New Murree Project To Promote Tourism Culture

LAHORE, Pakistan: July 08 (PNS) - Punjab Chief Minister, Ch. Pervaiz Elahi has said that New Murree Development Authority has been established which will ensure completion of all infrastructural development projects, including roads, buildings and provision of potable water to the area within the stipulated period.
He was presiding over a first meeting of New Murree Development Authority, here Wednesday. The meeting was attended By Minister Local Government and Law, Muhamamd Basharat Raja, Chief Secretary Kamran Rasool, Chairman P&D Salman Ghani and secretaries of respective departments.

Chief Minister said that concerted efforts are also being made to preserve forests and natural beauty of Murree and its suburban areas, besides improving atmosphere of other hilly areas. He directed the concerned departments to ensure protection of trees at all cost.

According to a handout, he stressed on implementing a comprehensive programme for undertaking widespread plantation in Murree as well as other areas of the province.

Ch. Pervaiz Elahi maintained that shopping mall, recreational park and other residential facilities would be made available at New Murree. He said roads, buildings and other infrastructure would be of international standard.

He observed that establishment of 'New Murree' would promote tourism culture, adding, it would bear fruitful result on foreign reserves and the national economy.

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New Murree Development Authority set up: Pervaiz

By Our Staff Reporter

LAHORE - Punjab Chief Minister, Ch. Pervaiz Elahi has said that New Murree Development Authority has been established which will ensure completion of all infrastructural development projects, including roads, buildings and provision of potable water to the area within stipulated period.

He was presiding over a first meeting of New Murree Development Authority, here on Wednesday. The meeting was attended by Minister Local Government and Law, Muhammad Basharat Raja, Chief Secretary Kamran Rasool, Chairman P&D Salman Ghani and secretaries of respective departments.

Chief Minister said that concerted efforts are also being made to preserve forests and natural beauty of Murree and its suburban areas, besides improving atmosphere of other hilly areas. He directed the concerned departments to ensure protection of trees at all cost. He stressed on implementing a comprehensive programme for more plantation in Murree as well as other areas of province.

Ch. Pervaiz Elahi maintained that shopping mall, recreational park and other residential facilities would be made available at New Murree. He said roads, buildings and other infrastructure would also be equal to international standard. He observed that establishment of a New Murree would promote tourism culture which would result in strengthening government reserves and national economy.

Election petitions against MPAs adjourned: Election Tribunal of the LHC Wednesday adjourned for September 6 the hearing on three different election petitions against Punjab Assembly Speaker Muhammad Afzal Sahi, Chairman Pakistan Awami Tehreek and MNA Tairul Qadri and MNA Talib Hussain Nakai, son of ex-Punjab chief Minister late Sardar Arif Nakai seeking their disqualification.

Earlier, the respondents informed the court that a division bench of the LHC had stayed the proceedings of the tribunal, hence the hearing be adjourned.
Convict seeks acquittal: A division bench comprising Justice Tassaduq Hussain Jillani and Justice Saeed Akhtar of the LHC has summoned the Superintendent District Jail, Sheikhupura along with complete record for today on the acquittal plea of a female prisoner, convicted in a drug trafficking case.

The petitioner Bano Bibi through her counsel Abid Saqi pleaded that the local police had arrested her on a picket when she was going on her car and allegedly recovered 3 kg charas from her possession. The Anti-Narcotics Court on the basis of prosecution story awarded her 5 years rigorous imprisonment with a fine of Rs 2,00,000, which she prayed to be declared as illegal.

Notice to Assistant Drug Controller: Justice Tassadaq Hussain Jillani of the LHC on a petition of Pacific Pharmaceutical Multan Road has issued contempt notice to Assistant Drug Controller (ADC) Muhammad Arif, who did not allow petitioner to sale life saving drugs in the market.

The petitioner company had imported life saving drugs used in the treatment of asthma after due permission from the government. However, the respondent ADC withheld the consignment. The pharmaceutical company challenged this decision of the ADC in the LHC, which while accepting the petition directed the drug controller to release the consignment.

The petitioner said the ADC had not fully complied with court orders as though he had released the consignment of drugs yet he did not allow the importer to sell the product in the market.

Shujaat briefed on New-Murree project

ISLAMABAD (August 01 2004): Prime Minister Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain was given on Saturday a detailed briefing on the New-Murree project, which will offer high-class facilities to the local and foreign tourists.

Chief Minister Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi was also present at the briefing, which was held in Murree.

The Prime Minister directed the Chief Minister Punjab to ensure transparency in the award of tenders for the project. He said the model project should be completed in line with the international standards.

Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain expressed the hope that the project would attract domestic and foreign investments and would create numerous employment opportunities. The Prime Minister said the New-Murree project must have residential and recreational facilities for the middle class people also.
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Savoy Residences

Savoy Residences is a project of PALMGATE® in association with Islamic Investment Bank. Islamic Investment Bank and PALMGATE have joined hands to provide quality living to those who aspire for a home in the prime location of Islamabad having all the comforts of life.

PALMGATE®, an international consortium heralds its deigns from all over Europe. Based in Copenhagen, Denmark it has undertaken many construction projects in Pakistan. These include both commercial and residential complexes constructed using previously unused deigns and techniques adopted from the developed European cities. A show of out innovative techniques can be judged from the fact that we are using "Aluminium Composite Panels" (Alcop) specially imported from Japan to fix on the exterior of Savoy Residences.

Savoy Residences is located in F-11/1, Islamabad, covering an area of 4840 sq. yrd., the Condominium Complex lies adjacent to double road of F-11 Markaz and directly faces the Park and shopping complex in the serene background of Margalla Hills. We aim to provide you 2 & 4 bed Condominiums, which shall meet all your social needs and are a fine blend of an affluent life style and cultural heritage.

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Before embarking upon this huge challenge, our team of reputed consultants and leading architects carried out a thorough research and evaluation at home and abroad to define what a Condominium should offer to residents of Islamabad. It is this our resolve to provide you with elegance and cosiness of life in consonance with our traditions.

We are committed to maintain international standards from the conception phase to the terminal stage ensuring complete safety and earth proof structural stability. Aesthetically conceived, he Condominiums and complex building cater for even small little things which mean so much to an over burdened house wife like providing separate space for laundry, place for hanging clothes, within peaceful and secure environments. The architectural design offers you complete privacy, independence, and spacious accommodation with maximum outside view.

To ensure comfort and privacy we have provided an elevator for every 2 apartments.

The Management of the Savoy Residences is absolutely convinced that the Condominium, which you wish to own, shall increase the quality of life in general. Once you move in to your Condominium, our mutual relationship shall grow even stronger. Our dedicated staff and Information Desk shall be at your disposal to provide you call maintenance and essential general services at your door step.

Savoy Residences invite you to a fascinating experience and an enviable life style.

Possession of the apartments will InshaAllah be given in December 2005 after the payment of the last instalment.

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Project details

Location Plot#19, F-11/1 Islamabad

Type Luxury apartments

Covered area 1 acre - 4840 sq. yrd.

No. of apartments 69 units

4 BED

Type A 6 units - 3370 sq.ft.
Type B 6 units - 3370 sq.ft.
Type C 7 units - 3210 sq.ft.
Type D 7 units - 3360 sq.ft.
Type E 7 units - 3535 sq.ft.
Type F 7 units - 3475 sq.ft.
Type G 7 units - 3580 sq.ft.

3 BED

Type H1 7 units - 2000 sq.ft.
Type J 1 unit - 2757 sq.ft.

2 BED

Type H2 7 units - 1400 sq.ft.
Type I 7 units - 1395 sq.ft.

Status Now booking - 2, 3 & 4 beds
Under construction

Exp. date of completion December of 2005
(Latest by June 2006)

the design looks different in both the models, the first model, the original one is from 2003, so i guess they have redesigned the building, but i really like the first one, looks luxurious.

I think the redesigned building looks better. It looks more modern and i think Islamabad needs buildings liike that.

look good, any info on how many ppl its gonna house?

look good, any info on how many ppl its gonna house?

not sure..
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These look more like flats than condos but het it's a start. Plus I think Islamabad has a height restriction if I'm not mistaken.

These look more like flats than condos but het it's a start. Plus I think Islamabad has a height restriction if I'm not mistaken.

The Govt seriously needs to get rid of the height restriction.

I hope we dont have a height restriction in Gwadar, and I'm pretty sure we wont! :)

What is the point of a height restriction ?

the point of height restriction is to prevent very large buildingd from fallin over and damagin the city in case of an earthquake, coz pak area has quite a few earthquakes on regular basis, which is why they got heght restriction, doubbt its gonne be in gwadar coz no earth quakes there.

But there is a technology that you put in buildings to prevent it from collapsing during an earth quake. so when there is an earth quake the building shifts.

Launched in September 2003, Green City focuses on providing a better quality of life, much more than any other housing scheme in Lahore. It is envisaged as a revolutionary housing society designed for the new millennium, catering to all of the modern living facilities.
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Awesome yaar !

where did u find this ?? I was looking all over !

more details on this project please .. :)

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TechnoCity Karachi

This upcoming 105,000 Sqft, three Storey IT Mall is in the heart of Karachi's business district. It has a SMC designed HVAC System featuring water source heat pumps coupled with Aircooled condensers permitting retailers control of their areas together with a Direct Fired Absorbtion Chiller powered and futuristically designed air distribution system for the common spaces.

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TechnoCity Corporate Tower
Floors: 17
Type of construction: high-rise building
Style: modern
Status: under construction

Facts
- Located one block from the 22 storey Habib Bank Plaza.
- TechnoCity Corporate Tower in Karachi is a mixed use project with 11 floors of offices atop 4 floors of parking and a two storey retail base.

Companies
Architect: Le Group Arcop
Consultancy: S. Mehboob & Company Consulting Engineers

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TechnoCity Office Tower
Floors: 12
Type of construction: high-rise building
Style: modern
Status: under construction

Facts
- TechnoCity Office Tower in Karachi is a mixed use project with 6 floors of offices atop 4 floors of parking and a two storey retail base.

Companies
Architect: Le Group Arcop
Consultancy: S. Mehboob & Company Consulting Engineers

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Park View Housing
Lahore - The city of a glorious past, and a promising future!

Website: http://www.parkviewestates.co.uk/
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Lahore, the heart of Pakistan, is a city of rich culture and breathtaking architecture.

Whether it's the sky-scraping Minar-E-Pakistan, the astounding beauty of the Shalimar Gardens, the grand Badshahi Mosque, or the robust Shahi Qila braving the test of times, every relic stands tall as a splendid reminder of the majestic eras this lively city has witnessed through the ages. But, while Lahore's history remains a glory, it also is embracing the future and remarkable new realities are taking shape. One such fabulous change is the Park View Housing Society.

