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October 4th, 2010, 02:47 PM
Looks like we are off to a good start with 3 medals, including a gold. Neither The Globe and Mail nor The National Post have a section devoted to the games on their websites (at least, not that I could find). I'll be interested to see how we do, as it begins to set us up for the 2012 Olympics in London.

Interesting, the countries at the top of the medal tally are also in alphabetical order at the moment. :lol:

1. Australia
2. Canada
3. England
4. India
5. Nigeria
6. South Africa
7. Wales

Also, what on earth are our athletes wearing?!

http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/3617226.bin?size=620x465

http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/Commonwealth+Games+open+Delhi/3617227/story.html

yousername
October 4th, 2010, 08:38 PM
I love the CWG. Never watch it but we rock. AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE.

yousername
October 4th, 2010, 08:46 PM
Random question - why do the US in the Olympics and seemingly Canada in the CWG put the table by total medals - while the rest of the world put it by Gold Medals. Making it

1. Australia
2. Canada
3. South Africa
4. Malaysia
4. Nigeria
6. England
7. India

spongeg
October 5th, 2010, 12:28 AM
i watched the opening last night at 1 am - it was pretty cool - i dare say better than what vancouver did

isaidso
October 5th, 2010, 01:07 AM
I love the CWG. Never watch it but we rock. AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE.

Well it is heavily skewed towards sports Australia is strong in. Add winter sports, and it would be a completely different story. ;)

isaidso
October 5th, 2010, 01:15 AM
Random question - why do the US in the Olympics and seemingly Canada in the CWG put the table by total medals - while the rest of the world put it by Gold Medals. Making it


Don't know, but we (and the United States) tend to beat to our own drum rather than follow protocol from overseas. Just look at our sports! All the dominant sports are home grown here in Canada: football, basketball, baseball, and hockey.

Global influences are starting to make inroads here though. Soccer is booming and we're even seeing people here refer to it as 'football' despite an established homegrown sport already going by that name. Perhaps over time, the Canada/US practice of ranking by total medals will make way to the global practice of ranking by golds.

Honestly, ranking by golds makes more sense. The name 'football' is already taken though. Sorry soccer!

vid
October 5th, 2010, 04:58 AM
Random question - why do the US in the Olympics and seemingly Canada in the CWG put the table by total medals - while the rest of the world put it by Gold Medals. Making it

We don't always do that, we simply pick whichever one makes us look better. We're very insecure about our sports.

Taller, Better
October 5th, 2010, 06:30 AM
Sorry, but don't like the flag waving, point counting and weighing the piles of medals. Turns me right off.

vid
October 5th, 2010, 06:34 AM
Forgot to mention, CBC.ca has a section on their website devoted to coverage of the games.

spongeg
October 5th, 2010, 08:17 AM
CBC Bold is also broadcasting a lot of it - saw some field hockey earlier on - i don't know why i watched it - no one else did - haha the venue was pretty much empty

vid
October 5th, 2010, 08:22 AM
Indians are boycotting the games because of the corruption and high cost.

yousername
October 5th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Well it is heavily skewed towards sports Australia is strong in. Add winter sports, and it would be a completely different story. ;)
True that!

yousername
October 5th, 2010, 01:19 PM
We don't always do that, we simply pick whichever one makes us look better. We're very insecure about our sports.

Hahah :D

yousername
October 5th, 2010, 01:22 PM
Don't know, but we (and the United States) tend to beat to our own drum rather than follow protocol from overseas. Just look at our sports! All the dominant sports are home grown here in Canada: football, basketball, baseball, and hockey.

Honestly, ranking by golds makes more sense. The name 'football' is already taken though. Sorry soccer!

Australia's the same - AFL, rugby league, cricket and netball. Okay at CWG but they dont matter in Olympics.

Agree about golds.

Taller, Better
October 5th, 2010, 07:01 PM
Also, what on earth are our athletes wearing?!



I thought at first it was a brass band.

TooFar
October 8th, 2010, 06:46 AM
The question has to be asked. Should Canada even bother to enter the next games? It is pretty clear from the results and (lack of) media coverage thus far, Canada is only interested in hockey.

spongeg
October 8th, 2010, 06:52 AM
i've been watching some - but i get CBC bold and i stay up too late

CBC used to air more of them but moved them to the higher digital tier

maybe if they were on earlier in the year they might be able to fit it in the schedule better - october is an odd time when they have all the primetime shows they need to accomodate

the olympics are just as useless in my opinion

at least the commonwealth games give Canadian athletes exposure to an international event and they can learn a lot for the "more important" games and events

the fact that Canada and a Canadian started these games says that Canada should always be involved in them

Taller, Better
October 8th, 2010, 09:20 AM
Commonwealth Games are really only super popular in the country where they are being held. The UK took a HUGE interest in them when they were in Manchester, but I don't think that huge interest lasted afterward. Will they ever eclipse hockey for media attention in this country, especially at the beginning of the new NHL season? Probably around the same time they eclipse popularity of soccer and cricket in Australia.

Dimethyltryptamine
October 8th, 2010, 09:31 AM
Games are virtually unrivaled in Australia at the moment. Our two biggest codes of football finished last week (or the week before), and the A-League football (soccer) is only ever televised on pay-television. Cricket, if it's not the Ashes, won't have many people watching it. The general consensus is that Cricket is far too slow of a game, spread across far too many days.

