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BUTEMBO21 October 16th, 2010, 05:34 AM Kinshasa: démarrage des travaux d’élargissement de l’ avenue des Poids lourds
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La modernisation de la route Poids lourds se fera en deux phases, ici un tracteur prêt pour les travaux (archive).
En présence du chef de l’Etat, Joseph Kabila, les travaux de réhabilitation et de modernisation de la route Poids lourds ont été lancés ce vendredi à Kinshasa. Quatre discours ont sanctionné cette cérémonie à laquelle plusieurs responsables politiques du pays et des diplomates étrangers ont aussi pris part. Le site choisi pour cette cérémonie était le pont Matete, à l’entrée même de l’avenue Poids lourds, au croisement avec le boulevard Lumumba.
Quatre discours ont sanctionné cette cérémonie.
Le gouverneur de la ville de Kinshasa, le représentant de l’entreprise Kitano chargée d’exécuter les travaux, l’ambassadeur du Japon en RDC et le ministre des Infrastructures.
Les orateurs ont, chacun, expliqué l’importance que revêt cette route sur tant sur le plan économique que social.
Ensuite, a suivi la visite des installations de l’office de voirie et drainage (OVD), où est installée l’entreprise Kitano.
La cérémonie s’est clôturée par la conférence de presse co-animée par l’ambassadeur du Japon et le coordonnateur de la cellule Infrastructures du ministère des Travaux publics.
D’après ce dernier, le coût des travaux est évalué à 57 millions USD.
Les travaux vont consister en la réhabilitation de la voirie existante, la construction des canivaux et l’aménagement des trottoirs.
Il sera également question d’aménager des aires d’arrêt-bus et autres zones de parking.
La première phase comprendra la réhabilitation du tronçon allant du pont Matete à la 14e Rue, et la deuxième, de la 14e Rue à la Gare centrale, à partir de février 2011.
http://radiookapi.net/actualite/2010/10/15/kinshasa-demarrage-des-travaux-d%E2%80%99elargissement-de-l%E2%80%99-avenue-des-poids-lourds/
BUTEMBO21 October 16th, 2010, 06:40 AM $57 million ? That lots of money of Avenue Poids Lourds. that means its going to be like Boulevard Lumumba . Same amount of money for both Boulevards.
Mulopwe, Kaps, Pius,
Is Poids Lourds able to be expanded to a 2x3 like Avenue Liberation or 2x4 like Boulevard du 30 juin?
Pius October 16th, 2010, 08:01 AM $57 million ? That lots of money of Avenue Poids Lourds. that means its going to be like Boulevard Lumumba . Same amount of money for both Boulevards.
Mulopwe, Kaps, Pius,
Is Poids Lourds able to be expanded to a 2x3 like Avenue Liberation or 2x4 like Boulevard du 30 juin?
Yes, definitely! It should be easier to enlarge (2x3) than Boulevard Lumumba. There is much less construction on the roadsides than along Boulevard Lumumba. The area is sparsely inhabited; you only have enclosed large tracts of land belonging to big companies such as ONATRA. However, the enlargement might be problematic at the beginning, right behind Boulevard du 30 Juin because of a rail bridge. But I am sure they did a conclusive feasibility study and have therefore found solutions to all related problems.
As far as the cost is concerned, it is so high because the building company is Japanese and the work will be funded by the Japanese government. Besides, it will be a sophisticated road with large sidewalks, parking lots, etc.
C-RDCONGO October 16th, 2010, 08:19 AM Whose building this the Japanese or Chinese???
Please tell me the Japanese and is there any pictures of this projects?
Hey do you think the drainage system will work unlike the ones that have been just built????
popa1980 October 16th, 2010, 01:11 PM God, with the wide boulevards and large population this city is crying for a Rapid Transit system.
kaps76 October 16th, 2010, 04:38 PM Whose building this the Japanese or Chinese???
Please tell me the Japanese and is there any pictures of this projects?
Hey do you think the drainage system will work unlike the ones that have been just built????
Financing of the project is done by the Japanese government. Unfortunately, the road will be a 2x2, and not a 2x3. I think they could have made it a 2x3 without much pain. Construction is scheduled to be completed by 2012.
The first phase is to be done between Pont Matete and 14th Street and the second phase will be initiated next year from 14th to Gare centrale. Total length: 12 km. Construction to be done by Japanese.
Again, I think 57 millions is a lot of money for 12 km of roads. I think they usually estimate about 2 millions per km but that depends on the specificities of the road.
I tried making a video but not too good. Sound and image not that great. Got to put the volume to max to hear something. Will be testing some other software. There is a render of the completed road at about 1.52 min.
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BUTEMBO21 October 16th, 2010, 04:52 PM God, with the wide boulevards and large population this city is crying for a Rapid Transit system.
True, i would love to see that as well. There is a Congolese who proposed a Kinshasa Rapid Transit last year. But this stone age government mentality would never think of anything like that.
Thing is Kinshasa already has an existing Urban Rail ( From the Airport into CBD ) it goes through the most populated part of the city and from West part of the city into CBD). If they could ad just 1 more line from West part of the city down to the University of Kinshasa and back to the Airport that will be perfect. But this Urban rail needs an absolute overhall. But that should be easy due to facts that it already exist.
But thats if we have a modern government, not these stone age goats.
BUTEMBO21 October 16th, 2010, 04:56 PM Good job Kaps,
I wish they would have made it 2x3. $12 km for 52 million. That's a Japanese company , not cheap with chicken salaries like Chinese. I think , they are also counting $2 million/km.
Financing of the project is done by the Japanese government. Unfortunately, the road will be a 2x2, and not a 2x3. I think they could have made it a 2x3 without much pain. Construction is scheduled to be completed by 2012.
The first phase is to be done between Pont Matete and 14th Street and the second phase will be initiated next year from 14th to Gare centrale. Total length: 12 km. Construction to be done by Japanese.
