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Just reposting larvens awesome render.
http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/projects/renders/southbank/eureka/EurekaFWP1.jpg

:D

The bubble ride (previous thread) sounds amazing - and a very clever marketing device for the observation deck: bet it will cost cuctomers heaps though ...a price i am unlikely to pay, as i am one of those skyscraper freaks who suffers vertigo ... chickened out once on the Eiffel, and just afraid of those lifts that go up the outside of buildings !

they should have bungee jumping of it

attention LARVEN ! ive drawn in FWP and 2SBB in approx positions and height. The FWP just happens to be right behind 2SBB from this view.
see how you go with rendering.
cheers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/eurekfWPlarvenrender.jpg

Well if they cant get a restaurant going i highly doubt they will get a ride atop of Eureka going either, just sounds like one of those things that is too good to be true and will never get off the ground, i must say i will be very suprised if i am riding a thrill ride on top of Eureka after it is finished, call me sceptical if u want :) i am!
However, I am all for something different at the ob deck tho......or just something other than standing and looking out!

For easier comparison I've made an animated gif out of those two images: :)

http://www.carringbush.net/~pml/images/eureka-animated.gif

As the rendered picture had been slightly resized, the image appears to jump slightly (I would need to fiddle with one or other of the images to fix it). If that rendering is right, we clearly have quite a way to go yet!

:cheers:

Nice one :)

very nice indeed!!! I'm getting a digi cam soon, so I'll be able to go out and get some pics of this beauty!!!
Thanks guys for all the nice pics...Eureka is really going to make a huge impression on our skyline!

wait till prima is there for chrissakes

Prima?

Phi,

Absolutely brilliant, how do you guys do this stuff?? I'm a middle aged computer illiterate:(

Phi,

Absolutely brilliant, how do you guys do this stuff?? I'm a middle aged computer illiterate:(

Nothing too clever in the images I produced, just a photoshop job.

Prima?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=116271

It's basically a silverish resi tower that is to be built next to FWP. It's original height was meant to be 218m, but then that was rejected and cut down to 160m. However, the developers are now appealing for the 218m to be built. Hopefully they succeed.


phi1ip,

Yeah, that looks pretty accurate to me, well done! There's certainly a lot more construction to go on Big E, thats for sure!

Oh, and larven, cut the modesty mate! ;) You're a champ with photoshop, your renders border on photorealism! :)

Cheers.

Hi all,

the real credit should go to larven for the render - it took me all of a couple of minutes to fiddle with the before and after shots in GraphicConverter (that's an excellent utility you'll find available for Mac) to make an animated gif out of it. Photoshop requires a little more talent than that :)

Nice day outside, what?

Ah ok thanks for that, well yeh hopefully the 218m version succeeds! who is building it u know?

what an extordinary concept! a building that can duck under hijacked aircraft!!
why didn't we think of this earlier? brilliant!

Ah ok thanks for that, well yeh hopefully the 218m version succeeds! who is building it u know?

click>
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=116271&page=1

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9302/101469302ml1085112257.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9359/101759359ml1091437045.jpg


realestate.com.au

wow, that's two of the best ever tayser (Thursday)...
YIPES ! WHAT'S GOING ON ??? CHECK OUT THE 'RATE OUR SKYLINES' CHART.
Sydney, 3rd last time i looked, down to 54th behind such giants as Macau, Ramat Gan, Israel; Vlissigen, The Netherlands (one tall bldg); and many other senseless anomalies.

Melbourne, 7th last time i looked, down to 103rd! behind all
these, plus many others including Den Haag, Netherlands;
Cascavel, Brazil; Charlotte,US; Hangzou, China; Anshon,
China; Zhuhai, China; Yellowknife,Canada;
San Gimignano, Italy: Louisville, US; Lima, Peru;
and - get this - Tampa, Florida: HOME OF Deadeshit-Of-The-Year Agent Orange!

Falling about further ...montreal, 18th, Putrayana, 19th,
Vancouver, 20th, Auckland, 45th :eek2:Someone tell me i;'ve gone delusiional quickly, 'cause I';m copying this for comparative pics thread on Ozscapers...Tijuana 55th
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/Bronteboy/tijuana1112.jpg

Simply, most of the skylines that have leap-frogged Melbourne have done so with a relatively small number of votes - Zhengzhou has only 15! Melbourne also has a very suspiciously large number of 4 and below votes. Lastly, only one of the pictures posted by tays is displaying on my browser, and it's not the best.

Simply, most of the skylines that have leap-frogged Melbourne have done so with a relatively small number of votes - Zhengzhou has only 15! Melbourne also has a very suspiciously large number of 4 and below votes. Lastly, only one of the pictures posted by tays is displaying on my browser, and it's not the best.

In my surprise i misplaced this topic here, really phi1ip. With moderator's permission may i suggest we move all discussion on it over to "Ozscrapers' where a thread has been started and a number of comments are coming in. All Australian cities - and only Australian cities it seems - have suddenly been pushed way, way down - so its either a practical joke or a concerted move somewhere, in which case the people responsible have overdone it and simply destroyed the credibility of the skyscrapercity polls for the time being, imho.
Wd help if others can post some of the stark comparison pics too, as the present rankings are now just silly. :rock:

It does seem very suspicious the sudden move down of all Aussie cities, and the cities they are now being beaten by are ridiculous (no offence to them, but some don't even have a skyline).
stu

you dont take those 'rate our skyline" seriously? its silly beacuse the forum members end up voting for there own city! so useless really.

my monthly contribution to the eureka thread

sunny winter days make it so easy

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/eka20040731.jpg

incredible to think freshwater will be that width all the way to the jib of the prominent PwC crane, work has begun on E's westerly podium extension (2nd pic).

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/eka20040731=1.jpg

you dont take those 'rate our skyline" seriously? its silly beacuse the forum members end up voting for there own city! so useless really.
Well, yr partly right - and partly wrong. No, people shd not take it too seriously - but it has been a big worldwide exercise on the forum, on one of the central things people here are interested in. The reaction of some very experienced forum members indicate their interest. Also I do recall you were yrself v. concerned to have Fabian (i think it was) post some best shots for the initial Sydney presentation, and perhaps other Aust. cities. Just a couple of points about it, anyway:
Quite a few people did vote - properly and fairly - for cities from other countries (and many clowns dismissively low for foreign cities)
But how come the top 15 - other than our missing two - look pretty right, with perhaps one or two exceptions. they are hk, nyc, chi, shanghai, tokyo, singapore, kl, bangkok, guanghzhou, seoul, shenzen, seattle, toronto, san fran, and minneapolis..... sydney is now 59, melb 109, gc 135 last time i looked :neither city nor national populations entirely account for the anomolies, let alone some of the real oddities in the top 100 or so. cheers bronte

wow silvermb! classic pix! E is looking sweeeeet!

Fantastic pics! Lucky I was sitting down because I'm starting to get weak at the knees everytime I see the big E! It just keeps getting bigger and better, I can't wait to see the Gold summit, it's gonna be something!
stu

Fantastic pics! Lucky I was sitting down because I'm starting to get weak at the knees everytime I see the big E! It just keeps getting bigger and better, I can't wait to see the Gold summit, it's gonna be something!
stu

You really think it's getting bigger? I thought it was getting smaller :-)

It looks awesome already without the two main features of the tower, the geomerty of the top third and the gold summit, when they start going up people will be absolutely blown away.

Even the rather plain balconies look great beacuse there are so many of them going up and up and they are surrounded by glass. I am glad they weren't covered with glass panels as the dark concrete provides a good contrast to the shiny reflective glass and really accentuates how many levels the tower has.

There is a problem with the rendering Larven:

http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/projects/renders/southbank/eureka/EurekaFWP1.jpg

This rendering actually shows Eureka as 94 levels high! Also the difference between the setbacks on either side of the tower should be nine levels, not six.

There are 30 levels between the level 25 plant floor and the western setback, 9 levels between the western and eastern setbacks and another 27 levels above that.

Still it was nice to see what it would have looked like if it was just over 100 feet high :sniff:

You really think it's getting bigger? I thought it was getting smaller :-)

:tongue3:

It looks awesome already without the two main features of the tower, the geomerty of the top third and the gold summit, when they start going up people will be absolutely blown away.

Even the rather plain balconies look great beacuse there are so many of them going up and up and they are surrounded by glass. I am glad they weren't covered with glass panels as the dark concrete provides a good contrast to the shiny reflective glass and really accentuates how many levels the tower has.

