View Full Version : Demolitions City: Buenos Aires
Luli Pop October 25th, 2010, 05:19 PM Buenos Aires was one of the 4 bigger cities in the world in the early XX century with Paris, London and New York.
Thanks to its Italian craft-manhood, french ideal, and a load of architects coming from Europe, BA was constructed with the higher standards of design and materials, and with as many styles as origins of its immigrants.
More info: http://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/10/travel/where-architecture-is-multilingual.html
Unhappily an architectural genocide is taking place since the beginning of the 60s. Not much remains, and still it's been demolished.
Buenos Aires is losing it's heritage and it's identity.
In this first post I will just show some pictures of demolished theaters, some lyric, some comedy, a couple with cinematographer.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-7.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-6.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-5.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-3.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-1.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitecturasau.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/TeatroParqueLezama.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/TeatroOdeon.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-16.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-15.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-14.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-13.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-12.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-11.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-10.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-9.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/juanisimoita/BuenosAiresdemolido-Arquitectura-8.jpg
wolfpaw October 27th, 2010, 02:38 AM Bizarre. What is their excuse for demolishing them? 'Progress'? 'Improvements'? Where I live it was usually 'road-widening' or 'we need more space for bigger shops'.
Makes me sick. >(
Unfortunately what the citizens want means absolutely nothing. We just have to live in the mess made by other people.
Luli Pop October 27th, 2010, 06:09 AM a couple of those demolitions where in the 80s, the excuse was always that they were "private property".
the problem is that demolitions continue in Buenos Aires.
last year World Monuments Fund put BA in its world heritage in danger.
since then thousands of heritage buildings have been and are being demolished.
wolfpaw October 27th, 2010, 04:40 PM a couple of those demolitions where in the 80s, the excuse was always that they were "private property".
the problem is that demolitions continue in Buenos Aires.
last year World Monuments Fund put BA in its world heritage in danger.
since then thousands of heritage buildings have been and are being demolished.
So who is behind the demolitions? The civic authorities? Or is it private companies? Either way, it should be stopped because once these buildings are gone they're usually gone forever. And I bet the replacements are visually disgusting!
Luli Pop October 27th, 2010, 07:46 PM government corruption that allows it, and unscrupulous real state developers.
Ian October 27th, 2010, 08:02 PM And those pics are only like 5%... keep posting luli!! Let's show the world how monkeys we are :lol:
Luli Pop October 27th, 2010, 08:31 PM Anchorena Palace, by Jules Dormal
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3ozyCevBgC0/TBVGUWtz8rI/AAAAAAAAAXQ/zedGKHCtH6k/s1600/z1z+(127).jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3ozyCevBgC0/TBVCZfErPLI/AAAAAAAAAXI/8Lv-k3YIKFM/s1600/13ortizbasualdo2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3ozyCevBgC0/TBVGwXIcLfI/AAAAAAAAAXY/Poez6SQM0Po/s1600/ortizzbasualdoey9+bog.jpg
StenvenBex November 1st, 2010, 02:49 PM same vietnam- saigon, my country :)
Luli Pop November 1st, 2010, 07:53 PM Some demolished heritage in BA (some recently) designed by genial italian architect Giovani Buschiazzo:
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/villaalvearaspx.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/mju.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/grggdsg.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Escanear0002.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/DSCN3940.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/DSCN3829.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/DSCN3823.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/DSCN1389.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/DSCN1365.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/DSCN1362.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/DSCN1324.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/dladtm331.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/caride.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/BOLSADECOMERCIO.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/b2.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/b1.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/amadeoygiusti.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/800px-Edificio_La_Inmobiliaria_1899.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/000035JAB.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/2jab.jpg
Botswana November 2nd, 2010, 06:32 AM Let me guess, they probably replaced them with horrid grey apartment buildings? :nuts:
chris_maiden November 3rd, 2010, 07:19 PM ^^ Probably :(
Luli Pop November 3rd, 2010, 07:43 PM surely!
The Cake On BBQ November 3rd, 2010, 07:53 PM I've seen the thread about demolitions in Buenos Aires in Arg. forum and it really frustrated me! Doesn't Buenos Airites protest, sue people who do this? I mean, this is just beyond an architectural genocide :ohno:
missioneiro November 3rd, 2010, 08:30 PM Well... it's very bad, but... the worst demolitions that took place on the world I think was on Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, considered the Tropical Paris in the early XX century now has ***NOTHING*** left from its heritage. Amazing buildings have been replaced by 70's boxes with 30 floors... it's a big shame...