Basically, CWG = biggest sporting event on TV at the moment here and is televised on free-to-air TV from 6pm until 3-4am. I think we're really the only country in the Commonwealth who take it seriously - but hey, it pays off on the medal table.

spongeg
October 8th, 2010, 12:28 PM
from cbc site

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6347/medalstandings.jpg

spongeg
October 8th, 2010, 12:45 PM
Canada wins 9 gold medals on Day 4 in Delhi

Canada's Commonwealth Games fortunes skyrocketed on Thursday as Canadian athletes capturing a stunning nine gold medals on Day 4 of competition in Delhi.

The run started with a pair of gold in synchronized swimming, and ended with shot put favourite Dylan Armstrong sealing his event in record fashion. In the meantime, swimmer Brent Hayden, para shot putter Kyle Pettey, hammer thrower Sultana Frizell, and wrestlers Carol Huynh, Justin Bouchard and Ohenewa Akuffo each delivered a title of their own.

The banner day raised Canada's gold-medal count to 11 — well back of leader Australia (33) but within striking distance of host India (14) and England (12).

The Canadian team added a silver medal in a women's archery team event, plus a gymnastics bronze by Gabby May in the women's vault, solidifying Canada's grip on fourth place in the overall medal standings with 24. Australia leads with 70 total medals, followed by England (46) and India (34).

A more detailed look at each of Canada's nine gold medals on Day 4:

Hayden wins swim in record time

Hayden won Canada's second swimming gold medal of the Games with a stunning performance in the men's 100-metre freestyle.

The Mission, B.C., native joins Victoria's Ryan Cochrane, who captured the 400 freestyle title on the opening day of competition.

Thursday's race was never in doubt. Sporting his trademark shaved head and Superman tattoo over his heart, Hayden led all the way, touching the wall in a stellar time of 47.98 seconds. That's a Commonwealth Games record and the fastest time posted in the world this year.

The world record is 46.91, but that mark is considered untouchable for now because Brazil's Cesar Cielo set it in 2009, before cutting-edge swimsuits were banned.

"There were two major championships I hadn't won a gold in, and that was the Olympics and the Commonwealth Games," said Hayden, who turns 27 in a couple of weeks. "Now I've done the Commonwealth, I just have to work harder on the Olympics. I have nothing more than a desire to swim fast."

Triple gold for wrestling women

Canadian freestyle women's wrestlers captured three gold on Thursday as their team continued to pile up the medals. Olympic champion Carol Huynh of Hazelton, B.C., won the 48-kilogram weight class, defeating crowd favourite Nirmila Devi of India 7-3 in the final.

Justine Bouchard of Wetaskiwin, Alta., took the 63 kg gold by beating Nigeria's Blessing Orududu 6-2.

Ohenewa Akuffo of Brampton, Ont., won the 72 kg division with a 4-3 decision over Annabelle-Laure Ali of Cameroon.

That makes six medals for Canadian wrestlers at the Delhi Games. Jack Bond (silver), Promise Mwegna (bronze) and Eric Feunekes (bronze) reached the podium in their men's Greco-Roman events.

Throwers smash records

Canadian throwers won three gold medals on Day 4, each with a record-setting performance.

Men's shot put favourite Dylan Armstrong delivered with a toss of 21.02 metres that set a new Commonwealth Games record and blew away the rest of the field by almost a full meter.

The Kamloops, B.C., powerhouse has been making noise since missing the Olympic podium in Beijing by one centimetre, and if the 29-year-old continues to improve he should be a medal contender in 2012 in London.

Frizell, a 25-year-old hammer thrower from Perth, Ont., won gold with a Commonwealth Games record of her own, 68.57 metres.

Earlier, Kyle Pettey of Brampton, Ont., also won gold, topping his own world record in the shot put for disabled athletes.

"It's my first major win," said Pettey, the bronze medallist at the 2008 Beijing Paralympics. "I have come second and third at other events and now it's all come together in a major Games."

Synchro streak lives

Canada extended its perfect record in Commonwealth Games synchronized swimming events when Marie-Pier Boudreau Gagnon of Rivière-du-Loup, Que., won the solo competition, then teamed with Chloe Isaac of Brossard, Que., to take the duet.

Canada has never lost a synchro swim competition at the Commonwealth Games, winning 15 gold medals in 15 events across six Games going back to 1986.

Boudreau-Gagnon defended both of the titles she first won in 2006, when she teamed with Isabelle Rampling to win the duet crown.

"It's my last chance to get a gold medal [before retirement], so I am really happy that I did well," Boudreau-Gagnon said after her solo win.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/commonwealthgames/story/2010/10/07/spc-commonwealth-canada-golds.html#ixzz11lN29ior

spongeg
October 8th, 2010, 12:51 PM
Commonwealth Games hotties

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/commonwealth-games/4211051/Commonwealth-Games-hotties

http://static.stuff.co.nz/1286484517/027/4211027_600x400.jpg
Kiwi swimmer Glenn Snyders, age 23. A relative newcomer to the swimming scene, but we like his style - and he's also one of New Zealand's best hopes of a medal.

http://static.stuff.co.nz/1286482512/869/4210869_600x400.jpg
Canadian diver Alexandre Despatie, 25. He is the first, and so far only, diver to have been world champion in the three diving categories. He plans to become an actor once he's done with the sport.

getty images http://www.stuff.co.nz

isaidso
October 9th, 2010, 12:30 AM
I have to say that India is doing very well. On the flip side, it would be a little demoralizing if we finished lower than 3rd overall. It's bad enough that we're getting clobbered by a nation 2/3 our size. Own The Podium's summer version 'Road To Excellence' can't come soon enough. Perhaps by 2022, we can become competitive?