Yeah, I was skeptical of the 'plain' balconies at first but you are right, they provide a nice contrast and really make you think how big this mofo is. Much better than a plain glass facade in the end. Wondering if they will leave them that colour though, or slap on some white paint/ render or something, just a thought to ponder.

stu

Gday

I am hoping they will slap ona bit of nice coloured grey paint for the balconies instead of bare concrete.

cheers

lozza :bowtie:

hey nonda likes his exposed concrete look. just look at Republic tower. it looks fine!

Grollo - who's counting? hehe

Grollo - who's counting? hehe

Me -- at 94 levels the big E would have been 307.8 m / 1010 ft! :)

:cheers:

stick this everybody:
: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/Bronteboy/fish1_yarra_fin_lores1.jpg


john gollings/helicopter service

go the Ponds?

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4015/101754015cl1091719515.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5458/101705458ml1089598431.jpg


:)

Tayser - is the first pic from the building on Mt Road and the second from the one on Shuter Street? Go the Ponds indeed! What do you think of Mondo? I love it already!

Those pictures show why Melbourne Central should be 350 meters.

It should certainly be higher, but I don't think the design suits 350m, maybe 300m or just below... I'm all for height but the design has to warrent it ;)
stu

die Transport House, die!

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6567/101636567cl1089681515.jpg

imagine a 300m MC to twin with E in that pic! :D

i remember when melbourne Central was approved at 72st/270m! i got really excited at Australia's next tallest but it was cut down to 211m . Now when i look at MC it looks stumpy! even though its 700ft high! it really should be no less than 250m.
ah well.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/haksoz/Images/08.08.04/P8071503.JPG

don't everyone have a coronary at once ;)

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v298/dane1980/jackson.gif

Long live density :cheers:
stu

that is an awesome pic hacksaw

someone needs to get atop Crown's carpark just visible behind Crown Promenade

melbourne looks the least dense from collingwood ;)

man thats a cool shot.

edit: ahh i had too. Its no larven render but that shot was just too cool to not put eureka in.

http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/hacksawsomemore.jpg

Hey Tay

Thats one of the best pix Ive seen and a new angle 2 boot.

Ina word mezmorizing.

yeah, excellent shot hacksaw

those 2 later CE buildings didnt turn out too bad in the end

imagine getting a panorama from there in a few years time, with Eureka and FWP filling in the slight gap... itll look awesome

Vive' la Densitie

:dance2:

World forum.. World forum.. World f... nah bugger it they don't deserve to know ..

And that pic doesn't even show the western HALF of the CBD and Docklands!

die Transport House, die!

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/6567/101636567cl1089681515.jpg

imagine a 300m MC to twin with E in that pic! :D
I agree Tayser that Transport House building has to one of the worst in the CBD I cringe everytime I see it.

and even worse the tore down federal Coffee palace to put up Transport house!!

http://statelibrary.vic.gov.au/sjones/0/0/0/im/sj000299.jpg

I would like to think that there is a special hell somewhere reserved for the people who have destroyed beautiful buildings to throw up stuff like Transport House. Apparently the Exhib building and Flinders st Station were both on the chopping block for a while.

enough to make you weep!

OMG such cool pics !!!! I (L) it

Yeh, great pics guys, keep up the good work! By the way for all us novice's transport house is which one?

infront of Rialto in that Collins St pic.

cheers

Yeah, the rather uninspired cream coloured building on an angle to Collins. I really wish we still had Coffee palace, how beautiful is the facade on that! :(
stu

:wtf: When did heritage protection come in because Federal Coffee Palace was an absolute pearler and it amazes me, (1), why the hell they'd knock the damn thing down and replace it with that piss poor excuse for a building and (2), why it wasn't heritage protected. In terms of old fashioned design and for it's size it would have to be the best building I've seen! I love those old photos!!

judging by the crapolaness of Transport House, I'd say late 60s / early 70s.

:wtf: When did heritage protection come in because Federal Coffee Palace was an absolute pearler and it amazes me, (1), why the hell they'd knock the damn thing down and replace it with that piss poor excuse for a building and (2), why it wasn't heritage protected. In terms of old fashioned design and for it's size it would have to be the best building I've seen! I love those old photos!!

Couldn't agreee more: a Bamiyan act of ignorant vandalism: btw, get the roof garden on lower left of pic!

Couldn't agreee more: a Bamiyan act of ignorant of ignorant vandalism: btw, get the roof garden on lower left of pic!
LOL re Bamiyan reference!!! Agree wholeheartedly on that point - I think we should form a vigilante group and find out who was responsible for the Talibanesque act of cultural vandalism - was it the architects, the city, the state? Who will wake up with a horse's head next to their pillow? Muahahaha! :bash:

maybe we cd get "Captain" Peter Jansen to lead us - he's a bit of an old British Raj-type relic-and lived up there on the top flr and tower of the Federal for years.


btw it was demolished in 1973. The Windsor was melb's other grand coffee palace.

um bak to eureaka

Thats Eureka! and yeh i agree back to it!!! :)

That's not transport house it's Enterprise House which was completed in 1976 (25 levels, 92m).

Transport House is not in that picture it's on the other side of the vacant block.

^^ - as the saying goes: same shit different smell :lol: :)

:lol:

stu

That's not transport house it's Enterprise House which was completed in 1976 (25 levels, 92m).

Transport House is not in that picture it's on the other side of the vacant block.

Is that TH on the absolute far-far right of the frame?

Forgive me if you have seen this rendering before but I couldn't resist... I'm drooling all over my keyboard here:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid30/p4f07333a0c8a8383d324981a52ff3dba/fd514838.jpg

stu

Yeah sakor1, that's one of the earlier renderings by larven I believe. Very droolworthy, especially at full size! Looks a bit hellish though. ;)

PS. Does anyone know if the lighting on the gold top will be anything like the render? I really hope it gets lit up at night like that, though I don't know how practical it would be, especially if it's lit from the inside. I guess they can use spotlights like 120C/101C do atm, they look pretty cool as well.

Yup thats one of mine from way back........does look a bit devilish!

Heres one I did a bit more recently, this lunchtime in fact.


http://www.thehoddlegrid.net/projects/renders/southbank/eureka/efromsw.jpg

:eek2:
I know all of us have said this before but please just imagine for one second what the above pic will look like once 2SBB and FWP are up as well.....OMG

Very unlikely the gold top will glow gold like that at night.

It's glass so at night it will appear very dark - even if they try to reflect light off it.

larven wonderful work again but I think you've slightly overdrawn E height. In the original pic the west setback is exactly where the scaffolding finishes but here you've exteneded it by a couple of levels..

But nonethless - great work again!

heres a quick render of FWP & 2sbb to show impact in 2005

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/southbank2.jpg

I'm sure something would be done to light it gold considering the "eureka" gold theme as in the stockade and the gold nugget connection.

Yup thats one of mine from way back........does look a bit devilish!

Wow, it is awesome... you have fantastic talent! Found it while searching online, unreferenced... so sorry to not pay credit where credit is certainly due :)

stu

I know a lot of you melburnians are really really excited, but the more I see pictures of eureka the more I think that it has one of THE most ugliest designs for a skyscraper being built in Australia. The blue glass however is nice when you see it close up, i'll give it that. The white horizontal strip patterns look discusting from a distance. The shape is dodgy and is what gets me the most (its just darn ugly). It really is sad that melbourne will not have a more elegant and iconic structure as its tallest building. Eureka tower is a shame and will be an urban blight. Just thought i'd come in and share my honest opinion.

I know a lot of you melburnians are really really excited, but the more I see pictures of eureka the more I think that it has one of THE most ugliest designs for a skyscraper being built in Australia. The blue glass however is nice when you see it close up, i'll give it that. The white horizontal strip patterns look discusting from a distance. The shape is dodgy and is what gets me the most (its just darn ugly). It really is sad that melbourne will not have a more elegant and iconic structure as its tallest building. Eureka tower is a shame and will be an urban blight. Just thought i'd come in and share my honest opinion.

i think the sun land is getting to your head after 19 years... :clown:



but honestly what are you studying? show us a picture of your skyscraper tastes???

SIMPLE YET STUNNING-not cheap ALA Brisvegas

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid30/p4f07333a0c8a8383d324981a52ff3dba/fd514838.jpg

pog boy, no bias whatsoever, hey?
Q1 has nothing on Eureka's design IMO... but lets not go there... I like both...

