View Full Version : Cities Population, Some Interesting Stats


Lightning~Bolt
August 8th, 2004, 09:51 AM
In recent years the movement of people across Australia, known as interstate migration, has been dominated by a northward stream to Queensland and a southward stream to Victoria, with all other states and territories experiencing net migration losses.

Western Australia has consistently recorded a higher annual population growth than the national average, and in 2003 Western Australia's growth of 1.4% was second only to Queensland (2.3%)

Western Australia:

Despite fluctuations between years, the number of people departing Western Australia has steadily increased over the past 16 years, reaching 33,700 during 2003. In 2003, people were most likely to move to Queensland (27%), Victoria (25%) and New South Wales (23%) and least likely to move to the Australian Capital Territory (3%) and Tasmania (5%).

The number of people moving to Western Australia reached 34,700 in 1997. Since 1989, more people have moved to Western Australia from New South Wales than any other state or territory. In 2003, most arrivals to Western Australia came from New South Wales (27%), Victoria (24%) and Queensland (22%), lesser numbers came from the Australian Capital Territory (3%) and Tasmania (5%).

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/90a12181d877a6a6ca2568b5007b861c/2bd134a850adf75dca256ec900813de5/Body/1.1CE8!OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=gif

States Population ('000):

NSW:
1990: 5,834.0
1999: 6,396.7
2000: 6,463.5

Vic:
1990: 4,378.6
1999: 4,707.6
2000: 4,765.9

QLD
1990: 2,899.3
1999: 3,506.9
2000: 3,566.4

WA:
1990: 1,613.0
1999: 1,857.6
2000: 1,883.9

SA:
1990: 1,432.1
1999: 1,492.4
2000: 1,497.6

Tas:
1990: 462.2
1999: 470.8
2000: 470.4

NT:
1990: 163.7
1999: 192.7
2000: 195.5

ACT:
1990: 282.2
1999: 309.3
2000: 310.8


It looks like Melbourne and Brisbane are the big movers, they will be the big growth in the next 5 years. Victoria could have a chance of taking over NSW population, not anytime soon, but more NSW residences are moving out than Victorians, especially to QLD. QLD could also take over from Victoria.

More population can ultimately decide more skyscrapers!!

Melbourne gets the biggest gain in terms of population out of the main Capital Cities, Gold Coast gets the biggest population gain out of the cities.

dynamoultraclean
August 8th, 2004, 09:59 AM
How can you generalise that Melbourne and the Gold Coast have the biggest population gains? The figures are for STATES.

tayser
August 8th, 2004, 09:59 AM
Wow this has a lot to do with Skyscrapers and Skylines.

Lightning~Bolt
August 8th, 2004, 10:28 AM
How can you generalise that Melbourne and the Gold Coast have the biggest population gains? The figures are for STATES.


I was also looking at the city populations....I forgor to post them, I will post them too.

Wow this has a lot to do with Skyscrapers and Skylines.

Where should I put it then tayser?

Population determines a skyline......

Lightning~Bolt
August 8th, 2004, 10:36 AM
Here are some indivdual summaries for each city and state:

New South Wales

New South Wales recorded the largest population increase of all the States and Territories in the year ending June 2001 (70 000 or 1.1%). Growth was mostly in metropolitan areas, coastal areas and in some regional centres. Baulkham Hills (up 8000) and Liverpool (up 5800) had the largest increases, while Wagga Wagga (down 340) and Broken Hill (down 330) had the largest decreases.

Victoria

For the third consecutive year Victoria’s population growth (1.3%) outpaced that of Australia as a whole (1.2%). Casey (up 7900) and Melbourne (up 5200) recorded the largest increases in Victoria. Wellington and La Trobe had the largest population losses, down 500 and 490, respectively.

Queensland

Queensland experienced the fastest growth in population of all the States and Territories (up 61 000 or 1.7%). The largest population increases were in Brisbane and Gold Coast (up 17 200 and 13 000 respectively). The largest declines were recorded in Rockhampton (down 240) and Duaringa (down 100).

South Australia

South Australia’s population grew by 5000 or 0.3% in the year ending June 2001. Most growth occurred in the Adelaide and Outer Adelaide SDs. Adelaide (up 500) and Mount Barker (up 480) had the largest population increases in the year ending June 2001. Whyalla (down 380) and Port Augusta (down 300) experienced the largest declines in South Australia.

Western Australia

Western Australia had the second fastest growth rate in Australia in 2000–2001, its population growing by 26 100 or 1.4%. The largest population growth areas were located in the metropolitan fringes of Perth with Wanneroo and Swan growing by 3100 and 2600 respectively. The largest population declines occurred in the mining-rural shires of Ashburton (down 250) and East Pilbara (down 220).

Tasmania

The population of Tasmania remained relatively stable in 2000–2001, declining by just 30 people. Meander Valley had the largest increase (160) followed by Kingborough (140). Launceston and Glenorchy had the largest population declines (down 140 and down 120 respectively).

Northern Territory

The Northern Territory’s population grew by 2100 or 1.1% in the year ending June 2001. Population growth in Palmerston–East Arm SSD accounted for two-thirds of the Northern Territory’s population growth in 2000–2001. Bakewell (520) and Palmerston Balance (400) experienced the largest increases while Groote Eylandt and Nhulunbuy experienced the largest decreases (down 50 people each).

ACT

The ACT’s population grew by 3200 (1.0%) in the year ending June 2001. The largest increases were in the recently developed suburbs in Canberra’s north in the suburbs of Amaroo (860) and Palmerston (440). The largest population declines occurred in Kambah (down 170) and Lyons (down 110).

Then is goes on to say:

"Sydney and Melbourne experienced the largest population increases of all capital cities (1.4% and 1.6% respectively)"

Then this:

"The largest growth among capital cities in 2002–03 occurred in the Melbourne SD (up 46,600 people), followed by Brisbane SD (up 42,700 people) and Sydney SD (up 34,500 people)."

These stats actually confuse me, because they are all from the one soruce.......so Melbourne had the biggest gain.....

Brisbane is the fastest growing, but Melbourne has had the most population increase.

AG
August 8th, 2004, 10:39 AM
More population can ultimately decide more skyscrapers!!

Not really. Check out the megacities around the world. Some of them have massive towering skyscrapers while others are ultimately almost low-rise. I think the term you are looking for is that it can influence future skyscrapers, not decide.

Lightning~Bolt
August 8th, 2004, 11:04 AM
Not really. Check out the megacities around the world. Some of them have massive towering skyscrapers while others are ultimately almost low-rise. I think the term you are looking for is that it can influence future skyscrapers, not decide.


Yeah thats true.....places like Indoesia have a large population and not very pretty cities....but obviosuly in Australia, the city with the largest population is going to have the most skyscrapers, and in this case its Sydney.

Its more cultural influences, as well as the money the city can generate and what type of living conditions the inhabitants want/demand.

Shado
August 8th, 2004, 12:05 PM
http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/29d57e46c7cb3897ca256e54007167f3?OpenDocument

^ ABS data - probably worth a read rather than reading second hand info.

Then this:

"The largest growth among capital cities in 2002–03 occurred in the Melbourne SD (up 46,600 people), followed by Brisbane SD (up 42,700 people) and Sydney SD (up 34,500 people)."

These stats actually confuse me, because they are all from the one soruce.......so Melbourne had the biggest gain.....

The reason it confuses you is because the first half of your data was the year ending June 2001 and the second half for the year ending June 2003. So of course the figures will be different.

Lightning~Bolt
August 8th, 2004, 12:29 PM
http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/29d57e46c7cb3897ca256e54007167f3?OpenDocument

^ ABS data - probably worth a read rather than reading second hand info.



The reason it confuses you is because the first half of your data was the year ending June 2001 and the second half for the year ending June 2003. So of course the figures will be different.


Yes! Thats what I mean, they are from the same source, the website quotes the ABS stats, then the ABS quotes it....weird.....

Lightning~Bolt
August 8th, 2004, 12:29 PM
it suprises me more that Vic/Melb had some substantial gains...we didn't lose too many....

JayT
August 8th, 2004, 02:26 PM
It realy helps the stats if your city takes in half the metropolitan area like Brisbane does.

Two fastest growing shires/cities in each of the mainland states:

Brisbane City up 17,200 (qld)
Gold Coast City up 13,000 (qld)
Baulkham Hills up 8000 (nsw)
Casey up 7900 (vic)
Liverpool up 5800 (nsw)
Melbourne up 5200 (vic)
Wanneroo up by 3100 (wa)
Swan ub by 2600 (wa)
Adelaide up 500 (sa)
Mount Barker up 480 (sa)

I'd say some apartment building would have contributed to those figures - especially in Adelaide, Melbourne and Brisbane.

jt

zztopless
August 10th, 2004, 06:44 AM
It realy helps the stats if your city takes in half the metropolitan area like Brisbane does.

Two fastest growing shires/cities in each of the mainland states:

Brisbane City up 17,200 (qld)
Gold Coast City up 13,000 (qld)
Baulkham Hills up 8000 (nsw)
Casey up 7900 (vic)
Liverpool up 5800 (nsw)
Melbourne up 5200 (vic)
Wanneroo up by 3100 (wa)
Swan ub by 2600 (wa)
Adelaide up 500 (sa)
Mount Barker up 480 (sa)

I'd say some apartment building would have contributed to those figures - especially in Adelaide, Melbourne and Brisbane.

jt

Thats a bit of an unfair guide though, as the Brisbane City Council area is huge (having merged all the smaller councils together to make one large one).

JayT
August 10th, 2004, 08:14 AM
Thats a bit of an unfair guide though, as the Brisbane City Council area is huge (having merged all the smaller councils together to make one large one).

Actually Greater Brisbane is made up of 9 councils - not including the 3 on the Sunshine Coast.

Brisbane City
Logan City
Ipswich City
Gold Coast City
Redcliffe City
Redlands Shire
Pine Rivers Shire
Caboolture Shire
Beaudesert Shire

jt

Blend
August 10th, 2004, 09:00 AM
I am under the Pine Rivers Shire council. :) it is green and leafy here.

JayT
August 10th, 2004, 09:06 AM
I am under the Pine Rivers Shire council. :) it is green and leafy here.

I also used to live in Pine Rivers - its 'exurbia' is now being infiltrated by suburbia, like the rest of SEQ. They are now running out of room and having to densify.

jt

Blend
August 10th, 2004, 09:15 AM
maybe, but its impossible for them to remove the state forest behind me (i believe)
unfortunatly theyre pushing it to the limits, cutting down trees and building estates right up to the VERY edge of the forest. the yards go right up to the fenceline dammit!

Shado
August 10th, 2004, 06:20 PM
I'm in Logan City here, rather interesting wedged between Brisbane City council & Gold Coast City council. (Though it means it's both a short trip to the Gold Coast on weekends and a short trip to work in Brisbane City.)

North - South along the freeway Logan is one pure urban corridor. (actually has been for > 20 years)... Still fairly rural towards Redlands area.

Cee_em_bee
August 15th, 2004, 10:33 AM
It realy helps the stats if your city takes in half the metropolitan area like Brisbane does.

Two fastest growing shires/cities in each of the mainland states:

Brisbane City up 17,200 (qld)
Gold Coast City up 13,000 (qld)
Baulkham Hills up 8000 (nsw)
Casey up 7900 (vic)
Liverpool up 5800 (nsw)
Melbourne up 5200 (vic)
Wanneroo up by 3100 (wa)
Swan ub by 2600 (wa)
Adelaide up 500 (sa)
Mount Barker up 480 (sa)

I'd say some apartment building would have contributed to those figures - especially in Adelaide, Melbourne and Brisbane.

jt

Wyong grew by 5,000 people.. I think that list is inconsistant

**Edit** Read it wrong, my bad

JayT
August 15th, 2004, 11:18 AM
Wyong grew by 5,000 people.. I think that list is inconsistant

**Edit** Read it wrong, my bad

It was only top two in each state.

Double ***edit**** missed the fact that you had already edited your post so I have had to do the same :)

jt

tayser
August 15th, 2004, 01:08 PM
Where should I put it then tayser?


here.