Again, I think 57 millions is a lot of money for 12 km of roads. I think they usually estimate about 2 millions per km but that depends on the specificities of the road.
I tried making a video but not too good. Sound and image not that great. Got to put the volume to max to hear something. Will be testing some other software. There is a render of the completed road at about 1.52 min.
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C-RDCONGO October 16th, 2010, 05:01 PM I am interested in seeing the quality of the roads when done.
The Japanese when they usually build they build great quality items.
It was smart of them to fund the project and also do the building.
At the moment this is how projects should be done with this government.
C-RDCONGO October 16th, 2010, 05:04 PM BUTEMBO21
I aggree yes its expensive but we are getting quality work.
Made by China is one ideology based on quantity over quality.
It seems so far that way.
Mulopwe October 16th, 2010, 05:44 PM Who is financing ???? Japenese. Shame that everything happening are either finance by world bank or others foreigners. Don't we have investment budget ???
Mulopwe
BUTEMBO21 October 16th, 2010, 05:53 PM Who is financing ???? Japenese. Shame that everything happening are either finance by world bank or others foreigners. Don't we have investment budget ???
Mulopwe
Investment budget? Their pockets will stay empty.:lol:
Mulopwe October 16th, 2010, 06:13 PM Investment budget? Their pockets will stay empty.:lol:
LOL LOL
Oh my god .....u made my day LOL
Mulopwe
BUTEMBO21 October 21st, 2010, 10:16 AM BUTEMBO21
I aggree yes its expensive but we are getting quality work.
Made by China is one ideology based on quantity over quality.
It seems so far that way.
Quantity has it own quality as well. Japanese also have a quantity ideology. Just look at their Auto industry. They rule in this business, thanks to the quantity ideology.
However, when it comes to things such as construction, quality is the king.
Quality and quantity both have + and - depending on the product.
If you want to rule a country well, don't have ideology, be the ideology.
BUTEMBO21 October 21st, 2010, 06:57 PM uFNcTfOA0EA
BUTEMBO21 November 27th, 2010, 10:47 PM After all these modernazion help. they must get rid of the "Kombi" Mini buses from hell.
I really dislike these hell polluters called fufa Kombi.
Epaphras June 1st, 2011, 04:18 PM uFNcTfOA0EA
Any update on this project?
BUTEMBO21 August 23rd, 2011, 07:02 PM Elargissement de la route des Poids Lourds : les travaux débutent fin septembre.Kinshasa, 23/08/2011 / Politique
Le gouvernement congolais et la coopération japonaise en RDC (JICA), à travers le bureau d’étude « Ingerosec », ont accordé leurs violons pour le redémarrage fin septembre 2011 des travaux d’élargissement de la chaussée à 4 voies.
L’élargissement de la chaussée des Poids-Lourds de 2 à 4 voies va donc démarrer fin septembre 2011.
Le gouvernement congolais prendra en charge ces travaux d’élargissement pour un montant d’environ 20.000.000 Usd. Tandis que la coopération japonaise viendra en appui à cette option d’élargissement, avec une contribution de 18.000.000 Usd.
L’annonce a été faite hier lundi 22 août par « Ingérosec », bureau d’études du projet d’élargissement de la route des Poids-Lourds à 4 voies.
Lors d’un atelier organisé dans la salle de réunions de la direction générale de l’Office des routes à Gombe, Arneaut Sébastien, consultant d’« Ingérosec », a présenté la conclusion du rapport final de l’étude technique détaillée (plans et bordereau) sur l’élargissement de la route des Poids-Lourds à 4 voies.
De cette conclusions, il s’est dégagé une cohérence avec le projet initial pour maximiser la réutilisation des infrastructures construites par le don et l’élargissement à gauche ou à droite de la chaussée du projet initial ; la définition de l’emprise (4 voies de 3,25 m avec 2 accotements de 0,5m ; 2 caniveaux de 0,9m ; 2 trottoirs de 2m ; une emprise supplémentaire de 4,2m pour les réseaux. Au maximum, 24m (largeur des trottoirs et emprise supplémentaire modulables si besoin).
Les deux parties se sont ensuite mises d’accord pour éviter des pipelines (de la SEP) existant le long de la chaussée. Mais aussi l’enfouissement des réseaux existants de la Snel et de la Regideso sous l’élargissement et la reconstruction à neuf dans le futur.
Au niveau du pont Bitshaku-Tshaku, il y a nécessité d’élargir le pont existant sur la gauche en démolissant les bâtiments existants.
Ce, dans le souci de préserver les infrastructures ferroviaires existantes jugées prioritaires. Cette décision a été prise de commun accord avec l’Office national de transport (Onatra).
Le bureau d’études s’est aussi rendu compte du fait que la largeur entre les piles du pont ferroviaire existant au niveau de Congo Container est trop étroite et ne permet pas l’élargissement de la chaussée.
Après consultation avec l’Onatra, au regard de la faiblesse du trafic ferroviaire existant sur le pont, et de la vétusté de ce dernier, il a été décidé de procéder à sa démolition.
Il y aura aussi la suppression des aménagements rendus inutiles par l’élargissement de la chaussée tels qu’arrêts de bus et arrêts d’urgence ; la conservation d’une aire de stationnement au niveau de la place Uzam.
Quant à l’adaptation du profil en travers au projet initial, le bureau Ingerosec a fait remarquer que cette conception permet notamment la conservation du caniveau déjà réalisé sur la droite de la chaussée, de la 14ème rue à Pont Matete ; l’évitement des pipelines, lesquelles resteront accessibles pour les opérations de maintenance.
Pour ce qui est du franchissement de la rivière Matete, il a été décidé d’élargir la plate-forme existante sur cette rivière.
Pour ce faire, une seule solution a été retenue à savoir la solution par mur de soutènement du fait que ce mur permet la réutilisation des exutoires et présente un impact minimal sur les structures existantes.
