, giant high-tech stadiums are not everything, atmosphere counts more.

we will have hi tech stadia


a 95,000 soccer city
new athlone stadium....and many other great stadia that will continue to be sustainable...south africa and fifa both knew the risk of hosting the tournament...buts its a move FIFA had to make by 2010 and not later....south africa will host a great world cup.!

Wheres Hiafa? source26
Liverpool are in the lead at half time!!!!

Wheres Hiafa? source26
Liverpool are in the lead at half time!!!!

Haifa is in Israel. It used to be one of Cape Town's sister cities (not sure if it still is). Other Israeli cities Tel Aviv and Eilat were sister cities to Jo'burg and Durban respectively. One of the main roads in Eilat is Durban Rd!

Just checked out a major business travel website. Here's the picture they had for thier Durban city guide. :weird: :lol:
Is most of the world really this ignorant when it comes to South Africa?
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3411/hut7qe.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

looks like my neighbours hut...

yes they are completely thick!!!

Haifa and Cape Town are similar in topography, each has a large industrial bay, with a mountainous backdrop, with a lot of green areas of mountain slopes.
Of course Cape Town has table mountain with the cloads on top which isnt built upon, and on Mount Carmel we built most of the upscale neighborhoods. so thats the major difference, oh - and we have a sea you can actually swim in because its warmer and not two oceans.
Both cities started out as trading posts, both were the financial centers until they moved to other cities (johannesburg and tel aviv), both have a very big flat metropolitan area around them and both are more ethnically diverse and tolerant than other areas.

http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/sports.aspx?ID=BD4A150589

Posted to the web on: 06 February 2006
SA, Fifa agree on 2010 stadiums
Sapa

SA is to refurbish five existing stadiums and build another five for the 2010 World Cup, in terms of an agreement with international football association Fifa.

Briefing the media at Parliament today, deputy sport minister Gert Oosthuizen said new stadiums would be built at Polokwane in Limpopo, Mbombela in Mpumalanga, in the Nelson Mandela Metro in the Eastern Cape, in KwaZulu-Natal’s Ethekweni Metro, and in Cape Town.

He said the Cape Town stadium, on the site of the existing Green Point Track, would be a "totally new facility", and would include a dome that could be closed in bad weather.

Stadiums to be refurbished and upgraded included three in Gauteng - Soccer City, Ellis Park and Loftus Versveld - as well as the Royal Bafokeng stadium in North West, and Vodacom Park in Bloemfontein.

The only province to miss out on the 2010 World Cup, at least as far as hosting matches goes, is the Northern Cape.

Oosthuizen said government had allocated R242m towards planning for the stadiums.

"The spread of the announced stadiums indicates that government acted swiftly to scrap the imbalance between rugby and soccer fields.

"Furthermore, we have tilted the scales in respect of stadiums in favour of the people. The five new (ones) will be owned by the municipalities on behalf of the citizens of SA," he said.

Great progress had been made towards preparing for 2010, and "everything is on track", he said.

Earlier at the briefing, Education Minister Naledi Pandor said building or refurbishing the stadiums would provide opportunities for communities and institutions to show their skills in construction, tourism and marketing.

"We are on track with building a lasting legacy from hosting the 2010 World Cup. Those in charge of football must play their part and prepare a winning squad for the tournament," she said.

^^Thanks mate for this info. Green Point stadium? That's new, however what about the increased traffic problems in an already gridlocked part of town? How's this going to be beneficial to the thousands of black fans living on the far flung outskirts of town? Well' I guess they've thought about it already...

Where is Uma Nação?
I see u got a pic of ol Jose there, gud win over us on Sunday, ur'll deserve it.
If we had better strikers we could have done something, but we didnt. I did feel that Robben over did it, but he as all the right to be arrogent seeing that ur'll were beating us fare & square

in terms of the greenpoint stadium in cape town...HUGE fights over city wanting to build student homes on the golf course next door...this apart from TRAFFIC TRAFFIC TRAFFIC....and i mean TRAFFIC...the roads are so narrow and one can hardly get to the stadium on a weekend with the traffic at night or during the day...a major bus shuttle system to and from the city will be needed, with some dedicated lanes for spectator transport...HUGE logistical issues will need to be sorted out..however...a beautiful domed stadium with the backdrop of table mountain and the city gets my vote any day..

yes i forgot the traffic aspect...there are no major direct routes to the stadium....that will pose serious problems!!

Cape Town to get 2010 super stadium boost
Staff Reporter
February 07 2006 at 12:09PM

Cape Town is to get a new 70 000-seat domed stadium in time for the 2010 World Cup on the site of the old Green Point track near the existing stadium.

This development gives the Mother City a serious claim to host glamour ties in the latter stages of the World Cup.

Bid committee chairperson Danny Jordaan said the new Green Point Stadium should be celebrated by Cape Town, as it would accommodate matches past the group stages and well into the knock-out stages of the World Cup.

Commenting on the announcement of the new stadium in parliament on Monday, Jordaan said the new stadium would definitely be on the final list to be presented to the world body Fifa.

The new stadiums would be owned by the municipalities
“Cape Town can certainly celebrate the fact that Fifa and their commercial partners viewed the city as a destination of international stature and that they would like to keep it involved in the World Cup tournament for as long as possible.

“That would only have been possible with a stadium that has a capacity greater than 40 000. The new stadium has given us as organisers a significant boost.”

Details of the new stadium were to be announced by premier Ebrahim Rasool and mayor Nomaindia Mfeketo today at noon, at a media briefing at the Green Point stadium.

Deputy sports minister Gert Oosthuizen announced the Cape Town’s venue for the 2010 World Cup during a sitting of parliament on Monday.

He said South Africa would refurbish five existing stadiums and build five new ones in time for the soccer showcase.

But can a new stadium be built in Green Point in time?
A total of R242-million had been allocated for “planning for the stadiums”. Other new stadiums would be built at Polokwane in Limpopo; Mbombela in Mpumalanga; in Port Elizabeth; and in Durban.

Oosthuizen emphasised that the new stadiums would be owned by the municipalities on behalf of the people of South Africa.

The new Green Point stadium would be roofed by a dome that could be closed in bad weather.

The announcement ends months of speculation about Cape Town’s preferred venue for the World Cup.

It also caught local football administrators completely off guard.

The City of Cape Town, the provincial government and the SA Football Association (Safa) Western Province have at various times put forward Athlone, Newlands rugby stadium and a R460-million new stadium in Delft as proposed sites for the main world cup venue.

The proposed stadium would be on par with the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff that has hosted the English FA Cup Finals in recent years, while Wembley, the traditional home of English football, undergoes a major revamp.

Shado Twala, spokesperson for Rasool, said Rasool was expected to announce specific details of the new stadium.

These would include how much would be spent on the new stadium, its capacity, how many jobs the new complex would create and what it could be used for after 2010.

The stadium would help to regenerate what was a fairly run-down area near the city centre, she added.

But can a new stadium be built in Green Point in time?

A new structure on the site of the old stadium would not be a change in existing land use so is unlikely to need rezoning. But any development which has the potential for being detrimental to the environment, which could include such problems as noise or light, has to be subject to an environmental impact assessment (EIA) in terms of national environmental legislation.

The area around the existing stadium has been city commonage for centuries, and has been used for recreation for well over a century.

For example, the Metropolitan Golf Club just opposite the stadium was established in 1895.

The common also accommodated a prisoner of war camp during the South African War.

The EIA process includes a scoping report, which is the initial step and which identifies the various potential impacts of a planned development, including heritage.

It is certain that a proposed major development like this will, at the very least, involve an EIA process that will focus specifically, but not exclusively, on such issues as heritage and traffic.

Because an EIA process includes statutory public consultation and a possible appeal process at the end before final approval is granted, it could take months – even years – before a single brick is laid.

However, the government is about to introduce revised EIA regulations that have been designed specifically to reduce the length of a EIA process and avoid delays.

Environment minister Marthinus van Schalkwyk told the Cape Argus in an interview last week that the new regulations would be published “in the foreseeable future”.

“It is important to align our development goals with our environmental objectives.”

The new regulations would simplify processes but not lower environmental standards.

Although there has been speculation over the past two weeks about plans for a mega stadium in Green Point, the city’s two Premier league clubs Ajax and Santos were taken by surprise by the announcement.

Neither Ajax boss John Comitis or his opposite number at Santos, Goolam Allie, had been told about the plan or approached for input.

Safa Western Province originally proposed a new stadium for the Delft/Blue Downs area, suggesting that the aim should be to take football to the areas where most of the game’s supporters lived.

Another proposal, put forward by the Cape Town City Council and the Western Cape Provincial Government, was that Athlone Stadium should be developed into a World Cup class stadium.

The original proposal by the SA Football Association national body was that to save great expense, Newlands should be upgraded.

This was the original plan as contained in the body’s bid book, with which Danny Jordaan’s bid committee won the right to host the World Cup.

Cape Town Stadium will be on par with millenium stadium as per the article on iol.co.za today..here are some images of millenium stadium..

http://www.istructe.org.uk/students/images/15to18/stadium_model.jpg

http://www.london2012.org/NR/rdonlyres/800D0DCF-726A-4C6B-B2A4-1DA2710236AF/0/cardiff_366x220.jpg

http://www.africafoot.com/pics/equipes/manchester_arsenal/millenium_stadium.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/WAL/Millenium_Stadium_A.jpg

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/yfh45/millblu1.jpg
http://www.schoolscience.co.uk/content/4/chemistry/steel/images/Milleniumstadium.jpg

THE proposed all-weather stadium to be built at Green Point in Cape Town ahead of the 2010 Soccer World Cup will cost about R1,2bn, a city official said today.

The City of Cape Town’s chief operating officer, Rushj Lehutso was speaking to reporters after central government announced that five new stadiums would be built for the event.

Lehutso said the R1,2bn was a preliminary figure from quantity surveyors for the cost of the 68,000 seater stadium alone, and did not include associated infrastructure such as roads, or the plan to develop a world class inner city park on the surrounding Green Point Common.

Western Cape premier Ebrahim Rasool said national government had allocated money for World Cup infrastructure, and the province and city would also look at their own budgets.

These were the three "logical sources" of funding for the stadium.

He also said the stadium could be the "deposit" on the city’s ambitions for a future Olympic Games.

Minister in the Presidency Essop Pahad, who is a member of the World Cup Local Organising Committee (LOC), said the stadium identified as Cape Town’s premier venue for the World Cup at the time SA made its bid had been Newlands.

Since then there had been a great deal of discussion with soccer governing body Fifa.

There were many who had wanted the Athlone stadium to take the honours, but to host a semifinal a stadium had to seat at least 65,000, and there was "no way" Athlone could go beyond 45,000.

Newlands also had capacity problems, he said.

Essop added that though the LOC had not yet taken a decision on allocation of semi-finals, Cape Town had a lot of the infrastructure required to host one.

Rasool said the R165m budget for the upgrading of Athlone, which could be used for World Cup warm-up friendlies and as a training ground, remained intact.

Meanwhile, Deputy Sport Minister Gert Oosthuizen said yesterday the new stadium would include a dome that could be closed in bad weather.

The five new stadiums would be owned by municipalities.

its about time i want a superstaduim in cpt YEA !! cpt rocks

ps did i tell u live in greenpoint ill be offering rooms :) come 2010

*bloody hell mo oh we going to sort the traffic i don't like the idea of it being in greenpoint unless we build a new highway or something but where ??? maybe gautrain 2 lol

so are there any renderings out yet?

ps did i tell u live in greenpoint ill be offering rooms :) come 2010

ive got friends thanks and might just be buying an apartment myself but hey invite me over for drinks anytime
lol

not to rain on ur parade...cos its good both durban and ct are getting new stadia, but you know that in the durban newspaper articles and the joburg ones, all the journalists said that the stadiums would be helping their respective cities get the olympics...so they all talk out their asses and ct aint the lucky one to get the world cup mention. the lucky one would be PE, cos no one mentioned them at all :)

And R1,2bn? ours...R1,6bn :)

not to rain on ur parade...cos its good both durban and ct are getting new stadia, but you know that in the durban newspaper articles and the joburg ones, all the journalists said that the stadiums would be helping their respective cities get the olympics...so they all talk out their asses and ct aint the lucky one to get the world cup mention. the lucky one would be PE, cos no one mentioned them at all :)

And R1,2bn? ours...R1,6bn :)
u gotta love dysan...come on we al know durbans chance of landing the olympics ....not much chance...the international hype is about cape town...including olympic insiders...as for the 1.6bn?? the .6 bn is to rename the stadium lol...and the rest to demolish the current one...the remaining 800 million is to actually build the stadium..so u wanna beat the table mountain and city backdrop of cape town dome??? well sepp blatter loves cape town...our semi final and opening ceremony is secured...

PE..u gotta love PE...a nice 300 mil stadium...btw durban cape town and PE and their new stadia will all be literally on the edge of the ocean...

Ahhh Mellenium stadium in Cardiff, fond fond memories of Liverpool victories there. One of Liverpools happy hunting grounds, we played about 7 games there, & only lost twice.

the KOP emulated at Cardiff
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6782/89295wi.jpg

Owen sinking the 2nd goal of the greatest come back in a FA Cup final against Arsenal
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1791/2facup10244ff.jpg

Are ur'll really going to get a retractable roof?

I think Durban needs one more than CT!
& yes Mo CT Olympic bid is in danger from Durbs, u see we dont need a dumb mountain to make our city, we show it off by hosting world class events such as the Vodacom Durban July & the now annual A1 grand prix oh not forgetting the world famous Comrades marathon.

Dont worry CT can get the common wealth games, its almost as big as the olympics.

PS: who needs the opening ceremony of the World Cup ( i hope ur'll do a better job than that boring cricket world cup opening ceremony), at least we will have the bigger teams playing in Durban, rumor has it that Englands home city will be Durban, because of its massive Premiership followers.

Anyway I love stadiums dont care where there are as long as they look gud & hold a high capacity its about time SA is getting on the right track by building world class venues.

HOORAY TO THE GOVERNMENT!:rock:

Ahhh Mellenium stadium in Cardiff, fond fond memories of Liverpool victories there. One of Liverpools happy hunting grounds, we played about 7 games there, & only lost twice.

the KOP emulated at Cardiff
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6782/89295wi.jpg

Owen sinking the 2nd goal of the greatest come back in a FA Cup final against Arsenal
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1791/2facup10244ff.jpg

Are ur'll really going to get a retractable roof?

I think Durban needs one more than CT!
& yes Mo CT Olympic bid is in danger from Durbs, u see we dont need a dumb mountain to make our city, we show it off by hosting world class events such as the Vodacom Durban July & the now annual A1 grand prix oh not forgetting the world famous Comrades marathon.

Dont worry CT can get the common wealth games, its almost as big as the olympics.

PS: who needs the opening ceremony of the World Cup ( i hope ur'll do a better job than that boring cricket world cup opening ceremony), at least we will have the bigger teams playing in Durban, rumor has it that Englands home city will be Durban, because of its massive Premiership followers.

Anyway I love stadiums dont care where there are as long as they look gud & hold a high capacity its about time SA is getting on the right track by building world class venues.