I know a lot of you melburnians are really really excited, but the more I see pictures of eureka the more I think that it has one of THE most ugliest designs for a skyscraper being built in Australia. The blue glass however is nice when you see it close up, i'll give it that. The white horizontal strip patterns look discusting from a distance. The shape is dodgy and is what gets me the most (its just darn ugly). It really is sad that melbourne will not have a more elegant and iconic structure as its tallest building. Eureka tower is a shame and will be an urban blight. Just thought i'd come in and share my honest opinion.

Rofl. That was lame even for you.

Rofl. That was lame even for you.

Well lets just say that i'm very very glad that I am able to make you "roll on the floor laughing", and come back with some pathetic little excuse for an insult. I wont question your opinion, so why dont you just go to bed and cry yourself to sleep.

Well lets just say that i'm very very glad that I am able to make you "roll on the floor laughing", and come back with some pathetic little excuse for an insult. I wont question your opinion, so why dont you just go to bed and cry yourself to sleep.

I dont think anyone should have a problem with anyone elses opinion, im glad to hear a negative opinion for once. Youve got balls pog_form, with all the passionate melbournians in here hehe. I agree, i think there may be a bit too much white. The shape of the building though suits melbourne and the window colour i like. With the height as well, its definitely a credit to Melbourne.

Hey POG you think Eureka's arcitecture stinks ? I'ts got nothing
on the Ripe Durian or is that Riparian they're erecting in Brizzy.

:) :)

Believe it or not I actually agree that from some angles Eureka looks a little disproportionate and not so sexy.. but then you just drive 100m up the road and it win's you over with it's sleek sharp design. And again no renders do justice to the upper 3rd of the building which is yet to be built

But pog's comments I'm sure come from the heart and explains why people like him live in QLD (Pastel curvy balconies) while people like us live in Melbourne (Hard industrial edge, dark & elegant).

Each to his own - pog wouldn't fit in living here in Melbourne and that's perfectly fine by me.. just like I couldn't abide living in the overt whimsy that is SEQ..

Well lets just say that i'm very very glad that I am able to make you "roll on the floor laughing", and come back with some pathetic little excuse for an insult. I wont question your opinion, so why dont you just go to bed and cry yourself to sleep.

It's pretty hard to believe your opinions are honest and non-biased when you choose 'Vic the place to leave' as your signature. But if it makes you feel better by putting others down, so be it.

POG

It's so easy to be negative about anything...............

It takes much more effort to see the positive in things.......

Maybe you're a Lazy POG???

Stop feeding the troll
So far in this new thread we've had almost nothing related to Eureka except a few pictures
At the moment its all complaining about rigged skyline votes, old shit buildings and now taking the bait
Back to the topic please

Most of the people with the exception of a couple look fairly new to the forums,i myself have heard this Fucking Stupid Arguement between VICS & QLD too many times give it a rest please. :bash:

I dont think anyone should have a problem with anyone elses opinion, im glad to hear a negative opinion for once. Youve got balls pog_form, with all the passionate melbournians in here hehe. I agree, i think there may be a bit too much white. The shape of the building though suits melbourne and the window colour i like. With the height as well, its definitely a credit to Melbourne.
When I first saw the renders and designs for Eureka I hated it, but as time went by, I've been converted. And the built reality is so much better than I expected.

Does it look cheap? No, it looks classy, expensive, strudy, elegant, sculpted and uncompromising.

Does it look boring or familiar? No, it looks unique, innovative, challenging, cutting edge, artistic in quality (like Fed Square). Much better than the multitude of crap - or worse, recycled designs - that get built all over the world - especially for residential towers.

Show me a residential tower anywhere in the world that doesn't look boring, cliched or just plain ugly? At least nobody can accuse Eureka of being that.

Well lets just say that i'm very very glad that I am able to make you "roll on the floor laughing", and come back with some pathetic little excuse for an insult. I wont question your opinion, so why dont you just go to bed and cry yourself to sleep.

lol.

Anyway when i was making my eureka model in max I made a few renders before I added the white stripes. Trust me, without them its awful.

without
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/01.jpg

with
http://www.melbournephotos.net/pics/Skyscraper%20Models/Eureka%20Renders/02.jpg

It looks really really boring imo without them

I know a lot of you melburnians are really really excited, but the more I see pictures of eureka the more I think that it has one of THE most ugliest designs for a skyscraper being built in Australia. The blue glass however is nice when you see it close up, i'll give it that. The white horizontal strip patterns look discusting from a distance. The shape is dodgy and is what gets me the most (its just darn ugly). It really is sad that melbourne will not have a more elegant and iconic structure as its tallest building. Eureka tower is a shame and will be an urban blight. Just thought i'd come in and share my honest opinion.

Thinking of adding a signature to my name, either-

Eureka- the uglier the better !

or

Eureka- almost as nice as Riparian !

what do you think ?????????

Believe it or not I actually agree that from some angles Eureka looks a little disproportionate and not so sexy.. but then you just drive 100m up the road and it win's you over with it's sleek sharp design. And again no renders do justice to the upper 3rd of the building which is yet to be built

But pog's comments I'm sure come from the heart and explains why people like him live in QLD (Pastel curvy balconies) while people like us live in Melbourne (Hard industrial edge, dark & elegant).

Each to his own - pog wouldn't fit in living here in Melbourne and that's perfectly fine by me.. just like I couldn't abide living in the overt whimsy that is SEQ..

Well put. I could also not live permanatly in the fake/tinsel atmosphere of the GC but its not a bad place for a cheap two week holiday and then come home to delights of a real city..

"Victoria , the place to leave "

Your a Tosser POG !
:weirdo: :nuts: :bleh: :weird: :crazy2: :clown: :hammer: :tongue:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

well i think the white lines on the facade look cool.all we need now is numbers next to the lines, a giant exterior glass tube of mercury and change the gold crown to red and we have the the worlds biggest residential thermometer.

All this bickering is silly. compare how short arsed both towers are compared to those overseas.

oh yeah...Eureka is a far superior structure, just wait until that green dildo in qld tops out and then we can whack a spire on the top of Eureka to fly the Eureka flag.
Then the arguments will be over...right?...WELL!!??

The only "atmosphere" in the gold coast is the stinking humidity and sweaty armpits.

just kidding :)

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~anfield/Eureka.jpg

Nice pic falchoon! Love to see it when the whole thing is finally lit up :D
Meanwhile, I also think this is not the place for a VIC vs QLD debate.... Eureka is great, if you don't like it then fine, but no need to troll.
stu

Eureka is uncompromising, brutal elegance. It imposes but does not dominate. IMO. But for the record my girlfriend agrees with pog, allbeit from a somewhat more objective perspective.

Blue

Here's how the podium on City Rd is progressing - the Orange Diagonals look sensational up close & personal on City Rd

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00838.jpg

Dontcha also lurve how the main tower just dissappears out of sight of the picture despite how much wide-angle I've got !!! Seemingly goes to the heavens :angel: :angel1:

<3 that pic. Good job, I really like the podium too, nice, bright and fun... with a lot of style and sex appeal. Can't go wrong with that combo :D.
stu

The podium is funky!

Which part is the podium? Also yeh i agree, any QLD v Victoria debate can be taken elsewhere, we all know Victoria is better and QLDers are just jelous ;)

Gday

Well guys , we have a core pour today ! Strange thing is though, we haven't had a crane rise . I would expect that the crane will rise on the weekend , and the core will rise Tuesday next week now.

The last core rise was on Thursday 29th July. If this core rise occurs on Tuesday 17th , that would mean a turn around time of 19 days this time , which was heaps slower than the last core rise. :rant:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

just getting back to the design discussion ... for random purposes of comparison i meant
to post this pic my son took of WTB Taipei 101 up there a few weeks back ...
i really like big E's 'clean' design but puzzled abt how some angles will look (I like Q1 too),
and i'm looking forward enormously to see how E shapes as the cutbacks
begin to appear in the next few stages - particularly as my regular view
from st kilda side is still its 'fattest' aspect.
At 101 floors, Taipei 101 is 509m/1671ft high and is marked with what architect C.Y. Lee calls "auspicious
emblems" from traditional Chinese culture: the green glass render meant
to mimic jade, and the staged rises to be "petal like bloomings" or bamboo shoots, the whole representing the Chinese concept of "upgrading
and fullness"...Mark thought they looked like a "stack of noodle boxes"
but that's okay ...he liked it. Personally i think Pelli got more high-rise
harmony and elegance in traditional concepts with the Petronas twins,
and interesting how much more impact they have had (perhaps because
there's two of 'em). See Taipei 101, WTB, is still only rated #92 in 'Rate
Our Talls' ...but we all know abt those world-wide forum polls now,
don't we...

edit:sorry i didn't expect this picture to be so huge...don't know what happened...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/Bronteboy/P1010012.jpg

Hi Barsby,

Which part is the podium? Also yeh i agree, any QLD v Victoria debate can be taken elsewhere, we all know Victoria is better and QLDers are just jelous ;)

I'm not an architect so anyone should feel free to correct me, but the podium literally is what it means - it's the platform from which the skyscraper rises. In the case of Eureka I take this means all of the lowest 10 floors, which have all of the street frontages/entrances/vehicular access.