Buenos Aires citizens must fight because its heritage is vast and really impressive!
cameronpaul November 3rd, 2010, 09:12 PM Right about Rio, there are still some important late19th/early 20th buildings in the city centre, but the destruction in the 60's and 70's was unbelievable.
Interestingly, because of these losses they are now keen to keep what is still there and instead of demolition many of the older buildings are being restored.
Buenos Aires seems to be way out of step with most civilized countries where heritage is now deemed important - in most European cities it is very difficult to demolish important buildings from the past and this applies to Australia, Canada and even to a lesser extent the U.S.A. where greed still sometimes wins out,but not always, as it did in the 60's 70s and 80's. San Francisco led the way in preservation in the U.S. and other cities have since followed.
sebvill November 3rd, 2010, 09:55 PM What happen in many Latin American cities in the XXth century like Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo is repulsive!
Bizarre. What is their excuse for demolishing them? 'Progress'? 'Improvements'? Where I live it was usually 'road-widening' or 'we need more space for bigger shops'.
.
I think the first big demolition that took place in Buenos Aires was with the construction of the 9 de Julio Avenue that began in 1912. This is the Worlds widest avenue and was only completed in the late 40´s, however for its construction they destroyed dozens of blocks of good architecture.
seba_bolso November 3rd, 2010, 11:22 PM It's depressing, I think most of the demolition took place in the 60s and 70s with the boom of ugly apartment buildings and commies.
I often hear of protest groups against demolitions in the city, how much did they acomplish? I know some buildings and areas are now considered "heritage of the city" and they can't be demolished, but I think most areas still need protection against this crime and we need a stronger legislation too.
Luli Pop November 4th, 2010, 04:25 AM What happen in many Latin American cities in the XXth century like Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo is repulsive!
I think the first big demolition that took place in Buenos Aires was with the construction of the 9 de Julio Avenue that began in 1912. This is the Worlds widest avenue and was only completed in the late 40´s, however for its construction they destroyed dozens of blocks of good architecture.
the extremes of 9 de Julio where finished in the 80/90s, we are talking about kilometers of demolitions. also for the construction of and elevated highway 11 km long, historical neighbourhoods were demolished; the original plan was to build 7 of these highways all around the city.
Rio demolished much much much less than BA, the difference is that Rio demolished almost EVERYTHING.
BA was called the Paris of America in the 20s, not now.
Just the amount of threaters demolished in BA is scandalous.
For instance, all Plaza de Mayo buildings where demolished but the cathedral. they even started demolition of Casa Rosada but it was later stopped and now 25% of it lacks.
Av de Mayo is the only almost complete street remainning. Callao Av was fully demolished. it first had 3 stories french "hotel particuliers", then it was all demolished and now there are big buildings.
in Avenida Alvear there where at least 25 residential real palaces, only 4 remain.
Belgrano had a hundred or more palaces and hotels particuliers in several styles but mostly french and german/anglonormadian; remaining maybe 4.
even the Cabildo was demolished but then reconstructed.
another difference is that BA demolished firstly, so people that don't know the history of heritage see a building from the early 40s or 30s and think it was the first building in that place; but truly there was a palace, hotel particulier o little heritage house.
all avenues have been widden, even the central ones, and thousands of big, huge, small buildings have been demolished.
I think the situation can only be compared with NY in the 30s.
Luli Pop November 4th, 2010, 11:47 PM in Av de Mayo:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/825/img0002yb6fg9.jpg
the one in the corner:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/25demayo3.jpg?t=1183242806
the one under the planes nose:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/avdemayoypiedras.jpg
two:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/27demayo5.jpg?t=1183242915
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/28demayo6.jpg?t=1183242950
the three have been demolished:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/7london.jpg?t=1183242632
two ugly "modernisations"
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/3Chile1.jpg?t=1183243118
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/4chile.jpg?t=1183243129
the 2 on the left:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/avycerr2.jpg
fire + demolition:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/teatroav2.jpg
there are lots more of Av. de Mayo...
