Medyo OT na tanong: Ano ibig sabihin ng "A Philippine-Japan Cooperation Project"? Grant ba 'to ng pamahalaang hapon, o loan, o bilateral agreement kung saan may binibigay na infrastructure ang bansang Hapon kapalit ng something ng Pilipínas?

^^Baka compensation from the damage the Japansese brought to Philippines in WW2.:nuts::lol:

Parang luging lugi naman tayo kung iyan ang compensation. Haha.

Parang luging lugi naman tayo kung iyan ang compensation. Haha.

Gusto lang ng mga hapon na kahit papa-ano magkaroon ng magandang expressway sa pinas, I hope all of expressway along the philippines ganito rin kaganda..:)

^^^^ kasama na din dyan ata yung pagbibigay nila ng lupa sa Japan..ewan ko lang kung meron pa tayo nun..anyway maganda na din yan kasi karamihan naman ng cooperation projects eh nababawasan ang gastos ng gobyerno...

SCTEX was funded by a loan from Japan (JBIC at the time). But to justify the project, the proponents had to justify that the revenues from the project can pay for the loan. Because it was JBIC funded, Japanese contractors built the expressway. These same contractors are the builders of expressways in Japan and are now involved in a big project in Africa. Unfortunately, the traffic forecasts and consequently the toll revenues were overestimated including assumptions where Subic, Clark, Bataan and Luisita developments were too optimistic. So now, the BCDA is having a difficult time coming up with a scheme that would be attractive to the prospective long-term operator of SCTEX.

^^^^ mabuti na din yan for future traffic volume...

Gusto lang ng mga hapon na kahit papa-ano magkaroon ng magandang expressway sa pinas, I hope all of expressway along the philippines ganito rin kaganda..:)

Oo nga... I feel free to agree that... The SCTEX is my favorite expressway in the Philippines... :)

SCTEX was funded by a loan from Japan (JBIC at the time). But to justify the project, the proponents had to justify that the revenues from the project can pay for the loan. Because it was JBIC funded, Japanese contractors built the expressway. These same contractors are the builders of expressways in Japan and are now involved in a big project in Africa. Unfortunately, the traffic forecasts and consequently the toll revenues were overestimated including assumptions where Subic, Clark, Bataan and Luisita developments were too optimistic. So now, the BCDA is having a difficult time coming up with a scheme that would be attractive to the prospective long-term operator of SCTEX.

But the overestimation led into creating one of the picturesque and beautiful highway in the philippines. Sa sobrang ganda ng tanawin (shoo billboards), kung minsan yung mga biyahero ay tumitigil para picturan ang SCTEX :banana:

But the overestimation led into creating one of the picturesque and beautiful highway in the philippines. Sa sobrang ganda ng tanawin (shoo billboards), kung minsan yung mga biyahero ay tumitigil para picturan ang SCTEX :banana:

I agree that the SCTEX is a necessary infra and its construction was overdue. In fact the TPLEX and NLEE projects are also necessary, along with probably another expressway extending all the way to the Bicol Region. The point in my post is that it would be difficult to recover the loan amount and it has brought about difficulties in getting a long term operator for the expressway. I guess there is really pressure now to develop the land along the SCTEX so as to bring in benefits that will definitely pay for its construction albeit indirectly.

Oo nga... I feel free to agree that... The SCTEX is my favorite expressway in the Philippines... :)

Dati favorite ko SLEX ngaun SCTEx na:nuts:

Are there any private companies, especially real estates along the SCTEx already?

There is a Subic-Clark Alliance for Development Council (SCADC) that's working on this. They are pushing for developments along the corridor including potential interchanges where needed in the future. They would have much info in their website.

Are there any private companies, especially real estates along the SCTEx already?


I dont know but I'm expected na malapit ng magkaroon ng mga real state or company along SCTEx.

Dati favorite ko SLEX ngaun SCTEx na:nuts:

Ganun? Ako naman favorite ko dati NLEX, ngayon SCTEX na!.... :nuts:


*BTW, di ba magdagdag ng SCTEX ng EC-Tag? Para no more pila nalang... :)

Ganun? Ako naman favorite ko dati NLEX, ngayon SCTEX na!.... :nuts:


*BTW, di ba magdagdag ng SCTEX ng EC-Tag? Para no more pila nalang... :)

Lahat ba ng toll plaza ay mag da-ragdag ng EC-Tag along SCTEx? Less pila yun.

Lahat ba ng toll plaza ay mag da-ragdag ng EC-Tag along SCTEx? Less pila yun.

Di ko alam...

Pero sana idag-dag nila yun... Para hindi na kailangan ng mahabang pila...:)

Lahat ba ng toll plaza ay mag da-ragdag ng EC-Tag along SCTEx? Less pila yun.

kapag ang MNTC siguro ang maghahawak na ng SCTEX, malamang lagyan ng EC Tag.

Are there any private companies, especially real estates along the SCTEx already?

Hacienda Luisita Inc. :lol:

Are there any private companies, especially real estates along the SCTEx already?

What exactly do you mean? Oh baka real estates projects or developments. If you can count Las Haciendas de Luisita, maybe that is one.

Medyo OT na tanong: Ano ibig sabihin ng "A Philippine-Japan Cooperation Project"? Grant ba 'to ng pamahalaang hapon, o loan, o bilateral agreement kung saan may binibigay na infrastructure ang bansang Hapon kapalit ng something ng Pilipínas?

It's a BOT project. Sa tingin mo may pera ang Pilipinas to build such an expensive expressway.

But the overestimation led into creating one of the picturesque and beautiful highway in the philippines. Sa sobrang ganda ng tanawin (shoo billboards), kung minsan yung mga biyahero ay tumitigil para picturan ang SCTEX :banana:

I couldn't agree more. Lalo na pag gabi as in para kang nasa ibang bansa. You would not think that an expressway like this is in the Philippines. Super ganda ng allignment ng mga ilaw pag gabi. Napakaganda. It makes you really proud.

Sana TPLEX is something like SCTEX in the future in terms of quality and aesthetic. So we can have something to be proud of (again). Sabi nga ng foreign consultant sa company namin. Infrastracture is getting world-class.

agree....am a regular sctex user 2....twice weekly halos...when i go to work on mondays and return on fridays....laking ginhawa...

Ako din, halos everyday or every other day. Ang laking ginhawa.

Yung kurakot di mo naman maiaalis yan. Pati yung "tongpats". kahit sa ibang bansa meron nyan.

Ang importante, may output. At operational ang output.

Hindi kagaya ng BNPP at Expo Pilipino. Naging white elephant.

yes yes.. hacienda luisita.. nagawa nilang ibigay ito sa daan pero yung mga magsasaka naitsapwera.. sana naging patas ang bahagian ng lupa.. meron para sa daan meron para sa magsasaka.. kaya nga nagkaron ng luisita massacre e.. na hanggang ngayon e natatabunan... masyado kasi nagmamalinis ang mga may ari ng luisita.. may mga pangako pa.. SAWA NA ANG PINOY SA MGA PANGAKO.. GUSTO NA NG KARAMIHAN NG SULONG...

Ako din, halos everyday or every other day. Ang laking ginhawa.

Yung kurakot di mo naman maiaalis yan. Pati yung "tongpats". kahit sa ibang bansa meron nyan.

Ang importante, may output. At operational ang output.

Hindi kagaya ng BNPP at Expo Pilipino. Naging white elephant.

ang mali kasi sa Nayong Pilipino at Expo sa Clark ay yung daan from Manila

may advanced and modern expressway nga to cater, di nman lahat may sasakyan, hassle lang kung magbubus kapa para magpunta lang dun

subukan nilang lagyan ng high speed train yan from Manila, tignan ko lang kung di yan putaktihin ng turista

di nman kasi mass transport system ang SCTEX

ang mali kasi sa Nayong Pilipino at Expo sa Clark ay yung daan from Manila

may advanced and modern expressway nga to cater, di nman lahat may sasakyan, hassle lang kung magbubus kapa para magpunta lang dun

subukan nilang lagyan ng high speed train yan from Manila, tignan ko lang kung di yan putaktihin ng turista

di nman kasi mass transport system ang SCTEX

naku parang out of the context naman ang sinasabi mo. I'm not talking about accesibility. Im referring to projects that were erected but never utilized due to political reasons.

yes yes.. hacienda luisita.. nagawa nilang ibigay ito sa daan pero yung mga magsasaka naitsapwera.. sana naging patas ang bahagian ng lupa.. meron para sa daan meron para sa magsasaka.. kaya nga nagkaron ng luisita massacre e.. na hanggang ngayon e natatabunan... masyado kasi nagmamalinis ang mga may ari ng luisita.. may mga pangako pa.. SAWA NA ANG PINOY SA MGA PANGAKO.. GUSTO NA NG KARAMIHAN NG SULONG...

Medyo off-topic yata. Eh lahat naman sila nangangako di ba?

Sa ngayon, di pa bagay sa pilipinas na mag-construct ng tollway tulad ng sa china, kasi tama sinabi mo na lindulin ang pilipinas at marami pang landslide sa mga bundok.

At palagay nyo saan naconstruct yung mga daan paakyat ng Baguio?

Tollways are actually nice if operated efficiently and honestly. But of course there should be demand for its use. Otherwise, its difficult to earn revenue to cover at least the maintenance of the road. I think in the case of the SCTEX, while traffic will eventually increase, revenues won't be enough to pay for the loan. Indirect benefits na lang ang pangbawi sa cost of construction.

yes yes.. hacienda luisita.. nagawa nilang ibigay ito sa daan pero yung mga magsasaka naitsapwera.. sana naging patas ang bahagian ng lupa.. meron para sa daan meron para sa magsasaka.. kaya nga nagkaron ng luisita massacre e.. na hanggang ngayon e natatabunan... masyado kasi nagmamalinis ang mga may ari ng luisita.. may mga pangako pa.. SAWA NA ANG PINOY SA MGA PANGAKO.. GUSTO NA NG KARAMIHAN NG SULONG...


:bash:Ang tagal na niyang naganap, at from now wala parin nananagot.


Medyo off-topic yata. Eh lahat naman sila nangangako di ba?






Hindi cila tumupad sa pangako, pero ang importante dito ay nagkaroon ng magandang daan..

question,,,,,

pupunta kasi ako ng PINATUBO CRATER. this is my first time kasi, so sa CAPAS, TARLAC ang meeting place. saan ba mas ok dumaan?

anyway, travel time would be, 4am, starting point sa NLEX na agad.

saan ba mas ok dumaan sa 4am-6am na travel?
dito ba sa nlex then sctex?
o nlex then mc arthur na lang?

tnx

question,,,,,

pupunta kasi ako ng PINATUBO CRATER. this is my first time kasi, so sa CAPAS, TARLAC ang meeting place. saan ba mas ok dumaan?

anyway, travel time would be, 4am, starting point sa NLEX na agad.

saan ba mas ok dumating sa 4am-6am na travel?
dito ba sa nlex then sctex?
o nlex then mc arthur na lang?

tnx

, Meron ba kayong private vehicle papuntang pinatubo...


Wala kasi ako alam tungkol sa pag-akyat ng pinatubo at hindi ko alam ang way papunta dun..:nuts:

Sir....Ingat nalang You...:)

question,,,,,

pupunta kasi ako ng PINATUBO CRATER. this is my first time kasi, so sa CAPAS, TARLAC ang meeting place. saan ba mas ok dumaan?

anyway, travel time would be, 4am, starting point sa NLEX na agad.

saan ba mas ok dumaan sa 4am-6am na travel?
dito ba sa nlex then sctex?
o nlex then mc arthur na lang?

tnx

Mag NLEX-SCTEX kana at magexit sa nearest point going to Capas. At least pwede ka tumakbo ng 100 na hindi ka ppreno bigla gawa meh epal ng tricycle sa McArthur Hway.

naku parang out of the context naman ang sinasabi mo. I'm not talking about accesibility. Im referring to projects that were erected but never utilized due to political reasons.

you have a point.

but my point is that, me as tourist from Manila, i really don't care about any political issue that plagues the said projects, but if i want to go there, im really gonna think twice because of accessibility.

kagaya ng maraming turista, wla silang paki alam sa issue ng isang lugar, pupunta sila dun kung alam nilang makakarating sila.

at yun ang dahilan kung bakit under utilized.

WALANG PUMUPUNTA kasi mahirap pumunta.

Mag NLEX-SCTEX kana at magexit sa nearest point going to Capas. At least pwede ka tumakbo ng 100 na hindi ka ppreno bigla gawa meh epal ng tricycle sa McArthur Hway.

so concepcion exit?

SCTEXBRIDGE-CAULAMAN
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SCTEXBRIDGE-GUMAIN
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SCTEXBRIDGE-TIPO2
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SCTEXBRIDGE-TIPOANDLAYAC
http://www.firstbalfour.com/backoffice/catalogs/_uploads/f_20080108-105114_TRANSPORTINFRA_SCTEXBRIDGE-TIPOANDLAYAC.jpg

SUBIC CLARK TARLAC EXPRESSWAY - PORAC
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Mula sa First Balfour Site: http://www.firstbalfour.com/projects.php?rec_id=284&proj_id=70&sub=&page=2&filter_catcat_catpc_id=

you have a point.

but my point is that, me as tourist from Manila, i really don't care about any political issue that plagues the said projects, but if i want to go there, im really gonna think twice because of accessibility.

kagaya ng maraming turista, wla silang paki alam sa issue ng isang lugar, pupunta sila dun kung alam nilang makakarating sila.

at yun ang dahilan kung bakit under utilized.

WALANG PUMUPUNTA kasi mahirap pumunta.

Mahirap pumunta? From Manila to Clark for instance mahirap pumunta? Kaya ka nga turista di ba? You explore!

so concepcion exit?

Taga saan ka ba ICHUO_MX? Sa Bulacan right? If that's the case mag NLEX-SCTEX na lang kayo, labas kayo sa Concepcion exit then turn right diretso kayo noon sa may junction sa Capas, Tarlac. (Yung may mcdonalds at Caltex). Then diretso kayo mga few meters away lang ang Capas Town proper. From then on madali na. Ask nyo yung mga locals at ituturo nila sa inyo ang Pinatubo trek.

Mahirap pumunta? From Manila to Clark for instance mahirap pumunta? Kaya ka nga turista di ba? You explore!

hayz.

and your point is?

KUNG AKO AY MAY BALAK MAGING TURISTA, MAGDADALAWANG ISIP AKONG PUMUNTA DYAN DAHIL WALA AKONG PRIBADONG SASAKYAN NA PEDENG DUMAAN SA SCTEX. DAGDAG PAGOD ANG PAGBUBUS. KUNG MAY TREN AYOS ANG PAGPUNTA JAN.

nakuha mo?

sana.

i know what the word tourist means, you don't need to explain that.

end of story SIR.

Taga saan ka ba ICHUO_MX? Sa Bulacan right? If that's the case mag NLEX-SCTEX na lang kayo, labas kayo sa Concepcion exit then turn right diretso kayo noon sa may junction sa Capas, Tarlac. (Yung may mcdonalds at Caltex). Then diretso kayo mga few meters away lang ang Capas Town proper. From then on madali na. Ask nyo yung mga locals at ituturo nila sa inyo ang Pinatubo trek.

Need to make a left after exiting Conception instead of right. After reaching Capas proper, near McDonalds and Caltex, turn right to merge into MacArthur Hwy...then after about 300 meters, make a left on the first intersection. After about 1km, the road ends and make a right. Continue on this road for about 20km until you reach Sta. Juliana.

From there, you can make arrangements for the Mt. Pinatubo trek.

Need to make a left after exiting Conception instead of right. After reaching Capas proper, near McDonalds and Caltex, turn right to merge into MacArthur Hwy...then after about 300 meters, make a left on the first intersection. After about 1km, the road ends and make a right. Continue on this road for about 20km until you reach Sta. Juliana.

From there, you can make arrangements for the Mt. Pinatubo trek.

OO nga pala , left nga pala. Thanks for the correction. Pero I would say na magtanong na kayo sa mismomg town proper. Kasi may other route na malapit sa Capas City Hall yung papuntang CAPAS Shrine.

hayz.

and your point is?

KUNG AKO AY MAY BALAK MAGING TURISTA, MAGDADALAWANG ISIP AKONG PUMUNTA DYAN DAHIL WALA AKONG PRIBADONG SASAKYAN NA PEDENG DUMAAN SA SCTEX. DAGDAG PAGOD ANG PAGBUBUS. KUNG MAY TREN AYOS ANG PAGPUNTA JAN.

nakuha mo?

sana.

i know what the word tourist means, you don't need to explain that.

end of story SIR.

At kailan pa magkaka tren? Hindi naman kasi feasible ang sinasabi mo. So may tren form Manila to Clark (sa mismo EXPO) , may tren from Manila to Boracay, and so on. Bakit sa Enchanted Kingdom may pumupunta? Sa Star City? Sa Ocean PArk? Sa Water world sa SUbic? May tren ba papunta doon? Kung ang lahat ng tourist may sasakyan wala nang mag tuturista. Besides, I just said "kaya ka nga turista you explore"? Hindi ko sinabing hindi mo alam ang ibig sabihin ng salitang tourist.