If you look at a vertical plan of the building
http://www.aecbytes.com/feature/EurekaTower.htm
the podium is quite obvious, as it would be if you were standing in or near Riverside Quay; from any great distance away only the tower is visible (as most pictures show).

What a beautiful picture of Taipei 101, Bronteboy: I don't mind the noodle box comparison personally, the influence of traditional pagodas is there.

Hooray for a core rise - A-brain can revise his signature again!

Regards, Philip

last comparative intrusion in the Eureka thread ...this was Taipei 101 u/c
(off Rate Our Talls) Actually looks pretty good, doesn't it? Grollo Tower
wd have been more than 50m taller)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/Bronteboy/117900031.jpg

RE: ^

What an ugly looking building that is !! I would rather Eureka any day !

By the way , the core pour was cancelled today ! apparently , it was too windy ! :rant:

cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Bah, they've really gotta fix this facade error soon! It's now excruciatingly obvious:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/skortum/289421.jpg
Image from skyscrapers.com

stu

Bah, they've really gotta fix this facade error soon! It's now excruciatingly obvious:


and whats the bet they dont fix it till the rest of the towers complete? hehe

RE: ^

What an ugly looking building that is !! I would rather Eureka any day !

And it looks way out of place too! Nothing even half the size near it - YUCK!! Anyways, finally got my digicam working properly and took this pic a few days ago.

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~ciaobella/Scott/collinsstbridge100804.jpg

taken yesterday

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic177.jpg

^^^ Hang on? They fixed the panel or did you edit it?

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~wadad/mypic176.jpg

Regardless if the facade panel has been fixed or not, going over some certain forumers saying over the last few pages of this thread if it is not a great scraper of not, fuck it!; it is indeed already proving to be an ultra-fantastic scraper in Austraila! 101% :okay:

yeah! nice one Muse.
That's more like the spirit.

Thanks Icanseeformiles.

If either the previous shitbags particulary from other states have tended to do so, just call me in the number on my signature ;) - satisfaction guaranteed ;) !! I'll fix 'em str8 as far as Eureka Tower is concerened!!!!!

Which part is the podium? Also yeh i agree, any QLD v Victoria debate can be taken elsewhere, we all know Victoria is better and QLDers are just jelous ;)
I dont give a flying fuck about Eureka,Victorians,Queenslanders,Q1 its all bullshit i browse these theads purely to see the whats happening around Australias construction industry.Period,more forumers should do the same,anyone who thinks Melboune or G/coast will be known as having the worlds tallest resi is fucking deluded,most people seem to forget the word Australia when talking about those 2 buildings

spot on, Favelle!

i reckon there should be a webcam showing the construction status of eureka tower that would be really kool if anyone one knows anything about this could they please respond back to me by writing out a forum

porche911-
there was a great webcam (LSS) which was on forum for 6 months giving us a great view from Russel street of Eureka & FWP but the webcam now faces another direction.if you go to this website>
http://webcam.omni.net.au/
click on cam no 4 and you will get a view of rising Eureka from 240m up 101 Collins street spire!!
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yes it is amazing actually that we (Australia) have not 1 but 2 x300m skyscrapers going up simultaneously , which will not only be our country;s tallest skyscrapers BUT the worlds tallest of there type (apartment tower). ive been "into" skyscrapers now for 30 years and i still have to pinch myself about these two amazing structures!
Going on history, we might have to wait a while for another two scrapers of these type of designs & proportions.
hopefully the 'fights" will settle down a bit when E & Q are finally completed.
cheers

yeah a webcam would rock!
needs to be more webcams for buildings, seeming every building has a site, everyone should try and have a webcam.

My final comments on the Union thing:

I respect how hard the construction work is and hours are, but:

- If unions are so honorable and the hours are already that bad why do the choose to have RDO Mondays every few weeks yet work most Saturdays (at overtime rates)?

- The higher cost of construction is a major problem. Dont give me this shit about 'Why is Melb booming?'. Melb is booming coz its a great place people wanna live in, so developers are still making a profit despite higher costs, but one day on a major development perhaps in competition with other states its gonna cost us

eg. In 2000 Mirvac halted development of Yarras Edge for months and nearly cancelled the development because of unions.

enough with the unions

in the words of Dennis Pagan

No more!..........No more!.........No more!!

yeah a webcam would rock!
needs to be more webcams for buildings, seeming every building has a site, everyone should try and have a webcam.

maybe somebody should email the LSS guys and tell them to turn it back towars Eureka. Its a very boring street corner they are having on their webcam now ...
but then again maybe they turned it away from Eureka to avoid traffic coming from all the skyscraper fans! :bash:

The comapny that owned LLS moved their camera cos they moved offices an no longer face Eureka. :(

bummer. that sucks. we want more webcams!

Now for some good news!! There must have been a late crane rise on Friday or Saturday (despite weather) so all is in readiness for latest overdue pour'n'rise to take the core box into the 70's !!!

could someone please inform me when the next core rise is gonna be on (eureka tower)

tuesday. or thursday. btw ...because he's a legend been reluctant to say this, but can someone give someone a hint about the difference between 'their' 'there' and 'they're' - has been consistently amiss and seems a bit infectious.
oops. there i've done it...a nod's as good as wink to a blind duck, say no more, say no more :runaway:

They're: They are. For example, "they're going to the city."
Their: Talking about possession. For example, "it's their building."
There: For pretty much everything not described above. For example, "let's go there to get the best view of Eureka Tower."

Or (for Eureka baggers) ...they must be outta their frigging minds: they're not all there, are they? say no more...

A little opinion on Unions.

Yes they can be corrupt and can cause delays in construction,

but -

They protect workers who would otherwise have no recourse under adverse circumstances. Not everyone can afford to use a QC each time their employer places unfair pressure on them, and many of these men have dangerous, physically demanding jobs. For all those people who follow this thread and bag the union members, remember, those guys are building the monoliths you all admire so much, and deserve reward and recognition for a job well done.

Well said Osbourne. All large organisations have a small number of bad apples and the Unions are no different but on the whole they do a good job for their members.When was the last time we had a major building strike in Melbourne?.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/haksoz/Images/highpointpanosmall.JPG

Hacksaw owns us all - AGAIN!

My final comments on the Union thing:

I respect how hard the construction work is and hours are, but:

- If unions are so honorable and the hours are already that bad why do the choose to have RDO Mondays every few weeks yet work most Saturdays (at overtime rates)?

- The higher cost of construction is a major problem. Dont give me this shit about 'Why is Melb booming?'. Melb is booming coz its a great place people wanna live in, so developers are still making a profit despite higher costs, but one day on a major development perhaps in competition with other states its gonna cost us

eg. In 2000 Mirvac halted development of Yarras Edge for months and nearly cancelled the development because of unions.


SUNDAY.

EUREKA crane climbed today.
Spencer Street station got a new green machine today.
Freshwater had a crane come down today.
Vic Point had two cranes climb today.
Condor had a climb today.
Yve on St Kilda Rd got a new crane today.

and that's the ones that I saw, so that's why RDO's are on Mondays A- Brain, 'cause we are forced to work all weekend to prevent or at least minimise the possibility of dropping something on people's heads. Or some may say all this crane work happens on the weekend so people can take photos. So pure and simple, that's even an :) appropriately innocent reason, no skulduggery involved.

Yarra's Edge will continue to be built when the demand is there, not any other reason. Think about what is happening within 500 m of YE now, and this year. Vic Point, Dock 5, Watergate, Condor; very large supply and waiting for demand.

Whilst developers are making profits, they will take work anywhere. When the construction industry is quiet in Australia, most if not all of the larger builders will take work overseas. Multiplex, Bauldies, John Hollands, Civil & Civic, Leightons etc etc etc all have had or currently have work outside of Australia.
No business will stay stagnate and survive.