one corner in Callao
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8608/santafecallao2pq2.jpg
Hotel particulier where King of Spain stayed when in BA:
http://www.jhistoricadelpilar.com.ar/imagenes/29.jpg
This is also in Callao, you must put atention cause the pic is too small. see behind the two big buildings lots and lots of 3 o 4 stories hotels particuliers. it was 1,5km like that, side by side petits hotels and hotels particulier; most french style some italian ALL DEMOLISHED from the 60s till today:
http://www.esto.es/tango/BBAA/callao.jpg
another corner in Corrientes
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7200/floridacorrientesni5.jpg
all the buildings right side of the "greek" one:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/31escuelaroca.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/32escuelaroca3.jpg?t=1183242707
some "hotels patirculiers" demolished:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/33pellegrini.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/34pellegrini3.jpg?t=1183242730
all ornaments and sculptures dissapeared:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/IMG_0008.jpg?t=1183242967
in Florida Street (almost all Florida Street was demolished)
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9844/jockrt0.jpg
the small one:
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/3117/ateatroxb2.jpg
all but the big one (the French style one at the end of the street was a private residence, then the the bombed Israeli Embassy in Arroyo-Alvear, see the second pic):
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7118/buenosairesvi2.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/avarroyo910.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/avarroyo9101.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/avarroyo9102.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/avarroyo9103.jpg
http://www.arquimaster.com.ar/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/demolicion.jpg
In Avenida Alvear:
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/176/alvear7ox5.jpg
http://www.jhistoricadelpilar.com.ar/imagenes/27.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/DEBARY.jpg
Everything demolished but the last on the right
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/627/alvear8xv9.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2003/avalvearyz7.jpg
All of them but the one in the middle and the one with white umbrellas
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7007/alvear4jd8.jpg
All of them demolished, those where houses, not appartments:
http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/9144/palaciodose3qi.jpg
All of them demolished but the big one:
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1336/alvear18oj8.jpg
7 palaces demolished on Avenida Alvear, one next to the other:
http://www.jhistoricadelpilar.com.ar/imagenes/22.jpg
http://htmlimg2.scribdassets.com/9q5w1mny8nxl6i/images/17-60608c8940/000.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/dose.jpg[/IMG]
former president's residence:
http://www.jhistoricadelpilar.com.ar/imagenes/28.jpg
this was tipical BA in Argentina's Belle Epoque, almost everything has been/is been demolished:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6350/pareda134un6.jpg
some pics from SCC, others from Machado and Perlin
chris_maiden November 5th, 2010, 06:05 AM ^^ Buenos Aires is still today a beautiful city, but there is no doubt that much was lost in those years, we had similar architectural heritage in terms of quantity of cities like London, today the number is much lower. For this reason, we must protect all of the architectural heritage that the city still maintains, that certainly is something, complain about what the city lost is not helpful, we must think about protecting all the heritage that is still in the city.
I don't like this thread Luli, is very sad and disappointing..:(
Botswana November 5th, 2010, 06:24 AM How awful. :ohno: Almost as bad as the Russians.
chris_maiden November 5th, 2010, 07:31 AM ^^ I didn't know that some Russia heritage had been demolished.
In Canada there was also demolitions?
Luli Pop November 5th, 2010, 03:42 PM I quote myself so last pics come to last page
in Av de Mayo:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/825/img0002yb6fg9.jpg
the one in the corner:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/25demayo3.jpg?t=1183242806
the one under the planes nose:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/avdemayoypiedras.jpg
two:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/27demayo5.jpg?t=1183242915
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/28demayo6.jpg?t=1183242950
the three have been demolished:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/7london.jpg?t=1183242632
two ugly "modernisations"
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/3Chile1.jpg?t=1183243118
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/4chile.jpg?t=1183243129
the 2 on the left:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/avycerr2.jpg
fire + demolition:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/teatroav2.jpg
there are lots more of Av. de Mayo...