Its time to invest in Lahore's most superior, sophisticated and state of the art housing scheme. Park View Housing Scheme caters to all your needs, offering you an ideal location amidst beautiful lush green surroundings, opposite the new Allama Iqbal International Airport. This completely self sufficient and secure housing scheme is designed according to your life style, providing you with the luxury and comfort of life you've always awaited for.

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Construction of Main Boulevard

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What a nice project for Lahore; where is it being built by the way?

:) :) :)

i heard the complex is alsmost complete.. the structure is done. the furnishing and the rest has to be done now.

if it looks like that in real life man, thatd be great, it looks nice man. :runaway:

if it looks like that in real life man, thatd be great, it looks nice man. :runaway:

it'll look better.. :)

the structure is complete and it looks nice.

but all they have to do now is the finishing part :)

i saw the april 2004 pic, but are their any more recent pics of it>?

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Looks quite plain...

Looks quite plain...

yup but its just a concept. the Govt wont approve that structure at all.

after the new PC was unveilled. i think that would set standards for other hotels. so to match the quality and the design, this would never be built :)

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Building castles in the air is one thing, Building them on ground is quite another.

-80% of development work completed.
-Entire development work will be completed by December 2004.
-Ready for construction of your dream house.

Consultants: NESPAK

Architects: Mansoor Mazhar & Associates

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Its time to invest in Lahore's most superior, sophisticated and state of the art housing scheme. Park View Housing Scheme caters to all your needs, offering you an ideal location amidst beautiful lush green surroundings, opposite the new Allama Iqbal International Airport. This completely self sufficient and secure housing scheme is designed according to your life style, providing you with the luxury and comfort of life you've always awaited for.

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Location

In the beautiful surroundings of the new Allam Iqbal International Airport, Lahore - the Park View Housing Society suitably marries all the luxurious of life tin the beauty of nature, to create an ideal living environment for you an your family, in the heart of Pakistan.

-5 Minutes from Defense Housing
-10 Minutes from Fortress Stadium
-15 Minutes from Punjab Assembly

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Download the complete detailed site plan here

PDF file format (http://www.parkviewestates.co.uk/PARKVIEW.PDF)

WOW those are quite a number of phases!

You know it would be interesting to get information to see where the city is growing; seems as though it dosen't have very many options. The city can't grow towards the east mainly because it's VERY close to the Indian Border. It can't grow west because of the Ravi River; although the city could afford tp build bridges I'm quite sure they couldn't afford the cost to clean up after a massive flood. Just look at Dhaka for example; so growing west it out of the question! The only other options are North and South; I was really scared that these new projects wouldn't care and just start building anywhere; thankfully they hade the wits. Most of the projects are happening close to the new International Airport north of the city; haven't heard anything for South Lahore around the Garden Town area yet. Is there something in the south that builders are afraid of?

Hilton have a knack for building small plain hotels ... their first hotel in Dubai was a 4 floor block similar to this concept. However theyve built a new one here now and thats much better ... its about 15 floors ... still quite small though.

its small, and rather dull to be honest, if it opens, then well fair enuff, but dont reckon itll stand out much.

well. as i said. after PC is built. it'll set standards in hotel construction.

so we'll see a lot of steel and glass hotels then. rather than the plain dull look.

Looks horrible come to think of it; in what decade did they design that the 70s'?

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Rehman Gardens Compound is located
on Defence Road adjoining "P" block
Defence Housing Authority. It is
conveniently located within a few miles
from the new Lahore Airport. The
Defence Housing Authority is the most
trendy housing suburb of Lahore.
The new Lahore Airport and Lahore Ring
Road are a mere 5 minutes drive away.
The prime location enables the
homeowner easy access to the best
schools, universities, hospitals,
clubs and shopping malls

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Rehman Gardens Compound offers luxury walk-up
condominiums laid out in garden settings within a self
contained and secure enclosure. In fact it offers a
contemporary style of modern living for families within a
futuristic lifestyle. This luxury compound also offers a very
efficient layout keeping in view the functional requirements of
families. Special emphasis is laid on proper room sizes,
layout of services and the indoor environment.

Rehman Garden Compound has been planned to ensure that
"security" is one of the most important factors for peaceful
living. We also aim to provide strong community living,
provision of Mosque, Swimming Pool, Gymnasium, Community Hall,
Coffee Shop, Super market, Barber Shop and Parks at different
locations within the compound.

Features

Rehman Gardens Compound is a community that gives you a sense
of security and all the amenities of living abroad. Some of the
features of this community are as follows:

-24 Hour Gated Community
-Swimming Pool
-Gymnasium
-Community Hall
-Mosque
-Super Market
-Children Playgrounds
-Coffee Shop
-Wide Carpeted Roads
-Sewerage System
-Underground Telephone Cables
-Guaranteed Upkeep and Maintenance of the Compound

Master Plan

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Floor Plan

Floor Plan 1450 SQFT and Floor Plan 1800 SQFT. These both floor plans have 3 bedrooms with attached bathrooms, Drawing/Dinning room, kitchen, front and rear facing balconies, tiled staircase and storage room.

Floor Plan 1450 SQFT

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Yes this project is VERY close to the new international terminal; I'm still wondering about the noise pollution though...

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Yes this project is VERY close to the new international terminal; I'm still wondering about the noise pollution though...

There is a lot of development close to the terminal.. hmm

not sure about the noise pollution.. but thats not good

Cn, what is the update on this project?

Update that i found..

* 80% of development work completed.

* Entire development work will be completed by December 2004.

* Ready for construction of your dream house.

so cntower,

is the project complete ? or is close to completion ?

Rehmen Gardens are complete; there just finishing touchings left that's all. When I first heard about the project I thought it was a scam; I mean who would build homes that close to a int'l airport but they pulled it off!!! Though many of the people buying the homes are expats who are moving back from North America and Europe.

Good news. so have u been to it ? is it well constructed?

It's not bad; Barhia is still number one on my list because it's huge. R.G. is good too but it's small that's all!

but putting it on a scale of 10 how wud u compare it to the upcoming new projects ?

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A new scheme of Eden Developers, continuing its pioneering endeavour in the pursuit of its commitment to provide competitively priced, high quality homes for the professional and middle class, Eden Canal Villas will contain 3 & 4 bedroom villas in plot sizes ranging from 1 kanal, 5, 10, 12, 12.5 & 15 marlas.

Ideal Location

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Eden Canal Villas is located on the left bank of the canal. It is within striking distance of Thokar Niaz Baig, which is the hub junction for Raiwind Road, Multan Road, Lahore By-Pass and the proposed Lahore Ring Road and the equally important Canal Road linking to important residential and commercial areas of Lahore.

Perhaps the most important development is the nearby Lahore Bus Terminal on Multan Road that is being developed on top priority basis by the Government. This Terminal will generate public and private transport facilities providing fast connections to all parts of Lahore.

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The main entrance to Eden Canal Villas has been designed with unique architectural style that will proudly stand out above all others. It will not only be a landmark feature but will provide a sense of security and safety, which is critically important in present times.

Eden Canal Villas will be an enclave with secure periphery and with restricted and controlled entry, thus, providing a deep sense of security and safety and everlasting enjoyment for the residents.

Services and Facilities

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- Comprehensive development of services such as: roads, water supply,
sewerage disposal, electricity.
- Provision for individual connections for piped gas and telephone services.
- Horticultural development of Roadside Verges and Parks.
- Access to conveniently located commercial centre.
- Formation of Residents Committee to run community affairs.
- One year maintenance by company.

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Eden Canal Villas has been designed to encourage the development of communal living. The centrally located facilities would foster social interaction and lead to harmonious relationship within the community.

Leisure Park and children's play area
Playground
Mosque
Open air community space
Space for Public Building

a really good project from a really good company in a really good location, but its very small only 32 houses.

i heard they were extending the Eden Defence Villas..

so only 32 houses ? thats small, but how big is the area ?

i dont know much abt canal villas but EDEN CITY sure is big. Eden canal villas are located too far away from the dense area its about 25 KMs from KALMA CHOWK.

It's good to see some green areas; I remember when people cared less about them. Now it's really important if you wanna sell your homes...to anybody!

If I'm not mistaken is that a amphatheatre left of the playground?

How is the Air Avenue project coming along ?

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As a commercial district and as a shopping destination, Tariq Road enjoys a unique position, not only in Karachi but also all over the nation. While people widely recognize Tariq Road as the heart of Karachi in terms of shopping, it is not easy to say exactly which point can be termed the heart of Tariq Road itself.

Jumeirah Mall makes its appearance at Tariq Road not only as a new landmark development but also as a conceptual innovation that would transform the shopping culture in Karachi and, in the process, give Tariq Road its glorious new heart. It is going to be a unique project with a number of trendsetting firsts – foremost among which is authenticity and character as a truly international class mall.

Designed to offer modern shopping convenience in a most elegant style, Jumeirah Mall will also serve as a place of indulgence and amusement for the whole family. Thus, creating a magnificence and charm of its own, the Mall will large emotional bonds with its young and old visitors and convert them into loyal customers.

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Truly a five-star Mall with latest trends that adorn the famous malls of Europe, Far East and the Middle East.
Elegant exterior and luxurious interior exquisitely planned with minutest detail to ensure highest standards of quality and aesthetics in finishing and fixtures.
The only project of its kind with two-sided front elevation i.e. entry and exit from both the sides.
Excellent large-size shops and spacious walkways on every floor.
Centrally air-conditioned building with capsule lift, escalators and foolproof backup for uninterrupted power supply.
Largest parking facility at Tariq Road accommodating over 1200 cars, in addition to reserved parking in the basement for shop-owners.
Permanent building maintenance team of the Mall to remain at service all 365 days of the year.

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That’s what separates and distinguishes Jumeirah Mall from all others. It is designed to provide an exciting outing for the entire family and not just the opportunity to do some classy shopping from the widest array of the Mall’s glitzy and fashionable outlets. The great attraction at Jumeirah Mall for the fun-loving family include:
Fun Land
Food Floor
Ice Skating
Bowling Alley
Mini Cinema

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It is no secret to reveal that investment in commercial property at Tariq Road is an option that every businessman would like to go for.

However, Jumeirah Mall adds a great value and a completely new dimension to this cherished choice. Given the concept, the location, the planning and the exclusive features of Jumeirah Mall, it is definitely one up in terms of real estate investment at Tariq Road.

Those going for investment at Jumeirah Mall will start enjoying its benefit soon enough and in the long term it will be a great boon for their future generations.

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this is gona be a nice mall.

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this is just the black and white copy. i saw an advert on geo.

it is all blue, with glass on it, the design is the same.

is this project being built by the Jumeriah international, which are a dubai based company, because the name Jumeriah comes from dubai

I would imagine Jumeirah International is involved in this somehow because otherwise their logo is being used fraudulently.