At hindi under-utilized ang BNPP at EXPO Filipino. They were never utilized at all.

So end of the story na talaga. Wala naman akong balak makipag argue sayo sa isang bagay na ikaw ang unang nagquote ng "out of the blue"

At kailan pa magkaka tren? Hindi naman kasi feasible ang sinasabi mo. So may tren form Manila to Clark (sa mismo EXPO) , may tren from Manila to Boracay, and so on. So end of the story na talaga. Wala naman akong balak makipag argue sayo sa isang bagay na ikaw ang unang nagquote ng "out of the blue"

Kung gusto nya na pumunta ng Subic or clark need nya mag SCTEx.:)

Kung gusto nya na pumunta ng Subic or clark need nya mag SCTEx.:)

Nagdadalawang-isip daw kasi wala siya sasakyan. Ang mahirap...he generalized his view thinking that he shares them with most people who loves to travel a lot.

Nagdadalawang-isip daw kasi wala siya sasakyan. Ang mahirap...he generalized his view thinking that he shares them with most people who loves to travel a lot.


i think you just answered the issue in your previous post kung bakit under or never utilized and EXPO at Nayong Pilipino, hindi ka makakapunta kung hindi ka gagamit ng SCTEX.

hindi feasible ang tren, so no choice kundi magbus o magcommute.

but i'll stand with my point, sorry if i did generalized.

im sorry sir, just read all your posts pati sa ibang threads, and i'm not gonna argue with you, you're well traveled at maxado kang madaming alam.

At kailan pa magkaka tren? Hindi naman kasi feasible ang sinasabi mo. So may tren form Manila to Clark (sa mismo EXPO) , may tren from Manila to Boracay, and so on. Bakit sa Enchanted Kingdom may pumupunta? Sa Star City? Sa Ocean PArk? Sa Water world sa SUbic? May tren ba papunta doon? Kung ang lahat ng tourist may sasakyan wala nang mag tuturista. Besides, I just said "kaya ka nga turista you explore"? Hindi ko sinabing hindi mo alam ang ibig sabihin ng salitang tourist.

At hindi under-utilized ang BNPP at EXPO Filipino. They were never utilized at all.

So end of the story na talaga. Wala naman akong balak makipag argue sayo sa isang bagay na ikaw ang unang nagquote ng "out of the blue"

hindi pako nakakapunta sa Boracay, EK, Subic at Clark kasi malayo at wala akong sasakyan, hindi nman ako magbabaksyon ng ilang araw jan para magsayang ng oras magbus kung uuwi rin ako the same day.

sa SC at MOP bakapunta nako kasi within Manila lang sakay kaya mong magcommute kasi may MRT at LRT, so hindi problema.

For those who planned to travel to Mount Pinatubo, I advise you to have and an all terrain vehicle and a local guide for safety.

If you have a private vehicle you can go via NLEX then SCTEX up to Concepcion exit then to Capaz and Barangay Juliana.

Or NLEX, then SCTEX up to Dolores exit then to Capaz and Barangay Juliana.

By Bus you can alight at Capaz and find your way to Barangay Juliana.

Please note it is dangeous to go on trek to Mount Pinatubo alone or even in group if without sufficient local knowledge. You can get more info from the Barangay Hall in Sta Juliana or from the Police and Military personnel assigned in that place.


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^^ marami pong salamat. actually, naka booked naman po kami, prob ko lang yung pano papunta kasi first time. ngayon alam ko na. salamat ulit.

pero question, ung bang from capas to sta juliana, nakalagay ay major road naman, so maganda ang daan dito?

pero question, ung bang from capas to sta juliana, nakalagay ay major road naman, so maganda ang daan dito?

I am not sure kung maganda and daan from Capaz to Sta Juliana, itanong ko sa mga taga rito sa Mabalacat, sa mga kamag-anak ng mrs. ko.

Pero if I have no appointment this week in Manila, I plan to drive to Sta Juliana from our house here in Mabalacat.

I am also planning to trek Mount Pinatubo these summer, pero magtanong muna ako sa Sta Juliana ng mga details to trek Mt. Pinatubo, isa pa may portion na maglalakad ng 2 to 3 hours.

^^ thank u so much :)

^^ thank u so much :)

I guess this is better information for Mt. Pinatubo Trek - from : http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/p/m/47cd3e/


Since we travelled with a group, we opted to bring our own vehicles (vans & cars) going to and around Capas. We felt it was the best option in order to effectively control our time and movements.

Route: From Manila, we took the North Luzon Expressway and exited at Sta. Ines toll gate. From there, we drove to MacArthur Hwy onwards to Bamban and Capas, Tarlac. Upon seeing the public market in Capas, we took a left turn to Brgy. Sto. Rosario and drove ahead past the Capas Nat'l Shrine and Camp O' Donnell, until we reached Brgy. Sta. Juliana, known to all as the gateway to the crater lake of Mt. Pinatubo. We left our vehicles at the Parking lot infront of PDC Spa Town and transferred to a x4 jeep.

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From : http://www.lakwatsero.com/destinations/mt-pinatubo/

How to Get There

The most common and recommended jump off point is via Sta. Juliana, Capas, Tarlac trail. Going there via public transport, ride a bus going to Pangasinan, Baguio or Ilocos Provinces (Victory Liner, Partas, Fariñas Transit, Five Star Bus) or catch a direct to Tarlac bus and drop off at Capas Public Market. Fare is more or less P200.00 and travel time is around 3 hours. Philippine Rabbit (Contact No: 734-9836) has direct trips to Tarlac every hour daily.

From the market, catch a jeepney or trike to fetch you to Pinatubo Spa Town in Sta. Juliana where the Tourism Office and the base camp of Capas Pinatubo Four Wheelers Club Association are situated. You need to pay the Environmental Fee in Tourism Office and rent a 4×4 here, they can assign one for you or you may contact any 4×4 driver you know in advance.

From here the crater is just an hour 4×4 ride via Skyway and a 30 – 40 minutes trek.

Where to Stay

Trekking to Mt. Pinatubo’s crater can be done in a day, so if you are on a budget, you can save expenses for accommodation if you choose to head back home after the trek. Alternatively, you can set up a camp in the assigned camping site in the area. There are restrooms, nipa hut and source of fresh water near the crater.

http://www.lakwatsero.com/destinations/mt-pinatubo/

hindi pako nakakapunta sa Boracay, EK, Subic at Clark kasi malayo at wala akong sasakyan, hindi nman ako magbabaksyon ng ilang araw jan para magsayang ng oras magbus kung uuwi rin ako the same day.

sa SC at MOP bakapunta nako kasi within Manila lang sakay kaya mong magcommute kasi may MRT at LRT, so hindi problema.

Ako din naman pumupunta sa MOA by bus then taxi lang from the terminal. Minsan kasi by choice din lang ang paggamit ng sariling sasakyan.

Nakuha ko naman ang punto mo. well-taken naman. Medyo napahaba lang tayo ng konti. Exchange of views lang naman yan.

Ako din I have read some of your posts sa ibang thread and i can also say na well-informed ka.

pero question, ung bang from capas to sta juliana, nakalagay ay major road naman, so maganda ang daan dito?

Maganda...2 lane paved highway all the way to Sta. Juliana

just want to share from my daily commute, SCTEx is visible along the mountain ranges when you look at it from NLEx between Mexico and Angeles exits at night :)

^^ yep, pero yung ilaw lang

Iba talaga pag Japanese design kahit bundok tinatawid..

kaya siguro hindi tinuloy ng mga pinoy builders (TPLEX- up to Rosario lang) yung planned Extension ng SCTEX to Bocnotan La Union, na tatawid rin sa mga bundok at burol, dahil hindi nila kaya i-design at lalong hindi nila kaya ang gastos hahahaha

buti pa ang sctex malaki ang pondo kaya world class!!!

Iba talaga pag Japanese design kahit bundok tinatawid..

kaya siguro hindi tinuloy ng mga pinoy builders (TPLEX- up to Rosario lang) yung planned Extension ng SCTEX to Bocnotan La Union, na tatawid rin sa mga bundok at burol, dahil hindi nila kaya i-design at lalong hindi nila kaya ang gastos hahahaha

buti pa ang sctex malaki ang pondo kaya world class!!!

Ganoon na nga, mukhang kelangan na naman ng japanese para maisagawa ang construction ng TPLEx.....

^^ yep, pero yung ilaw lang

akala ko nga space ship un e.. kasi sumusunod xa e..

Iba talaga pag Japanese design kahit bundok tinatawid..

kaya siguro hindi tinuloy ng mga pinoy builders (TPLEX- up to Rosario lang) yung planned Extension ng SCTEX to Bocnotan La Union, na tatawid rin sa mga bundok at burol, dahil hindi nila kaya i-design at lalong hindi nila kaya ang gastos hahahaha

buti pa ang sctex malaki ang pondo kaya world class!!!

Hindi ba Japanese contractor ang TPLEX? Sayang naman... Gusto ko pa naman talaga yung SCTEX... :)

May fan page ang SCTEX sa Facebook.:)

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=sctex&init=quick#!/pages/Pampanga-Phone-0458652030/SCTEX-Subic-Clark-Tarlac-Expressway/61716464307?v=wall&ref=search

Kung fan kayo ng SCTEX, e di maging "fan" na kayo.:D

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Pooooot.... the TRUCK!
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Other pictures...

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Maganda ang scene...
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Tumingin lang ako... Parang nga sa ibang BANSA!!! :lol:

^^ Ganda ng exposure settings. Maganda kung mailagay mo yung links sa pics.

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^^ hehe may ganyan din ang NLEX pala.

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The NLEX and SCTEX linkage.

pero question, ung bang from capas to sta juliana, nakalagay ay major road naman, so maganda ang daan dito?


Pls see the photos of the road to Sta Juliana at the below web link :


Road to Santa Juliana (Crow Valley) the gateway to Mount Pinatubo

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=52484825#post52484825



Thursday, February 25, 2010
The Road to Santa Juliana, the gateway to Mount Pinatubo

http://jaimedelacruzblog.blogspot.com/

ICHUO MX thanks sa pag-post ng sctex-nlex linkage, dyan kasi ko nalito going to Mabalacat coming from La Paz.:)

ICHUO MX thanks sa pag-post ng sctex-nlex linkage, dyan kasi ko nalito going to Mabalacat coming from La Paz.:)

Ako din sobrang nalito ako dyan, at first.

Eh kasi ba naman, papunta ako ng Subic, although may signs, parang talagang ewan ko bigla ko lumiko, ayun napunta ako ng Mc Arthur. Hahahah.

Pls see the photos of the road to Sta Juliana at the below web link :


Road to Santa Juliana (Crow Valley) the gateway to Mount Pinatubo

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=52484825#post52484825



Thursday, February 25, 2010
The Road to Santa Juliana, the gateway to Mount Pinatubo

http://jaimedelacruzblog.blogspot.com/

Wow thank you ha, grabe ang layo pala from Mc Arthur.

Wow thank you ha, grabe ang layo pala from Mc Arthur.


Parang malayo nga from MacArthur highway pero dahil maganda ang road and almost no traffic jam, parang sandali lang ang biyahe about 30 minutes from Capas Market to Barangay Sta Juliana (Crow Valley)

I relocated again the blog web address of the " Road to Sta Juliana " link to :

http://jibraelangel2blog.blogspot.com/

Kuya bukas po kami punta dito :)

Kuya bukas po kami punta dito :)

Kiindly advise us the actual expenses per head including tour guide, breakfast and lunch.

Have a nice trek.

Sarap mag driving driving sa SCTEX! We love doing it everytime. Kahit kain lang sa Meatplus hahaha

Sarap mag driving driving sa SCTEX! We love doing it everytime. Kahit kain lang sa Meatplus hahaha

Ako din sobrang nalito ako dyan, at first.

Eh kasi ba naman, papunta ako ng Subic, although may signs, parang talagang ewan ko bigla ko lumiko, ayun napunta ako ng Mc Arthur. Hahahah.

^^Tanong ko lang po! meron pong daanan from mc arthure to SCTEx- NLEX Linkage?

^^Tanong ko lang po! meron pong daanan from mc arthure to SCTEx- NLEX Linkage?

YES, meron.
straight - NLEX
U-Turn - SCTEX

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pasok ka sa PINK CIRCLE

YORANGE going to SCTEX using the U turn

LGREEN straight to NLEX


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Ayun pagod ako sa aming Mt Pinatubo Trekking.

1700 including lunch. Masarap naman ang food.
+300 pesos ride sa boat.
+600 pesos if gusto mo pa-massage.

I will Travel in SCTEx last friday and I see the other staff of sctex is in under cleaning maintenence..:cheers: Scedule yata nila ng paglilinis dahil marami akong nakitang naglilinis malapit sa mga exit..



^^@Ichou Mx, Umakyat pala kayo ng Pinatubo? my mga pics ka ba?

Siguro maraming magrereact pero huwag naman sana...pero sana nagtagalog na lang di ba?

BCDA, MNTC enter into negotiations for 33.5-year SCTEX O&M contract (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/245414/bcda-mntc-enter-negotiations-335year-sctex-om-contract)

^^
Maraming matutuwa sa balitang ito! Sana lagyan pa ng MNTC ng mga features na meron sa NLEX para maging truly world-class ang SCTEX. Dami kasing kulang.

BCDA, MNTC to hold talks for SCTEX operation (http://businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22383:bcda-mntc-to-hold-talks-for-sctex-operation&catid=24:companies&Itemid=59)

STATE-owned Bases Conversion and Development Authority (BCDA) will enter into negotiations with the Manila North Tollways Corp. (MNTC) for the operation and maintenance of the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (Sctex).

BCDA assured that the negotiation with MNTC is consistent with the terms of reference (TOR) for the bidding and the existing rules and regulations governing public bidding and government transactions. “The negotiations to be undertaken with MNTC are all intended to obtain for the government the most advantageous terms and conditions for the lease/concession, management, operation and maintenance of Sctex,” said BCDA president and chief executive Narciso Abay. The agency recently declared a failure of bidding for the selection of a private sector partner for the privatization of the toll road.

Lone bidder MNTC, the concessionaire and builder of the North Luzon Expressway, did not submit a protest to challenge an earlier BCDA decision that denied its request to reconsider the financial bid as compliant to the agency’s requirements. Under the TOR for the bidding, MNTC was given until February 18 to file a protest. Instead the MNTC—in a letter to the BCDA dated February 17—manifested its willingness and readiness to enter into negotiations.

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Maraming matutuwa sa balitang ito! Sana lagyan pa ng MNTC ng mga features na meron sa NLEX para maging truly world-class ang SCTEX. Dami kasing kulang.

Feel ko sapat na ang mga features sa SCTEX... Ano pa ba kulang? :)

Feel ko sapat na ang mga features sa SCTEX... Ano pa ba kulang? :)

hmmm kulang sa tao, kasi halos isa o dalawa lang ang teller sa booth nila. eh ang daming pumapasok/lumalabas.

wala pang designated expresspay, yung EC Tag ng NLEX.

ano pa ba?

Feel ko sapat na ang mga features sa SCTEX... Ano pa ba kulang? :)

Walang CCTV, walang emergency lay-bys, walang emergency call boxes, walang electronic variable message signs, at walang EC Tag lanes.

^^ meron na bang balak maglagay ng rest areas?? 90km+ expressway yan, kelangan din ng ganyan in the future...:D

i will travel...last friday???

I will Travel in SCTEx last friday and I see the other staff of sctex is in under cleaning maintenence..:cheers: Scedule yata nila ng paglilinis dahil marami akong nakitang naglilinis malapit sa mga exit..



^^@Ichou Mx, Umakyat pala kayo ng Pinatubo? my mga pics ka ba?

^^ nagulo lang siguro.

yung kulang pa pala is yung 2 gasoline station for north and southbound. at mga sinabi ni anonymous.

^^ mayroon na po bang ginagawang gas station?? kasi isang MALAKING KATAKOT-TAKOT NA D MALAMAN NA GAGAWIN na problema kung naubusan ka ng gasolina dyan... isipin mo.. nasa gitna ka ng SCTEX going to Tarlac then sa kalagitnaan nito... wala na gas. un tulak hanggang TARLAC.... hehehe

^^ mayroon na po bang ginagawang gas station?? kasi isang MALAKING KATAKOT-TAKOT NA D MALAMAN NA GAGAWIN na problema kung naubusan ka ng gasolina dyan... isipin mo.. nasa gitna ka ng SCTEX going to Tarlac then sa kalagitnaan nito... wala na gas. un tulak hanggang TARLAC.... hehehe

parang bihira din ang nag pa-patrol sa SCTEX, wala pa akong nakitang patrol whether patungong Subic from Clark or patungong Tarlac from Clark.

malaking problema nga pag naubusan ng Gas / Diesel sa SCTEX, or masiraan or ma-flat ang gulong. Sino ang mag-assist ? Mas problema kung wala kang dalang cellphone.......... paano ka tatawag nga assistance from anywhere.

hindi rin maganda ang set-up ng SCTEX.