Fabulous swim Brent Hayden! Now we just need another 3 freestylers that good so we can take the 4x100m. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th is getting tiring. :colgate:

spongeg
October 9th, 2010, 12:56 AM
when watching the swimming last night or this morning at 3 am - the commentators kept bringing up how much money the Australians have poured into their swimming programs and athletic programs starting back in the 90's and how they are really dominating these days - not really saying it but implying if Canada did the same for its athletics...

isaidso
October 9th, 2010, 05:45 AM
It's no mystery that the countries that field competitive teams are also the ones that offer their athletes lots of support. The UK and Australia spend about 8-10 times what Canada does on elite sports. The United States is large enough that they can get away with their well heeled NCAA system topped off with corporate dollars. Own The Podium was Canada's first attempt ever at matching what the top sporting countries do.

OTP was a massive slam dunk, but I'm already worried about it's long term future. Adequate, stable annual funding makes far more sense than good funding for a few years leading up to an event followed by drastic cuts. Will out commitment continue now that Vancouver 2010 is over? What about repeating that success with summer sports?

It's not just a cash proposition either. On top of funding you need to lure the best coaches/physiotherapists/sport psychologists, conduct research, maintain/build top notch facilities, and develop a fine tuned system capable of spotting young talent.

Australia has the whole package down to a science. I watched the CBC commentator congratulate the Canadian women's gymnastics team on their bronze medal the other day. The Australian coach was within earshot, and her reaction to the Canadian satisfaction with 3rd place was very telling. She was trying really hard to hide her shock. In Australia, 3rd equates to failure. I could almost feel her eyes rolling through the television screen.

That about sums it up. The competitive culture in Canada is vastly different than what one would encounter in most other western nations. It's changing slowly, but Canada's still a timid nation content with just showing up. Gee golly, Beaver! It's one characteristic of the national demeanour I'll never be comfortable with.

I did like what I heard from the Canadian women's wrestling team though: "DON'T MESS WITH CANADA!" They expect gold every time and weren't there for silvers. That's the type of attitude that breeds winners. Don't show up to compete, show up to obliterate the opposition. Destroy them! :)

yousername
October 9th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Who's first?
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4763/tallyz.png

Marathaman
October 9th, 2010, 02:24 PM
^India just won Gold in Men's Freestyle Wrestling. We're back on top with 23 golds :banana:

Marathaman
October 9th, 2010, 02:28 PM
Yet another gold in Freestyle wrestling :banana:

yousername
October 9th, 2010, 02:30 PM
^India just won Gold in Men's Freestyle Wrestling. We're back on top with 23 golds :banana:
By on top, you mean still less than half the golds of Australia, right?

Marathaman
October 9th, 2010, 02:31 PM
yeah :(

TooFar
October 10th, 2010, 02:54 AM
It's no mystery that the countries that field competitive teams are also the ones that offer their athletes lots of support. The UK and Australia spend about 8-10 times what Canada does on elite sports. The United States is large enough that they can get away with their well heeled NCAA system topped off with corporate dollars. Own The Podium was Canada's first attempt ever at matching what the top sporting countries do.

OTP was a massive slam dunk, but I'm already worried about it's long term future. Adequate, stable annual funding makes far more sense than good funding for a few years leading up to an event followed by drastic cuts. Will out commitment continue now that Vancouver 2010 is over? What about repeating that success with summer sports?

It's not just a cash proposition either. On top of funding you need to lure the best coaches/physiotherapists/sport psychologists, conduct research, maintain/build top notch facilities, and develop a fine tuned system capable of spotting young talent.

Australia has the whole package down to a science. I watched the CBC commentator congratulate the Canadian women's gymnastics team on their bronze medal the other day. The Australian coach was within earshot, and her reaction to the Canadian satisfaction with 3rd place was very telling. She was trying really hard to hide her shock. In Australia, 3rd equates to failure. I could almost feel her eyes rolling through the television screen.

That about sums it up. The competitive culture in Canada is vastly different than what one would encounter in most other western nations. It's changing slowly, but Canada's still a timid nation content with just showing up. Gee golly, Beaver! It's one characteristic of the national demeanour I'll never be comfortable with.

I did like what I heard from the Canadian women's wrestling team though: "DON'T MESS WITH CANADA!" They expect gold every time and weren't there for silvers. That's the type of attitude that breeds winners. Don't show up to compete, show up to obliterate the opposition. Destroy them! :)

You right in most of what you say, but it goes further than that. There needs to be a complete cultural shift on how Canadians view sport. Having a go at sports is drilled into Australians from elementary school, and not just one sport but many - it is a fundamental part of the culture. Athletics, individual and team sports are part of the curriculum. Playing for your school is an important team building exercise. Obviously the more moderate weather plays a big part in that, but that should not be used as an excuse for Canadians.

From my experience, sports at Canadian elementary schools is close to none existent. Playing dodge ball in the gym doesn't cut it. Sport doesn't really get serious until the high school level, by then many students have missed the opportunity to jump on board.