Even so this project lacks originality, they could have added more local elements to it i.e. Pakistani

Located at enviable spot, SALAAR CENTRE caters perfectly to the requirements of businessmen and shoppers. SALAAR CENTRE is bound to be a successful venture since its Horizon Developer’s most beautifully designed, fully equipped shopping plaza. Only the latest hi-tech facilities will go into its making............More


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SITUATED AT AN IDEAL SPOT

In the heart of the city, at the main entry to Barkat Market, on 13 Babar Block, Main Boulevard, New Garden Town, Lahore, you will come across the site for SALAAR CENTRE. This place happens to be a hustling bustling shopping area. The location ensures that all the major residential regions are within easy reach of SALAAR CENTRE.

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BASIS OF THE BUILDING

The Function, SALAAR CENTRE will fulfill is of a commercial milieu par excellence in the heart of Lahore. We plan to install four shopping floors, lower ground floor, ground floor, mezzanine floor and paradise floor with open corridors and inter connected with escalators, lifts and stairs. Remaining six floors are allotted corporate offices. Besides the parking area outsides the building there are two basement floors allocated exclusively for parking.

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http://www.horizonpk.com

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that dome on top is a revolving resturant.

These projects just keep on coming...week after week!

thats cos real estate is on the boom, all pakistani businessmen want to get in real estate development

There are many projects that haven't put up a Website. So we don't have access to all of them, but will try to get all the latest info.

There are many projects that haven't put up a Website. So we don't have access to all of them, but will try to get all the latest info.

Very true...websites are the last things they ever do or think about...it should be the first in my opinion...

Very true...websites are the last things they ever do or think about...it should be the first in my opinion...

Putting up a website is the most important thing to do.

It gives more exposure to your project, because the site is accessible

from anywhere in the world, which also gives overseas Pakistanis a unique

opportunity to witness the development work being undertaken, or book/buy

residential or commercial property online.

there are still many projects wat have websites but we dnt know them, the marketing for these projects is at zero.

there are still many projects wat have websites but we dnt know them, the marketing for these projects is at zero.

Isn't it amazing,,, the marketing is ZERO, yet they still get sold ! lolz.

this shows the potential in this sector. We can hope some amazing malls in near future.

Bahria Town has planned two 38 storey building with the Malaysian firm to be built in Bahria Town Islamabad. These are quite magnificient buildings and a beautiful design. I saw its rendering in the newspaper. Both in The Jang and Jinnah for 5th November. Good addition to Pakistani skylines.

Excellent stuff !

they i saw the rendering on the bahria town documentry on ary.

Here is the rendering of the project. Thanks to Shahid from UPK.

http://www.urbanpakistan.com/images/project%20renderings/bahria_twin_towers.jpg

do you know wen construction starts,

Wow nice design!

wow nice, islamabad really needs more towers

Aerial View of a part of Bahria Town Islamabad, on going construction.

Thanks to Bahria Town for these pictures.

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those fuckers uprooting the trees and destroying my city's green spaces. They'll burn in hell for this. :mad:

International standard cricket stadium for Islamabad


By Our Sports Reporter

ISLAMABAD, Dec 13: A cricket stadium of international standard in Islamabad could soon become a reality as a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) has now been sent to the chairman of Capital Development Authority (CDA).

Shaharyar M. Khan, the head of Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) told a gathering after inaugurating the Diamond Cricket ground that Islamabad really needed to have a quality stadium. "The stadium will be built either on a short-term or long-term basis and we have dispatched the MoU to Mr (Kamran) Lashari."

He said that since the Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium was not under the PCB's control, therefore the Board could not make investments there. "Teams that play here have complained that the facilities at the stadium are inadequate."

"To improve the state of the stadium, the pavilion will have to be rebuilt but we cannot do that unless and until we have the control of the venue." Shaharyar disclosed the PCB could soon be controlling the stadium in Peshawar and Faisalabad. "Negotiations with the authorities there are on and they are cooperating with us fully."

High Rise Apartments
The project has been sold to Al-Ghurair Giga Group of Dubai who are planning to construct 18/19 towers of twenty five storeys to house High Rise Apartment. Construction is likely to commence in December 2004/January 2005.

this will be made in defence housing in islamabad. more info coming soon.

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Looks cool..

It's not in Blue Area; Islamabad isn't really controlling where the apartments go up they just let them throw up any apartments anywhere just as long as it's the below the height restrictions.

They should follow Lahore's example; they are planning really good.

Nope. CDA has annouced yesterday that the new highrises will be allowed in the 5 new sectors that will be added to the city !

So basically, they have allowed highrises there, and will also allow highrises in Blue Area, but some here and there doesn't matter :)

Nope. CDA has annouced yesterday that the new highrises will be allowed in the 5 new sectors that will be added to the city !

So basically, they have allowed highrises there, and will also allow highrises in Blue Area, but some here and there doesn't matter :)

Well Blue Area is a commerical zone isn't it? Just like Sim City it's the same concept; that's why no apartments are being made there.

Well lets see what happens.

I never mentioned apartments in my statement, all I said was highrise, and a highrise in Blue Area would always be a commercial one, can't build a apartment there. lol

Yeah but aren't highrises for living apartments?

Who cares...have you seen the pictures somebody posted from there MSN Group? Did you see the picture of the train and MCB Towers? What is the train doing there?

Nope. CDA has annouced yesterday that the new highrises will be allowed in the 5 new sectors that will be added to the city !

So basically, they have allowed highrises there, and will also allow highrises in Blue Area, but some here and there doesn't matter :)

aargh! I can't see the image here aswell... I'd appreciate if someone can post this pic on someother server.

I don't exactly recall where I read this but CDA is inviting owners of plots/buildings in Blue Area to construct highrises (by demolishing the buildings).

Here ya go Huit,

http://www.urbanpakistan.com/images/project_renderings/dha_islamabad_highrises.jpg

Thanks again :)

whats with the crazy watermarks pakboy send them to me so i can do them properly!

I think it's been completed.

:horse: :soon: :righton: :righton: :righton: KARACHI: Magnetic train project gets go-ahead


By Azizullah Sharif

KARACHI, Dec 27: A high-level meeting in Islamabad has given a go-ahead to the city government's plan of introducing a magnetic train from Sohrab Goth to Mere weather Tower , and a summary of the project is now likely to be moved to President Pervez Musharraf shortly.

The meeting, chaired by the Planning Commission's deputy chairman, Dr Akram Sheikh, gave the contract of the plan to an American firm 'Meglev' which has agreed to complete the project on Built-Operate-and-Transfer basis at an estimated cost of US dollars 289 million.

The meeting was attended, among others, by MNA Dr Farooq Sattar, city Nazim Niamatullah Khan, federal finance and railways secretaries, Member (Infrastructure and Planning), CDGK's Mass Transit departmnt's director-general while the American Meglev firm was represented by Siemens Pakistan's managing director, Sohail Wajahat, and chief executive officer of Infrastructure Development Corporation, a joint company of American Meglev firm.

The proposed project, commonly known as 'Corridor No 1', envisages introduction of a magnetic train on 17.5 kilometre double and single elevated tracks to be laid between Sohrab Goth and Tower.

The CDGK had earlier signed a preliminary implementation agreement with a Chinese firm, China National Machinery and Equipment Group (CNMEG), following an agreement signed with the governor for implementation of Rail-Based Mass Transit System for Karachi (Corridor No 1) on credit-financing basis at an estimated cost of US dollars 569.3873 million.

The preliminary accord was, however, subject to the approval of conditions of loan, etc., by the federal government. However, the Planning Commission objected to the preliminary agreement on the plea that its contract should have been given to such a firm which is willing to undertake the project on BOT basis, instead of credit financing basis.

Later, the president formed a committee under the chairmanship of Planning Commission's deputy chairman, Dr Akram Sheikh, to formulate its recommendations and it was after receiving the committees' suggetions that the high-level meeting on Friday decided to accept the American Meglev's offer of undertaking the project on BOT basis. The summary of the project is now expected to be submitted to President Musharraf soon for getting his final approval.

Sources in the CDGK said the Corridor-1, to be completed in about three years, will not only provide a fast mode of transport to Karachiittes, but would also help ease traffic flow on M A Jinnah Road, S M Taufic Road and Shahrah-i-Pakistan, where vehicular traffic often presents a scene of a 'traffic jungle', partly owing to a large number of number of vehicles taking this route and partly because of inefficient system of enforcing traffic rules and regulations on the part of traffic police.

The tracks for introducing magnetic train will initially be laid between Sohrab Goth and Mere weather Tower, but it will be later extended to New Sabzimandi on Superhighway, the sources added.

The terms and conditions on which the contract of the Corridor-1 project has been assigned to Meglev will be unfolded by the City Nazim shortly after it is approved by the president, sources added.

Sources: Dawn 28 December 2004

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not a suprise to me cause i already knew a maglav system was to be installed but i thought it was a canadian firm that was doing it!

Great news!

I guess this is the Maglev Train;

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BUT! Would you really like to see Pan peeks and Cigrette buds lying in that beautiful train :eek2:

J/K Great news for Karachi, but are they gonna build underground tracks aswell? Tariq Road/Bahadurabad has no space for ground tracks so I hope they build them underground (Maybe in 6-7 years). Lets see the first Corridor get started!

:cheers:

Yeah this is great news, there are some people who wuestion the use of a maglev for an MRT service and would prefer it was used on the Pakistan Rail Netwrok across Pakistan instead. However, I think this will certainly give Karachi a modern look ... and relieve congestion too ... so good stuff then !

Yeah this is great news, there are some people who wuestion the use of a maglev for an MRT service and would prefer it was used on the Pakistan Rail Netwrok across Pakistan instead. However, I think this will certainly give Karachi a modern look ... and relieve congestion too ... so good stuff then !
so we have a overhead railway and a maglav system in Karachi so who is to ssay we are not developing Karachi?

MAGLEV in Karachi; it's really odd no website has been made yet or maybe they just don't care about websites at the moment.

InterGlob has developed over the last 10 years the XL (eXtra Large) Second Generation of Magnetic trains, the Magno-Jet TransCar (in detail see www.carglider.org) for the 10 time higher car traffic compared to passenger traffic.

In comparison to the old wheel rails systems, which also have developed trains to transport cars, InterGlob group has developed a fast side loading system. Further on Gas, Cargo, Minerals can be transported with the XL Magno-Jet over long distances very economic.

As a long term target the huge consumer blocks of 2 billion populations (China and India) should be connected with the gas producer countries like the former Russian block, the Gulfregion or the South Asia states Indonesia/Malaysia/Myanmar.