Aren't there emergency phones along the SCTEX? Along NLEX marami and there are many patrol and maintenance vehicles so it's not so difficult getting help in cases of emergency.

Aren't there emergency phones along the SCTEX? Along NLEX marami and there are many patrol and maintenance vehicles so it's not so difficult getting help in cases of emergency.

parang wala akong nakitang phone sa highway ng SCTEX. Later this afternoon I will check it. I usually enter Clark via SCTEX's Clark South Interchange.

^^ Walang emergency phones ala NLEX sa SCTEx. (99.9% sure ako).

Kaya sana si MVP na makakuha ng contract to operate SCTEx para maging mala NLEX din to.

sctex ba ang daan nun mga baguio buses like victory liner?

^^ Alam ko yung Victory Liner na nadaan sa SCTEX ay yung De Luxe, yung meh CR at stewardess sa loob. Non-stop na byahe noon up to Baguio City. I think the fare costs around 750 pesos.

^^ Alam ko yung Victory Liner na nadaan sa SCTEX ay yung De Luxe, yung meh CR at stewardess sa loob. Non-stop na byahe noon up to Baguio City. I think the fare costs around 750 pesos.

Doon ako sumasakay ng Victory Liner sa may Monumento, Caloocan pero wala akong nakikitang stewardess sa mga bus na biyaheng Baguio.

^^ Walang emergency phones ala NLEX sa SCTEx. (99.9% sure ako).

Kaya sana si MVP na makakuha ng contract to operate SCTEx para maging mala NLEX din to.

Yes, wala talaga.

Doon ako sumasakay ng Victory Liner sa may Monumento, Caloocan pero wala akong nakikitang stewardess sa mga bus na biyaheng Baguio.

try Cubao, nonstop sila via Sctex...

try Cubao, nonstop sila via Sctex...

may stop-over ba sila sa Dau, kasi hanggand Dau lang ako.

^^ sa pagkakaalam ko po hindi...:)

Doon ako sumasakay ng Victory Liner sa may Monumento, Caloocan pero wala akong nakikitang stewardess sa mga bus na biyaheng Baguio.

Slight correction, yung conductor pala ng De Luxe ay babaeng conductor. :)

Slight correction, yung conductor pala ng De Luxe ay babaeng conductor. :)

maganda ba ?

^^ Walang emergency phones ala NLEX sa SCTEx. (99.9% sure ako).

Kaya sana si MVP na makakuha ng contract to operate SCTEx para maging mala NLEX din to.

ako 100% sure na meron phone sa nlex at sctex.......twice a week ako dumadaan sa mga yan....dahil nasa pangasinan trabaho ko....

^^
Daddy, 100% sure ako na merong telepono sa NLEX at SCTEX. Yun nga lang, sa NLEX orange emergency telephone boxes ang nakalagay every km sa rural area, every 2 km sa urban area. Sa SCTEX naman, may mga signs na nakalagay yung emergency hotline nila, kelangan mo pang gamitin cellphone mo.

maganda ba ?
hindi:lol:

^Magkano po kaya magiging total toll fee from Balintawak to Subic kung gagamit ng NLEx + SCTEx + Tipo? :)


maganda ba ?
^^ sa pagkakaalam ko po hindi...:)

ako 100% sure na meron phone sa nlex at sctex.......twice a week ako dumadaan sa mga yan....dahil nasa pangasinan trabaho ko....

Sa NLEX meh emergency phones. Sa SCTEX, san ka nakakita ng emergency phones dun? Ang nakita ko lang signage ng emergency hotline numbers.

dp

hindi:lol:

sabagay sa mga movies lang may magandang konduktora.
:)

mas maganda pa yung mga nasa ticket counter.

^Magkano po kaya magiging total toll fee from Balintawak to Subic kung gagamit ng NLEx + SCTEx + Tipo? :)

Balintawak Toll Plaza, pay 36 pesos. NLEX to exit at spur road leading to SCTEx, pay 138 pesos. SCTEx to Subic is 112 pesos. Lastly, 18 pesos via Subic-Tipo Road.

Total is roughly 404 pesos.

mas maganda pa yung mga nasa ticket counter.

Pinakamaganda si Maria Theresa Defensor, ang presidente ng PNCC. Magaling siyang gumawa ng mga kwento.:lol::ohno::bash:

^@balay, wag naman ganun... :lol:


Balintawak Toll Plaza, pay 36 pesos. NLEX to exit at spur road leading to SCTEx, pay 138 pesos. SCTEx to Subic is 112 pesos. Lastly, 18 pesos via Subic-Tipo Road.

Total is roughly 404 pesos.

Thanks for the info! Sana wag muna magtaas hanggang makabakasyon... :)

^@balay, wag naman ganun... :lol:




Thanks for the info! Sana wag muna magtaas hanggang makabakasyon... :)

^^WISH KO SANA HINDI MAGTAAS NG TOLL FEE LALO NA PAG VACATION NA, madalas kami dumaan ng expressway at baka hindi kayanin ng aming bulsa...

Gumain Bridge on SCTEx

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The tallest bridge of SCTEx with 200 ft. high columns.

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^^ nice!! scenic expressway. thanks for sharing...sharp photos btw..:okay:

;52992045']Gumain Bridge on SCTEx

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The tallest bridge of SCTEx with 200 ft. high columns.

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Galing talaga gumawa ng Japanese! Pang-World Class talaga! Ang ganda.

Thanks for sharing the pics. :)

^^Mga Hapon yata ang pinakamatalino sa Yellow Race.

Di tulad ng mga Chinese, magaling lang sila sa pamimirata at pangongopya.:lol::nuts::lol::ohno:

Sa mga Koreans naman, magaling lang sila sa mga koreanovela at sa paggawa ng mga pop songs tulad ng "Nobody"

"I want your money, your money not you..........":lol::nuts::lol::nuts::lol:

Ay mali...Dapat "I want nobody, nobody but you............":lol:

PEACE!!!:)

^ eh ano masasabi mo sa pinoy race when it comes to infra development? hahaha

BALOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! hahahaha

^ eh ano masasabi mo sa pinoy race when it comes to infra development? hahaha

BALOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! hahahaha

just have a look at the Coastal Road Extension project to Kawit. Truly 100% Filipino made. 3 years in the making for 1 kilometer highway. :nuts:

^^Mga Hapon yata ang pinakamatalino sa Yellow Race.

Di tulad ng mga Chinese, magaling lang sila sa pamimirata at pangongopya.:lol::nuts::lol::ohno:

Sa mga Koreans naman, magaling lang sila sa mga koreanovela at sa paggawa ng mga pop songs tulad ng "Nobody"

"I want your money, your money not you..........":lol::nuts::lol::nuts::lol:

Ay mali...Dapat "I want nobody, nobody but you............":lol:

PEACE!!!:)

OT: Naku wag po tayo magsalita ng ganyan sa mga Koreano. Kaparehas na nila mga Hapon pagdating sa technology, car making, at infrastructure. Tignan nyo po yung nasa world forums. Infrastructure and Mobility Forums, tapos may subforum po dun na Highways and Motorways. Tignan nyo na lang po.

^^Mga Hapon yata ang pinakamatalino sa Yellow Race.

Di tulad ng mga Chinese, magaling lang sila sa pamimirata at pangongopya.:lol::nuts::lol::ohno:

Sa mga Koreans naman, magaling lang sila sa mga koreanovela at sa paggawa ng mga pop songs tulad ng "Nobody"

"I want your money, your money not you..........":lol::nuts::lol::nuts::lol:

Ay mali...Dapat "I want nobody, nobody but you............":lol:

PEACE!!!:)

Kahit namimirata ang Chinese, sila naman ang bagong superpower ng mundo. Me utang na nga ang America sa China eh...at ang mga chinese din ang mga pinaka mayamang tao sa pilipinas (Henry Sy anyone?)..

Mga hapon naman, nasa kanila ang pinaka HQ ng Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, Mitsubishi,, Daihatsu, Suzuki, and Isuzu at sila rin ang leading pagdating sa teknolohiya at infrastructure at sila din ang merong pinakaprogresibong ekonomiya sa Asya....Infact, tayo nga ang tapunan ng mga hapon ng second hand EVERYTHING. From trains to cars to cloths!

Mga Koreans naman ay malapit na ring maabot ang level ng hapon pagdating sa ekonomiya, infrastructure at teknolohiya. Nasa kanila ang Hyundai Motor Company at nasa kanila din ang pinaka HQ ng Hanjin Shipping Company, ang pinakamalaking shipping company sa buong SKorea.

Ano naman ang masasabi mo sa pilipinas? Wala! Dahil, OFW at Nursing lang ang kayang abutin ng ordinaryong kababayan natin. Sa infrastructure? Walang wala tayo dyan dahil napagiwanan na tayo to the point na mga hapon pa nga ang gumawa ng SCTEX; Tapos, mga koreans naman ang gumagawa at ng rerehab sa PNR southrail at Chinese naman ang gumagawa ng Northrail! Dahil, eng eng ang pinoy pagdating dyan! Coastal road at STAR tollways ang gawang pinoy at kitang kita mo kung gano katagal matapos Coastal road at gano kapangit ng road quality ng STAR tollways.

Sa military natin? Wala din! Infact, tayo lang ang merong mahinang army sa buong SEAsia. Pinagtatawanan na nga ang army natin eh, lalong lalo na ang malaysia na may Submarines na!..Sa ekonomiya? Wala rin! Natalo pa nga tayo ng Singapore eh :lol:.

So, bago ka mag bitaw ng racist comments, tignan mo muna ang bansa natin. Kaya nga may ukay ukay eh dahil tayo ang dumpsite ng mga Koreans, Chinese, Japanese at ng iba pang bansa...

Kahit namimirata ang Chinese, sila naman ang bagong superpower ng mundo. Me utang na nga ang America sa China eh...at ang mga chinese din ang mga pinaka mayamang tao sa pilipinas (Henry Sy anyone?)..

Mga hapon naman, nasa kanila ang pinaka HQ ng Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, Mitsubishi,, Daihatsu, Suzuki, and Isuzu at sila rin ang leading pagdating sa teknolohiya at infrastructure at sila din ang merong pinakaprogresibong ekonomiya sa Asya....Infact, tayo nga ang tapunan ng mga hapon ng second hand EVERYTHING. From trains to cars to cloths!

Mga Koreans naman ay malapit na ring maabot ang level ng hapon pagdating sa ekonomiya, infrastructure at teknolohiya. Nasa kanila ang Hyundai Motor Company at nasa kanila din ang pinaka HQ ng Hanjin Shipping Company, ang pinakamalaking shipping company sa buong SKorea.

Ano naman ang masasabi mo sa pilipinas? Wala! Dahil, OFW at Nursing lang ang kayang abutin ng ordinaryong kababayan natin. Sa infrastructure? Walang wala tayo dyan dahil napagiwanan na tayo to the point na mga hapon pa nga ang gumawa ng SCTEX; Tapos, mga koreans naman ang gumagawa at ng rerehab sa PNR southrail at Chinese naman ang gumagawa ng Northrail! Dahil, eng eng ang pinoy pagdating dyan! Coastal road at STAR tollways ang gawang pinoy at kitang kita mo kung gano katagal matapos Coastal road at gano kapangit ng road quality ng STAR tollways.

Sa military natin? Wala din! Infact, tayo lang ang merong mahinang army sa buong SEAsia. Pinagtatawanan na nga ang army natin eh, lalong lalo na ang malaysia na may Submarines na!..Sa ekonomiya? Wala rin! Natalo pa nga tayo ng Singapore eh :lol:.

So, bago ka mag bitaw ng racist comments, tignan mo muna ang bansa natin. Kaya nga may ukay ukay eh dahil tayo ang dumpsite ng mga Koreans, Chinese, Japanese at ng iba pang bansa...

korek, about korea din, nandyan ang SAMSUNG
haha OT

"Sa military natin? Wala din! Infact, tayo lang ang merong mahinang army sa buong SEAsia. Pinagtatawanan na nga ang army natin eh, lalong lalo na ang malaysia na may Submarines na!..Sa ekonomiya? Wala rin! Natalo pa nga tayo ng Singapore eh"

Not really. Man for man, the most experienced soldier in the Far East nowadays are the Philippine and Indonesian army. Majority are just constantly training. Training and real combat are two different thing. Look what happened to China when it tried to impose its will on Vietnam. They went home limping.

^^Mga Hapon yata ang pinakamatalino sa Yellow Race.

Di tulad ng mga Chinese, magaling lang sila sa pamimirata at pangongopya.:lol::nuts::lol::ohno:

Sa mga Koreans naman, magaling lang sila sa mga koreanovela at sa paggawa ng mga pop songs tulad ng "Nobody"

"I want your money, your money not you..........":lol::nuts::lol::nuts::lol:

Ay mali...Dapat "I want nobody, nobody but you............":lol:

PEACE!!!:)


^^Wag kang magsalita ng ikasasama ng iba, kung meron man sila galing ang pinoy ba meron galing pagdating sa mga expressway? , hay wala tayo asahan, but truly but shurely meron tayo magagawa

OT: look at it this way: may kanya-kanya tayong strengths and weaknesses. Hindi lahat ng tao magaling sa lahat ng larangan. Kung magaling tayo sa pagproduce ng mga competent nurses at kung anu-ano pa, eh di magpasalamat tayo. Di ba kayo natutuwa at natutugunan natin ang kakulangan sa mga trabahong ganito na hindi kaya ng ibang bansa? So, dapat wag natin minamaliit ang mga OFWs natin. Dapat pasalamatan natin sila ^___^

^ eh ano masasabi mo sa pinoy race when it comes to infra development? hahaha

BALOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! hahahaha

OT: Naku wag po tayo magsalita ng ganyan sa mga Koreano. Kaparehas na nila mga Hapon pagdating sa technology, car making, at infrastructure. Tignan nyo po yung nasa world forums. Infrastructure and Mobility Forums, tapos may subforum po dun na Highways and Motorways. Tignan nyo na lang po.

Kahit namimirata ang Chinese, sila naman ang bagong superpower ng mundo. Me utang na nga ang America sa China eh...at ang mga chinese din ang mga pinaka mayamang tao sa pilipinas (Henry Sy anyone?)..

Mga hapon naman, nasa kanila ang pinaka HQ ng Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, Mitsubishi,, Daihatsu, Suzuki, and Isuzu at sila rin ang leading pagdating sa teknolohiya at infrastructure at sila din ang merong pinakaprogresibong ekonomiya sa Asya....Infact, tayo nga ang tapunan ng mga hapon ng second hand EVERYTHING. From trains to cars to cloths!

Mga Koreans naman ay malapit na ring maabot ang level ng hapon pagdating sa ekonomiya, infrastructure at teknolohiya. Nasa kanila ang Hyundai Motor Company at nasa kanila din ang pinaka HQ ng Hanjin Shipping Company, ang pinakamalaking shipping company sa buong SKorea.

Ano naman ang masasabi mo sa pilipinas? Wala! Dahil, OFW at Nursing lang ang kayang abutin ng ordinaryong kababayan natin. Sa infrastructure? Walang wala tayo dyan dahil napagiwanan na tayo to the point na mga hapon pa nga ang gumawa ng SCTEX; Tapos, mga koreans naman ang gumagawa at ng rerehab sa PNR southrail at Chinese naman ang gumagawa ng Northrail! Dahil, eng eng ang pinoy pagdating dyan! Coastal road at STAR tollways ang gawang pinoy at kitang kita mo kung gano katagal matapos Coastal road at gano kapangit ng road quality ng STAR tollways.

Sa military natin? Wala din! Infact, tayo lang ang merong mahinang army sa buong SEAsia. Pinagtatawanan na nga ang army natin eh, lalong lalo na ang malaysia na may Submarines na!..Sa ekonomiya? Wala rin! Natalo pa nga tayo ng Singapore eh :lol:.

So, bago ka mag bitaw ng racist comments, tignan mo muna ang bansa natin. Kaya nga may ukay ukay eh dahil tayo ang dumpsite ng mga Koreans, Chinese, Japanese at ng iba pang bansa...

