View Full Version : 3D Surreal city


Kevin Cappis
August 9th, 2004, 09:57 PM
This is a 3D surreal city that I made using 3D Studio Max. It's not meant to look to realistic, just real enough that from a ditance it looks real.

http://www.surrealplaces.com/cities/island_cities_II.jpg

Skyrise
August 9th, 2004, 11:27 PM
your great, but you already knew that :P

(best thing about your city that was new to me is the railsystems and infrastructure, it really adds a lot to the general look)

oh and youre islands/ground always looks real good

and the zeppelins are happy thoughts :P

just a little comment to end with: it could use a little color to spice it up a bit, but like you said: it's surreal :)

Style™
August 10th, 2004, 03:22 AM
That looks awsome. The way the city is connected through the bridges and with the water is very cool.

Avatar
August 12th, 2004, 05:23 AM
That's quite fullon! It's quite detailed - alot of 1970s and early 1980s style towers though.

All I have done on mine is developed one building and some boxes and lumped them on an image of a city map... your's looks great, very impressive.

Skyrise
August 13th, 2004, 06:57 PM
bump we should really try to get some people warm for a SSC alike thing with these 3d scrapers!! Im gonna work on this sunday

cicarra
September 11th, 2004, 04:31 AM
that's awesome!!! Looks like one of those heavily industrialized cities, VERY stylish!!!

LeCom
September 16th, 2004, 04:53 AM
Wait, you're the guy that got like a whole bunch of similar cities somewhere on the Internet? Those are all awesome. Like a year ago I bumped into your website and made a thread about it over at skyscraperpage.com . The people loved it.

axerod
November 24th, 2004, 06:08 AM
wow!!!
I also use max but always have trouble with the sky! how did you do it?????

Malt
November 24th, 2004, 09:24 AM
I have trouble with lighting/sky also in it.

Its amazing how he's done that.

axerod
November 29th, 2004, 10:07 AM
I came back to see if I git a reply to my question....PLEASE!!! o wise one..how do you get the sky/background to render like that on Max 6, I have a final presentation on the in a week!!

Malt
December 1st, 2004, 03:10 PM
^^
ive gone a long way in mastering the lighting and background.

His clouds are interesting though...
There is a cloud option which works ok but my god the rendering when using shadows/lighting and clouds takes a long long time!

Kev the burninator
December 2nd, 2004, 02:14 AM
that's really cool

Pas
December 2nd, 2004, 02:54 AM
Awesome!! so many intricate details. Did you use the fog effect in 3D Max?

Malt
December 2nd, 2004, 05:12 AM
that image would have taken hours to render.
look at the shadows...

axerod
December 2nd, 2004, 08:43 AM
^^
ive gone a long way in mastering the lighting and background.

His clouds are interesting though...
There is a cloud option which works ok but my god the rendering when using shadows/lighting and clouds takes a long long time!



Where is that cloud option? is it in the render box? how much render time does it add? It looks like he did not need to much lighting though!

Malt
December 4th, 2004, 05:19 PM
when u put in an ISE Skylight there is an option for clouds.

also you might want to look through the particles sections. They have rain and so on, so id expect clouds.
What he has looks like fog actually.

Giorgio
January 27th, 2005, 06:46 AM
what r u talking about avatar? weres the '70s buildings? There all Stylish very modern

Avatar
January 27th, 2005, 02:46 PM
what r u talking about avatar? weres the '70s buildings? There all Stylish very modern

You're are an arrogant piece of shit.

Cough, Where was I being critical? I like Kevin's work and I like this rendering (As a style i just happen to prefer late modernism and post-modernism). Never once did I intimate that the buildings in the rendering were lacking style. Anyway there are alot of 70s towers that reflect style and many were built in an Internationalist style -similar to what I see in many of the towers in this render.

I was refering to the solid, ultilitarian, unornamented appearance in some of the buildings. i see elements of modernism, Bauhaus/international aesthetics and the more extreme although heavily related Brutalism - go and study design history and theory and don't bother me with your petty comments again. Take a look at the Metlife Building etc. Most of the towers in this image are not that post-modern in interpretation, although a few appear a bit like the post-modern Library Tower most are from an earlier design philoshophy.

The city has an slight industrial feeling about it too - look at the truss bridges. If i was placing the city in an era - it would be around the early 1980s, you will notice an absence of complete glass-walled towers. While I am not being at all critical (I think the rendering looks great!) it hardly looks as though all the towers were built post 2000, many don't even look 1990s - if that is indeed what you refer to by saying "modern". Many of the towers are built showing a heavy flow on from the modernist aesthetics - moving into the international style. International would not be considered a new style seeing as though it found favour some decades ago.

Giorgos69, obviously you have no eye for detail or a rather limited understanding of art style, theory and history.

Malt
January 27th, 2005, 03:26 PM
lol. The way he has detailed them there certainly not stylish and modern. I suppose one or 2 could pass off as modern if the lighting, and colouring were different on them. But they are obviously all grey boxes with a few exceptions (grey cylinders)

But that doesnt matter. This wasnt about his architectural design abilities, it was about his obviously awesome skill at making a 3d model, and rendering it very well

Giorgio
January 28th, 2005, 02:45 PM
.......Giorgos69, obviously you have no eye for detail or a rather limited understanding of art style, theory and history.
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Were did i metion you being critical? I didnt. Were did i mention that you didnt say it had style? I didnt. you are a fool. It never mentioned that it was post modern, you are just assuming that it is. Never again insualt my eye for art and Architecture. My comment was more of a question. I was asking for refrence to the 70's buildings. The fact they they are boxy dosent make them non modern, just not unique. i agree it looks very industrial. are the buildings based on LA? Sorry for getting you down avatar but you dont have to refer to me as a 'peice of shit' to get your message across. Now i know how much of an Immature person that has little understanding of architecture you are.....

Avatar
January 28th, 2005, 04:00 PM
Excuse me? I don't appreciate you attempting to make me look like a fool by openenly questioning me for no good reason than for you to cause arguement.

Yes and your spelling and grammar is on par with your level of architectural knowledge. You don't get me down. You amaze me with ridiculous questions and then expect me to be civil. I gave you reference to the 70s buildings and I gave you direct reference to design styles and movements - which you chose to ignore.

There was nothing infantile in my response - if you feel it is necessary to carry over a debate from the other thread fine - I am not getting involved, I have better things to do. Punctuating your text with two closely followed question marks, is suggestive of an aggressive tone - I took offense. Instead of making a positive comment on this thread you decide to question me and you choose to ignore the content. You then attempt to undermine my personal opinion and validate it with what... a poorly constructed statement? "There all Stylish very modern", well whatever! It's fine for you to be ignorant, it's even fine for you to have a differing opinion but why in hell's name do you come on here and attempt to aggravate me - I just gave you the reasons why I talked of 70s and 80s towers and it was all based on design movements, stylistic accents and my interpretation of the rendering based on the real world.

The buildings may indeed be like that for a technical reason - ie to save rendering time or complexity. Even still the design as it stands exhibits some strong aesthetic cues that were born out of differing design movements (for the buildings). If I believe they look like 70s and early 80s towers I should be entitled to do so - if you want to refute it at least have the decency to tell us why you disagree with my opinion and give some valid reason as to why I am wrong. I'm not always correct and everyone can make errors in judgement but I find it difficult to argue with design history and theory in this case.

Avatar
January 28th, 2005, 04:17 PM
lol. The way he has detailed them there certainly not stylish and modern. I suppose one or 2 could pass off as modern if the lighting, and colouring were different on them. But they are obviously all grey boxes with a few exceptions (grey cylinders)

But that doesnt matter. This wasnt about his architectural design abilities, it was about his obviously awesome skill at making a 3d model, and rendering it very well

Malt is correct - the artwork is more a statement of rendering skill than individual building design. If he designed it with a certain era in mind we simply do not know for sure - but from a style point of view it would seem he did.

Perth4life3
January 28th, 2005, 04:46 PM
WELL I THINK TIS FUCKEN AWESOME!

Giorgio
January 29th, 2005, 06:51 AM
Avatar, you need to chillout a bit. Stop taking things so personally. If simple questions aggrovate you like .. which buildings are '70's style then you need help. I asked your opinion, i didnt ask for you to get all defensive. Once again i am really sorry and hope that we can sustain a neutral relationship on this forum. Lets finish this petty argument.

Avatar
January 30th, 2005, 10:15 AM
LOL you don't have to apologise - I don't hold grudges if that's what you think. It's cool, of course we can have a civil and constructive forum relationship.

Giorgio
February 2nd, 2005, 01:45 PM
good i am glad we settled this normally. See you round the forumns ;)

touraccuracy
March 12th, 2005, 08:16 PM
That is one of the most amazing things ever. I wish I could do that. How long did it take?

Ex-Ithacan
March 20th, 2005, 06:44 PM
Very cool. I like the reflections of the scrapers in the water. I do find the airships a bit distracting, but c'est la vie. Got any others?

Sonic from Padova
March 22nd, 2005, 05:05 PM
WOW, fantastic!!!

Skyrise
April 3rd, 2005, 06:46 PM
That is one of the most amazing things ever. I wish I could do that. How long did it take?

since Kevin is not around now I'll try to give you some insights :)

for building in Bryce (and Kevin uses 3dsMax as well) it usually takes anywhere from 15 to 60 minutes on really simple buildings and from 1 up to 3 hours on more complicated structures.

As you see Kevin uses the smaller buildings several times to fill up the city so not every building is unique.

I don't know how long it took exactly, but you get an idea now.



Rendering in Bryce takes somewhere between 20 and 120 minutes on a P4 with enough memory (512+ minimal) depending on the render settings :) (but that is said really as an "estimate" cause render times depend on a million factors!)