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Other fields of activities are mainly infrastructure projects, like high-tech high-rise buildings and clean energy, especially offshore wind energy with large (5MW) turbines.

InterGlob Group has already invested and spend more than 30 Million Dollars in the developing of XL Magno-Jet Projects Second Generation, Bridges, Windenergy and for high-tech/high rise buildings.

As may be seen at the Website www.carglider.org , InterGlob Euro-Arab Group has achieved during the years a unique monopoly position, which is honoured by various governments (see list) having given the award for tendered projects.

This is due to the integrated Investment banking and project developing work of InterGlob (besides the unique concept), which is focussed on the need of governments for environmental friendly traffic solutions.

InterGlob has a share in investment banking companies in Germany and other countries. The management/holding company of the InterGlob Euro-Arab Group is a private owned Swiss based company under the Swiss Offshore regulations, which do not request international group balances. Nevertheless InterGlob is proud to announce that the turnover of the InterGlob group is expected for this year to be in the range of a 9 digits amount (see highlights).

Since 10 years InterGlob Group, assisted by Arab Capital (dormant partners), has developed the XL (eXtraLarge) Second Generation Magno-Jets (TransCar) and has developed accordingly more than 20 Magno-Jet train projects (see reference list below).

InterGlob, assisted by their Arab partners has formed very mighty consortia in Middle East and South Asia, to handle project amounts in the range of some USD billions. InterGlob Groups works together with German companies, which are being active in the field of Magno-Jets.

Like the revolution in air-traffic 50 years ago (when propeller airplanes were replaced by Jet-planes) a similar revolution takes now place in ground-traffic initiated by the Magno-Jet Mono-Rails.

InterGlob is leading with the XL Second Generation of Magnetic Jet-Trains (TransCar) in today’s high tech projects revolutionizing the traffic on streets and highways.

A great deal of “manpower” is wasted in traffic on the highways, as was in the old days with manned-switchboard telephony. Today the telecommunication problem is solved and international calls are automatically connected in seconds. This revolution took place over the last couple of years solving unnecessary time- waste in the traffic by cars now being piggybacked onto super fast jet-trains.

Like earlier in the mentioned big revolution in air-traffic, where the slow propeller airplanes were “outrun” by the jet airplanes (which constituted a quantum leap from 300 km/h to 900 km/h), with the magnetic-jet train TransCar, there will be an even higher quantum leap from 65 miles/h for a self driving car up to 600 km/h (about 400 miles/h), piggy backed by the TransCar above the highways on columns on the middle strip between the lanes.

InterGlob, backed by Arab Capital participation has financially developed this advanced Magno-Jet system, and is undertaking the investment banking as well as the financial management for the different projects in many countries of the world (see description). It is planned to exceed $ 1 Billion in equity raised for these projects until the end of this Year.

Besides the strong basis which has been built up in the Gulf-region, InterGlob Group has facilitated one of the biggest consortium for the projects, which are in progress there. InterGlob group has project references, which are in the different stages from “awarded” to “under negotiation” (besides other activities like Wind-Power-Plants).

Having developed a project, InterGlob normally forms an EPC (Building) Consortium which build the Project turnkey for the government or the Owner/Investor consortium.


Some Selected Projects

Pakistan

Lahore Magno Metro (to Airport) - 35 km - Tender; awarded
Karachi Magno Metro - 120 km - Tender, qualified, MOU

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More to come

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By the wise politics of the President of Pakistan, Musharaf, it becomes obvious, that Pakistan is on the way to become the central oil and gas hub for central Asia which brings wealth and economic growth to country itself and to the neighbour countries.

Suddenly Pakistan become a major player in distribution of the gold of the economies (gas and oil) for India as well as for the peace of all other surrounding countries.

This will be a dramatic change in the whole area. Hardly nobody has imagined, that President Musharaf could have achieved the brilliant chances of economic wealth of his country in such a short time. His decisions – which was not always easy - beginning and during the war, which was often criticised. But the criticisers has not seen the broader skim of this politic and could not have foreseen that this decisions of the president will be the start an new future of wealth and freedom for the whole area.

This great political achievements falls together with the progress in high-tech transportation technology improvements, which allows Pakistan to become the central energy hub for central Asia. As known, china has started the new technology by building the magnet train in Shanghai, which will be in operation already this year after 1 year building time.

This new technology based on BOT (financed from outside) together with the wise decision of the president will have mainly the following benefits for the Pakistan itself and the also for the surrounding countries which passes on the Magno Trade Artery.

Thanks to the Magno Transcar, Pakistan will develop into an energy-trading hub for the central Asia region, and as a result increase their export-balance by some billions per year, and will increase the infrastructure and the economy of the country enormously.

The Magno TransCar can transport Oil and CNG (compressed natural gas) from the gas fields of Turkmenistan, Iran and other Countries across Afghanistan into Pakistan destined to the special purpose Port of Gwadar and other areas. Therefore Pakistan will become an energy trading hub for this area. See maps.

Depending on the volume of this energy trading hub business, the export balance of Pakistan can be increased up to $ 10 billion per year.

Compared to any pipe-line, the magnetic Transcar is superior in regards to a number of new qualifications :
- 10 time higher capacity in transporting gas or oil products.
- instead of pipe-iron buried in the ground, the country gets a main traffic artery and improves the infrastructure dramatically for the transport of goods and passengers
- only 1 hour between Islamabad and Multan, only 2 hours for Islamabad and Karachi running every 5 minutes
- The part of the investment price for oil- gas products is only half of the investment costs as for a pipeline.
- The project will bring high-tech and employment to Pakistan.

Is that the proposed route of the magnetic train? I thought it was only for Karachi.

Karachi will have the Passenger train while that route is probably for the Freight train, that will carry goods, ETC all across Pakistan

That route if served by a maglev would be a superb form of transport across Pakistan. It would kick out domestic air travel within seconds.

holy piece of crap!

i thought it was olny for Karachi!

but what about jahil people who will eventually screw it all up

Prime Minister reviews Karachi Mass Transit Scheme

KARACHI: Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz reviewed the status of multi-million dollars Karachi Mass Transit Scheme at a high level meeting held at the Governor House here on Monday The meeting was attended by Sindh Governor Dr Ishrat-ul-Ebad, Chief Minister Dr Arbab Ghulam Rahim, Senior Finance Minister Sardar Ahmed, Sindh Planning Minister Shoaib Ahmed Bukhari, Sindh Transport Minister Adil Siddiqi, Advisor on Local Government Waseem Akhtar, MNA Dr Farooq Sattar, Deputy Chairman Planning Commission Dr Akram Shaikh and DG Mass Transit Malik Zahirul Islam.

The meeting was informed that the City District Government has already signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with a foreign company for construction of Corridor-I of Mass Transit Plan on BOT basis.

The Prime Minister directed that possibilities be explored for extending the scheme to include the construction of corridors II to VI for a cost effective mode of mass transit affordable for commuters also on BOT basis. He pointed out since the project involved huge investment of the company constructing the project on BOT basis, therefore, it could not have taken off without the assistance of Federal Government.

Shaukat Aziz told the meeting the present government keenly desired to provide a fast transport mode for the people of Karachi.

Besides the Mass Transit Scheme, he said the government had already decided to revive the Karachi Circular Railway and initial preparations for its immediate start were being completed by Pakistan Railways in collaboration with the provincial government, while both Federal and Sindh Governments were in total agreement for revival of that project.

It may be mentioned here that, initially the Karachi Mass Transit Project was initiated by City District Government which also signed an MoU without taking the Federal and Sindh governments into confidence and no company could take up the project without the sovereign guarantee of the Federal Government.

Ok Im a little confused here, the City Govt. is thinking of launching a local train on KCR tracks. Then we have news of the KCR being revived itself, then we hear about the Magnetic train .. whats going on?

Are we going to get a local locomotive or a Magnetic one? And aren't they going to unveil the train or the tracks before Jan 15th?

Can anybody explain this :S?

ITS DEFINETLY MAGLAV!

Pakistan has been looking into it for a long time now!

Those maps don't lie...but I want to see something with my OWN eyes.

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Main Entrance

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Jamia Masjid

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Parks

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Main Boulevard

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Water Tower

Computer Model of Layout

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http://dhai.com.pk/images%204%20photo%20gallary/small%201/new%20entry/Space%20city.jpg

That sadly the only image I can find; someone help!

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For more information:

176 Cranbrook Road
Ilford Essex
IG1 4LX
United Kingdom
Tel : +44 (0) 20 8554 0066
Fax: +44 (0) 20 8554 1566

Is this U/C ? and where is the site at ? I'll try and find out more about this if you can please provide details.

Thank You.

i dont understand why this huge project doesnt get any publicity. :S

Yeah I mean its the 5th today, just 10 days left to the Inauguration but there hasn't been any media reports about what train is going to be used, what tracks will be upgraded.

Neither have they published any pictures regarding the train (Magnetic). I have a strong feeling that either they'll drop the Magnetic train and run a local locomotive from PR's fleet or delay it till Feb or March.

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Nice pictures

This is certainly an interesting project ... whats this about, space research?

i think its an entertainment complex

ok ... so something like a theme park based on space or something. Thats not bad at all ... it would be fun and educational at the same time.

if it is about space research..then China must have designed it. Pakistan cannot have anything original in space research. :bash:

Well i guess the same goes for India

Ifs its about space research then russia probaly designed it. India can not have anything original in space research

if it is about space research..then China must have designed it. Pakistan cannot have anything original in space research. :bash:

Who is this idiot who doesn't know about India [See his India posting], carries a India flag, calls himself GoIndia and bashes Pakistan?

People who register just to bash up other countries or nations carrying flags end up in the dustbin.

Sure heading the Raghu way.

:cheers:

Space City is entertainment and educational; that design is really nice.

you need to shut up!

you are the ignorant fool here! i think you are a member who was banned here before because its very similar to another idiot at SSC

MORE ON THE PROJECTS:

it will include a 3d cinema showing you a documentry of the universe and will also have a space museum.

Well since 28th Dec, 04' we have't had any news regarding the revival of the KCR. They said 15th of Jan, we'll its 14th today .. I guess we'll see it pushed back by another month or so? :|

i just saw on ARY, they said the worlds biggest bridge will be constructed to connect karachi with bundle island. will also have a tram on it.

other news is from lahore,

- gov have decided to construct footpaths on the side of roads everywere in lahore, (all of the private owned societys allready have them)

- PACE mall on link road is just about complete now, they said it will open soon. link road has also really developed and is turning real urban, it allready has a few other malls under construction there. the pace on mm alam road is still u/c, it would take about 15 months more to complete.