HOORAY TO THE GOVERNMENT!:rock:

1. cape town is getting a retactable roof...75 articles confirm this
2. durbs is nowhere close to being considered internationally as the first african city to host the games...i really shudn't go on about it anymore,but believe u me..hehe..cape town 2020 is def on the lips of the world..
3, as for events??..f1 grand prix by 2009 and ive already listed the events cape town hosts in another forum...volvo ocean race, two oceans, argus cycle tour,etc.
4. at the end of the day the new stadia would be great for both cities...but
cape town remains the only city to have mentioned there stadium and it being a "deposit" on a future olympic games bid...like blatter wants cape town to be the face of the soccer world cup....rogge wants cape town...
5. make love not war

..f1 grand prix by 2009

still gonna take place, A1 we hosted it, people loved, Bernie( FIA CEO) loved it, couldnt imangine that it was an African country pulling off such a world class event, remember now that A1 has recognition & has joined the FIA, Durbs still holds a better chance of getting the F1. Charlie Whiting loved the atmosphere of the Durban track, & said that the tropical climate added to the tremdous vibe to the race. But ne way let 2009 come, if CT does host this "F1 street race" you keep on telling us about, then I would prob go for it, seeing that I am a fan.

PS: no one is trying to make war here, we just keeping the competition healthy!

"cape town remains the only city to have mentioned there stadium and it being a "deposit" on a future olympic games bid"

Umm....Joburg and Durban both made the same comments! all the cities are talking out their asses, just like you and ur "ct has the olympics in the bag" honestly whatever

"cape town remains the only city to have mentioned there stadium and it being a "deposit" on a future olympic games bid"

Umm....Joburg and Durban both made the same comments! all the cities are talking out their asses, just like you and ur "ct has the olympics in the bag" honestly whatever


i never said cape town has the olympics in the bag..and im not gonna get into this anymore..but durban is certainly not close to being considered internationally as the city to host the olympic games..u only need to visit the stadium and arenas forum...find anyone mentioning durban on their lists of future host cities??

Venue of R1,2bn super stadium still in doubt

February 08 2006 at 02:15PM

By Bulelani Phillip

Technical details for Cape Town's new multi-billion rand stadium in Green Point are yet to be finalised, and neither the exact location nor the exact costs of the stadium are known at this stage.

The provincial administration and the City of Cape Town unveiled the sketchy plans for the stadium at a press conference at the Green Point Stadium on Tuesday.

Preliminary quantity surveying figures indicate that the stadium will cost a minimum of R1,2-billion.

'We don't have the luxury to rest'
Rushj Lehutso, the city's chief operations officer, said the new stadium could be located at the current Green Point stadium or elsewhere on Green Point Common, but the final decision would be informed by the technical assessment by architects and the views of residents.

Lehutso dismissed claims of a planned housing development on the site of the Metropolitan Golf Club, saying the city had "no intention" of building houses there.


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In response to questions on how much each sphere of government would contribute, Minister in the Presidency Essop Pahad, who is also on the Local Organising Committee, said the government would have to "find ways and means" to fund the project.

The city and province have in recent months supported the Athlone stadium as a match venue, while the provincial Safa leadership insisted a new stadium be built in Delft, which has led to disagreements.

Premier Ebrahim Rasool admitted that the decision to build a new stadium in Green Point had come as a shock and a disappointment to some people, but he insisted it was in the interest of the city if it wished to host World Cup 2010 games beyond the qualifying stages.

In an interview on a local radio station on Tuesday, Rasool explained his vision for the area as equivalent to a "Hyde Park or Central Park in London or New York, respectively".

He hoped Green Point would become an area for families to enjoy, a concert venue and even be a position from which Cape Town could bid for the Olympic Games.

Pahad said Newlands, which seats about 42 000 people, was initially proposed as a match venue to Fifa, while the "correct view" had been for Athlone, which will seat up to 30 000 people after renovations.

"When one can't go beyond 45 000, one can't qualify (to host) the quarter-final," said Pahad.

The new stadium will have a seating capacity of 70 000, and this would make it a suitable venue to host matches up to the semi-finals.

Asked if it would be completed in time, Lehutso said: "Of course we have to. If we don't finish in time, we won't get any games. We don't have the luxury to rest because this is a time-bound project."

Asked in the radio interview if the short amount of time available would lead to inferior workmanship, Rasool said they would have to "pull out all the stops" and work "quickly but properly". He said that it was vital to cut down on decision-making times, which often dawdled on for years.

Transport was also an important factor in making a decision, Rasool said. Green Point stadium would be within walking distance for many tourists staying in Sea Point, the Waterfront or the CBD.

But the World Cup, he said, was an opportunity for Cape Town to get public transport, its Achilles heel, corrected.

The "base" stadium, which includes the structure, pitch, suites and lights, has to be completed by December 2008, while the "overlay" stadium, which includes the screen and sound system, must be completed before June 2009.

still gonna take place, A1 we hosted it, people loved, Bernie( FIA CEO) loved it, couldnt imangine that it was an African country pulling off such a world class event, remember now that A1 has recognition & has joined the FIA, Durbs still holds a better chance of getting the F1. Charlie Whiting loved the atmosphere of the Durban track, & said that the tropical climate added to the tremdous vibe to the race. But ne way let 2009 come, if CT does host this "F1 street race" you keep on telling us about, then I would prob go for it, seeing that I am a fan.

PS: no one is trying to make war here, we just keeping the competition healthy!

cape town doesnt plan a street race..its planning an entirely new track near thae airport...where u been?

"planning....."

"planning....."

good one dys!

if ur'll do build it & dont get the F1, ur'll can always use it for go kart racing or that Wesbank V8 thing race they have in EL & PE.


Do u know where the most international used race track in this country is?........................Pakeeza some where in free state, Moto GP every year!

thats what i LOVE about Cape Town people!!! They always say they have this that and the next thing....and they planning to have the olympics...planning F1.....planning.....but when they were offered A1, they couldnt get their act together...now that doesnt show good organisational skills! and doesnt do the city favours in international eyes....

durbsboi.....glad i got u to support now :)

durbsboi.....glad i got u to support now :)

Hey anything for Durban,
Where the fun never sets!

http://www.birminghamsportsvillage.com/images/stadium.jpg

This stadium may not resemble the look of the dome to be built in cape town but its functionality is very close to what cape town hopes to achieve in a stadium.

Firstly, its a four sports venue,this specific image shows the birmingham sports village planned as one of the very very few stadia in europe to incorporate four sports into one stadium. The sports being football, athletics, rugby and cricket.
I think this approach will be used by both durban and cape town in the design of their stadia. At this stage both cities seem intent on including stadia that allow for both soccer and athletics but without having to seat fans some distance from the action. So hopefully some form of retractable seating system will be included which can account for the high cost of the both stadia. We all know that the 1,2 and 1,6 billion rand projected cost for both stadia does not include for instance the infrastructural and landscape improvements to be made around the stadium. Especially in the case of Cape Town who proposed a large park similiar in concept to that of hyde park and and central park. The cost of creating such parks is fairly substantial if it is to go ahead. In the case of durban creating a sports precinct would seem likely to integrate the new stadium into the area and create one sports environment.


In terms of capacities durban and cape town seem intent on reaching the 70,000 level in soccer mode, with 65,000 being the FIFA requirement for a semi-final venue. The retractable seating system would basically remove the lower tier of seating to cater for athletics events. Looking towards the concept used in Paris at Stade de France. The capacity drops by about 8-10,000 in athletics mode and at most 12,000 depending on the specific capacity of the lower tiers of seating. Resulting in, if my maths is correct, 60-62,000 seater athletics facilties which meet IOC requirements of a 60,000 stadium if durban and cape town intend on going ahead with their olympic ambitions. However 75,000 is seen as the benchmark especially for an olympic sized stadium. Therefore both stadia in cape town and durban would need to be planned in such a way that the capacity could be increased in years to come after 2010, this would certainly avoiding any large costs if capacity needs to reach 75,000. Other factors such as land available and sightlines for spectators would need to be considered.

Both cities , cape town and durban IMO should receive stadia with retractable roofs, this certainly allows it to become a concert venue, and when looking at the proposed NYC 2012 stadium which was later cancelled or voted against, it is possibly to subdivide the stadium into smaller portions..i.e only used half of the stadium and use it as an indoor arena. this would save the cost on having to build a separate large indoor facility if both cities are given the change to host indoor
sports.

http://www.newyorkgames.org/files/images/jets_40k.jpg

Using retractable seating the configurations could be endless.


Football mode

http://www.nynewsday.com/media/photo/2005-03/16795047.jpg

Athletic Mode

http://www.nynewsday.com/media/photo/2005-02/16305222.jpg

i certainly wouldnt mind this stadium for cape town or durban

http://www.sportsbusinesssims.com/jetsstadium2.jpg

In the Ezangazi Metro newspaper today, Mike Sutcliffe announced that the Durban stadium would also house a sporting museum, and a smaller indoor venue will be built right next to the massive arena as part of the development plans. Contractors are being decided and design will commence in march, with construction hoped to commence in September. Plans are to house 44 of the olympic sports in the kings park precinct and the stadium will enable them to do so.

They also stated that the stadium has to be unique and iconic...along the lines of the Montreal Olympic stadium, which to this day is still highly unique.

In the Ezangazi Metro newspaper today, Mike Sutcliffe announced that the Durban stadium would also house a sporting museum, and a smaller indoor venue will be built right next to the massive arena as part of the development plans. Contractors are being decided and design will commence in march, with construction hoped to commence in September. Plans are to house 44 of the olympic sports in the kings park precinct and the stadium will enable them to do so.

They also stated that the stadium has to be unique and iconic...along the lines of the Montreal Olympic stadium, which to this day is still highly unique.

highly unique..highly falling apart...and highly in debt...also highly underused....durban will not go down that route....im still confused...44?? olympic sports?? please explain.

Full steam ahead for stadium
09/02/2006 15:51 - (SA)
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Thandee N'wa Mhangwana

Nelspruit - Construction of a R640m stadium for the 2010 Soccer World Cup is scheduled to start in Mpumalanga in September.

The province has been selected to host some of the games and will build the stadium outside the provincial capital, Nelspruit.

"The task team will hopefully be appointed by the end of March and we hope to start construction by September complete the stadium by 2008," said deputy manager at the Mbombela municipality, Roelf Kotze.

The South African Football Association (Safa) announced on Tuesday that Mpumalanga had won a bid to host some 2010 games.

Kotze said the stadium would be able to carry 45 000 spectators. It will include parking, access roads leading and bulk services like water, electricity and sanitation.

He said the task team would learn about hosting international events by watching Germany when it hosts the 2006 Soccer World Cup in June.

"We are hoping to get people excited about 2010, and we hope to learn as much as we can from Germany," he said.

The stadium will be situated on 120 hectares nut orchard previously owned by the Matsafeni community.

The community won a land claim, but then donated it back to government for the stadium.

Boost sport and tourism

The Mpumalanga bid received support from the neighbouring countries of Mozambique and Swaziland, which hope to boost sport and tourism in the region.

The two countries are a mere 100km drive from Nelspruit.

The Mpumalanga Gaming Board (MGB) has also announced plans to award the province's fourth and final casino license to coincide with the World Cup.

It is envisioned that the stadium will form part of a new entertainment, sport, and tourism precinct on the city outskirts.

Limpopo also won its bid to host some games.

The province will use the opportunity to lure investment and promote the region as a tourism destination, said provincial sports, recreation, arts and culture spokesman Mbangiseni Masia.

He said the province would also upgrade the 40 000-seater Peter Mokaba stadium in Polokwane to a 45 000-seater stadium.

The construction of the stadiums will be partly funded nationally, while the hosting provinces are expected to come up with the rest of the money.

The other host cities are Cape Town, Pretoria, Johannesburg, Durban, Port Elizabeth, Bloemfontein and Rustenburg.


Athlone upgrade as 'soccer home' still on

February 8, 2006

By Staff Reporter

Work to upgrade the Athlone Stadium for the Soccer World Cup in 2010 continues, despite the announcement that a new match venue will be built at Green Point.

It will cost the City of Cape Town and the provincial administration an estimated R165m to finish the current renovations at Athlone Stadium which will increase its seating capacity to 30 000.

This stadium will now take a back seat in hosting matches for the 2010 World Cup, but it is earmarked to host international warm-up matches.

Athlone Stadium, the scene of many big football matches and political meetings over the years, is still on the list of training venues put forward by the South African World Cup Bid Committee.

The city and province have in the past insisted on using Athlone as a major venue, but their hopes were dashed this week when Deputy Sport Minister Gert Oosthuizen announced a new venue for the Mother City located in Green Point.

Premier Ebrahim Rasool said during a press conference yesterday that the renovations at Athlone were continuing because they wanted to make it "a dedicated home for soccer" in the city, adding that the Klipfontein Corridor - which runs through Athlone - would now be built at pace.


Rasool said during an interview on a local radio station yesterday that Athlone will still be used for training and practice games during the World Cup and for friendlies. He suggested that soccer still needed a base in Cape Town, as "the new Green Point facility will be a multi-purpose venue".

Minister in the Presidency Essop Pahad said earmarking Athlone had been a "correct view", but its seating capacity would not have allowed Cape Town to host enough matches.

Pahad also insisted they had been advised by Fifa president Sepp Blatter on the new stadium and Rasool said German World Cup supremo Franz Beckenbauer was also of the "strong opinion" that they secure a suitable semi-final venue.

But the contract to upgrade Athlone to a 30 000-seater facility would continue, said architect Peter Schumann of the company MLH, and work was progressing well.

"There is an existing contract that will be seen through and, in terms of the contract, the stadium will be developed as a training venue, according to the original brief."

Stofile: 2 acts for World Cup
09/02/2006 21:37 - (SA)
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Cape Town - The 2010 Soccer World Cup tournament is such an exceptional event that two new acts are to be promulgated in parliament to facilitate the arrangements.

The Minister of Sport and Recreation, Makhenkesi Stofile, told a media information session that an act pertaining to income tax matters with regard to organising the World Cup as well as an act that will pave the way for Fifa officials to get visas quicker, will probably be promulgated in the first half of this year.

The first act involves income tax exemptions, trade and VAT related matters. All these are special arrangements that a host country have to make for the World Cup.

The second act, with regard to special arrangements, will pave the way for visa arrangements for high-ranking Fifa officials.

Stofile said: "The World Cup tournament will be named a special event so that it can be exempted from the country's ordinary legislation."

Two Joburg stadiums
on Fifa World Cup list

As expected, Soccer City and Ellis Park are on Fifa's list of approved stadiums to host matches during the 2010 Soccer World Cup. And the City plans to upgrade its showcase venues for the event.

February 9, 2006

By Anish Abraham

IT SHOULD come as no surprise that two Joburg's most famous stadiums have been included in the Fifa list of accepted venues to host soccer matches during the 2010 World Cup.

According to BuaNews, Deputy Minister for Sports and Recreation Gert Oosthuizen announced the 10 stadiums that would be used to host matches, at a press briefing in Cape Town. The stadiums are situated around the country.

As was expected, two of the stadiums are Joburg's Ellis Park, in the inner city, and the FNB Stadium – also known as Soccer City – in the Nasrec precinct.

In response to the news, the Gauteng MEC for sports, arts, culture and recreation, Barbara Creecy, said, "Our department will work together with the [respective] cities to ensure that the refurbishments of Soccer City, Ellis Park and Loftus Versveld are completed within the Local Organising Committee's timeframes."

Having anticipated that the two Joburg stadiums would be on the approved list, the City earlier put together several plans to ensure that Ellis Park and the FNB Stadium, as well as surrounding infrastructure, are up to standard.

The capacity at Ellis Park, where the Springboks won the Rugby World Cup in 1995, is to be increased by 20 000 seats, while the general area around the precinct will benefit from a R2-billion upgrade.

The FNB Stadium, which regularly hosts titanic battles between soccer giants Kaizer Chiefs and Orlando Pirates, will receive R350-million to have its capacity increased from 80 000 to about 100 000 and an encircling roof added, giving the stadium a brand-new look.