^^Wag kang magsalita ng ikasasama ng iba, kung meron man sila galing ang pinoy ba meron galing pagdating sa mga expressway? , hay wala tayo asahan, but truly but shurely meron tayo magagawa

OT: Well, yung post ko about sa Koreans at Chinese ay for “katuwaan” lamang. Hindi ko naman pinipintasan ang dalawang race na ito to the point na seryoso ako. Siyempre, alam ko na may kanya-kanya silang mga kagalingan at abilidad. Hindi naman ako seryoso nung pinost ko na hanggang sa koreanovela at “Nobody” lang ang mga Koreans.:)

Anyways, kung may nabigla at naapektuhan sa pinost ko about sa mga Chinese at Koreans, e pasensia na. Baka kasi may kakilala kayong mga ganitong lahi.:)

About sa ating lahi, e hindi pa naman huli ang lahat pagdating sa infrastructure, propesyon, at kung anu-ano pa. Kailangan lang na pumili ng tama at angkop na mga lider ng ating bansa at magsisimula ito sa Mayo 10, 2010. Hindi pa talaga huli ang lahat.:)

Nagiging OT na kayo...

just have a look at the Coastal Road Extension project to Kawit. Truly 100% Filipino made. 3 years in the making for 1 kilometer highway. :nuts:

Oo nga... Todong todong todo bagal talaga....:ohno:

Kahit namimirata ang Chinese, sila naman ang bagong superpower ng mundo. Me utang na nga ang America sa China eh...at ang mga chinese din ang mga pinaka mayamang tao sa pilipinas (Henry Sy anyone?)..

Mga hapon naman, nasa kanila ang pinaka HQ ng Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Subaru, Mitsubishi,, Daihatsu, Suzuki, and Isuzu at sila rin ang leading pagdating sa teknolohiya at infrastructure at sila din ang merong pinakaprogresibong ekonomiya sa Asya....Infact, tayo nga ang tapunan ng mga hapon ng second hand EVERYTHING. From trains to cars to cloths!

Mga Koreans naman ay malapit na ring maabot ang level ng hapon pagdating sa ekonomiya, infrastructure at teknolohiya. Nasa kanila ang Hyundai Motor Company at nasa kanila din ang pinaka HQ ng Hanjin Shipping Company, ang pinakamalaking shipping company sa buong SKorea.

Ano naman ang masasabi mo sa pilipinas? Wala! Dahil, OFW at Nursing lang ang kayang abutin ng ordinaryong kababayan natin. Sa infrastructure? Walang wala tayo dyan dahil napagiwanan na tayo to the point na mga hapon pa nga ang gumawa ng SCTEX; Tapos, mga koreans naman ang gumagawa at ng rerehab sa PNR southrail at Chinese naman ang gumagawa ng Northrail! Dahil, eng eng ang pinoy pagdating dyan! Coastal road at STAR tollways ang gawang pinoy at kitang kita mo kung gano katagal matapos Coastal road at gano kapangit ng road quality ng STAR tollways.

Sa military natin? Wala din! Infact, tayo lang ang merong mahinang army sa buong SEAsia. Pinagtatawanan na nga ang army natin eh, lalong lalo na ang malaysia na may Submarines na!..Sa ekonomiya? Wala rin! Natalo pa nga tayo ng Singapore eh :lol:.

So, bago ka mag bitaw ng racist comments, tignan mo muna ang bansa natin. Kaya nga may ukay ukay eh dahil tayo ang dumpsite ng mga Koreans, Chinese, Japanese at ng iba pang bansa...

Naku, tama lahat sinabi mo... :lol:

OT: I had just visited the Japanese Expressways a while ago na sinabi ni anonymus.... Nahihilo na ako sa mga expressways nila sa dami at complicated....

isang malaking :eek2:.......

^^Hehe. Ako ang nagsimula eh...:lol:

"Sa military natin? Wala din! Infact, tayo lang ang merong mahinang army sa buong SEAsia. Pinagtatawanan na nga ang army natin eh, lalong lalo na ang malaysia na may Submarines na!..Sa ekonomiya? Wala rin! Natalo pa nga tayo ng Singapore eh"

Not really. Man for man, the most experienced soldier in the Far East nowadays are the Philippine and Indonesian army. Majority are just constantly training. Training and real combat are two different thing. Look what happened to China when it tried to impose its will on Vietnam. They went home limping.

Interms of man power at experience, dyan tayo malakas. Kaso, pagdating sa kagamitan ng Navy, Airforce at Army...Nako...Patay tayo dyan. :nuts:

OT: look at it this way: may kanya-kanya tayong strengths and weaknesses. Hindi lahat ng tao magaling sa lahat ng larangan. Kung magaling tayo sa pagproduce ng mga competent nurses at kung anu-ano pa, eh di magpasalamat tayo. Di ba kayo natutuwa at natutugunan natin ang kakulangan sa mga trabahong ganito na hindi kaya ng ibang bansa? So, dapat wag natin minamaliit ang mga OFWs natin. Dapat pasalamatan natin sila ^___^

Agreed. I also salute the OFW's for saving the philippine economy's ass from bankruptcy :cheers:.


^^Hehe. Ako ang nagsimula eh...:lol:

Ikaw kasi eh :tongue:

Oo nga... Todong todong todo bagal talaga....:ohno:



Naku, tama lahat sinabi mo... :lol:

OT: I had just visited the Japanese Expressways a while ago na sinabi ni anonymus.... Nahihilo na ako sa mga expressways nila sa dami at complicated....

isang malaking :eek2:.......

OT: South Korean expressways po yung sinasabi ko, hindi po Japanese.

OT: South Korean expressways po yung sinasabi ko, hindi po Japanese.

Ah... okey, kala ko kasi tinutukoy mo yung japanese expy. cge, i'll visit nalang... :)

SCTEX beefs up domestic tourist traffic in Central Luzon (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=558032&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
(The Philippine Star) Updated March 15, 2010 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Domestic tourist traffic to Central Luzon increased by 9.24 percent last year compared to the 2008 figure as the state-run Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEX) became fully operational.

“As most domestic travelers come from Metro Manila, the full completion of the SCTEX and its seamless complementation with the North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) augured well for the transformation of the Northern Luzon region – namely, Central Luzon, Ilocos, Cagayan Valley and Cordilleras – into favorite tourist destinations,” said Ronaldo “Ronnie” Tiotuico, regional director for Central Luzon of the Department of Tourism (DOT).

Domestic tourists refer to Filipino and foreign travelers residing in the Philippines. The DOT distinguishes them from foreign visitors who are made up of tourists from other countries as well as Filipino balikbayans.

Based on the figures submitted by hotels, hostels and other tourist accommodation facilities in Central Luzon, domestic visitor arrivals in the region went up from 365,463 in 2008 to 399,224 last year.

“A major reason for this increase was the region’s easy access from Metro Manila,” Tiotuico noted. “Now, more than ever, land travel has never been this easy.”

Ten of the 11 interchanges of the 94-kilometer SCTEX were operational in 2009. The Floridablanca Interchange opened for commercial operations last January 2010 signaling all 11 interchanges open for commercial operations.

Domestic tourists, comprising 72.5 percent of the total 550,277 tourist arrivals in 2009, visited and stayed at least one night in the various accommodation facilities in the provinces and cities of Central Luzon. Foreign visitors, mostly tourists coming from the United States of America, Japan and South Korea, accounted for 27.5 percent of last year’s arrival figures.

Around 98.99 percent of the total domestic travelers registered last year was made up of Filipinos while the remaining 1.01 percent was comprised of foreigners residing in the Philippines.

Over the last three years, domestic tourist traffic increased by 57 percent from the 254,273 domestic visitor arrivals total in 2006. This, Tiotuico observed, could be attributed to the so-called “holiday economics” of the Arroyo administration which allows Filipinos as well as foreigners living in the country to plan their vacation ahead of time targeting mostly the long weekends.

Under its holiday economics program, the Arroyo government moves holidays falling in the middle of the week to the nearest Monday or Friday to minimize work disruptions, thereby creating three-day or, sometimes, even longer weekends.

“All these figures indicate that domestic tourism is still the backbone of the industry and a reflection of what the region offers in terms of tourist facilities and amenities which any visitor may take advantage of,” said Tiotuico.

The tourism executive said the Clark Freeport Zone in Pampanga, for example, is known for its quality and world-class accommodation amenities. The same is true for the Subic Bay Freeport Zone in Zambales which, aside from its top-notch accommodation facilities, also boasts of nature-based attractions that offer visitors a wide range of options.

SCTEX beefs up domestic tourist traffic in Central Luzon (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=558032&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
(The Philippine Star) Updated March 15, 2010 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Domestic tourist traffic to Central Luzon increased by 9.24 percent last year compared to the 2008 figure as the state-run Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEX) became fully operational.

“As most domestic travelers come from Metro Manila, the full completion of the SCTEX and its seamless complementation with the North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) augured well for the transformation of the Northern Luzon region – namely, Central Luzon, Ilocos, Cagayan Valley and Cordilleras – into favorite tourist destinations,” said Ronaldo “Ronnie” Tiotuico, regional director for Central Luzon of the Department of Tourism (DOT).

Domestic tourists refer to Filipino and foreign travelers residing in the Philippines. The DOT distinguishes them from foreign visitors who are made up of tourists from other countries as well as Filipino balikbayans.

Based on the figures submitted by hotels, hostels and other tourist accommodation facilities in Central Luzon, domestic visitor arrivals in the region went up from 365,463 in 2008 to 399,224 last year.

“A major reason for this increase was the region’s easy access from Metro Manila,” Tiotuico noted. “Now, more than ever, land travel has never been this easy.”

Ten of the 11 interchanges of the 94-kilometer SCTEX were operational in 2009. The Floridablanca Interchange opened for commercial operations last January 2010 signaling all 11 interchanges open for commercial operations.

Domestic tourists, comprising 72.5 percent of the total 550,277 tourist arrivals in 2009, visited and stayed at least one night in the various accommodation facilities in the provinces and cities of Central Luzon. Foreign visitors, mostly tourists coming from the United States of America, Japan and South Korea, accounted for 27.5 percent of last year’s arrival figures.

Around 98.99 percent of the total domestic travelers registered last year was made up of Filipinos while the remaining 1.01 percent was comprised of foreigners residing in the Philippines.

Over the last three years, domestic tourist traffic increased by 57 percent from the 254,273 domestic visitor arrivals total in 2006. This, Tiotuico observed, could be attributed to the so-called “holiday economics” of the Arroyo administration which allows Filipinos as well as foreigners living in the country to plan their vacation ahead of time targeting mostly the long weekends.

Under its holiday economics program, the Arroyo government moves holidays falling in the middle of the week to the nearest Monday or Friday to minimize work disruptions, thereby creating three-day or, sometimes, even longer weekends.

“All these figures indicate that domestic tourism is still the backbone of the industry and a reflection of what the region offers in terms of tourist facilities and amenities which any visitor may take advantage of,” said Tiotuico.

The tourism executive said the Clark Freeport Zone in Pampanga, for example, is known for its quality and world-class accommodation amenities. The same is true for the Subic Bay Freeport Zone in Zambales which, aside from its top-notch accommodation facilities, also boasts of nature-based attractions that offer visitors a wide range of options.

Ito ang Benefit ng SCTEX. Pampaginhawa ng buhay... :lol:

Ayan tuloy, maraming tourist pumupunta sa Northern part because of good transportation link. :)

So I encourage to government to construct more expressways and link it to tourism. SCTEX is the best example. :okay:

^^That's what you call "accessibility".:banana:

salamat pangulong gloria....:lol:

salamat pangulong gloria....:lol:

bakit kailangang magpasalamat pa. trabaho ng nakaupong presidente na gawin nila ang trabaho nila especially they were paid salaries to do their job.
It was their obligations.

tsaka marami din silang porsiyento and commissions sa bawat project kaya
halos doble ang halaga ng bawat government project.

bakit kailangang magpasalamat pa. trabaho ng nakaupong presidente na gawin nila ang trabaho nila especially they were paid salaries to do their job.
It was their obligations.

tsaka marami din silang porsiyento and commissions sa bawat project kaya
halos doble ang halaga ng bawat government project.

Trabaho nga nila pero ang problema kasi, di naman ginawa ng mga dating Pangulo o administrasyon.

Trabaho nga nila pero ang problema kasi, di naman ginawa ng mga dating Pangulo o administrasyon.

katunayan si Cory ang halos walang ginawang project, kaya dapat
huwag nang iboto si Noynoy.

katunayan si Cory ang halos walang ginawang project, kaya dapat
huwag nang iboto si Noynoy.

meron naman. Di ba sya yung nag umpisa ng PCGG? Dun napunta ang budget. Pero wala naman nangyari.

Kawawa talaga ang pinas nun. Makita mo ang pasig river, luneta sobrang dumi, PNR, pati mga patrol cars ng mga pulis, lumang luma.

katunayan si Cory ang halos walang ginawang project, kaya dapat
huwag nang iboto si Noynoy.

OT: Mahilig ba si Noynoy sa mga infrastructures and transportation? Kung hindi, bakit marami pa rin ang bumoboto sa kanya? :nuts:

SCTEx nanaman ang dinaanan namin papuntang Dinalupihan, laking ginhawa...


Ito ang Benefit ng SCTEX. Pampaginhawa ng buhay... :lol:

Ayan tuloy, maraming tourist pumupunta sa Northern part because of good transportation link. :)

So I encourage to government to construct more expressways and link it to tourism. SCTEX is the best example. :okay:


^^That's my big question, bakit sa nakikita ko na mas maraming nagpupunta ng north sa halip mas maraming spot dito sa south,

^^That's what you call "accessibility".:banana:

salamat pangulong gloria....:lol:


salamat kay PGMA dahil pampanga lang ang pinaunlad niya:nuts:

OT: Mahilig ba si Noynoy sa mga infrastructures and transportation? Kung hindi, bakit marami pa rin ang bumoboto sa kanya? :nuts:


^^Wala naman iyan sa pangako ni noy noy kapag naging presidente siya, hay, Hindi kasi nakikita ng mga tao ang kahalagahan ng Infrastructure, basta nalang sila boboto na hindi nag rereview:ohno::bash:

SCTEx nanaman ang dinaanan namin papuntang Dinalupihan, laking ginhawa...


^^That's my big question, bakit sa nakikita ko na mas maraming nagpupunta ng north sa halip mas maraming spot dito sa south,


salamat kay PGMA dahil pampanga lang ang pinaunlad niya:nuts:

^^Wala naman iyan sa pangako ni noy noy kapag naging presidente siya, hay, Hindi kasi nakikita ng mga tao ang kahalagahan ng Infrastructure, basta nalang sila boboto na hindi nag rereview:ohno::bash:

Katunayan ang project ng SCTEX ay si Erap ang nagsimula at sya ang nag ayos sa Japanese government para matuloy ang project na yaon. Sa panahon na lang ni GMA natapos ang SCTEX.

-dp-

Katunayan ang project ng SCTEX ay si Erap ang nagsimula at sya ang nag ayos sa Japanese government para matuloy ang project na yaon. Sa panahon na lang ni GMA natapos ang SCTEX.

Yan ang totoong presidente! Hinde iniscrap ang isang project ng isang "former" president! Imbes na iscrap nya, tinuloy pa nya! I love you madam president :cheers:

bakit kailangang magpasalamat pa. trabaho ng nakaupong presidente na gawin nila ang trabaho nila especially they were paid salaries to do their job.
It was their obligations.

Salamat pa rin sa kanya dahil ginawa nya ang obligasyon nya :cheers:

^^That's my big question, bakit sa nakikita ko na mas maraming nagpupunta ng north sa halip mas maraming spot dito sa south,

salamat kay PGMA dahil pampanga lang ang pinaunlad niya:nuts:

OT: Para sa akin, huwag nating i-compare ang tourism potentials ng North at South Luzon. Pareho silang may mga magagandang mga tourist spots. (Banawe Rice Terraces, Baguio, Mt. Pinatubo, Hundred Islands, Pagudpud sa North while Puerto Galera, Tagaytay, Pagsanjan Falls, Palawan, Mt. Mayon sa South) Dapat maging happy tayo na maraming pumupunta mapa-foreigner o Pinoy man sa ating bansa at dinarayo ang ating mga tourist spots.:)

Sa ngayon, ang top tourist destinations sa bansa ay Cebu, Palawan, Bohol, Camarines Sur, at Davao.:)

Wala na tayong magagawa roon. Yun yung "home province" niya eh.:lol:

Mahirap ding i-define kung ano ang "kaunlaran" kung marami namang mga tao sa isang probinsya o lungsod ang naghihirap at walang trabaho at may korupsyon sa gobyerno sa kabila ng mga negosyong umuusbong sa isang lugar.:ohno:

Nga pala, tanong lang, ang ruta ba ng SCTEX ay yung ruta rin ng Bataan Death March? Curios lang talaga ako kasi halos pareho ang kanilang mga ruta. Kaya pala Japanese ang gumawa nito kasi may "historical" value itong SCTEX sa kanila at bilang kabayaran na rin sa ginawa nila noong panahon ng digmaan.