- sheraton hotels will be constructed a 5 star hotel in lahore soon, also one of indias biggest hotel company obrois are also coming lahore,

- there is also a 40 storey tower coming up on main boulvard, gulberg. main boulvard will become a mini shiek zayed road :)

- also this is abit old, there is a multiplex cinema coming to fortress stadium, construction did start a while ago and is in full swing right now.


more news coming soon, also if you go around lahore you will see a huge construction boom and a really really big one around airport and raiwind road. there also many nice low risers being made,

and yeh if you dnt know wat bundle island is, its a new man made island being made in the sea near karachi, will have mnay high risers on it. construction is going on at the moment. BI will be very very big, it will be much bigger then the palm in dubai.

holy son of a crap!!!


manmade island with highrisers!

and Longest bridge what in gods name is going on?

well yeh, dnt tell me you didnt know about bundle island, there was a video up here on it about 2 months ago.here it is again, go to http://www.primerosol.com/ site isnt working right now, but i d/l on my pc if u wnat it i will send it throught msn.

Where Pakistan loses out to places such as Dubai is in the marketing department. If they are building an island that is potentially even greater in magnitude than the palm then why is it that if we ask a random person they wouldnt have heard of bundle island. Thats because Dubai robustly market their mega projects and we do not ... I really dont know why.

paise yaar!!!

anyways its quite sad i just found out about this even though i live on the internet

We should all get together and make press releases send them to media world-wide ive already got 1000's of email addresses + working few ventures to promote pak

and yeh if you dnt know wat bundle island is, its a new man made island being made in the sea near karachi, will have mnay high risers on it. construction is going on at the moment. BI will be very very big, it will be much bigger then the palm in dubai.
woah, nice! :D is it possible to post more details on bundle island? any info on when is it due to be completed or any details on the phases in which it will be constructed? This sounds like Big news for Pakistan's prospects of bringing in more major foreign investors! :)

We should all get together and make press releases send them to media world-wide ive already got 1000's of email addresses + working few ventures to promote pak
Regarding your domains you need to change the nameservers by today or else the WHM will disable you Cpanel due too incativity :)

Well they could have thought up a better name for it ... Bundle! But that's good news .. actually it may sound stupid but I want all the f'n counsulates/embassies on that island, clear out Karachi's traffic!

So if you want to apply for a Visa, just take that 'long bridge' down to .... Bundle island ... ah paradise!

Lol.

I like the idea of Lahore having it's own sort of Sheikh Zayed Road.

Yaar.. Bundle Island won't be a man made ISLAND.. Bundle Island already exists! Its on the Eastern Coast of Karachi, but the plan is to "develop" Bundle Island.

Bundle Island isn't much far from Manora Island. And the CDGK is currently doing some work on it. There are plans to develop Manora into a tourist spot.

We should all get together and make press releases send them to media world-wide ive already got 1000's of email addresses + working few ventures to promote pak

Great Great Great IDEA!!!

I think we need to take our efforts of promoting Pakistan to the next level now. And this aggressive strategy of informing the organistaion will be step forward.

Let us all do our share of work...:)

Is there any news about Asias biggest shopping centre in Karachi?

We should all get together and make press releases send them to media world-wide ive already got 1000's of email addresses + working few ventures to promote pak

Omar, thats quite a good idea, we could work on that.

Good to know this bridge will have light rail transport.

Any idea on what that "Island" will look like? I would like to see a "Cresent/Star" shaped one representing Pakistan's flag .. Now that would be awesome!

An island in that shape would be absolutely awesome, but if what sultan said is right, then i think it appears to be an island which already exists and wil be therefore in the shape of an ordinary .... island lol. The good thing is the expansive building plans that they have for this island.

Yeh definatley need to do something asap

Can we get some picture's of that island? Its really sad to see none of this is on a "Website" either CDGK's or anyother's. I wonder when the "Internet" era will really take over Pakistan!

Hell I could'nt find the Passport Office's website so Bundle Island.com is far away!

Won't this become the LONGEST SUSPENSION bridge in the world? Anyway they still have to design it but the longest right now is in Hong Kong right...or in Japan?

What is the length of the longest right now?

And I also agree...bundle island?

Yeah maybe a Futuristic name .. Island One!

But Bundle Island definately .. sucks?

Yeah maybe a Futuristic name .. Island One!

But Bundle Island definately .. sucks?
sounds mysterious to me :)

you guys dont understand that the road will need to be counstructed before we can develop the island!

well yeh ofcourse unless every developer wants to buy his own aeroplane or ship to get to the island, lol

so you think they will build a airport tooo?
how big is the island?

its quite big i heard and know there wont be an airport, maybe a small sea port.

ive never seen it but have heard its quite big, i did read somewere once that bundle island is were all of karachi juck is thrown, dnt know how true that was thought. but they will clean it all up.

well yeh marketing in pak is really low, maybe we should all email dawn and jung and request a real estate development section in there newspapers and website.

Okay guys i uploaded the video for you all because primesols site is down for some weird reason.

http://forums.pakcafe.com/index.php?showtopic=80

ok i got the whole area for bundle island, it is 250 acres big.

there is quite alot of development to happen on BI

-a us firm is to make a Karachi Technology Island City (KiTC) costing 6 billion rupees.
-there is huge investment by a saudi group, who are going to make 7-Star hotel, water park, safari, health club, animal rides, court yard, aquarium, bowling, ice skating, boat rides, a guest marina, restaurant, hospital and entertainment centre.


whole island will be completed by end 2007.

the same saudi group will invest 200 million dollars to build a tram all over in karachi and will also go to bundle island.

monoro island isnt that far Manora Island is a beach resort with a lighthouse, five km from Keamari, near Karachi Port. it is also were ibrahim dawood now lives and has many residants, also the beach there is one of the best.

Abey guys! Don't get so excited. and discuss about "what the island will look like" !

The Island alread exists! .. Its just going to be built on by a Saudi firm that plans to invest $500m in this bundle island project.

The Govt said that the "Saudi firm failed to start the work on time", well, there isn't anything being built right now. I hope they start work on the project soon.

You can see the video at the following link, just click on Bundle Island and enjoy:

http://www.urbanpakistan.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=2

Abey guys! Don't get so excited. and discuss about "what the island will look like" !

The Island alread exists! .. :S
i am more intrest in the size :cheers:

^ Hmm.. Yeah! Should be a medium sized Island. I hope. :D

i am more intrest in the size :cheers:


250 acres i said.

And a 7 star hotel too, something to compete with Dubai.

What exactly will be built on this island; are they planning to make it a tourist attraction? I heard about them laying down tracks for a tram.

http://www.savoyresidences.com/images/gn/04_2004/images/DSC02471.JPG


http://www.savoyresidences.com/images/gn/04_2004/images/DSC02475.JPG

What exactly will be built on this island; are they planning to make it a tourist attraction? I heard about them laying down tracks for a tram.


well the goverment opened the island to develop it.

there are so far 2 big projects,

1. saudi group making 7 star hotel, water park, safari, health club, animal rides, court yard, aquarium, bowling, ice skating, boat rides, a guest marina, restaurant, hospital and entertainment centre.
which will be completed by end of 2007.

2. a us firm making a technolgy island city, im sure youve heard of this. costing 6 billion rupess.


right now they are cleaning the island up and i think constuction on the bridge has started.

US Firm Brings $100m for Karachi Technology Island City



Naveed Ahmad


ISLAMABAD Oct 5 (PNS) - While the IT industry world over face tough times, a US company –AccessCapital - is all set to bring $100m (Rs 6 billion) in a joint venture with and Pakistan Software Houses Association (PASHA) and Karachi City District Government (KCDG) services to set up Karachi Technology Island City (KiTC) .

The KiTC will attract Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) and with the enterprise support systems and venture capital funding facilitated by IDEA Pakistan (a joint venture between AccessCapital LLC and EDP Services (Pvt.) Ltd), a positive environment will exist for nurturing and growing Pakistani SME\'s, Hamza Matin, EDP chief and driving behind the Thai JV’s arrival in Pakistan, told The News .

Some 250 acres island located just offshore Karachi Creek, KiTC would focus its activities on manufacturing and industrial engineering; Information Technology and multimedia; biotechnology (emphasizing research and development); commercialisation and human resource development; and environmental technology .

KTiC will comprise of a high quality physical environment with an advanced telecommunications infrastructure for indigenous and inward investment technology companies. KTiC will become a hub of technology and knowledge based activity with strong diffusion impact throughout Pakistan .

To realise the above objectives and take up the required activities the KCDG teamed up with IDEA Pakistan & AWT to come up with a concept for expanding beyond the boundaries within which Karachi currently operates and build a significant amount of infrastructure capacity .

The mega project is aimed at developing an international level Karachi Technology Island City (KTiC) with the help of international donor agencies and foreign investors to help institutionalise & internationalise the metropolitan’s IT industry .

The KTiC is planned to be “the best in providing the infrastructure, facilities and services related to the development of knowledge-based industries based on the immediate and pressing needs of Pakistan” .

“The park, which will be home to a number of inward investment projects, will have a core facility for incubating and growing new Pakistani & international technology companies and will include a number of spin-off campus enterprises. The Park will be linked to a global network of such centers,” says a concept document of the plan .

KCDG, the largest city government in Pakistan representing a population of over 15 million, would be providing land the bundle island land with basic infrastructure as equity in the project. There shall be a mutual exchange of ideas/possibilities depending on the feasibility of each project. Decisions will be made by consensus between KCDG, AccessCapital, EDP Services and PASHA .

KCDG shall follow rules and guidelines for assigning and operating BOT/BOO projects. This MoU shall be subject to the approval of the provincial government of Sindh and the federal government of Pakistan .

AccessCapital and EDP will manage & provide technical assistance to KTiC in generating & arranging investments for the development of KTiC on a build operate transfer (BOT) and/or build operate own (BOO) basis under the patronage & assistance of Pakistan Software Houses Association (PASHA). Army Welfare Trust (AWT) would provide technical support in design, development, management & maintenance of the project .

The financial benefits and responsibilities of the KTiC project will be shared by parties as per terms and conditions to be negotiated and agreed upon at a later date. The financial details outlining profits and project accounting will be as per agreement to be signed at a later date .

It is noteworthy that the KTiC will work closely with local Pakistani universities such as LUMS, IBA, QAU and Fast ICS, however, a key objective is to establish a global knowledge network allowing the participation of educational institutions from around the world .

This unique assembly of Karachi City District Government, IDEA Pakistan and AWT has all that it takes to come up with a concept to expand beyond the boundaries within which Karachi currently operates and build a significant amount of infrastructure capacity .

However, the project still depends largely on how the partners team up with each other against law and order problems and official bureaucratic attitudes .