As part of its Nasrec precinct, the City will also upgrade infrastructure surrounding the FNB Stadium. Other attractions in the vicinity include Gold Reef City, the Apartheid Museum and Kliptown, as well as a PGA-rated golf course designed by Gary Player.

Though yet to be announced, it is hoped that Ellis Park will host one semi-final, while the FNB Stadium is expected to host the opening game and the final.





. Africa upgrades airport for 2010 soccer world cup
www.chinaview.cn 2006-02-09 07:15:26

JOHANNESBURG, Feb. 8 (Xinhuanet) -- Construction at the Johannesburg International Airport to accommodate the A380 Airbus will be completed by the end of 2008, the Airports Company of South Africa said on Wednesday.

Chief Airports Planner Erik Kriel said the massive rehabilitation project, to cost about 10 billion rand (1.64 billion dollars) over the next few years, had already begun.

"Due to the 2010 Soccer World Cup the upgrading began about three years ago, but there will be more massive upgrades to the runways and terminals," Kriel said at a press conference at the airport.

"We expect traffic at the airport to double in the next nine to ten years. The Airbus will carry about 550 passengers so we have to accommodate for the arrival and departure of 550 passengers at a time."

Existing arrival and departure terminals will be completely reconstructed over the next five years, with development of the retail mall and sleeping area to be completed by the end of next year.

Cape Town International Airport was the preferred diversion for the A380, and two more runways would be constructed there, Kriel said. Enditem
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Johannesburg - South Africa's late u-turn decision to erect five new stadiums instead of three for the 2010 World Cup was made with Fifa's approval, said World Cup Local Organsing Committee (LOC) CEO Danny Jordaan from Egypt on Friday.

Jordaan, who is in Egypt for the conclusion of the African Nations Cup, said the revised plan was mainly a result of the initiative of local government authorities in Durban and Cape Town.

"It was pointed out by the Fifa authorities," said Jordaan, "that while the King's Park Rugby Stadium and Newlands Rugby Stadium passed the test to be included among the 10 World Cup venues for 2010, they might not be deemed adequate as one of the semi-final venues.

"This was basically the thinking behind the decision to add Cape Town and Durban to Port Elizabeth, Polokwane and Nelspruit where new stadiums will be constructed for the World Cup," added the LOC's CEO.

"Of course," said Jordaan, "the decision has wider implications as well, with Cape Town and Durban finally getting world-class soccer stadiums of their own instead of relying on grounds that were basically controlled by the rugby authorities in the area."

Finance guaranteed by national government

Jordaan said the issues of finance and meeting Fifa's deadlines for the the new stadiums had been guaranteed by national government and provincial government authorities in the respective areas.

"Building world-class soccer stadiums suited for a World Cup is a multi-billion rand exercise," added Jordaan, "but the national government has agreed to back the plan and the local authorities in each area have guaranteed to fulfil their roles as well."

"We are confident all the guarantees and promises will be met," said the LOC's CEO, "with the planning already taking shape in Port Elizabeth."

"Fifa officials have met with the South African government," added Jordaan, "and have voiced no objections or concerns regarding the change of plans for World Cup stadiums."

The five existiing stadiums considered suitable for the World Cup, with only upgrading required, are FNB Stadium, the projected venue for the World Cup final, a second stadium in Johannesburg, namely Ellis Park, Loftus in Pretoria, The Free State Rugby Stadium in Bloemfontein and the Royal Bafokeng Sports Palace in Rustenburg.

I wonder if we CT will get that stadium, well may be I should say yes it might get it but in 2020. As long as Mfeketo is the mayor, nothing will come right.

Check out his aticle from engineeringnews.

In January of 2005 the Mayor of Cape Town said that 22 000 houses would be constructed in the N2 Gateway project by June 2005, later altered to the effect that the completion date would be December 2005. The completion date was again changed – to June 2006. At this time it is quite evident that none of these targets has been met or will be met. The N2 Gateway was a project which has as its aim to rehouse shack dwellers between the Cape Town International Airport and Athlone Power Station. An estimated 200 000 people occupy this area in poor, overcrowded conditions. Fires are frequent and in winter floods displace many people. At the time of writing, the pro-gress of the N2 Gateway project is as follows: In the Boys’ Town area no construction has started on the main houses. The temporary relocation area, which is meant to accommodate those people who have to move out of the Boys’ Town area for houses to be constructed, has 200 temporary houses constructed, mostly constructed from prefabricated materials and measuring approximately six metres by four metres.

In the Delft area, 1 200 temporary relocation houses have been constructed, and in the Joe Slovo area a similar number. The only permanent houses that have been constructed are in the vicinity of Athlone Power Station, where approximately 14 flat blocks, each a double storey and comprising approximately 345 flats, have been constructed for occupation but are presently unoccupied owing to the lack of infrastructure to supply water, sewerage or electri- city. In the compiling of this report, the City of Cape Town declined to comment on any matter concerning the N2 Gateway project. Emails are not replied to by the City of Cape Town and all inform-ation recorded here is based on observation and off-the-record discussions with involved parties. In 2004 the City of Cape Town called for a response from interested parties who would want to construct housing in the N2 Gateway project. Approximately 30 parties respon- ded with proposals, of which four were selected for final consideration. Following the Joe Slovo shack fire, the Sobambisana consortium was given the go-ahead to fast-track the construction of accommodation near the Athlone Power Station on a greenfield site. Other consortia were instructed to proceed with design and present these designs to the City of Cape Town. This they did, together with cost proposals. For almost eight months the representatives of the City of Cape Town in the form of a project-manage- ment unit discussed and rediscussed various proposals but would not issue a firm contract document instructing the contractors and consultants to proceed with construction. Finally, in November of 2005 it was revealed that the budget for the N2 Gateway project was hopelessly overspent and that a misunderstanding by the City of Cape Town as to how Government funding would be allocated implied that the City of Cape Town was approximately R2,2-billion short of funding to complete the N2 Gateway project. Behind-doors discussions with the Minister of Housing are rumoured to have considered an option whereby the City of Cape Town would be removed from housing provision in the N2 Gateway project completely. These rumours were not founded and the city is still in charge of the housing project, although, as they have advised, at a budget which has been reduced from R2,2-billion to R1,4-billion. This has entailed cuts in many parts of the project and has resulted in the project’s being almost 16 months behind on initial delivery. A reorganisation has taken place and the project management unit of the City of Cape Town is no longer in office and a more rational view of the entire project is being propagated. Nonetheless, there is a sense that the project has been poorly managed. Many point out that well-known contractors have withdrawn or have chosen not to be involved in the project owing to their perception of client incompetence. The nearly-finished 340 dwelling units near the power station site at Athlone are still unoccupied. Fears have been expressed by opposition parties that the allocation of these dwellings will be used for political purposes to secure votes in the coming election. Whatever the future of the N2 Gateway project, local contractors and consulting engineers and architects are more than keen to put behind the initial fumblings and get on with construction as soon as possible. The continued interference by the City of Cape Town, the project management unit, and Government and other influences, have done no service to housing the poor in Cape Town.


Mfeketo is a failure, I hope DA wins CT for this coming elections. When was the last time we hear about developments in CT?

Capetonians are just big mouthed while the Durbanites implements their plans. Durban have succesfully hosted the Vodacom Soccer Challenge every year, they have hosted the most succusful A1 GP to date. What more should be done to prove that Durbs is the best.

I vote for DURBAN.

I wonder if we CT will get that stadium, well may be I should say yes it might get it but in 2020. As long as Mfeketo is the mayor, nothing will come right.

Check out his aticle from engineeringnews.

In January of 2005 the Mayor of Cape Town said that 22 000 houses would be constructed in the N2 Gateway project by June 2005, later altered to the effect that the completion date would be December 2005. The completion date was again changed – to June 2006. At this time it is quite evident that none of these targets has been met or will be met. The N2 Gateway was a project which has as its aim to rehouse shack dwellers between the Cape Town International Airport and Athlone Power Station. An estimated 200 000 people occupy this area in poor, overcrowded conditions. Fires are frequent and in winter floods displace many people. At the time of writing, the pro-gress of the N2 Gateway project is as follows: In the Boys’ Town area no construction has started on the main houses. The temporary relocation area, which is meant to accommodate those people who have to move out of the Boys’ Town area for houses to be constructed, has 200 temporary houses constructed, mostly constructed from prefabricated materials and measuring approximately six metres by four metres.

In the Delft area, 1 200 temporary relocation houses have been constructed, and in the Joe Slovo area a similar number. The only permanent houses that have been constructed are in the vicinity of Athlone Power Station, where approximately 14 flat blocks, each a double storey and comprising approximately 345 flats, have been constructed for occupation but are presently unoccupied owing to the lack of infrastructure to supply water, sewerage or electri- city. In the compiling of this report, the City of Cape Town declined to comment on any matter concerning the N2 Gateway project. Emails are not replied to by the City of Cape Town and all inform-ation recorded here is based on observation and off-the-record discussions with involved parties. In 2004 the City of Cape Town called for a response from interested parties who would want to construct housing in the N2 Gateway project. Approximately 30 parties respon- ded with proposals, of which four were selected for final consideration. Following the Joe Slovo shack fire, the Sobambisana consortium was given the go-ahead to fast-track the construction of accommodation near the Athlone Power Station on a greenfield site. Other consortia were instructed to proceed with design and present these designs to the City of Cape Town. This they did, together with cost proposals. For almost eight months the representatives of the City of Cape Town in the form of a project-manage- ment unit discussed and rediscussed various proposals but would not issue a firm contract document instructing the contractors and consultants to proceed with construction. Finally, in November of 2005 it was revealed that the budget for the N2 Gateway project was hopelessly overspent and that a misunderstanding by the City of Cape Town as to how Government funding would be allocated implied that the City of Cape Town was approximately R2,2-billion short of funding to complete the N2 Gateway project. Behind-doors discussions with the Minister of Housing are rumoured to have considered an option whereby the City of Cape Town would be removed from housing provision in the N2 Gateway project completely. These rumours were not founded and the city is still in charge of the housing project, although, as they have advised, at a budget which has been reduced from R2,2-billion to R1,4-billion. This has entailed cuts in many parts of the project and has resulted in the project’s being almost 16 months behind on initial delivery. A reorganisation has taken place and the project management unit of the City of Cape Town is no longer in office and a more rational view of the entire project is being propagated. Nonetheless, there is a sense that the project has been poorly managed. Many point out that well-known contractors have withdrawn or have chosen not to be involved in the project owing to their perception of client incompetence. The nearly-finished 340 dwelling units near the power station site at Athlone are still unoccupied. Fears have been expressed by opposition parties that the allocation of these dwellings will be used for political purposes to secure votes in the coming election. Whatever the future of the N2 Gateway project, local contractors and consulting engineers and architects are more than keen to put behind the initial fumblings and get on with construction as soon as possible. The continued interference by the City of Cape Town, the project management unit, and Government and other influences, have done no service to housing the poor in Cape Town.


Mfeketo is a failure, I hope DA wins CT for this coming elections. When was the last time we hear about developments in CT?

Capetonians are just big mouthed while the Durbanites implements their plans. Durban have succesfully hosted the Vodacom Soccer Challenge every year, they have hosted the most succusful A1 GP to date. What more should be done to prove that Durbs is the best.

I vote for DURBAN.

oh im glad. i vote PAC.

as nice as durbs is u ain't going to get the games in 2020 maybe commonwealth
durban 2020 :FICTION
cape town 2020 :FACT
and thats the bottem line though it would be funny if joburg ended up hosting it

to put more of a spanner in the works....i dont think either of us will get it by 2020!

to put more of a spanner in the works....i dont think either of us will get it by 2020!

i really actually do see all ur valid points dysan..but the IOC is planning the move to go to africa in 2020..if not 2024 for the latest..the IOC needs the games in africa as much i want it in cape town..its really nothing to argue about hey?...uhm..we shud actually just see how it pans out..joburg durban and cape town shud compete against each other locally..and then the winning city shud bid...however im not gonna lie...the hype around the IOC is cape town 2020...and i know it can change but at the moment..its african games?where? cape town!..thats just how it is...each city will receive a fair chance...as far as south africas chances go...a big mistake IMO would be to select any other city but cape town, especially with the reputation it has with the IOC..durban is really doing great...and i hope it continues to do so...and i just got home..im dead must sleep

New stadium will be 'gift' to the city
Myolisi Gophe
February 11 2006 at 12:37PM

The re-development of Green Point track into a world-class multi-purpose venue is being hailed as a lasting and impressive "gift" that will flow from the 2010 football World Cup to all the citizens of Cape Town.

The announcement this week that a new stadium will be built on the Green Point common as one of the main venues for the World Cup drew both criticism and support.

But as the news spread about the innovative plans and the renewal impact it is likely to have on the areas as well as inner city transport, support started to grow.

The government defended its choice of the venue by disclosing that, even though it will be a prime venue for the 2010 World Cup matches, the continued use and impact of the venue on the city was what had ultimately convinced authorities to build it there.


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Support started to grow
And beside attracting international non-sporting events such as concerts and exhibitions, the stadium will change the face of the city beyond the tournament. Authorities said they would re-assess their proposals for public transport and attention will be given to how to improve access to the new stadium.

Earlier the focus had been on improving access to the Athlone Stadium and plans included the multi-million Klipfontein Corridor project and a suggestion to build a railway line that would pass that stadium.

"Now we will have to change that focus," said Frank van der Velde, strategic advisor to the council's mayoral committee member charged with transport, roads and stormwater.

However, he said the council has not yet met to finalise the details and plans for Green Point.

Indications are, however, that neglected projects such as the completion of fly-overs on the Western Boulevard and the long-awaited inner-city public transport might now well receive priority.

'Now we will have to change that focus'
The establishment of a modern inner-city transport system could help reduce the number of cars in the city and ultimately solve the parking problem as motorists could park on the outskirts and
use the "effective" inner-city transport to come to the city centre.

Colin Boyes, deputy director of the Cape Regional Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said instead of completing the freeways on the Foreshore, there had been suggestions that they should be put underground so that the city could be reconnected to the port.

He said the city's integrated transport interchange plans have been lagging and will have to be boosted to address the flow of traffic.

The suggestions of a light rail system to the city centre, the Waterfront and the Green Point area on a circular route could also be discussed, Boyes said.

"These are exciting times for Cape Town and all Capetonians should get behind the development... it will be good for us."

With the R1,2-billion stadium set to be an entertainment hub, shops could be built below the pavilion and there should be great spin-offs for the construction industry.

Many people have questioned the building of the venue far away from the soccer-loving communities and close to tourists in Waterfront, Sea Point and the city centre.

But Bongi Sishi, spokesperson for the national minister of Sport, Makhenkesi Stofile, explained the venue would be a first-generation stadium and that second and third-generation stadiums such as Vygieskraal, Bellville and Gugulethu would be used as practice venues during the World Cup.


Athlone, which is being upgraded, will still be home for soccer and host international matches in future, said Sishi.

The Local Organising Committee, which consists of five cabinet ministers, five soccer bosses and two top business people, must still consult the municipality to finalise the friendly and training venues.

The Development Bank of Southern Africa, an advisor and partner of the committee, had estimated that Cape Town needs to spend about R37-million to upgrade training venues.

In its overview report of the status quo and capacity of candidate cities, it mentioned Vygieskraal, Bellville and Gugulethu as proposed practice venues.

With Athlone Stadium out of contention as a match venue, chances are that it would be also be used as either a training venue or for friendly matches where soccer lovers could interact with soccer stars "in a more relaxed manner".

