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Fastandfurious1989
May 6th, 2012, 08:00 AM
adum kulamayo??
kashtam..ennalum oru flyover aayi bhagyam.
it is always good to maintain aroung 80kmph in our divided highways.comfort is really good,once we cross 100, situation will demand for hard braking frequently,can cause accidents.
i think old coimbatore bypass was much better to drive than mannuthy angamaly section eventhough it was 2 lane.140kmph+ is easily achievable.only problem was frequent toll gates......

maheshponneth
May 6th, 2012, 01:01 PM
^^ but a fly over should be built in the junction when ever it is essential. But if it is unnecessary, it will be merely financial waste. That is happened in the case of Aluva flyover. I strongly belive that it should be built over the main jn(bypass jn).

DileepKS
May 7th, 2012, 04:39 AM
We went to Mahesh's domain (Vadakkunnathan Temple) yesterday. The traffic being light, I did some experiments to calibrate the 'design speed' of various stretches.

The new Angamaly-Mannuthy stretch is comfortably grad/banked for speeds upto 100kph, but many of the lane ends are done for much lower speeds. This is a marking problem. The older Angamaly-Kalamassery stretch is apparently grad/banked for 70kph. Not bad, because this is in fact a city highway.

My father-in law, while sitting in the rear seat, comfortably under AC, was throughout cursing all these extravagance by the govt for the 'rich people' with all these 'shiny cars'. My respect for his love, age, position (And mostly fear for his daughter's wrath) prevented me from asking him to get out and ride a bus. :)

Luckily, no one apparently noticed the speedo, because they think anything more than 50kph is 'dangerous overspeeding'

Fastandfurious1989
May 7th, 2012, 05:50 AM
almost of the thandapideez are like that..
vadakkumnathan eppadi??
bodhicho??
old people says that there is an order in which we should go to each temple within that.
though it is in the centre of a busy city, it is very calm inside. u never get such a feeling in other temples either thiruvampadi or paramekkavu..

DileepKS
May 7th, 2012, 08:07 AM
This was my second visit to vadakkunnathan. Me and family visited some months ago, and the description for the parents interested to visit. Yes, it is a great place.

Great roads, and nice traffic too. We also visited the zoo. Didn't get to the museums. Will come another day for that.

Malayaali
May 7th, 2012, 11:36 AM
almost of the thandapideez are like that.

:lol:

To the contrary is mine. He loves speed and is always ok with safety and speed.

ajithv
May 9th, 2012, 08:12 AM
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2843/nhmv.jpg

Source: Metro Vaartha

rkpai13
May 9th, 2012, 08:41 PM
http://epaper.mathrubhumi.com/epaperimages/952012/952012-md-kz-12/52142921.JPG

Distance and cost between Kozhikode and Ernakulam will reduce after the opening of Chamravattom bridge as KSRTC is planning to run buses through this bridge.

Source: Mathrubhumi

Malayaali
May 9th, 2012, 08:43 PM
^^

Can anyone enlighten how the distance is reduced? Where does the new roads connect with the existing?

RKPV
May 9th, 2012, 09:28 PM
^^Distance will be reduced by around 25 kms , if you take the route Edapally- Kodungallur-Chavakkad- Puthuponnani - Chmravattom - Tirur - Parappanangady - Ramanattukara to reach Kozhikode (Only 175 kms)

Whereas distance will be reduced only 10 kms , if you are taking - Ankamaly -Thrissur - Edappal - Chamravattom - Tirur - Kozhikode.

Once the proposed Coastal highway is become reality - We could be able to save at least 35kms through Chavakkad -Chamravattom route (165 kms)

The reports has some incorrect data - EKM (high court) - CLT(mananchira) distance is just above 200 kms , not 225 through NH 47 /17 and SH 69 - Thrissur- Kottakal.

The existing shortest route is 190 km, through kodungallur - Kuttipuram - Tirur - Parappanagady- Kozhikode.

Malayaali
May 9th, 2012, 09:30 PM
^^

Ok. Tirur gets direct connectivity to Ponnani!

keralite
May 9th, 2012, 10:03 PM
Distance and cost between Kozhikode and Ernakulam will reduce after the opening of Chamravattom bridge as KSRTC is planning to run buses through this bridge.

Source: Mathrubhumi

There was some report few years back remember reading Kochi-Mangalapuram distance can be reduced to 350kms. forgot the source. If We solve the traffic bottleneck in Malabar,Tulunad region. may be Cochin-Bombay Tourist Bus Services can be a possibility. it already exists from Mangalapuram.

RKPV
May 9th, 2012, 10:12 PM
^^ Once upon a time tourist buses to Bombay was there from every nuke and corner of North and Central Kerala. That was before establishing KIAL and CIAL

anumoth
May 10th, 2012, 06:09 AM
^^

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/medium/71804266.jpg

Source:RBDCK SITE(Old)

rkpai13
May 10th, 2012, 05:14 PM
^^

This would have been the best NH-17 route.

passionfruit12
May 10th, 2012, 06:31 PM
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2922/nhmm.jpg

From Manorama

krp
May 12th, 2012, 06:00 AM
http://www.mathrubhumi.com/online/malayalam/news/story/1599028/2012-05-12/kerala 12 May 2012 ദേശീയപാത -47-ല്* ചേര്*ത്തല മുതല്* ഓച്ചിറവരെ നാലുവരിയായി വികസിപ്പിക്കുന്നതിന് 114 ഹെക്ടര്* സ്ഥലം ഏറ്റെടുക്കാന്* കേന്ദ്ര ഉപരിതല ഗതാഗത മന്ത്രാലയത്തിന്റെ അനുമതിയായി. ഗസറ്റ് വിജ്ഞാപനം ഉടന്* ഉണ്ടാകും. പാത 45 മീറ്ററില്* വികസിപ്പിക്കുന്നതിന് വേണ്ടിയാണ് സ്ഥലം ഏറ്റെടുക്കുന്നത്. റോഡ് വികസിപ്പിക്കുന്നതിനൊപ്പം ഏട്ട് ടോള്* ഗേറ്റുകളും ഉണ്ടാകുമെന്നാണ് സൂചന. ഗസറ്റ് വിജ്ഞാപനം വന്നാല്* ആറ് മാസം കൊണ്ട് സ്ഥലം ഏറ്റെടുക്കും. കേരളത്തിലെ ദേശീയപാതകളുടെ വികസനത്തിനായി 900 ഹെക്ടര്* സ്ഥലമാണ് വേണ്ടിവരുന്നത്.
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Quraishie
May 13th, 2012, 05:49 PM
^^

Can anyone enlighten how the distance is reduced? Where does the new roads connect with the existing?

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/quraishie/A9.jpg
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/quraishie/a8.jpg
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/quraishie/A56-1.jpg

35 kms will be reduced in Ernakulam-Kozhikode route via Chamravattom bridge. More than one hour can be saved by this route. The ticket fare of bus also would be reduced by some Rs.15-20. :banana::banana:

http://www.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/localContentView.do?tabId=16&contentId=11579483&district=Malappuram&programId=1079897613&BV_ID=@@@

passionfruit12
May 13th, 2012, 07:07 PM
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/673/nh17mb.jpg

'Public' blocked the RDO against the land acquisition for nh17 widening.

From Mathrubhoomi

passionfruit12
May 13th, 2012, 07:13 PM
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1997/chamravattmb.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8321/chamra1mb.jpg

From Mathrubhoomi

passionfruit12
May 14th, 2012, 04:14 AM
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9132/nh17mm.jpg

From Manorama

DileepKS
May 14th, 2012, 07:02 AM
We went to Bengaluru for the weekend. Used a Tata Winger tourist version.

Saw 'indications of construction' of the Mannuthy-Vadakanchery section. Didn't see much activity though, maybe because it was weekend. Saw the approaches being built to the Kuthiran Tunnel on either side. Looks good. Saw a lot of nice, big houses being half/full demolished for the highway. Felt sorry for those folks who suffered the loss and inconvenience for the greater good.

Didn't see any appreciable work on the Vadakanchery-Walayar section.

The Walayar-Coimbatore section is progressing. The Coimbatore-Avinashi section is mostly done.

I have a big big gripe about the way they handle traffic on the 'almost finished' sections. They block up one side, and send the bidirectional traffic over one side. That is without any indication of lane marking, so vehicles go whichever place they please.

Not that having lane marks people will drive properly, but atleast there will be a visual cue.

The winger is an excellent vehicle. Felt as comfy as a standard sedan. Great ride and great AC.

mohammedirshad06
May 14th, 2012, 07:07 AM
We went to Bengaluru for the weekend. Used a Tata Winger tourist version.

Saw 'indications of construction' of the Mannuthy-Vadakanchery section. Didn't see much activity though, maybe because it was weekend. Saw the approaches being built to the Kuthiran Tunnel on either side. Looks good. Saw a lot of nice, big houses being half/full demolished for the highway. Felt sorry for those folks who suffered the loss and inconvenience for the greater good.

Didn't see any appreciable work on the Vadakanchery-Walayar section.

The Walayar-Coimbatore section is progressing. The Coimbatore-Avinashi section is mostly done.

I have a big big gripe about the way they handle traffic on the 'almost finished' sections. They block up one side, and send the bidirectional traffic over one side. That is without any indication of lane marking, so vehicles go whichever place they please.

Not that having lane marks people will drive properly, but atleast there will be a visual cue.

The winger is an excellent vehicle. Felt as comfy as a standard sedan. Great ride and great AC.


Once done, People from Central Kerala can vroommmmmm to Blore at the shortest possible....... Really great to hear the update....

The Quizzer
May 14th, 2012, 09:26 AM
My incidence with the Speed Radar.

Went to Iringal Craft Village (Near Payyoli) from Calicut on Saturday Morning with wife & Kid. Was driving @ less than 60 KMPL. The only time I drive more than 60 KMPL is when driving in Mannuthy-Angamaly strech. Somewhere before Payyoli a policeman on the kerb waved me down to stop my vehicle. Besides him was a Police jeep with speed radar. I noticed the police vehilce only when I saw the policeman.

I confidently came out of my car with "book & paper" when the SI (may be) told me that I was overspeeding. I was dumbstruck. He motioned me to go behind the police vehicle to see for myself. I found a policeman showing me a photo of my car in the laptop and pointing that I was driving @ 100 KMPL.

The funniest thing was that the photo showed that I was driving behind an auto. I argued (polietely) that I never overspeed and my wife and a two year old child is in the front seat. After some pleading the policeman accepted my version and said that the radar might have caught the speed of a swift driving in the opposite direction. (The photo on the laptop showed a swift driving in the opposite direction). I was allowed to go without any issues.

So Beware. Accept the guilt only if you are sure that you have oversped.

PPJ
May 14th, 2012, 10:08 AM
My incidence with the Speed Radar.

Went to Iringal Craft Village (Near Payyoli) from Calicut on Saturday Morning with wife & Kid. Was driving @ less than 60 KMPL. The only time I drive more than 60 KMPL is when driving in Mannuthy-Angamaly strech. Somewhere before Payyoli a policeman on the kerb waved me down to stop my vehicle. Besides him was a Police jeep with speed radar. I noticed the police vehilce only when I saw the policeman.

I confidently came out of my car with "book & paper" when the SI (may be) told me that I was overspeeding. I was dumbstruck. He motioned me to go behind the police vehicle to see for myself. I found a policeman showing me a photo of my car in the laptop and pointing that I was driving @ 100 KMPL.

The funniest thing was that the photo showed that I was driving behind an auto. I argued (polietely) that I never overspeed and my wife and a two year old child is in the front seat. After some pleading the policeman accepted my version and said that the radar might have caught the speed of a swift driving in the opposite direction. (The photo on the laptop showed a swift driving in the opposite direction). I was allowed to go without any issues.

So Beware. Accept the guilt only if you are sure that you have oversped.

Speed radar is good only if road is wide and kept in the median to the desired lane!. And I believe it should not be kept in the opposite direction of car movement. The police has used it wrongly.

Malayaali
May 14th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Speed radar is good only if road is wide and kept in the median to the desired lane!. And I believe it should not be kept in the opposite direction of car movement. The police has used it wrongly.

This is a funny incident. Not sure about the technicalities of the radars used there. What we have here in Dubai is spot on capture and that too multiple vehicles at a time.

passionfruit12
May 14th, 2012, 10:29 AM
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4873/deepikau.jpg

Link http://malayalam.deepikaglobal.com/News_Cat2_sub.aspx?catcode=cat2&newscode=213320

ഒന്നും മനസ്സിലായില്ല :nuts:

ajithv
May 14th, 2012, 12:17 PM
^^

Hope this (http://www.nhai.org/act1956.htm) will help you !