Final comments you promised, so me too. Understand that there are reasons for everything you have mentioned. As greynurse, osborne, favelle and others all realise, there is always a bad apple in the apple box, the battle is getting the apple out before the rot spreads. Certain pockets of every industry need constant pruning, and construction is no different. However, you never hear of the good stuff, just the crap. Do you know that construction unions provide the money through donations, raffles, coke machines, bbq's, etc for guide dog training, breakfast for kids in schools, sponsoring disabled athletes, christmas gifts for underpriveledged kids etc etc etc. We are not all monsters, so the stereotype wears thin and needs to be corrected. Most of us are fairly normal. :)

pic from today omni-cam
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/006eurekaaug16.jpg

I am pretty sure there is another core pour happening today !

that means the Core will hopefully rise by Friday ! :rock:

Expect the scaffolding on the west side to be configured shortly as the floorplates are at level 56 now

cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

pic from today omni-cam
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/006eurekaaug16.jpg

I'm sure in the near future this area with that river gonna looks like Chicago...;)

that area will definately have Chicago River charactistics if if keeps on producing 500ft+ scrapers such as 2sbb, FWP, Eureka ect..
should look quite cool actually.

http://photos.aberration.org/pics/010310-chicago_river/small/chicago-river-west-from-michigan-ave_s.jpg

http://www.striguil.co.uk/images/chicago/river.jpg

http://www.conway.com/ssinsider/images/bd010212b.jpg

Chad - hehe nicely observed. about a year ago I posed the question "What other city in the world has a true 'River of Skyscrapers'.. ?" and of course the only answer that came back was mighty Ch-Town ..

Cul - mate you just have photo's on tap dont you!! Gotta love Marina City's exposed circular carparks - when I saw it up close I thought 'God someone surely has backed their car off into the Chiacgo River at least once!!'

ANYWAY.. Lozza-meister you're spot on !! All guns blazing today with a core pour happening, West Wing Floor rise to expose the final Level 55 (though the 55 floor slab is still yet to be poured) ... and the Sainters are back in town !! (opps sorry wrong thread) ..

Yeah, Eureka will go through some big structural changes this Month

A-Brain Speaking of Genuine Carry On !

What about the "G - Train" ey ! ( 10 big ones ) :rock:

Lozza :bowtie:

PPS~ F Four provides carry on too ey ! hehe ! :drunk:

Chicago's river front looks awesome, can only hope that Melbourne looks remotely like that when all is done, all though Chicago has had a lot longer to get there city going than Melbourne has, not making excuses but u must agree that most of the buildings in Chicago look a lot older than those scrapers that are in Melbourne......With trump tower added to the river front at 343m (i may be wrong) it can only keep getting bigger and better. Just out of interest how big is Sears Towers? 450+?

Melb will never look like Chicago because we'd never build so close to the river's edge for fear of overshadowing - obviously that doesn't make chicago the most livable city in the world...hehehe

god, i prey it never looks like that top pic. how inviting and friendly that looks for a nice riverside stroll...i think not

Yeah, Eureka will go through some big structural changes this Month

A-Brain Speaking of Genuine Carry On !

What about the "G - Train" ey ! ( 10 big ones ) :rock:

Lozza :bowtie:

PPS~ F Four provides carry on too ey ! hehe ! :drunk:

He couldn't get half that against Scarlett lozza! Wait till they play a 'decent' team in Geelong again ;)

Back to the big E. Definately been a crane rise which has probably already been pointed out.

He couldn't get half that against Scarlett lozza! Wait till they play a 'decent' team in Geelong again ;)

Back to the big E. Definately been a crane rise which has probably already been pointed out.

Too right. It's almost unheard of for a non-midfielder to win the Brownlow... but Scarlett is a real darkhorse this year. I struggle to think of more than one or two times where he hasn't convincingly beaten the opposition full forward. Go Cats :)

So we're gonna see that first set back on Big E take shape in the next couple of weeks?

stu

visitor mariana fulgares paintbox picture of melbourne:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/Bronteboy/marianasmelbourne.jpg

just enough water and just enough sky, great shot Brontë! :)

just enough water and just enough sky, great shot Brontë! :)
and all i had was a tall ship, and a star to guide her by ...

Bronte!! Give your friend a kiss for us..

:master:

Couple of things to note in this pic ..

- Still got RDT to bring up the Eastern side of that shot by some way
- Still got a few metres to add to YE5 + Vic Harbour on the Western Side
- Still got 76m to add to that tower in the middle - now how f'n scary is that !! :omg:

From the train this afternoon there looked to be a crane rise? Is this true!?

Bronte!! Give your friend a kiss for us..

:master:

Couple of things to note in this pic ..

- Still got RDT to bring up the Eastern side of that shot by some way
- Still got a few metres to add to YE5 + Vic Harbour on the Western Side
- Still got 76m to add to that tower in the middle - now how f'n scary is that !! :omg:

thanks for that nice acknowledgment of (Peruvian student) Mariana's pic A-Brain, you old 'charmer,' she was thrilled ...btw i have now posted that fountain story promised months ago ('my contribution to the skyline', if you like) in a 'best of...fountains' thread in ozscapers if you were interested to see it at all. bests bronte :wink2: )

I am glad that Melbourne does not build as close to the river as Chicago has. In my mind, it makes the river in Chicago look more like a drain!

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/8436/101798436ml1092638729.jpg

Core rise today! Well there was a 1 floor rise by 4.00 pm.

Level 68 was visible this afternoon!

Great News !

That was a quick turn around time between the rise and the pour ! :banana2:

It is now 70 levels above ground ! ( ground level is actually level 1 ) :rock:

cheers

lozza :bowtie:

I was in Melbourne briefly earlier this week and I managed to get these pics of eureka on Tuesday before the core rise yesterday. Too bad I just missed out on the core rise. Anyway, it looks great from all parts of the city and can't wait until it's complete.

From Glenferrie Railway Station
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Melbourne/eur_170804_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Melbourne/eur_170804_2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/chrisso/Melbourne/fwp_170804_1.jpg

Yep she's all risen now..

71 Stories and 230.5m above ground !!! 2nd tallest in Oz now !!

This calls for multiple fruit celebration:

:cucumber: :carrot: :banana: :lock: :pepper:

Oh and a lock as well since it's a LOCK that Eureka is now super-sized..

It looks like they were also pouring the final Level 55 floorslab for the West Wing before the setback - I assume the roof of this level will not be cement?

PS. I'm now adding the correct 2m (not 1m) for the 'lip' of the corebox above the actual Level 71 roof (or Level 72 floor slab) height - hence the height calculation..

PPS. Thanks for great pics Chrisso !! Pity you couldn't make it for the big rise..

wow, just 20m to go to eclipse Rialto forever! so whats that 3 more rises? 3x3weeks=
9 weeks 0r mid 0ct?
also at 230.5m it must be RL233m , which is just 2m lowerr than Rialtos observation deck.

our moody melbourne - by fellow student visitor james (u.k.)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/Bronteboy/MoodyMelbourne.jpg

i'm working on a construction site near Eureka Tower and it is amazingly growing fast. All i do is watch the crane move here and there but sometimes it takes to long to even more in a small area but its looking good getting the core raise keep it going grocon boys

Wow another neat shot from your pals bronte - that one looks like a Lord of the Rings poster ..

Here's my usual collection from today post rise..

http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00861.jpghttp://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00860.jpg
http://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00863.jpghttp://users.bigpond.net.au/speckled10/Eureka/DSC00868.jpg

Well cul though its 'officially' taller than WT now I still think from most angles it doesn't yet look taller - it still needs to bulk up around the midriff and lose the wings ..

It will be 4 more rises not 3 before it overtakes Rialto. Also yes the RL of the top is 233m but isn't Rialto's obs deck 234m above Ground?

It's now visibly level with the top of Rialto from Caulfield now too :)

:banana:

abrain- Rialtos ob deck is 234m above grd and RL236m.its only 2m above yarra at flinders lane.some one should go up Rialto now as its view will be looking directly across at it. should look awesome

Gday

All i can say is that this baby is already Bloody Huge !

For those of you interstate , you just have to c it in real life to believe how awesome it is ! It just totally dominates the skyline coz there is no overly big towers around it ! ( Well , for the moment anyway until FWP really takes off !! hehe !!) :banana2: :lock:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Yes, it's hard to believe that PWC will be the same height as ANZ World HQ across the way when even sitting next to Eureka now.

...and to think that it will only be 12m/40ft lower to roof than Sydney Tower's tip of spire on completion :eek:.

