Libyan Railways is building a high speed railway between Benghazi and Tripoli. The project is divided into 2 in Sirte. Tripoli - Sirte is being build by China Railways and Sirt - Benghazi by Russian Railways. I believe a topic for this big project should be listed in this forum.

No article, no picture, no map, what a poor information !^^

We talked about in moroccan forum OUJDA - FEZ > TGV MAGHREB | High-Speed Rail (LGV) | 328 km (TRIPOLI + 2672 km) | 320 km/h | #Project (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=751044) thread.
BORDER LINKS FROM LIBYA

Posted on 21 September 2010

Libya is optimistic that the new standard gauge line currently under construction from Benghazi to the country’s western border at Rass Ajder will be extended eventually to connect with Société Nationale des Chemins de Fer Tunisiens (SNCFT – the Tunisian National Railways). This would entail building some 170km of route inside Tunisia to reach the present railhead at Gabes. Unfortunately the existing 422km line from Gabes to the capital – Tunis – is metre gauge, so through services will not be possible. Some of the 268km Tunis-Sfax section has been realigned and the 3-hour expresses are reputedly the fastest metre gauge trains in the world.

On Libya’s east, a 350km extension of the new standard gauge line is planned to Tobruk from Benghazi. Beyond Tobruk, the formation of a long abandoned (World War II) standard gauge railway extends some 140km to Egypt’s western border at El Soloum, endpoint of a 560km line from Cairo

http://www.railwaysafrica.com/blog/2010/09/border-links-from-libya/

On va finir avec un HST Casa-Tripoli voir Le Caire.

Le problème c'est le réseau tunisien qui est en voie métrique. Mais Tunis-Sfax est desservi par le train métrique le plus rapide du monde. ^^

and

ANSALDO TO SIGNAL LIBYA

Posted on 20 August 2010

A consortium of Finmeccanica companies Ansaldo STS and Selex Communications has received a €247 million contract from Russian Railways subsidiary Zarubezhstroyteknologiya to provide signalling, automation, telecommunications, power supply, security, and ticketing systems for Libya’s 551km Surt-Benghazi line.

Ansaldo STS leads the consortium with an 81.8% share, which equates to around €202 million, and includes the installation of the European Rail Traffic Management System (ERTMS), interlockings, trackside equipment, the control centre, and power supplies. The work covered by the contract will take around three years to complete.

The 551km Surt – Benghazi section is the first phase of a line that will stretch along the length of Libya’s Mediterranean coast from Tunisia to Egypt. The line will initially use diesel locomotives operating at up to 160km/h, although it will later switch to electric traction with a maximum operating speed of 250km/h. China Railway Construction is building the adjoining 352km Surt-Misratah-Al Khums section and the 172km western stretch of the line between Tripoli and the Tunisian border at Ras Adjir.

Last year Ansaldo STS was awarded the signalling, telecommunications, and power supply contract for both sections, as well as the 992km inland branch from Al Hishah to Waddan and Sabha
http://www.railwaysafrica.com/blog/2010/08/ansaldo-to-signal-libya/

Phase 1 : train diesel à 160 km/h
Phase 2 : électrification et passage à 250km/h avec le système ERMTS déjà installé.

FIRST 14KM OF LINE IN LIBYA

Posted on 26 March 2010

Rossiiskie Zheleznie Dorogi (RZhD – the Russian State Railway), which is building the new railway along Libya’s Mediterranean coast, has announced the completion of the first 14km. President Vladimir Yakunin visited the construction sites on 14 March where he met Libyan Railways chairman Said Mohammed Rashid. The €2·2 billion contract, signed in April 2008, currently employs 438 people on construction work, which is expected to take four years. In all, it is expected that a total of 3,500 local and Russian workers will help build the line.

Initially trains are to run at 160km/h, but the double track alignment makes provision for electrification, to allow running at 250km/h eventually. According to RZD the project includes the building of 1,000 structures, including 30 rail and 23 road bridges, and six major and 24 minor stations.
The China Railway Construction Corporation holds separate contracts in Libya, covering the 625km of route westwards from Surt to Al Khums, Tripoli and Ras Ejder on the Tunisian border, and an 800km line southwards from Misratah to iron ore deposits inland near Sabha.

http://www.railwaysafrica.com/blog/2010/03/first-14km-of-line-in-libya/

Les chinois, les russes et les italiens (matériel roulant) ont tous raflés.