KTiC is intended to provide specific long-term advantages to tenants and helpmeet their developmental and operational needs. Some of the key advantages enjoyed by the tenants in the technology park will include the ability to locate in close proximity to like-minded companies who are involved in the development or utilization of new and evolving technologies, fostering unique opportunities for positive interaction; It would also provide the companies access to shared services and amenities which will include video-conference facilities, multi-media meeting rooms, product display areas, and hiker/biker trails connected with the city-wide trails system .

A strategic location near the Defense Housing Authority (DHA) would be availed for provision of housing opportunities, schools, a Golf Course with five star hotels, and a marina club .

In an impressive ceremony chaired by the minister for science and technology, Dr Atta-ur-Rahman, Karachi District Nazim Naimatullah Khan Advocate, AccessCapital representative Raja Sohail Bashi, Managing Director of AWT Lt Gen Parwaiz Masood, CEO of EDP Services Syed Hamza Matin and President of Pakistan Software Houses Association Zain I Syed would sign the detailed agreement on the project in Karachi on tomorrow (Tuesday) .

Nice pictures of ditches and mud, cntower!!! I have never seen such beautiful mud and ditches before. Nice work!!

Ever heard of a construction site?

Where did you come from?

Ever heard of a construction site?

Where did you come from?

Apparently he hasn't!

But there is a technology that you put in buildings to prevent it from collapsing during an earth quake. so when there is an earth quake the building shifts.

:D!!! Technology! Bro this is like the easy way out .. yeah we should definately have that technology to prevent plus I dont even think we have "Massive" earthquakes (Japan?) so I guess the easy way out for builders is to just build 10 storey flats

But there is a technology that you put in buildings to prevent it from collapsing during an earth quake. so when there is an earth quake the building shifts.

How can u put technology in buildings? By the way, what is the price of apartments in Savoy Residences?

:D!!! Technology! Bro this is like the easy way out .. yeah we should definately have that technology to prevent plus I dont even think we have "Massive" earthquakes (Japan?) so I guess the easy way out for builders is to just build 10 storey flats

Fahad, we must aim higher, build taller and not just be satisfied with 10 storeys. Why not build50 storeys and above. Please do not make fun of the builders who are trying to improve pakistan.

Is there any news about Asias biggest shopping centre in Karachi?

Wow! Do you have any news links or pics?

Go back to your indian forum

CoolAllen : Your not .. Cool

Is there any news about Asias biggest shopping centre in Karachi??


yes its in the port complex. in clifton.

add this to islamabad

add this

add this!

That looks more like a Public Toilet then a Hotel .. esp. Hilton! (Paris Hilton?)

Add this!

They still havent started the construction .. its right opposite Dolmen Mall

The mall (Jumeirah) looks big in the Picture's but actually it'll be build on a very small place ..

Tariq Road is filled with Malls, we have two right beside Jumeirah which are moreless empty as most "Brand" shops are in Dolmen .. I wonder how Jumeirah will attract business!

are you sure its not the toilet room for hilton.

I would imagine Jumeirah International is involved in this somehow because otherwise their logo is being used fraudulently.

Even so this project lacks originality, they could have added more local elements to it i.e. Pakistani
Like what?

a built in Madrasa? :bash:

:lol:

Huum but he does raise a good point; what could we add to this to make it "Pakistani"?

CoolAllen : Your not .. Cool

I will let you know when I need ur opinion, which will probably be never.... By the way, what are you the Head Advisor of? of morons? LOL...People like you bring the forum into disrepute and spoil the good name of Pakistan the world over. If you do not have information to share please do not use the forum to abuse people. :gunz:

If I'm not mistaken it was YOU who started the abuse in the first place. Play nice and you'll be treated nice...that's the rule.

I will let you know when I need ur opinion, which will probably be never.... By the way, what are you the Head Advisor of? of morons? LOL...People like you bring the forum into disrepute and spoil the good name of Pakistan the world over. If you do not have information to share please do not use the forum to abuse people. :gunz:

So did I use any abusive words in my post? I said your not "Cool" which you certainly proved in your Childish ignorant post. Well as they say .. The truth is always bitter!

Hop along clown or we'll book you for espionage .. Yeah we all know who you are so get lost!

Could be someone we know...very well around here.

Former members maybe?

It's now the 20th...what's up? :lol:

Don't worry something will happen...just not on time sadly.

That looks more like a Public Toilet then a Hotel .. esp. Hilton! (Paris Hilton?) :bash:

Very funny!! As if you have seen such a big Public Toilet in your life! Why do you guys abuse the employment oppurtunities that foreign institutions bring?

Ive had him banned and now hes re registered as skyscrapersgalore.

I guess it'll start in Feb/March .. and I can tell you it'll be a let down .. I fear they might bring in those old choo choos and paint it yellow for some reason!

Lol in the opposite lane where i live, they have poles of the colour yellow!

http://www.ahedassociates.com/images/Lemeridein_r8_c2.gifhttp://www.ahedassociates.com/images/Lemeridein_r8_c6.gif

http://www.ahedassociates.com/images/Lemeridein_r10_c18.gif

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http://www.ahedassociates.com/images/Lemeridein_r10_c18.gif

Impressive indeed! When are they going to start the construction work?

Actually, that design is not that bad. After the construction of too many glass and steel buildings, a building like this will look like a premium, because it would then standout. Although I know, that allover India and Pakistan, people really want to see alot more buildings like those in the west. Maybe there's a reason why this building should be build! ;)

Good one for Islamabad...lets hope that's a revolving restaurant!

The inside looks nice...the outside dosen't. Ok lets just say they keep this design; at least change the colour to something more...bright at least.

Looks gloomy and dead.

I got some news on the KCR;

According to revival plan, the first phase of the project would take three years to complete at an estimated cost of Rs20 billion. Phase one of the project should be implemented immediately and ought to be completed in 3 years at a cost of Rs12 billion.

The consultants have recommended that the dual track for the KCR should take place along with the construction of the infrastructure in phase-1. The first phase will also include supply of locomotives, bogies and the development of the railway stations.

A bus shuttle service will also be linked with each KCR station. Initially, the KCR service will start from Drigh Colony to Karachi Cantt. Station via Nazimabad and Wazir Mansion in the first phase.

The second phase envisages extension of the circular railway to low income areas. It was suggested that the circular railway system should be connected to the Quaid-e-Azam International Airport, Orangi Town, New Karachi, Surjani Town, Baloch Colony, Landhi and Korangi.

Phase-2 of this project is to be completed at an estimated cost of Rs8 billion in which entire system would be modernized.

The fares being considered for the feasibility are Rs5 for 10 km, Rs10 for 10-20 km, and Rs15 for a journey between 20 to 30 km.

The federal government has also considered that an effective commuting system for the convenience of city commuters is of vital importance. It is suggested that in most of world metropolitan city arrangements and management of a commuter train system is responsibility of the metropolitan and provincial authority instead of running by the national railways.

The consultants said that locomotives and other equipment with the railways at present are not suitable for any urban mass transit programme, as the world over mostly diesel multiple units with attachments are used for running the urban transport.

The present government, it may be noted, taking special interest in developing a sound and effective communication infrastructure which includes construction of new roads, highways and complete overhauling of the railway system in Pakistan.

any more news or updates on the Maglev?

Looks Awesome! great architecture!

:wtf: That building looks more like a physics institute than a hotel.

Well no .. It is just freaking amazing that the confusion created by the City Govt. is out of this world!

Here's what we'v heard over the couple of months;

1) KCR is being revived

2) KCR is not being revived, the City Govt. will run trains on KCR Tracks

3) KCR is being revived and the trains are being prepaired at Lahore

4) Magnetic train project gets go ahead

Now where the F*** will the Magnetic be run on? I swear the City Govt. .... ATLEAST CLARIFY THE SITUATION!! TELL US WHEN THE MAGNETIC WILL BE RUN, OR WHAT KIND OF TRAINS ARE THEY GOING TO BE USING .. AND WHEN WILL IT BE REVIVED! GODDAMN IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR JAN 15TH .. DARN SLOWPOKES!

Ok I couldnt resist it ..

Fahad ... take a deeo breath ... count to 10 and then calm down !! :lol: Have you got some type of a stake in KCR ... you get so worked up over it :lol:

Yes I do because;

1) I dont want to ride Buses because they suck, Esp. Mini-buses

2) I dont want to ride in a Taxi/Rickshaws because they rip you off

3) I dont want to drive my car because the Petrol costs 40Rs/Ltr.

So the KCR is my only hope .....

Fahad is right in being concerned. Why is the city government giving us mixed signals? If they have finalized a project, they need to let us know what it is, how it is going to be implemented and what is the date of its launch. Its called the concept of public responsibility. Mass transit for Karachi is extremely necessary and long overdue. It has been on the cards since a long time already, and again, the CDGK is beating about the bush. There needs to be some kind of petition that could be sent to the city nazim about it I wish...

http://www.titc.org/images/transit.gif http://europa.eu.int/comm/research/news-centre/en/pur/images/03-02-pur01c-1.jpg
http://www.soundlabsgroup.com.au/visaton/images/visaton_maglev.jpg
http://www.drives.co.uk/news/images/Shanghai%20Maglev.jpg

http://www.msim.org.uk/images/Gallery_01_Galleries/pakistanloco_1.jpg

http://www.trainweb.org/railworld/NRM/Small%20Images/WDM1_being_restored_2_small.jpg

http://www.home.railscene.com/zanatta/clyde/clyde3.jpg

Lol man I tell ya its gonna be something like this, its being made at Lahore!

The reason there is no clarity about it is because there is no firm project. In fact, I am willing to wager a significant amount of money that Karachi will not get a maglev line at all. (Not because I have anything against Karachi, but I can show that it is not a particularly attractive option for a mass transit line, though it makes sense for fast airport links like in Shanghai).

On the other hand, there is reasonable chance of a conventional elevated/underground metro line getting approved sometime soon (though there is nothing concrete on that either).

The KCR itself will get the same old coaches that used to run on it. Lahore's Moghalpora works do not have the capability yet to build new rolling stock for the KCR (though the capability to license-assemble is being acquired from China). It is only refurbishing the old coaches - perhaps involving repainting and fixing the interiors. It will have a conventional diesel engine and several regular railway bogies.

Services on the mainline (not on the loop) are likely to start sometime next month. At one point there were about 110 services a day on the mainline+loop. I think they will start with <10 services a day to start with. Services on the loop will have to wait for infrastructure (replacement of most if not all level crossings with flyovers/underpasses + doubling of the current single line). There is not much spare capacity on the mainline in any case since there are only two tracks on the mainline and even these are not exclusively available for mass transit since long distance and goods trains use the same tracks.

Hope this will clear some of the confusion.