Request:

When it's possible can someone take a close-up photo of the exposed core, would love to see the new numbers:)

Thanx Muchly

Request:

When it's possible can someone take a close-up photo of the exposed core, would love to see the new numbers:)

Thanx Muchly

next week or i can photochop it for u

Hey guys i know u all might understand these abbreviations, RT, PWC?! what are all these towers, for all use skyscraper novices can some please explain cos i am getting rather lost in the conversation! I'm guessing RT is Rialto Tower is it that hard just to write Rialto?! :)

Hey guys i know u all might understand these abbreviations, RT, PWC?! what are all these towers, for all use skyscraper novices can some please explain cos i am getting rather lost in the conversation! I'm guessing RT is Rialto Tower is it that hard just to write Rialto?! :)

WT= World Tower in Sydney
PwC = PricewaterhouseCoopers - who I work for and who will occupy about half of the FWP (Freshwater Place) office tower (also known as 1SBB = 1 SouthBank Boulevard).
RL = Relative Level (I think?!?), basically the height above sea level, rather then the actual height of the building.

Please correct me if I'm wrong....

RL=reduced level

So the question beckons ... what level will this baby be at by Christmas/New Year?

Hey, say I'm on drugs! But:

My estimate is level 84 by 13th December.

level 88 by jan 1st...maybe, because i hope they put some fireworks up there for NYE... it would look awsome, tallest points in town, or in Aus i should say, and the fireworks comming off it.
i hope the weather holds out for another week or so, then alot of places can get good speed building up.

Sorry about the wires but it's pretty damn hard to avoid them when taking a pic from your car ;)

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~ciaobella/Scott/190804flindersst.jpg

Looks who's peaking out over the top. From the corner of King and Lonsdale Streets...

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~ciaobella/Scott/190804cnrlonsdaleking.jpg

Looks good, how far more the core will reached the final height?

Well I think the core is at just over 230m now right? Has about another 60-odd metres to go for the core to top out :)

stu

I reckon level 80-86 by christmas/new year but i dont reckon theyll let the fireworks on there yet. cos of all the cranes and security reasons. and plus its too high in the sky anyway, normal fireworks go up like 700m in the sky and if theyre gunna be placed on top of 290m or whatever itll go up a 1km in the sky and end up being tiny. but thatss what i think.

Crane rise !!!

Amazing - only 3 odd days after the last core rise and the crane has already rise a full amount. Could we possibly see another pour'n'rise this week? That would be record time if so...

Anyway either way I think I calclutated earlier in the year it would be about Level 81 by Xmas - but yeah early 80's is definately on the cards - and it should be topped out by Grand Prix next year (early March) which will look sensational on the TV broadcast..

i think when 77 is exposed (thus 78/79 in corebox), it will be 253m high, thus eclipsing rialto! so thats 3 more rises?
as for height at NYE, i reckon 81/82? or 260m

There was 121 days between the last core rise and the end of the working year.

The core, on average has been rising once every 19 days so we should definiately see 6 core rises before the end of the year and 7 core rises if they can get it down to 17 days between core rises on average.

So it should be up to level 83 or 85 in the core box (81 or 83 visable) by the end of the year

Oh well,

At least bythe end of this year , Eureka will clearly be the tallest building in OZ , unless Q1 Erects its add on " Pole " by then too ! Hehe !! :bash:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Just a minor point/milestone, Eureka's crane, now raised, as pointed out by Abrain and confirmed by omnicam ( http://webcam.omni.net.au/ cam 04), is now probably the highest point in the Melbourne skyline (when fully vertical), approaching ~290m RL by my rough estimates, likely to be just eclipsing 120C, which is 286m RL IIRC...

the best seat/cabin in the house, now above Rialto's obs deck

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/eka 20040817.jpg

Sweet maria marko !!!

:eek2:

What a pic ... WOW. And yes skies your absolutely right !! A quick pixel-ruler check of that picture shows the crane is exactly 58.5m tall from it's visible base above core box to tip of the boom, so..

The Total Visible Height is 289m !!! And the final completed height will be just past the top of the photo boundary !!

And Cul your exactly right regarding Rialto-eclipsing height of 253m when 77 is exposed - but that is 4 more rises not 3 - ie. 70/71 then 72/73 then 74/75 then 76/77 exposed from now on.

Just a minor point/milestone, Eureka's crane, now raised, as pointed out by Abrain and confirmed by omnicam ( http://webcam.omni.net.au/ cam 04), is now probably the highest point in the Melbourne skyline (when fully vertical), approaching ~290m RL by my rough estimates, likely to be just eclipsing 120C, which is 286m RL IIRC...
120 collins st antenna reaches RL290m.so pretty equal atm. wow, must be a sight. imagine when e is 300m with 50m crane above at 350mRL!!

Damn Cul I keep mistaking 101C RL with 120C RL! ;)

Oh well, so they're pretty level atm, won't be for much longer though. :)

Yeah, a topped out 300m E with a 50m crane up top would be a damn site to behold! Probably will be as close as Melbourne will get to a 350m tower for a while!

OMG that is such a cool photo!!!

Yeah, a topped out 300m E with a 50m crane up top would be a damn site to behold! Probably will be as close as Melbourne will get to a 350m tower for a while!
It would be cool to be the crane operator - higher than anyone else in Australia!

ROSCO

Cool Pic Silver MB !

Heg guys ,, i have noticed that they are now starting to paint the concrete areas around the windows of the balconies! The colour is a dark grey ! Funny enough , they have started painting the balconies on the plant room level, which is about 1/4 of the way up the tower. ( i am pretty sure it is level 25 ) :banana2:

If you look closely at silver MB 's picture you can see that level 25 's balconies are darker than all the other levels , due to the grey paint .

I dont know if they plan to paint all the balconies , but is looks better than the bare concrete that is currently there at the moment . :rock:

PS~ hopefully, someone may be able to post a picture of what i am talking about.

Cheers

Lozza

:master: silvermb.
Fan-smegging-tastic picture there, you deserve the highest kudos! Definately worth the right-click-> save as treatment.
stu

Amazing pic from Eureka- I remember the view from up there in March, phenomenal- would love to see it in real life now.

Anyway looky what we have here:

http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/1.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/2.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/3.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/4.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/5.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/6.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/7.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/8.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/9.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/10.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/11.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/12.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/13.jpg

Views from the corebox anyone?

http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/21.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/20.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/19.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/18.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/17.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/16.jpg http://www.eurekatower.com.au/photos/aug04/15.jpg

Good Photography

wow! www.Eurekatower.com take cool pix!
looks fab

omg totally sick mate

wow, how did you get up there? construction worker? and youre from syd...and you get exclusive photos :/

wow, how did you get up there? construction worker? and youre from syd...and you get exclusive photos :/

They were taken from www.eurekatower.com.au.

A reason why you should always state where your photos come from.

They are awesome photos.

Here are some comparisions:

My picture Dec 02

http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/Southbank%20dec02.JPG

and uewepuep (I have hosted on mine dan hope you don't mind!)

And this one was taken by!?? Sorry Silver? Dan? tays? Grollo?
http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/fwpeureka0909031.jpeg


http://members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/IMG_4030small.jpeg

kasper you can just link to my site directly if you want.
i have like 40GB :D of bandwidth a month and i use 1GB :)
So yeah
its fine either way.


Silvermb when did you go up today?

wow, how did you get up there? construction worker? and youre from syd...and you get exclusive photos :/

lol i wish!
like has been said, they are from the Eureka website. sorry I should have said so in my post, didnt think.

It would be cool to be the crane operator - higher than anyone else in Australia!

ROSCO

unless you were a pilot, or the janitor at Mt Beauty High School, or a towie on the Mt Baw Baw poma:) True though, probably one of the only jobs in Australia where you can look directly out of your open windows or walk around on the back of the deck with only a bit of dental floss between you and <300m to the ground.:)

Request:

When it's possible can someone take a close-up photo of the exposed core, would love to see the new numbers:)

Thanx Muchly

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Thanx Pol you're a very good man :), living in Perth I don't get to see it up close, when I lived in Melb, I worked next to Rialto and watched every millimetre of it go up, so am a bit frustrated not being there to see Eureka go up:(.

Thanx Poly, Your'e a good man.

Sorry didn't see previous post, thought I'd messed it up.

Seeing those numbers is quite impressive, obviously floor sizes must be smaller for apartment buildings than office towers, remeber Rialto being in the high 50's and seeming unbelievably tall.

Gday Hardie ,

Yeah , Eureka's floor spacing is way smaller than Rialto's . About 3.25 metres compared to 4.2 metres !

Eueka won't be taller than Rialto till it reaches roughly 78 floors above ground :banana2: :banana:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

69 baby!

http://www.sayhey.co.uk/invboard/html/emoticons/huh.gif LOL

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I know someone always has to say this, but still no sign of them fixing up that white panel in the glass thats out of place!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! its really giving me the S H I T's!

I don't think it will be fixed till the glass panels are fully completed Barsby :rant:

Who knows , maybe they might keep it that way to be origional ??? :wtf:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Sydney's world Tower still holds the record for most floors in Australia!! (its hanging on to it for a little while longer yet! lol
83 in total or 73 above grd! so is Eureka 71 atm? so next core rise it will equal Wt above grd record.will be a while before it totals 84 levels.
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yeah a great exposed core!
they need a new message, like the all blacks one, but for the aussies over in athens.

Sydney's world Tower still holds the record for most floors in Australia!! (its hanging on to it for a little while longer yet! lol
83 in total or 73 above grd! so is Eureka 71 atm? so next core rise it will equal Wt above grd record.will be a while before it totals 84 levels.
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Bah! Prepare for extreme Eureka envy Cul.

The tallest building in the southern hemisphere is about to arrive.
:laugh: :laugh:

C'mon cul - counting floors below ground now? Clutching at spanners a little bit arent you!? ;) But for what it's worth - WT still looks taller than E in that pic, not sure if it's because of more floors or simply because it's completed .. ?

Now for the newcomers on the forum (i.e last 2 years) and in light of some recent 'then and now' pics - it's time for some extreme Eureka nostalgia

Ladies & Gents, Back when it was an embryo, I give you the Eureka display suite !! c.Jan 2001

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Cute huh?

yeah ive been in there it was huge....

and the set-up views and bathrooms also got a a3 copy of one of the apartments ;)

FARK it's getting big!!! :D

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^ Yes, and fuck it's getting big too Dottii ;)

The pic of A-Brain's from 2001 is worth it all! It's very streamlined and modern....and yes, very "cute".

does anyone think Eureka would have looked better in a different location in Melb?
If so, where?

Gday

The cranes have been on strike for the last 3 days because its too windy apparently ! :wtf:

How typical ey ! ( It's a hard life isn't it being with the Union !) :rant:

Lozza :bowtie:

Gday ICANSEEFORMILES,

I think EUREKA would look good at either Southbank or Docklands simply because it would be by far the tallest and it stands out even more because of it ! :banana2: :banana:

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

I suppose the blue and white facade is to recognise the flag of the Eureka Stockade along with the gold of the "crown". would i be right?

wow she's a big bitch now!!!!

yeah, good thinking, the resembelance to the flag.

blue glass, white stripes, and the gold crown for the queen (maybe) or for the fact that Eureka stockade was about gold.

height wise easy...

follow the highest contours in the cbd eureka is about 3-4mtrs above see level in my drawings where it could add another 30 mtrs putting it (north east cbd)

problem with eureaka is its so tall in the top apartments you wouldnt really feel like part of the ground almost disconnected

And thats a problem? i think living in the city and being able to escape the hustle and bustle would be unreal, i dont think we will see many complaints from the owners of apartments in the top 20 floors :)

Gday

The cranes have been on strike for the last 3 days because its too windy apparently ! :wtf:

How typical ey ! ( It's a hard life isn't it being with the Union !) :rant:

Lozza :bowtie:

:bash: Lozza, don't start up the union bashing debate again, please.

The cranes are not on strike, if a machine can go on strike (I, Robot - you, crane) The cranes haven't moved, as with every other tower crane in Melbourne that is exposed to the wind because the manufacturer of the crane sets a maximum wind speed that the crane can operate safely in. The current ruling on this in Melbourne is 20 m/s, or 70 kmh.

There is more than a crane safety issue here as well. Once the wind gets up like that, can you imagine a sheet of plywood coming down 69 floors, it would end up going through someones windscreen at Frankston.

So if you are to cast dispertion on a subject, please do some research so you are able to present an opinion based on fact rather than fiction, not too much to ask???? :)

I have to agree with you Favco the endless uninfromed union bashing by people really is getting tedious.
No organisation is ever going to be perfect but on balance the union movement has had a positive effect on society.

Gday

I agree with u guys , and i must admit , I was being a bit sarcastic, however, i did do my research. I know the cranes can't operate in high winds.

I was just trying to point out that it has been beautiful the last 3 days in melbourne and nothing really has been accomplished on our construction sites , which is typical , and frustrating for us skyscraper fanatics !

When taking all other factors into account , such as rainy days and strikes etc , its just typical of the how the construction industry in Melbourne conducts itself !! No one can tell me that they haven't got it easy in that industry compared to others , , coz they do !!! :rant: No lost time is ever made up , but wasted as usual ! i wish i could not turn up to work on a rainy day or go on strike for nothing !!

Sorry , no hard feelings , but thats just how i feel !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

i'd say so Drunkill...at least that was my interpretation.
the gold top is probably mean to symbolize the "Eureka" gold nugget that was dug up here in victoria somewhere.

Interseting today the West Floor scaffolding has risen another level - to what would be Level 56 exposed - except there is no Level 56 on that side (well if you don't count the roof that is) !!!! Maybe they've done it to enable laying of the floorslab of 55 (which they do after the scaffold is raised to next level).

Nonetheless I'm modying my sig to reflect this virtual Level 56 as the current level. Hopefully the scaffolding on the west side will finally start to come off..

Back to the wind/rain/union thing - I'm 100% with lozza - I'm frustrated at how many days are lost and never made up due to inclement weather. I've seen beautiful perfect construction conditions go by on RDO's only to be followed by lousy weather setting in for a few days on resume causing whole weeks of no construction.

Tell me do the workers still not get paid on days off due to weather?? I dare say the answer is a big 'YES' they do get paid

Favco - nothing will convince me the constuction industry is 99% honorable peaches and roses as you make out.. 5 years of close watching of construction in this town has proven that to me.

^^^^^

As a Melbourne Supporter would say , Here Here A- Brain ! ( Go you Dees you good thing !! )

Thats EXACTLY how u feel as a Skyscraper Fanatic when you have lived in Melbourne for the last 5 years !!

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

I agree with you Mr A. I think the building industry in Victoria needs a BIG shake up. Its is corrupt and evil and has far too much power. I woudl love to see it taken down a notch or two!

GGGGRRRRRRRRRRR

On days were there is wind or rain, we still get paid because we still go to work, pretty simple. Just because the cranes are not swinging around doesn't mean we are not there. There are many interpretations of what you seem to be inaction, but for every reason you give above as your thoughts of in-action, there is a simple and valid reason, most of which are either law or common sense, nothing to do with the actions of any union.

Lozza, you agree with me that the wind has been strong for the last few days and that it would be both illegal and extremly dangerous to operate a crane in these conditions, and in the next sentence you pronounce that the past few days have been beautiful in Melb town. GGGRRR, it has been too windy, simple. If you buy a new car, then blow up a diff by overuse towing a too heavy load, or doing wheelies, the warranty is null and void. Simple. A crane is no different. New cranes today have computers in them that disable the motions in heavy wind, and the only way to over-ride this is to switch the computer off. Once this happens, both the builder and crane manufacturer are immediately informed via computer that the crane computer has been over-riden, hence voiding warranty and probably giving the crane driver the quickest ride to centrelink he would ever have, union or no union. The cranes that bless our skies are equipped with black boxes similar to those in planes, they don't let the operator do something that will be deemed by the manufacturer to be detrimental to the integrity of the machine, and the newest cranes can record and report back via computer any attempt to overlift, lift out of radius or lift in windy conditions.

Rain is also a reason as you mention why the world of construction stops. Have a look on any construction site next time you are looking at the amount of power tools being used, the surfaces that the men are required to move about on and the fact that working outside leaves one exposed to all the elements. It is one of the most dangerous combinations, water and electricity, ask anyone who knows what happens when the two mix. A construction site is a constantly changing environment where a power board or wires can be installed one minute, and live the next. Do you wish to see more grim scenes of electrocutions. I have seen a bloke burnt and very dead through electrocution and it is a very distressing site. Have a look at crane accidents.com for some examples of when the two mix. Moisture in the air can cause electricity to jump and travel at every direction the water is, so this is a no go in many respects, not just by the unions. If you look closely enough, you will notice the rain only restricts the work occuring where the men are exposed to it. On any highrise or job where there are areas undercover, there will still be work happening there. And as a medical issue, can you imagine a nurse, a teacher or a word processor working all day with wet clothes, and I mean working working, not just sitting around. The chaffing alone would send anyone bananas.