Salamat pa rin sa kanya dahil ginawa nya ang obligasyon nya :cheers:

Tama si Mr. TheAvenger na huwag nating bigyan ng "salamat" si PGMA kasi nga trabaho niya iyon na mag-implement at gumawa ng mga infrastructures gaya ng SCTEX. Isipin ninyo na lang ang isang alipin. Kapag ang isang alipin ay gumawa ng mga bagay na ikatu-tuwa ng kanyang amo, siyempre hindi magpapasalamat ang kanyang amo dahil tungkulin ng alipin na pagsilbihan siya. Ganoon din si PGMA. Siya ang alipin at tayo naman ang kanyang amo. Nasa Bibliya ang principle na iyan.:)

grabe ang layo na nang narating ng usapang salamat na yan. Papalit-palit lang ng thread.

Ang masasabi ko lang, salamat kung babalik tayong lahat sa topic noh?

Tama si Mr. TheAvenger na huwag nating bigyan ng "salamat" si PGMA kasi nga trabaho niya iyon na mag-implement at gumawa ng mga infrastructures gaya ng SCTEX. Isipin ninyo na lang ang isang alipin. Kapag ang isang alipin ay gumawa ng mga bagay na ikatu-tuwa ng kanyang amo, siyempre hindi magpapasalamat ang kanyang amo dahil tungkulin ng alipin na pagsilbihan siya. Ganoon din si PGMA. Siya ang alipin at tayo naman ang kanyang amo. Nasa Bibliya ang principle na iyan.:)

wag ka ngang magsalita ng ganyan at baka magsisi ka pag si noynoy ang nanalo at pinahinto lahat ng infrastructure.

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anong masama sa pagpapasalamat?

if ikaw ang presidenteng nakagawa ng ganitong expressway, alam ko naman sa sarili mong, hindi mo na kailangan pasalamatan ka sa ginawa mo, dahil nga responisibility mo ito. PERO, anong magagawa mo kung gusto kang pasalamatan ng mga tao dahil sa ginawa mo?

Just accept it. You deserves to be appreciated as well.

Ang magpasalamat ay kailanma'y hindi masama. Huwag ito ipagkait o pagdamot..

Theres The Rub
Signs

By Conrado de Quiros
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 23:40:00 03/03/2010


THERE’S AN ASTONISHING SIGN AT THE foot of the footbridge connecting SM North to West Avenue spanning Edsa. Except that nobody finds it astonishing. Certainly I haven’t read or heard anyone comment on it in the newspapers or TV and radio. In fact I haven’t heard anyone comment on it in conversations.

That sign comes in the form of a streamer that says, “Salamat po Pangulong Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo sa footbridge na ito!” (Thank you President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo for this footbridge!)

I have seen that sign not just on the footbridge of SM-West but on the various footbridges that dot the major avenues of Metro Manila. There’s one in Quezon Avenue near Roces and several in Edsa.


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I gather this is part of GMA’s campaign to advertise her accomplishments before she leaves. Or before she messes up the elections with an automation system that is guaranteed to mess up the elections, and remains in power. But this sign takes the cake.

I saw it one night last week, when the traffic in the area was especially bad when it really shouldn’t be (the buses merely parked in the middle of the road and other vehicles made a U-turn in front of Trionoma, leaving no lane for those going straight ahead) and I was infuriated. I lamented the disappearance of the activists who used to mount blitzkrieg attacks in the night, pasting signs on walls, called peryodikits because their words of protest were painted in red on old newspapers. If they were around, they might have pasted a sign underneath the streamers that shouted:

“(Swastika, lightning bolt, hypnotic circles, exclamation points) mo, di mo pera yan, pera namin yan!”

In fact, I would encourage everyone, activist or not, to put such a sign in whatever form—poster, streamer, graffiti, etc.—above or below or beside the streamer that says it. Still in fact, I would encourage the Supreme Court to declare such an act completely legal—and not a furtive act of vandalism—if they do not have the balls to declare the original fawning declaration horrendously illegal.

There’s GMA’s legacy right there, in plain view of the world. To see how execrable it is, imagine a sign that says, “Salamat po Pangulong Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo sa aming buhay!” In the first place, what’s execrable about it is saying “Pangulo” because she is not. She is merely the un-evicted squatter of Malacañang for the last nine years. In the second place, what’s execrable about it is that she does not own our life, we do. We do not exist by the grace of her, or at her sufferance. Our life is our own, it is not hers to do with as she pleases.


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So are taxes. What built that footbridge are our taxes. What built that footbridge is the 15 percent the Inquirer deducts from my hard-earned pay (if you don’t think that’s hard-earned, try writing every day), which pisses me off no end but which I can’t do anything about. What built that footbridge are the various amounts the government offices squeeze off from us every time we need to procure an official document, like a driver’s license, like a sari-sari store license, like a license for a stall in a wet market selling slaughtered pig. What built that footbridge is the fortune being ripped off from us every time we buy something, which is what the EVAT is for, which is the technical term for highway robbery.

The old signs were bad enough, the ones that said, “This bridge is being built courtesy of Mayor Sugapa,” or “This road repair is being done courtesy of Governor Swapang.” They made a case only for the public treasury being the private piggybank of the mayor or governor with the call for gratitude from their constituents being implicit. This one is brazenly forthright, “Salamat po Pangulong Gloria.” It conjures the image of Juan de la Cruz kneeling down before the source of the benefaction, kissing her hand, and gushing forth unstinting gratitude. No wonder there’s an epidemic of strokes in this country. Maybe that’s what the signs are meant to do.


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Ortigas near Robinson Galleria


Salamat for what? For tossing a coin back to us, like watch-your-car boys, from the Ali Baba treasure in EVAT and unprecedented borrowing since Marcos stole from us? For using our money the way it ought to be used?

There and then, you see why corruption thrives in this country. It is not just because our public officials are greedier than others—although a case can always be made for it, their levels of unscrupulousness arguing for changing our name to Ladrones Islands. It is not because we have more to steal—after Marcos and Macapagal, who haven’t just stolen our present and our future but our bodies and souls, heaven knows what else their successors will have left to steal.

It is because we allow our public officials to steal from us. And we allow them to steal from us because we do not see that they are stealing from us.

http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20100303-256534/Signs

Ilagay natin sa simple explanation:

Ikaw ay isang magulang, humingi ng piso ang iyong anak at bumili cia ng tinapay. Nung nakabili na yung anak ng tinapay binigyan ka nya ng isang pisngit tapos sabi mo sa anak mo salamat anak.

nakita mo na ba ang point kung bakit nag papasalamat ang mga tao.

Kung ikaw kaya maging presidenti ng pinas tapos gawin kang alipin ng pinoy at yurakan ang iyong dangal, meron ka pa bang gana na mag trabaho bilang isang presidenti?

Alam ko namana na kontra ka kay bansot.... hehehehehehehe

Pero ako favor ako sa ginawa nya. At least marami na mga pilipino ang makatikim ng maginhawang biyahe.

Ilagay natin sa simple explanation:

Ikaw ay isang magulang, humingi ng piso ang iyong anak at bumili cia ng tinapay. Nung nakabili na yung anak ng tinapay binigyan ka nya ng isang pisngit tapos sabi mo sa anak mo salamat anak.

nakita mo na ba ang point kung bakit nag papasalamat ang mga tao.

Kung ikaw kaya maging presidenti ng pinas tapos gawin kang alipin ng pinoy at yurakan ang iyong dangal, meron ka pa bang gana na mag trabaho bilang isang presidenti?

Alam ko namana na kontra ka kay bansot.... hehehehehehehe

Pero ako favor ako sa ginawa nya. At least marami na mga pilipino ang makatikim ng maginhawang biyahe.

despite the alleged controversies and attempt na pabagsakin ang Arroyo Gov't hindi natinag ang pangulo.

Maraming infrastructurse ang nagawa under her administration for that kailangan nating pasalamatan si GMA.

Kailangan magmature naman ang pag-iisip ng mga tao at maappreciate ang mga nagawa ng pangulo alisin na ang crab mentality di nakakatulong yan sa bansa

Hindi ko maintindihan yung argument na "buwis natin ang ginagamit kaya dapat hindi tayo magpasalamat". It's true, pera natin ang ginamit. Pero project yan ng kung sino mang pangulo o opisyal o gobyerno na nakaupo. Kaya nga may gobyerno para mag-implement ng kung ano mang project na magpapagaan sa buhay ng mga tao. Kung walang pangulo na gagawa ng mga projects na yan, sino ang inaasahan nyong magpatayo ng mga footbridges at mga kalsada na yan? Tayo? Sige, kung gusto nyo wag na kayong magbayad ng buwis sa gobyerno, ipunin nyo yung buwis nyo tapos pag nakaipon na kayo, magpatayo kayo ng infrastructures at kayo mismo ang gagawa. Para sa ganun, hindi na ninyo pasalamatan si Pangulong Gloria. Pasalamatan nyo sarili nyo.

Ilagay natin sa simple explanation:

Ikaw ay isang magulang, humingi ng piso ang iyong anak at bumili cia ng tinapay. Nung nakabili na yung anak ng tinapay binigyan ka nya ng isang pisngit tapos sabi mo sa anak mo salamat anak.

nakita mo na ba ang point kung bakit nag papasalamat ang mga tao.

Kung ikaw kaya maging presidenti ng pinas tapos gawin kang alipin ng pinoy at yurakan ang iyong dangal, meron ka pa bang gana na mag trabaho bilang isang presidenti?

Alam ko namana na kontra ka kay bansot.... hehehehehehehe

Pero ako favor ako sa ginawa nya. At least marami na mga pilipino ang makatikim ng maginhawang biyahe.

Theres nothing wrong with that.

Just accept it. You deserves to be appreciated as well.

Ang magpasalamat ay kailanma'y hindi masama. Huwag ito ipagkait o ipagdamot.

double post, bakit kaya nagkaganon

Salamat for what? For tossing a coin back to us, like watch-your-car boys, from the Ali Baba treasure in EVAT and unprecedented borrowing since Marcos stole from us? For using our money the way it ought to be used?

There and then, you see why corruption thrives in this country. It is not just because our public officials are greedier than others—although a case can always be made for it, their levels of unscrupulousness arguing for changing our name to Ladrones Islands. It is not because we have more to steal—after Marcos and Macapagal, who haven’t just stolen our present and our future but our bodies and souls, heaven knows what else their successors will have left to steal.

It is because we allow our public officials to steal from us. And we allow them to steal from us because we do not see that they are stealing from us.

http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20100303-256534/Signs

Talagang pwede kang magpasalamat kay gloria arroyo for her undeniable hard work despite the attemps of our politicians with a bad case of crab mentality.

Ang hinde karapat dapat na pasalamatan ay un mga pulpol na mga politicians na halos WALANG ginawa kumpara kay gloria na naglunsad ng massive infrastructure projects.

^^ Sinayang rin nya ang ang atin pera, di nyo ba naisip, na ang tarpauline na yan ay galing rin sa buwis ng tao? :ohno: Dapat lang di na kailangan ilagay pa yan eh. SAYANG LANG YAN SA PERA. Basta alam mo magpasalamat kay President GMA yan yung mahalaga. Bakit pang gumawa ng tarpauline para alamin na pasalamatin dapat natin si PGMA? Sayang lang sa pera yan eh.

*OOOOOPS, lumalayo na tayo sa topic... Balik na tayo sa SCTEX.

BTW, Salamat sa SCTEX, PGMA! :lol:

despite the alleged controversies and attempt na pabagsakin ang Arroyo Gov't hindi natinag ang pangulo.

Maraming infrastructurse ang nagawa under her administration for that kailangan nating pasalamatan si GMA.

Kailangan magmature naman ang pag-iisip ng mga tao at maappreciate ang mga nagawa ng pangulo alisin na ang crab mentality di nakakatulong yan sa bansa


The Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway or SCTEx Project was initiated under the administration of former President Joseph Estrada with an original project cost of P15.73 billion. Construction was started in 2005 under the government of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo. It is the longest tollway in the Philippines that connects Subic, Clark and Tarlac. During the year 2007 the project was delayed but before 2008, construction resumed. It was completed with a project cost of P32 billion.

Naging doble ang halaga ng project from Php 15.73 billion to Php 32 billion.
PARANG MAY LUTONG MACAO.

Marami ngang project na utang, na lumobo naman ang cost. bakit kaya ?
tiyak na maraming naka commissions. :)

Nangurakot na silang mga "sugapa" at "buwaya" ay magpapasalamat pa ba tayo sa kanila? ano hilo ?

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President Arroyo committed an impeachable offense, that of culpable violation of the Constitution, when she did not stop the corruption that attended the negotiations for the overpriced $329 million national broadband network project with the Chinese firm Zhong Xing Telecommunications Equipment, the Senate Blue Ribbon committee said in its draft report.

“There’s a culpable violation of the Constitution. Why did she not stop these people from committing crimes?” committee chair Sen. Richard Gordon said in a press conference.

Gordon routed the 127-page report among senators yesterday.

The committee started its investigation in September 2007. It has conducted 13 hearings and four technical working group hearings since then.

Aside from Gordon, four other senators signed the report as of last night. They were minority leader Aquilino Pimentel, Senators Edgardo Angara, Gregorio Honasan and Joker Arroyo.

http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=8098

The Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway or SCTEx Project was initiated under the administration of former President Joseph Estrada with an original project cost of P15.73 billion. Construction was started in 2005 under the government of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo. It is the longest tollway in the Philippines that connects Subic, Clark and Tarlac. During the year 2007 the project was delayed but before 2008, construction resumed. It was completed with a project cost of P32 billion.

Naging doble ang halaga ng project from Php 15.73 billion to Php 32 billion.
PARANG MAY LUTONG MACAO.

Marami ngang project na utang, na lumobo naman ang cost. bakit kaya ?
tiyak na maraming naka commissions. :)

Nangurakot na silang mga "sugapa" at "buwaya" ay magpapasalamat pa ba tayo sa kanila? ano hilo ?

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President Arroyo committed an impeachable offense, that of culpable violation of the Constitution, when she did not stop the corruption that attended the negotiations for the overpriced $329 million national broadband network project with the Chinese firm Zhong Xing Telecommunications Equipment, the Senate Blue Ribbon committee said in its draft report.

“There’s a culpable violation of the Constitution. Why did she not stop these people from committing crimes?” committee chair Sen. Richard Gordon said in a press conference.

Gordon routed the 127-page report among senators yesterday.

The committee started its investigation in September 2007. It has conducted 13 hearings and four technical working group hearings since then.

Aside from Gordon, four other senators signed the report as of last night. They were minority leader Aquilino Pimentel, Senators Edgardo Angara, Gregorio Honasan and Joker Arroyo.

http://www.ellentordesillas.com/?p=8098

yan ang hirap sa mga taong ganito kaya walang asenso ang pilipinas e. Pag walang naipagawang highway o infrastructure, ang sasabihin kase kinukurakot ang buwis, pag meron naman sasabihin malaki na naman ang nakurakot dyan dahil sa dami ng patong. :nuts::bash:

Hindi naman natin alam ang buong detalye bakit lumaki ang gastos. Malay mo may nadagdag pala sa scope.
Isa pa, wala na tayong pakialam dun kung may mga kumita. Ang importante may naipatayong infrastructure at guminhawa ang buhay natin.

Kung inggit ka dun sa mga kumita, e di mag politiko ka din. :lol:

yan ang hirap sa mga taong ganito kaya walang asenso ang pilipinas e. Pag walang naipagawang highway o infrastructure, ang sasabihin kase kinukurakot ang buwis, pag meron naman sasabihin malaki na naman ang nakurakot dyan dahil sa dami ng patong. :nuts::bash:

Hindi naman natin alam ang buong detalye bakit lumaki ang gastos. Malay mo may nadagdag pala sa scope.
Isa pa, wala na tayong pakialam dun kung may mga kumita. Ang importante may naipatayong infrastructure at guminhawa ang buhay natin.

Kung inggit ka dun sa mga kumita, e di mag politiko ka din. :lol:

bakit walang pakialam ? , pera ng bayan ang pambayad sa mga inutang (foreign loan) na yaon.

mas gusto kong mamundok at ipagtanggol at ipaglaban ang karapatan ng masang pilipino kaysa maging isang dayukdok na traditional politicians.

^^ Ibig sabihin po ba nito ay di kayo sang ayon sa pagtatayo ng SCTEX (bukol included) ?

^^ Mukha nga....Wala na akong paki kung may kumita o wala sa pag tayo ng SCTEX. Basta, i like how SCTEX looks today....sobrang ganda ng quality kaya parang worth it parin un dinoble sa pagpatayo nito..

^^ Antayin rin ang kalabasan at pagkagawa ng TPLEX. Baka katulad rin sya sa situation in SCTEX. :nuts:

bakit walang pakialam ? , pera ng bayan ang pambayad sa mga inutang (foreign loan) na yaon.

mas gusto kong mamundok at ipagtanggol at ipaglaban ang karapatan ng masang pilipino kaysa maging isang dayukdok na traditional politicians.

pag nagtrabaho ka sa isang kumpanya, di mo ba alam na kumita ang kumpanya sa dugo at pawis mo?

