View Full Version : The Murano-A Pretty Simple Design


TheAlmightyFuzz
August 11th, 2004, 07:46 PM
...it reminds me of the SP!RE.
Check it! (http://www.muranocondominiums.com/index_flash.html)
This fall, lanterra will introduce Murano- a two tower(about 375 ft. and 459 ft.) condominium neighbourhood to bay Street. I think it should look good if they stay away from the green glass. :bash:

Are Be
August 11th, 2004, 10:09 PM
YIKES!
What a name- Abbot and Costelo, 3 stooges, just wiating to happen:
You live in the Morono?
NO - the Murano!
That's what I said, MORONO!
What are you? A moron in the morono or a moron in the murano?
etc.

valantino
August 12th, 2004, 12:27 AM
^never been or heard of the Mediterranean resort town, I guess.

All renderings indicate a blue (Radio City) or green (HVE) semi-reflective glass. Love this semi-reflective glass (but not the brown version used for Minto Gardens in NYCC)

salvius
August 12th, 2004, 02:03 AM
Ugh, I don't like it. Why is it so hard to pepper some style?

416
August 12th, 2004, 02:28 AM
Murano? Might as well call it Spire. It looks the freakin same.
How unoriginal.

valantino
August 12th, 2004, 05:55 AM
^the only resemblance is the basic shape. It has lots of style just not the typical post-modernism of in-your-face.

Hillis
August 12th, 2004, 07:48 AM
Murano? Might as well call it Spire. It looks the freakin same.
How unoriginal.

Who cares?

KGB
August 12th, 2004, 09:02 AM
I don't think it's all that odd for an architect to have a signature style. I happen to like Clewes' take on the modern glass tower.





KGB

416
August 12th, 2004, 03:44 PM
As do I but someone needs to pinch him. Spire, Murano and 18 Yorkville look all too similar.

Tridel should hire him.

KGB
August 12th, 2004, 04:39 PM
Perhaps Spire and Murano have a similar look because they are both point towers with all-glass skins and similar proportions....but 18 Yorkville doesn't look much like the other two at all. Murano will also be a twin tower project.

I think your objections are based on another similarity...they are in Toronto, and isn't it your mission to be negative about anything Toronto.





KGB

416
August 12th, 2004, 04:49 PM
Your right. 18 Yorkville looks identical to Radio City. My mistake.

Maybe if Toronto started putting up some decent architecture I wouldn't be so negative.

You just love thinking up all these conspiracy theories eh?! LOL!

Are Be
August 12th, 2004, 05:39 PM
Ah ....
There are so many buildings going up right now (NYCC, and downtown- heck, even 905 has towers going up like crazy)
This will just be one more tower to add to the salad. And these are the glorious 'salad days' of construction in this city.

Sure, the signature look of Toronto is the 'cheap - out'.
Sure, this Murano looks like many other towers.
But, (and I disagree with Hume of the Star, though I get where he's coming from) the loopy volume of buildings going up will make the whole greater than the sum of its parts (let's hope.)
Hey, the Tokyo skyline is as freaking crap as it gets. LOADS of freaking ugly buildings-- but so freaking many of them, that the mind boggling volume of them blows the viewer (tourists especially ) away.
Bottom line point: another 2 30 to 40 story towers. Not precast slabs. This is perfectly fine. Yeah, in 20 years, when porthole windows and precast will be the rage, these buildings will look dated. So what?
I give this building a thumbs up- it adds to quantity- and it's not a slab.

KGB
August 12th, 2004, 06:19 PM
"Maybe if Toronto started putting up some decent architecture I wouldn't be so negative. "


First of all, you say these buildings are "identicle", which they aren't. Then you imply these buildings constitute bad architecture, which they don't.

So, if the basis for your negativity towards Toronto isn't what you say, then it must be something else.




"Sure, this Murano looks like many other towers."