Libyan Railways is building a high speed railway between Benghazi and Tripoli. The project is divided into 2 in Sirte. Tripoli - Sirte is being build by China Railways and Sirt - Benghazi by Russian Railways. I believe a topic for this big project should be listed in this forum.

:nono:

Phase 1, Lybia is building : diesel train at 160 km/h
Phase 2 , Lybia will built : electrification and passage to 250km/h with ERMTS installed on phae 1.
Phase 3, Lybia will built : extension to Tunisia with a IUC gauge (Tunisia is narrow gauge)
Phase 4, Lybia will built : extension to East and then to Egypt.

LIBYA’S NEW RAILWAY

Posted on 13 September 2010

Libya is the only country in North Africa without a railway. “I believe a railway that links the Arab nation from Egypt until it reaches Morocco is more important than water supplies to a city or a region,” Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi said in a 1993 speech.

Construction began in 2008 on lines running east to west along the country’s Mediterranean coast and south to Sabha, in the centre of the country. Outside Tripoli, a sleek model train sits on newly constructed tracks. Inside, in first class, white sofas line the cabin. Business class has shiny blue chairs arranged around tables.

The government says the completed network will employ more than 1,000 Libyan technicians. One of these is Shukri al-Arab, who studied electrical engineering in Yugoslavia.
http://www.railwaysafrica.com/blog/2010/09/border-links-from-libya/

The project Tripoli-Sirte is no part of Transmaghreb HST Network.

TGVM : Trains à Grande Vitesse Maghrebin



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http://www.ctfm.org.dz/Fr-TGVM.htm

For information, Lybia is member of : CFTM

Comité des Transports Ferroviaires Maghrébin (CTFM)


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Aujourd'hui pour faire Casablanca-Tunis il ne faut ni 8h, ni 25h, ni 30h. La seule alternative c'est l'avion.

http://www.ctfm.org.dz/Presentation.htm

ANSALDO TO SIGNAL LIBYA

Posted on 20 August 2010

A consortium of Finmeccanica companies Ansaldo STS and Selex Communications has received a €247 million contract from Russian Railways subsidiary Zarubezhstroyteknologiya to provide signalling, automation, telecommunications, power supply, security, and ticketing systems for Libya’s 551km Surt-Benghazi line.

Ansaldo STS leads the consortium with an 81.8% share, which equates to around €202 million, and includes the installation of the European Rail Traffic Management System (ERTMS), interlockings, trackside equipment, the control centre, and power supplies. The work covered by the contract will take around three years to complete.

The 551km Surt – Benghazi section is the first phase of a line that will stretch along the length of Libya’s Mediterranean coast from Tunisia to Egypt. The line will initially use diesel locomotives operating at up to 160km/h, although it will later switch to electric traction with a maximum operating speed of 250km/h. China Railway Construction is building the adjoining 352km Surt-Misratah-Al Khums section and the 172km western stretch of the line between Tripoli and the Tunisian border at Ras Adjir.

Last year Ansaldo STS was awarded the signalling, telecommunications, and power supply contract for both sections, as well as the 992km inland branch from Al Hishah to Waddan and Sabha
http://www.railwaysafrica.com/blog/2010/08/ansaldo-to-signal-libya/

Phase 1 : train diesel à 160 km/h
Phase 2 : électrification et passage à 250km/h avec le système ERMTS déjà installé.

FIRST 14KM OF LINE IN LIBYA

Posted on 26 March 2010

Rossiiskie Zheleznie Dorogi (RZhD – the Russian State Railway), which is building the new railway along Libya’s Mediterranean coast, has announced the completion of the first 14km. President Vladimir Yakunin visited the construction sites on 14 March where he met Libyan Railways chairman Said Mohammed Rashid. The €2·2 billion contract, signed in April 2008, currently employs 438 people on construction work, which is expected to take four years. In all, it is expected that a total of 3,500 local and Russian workers will help build the line.

Initially trains are to run at 160km/h, but the double track alignment makes provision for electrification, to allow running at 250km/h eventually. According to RZD the project includes the building of 1,000 structures, including 30 rail and 23 road bridges, and six major and 24 minor stations.
The China Railway Construction Corporation holds separate contracts in Libya, covering the 625km of route westwards from Surt to Al Khums, Tripoli and Ras Ejder on the Tunisian border, and an 800km line southwards from Misratah to iron ore deposits inland near Sabha.

http://www.railwaysafrica.com/blog/2010/03/first-14km-of-line-in-libya/

Les chinois, les russes et les italiens (matériel roulant) ont tous raflés.

Chinese works contract :

CRCC Wins USD2.6 bln Railway Contracts in Libya 　

AUTHOR： DATE：2008-02-24


Beijing (Xinhua News Agency，Reporter: Qi Zhong-xi)-- China Railway Construction Corp Ltd (CRCC) has won contracts to build two major railways worth about 3.2 billion dinars (USD2.6 bln ) in Libya, involving a coastal railway (2.2 bln dinars) and a south-north railway (1.0 dinars), CRCC sources told the reporters on Feb. 17, 2008.

The 352km-long coastal railway (from Khums to Sirt), as an important part of Pan-Africa railway network, is a trunk line running through Libya from west to east. It will take four years to complete and will mainly serve freight and passenger transportation between Khums and Sirt. The 800km-long south-to-north railway (from Sebha to Misurata), which will take three years to complete, will link the southern city Sebha and northern costal city Misurata to facilitate transportation of iron ore and passengers. CRCC said.

Both railways are initially set to begin in June this year. It is said that the construction of the two railways will put an end to the history that there has been no trunk railway within Libya borders.
http://www.crcc.cn/532-1704-4099.aspx

Normally works began on june 2008, and will take 4 years.

The Libyan government is considering a feasibility study for the estimated 2 billion rail at high speed between Benghazi and Tobruk in the east.

The source of the company, said Dorsch Afrique, a subsidiary of Germany's Dorsch Holding, is a consultant to conduct a feasibility study and is considering several options for the routing of the railway, including coastal, desert and mountain options. This leads to the track is between 440 km and 480 km in length.

Dorsch Africa is also working on the design of 150 km of high speed rail operation in Umm Saad Tobruk on the border with Egypt. These projects are the last part of plans by Libya to build USD 7.9 billion high-speed line that runs along the Mediterranean coast between Tunisia and Egypt through Libya's major cities.

In 2008, Russian Railways, has won a 2.2 billion euro deal to build a high-speed rail along the Mediterranean coast of Sirte and Benghazi. Construction is scheduled for 2012. China Railway employs 2.6 billion dollars worth of railway projects in Libya, including fast track between Khums and Sirte.

The client for the development of railways in Libya Railway Board, which also plans to extend the line west of Tripoli Khums.

In addition to its plans for high-speed, Libya also plans to develop the nurses station. Tender documents are being prepared, and this project could start moving in 2011. 104 km of subway in Tripoli is also provided. The first step is a red line that runs 41 km from the airport to the center of Tripoli, and then east towards the Tajura.

At this moment I think Libya has more important things to consider than building a HSR line...

An interesting photo in International Railway Journal, has started a series of articles in the Danish media.
The big question is how a Ansaldo built Danish IC4 diesel Intercity train set can suddenly appear in Libiya.
One theory is that Berlisconi (Silvio Corrupzioni as Danish cartoonists call him) sent it as a present to Gadaffi on the occasion of his 40 years anniversary as dictator, and probaby in the hope of securing some HS orders for Ansaldo.
Well I hope the train works better than the models sent to Denmark, where the order for over 90 sets is over 5 years delayed and still doesn´t work very well.

The Libiyan version.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2n87r5z.jpg

and the Danish version.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2web9k9.jpg

Libya's oil money has made it major world shareholder (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/21/libya-oil-money-major-world-shareholder)
Libya has been switching its ever-growing funds from low-yielding company shares into all manner of higher-return investments in recent years. Given the close relationship between Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi and Colonel Gaddafi it is perhaps not surprising that Libya has many investments in Italy.

These include a stake of about 2% in Fiat, 7.5% of Juventus football club, a 2% stake in – and joint venture with – Italian aerospace and defence group Finmeccanica and 7.5% in UniCredit, the bank.
Finmeccanica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finmeccanica) is AnsaldoBreda's parent company.

An interesting photo in International Railway Journal, has started a series of articles in the Danish media.
The big question is how a Ansaldo built Danish IC4 diesel Intercity train set can suddenly appear in Libiya.
One theory is that Berlisconi (Silvio Corrupzioni as Danish cartoonists call him) sent it as a present to Gadaffi on the occasion of his 40 years anniversary as dictator, and probaby in the hope of securing some HS orders for Ansaldo.
Well I hope the train works better than the models sent to Denmark, where the order for over 90 sets is over 5 years delayed and still doesn´t work very well.

The Libiyan version.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2n87r5z.jpg

and the Danish version.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2web9k9.jpg

And you know, one thing let to another, and now we have F-16 flying around there.

Btw, Anybody knows anything about the two parts using railways, or destroying it for that matter?

Well, isn't Danske Statsbaner's motto "Gode Tog til Alle"? Trains for all, including Libya!

Whether they are good or not is quite a different issue altogether...

I hope the line gets completed once that nut case is removed.

^^ it will, but time is probably a problem! either part of that case would have to use a lot time to recover.

I hope the line gets completed once that nut case is removed.

Unfortunatly highly unlikely because nut cases like him are the only ones able to procure funding for projects like these. In addition to million other things that are going to be needed that are more important.

Now the question is who will build the rest of the tracks! The rebels or King? Or is it the NATO?

^^ I'm quite sure the NATO is unthinable, there's no way they will even put land troops in that area, on every side, as it is now. So why they should take control over the area, i don't know.

:lol:


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DSB IC4 train shows up in Libya

A Danish IC4 train has been spotted in Libya. But what does it in an African country? The DSB did not. Actually they did not even know it was there


By Freja Czajkowski , Tuesday 15th February 2011 pm. 06:33


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A picture of a IC4 trains with Arabic letters. It surprised one of ing.dk 's readers over and sent the picture and accompanying article to the editors.

For when the Italian company AnsaldoBreda already has had difficulty delivering went to Denmark, what makes a IC4 trains so in Libya?

And it's a really good question. A question which even the DSB could not answer.

"It's a duck," was the first explanation.

The image was brought together with an article in International Railway Journal, on a railway that will link Tunisia and Egypt. The caption was the train presented as a Danish IC4 trains.

DSB had seen a similar article three months ago and rejected in the beginning that it would be true. In the picture, they thought, was manipulated. But as the article which ing.dk had got hold of was from January this year, DSB had to investigate further.

And it is indeed a Danish IC4 trains ended up in the African country. It's just not something that DSB has been informed. The question is, what it all doing in Libya.

"As far as I could find out it is a udstillingstog. And why it is down there as a udstillingstog has something to do with the fact that it is considering building a longer runway down there. But I do not know. I just know that it is a udstillingstog, "said Chief of DSB IC4 project, Torben Kronstam.

The article from International Railway Journal, says that a five-kilometer long runway has already been built and is currently being piloted. It is what the Danish IC4 train is used.

But it's not something that I need to know?

"We have a delivery plan, and we care about that when the train is delivered, then it's there. This train is not a train set, which we have been delivered yet. This is apparently a train as we get later in the delivery, "he says

So it's a train coming to Denmark at a later date?

"Probably, yes. And when I say probably, it is because I do not know whether they will deliver a train more and throw to Denmark and then keep the train down there. I do not know. But as long as the train is under production, it's AnsaldoBreda property, "says Torben Kronstam.

DSB gets right now supplied about three trainsets per month, and the agreement must AnsaldoBreda observe under an agreement reached in May 2009

"I think AnsaldoBreda has plenty to supply to us. So I think it's a gimmick. Now you will build a railway in Libya, and then it could be nice with a modern train to put on top of the rails, so customers can see what this might lead to, "he says.

In investigating further what is happening or is case closed for you?

"We do not believe that there is not anything dangerous or strange in this. They are producing some trains for us and all the trains involved in the delivery, we have been watching since we signed our agreement with them in May 2009. There is not any of them has disappeared. "

But you say yes, it is a train that I must have delivered?

"Yes, but they have to deliver the last train us in the third quarter of 2012, and there is after all a way to go yet




http://ing.dk/artikel/116494-dsbs-ic4-tog-dukker-op-i-libyen

The Libiyan version.

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^^
Is this train still exists? Or is it destroyed by the war now?

^^ probably, it doesn't seem to be a main objective :)

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Is this train still exists? Or is it destroyed by the war now?

The main task for Danish F-16s in the current war is to patrol the airspace above this train and protect it from any attacker. :yes:

^^ well, that's the secret the government has told us not to tell others, we really need every IC4 train we can get!

Can't we just send all IC4's to there, just as the V250? That'll rid is of a few problems, that's for sure :D

why is that train still sitting there? Can it be put to humanitarian uses, e.g. evacuating injured civilians?

why is that train still sitting there? Can it be put to humanitarian uses, e.g. evacuating injured civilians?

On the picture, the train is on a 5km test track. :crazy:

All railway lines were under construction when the war started so there are just some finished parts here and there which lead to nothing.

From moroccan forum : OUJDA - FEZ > TGV MAGHREB | High-Speed Rail (LGV) | 328 km (TRIPOLI + 2672 km) | 320 km/h | #Project (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=76406353#post76406353)

Works have been stopped since 1 month :

RUSSIAN CONSTRUCTION IN LIBYA HALTED

on March 15, 2011in Libya


On 23 February, Russian Railways announced that 204 specialists from the company and its affiliates were working on the construction of the new 550km line between Sirt and Benghazi in Libya. A statement issued by Russian Railways president Vladimir Yakunin said: “The safety of our employees is one of the priorities at Russian Railways. The Company knows the exact location of all its staff abroad, and all of them are safe. We are working closely with Russia’s ministry of foreign affairs and the Russian embassy in Libya to identify options to ensure the safety of our employees. A special group of company representatives is flying to Libya to resolve the situation on the ground.”

On 4 March, the unrest “front line” reached the Russian construction base at Ra’s Lanuf, halfway between Benghazi and Surt. Work on the Libyan coastal main-line from Ras Ejder on the Tunisian Border through the capital city Tripoli to Benghazi came to a halt as Chinese and Russian workers left to escape the civil war.

Worth €2.2 billion, the contract includes the building of six major stations

http://www.railwaysafrica.com/blog/2011/03/russian-construction-in-libya-halted/

CHINESE CONSTRUCTION IN LIBYA HALTED

on March 15, 2011in Libya


State-run China Railway Construction, which has evacuated most of its employees from Libya, says billion dollar projects are in jeopardy. A statement to the Shanghai Stock Exchange explained: ”Due to increasing turbulence in Libya and attacks against some of the company’s camps, all projects of the company have been suspended. Given the uncertain situation… the preservation of equipment and materials on site and subsequent development remain unclear.”

The company’s three projects in Libya have a total contract value of $US4.24 billion. Only about a sixth of the work, or $686 million’s worth, has been completed, according to the statement. The remaining $3.55 billion’s worth of contracts accounted for 2.3% of the company’s total outstanding contracts globally, it said.

The media reported China launching an “air, sea and land operation, to evacuate more than 30,000 citizens from Libya,
working mainly in the oil, rail and telecom sectors
http://www.railwaysafrica.com/blog/2011/03/chinese-construction-in-libya-halted/

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What happened to the project after the revolution?

^^ It's probably the last subject on the agenda. But in a couple of years, when the society and country is working properly again, the old drawings may come up again :)

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Since this thread were made the situation is totally different. It was a war in Libya and Gaddafi is killed now. So is this train still exists? Or is it destroyed by the war now? I think Libya have more important things to do now than keep this train. And maybe people think this train is a symbol for Gaddafi and destroeyd this train for that.

Do anyone here know anything about it?

Whatever happened to the trainset (couldn't they just repaint it and voila! a symbol of the new Libya- they do the same with military jets), the nation has more pressing needs than building grandiose high speed rail lines. I mean, this talk of HSR is like building HSR in Colombia or sub-Saharan Africa, something only the Chinese would dream up to curry political favor. Restoring and building conventional lines that carry freight and passenger trains that common people can afford are more important.

What would be far fetched about building a HSR in Colombia? A country with 46 million which would be the 2nd largest economy in Africa (quite close to SA). The only problem is the treacherous terrain, guerilla isn't an obstacle anymore, they are decimated :)

Whatever happened to the trainset (couldn't they just repaint it and voila! a symbol of the new Libya- they do the same with military jets), the nation has more pressing needs than building grandiose high speed rail lines. I mean, this talk of HSR is like building HSR in Colombia or sub-Saharan Africa, something only the Chinese would dream up to curry political favor. Restoring and building conventional lines that carry freight and passenger trains that common people can afford are more important.

Well, the actual situation is, that conventional and HSR lines are the same in case of Libya... AFAIK, as the first stage they planned a diesel coastal 160 km|h route (160 for passanger trains, of course, and something lower for freight), but curves for 200...250, so it can be electrified sometime in future for introducing HSR.

The second point - there were no trains in Libya. So technically there is nothing to restore. Railway system was created from a scrath, and was more than half comleted before outbreak of war.
Russian and chineese contractors fleed when war started, taking some equipment with them, but leaving much behind also...
The third point - it seems that new Libyan goverment is rather radical, so they may be not interested in railways, especially with oil money diverted into someone pockets...