Long way to reach 3D as far as Kerala is concerned. ;)

ajithv
May 14th, 2012, 01:32 PM
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4873/deepikau.jpg

Link http://malayalam.deepikaglobal.com/News_Cat2_sub.aspx?catcode=cat2&newscode=213320

Among these, the Thalappady-Kannur stretch is in the advanced stage in NHAI procedures, barring the land acquisition. NHAI has invited RFP for the Independent Engineer Services (Independent Consultant) for the project. In malabar area, this stretch may face least opposition in land acquisition compared to the remaining till Edappally.

Aslesh
May 14th, 2012, 02:11 PM
^^ But there is protest in that region too. Land was acquired in 30m width in Kannur-Mangalore stretch during late 80s and early 90s. Now they are not ready to give further land. Situation is similar to Trivandrum-Ernakulam stretch.

Where as between Kannur-Kozhikode stretch width is around 10-15ms except for Muzhappilangad and Mahe-Vadakara sections. In Muzhappilangad only 30m is available so there is protest against further acquisition. I think there is no problem in Mahe-Vadakara stretch as enough width is available. For Kannur bypass issue is only about alignments and not about width. Thalassery bypass land was marked in 45m width during 70s itself. So there are no issue there. From Vadakara to Kozhikode it's completely fresh acquisition.

ajithv
May 14th, 2012, 03:32 PM
^^
Yes.What I said is the minimum protest in that area.There are problematic areas too.Not denying that.I personally know this when I've visited these areas. Most of the people are in support with the widening of NH than the other areas esp beyond Neeleswaram towards Thalappady. After Kanjangad people were more supportive.

The case is entirely different for the Trivandrum-TN Border as it is entirely new alignment including the existing one upto Kovalam. Here, the land has already available for 45m decades back till Kottukal, barring some pockets of land where the land value were left for assessment upto Kovalam and now it is in progress. If the present pace of procedures are considered, we can expect the tendering process to start in months to come for this stretch.

Hence, the competition will be between the northern and southern ends of Kerala.The dream of vrooming of people from central Kerala through Walayar will be delayed for obvious reasons. ;)

Aslesh
May 14th, 2012, 05:07 PM
North of Kanhangad is sparsely populated. There are not many houses on both sides of the highway. LA won't be problem there. Protest will be there south of Kanhangad. I read somewhere they can start construction if half of the length is acquired. In that case they can start from north and rest can be acquired slowly after negotiations.

ajithv
May 14th, 2012, 06:45 PM
^^
Previously it was like that.The existing highway+50% additional land is enough for award the work and the remaining 50% of the additional land has to be handed over to the NHAI & to the Concessioanire within one year of the appointed date.Most of the time irrespective of states, the state govts fails to do so.Subsequently, NHAI had to pay the Concessionaire per sq.m rate/per day of loss of work. Hence, nowadays eventhough that is the case NHAI giving contract only after the state govts. handover +80-85% additional land to NHAI. As you said north of Kanjangad is less populated and have more barren land.Also, further towards north after Kasargod, the one side boundary at many places is Railway Line. Obviously, one sided LA is a must and people are aware of that in that area.

Anyhow, once started it will go on. :)

naveenpf
May 15th, 2012, 06:58 AM
Kerala government constitutes firm for infra development
Infrawindow News Bureau
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Kochi
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Apr. 15, 2012, 05:30 PM

Kerala government constitutes firm for infra developmentIn a bid to implement Rs 5,100 crore state road improvement projects, the Kerala government has constituted Road Infrastructure Company Kerala Ltd, reports TOI.

VK Ebrahimkunju, PWD minister said that the roads for the project have already been selected. The project is for upgradation of Rs 1,286 crore state highways and district roads to international standards. In this regard, the state government has arrived at an understanding with the World Bank on a Rs 2,942 crore project for the maintenance and reconstruction of the roads.

Accordingly, bridges and roads (367 km) will be upgraded. Maintenance of roads (around 1,000 km) will also be undertaken. PWD will prepare an assets registry of the department.

P H Kurien, principal secretary, PWD, said, “The physical version of the registry will be complete in three months. Then, it will be transformed into electronic format.''

For the second phase of Seaport-Airport, land acquisition process has been started. The PWD manual has been modified after 40 years of its introduction.

http://www.infrawindow.com/news/kerala-government-constitutes-firm-for-infra-development_2559/

Company to develop 4000Kms+ State Highways in Kerala.
Hope they will have a program like NHDP or Karnataka State Highways Improvement Project http://www.kship.org/

passionfruit12
May 15th, 2012, 12:54 PM
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/478/chamramm.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3699/chamramm1.jpg

Chamravattom bridge is ready for inauguration. :banana:

From Manorama

maheshponneth
May 15th, 2012, 01:54 PM
^^ how will this influence the development of Palakkad Dt?:)

Aslesh
May 15th, 2012, 05:13 PM
^^ how will this influence the development of Palakkad Dt?:)

Through irrigation. This is an irrigation project under Irrigation Dept.

keralite
May 15th, 2012, 06:14 PM
Chamravattom Regulator-cum Bridge
^^Any distance saved for commuters from MC Road(Kottayam,Muvattupuzha) to Kozhikode?

Aslesh
May 16th, 2012, 09:07 AM
^^Any distance saved for commuters from MC Road(Kottayam,Muvattupuzha) to Kozhikode?

I don't think so. May be 5-10 kms. They should upgrade the coastal road in KSTP standard before using it so extensively. Now there will be so many traffic blocks and people will come back to NH. NH from Kuttippuram to Kozhikode is in good condition. There a few curves but no traffic bottle necks. It's very comfortable to drive compared to Kozhikode-Kannur NH which is the worst section.

Malayaali
May 17th, 2012, 10:03 AM
Chamravattom RCB to be inaugurated today

40km reduction in Kochi-Calicut journey

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1105/3097414642184.jpg
cc: Manorama

passionfruit12
May 17th, 2012, 05:06 PM
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/1083/chamra2mm.jpg

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7766/chamra1mm.jpg

From Manorama

passionfruit12
May 17th, 2012, 05:06 PM
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/478/chamramm.jpg

From Manorama

RKPV
May 17th, 2012, 11:16 PM
Passing through Vyttila, it is 20km less for commuters from Kottayam and Changanassey , But from Pala, Muvattupuzha - no advantage.

^^Any distance saved for commuters from MC Road(Kottayam,Muvattupuzha) to Kozhikode?

ajithv
May 18th, 2012, 03:57 AM
No Comments ;)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8629/tvmroadsme.jpg

Source: Metro Manorama

anumoth
May 18th, 2012, 07:15 AM
Passing through Vyttila, it is 20km less for commuters from Kottayam and Changanassey , But from Pala, Muvattupuzha - no advantage.

From Muvattupuzha one can get to the coastal highway through Potta - Irinjalakkuda - Moonnupeedika and thus save some Kms and more importantly skip Thrissur town.

keralite
May 18th, 2012, 08:32 AM
From Muvattupuzha one can get to the coastal highway through Potta - Irinjalakkuda - Moonnupeedika and thus save some Kms and more importantly skip Thrissur town.
It is impractical for a long distance commuters passing through narrow heavy traffic regions(Iringalakuda) unless highway is widened. Muvattupuzha to Kozhikode is 204kms.

develop Muvattupuzha,Ponjassery,Aluva to Paravur Highway which can be helpful?
North Parur to Muvattupuzha is 49kms through Aluva,Ponjassery(skipping Perumbavur).

DileepKS
May 18th, 2012, 11:16 AM
No Comments ;)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8629/tvmroadsme.jpg

Source: Metro Manorama

Title says അഞ്ചാമത്, and article says രണ്ടാമത്. Which is true?

It is an evaluation among 19 roads built by IL&FS, and the parameters, as per the article, are "difficulty is construction" and "fulfillment of social responsibility". That doesn't really support the claim in the title.

RajeshVR
May 18th, 2012, 11:36 AM
Title says അഞ്ചാമത്, and article says രണ്ടാമത്. Which is true?

It is an evaluation among 19 roads built by IL&FS, and the parameters, as per the article, are "difficulty is construction" and "fulfillment of social responsibility". That doesn't really support the claim in the title.

^^
Both are True!
Among the road construction in India Trivandrum Roads are in 5th position.
Among the model of project , This projest stands second.

DileepKS
May 18th, 2012, 11:41 AM
^^Thanks for the clarification. It sure is a well built road, and well executed project. We just wish the same happens with our little CCRIP too. :)

vjfile
May 18th, 2012, 12:49 PM
No Comments ;)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8629/tvmroadsme.jpg

Source: Metro Manorama

Truly International Standard Road it is !! :cheers:

Let us hope other Kerala cities follow the path of the capital...

DileepKS
May 18th, 2012, 01:44 PM
^^It is the state govt that runs the CRIP programme, not the cities. The cities are still shackled by the old rules of paving with chipping carpet etc. So, even if a city admin wants it, and (miraculously) gets the money, they aren't allowedto build a good quality road. Here at Kochi, we thank god for simple mercies like DMRC who could use better specs.

So, your hope is, well, hopeless. Hope for the state govt to do the same thing for other cities. That would be a better realistic hope.

Quraishie
May 19th, 2012, 10:04 AM
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/quraishie/a78.jpg
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/quraishie/a98.jpg
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/quraishie/a85.jpg

Quraishie
May 19th, 2012, 10:13 AM
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/quraishie/a325.jpg

Commuters at Guruvayur chose KSRTC for Kozhikode journey on the first day, which resulted in a dispute in Guruvayur bus station. The private bus lobby is strictly against these services; as they are scared of the fare differences.
Kozhikode fare for KSRTC is Rs. 53 only and for private buses the same is Rs. 72.

Malayaali
May 19th, 2012, 11:02 AM
Proposal for North - South Expressway

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4851/39821142561144412536910.jpg
cc: Mathrubhumi

RajeshVR
May 19th, 2012, 11:04 AM
Good News :)

ajithv
May 19th, 2012, 11:46 AM
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7421/720kmrdkk.jpg

Centre approved the development of 720km of village roads in Kerala.

Source: Kerala Kaumudi

simpliCITY
May 19th, 2012, 11:51 AM
http://i47.tinypic.com/a1hgjq.jpg
KSRTC opening new Eranakulam- Kozhikode, Kozhikode- Guruvayoor, Thiroor- Ponnani routes.

Aslesh
May 19th, 2012, 12:27 PM
Are these routes nationalized? :|

rajkrish
May 19th, 2012, 03:47 PM
No Comments ;)

Source: Metro Manorama

Superb roads indeed :cheers:

Malayaali
May 19th, 2012, 05:35 PM
Kuttippuram bridge across Nila

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/536146_377679375602593_251857351518130_1023000_1311954129_n.jpg

ajithv
May 19th, 2012, 06:10 PM
^^

View from top of KTDC Building ?

Malayaali
May 19th, 2012, 06:48 PM
^^

View from top of KTDC Building ?

Is there a KTDC building there?

Anyway i feel there is no building at this height, might be taken from any tower.

anumoth
May 19th, 2012, 07:00 PM
Is there a KTDC building there?

Anyway i feel there is no building at this height, might be taken from any tower.

Yes. KTDC Motel Aaram. It is on a hill overlooking the bridge.

Malayaali
May 19th, 2012, 07:50 PM
Yes. KTDC Motel Aaram. It is on a hill.

Oh yeah, i thought this is the other side near Kuttippuram town :)

rkpai13
May 19th, 2012, 08:36 PM
Nice one...

sudheeshnairs
May 19th, 2012, 09:31 PM
^^

View from top of KTDC Building ?

I have been to that KTDC Motel in 2000 while driving back from Wayanad. I have a photo too if the bridge. Don't think the a shot this much high would be possible from that building. Could be an aerial photo

ajithv
May 20th, 2012, 05:11 AM
^^

What I said is the view is from the top of the KTDC building as it is situated on a hillock.

Fastandfurious1989
May 20th, 2012, 06:39 AM
is there any possibility of widening thrissur high road??

Malayaali
May 20th, 2012, 08:31 AM
Don't think the a shot this much high would be possible from that building. Could be an aerial photo

Yeah. Even though it is located on a hill, i don't think it's that tall to get a snap like this. This might be taken from any tower or copter.