Really? I don't think it does at all....the only tower I can think of that uses this design approach is Spire, with regard to the all-glass facade. Because the two are using the same facade approach, the small details are what make them different...I like both aprroaches...the symetrical glass panes on Spire and the staggerd approach on Murano.


I think the Murano project with it's twin point towers and on street podium fits that Bay St site quite well. I think the aestetic of the thin, all-glass facade is a tastefull modern look. Another parking lot on Bay St gone...more street retail and probably street art and landscaping of some kind.

I really don't see the big disaster you guys are.






KGB

valantino
August 12th, 2004, 07:03 PM
Either tall square point towers or slabs with long drawn-out curves - unit size limits what can be built and successfully sold. My only objection is the height of the podium - wish it were taller

KGB
August 12th, 2004, 07:18 PM
"My only objection is the height of the podium - wish it were taller"


Upon closer inspection of another rendering I have, it really doesn't seem to have a podium in the traditional sense. The main floorplates of the towers extend right to the street, with a two story infil between the two towers (which is quite small as they are very close to eachother).

They give an impression of a podium by giving the first two floors of the towers and the infil part the same facade treatment, which differes from the upper tower floors.

If the infil section was any more than 2 floors, the scale would look off because of how short the distance is between the two towers. By treating the whole streetscape with a two story area that looks the same, it gives a horozontal podium look to offset the very verticle aspect of the thin point towers.






KGB

Are Be
August 12th, 2004, 09:05 PM
Does anyone know where this is going to go? Bay and Bloor area?

KGB
August 12th, 2004, 09:08 PM
It's the Addison on Bay car lot (east side of Bay).





KGB

TheAlmightyFuzz
August 12th, 2004, 09:11 PM
Is it the area behind the Aria rental project?

KGB
August 12th, 2004, 09:28 PM
No...it's the block south of that...the block directly north of the police headquarters...they will be right on Bay St.




KGB

TheAlmightyFuzz
August 12th, 2004, 09:40 PM
Hmmm....I don't really remember a parking lot like that on Bay. :(
I was hoping that they demolish that hideous building with blue and PURPLE glass...
Do you if they're gonna have some kind of develpment in that vacant lot behind Aria?

valantino
August 13th, 2004, 07:02 AM
"If the infil section was any more than 2 floors, the scale would look off because of how short the distance is between the two towers. By treating the whole streetscape with a two story area that looks the same, it gives a horozontal podium look to offset the very verticle aspect of the thin point towers"

Whoa! how true

hideous building with blue and PURPLE glass

can't remember it

Do you if they're gonna have some kind of develpment in that vacant lot behind Aria?

two more rental towers - construction probably depends on the success of Aria

TheAlmightyFuzz
August 13th, 2004, 04:49 PM
This... (http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=168929)

The purple glass just ruins the building :(

valantino
August 13th, 2004, 05:01 PM
Oh that building! Not the biggest fan either - don't expect a 35 storey condo to be re-developed anytime soon though - most likely even in our lifetime. Condos tower are more or less permanant landmarks - the building may only be worth 60 million but to buy out each individual owner will be significantly more. Not very profitable

TheAlmightyFuzz
August 13th, 2004, 05:21 PM
Yeah...I guess this urban blight will have to stay. Hopefully there will be enough towers built around it to dwarf this or cover it up.

416
August 16th, 2004, 03:16 PM
There's a small rendering of the project that i've never seen before here:

http://www.baker-re.com/baker/prod02.asp

TheAlmightyFuzz
August 16th, 2004, 04:37 PM
Which project?

Brighter Hell
August 18th, 2004, 04:20 AM
Murano? Might as well call it Spire. It looks the freakin same.
How unoriginal.
this coming from a guy who sings the praises of vancouver, where every new condo looks the same :hahaha:

okay that's an exaggeration but the vancouver green-glass-tower-on-a-podium look is no less homogenous than toronto-style modernism.

sa-dreamer
February 19th, 2005, 09:05 PM
as far as I am concerned, the Murano has a completely different personality than SP!RE... Then there are all the other condo towers in Toronto/ CityPlace...