Strikes occur in every sector of every industry that cares enough about its own and its future and the welfare of others. Our Ambo's have just been striking, our teachers, nurses, pilots, coppers, postal workers, beer truck drivers etc etc etc are all guilty of striking. It is not a phonomenen exclusive to construction. The reasons for striking is usually a last resort, as a show that the points a group of people are making are valid, or at least worth consideration when all other avenues of negotiation have been exhausted. Admitedly, some like beer drivers at christmas have alterior motives, but it is not always about money. Our teachers have to strike to provide our kids with quality education, not 45 kids in every room. our nurses strike to provide better levels of care for you and me as patients, and the reasons that a construction site strikes is 99% related to safety. There is no worker in Australia that gets paid for going on strike. When a building site is on strike, there is no pay.

Lozza, please tell me what industry you compare with when you state that "No one can tell me that they haven't got it easy in that industry compared to others , , coz they do." I challenge anyone to spend a day with me on the gun and see how easy they think it is. We have easy days, same as anyone else, but show me a kid at maca's, an engineer, a gp who works as hard as we do. The occupations that I have respect for are those who I believe earn their money, such as surgeons, ambo's & firey's, nurses and teachers, some engineers, and of course topless barmaids. Anyone who can cut a kid up and stitch 'em back together to me is a legend. A bloke, or lady engineer who can design a bridge that spans miles such as in China and France at the moment, they are champions. A nurse or teacher that can help people in their most trying times, especially nurses are just the biggest legends that walk this earth, for the shit they put up with, they just rock:) Lozza, I wish too I could not turn up to work when it was raining, but we gotta go.

A brain, please let us all know that if the weather is perfect on Christmas Day, do you want us to go to work. What about fathers day, etc etc etc. Not every job runs behind time. Not every job has realistic schedules either. There are reasons why successful builders are usually a bit older than 20, and that's 'cause they have been around the block a bit, so they know. I have worked all over Australia and seen many different examples of unionism ranging from the pissweak to the extreme militancy that you confuse all of us of possesing and every example provides late running, over budget, on time and under budget. Realism is the key that turns the wheels here. How quick is Eureka going now. And what was the reason it had the big slow down. ?????? A brain, I don't ever think I would describe anything as "peaches and roses." I will be the first to admit that there is rot and the first to say fuck it off, it gives a bad name to us all. But it certainly isn't as wide spread as some here make out. Every industry has bad apples. look at our fair and just police system, but it is in the best interest of all to eliminate as much of it as possible. Running down and putting shit on a collective group of people leaves nothing but a bad taste, there are thousands of good examples of construction worker for every rotten one:)

Either way it looks like there has been significant enough delays all around the construction site. I've just been told that there are letters on the way today informing owners of settlement being pushed back from mid-late September to mid-November, an 8 week delay on what was claimed only two weeks ago.

Another group of extremly hard working nice people just announced they are on strike this weekend. :) :) :) YEAH MELBOURNES PARKING INSPECTORS :) :) :)

It was just on the 6pm news on Fox FM. :) The official story was no tickets issued in areas where there are green signs. So free parking for all, us corrupt construction workers and those who like to watch us doing what we do second best, BUILD!! :)

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Plotty, I remember we went into put a few panels up crown towers 2 just as it was finishing, the whole joint was done, the sheds were being taken away and the panels we put in were the access way into the ground floor carpark/security area from the yard where the sheds were.

The guy holding the sign was directly opposite the entrance to the casino and was copping heaps of shit of every smart arse who drove past, so he modified the yellow half of his sign to say " SLOW, but getting paid heaps to hold this sign"

It was pretty funny and added a little humour to everyone elses day:) And that's what we all need eh Plotty, a bit more Humour :) :) :)

Shit Hot foto's revo, top one has some awesome colours in the glass :)

Regarding post #236:

Very well said Favco! I agree 100%, whilst not a construction worker myself I have a cousin whom is and know just how much tougher it is than people seem to think. Good onya mate.

stu

C'mon cul - counting floors below ground now? Clutching at spanners a little bit arent you!? ;)

:speech: :speech: :speech: . . . It's all about bragging rights! LOL

Even Queensland can't claim to have the tallest stick in the land because I think that Victoria still has that one down in Gippsland somewhere. Geez that must piss them off. ;)

GGGGRRRRRRRRRRR

Steady on tiger ... :rant:

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melbourne always looks the best from the south :)

Wonderful wonderful pics dan !!! And good news today peoples it looks like there was a core pour !!! Level 70's coming up this week.. :D

fav - I'm sorry mate but the more you try and spin these weak excuses for the unions the more you dig that hole. You know full bloody well whenever there is rain the gates to the site are locked shut and if there's wind (like this week) there are about 2 blokes and a dog onsite - so don't give us that garbage about still turning up to earn the 'pay'. Just like the garbage about working sundays all the time for crane reconfigs - they happen very rarely and when they do again only a handful of workers are onsite.

Good news today though seeing that criminal Craig Johnston put behind bars for that rampage just because some non-union guy borrowed the milk for his coffee (or whatever that was) ..

C'mon cul - counting floors below ground now? Clutching at spanners a little bit arent you!? ;) But for what it's worth - WT still looks taller than E in that pic, not sure if it's because of more floors or simply because it's completed .. ?

Now for the newcomers on the forum (i.e last 2 years) and in light of some recent 'then and now' pics - it's time for some extreme Eureka nostalgia

Ladies & Gents, Back when it was an embryo, I give you the Eureka display suite !! c.Jan 2001

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Cute huh?
hey what ya mean?lol the fact is World tower is a 260m/83storey concrete structure thats starts 30m/10st underground! im not clutching at anything.(maybe my nuts)lol
i even read this in an engineering mag last year heading was- "World tower-260m! tallest structure in Australia";lol
its all about concrete used. number of floors, superstructure etc..
imagine grabing Wt and ripping out of the ground like a weed, all of the 83 floors/260m would rip out leaving a hole! this is what i mean by the whole structure is 260m long.just that 230m is above ground.im loking at it from an engineering point of view.
but bottome line is HarryT uses this well by using basement as 1st floor and ground floor as level11, thus top floor is leve83. so this must impress public joe bloggs! its weird how Eureka being a 91 storey only has 1 floor below ground, very unusual for such a high number of floors. most tower this size have at least 5-8 floor below. must because of southbank swamp?

southbank swamp?

its only 2-3m above the yarra... im not sure

fav - I'm sorry mate but the more you try and spin these weak excuses for the unions the more you dig that hole. You know full bloody well whenever there is rain the gates to the site are locked shut and if there's wind (like this week) there are about 2 blokes and a dog onsite - so don't give us that garbage about still turning up to earn the 'pay'. Just like the garbage about working sundays all the time for crane reconfigs - they happen very rarely and when they do again only a handful of workers are onsite.

Good news today though seeing that criminal Craig Johnston put behind bars for that rampage just because some non-union guy borrowed the milk for his coffee (or whatever that was) ..

A Brain, the gates are not shut when it rains. Or when it it is windy. That's the fair dinkum truth. When it rains, the whole site including the two blokes and the dog are there and remain until it stops raining or until lunchtime, the rules are pretty simple, if you don't show up, you don't get paid. Surely there is an apprentice engineer or site clerk here who has to go around every day counting the numbers of men each trade has on site???? Once half the day (four hours) has passed, then the option of sending the men home that are working in the affected areas is there. Same with wind. Where you get your information from astounds me, 'cause I seem to think you must be walking around with your eyes wired shut.

"Sunday work for crane configoration - vary rarely" I must be living in an optical illusion or some kind of vortex then, 'cause I seem to be playing cranes every Sunday. I can guarentee that I am not doing it in my backyard or for fun.

You are correct about the handful of blokes onsite though when crane work is happening. This is law, only neccessary labour is allowed, the site must either be closed or have exclusion zones around the works. Wait and see what happens in the wash this week about something that might have happened today, there are good reasons for minimal labour levels. And wouldn't you support that anyway???

I don't think I'm digging any holes, and I am only sticking up for or at least supporting me and fellow like minded hard working blokes. The union is big enough and ugly enough to stick up for itself. I just despise the way some people put all of us into the same boat, 'cause it certainly aint the case.