And saying that Canadians just love hockey, is also a lame excuse. Australian love there own version of Football just as much, but there is plenty of room for other sports as well. And not just world sports, how many other countries are into surfing, or surf lifesaving, or netball, or squash or rugby league?

Until there is a fundamental shift about sports education from the government down, Canada will continue to underwhelm on the world sporting stage.

isaidso
October 10th, 2010, 05:55 AM
Agree 100% with all of that, but there are some promising signs of change. We are finally shedding that shockingly lame attitude that we should only be competitive in hockey. 2 golds in hockey just doesn't cut it.

The 2010 Vancouver Olympics were just the tonic we needed to kick that tired mentality to the curb. The young generation witnessed their nation finish 1st in the medal standings. If we still had that boneheaded hockey tunnel vision we certainly wouldn't have had a successful Olympics.

Australia won 53 medals in swimming at the CWG. Canada won 10. We have 4 swimming stars (Hayden, Cochrane, Pierse, Huot), but it's just not good enough. We were a stronger swimming nation than Australia back in the 1970s and early 1980s. Don't believe me? Go check for yourself.

Taller, Better
October 10th, 2010, 07:49 AM
Well, there is another school of thought that in a well rounded society there are more aspects to culture than simply obsessing on sport. I'd move pretty damn fast if I lived in a society where that is the only local interest. There are so many other things in life; museums, art galleries, theatre, opera, film, literature. I don't really see that Canada has to start drilling only sports into the minds of the young.

Dimethyltryptamine
October 10th, 2010, 09:46 AM
It's not like sport is the only focus though. Sport may be a huge part, but you also have to remember that Australia is the fattest country on earth (per capita). It was that which led to 30 minutes of phys ed every day becoming compulsory (iirc). On top of that, there's inter-school sports which took place every Wednesday. We would generally travel by bus and play our elected sport (AFL, Rugby League, Soccer, Swimming, etc etc) to compete against other schools. Then there were sports excellence programs which scouts for the Australian Institute of Sport would attend to find potential athletes.

We certainly don't skip history and replace it with sport. Nor do we don't skip english and replace it with sport. It's hard to explain, because it just does seem so normal... I'll leave it at that.

PS. I don't know about Canadian schools, but most schools in Australia generally have multiple grass ovals, basketball courts as well as tennis courts etc. Do you have them? Or are your schools more along the lines of American schools?

vid
October 10th, 2010, 09:59 AM
My public school had a running track with space inside for soccer, and we had two baseball diamonds. My high school just had the running track, but its space was used for football.

When I was in grade 1, gym was an hour every Monday, Tuesday, and second Friday. By the time I got to grade 8, it was so infrequent that you can't describe a schedule. I think we maybe went to gym a dozen times or so.

It was 90 minutes every day in high school, but just for four months. Then it stopped forever. Strangly, my BMI was higher then than it is now.

aucina
October 10th, 2010, 10:14 AM
Don't know, but we (and the United States) tend to beat to our own drum rather than follow protocol from overseas. Just look at our sports! All the dominant sports are home grown here in Canada: football, basketball, baseball, and hockey.

Global influences are starting to make inroads here though. Soccer is booming and we're even seeing people here refer to it as 'football' despite an established homegrown sport already going by that name. Perhaps over time, the Canada/US practice of ranking by total medals will make way to the global practice of ranking by golds.

Honestly, ranking by golds makes more sense. The name 'football' is already taken though. Sorry soccer!

Nobody watches "american fooball" exept the u.s. how can you even call it football?! makes no sence... (it s a fine sport to me, but these are the facts)

vid
October 10th, 2010, 10:36 AM
Oh, now you've done it. Now we're going to be "treated" to another 53 paragraph long explanation of gridiron football's popularity in Canada and the United States. :ohno:

spongeg
October 10th, 2010, 11:37 AM
You right in most of what you say, but it goes further than that. There needs to be a complete cultural shift on how Canadians view sport. Having a go at sports is drilled into Australians from elementary school, and not just one sport but many - it is a fundamental part of the culture. Athletics, individual and team sports are part of the curriculum. Playing for your school is an important team building exercise. Obviously the more moderate weather plays a big part in that, but that should not be used as an excuse for Canadians.

From my experience, sports at Canadian elementary schools is close to none existent. Playing dodge ball in the gym doesn't cut it. Sport doesn't really get serious until the high school level, by then many students have missed the opportunity to jump on board.

And saying that Canadians just love hockey, is also a lame excuse. Australian love there own version of Football just as much, but there is plenty of room for other sports as well. And not just world sports, how many other countries are into surfing, or surf lifesaving, or netball, or squash or rugby league?

Until there is a fundamental shift about sports education from the government down, Canada will continue to underwhelm on the world sporting stage.

yeah

unfortunately its all hockey and nothing else mentality in Canada - I grew up in a hockey town and if you didn't play hockey - like me - you were nothing

how did it ever get this way?

spongeg
October 10th, 2010, 01:30 PM
watching mens diving - that one dude from england has the tiniest swimsuit and doesn't leave much to the imagination since you can er um see most of it

Urbania
October 10th, 2010, 01:55 PM
Well done Alexandre Despatie. The first person to win the same diving event in 3 consecutive Commonwealth Games! (and he's pretty hot as well... ;-)

spongeg
October 10th, 2010, 02:00 PM
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Hari+Prasad+Thimmarayappa+19th+Commonwealth+coXorTnKygLl.jpg
Hari Prasad Thimmarayappa of India competes in the Men's 1m Springboard Preliminary at the Dr. S.P. Mukherjee Aquatics Complex during day seven of the Delhi 2010 Commonwealth Games on October 10, 2010 in Delhi, India.