A planned venue between Khayelitsha and Mitchell's Plain or Stellenbosch, with its tourism appeal, could take the place of Green Point.

Sishi said the interest would be more on the training venues than the match venue.

"If we build such a venue (for training) in Khayelitsha, for instance, Ronaldinho would pull about 20 000 people to watch him during the practice sessions for four days in a more relaxed way than in a match venue.

"This means the stadium in Khayelitsha will draw more tourists than Green Point," he said.

Cape Town and Durban are the preferred venues for the two semi-finals while Johannesburg will host the final.

Cape Town has been ranked the second best city to host the World Cup after Johannesburg while Durban and Pretoria came third and fourth respectively.

The new stadium will also give the city an opportunity to bid for the opening ceremony, as was the case during the Cricket World Cup.

positive artical.

i'm intrigued by the statement

"Cape Town has been ranked the second best city to host the World Cup after Johannesburg while Durban and Pretoria came third and fourth respectively."

Your stadium in Cape Town will most definately need a roof. considering the games are on in ur winter....god help the crowds if they had to sit in ur driving rain and wind! I hope you get the roof!!

And i know u hate me saying this, but since ur weather will be kak, i dont see a successful opening ceremony taking place in Cape Town. Even with the roof, its not a good message to send to the world an opening ceremony with the roof closed, it will hardly be as spectacular as it could be. I know i sound like a stuck record, but in terms of selling the image of South Africa, an opening ceremony in the Durban Sunshine will do far more good for the Country than one in the rain in Cape Town.

"Colin Boyes, deputy director of the Cape Regional Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said instead of completing the freeways on the Foreshore, there had been suggestions that they should be put underground so that the city could be reconnected to the port."



Very good idea, but if you look at how long it has taken Boston to do it, you may only have that ready by 2015.

i'm intrigued by the statement

"Cape Town has been ranked the second best city to host the World Cup after Johannesburg while Durban and Pretoria came third and fourth respectively."

Your stadium in Cape Town will most definately need a roof. considering the games are on in ur winter....god help the crowds if they had to sit in ur driving rain and wind! I hope you get the roof!!

And i know u hate me saying this, but since ur weather will be kak, i dont see a successful opening ceremony taking place in Cape Town. Even with the roof, its not a good message to send to the world an opening ceremony with the roof closed, it will hardly be as spectacular as it could be. I know i sound like a stuck record, but in terms of selling the image of South Africa, an opening ceremony in the Durban Sunshine will do far more good for the Country than one in the rain in Cape Town.

ure not a stuck record..we just have different opinions...had some awesome idaes for an opening ceremony..and it includes robbie williams...singing let me entertain you...while famous players do their tricks somewhere..i dunno at 2am it seemed like a brilliant idea while listening to robbie williams live while driving to town..

i like that underground idea. do you think it will be intergrated with the rail way system?

"Very good idea, but if you look at how long it has taken Boston to do it, you may only have that ready by 2015."

But if they just build one or two lines (Green Point, V&A, Central Station) and connect them to the normal railway it will work, and then build more afterwards.

a project like that takes many many years of planning, understanding the land and so forth. dont forget the land is reclaimed land so will come with many many of its own problems. Good idea...many years to implement. dont half heartedly do something...do it properly.

Also underground roads are very expensive...the costs will need to show some serious benefits

how long does it take to do a light rail service?

City officials talk out of their asses, as usual. All talk and no action. Underground highways in SA? Incredible, but NO ways it will happen. Just look at the watered down Gautrain project still in debate. We can only hope that the foreshore system will be completed at least.

Gautrain will never happen! even if it does, it will always run in debt, if they have to charge each person R25 000 everytime they use it, they still wont cover the amount up! They still looking for engineers for the job, nobody wants to take the postion becuase they know that project is a sitting duck!

As for the underground highways, by the time they set up a comitee & get a team, half the money for the project will get imbesseld by the members for them selves, & there will be another coruption case going on!

to put more of a spanner in the works....i dont think either of us will get it by 2020!
U know all of us are dying that either Ct or Durbs are gonna get the bid, but wat about the other Africa countries, remember that no African country has held an Olympics before! & looking at wat a world class event that egypt has just held (African cup of Nations), it wouldnt surprise me that another african country could pip us for that bid! I was watching CNN, SKY, BBC, CNBC... u hav no idea how much coverage they had of the event in Egypt, & every1 only had gud views on it.

& Kenya & Morroco are pretty well established countries, & if Bob dissapears from Zim's & they get a proper leader, Zim could over take SA.

Everything in Africa doesnt always have to revolve around SA, just because the dutch found us, doesnt mean we own Africa, & to tell u the truth the only way that SA gained its popularity was because of aparthied! if they didnt have that SA would have been like every other African country!

U know all of us are dying that either Ct or Durbs are gonna get the bid, but wat about the other Africa countries, remember that no African country has held an Olympics before! & looking at wat a world class event that egypt has just held (African cup of Nations), it wouldnt surprise me that another african country could pip us for that bid! I was watching CNN, SKY, BBC, CNBC... u hav no idea how much coverage they had of the event in Egypt, & every1 only had gud views on it.

& Kenya & Morroco are pretty well established countries, & if Bob dissapears from Zim's & they get a proper leader, Zim could over take SA.

Everything in Africa doesnt always have to revolve around SA, just because the dutch found us, doesnt mean we own Africa, & to tell u the truth the only way that SA gained its popularity was because of aparthied! if they didnt have that SA would have been like every other African country!

u need to read up more on the olympics..."pip us for the bid?"

which planet do u live on?...i dont mean that in a horrible way..but reality check...who? morrocco ?egypt?..u read the IOC evaluation of cairo?...dont live in a dream world...zim overtaking SA...thats really pushing it..its ok.must the heat..as for egypt...they were hardly ready for the african cup of nations..and im not gonna go into detail about some of the stadia and the state they were in just a month before....again go read up more on the olympics

Durbsboi....

The african cup of nations were a total shambles! did u not read the reports by reporters that went there in the local media? The media facilities were basically non existant, there were no crowds, except for the paltry rent a crowd that were brought in.

The area's outside of the stadium were construction sites and many buildings actually werent complete in time for the games.

Organisation at the stadium was chaotic and many people could not get in at times, and some people got in without tickets!

Hardly a well presented event

And if you read what they said about egypts taxi drivers...at least a million times worse than ours....hardly sounds successful and only seems to say well done to FIFA for telling them that they dont deserve the world cup

As for africa...come on, be serious, the rest of africa is a joke and cant even be spoken in the same sentence as South Africa, let alone compared to us

'Hard work' can finish World Cup stadium
John Yeld
February 13 2006 at 11:57AM

Of course Cape Town can complete the 68 000-seater stadium at Green Point in time for the 2010 soccer World Cup semifinal.

That's the word from veteran city architect Louis Karol.

He described the stadium proposal as "fantastic", but conceded the authorities had probably left it a bit late: "We'll have to work harder, we've got a bit of catching up to do."

Karol, whose Woodstock studio is involved in the multi-million pound development of British football club Arsenal's new ground in North London, was asked to comment on whether Cape Town had, or could easily acquire, the design and engineering know-how to build a modern stadium in a little over four years.

Karol doesn't accept as an excuse the suggestion by some city architects and planners that the project may be too ambitious to handle within the very tight time-frame and may prove a white elephant afterwards.

"The 2010 soccer World Cup has been a gift to the nation that can solve many of our problems.

"We need development and we need development that is associated with tourism."

This was because the tourism industry was such an enormous employer and could provide "starter" jobs that required only a relatively short period of training. That was also the first step towards acquiring more sophisticated skills, Karol explained.

His studio was also associated with a German consortium that is assessing the hosting of the 2006 World Cup - particularly all the add-ons - and seeing how this can best be applied in South Africa in four years' time.

The consortium's proposals include a new sports academy facility - a "Centre of Excellence" - in Cape Town. The architects in this consortium were also involved in redeveloping the stadium in Berlin that will be used for the 2006 soccer tournament's showpiece final, Karol noted.

"So that's a very interesting concept of the transfer of knowledge."

Cape Town's award-winning Waterfront was an example of what could be achieved with vision, Karol said.

"Have we got the facilities? Come on, think of the 1960s and 70s when we rebuilt the whole of Cape Town!

"The whole profession and industry learnt - from architects to structural engineers to builders.

"We moved from 10-storey buildings with no air-conditioning to 30-storey very sophisticated buildings with air-conditioning, and we did it. We jumped and we did it.

"We're a miracle country and people intrinsically are miracle people - it's purely a matter of motivation in the right way.

"It all depends on leadership and on whether the procurement is done intelligently and well, harnessing what is available and put together in the right way to build a match-winning team."

The media had an important role to play in building confidence, Karol suggested.

"And the newspapers must say 'We can do it! Let's do it!' - not 'We can't, it's too late'.

"Of course we will do it! We just need to have the right kind of motivation."

Karol added that he hoped "a very deep investigation" had been done into the associated transportation systems for the proposed stadium.

you can do it!! lol

Ok guys I was just relying on my info from CNN, SKY, BCC & so on. Didnt hear about all that nitty gritty problems experienced in Egypt. But still come on now, I think that other African countries can stage major events Africa.

Source: BBC

Is Africa ready to host the World Cup?




The African Cup of Nations has seen some great football. It has also had some problems. Nigerian fans have been unruly, floodlights have failed and there were attacks on Nigerians by football hooligans in Dakar after Senegal lost.

Probably worst of all was when the Ivory Coast Elephants were detained in a military training camp after being knocked out.

Even Fifa President Sepp Blatter, who has publically backed an Africa bid for the World Cup in 2006, was drawn into warning that the standing of football on the continent was being harmed by that incident.

So has the first co-hosted Cup of Nations tournament boosted the chances of South Africa or Morocco staging the World Cup in Africa for the first time?

Or has the Cup of Nations shown that Africa is not yet ready to host football's top tournament?

I do agree that as things stand no African city outside SA could host the Olympics but I do think there is potential in Cairo one day. Remember Cairo has several advantages - a modern subway system, more top hotel accommodation than any SA city, more foreign tourists than any SA city, close proximity to Europe and most importantly would get full support of the Arab world which would pump in billions. For 2020 I don't think it would be a big threat to SA but if the country doesn't get it then the first African olympics could go to Cairo. Complacency could cost SA dearly.

Mo how old was that article above? it seems like it is talking about a time before we got the 2010 games....?

I do agree that as things stand no African city outside SA could host the Olympics but I do think there is potential in Cairo one day. Remember Cairo has several advantages - a modern subway system, more top hotel accommodation than any SA city, more foreign tourists than any SA city, close proximity to Europe and most importantly would get full support of the Arab world which would pump in billions. For 2020 I don't think it would be a big threat to SA but if the country doesn't get it then the first African olympics could go to Cairo. Complacency could cost SA dearly.

I see all your points greg. Something on Cairo
IOC report on Cairo's Olympic bid in 2001 remembering cape town was evaluated back in 1997.

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Cape Town Evaluation in 1997

"The accommodation plan for Cape
Town is based on the great potential
the city development plan offers. It anticipates
a 45% growth in hotel capacity
by 2004. By way of example, one hotel
chain alone will add 830 rooms by mid-
1998. The Olympic family will be housed
in approximately 5,000 existing and
future 4- and 5-star quality hotel rooms.
The judges’ and referees’ village will be
in an existing housing area for visiting
parliamentarians and 80% of the rooms
will be single-occupancy. The media village,
housing all media in 13,655 rooms,
will be within 5 minutes from the
IBC/MPC. All sponsors would be housed
in either 4-5 star rooms on cruise ships
in the harbour area very close to the
Olympic family hotel or in 4- and 5-star
hotel rooms within the city.
Cape Town has a good basic transportation
infrastructure and the transportation
plans are thorough and detailed.
They demonstrate an impressive awareness
of Olympic needs. However, many
improvements are required. in particular
to the airport and rail system. Implementation
of the plan and improvements
will require an expenditure of US$ 366
million over the next 7 years. The potential
traffic congestion problem in the
harbour and central business district
needs to be addressed."


"The general concept for the organization
of the Games is very well thought
out, making particular use of the expertise
of the business community. There
is, in several areas, impressive depth of
analysis and planning which could even
be improved by closer cooperation with
sports experts.
The general sports concept includes
competition sites in 22 locations. Some
39
of these sites as well as a number of
training sites have been located in areas
selected to help development. Most of
them are within 30 minutes of the
single Olympic Village which is in the
Olympic Park, along with the Olympic
Stadium and 6 additional competition
sites."

Mo how old was that article above? it seems like it is talking about a time before we got the 2010 games....?

yes i made an error, thought it was referring to the 2006 cup of nations

some links to images of cairo

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=158584
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=158586
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=157220

Mo, you've got to be kidding! The links you posted show the worst areas of Cairo. It would be the same as posting pics of Kayalitsha and saying they represent Cape Town. I go to Cairo fairly often and can tell you there are some stunning areas. Generally the city feels far more European than African. I admit it is a huge city with some major problems but please those pics are not a fair representation of the city (especially when glowing pics of CT are posted below).

I'm not saying that Cairo is better suited than CT or any other SA city to host the olympics, I'm just saying don't write them off completely. The IOC report was interesting - Beijing didn't rate terribly highly. As I mentioned before I believe Cairo does currently offer better public transport than SA (can't fathom why the IOC report would say CT has good transport infrastructure). Cairo does have a subway system which is expanding and it has Africa's second biggest airport which handles by far the largest number international passengers. The banks of the Nile are also lined with huge 5* hotels (most 30F+) with the major chains each having not one but several hotels within close proximity to each other (4x Hilton, 3x Sheraton, 3x Intercontinental, 2x Marriott and numerous other top brands). Like CT they could also bring in cruise liners to add capacity.

I don't have any particular affinity to Cairo and I would love the Olympics to rather come to SA but we do need to be fair to other African cities.

Mo, u like to cause conflict, as I can see from ur links to the Cairo threads. U are really putting ur heart, soul & life into this 2020 olympic bid hey? wat happens if they dont award to a African country & giv it to India or Brazil or some other country?

If it does go to another country I think u should seek councilling otherwise we could see u comitting suicide! :jk:

Mo, u like to cause conflict, as I can see from ur links to the Cairo threads. U are really putting ur heart, soul & life into this 2020 olympic bid hey? wat happens if they dont award to a African country & giv it to India or Brazil or some other country?

If it does go to another country I think u should seek councilling otherwise we could see u comitting suicide! :jk:

suicide?.?? gosh u people do take these forums too seriously...i posted facts...and the links were perhaps awful...no killing myself before i go to mauritius once more...i think we shud all meet in person..buildings personas of each other is not working...my olympic talk will be restricted to the olympic thread. No im not putting my life, soul or life into this bid...i have a life...and a goal of mine is to help bring the games to cape town...i multi task. i have my views and strong opinions, and ill always be that way on any topic. over and out.

I was joking dude, wat does this sign mean ne way? :jk:

I was joking dude, wat does this sign mean ne way? :jk:

just kidding apparently..out of the country for a few days luckily before uct starts..be good bois.

just kidding apparently..out of the country for a few days luckily before uct starts..be good bois.
Cool where u off to?

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I take thats your version, not the actual design?

mo aren't u supposed to be on hols ??

mo aren't u supposed to be on hols ??
finished it on the plane...in joburg tonight seeing loads of friends.

nice stadium mo, sketch up doesnt look that bad of a program @ least it lets u have transparent colours! if only CAD could hav transparent colours!

more and more and more stadia

Construction set to start on stadium

By Max Matavire Metro Editor

PRELIMINARY planning on the proposed 60 000-seater Ebenezer Park Super Stadium to be built at Algoa Park is complete and construction will start next month.