Here's a map of the master plan of the KCR/KMTP system. The map was made by Adnan Zafar and is posted on the IRFCA (Indian Rail Fan Clubs Association) website.

http://irfca.org/docs/maps/kcr-master.html

Here are my maps for Karachi in both English and Urdu. Please feel free to post them wherever you want to. The only request is to give appropriate credit. Also, if there are errors (particularly in the Urdu text), please let me know so that I can correct it.

http://www.geocities.com/nsridhar74/karachi_transit_maps.html

When there are firm proposals for a metro/subway line(s) (as of now there is not much clarity on that front), I shall add those to the maps. Any help in that would be appreciated (including details about the line and station locations etc.)


For those who are interested, my other mass transit maps (mostly of already existing or under-construction Indian metros/subways) can be seen here. Some of them are co-authored with another person, others are mine alone.

http://www.irfca.org/users/delhimetro/maps/index.html

http://irfca.org/docs/maps/karachi-circular-railway.jpg

Wow...better than mine...

Better or not, I don't know. But it is the more accurate version at least accurate up to the available information.

Guys, I don’t think the map you guys creating are viable or practical. If you look around the world, i.e. London, New York, etc. metro/tube stations are generally within 1/2 miles distance from each other. Looking at the map above I can see no station between Karachi uni and Drigh road. Which according to my estimation is well over 5miles distance. It goes for Karachi uni to Sohrab Goth. So no chance that planner will plan in anything like this. The whole network once all the lines are constructed and amalgamation of KCR, overhead and underground lines would be more comprehensive and integrated than what you guys envisage.

Adnan Zafar's map is only a schematic map of the alignments of the various lines. It does not indicate every station along the route, only the most important ones.

Look - we are talking of projects that are just in the initial planning stages (and have been since the late 1980s when the World Bank supported KMTP study was done). No finalization has been done, not even in-principle approval has been given, no question of tying up finances etc. It is not even clear that even a single new mass transit line would be constructed (though the chances of the Tower to Sohrab Goth line have brightened in the recent past). Keep things in that perspective. As of now, the only existing infrastructure is the KCR and the mainline.

Secondly, London's underground was built over a period of 100 years or so (I am counting the time to the last line in the 1960s, leaving aside the Docklands Light Rail). I think it would be overambitioius to dream that Karachi, which has almost zero mass transit infrastructure today, would be able to build that kind of a network in a short period of time. It is unfair to make a comparison between London and Karachi.

Here is one project I missed...

ROFL...Wow Pakistan must be filthy rich to implement a nationwide maglev project and use it for cargo/shipments???You guys must be joking.

First of all do you guys have any idea how much does those train sets cost per unit?First world countries like the US,Japan and Germany are having second thoughts on implementing such rail network for linking the main cities and you guys are building a nationwide track?Using those units to carry cargo?FYI they cost almost a billion USD per set and the weight of gods have to be equally divided on both section of the train or else the maglev will have serious problem running.Pakistanis must be geniuses to have thought of this.

:eek2:

... So?

It's not like we're the first one's to implement the Maglev, and If you consider a Nationwide Maglev not to be feasible .. well then check out the Trans-Atlantic tunnel proposal.

The Shanghai maglev cost about $40m a kilometer. Unlike conventional railways, maglevs cannot be built at grade and have to be on elevated guideways even for long distance routes and not just for intra-city routes. Thus, the costs for long distance lines remain the same.

Now consider this. If you consider only one line - say Karachi Lahore, that is 1220kms. That means a cost of about $4.9billion, that is PKR 288.7 billion (@PKR 59.15 per dollar)!!! That is for just one line. Now do your calculations for a 'network' of some sorts, connecting just the major cities.

I will be willing to wager any amount of money that Pakistan will not build a long-distance maglev network anytime in the foreseeable future. Any takers for gifting me some money by betting that it will be built? Fahad?

For the record, there is only one commercial maglev as of now and it is not a long distance one, but an airport-city transit in Shanghai. The Chinese plan to build a Shanghai-Beijing maglev has been stalled for quite some time now, though very recently, there have been some reports (subsequently officially denied) that there might be approval soon for a short section.

I think this Maglev is being constructed PRIVATLY...

There is still confusion over what's happening in Karachi.

There are three seperate projects underway or proposed.

1. Revival of the KCR (U/C)
2. Phase 1 of the Karachi Metro (U/C)
3. Nationwide Maglev (Proposed)

The Maglev is just a proposal to connect all of Asia together...the major crossroads will be in Pakistan. I don't think the government has approved of this yet.

I think this Maglev is being constructed PRIVATLY...

There is still confusion over what's happening in Karachi.

There are three seperate projects underway or proposed.

1. Revival of the KCR (U/C)
2. Phase 1 of the Karachi Metro (U/C)
3. Nationwide Maglev (Proposed)

The Maglev is just a proposal to connect all of Asia together...the major crossroads will be in Pakistan. I don't think the government has approved of this yet.


There is no such 'proposal' for the Maglev except by one Herr. Wagner of a company called InterGlob (which by the way does not exist except on paper). His greatest claim to fame is getting photographed with Gen. Musharraf. He claimed (and does on the website too) that his company built the Shanghai Maglev - which is an outright lie.

There is no Maglev coming to Pakistan in the near future, at least no longdistance one. And there is none coming to Asia either.

And Phase I of the KArachi metro is not under construction. It is a proposal (and has been since the 1980s at least) with no firm movement. There is hope that there is some movement soon, but it as of now only a hope. Saying that it is u/c is a lie.

The only thing that exists as of now is the KCR (two tracks shared with long distance trains on the 'mainline' and a single-track loop. Both these have a series of level-crossings, making the running of any serious mass transit system impossible. The current u/c part of it is the refurbishment of some 1960s-vintage coaches, which will run on a limited schedule on the mainline. There is no firm proposal for the KCR (e.g. doubling, electrification or underpasses/overpasses at level crossing) as of now, though there are vague plans for the future.

There is confusion only because of the assumption on the part of some members here that something is underway. Nothing is as of now, though the 'hope' is that something might get underway in some time.

I also think that Maglev won't be built on national scale. For one it's still not a mature technology and the cost is way beyong reach of Pakistani governments let alone private firms. Even if they somehow manage to build it the price of ticket won't be low enough to generate any profit. The Shanghai-Beijing line is already cancelled. The Chinese government is building an extension line linking Shanghai and nearby city of Hangzhou, mainly for 2010 Expo.

While reports of the approval of the Shanghai maglev extension were announced by Xinhua, they were denied by the highest planning authority of the Chinese Central Govt. the very next day. So there is no certainty even on that.

Building a MAGLEV in Karachi is highly unfeasible. Just imagine what the cost would be for the ticket? They would be charging the fare from N.Nazimabad to Saddar (RS. 70 to RS. 80) just for one ticket, its fate will be the same as the Scania Green Buses. Running low polutant airconditioned buses in Karachi was a very good idea, however running Scania buses was extremly stupid. First of all ive travelled in those buses and believe me, the experience was terrible. Why? because the tiket price was Rs. 15 (this was 2 years back, I can only imagine what it is right now) Secondly, even at Rs. 15 per ticket, their profitablity was so low that they couldnt even afford to run the AC's on the buses because of higher fuel consumption! The people were cooking inside them. On the other hand the Chinese Green Buses were a very pleasent trip. Airconditioning was excellent and the fare was only Rs. 10 (This was also two years back). Sridhar, since you know quite a bit about railways and such could you please shed some light on what someone said here earlier about the the soil of Karachi not being feasible for building an underground subway line in? As for the KCR, I personally think that the Circular Railway line should only be used to Transport people from the outter areas of Karachi into the central Part, and in the inner city there should be a cheap Rail method of Transport. Like a Monorail or elevated railway or something. What would you say, Sridhar?

Well, the best solution would be a multimodal one. It makes sense to optimally utilize existing infrastructure, while recognizing the new realities of the city and building for it.

First the KCR (the loop): When the KCR was built in the 1960s, Karachi was a city with a population one fourth of what it is today. The KCR formed the outer edge of the city. Also, the number of intersecting roads were fewer. It was a feasible option then. It is an infeasible option today and in its current form for travel from say Saddar to Nazimabad, since it goes around the city and is much slower than road transport despite the traffic on the roads. Yet, it has its uses, for travel from Saddar towards Mauripur Road, Sher Shah, Orangi etc. Also from North Nazimabad towards the University, Drigh Road etc. It requires extensions (spurs) from say Orangi station into the Kacchi Abadi areas of Orangi itself or from Baldia into the Kacchi Abadis nearby. It is a feasible option, with space available for construction along the existing roads. But there are two prerequisites - it has to be doubled and flyovers have to be built at ALL level crossings. It also needs electrification (electric traction provides faster acceleration and deceleration and also causes less pollution). There is NO mass transit option in the world that operates on a single track and virtually none on diesel traction. Thus doubling and electrification are necessities.

The mainline: This is the most promising of existing infrastructure. It is already a double track and it has fewer level crossings. There is considerable movement of people between the Saddar area and places like Landhi, Korangi and further towards Port Qasim. Such an option has been successfully used in many cities in South Asia itself. In India, Mumbai is the most prominent example, but also other cities (Kolkata, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bangalore, Delhi and even Lucknow have EMU services on rail track). In many of these cities lines have been largely quadrupled, providing an exclusive pair of tracks for mass transit. Such an option can be exercised by Karachi for relatively low cost. Quadrupling and electrification, along with grade separators at level crossings are necessary projects.

Elevated rail: There is need for at least one and preferably two or more elevated rail lines in Karachi to meet traffic needs and decongest the roads. Obvious routes include one north south route and another east west route (roughly forming four quadrants out of the KCR loop). The North-South route is the most obvious one if only one can be built. If there are heritage concerns, it can be partly underground. I don't know anything about Karachi's soil topography and hence cannot comment on how difficult the underground route would be. Mumbai faces such a problem as well (since it mostly consists of land reclaimed from the sea). But it is advisable to go underground in the very centre of the city and run elevated elsewhere. Generally, underground lines are twice as expensive as elevated ones, so it makes sense to go elevated wherever possible. This is particularly true of developing countries, which don't have budgets as high as some of the developed countries.

Buses: Karachi is perhaps the only city of its size which has no organized bus system and no transit options either. Almost all buses are run by small operators with a few buses. An efficient bus service is necessary even if a good rail-based mass transit system is built.

Light options: In the very centre of the city, light rail (modern trams) or even monorail could be an option. Delhi is seriously considering a monorail line in the congested Old Delhi area as a feeder service to the metro and to pedestrianize that part of the city. Karachi could consider something similar. Another option is the Skybus being built by Konkan Railway Corporation in Goa, India or something else of that kind (the skybus is actually a rail-based system in spite of the 'bus' in its name). The costs are far lower than the metro while still providing a modern system of lower capacity than a metro.