one corner in Callao
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8608/santafecallao2pq2.jpg
Hotel particulier where King of Spain stayed when in BA:
http://www.jhistoricadelpilar.com.ar/imagenes/29.jpg
This is also in Callao, you must put atention cause the pic is too small. see behind the two big buildings lots and lots of 3 o 4 stories hotels particuliers. it was 1,5km like that, side by side petits hotels and hotels particulier; most french style some italian ALL DEMOLISHED from the 60s till today:
http://www.esto.es/tango/BBAA/callao.jpg
another corner in Corrientes
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7200/floridacorrientesni5.jpg
all the buildings right side of the "greek" one:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/31escuelaroca.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/32escuelaroca3.jpg?t=1183242707
some "hotels patirculiers" demolished:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/33pellegrini.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/34pellegrini3.jpg?t=1183242730
all ornaments and sculptures dissapeared:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/IMG_0008.jpg?t=1183242967
in Florida Street (almost all Florida Street was demolished)
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9844/jockrt0.jpg
the small one:
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/3117/ateatroxb2.jpg
all but the big one (the French style one at the end of the street was a private residence, then the the bombed Israeli Embassy in Arroyo-Alvear, see the second pic):
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7118/buenosairesvi2.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/avarroyo910.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/avarroyo9101.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/avarroyo9102.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/avarroyo9103.jpg
http://www.arquimaster.com.ar/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/demolicion.jpg
In Avenida Alvear:
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/176/alvear7ox5.jpg
http://www.jhistoricadelpilar.com.ar/imagenes/27.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/DEBARY.jpg
Everything demolished but the last on the right
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/627/alvear8xv9.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/2003/avalvearyz7.jpg
All of them but the one in the middle and the one with white umbrellas
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7007/alvear4jd8.jpg
All of them demolished, those where houses, not appartments:
http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/9144/palaciodose3qi.jpg
All of them demolished but the big one:
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1336/alvear18oj8.jpg
7 palaces demolished on Avenida Alvear, one next to the other:
http://www.jhistoricadelpilar.com.ar/imagenes/22.jpg
http://htmlimg2.scribdassets.com/9q5w1mny8nxl6i/images/17-60608c8940/000.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/dose.jpg[/IMG]
former president's residence:
http://www.jhistoricadelpilar.com.ar/imagenes/28.jpg
this was tipical BA in Argentina's Belle Epoque, almost everything has been/is been demolished:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6350/pareda134un6.jpg
some pics from SCC, others from Machado and Perlin
Botswana November 5th, 2010, 05:26 PM ^^ I didn't know that some Russia heritage had been demolished.
In Canada there was also demolitions?
Yes. In Canada we destroy everything old and build ugly shopping malls and suburbs. At least BA has lots of historic architecture still intact. Cities like Toronto and any city in the prairies is filled with brutalist abominations and hideous suburbs that aren't planned correctly. Old Toronto was very beautiful, and had a lot of historic architecture, but now it's all glass and commie blocks.
Only Quebec seems to be interested in preserving its heritage.
chris_maiden November 5th, 2010, 11:09 PM ^^ Yes, unfortunately when a heritage building is demolished is very difficult to re-up it again, because today very few architects are engaged in such work, which carry considerable time and effort, for this reason, we must protect all the architectural heritage that still exists in our cities, a city without history is a city without an identity and culture.
Greetings.
URBANITY REPORTS November 13th, 2010, 06:44 PM What a shame.
URBANITY REPORTS November 13th, 2010, 06:47 PM a city without history is a city without an identity and culture.
True
koolkid January 8th, 2011, 03:48 AM I think the situation can only be compared with NY in the 30s.
Exactly! I believe NY has demolished probably twice as much as Buenos Aires. With every boom came a wave of massive demolitions. First in the 30's and then in the 60's and very recently in the last decade (2000-2008). This city has demolished entire neighborhoods and yet we still have tons of our historic architecture left. It's sad really because New York probably had more architectural gems than paris or london.
MoreOrLess January 8th, 2011, 06:13 AM Exactly! I believe NY has demolished probably twice as much as Buenos Aires. With every boom came a wave of massive demolitions. First in the 30's and then in the 60's and very recently in the last decade (2000-2008). This city has demolished entire neighborhoods and yet we still have tons of our historic architecture left. It's sad really because New York probably had more architectural gems than paris or london.
Whats been in NY's favour though is that the city has been massively rich thoughout that time, even with the great depression you saw alot of grand building in the 30's that was arguebley superior to what it replaced.
BA's on the other hand had a period as one of the richest cities in the world in the late 19th/early 20th century then declined massively, theres not been the money around to build quality since then.
koolkid January 8th, 2011, 08:49 AM That is true. I'd take the ESB over the old Waldorf Astoria any day(as beautiful as it was). Does Buenos Aires not have something similar to a Landmark Preservation Commission? It sucks to see such beautiful architecture thrown out in favor of complete pos. Here we have entire districts, besides buildings, that are protected from modifications/ the wrecking ball. Sure, the LPC doesn't save every building (e.g Drake hotel, for which they're often criticized) but they still manage to protect thousands of buildings across the 5 boroughs.
Wunderknabe January 22nd, 2011, 03:05 AM It was really beautiful back then. But I guess smaller 2-5 storey buildings are just not as profitable as bigger modern ones, so they got demolished and replaced.
Buenos Aires was one of the 4 bigger cities in the world in the early XX century with Paris, London and New York.
Just to correct this. Buenos Aires had ~1,1 mio in 1910
1910
London 7.100.000
New York 4.766.883
Paris 4.400.000
Chicago 2.185.283
Vienna 2.083.630
Berlin 2.071.257
St. Petersburg 1.962.000
Ribarca January 22nd, 2011, 04:27 AM Very sad to see they put so many generic buildings in place of those older structures.