Alam mo ba na ang mga agency na nagpapadala ng mga OFW e kumikita sa dugo at pawis ng mga kawawang OFW? Pano na kaya pag walang mga agency na kikita. Siguro nagkikisay na sa gutom ang mga kawawa nating kababayan. :nuts:

pag nagtrabaho ka sa isang kumpanya, di mo ba alam na kumita ang kumpanya sa dugo at pawis mo?

Alam mo ba na ang mga agency na nagpapadala ng mga OFW e kumikita sa dugo at pawis ng mga kawawang OFW? Pano na kaya pag walang mga agency na kikita. Siguro nagkikisay na sa gutom ang mga kawawa nating kababayan. :nuts:

wala talagang masama kung kumita ang mga kompanya sa mga infrastructure project.

ANG MASAMA KUNG ANG MGA NAKAUPO SA GOVIERNO AY MANGURAKOT, KUMUHA NG COMMISSIONS, ETC MULA SA MGA CONTRACTORS AT ETC. OCRRUPTIONS NA YAON.

Dahil pag ang mga nakaupo sa government ay kumuha ng commissions mula sa contractors ay sa quality naman ng works babawi ang mga contractors. Kung hindi bawiin ng contractors sa quality ng works at nagbayad naman ang government sa inflated cost, then ang lugi ay ang mamamayan.

Bakit kailangang mamili tayo na infrastructure, highways, etc na may corruptiosn at walang project at all. Sa ibang countries naman ay may project din sila na walang corruptions.

^^ Ibig sabihin po ba nito ay di kayo sang ayon sa pagtatayo ng SCTEX (bukol included) ?

of course common sense lang na kahit sinong mamamayan ay gusto ng mga highways at iba pang infrastructure projects pero hindi ibig sabihin noon ay payag sila sa mga corruptions na nagiging dahilan ng inflated cost ng mgra projects. Bakit hindi kayo magbasa ng mga investigative reporting mula sa media, hindi naman mag publish sila ng maling balita or reports.

ang problema sa inyo ay pinaniniwalaan nyo ang mga garapal na magnanakaw sa govierno. or siguro ay mga contractor kayo sa mga government project, kaya okey lang sa inyo ang anumang corruptions dahil kumikita naman kayo. Maka karma din kayo pagdating ng araw.

^ kaya nga ang sabi ko sa yo, negosyo ang lahat ng ginagalawan natin.

Kung empleyado ka, bakit di ka magreklamo sa amo mo dahil ikaw itong nagpapakahirap e yung may ari ng kumpanya ang yumayaman?

Dito na lang sa pag gamit mo ng internet, alam mo ba na kumikita ang ISP sa yo? Kung naka smart bro ka e yumaman na si Manny Pangilinan sa yo.

Lahat naman tayo hindi pabor sa mga ganyan. Ano ba ang gusto mo bumalik sa pagiging cave man ang mga tao? :lol:

^ kaya nga ang sabi ko sa yo, negosyo ang lahat ng ginagalawan natin.

Kung empleyado ka, bakit di ka magreklamo sa amo mo dahil ikaw itong nagpapakahirap e yung may ari ng kumpanya ang yumayaman?

Dito na lang sa pag gamit mo ng internet, alam mo ba na kumikita ang ISP sa yo? Kung naka smart bro ka e yumaman na si Manny Pangilinan sa yo.

Lahat naman tayo hindi pabor sa mga ganyan. Ano ba ang gusto mo bumalik sa pagiging cave man ang mga tao? :lol:

ano gusto ko ?
a Philippines without corrupt peoples especially corrupt government officials.

a world without bansot and her supporters / fans.

ano gusto ko ?
a Philippines without corrupt peoples especially corrupt government officials.

a world without bansot and her supporters / fans.

1.Pre-spanish occupation meron ng corruption sa pinas
2. With or without GMA corruption will continue to exist

of course common sense lang na kahit sinong mamamayan ay gusto ng mga highways at iba pang infrastructure projects pero hindi ibig sabihin noon ay payag sila sa mga corruptions na nagiging dahilan ng inflated cost ng mgra projects. Bakit hindi kayo magbasa ng mga investigative reporting mula sa media, hindi naman mag publish sila ng maling balita or reports.



Sure ka na pwedeng asahan ang media? Look at ABS-CBN alone....They're so biased against the arroyo government while they heavily support Abnoynoy. :nuts:

I don't trust our media especially when ABS-CBD did this:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2646/3798239176_dbe3c3ccd2_o.jpg

ESPECIALLY THIS:
http://i50.************/np2tj9.jpg


Enjoy trusting our media! :nuts:

Actually TheAvenger hindi sa pera ni gloria nag papasalamat yung tao or yung nakalagay sa banner. Iyobg pasalamat ay sa effort ni glorai na alalahanin ang madlang bayan kahit na karampot na foor bridge. You got the point.

If about coruption will discuss that in the economy thread. I think meron doon about coruption.

Pero bilib ako sa SCTEX kasi pang world class. At saka record breaking pinakamahaba na express way sa pinas. Dapat ito ang maging start ng chalenge sa pinas na gumawa pa ng mas mahaba expressway sa boung pinas.

Alam mo ang coruption ay hindi nasa tao nasa society yan. paki check mo sarili mo baka mamaya isa ka rin sa nang gagatong sa mga politiko or tao sa serbisyong bayan na mangurap. baka mga binayaran mo mmda para lang hindi ka bigyan ng ticket or baka nag dagdag ka dyan ng kunti halaga para lang mapabilis ang process ng mga papel na nilalalakd mo sa government agency.

Ako inamin ko i fuel one Immigration offer sa Intramuros nung nag pa extend ako ng stay ko sa pinas. sabi kasi sa akin sir gusto nyo 15 min. process sabi ok. sabi nya dagdag po kayo ng 300 pesos.

Sorry OT na ako.

Hindi na tayo matatapos sa topic na ito. Mabuti pa ay mag - agree tayo to disagree about pasasalamat kay PGMA.

By the way, pupunta sa Clark ang idol nyo.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/jaime_makabayan/DSC03558-clarkeducationcity.jpg (http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/jaime_makabayan/?action=view&current=DSC03558-clarkeducationcity.jpg)


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/jaime_makabayan/DSC03589-aseanfestivalofarts1.jpg (http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/jaime_makabayan/?action=view&current=DSC03589-aseanfestivalofarts1.jpg)


Pls see other posting at :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=53999065#post53999065

^^ Corruption in the Philippines can never be totally eliminated. SOP na yan kahit sa ibang bansa meh bukol. Sa Pinas kz, mashado mataas ng hinihinging bukol na mga officials, lagpas pa sa "acceptable" na 10%. Sino ba ayaw ng corruption diba. Lahat naman tayo yanang gusto.

FYI, hindi po ako contractor dealing with the government.

yan ang hirap sa mga taong ganito kaya walang asenso ang pilipinas e. Pag walang naipagawang highway o infrastructure, ang sasabihin kase kinukurakot ang buwis, pag meron naman sasabihin malaki na naman ang nakurakot dyan dahil sa dami ng patong

-- agree, mentalidad nga naman ng mga tao oh. eh ano ba ang mas gusto nila? may naipagawa o wala?

The Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway or SCTEx Project was initiated under the administration of former President Joseph Estrada with an original project cost of P15.73 billion. Construction was started in 2005 under the government of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo. It is the longest tollway in the Philippines that connects Subic, Clark and Tarlac. During the year 2007 the project was delayed but before 2008, construction resumed. It was completed with a project cost of P32 billion.

-- kuya, hindi mo ba alam na everyday eh nag iiba iba ang mga presyo ng mga gastusin? gastusin sa mga materyales, sa mga makinarya, sa mga gagamitin nga in a whole. Ofcourse, 2005 ganyan ang kanilang assessments dyan. pero natapos nga ito ng late 2008, sa palagay mo ba, STABLE or FIX rate lang ang mga gastusin ng mga materyales na ginamit dito? Sino ba namang kumpanyang naka tie up dito na ikokontrata eh FIX RATES? Hindi mo yata alam yon. Minsan tingnan mo ang mga factors kung bakit lumulubo ang mga gastos.

The Avenger, so di mo tanggap ang pasasalamat para kay PGMA?

Hindi ka pa rin ba magpapasalamat at matatapos na kanyang termino?

Hindi ko lang maintindihan sayo. Ayaw mo kay PGMA, right? So gusto mo pala si FPJ.

Sana may ma-imagine man lang ako kung ano magagawa non.

Eto lang ha. Lahat ng mga pulitiko, siyempre kasama na dyan si PGMA, ay mga “public servants” na dapat pagsilbihan ang ating bayan. Binigyan natin sila ng trabaho/posisyon sa gobyerno na resulta ng ating mga boto. Gawin dapat nila ang kanilang mga tungkulin bilang mga alipin o “servants” ng taumbayan.

Sasabihin ko na lang sa aking sarili na kapag may nakita akong magandang ginawa si PGMA, e sasabihin ko na lang, “Good job, Madam President” at hindi na kailangan pang maglagay ng “Salamat”.:)

Well, wala namang masama sa pagbibigay ng pagpapasalamat. Sa akin lang ha, paninindigan ko talaga na hindi ko pasasalamatan si PGMA kahit ano pa man. Nasa iyo naman yan kung magpapasalamat ka ba o hindi. Iba-iba kasi ang pag-unawa ng bawat tao. (Halimbawa: Maganda ba si Pokwang? Siyempre, may magsasabi na maganda siya at mayroon din naman na hindi. Iba-iba talaga ang pagiisip ng mga tao.):)

May gustong magpasalamat pero mayroon din naman na ayaw. Ang tanging uukit sa aking kaisipan tungkol sa ating mahal na pangulo ay ang pagpapalago niya ng ating ekonomiya na hindi naman ramdam ang epekto nito sa mas nakararaming mga Pilipino. Napakalungkot talagang isipin ang ganoong bagay.:ohno:

wag ka ngang magsalita ng ganyan at baka magsisi ka pag si noynoy ang nanalo at pinahinto lahat ng infrastructure.

Hindi naman tungkol kay Noynoy ang post na iyon ah. Tungkol iyon kay PGMA.

Kung yan ang pangamba mo, e di ipagdasal mo na sana huwag manalo si Noynoy.

Ilagay natin sa simple explanation:

Ikaw ay isang magulang, humingi ng piso ang iyong anak at bumili cia ng tinapay. Nung nakabili na yung anak ng tinapay binigyan ka nya ng isang pisngit tapos sabi mo sa anak mo salamat anak.

nakita mo na ba ang point kung bakit nag papasalamat ang mga tao.

Kung ikaw kaya maging presidenti ng pinas tapos gawin kang alipin ng pinoy at yurakan ang iyong dangal, meron ka pa bang gana na mag trabaho bilang isang presidenti?

Itong example mo na magulang-anak ay talagang nagpapakita ng pagpapasalamat. Hindi naman kasi pinagsilbihan ng anak ang kanyang magulang, bagkus ay nagbigayan (pera galing sa magulang at tinapay mula sa anak) lamang ang dalawa. Pero yun nga, walang ginawang pagsisilbi ang anak para sa kanyang magulang.:)

Iba naman ang kaso kay PGMA. Isa siyang “public servant” na dapat pagsilbihan ang taumbayan na walang hinihintay na tugon na “Salamat”. Para sa akin, “Good job” na lang ang sasabihin ko bilang pag-appreciate ko sa kanyang ginawa. Ngayon, kung gusto nyong magpasalamat kay PGMA, e di magpasalamat kayo. Pero sa akin, never! (Iba-iba talaga ang pag-unawa ng mga tao.)

Kaya niyuyurakan ng mga tao ang dangal/dignidad ng isang pangulo ay dahil sa tingin nila ay hindi ginagawa nang tama ang kanyang mga tungkulin sa bayan at mayroon ding ginagawang kabulastugan ito na makagagalit sa mga tao. Sayang lang ang naging mga boto nila at yung pagtitiwala na binigay nila sa pangulo.

Kung ganoon ang problema ng pangulo, dapat tingnan niya kung may pagkakamali ba siya at mga kakulangan. Kung mayroon nga, dapat mas ganahan o pag-ibayuhin pa niya ang kanyang trabaho para sa ganoon ay makabawi siya sa mga taumbayan at muling magsilbi nang tapat.

Hindi ko maintindihan yung argument na "buwis natin ang ginagamit kaya dapat hindi tayo magpasalamat". It's true, pera natin ang ginamit. Pero project yan ng kung sino mang pangulo o opisyal o gobyerno na nakaupo. Kaya nga may gobyerno para mag-implement ng kung ano mang project na magpapagaan sa buhay ng mga tao. Kung walang pangulo na gagawa ng mga projects na yan, sino ang inaasahan nyong magpatayo ng mga footbridges at mga kalsada na yan? Tayo? Sige, kung gusto nyo wag na kayong magbayad ng buwis sa gobyerno, ipunin nyo yung buwis nyo tapos pag nakaipon na kayo, magpatayo kayo ng infrastructures at kayo mismo ang gagawa. Para sa ganun, hindi na ninyo pasalamatan si Pangulong Gloria. Pasalamatan nyo sarili nyo.

Ang point mo rito ay kapag wala ang pangulo, hindi magkakaroon ng mga infrastructures kaya dapat ay magpasalamat tayo sa kanya kasi naging posible ang mga ito.

Ngayon, kung hindi dahil sa taumbayan, hindi magiging pangulo si PGMA at wala ring buwis na pagkukuhanan ng sweldo niya. Kaya para sa akin, huwag magpasalamat sa pangulo, bagkus ay sa mga Pilipino na nagbabayad ng buwis at nagluklok sa kanya kaya naging posible ang SCTEX, NLEX, SLEX, Skyway, Northrail, Southrail, LRT, MRT, footbridges, RORO, STAR, TPLEX, Coastal Road, etc.

Maganda kung “Great job, Madam President” na lang ang ibibigay kong papuri.:)

Just accept it. You deserves to be appreciated as well.

Ang magpasalamat ay kailanma'y hindi masama. Huwag ito ipagkait o ipagdamot.

Well, iba-iba naman kasi ang pananaw at pag-unawa ng mga tao. Kung sa ayaw nilang magbigay ng pagpapasalamat, e wala na tayong magagawa roon. Basta kung ano ang pinaniniwalaan ko, yun yung paninindigan ko.:)

P.S. Pwede kang maging abugado/lawyer ICHUO_MX. Maganda ang mga arguments mo.:)

Talagang pwede kang magpasalamat kay gloria arroyo for her undeniable hard work despite the attemps of our politicians with a bad case of crab mentality.

Ang hinde karapat dapat na pasalamatan ay un mga pulpol na mga politicians na halos WALANG ginawa kumpara kay gloria na naglunsad ng massive infrastructure projects.

Parte na talaga ng pulitika ang pagkakaroon ng oposisyon o mga kalaban sa gobyerno. Hindi ko pa rin bibigyan ng “Salamat” si PGMA kahit marami pa siyang kalaban at patuloy sa kanyang trabaho.

Bigyan ko na lang siya ng “Great endeavor, Madam President”.:banana:

^^ Ibig sabihin po ba nito ay di kayo sang ayon sa pagtatayo ng SCTEX (bukol included) ?

Maybe Sir TheAvenger is not against SCTEX. I am also not against it. Sa katunayan, marami siyang mga photo updates about SCTEX and also meaningful insights about it.:)

Gusto lang niyang i-point out na kahit may mga infrastructures na ginawa, still may corruption pa rin na NAKALULUNGKOT:ohno: isipin kahit sabihin natin na malaki ang benefit/pakinabang ng mga ito. Wala akong pagtutol sa mga infrastructure projects ni PGMA. Kailangan ito ng ating bansa.:)

Actually TheAvenger hindi sa pera ni gloria nag papasalamat yung tao or yung nakalagay sa banner. Iyobg pasalamat ay sa effort ni glorai na alalahanin ang madlang bayan kahit na karampot na foor bridge. You got the point.

Para sa akin, dapat “Good job, Madam President” na lang ang inilgay na papuri kay PGMA at huwag nang maglagay pa ng “Salamat”.:cheers:

The Avenger, so di mo tanggap ang pasasalamat para kay PGMA?

Hindi ka pa rin ba magpapasalamat at matatapos na kanyang termino?

Hindi ko lang maintindihan sayo. Ayaw mo kay PGMA, right? So gusto mo pala si FPJ.

Sana may ma-imagine man lang ako kung ano magagawa non.

How can you be sure that I like FPJ ? I voted for Roco that time.

After PGMA became a President and I heard about the Garci Tapes and the charges that she fixed the national election, I rationalize that cheating could be okey and good for the country since if FPJ won that time then it will be another disaster in the making like the Presidencey of Erap. So I rationalize that cheatings could be okey since it will be for the good of the country.

Then afterwards, there is so many unofficial and official reports and news about the so many scandals of corruption in PGMA government like the Fertilizer Scam, NBE-ZTE, mysterious disappearance of critics of PGMA, then I realize that cheatings is another kind of corruption which should not be tolerated even if it is perceived for the good or for higher national interest.