Malayaali
May 20th, 2012, 09:27 AM
http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/4796/262131.jpg
cc: Mathrubhumi

sudheeshnairs
May 20th, 2012, 01:50 PM
^^

What I said is the view is from the top of the KTDC building as it is situated on a hillock.

No Ajith, it would never be this height. It is just a hillock and you climb the stairs straight from the road.

See my workplace is on the 30th floor (equivalent to a 45 floor res building) The view I get there is almost similar to this view. There is remote chance of a tower also there this high. So most probably this would be from a chopper.

ajithv
May 22nd, 2012, 06:39 AM
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2938/mcroadmm.jpg

Source: Malayala Manorama

DileepKS
May 22nd, 2012, 07:25 AM
^^Good news.

But calling a 15M wide road with 7.5M carriageway to be "similar to express highway" would be too much of poetic license IMO.

keralite
May 22nd, 2012, 07:37 AM
thing to look forward is whether MC road alignment between Muvattupuzha and Koothattukulam shifted to Arakkuzha,Pandappilly route through plains instead of Ghat sector through Marady-Meenkunnam-Aaroor. it will be the best thing to happen for MC road. also saves 3kilometers.

It was through Arakkuzha the Original MC road Alignment proposed a century Ago.(read in mathrubhumi)

After Murikkallu bridge across Muvattupuzha River completed, MC Road commuters can bypass Muvattupuzha town and from KSRTC Junction, take the Bridge route to reach Kadathi-Vazhappilly towards Perumbavur. but, these projects are in limbo for many years. much useful if Perumbavur and Muvattupuzha Bypasses given priority.

ajithv
May 22nd, 2012, 08:06 AM
One more City Road Improvement Project soon !...The project titled "DPR & Engineering Design for Thrissur City Road Improvement Project" started. ;) (A part of Urban Infrastructure development project in Thrissur City)

Malayaali
May 22nd, 2012, 11:30 AM
^^Good news.

But calling a 15M wide road with 7.5M carriageway to be "similar to express highway" would be too much of poetic license IMO.
+ 1

When i read the first para, i got exited about the 1st expressway in our state.

It's a blunder to call a 2 way road similar to an expressway. Have these guys seen an 'Expressway'?!!!

DileepKS
May 22nd, 2012, 11:37 AM
Have these guys seen an 'Expressway'?!!!

Unlikely!!

But even though it is just 2 lane, the road quality of the KSTP built Mc road segments is great. As good as any 2 lane highway in the developed world.

Malayaali
May 22nd, 2012, 11:55 AM
^^

Yeah, the carpeting quality has increased tremendously in the last few years.

Contractors and Engineers have better options for loot ;)

ajithv
May 22nd, 2012, 12:26 PM
^^

FYI, There is no term or activity called 'carpeting' in any of the aided projects like KSTP as do in other PWD works.

Malayaali
May 22nd, 2012, 02:45 PM
^^

FYI, There is no term or activity called 'carpeting' in any of the aided projects like KSTP as do in other PWD works.

So?? :colbert:

PS: Sudheesh, can i know why you removed this earlier?

sudheeshnairs
May 22nd, 2012, 03:09 PM
^^You didn't understand why??? When there is no activity like 'carpeting' in KSTP projects, the question of its quality increasing over the last few years doesn't arise!!

It is snippet of technical information, that is what fora like SSC are for! Take it or leave it.. And not for replying as if to "question the guy sharing some knowledge' or being indifferent to it.

It is better if you get rid of this habit. It is not only for you, for others also.

Malayaali
May 22nd, 2012, 03:19 PM
Did i do any wrong there. It's great that the other person shared some info. But what has that to do with deleting the post, which wasn't a taunt or treating ill??

sudheeshnairs
May 22nd, 2012, 05:22 PM
Did i do any wrong there. It's great that the other person shared some info. But what has that to do with deleting the post, which wasn't a taunt or treating ill??

Yes, your attitude was wrong. Hope you know English reasonably well, if not please learn. Posing a question 'So?' with an emoticon of closed arms is indeed a taunt.

Better be cautious in future..

Again, we mods are not bound to give answers/ explanations to you for our actions, it is solely our prerogative.

krp
May 22nd, 2012, 05:23 PM
-del-

maheshponneth
May 23rd, 2012, 01:48 PM
One more City Road Improvement Project soon !...The project titled "DPR & Engineering Design for Thrissur City Road Improvement Project" started. ;) (A part of Urban Infrastructure development project in Thrissur City)

good news. could u give me its source link?

sudheeshnairs
May 23rd, 2012, 02:51 PM
^^Confidential, it is not a third party knowledge, but would be a first party information. ;)

ajithv
May 23rd, 2012, 05:30 PM
good news. could u give me its source link?
Unfortunately there is no link for this source.Fortunately I'm the link of source now.:)
Confidential, it is not a third party knowledge, but would be a first party information. ;)
:okay:

Aslesh
May 23rd, 2012, 07:38 PM
One more City Road Improvement Project soon !...The project titled "DPR & Engineering Design for Thrissur City Road Improvement Project" started. ;) (A part of Urban Infrastructure development project in Thrissur City)

More had been announced. Kannur, Malappuram and Kottayam CRIPs were also announced by minister along with Thrissur. May be they will follow soon.

naveenpf
May 24th, 2012, 02:08 AM
Good news for
State Highway 22 (Kerala): This highway connects Kodungallur in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Palakkad District.
State Highway 49 (Kerala): This highway connects Guruvayoor in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Choondal.
State Highway 50 (Kerala): This highway connects Chavakkad in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Wadakkancherry.
State Highway 51 (Kerala): This highway connects Kodakara in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Kodungallur in Thrissur Metropolitan Area.
State Highway 58 (Kerala): This highway connects Vadakkancherry in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Pollachi in Tamil Nadu.
State Highway 59 (Kerala): Hill Highway (Kerala) connects parts of hilly areas in Thrissur Metropolitan Area
State Highway 61 (Kerala): This highway connects Potta in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Moonupeedika Road.
State Highway 62 (Kerala): This highway connects Guruvayoor in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Kundukadavu.
State Highway 69 (Kerala): This highway connects Thrissur City to Thavanoor in Malappuram.
State Highway 75 (Kerala): This highway connects Thrissur City to Vadanappally in Thrissur Metropolitan Area
State Highway 76 (Kerala): This highway connects Kuruvanchery in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Kecheri in Thrissur Metropolitan Area.
State Highway 77 (Kerala): This highway connects Lakkidi Road in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Palakkad District.


or is it only for city corporation roads ?

More had been announced. Kannur, Malappuram and Kottayam CRIPs were also announced by minister along with Thrissur. May be they will follow soon.

naveenpf
May 24th, 2012, 02:10 AM
Edappally-Muvattupuzha road to be made State Highway

The 40-km road will be then eligible for more funds

The government will take steps to upgrade the Edappally-Muvattupuzha Road into a State highway, since it passes through commercially important areas and provides crucial connectivity from the city to areas east of it, Minister for Public Works V. K. Ibrahim Kunju has said.

Once it is declared as a State highway, more funds will be made available for enhancing the quality of the 40-km road.

This would provide a fresh link to Muvattupuzha from the city.

Mr. Kunju was speaking here on Monday after handing over Rs 1.04 crore as compensation to 10 people who surrendered their land for widening the Kangarapady Junction. The widening of the junction is seen as the first step to begin works to widen and upgrade the Edappally-Muvattupuzha Road. The 4-metre-wide road that passes through the junction will be widened to 30 metres, for a distance of 250 metres.

The PWD would acquire a total of over 1.5 acres of land from over 100 land owners, at the junction. The compensation to others would be handed over on the basis of registration.

The four-laning of the junction is expected to cost Rs 15.73 crore and will be over in six months' time. An amount of Rs 13.42 crore has been handed over to the Revenue Department for land acquisition. A scheme has been readied with the help of the government and Kalamassery municipality to rehabilitate the people who surrender their land. The government would set apart 50 cents of land for the purpose. They would be rehabilitated in a total of over an acre of land, where a shopping complex would be built.

Mr. Kunju said that the government aims to ensure social welfare, alongside the development of infrastructure. District Collector P.I. Sheik Pareed said that the widening of the narrow junction would be included in the fast-track scheme.

Ninety three shops and houses would be dismantled for the project.

Footpaths will be built on either side and drains constructed for the smooth flow of rain water. The municipal chairman Jamal Manakkadan presided over the function.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Kochi/article3448750.ece

rkpai13
May 25th, 2012, 03:34 AM
Article on sad state of NH 17 through Ernakulam District

http://epaper.mathrubhumi.com/epaperimages/2352012/2352012-md-ek-1/2511593.JPG
-- Death toll is very high on this route due to lack of width through the district

http://epaper.mathrubhumi.com/epaperimages/2452012/2452012-md-ek-2/3444593.JPG
-- Basic safety measures not taken have added to the chaos through the road.

http://epaper.mathrubhumi.com/epaperimages/2552012/2552012-md-ek-2/3117953.JPG
-- Development of the road was out of track since the declaration itself.


Mathrubhumi

DileepKS
May 25th, 2012, 03:44 AM
^^The only viable solution is for the state govt to take it over and build using the available 30M ROW

ajithv
May 25th, 2012, 07:25 AM
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9564/bypassmm.jpg

Source: Malayala Manorama

ajithv
May 25th, 2012, 07:25 AM
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/771/bypass1mm.jpg

Source: Malayala Manorama

maheshponneth
May 27th, 2012, 10:30 AM
Good news for
State Highway 22 (Kerala): This highway connects Kodungallur in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Palakkad District.
State Highway 49 (Kerala): This highway connects Guruvayoor in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Choondal.
State Highway 50 (Kerala): This highway connects Chavakkad in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Wadakkancherry.
State Highway 51 (Kerala): This highway connects Kodakara in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Kodungallur in Thrissur Metropolitan Area.
State Highway 58 (Kerala): This highway connects Vadakkancherry in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Pollachi in Tamil Nadu.
State Highway 59 (Kerala): Hill Highway (Kerala) connects parts of hilly areas in Thrissur Metropolitan Area
State Highway 61 (Kerala): This highway connects Potta in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Moonupeedika Road.
State Highway 62 (Kerala): This highway connects Guruvayoor in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Kundukadavu.
State Highway 69 (Kerala): This highway connects Thrissur City to Thavanoor in Malappuram.
State Highway 75 (Kerala): This highway connects Thrissur City to Vadanappally in Thrissur Metropolitan Area
State Highway 76 (Kerala): This highway connects Kuruvanchery in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Kecheri in Thrissur Metropolitan Area.
State Highway 77 (Kerala): This highway connects Lakkidi Road in Thrissur Metropolitan Area to Palakkad District.


or is it only for city corporation roads ?
strictly confidential:lol:, so no idea

FRANKTHRISSUR
May 27th, 2012, 10:32 AM
[IMG]http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5883/76650012.jpg http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8124/76650013.jpg
civil lanes road(model road), ayyanthole, trichur

Malayaali
May 27th, 2012, 10:34 AM
^^

Road looks superb, footpaths doesn't.

FRANKTHRISSUR
May 27th, 2012, 10:39 AM
BYPASS ROAD AT NADATHARA, TRICHUR
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/66262792.jpg

maheshponneth
May 27th, 2012, 10:39 AM
^^

Road looks superb, footpaths doesn't.

That is due to the some people's nature. They made strong arguments to pass their cars into their house. They did not allow to raise the footpath in each gate 1 ft. The gate, in which Ambassador is parked, is the gate of Therambil Ramakrishnan(MLA and former speaker). He also did not notice this ups and downs.

FRANKTHRISSUR
May 27th, 2012, 10:42 AM
VIYYUR JN. MEDICAL COLLAGE RAOD ,TRICHUR
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Thrissur-Shornur_Road_2.jpg/800px-Thrissur-Shornur_Road_2.jpg

Malayaali
May 27th, 2012, 10:47 AM
That is due to the some people's nature. They made strong arguments to pass their cars into their house. They did not allow to raise the footpath in each gate 1 ft. The gate, in which Ambassador is parked, is the gate of Therambil Ramakrishnan(MLA and former speaker). He also did not notice this ups and downs.

Ups and Down on Footpath is fine. There is no rule that Footpath should be a horizontal axis. But the ups and downs should be neatly built.

maheshponneth
May 27th, 2012, 10:59 AM
^^ correct.

DileepKS
May 27th, 2012, 02:49 PM
There is a standard for connecting driveways over sidewalks to roadways. I haven't seen anything close being implemented anywhere in Kerala. Maybe TCRIP roads did. Maybe Sudheesh can confirm. What I have seen around is just to give a gap in the sidewalk.

sudheeshnairs
May 27th, 2012, 03:00 PM
I haven't seen anything close being implemented anywhere in Kerala. Maybe TCRIP roads did. Maybe Sudheesh can confirm.

Rather than me, Ajith would be the right person as he was involved as a consultant.

And AFAIK, TCRIP roads are modelled on Singapore standards and is 'wheel chair' friendly too..:-)

DileepKS
May 27th, 2012, 03:14 PM
Rather than me, Ajith would be the right person as he was involved as a consultant.

And AFAIK, TCRIP roads are modelled on Singapore standards and is 'wheel chair' friendly too..:-)

You posted photos in the past. That is why I asked. If you (or any other photo enthusiasts like Ajith or VJ) got photos of sidewalk merging, please post.

ajithv
May 27th, 2012, 06:07 PM
As Sudheesh mentioned, the footpath constructed under TCRIP is wheelchair friendly as the height of the footpath is very less. Generally there were no provision made for individuals property entry/exit. Eventhen some individuals made ramp fro their convenience and in 'some rare cases' the height is reduced to half. Will search out for some examples and post here later. :)

ajithv
May 27th, 2012, 10:24 PM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7990/bypasskk.jpg

Source: Kerala Kaumudi

ajithv
May 28th, 2012, 12:41 AM
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9564/bypassmm.jpg

Source: Malayala Manorama

DileepKS
May 28th, 2012, 04:56 AM
What exactly is meant by "wheelchair friendly"? Could you explain/show example?

Viveks
May 28th, 2012, 06:44 AM
What exactly is meant by "wheelchair friendly"? Could you explain/show example?

അവനവനു തന്നെ ഉരുട്ടി കയറ്റാം എന്ന് തോന്നുന്നു...

sudheeshnairs
May 28th, 2012, 07:20 AM
What exactly is meant by "wheelchair friendly"? Could you explain/show example?

I think you should have heard or known about the concept ‘handicapped’ or ‘wheel chair’ friendly. If you happen to work with the new age companies, work in modern offices or lived/visited some of the countries of developed world, you should be knowing it.:)

In India we now do follow these practices in modern offices or shopping malls, hotels or even metro stations, where a handicapped person who is confined to wheel chair can move around and engage in activities just like a normal person through properly designed ramps, elevators, toilets etc.

When you extend this to the public roads and cities they become ‘wheel chair friendly’ too. If you just ‘google’ you may get answers.

This link will give you some examples of how sidewalks should be designed for pedestrian and disabled friendly.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/bicycle_pedestrian/publications/sidewalks/chap4a.cfm

DileepKS
May 28th, 2012, 07:50 AM
^^I know what "wheelchair friendly" is. I lived six years in one of the most stringently regulated environment of "differently abled access". I have a general, user level knowledge on that.

Let me re-phase my question.

In the context of TCRIP roads being "wheelchair friendly", could you explain what level/form of compliance is maintained? Could you explain/show example? A web search did not turn up any info.

Viveks, I would request you to take your sarcasm elsewhere, because it is not going to cut with me.

sudheeshnairs
May 28th, 2012, 09:19 AM
^^I know what "wheelchair friendly" is. I lived six years in one of the most stringently regulated environment of "differently abled access". I have a general, user level knowledge on that.

Let me re-phase my question. .

Ok, so it was the issue of your question being open ended and not able to communicate properly what you intended.

In the context of TCRIP roads being "wheelchair friendly", could you explain what level/form of compliance is maintained? Could you explain/show example? A web search did not turn up any info. .

The level/form of compliance as far as pedestrian/disabled friendliness is considered are factors like the height of the kerb, paved sidewalks, rounded off/sloped entry and exits which help a person on a wheel chair to negotiate them on his own. Infact I have not seen this kind of standards adopted in any of the public streets of Indian cities. Only in gated communities we find this kind of standards adopted and of course countries like Singapore or those in Europe/US or Middle East. I am also not sure whether this is enforced uniformly across the whole 42 km TCRIP stretch as the work is not fully complete with some nit bits here and there in busy commercial areas, but the most of the stretches I have seen has followed that.

Viveks, I would request you to take your sarcasm elsewhere, because it is not going to cut with me.

What he has written in Malayalam is exactly the answer. A wheel chair bound person would be able to tread by himself over the sidewalks.

Anyway there is no need for that smiley. Vivek, it is better not to repeat the same.

maheshponneth
May 28th, 2012, 10:15 AM
As Sudheesh mentioned, the footpath constructed under TCRIP is wheelchair friendly as the height of the footpath is very less. Generally there were no provision made for individuals property entry/exit. Eventhen some individuals made ramp fro their convenience and in 'some rare cases' the height is reduced to half. Will search out for some examples and post here later. :)

+1The example is the model road thrissur. When the first stage's work is started, they constructed the footpath as we have seen in the above pic. but on the second stage, as you said, the height is reduced to half to pass the resident's cars.

DileepKS
May 28th, 2012, 10:21 AM
The level/form of compliance as far as pedestrian/disabled friendliness is considered are factors like the height of the kerb, paved sidewalks, rounded off/sloped entry and exits which help a person on a wheel chair to negotiate them on his own. Infact I have not seen this kind of standards adopted in any of the public streets of Indian cities. Only in gated communities we find this kind of standards adopted and of course countries like Singapore or those in Europe/US or Middle East. I am also not sure whether this is enforced uniformly across the whole 42 km TCRIP stretch as the work is not fully complete with some nit bits here and there in busy commercial areas, but the most of the stretches I have seen has followed that.

Exactly my concern.

A sidewalk being "Wheelchair friendly" should include proper merging of driveways, and also things like ramps for entering the roadway for crossing the roads. This being something new, and should serve as a model, I would definitely like to have more details of what is being done on TCRIP.

Can someone do a photodoc on this?

loveclt
May 28th, 2012, 10:34 AM
just check the following link...!! there are some pics of TCRIP road..!!
http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/tcrip-a-new-link-to-nh-bypass-developed/

http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dscn0071.jpg?w=640&h=480

http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dscn0072.jpg?w=640&h=480

http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dscn0073.jpg?w=640&h=480

http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dscn0074.jpg?w=640&h=480

http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dscn0075.jpg?w=640&h=480

http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dscn0076.jpg?w=640&h=480

http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dscn0077.jpg?w=640&h=480

http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dscn0078.jpg?w=640&h=480

http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/subhash-nagar-road1.jpg?w=640&h=369

PPJ
May 28th, 2012, 11:39 AM
Hope they dont make this as the model road!.There is nothing special from other roads. Only thing is height of the pedestarian walkway is low. But the walkway is too narrow.

This is something similar to use of "interstate bus stand" terminology in kerala. Hears good but practically useless.

DileepKS
May 28th, 2012, 11:53 AM
I would say it is a good start having low profile sidewalks, because you can in fact break your leg by falling off the walkways here in Kochi. They are so high!!

Still, just having a low profile sidewalk doesn't make it "wheelchair friendly". It is just one of the elements.

Malayaali
May 28th, 2012, 11:54 AM
Hope they dont make this as the model road!.There is nothing special from other roads. Only thing is height of the pedestarian walkway is low. But the walkway is too narrow.

I don't understand how a low profile footpath is a specialty? I believe that's a faulty design. In order to be 'Wheelchair-Friendly' it is no rule that the whole stretch should be made like that. This will pave way for more serious accidents.

PPJ
May 28th, 2012, 12:19 PM
I didnt mean to be special, just told the apparent difference. BTW as u asid, for wheel chair friendly do the whole walk way needs to be low profile? Ideally pedestrians are supposed to cross the roads only at zebra crossing in city roads. Better put handrails and provide a gap only at places where crossing the road is safe and that part can be made wheel chair friendly.

I am not sure if anyone in wheelchair will really use such roads or benefit from it.

ajithv
May 28th, 2012, 12:36 PM
Hope they dont make this as the model road!.There is nothing special from other roads. Only thing is height of the pedestarian walkway is low. But the walkway is too narrow.
There is nothing special for a person who don't have any idea about this particular road.This was a very narrow road previously, maintained by 'PWD'.
Isn't a ~2m walkway not sufficient for a where land constraints & having less pedestrian movements?
I would say it is a good start having low profile sidewalks, because you can in fact break your leg by falling off the walkways here in Kochi. They are so high!!
Not only there, almost all cities/towns in Kerala having the same situation and in some other states too.

Still, just having a low profile sidewalk doesn't make it "wheelchair friendly". It is just one of the elements.
Neither me nor Sudheesh told this element alone make "wheelchair friendly".See the picture below (near to the Fuel Station), which I searched in quick .Hope this will clear to some extend and no need for an explanation.I think few more pictures with closer look were posted by the forumer 'Xeno Axe'.

Towards AKG Centre

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8279/img6562u.jpg

Shot Using Canon PowerShot S5 IS (http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2572/s5is02.jpg) on 08.09.2011
I don't understand how a low profile footpath is a specialty?
What to do?Can't help. Experience it, will understand!
I believe that's a faulty design.
Good find..No need to believe it as a faulty design,else let's stop the discussions here.
In order to be 'Wheelchair-Friendly' it is no rule that the whole stretch should be made like that.
Nowhere it is mentioned that these type of footpaths are made exclusively for "Wheelchair friendly" but are to other factors.You may know the other factors/difficulties also if you ever been a pedestrian on footpaths.
This will pave way for more serious accidents.
Please elaborate or specify.

ajithv
May 28th, 2012, 12:42 PM
I didnt mean to be special, just told the apparent difference. BTW as u asid, for wheel chair friendly do the whole walk way needs to be low profile?
See the reply above.
Ideally pedestrians are supposed to cross the roads only at zebra crossing in city roads. Better put handrails and provide a gap only at places where crossing the road is safe and that part can be made wheel chair friendly.
I'm sure these snaps where taken before the handrails were fixed.The fixing of handrails are still under progress in many parts of the roads under TCRIP "with so many objections".

I am not sure if anyone in wheelchair will really use such roads or benefit from it.
Do you cross the road only at specified pedestrain crossings? If not provided why not provided, if provided why provided.:nuts:

Malayaali
May 28th, 2012, 12:45 PM
^^

I think the above picture solves much of the doubts raised here.

The Footpath, there, has a decent minimum height so that the vehicles doesn't cross the shoulder easily out of control. I believed the whole stretch is made with a very low profile footpath, which is a faulty design as vehicles, out of control, can crossover to cause accidents.

sudheeshnairs
May 28th, 2012, 12:57 PM
^^I doubt whether you have any idea regarding the designing of foot paths.

I think everybody here is confused that the low height is for ‘wheel chairs’ to climb from the carriageway to the foot path.

And if you check all the city roads/ stree of the developed world, the footpaths are of similar height, paved with tiles; be it Singapore, Dubai or Frankfurt. IT IS NOT A FAULTY DESIGN.

We had a similar discussion some time back. I had posted pics with comparison with the roads of Singapore in some thread. Need to dig it out, will do it when I get time.

Viveks
May 28th, 2012, 01:03 PM
Those who are still unaware about the pedestrian friendly footpaths coming under TCRIP, please have a look into the below pic... :)

http://i46.tinypic.com/650dut.jpg

Hope it clarifies...

ajithv
May 28th, 2012, 01:26 PM
We had a similar discussion some time back. I had posted pics with comparison with the roads of Singapore in some thread. Need to dig it out, will do it when I get time.
Yes. I remember ;)...It was here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=400311&page=66)

sudheeshnairs
May 28th, 2012, 01:35 PM
^^Thanks Ajith; BTW comparison pics comes on the next page..here

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=400311&page=67

I am quoting the relevants/points from that page:

As Scorpio said, the kerb heights, including that of central median are all based on developed world standards. One of my friends had been direclty involved in design and execution of this project and he was telling that Mr. Babu Jacob IAS who was involved in TCRIP had taken Singapore as the model before implementing it here. And as Scorpio said, this is a pedestrian/wheel chair friendly standards and may not be exactly like our typical Indian systems.

See some pictures shot by me from Singapore. See the height of the kerbs.

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2240/img0270a.jpg (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/img0270a.jpg/)

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For urban sections, even in India, now the standards followed is like this: Height of the divider: 0.40 m; Bottom width: 0.45m, top width: 0.25m. These are ‘Kerb Stones’ on top of which ‘Delineators’ can be mounted (Flexi or Rigid) with reflective stickers to prevent vehicles from crossing over, if required.

The concept of Delineators was mentioned by Indian Sun and one picture was posted by Xeno Axe.

You may also notice that during heavy rains water from the road might get on to footpath as I don't see any provisions for drain holes aleast in those pics hopefully they are there.

Nandan has answered you, but anyway I will mark those gully traps with gratings marked in red. And the carriageway would be having a gradient of 2.5% to enable easy run off of water.

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The central median should have been at least 3 times the width and about .5m in height. This is required from a safety perspective to discourage people from crossing the road anywhere they can and also prevent a vehicle from going over the median onto the other side. IMO safety counts more on our city roads and we can compromise with the road width to an extent.

Arijeet, the issue is the necessity of space. As mentioned by me earlier, these conform to the modern urban road design standards that is even followed in India. The onus here is in ‘freeing out the valuable carriageway’ in busy or narrow urban areas. And as I mentioned, ‘Delienators’ or even fencing can be employed to prevent cross over.

As you may be knowing how this stretch looked like earlier. This was possible only after sizeable acquisitions. The stretch was looking like this perhaps one and a half year back.

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This is a typical section of a foot path. I took the photo one year back. You can see the space for landscaping as well as the space where the ducts can be opened. This kind of openable slabs are provided every 10m or more as per site conditions.

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sudheeshnairs
May 28th, 2012, 01:36 PM
More..

Wherever possible TRDCL (Trivandrum Roads Development Company Ltd) provides medians with 1.2 m width. And it is landscaped also.

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This is a similar residential area in Singapore. Perhaps if required we can also have 'railings' like that to prevent people jumping over

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Malayaali
May 28th, 2012, 01:51 PM
^^I doubt whether you have any idea regarding the designing of foot paths.

And if you check all the city roads/ stree of the developed world, the footpaths are of similar height, paved with tiles; be it Singapore, Dubai or Frankfurt. IT IS NOT A FAULTY DESIGN.

I am not an educated person on road standards.

And my queries were based on this photograph.

http://thiruvananthapuramupdates.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dscn0073.jpg?w=640&h=480

And by sheer common sense, once can find the FAULT in the design. The kerb height is too low, that too for a 2-way road. A vehicle out of control can easily cross the shoulder and cause fatal injury to the pedestrian.

I haven't seen such low lying footpaths in Dubai as you claimed. Also, we can't compare developed world standards with Indian roads, where there is practically no driving manners and speed regulations.

sudheeshnairs
May 28th, 2012, 01:57 PM
I was just checking some German trip photos. The kerbs, sidewalks are all similar. The Germans, who are the ultimate guys when it comes to road transportation cannot go wrong, right? Their vehicles do travel at higher speeds, and there are chances of them running out in to the sidewalks. But those are not said as FAULTY DESIGN.

I will post some pics later when I get time.

ajithv
May 28th, 2012, 01:59 PM
And by sheer common sense, once can find the FAULT in the design. The kerb height is too low, that too for a 2-way road.
Come on, there is no fault in design...You can say it as fault in execution.Hope you have seen the other pictures of another roads and compared with this one.
A vehicle out of control can easily cross the shoulder and cause fatal injury to the pedestrian.
Thats why the hand rails are provided. In this case it may also be provided. Need to wait. Now don't argue that handrails are exclusively for that and prolong the discussions:)

Malayaali
May 28th, 2012, 02:03 PM
^^

I admitted that the other stretches has got minimum kerb height for the safety factor.

Hand rails if set up will do a world of good to safety of pedestrians.

DileepKS
May 28th, 2012, 02:36 PM
Those who are still unaware about the pedestrian friendly footpaths coming under TCRIP, please have a look into the below pic... :)

Hope it clarifies...

Yes it does. Good example.

sudheeshnairs
May 28th, 2012, 03:55 PM
Guys, I will be back with more comparo photos of Singapore/ Germany/ Dubai probably latest by tomorrow night. Also some replies. Unfortunately now I am stuck in a party.

PPJ
May 28th, 2012, 08:56 PM
See the reply above.

I'm sure these snaps where taken before the handrails were fixed.The fixing of handrails are still under progress in many parts of the roads under TCRIP "with so many objections".

Do you cross the road only at specified pedestrain crossings? If not provided why not provided, if provided why provided.:nuts:

"Ideally" zebra crossings are provided for pedestrians to cross the road. But in Indian scenario we have the freedom to cross the road at any point however busy the road is.

The later pics shows pretty descent roads. Whatever standards we compare with other countries, its finally boils down to whether we follow simple traffic rules, both who drive on the road as well as the pedestrians. As far as that doesnt happen these things wont yield the intended outcome.

FRANKTHRISSUR
May 29th, 2012, 08:34 AM
St.thomas college road, Thrissur
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ROUND SOUTH, thrissur
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ROUND NORTH, thrissur
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Towards Palace Road

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FRANKTHRISSUR
May 29th, 2012, 08:36 AM
bypass view in Puthur, thrissur
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DileepKS
May 29th, 2012, 08:41 AM
Given the unique Indian way of driving, I think a barrier, at least one foot high, is needed between the sidewalk and the roadway. The sidewalk itself, should be at 6" height. Handrails maybe mounted on top of the barrier if needed.

ajithv
May 29th, 2012, 08:58 AM
^^
This suggestion can please be forwarded to IRC/MoRTH, if possible with a case study.

ajithv
May 29th, 2012, 09:00 AM
BTW, The LA notification for the 4 laning of NH 66 from Oachira to Trivandrum is published. I think this is available in today's newspapers in Trivandrum/Kollam editions.

DileepKS
May 29th, 2012, 11:23 AM
^^
This suggestion can please be forwarded to IRC/MoRTH, if possible with a case study.

In that case, I also have suggestions for solid 6" high lane dividers and physical barriers for red light. All because of our unique style of driving. :nuts:

Nah.. My suggestions are for web forums onlee..

Malayaali
May 30th, 2012, 02:47 AM
State Road Improvement project inaugurated

Rs 5100 crore project to develop 1200km of selected SHs and District roads to world class standards.

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naveenpf
May 30th, 2012, 10:54 PM
One more company for roads in Kerala ...RICK.. http://keralapwd.gov.in/keralapwd/eknowledge/Upload/govtorder/1169.pdf

what different they will be doing from

Roads and bridges (http://www.rbdck.com/) and KRFB (http://www.krfb.org/) ?

Have kerala govt start another company for Expressway ?

Malayaali
May 30th, 2012, 11:50 PM
^^

It's mentioned clearly in the report that the SPV is formed exclusively to implement State Road Improvt. project.

parappanangadi
May 31st, 2012, 09:56 AM
http://epaper.mathrubhumi.com/epaperimages/3152012/3152012-md-mp-1/575193.JPG
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ajithv
June 7th, 2012, 10:53 AM
Agreement signed for road improvement work (http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/article3499616.ece)

The first phase of the development of 30 km of roads in Kozhikode into world-class standards under the City Road Improvement Project to be supervised by the Kerala Road Fund Board (KRFB) functioning under the Public Works Department will be completed in two years.

As a first step to road development, the KRFB and the Roads and Bridges Development Corporation Kerala (RBDCK) signed an agreement on Wednesday here in the presence of Minister for Public Works V.K. Ebrahim Kunju granting the project facilitator status to the RBDCK. Chief Operating Officer (COO) P. C. Harikesh and Managing Director of RBDCK A.P.M. Mohammed Hanish exchanged the agreement in the presence of Principal Secretary, Public Works, P.H. Kurien.

In the first phase of the project, development of six corridors will be taken up at a cost of Rs. 400 crore. In the second phase of CRIP, another six corridors will be taken up.

The shifting of the utilities will be taken up after the land acquisition is completed in July, according to Mr. Hanish.

The RBDCK has already started a unit in Kozhikode and will soon take steps to expedite the works.

The KRFB COO said taking into account the experience of the 42 km road development under CRIP in Thiruvananthapuram, they have included the multi-level parking and bus bays under the project being conceived for Kozhikode.

Irshad
June 7th, 2012, 06:58 PM
6.86-km Pooladikunnu-Malaparamba road
: Chief Minister Oommen Chandy will inaugurate the second phase of the Pooladikunnu-Malaparamba bypass road at the Malaparamba junction on Thursday evening. Minister for Public works V.K. Ebrahim Kunju will preside over the function.

The new bypass road is part of the Kozhikode bypass project aimed at reducing traffic congestion in Kozhikode city. The initial phases of the project were completed between 1999 and 2008.

The Union Ministry of Surface Transport had allocated Rs.32.62 crore for the construction of the 6.86-km road, the work for which was started in May 2009.

The road consists of three underpasses and 24 culverts. The underpasses are at Malaparamba- Karaparamba road, Kannadikkal- Thadambattuthazham road and Krishnan Nair road. Traffic signals have been installed at Malaparamba and Vengeri junctions.

Vehicles coming from Idimuzhikkal- Pooladikunnu road on the National Highway 66 bypass can now reach Thiruvangoor through Atholi Kuniyil.

But optimum usage of the bypass will be possible only after the construction of the 5.10 km stretch from Pooladikunnu to Vengalam.

The works on the remaining part of the bypass, including bridges at Purakkattiri and Korappuzha, will cost Rs. 80 crore, the approval for which is awaited from the Union Ministry of Surface Transport.

However, questions have been raised in various quarters over the effectiveness of the Pooladikunnu-Malaparamba bypass road without the completion of the remaining sections.

In a letter submitted to the Chief Minister, Elathur MLA A.K. Saseendran said the opening of this road would create traffic congestion instead of easing it.

Two-lane road

Also, only a two-lane road was constructed although land was acquired with a width of 45 metres.

According to Mr. Saseendran, vehicles from the new bypass will have to pass through the State Highway, leading to traffic snarls. The raising of the Pooladikunnu-Malaparamba road by about 3 metres for the bypass work has caused difficulties for people living in the locality, he added.


Union Ministry allocated Rs.32.62 crore for project

New road has

3 underpasses,

24 culverts

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/article3499613.ece

simpliCITY
June 7th, 2012, 08:16 PM
http://epaper.mathrubhumi.com/epaperimages/3152012/3152012-md-mp-1/575193.JPG
source:Mathrubhumi

K. T. Jaleel marukandam chadan saadhyathyundo?? More fund for his constituency, ORU NEYYAATTINKARA MANAKKUNNUNDO?:popcorn:

Aslesh
June 8th, 2012, 06:44 AM
^^ Isn't he an independent candidate. I think whip is not applicable for him. He can easily go back to UDF. PC Georgine aa bhagath evidenkilum kandirunno? ;)

Malayaali
June 8th, 2012, 10:33 AM
^^

ജലീലും ആരിഫും മറുകണ്ടം ചാടാന് സാധ്യധയുണ്ട്.

Aslesh
June 8th, 2012, 11:11 AM
ഇപ്പോഴാണെങ്കില്* കൊലപാതക രാഷ്ട്രീയത്തില്* പ്രതിഷേധിച്ച് എന്ന് ഡയലോഗ് അടിക്കുകയും ചെയ്യാം. :lol:

RajeshVR
June 8th, 2012, 04:09 PM
പാര്ടിയില് നിന്ന് പീഠനം, മത സ്വാതന്ത്ര്യം തടഞ്ഞു ഇതും കൂടെ ചേര്ത്താല് ഇപ്പം നല്ല demand ആണ് .

Sali_varakkal
June 8th, 2012, 04:29 PM
ഇപ്പോഴാണെങ്കില്* കൊലപാതക രാഷ്ട്രീയത്തില്* പ്രതിഷേധിച്ച് എന്ന് ഡയലോഗ് അടിക്കുകയും ചെയ്യാം. :lol:

If the Thotty ( the instrument used to pluck Mangoes ) cannot reach the Mangoes, you can pluck them only when the branches come down with the weight of Mangoes.
Now its happening, its best time to get out of clutches of The Party, and enjoy some juicy mangoes. KTJ has to decide fast.

RKPV
June 8th, 2012, 04:46 PM
KTJ athu cheyyumo? Kunjappa will be Okay with that?
Chadiya adutha thavana Thavanoor-il ninnu thirichu kayaran sadhyatha kuravanu.

K@PP!R!S
June 9th, 2012, 12:39 PM
Got this from Facebook:
http://i50.tinypic.com/aonpqq.jpg

DileepKS
June 10th, 2012, 03:09 AM
There was no തിരുവിതാംകൂർ in 1498. It was created when Marthanda Varma consolidated the other kingdoms into his own Venad.

amalmohan
June 10th, 2012, 07:30 AM
http://s19.postimage.org/t29ttusmr/road.jpg
http://s19.postimage.org/u3a2iz9mb/roa.jpg

Aslesh
June 10th, 2012, 07:44 AM
Only 2 roads in Kannur :bash:

mohammedirshad06
June 10th, 2012, 07:56 AM
There was no തിരുവിതാംകൂർ in 1498. It was created when Marthanda Varma consolidated the other kingdoms into his own Venad.

In 1500s, there was no Travancore or Thiruvittamkoor as such. But the Nanjinadu was ruled by 1st branch of Venad Swaroopam- The Thrippappur Branch. Marthanada Varma was descendant into this branch and later it was converted into Thiruvittamkoor after dissolving Venad Swaroopam and annexation of other areas.

DileepKS
June 10th, 2012, 02:11 PM
I am wondering why Marthanda Varma decided on that name for the dynasty? There is a place by that name, but why re-name the family name to that?

antonylejos
June 11th, 2012, 06:12 AM
I am wondering why Marthanda Varma decided on that name for the dynasty? There is a place by that name, but why re-name the family name to that?

It is the other way around. the place was the one renamed , that too in recent past. (to respect Marthandavarma).

FRANKTHRISSUR
June 11th, 2012, 06:24 AM
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mohammedirshad06
June 11th, 2012, 11:46 AM
I am wondering why Marthanda Varma decided on that name for the dynasty? There is a place by that name, but why re-name the family name to that?

Actually, the word Thiruvittamkkur is a corrupt tamil version of Sree Vallum Code, the family deity of Venad Swaroopam. Perhaps, most of people, believe its Sree Padmanabha the family deity. But the real family deity is Sreevallumkode Bhagavati residing inside Padmanabhapuram Palace. The old name of the Fort was Thiruvallumkotta and later its corruption came as Thiruvittamkotta.

After dedicating the nation to Sree Padmanabha, the fort was renamed as Padmanabhapuram, but the original name of fort struck with the Kingdom, as Venad's throne was associated with Kollam's Kulashekarapuram.

naveenpf
June 11th, 2012, 12:26 PM
http://s19.postimage.org/t29ttusmr/road.jpg
http://s19.postimage.org/u3a2iz9mb/roa.jpg

Thanks for sharing this.

amalmohan
June 11th, 2012, 01:08 PM
^^you are welcome...And that is what this forum is for....:cheers:

ajithv
June 11th, 2012, 01:27 PM
SRIP work planned to be taken up in two packages (http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/article3513785.ece)

The State government has finalised 1,204 km of major State and district roads to be developed under the State Road Improvement Project (SRIP) at a cost of Rs. 5,100 crore.

Wilbur Smith Associates, a consultancy, has identified the roads.

Public Works Minister V.K. Ebrahim Kunju said the work would be taken up in two packages.

Twenty-eight roads with a length of 551 km would be included in the rehabilitation package and 34 coming to 653 km in the upgrade package.

Some more roads would be included after the completion of phase I of the project.

The Minister said work on the rehabilitation package would be taken up first as it would require no land acquisition.

Rehabilitation package

The roads identified by the government for development under the rehabilitation package are as follows: Vidyanagar-Maipady-Seethangoli road (9.4 km); Uppala-Kaniyana road (15.6 km); Chovva-Mattannur road (23.8 km); Mananthavady-Kalpetta road (29.7 km); Koyilandy-Thamarassery-Mukkom Areacode-Edavanna road (22 km); Kozhikode-Balussery road (19.5 km); Beypore-Kozhikode road (5.8 km); Perambra-Cheruvannoor-Vadakara road (22.2 km); Perumbilavu-Nilamboor road (43.8 km); and Angadipuram-Valanchery road (20.3 km); Vengara-Edarikkod road (7.2 km); Vadakkanchery-Pollachi road (39.2 km); Kodungalloor-Shoranur road (29.6 km); Thrissur-Mannuthy road (5.25 km); Ernakulam-Thekkady road (12 km); Muvattupuzha-Theni road (16 km); UC College-Thadikkadavu Bridge-Aduvassery up to Paravoor-Athani Airport Road (5.4 km); East Kodungalloor Temple-Elookkara-Aluppuram-Pathalam up to Container Road (7.5 km); Koothattukalam-Pandappilly road (7.1 km); Muvattupuzha-Theni road (36.5 km); Erattupetta-Peerumade road (24.6 km); Sabarimala-Kodaikkanal road (50 km); Pika-Vilakkumadam-Bharananganam- Choolancherry-Piravithanam road (14 km); Alappuzha-Madurai road (22.5 km); Kottayam-Kozhencherry road (16.8 km); Thiruvalla-Mallappally Road (14.55 km); Kollam-Ayoor Road (16.8 km); and Arattukuzhi-Amboori Neyyar Dam road (15.8 km).

Upgrade package

The roads to be developed under the upgrade package are Hosdurg-Panathur road (45.65 km); Puthiyangadi-Choovva road (6.7 km); Palakkad-Perinthalmanna Road (9.75 km); Malappuram-Parappanangadi road (18.95 km); Mudal-Kanjippura road (6.2 km); Kulathur-Malappuram road (16.4 km); Tirur-Kadalundi road (9.2 km); Palakkad-Perinthalmanna road (37.6 km); Ottappalam-Mannarkkad Road (32.3 km); Chavakkad-Wadakkancherry Road (31.8 km); Amballur-Palappili road (15.7 km); Aluva-Munnar road (27.6 km); Muttar-Manjummal-FACT- Kalamassery road (10.1 km); Vaikom-Ettumannoor road (26.4 km); Puliyannoor-Mini Civil Station Road (3 km); Pampady Dayara-Lakkattoor-Mattakkara road (16.6 km); Mutholi-Pala Bharananganam road (11 km); Ambalappuzha-Thiruvalla Road (19.4 km); Thiruvalla-Kumbazha road (34 km); Thiruvananthapuram-Thenmala Road (30.7 km); Kottarakkara- Karunagappally road (27.6 km); Balaramapuram-Vizhinjam road (8 km); Karamana-Vellarada road (36 km); Vazhimukku-Nellimoodu-Poovar road (12.8 km); Tirur-Chamravattom road (11.6 km); Ernakulam-Thekkady road (36.2 km); Thottakattukara-Kongarapilly road (9.9 km); Vyttila-Manaikkapady road (5 km); Malikakkadavu-Pathiyappally- Kalungalkadavu-Kodimatha road (14 km); Mavelikara-Kozhencherry road (8.9 km); Adoor-Anandapally road (16 km); Ayoor-Punalur road (19.7 km); Attingal-Nedumangad road (10.8 km); and Mannanthala-Venjarammoodu Road (17.6 km).

1,200 km of State and district roads identified

Rehabilitation package to be taken up first

Aslesh
June 11th, 2012, 04:19 PM
Puthiyangadi-Chovva road is just 6.7 km? I thought it is Puthiyangadi-Chovva SH-38. Which is this 6.7 km? So only 24 km road selected from Kannur? :bash:

RKPV
June 11th, 2012, 05:04 PM
Koyilandy-Thamarassery-Mukkom Areacode-Edavanna road (22 km) - Actual length - 85 kms - renovation 22km may be in Areekode and Nilambur consistuencies.

Puthiyangadi-Chovva -6.7 km - actual length around 100 kms ( 6.7 may be some parts in kuthuparambu or kannur consistuency)


Puthiyangadi-Chovva road is just 6.7 km? I thought it is Puthiyangadi-Chovva SH-38. Which is this 6.7 km? So only 24 km road selected from Kannur? :bash:

vinod/kakka
June 11th, 2012, 06:46 PM
Wasnt Trivandrum - Tenmala road part of KSTP too?

ajithv
June 12th, 2012, 06:46 AM
Wasnt Trivandrum - Tenmala road part of KSTP too?
Not fully.Trivandrum (Originally Peroorkada, later it was from Vazhayila as Peroorkada-Vazhayila comes under TCRIP) -Nedumangad was part of part of KSTP (RMC).Now including that stretch and upto Themala is included in upgradation package.

maheshponneth
June 12th, 2012, 10:11 AM
The Mannuthy road which is of 6km has to be four laned. But according to the report only strengthening of road will take place. There is land available for LA. Still it won't be four laned now.

naveenpf
June 14th, 2012, 10:45 AM
Koyilandy-Thamarassery-Mukkom Areacode-Edavanna road (22 km) - Actual length - 85 kms - renovation 22km may be in Areekode and Nilambur consistuencies.

Puthiyangadi-Chovva -6.7 km - actual length around 100 kms ( 6.7 may be some parts in kuthuparambu or kannur consistuency)

Kerala PWD's naming convention for SH and MDR are to difficult to understand.
In this list they given SH names with District codes.
http://www.niyamasabha.org/codes/13kla/session_5/ans/u01141-140612-835000000000-05-13.pdf

DileepKS
June 14th, 2012, 11:07 AM
Is there any detail of the exact stretches being upgraded/rehabilitated? The list just gives some kilometre numbers.

sanjupalayat
June 15th, 2012, 12:56 AM
Chamravattom regulator cum bridge.

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DileepKS
June 15th, 2012, 03:02 AM
^^ജ്ജ് ബടൊക്കെത്തന്നെണ്ടാര്ന്നോ കുണ്ടാ?

ajithv
June 15th, 2012, 03:58 AM
Reply in Assembly by PWD Minister (http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/article3530625.ece)
Works Minister V.K. Ebrahim Kunju said the National Highways Authority of India, Thiruvananthapuram unit, will determine the points where toll should be collected after completing the works on the National Highway 47 stretch. On the NH-17 Kuttipuram-Edapally stretch, it had been proposed to collect toll at two points.
The Karamana-Kaliyikkavila road would be developed to a width of 30.20 metre. Encroachments had been detected on the land acquired for road development owing to the delay in starting the work.
Instances of organisations putting up temporary sheds for meetings and other purposes and converting them into permanent constructions had been reported. Such encroachments will be removed. An expert committee was examining the draft road policy prepared by the government

ajithv
June 16th, 2012, 04:11 AM
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/10/32218125.jpg

Source: Malayala Manorama

ajithv
June 16th, 2012, 04:11 AM
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6184/nh1j.jpg

Source: Malayala Manorama

DileepKS
June 16th, 2012, 05:03 AM
The current NHAI method of tolling is unviable in our state, especially the Edapally-Kaliyikkavila stretch of NH-66. Unless a system of "per distance toll" is instituted, it ain't gonna happen.

Look at the Paliyekkara toll. I passed there a couple of times in the past month. Most of the vehicles are bypassing the toll, includimg the ones that used the entire stretch of the highway. Bumper-to-bumper traffic is seen on the bypass route on a Sunday noon!!

It is going to be a complete mess, I am tellin ya!!

naveenpf
June 16th, 2012, 07:24 AM
Is there any detail of the exact stretches being upgraded/rehabilitated? The list just gives some kilometre numbers.


This has list .
http://www.niyamasabha.org/codes/13kla/session_5/ans/u01141-140612-835000000000-05-13.pdf

DileepKS
June 16th, 2012, 08:47 AM
^^Actually, my question was specifically because that list is not clear. For example, It says Ernakulam-Thekkady road, 12km. Where exactly is that 12km portion located?

Aslesh
June 16th, 2012, 10:00 AM
^^ True. It is not clear. This is a reply given in Assembly. Can't they provide some more details? Even the road numbers given are confusing. :bash:

DileepKS
June 16th, 2012, 12:32 PM
I hate these road names like "ernakulam-thekkady" highway. You should name a logically contiguous stretch of road, instead of cobbling up various individual roads to invent a new name.

Malayaali
June 16th, 2012, 12:56 PM
DEL

Malayaali
June 17th, 2012, 10:27 PM
World Bank team to visit Kerala for state transport project (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kochi/World-Bank-team-to-visit-Kerala-for-state-transport-project/articleshow/14213357.cms)
KOCHI: As part of implementing the second phase of Kerala State Transport Project (KSTP), the World Bank team will visit the state for four days from Monday. Works Minister V K Ibrahimkunju said that the team would hold talks with the officials including Chief Secretary, Finance Secretary and PWD officials.

Besides Simon David Ellis, the leader of the team, it would comprise ten more members. The points of discussion would be road safety, financial aspects, review of the second phase of the project and green infrastructure. Road safety survey as part of the financial component projects and traffic management will also be discussed.

The World Bank team has experts in the field of transport economics, transport engineering procurement, social development environment, and administration and finance management. The second phase of KSTP envisages renovation of 367 kilometre-long roads and heavy maintenance of 1000 kilometre-long roads at a cost of Rs 2942 crore.

ajithv
June 18th, 2012, 03:04 AM
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ajithv
June 18th, 2012, 03:08 AM
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MVD has temporarily made the max speed on NHs as 89kmph.

Source: Malayala Manorama

DileepKS
June 18th, 2012, 03:44 AM
Angamaly-Mannuthy and Vyttila-Aroor seems to be fine for 89kph. The rest of the highway isn't, really.

keralite
June 18th, 2012, 06:05 AM
that local news claiming volvo bus caught for speeding at 152kmph is outrageous. it can hardly go above 100-110kmph.

FRANKTHRISSUR
June 18th, 2012, 11:11 AM
NH 47 NEAR THALORE , THRISSUR
http://www.bcmtouring.com/forum/attachments/dsc05161.jpg-274098d1339505519
http://www.bcmtouring.com/forum/attachments/dsc05156.jpg-274097d1339505519
http://www.bcmtouring.com/forum/attachments/dsc05163.jpg-274099d1339505519

Malayaali
June 18th, 2012, 11:32 AM
Angamaly-Mannuthy and Vyttila-Aroor seems to be fine for 89kph. The rest of the highway isn't, really.

90 is fine for the developed NHs in the state. 70 is too low that it's difficult to follow on such good roads. So the 20 kmph tolerance makes sense.

In UAE, almost all speed limits are given tolerance. If you see 60, you could go up to 80. For 120, up to 140 etc. There are exceptions, though.

Malayaali
June 18th, 2012, 11:37 AM
that local news claiming volvo bus caught for speeding at 152kmph is outrageous. it can hardly go above 100-110kmph.

152 kmph by a bus! How could these reporters be so senseless.

Is the penalty based on speed or is that anyone crossing speed limit, whatever speed they are doing, are given a common fine?

The Adventurer
June 18th, 2012, 02:01 PM
The volvo busses are pretty fast.I'm quite sure the average speed must be around 120 plus

Malayaali
June 18th, 2012, 02:11 PM
^^

No way! The top speed must be around 120 kmph which can be hardly achieved. 100-105 must be the average speed.

sudheeshnairs
June 18th, 2012, 02:21 PM
^^Volvo B7R/8400 R’s speedometer is calibrated to 120 Kph only. I have a picture of the dash board which I clicked sometime back. Any way they can cruise at a top speed close to about 120 kph. 156 kph is totally impossible.

Interestingly Volvo website itself cites a ‘Max speed’ for the city version of the 8400 R with 290 bhp as 80 KPH; of course citing it as ‘recommended’.

http://www.volvobuses.com/bus/india/en-in/buses/Volvo8400/pages/specificationsEuro2.aspx

The specs of 9400 Multi Axle Volvo; the recommended top speed is 100 kph.

http://www.volvobuses.com/bus/india/en-in/buses/Volvo9400_multi-axle/Pages/specifications.aspx

DileepKS
June 18th, 2012, 03:41 PM
^^Yes, the top marked speed is 120, and there is a youtube video where the needle shows topped out. There is also a video where someone follows a bus in a car and records 125kph.

Pn1VemW7zk8

RKPV
June 18th, 2012, 04:24 PM
Any car's speedometer shows beyond 100 kmph , the actual speed might be 5-10% less than what we can see in the meter. If it shows 150 , the actual will be 135-140 only, it is depend on the Tyre size and max speed of the car.

^^Yes, the top marked speed is 120, and there is a youtube video where the needle shows topped out. There is also a video where someone follows a bus in a car and records 125kph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn1VemW7zk8

sudheeshnairs
June 18th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Yes, 'speedo error' would be there.

DileepKS
June 18th, 2012, 06:03 PM
True. The only reliable indicator would be a GPS.

The video shows a digital readout on an add-on panel on the dash. It maybe a GPS. Not sure.

_hu-iCl3v0U

Malayaali
June 18th, 2012, 06:07 PM
^^

_hu-iCl3v0U

The Adventurer
June 18th, 2012, 06:58 PM
I'm quite sure of volvos cruising at 120. Been on the delhi chandigarh highway and was cruising at par with sedans on a 6 lame road.....definitely around 120....

ajithv
June 19th, 2012, 03:37 AM
New bridge connecting Thrissur-Palakkad opened (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kochi/New-bridge-connecting-Thrissur-Palakkad-opened/articleshow/14256415.cms)

THRISSUR: The heavy downpour and the demand from the public forced the authorities to throw open the new Thanathara bridge, near Kunnamkulam, that connects Thrissur and Palakkad districts on Monday.

PWD minister V K Ebrahim Kunju was slated to formally inaugurate the bridge on June 23. But rain had submerged the temporary passage adjacent to the new bridge, forcing authorities to open the bridge to allow vehicles to pass through. The paddy field where the temporary passage had been constructed overflowed due to heavy rain on Sunday night creating a minor traffic jam. The canal over which the bridge was being constructed too had been closed.

"Though the construction work that commenced in the beginning of this year was completed in record time, the work had begun pretty late. PWD should have started the construction work right after the last monsoon. In fact, the foundation stone for the new bridge was laid by K P Rajendran, former revenue minister on February 18, 2011. But construction started much later," said N Sadasivan, a native of Ottappilavu.

The new bridge, constructed at a cost of Rs 2.5 crore, is expected to smoothen the traffic flow on one of the important state highways connecting the two districts.

ajithv
June 19th, 2012, 03:39 AM
1,600 families oppose land acquisition for NH widening (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kochi/1600-families-oppose-land-acquisition-for-NH-widening/articleshow/14256305.cms)

ALAPPUZHA: The district administration has received applications from over 1,600 families requesting the authorities to exempt their land and buildings from the acquisition process for widening of NH-47.

Deputy collector (NH) M K Kabeer said that they began hearing of applications on Monday, to address the grievances of people, who fear eviction.

"The majority of the applicants asked us to exempt their land from acquisition. Some families have demanded a better rehabilitation package for surrendering their land and buildings. Most of the families are against the widening of NH-47 on BOT system. We will soon hold a meeting with the National Highway Authority of India (NHAI) for discussing the problems of the evictees," he said.

"We are all set to kick off survey for starting the land acquisition process from Thuravoor to Oachira. After completing the survey, we will decide the value of the land and structures. A district-level purchase committee (DLPCA) will soon be constituted with district collector as chairman for fixing the value of the land and building which will be acquired for the project," Kabeer said.

The district administration has set up three special tahsildars' offices at Cherthala, Ambalappuzha and Haripad for speeding up the land acquisition process.

FRANKTHRISSUR
June 19th, 2012, 06:43 AM
PALIYEKKARA -NH 47, THRISSUR
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e_arunsid
June 19th, 2012, 07:20 AM
I'm quite sure of volvos cruising at 120. Been on the delhi chandigarh highway and was cruising at par with sedans on a 6 lame road.....definitely around 120....

I second that..Even i have seen the same during one of my blore-kochi journey.

ajithv
June 20th, 2012, 03:06 AM
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/7090/kstpmm.jpg

Source: Malayala Manorama

passionfruit12
June 20th, 2012, 03:59 AM
^^
Good News.

ajithv
June 20th, 2012, 07:52 AM
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3553/kdprm.jpg

Source: Mathrubhumi
4 Laning of Kazhakkoottam-Kesavadasapuram Road: Alignment Survey to Start from June 18 (http://t.co/PveT1qZV)

The alignment survey for the four-laning of the Kazhakkoottam -Kesavadasapuram stretch at 30 m-width will begin from June 18. The decision was taken at a high-level meeting convened by the Chief Minister the other day to discuss the monorail project in Thiruvananthapuram.

The Public Works Department (PWD) has assigned the National Transportation Planning and Research Centre (NATPAC) with the task of conducting the alignment survey of the Kazhakkoottam-Kesavadasapuram stretch. The NATPAC, which had earlier done a preliminary survey, will begin the actual survey operations on Monday.

ajithv
June 20th, 2012, 07:53 AM
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5161/karamanamv.jpg

Karamana - Kaliyikkavila road widening in 30.2m will start after receiving the notification from the Revenue department, says PWD Minister in Assembly

Source: Metro Vaartha

ajithv
June 20th, 2012, 07:53 AM
Land acquisition for NH widening soon (http://newindianexpress.com/cities/thiruvananthapuram/article546612.ece)

If the National Highway authorities are to be believed, land acquisition for the first phase of the Karamana-Kaliyikkavila NH widening works will begin soon. The Government is expected to issue an order in this regard which would enable the Revenue officials to begin the land acquisition for the first phase connecting Karamana to Vazhimukku.

Meanwhile, the city can expect a major road block on July 25, when the National Highway Action Council is planning a vehicle rally from Kaliyikkavila to Secretariat in protest against the lethargic attitude of authorities in the issue. The rally will begin at 8.30 am from Kaliyikkavila on that day.

“A girl was killed on Monday in a road accident at Balaramapuram. Some days ago, a boy was killed in a mishap at Pravachambalam. A minimum two accidents take place on the stretch daily. Nobody is bothered about the development of the area,” said Mannankal Ramachandran, general secretary of the NH Action Council, explaining the decision on take out a protest rally.

The National Highway officials told Express that a notification in this regard will be issued soon. The land acquisition will begin on the stretch in four sections. The first section of land acquisition will be on the Karamana-Pappanamcode stretch.

The plan is to widen the National Highway connecting Karamana to Kaliyikkavila to 30.2 metres. The National Highway wing of the State PWD has been entrusted with the task of developing the road. The NH Action Council has been demanding the development of the busy stretch for the past several years. Finally, the then Chief Minister V S Acuthanandan laid the foundation stone for the work in November 2010. However, the work got stuck over the issue of land acquisition.

Recently, Chief Minister Oommen Chandy intervened in the issue. The officials submitted a revised alignment taking into account the hurdles in the area. The Karamana-Kaliyikkavila National Highway passes through five Assembly constituencies, Neyyatinkara, Parassala, Kovalam, Nemom and Kattakkada.

naveenpf
June 20th, 2012, 01:39 PM
Hoi,
It is mentioned in Emerging Kerala site. Checkout the pdf

Northern Section
http://www.emergingkerala2012.org/pdf/Infrastructure%20Development%20%28Road,%20Rail,%20Sewage,%20etc%29/state-road-improvement-project-northern-region.pdf

Central Section
http://www.emergingkerala2012.org/pdf/Infrastructure%20Development%20%28Road,%20Rail,%20Sewage,%20etc%29/state-road-improvement-project-central-region.pdf

Southern Section
http://www.emergingkerala2012.org/pdf/Infrastructure%20Development%20%28Road,%20Rail,%20Sewage,%20etc%29/state-road-improvement-project-southern-region.pdf

^^Actually, my question was specifically because
that list is not clear. For example, It says Ernakulam-Thekkady road, 12km. Where exactly is that 12km portion located?

DileepKS
June 20th, 2012, 01:59 PM
Thanx Naveen. Great find!!

Malayaali
June 20th, 2012, 02:19 PM
^^

Good find Naveen. Ekm-Thekkady road starts at Muvattupuzha, LMAO :D

keralite
June 20th, 2012, 05:44 PM
EKM-Thekkady road is actually Kakkanad-Muvattupuzha SH41? the new section is from Muvattupuzha to Parakkadavu through Arakkuzha-Pandappilly.

and, already a 4-lane! widening of road from Arikkuzha to Ramamangalam is happening particularly in Pandappilly Junction.
possibly shorter route to connect Thodupuzha to Eranakulam city.:|

seems like road development from Muvattupuzha to eastern parts are given priority.

simpliCITY
June 20th, 2012, 06:53 PM
Package Length
(kms)
Block cost
approx (Rs. In
Million
Package 1: North region: Kasaragod,
Kannur, Malappuram and Wayanad
219.30 4013.10
Package II: Central Region: Palakkad,
Thrissur, Ernakkulam and Idukki
158.90 2387.00
Package III: South Region:
Alappuzha, Kottayam, Pathanamthitta,
Kollam, Thiruvananthapuram
173.00 2521.00
Package Total 551.20 8921.10

^^ This is from Naveen's Link , Where is ഞമ്മളെ കോയിക്കോട്?

Aslesh
June 20th, 2012, 08:30 PM
That is a mistake. Kozhikode is included in the package. Check the first link.

Malayaali
June 20th, 2012, 08:34 PM
^^

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9093/41131796.jpg

Aslesh
June 20th, 2012, 08:48 PM
See Kozhikode got the best deal. Around 70 kms. പേരില്ലാത്തതിനു ആണ് പരാതി. :nuts:

Malayaali
June 20th, 2012, 10:37 PM
Electronic Toll plazas on NHs by 2014

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/9093/41131796.jpg
cc: Deepika

naveenpf
June 21st, 2012, 08:09 AM
KRFB is one org that needs to watchout ..

Trissur City Roads Improvement Project
A SURVEY STARTED BY GOVT.AGENCY TO ANALYSE TRAFFIC RUSH IN THE CITY

SEE THE LINK FROM MANORAMA :http://www.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/localContentView.do?tabId=16&contentId=11832621&district=Thrissur&programId=1079897613&BV_ID=@@@

Kozhikode Mono Rail Project too .. i do not know how rail project came under this :)

http://www.emergingkerala2012.org/pdf/Infrastructure%20Development%20%28Road,%20Rail,%20Sewage,%20etc%29/kozhikode-monorail-project.pdf

ajithv
June 22nd, 2012, 06:32 AM
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7090/kstpmm.jpg

Source: Malayala Manorama

Aslesh
June 22nd, 2012, 06:55 AM
2012 or 2013 December? What are they waiting for? :ohno:

ajithv
June 23rd, 2012, 06:29 AM
WB, KSTP to approach DEA (http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-kerala/article3561502.ece)

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/01122/22tvark02-KSTP_GND_1122522e.jpg

A World Bank (WB) team and officials of the Kerala State Transport Project (KSTP) will hold discussions with the Union Department of Economic Affairs (DEA) in New Delhi on Monday for nod to take up heavy maintenance of 1,000 km of roads in the State under the second phase of the KSTP, which is to commence in December.

The meeting is a follow-up of the discussions the 11-member World Bank team, led by senior transport economist Simon D. Ellis, who was in the State for the last four days, had with Minister for Public Works V.K. Ebrahim Kunju and KSTP officials.

Official sources told The Hindu that the WB team had told the Minister that it was ready to fund 50 per cent of the heavy maintenance cost if the DEA gave the nod.

The heavy maintenance of the roads would cost Rs.1,000 crore, of which the State’s share would be Rs.500 crore.

On getting DEA nod, consultants would be able to take up the prioritisation study in August and commence procurement for phase one by January.

Of the 1,000 km, the first phase contract for 400 km would be signed by April 2013 and for the rest, by December 2013.

The WB had agreed to fund the upgrade of 362.9 km of State highways into world class standards under the second phase of the KSTP.

Official sources said the second phase works would commence in December.

The identification mission that visited the State for preparing the aide-memoire (a proposed agreement or negotiating text) had stated that it had been impressed by the project preparations of the KSTP.

The WB team during its visit reviewed the second phase of the KSTP, financial plus, PPP, modernisation programmes in the PWD, road safety and green infrastructure, road safety survey, traffic management, and experiences in the first phase of the KSTP.

Second phase

Official sources said the second phase sub-projects were scheduled for June 2013 and the third phase sub-projects, February 2014.

As per the aide-memoire, the project will have four components - road upgrading, periodic maintenance, road safety, and modernisation.

The WB had also responded positively to the State’s request for a 10-year maintenance guarantee of the 362.9 km of roads to be taken up in the second phase.

The second phase was expected to be ready for commissioning in five years, the sources said.

Malayaali
June 24th, 2012, 09:31 AM
No plan to reduce National Highway width, says PWD Minister (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kochi/No-plan-to-reduce-national-highway-width-says-public-works-department-minister/articleshow/14366934.cms)
Public works minister V K Ebrahim Kunju said that the government had no plans to reduce the width of the national highway in the state from the proposed 45m to 30m.

He was addressing the public after inaugurating the reconstructed Thanathara Bridge that connects Thrissur and Palakkad districts, near Kunnamkulam on Saturday.

"The UDF government has a clear decision on the width of the national highways in the state - that is to increase its width to 45m. We will definitely follow the Union government's norms. The decision is aimed at smooth flow of vehicles and overall development of our state," said the minister. The Thanathara Bridge was thrown open to the public last week itself. Kunju also said the Perumpilavu-Nilambur state highway will be developed to suit national standards by including the road in the second phase of the Kerala State Transport Project (KSTP). "Fund will never be a barrier for the project," the minister added.

Perumpilavu-Nilambur state highway passes through three districts - Thrissur, Palakkad and Malapuram and is considered to be one of the busiest roads in the region.

Kunnamkulam MLA Babu M Palissery presided over the function. Thrithala MLA VT Balram, Ex-MLA AC Moideen and others participated in the programme.

ajithv
June 25th, 2012, 02:23 PM
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© Arjunlal B @Flickr

ajithv
June 26th, 2012, 03:42 AM
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8262/kstpkk.jpg

Source: Kerala Kaumudi

dinakar
June 26th, 2012, 06:45 AM
yes , keep going, DEC , JAN, FEB , MAR........

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7090/kstpmm.jpg

Source: Malayala Manorama


http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8262/kstpkk.jpg

Source: Kerala Kaumudi

ajithv
June 26th, 2012, 07:37 AM
Add this too to the list !
Which one has to believe? :nuts:

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9906/kstpdb.jpg

Source: Deshabhimani

ajithv
June 26th, 2012, 10:04 AM
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2144/kstpmv.jpg

Source: Metro Vaartha

The 77-km-long Kazhakoottam-Adoor stretch of the KSTP road will be declared safe corridor.

If the experiment is found successful, the scheme would be implemented in other sectors.

Source (http://newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/article550869.ece)

ajithv
June 26th, 2012, 10:05 AM
He said Kollam city will also be included under the City Road Development Project.

The Thrissur and Kannur cities had already been included under this project. The roads in the Thiruvananthapuram city have attained international standards ,according to the minister.

The roads in Kochi and Kozhikode will also be attaining these standards. The minister said that the State Government would take over the Alappuzha bypass project which had been hampered for a long time and would be implemented as an elevated highway.
Source (http://newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/article550869.ece)

RaufAzi
June 26th, 2012, 06:17 PM
^^
Malappuram and Kottayam too

naveenpf
June 29th, 2012, 09:11 AM
Adopt-a-Highway .. will this work in Kerala for the state highways in Kerala ?

http://www.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/mmonline.dll/portal/ep/malayalamContentView.do?contentId=11889975&programId=&BV_ID=@@@

The Adventurer
June 29th, 2012, 04:13 PM
thats a fine idea indeed!

DileepKS
July 5th, 2012, 04:04 AM
I want to propose a couple of measures to finance the highways without toll.

1. Fuel cess: According to the recent news reports, the govt foregone Rs 1.63 per litre of petrol, resulting in a lost revenue of Rs 218 Cr. Charging one rupee cess over petrol and diesel would get you at least 200 crores in a year.

2. Windfall Tax: The commericial establishments that have direct access to the highway get a windfall. There should be a 10% surcharge on their sales tax. I don't have data to predict how much we can get from this.

3. Another windfall tax: A 10% surcharge on the stamp duty for any transaction of properties within 100M of the highway.

With these, I think we can comfortably pay for the tolls.

Aslesh
July 5th, 2012, 06:39 AM
Then why not those who uses the road directly pay for it rather than others? :nuts:

DileepKS
July 5th, 2012, 06:50 AM
Aslesh, toll has become a bigg problem now, since NHAI is doing it on a uniform rule. We have a toll gate at Paliyekkara, which charges Rs 50 from even people who go to Amballoor. Such arrangements will not work.

We need an equitable and workable solution suitable for Kerala.

Aslesh
July 5th, 2012, 08:39 AM
Aslesh, toll has become a bigg problem now, since NHAI is doing it on a uniform rule. We have a toll gate at Paliyekkara, which charges Rs 50 from even people who go to Amballoor. Such arrangements will not work.

We need an equitable and workable solution suitable for Kerala.

Electronic toll will work in Kerala. Till then we can bypass the tollgate like they do in Amballoor. :D

DileepKS
July 5th, 2012, 11:20 AM
Even electronic toll needs toll booths at every entry/exit. That is too much to ask.

Aslesh
July 5th, 2012, 11:44 AM
Even electronic toll needs toll booths at every entry/exit. That is too much to ask.

We can have electronic toll booths like every 20 kms. The amount will be less. Can give exemption for vehicles within 10 kms of a booth. They can pass free and others will get the amount debited from their prepaid card. Like they do in Dubai.

DileepKS
July 5th, 2012, 12:38 PM
The problem is, how to enforce everyone having a prepaid card? Also, a short distance toll, like Rs 10 every 10km is an acceptable solution, even without electronic toll.

Malayaali
July 5th, 2012, 01:18 PM
^^

Electronic toll can be easily implemented. And i think that simple setup (that i have seen in Dubai) will cost much lesser in capital and maintenance than the behemoth plazas built here.

The system is the usage of an electronic card attached to the vehicle that will have a recharge number similar to mobile phone number. The credit information should be available on NHAI toll no. The card and recharge coupon should be made available at every fuel station or common places. The card can be recharged through mobile and a registered mobile number will receive the data whenever the vehicle crosses the toll plaza.

The road users must be informed about the Electronic toll card using road signage at regular intervals before the toll plaza.

ajithv
July 5th, 2012, 02:05 PM
Ride to Ponmudi Hill Station, Trivandrum

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DileepKS
July 5th, 2012, 02:31 PM
Electronic or ticket based, the problem with fractional toll is enforcement. The one reason NHAI gone for a 'point passing' toll is the problem of enforcing. Electronic system just makes it easier and faster to pay. It doesn't help in enforcement.

Malayaali
July 5th, 2012, 02:38 PM
^^

If Rs 50 toll can be enforced at one place, Rs 10 toll at 5 places (or Rs 30 toll, if one passes all at a stretch) can be enforced much easily, i believe. Moreover electronic toll make it easier for the user as it does save his time too.

DileepKS
July 5th, 2012, 03:13 PM
You don't get it.

You need toll booths, and people manning them in order to catch the people who go without a valid RFID, or without enough credit. You also need to serve people who 'forgot to buy' the credit.

In essence, you will have toll booths every 10KM. With electronic system, whoever have that, can go through faster.

Malayaali
July 5th, 2012, 03:30 PM
^^

Not really, there should be radar to track all those vehicles without electronic card, just like the speed radars.

In Dubai, there is a minimum time allowance before which one should recharge his card if it's below credit.

Aslesh
July 5th, 2012, 04:26 PM
You don't get it.

You need toll booths, and people manning them in order to catch the people who go without a valid RFID, or without enough credit. You also need to serve people who 'forgot to buy' the credit.

In essence, you will have toll booths every 10KM. With electronic system, whoever have that, can go through faster.

Just need to make it mandatory. Photo of the vehicles which don't have the tracker or without balance will be taken. Violaters will be fined.

Malayaali
July 6th, 2012, 03:54 AM
KSTP Phase II to start by December

I think it's is the Dec '12 rather than Dec' 13 having discussed earlier here.

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vu3nnn
July 6th, 2012, 07:24 AM
^^

Not really, there should be radar to track all those vehicles without electronic card, just like the speed radars.

In Dubai, there is a minimum time allowance before which one should recharge his card if it's below credit.

India is not Dubai. In Dubai, if you don't pay your fine, you don't get past the immigration counter in the airport. Is such a system relevant in India, where we do not even have a UID in the first place?

What happens if, say, a Maharastra registered vehicles decides to drive through the radar without a toll pass?
What happens when the vehicle happens to be re-sold but the new owner has not bothered to update the RC book?

Aslesh
July 6th, 2012, 07:44 AM
India is not Dubai. In Dubai, if you don't pay your fine, you don't get past the immigration counter in the airport. Is such a system relevant in India, where we do not even have a UID in the first place?

What happens if, say, a Maharastra registered vehicles decides to drive through the radar without a toll pass?
What happens when the vehicle happens to be re-sold but the new owner has not bothered to update the RC book?
There is no need of UID. All vehicles have a unique ID which is its registration number. Maharashtra registered vehicle have to buy the id before they enter through the border check post.

If the vehicle is re-sold the new owner has to update the RC book. It's mandatory. It is a matter of concern for the old owner. He should make sure it is done. If the new vehicle is used for some illegal activity the old owner will get caught. Somebody being idiot should not prevent the government from implementing electronic toll. If the new owner did not update RC the old owner have to pay the fine. That perfectly 'fine'.