spongeg
October 10th, 2010, 02:16 PM
some of the diving pics

http://www.gettyimageslatam.com/passImage.php?args=xc%2F105127691.jpg%3Fv%3D1%26c%3DEWSAsset%26k%3D2%26d%3D77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E6C7253402C9B91745CBE9252AECCC45CA3C183A6977833DD2&fname=105127691.jpg

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DELHI, INDIA - OCTOBER 10: Eric Sehn of Canada competes in the Men's 1m Springboard Preliminary at the Dr. S.P. Mukherjee Aquatics Complex during day seven of the Delhi 2010 Commonwealth Games on October 10, 2010 in Delhi, India. (Photo by Adam Pretty/Getty Images)

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DELHI, INDIA - OCTOBER 10: Ken Nee Yeoh of Malaysia competes in the Men's 1m Springboard Preliminary at the Dr. S.P. Mukherjee Aquatics Complex during day seven of the Delhi 2010 Commonwealth Games on October 10, 2010 in Delhi, India. (Photo by Adam Pretty/Getty Images)

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DELHI, INDIA - OCTOBER 10: Muhammad MD Zain of Malaysia competes in the Men's 1m Springboard Preliminary at the Dr. S.P. Mukherjee Aquatics Complex during day seven of the Delhi 2010 Commonwealth Games on October 10, 2010 in Delhi, India. (Photo by Adam Pretty/Getty Images)

this guy looks like that actor...
http://www.gettyimageslatam.com/passImage.php?args=xc%2F105127014.jpg%3Fv%3D1%26c%3DEWSAsset%26k%3D2%26d%3D77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E6134FBA1A0977D085CBE9252AECCC45CAA18CA5096F50625E&fname=105127014.jpg
DELHI, INDIA - OCTOBER 10: Diver Tom Daley (L) of England attends at the Dr. S.P. Mukherjee Aquatics Complex during day seven of the Delhi 2010 Commonwealth Games on October 10, 2010 in Delhi, India. (Photo by Julian Finney/Getty Images)

rupert graves - the actor...
http://aethelreadtheunread.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/01-rupert-graves-1.jpg?w=400&h=329

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Diving+Day+Seven+13th+FINA+World+Championships+pLMDLDEWRTgl.jpg

Rumors
October 10th, 2010, 04:54 PM
Bravo Alexandre with your gold medal. :happy:

isaidso
October 11th, 2010, 02:02 AM
Nobody watches "american fooball" exept the u.s. how can you even call it football?! makes no sence... (it s a fine sport to me, but these are the facts)

Out of consideration to 'Vid' I won't respond, but suggest you do a little research as to why it's called football here.

(8,000,000 Canadians watched the Canadian football championship game last year between the Montreal Alouettes and the Saskatchewan Roughriders and it's a home grown Canuck sport!) ;)

isaidso
October 11th, 2010, 02:28 AM
Bravo Alexandre with your gold medal. :happy:

It's good to see him back in good form.

TooFar
October 11th, 2010, 03:27 AM
Well, there is another school of thought that in a well rounded society there are more aspects to culture than simply obsessing on sport. I'd move pretty damn fast if I lived in a society where that is the only local interest. There are so many other things in life; museums, art galleries, theatre, opera, film, literature. I don't really see that Canada has to start drilling only sports into the minds of the young.

Where is this fictitious society that is obsessed only with sport that you refer?

If you think you are referring to Australia, then I'm afraid you are sadly mistaken. Australian life is very well rounded, sport is just a small fraction to what is on offer.

Last time I checked, Montreal does not have a Natural History Museum (and no, the Redpath does not really count). Rather bizarre for a large world city don't you think?

As a mod, I would have expected you not to turn this into an us vs them debate by having a dig at others.:ohno:

Taller, Better
October 11th, 2010, 06:01 AM
Where is this fictitious society that is obsessed only with sport that you refer?

If you think you are referring to Australia, then I'm afraid you are sadly mistaken. Australian life is very well rounded, sport is just a small fraction to what is on offer.

Last time I checked, Montreal does not have a Natural History Museum (and no, the Redpath does not really count). Rather bizarre for a large world city don't you think?

As a mod, I would have expected you not to turn this into an us vs them debate by having a dig at others.:ohno:

I didn't. I was merely responding to your rant that Canada must drop everything and start drilling sports into the minds of children so that we could excel at the ridiculous pastime of waving flags, weighing medals, and counting points to see how big our national penis is.
YOU added up what I said and jumped to a conclusion I was referring to a cultureless Australia, which I was not. :)

Rumors
October 11th, 2010, 06:39 AM
It's good to see him back in good form.

Yes it is. :yes:

isaidso
October 11th, 2010, 06:42 AM
Yes it is. :yes:

Do the CWG get as little coverage in the francophone media as they do in the anglo? I remember the last CWG in Melbourne weren't even on television.

Taller, Better
October 11th, 2010, 06:45 AM
I was grateful this morning that Coronation Street had not been bumped again like it was last week by the CBC. Bless 'em.
They should get into the habit of bumping the boring shows before, or after it and hands off CS.

skyscrapercity103
October 11th, 2010, 06:46 AM
this is the hottest photo from the games:

http://drop.ndtv.com/albums/SPORTS/day5cwg/17.jpg
Harikrishnan of India competes during the Long Jump qualification event of the Track and Field competition of the XIX Commonwealth games on October 8, 2010 in New Delhi. (AFP Photo)

Rumors
October 11th, 2010, 06:59 AM
Do the CWG get as little coverage in the francophone media as they do in the anglo? I remember the last CWG in Melbourne weren't even on television.

I'm not sure , when I'm home I'm always online. :tongue3: ;)

Dimethyltryptamine
October 11th, 2010, 07:16 AM
this is the hottest photo from the games:

http://drop.ndtv.com/albums/SPORTS/day5cwg/17.jpg
Harikrishnan of India competes during the Long Jump qualification event of the Track and Field competition of the XIX Commonwealth games on October 8, 2010 in New Delhi. (AFP Photo)

totz hottest foto evar.

Master of Disguise
October 11th, 2010, 07:23 AM
this is the hottest photo from the games:

http://drop.ndtv.com/albums/SPORTS/day5cwg/17.jpg
Harikrishnan of India competes during the Long Jump qualification event of the Track and Field competition of the XIX Commonwealth games on October 8, 2010 in New Delhi. (AFP Photo)

what's so hot about it dude??

skyscrapercity103
October 11th, 2010, 07:35 AM
what's so hot about it dude??

i am not a dude..i am a girl. and i want to have sex with him right now..gawd he so fucking hot

Taller, Better
October 11th, 2010, 07:39 AM
Yellow Fever would offer his services but he is in Hawaii!!!


We don't get a lot of girls in the forum... welcome!! :yes:

Master of Disguise
October 11th, 2010, 09:27 AM
ehhhrr....you a girl blah blah boo boo....JAcob Aka KUsa...atleast we Indians know who you are dude....stop fuckin around..!!

TooFar
October 11th, 2010, 10:46 AM
I didn't. I was merely responding to your rant that Canada must drop everything and start drilling sports into the minds of children so that we could excel at the ridiculous pastime of waving flags, weighing medals, and counting points to see how big our national penis is.
YOU added up what I said and jumped to a conclusion I was referring to a cultureless Australia, which I was not. :)

:ohno: Really? So you don't think it is a good idea that kids get off their fat arses and do some exercise? You do know that Quebec has one of the highest school drop out rates going around. Maybe if there was a little more interest in sport with its benefits of team and character building, discipline and hard work, kids may hang around a little longer and finish their education. It not just about Gold medals...

Marathaman
October 11th, 2010, 10:57 AM
Penis measuring is good. Having a bigger penis is very rewarding, emotionally.

Rumors
October 11th, 2010, 03:16 PM
:ohno: Really? So you don't think it is a good idea that kids get off their fat arses and do some exercise? You do know that Quebec has one of the highest school drop out rates going around. Maybe if there was a little more interest in sport with its benefits of team and character building, discipline and hard work, kids may hang around a little longer and finish their education. It not just about Gold medals...

I totally agree with you, the kids don't even go out to play anymore. they stay in the house playing computer games all day. :ohno: :)

isaidso
October 11th, 2010, 06:22 PM
The lack of emphasis on sport and fitness in Canada is costing us billions of dollars. Then there are all the other intangibles like quality of life. Our poor showing at the CWG is merely a combination of our cultural passivity when it comes to winning and our lethargic society.

On a brighter note: it looks like Canada is back as a force in the men's 4 x 100m relay in athletics. We finished first in the semi-final to advance to the final. More importantly we beat England and Jamaica in a very good time of 38.45 to get there. A solid quartet, good baton exchanges, and just off the games record of 38.20 seconds. Goes to show that you don't need a superstar to do well in the relay.

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Sports/Commonwealth_Games/ID=1612639706

Taller, Better
October 11th, 2010, 07:21 PM
If Canadians ignore fitness and sports, why are we not higher up the ladder of international obesity rates? Could it be we are confusing general fitness activity with investing mega bucks into organized sports? :dunno:

Rank Countries Amount
# 1 United States: 30.6%
# 2 Mexico: 24.2%
# 3 United Kingdom: 23%
# 4 Slovakia: 22.4%
# 5 Greece: 21.9%
# 6 Australia: 21.7%
# 7 New Zealand: 20.9%
# 8 Hungary: 18.8%
# 9 Luxembourg: 18.4%
# 10 Czech Republic: 14.8%
# 11 Canada: 14.3%
# 12 Spain: 13.1%
# 13 Ireland: 13%
# 14 Germany: 12.9%
= 15 Portugal: 12.8%
= 15 Finland: 12.8%
# 17 Iceland: 12.4%
# 18 Turkey: 12%
# 19 Belgium: 11.7%
# 20 Netherlands: 10%
# 21 Sweden: 9.7%
# 22 Denmark: 9.5%
# 23 France: 9.4%
# 24 Austria: 9.1%
# 25 Italy: 8.5%
# 26 Norway: 8.3%
# 27 Switzerland: 7.7%
= 28 Japan: 3.2%
= 28 Korea, South:

vid
October 11th, 2010, 07:41 PM
Imagine how much lower we would be if we took the billions invested in the Olympics and spent it on physical education in schools!

Taller, Better
October 11th, 2010, 08:18 PM
Imagine how much lower we would be if we took the billions invested in the Olympics and spent it on physical education in schools!

^^ WORD. We can live without the pile of medals and owning (or even "renting") the podium. A healthy population should be our goal, not whipping some other country's ass.

Looking/Up
October 11th, 2010, 09:12 PM
If Canadians ignore fitness and sports, why are we not higher up the ladder of international obesity rates? Could it be we are confusing general fitness activity with investing mega bucks into organized sports? :dunno:



+1.

spongeg
October 12th, 2010, 01:04 AM
in BC you have to take PE until grade 10 after that its an elective

how is it elsewhere? i know i stipped taking it and i gained weight in high school

isaidso
October 12th, 2010, 02:44 AM
If Canadians ignore fitness and sports, why are we not higher up the ladder of international obesity rates? Could it be we are confusing general fitness activity with investing mega bucks into organized sports? :dunno:



No, we're not confusing those 2 things. You can't conclude that we have a culture of fitness and sports because our obesity rate is lower than some other countries. All that means is that we have fewer morbidly fat people. That's no victory on the fitness front.

isaidso
October 12th, 2010, 02:53 AM
Imagine how much lower we would be if we took the billions invested in the Olympics and spent it on physical education in schools!

Most of that money goes to sports and transportation infrastructure, 2 things we need whether an Olympics is hosted or not. Very little actually goes to funding actual sports. Summer sports received $20 million last year, that amounts to a rounding error at Revenue Canada.

If Canada wants to get serious about physical education, cutting funding sports infrastructure to fund it is rather pointless. Are people supposed to use imaginary facilities? You need both. Develop a culture of fitness and sports in grade schools, and build the sports infrastructure that allows for a proper national sports system to flourish.

The attitude that sport is just for recreation/periphery is really frustrating and one propagated by people who aren't particularly interested in sports. Would we encourage drawing/painting, but not build art colleges?

Hungary is a fabulous example of a country that gets sports/fitness. The communists built a massive national sport infrastructure and developed a sporting culture in that country. Despite the fall of communism, Hungarians still have a very high participation rate in physical activity because they have the infrastructure and sports has become central to their culture.

vid
October 12th, 2010, 04:03 AM
There is no money for physical education in schools, and my city hasn't had a sporting facility built since 1981. (And the Complex was the first facility built since the Fort William Gardens in 1953. And all of the facilities are in bad shape.)

We're not funding either but hey, great for City Located 2,500km Away.

Government revenue isn't endless.

koolio
October 12th, 2010, 04:04 AM
in BC you have to take PE until grade 10 after that its an elective

how is it elsewhere? i know i stipped taking it and i gained weight in high school

It is the same here in Ontario (at least it was at my school). I too stopped taking it after gr.10, simply because there were too many other electives that I wanted/needed to take.

eastadl
October 12th, 2010, 01:40 PM
If Canadians ignore fitness and sports, why are we not higher up the ladder of international obesity rates? Could it be we are confusing general fitness activity with investing mega bucks into organized sports? :dunno:


yeah I agree, us Australians maybe sportsmad, but for many of our suburbanites it involves watching sport via sitting on a couch in front of a plasma TV, drinking endless coke and eating home delivered pizza's. OK maybe exagerating, actually maybe not

Taller, Better
October 12th, 2010, 05:33 PM
No, we're not confusing those 2 things. You can't conclude that we have a culture of fitness and sports because our obesity rate is lower than some other countries. All that means is that we have fewer morbidly fat people. That's no victory on the fitness front.

You don't see any connection between obesity rates and general levels of fitness? How would you explain the fact there are fewer morbidly fat people?



The attitude that sport is just for recreation/periphery is really frustrating and one propagated by people who aren't particularly interested in sports.


And it could just as easily be said that it is frustrating to see a push toward spending billions on OWNING THE PODIUM, and buying piles of medals. We could do like the UK
did and lure a bunch of Aussie swimmers with huge amounts of money, but what does it prove at the end of the day? A nation that is healthy SURELY is a greater goal than
trying to be NUMBER ONE at winning medals.
Organised sport is part of a balanced society, but it is not everything. No matter how glamorous and all-important it seems to those who are sports-mad, there are other aspects of culture that
deserve equal attention and federal funding.

ChrisDVD
October 13th, 2010, 04:37 AM
It is the same here in Ontario (at least it was at my school). I too stopped taking it after gr.10, simply because there were too many other electives that I wanted/needed to take.

Same here, I did not take Gym because the credit is useless if you are applying to University... it would have been fun, but almost a waste of time.



....
Organised sport is part of a balanced society, but it is not everything. No matter how glamorous and all-important it seems to those who are sports-mad, there are other aspects of culture that
deserve equal attention and federal funding.

TB, it is not everything, but it is very important. Like we all know, it is good for the health of the kids, but much more then that.
A Highschool in Montréal-Nord who had one of the highest drop-out rate in Canada (and was very violent) started to invest in the sports... and as a result, the grades improved, and the drop out rates decreased. The students started having a sense of pride and belonging. There are many other aspects that improved in that school. It was a true success story.

Also, if you look a athletes in school, well in my experience, they tend to be very good students, great grades, etc... Sports can teach kids very good lessons for their life.

the benefits of sports are endless. And it also can apply to adults. With very small investments in amateur sport infrastructures, alot of things can change.