I would like to add that during the early year of PGMA , I supported her to the point of risking my life in EDSA 3, Together with other nationalist I was there in Mendiola on the eve of May Day in year 2001 when ERap rabbles attacked the Palace. I was there as member of civilian contigents who wants to defend PGMA from ERAP hordes. Later together with the Police and some soldiers we retreated to San Beda compound. Our story during EDSA 3 is covered by media and I was there to defend PGMA that time. Later many stories of curruptions happened so like the others who were pro PGMA, we became her rabid critics, as we love the country more than we cared about her, whose government became corrupted more than Erap and Marcos government.

Well, mabuti pa nga sa corruption thread ipagpatuloy ang discussion.
About 2 months na yata akong hindi napapasyal sa DMIA, Anyhow will try next weel. Marami akong photos sa Clark Education City (the former Expo Filipino complex) dahil doon ginanap ang First Asean Festival of Arts. Will try to post those photos tomorrow night dahil still busy this evening and tomorrow I have an important matters to settle in Manila.

http://jibrael.blogspot.com/2009/11/road-trip-from-clark-to-subic-via-sctex.html

http://jibrael.blogspot.com/2008/09/subic-clark-tarlac-expressway-clark-to.html

cool!! i'm looking forward to it... may nagpost ng pics nung T1 at mukhang on pace ang construction; mukhang malapit na rin matapos ung mga boarding bridges...:banana:

Well guys sana coruption na natin ituloy yang bukol at saka mga kung ano ano anomaly sa goverment.

TheAvanger marami ka bang pic ng DMIA post ka naman.

Yung NLEX ba at saka SCTEX hindi pa rin naka connect?

Marami na pala bagong airline na nag servise sa DMIA.

Ilang exit b meron itong SCTEX. Dumaan din ba ito doon sa tunnel going to subic?

Great Job i think is the proper word to tell to the public servant.

Well guys sana coruption na natin ituloy yang bukol at saka mga kung ano ano anomaly sa goverment.

TheAvanger marami ka bang pic ng DMIA post ka naman.

Yung NLEX ba at saka SCTEX hindi pa rin naka connect?

Marami na pala bagong airline na nag servise sa DMIA.

Ilang exit b meron itong SCTEX. Dumaan din ba ito doon sa tunnel going to subic?

Great Job i think is the proper word to tell to the public servant.

Well, mabuti pa nga sa corruption thread ipagpatuloy ang discussion.
About 2 months na yata akong hindi napapasyal sa DMIA, Anyhow will try next weel. Marami akong photos sa Clark Education City (the former Expo Filipino complex) dahil doon ginanap ang First Asean Festival of Arts. Will try to post those photos tomorrow night dahil still busy this evening and tomorrow I have an important matters to settle in Manila.

http://jibrael.blogspot.com/2009/11/road-trip-from-clark-to-subic-via-sctex.html

http://jibrael.blogspot.com/2008/09/subic-clark-tarlac-expressway-clark-to.html

Pls see at the below web link :

SkyscraperCity > Asian Forums > Philippine Forums > Around the Philippines > Transport and Infrastructure
> Clark and Subic Infrastructure and Urban Planning Thread


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...388310&page=45

Si Cory and Noynoy pala ang dahilan kaya lumobo ang construction cost ng SCTEX. Pls read below :


http://jesusabernardo.newsvine.com/_news/2010/03/26/4074909-the-unprincipled-gall-of-noynoy-aquino?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

Yung NLEX ba at saka SCTEX hindi pa rin naka connect?


Connected siya thru a spur road from NLEX to SCTEX clark logistic interchange. Seamless naman.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q33/c2d_mx/NLEX/Fullscreencapture224201095505PM.jpg

The NLEX and SCTEX linkage.



Ilang exit b meron itong SCTEX. Dumaan din ba ito doon sa tunnel going to subic?


11 exits ang SCTEX at yun last exit connects to Subic-Tipo expressway where the tunnel is.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4468907384_746582df2c_o.png

Pinoys/pinays magkaisa tayo para umunlad Pilipinas.

Si Cory and Noynoy pala ang dahilan kaya lumobo ang construction cost ng SCTEX. Pls read below :


http://jesusabernardo.newsvine.com/_news/2010/03/26/4074909-the-unprincipled-gall-of-noynoy-aquino?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

Tsk tsk tsk...:ohno:

Sana hindi mahawaan ng mga genes ni Noynoy si Baby James.:lol:

Any Updates about SCTEX? or pictures? Kasi sa araw araw kong vinivisit dito wala man lang updates... XD:nuts:

^ Will post pics soon. :)

I guess this is better information for Mt. Pinatubo Trek - from : http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/p/m/47cd3e/


Since we travelled with a group, we opted to bring our own vehicles (vans & cars) going to and around Capas. We felt it was the best option in order to effectively control our time and movements.

Route: From Manila, we took the North Luzon Expressway and exited at Sta. Ines toll gate. From there, we drove to MacArthur Hwy onwards to Bamban and Capas, Tarlac. Upon seeing the public market in Capas, we took a left turn to Brgy. Sto. Rosario and drove ahead past the Capas Nat'l Shrine and Camp O' Donnell, until we reached Brgy. Sta. Juliana, known to all as the gateway to the crater lake of Mt. Pinatubo. We left our vehicles at the Parking lot infront of PDC Spa Town and transferred to a x4 jeep.

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From : http://www.lakwatsero.com/destinations/mt-pinatubo/

How to Get There

The most common and recommended jump off point is via Sta. Juliana, Capas, Tarlac trail. Going there via public transport, ride a bus going to Pangasinan, Baguio or Ilocos Provinces (Victory Liner, Partas, Fariñas Transit, Five Star Bus) or catch a direct to Tarlac bus and drop off at Capas Public Market. Fare is more or less P200.00 and travel time is around 3 hours. Philippine Rabbit (Contact No: 734-9836) has direct trips to Tarlac every hour daily.

From the market, catch a jeepney or trike to fetch you to Pinatubo Spa Town in Sta. Juliana where the Tourism Office and the base camp of Capas Pinatubo Four Wheelers Club Association are situated. You need to pay the Environmental Fee in Tourism Office and rent a 4×4 here, they can assign one for you or you may contact any 4×4 driver you know in advance.

From here the crater is just an hour 4×4 ride via Skyway and a 30 – 40 minutes trek.

Where to Stay

Trekking to Mt. Pinatubo’s crater can be done in a day, so if you are on a budget, you can save expenses for accommodation if you choose to head back home after the trek. Alternatively, you can set up a camp in the assigned camping site in the area. There are restrooms, nipa hut and source of fresh water near the crater.

http://www.lakwatsero.com/destinations/mt-pinatubo/

Wow,your info is so detailed!It's meaningful to us who have lots of travelling plans

SCTEx pics taken April 27, 2010 Tarlac - NLEx segment

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/8192/dsc02932.jpg
^^ To be connected to the TPLUEx in 2013 (Hopefully)

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/967/dsc02933v.jpg
^^ Tarlac Toll Plaza

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^^ Pagkalagpas ng Luisita

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http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6015/dsc03189m.jpg

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2391/dsc03190c.jpg

Photos of SCTEX - Mabalacat to Tarlac City segment as of 8th May 2010

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae105/kerenskyalex/DSC04688.jpg
Mabalacat Interchange


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You can view other photos of SCTEX in the below blog :

http://jibraelangel2blog.blogspot.com/2010/05/subic-clark-tarlac-expressway-mabalacat.html

8th May 2010

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http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae105/kerenskyalex/DSC04835.jpg


You can view other photos of Hacienda Luisita in the below blog :

http://jibraelangel2blog.blogspot.com/2010/05/road-trip-inside-hacienda-luisita.html

^^Nice pics of SCTEX!:cheers:

Napakalawak pa ng Hacienda Luisita. Sigurado na todo-tuwa ang mga Cojuangco nung nanalo si Noynoy Abnoy Panot Aquino.

These pics looks soooooo good right now, it reminds me of SLEX back in the days when it was newer, no build up on it's side, it looks so open. I'm afraid this would end in the same faith as the Philippines is overly popullated already.

^^ Really? slex used to look like this? :nuts:
I guess we better start expanding SCTEX to 6 lanes in 3 years!

does anyone knows how to post some photos for updates here?

does anyone knows how to post some photos for updates here?

First : you must open an account with a Photo server like Photobucket.
http://www.photobucket.com

Second: convert your photos to 800 x 600 megapixels using the Microsoft
Photo Manager.

Third : Upload your photos to your Photobucket account.

Fourth : then copy the IMG code to your posting here in SSC.

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae105/kerenskyalex/example1.jpg


Fifth : Here in SSC page, click Post Reply........and in the new window...... paste the IMG Code.

First : you must open an account with a Photo server like Photobucket.
http://www.photobucket.com

Second: convert your photos to 800 x 600 megapixels using the Microsoft
Photo Manager.

Third : Upload your photos to your Photobucket account.

Fourth : then copy the IMG code to your posting here in SSC.

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae105/kerenskyalex/example1.jpg


Fifth : Here in SSC page, click Post Reply........and in the new window...... paste the IMG Code.

thanks THEAVENGER and God Bless! :)

FVR’s plan, not Erap’s
We refer to the column of Belinda Olivares-Cunanan in the April 22, 2010 issue of the Inquirer, particularly to her reference to “the Subic-Clark-Tarlac-Expressway (SCTEX) conceived during the term of President Joseph Estrada, implemented by President Fidel V. Ramos and finished by President Macapagal-Arroyo.”

Looking at the time and logical sequence, it is obvious that there is an oversight or typo error, as FVR could not have implemented what Mr. Estrada (whose term came later) might have conceived. Moreover, aside from “farm-to-market roads” which the latter repeatedly promised during his campaign, we are not aware of any major road project conceived during his short-lived administration.

In any case, the Subic-Clark expressway was part of a major road network starting with the Tipo tunnel between Olongapo City and Dinalupihan, Bataan, across Central Luzon, that was planned during the Ramos administration for efficient, economical and convenient movement of people, services and goods in the area.

—NICK LAGUSTAN,
spokesman,
Office of Fidel V. Ramos,
26/F Exportbank Plaza cor.
Gil Puyat and Chino Roces Avenues,
Makati Cityhttp://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/letterstotheeditor/view/20100518-270627/FVRs-plan-not-Eraps

The Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEx) is a 94-kilometer four-lane expressway north of Manila, in the Philippines. Its southern terminus is at the Subic Bay Freeport Zone in Zambales, it passes through the interchange with the North Luzon Expressway near the Clark Special Economic Zone in Angeles City, and its northern terminus is at the Central Techno Park in Tarlac City, Tarlac.

Construction on the expressway began in April 2005, and opened to the public three years later.To date, it is the Philippines' longest toll expressway.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/SCTEx_Logo.png

map of sctex:
http://www.oceanviewbeach.com/graphics/SCTEx-Map-2008.jpg

^^Binitin pa ang NLEX :lol:

ano po mgnda sctex or nlex? at bkt?

ano po mgnda sctex or nlex? at bkt?

For me, SCTEX syempre planado at maayos.
Ang NLEX kasi is Rehabilitated kaya gumanda, may part na mga exits nila na ginawan na talaga lang ng paraan para umayos at maging safe.

^^ For me yun SCTEX pag daytime driving maganda at breath taking yun view. Ang hassle lang sa gabi madilim at walang gas station sa loob ng hiway. Yun NLEX ok sa araw at sa gabi at mas feeling safe kapag gabi than SCTEX.

pag ba sinabing sctex, kasama ung view?

Metropac confident it’ll bag SCTex management deal (http://businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25633:metropac-confident-itll-bag-sctex-management-deal&catid=24:companies&Itemid=59)

Written by Miguel R. Camus / Reporter
Tuesday, 25 May 2010 20:53

METRO Pacific Tollways Corp., the listed toll road arm of Metro Pacific Investments Corp., expects to be awarded “soon” the coveted contract to manage and operate the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEx), a top official said on Tuesday.

The development comes as Metro Pacific Tollways irons out details with financial adviser  Evercore Wealth Management to help it raise between $200 million and $300 million this year to fund its various road projects.

Ramoncito Fernandez, Metro Pacific Tollways president, said the company is still mulling over a follow-on share sale, a private placement, debt financing and inviting overseas investors.

Projects include a proposed P17-billion connector road that will link the South Luzon Expressway with the North Luzon Expressway (Nlex), which the company operates.  

“[Financing plans] should be [concluded] in the next three months, maximum,” Fernandez told reporters at the sidelines of Manila Electric Co.’s stockholders’ meeting on Tuesday.

The state-run Bases Conversion and Development Authority (BCDA) earlier cleared the proposal of Metro Pacific Tollways to operate and maintain SCTEx for 33.5 years. The proposal  was submitted through Manila North Tollways Corp. (MNTC) in January.

“It will be soon. We are just waiting [for clearance from the Department of Justice],”  Fernandez said.

The 94-kilometer SCTEx is said to be the country’s longest highway, providing a direct link from Subic Bay Free Port Zone to the Clark Free Port Zone and Tarlac City.

No details were available on the contents of the approved MNTC bid, though the firm earlier said that the original financial requirements of BCDA were too high.

MNTC entered into negotiations with BCDA in February after being declared the only “eligible” entity after passing the technical requirements of the bid, despite falling short in its financial proposal.

MNTC bid against Northlink Toll Management Inc., a joint venture between conglomerate San Miguel Corp. and Star Tollway Corp., operator of the Southern Tagalog Arterial Road.

Northlink was ultimately declared ineligible because of a “fatal flaw” in its technical proposal, the BCDA said earlier.

Tollways Management Corp., which is 46-percent owned by Metro Pacific Tollways, has an interim agreement to operate and maintain SCTEx. MNTC holds the concession to operate and maintain Nlex.

Expressway drives Subic-Clark-Tarlac growth
May 30, 2010, 10:37am - Manila Bulletin

The full operation of the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway has been cited as one of the major factors that have driven investments into the country’s premier freeports Clark Freeport Zone and Subic Bay Freeport Zone, a special report said.

The 93.77 kilometer SCTEX was cited as a legacy of the administration of President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.

Since its full operations in 2008, the 93.77-km expressway was cited as the “key to the evolution of the mega logistics hub within the parts of the Subic-Clark corridor,” a special report on the Subic Freeport said.

Edgardo Pamintuan former chairman of the Subic-Clark Alliance for Development (SCAD) earlier said that the Subic-Clark corridor has been expanded with the extension of the expressway to Tarlac.

“One of the features of the SCAD corridor framework is the production-oriented logistics corridor with three equidistant hubs—Subic, with its sea port as the sea hub, DMIA as the air hub, and Tarlac as the land hub,” Pamintuan said.

The same report said that Subic-Clark-Tarlac makes Asia’s largest logistics hub and this has been made possible by the construction and completion of SCTEX. At least 150,000 jobs have been created by businesses along the Subic-Clark corridor alone.

Subic Bay had been earlier transformed as a bustling seaport that has drawn investments from global players which wanted to cash in on the highly developed cargo handling and seaport management capabilities and facilities of the former Naval base of the United States.

Clark has now become a magnet for investments in light industries, taking advantage of the presence of the entire expanse of airport facilities in this former US military base.

Tarlac, with its vast agricultural and industrial areas, completes the “troika” of major development forces in Central Luzon.

All three hubs require a road infrastructure that is ideal for cargo movement from Subic Bay and Clark to many destinations, and that is where SCTEX “fits into the picture–to expand and enhance the cargo reach our clients on time,” said one locator.

Overall, SCTEX has positive impact on the economic growth of the entire Central Luzon region, which the National Economic Development Authority (NEDA) said is third highest in regional gross domestic product, next to the National Capital Region and Calabarzon.

Central Luzon contributes 40% to the country’s Services sector, 35% to the agricultural sector, and 24.5% to agricultural output.

Subic Bay Freeport, which boasts of two container terminals with a combined capacity of 600,000 TEUs, is expected to make full use of the modern SCTEX. Subic Bay Freeport has been positioned as “the maritime gateway for Luzon.

Clark Freeport is home to the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) and its burgeoning businesses in business process outsourcing (BPO), health and wellness, logistics and port development, food, agribusiness, tourist destination and facilities development and ancillary services and products to locators within the industrial estates.

MetroPac bags SCTEx contract
BusinessWorld Online - June 9, 2010

A TOLLWAY firm under Metro Pacific Investments Corp. has bagged the P64-billion contract to operate the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEx) -- the 94-kilometer tollway that links Central Luzon’s three major economic zones.

"Under the terms of the contract which was awarded June 9, [the Bases Conversion and Development Authority] shall lease to [Manila North Tollways Corp.] the SCTEX and assign to it the concession to manage, operate and maintain the tollway for a period of 25 years, renewable for another 8 years," the government agency mandated to develop former military bases said in a statement.