Marne Malan, spokesman for Innovative Management Centre, the company appointed to run the stadium, said yesterday negotiations with two major sponsors were at “an advanced stage” and an announcement would be made soon.

“The following processes have been completed: project brief, site surveys, technical impact assessment, geo-technical, rezoning, bulk service design, concept architectural design, concept structural design, concept roof design and the estimated budget,” said Malan.

The multi-purpose stadium – which will have a retractable roof, a 32 000 square-metre shopping mall, a 250-room luxury hotel, Olympic standard swimming pool, a hospital, sports academy, indoor all-code sporting facilities, parking for 15 000 vehicles, a 2 500 square metre gym and an innovative ticketing and payment system – is estimated to cost R764-million.

“To give ownership of the complex to the people of Mandela Bay,” said Malan, “Innovative Management Centre intends selling a million shares at R1 000 each to the communities of the Eastern Cape. The company’s sales manager, Clifford Chamberlain, will shortly appoint 200 agents to market the shares.”

Malan said invitations had been extended to the South African Football Association to relocate its regional offices “to this unique facility”, and also to the Southern Spears Super 14 rugby franchise to make this facility their home.

Both organisations confirmed that they had been contacted by the company and said negotiations were going on.

“Further negotiations with other sporting entities will follow,” said Malan.

She said although the planning of the project was not aimed at the 2010 Soccer World Cup, the importance of creating opportunities must not be overlooked.

“Ebenezer Park Super Stadium is planned with the prosperity of local communities in mind, and answers the call by President Thabo Mbeki to involve local communities in broad-based entrepreneurial opportunities,” said Malan.

The members of the board of directors have been appointed. The chairman is ANC MP Lulu Johnson, project co-ordinator Ernest Hewitt and other members Thabo Kubu, Pastor Neville Goldman, Goodman Dyasi, Eddy Muylaert, and Linda Nginza.

Innovative Management Centre’s chief executive officer is Nohle Tabata and T O Mbetshu is the chief operations officer.

Malan said they were not in competition with the government’s R711-million 2010 Soccer World Cup stadium to be built at Prince Alfred Park in North End.

“We are only aiming to provide a benchmark for Africa with the development of a world-class multi-functional recreational facility for Nelson Mandela Bay that will benefit the communities of Mandela Bay as a whole and provide the region with the opportunity to host major sporting events and concerts in a safe and secure environment with all necessary amenities,” said Malan.
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HAHA!!! This will FLOP! PE cant sustain one stadium properly, let alone two 50 000 plus seater stadiums! it will never be built, and if it does, will cause massive embarresment to the city.

It never fails to amaze me that people think they can build a stadium and it will just succeed! Who is going to use it??? Where are the 60 000 fans going to come from? what are they going to watch??? Its a joke!!!

any render of the staduim i also like the idea of the buildings being multi functional staduim and its really good to see its starting next month pe have really doing there homework unlike the rest of us e.g. fnb staduim!!

PE havent been doing their homework at all...this stadium is NOT the one that has the backing of the council. The council is doing everything in their power to block this development, for they (rightfully) see it as not succeeding. This project will NOT host WC matches, nor does it have any ties to the organising comittee...its private individuals with their own ideas and i guess money. The sad thing is that council cant build a stadium and these people build a stadium, cos what will happen to the 2 stadia? they wont be fully utilised by a long shot! I think these developers were hoping that they would convince the council to use their stadium for the WC, i cant see any other reason for building it

Five new stadiums added to sporting mix
from http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/eng/sector/construction/?show=80665
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South Africa will be building five new stadiums and will be renovating five others to meet the requirements of the 2010 soccer World Cup.

At a media briefing in Cape Town earlier this month, Deputy Minister of Sport and Recreation Gert Oosthuizen stated that government had allocated R242-million towards preparation for the stadiums. The five new stadiums will be built at Polokwane, in Limpopo; in the Nelson Mandela Metro, in the Eastern Cape; in KwaZulu-Natal’s eThekweni Metro; in Cape Town; and in Mbombela, in Mpuma-langa.

Stadiums to be refurbished and upgraded include Gauteng’s Ellis Park, Soccer City and Loftus Vers-veld, as well as Vodacom Park, in Bloemfontein, and the Royal Bafo-keng stadium, in North West.

At Mbombela, planning is shooting ahead to meet a 2008 Fifa stadium deadline.

“If everything goes well, we want the contractors to be on site by July or August,” says Mbombela project implementing agent Lawrence Mabasa.

Using the cost estimate of the new Port Elizabeth stadium as a benchmark, Mabasa forecasts that the Mbombela stadium is likely to cost over a billion rands. Although the stadium was originally planned to have a seating capa-city of 25 000, Mabasa explains that Fifa compliance demands that the stadium increase its seating to 45 000.

At the end of the tournament, developers plan to be able to remove 20 000 of the seats – the design, construction and removal of these seats is estimated at R175-million, says Mabasa.

“We do not want to create a white elephant,” says Mabasa.

He says that Fifa officials will be coming to make an inspection of the stadium in 2008.

“By that stage, there needs to be no major work left at the stadium,” says Mabasa He explains that the municipality is currently appointing a project-management team to oversee the design, construction, supervision, contract administration and commissioning of the new stadium.

“The municipality is also about to appoint a professional team to do the overall design of the stadium,” says Mabasa.

The team will include, for instance, an architect, a structural engineer, a civil engineer, a mechanical engineer and an electrical engineer.

At present, he believes that “every- thing is going forward as plann-ed”.

Mabasa says that the Department of Agriculture and Land Affairs has already given permission ‘in principle’ for use of the land allocated for the stadium.

The environmental-impact assessment has been completed, while the geotechnical study for the stadium has also been commissioned. Although Mabasa explains that Mbombela is scheduled to host matches for the tournament, he notes that there are various challenges to the completion of the stadium by the 2008 Fifa deadline.

“We do not know whether the market will be able to accommodate all of the requirements for the project,” says Mabasa.

One of his concerns is the ability of Mbombela to find a suitable contractor.

The Construction Industry De-velopment Board (CIDB), he says, requires that contractors for the stadium have the maximum capacity rating (grade 9). Created to reform and improve the construction sector, the CIDB has 6 000 registered contractors and grades these contractors according to their capacity.

On registration, contractors are graded into one of nine possible categories, with grade one representing low-capacity contractors, able to bid for building work valued at less than R200 000, while grade nine represents the well-established contractors who have the capacity to tackle the largest projects – only a limited amount of companies qualify for this grade, such as Murray & Roberts and Grinaker-LTA. “According to CIDB criteria, com- panies need a grade 9 rating to be able to tender for the project,” says Mabasa. He worries that the limited number of grade 9 contractors might be over-committed owing to other pro- ject work both inside and outside the country.

Another challenge he foresees is a potential lack of concrete, which will be used to build the seats at the stadium. Apart from construction of the actual stadium, significant capital and time are also required for the support- ing infrastructure, which includes the training venues and roads. “The spread of the announced stadiums indicates that government acted swiftly to scrap the imbalance between rugby and soccer fields,” says Oosthuizen.

“Further, we have tilted the scales in respect of stadiums in favour of the people.

“The five new ones will be owned by the municipalities on behalf of the citizens of South Africa.” The Northern Cape is the only province that will not be hosting any of the matches scheduled for the tournament.

i like how these guys are talking at the moment wait till they murry and roberts of this world bring the price slip for the building cost...same thing in china has happend for the 2008 games alot of these projects will be scaled down mark my words

i just cant believe they think spending R1bn in Nelspruit on a stadium makes any sense!!

ideal oppotunity for foreign companies to enter the market as shown by the chineese who got the steel plant upgrade.
the big 5
M&R-Murder and Robery,
Grin/LTA-griniker/lets try again
Group 5
Stocks-Slops and slops
basil read-Build and rebuild
need to lift their game but are under resorced as they are all hitting Dubai (except BR) in a huge way and are pulling SA resorces out to complete in the very profitable Middle east market

more and more and more stadia

Construction set to start on stadium

By Max Matavire Metro Editor

PRELIMINARY planning on the proposed 60 000-seater Ebenezer Park Super Stadium to be built at Algoa Park is complete and construction will start next month.

Marne Malan, spokesman for Innovative Management Centre, the company appointed to run the stadium, said yesterday negotiations with two major sponsors were at “an advanced stage” and an announcement would be made soon.

“The following processes have been completed: project brief, site surveys, technical impact assessment, geo-technical, rezoning, bulk service design, concept architectural design, concept structural design, concept roof design and the estimated budget,” said Malan.

The multi-purpose stadium – which will have a retractable roof, a 32 000 square-metre shopping mall, a 250-room luxury hotel, Olympic standard swimming pool, a hospital, sports academy, indoor all-code sporting facilities, parking for 15 000 vehicles, a 2 500 square metre gym and an innovative ticketing and payment system – is estimated to cost R764-million.

“To give ownership of the complex to the people of Mandela Bay,” said Malan, “Innovative Management Centre intends selling a million shares at R1 000 each to the communities of the Eastern Cape. The company’s sales manager, Clifford Chamberlain, will shortly appoint 200 agents to market the shares.”

Malan said invitations had been extended to the South African Football Association to relocate its regional offices “to this unique facility”, and also to the Southern Spears Super 14 rugby franchise to make this facility their home.

Both organisations confirmed that they had been contacted by the company and said negotiations were going on.

“Further negotiations with other sporting entities will follow,” said Malan.

She said although the planning of the project was not aimed at the 2010 Soccer World Cup, the importance of creating opportunities must not be overlooked.

“Ebenezer Park Super Stadium is planned with the prosperity of local communities in mind, and answers the call by President Thabo Mbeki to involve local communities in broad-based entrepreneurial opportunities,” said Malan.

The members of the board of directors have been appointed. The chairman is ANC MP Lulu Johnson, project co-ordinator Ernest Hewitt and other members Thabo Kubu, Pastor Neville Goldman, Goodman Dyasi, Eddy Muylaert, and Linda Nginza.

Innovative Management Centre’s chief executive officer is Nohle Tabata and T O Mbetshu is the chief operations officer.

Malan said they were not in competition with the government’s R711-million 2010 Soccer World Cup stadium to be built at Prince Alfred Park in North End.

“We are only aiming to provide a benchmark for Africa with the development of a world-class multi-functional recreational facility for Nelson Mandela Bay that will benefit the communities of Mandela Bay as a whole and provide the region with the opportunity to host major sporting events and concerts in a safe and secure environment with all necessary amenities,” said Malan.
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Wasnt Durban going to get something exactly like this? only thing our stadium seated 90 000 people. if its a private stadium, they can forget about getting a game for a world cup, becuase government made it clear, that only part government owned stadia will hold the games, beacuse they also want the revenue for the tickets, thats the reason why our "Sporting complex" collaspesd here in Durbs. Government didnt garuntee them a world cup match.

ideal oppotunity for foreign companies to enter the market as shown by the chineese who got the steel plant upgrade.
the big 5
M&R-Murder and Robery,
Grin/LTA-griniker/lets try again
Group 5
Stocks-Slops and slops
basil read-Build and rebuild
need to lift their game but are under resorced as they are all hitting Dubai (except BR) in a huge way and are pulling SA resorces out to complete in the very profitable Middle east market

I spoke to some guys @ G Liviero & son, they also got some work in Dubai, luks like all the building contractors want so work in Dubai! but the heat is madness there, workers cannot work in that heat! in July it avg 48degrees excluding the humidity!

its hell on site so we have 4hr breaks during the day. we cast mostly at night anyway cos the concrete does not set unless you chill it.

so wat projexs u working on SA BOY? & which company?
did u go to that new ski slope they opened up @ one of the malls?

I have skied at the Mall of the Emirates and its great. Have a mate who is the development manager and we had a pre opening ski.
I work for a developer and have recently completed the 75 Story 320 meter Four Seasons tower is Dubai

City moves on Green Point stadium advert

February 21, 2006

By John Yeld

An advertisement calling for "expressions of interest" from top developers, planners and architects to help build Cape Town's R1.28 billion, 65 000-seat domed stadium at Green Point should appear in local newspapers tomorrow.

The joint city-province 2010 soccer World Cup project team hopes to appoint the successful bidder by April 12.

This winning team of professionals, who will include economic development specialists, must produce a business plan for the long-term viability and sustainable operation of the stadium.

They must also come up with a detailed design to allow the expected consortium of contractors, who will probably include overseas experts, to start building at the end of next January.

The project team hopes to have the business plan and the environmental impact assessment (EIA), which must be done because of rezoning requirements, completed by mid-August.

According to the project team's planning schedule, another advertisement calling for building contractors should go out in the second week of September.

This was revealed in an interview yesterday with Teral Cullen, director of the City's 2010 soccer World Cup office.

Noting that media advertisements calling for expressions of interest to build Durban's new stadium - another of the five new stadiums being planned for the 2010 sporting extravaganza - had appeared at the weekend, Cullen said Cape Town would have to act quickly to get its own advertisement out tomorrow.

Cullen, a geologist who has an MBA and several years' experience at the South African Football Association (Safa) to her name, said the joint 2010 team had identified 20 projects, of which "infrastructure" was one. The Green Point stadium was a component of the infrastructure project.

The decision to site the new stadium on the Green Point Common had been taken jointly by Fifa - the international football association which organises the competition - Safa and the government, in consultation with the province and City, Cullen confirmed.

This meant that while the choice of a preferred site and an alternative site - a requirement of the EIA - both on the Common, were still open for discussion, it was a non-negotiable that Green Point was the venue.

Because of time pressure, some of the legal processes were being started now, ahead of the appointment of the professional team.
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"Those notably will be the EIA, heritage impact assessment, geotechnical (soil) tests, and that kind of process," she said.

"But the main thrust is that we need to get this consortium of professionals on board, which we are hoping to do by April 12, and that's primarily to do with the procurement processes."

Cullen said the project team had initially considered managing the stadium construction as a "turnkey" project under one overall contract.

"That is, we design and construct simultaneously," she explained.

"We might have been able to save on time if we (the city) did more detailed design upfront, depending on what's happening in the industry - for example, we've been alerted that there is some movement in the industry and there could be consolidation and some joint bids.

"But none of the other cities is going the turnkey route - they're doing a full design first and then going into the construction phase.

"So right now our team of professionals (at the city) feel we must do minimal design, and leave it to the design contract consortium to do the bulk of it."

Cullen said the rezoning application was the critical first step in the project, and this would include the impact and heritage assessments which would involve the public.

Because of the proposed road from the Green Point traffic circle to Beach Road at the Waterfront - between the planned development on the Somerset Hospital site and Fort Wynyard - the initial idea had been to site the new stadium on the Metropolitan golf course, whose lease expires in 2009.

"To make that road a reality, which would add so much value to people, we think the stadium should be on the golf course," she said.

"However, there have been no geotech tests or anything else done yet, and we can't talk to people now simply because we haven't done the scientific stuff yet.

"Our approach as the core team is not to upset people - we're going to approach them in an open forum to negotiate.

"I think the stadium is going to be good for all and we're going to try to find solutions for everybody, as far as possible."

^^ are they looking for any specific design aspects? like themes? I know lets design a stadium that looks like tabel Mountain! or Robin Island!

I have skied at the Mall of the Emirates and its great. Have a mate who is the development manager and we had a pre opening ski.
I work for a developer and have recently completed the 75 Story 320 meter Four Seasons tower is Dubai

Cool man, u know when u look @ all the other careers out there & compare them to ones in the construction place, whether it be design or co-ordination or contracting, atleast we can see wat we've done. Have some pride about ourselves, so when u drive past it u can say "I helped to build that!"

^^ are they looking for any specific design aspects? like themes? I know lets design a stadium that looks like tabel Mountain! or Robin Island!

and let me guess your staduim in durbs will be designed as a giant buny chow lol

Cool man, u know when u look @ all the other careers out there & compare them to ones in the construction place, whether it be design or co-ordination or contracting, atleast we can see wat we've done. Have some pride about ourselves, so when u drive past it u can say "I helped to build that!"
problem is that I have worked all over the world and never get to see my projects once I have finnished and left. Only the office buildings in Durban that I did many years ago up on the ridge

and let me guess your staduim in durbs will be designed as a giant buny chow lol
Hey good idea, the roof can be that piece of bread that lifts of from the top!
there we go a retractable roof ! Hsark u got some gud ideas

problem is that I have worked all over the world and never get to see my projects once I have finnished and left. Only the office buildings in Durban that I did many years ago up on the ridge
Thats a shame, but at least u travelling alot! I'm glued on this chair looking @ my pc all the time, the only time I go to site is when major problems arise or if they having site party's :) :cheers: :drunk: :cheers2:

Hey good idea, the roof can be that piece of bread that lifts of from the top!
there we go a retractable roof ! Hsark u got some gud ideas

lol so talking about food whats the best dish in durban as ill be going there for the hols i here the curry is legendary anything else like seafood ?

lol so talking about food whats the best dish in durban as ill be going there for the hols i here the curry is legendary anything else like seafood ?
the bunny chows, or some drunk & raved up kids will tell u to go to johnnys rottie in overport @ 2 in the morn for some chow. Seafood I would say Agrutta in Florida Road or Cafe Fish! & if u go to splashers thier chicken termador is good stuff (but to eat it u must be really hungry!)
or as my friends from toti would suggest the KFC, its amazing how everybody in Toti luvs KFC! I promise i shouldnt like KFC becuase it was oily & fatty but after I met my friend from Toti he changed my perspective on it & now I luv it!

Or if u cant find any decent chow joint just go to Spiga'`Doro on Florida Road, they never let u down!

Cafe Fish is good for seafood and has some of the best views of Durban - get there early for sundowners upstairs. Then head nextdoor to Wilson's Wharf for drinks at Zacks after dinner.

or a personal favourite of mine...9th Avenue Bistro...always a winner...and if you want a DAMN good steak, Joop's Place next door is heaven

steak sounds good to me wheres the 9th avenue bistro?

in 9th avenue....hehe, near florida road. if you travel up argyle road from the beach. u will pass florida road on ur right. carry on going and 200m u will reach 9th avenue. take a left turn and its 50m or so along the road

ahh schweet looking foward to it will make a note of it....

9th Ave Bistro is a must - great vibe especially at night!

Long as the food is good, thats all that matters

last thing u want is ur little brother/sister saying "when ur bum is blue and is full of poo diarrhea diarrhea "

when u walking up the attic & it comes out automatic diarrhea diarrhea!

south africa has secured business and sponsorship deals in 2006 that already exceeds those for germany 2006

its a few months to germany 2006 and the hype/spotlight hasnt really shifted towards them...the opposite for south africa, i think we have bee receiving excellent coverage especially for the period just before another world cup

one of the suggestions for the 2010 stadium in greenpoint is to provide a roof structure allowing natural light in and allows spectators or the maximum amount of spectators a view of table mountain at all times...mainly upper tiers of spectators..however if offices are to be incoporated into or around the stadium, a glass facade towards the upper levels similar to that of wembley is possible..

the IOC will be watching closely as cape town prepares to build an olympic sized stadium within 3 years...where as athens struggled to put a roof over and existing stadium in 7 years, and wembley...well thats another long story...

a massive shortage of rooms exists in cape town and durban...although solutions are being found, the extent of the shortage is not being revealed,...cape town will naturally see developments and new hotels, with an increse in 2008, however some program is in the pipelines similar to that of sydney 2000, whereby people would offer to host spectators...

rumour rumour rumour has it that the current mayor will push for the culemborg area to be used instead for student housing, and possibly a temporary home for the media during the world cup, however the location might prove to be very tempting for the private sector who are hungry for the land...

plans are underward to provide major and some minor african countries each with a football field that meets the quality and all FIFA requirements..this will involve fifa and the LOC...people will be brought in from other parts of africa to help organize 2010 and ensure that their country benefits as well

south africa will present the finals stadium and host city contracts later this month i think, about on year earlier than the planned date of january/february 2007, in this way south africa is ahead of schedule..this was confirmed by FIFA's communications director if im not mistaken

on a lighter note SAFA WP is pissed off that athlone stadium wont be used as a match venue..

...where as athens struggled to put a roof over and existing stadium in 7 years

hehe Athens did have the Olympic comitee's shitting in their pants with that one! But it was a pretty hectic roof with its main supports on its ends & I think the whole roof was fused together on the ground then it was lifted & tilted to cover the stands, but they should have started early to complete it early. Thats why strict measures were placed on Beijing for its stadium & do the Olmpic body emply the rule of if the host city isnt ready for the olympics, the city that hosted it before will host it again, as the ICC employs for the Cricket World Cup?

hehe Athens did have the Olympic comitee's shitting in their pants with that one! But it was a pretty hectic roof with its main supports on its ends & I think the whole roof was fused together on the ground then it was lifted & tilted to cover the stands, but they should have started early to complete it early. Thats why strict measures were placed on Beijing for its stadium & do the Olmpic body emply the rule of if the host city isnt ready for the olympics, the city that hosted it before will host it again, as the ICC employs for the Cricket World Cup?

while u on it i might as well post updates on the beijing 2008 olympic stadium

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im sure most of you have seen these already though...

WOW.. that's impressive! Makes me feel all bubbly and fuzzy inside....

I'm feeling butterflies in my stomach too but I think that primarily due to nervousness. These pics give a good impression of the scale of building a world-class stadium. We're building at least 5 new stadiums, almost on this scale, and ALL at the SAME time (plus upgrading others). Do we have the engineering capacity to do so simultaneously?? Unless we urgently recruit/import some foreign engineering expats we're going to get waay behind on our stadium building. That would be a disaster for SA and the image of Africa in general.

hehe.. I bet you half of them are sitting in Beijing getting paid wads of money to do that. Same in Dubai. But I do agree that it is nerve-wrecking. Best gets our asses off the ground.

impressive stadium...but the pollution in the sky is scary...it is the worlds most polluted city right? must do something about that!!

Do we have the engineering capacity to do so simultaneously?? Unless we urgently recruit/import some foreign engineering expats we're going to get waay behind on our stadium building. That would be a disaster for SA and the image of Africa in general.
hehe they have us here, we all got some brilliant Ideas, I am sure we can buy our engineering degrees from somewhere. :jk:

nah we got plenty guys here, of course we will call outside eng to oversea the project & go through the designs for giudlines.

Fifa's 2010 HQ launched

22 November 2005

President Thabo Mbeki and Fifa president Sepp Blatter attended the launch of contruction on Safa House in Soweto on Monday.

The building, with its distinctive football-shaped dome, will be the headquarters of Fifa and the local organising committee during the 2010 World Cup.

Joburg landmark
The Safa House complex will house the headquarters of both the SA Football Association (Safa) and the Premier Soccer League. It will also host the Safa Academy, a training facility for elite level coaches and players.

The complex will consist of at least 100 offices for Fifa with all the modern conveniences that a world-class organisation requires. It is to be a technologically "smart" development, built on environmentally sound principles.

The building will be dominated by the football-shaped dome on the roof. The dome will be well-lit at night and visible from the air and the ground as a defining landmark for the city of Johannesburg.

The complex was designed by South African firms Boogertman and Partners and Urban Edge Architects.

Soccer City
The duplex will be constructed on the eastern side of the FNB stadium. Safa president Molefi Oliphant said the building would be ready for occupation within a year.

"Effectively, the 2010 Fifa World Cup will be run from Soccer City," Oliphant said. "This is highly symbolic since it will also be the first time that a Fifa World Cup will be played in a stadium owned by a football association."

"We look forward to working in the environment that will be provided by the new complex", said Danny Jordaan, CEO of the local organising committee. "We thank the South African government for its continued unflinching commitment to the cause of this Fifa World Cup".

SouthAfrica.info reporter

Old news but the design is fairly uninspiring except for the glass football dome in the entrance exhibition space..should be done in a years time or less...ground work has already started...

Blatter slams World Cup ticketing
Fifa president Sepp Blatter
Blatter is frustrated at dealings over ticket sales
Fifa president Sepp Blatter has criticised the ticketing arrangements for this summer's World Cup in Germany.

The handling of sales by the German Football Association has frustrated Blatter, who wants Fifa to take control for the 2010 finals in South Africa.

"The Germans have chosen a system that I don't understand at all," he told Swiss newspaper NZZ am Sonntag.

"I don't know how many meetings we've had about it. We're just not making any progress with the German FA."

He added: "I don't understand it. I distanced myself from it from the start but in the end I'm guilty anyway. In South Africa 2010 we'll take over the ticketing again."

The 3.3 million tickets are embedded with microchips and issued to individuals, who will face recognition scanners at the stadiums' turnstiles.

And, while Blatter thinks the system is too intricate, organisers say it is for security reasons.

The idea is to eliminate stolen or counterfeit tickets as well as keeping ticket brokers or others from inflating the price.

"In Germany they have to really try if they want to recreate what happened in 2002 in South Korea or in 1998 in France," said Blatter.

"They have to prove that the World Cup will be as good as the expectations."

4.0 SCOPE OF WORKS
4.1 Were Durban to be selected as a semi-final venue, the requirement to satisfy the FIFA
2010 World Cup tournament is a 70 000 seat stadium
4.2 The 70 000 seater stadium is envisaged to have a:
· permanent “legacy” stadium of around 45 000 permanent seats
· temporary “overlay” stadium of around 25 000 seats
4.3 The ‘overlay’ temporary stadium would need to be constructed in a manner which is:
· cost effective and economical to limit the initial capital cost of the stadium.
· able to be dismantled and re-erected at an existing stadium
4.4 The stadium should ideally in addition to football & rugby have the necessary flexibility
to accommodate Field and Track events for athletics, subject to the technical and
functional viability of such potential. It is envisaged that were this to be feasible the
seating “tribunes” would need to be capable of being mechanically moved to create the
optimum seating and sightline configuration for whichever sporting code is being
hosted in the stadium.
4.5 The stadium must be planned in a manner which allows it to be altered in the future to
accommodate maximum of 100 000 seats on a non-permanent basis.
4.6 The stadium, as an “ICON”, must be a lot more than just a sports venue. Accordingly
such elements as a museum, art centre, etc facilities ought to be considered to make
the icon a desirable destination venue for residents and visitors alike.
4.7 Given Durban’s reputation as a ‘sports and events’ city and the unique site location of
the stadium, the EM wishes the stadium to be an recognised “ICON” that is
internationally recognised and become associated with Durban and vice versa.
4.8 The completed stadium needs to be flexible, cost effective and “ICONIC” such that is
regarded by sports athletes, officials, media and spectators as having a unique quality
and a desirable “sense of place” which will be a hallmark of its reputation in the sports
world.

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so there durbsboi..durbs is getting a 100,000 seater

:banana: Yeh baby, can u dig it suckers 100 000 seater whoa! :pepper:

great stuff MO!!! Where did u find all that?

And the spotlight falls on cape town


Cape Town is set to become the dramatic backdrop to the 2010 FIFA World Cup. With its spectacular natural beauty, its long history and diverse cultures, Cape Town will play host to the family of nations celebrating the best of football in the first World Cup to be played in Africa. Not only the profile of Cape Town and our friendly people, but the capabilities of our country and continent will be beamed across the world to billions of fans, future visitors, investors and friends. 2010 offers a major opportunity to showcase the best we have to offer.
The vision for Green Point is a sport and recreation precinct including a world-class 68 000 seat stadium linking the popular Victoria & Alfred Waterfront to the Central Business District (CBD), the Cape Town International Convention Centre (CTICC), the Atlantic Seaboard and the Table Mountain National Park with the metropolitan area of Cape Town and the hinterland of the Western Cape Province. Set in one of the most beautiful cities in the world, the stadium will be proudly owned and regularly used by all the people of Cape Town. Through affordable public and non-motorised transport, it will be accessible to rich and poor, black and white, female and male, locals and visitors. The Green Point Stadium will be the place to meet to cheer their teams, to hear their favourite musicians, to picnic with their families or simply to wander amiably in safe and pleasant surroundings.
The City of Cape Town, as the contracting authority, in partnership with the Provincial Government of the Western Cape and the National Government, therefore invites proposals for the design, development and financial sustainability planning of the Green Point Stadium and precinct to enable the City to host semi-final matches for the 2010 FIFA World Cup, as well as a wide range of national and international events before and after 2010. The City of Cape Town will be calling for private sector proposals from facility operators as it is envisaged the stadium’s operational costs should be covered after July 2010. It is important to note that the brief is for the professional team and does not include the contractor who will be appointed before the end of 2006 once the design development is at an advanced stage.
In order to fulfil FIFA requirements, the stadium is to be completed by December 2008



Development Concept

The Green Point Stadium and Common is currently an under-utilised public open space and prime site for this development. Through this development, the City and Province intend to catapult city-wide growth, attracting visitors and tourists, investment, while creating jobs and opening a multitude of new opportunities for sporting, leisure and entertainment events on a scale not yet seen in our city.
In keeping with FIFA’s minimum requirements for a semi-final venue, the Green Point Stadium will be transformed into a completely new 68 000 seater, all-weather, multi-purpose, environmentally sustainable, modern, technologically advanced, world class Stadium giving expression to the “African Renaissance Stadium” at the juncture between Table Mountain and the Atlantic Ocean at the southern tip of Africa. The uniquely impressive and recognisable visuals that this African landmark Stadium will offer the world will be of great marketing value to our continent and country. The new Stadium will comply fully with FIFA Match Stadium requirements. A summarised list of the FIFA stadium requirements is attached.

The 80 hectares of the current Green Point Common will be similarly transformed to become a People’s Park like the internationally known Hyde Park in London and Central Park in New York. The new Common must become as much a feature of Cape Town and the Western Cape as Table Mountain, the Cape Flats, the Winelands, the Garden Route and the Klein Karoo. An integrated plan will establish a world-class park, catering for events, sports, heritage, leisure, and relaxation in a landscaped space with indigenous trees, gardens and water features. Attention must be paid to any heritage aspects of the site as there is a high likelihood of encountering human remains on the common. A memorial park for the reburial of the human remains may have to be developed on the site. The current Fort Wynyard site appears to be a suitable site. All the land on the Green Point Common belongs to the City.
Green Point Common historically is home to a host of recreational users and it is regarded as an integral part of an upgraded urban park as a backdrop for the proposed Stadium. The Team is not required to re-plan this area but cognisance has to be given to optimise the potential of this asset as part of an active and passive recreational public space whilst promoting its integration with economic opportunities and ecological integrity.
The City of Cape Town has committed to build a 68,000 seat stadium at Green Point to host games for the 2010 FIFA World Cup, with net capacity of 65 000 seats. The estimated total cost of the project is anticipated to be in the order of some R1.2bn. This estimate needs to be confirmed during Phase 1 of the Project.
The stated objective of the City is that access to the stadium will be largely (80:20 split) dependant on non-motorised and public transport. FIFA requires at least a 50:50 split between private and public transport access to the stadium.
The planning process must take cognisance of ongoing work of the City, Provincial and National governments and parastatals.
Within the constraints of the Green Point Common title deeds, the Team is urged to propose complimentary activities with respect to sport and recreation for the benefit of all the people of Cape Town.
The operator of the Green Point Stadium will be sourced shortly through a separate Request for Proposals to enable a close working relationship between the design team and a financially sustainable model for the operation of the Stadium in the medium to long term.

34 Months to Build Green Point's World Cup Stadium

February 24, 2006

City of Cape town places advertisements calling for proposals to design, plan and manage construction of the planned new stadium at Greenpoint.

March 20, 2006

Cut-off date for questions about the proposal call

March 22, 2006

Final answers to questions provided

March 27, 2006

Noon-cut off for formal submissions of proposals

March 31, 2006

City Completes Urban Design Framework for Green Point Precinct

April 6, 2006

City Announces successful bidder(s): the "Team"

June 30, 2006

Costed concept and initial building plan to be completed

early July 2006

Environmental Impact Assessments completed and RoD (Record of decision, a statutory requirement) issued

Mid-September 2006

Rezoning application to be completd

October 31, 2006

Detailed design and detailed business plan for stadium completed

December 21, 2006

Detailed designs and detailed businesss plan for the Green Point Precinct (incorporating the stadium plans)

January 2007

Construction Begins

December 31, 2008

Construction of stadium to be completed for FIFA insection.

June/July 2010

Cape Town welcomes the world at the opening ceremony.

On March 27 proposals for the African Rennaisance Stadium at Green Point are expected to arrive in the Mother City from across the globe.

Rumour has it, apart from a possible wembley arch system for the retractable roof, a more conservative approach will follow the concept of this stadium, the Telstra Dome in melbourne.

The large area of play would allow for athletics, football, rugby, cricket and other indoor events. The athletics track would then be constructed in the same fashion as the MCG but would remain in the stadium permanently, with the use of retractable seating 70,000 during football mode and 55,000 for cricket, athletics and other sports.http://www.breakloose.com.au/photopost/data/527/10BFOM_1.jpg

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any chane of us seeing any of the local staduims?

huh?

huh?
I think wat bully boy is trying to say is, when can we see renders of our stadiums. Pretoria ppl have trouble trying to say wat they want. :jk:

It will be nice for CT to get a stadium like the Telstra dome that way if ur'll get ur ball buster winds there, ur'll can always close the roof...........BUT do ur'll have that kind of Electricity to open & close the roof????????????????????????????
:rofl: just imagine the opening ceremony, the wind starts to swirl in & around the stadium, the deco is blowing everywhere, so they decide to close the roof, then as its half way thru the power go's! the whole of CT is in the dark again!

I think we need a stadium like that in durbs, that way we can play indoor cricki with our tropical weather whether it rains or not! & it will be a magnate for bands to have concerts there.

but the durban arena is for concerts....

^^ wat durban arena? the ICC one? that only holds 10 000, we need more 45 000,
how many tickets got sold for the cola lab?

GRRRR! @durbsboi :)

yeh but most concerts that come to SA are small (the durban arena will hold 15000 for concerts - more than enough for most acts). dont forget that the dome and belville velodrome are also small. only the really huge acts need massive arena's...like the 50 000 for robbie williams and how ever many go to the colab, for those they can continue to use the absa stadium.

Durban should get a simmilar stadium to the new suncorp in brissie. best stadium I have been in by a country mile

^^Suncorp? it okay, post a pic of it pleez

^^Suncorp? it okay, post a pic of it pleez

i fully agree with you...but u see durban wants something "iconic" u know? with big african horns and some indian inspired art and zebra stripes...so suncorp would be too plain and simple....suncorp is excellent and i love it too, it really scores high in terms of functionality and spectator friendlyness...http://www.srq.qld.gov.au/images/facilities/installations/Suncorp%20Stadium.jpg

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Yuk, that ugly piece of shit! no way jose! the inside looks okay but the outside, uh uh! I am sick & tired of rectangles! giv it sum shape for god sake!

yeh it isnt the best looker, but i'm sure it is user friendly like giles said.

And mo they not gonna have horns on it...actually...that could so be incorporated and look nice! ooh...my mind starts to race

yeh it isnt the best looker, but i'm sure it is user friendly like giles said.

And mo they not gonna have horns on it...actually...that could so be incorporated and look nice! ooh...my mind starts to race
yeah i know im just kidding with ya

Man talk about idea's going through ur head! any idea on when the deadline for the Durban stadium is? Cause yesterday I had some hevy fever, so I was knocked out in my bed, but I having these dreams of stadiums (no I dont have problems! I dream about other things too like cars & woman) yeh but anyway, dreamt up this idea of a cool stadium for Durbs, similar to Satdio Drago stadium in Portugal, I am hoping to start designing it today, maybe by next week it will be up in the Idea's thread.

is is posting ideas for stadia for whoever...so u are must be inspiring to design an think ideas k?

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one of my dreams...( a bit far fetched) for greenpoint staidum

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^^ that was one of the designs for Beijing 2006

^^ that was one of the designs for Beijing 2008

Wow! Now that's a great looking stadium!!
Afraid I also don't like the looks of the Brisbane stadium.

^^ that was one of the designs for Beijing 2006

yeah one of thirteen...most of them better than the stupid birds nest design i think,

South Africa Needs Serious Tech Work Ahead Of World Cup

March 15, 2006 2:30 a.m. EST

Matthew Borghese - All Headline News Staff Writer

Pretoria, South Africa (AHN) - Companies are warning the South African government that there must be a "major investment" in the nation's telecommunications industry if it is to successfully host the 2010 World Cup.

National broadcast infrastructure company, Sentech, says that a combination of an old infrastructure and a lack of replacement parts may result in "chaos" if the system fails.

In a report to parliament, the communications committee admits billions of rand are needed to prevent a catastrophic television failure when South Africa becomes the first African nation to host the World Cup.

Sentech chairman Colin Hickling tells officials, "The pool of technicians available to maintain the equipment is almost depleted as many have reached retirement age."

The condition is made worse by the fact that FIFA wants the World Cup to be broadcast in High-Definition television (HDTV), while Sentech says that is simply impossible.

yeah one of thirteen...most of them better than the stupid birds nest design i think,
Totally agree with you man, those other designs were superb! there was this other design with a retractable roof that opens in an angle, my god that looked nice!

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Found this article. Don't know if it's been posted before but I found it rather surprising. Seems the opening ceremony for the world cup isn't a big deal.


Opening Ceremony for 2006 World Cup Cancelled

FIFA have cancelled the opening gala for the World Cup finals in Germany thought to be because of mounting costs - rumoured to be £17mn and slow ticket sales.
Sepp Blatter said "FIFA hasn't taken a decision to cancel lightly but sporting considerations are crucial". Blatter went on "I would like to thank artistic director Andre Heller and everyone involved for their commitment and their understanding of this decision. Personally, I still think the idea of holding such a high-profile opening event is a good one."

A statement on the FIFA website said: "We still believe in the considerable merits of a separate opening event and will work on proposals regarding the possibility of holding such an event in 2010."

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there'll be one for 2010 alright...even if sepp blatter has to arrange the opening himself...opening ceremony cape town with opening match prob soccer city, allows the field time to recover..but the stage designs these days as we saw in melbourne allow for minimal damage to the field of play..

SOUTH AFRICA
Global firms take a shine to 2010 stadium

March 17, 2006

By John Yeld

Just over 50 companies responded on the first day of Cape Town's proposal call for bidders to plan and manage construction of the new African Renaissance Stadium at Green Point.

Since then a steady stream of inquiries have been arriving at the city's 2010 soccer World Cup office, including from international firms in Korea, England and Ireland.

The proposal call for the 68 000-seater, R1.2-billion stadium project that must be completed by December 2008, ahead of the 2010 World Cup tournament, was advertised on February 24.

Teral Cullen, director of the 2010 office, said there had been "ongoing" responses since the first day. The first set of questions from potential bidders - which had been wide-ranging but mainly technical in nature - had been received last Thursday and had been answered by the start of this week.

The cut-off date for questions about the proposal call is Monday, final answers to questions will be provided by the city by Wednesday, and the deadline for the formal submission of proposals is March 27.

The city is due to announce the successful bidders by April 6.

The international bidders had been reminded that the proposal call was "very specific" that a South African company had to head any bid, Cullen said. "We advised them to be in touch with South African companies."

A city consultancy, The Environmental Partnership, has been appointed to manage the environmental impact assessment process and the specialist studies that include geotechnical aspects of the site, archaeology, the visual impact, the urban design framework, title deed restrictions, regional transport, town planning and environmental factors.
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Cullen said these consultants had already submitted a draft schedule that included a public participation process, starting on April 11.
"They will be making a presentation to us (today), where that (schedule) will be refined."

A member of Cape Town's planning fraternity, who asked not to be because his company is a member of a bidding team, said "just about every firm in the city" had become involved in the bidding process.

This is because the proposal call to design and develop the new stadium, and plan its financially sustainable management for the medium to long term, requires a multi-disciplinary team.

It will be expected to include a project manager, architects, quantity and land surveyors, structural, mechanical, electrical, traffic and civil engineers, specialised town planners and economic development consultants and have access to international partners.

"People are running around madly and nearly every firm has been drawn in - the list is really long," the planner said.

Er what happens if it rains in cape town? that would give a terrible impression of SA. Have the opening ceremony in Durbs or Jozi. I shudder to think of an opening ceremony on one of those grey blustery cape wintery days which i love to bits but It wouldnt exactly be 'sunny south africa'

i dont get the point of opening ceremony one city and the match in another. and we'll wait and see about that cape town thingy...wishful thinking in my mind

finally mike says what i have been saying for weeks!!! a CT opening would be a PR disaster for the city and country. and CT with the "lovely" winter can hardly be the face of the world cup...cos thats not a face someone in marketing would want...maybe if the games were in summer...but not in winter

SA marketing must set its goal for 2010

(Residential) Much has been written about the potential positive impact on the South African property market of the Football World Cup in 2010, but a closer look at the lessons of the Olympics in Athens means a lot of work needs to be done – especially in marketing South Africa.

Barak Geffen, executive director of Sotheby’s International Realty SA says: “There is a lot to be learned from the Greek Olympic experience on how best to sell South Africa as a desirable country and etch ourselves into the minds of tourists and investors for a long time to come.”

Geffen says that Greece, in his view, did not fully capitalise on the Olympics to promote itself and its property market to the extent that former Olympic host cities Barcelona and Sydney did - and lost out on some the benefits of hosting a major international event.

“Perhaps they were a little complacent and thought that because they had secured an event like the Olympics, people would come running. The key learning is that Barcelona and Sydney went out of their way to make themselves outsider and investor friendly and strongly promote themselves through a fantastic marketing effort as a great place to buy a second home.

“And the Spanish in particular are probably the best in the world at selling their own property and the relaxed Spanish lifestyle.

“This has translated into a massive job creation and social upliftment through increased tourism and a very favourable country perception. Just think if South Africa could increase its visitors by tens of millions a year to get close to the number of people who visit Spain each year; we would have an incredible success story for job and wealth creation. Around 60 000 UK citizens bought a home in Spain in 2003.”

Geffen says when Sydney hosted the Olympics in 2000, they pushed Sydney, not just as a city, but the whole of Australia as a desirable place to tour, live and own property.

“There was a unified strategy between the government, the tourist board and the property industry. We can’t afford to just promote the cities that will host World Cup games. We also need to promote the true spirit of South Africa as a highly desirable investment friendly and stable country.”

Geffen says SA property prices are likely to receive a major fillip from 2010 – if the World Cup is a success.

“Paris property prices escalated by as much as 55% over a one-year period before and after the 2002 World Cup in France and properties across the city made astronomical gains with apartments close to some of the stadia rocketing by over 100% over the same period.

“And some neglected neighbourhoods were completely rejuvenated. The same sort of boost will happen in SA too because although we have had a good run, our property is still undervalued in global terms and the macroeconomic outlook is very favourable.”

Geffen notes that hosting an Olympic Games or World Cup encourages urban regeneration and is usually accompanied by an improvement in facilities, transport links and overall infrastructure.

“Well planned government expenditure aimed at local regeneration will give impetus to host cities in creating a more suitable and attractive inner-city environment – that’s because public infrastructure that would otherwise have taken years to complete due to red tape will now be fast-tracked.

“For example, the R7-billion Gautrain high-speed service between Johannesburg and Pretoria will certainly be completed in time for the 2010 World Cup, creating a wealth corridor and increased property values across both cities.

“Other projects that stand to benefit from the event include Coega’s giant ‘signature bridge’, the Statue of Freedom in Port Elizabeth and Durban’s new international airport at La Mercy, North of Durban. All of these will be fast-tracked into reality by 2010.

“However, most of the benefits come in the form of multiplier effects of each rand spent on all goods and services in the economy leading up to, during and after the event. The increased health of the economy will have the biggest overall effect on property prices.”

SA marketing must set its goal for 2010

(Residential) Much has been written about the potential positive impact on the South African property market of the Football World Cup in 2010, but a closer look at the lessons of the Olympics in Athens means a lot of work needs to be done – especially in marketing South Africa.

Barak Geffen, executive director of Sotheby’s International Realty SA says: “There is a lot to be learned from the Greek Olympic experience on how best to sell South Africa as a desirable country and etch ourselves into the minds of tourists and investors for a long time to come.”

Geffen says that Greece, in his view, did not fully capitalise on the Olympics to promote itself and its property market to the extent that former Olympic host cities Barcelona and Sydney did - and lost out on some the benefits of hosting a major international event.

“Perhaps they were a little complacent and thought that because they had secured an event like the Olympics, people would come running. The key learning is that Barcelona and Sydney went out of their way to make themselves outsider and investor friendly and strongly promote themselves through a fantastic marketing effort as a great place to buy a second home.

“And the Spanish in particular are probably the best in the world at selling their own property and the relaxed Spanish lifestyle.

“This has translated into a massive job creation and social upliftment through increased tourism and a very favourable country perception. Just think if South Africa could increase its visitors by tens of millions a year to get close to the number of people who visit Spain each year; we would have an incredible success story for job and wealth creation. Around 60 000 UK citizens bought a home in Spain in 2003.”

Geffen says when Sydney hosted the Olympics in 2000, they pushed Sydney, not just as a city, but the whole of Australia as a desirable place to tour, live and own property.

“There was a unified strategy between the government, the tourist board and the property industry. We can’t afford to just promote the cities that will host World Cup games. We also need to promote the true spirit of South Africa as a highly desirable investment friendly and stable country.”

Geffen says SA property prices are likely to receive a major fillip from 2010 – if the World Cup is a success.

“Paris property prices escalated by as much as 55% over a one-year period before and after the 2002 World Cup in France and properties across the city made astronomical gains with apartments close to some of the stadia rocketing by over 100% over the same period.

“And some neglected neighbourhoods were completely rejuvenated. The same sort of boost will happen in SA too because although we have had a good run, our property is still undervalued in global terms and the macroeconomic outlook is very favourable.”

Geffen notes that hosting an Olympic Games or World Cup encourages urban regeneration and is usually accompanied by an improvement in facilities, transport links and overall infrastructure.

“Well planned government expenditure aimed at local regeneration will give impetus to host cities in creating a more suitable and attractive inner-city environment – that’s because public infrastructure that would otherwise have taken years to complete due to red tape will now be fast-tracked.

“For example, the R7-billion Gautrain high-speed service between Johannesburg and Pretoria will certainly be completed in time for the 2010 World Cup, creating a wealth corridor and increased property values across both cities.

“Other projects that stand to benefit from the event include Coega’s giant ‘signature bridge’, the Statue of Freedom in Port Elizabeth and Durban’s new international airport at La Mercy, North of Durban. All of these will be fast-tracked into reality by 2010.

“However, most of the benefits come in the form of multiplier effects of each rand spent on all goods and services in the economy leading up to, during and after the event. The increased health of the economy will have the biggest overall effect on property prices.”


very very old article where you dig it out?

umm...it was written yesterday...

umm...it was written yesterday...

nope.read it last year.
2010 'good for property'
26/09/2005 14:39 PM
By: Property24 Reporter

well it was newly posted on another website...but does the technicality really REALLY matter?? its the content that counts, not the date of whatever.

well it was newly posted on another website...but does the technicality really REALLY matter?? its the content that counts, not the date of whatever.
very true but i posted it last year when it came out.
but it actually doesnt matter..im just grumpy with a hangover.

VENUES ARE OFFICIAL

FIFA names 2010 Cup stadiums
From correspondents in Zurich
March 18, 2006

FIFA has named the 10 stadiums that will host matches at the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.

South Africa's World Cup Local Organising Committee (LOC) said last week that a 68,000-capacity all-weather arena – Green Point stadium – would be built in Cape Town; and that the 2010 World Cup final would be held at a refurbished FNB Stadium in Johannesburg.

The rest of the stadiums are: Ellis Park, Johannesburg; Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria; Royal Bafokeng, Rustenburg; Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein; Kings Park, Durban; Peter Mokaba, Polokwane; Mbombela, Nelspruit; and Nelson Mandela Metro, Port Elizabeth.

The world governing body's executive committee also ruled out taking any further action against FIFA vice president Jack Warner after he was accused of a conflict of interest involving World Cup tickets.

Warner had owned a travel company called Simpaul in Trinidad and Tobago.

Warner acted correctly in "ensuring that Simpaul obeyed the ticketing rules and regulations and finally with him and his wife leaving the company," FIFA said in a statement.

FIFA also confirmed the breakdown of qualifying places for the men's and women's tournaments at the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing.

Of the 16 teams participating in the men's tournament, four berths will go to the Asian federation with China as host automatically guaranteed a place.

UEFA members will also get four places, while Africa and the CONCACAF are ensured of three each, South America two and Oceania the final place.


FIFA also approved its Task Force for the Good of the Game report, which presents proposals on rule changes for ownership of clubs, player transfers, agents, betting and club licensing.

CHECK IT OUT

the 2010 SITE is up and running

http://www.fifa.com/en/comp/FWC/tournament/0,6416,FWC-2010-30,00.html

OK im confused????

Stadium

King’s Park, located near the harbour, currently seats just over 52000 people. It was the stage for the nail-biting game in which England beat South Africa 2-1 in 2003. South Africa’s national football team Bafana Bafana, also played their first post-apartheid international game versus Cameroon in 1992 at King’s Park. After its upgrade, the stadium should seat 60,000.

surely FIFA would have updated information?

umm..u would think....and since when is it located next to the harbour??? i'm begining to think FIFA is a useless organisation

^^ I think FIFA are confused, & I have a feeling that SAFA is not keeping FIFA up to date in its developments i.e brand news stadiams for Durban etc.

^^ I think FIFA are confused, & I have a feeling that SAFA is not keeping FIFA up to date in its developments i.e brand news stadiams for Durban etc.

i actually dont think its FIFA's fault, they are in constant contact with the LOC, especially since the venues only became official a few days ago..FIFA at the end of the day still decide on the venues..im not sure where the blame lies...it is weird though...u guys here the durban premier has his own sex tape? lol

things are hectic this week, in 7 days time the stadium proposals from all over arrive in cape town..i cant wait..:D

Not the KZN premier - but the KZN MEC for Arts, Culture and Tourism.

Don't be fooled by what you see in the press. It's all a deliberate marketing ploy by the KZN govt: "Come to KZN for sex, lies and videotapes; we're a 1-stop shop for all your sex tourism tapes, props, and venues. Now just wait for our film city to open and you'll see some REAL action..."

So there! At least our tourism MEC is proactive and creative in bringing together the sex and film industry, arts, and (lack of) culture to the forefront.

Beat that sleepy Cape Town! LOL!

Not the KZN premier - but the KZN MEC for Arts, Culture and Tourism.

Don't be fooled by what you see in the press. It's all a deliberate marketing ploy by the KZN govt: "Come to KZN for sex, lies and videotapes; we're a 1-stop shop for all your sex tourism tapes, props, and venues. Now just wait for our film city to open and you'll see some REAL action..."

So there! At least our tourism MEC is proactive and creative in bringing together the sex and film industry, arts, and (lack of) culture to the forefront.

Beat that sleepy Cape Town! LOL!
lol sleepy?...oh come on just cause ur stadium is getting no attention ur premier needs to cause skandaal lol

when the designs are in, then we can carry on with this penis envy. and dude, outside of this forum no one really knows about anything to do with stadiums in the cities, normal people couldnt give a toss

South Africa chief wants Eriksson
By Nigel Adderley
BBC Sport

England coach Sven-Goran Eriksson
Eriksson is leaving England after the 2006 World Cup
The chief executive of the 2010 World Cup believes England coach Sven-Goran Eriksson would be an ideal candidate to manage the host nation South Africa.

The South African team are in a major rebuilding phase and Danny Jordaan has been impressed with Eriksson's record of bringing through young players.

"Sven has overseen the emergence of young players" Jordaan told BBC Sport.

"That sort of attitude would be important when building a new team for South Africa."

Jordaan added that Eriksson's skills would be well suited to the challenge of rejuvenating the South Africa team.

"England have moved away from the idea that if David Beckham isn't available or Paul Scholes retires then the team is in trouble," said Jordaan.

"There's more depth and balance to the England team - whatever's said about Eriksson, young players now have a permanent place in the squad and that sort of attitude would be important when building a new team for South Africa."

Eriksson will step down as England coach following this summer's World Cup in Germany.

Bafana Bafana failed to win a point at the African Cup of Nations in Egypt and there are concerns in South Africa that they could become the first host nation to fail to reach the second round at a World Cup.


South Africa 2010 chief executive Danny Jordaan
It would be a footballing disaster if South Africa fail in 2010
Danny Jordaan

"Our performance in Egypt was miserable," added Jordaan.

"We now need a strong plan and a coach who's been to the World Cup and understands the dynamics of the tournament.

"He must also start in 2006 to give him time to oversee the technical development of our football over the next four years."

South Korea's decision to hire Guus Hiddink and pay him a large salary in similar circumstances was rewarded with a semi-final place four years ago.

Eriksson earns in the region of £4m a year but Jordaan doesn't think money should be an issue.

"The question is can we afford not to afford the best possible coach? It would be a footballing disaster if South Africa fail in 2010," added Jordaan.

"The performance of the host nation determines how the people embrace the whole event."

"We can build the finest stadiums but people come to watch the football, not to admire the architecture. I don't think the size of a salary is a consideration."

lol sleepy?...oh come on just cause ur stadium is getting no attention ur premier needs to cause skandaal lol

Why must Cape Town get all the SEX scandals? we can also have our own fun, but that was going abit overboard with this dude, Its a private matter & it should stay that way, let his wife bitch smack him in the quiet for doing stupid things.

Mo u said that Durban was also given a deadline on the stadium proposals, what date is that? I am too lazy to go through the thread & look for it:)

Eriksson would be a crap coach for S-Africa.
Why not take Ruud Gullit

Eriksson would be a crap coach for S-Africa.
Why not take Ruud Gullit
Coz his black :)

aren't most of the players black ??
Ruud was world soccer player of the year 1987 and he dedicated his price to Nelson Mandela. BTW Gullit is half white/half black, so colored in SA terms

^^lol, I was just joking bro! Well Ruud must send his application in, you never know.

I hope that the Bafana team can really improve in the next 4 years.
It sucks they aren't in this WC 2006, I was planning on following them in Germany and making it my holiday.Now I have to support Holland...
in 4 years Zuma will be too old, so they'll have to start with the youngster, nobody older than 27. It would be bad if SA was the first host country ever to exit in the first round.Lucky it is still 4 years and SA is automatically qualified;)

We all hope they can improve! mind you they did pretty well in Korea/Japan they made it past the group stage only to get knocked out by Spain, but we put on a brave fight that day! I think the final score was 3-2 .

We all hope they can improve! mind you they did pretty well in Korea/Japan they made it past the group stage only to get knocked out by Spain, but we put on a brave fight that day! I think the final score was 3-2 .

bafana made it through the group stage? on which planet was that?

Yep, what are you talking about ??
They played 3 matches in that World Cup
SA-Paraguay 2-2
SA-Slovenia 1-0 and
SA-Spain 2-3

They needed at least a draw but the stupid Jomo didn't know that, he thought the 3-2 defeat would bring them to the next round, but on Goal difference SA was out.

bafana made it through the group stage? on which planet was that?
Sorry I must have been high on something, dunno what possesd me to say that?

Sorry I must have been high on something, dunno what possesd me to say that?

hey u wanna share some of that stuff with the rest of us...u know...the stuff that got u high...

when are the stadiums (PE, Durban, CT) supposed to release the designs and announce the bid winners? June?

when are the stadiums (PE, Durban, CT) supposed to release the designs and announce the bid winners? June?

see cape town timeline previous page of this topic i think

hey u wanna share some of that stuff with the rest of us...u know...the stuff that got u high...
Durban poisen the original gud stuff! luved by all world wide!

Looks like the politics has started_another gautrain I see????
Zille puts 2010 stadium on hold
Cape Town - The appointment of consultants to plan and design the new Greenpoint stadium was stopped on Monday, pending a detailed report on the financing of the project.
Mayor Helen Zille on Monday ordered the report that must help the Cape Town city council to make an "informed decision" about something which could have a gigantic impact on future generations.

She interrupted an information session on the council's plans on the 2010 Soccer World Cup and said no proper decision could be made on the basis of the available information.

A report with full details of a financing model also has to be submitted to the mayoral committee in a week's time. "We have to see what the impact will be on our tax base, other projects and future generations."

The committee will discuss the report and decide what the council should do. "It's an incredibly difficult decision. We can't spend next year's entire capital budget of R1bn on the Greenpoint stadium while there are still residents without services," she said.

Municipal operations chief Rusj Lehutso was giving a presentation on the envisaged development when Zille interrupted him. He was busy naming the consultants already appointed and which were to be appointed on Monday. He also wanted a mandate from the mayoral committee on whether or not to proceed.

He explained that the 2010 World Cup could bring in an estimated R9.8bn in revenue for the country. Between 350 000 and 400 000 foreign visitors were expected, compared with the 23 000 who came to South Africa for the 1995 Rugby World Cup.

Steps had to be taken to keep the visitors in Cape Town for longer, as well as to get maximum media coverage for the city during the 2010 Cup.

If Cape Town could present a semi-final match, for which the Greenpoint stadium was necessary, it could present seven matches over 27 days. If the city could only be used for preliminary matches at the Athlone stadium, it would present a maximum of four matches over eight days.

About 40 billion people were expected to watch the matches on television, and Cape Town must ensure maximum exposure.

Other opportunities were projects in which Fifa and its sponsors invested. The main sponsor, Coca Cola would for example spend $100m in Fifa and was also expected to spend as much again in South Africa as host country.

The national government indicated that it would spend R3.94bn on stadiums and R1.8bn on transport infrastructure over the next few years, as well as R12bn on the rail recapitalisation programme.

At this stage it seems Cape Town will get R1.5bn for infrastructure development from government, R2bn from tourism and R200m from Fifa, sponsors and the private sector.

But it should be kept in mind that better transport and electricity infrastructure, as well as the multipurpose stadium with 68 000 seats, would be created. The stadium could also be used in future if Cape Town considered presenting the Olympic Games or the Commonwealth Games, he said.

Oh know, looks like Zille wasnt a good thing after all, sorry Mo, looks like you going to have drum some sense into her, but she does make valid points! Its just that we want to see nice stadiums being built!

Oh know, looks like Zille wasnt a good thing after all, sorry Mo, looks like you going to have drum some sense into her, but she does make valid points! Its just that we want to see nice stadiums being built!

the cape town 2010 stadium will be going ahead as planned. watch press for further details. a locally led group of international and local consultants are working around the clock. blatter will pay for the stadium himself. as far as ive heard since friday, the stadium will be reviewed by zille. basically..no stadium...no world cup for cape town. unhappy sepp blatter.

if cape town cant afford the stadium then i dont know about new stadia across the rest of the country. i think one thing we need to realise.this is the soccer world cup, which is arguable larger on a global scale than the olympics..its an LARGE expensive event, money will need to be spent..we signed a contract with FIFA, even with regards to sponsors, beautification of the city, construction during the world and all of those finer details, we signed the contract and now we need to face the music...

nope, the only reason she's doing what she is doing is because the city did not make plans for the stadium beforehand. The Durban council have been in planning mode for this new stadium for 3 years! You cant expect the stadium to just happen if you havent been thinking long term. i said it before, they were going to run into trouble if hey hadnt doen prelim planning, and it has come true.

Financing is an important part, and they need to plan where the money is coming, from, the legacy of the stadium, affects ont he surroundings...and so on...once again, like the article i put in the CT thread, CT lacks a vision, and plan for the future, and it is going to SERIOUSLY cost them

mate u like to talk out ur ass. Why on earth would sepp blatter pay for CT's stadium and not anyone elses? that would cause major turmoil nationally. if CT is so slack that they cant budget, then they have serious problems.

Durban has planned and saved for 3 years, why should we be penalised for our good manangement when ur city is clueless in running its own finances? GDP has nothing to do with a cities finances. Durban is the best managed city in africa, we know what we do with our money, unlike you lot (look at the article in the CT thread, show how disorganisde ur council has always been!)

CT doesnt seem jacked up at all

maybe its the legacy of a ANC run council? but as per my other question, how come durban is an ANC run council and they seem to get it right. Hell even Jozi is jcaking up its socks

.......... blatter will pay for the stadium himself. as far as ive heard since friday, the stadium will be reviewed by zille. basically..no stadium...no world cup for cape town. unhappy sepp blatter.

Comments like this make me want to say this again

Is Sepp originally from cape? thats the impression u creating of him?
did he grow up in the "flats" one of the "hard livings gangsters" ?



Is Sepp screwing somebody in CT? does he have a secret "Lover" is it Premier? Naughty Naughty Mr Rasool!

yeh its not like CT is going to make or break the success of the world cup. The way mo talks you would think that the world cup will be taken away from SA if CT wasnt the champion of it! LOL ridiculous!

giles its all to do with the dynamics of the people involved, how they click. lucky us ours click well and all have clearly defined roles to play, and are working toward a common goal.

maybe its the legacy of a ANC run council?

Nope...not entirely. If you read the article in the CT thread, it states that CT has been neglecting its infrastructure for 30 years! That hardly points the blame at the ANC. CT seems to have a general "one day" approach to it all.

And since the city council lacks a vision or mission, a growth plan, or anything to guide them in decision making, you cant expect them to be succeeding in anything can you?

Durban and Joburg both have clearly defined growth strategies, with visions that guide where they are heading. This has lead to both cities attaining far greater foreign investment over the last 5 years than CT (except in the sphere of residential property, but that is not business, thats individuals). Things dont look so bright for the mother city, unless she can start to look at the serious problems that she has in front of her. A vision would be a good place to start