A en croire le consultant du bureau d’études, certains bâtiments et certaines infrastructures doivent être démolis pour libérer l’emprise suffisante à la réalisation des travaux.
Bienvenu Ipan/Le Potentiel
http://digitalcongo.net/article/77859
Pius August 23rd, 2011, 07:55 PM @ Butembo
There is already a thread opened by you on "Poids lourds".
BUTEMBO21 August 23rd, 2011, 08:22 PM There is already a thread opened by you on "Poids lourds".
:lol: :bash:
Thanks man.
Pius August 24th, 2011, 11:52 AM These gentlemen need to sing from the same hymn sheet. Initially, they estimated the overall modernization cost at $57 million, to be entirely financed by the Japanese government through the Japan International Cooperation Agency. Now, the cost is revised down $19 million ($38 million) with the Congolese government funding the project by more than 50%.
It seems that both sides jumped the gun last October by proceeding with the groundbreaking ceremony, whereas neither the feasibility study and nor the funding arrangement were ready. Hopefully the modernization work to be started soon will not experience such a hiccup.
Mulopwe August 24th, 2011, 06:35 PM These gentlemen need to sing from the same hymn sheet. Initially, they estimated the overall modernization cost at $57 million, to be entirely financed by the Japanese government through the Japan International Cooperation Agency. Now, the cost is revised down $19 million ($38 million) with the Congolese government funding the project by more than 50%.
It seems that both sides jumped the gun last October by proceeding with the groundbreaking ceremony, whereas neither the feasibility study and nor the funding arrangement were ready. Hopefully the modernization work to be started soon will not experience such a hiccup.
No surprise ..... operation retour .....
Mulopwe
Pius August 24th, 2011, 06:53 PM No surprise ..... operation retour .....
Mulopwe
I do not know if it is the case but it reeks very much of it.
Epaphras August 25th, 2011, 07:43 PM These gentlemen need to sing from the same hymn sheet. Initially, they estimated the overall modernization cost at $57 million, to be entirely financed by the Japanese government through the Japan International Cooperation Agency. Now, the cost is revised down $19 million ($38 million) with the Congolese government funding the project by more than 50%.
It seems that both sides jumped the gun last October by proceeding with the groundbreaking ceremony, whereas neither the feasibility study and nor the funding arrangement were ready. Hopefully the modernization work to be started soon will not experience such a hiccup.
If this is not perceived as lousiness at it best then please tell me what it is! How could JoKa conduct the inauguration ceremony of a project whose deal was still in progress?
iakobos August 25th, 2011, 07:50 PM The 57.6 million remain valid (1 x 2 lanes), what JICA (Japanese Coop) did was add 18.5 million to bring it to 2x2 lanes.
Pius August 25th, 2011, 08:38 PM ^^First of all, welcome to the club; it is a pleasure to see the SSC family grow at an exhilarating pace. Well, according to the Congolese Ministry of Infrastructure, the JICA was to fund the whole project and the Congolese government funded only the feasibility study, as clearly explained below by the Ministry concerned:
MINISTERE DES INFRASTRUCTURES, TRAVAUX PUBLICS ET RECONSTRUCTION
Le Chef de l’Etat a lancé les travaux de modernisation de l’Avenue des Poids Lourds
Le chantier « Poids Lourds » a officiellement démarré. C’est le Chef de l’Etat lui-même qui a donné le vendredi 15 octobre 2010 le coup d’envoi des travaux. Artère stratégique dans la gestion du trafic en provenance de Kinshasa-Est, l’Avenue des Poids Lourds relie...
sur 12 Km le Bld Lumumba au niveau du pont Matete au Bld du 30 juin par la Gare Centrale.
Elle occupe donc une place importante dans le plan de réhabilitation de la voirie de la ville-province de Kinshasa. Avec les travaux en cours d’exécution sur les Boulevards Lumumba et 30 juin, la modernisation de cette avenue changera le visage de Kinshasa.
Le Projet de Réhabilitation et de Modernisation de l’Avenue des Poids Lourds a été mis sur pied avec un appui financier de l’Agence Japonaise de Coopération Japonaise (JICA). Il comporte deux phases. Une première phase entre la jonction avec le Boulevard Lumumba et le croisement Avenue des Poids Lourds -14ème rue Limete pour un montant de 1 751.000.000 de yens, soit l’équivalent de 20,6 millions USD et une seconde phase, pour un coût de 3.352.000.000 de yens (soit l’équivalent de 39,4 millions USD, entre la 14ème rue Limete et la Gare Centrale. C’est l’entreprise japonaise KITANO CORP qui est l’attributaire du contrat de travaux pour la première phase.
Depuis la signature en septembre 2008 de la Requête de financement par le Ministère des Affaires Etrangères de la RD Congo, Il a fallu deux longues années pour que le projet arrive à ce stade, en passant par toutes les étapes du processus : signature de la requête de financement, rapport sommaire de l’étude du concept de base, échanges de notes, signature des Accords de don, signature du contrat de travaux. Pour les uns et les autres, c’était donc à la fois un sentiment de soulagement et de joie de constater que le projet entrait, enfin, dans sa phase d’exécution physique.
Compte du développement de la ville et des projets de voirie en cours d’exécution dans la capitale, Il a été convenu que les travaux de réhabilitation et de modernisation projetés sur l’actuelle route à deux voies soient conçus et exécutés de façon modulaire, en se projetant sur une route définitive de quatre bandes, pour désengorger complètement le trafic en provenance de Kinshasa-Est. Dans cette perspective, une enveloppe de 500 000 de dollars américains a été mobilisée par le Gouvernement de la République pour le financement de l’étude d’élargissement de cette route à quatre bandes.
Source: http://www.celluleinfra.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=128:le-chef-de-letat-a-lance-les-travaux-de-modernisation-de-lavenue-des-poids-lourds&catid=51:actualites&Itemid=479
Pius August 25th, 2011, 09:02 PM The following article, which explains the reason behind the delay, confirms that both sides jumped the gun by proceeding with the groundbreaking ceremony before concluding the feasibility study and the funding arrangement.
Réhabilitation et modernisation de la route des Poids Lourds
Mardi 23 août 2011
Les études terminées bientôt le redémarrage des travaux
Lancés le 15 octobre 2010 par le chef de l'Etat Joseph Kabila Kabange, les travaux de réhabilitation de modernisation de l'avenue des Poids Lourds ont connu un coup d'arrêt inexplicable. Dans l'opinion les commentaires sont allés bon train pour donner un semblant d'explication qui n'avait aucune emprise sur le réel. Car la vérité était tout autre.
Consciente des changements qui s'opèrent sous nos yeux quant à la configuration routière de la ville de Kinshasa, la partie congolaise avait souhaité modifier les standards initiaux du projet pour une option d'élargissement de l'avenue à 2 x 2 voies de circulation. Mais pour y parvenir,il fallait engager des études sérieuses. Ce qui a entraîné la suspension des travaux en attendant les conclusion du Rapport du Bureau d'études INGEROSEC recruté par le ministère des ITPR pour réaliser les études techniques de l'option d'élargissement
Du rapport final provisoire de l'étude
Hier 22 août 2011, dans la salle Baudouin de la direction générale de l'Office des routes à la Gombe, les partenaires intéressés par la matérialisation de ce projet dont la JICA (Coopération japonaise), le Bureau d'études INGEROSEC, la cellule infrastructures du ministère des Infrastructures, Travaux publics et Reconstruction, les entreprises concernées par ce projet et d'autres spécialistes du domaine dont ceux de la présidence de la République s'y sont donnés rendez-vous.
Au cours de cette rencontre, le Bureau d'études INGEROSEC a fait le point du niveau atteint par l'étude. Divers aspects ont été abordés dont le projet initial, le nouveau projet d'élargissement à 4 voies, l'orientation du projet, la conception de la chaussée, les contraintes de conception prenant en compte la présence du pipeline de la SEP, les câbles MT 6 KV de la Snel, les tuyaux de la Regideso, les câbles de l'OCPT. A cela s'ajoute la présence de trois ponts importants au niveau de Congo Container, de la rivière Bitshaku-Tshaku et au Pont Matete. L'élargissement sous entendant expropriation, des propositions ont été faites pour l'indemnisation des concernés. Selon certaines sources des contacts ont été engagés avec les propriétaires concernés pour leur indemnisation. La mise en œuvre de la procédure se veut exemplaire et transparente, afin de ne pas risquer de remettre en cause les conditions d'octroi du don pour la partie du projet financé par le bailleur de fonds (JICA). Les travaux ont été répartis en 3 lots. Le premier partant du Pont Matete à la 14ème rue pour une durée de 6 à 10 mois de travaux. Le second, de la 14ème Rue à la Base Navale, pour une durée de 6 à 12 mois. Quant à la dernière partie, la troisième elle partira de la Base Navale à la Gare Centrale et devra durer entre 10 à 12 mois.
Pour pouvoir le mener à bien, le pont près du Congo Container sera démoli, certains bâtiments et infrastructures aussi pour libérer une emprise suffisante à la réalisation des travaux. Les procédures environnementales n'ont pas été négligées.
Financement et coûts du projet
Prévus pour redémarrer fin septembre début octobre 2011, le projet de financement pour la réhabilitation et la modernisation de la route des Poids Lourds se fera sur un don du gouvernement japonais de 5,11 milliards de yens (soit une enveloppe globale d'environ 60 millions de dollars Us) signés en novembre 2009 et juin 2010.
Quant à l'élargissement, il sera financé sur fonds propres du gouvernement congolais. Le budget global prévisionnel du financement sur fonds propres est de 19.469.144 Usd pour les 3 différents lots.
Comme on le voit, les travaux de réhabilitation et de modernisation ont donc connu un coup d'arrêt explicable. Mais pour arriver aux conclusions de la rencontre d'hier, les parties ont du faire preuve de bonne volonté , et le Coordonnateur de la Cellule infrastructures, Amidou Sere n'a pas loupé l'occasion pour saluer " ce projet de bonne volonté, d'engagement, de sérieux ". Il a remercié la JICA (la Coopération japonaise) pour " sa flexibilité ". Si Amidou Sere ne l'a pas dit certains observateurs pensent qu'il voulait faire allusion à l'humilité, à la réceptivité de la partie japonaise qui malgré les remises en question incessantes du projet de départ est restée zen.
Philippe Mbayi Wete
Source: http://www.lobservateur.cd/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5460:rehabilitation-et-modernisation-de-la-route-des-poids-lourds&catid=47:nation&Itemid=49
Broda-Man August 26th, 2011, 12:31 AM Avec un peu de serieux on pourra aller bien plus loin la preuve est dns l'article.
i like the report !
kaps76 August 26th, 2011, 04:13 PM The least I can say is that this is ridiculous. Ground-breaking ceremony happened, then the Congolese realized they wanted a much bigger road. Suspended the work and then went back to the drawing board and came up with new plan in which the government has tu put in about 20 millions dollars. Though I applause the widening of the road, I condemn the way things were conducted. Obviously, having the japanese pay for the entire work was not good enough. They had to find a way to get some money for themselves...you got to grease the pockets of few people I guess. On the other end, the construction company will need to be compensated for all the time lost having their equipment sitting idle. Great way to work... If I understand well, the total duration of the work is to be between 22 and 34 months...a little over than 2 years...
oaifeimkEN4
ILOVERDC13 August 26th, 2011, 05:22 PM The least I can say is that this is ridiculous. Ground-breaking ceremony happened, then the Congolese realized they wanted a much bigger road. Suspended the work and then went back to the drawing board and came up with new plan in which the government has tu put in about 20 millions dollars. Though I applause the widening of the road, I condemn the way things were conducted. Obviously, having the japanese pay for the entire work was not good enough. They had to find a way to get some money for themselves...you got to grease the pockets of few people I guess. On the other end, the construction company will need to be compensated for all the time lost having their equipment sitting idle. Great way to work... If I understand well, the total duration of the work is to be between 22 and 34 months...a little over than 2 years...
oaifeimkEN4
So basically, they are going to double the road in size? I'm confused.
BUTEMBO21 August 26th, 2011, 05:34 PM Kokamwa.
Epaphras August 27th, 2011, 10:24 PM The least I can say is that this is ridiculous. Ground-breaking ceremony happened, then the Congolese realized they wanted a much bigger road. Suspended the work and then went back to the drawing board and came up with new plan in which the government has tu put in about 20 millions dollars. Though I applause the widening of the road, I condemn the way things were conducted. Obviously, having the japanese pay for the entire work was not good enough. They had to find a way to get some money for themselves...you got to grease the pockets of few people I guess. On the other end, the construction company will need to be compensated for all the time lost having their equipment sitting idle. Great way to work... If I understand well, the total duration of the work is to be between 22 and 34 months...a little over than 2 years...
oaifeimkEN4
Africa is ridiculed by its "goat-boys" governing elite. They already wasted 12 months since the so-called ground breaking ceremony was held in October of last year. This, added to the legendary snail pace work projects are usually carried out in DRC, I won't be surprised if the Poids Lourd Avenue project takes 5 years in the making when Congo Brazza next door can get it completed within a year and half!
ILOVERDC13 August 28th, 2011, 10:45 AM Africa is ridiculed by its "goat-boys" governing elite. They already wasted 12 months since the so-called ground breaking ceremony was held in October of last year. This, added to the legendary snail pace work projects are usually carried out in DRC, I won't be surprised if the Poids Lourd Avenue project takes 5 years in the making when Congo Brazza next door can get it completed within a year and half!
Let's all be optimistic!!!
Epaphras October 31st, 2011, 05:17 PM Kinshasa: démarrage des travaux d’élargissement de l’ avenue des Poids lourds
QUE DEVIENT CE PROJET? FABLE OU REALITE?
ILOVERDC13 October 31st, 2011, 08:20 PM QUE DEVIENT CE PROJET? FABLE OU REALITE?
FABLE!
depitcho October 31st, 2011, 08:52 PM FABLE!
C'EST POURQUOI NOUS AVONS CE RDV POUR CHANGER LES CHOSES SINON... AH!
jeroboamed October 31st, 2011, 09:14 PM JKK FOR PRESIDENT
jeroboamed October 31st, 2011, 09:17 PM ça arrivera, parceque si on commence a réhabilité cette route, cela créera des embouteillages montres...attendons la fin du bld lumumba, peut etre apres les travaux commencerons, car pour l'instant, cette route permet de faire des deviations importantes.
JKK for president!
BUTEMBO21 October 31st, 2011, 09:32 PM ça arrivera, parceque si on commence a réhabilité cette route, cela créera des embouteillages montres...attendons la fin du bld lumumba, peut etre apres les travaux commencerons, car pour l'instant, cette route permet de faire des deviations importantes.
Je pense que t'as raisons. parceque. la deviation du Boulevard Lumumba se juste cette Avenue de Poids Lourds. si on la modernize a se moment, sa sera catastrophique.
ILOVERDC13 November 1st, 2011, 10:48 AM Je pense que t'as raisons. parceque. la deviation du Boulevard Lumumba se juste cette Avenue de Poids Lourds. si on la modernize a se moment, sa sera catastrophique.
Oh! cmon on kill me now!! That's another false excuse from the JoKa's administration. If that was the case why would someone make a big fuss about it when they know, they are not constructing it anytime soon.
l'ecclesiaste November 1st, 2011, 01:16 PM Oh! cmon on kill me now!! That's another false excuse from the JoKa's administration. If that was the case why would someone make a big fuss about it when they know, they are not constructing it anytime soon.
RDC » Réhabilitation de l’avenue de Poids lourds.
http://www.congobilili.com/4755
ILOVERDC13 November 1st, 2011, 09:28 PM RDC » Réhabilitation de l’avenue de Poids lourds.
http://www.congobilili.com/4755
With the image, we can all confirm that excuse was totally false:)
Pius November 2nd, 2011, 04:22 AM With the image, we can all confirm that excuse was totally false:)
What about your assertion that the project was a "FABLE"?
amampuya November 2nd, 2011, 05:44 AM With the image, we can all confirm that excuse was totally false:)
We Congolese, we should learn to be patient, resist jumping
to conclusion too soon.
It is also a good habit to get the information from
the party responsible to know exactly the issue.
We should always remind ourselves that practice is different
from theory, in fact reality is more complex than theory.
Also, we should be careful not to let our own (negative) bias
gets in the way of our objective judgement.
We should assume good in people unless proven otherwise.
BUTEMBO21 November 2nd, 2011, 06:43 AM We Congolese, we should learn to be patient, resist jumping
to conclusion too soon.
It is also a good habit to get the information from
the party responsible to know exactly the issue.
We should always remind ourselves that practice is different
from theory, in fact reality is more complex than theory.
Also, we should be careful not to let our own (negative) bias
gets in the way of our objective judgement.
We should assume good in people unless proven otherwise.
:applause:
Unfortunately : that will fall on Tribal mentality ears that some of our own champions in this forum .
ILOVERDC13 November 2nd, 2011, 10:14 AM What about your assertion that the project was a "FABLE"?
I use the word "FABLE" in attempt to get information from the known JoKa supporters in the forum. Obviously we all know this project will be done whenever therefore it couldn't be "FABLE". It was more of a provocative attempt with an immediate effect and I'm obviously satisfied with the result.:)
We Congolese, we should learn to be patient, resist jumping
to conclusion too soon.
It is also a good habit to get the information from
the party responsible to know exactly the issue.
We should always remind ourselves that practice is different
from theory, in fact reality is more complex than theory.
Also, we should be careful not to let our own (negative) bias
gets in the way of our objective judgement.
We should assume good in people unless proven otherwise.
I totally fail to understand why you quote me:ohno:. Can you please tell why are you telling me this like I don't know it as a Congolese? Thank you:)
:applause:
Unfortunately : that will fall on Tribal mentality ears that some of our own champions in this forum .
I'm 100% positive that you are speaking for yourself and you have yourself a tribal mentality.
Pius November 2nd, 2011, 12:20 PM We Congolese, we should learn to be patient, resist jumping
to conclusion too soon.
It is also a good habit to get the information from
the party responsible to know exactly the issue.
We should always remind ourselves that practice is different
from theory, in fact reality is more complex than theory.
Also, we should be careful not to let our own (negative) bias
gets in the way of our objective judgement.
We should assume good in people unless proven otherwise.
Thanks Amampuya for this essential reminder; hopefully, as Butembo says, it will not fall on deaf ears for the sake of constructive discussion on the forum.
Pius November 2nd, 2011, 02:49 PM The original design of avenue des Poids lourds; it has been improved to a 2x2 lane-road as a result of the recent Congolese-Japanese agreement.
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/AvenuedesPoidslourds1.jpg
young po November 2nd, 2011, 05:13 PM Thanks Amampuya for this essential reminder; hopefully, as Butembo says, it will not fall on deaf ears for the sake of constructive discussion on the forum.
This is what I call pessimism porn addiction, this pathology is well widespread in the diaspora....
Epaphras November 2nd, 2011, 06:51 PM The original design of avenue des Poids lourds; it has been improved to a 2x2 lane-road as a result of the recent Congolese-Japanese agreement.
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/AvenuedesPoidslourds1.jpg
It's okay to add a bite of dark and white colors to create some impressive contrast but, is it what this previously-named "super highway" supposed to be?
Pius November 2nd, 2011, 07:39 PM ^^Who named it a “super highway”, where did you read it? The following article (initially posted by Butembo as an introduction to the thread) is about the initial presentation of the project, which corresponds to the render:
Kinshasa: démarrage des travaux d’élargissement de l’ avenue des Poids lourds
octobre 15, 2010, sous Actualité, La Une, National.
La modernisation de la route Poids lourds se fera en deux phases, ici un tracteur prêt pour les travaux (archive).
En présence du chef de l’Etat, Joseph Kabila, les travaux de réhabilitation et de modernisation de la route Poids lourds ont été lancés ce vendredi à Kinshasa. Quatre discours ont sanctionné cette cérémonie à laquelle plusieurs responsables politiques du pays et des diplomates étrangers ont aussi pris part. Le site choisi pour cette cérémonie était le pont Matete, à l’entrée même de l’avenue Poids lourds, au croisement avec le boulevard Lumumba.
Quatre discours ont sanctionné cette cérémonie.
Le gouverneur de la ville de Kinshasa, le représentant de l’entreprise Kitano chargée d’exécuter les travaux, l’ambassadeur du Japon en RDC et le ministre des Infrastructures.
Les orateurs ont, chacun, expliqué l’importance que revêt cette route sur tant sur le plan économique que social.
Ensuite, a suivi la visite des installations de l’office de voirie et drainage (OVD), où est installée l’entreprise Kitano.
La cérémonie s’est clôturée par la conférence de presse co-animée par l’ambassadeur du Japon et le coordonnateur de la cellule Infrastructures du ministère des Travaux publics.
D’après ce dernier, le coût des travaux est évalué à 57 millions USD.
Les travaux vont consister en la réhabilitation de la voirie existante, la construction des canivaux et l’aménagement des trottoirs.
Il sera également question d’aménager des aires d’arrêt-bus et autres zones de parking.
La première phase comprendra la réhabilitation du tronçon allant du pont Matete à la 14e Rue, et la deuxième, de la 14e Rue à la Gare centrale, à partir de février 2011.
Source: http://radiookapi.net/actualite/2010/10/15/kinshasa-demarrage-des-travaux-d%E2%80%99elargissement-de-l%E2%80%99-avenue-des-poids-lourds/
Epaphras November 2nd, 2011, 10:48 PM Go read every commentary on the topic and you'll find it.
Pius November 2nd, 2011, 11:25 PM Go read every commentary on the topic and you'll find it.
I have gone through all the commentaries on the thread but I have not found a single instance of the avenue des Poids lourds being named “super highway”. Would you be so kind as to indicate me precisely which commentaries you are referring to?
Epaphras November 3rd, 2011, 10:28 PM I have gone through all the commentaries on the thread but I have not found a single instance of the avenue des Poids lourds being named “super highway”. Would you be so kind as to indicate me precisely which commentaries you are referring to?
I well remember you calling it a futur "world class"...blv..something...in one of your commentaries in reference to this project. Now, it may not necessarily be on this thread. If Im wrong, accept dear Sir my apology! But Im positive......We're just trying to keep track on what is being promised and reality to sort out what can be perceived as propaganda so no one is fooled. Don't we need some checks and balances?
Pius November 10th, 2011, 04:03 PM Mulopwe, Kaps, Pius,
Is Poids Lourds able to be expanded to a 2x3 like Avenue Liberation or 2x4 like Boulevard du 30 juin?
It should be easier to enlarge (3x3 or even 4x4 lanes) than Boulevard Lumumba. There is much less construction on the roadsides than along Boulevard Lumumba. The area is sparsely inhabited; there are only enclosed large tracts of land belonging to big companies such as ONATRA. Last but not least, the road is rectilinear, which should facilitate the construction.
JoKa was right to demand the renegotiation of the project with the Japanese government, for it would have been a mistake to proceed with the modernization of a 1x1 lane arterial road knowing that road traffic will increase dramatically in Kinshasa in the coming years as the population keeps mushrooming.