Under the deal, the Bases Conversion and Development Authority will assign to Manila North Tollways toll operations rights, "including the right to collect toll revenues."

Manila North Tollways will pay a "semi-annual lease/concession fee" equivalent to the annual amortization for the Japanese government loan used by the government to build the SCTEx.

The firm, which built the North Luzon Expressway that is connected to SCTEx, was declared the lone eligible bidder for the contract early this year but its financial proposal was deemed inadequate. The government later entered into negotiations with Manila North Tollways under bidding rules, to improve the financial proposal.

almost green na ulit ang SCTEX. Salamat sa ulan :banana:

MetroPac bags SCTEx contract
BusinessWorld Online - June 9, 2010

Good news.

Sana huwag payagan ng MPIC magkaron ng billboards along SCTEx.

No billboards please

Now that MNTC has the concession to operate, manage, and maintain the SCTEX; will TMC continue operating it?

Sana maglagay sila ng mga gas stations along SCTEx :banana: :banana:

Now that MNTC has the concession to operate, manage, and maintain the SCTEX; will TMC continue operating it?

TMC is the toll operator and is owned by MNTC. kaya TMC parin ang operator.
Same as SLTC and MATES sa SLEX

With this sana maging unified na ang ticketing ng NLEx and SCTEx para iwas queue sa toll booths. Ang hassle kasi five times ka pipila from Manila to Subic...

MNTC is still planning what is the best option to integrate SCTEX and NLEX.
I'm sure there will be removal and installation of new tollbooths.
Plus the modifications in the ticketing system.

^^ Maybe they are going to put tollbooths like in NLEx. :cheers:

Wala lang...Google Earth Pro image of SCTEx Mabalacat Interchange

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7699/sctex.jpg

updated naba ang google earth pro..kasi dati puro luma lang ang image nakukuha

^^ i can also see this image in the Free Version of Google Earth.

SCTEX upgrades safety measures for night driving (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=584895&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
(The Philippine Star) Updated June 17, 2010 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - As the number of vehicles using the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEX) continues to increase steadily, the Bases Conversion and Development Authority (BCDA) — the tollway’s owner and builder, is stepping up its campaign to keep the SCTEX safe, particularly for motorists driving at night.

“Based on statistics from here and overseas, more vehicle accidents occur during the night time,” said Robert Gervacio, SCTEX program manager. “We are committed to make sure that the SCTEX has the necessary features to ensure safety while traveling at night, especially now when more and more people are using the tollway.”

But, motorists must also do their part – by strictly observing speed limits and by driving defensively all the time,” Gervacio pointed out.

In conformity with global standards, lamp posts at the SCTEX are placed 500 to 800 meters before and after each interchange to illuminate entrance ramps, exit ramps, toll plazas and all major bridges (400 meters or longer).

“Thus, motorists driving at night are advised that when they approach lighted lamp posts, they should be aware that they are nearing an interchange or entering a major bridge way,” said Gervacio.

The other SCTEX night safety features include ample reflectorized traffic cones and reflectorized road signs. One unique night safety feature is the retroreflective raised pavement markers (RPMs). RPMs are durable, highly reflective markers used for longitudinal lines that serve as a guide when driving. The RPMs or “cat’s eyes” are the primary means to improve wet-night visibility. “Through all these safety features and equipment, motorists will be able to avoid hazards when driving at night,” Gervacio said.

Motorists, he noted, should also remember that, at night, 20/20 vision is reduced to about 20/50, so they must drive at a speed that permits them to stop within their range of vision. “As a rule, the speed limit that is reasonable for daytime is too fast at night,” he continued. “Motorists must observe night driving safety as soon as the sun goes down.”

For the safety and convenience of motorists, security teams are strategically deployed along the tollway to ensure that help is just 20 minutes away at any point along the SCTEX. Motorists needing roadside assistance can call the following SCTEX hotlines (0920) 96-SCTEX (72839), (045) 865-2030, (02) 362-9997 and (02) 362-2246.

The handbook also urges motorists to be extra cautious when driving at twilight. “Twilight,” it says, “is one of the most difficult times to drive because your eyes are constantly changing to adapt to the growing darkness. Keep your headlights on. This may not help you to see but you can be seen by other drivers, thereby decreasing the likelihood of an accident.”

Linking the three major economic zones of Central Luzon – the Subic Bay Freeport Zone, the Clark Freeport Zone and the Central Techno Park in Tarlac – the 94-kilometer SCTEX is currently handling an average daily traffic volume of some 30,000 vehicles. With its seamless connection to the North Luzon Expressway (NLEX), it now offers the fastest route from Metro Manila to the provinces of Central and Northern Luzon.

“Travel time between Manila and Tarlac City, for example, just takes an hour and 25 minutes through the SCTEX and NLEX,” said Gervacio. “And a growing number of motorists are discovering and taking advantage of this fact.”

During this year’s Holy Week, traffic volume on the SCTEX went up sharply, posting a new record high of nearly 40,000 vehicles on Easter Sunday, 15 percent higher than the total registered on Easter 2009. With the opening on classes in June, traffic volume is expected to surge anew.

BCDA, MNTC set to sign contract for SCTEX management
By Dino Balabo (The Philippine Star) Updated June 20, 2010 12:00 AM

MALOLOS CITY , Philippines – The Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) is set to sign a lease/concession agreement with the Manila North Tollways Corp. (MNTC) by September for the operation and management of the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEX).

“We expect to sign the contract on lease and concession with the MNTC by the end of September,” retired Brig. Gen. Robert Gervacio, spokesman of the SCTEX, said in a media briefing.

If the signing pushes through as scheduled, MNTC will operate and manage about 200 kilometers of toll way beginning from the 89-kilometer North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) in Balintawak, Quezon City to Sta. Ines in Tarlac; and the 94-kilometer SCTEX from Subic Bay Freeport to Tarlac Techno Park in Hacienda Luisita.

A member of the Metro Pacific Group of Companies headed by businessman Manuel V. Pangilinan, MNTC built and currently operates the NLEX to which the SCTEX is now seamlessly connected.

The SCTEX, on the other hand, is a 94-kilometer tollway that interlinks Central Luzon’s three major economic zones – the Clark Freeport Zone, Subic Bay Freeport Zone, and the Central Techno Park in Tarlac.

Built at a cost of P34.106-billion, SCTEX was funded by the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) and the National Government which contributed a subsidy amounting to P3.949 billion.

Bidding for the SCTEX started as early as October last year, but failed by February this year when the BCDA declared MNTC’s financial proposal as “non-complying.”

This was followed by a negotiated bid wherein the MNTC stood as the lone eligible bidder.

Ten days ago, the BCDA awarded the MNTC the right to enter into the contract to lease, manage, operate and maintain the SCTEX.

Under the terms of the contract, BCDA shall lease to MNTC the SCTEX and assign to it the concession to manage, operate and maintain the tollway for a period of 25 years, renewable for another eight years.

BCDA also assigned to MNTC its toll operations rights under the Toll Operation Agreement (TOA) which the BCDA signed with the Toll Regulatory Board (TRB) on June 13, 2007, including the right to collect toll revenues.

In return, MNTC shall pay the BCDA a semi-annual lease/concession fee (SAL-CF) amounting to the peso equivalent of the yen denominated JBIC/JICA debt service requirement for the years 2010 to 2016.

From 2017 to 2043, MNTC will pay, as lease concession fee, 20 percent of the gross revenues from the SCTEX, with the provision that if the lease concession falls shot of the JICA debt service requirement, MNTC will advance the shortfall to BCDA without interest and recover the amount from BCDA’s future 20 percent share kin gross revenues it is exceeds the debt service requirement.

Based on MNTC’s estimates, it will pay a total of P64.4 billion in lease concession fees for the concession period.

This amount is higher than that minimum requirement of P38 billion which the BCDA set under the terms of reference (TOR) for the bidding of the operations and management (O&M) contract for the SCTEX.

According to Gervacio, BCDA and MNTC are now negotiating the details of the draft lease/concession agreement, subject to securing the appropriate approvals of relevant agencies such as the TRB, Office of the Government Corporate Counsel (OGCC), and JICA.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=585830&publicationSubCategoryId=66

Sana maglagay sila ng mga gas stations along SCTEx :banana: :banana:

^^Dapat nga dahil mahaba talaga ng way na ito,hindi na obligado mag full tank ang sasakyan namin papuntang dinalupihan.

With this sana maging unified na ang ticketing ng NLEx and SCTEx para iwas queue sa toll booths. Ang hassle kasi five times ka pipila from Manila to Subic...

Yes, this is a great idea, and probably motorists can use the ECTag without even having to pay in all those 5 toll booths.

OT: I've noticed that because of the long drives going to Subic via the SCTEx, the chances of getting static electricity shock are much greater than other toll roads and booths. I must have experienced this at least 50% on all of my recent trips via SCTEx...actually, it is the toll booth attendant who gets the static electricity shock more often...and in some cases, they already hand out boxes instead of reaching for the ticket and payment with their bare hands.

Yes, this is a great idea, and probably motorists can use the ECTag without even having to pay in all those 5 toll booths.

OT: I've noticed that because of the long drives going to Subic via the SCTEx, the chances of getting static electricity shock are much greater than other toll roads and booths. I must have experienced this at least 50% on all of my recent trips via SCTEx...actually, it is the toll booth attendant who gets the static electricity shock more often...and in some cases, they already hand out boxes instead of reaching for the ticket and payment with their bare hands.

I second the motion. :)

BCDA to resume SCTEX greening
Author: BCDA
Posted: June 23, 2010 | Category: SCTEX

The Bases Conversion and Development Authority (BCDA) is all set to plant starting this month an additional 10,000 seedlings of forest trees along the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEX) “as a gesture of returning to nature what we get from its resources.”

MGen. Trifonio Salazar (Ret), SCTEX program manager of support services group and greening and environmental management, revealed that they have some 20,000 transplant-ready saplings of some 30 species of native trees at the company-run nurseries in Morong, Bataan and Clark, Pampanga.

“The remaining 10,000 of these young trees are scheduled for planting along the SCTEX next year,” Salazar said.

He pointed out that the greening project forms part of the BCDA’s environment-oriented corporate social responsibility program meant to enhance the naturally beautiful landscape along both sides of the 93.7-kilometer toll way.

Salazar also noted that some of the new trees along the SCTEX failed to withstand the protracted dry spell generated by the El Nino weather phenomenon, and have to be replaced.

“Our planting season is from June to December which is normally a wet season and therefore, conducive to the growth of the young plants,” Salazar said.

Under BCDA’s five-year greening program which ends in 2013, a total of 50,000 saplings will take roots on both sides of the SCTEX in support of the government’s overall efforts to help mitigate global warming.

“This undertaking not only enhances the SCTEX’s natural aesthetic value, but more significantly, it helps address the worldwide concern of bringing down greenhouse gas emission which contributes to global warming,” Salazar stressed.

BCDA program manager for support services and SCTEX spokesman BGen. Robert Gervacio (Ret) has also underscored the relevance of the tree-planting program, saying it may set the example for future road projects across the country to emulate.

BCDA officials cited field workers assigned to the greening program for their diligence and initiative in sourcing the seedlings for the nurseries from the rainforests of Bataan and neighboring Zambales province.

Among the tree species are the all-season Kamagong, Tangili, and Mulawin, as well as Bitaog, Cupang, Balacat, Cupang, Bignay, Ilang-ilang, Antipolo, Katmon and Bani.

^^^ nice move hope all the remaining tollways do the same thing

Ok yang indigenous species ang tinatanim na puno along the expressway. It should also serve as natural barriers against fires lit by farmers that usually create situations ripe for accidents.

MNTC to allot P20 billion for SCTEX upkeep (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=600957&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña (The Philippine Star)
Updated August 09, 2010 12:00 AM

Hong Kong — Manila North Tollways Corp. (MNTC), controlled by industrial conglomerate Metro Pacific Investments Corp., expects to plunk in P20 billion over a 25-year period to operate and maintain the 94-kilometer Subic-Clark-Tarlac-Expressway (SCTEX).

Metro Pacific Tollways president Ramoncito Fernandez said MNTC is confident of bagging the multi-billion peso SCTEX, which interlinks Central Luzon’s three major economic zones — the Clark Freeport Zone, the Subic Bay Freeport Zone and the Central Techno Park in Tarlac. “The target effective date of lease/concession agreement is on Oct. 1,” Fernandez said.

MPTC owns 67.1 percent of MNTC, which holds the concession to operate and maintain the NLEX.

The concession agreement will have an initial term of 25 years, renewable for another period not beyond Oct. 31, 2043.

As the BCDA’s partner in running the SCTEX, MNTC will have to pay the government firm, from 2010 to 2016, a semi-annual lease/concession fee of the peso equivalent of BCDA’s yen-denominated loan from the Japan Bank for International Cooperation/Japan International Cooperation Agency.

From 2017-2022, MNTC likewise commits to advance any shortfall in the amount of BCDA’s JICA debt service obligation in relation to the concession fees in the maximum aggregate amount of P1 billion. Such advances are interest-free and payable by BCDA to extent that its future 20-percent share in toll revenues exceed its debt service.

Based on MNTC’s estimates, it will pay BCDA a total of P64.4 billion in lease concession fees for the concession period. This amount is higher than the minimum requirement of P38 billion which BCDA set under the Terms of Reference (TOR) for the bidding of the operation and management (O&M) contract for the SCTEX.

Traffic at SCTEX is currently averaging 22,000 per day. This figure is expected to increase to 30,000 in two years with the SCTEX starting to break even in the third year. The SCTEX currently generates P700 million in revenues.

As the SCTEX concessionaire, the MNTC will be responsible for the management of the toll operations center, toll plazas, and all other related ancillary facilities and equipment and the provision of appropriate resources to run the toll operations; implementation of a traffic safety and security management program for the entire stretch of the tollway on a 24/7 basis.

Meanwhile, Fernandez said MPTC is also looking at opportunities outside Luzon but refused to give specific details.

Aside from this, MPTC is setting its sights on the 42-kilometer Southern Tagalog Arterial Road (STAR), which connects Santo Tomas, Batangas to Batangas City.

MPTC is also eyeing the government’s 20 percent stake in the 37 kilometer SLEX.

MPTC is likewise in talks with Indonesian firm Citra Marga for possible investment in the P10-billion Skyway Stage 2 project, which will extend the existing Skyway from Bicutan to Alabang in Muntinlupa City.

as of July 21, 2010

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^ wow ha.. parang hindi pinas:banana:

Saang State ba ng USA ang Florida..blanca..lol...nice buti may yello paint na yang wall ng tulay..dati ata wala ehh

Good news.

Sana huwag payagan ng MPIC magkaron ng billboards along SCTEx.

No billboards please

Our fear is coming! I have already seen one.
:ohno: :ohno: :ohno::ohno: :ohno:
Try ko kunan ng pic then post it here. Pero sana alisin na.

Our fear is coming! I have already seen one.
:ohno: :ohno: :ohno::ohno: :ohno:
Try ko kunan ng pic then post it here. Pero sana alisin na.

Hula ko lang: SMART billboard?

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BCDA...please lang...:ohno::ohno::ohno:

^^ eh gas station meron?

as far as i know, billboards placed outside of any tollway's ROW limits are under the jurisdiction of DPWH. kung may billboard inside the tollway ROW, this is controlled by the tollway operator/concessionaire. In the case of NLEX, billboards outside the NLEX ROW are owned by private advertisers. Ang mga billboard ads ng NLEX ay yung mga banners na nasa tollplaza, which I think is sponsored by none other than SMART.

^^ eh gas station meron?

^^ Wala AFAIK. So when i go to Anvaya Cove, dapat full-tank.

I also noticed that farmers still do Kaingin near highway, noticed this last time i went to la union first week of august.

VV also guys pls vote on the event we are proposing... (red link)

SCTEX will have gas stations once MNTC takes over its operations and management. :)

^ wow ha.. parang hindi pinas:banana:

Seconded!

The presence of segmented PLASTIC BARRIERS in lieu of poorly painted, craptastic CONCRETE BARRIES, speaks volumes...

So far ito ang pinaka magandang highway sa boung pinas.

Huwag nyo sabihin na parang hindi nasa Pinas.

bakit ibang bansa lang ba ang may kaya na gumawa ng magandang highway. Kaya din natin yan.

Mabuhay si Evil Gloria:banana::banana::banana:

I passed by Pura, Tarlac last Sunday (Sept 12) from Guimba on my way to SM Tarlac and I saw an on-going road construction crossing provincial road. It is located between Pura and Gerona. Malaki at malapad yung construction. I have a strong feeling na ito na yung karugtong ng inumpisahan sa Rosales, Pangasinan papuntang La Paz and will connect to SCTEX.

Here are the pics:
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^^This could be the TPLEX which has already started months ago.

Post away folks! :colgate:


Link to Thread 2 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=125804&page=100) in the Archives. :okay: