...tonight on RTE





Micheal Collins (my choice)

John Hume

Bono (lol!)

Mary Robinson

James Connolly



You can tell straight away RTE put this to a public vote. Over the last 5 weeks the candidates have been lauded on different programs about why they should be given the title.


Pick Bono for the laugh though....

How disappointing, the list lacks Irish people that have made a great contribution to culture and history.

Where is Yeats, Wilde, Joyce and O'Connell for example.

I know many don't think she's an appropriate candidate, but I really feel Robbo is underestimated in the significance she has played in this country's history...
I thought David McWilliams put forward a very compelling case for her, but unfortunately it was too late.

Collins will win; mainly due to the film Neil Jordan made about him!!!

Hopefully Bono will come last. It's a joke that he was even put in there!!!

I agree with belfastuniguy.

I'd also like to have seen some people like T. K. Whitaker or Noël Browne on the list.

I hope Collins wins tonight, though. Actually, anyone but Bono.

And it goes to................John Hume


- Firstly wtf!?

- Secondly Micheal Collins was the finest economic and military brain of the last century. Even Birkenhead said he would have been worth 10 Generals such was the respect they had for him.


I don't doubt Hume's ability and intellect or the work he did in the North but this is simply wrong IMHO. Let's get real - the guy has not been murdered or executed for the cause has he?

Anmd I know from reading dispatches between the SDLP and the Department on NI in Dublin that he was no angel either.

It was a vote for Miriam O'Callaghan... Although, John Hume is indeed a venerable candidate and worthy of some accolade.
I'm not the biggest Michael Collins fan I have to say, but there could have been better choices I think.
I know many see him as an opportunist, but Theobald Wolftone's message always stood out as admirable to me. I was surprised no pre-20th century candidates were included in the list.

Anmd I know from reading dispatches between the SDLP and the Department on NI in Dublin that he was no angel either.

I've heard the rumours/stories from those in the know, poor Pat. However, his personal indiscretions shouldn't really impact on the greater good he did for others...

Irish TV sucks so this doesn't count for anything.

And it goes to................John Hume


- Firstly wtf!?

- Secondly Micheal Collins was the finest economic and military brain of the last century. Even Birkenhead said he would have been worth 10 Generals such was the respect they had for him.


Wouldn't go that far....


I don't doubt Hume's ability and intellect or the work he did in the North but this is simply wrong IMHO. Let's get real - the guy has not been murdered or executed for the cause has he?

So you have to have been murdered or executed to qualify as a great Irish people..........do one will you.

I think Mary Robinson should definitely be in the top 5. She may not be in the spotlight a lot these days but she's still out there trying to make a difference, and has done so much work at a global level

I'm no expert on Economics, but was Michael Collins really the finest Economic brain of the last century? :eek2:

And Military brain too?

No he really was not, Odlum is talking bullshit

Well he dispersed and hid the independence loans - he was an accountant. Ran the economy when the Free State was established. Lead the country through the civil war. Ran the IRB and the Free State army, negotiated with the most ruthless British conservatives ever assembled in Downing Street - Churchill etc..............all before the age of 31 when he was shot!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Collins_%28Irish_leader%29

Birkenhead said during the treaty negotiations

"Where was Micheal Collins during the Great War? He would have been worth 10 Generals to the British".......People like that don't say things like that unless they mean it. The facts speak for themselves.


An extraordinary (but ruthless) man by any stretch of the imagination.

They offered Mick O'Leary it but he refused citing his time will come.

He is Ireland's most influential businessman and the only Irish man on the list of the World's most respected CEOs.

Well he dispersed and hid the independence loans - he was an accountant. Ran the economy when the Free State was established. Lead the country through the civil war. Ran the IRB and the Free State army, negotiated with the most ruthless British conservatives ever assembled in Downing Street - Churchill etc..............all before the age of 31 when he was shot!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Collins_%28Irish_leader%29

Birkenhead said during the treaty negotiations

"Where was Micheal Collins during the Great War? He would have been worth 10 Generals to the British".......People like that don't say things like that unless they mean it. The facts speak for themselves.


An extraordinary (but ruthless) man by any stretch of the imagination.


So??

Are you trying to say that Michael Collins was a greater economist than Keynes, the father of modern macroeconomics??? What about Ludwig Von Mises or Friedrich Hayek of the Austrian School?


Best you stick to things you know something about. Michael Collins is by no stretch of the imagination the 'greatest economic brain of the 20th century'. What a bloody joke

So??

Are you trying to say that Michael Collins was a greater economist than Keynes, the father of modern macroeconomics??? What about Ludwig Von Mises or Friedrich Hayek of the Austrian School?


Best you stick to things you know something about. Michael Collins is by no stretch of the imagination the 'greatest economic brain of the 20th century'. What a bloody joke

I am obviously talking about from the Island of Ireland.:nuts:

All gobshites! Surprised Bertie didn't win it?

No Lord Kelvin? No CS Lewis? No Harry Ferguson? Frank Pantridge? Sir James Martin? John Dunlap? Van Morrison? Joey Dunlop? etc....

Seems to be a bit too southern-centric... :(

And no Duke of Wellington, the greatest soldier in history......

Hmmmmm

Well RTE is very racist



This is a fact!

RTE is shite! Funnily enough more Irish people probably watch BBC than Bog 1 AND Bog 2.

Don't get me started about TV3!

Well RTE is very racist



This is a fact!

True. Just look at what they've done to UTV.

We get the exact same adverts as is on cable say, but the ones we get are dubbed into a southern accent.

That's just hatred that is.....

That's just disgusting and utterly insensitive to the Northern Irish people.

Kelloggs are the worst culprits...

Wait to till Tesco Ireland take over Tesco in NI.

OR Extra Vision.

we get extra vision ads, but they're from Ireland so I'd expect irish accents....

Wait to till Tesco Ireland take over Tesco in NI.

Not gonna happen, would mean them having to pay taxes to the Irish treasury LOL


The very thought is too obscene to contemplate.

The point i'm trying to make is that kelloggs are dubbing an advert into a different accent!!! A different accent yes, but a different accent?? Do kelloggs believe that the irish couldn't stand the original english soundtrack???

I don't see what the problem is?

I think most Northern Irish people rather hear an Irish accent than an English one.

Not the point, is it? Why the need to spend money changing an ACCENT in the first place

So why do they change it from an American accent to an English accent?

Cause Americans are evil and sound thick.

Why not dub it into an ulster accent then?

For 1.5 million people? Then you'd have, Yorkshire people demanding it, west county people demanding it. Everyone would want it.

1.7 million......

Anyway, if you go to the trouble of dubbing it into an irish accent then why not.

1.7 million......

Anyway, if you go to the trouble of dubbing it into an irish accent then why not.

Indeed...and while we're at it we can have one version with people who say 'haitch' and one with 'aitch'....

Yeah :) and that Dublin accent where they put an "s" on the end of any word ending in "t"... :D

and call everything YOKE!

Yeah :) and that Dublin accent where they put an "s" on the end of any word ending in "t"... :D

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