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/poidlourd-006.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/poidlourd-007.jpg
Newcongo November 10th, 2011, 04:24 PM yes 1x1 lane wouldnt be much of a rehabilitation. do you know if kimbuta is running for governor next year? By the way thanks for your updates
Pius November 10th, 2011, 05:02 PM do you know if kimbuta is running for governor next year? By the way thanks for your updates
I hope not. It is rumoured that he will be replaced with She Okitundu, the former Foreign Minister and diplomatic advisor to JoKa, in case of PPRD victory.
BUTEMBO21 November 10th, 2011, 05:26 PM It should be easier to enlarge (3x3 or even 4x4 lanes) than Boulevard Lumumba. There is much less construction on the roadsides than along Boulevard Lumumba. The area is sparsely inhabited; there are only enclosed large tracts of land belonging to big companies such as ONATRA. Last but not least, the road is rectilinear, which should facilitate the construction.
JoKa was right to demand the renegotiation of the project with the Japanese government, for it would have been a mistake to proceed with the modernization of a 1x1 lane arterial road knowing that road traffic will increase dramatically in Kinshasa in the coming years as the population keeps mushrooming.
Thanks a lot for the exclussive photos as always.
Yes, i think he was right. because when i saw that road, it could be bigger, but that was a long time ago. didn't know how the constructions were along that road.
Along the road there is als the RailRaod. Gare Central to Place de la Reconstruction to N'djili and Kasangulu.
OP. What happened to the Rail thats goes all the way to Kintambo magasin/Ngaliema.?
I will be in Kin next year in the summer time. so i will be able to see reality.
Epaphras November 10th, 2011, 10:26 PM It should be easier to enlarge (3x3 or even 4x4 lanes) than Boulevard Lumumba. There is much less construction on the roadsides than along Boulevard Lumumba. The area is sparsely inhabited; there are only enclosed large tracts of land belonging to big companies such as ONATRA. Last but not least, the road is rectilinear, which should facilitate the construction.
JoKa was right to demand the renegotiation of the project with the Japanese government, for it would have been a mistake to proceed with the modernization of a 1x1 lane arterial road knowing that road traffic will increase dramatically in Kinshasa in the coming years as the population keeps mushrooming.
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/poidlourd-006.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/poidlourd-007.jpg
I hope JoKa or any responsible president from the upcoming elections' verdict will seriously work on restoring the right modern urbanism in Kin. Walls like those seen here are one of the thousands illegal constructions that are spreading at an alarming rate across Kin eating up avenues, streets, blvrds and must be stopped by systematically destroying them.
BUTEMBO21 November 10th, 2011, 11:25 PM I hope JoKa or any responsible president from the upcoming elections' verdict will seriously work on restoring the right modern urbanism in Kin. Walls like those seen here are one of the thousands illegal constructions that are spreading at an alarming rate across Kin eating up avenues, streets, blvrds and must be stopped by systematically destroying them.
Sadly, its the Kinshasa Government that sell the land. So, next governor better not have mercy on those who sell land and those who buy land. they also need tp punish those who don't respect Land-Road perimeters.
l'ecclesiaste November 14th, 2011, 11:38 AM I hope JoKa or any responsible president from the upcoming elections' verdict will seriously work on restoring the right modern urbanism in Kin. Walls like those seen here are one of the thousands illegal constructions that are spreading at an alarming rate across Kin eating up avenues, streets, blvrds and must be stopped by systematically destroying them.
Tout celui qui connait Kin tres bien reconnait la cloture de la concession d'onatra dont une partie avait ete spoliee par les habitants du quartiert Lunda fasant reference au bana lunda et cela avant 1997.
Epaphras November 14th, 2011, 07:06 PM Tout celui qui connait Kin tres bien reconnait la cloture de la concession d'onatra dont une partie avait ete spoliee par les habitants du quartiert Lunda fasant reference au bana lunda et cela avant 1997.
???...I hope you're not suggesting that I may not know Kin as thoroughly as anyone may think, after all...It's kind of silly, bcse it was my playground before it became my "village Molokay"...!!! We danced to the Kale Jefs', Tabu Ley, Dr. NICO...,Franco, Verkyss, Trio MAJESI, Bavon Marie Marie, Papa Wemba.....YSS Boys....rythms!...If this doesn't remind you anything at all then you're the one who could be a "mapeka"...(just kidding!)
The narrow picture's view of the wall makes it hard to identify it as part of the decrepit OTRACO's fence, on the spot.
kaps76 July 17th, 2012, 06:01 PM We now have a good look of what the road will look like. Good work so far.
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Pius July 17th, 2012, 07:06 PM We now have a good look of what the road will look like. Good work so far.
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Beautiful! Now, one can see what a good idea it was to upgrade “Poids lourds” into a four-lane road instead of two, as the Japanese were originally planning; the renegotiation of the contract and the attending delays were not in vain. The Cité du Fleuve will be one of the benefiaries of the new highway.
Karavia July 18th, 2012, 12:56 PM Great news!! Pius you're right, the upgrade was a good idea. But RTNC:ohno: :down:
BUTEMBO21 July 18th, 2012, 01:37 PM :lol:, ...... RTNC must get rid of those old people who don't even know how to use Iphone... They must leave that TV to the young Tech savvy..... Anyways, there are still enough space left for bus lanes with the Raillines tranquille.
Pius October 3rd, 2012, 10:35 PM Update 20.09.2012
The Japanese company Kitano is doing a great job; hopefully, the sidewalks to be built will be as excellent as the road.
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/Kinroute5.jpg
screenshotartist October 4th, 2012, 05:34 AM ^^^ :applause:
bandundu October 4th, 2012, 08:32 AM Update 20.09.2012
The Japanese company Kitano is doing a great job; hopefully, the sidewalks to be built will be as excellent as the road.
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/Kinroute5.jpg
Thanks puis for these great pictures. You have no idea the kind of pride that we feel when we look at these pictures
Karavia October 4th, 2012, 09:30 AM :cheers: Génial! J'imagine qu'avec les rails qu'on voit un tram ou un train passera d'ici 2 ans et ça :applause:
Angalisho October 4th, 2012, 11:27 AM Very nice indeed...
beta-omegakin October 6th, 2012, 04:11 PM so niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee j'adoreeeeeeeeee
Newcongo October 8th, 2012, 04:13 PM Nice
Newcongo October 8th, 2012, 04:15 PM This video dates to july but it concentrates more on the sidewalks under construction good to see that this company is doing a good job.
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Karavia October 8th, 2012, 10:21 PM Très belle vidéo! J'espère que les étalages qu'on voit au bord de la route vont disparaître. Il faut n police de proximité, des agents de quartier et des équipes de nettoyage pour maintenir l'ordre, la propreté. Est ce trop demander? À quoi servent les bourgmestres?
Newcongo October 8th, 2012, 10:36 PM Thanks, yes i also wonder what these bourgoumestre do. i also want to know when kimbuta is going
Broda-Man October 8th, 2012, 10:54 PM Quelles conditions faut-il remplir pour etre nomme bourgmestre?
ILOVERDC13 October 24th, 2012, 01:55 PM Quelles conditions faut-il remplir pour etre nomme bourgmestre?
Quelles conditions kabila avait remplis pour etre president?
Broda-Man October 24th, 2012, 05:45 PM Quelles conditions kabila avait remplis pour etre president?
I don't know. But what how are they connected? President - Bourgmestre?
ILOVERDC13 October 24th, 2012, 09:57 PM I don't know. But what how are they connected? President - Bourgmestre?
But you know... Just like how Kabila became president, that is how a bourgemestre can be in the chair, that is the link up we might find in DRC.
Broda-Man October 24th, 2012, 10:46 PM But you know... Just like how Kabila became president, that is how a bourgemestre can be in the chair, that is the link up we might find in DRC.
Non non, ma question n'est pas la. Elle est toute simple. What are the official criterias? As in what do you need to do or dunno..like for the elections you had to pay a certain amount and fulfil some other criterias.
Pius January 6th, 2013, 02:38 AM Update 4.01.2013
The road base is laid and the construction of storm drain completed. The laying of the wearing surface on the remaining 8 km road stretch will start soon.
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/P1160087_zpsabf2c81b.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/P1160074_zps881289ea.jpg
Stanilasc8 January 6th, 2013, 09:12 AM Nice love the Sidewalk but those Yellow blue buses need to go, Congo need Taxis not buses' and those taxis need to come from the RDC Government
Pius January 16th, 2013, 09:45 PM Work in progress
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/P1160085_zps25b4d3b4.jpg
Pius January 16th, 2013, 09:47 PM http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/P1160081_zps4ddbbc7e.jpg
Pius January 16th, 2013, 09:49 PM http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/P1160079_zps1b823f97.jpg
Pius January 16th, 2013, 09:50 PM http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l606/Mwanamayi/P1160078_zps1a18ecfe.jpg
Broda-Man January 17th, 2013, 10:52 AM no comment. work in progress indeed.
kaps76 January 17th, 2013, 03:29 PM Thanks for the update. nice to see that work has indeed resumed as they had to face to construction issues (optical cable, SNEL cable that had to be moved).
BUTEMBO21 January 17th, 2013, 07:36 PM Those trees still breath. its a miracle.
Karavia February 25th, 2013, 02:45 PM Thanks for the update. nice to see that work has indeed resumed as they had to face to construction issues (optical cable, SNEL cable that had to be moved).
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Karavia May 21st, 2013, 05:35 PM Contrat d’attribution des travaux du dernier lot de la route des Poids Lourds à Kinshasa
Des travaux ont démarré par la démolition de nombreux obstacles situés sur l’emprise de la route des Poids Lourds en vue de répondre aux standards de celle-ci qui aura désormais quatre bandes dont deux de chaque côté.
Ils concernent principalement le déplacement des câbles d’énergie électrique, les câbles téléphoniques, la tuyauterie de la Regideso et des murs de clôture de certaines entreprises et du pont Lomata.
La Société « Kitano Corp », adjudicataire des travaux de réhabilitation et de modernisation de la route des Poids Lourds, a signé lundi un contrat d’attribution des travaux du dernier lot qui va , de la Base de la Force navale des Forces armées de la République Démocratique du Congo (FARDC) à la Gare centrale, long de 3,5 km, avec la Cellule Infrastructures du ministère de l’Aménagement du Territoire, Urbanisme, Habitat, Infrastructures, Travaux publics et Reconstruction pour une durée de 12 mois, a indiqué jeudi Théophile Ntela, son coordonnateur au cours d’un entretien vendredi avec un journaliste de l’ACP.
M. Ntela a précisé que la contrepartie congolaise pour l’élargissement de la route a été versée anticipativement dans le but de permettre à l’entreprise Kitano Corp d’exécuter des travaux dans la quiétude.
La route des Poids Lourds réhabilitée et modernisée aura une largeur de 13 m avec un trottoir de 0,90m séparé par des caniveaux, une couche de fondation en grave concassée 0/40 de 17 à 35 cm d’épaisseur, d’une couche de base en grave concassée 0/31,5 cm d’épaisseur et une couche de revêtement en béton bitumineux de 7cm d’épaisseur.
Le projet de réhabilitation et de modernisation de la route des Poids Lourds, rappelle-t-on, est le premier projet routier financé par la coopération japonaise en sa première conception d’une route de deux voies à une bande chacune sur une longueur de près de 12 km pour un montant de 60.035.000 USD. La société Kitano a déjà réhabilité et modernisé 8 km, soit du pont Matete à la Base navale FARDC de Ndolo dont la première phase qui va du pont Matete à la 14ème rue Limete est déjà réceptionnée par le gouvernement, à la grande satisfaction de la population.
Source: ACP
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