But going by past experience, I doubt much would happen in Karachi. It seems to be the most neglected city of the country even though it contributes much to the national economy. Even now the Govt. continues to talk of a privately built metro. Private enterprise cannot sustain mass transit anywhere - they are not profitable anywhere in the world. The only 'profitable' metro is the one in Hong Kong and even that is profitable only because of its revenues from land development (and even those are subsidies since it got very high value land in the centre of HK for free). Bombay's bus company is also profitable (and extremely efficient) but again because it also operates the city's electricity system whose profits cross-subsidize its transport operations. Thus, if any system has to be built in Karachi, it needs a big subsidy from the Govt. Only the Federal Govt. has the resources to do so in Pakistan and it seems to be unwilling to put its money where its mouth is.

At the moment, the best that can be hoped for is a revived KCR+mainline (though still very suboptimal) and perhaps one metro line (north-south) in the next 5 years if things go fast now. Else, the city will plod along based on the enterprise of its citizens, but no thanks to any of the authorities.

Well, the best solution would be a multimodal one. It makes sense to optimally utilize existing infrastructure, while recognizing the new realities of the city and building for it.

First the KCR (the loop): When the KCR was built in the 1960s, Karachi was a city with a population one fourth of what it is today. The KCR formed the outer edge of the city. Also, the number of intersecting roads were fewer. It was a feasible option then. It is an infeasible option today and in its current form for travel from say Saddar to Nazimabad, since it goes around the city and is much slower than road transport despite the traffic on the roads. Yet, it has its uses, for travel from Saddar towards Mauripur Road, Sher Shah, Orangi etc. Also from North Nazimabad towards the University, Drigh Road etc. It requires extensions (spurs) from say Orangi station into the Kacchi Abadi areas of Orangi itself or from Baldia into the Kacchi Abadis nearby. It is a feasible option, with space available for construction along the existing roads. But there are two prerequisites - it has to be doubled and flyovers have to be built at ALL level crossings. It also needs electrification (electric traction provides faster acceleration and deceleration and also causes less pollution). There is NO mass transit option in the world that operates on a single track and virtually none on diesel traction. Thus doubling and electrification are necessities.

The mainline: This is the most promising of existing infrastructure. It is already a double track and it has fewer level crossings. There is considerable movement of people between the Saddar area and places like Landhi, Korangi and further towards Port Qasim. Such an option has been successfully used in many cities in South Asia itself. In India, Mumbai is the most prominent example, but also other cities (Kolkata, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bangalore, Delhi and even Lucknow have EMU services on rail track). In many of these cities lines have been largely quadrupled, providing an exclusive pair of tracks for mass transit. Such an option can be exercised by Karachi for relatively low cost. Quadrupling and electrification, along with grade separators at level crossings are necessary projects.

Elevated rail: There is need for at least one and preferably two or more elevated rail lines in Karachi to meet traffic needs and decongest the roads. Obvious routes include one north south route and another east west route (roughly forming four quadrants out of the KCR loop). The North-South route is the most obvious one if only one can be built. If there are heritage concerns, it can be partly underground. I don't know anything about Karachi's soil topography and hence cannot comment on how difficult the underground route would be. Mumbai faces such a problem as well (since it mostly consists of land reclaimed from the sea). But it is advisable to go underground in the very centre of the city and run elevated elsewhere. Generally, underground lines are twice as expensive as elevated ones, so it makes sense to go elevated wherever possible. This is particularly true of developing countries, which don't have budgets as high as some of the developed countries.

Buses: Karachi is perhaps the only city of its size which has no organized bus system and no transit options either. Almost all buses are run by small operators with a few buses. An efficient bus service is necessary even if a good rail-based mass transit system is built.

Light options: In the very centre of the city, light rail (modern trams) or even monorail could be an option. Delhi is seriously considering a monorail line in the congested Old Delhi area as a feeder service to the metro and to pedestrianize that part of the city. Karachi could consider something similar. Another option is the Skybus being built by Konkan Railway Corporation in India or something else of that kind. The costs are far lower than the metro while still providing a modern system of lower capacity than a metro.


But going by past experience, I doubt much would happen in Karachi. It seems to be the most neglected city of the country even though it contributes much to the national economy. Even now the Govt. continues to talk of a privately built metro. Private enterprise cannot sustain mass transit anywhere - they are not profitable anywhere in the world. The only 'profitable' metro is the one in Hong Kong and even that is profitable only because of its revenues from land development (and even those are subsidies since it got very high value land in the centre of HK for free). Bombay's bus company is also profitable (and extremely efficient) but again because it also operates the city's electricity system whose profits cross-subsidize its transport operations. Thus, if any system has to be built in Karachi, it needs a big subsidy from the Govt. Only the Federal Govt. has the resources to do so in Pakistan and it seems to be unwilling to put its money where its mouth is.

At the moment, the best that can be hoped for is a revived KCR+mainline (though still very suboptimal) and perhaps one metro line (north-south) in the next 5 years if things go fast now. Else, the city will plod along based on the enterprise of its citizens, but no thanks to any of the authorities.


I think the most efficient option (financially) and the only one possible is the KCR one. You are absolutly right about a private company building a metro. First of all nobody wants to do it and secondly its not going to be sustainable. Any kind of rail based transit system cannot be supported by any private company. Keeping in consideration the history, i dont even think that the KCR will be built in the next 5 to 7 years because the government said that their doing everything to revive the KCR and later we got to know that all they did was refurbish some old carriages and fix some rail lines. All that is being done for Karachi is done just to keep it alive, "up and running". It is indeed the most neglected city of Pakistan and it will remain so for some time to come. A metro or organised bus system or anything of that sort is wishful thinking at best.

If there is a will, there is a possibility of building a sufficient (though limited) system out of just the KCR and mainline. An example is the city of Hyderabad in India. It is now a large city of about 5 million people. It suffered from an absence of a metro system though it has had a good bus system for some time. A full metro is planned there (the feasibility studies are currently underway by the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation) but in the meantime, the Govt. developed a mass transit system using the existing railway lines and upgrading them for near-metro operation.

Karachi can learn from this experience and do something similar. You will be surprised to learn that this system cost only about Rs. 140 crores (about PKR 1.9 billion), which involves several new stations, upgradation of existing ones, new underpasses, integration with the bus system (new bus bays etc.) and new rolling stock (which are sufficient though not luxurious or anything of that sort). All with indigenous technology (hence cost effective and reasonably good, though not as fancy). And done within 2 years from the first announcement of intent to inauguration.

Here are some pictures:

EMU:
http://www.irfca.org/photos/albums/EMU/00017_G.sized.jpg

EMU:closeup
http://www.irfca.org/photos/albums/EMU/mmts_1.sized.jpg

EMU interiors
http://www.irfca.org/photos/albums/EMU/mmts_inside.sized.jpg

MMTS Station (at Necklace Road)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/jaganpvs/MMTS/MMTS03.jpg


And here are maps I created for the Hyderabad system (called the MMTS for Multi-modal transit system)
in English: http://www.irfca.org/users/delhimetro/maps/Hyderabad_MRTS_map.pdf
in Urdu: http://www.irfca.org/users/delhimetro/maps/hyderabad_mmts_mrts_urdu.pdf

I am sure Karachi could build something like this - very cost effective and built within a short period of time.

Didn't a chinese company already agree to begin building phase 1?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Project0.jpg

THIS WILL BE BUILT IN ZONE A OF THE DHA WATERFRONT PROJECT.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/NEXT2.jpg

LAYOUT
http://photos3.worldisround.com/photos/2/585/420.jpg

ZONE A

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/NEXT4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Project0.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Project1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Project2.jpg



ZONE B

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/NEXT8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/ZONEB.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Project3.jpg



ZONE C

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/NEXT11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Project4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Project5.jpg


ZONE E

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Project6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Project7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/Project8.jpg

SORRY FOR THE LACK OF INFORMATION ON ZONE E AND NO INFO ON F, I WILL BRING THEM TO YOU SOON. ZONE G OFCOURSE IS THE FAMOUSE CREEK CITY.

No. Signing of an MoU does not mean anything. For that matter, an MoU was signed between the CDGK and InterGlob (a non-existent company with no access to Maglev technology) and even in Lahore (with the same non-existent company). Nothing has come out of that MoU and nothing will come out of it. The Chinese company also signed an MoU to 'study' the project. Even a study has not been done by the Chinese company two years after the MoU.

Once again, as long as the Govt. is unwilling to invest in it and keeps hoping for the private sector to invest, it is almost certain that nothing will happen. Mass transit is not economically viable option for the private sector even in developed countries and it is certainly not one in developing countries where ticket prices have to be necessarily kept low.

Once again, there is absolutely nothing concrete on the Karachi mass transit project (KMTP) after the 1989 World Bank study. There is a lot of talk. The nearest it came to being built was when a Canadian-led consortium was given the contract for Line 1. But even that collapsed only because the Govt. was unwilling to release the money it was supposed to release. Nothing moved in that instance and nothing will move till the Govt. bites the bullet and decides that it has to invest money in the project. There is no free lunch.

Excellent stuff well done!

Port Tower look a little different though...

I can understand what your saying; I guess upgrading KCR is the best option for now but Karachi should really smarten up and do something else as well.

I've been to that city...it's constant gridlock no matter what time of day it is even well into the late nights!

I know the federal government screwed around with that Canadian company; I really liked that project as well an elevated LRT system. Lets hope something happens...BTW you have information on anything for Lahore?

cntower, that is not port tower, thats another tower .


all these developments will be in DHA and is part of the dha waterfront programe. port tower will be in clifton, which is next to dha.

Two different towers?

Huum...

Wow! That will take years to built (Ages!)

In 2 years, there hasn't been a single Scraper' out of Creek City so you can imagine how many years these projects will take!!

Nice!, and I believe its near McDonalds?

Awesome!

excellent stuff

when are we going to change. We need better renderings. A 5bn rupee building and a 5 rupee rendering.

Kuala Lumpur’s Urban Transport Department on Wednesday started studies for a project to build a monorail train in Karachi.

A delegation from the department held a meeting with Karachi Mayor and District Coordination Officer. The delegation said it had identified six corridors for the monorail, which is successfully running in the Malaysian capital. The project is on BOT (build operate transfer) basis.

The estimated cost of the project is $568 million, which will be completed within four and a half years. The corridor-I, spreading over a total area of 15.2 km from Sohrab Goth to M W Tower, has been designed on both elevated as well as underground basis.

The route from Sohrab Goth to Teen Hatti (8 km) will be on elevated pattern, while the remaining corridor from Teen Hatti to Tower (7.2 km) on underground basis.

This corridor initially will facilitate about 0.4 million commuters with the fast, efficient and economical transport service that would later be expanded to 1 million commuters.

lol