In Hong Kong it's 10 times worse. There are hardly any older buildings left. The problem I feel arises from the fact that these cities are very young and have no old city center and old architecture. Young cities always reinvent themselves.
A l e x January 24th, 2011, 03:38 PM This is sad. But not much different from what happened in almost all american cities (and sometimes keeps on happening).
Even old Europe has been brutalized almost with the same harshness, as if the war didn't wipe out enough... see Brussels.
Lenela February 2nd, 2011, 12:08 PM I visited Buenos Aires and I was delighted by the amazing XIXth and early XXth century architecture, reminding me Paris or Madrid! But I didn't know so glorious buildings and streets was entierly demolished, even if it's not surprising given that the countless years of dictatorship the Argentina knew and still knows....
Fortunately this city - for me - keeps the top rank of the most beautiful city in the Latinamerican world!
Luli Pop February 7th, 2011, 09:22 PM It was really beautiful back then. But I guess smaller 2-5 storey buildings are just not as profitable as bigger modern ones, so they got demolished and replaced.
Just to correct this. Buenos Aires had ~1,1 mio in 1910
1910
London 7.100.000
New York 4.766.883
Paris 4.400.000
Chicago 2.185.283
Vienna 2.083.630
Berlin 2.071.257
St. Petersburg 1.962.000
good quality buildings construction in BA lasted till 1945.
at that time BA was much bigger than 1.1 million and much more important: it was rich and with very qualified italian artisans and french, german and italian architects.
BA has the same population since 1945
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Population_of_Buenos_Aires_1740-2010.png
Great BA growth was huge at that time but it already existed in 1920 cause as well as Great London, Great BA is formed by preexistent neighbouring towns and cities, some of them where quite big already.
I can't estimate how big was it population, but if you travel around the suburbs is easy to see that most of them were built before 1945 with lots of heritage still remaining.
Luli Pop February 8th, 2011, 10:30 PM Some demolished buildings designed by marvelous architect A. Christophersen in BA.
Pics from genial blog http://arquitecto-christophersen.blogspot.com/ by Fabio Perlin (where you can see some other buildings that hadn't been demolished)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Christophersen
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/Scan0038.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/Scan0037.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/Scan0036.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/ResidenciadeSotoyCalvoenBsAs.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/residenciadeFranciscoCorrientes783.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/jovkey1910.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/jokeyy1910.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/jokeybiblio1910.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/jokey1910.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/jok2.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/jockeyclubatbuenosaires.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/hhh.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/ACSINDATOS2.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/fabio-imagenes103.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/Escanear0007.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/Escanear0005.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/DSCN1471.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/DSCN0325.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/DSCN0323.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/DSCN0321.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/DSCN0320.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/DSCN0319.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/DSCN0318.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/DSCN0317.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/AC-1.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/ac1.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/ABIIACHRISTOPZAPIOLAYJURAMENTO.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/ABIIACHRISTOLORETY11DESETIEMBRE.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/ABIIACHRISTOESMERALDA1279.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/aa.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/ACHRISTSINDATOS.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/ac.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/ACSINDATOS.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/ACPALACIODEVOTO.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/2222222.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/patrimonioargentino/Christophersen/1269.jpg