Taller, Better
October 13th, 2010, 04:42 AM
Again, I repeat: I am not opposed to fitness or sports, especially in school. In fact, I encourage it. If you read back what I have written, I have clearly drawn a distinction between physical activities in school, and the billion dollar business of organized Olympic Sports. There is a huge difference. A nation can be healthy and happy without "Owning the Podium". In fact, a healthy, happy nation will quite likely eventually LEAD to a nation successful in Olympic Sports.

ChrisDVD
October 13th, 2010, 04:52 AM
I totally agree with you, the kids don't even go out to play anymore. they stay in the house playing computer games all day. :ohno: :)

We have to say tho that our society (especially old people!) are ruining it for the kids. I heard two different cases where elderly neighbors caused trouble because the kids were playing outside in the streets. Once in Quebec city, once in N-B I think. It is horrible that Elderly people complain about kids making noise while they play and bloc traffic. Sorry but this just pisses me off. Here is an article from Nova Scotia... the article does not state that it was an elderly person, but the two previous case that I have read about were.


RCMP called on N.S. kids' road hockey
Residents of a cul-de-sac in a Halifax suburb say they're divided after one of the neighbours called the RCMP about children playing ball hockey on the street.

Rod MacDonald, who lives on Olivia Lane in Prospect, about 20 kilometres southwest of Halifax, said an RCMP cruiser showed up Sunday after a complaint. He said parents have told their kids to stop playing hockey in the street since the visit from the Mounties, but they're not ready to give up completely.

"The community kind of gathers here to play," he told CBC News. "If they had a problem they should've spoken to us first, not the police. So talk to the people in the community that you live with, and let's find a compromise."

Donna Beeler, who also lives on the cul-de-sac, said she called the police because the children were disturbing her. "Looked like probably eight children out there, playing hockey with the net right up where we live," she said.

"Very noisy. Running in and out to get the ball out of our driveway and that was the end of it. I just said no. I phoned the RCMP. I want them to speak to these people and let them know this is not a playground."

Street hockey players can be fined under a section of the provincial Motor Vehicle Act that deals with pedestrians failing to yield. The fine is $394.

MacDonald said there are fewer recreation centres in rural communities so the children play outdoors. He said they used to play in nearby woods, but parents became concerned after coyote sightings this fall.

"We don't want to cause a fight, we don't want to break any rules, we want the kids to play hockey," he said Tuesday.

MLA onside
Bill Estabrooks, the provincial transportation minister and the MLA for the area, said he knows the street and knows it's safe.

"It's a quiet little cul-de-sac down in coastal Nova Scotia," Estabrooks said. "The next time I'm in Prospect, I'll have my stick and hopefully the kids will be out of school and I'm going to join in."

Regardless of the minister's enthusiasm for the game, the Mounties say they have a job to do.

"Whether the road is busy or not, you still have to abide by the rules of the road," said Const. Tamu Bracken. "We're encouraging the parents and the kids to come up with some alternatives, maybe using someone's driveway — whoever has the longest driveway — or even going to a community centre or even to a school somewhere."

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2010/09/28/ns-prospect-ball-hockey-rcmp.html#ixzz12CfD1tRY

WTF? sorry again, I find this behavior unbeleivable! :ohno:

PS: TB, I must of read your message a bit wrong, sorry! I just wanted to point out more benefits from sports.

isaidso
October 14th, 2010, 10:08 PM
You don't see any connection between obesity rates and general levels of fitness? How would you explain the fact there are fewer morbidly fat people?

On the surface it appears like a logical conclusion, but one doesn't follow from the other. You can have 100% of your population with poor fitness and have a 0% obesity rate. ;)


And it could just as easily be said that it is frustrating to see a push toward spending billions on OWNING THE PODIUM, and buying piles of medals. We could do like the UK
did and lure a bunch of Aussie swimmers with huge amounts of money, but what does it prove at the end of the day? A nation that is healthy SURELY is a greater goal than
trying to be NUMBER ONE at winning medals.
Organised sport is part of a balanced society, but it is not everything. No matter how glamorous and all-important it seems to those who are sports-mad, there are other aspects of culture that
deserve equal attention and federal funding.

This issue comes up from time to time, and we've both presented our views repeated. We clearly have very different priorities/views when it comes to this subject. Luckily for you, your viewpoint rules the day in this country, but just acknowledge that there's a sizable portion of the populace that find that approach excruciatingly frustrating and uninspiring.

Btw, equal attention would be nice! That's all that's being asked for, but sports is far lower down the priority list than practically every other aspect of our culture.

If only sport got the same support as the arts. Where are the sports colleges? There's not one post secondary institute devoted to that, yet there are art colleges from coast to coast. Excellence in the arts is deemed important (Canadian Opera Company, AGO, ROM, Royal Winnipeg Ballet, Toronto Symphony, etc.), yet when we call for the same treatment for sports its called frivolous and unworthy. That's the imbalance that exists. Equal treatment is what's been asked for because up till now it hasn't been balanced.

A first rate Opera company is worthy, but first rate sport system is not? :weird:

spongeg
October 14th, 2010, 10:38 PM
it appears the games are all over - weird timeline they ended and the big closing on a thursday

isaidso
October 15th, 2010, 01:14 AM
it appears the games are all over - weird timeline they ended and the big closing on a thursday

It was a good way to end for India. A gold in the 4x400 m women's relay in front of a packed athletics stadium. Well done India! Canada? Um... 4th! :nuts: