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I love it. Quite a lot of my friends have been on pilgrimage here, and I think there is the house of the Prophet in Akka which is nearby.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Baha%27i_arc_from_archives.jpg

In this photo they have this tall building right behind the gardens towering over it, it looks kinda ugly like that lol. Not very pleasant.

amazing! absolutely breathtaking! it looks like the french riviera but nicer :O

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WOW !

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Thanks guys! :)

What really makes this place so beautiful is the ambiance- the sites, the sounds, even the smell. Being in the gardens is like having an out-of-body experience--- this feeling of total calm and tranquility fills your soul. It is truly like being in heaven on earth.

I think for this, we are truly indebted to Persia, since this is from where the Bahaii came. And without them, there would be no temples and gardens. :D

^^ can anyone visit it?

^^ can anyone visit it?

Yeah- anyone can visit the gardens, but I think that only Bahaii are allowed to go inside the temple.

This place is almost magical, surreal. Wish to visit it one day inshallah!

There were many Bahai's where I used to live, they used to show this temple a lot on their local broadcasting TV station.

The have another nice temple in India, the lotus shaped one.

Beautiful place, a gift to manking! Place of peace and unity. Thanks for share greetings from Montevideo, Uruguay

Bahais always feel to me like ME Mormons, these is a temple in oakland

http://temples.elds.org/oaklandmormontemple-com/files/2011/08/mormon-temple-Oakland-California2.jpg

wow, its like heaven
possibly one of the most beautiful places on earth, and that mediterreanian
sun and sea, ohhh boy

wow, its like heaven
possibly one of the most beautiful places on earth, and that mediterreanian
sun and sea, ohhh boy
Bahaollah (their prophet) was born in shiraz right?

They will eventually have temples back home and Shiraz is already known as the city of gardens, so I can't wait to see what they do in Shiraz. Their gardens are amazing.

Isn't it amazing how Iranian religions are so peaceful and awesome compared to abrahamic religions?

Zoroastrianism=good deeds, good words, good thoughts
Bahais ephasize the "spiritual unity of all humankind"

Abarahamic religions=accept my 'peaceful' religion or die

:lol:

Bahais always feel to me like ME Mormons, these is a temple in oakland

http://temples.elds.org/oaklandmormontemple-com/files/2011/08/mormon-temple-Oakland-California2.jpg
First no so good looking Bahai temple I've seen

This is their New Delhi temple. The architect of the Lotus Temple is an Iranian Bahai by the name of Fariborz Sahba.
http://www.shalusharma.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Lotus-Temple-New-Delhi.jpg

And in Chicago
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Willmette_how.jpg/800px-Willmette_how.jpg

Bahaollah (their prophet) was born in shiraz right?

They will eventually have temples back home and Shiraz is already known as the city of gardens, so I can't wait to see what they do in Shiraz. Their gardens are amazing.

Isn't it amazing how Iranian religions are so peaceful and awesome compared to abrahamic religions?

Zoroastrianism=good deeds, good words, good thoughts
Bahais ephasize the "spiritual unity of all humankind"

Abarahamic religions=accept my 'peaceful' religion or die

:lol:
i think tehran is where he was born

Bahaollah (their prophet) was born in shiraz right?

They will eventually have temples back home and Shiraz is already known as the city of gardens, so I can't wait to see what they do in Shiraz. Their gardens are amazing.

Isn't it amazing how Iranian religions are so peaceful and awesome compared to abrahamic religions?

Zoroastrianism=good deeds, good words, good thoughts
Bahais ephasize the "spiritual unity of all humankind"

Abarahamic religions=accept my 'peaceful' religion or die

:lol:

Which is why your religions perished and Semitic ones triumphed :smug:

Which is why your religions perished and Semitic ones triumphed :smug:
Factually speaking, Abrahamic religions are still babies. Iranian religions dominated for much longer periods and most still exist.

btw, the age of kingdoms and state religions are coming to an end. Iran and Saudi are the last of the breed. Iran became a theocracy on accident as well and we don't have to wait much longer till Khomaini's retarded utopia goes to the dust bin of history.

Arabs attacked Iran in the 600's. From then on, we've never had a democratic nation. Once Iran democratizes and religous freedom comes to Iran (which will be a first in millenia), many millions will start looking for alternatives (right now people are doing so secretly).

There are of course no real statistics, but those of us that have lived in Iran are familiar with an impt phenomenon: a person's opinion on Islam/zoroastrianism/Bahaism is directly proportional to hsi/her income and whether or not he/she come from an urban background or rural. The trend is super obvious. A survey done in the US (among Iranians) showed that only 2/5 Iranians identified themselves as muslim. I see the exact same thing happening in the next 6-7 decades in Iran, there is no question about it.

Abrahamic religions have always been state religions and they've always been forced. You take away the stick and people will look for alternatives. Europeans never really had organized monotheistic religions for themselves, so even though most Europeans today are agnostics/atheists, they're still statistical christians. In a country like Iran, where monotheism was invented and many other monotheistic religions exist, there are many alternatives for people who want smtg different.

i think tehran is where he was born
You're right, I got him mixed up with Bab who invented Babism.

The Bábi Faith (Persian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language): بابی ها‎ Bábí há ) is a religious movement that flourished in Persia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Empire) from 1844 to 1852, then lingered on in exile in the Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) (especially Cyprus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus)) as well as underground. Its founder was Siyyid `Alí Muhammad Shirazi, who took the title (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_names) Báb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1b)—meaning "Gate"—from a Shi'a (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi%27a_Islam) theological term. Unlike other Islamic messianic movements, the Bábí movement signalled a break with Islam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam) and attempted to start a new religious system. While the Bábí movement was violently opposed and crushed by the clerical and government establishments in the country in the mid 1850s, the Bábí movement led to the founding of the Bahá'í Faith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith) which sees the religion brought by the Báb as a predecessor to their own religion, and gives a renewed significance to the Bábí movement.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1bism#cite_note-iranica_babism-0)


Never read anything about him. But seems he was a patriot.

Factually speaking, Abrahamic religions are still babies. Iranian religions dominated for much longer periods and most still exist.

btw, the age of kingdoms and state religions are coming to an end. Iran and Saudi are the last of the breed. Iran became a theocracy on accident as well and we don't have to wait much longer till Khomaini's retarded utopia goes to the dust bin of history.

Arabs attacked Iran in the 600's. From then on, we've never had a democratic nation. Once Iran democratizes and religous freedom comes to Iran (which will be a first in millenia), many millions will start looking for alternatives (right now people are doing so secretly).

There are of course no real statistics, but those of us that have lived in Iran are familiar with an impt phenomenon: a person's opinion on Islam/zoroastrianism/Bahaism is directly proportional to hsi/her income and whether or not he/she come from an urban background or rural. The trend is super obvious. A survey done in the US (among Iranians) showed that only 2/5 Iranians identified themselves as muslim. I see the exact same thing happening in the next 6-7 decades in Iran, there is no question about it.

Abrahamic religions have always been state religions and they've always been forced. You take away the stick and people will look for alternatives. Europeans never really had organized monotheistic religions for themselves, so even though most Europeans today are agnostics/atheists, they're still statistical christians. In a country like Iran, where monotheism was invented and many other monotheistic religions exist, there are many alternatives for people who want smtg different.

Urgh do you have to take the fun out of everything? We get it; only poor Iranians are Muslim and the rest all despise the lizard eaters-imposed religion and prefer more peaceful and prosperous ways of living.

lol
lets first get it straight with the nuclear facilities, lets leave the religions for later

at the end, religions are all man made ideologies, some harsher, some more relaxed
some more free, more liberal and happy some not

Urgh do you have to take the fun out of everything? We get it; only poor Iranians are Muslim and the rest all despise the lizard eaters-imposed religion and prefer more peaceful and prosperous ways of living.

This is a discussion and we're discussing a certain matter. If the discussion is going to rub you the wrong way, you're welcome to stay out. You stated that Iranian religions have "perished" which is incorrect as Zoroastrianism is alive in Asia and is even a recognized religion by the Islamic Theocracy of Iran. I corrected you. What I said about Abrahamic religions is not just a personal opinion as it's an opinion shared by the vast majority of historians and scholars.

here are pictures of Bahaii temples around the world, they are'll pretty awesome!
http://bahai.pk/eng/howorship/howorship.htm


Arabs attacked Iran in the 600's. From then on, we've never had a democratic nation.

Did Iran have a democratic nation prior to that? just wondering.

lol

Abii do you think that if we had a democracy, Iran would have been in war for 100's of years with the Greeks in Byzantium? Don't mix up freedom of expression with democracy.

Baha'i is rather mystic to me, don't know much about it, just know that people following this faith are in general very polite and well educated.

here are pictures of Bahaii temples around the world, they are'll pretty awesome!
http://bahai.pk/eng/howorship/howorship.htm



Did Iran have a democratic nation prior to that? just wondering.The world 2000 years ago was a much different place. The absolutes of the 21st century didn't exist back then. I thought people here would be smarter than to ask such questions, seems not.

During the Achemenid period in Iran, there was freedom of religion in Iran and that was as good as it got back then, so we did have freedom of religion at least. But during the Sassanid period, we didn't have any freedom of religion and Iran was a theocratic Zoroastrian state.

To repeat my earlier point, I'm suggesting that Islam has been unchallenged in Iran for 1400 years b/c people have never been able to convert freely (for most of this period and even today, leaving Islam has carried the death sentence). Although Islam will remain in Iran forever, the tight grip that it has on society is purely artificial and would losen up significantly after 2-3 generations of democracy in Iran.

Abii do you think that if we had a democracy, Iran would have been in war for 100's of years with the Greeks in Byzantium? Don't mix up freedom of expression with democracy.

Baha'i is rather mystic to me, don't know much about it, just know that people following this faith are in general very polite and well educated.
you're 100 percent correct.

of course I should use the correct terminology, but democracy has sort of become an all-encompassing term for freedom of expression/modernity/religous freedom/human rights etc...

Re. Bahais, I've had the opposite view on them as you. To me they're illogical and a little backward. In the mullahocracy that is today's Iran, they demand to be free to practice their religion and when caught and put in prison, they refuse to give it up, even in words alone. I mean all you have to do most of the time is say I repent and I'm no longer a bahai and I accept Islam, that's it!!!! You can be a statistical muslim like the rest of us and practice your religion in secret till these baboons piss off. When they get killed for their religion, I have to think that they're a bit fanatical.

The world 2000 years ago was a much different place. The absolutes of the 21st century didn't exist back then. I thought people here would be smarter than to ask such questions, seems not.

During the Achemenid period in Iran, there was freedom of religion in Iran and that was as good as it got back then, so we did have freedom of religion at least. But during the Sassanid period, we didn't have any freedom of religion and Iran was a theocratic Zoroastrian state.

To repeat my earlier point, I'm suggesting that Islam has been unchallenged in Iran for 1400 years b/c people have never been able to convert freely (for most of this period and even today, leaving Islam has carried the death sentence). Although Islam will remain in Iran forever, the tight grip that it has on society is purely artificial and would losen up significantly after 2-3 generations of democracy in Iran.

I'm not fond of history but I get that the answer to my question is 'no'. Thanks!

I'm not fond of history but I get that the answer to my question is 'no'. Thanks!

the troll is strong in this one

The world 2000 years ago was a much different place. The absolutes of the 21st century didn't exist back then. I thought people here would be smarter than to ask such questions, seems not.

During the Achemenid period in Iran, there was freedom of religion in Iran and that was as good as it got back then, so we did have freedom of religion at least. But during the Sassanid period, we didn't have any freedom of religion and Iran was a theocratic Zoroastrian state.

To repeat my earlier point, I'm suggesting that Islam has been unchallenged in Iran for 1400 years b/c people have never been able to convert freely (for most of this period and even today, leaving Islam has carried the death sentence). Although Islam will remain in Iran forever, the tight grip that it has on society is purely artificial and would losen up significantly after 2-3 generations of democracy in Iran.

islam has heavily been challenged, by rumi, by khayyam by almost all philosophers of the time, by the rulers and the people
infact, the caliphate hated islamic "philosophy" as it broke down and critiqued the religion, which was only done really by non hejazi muslims, namely persians(iranians) and to an extent baghdadis (iraqis , in other terms , mesopotamians) and other groups
khayyam in a certain poem says "oh ahle sonnat do not call me a kafer philsouph as i am.... " , it was considered an insult by the caliphate, although, an appreciation in the eyes of iran
one of the ways persian culture survived is that islam has been so challenged that we practically separated ourselves by shiism
u have to know that islam was not a philosphy or a mystical ideology, we turned it into that, islam was a way of life , a form of code of conduct
i know what u are trying to say, ur looking for a more absolute and definitive context, but note that islam has been challenged in iran, if it wasnt, we would be some taliban nation today, maybe not even have had the so called "golden age" or even vital things like language, its the difference of over hundreds of years of inferential battle and a large cultural war, to create a distinct identity

Those people you call Mesopotamians were Iraqi Arabs. Arabs, which was a word invented by the Semitic Assyrians ruling ancient modern-day Iraq, less than 2800 years ago to describe the LOCAL nomads and rural people living in the deserts of Iraq (Arabian and Syrian Desert). The Arab presence begins in Iraq of all places were the word Arab is first mentioned. That was 2800 years ago.

Moreover there were many ancient local Iraqi Arab kingdoms. Having said that Iraq is the homeland of all Semitic people were the oldest known Semitic peoples and language (Akkadians - Akkadian language) originates. All the Semitic people (be it Assyrians, Babylonians, Mesopotamians, Arabs) are all Semitic people and related. They both originate from the Fertile Crescent were the first known civilizations appeared in the world. All of the Arabian Peninsula and Fertile Crescent are heavily related since ancient times.

The people during the Golden Age of Islam, especially in modern-day Iraq where the Abbasid Caliphs ruled from for 500 years were mostly all local Iraqi Arabs. This is documented in the history.

Just because there were other non-Arabs as well (Kurds, Iranians, Caucasians, Turks, Blacks etc.) makes no difference. Today 80 percent of Iraqis are Arabs but like anywhere else in the Arab world they live next to other people and some have also mixed with blacks, Kurds, Turks and others. Nobody is pure in that sense. Not even Aboriginals who have lived isolated for thousands of years.

Anyway the whole discussion about which religion is the best and that Abrahamic religions are violent is complete and utter nonsense. Not a surprise when the "author" is this Abii user.:lol:

Anyway ancient Semitic religions are older than Iranian/Persian just like the culture and civilizations.

seriously people ?!! seriously ??
again with this Arab/Iranian shit , you know what ,we deserve the stupid situation we live in ,, you guys are what dictators pray for

Guys take your Iran and Arab problems somewhere else. Al-Hashimi, get them bro!:D


On-topic:
I loved it, it is indeed one of the most beautiful places I have seen. Looks fantastic, I hope that one day in Iraq we can have similar beautiful gardens:)
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Looks amazing!

Those people you call Mesopotamians were Iraqi Arabs. Arabs, which was a word invented by the Semitic Assyrians ruling ancient modern-day Iraq, less than 2800 years ago to describe the LOCAL nomads and rural people living in the deserts of Iraq (Arabian and Syrian Desert). The Arab presence begins in Iraq of all places were the word Arab is first mentioned. That was 2800 years ago.

Moreover there were many ancient local Iraqi Arab kingdoms. Having said that Iraq is the homeland of all Semitic people were the oldest known Semitic peoples and language (Akkadians - Akkadian language) originates. All the Semitic people (be it Assyrians, Babylonians, Mesopotamians, Arabs) are all Semitic people and related. They both originate from the Fertile Crescent were the first known civilizations appeared in the world. All of the Arabian Peninsula and Fertile Crescent are heavily related since ancient times.

The people during the Golden Age of Islam, especially in modern-day Iraq where the Abbasid Caliphs ruled from for 500 years were mostly all local Iraqi Arabs. This is documented in the history.

Just because there were other non-Arabs as well (Kurds, Iranians, Caucasians, Turks, Blacks etc.) makes no difference. Today 80 percent of Iraqis are Arabs but like anywhere else in the Arab world they live next to other people and some have also mixed with blacks, Kurds, Turks and others. Nobody is pure in that sense. Not even Aboriginals who have lived isolated for thousands of years.

Anyway the whole discussion about which religion is the best and that Abrahamic religions are violent is complete and utter nonsense. Not a surprise when the "author" is this Abii user.:lol:

Anyway ancient Semitic religions are older than Iranian/Persian just like the culture and civilizations.

bro , akhawi, habibi, seddiqqi , mon frere , your in a different world, your something else my friend, overtly unique, too unique for any of the mena forumers
even axelferris would be defeated by you

Oh Soroush, I hate you and love you at the same time. :drunk:

seriously people ?!! seriously ??
again with this Arab/Iranian shit , you know what ,we deserve the stupid situation we live in ,, you guys are what dictators pray for

*betchslap*get yourself together*betchslap*

:D

*betchslap*get yourself together*betchslap*


thank you ,, i needed that ,, my hormones are acting up ,, i think i'm reaching that age :(

Is this hashimi dude a saudi?

He doesn't sound Iraqi

Oh really? I know the truth hurts.

Anyway you sound like an deluded Ajami who suffers from an inferior complex towards Semitic people - especially Arabs and Semitic culture/civilizations.

This thread is a good example of that.