there are no pics of these hotels particuliers and petits hotels also designed by him and demolished in BA:
1 Viamonte 726.Casa de renta.Flia.Mayol (1895)
2 Av.Callao1332.Vivienda particular.Vicente Peralta Ramos(1896)
3 Av.Santa Fe 1026.Viv.Hortensio Mendez (1898)(trazado Av.9 de Julio)
4 Av.Callao 1218.Petit Hotel Samuel Rossetti (1898)
5 Marcelo T.de Alvear 682.Hotel Tornquist (1899)
6 Av.Santa Fe 950.Hotel Santamarina
7 Esmeralda 1279.Vivienda particular para Carlos Madero
8 Juncal 1044.Hotel para Alejandro Shaw (1901) (trazado Av.9 de Julio)
9 Tucuman 450.Hotel Baròn A.De Marchi (1903)
10 Rodriguez Peña 1644.Hotel Christophersen (1903)
11 Viamonte 1405. Hotel Antonio Dellepiane (1905)
12 Av.Alvear 126. Hotel Alfredo Fernandez (1905)
13 Av.Quintana 71.Hotel Flia.Gomez (1906)
14 Arenales 115. Viv.Domingo Acuña
15 Av.Cordoba 624.Petit Hotel para Alberto Leloir
16 Suipacha 1258.Petit Hotel para Hector Cobo (1909)
17 Av.Corrientes 783.Casa de renta Soto y Calvo (1910)
18 11 de Septiembre y Virrey Loreto.Casa Alberto Williams
19 Suipacha y Juncal. Casa Unzuè de Cobo
20 Balcarce 548.Deposito Carlos Dupont (1930)
21 Gral.Peròn 842/56.Laboratorio y oficinas C. Dupont
beren_me March 3rd, 2011, 09:39 AM Not demolished, but slightly changed.Buenos Aires in the November 1939 issue of National Geographic:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_jRDkdPWpQLU/TW9SvGlWFZI/AAAAAAAAAYo/2fW3zExMbgE/s800/untitled1.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_jRDkdPWpQLU/TW9SvKKhqZI/AAAAAAAAAYs/txUGq1TComs/untitled2.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_jRDkdPWpQLU/TW9S6WeeazI/AAAAAAAAAY4/zmBBGTQYcJo/untitled3.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_jRDkdPWpQLU/TW9S3jqDINI/AAAAAAAAAY0/2uY7juGX6m0/untitled4.jpg
beren_me March 3rd, 2011, 09:40 AM https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_jRDkdPWpQLU/TW9S29S8U3I/AAAAAAAAAYw/31oFbglQqIA/untitled5.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_jRDkdPWpQLU/TW9TCJeZ6pI/AAAAAAAAAZE/Mdl2KtqWD6E/untitled6.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_jRDkdPWpQLU/TW9TBWMdWlI/AAAAAAAAAZA/DemBLz0fgkM/untitled7.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_jRDkdPWpQLU/TW9SuyXsLmI/AAAAAAAAAYk/GhqhWem08ZE/untitled8.jpg
seba_bolso March 13th, 2011, 06:56 AM This is so sad! :ohno:
Urbanista1 March 13th, 2011, 07:02 AM This is very sad, but I still thought BA was beautiful last time I was there. This historic architecture is very expensive to maintain and many developers look for excuses to demolish these masterpieces and replace them with bland modern structures.
Maximiliano Souza March 13th, 2011, 07:05 AM ^^^^^^ WOWWWW..i never see this pictures, i like more the old congress plaza!!..:D
Leandrix SSC April 17th, 2011, 08:46 AM :(!
patrimonio arquitectonico demolido
Otro edificio a la piqueta
Esta vez le toca al petit hotel de Callao 924, una obra de Luis Martín que comenzó a demolerse el jueves, víctima del vacío legal y la indiferencia oficial que permite negocios a costa del patrimonio.
http://www.pagina12.com.ar/fotos/m2/20070707/notas_m/luis_martin.jpg
Ayer
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/avdemayoypiedras.jpg
Hoy
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/avdemayoypiedras2.jpg
Viamonte 641
(entre Florida y Maipú):
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4754/120256371001220776sl5.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/Imagen041.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7868/dsc06383tr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7364/dsc06388cq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/628/54776227ge8.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2917/17036647gv4.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6082/38724150rw2.jpg
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/733/77591847qo3.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9831/91975644ed2.jpg
Teto, como soy masoquista, volví con la cámara para fotografiarlo:
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii89/dvd_stuff/IMG_0042Medium.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii89/dvd_stuff/IMG_0045Medium.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii89/dvd_stuff/IMG_0043Medium.jpg
La buena noticia es que no eran 4 casas, eran 3, se salvó el kiosko y la casa de al lado.
¿Se acuerdan del petit de Maipú y Paraguay?
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/1c/31/26/victory-hotel-b-aires.jpg
Bueno, síganse acordando.
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb139/hennekens/Imagen456.jpg
Gerba!! encontre una foto del petit de araoz y Guatemala, igualmente alpedo, ayer pase y ya lo demolieron
http://bp0.blogger.com/_H01fh6CfgHs/SAZs247lV5I/AAAAAAAACnc/QJrL3ms9ZWE/s320/guatemala+4320.jpg
Cramer, pase por el edificio que habias posteado 2 pag. atras (las Heras y Ugarteche) y tenias razon es otro, ese y uno igual pero de la vereda del frente ya los demolieron
Uuuh matu, gracias por la pag
Esta demolicion me destrozo el alma
http://bp0.blogger.com/_H01fh6CfgHs/R_VN1PZlzuI/AAAAAAAAB_g/Q_NRJIR-YAQ/s320/Lavalle+2688.jpg
http://bp3.blogger.com/_H01fh6CfgHs/R_VO7_ZlzvI/AAAAAAAAB_o/1gftsimQKr4/s200/lavalle+2678+2.jpg
desde el año pasado tenia la duda sobre que garcha habia en demolido en Av. Libertador, me imprecionaba porque era algo de 9 pisos, y bueno aca la culpable de mi falta de sueño
http://bp1.blogger.com/_H01fh6CfgHs/R_P8T_ZlzVI/AAAAAAAAB8U/F14SCfH9y5Y/s320/escanear0002.jpg
Av Belgrano 2900 Hospital Español Obra de J. Garcia Nuñez (60% demolido)
http://bp0.blogger.com/_H01fh6CfgHs/R-83vvZlzFI/AAAAAAAAB6U/Ta5Xs117Vpc/s320/hospital+espa%C3%B1ol+01.jpg
http://bp2.blogger.com/_H01fh6CfgHs/R-835PZlzGI/AAAAAAAAB6c/MJbBH8NVNPs/s320/hospital+espa%C3%B1ol+02.jpg
Que locura esta última!!! igualmente no se porque me sigo impresionando
No será el ex edificio de Mercedes Benz? ese es el único edificio grande que me acuerde que hayan demolido por Libertador
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6656/libertador2424lotetp8.jpg
Aca en la foto de Cramer se ve cuando aún estab en pie, es el rojo
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1671/10011230wf.jpg
Me acuerdo que un día pasé con el auto, cuando ví el hueco no lo podía creer, no entendía como cazzo habían hecho para comprarse el edificio entero y demolerlo, después me di cuenta que era el edificio de MB.
BUENOS AIRES - Libertador 2424 / Ruggieri 3045 (MRA y Asoc.) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=479919)
Me gusta esta foto que saqué hace un tiempo, no salió linda pero representa la situación bastante bien.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7559/fadu018wi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Sobre la misma cuadra sobrevive esta casona estilo Tudor que deja imaginar lo que alguna vez fué la zona, antes que se le entregase el patrimonio de la ciduad a intereses especulativos.
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5594/fadu019zd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
LOS DUEÑOS DE LAS PROPIEDADES ESTABAN OBLIGADOS
A CONSERVAR AL MENOS LAS FACHADAS
[B]Demolieron ilegalmente
dos edificios del Casco Histórico
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/05/15/fotos/1596658-1.jpg
[CENTER]http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/05/15/fotos/1596658-2.jpg
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/05/15/laciudad/h-01672269.htm
Ubicada en la calle CHILE entre SALTA Y SANTIAGO DEL ESTERO, en frente de la UADE, se esta tirando abajo TODA LA CUADRA , TODO A LA PIQUETA Y NO PASA NADA, todo en nombre del progreso, las imagenes hablan por si solas. :ohno:
Toda una cuadra.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7877/0406081559rw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7877/0406081559rw6.5a7e012bc9.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=169&i=0406081559rw6.jpg)
ya bajaron las dos primeras casas semi coloniales donde se ve el claro, y ahora siguen con estas de estilo clasico.
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7057/0406081600fb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7057/0406081600fb2.68d2b0ef44.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=387&i=0406081600fb2.jpg)
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7278/0406081601ng8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7278/0406081601ng8.5d65463ed6.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=169&i=0406081601ng8.jpg)
Mientras que todavía no se puede instrumentar una ley que protega efectivamente unos pocos inmuebles patrimoniales en el centro
de la ciudad... las inmobiliarias se apuran para devorar lo que queda en los barrios.
Uno de los conjuntos sobrevivientes más hermosos de Flores, sobre la calle Camacuá... se cuentan 3 inmuebles en venta
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http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8049/panoramatp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Sobre mitad de cuadra, esta casona de ventanas ojivales.
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/8912/imagen001my1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
:(
Luli Pop May 17th, 2011, 11:33 PM everything demolished:
http://miradaatenta.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/demolicion-9-de-julio.jpg
chalet Gelosi by Olivari en Martinez:
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/045/3/b/Chalet_Gelosi_by_Bre_ssan.jpg
Quinta Yapeyu, Ramos Mejia:
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/038/1/4/quinta_yapeyu_by_bre_ssan-d392gcz.jpg
Palacio San Jacinto, en Carabelas de Saturnino Unzue, demolido:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a_-SCl6ROP4/TS3kCOQJM_I/AAAAAAAAAE4/8NPNFOEX8Ik/s1600/Palacio+San+Jacinto+Frente.jpg
lo que queda de la torre de la capilla del palacio:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a_-SCl6ROP4/TSw5PvdNB_I/AAAAAAAAAEs/PH864yBkBY0/s1600/DSC00377.JPG
En este palacete en Alvear y Libertad, vivia Saturnino Unzue de Alvear antes de mudarse al que le diseñara Sergent sobre Cerrito y que se demolio enfermizamente para hacer la 9 de Julio.
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/071/0/3/saturnino_unzue__s_house_by_bre_ssan-d3biibx.jpg
Casa donde vivia Maria Unzue de Alvear en Alvear y Libertad (las dos cupulas que se ven detras son el actual Jockey antes de que tuviera a su gemelo posteriormente demolido)
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/072/c/b/maria_unzue_de_alvear_house_by_bre_ssan-d3bljl7.jpg
Palacio Pereyra Iraola, demolido por el estado nacional para construir la cancilleria nueva con creacion de falsa ruina incluida y placa que dice "aca estaba el palacio"):
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/071/7/6/pereyra_iraola_palace_by_bre_ssan-d3bik3c.jpg
Casa de renta de la flia Frechou en Ugarteche y Libertador donde se puede ver como era la seguidilla de petits hotels de Libertador antes de las demoliciones:
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/045/8/8/Mignaquy_House_Apartments_by_Bre_ssan.jpg
MARIVS IMPERATOR May 19th, 2011, 01:10 PM Can anyone stop these demolitions? Valuate your architectural heritage!
preservarbuenosaires September 10th, 2011, 07:04 PM Gorostiaga 2339:
Before
http://fotos.usig.buenosaires.gob.ar//getFoto?smp=23-017-034&i=4&w=500&h=375
http://fotos.usig.buenosaires.gob.ar//getFoto?smp=23-017-034&i=3&w=550&h=413
After:
http://fotos.usig.buenosaires.gob.ar//getFoto?smp=23-017-034&i=0&w=550&h=413
Before, Gorostiaga 2337:
http://fotos.usig.buenosaires.gob.ar//getFoto?smp=23-017-035&i=3&w=500&h=375
en 2003:
http://fotos.usig.buenosaires.gob.ar//getFoto?smp=23-017-035&i=2&w=550&h=413
After:
http://fotos.usig.buenosaires.gob.ar//getFoto?smp=23-017-035&i=0&w=550&h=413
Gorostiaga 2329 (soon to be demolished):
http://fotos.usig.buenosaires.gob.ar//getFoto?smp=23-017-036&i=2&w=500&h=375
2003: http://fotos.usig.buenosaires.gob.ar//getFoto?smp=23-017-036&i=1&w=550&h=413
chiccosilva2009 September 10th, 2011, 08:50 PM Buenos Aires is a great city. I have long wanted to visit her, but maybe one day I can take my own pictures so I can analyze the architecture from my own look!
Dicas de passagens aéreas baratas de madrugada (http://info-dicass.blogspot.com)
preservarbuenosaires September 11th, 2011, 03:26 PM This beauty (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_prmcXkJCWO4/RqpsNr3ov8I/AAAAAAAAAJQ/jBTy4eEZ1zo/s1600-h/100_0467.JPG) was demolished ilegally a couple years ago.
preservarbuenosaires September 18th, 2011, 05:12 AM More demolished beauties!
La CATE
http://i56.tinypic.com/or3xuo.jpg
Juncal 1422
http://i54.tinypic.com/2v3mxbs.jpg
Paraná 860
http://i56.tinypic.com/5mafrq.jpg
Sobre Pacheco de Melo
http://i56.tinypic.com/o0tfh4.jpg
El Teatro Coliseo Argentino
http://i56.tinypic.com/5ntd04.jpg
Rodríguez Peña 1870
http://i56.tinypic.com/123p2x5.jpg
preservarbuenosaires September 19th, 2011, 05:21 PM Ayer:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iHd8M-wydoI/Ta2-h-0l49I/AAAAAAAAJe8/MnChpRRDqUc/s1600/Lanus.JPG
Hoy:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ujj0JkhNPhs/Tmy-zzSUBxI/AAAAAAAAGMk/V-4mCBvn9YM/s1600/getFoto.jpg
preservarbuenosaires September 27th, 2011, 04:41 PM Demolished for a parking lot at open space (Esmeralda 904):
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jJVY34dM84c/ThKoHJpbsGI/AAAAAAAAaEw/OWh0OmJthhc/s1600/DSCN4954-1.JPG
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