Hi Imre

Thanks. Any chance you could post close up pictures of the cladding when u are in the vicinty next time?

yes,just for you :)

17/July/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i29.tinypic.com/imsd8h.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/243qd5d.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/2lcvamr.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/2ql5mwy.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/29z653p.jpg

thanks Imre. Progress on cladding.

Lets hope it finishes.

ANY SIGNIFICANCE IN CHANGE OF ADDRESS?...AT LEAST WHEN THEY LOOK OUT THE OFFICE WINDOW THEY WILL SEE WHAT WE SEE!!
Attention to All: Tiger Properties would like to inform you that our office is been moved into new location (location map attached).

Details of New Address:
Tiger Properties, Commercial Floor

Lake City Tower

Jumeirah Lakes Towers, Dubai


Tel 04 428 1444 & Fax 04 428 1441
800 84437 or 056 604 9409OLOR]

27/July/2009


http://i29.tinypic.com/14dggtg.jpg

Thanks Gerald.d

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hOl2e0230VA/Sm2dya724DI/AAAAAAAAECE/X24K2_Qef14/s800/IMG_3117.JPG

Progress on cladding, but nothing on floor completion

28/July/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i27.tinypic.com/2cmnmmu.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/30ths9c.jpg

Many thans Imre, you're always the TOP!!

Without your contribution, it will be impossible to be informed from the place where I live (Italy).

I'm happy now that the cladding process is going on...any picture of the enteriors? any update from Tiger?

Any news about complete date ? They looks broke before crisis time to me ...

After reading 10 diffrent threads with so called completion dates I came up with a guesstimate of 1.5 to 2 years on top of what the developer initially says and 3-6 months of what they say during the middle of construction stages, take a look for ur self, it seemed pretty accurate. so that potentially puts investors at 2.6 years or maybe more behind completion date in contracts

Any news about complete date ? They looks broke before crisis time to me ...

I just love these people who have no interest in this particular project, but put stupid ramdon statements on here just to wind everyone up. Do you know they are broke, NO. so just comment on what you know as fact, and stop trying to spead unjustified rumours.

When I talked with them, I undestood that they have strong financial basis.
Moreover, if you look for Tiger into a bank database you can see that is a large group with many big companies in the Middle East...

I just love these people who have no interest in this particular project, but put stupid ramdon statements on here just to wind everyone up. Do you know they are broke, NO. so just comment on what you know as fact, and stop trying to spead unjustified rumours.

When I talked with them, I undestood that they have strong financial basis.
Moreover, if you look for Tiger into a bank database you can see that is a large group with many big companies in the Middle East...

I have a full financial report on Tiger, which was only carried out two weeks ago, and considering the economic climate, they appear to be a lot healthier than most of the other construction companies. This is because their company is not just based on construction.
Of course I still worry about the development, but feel a lot safer in Tigers hands than some of the other construction companies. It may be slow, but it is still going forward. As much as I would like it finished now, when you look all around Marina Pinnacle, there are so many projects still to be completed, that maybe it would be better if it was completed late 2010.

With the progress it is making now, it may not even be built by then! Besides, there should be more buildings in the tallest block that are completed by now. Right now, most of the place still looks like a construction site!

I just love these people who have no interest in this particular project, but put stupid ramdon statements on here just to wind everyone up. Do you know they are broke, NO. so just comment on what you know as fact, and stop trying to spead unjustified rumours.

I feel so confident now i really can buy you a comment but i can't buy a trust in this one ... 5 years in construction stage and still nothing what do you think this project will be !

BTW what other projects that tiger involve in ? i mean bigger then this project "NOTHING" if iam not mistaken they finished in two year a two twin towers with same height in Sharjah .:puke:

I have a full financial report on Tiger, which was only carried out two weeks ago, and considering the economic climate, they appear to be a lot healthier than most of the other construction companies. This is because their company is not just based on construction.
Of course I still worry about the development, but feel a lot safer in Tigers hands than some of the other construction companies. It may be slow, but it is still going forward. As much as I would like it finished now, when you look all around Marina Pinnacle, there are so many projects still to be completed, that maybe it would be better if it was completed late 2010.

launched 2004 and still not seen the light and you saying it may be slow !

:lol: Good Bless Tiger then

launched 2004 and still not seen the light and you saying it may be slow !

:lol: Good Bless Tiger then

Have you purchased in Marina Pinnacle, probably not. So why don't you slaughter another project. I read your comments and you never have anything constructive to say. Do you not have anything else to fill your day.

^^ I was so close to purchase in 2006 but thanks god at the end .

Have you purchased in Marina Pinnacle, probably not. So why don't you slaughter another project. I read your comments and you never have anything constructive to say. Do you not have anything else to fill your day.

BTW as you said i don't have any exp in Construction sector as you ... Could you explain to me what they are doing along all this 5-6 years ?

BTW as you said i don't have any exp in Construction sector as you ... Could you explain to me what they are doing along all this 5-6 years ?

The same as all the other construction companies, dramatically slowed down.But at least it is still going ahead, unlike some of the other projects. I know nothing about construction or what companies are financially stable, which is why I don't put unjustified comments on this site, and I would not comment on other projects,as I prefere to read comments by people who do know,like,Imre.

Hi,

Just recieved updates from Tiger with some photos. They have sent it to me in a pdf file, sorry I cannot copy. Any ideas how to transfer a pdf to this site.

Latest report from Tiger ( the first one in months) is in a different format. Could this be the status report that they are obliged to submit to RERA indicating the % complete. Has anyone received a copy of the report to RERA?

07/August/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i31.tinypic.com/vz8yv6.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/29gk9z4.jpg

14/August/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i27.tinypic.com/b4yjkl.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/2sbpj0p.jpg

14/August/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i27.tinypic.com/b4yjkl.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/2sbpj0p.jpg

it looks very massive when in close up but if compared to the building beside it, it looks small...the color of the buildings all look the same.

Hi all,
I'm still waiting for next Tiger's update of construction progress. The last I received was in Spring or before...

Does anyone have some picture of interior fittings??

Thanks a lot...

28/August/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i31.tinypic.com/eje6mv.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/2uji54i.jpg

Another interesting view of the MP

Thanks Imre...

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Hi Guys,

Firstly thanks for all the posts regarding the Marina Pinnacle. We've transferred our investment from a different TIGER project out in Sharjah, now that the law there has changed.

Ironically it seems TIGER are the same with everyone, here's us thinking it was only US !!!:bash:

So we've just signed up for an apartment in the Pinnacle, we've been given a completion date of JUNE2010 however they have already mentioned they are allowed an extra 6 months to complete.....so looks like it's DEC2010.

With over 52 pages of threads it's taking some reading to get the full picture, but I have to admit credit where credit is due. Tiger in Dubai have been ok so far...and... inshallah... everything will be ok.

Does anyone know what the current selling price for the 2 bed apts is. The web is quoting prices from 1.3 m dhs through to 2.6m dhs.....I need to know if I can retire yet !!!

Marina Pinnacle vs Sulafa Tower

June 2007:
Marina Pinnacle:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/164/imresolt247zp8.jpg


Sulafa Tower:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3092/2577221046_336e7a7780_o.jpg

December 2008:

Marina Pinnacle:
http://i35.tinypic.com/20j2t8o.jpg

Sulafa Tower:
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7924/imresolt014kv9.jpg

August 2009:

Marina Pinnacle:
http://i30.tinypic.com/29gk9z4.jpg

Sulafa Tower:
http://i28.tinypic.com/24q0e1s.jpg

Well Done Blizzy :cheers:

04/September/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i26.tinypic.com/14c79g9.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/1222p1w.jpg

WOW the view from the street is amazing!

Some pictures from Tiger Report at July 31st.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2470/marinaside.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/200/marblew.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3249/kitchenk.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8521/bathroomqp.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1433/tiler.jpg

Would a plate even fit in those cupboards?:ohno:

Would a plate even fit in those cupboards?:ohno:

that one is standard, I think these pics were badly resized and this is the reason :)

damn that is one hell of a nice view!

Just imagine when most of the marina and JLT area is done, with landscaping along SZR and greenery along the marina. It will be hard to keep in mind you are living in the desert!

08/September/2009

23 Marina, Marina Pinnacle, Sulafa Towers etc

http://i32.tinypic.com/whnses.jpg

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http://i27.tinypic.com/2ns6q7a.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/35b8m5u.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/2n0vk9w.jpg

Nobody working on the roof!!

Fortunately cladding process still going on...

18/September/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i28.tinypic.com/55mryf.jpg

Thanks for the updated Pics again IMRE. You're our eyes on what's happening out in Sunny DXB.....
:okay:

Can anyone confirm if progress is being made?

If MP progress is gonna be that slow for long, even Marina 101 will surpass MP before it's completed :D, just like Sulafa :P

^^ & That's what i just thought it for secs :D

With all the building works going on around it, it's pointless completing at the moment anyway. Two years is good for me, as long as they don't chase payments.

^^ & That's what i just thought it for secs :D

Constructive comments as usual

Can anyone confirm if progress is being made?

we are missing a huge of reports from pinnacle1 about Constructive comments ...

:ohno:

With all the building works going on around it, it's pointless completing at the moment anyway.

That's a load of bullcrap. How is this pointless? Was opening of the Atlantis or Dubai Mall pointless?:bash:

These guys just suck, simple as that.

That's a load of bullcrap. How is this pointless? Was opening of the Atlantis or Dubai Mall pointless?:bash:

These guys just suck, simple as that.

Well yes, it was pointless. Did Dubai need another massive shopping mall, or a mega expensive hotel, at this point, when Dubai is on it's knees. With people flooding out of the country, because knowone in power will get their fingers out of their arses and sort out the laws properly. Dubai is becoming a massive white elephant and all the good work that was done to promote it self, has now been lost, because knowone trusts it's laws, they are forever changing and there is no stability. You only have to look at the comments on this site to realise so many people are being ripped off and loosing their hard earnt cash to a lawless society.

02/October/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i34.tinypic.com/2eurjnt.jpg

Thanks a lot Imre!!

From this side clading works seem to be at a good point...

Have anybody received last construction update form Tiger (maybe sept 09)?

09/October/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i35.tinypic.com/244pnig.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/23k4shf.jpg

Is it still progressing?

Based on Imres photo's from the 2nd to the 9th it looks like another floor has gone on and a bit more cladding.?

Thanks a lot Imre!!

From this side clading works seem to be at a good point...

Have anybody received last construction update form Tiger (maybe sept 09)?

Hi Icemannapoli, Received an email update on MP today from TIGER.....:banana:

Great pictures I think taken from the roof in each direction. This is the first report of this kind I've ever received having only just swapped from a property in Sharjah, so not sure really if the progress has moved on since the last update....

Travelling out to DXB next week so may be able to assist with some more pictures !!!

14/October/2009

Sulafa Tower and Marina Pinnacle

http://i35.tinypic.com/95nc6g.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/eu0fuo.jpg

From last pictures it is clear that finally they built one more floor...How many floors are needed to top out the MP?

UKDXB we are waiting for your pictures!! Possibly of the interiors!! :-)

16/October/2009

Marina Pinnacle and Sulafa Tower

http://i37.tinypic.com/25jhz0n.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/arq11.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/rc6eck.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2mgk0pe.jpg

Horrible Horrible Horrible !!!! :wallbash:

Hope they build the spire soon ! They are working for almost 4,5 years...

Horrible Horrible Horrible !!!! :wallbash:

Hope they build the spire soon ! They are working for almost 4,5 years...

many people would be happy without spire , just need to finish soon :)

23/October/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i37.tinypic.com/x1m73m.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ldx55s.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/167w2fp.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/w2dmb7.jpg

30/October/2009

Dubai Marina , tallest block

http://i36.tinypic.com/dxzjsw.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2q3y80m.jpg

thanks Imre
Just cladding is going ahead...

http://i34.tinypic.com/332s8jr.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2h33od2.jpg

Hi Icemannapoli, Received an email update on MP today from TIGER.....:banana:

Great pictures I think taken from the roof in each direction. This is the first report of this kind I've ever received having only just swapped from a property in Sharjah, so not sure really if the progress has moved on since the last update....

Travelling out to DXB next week so may be able to assist with some more pictures !!!

Hi Iceman anyone ? --Did you find out any more details on your trip -- is this actually UNDER C now ?

Wondered what the interiors are like also has the develoer got a website ?

It is quite apparent now that for most of Dubai's luxurious apartments (apart from a few exceptions) the term "5-star interior quality" is obviously being compared to the average slum dwellings of Botswana.

I,m off to BOTSWANA om my hols next weeek then - this looks OK:lol:

This is the official Tiger site:

http://www.tigergroup.net

Fact sheet

Legal Name Marina Pinnacle
Location Dubai Marina
City, Country Dubai, U.A.E
Building Type Residential (4 Basements + G + 4 Parking + Health Club + 3 Service Floors + 64 Residential Floors)
Built up Area 1,039,425.00 ft2 (GFA)
Height 280 Meters
No. of Units 764 units ranging from 1,061-2,412.90Sq.Ft
Type of units 1BR, 2BR, 3BR
Key features/amenities State-of-the-art Health Club, Sauna & Steam Bath, Jacuzzi
Temperature Controlled Indoor Swimming Pools
- Kids Indoor Swimming Pool
- Outdoor Swimming Pool
Recreation room for Billiards & Table Tennis
Electronic Games Hall for Children
Various Satellite Channels free of charge for Residents
Communal Barbecue Area
Four Service Floors with Eight High Speed Elevators
Professionally Landscaped and Maintained Surroundings
Nursery, Nanny and Day Care Facilities (Optional)
Daily Housekeeping Services (Optional)
Convenient Covered Parking (Limited number of parking bays available at extra cost, subject to availability)

Security:
24-Hour Maintenance and Facilities Management Services
24-Hour Security Desk for the Building
Convenient Enter Phone System for each Apartment

Ownership Terms Freehold
Financing Not Available
Master Developer Emaar Properties
Developer Tiger International General Contracting Co.
Consultant National Engineering Bureau (NEB)

On www.tigerpropertiesonline.com it also states completion anticipated 2010

I really think that Tiger deleted that line of text in the new website at www.tigergroup.net

So now we don't know what is the expected completion date :lol: (I hope end 2010)

Cladding progress and one more floor!! Go Marina Pinnacle!! go!! :lol:

How many floors still missing?

http://i34.tinypic.com/2li7tau.jpg

^^It's going since 4 1/2 years... :bash: :wallbash:

Slowest tower ever !!!! :ohno: :doh:

so fast progress 101 Marina Tower soon will be 010 tower :D from this pix's angle ...


http://i34.tinypic.com/t8nrqs.jpg

i guess this tower will be fully completed by 2015... after Real Estate market get recovered ! very well reason to handover it :D

Yet another totally pointlees,sarcastic comment as usual

really. It is almost t/o, you dipshit!

The quality of some people on this site has so gone down hill. I purchased in Dubai, to get away from all the English scumbags, but it looks like they are all purchasing in Dubai. Time to bail out I think as Dubai is becoming the new Benidorm.

^^ what about Tiger company can't finish there 1st project by Putting all negativity in Dubai side ! have nice day ...

really. It is almost t/o, you dipshit!

yea get silly flame "blue boy" . topped out my a$$ ! :lol:

yea get silly flame "blue boy" . topped out my a$$ ! :lol:

Come on Bizzzy --chill -- this almost t/o i think ?

Itdoes good on the inside also

^^ what about Tiger company can't finish there 1st project by Putting all negativity in Dubai side ! have nice day ...

Do you actually own anything in Dubai, or do you comment on this site just to p*ss everyone else off.

^^inside and outside ! but should i say about anything that i own .

Hey bizzy time to give these hard heads a miss !
How do they talk to there wifes and families on a sunday Q!
Yyou are more than welcome on the dubai sports city thread!
things are more melow there !
but hey dress to impress !
i.e with photos ???
:lol:

Any new news? I am being chased for payments!!!!!! Did anyone tried to sell and the price per foot?

Do you actually own anything in Dubai, or do you comment on this site just to p*ss everyone else off.

How is owning something in Dubai mandatory? Other comapnies finish projects in Dubai, Tiger is unable to build a simple, not that high by Dubai standards, residental tower. Everyone can see it's a shitty company, and Dubai has nothing to do with it.

Do you realize, that when this was in the piling stage, Burj Dubai was barely above ground? Go on, compare these now. Tiger just sucks, simple as that.

How is owning something in Dubai mandatory? Other comapnies finish projects in Dubai, Tiger is unable to build a simple, not that high by Dubai standards, residental tower. Everyone can see it's a shitty company, and Dubai has nothing to do with it.

Do you realize, that when this was in the piling stage, Burj Dubai was barely above ground? Go on, compare these now. Tiger just sucks, simple as that.


I see you are from England, oh no sorry,Poland. I get mixed up as there are so many Polish in England now, claiming our benefits. Well at least it is being built.

I see you are from England, oh no sorry,Poland. I get mixed up as there are so many Polish in England now, claiming our benefits. Well at least it is being built.

Ah, a really nice post. Bet it took you a great deal of pain to form a reply based on some facts, until you gave up and turned to a more personal approach. Good job, I'm shattered.

Sure, it's getting built. Noone said the opposite. They just added "terribly slowly and by a shitty company".

:cheers:

"terribly slowly and by a shitty company".


I think eveybody agrees on that.

^^ Sure, but Pinnacle1 here seems to think that Dubai is to blame. It's not Dubai's fault, it's Tiger's. Plus he really thinks you should own a unit there to talk about it. That way there would be way less negativity flying here, then there is now. Simple, really.

So every other development has been built on time? No one else on this site is moaning about their developer? Try telling the people who purchased in the Lighthouse, that Tiger are the worse developers. Try thinking before opening your mouth.

Today it is quite possible that Tiger will continue and complete this development and Nakheel and Emaar could be bust by May 10 with everyone who invested in their unfinished ventures losing everything.

I think I was very fortunate to have selected Cayan as a developer, they are one of the very few who can deliver almost ontime everytime.

I think I was very fortunate to have selected Cayan as a developer, they are one of the very few who can deliver almost ontime everytime.

I agree,

I was told many times by investors in the forum only to trust the big 3 Nakheel, Emaar, Dubai Properties. It all looks very embarasing now.

It's great that both Cayan and Select Group are in the same position and completing their projects, all be it with similar time delays.

Select & Cayan (peas in a pod). :kiss:

26/November/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i50.tinypic.com/2mpg01i.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2s9cc4i.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2ptq651.jpg

So every other development has been built on time? No one else on this site is moaning about their developer? Try telling the people who purchased in the Lighthouse, that Tiger are the worse developers. Try thinking before opening your mouth.

A advise you to do the same. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

But OK, if the "look, these guys are even worse" attitude makes you feel better - please have it this way. This one can finish well after the Pentominium for all I care.

I agree,

I was told many times by investors in the forum only to trust the big 3 Nakheel, Emaar, Dubai Properties. It all looks very embarasing now.

It's great that both Cayan and Select Group are in the same position and completing their projects, all be it with similar time delays.

Select & Cayan (peas in a pod). :kiss:

:lol::lol:

Any new news? I am being chased for payments!!!!!! Did anyone tried to sell and the price per foot?

You can buy from devloper at 900 dhs psf although that is for gross sq ftage which can be 20% inflated over net

^^ Sure, but Pinnacle1 here seems to think that Dubai is to blame. It's not Dubai's fault, it's Tiger's. Plus he really thinks you should own a unit there to talk about it. That way there would be way less negativity flying here, then there is now. Simple, really.

So how stupid do you feel now Blizzy.

What is it you said "Dubai is not to blame"

The Dubai government has done a brilliant scam job on the whole world and is even defaulting on it's own people.

I also believe that if you do not have a vested interest in Dubai, why would you want to comment on a construction site, and try and wind everyone up, who have already invested and are worried about their investments.

Some people are so sad.

You told me yea , there are a very very sad and they know who's the cat !

So how stupid do you feel now Blizzy.

What is it you said "Dubai is not to blame"

The Dubai government has done a brilliant scam job on the whole world and is even defaulting on it's own people.

I also believe that if you do not have a vested interest in Dubai, why would you want to comment on a construction site, and try and wind everyone up, who have already invested and are worried about their investments.

Some people are so sad.

You are trying to superscale something, that is something pretty simple. Companies build towers. Some deliver on time, some have slight delays, some are delayed to an extent of a joke. Marina Pinnacle falls in the last category. Simple as that.

You are trying to blame Dubai for something that is developer's fault.

Oh, and newsflash. This is not an investment site. It's for skyscraper enthusiasts. You must have mised that fact, obviously. All enthusiasts can comment on any tower they want.

You told me yea , there are a very very sad and they know who's the cat !


ENGLISH PLEASE

You are trying to superscale something, that is something pretty simple. Companies build towers. Some deliver on time, some have slight delays, some are delayed to an extent of a joke. Marina Pinnacle falls in the last category. Simple as that.

You are trying to blame Dubai for something that is developer's fault.

Oh, and newsflash. This is not an investment site. It's for skyscraper enthusiasts. You must have mised that fact, obviously. All enthusiasts can comment on any tower they want.

Or sh*t stir

This is starting to resemble The Torch thread, lol.

At least there is something going on here, otherwise this would be a dead topic for lack of updates and visible progress.

How about the handover date Englisher , any idea !

^^ How about ... distant future?

http://i46.tinypic.com/23mptgg.jpg

29/November/2009

Dubai Marina tallest block

http://i49.tinypic.com/qxrmkn.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/wlddt.jpg

How about the handover date Englisher , any idea !

I personally don't care if it is 3 months or three years. The prices are so low at the moment, I don't really want handover yet. If it was completed I would have to start paying fees. As long as it gets completed one day. If the money was in an English bank it would be earning nothing, so it might as well stay in a Dubai project. You never know oneday it might be worth something.

I personally don't care if it is 3 months or three years. The prices are so low at the moment, I don't really want handover yet. If it was completed I would have to start paying fees. As long as it gets completed one day. If the money was in an English bank it would be earning nothing, so it might as well stay in a Dubai project. You never know oneday it might be worth something.

I really agree with you!!

http://i49.tinypic.com/2l8hs7l.jpg

This is what we were looking for...a lot of workers on the site!!
Actually, with all troubles for Nakheel and Emaar, this is the most important thing...

Thanks a lot 234sale!!

...And I can count now 19 floors over the last service floor, one more compared last week!

But how many floor still missing????

I visited Dubai in June, since then Tiger have put 4 on and done loads of cladding. This may not be much to Dubai standards, but if it was in England they would still be deciding who was making the tea and who was going out to get the bacon rolls,

The same in Italy!! :lol:

This is what we were looking for...a lot of workers on the site!!
Actually, with all troubles for Nakheel and Emaar, this is the most important thing...

Thanks a lot 234sale!!

They have not enough workers thats why still very slow, just have a look the other towers almost everything overtook the Marina Pinnacle.

Marina 101 and Elite Residences also coming very fast.

In 2006 I tought that this tower will be the first at the tallest block but I was wrong.


But at least they are working this is the good news:)

Wow, this is the most surprising pic ever! There are loads of workers on top of Marina Pinnacle but what have they been doing the last 6 months when not a single floor was added?! :laugh:

http://i49.tinypic.com/2l8hs7l.jpg

Thanks to Charlie
Still many workers today...maybe Tiger decided that it is the right time to complete this infinite project???!!! :bash:
http://i50.tinypic.com/2m4811w.jpg

04/December/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i48.tinypic.com/of7zvb.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/168aadi.jpg

06/12

http://i49.tinypic.com/27yx4qc.jpg

From AltinD 6/12/09

It seems thay are building up other floors...I really don't understand how many floors are still missing...

http://i48.tinypic.com/2motpfn.jpg

Where is that yellow core topped out !?

according to Tiger, they say they are now on the 75 floor, this seems more than the original plan.?

I'm sure that they are building 3-4 floors more on the executive floors compared to the first project...

Looking at the last pic I counted 66 floors including the mechanical floors but not the parking levels of the podium. I don't see how you get 75 unless you add both the above ground and below ground parking levels. I don't think underground levels should be added in to the total count but ground and any additional above ground podium levels are good to add to the count. That would mean the addition of 4 or 5 to make it about 70 floors.

I received the November Update Report from Tiger. It is dated November 30th. Later I will post some pictures of the enteriors (very poor quality as especetd)...

The word on the street is that these guys are broke and their suppliers are being offerred apartments in the building for unpaid dues. Theoretically possible, but practically impossible these days as everyone needs cash. I have heard this several times now and am pretty sure this will affect the handover in a big way. Sorry for the bad news.

I don't want to ear to these stories.... I trust only what I personally see and actually I see that the tower is still going up and the completion is every day nearer.... Let's think POSITIVE!!

Some pictures from the latest Report from Tiger at November 30th

http://i50.tinypic.com/1z3mkox.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/jq5owy.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2d8gap5.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2mr5mo0.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/30ho51x.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/orqxdi.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/jh8mzd.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2utjaxl.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/o06ul0.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/30hqa1k.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/s2wead.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/23rr1fm.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2mocf2h.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/9u3d6h.jpg

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Thanks for the pics Icemannapoli, at least it is still going up, not to spec I agree, but at the moment the way things are I would settle for this. Unfortunatley you are always going to get the doom and gloom mongers on this site. I personally cannot see what is wrong with a bit of trading, as long as I don't get a camel instead of a kitchen.

Tiger have started pressign again for payments. IS anyone still m aking payments to them or are most Investors waiting?

18/December/2009

Marina Pinnacle ,Dubai Marina , tallest block

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http://i47.tinypic.com/2u9o1si.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/v7xge8.jpg

25/December/2009

Marina Pinnacle

http://i45.tinypic.com/344qf83.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/25tdlok.jpg

Tiger have been pressing me to make payments for outstanding instalments. I have previously requested a copy of the progress report on the development which I beleive they are required to submit to RERA but have not been provided with same. I have previosuly paid 70% and have been stalling on the remaining payments for the last two years in view of delays with completion. Anyone else in a similar situation?

Dubai: Tiger Properties on Wednesday announced the timely progression of work on its landmark Marina Pinnacle project.

The tower's framework reached the 75th floor with structural completion of the 74th floor.

http://gulfnews.com/business/general/tiger-properties-project-on-course-in-dubai-1.551321

Visited the site a couple of times in the last week and there was certainly some activity there.

08/January/2010

Marina Pinnacle

http://i46.tinypic.com/v8n98j.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/whiaky.jpg

Has anyone else noticed, that from 4th Dec to 8th Jan another 2 floors have been built. Has Tiger been given permission for more floors?

True, True, pinnacle1....but 'permission' what's that...lol I've seen so many different documents with different planned numbers of floors. Looks like they'll keep us guessing.

Was out there last month and noticed work still going on, hopefully everything is still going to plan, but does anyone have a suggested completion date?

Travelling back to UAE and staying at the Marina so will be taking a look at the progress. Anyone know if it's possible to gain access to the interiors...?

Here's another question for anyone out in UAE. As you look at the front of the Marina Pinnacle site there's a plot to the right of the pinnacle building. Does anyone know what is scheduled to be built along side Marina Pinnacle.

We've purchased a 2 bed apt with views out to SZR and the Golf Course, so I'm interested to know if eventually I'll just be looking into someone else's apartment??!!?

Don't worry... on the right side they should build the Marina Arcade (and the Madain Hotel on the rear). I think it will be as height as the Marina Pinnacle's podium...

The real problem is what they want to build in front of...

Answerring to your first question, I think they built some floor more compared to some rendering found on Internet..

If you look at this picture, Marina Pinnacle has reached the same height of Emirates Crown...

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7459/dubaiselection.jpg

Marina pinnacle is closer to the photographer so looks a little bigger. It looks like it's only just above the roof of emirates crown.

However you're right when you say there are more floors. In fact there are now 5 more floors when compared to the original model

photo by markmywords
http://img210.exs.cx/img210/6783/model38mr.jpg

Don't worry... on the right side they should build the Marina Arcade (and the Madain Hotel on the rear). I think it will be as height as the Marina Pinnacle's podium...

The real problem is what they want to build in front of...

Thanks Ice...my mind is at ease, for the moment anyway...The building in FRONT ?!?! Are there any plans for this yet. I haven't seen anything anywhere about it.

What do you mean "in front of"? In fact it's surrounded on all 4 sides now. Le Reve towards the sea, the torch towards the marina, mag 218 towards szr and marina 101 towards burj dubai. Do you mean the plot between the torch and marina heights? Nothing has been planned there. The marina sky towers were supposed to go in front of the torch but that area was not included. Marina 106 is supposed to be beside mag 218 which might block some views towards szr but that's on hold now.

I meant exactly the Marina Sky Towers... I know that currently nothing is planned, but that plot is too big and nice positioned to be empty for long time!!

29/January/2010

Marina Pinnacle

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http://i48.tinypic.com/2upz49i.jpg

Legal Name Marina Pinnacle
Location Dubai Marina
City, Country Dubai, U.A.E
Building Type Residential (4 Basements + G + 4 Parking + Health Club + 3 Service Floors + 64 Residential Floors)
Height 280 Meters
No. of Units 764 units ranging from 1,061-2,412.90Sq.Ft

I think this is the last floor to top out the MP! Now I can count exactly:

Ground floor
4 Parking floors
1 Health club floor (over the parking ceiling)
3 Service floors
64 Residential floors (10+16+16+22)


WOW :banana:

P.S. Look at the cladding color... I really dislike it!!
The only one advantage is that it will never seem dirty!! :)

Tiger have been pressing me to make payments for outstanding instalments. I have previously requested a copy of the progress report on the development which I beleive they are required to submit to RERA but have not been provided with same. I have previosuly paid 70% and have been stalling on the remaining payments for the last two years in view of delays with completion. Anyone else in a similar situation?

Hi, We have exactly the same problem. Did you in the meanwhile pay, or has something else come up to solve this ? Can we be charged the extra costs because we did stop paying ? Thanks for your help, getting nervous about this...

Legal Name Marina Pinnacle
Location Dubai Marina
City, Country Dubai, U.A.E
Building Type Residential (4 Basements + G + 4 Parking + Health Club + 3 Service Floors + 64 Residential Floors)
Height 280 Meters
No. of Units 764 units ranging from 1,061-2,412.90Sq.Ft

I think this is the last floor to top out the MP! Now I can count exactly:

Ground floor
4 Parking floors
1 Health club floor (over the parking ceiling)
3 Service floors
64 Residential floors (10+16+16+22)


WOW :banana:



Keeping positive is always best eh !

Things are looking up. What's your thoughts on a completion date, ICE....??

Thanks for the up to date and pics again Imre.

You are certainly the man that would know this...Is there a list of cancelled / postponed Dubai building projects. I've tried browsing the net, but can't find anything without looking through loads of news articles....

73 floors and 280 meters?? don't think so... :hm:

From Imre's pictures
http://i47.tinypic.com/2rc52zm.jpg

UKDXB I really don't have any idea about completion date...sometimes Tiger seems to go faster and then slower again!! More info on the next Tiger's Update PDF...

True enough Ice...
We're heading out there tomorrow for a well deserved break. Wouldn't mind trying to get to view the interiors on this one....

Cheers.


From Imre's pictures
http://i47.tinypic.com/2rc52zm.jpg

UKDXB I really don't have any idea about completion date...sometimes Tiger seems to go faster and then slower again!! More info on the next Tiger's Update PDF...

There are some pictures from the inside of the MP.

Overall quality is really bad...

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3812/immagine2y.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/i/immagine2y.jpg/)

....but at least they finished the structure!!

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4597/immaginepzw.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/immaginepzw.jpg/)

Again: Source of the height of 73 floors and 280 meters please...

Stephen.... simply Tiger's website :)

http://www.tigergroup.net/marina-pinnacle.aspx

There are some pictures from the inside of the MP.

Overall quality is really bad...

These pictures look shitty, and I would not judge the quality based solely on them.

Stephen.... simply Tiger's website :)

http://www.tigergroup.net/marina-pinnacle.aspx


thx a lot !! :cheers:

12/February/2010

Marina Pinnacle

http://i45.tinypic.com/ztspcz.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/jr5vg9.jpg

Thanks a lot Imre!!

Very small progress on cladding works...maybe at mechanical floors

From Imre's pictures

Nothing changed... Why???
http://i45.tinypic.com/23to49d.jpg

Thanks Dubai Steve!

What a fantastic place to live...

http://i45.tinypic.com/2vrzzn5.jpg

23/February/2010

View from the Marina Pinnacle

http://i47.tinypic.com/fusv21.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/kao7j9.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/359k1kx.jpg

23/February/2010

View from the Marina Pinnacle

http://i45.tinypic.com/2wq6dsg.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/e2du8.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/xm8tc0.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/dwt8x0.jpg

thanks Imre!!

I see awesome Marina view from MP, like I hoped.

Do you have any picture from interiors? How they are coming up?

I didnt take pics inside , just the view.

Lots of workers was there but I think still need time , minimum a year from now if they are working fast , quality is not bad , I would say its average.Some 1 B/r apartment seems too dark on the lower floors because of the small windows.

If I am right 10 elevators inside which is good.

I think the realistic handover date will be around end 2011 or 2012.

Thanks a lot for your work!
I hope for handover on mid 2011...

Thanks for the photos Imre, I can see the aspect is good for Marina facing apartments towards the left looking outwards.

Do you think you might visit inside again in future, would be good to have some shots of the internal finishes. Tiger posted some but they are not good as your shots.

So 2011 you think. I hope it's earlier. It's been a long slog waiting for this damn thing to finish.

24/February/2010

Marina 101, Marina Pinnacle, Sulafa Tower, MAG 218 etc..

http://i50.tinypic.com/2remszd.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/zno974.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2my23ib.jpg

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http://i48.tinypic.com/1rwvsy.jpg

Thanks for the updated pics Imre. I've just returned back to UK but didn't get chance to go inside.
2011 ..... no chance of Christmas this year then .... lol
Still at least they're still working on it.

Does anyone have any idea of the layout of the leisure floors, ie gym & pools etc. I've tried with Tiger but have got nowhere.

Cheers.

Taken by Amplesou

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6180/img1635r.jpg

26/February/2010

Marina Pinnacle

http://i47.tinypic.com/imq9na.jpg

02/March/2010

Marina 101, Marina Pinnacle , Sulafa Tower

http://i48.tinypic.com/x532c2.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/23tgjrt.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/amwiew.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/1z6qyz6.jpg

04/March/2010

Marina 101,Elite Residences,Sulafa Tower,Marina Pinnacle

http://i50.tinypic.com/2uhnu4o.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2du9kqv.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2ymbp95.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/25ko0hv.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/ogfa14.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2hcnnsg.jpg

From Tiger's February Construction Update

http://i39.tinypic.com/2qvw6mp.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/b4uo2p.jpg

Same pictures I posted months ago, but better quality...

http://i42.tinypic.com/1zejgvq.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2u637r8.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/elcxut.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/33uqxqr.jpg

Reminds me of the 60s

Is this 5 star finishing?

Reminds me of the 60s



the bad ugly side of the sixties.

11/March/2010

Marina Pinnacle , Sulafa Tower

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http://i41.tinypic.com/2ur1bww.jpg

Is this 5 star finishing?

Hi, we originally purchased in Sharjah with Tiger, but were moved to here because of a change in the Sharjah Laws.

The Sondos tower (sharjah) was also supposed to be 5star finishing....Marina Pinnacle in comparison is 7 stars !!!

Not sure whoose version of 5 star we're supposed to use?!?!?

Reminds me of the 60s

at least there is something inside... !

Why they don't build on top?? :wallbash:

Thanks Imre

http://i39.tinypic.com/9fnpck.jpg

I don't know why they are so slow...:ohno:

Welcome, another one:

12/March/2010

Marina Pinnacle

http://i39.tinypic.com/2uy55b7.jpg

18/March/2010

Marina 101, Marina Pinnacle, Sulafa Tower

http://i41.tinypic.com/29gbrdv.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2vmx3q1.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/201g95.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/1yk38k.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/d5kyw.jpg

Thanks to CBP

This shows the color of the cladding...

http://i43.tinypic.com/mncj6.jpg

I will be there for Easter holidays, I will take some pictures of interiors for sure!

That would be great IceMan. We look forward to seeing what you can find out... Have a safe trip.


I will be there for Easter holidays, I will take some pictures of interiors for sure!

Has Tiger been pressing anyone to make payments recently or has any INvestor succeeded in getting any proposals from them relating to compensation for completion delays which are now running into 4 years

Hi any Pinnacle purchasers. Although I have paid 90% so far and up to date, Tiger are saying they have not recieved one of the payments.

They are now chasing this payment and although 3 years behind with completion, want to revert to the terms of the contract and want to impose fines for late payers on a daily rate.

They have a mickey mouse piece of paper from RERA to say that they are 90% complete. If the photos on here are anything to go by, I don't think so.

There is a group of us (44) so far, that keep in touch, who are going to take
legal advise and try to get a full refund as per Tigers own contract.

If anyone wants to join this group please PM me. There is a good chance Tiger are going to try and snatch back everyones properties, so we might as well go down fighting and try and bankrupt them.

There is a group of us (44) so far, that keep in touch, who are going to take
legal advise and try to get a full refund as per Tigers own contract.

If anyone wants to join this group please PM me. There is a good chance Tiger are going to try and snatch back everyones properties, so we might as well go down fighting and try and bankrupt them.

What do you mean by snatch back everyones properties?

I'm not sure what you mean about 'snatch back the property'

Have you got your registration papers from the RERA? I was under the impression that each contract then allows the contract holder to obtain the registration papers for the property.

Surely this means that Tiger can't take anything back in it's entirity.

Tiger don't seem to follow contractual agreements, this is something we experienced with a property in Sharjah that was over 24 months late...but not 'late' according to Tiger!

So I'm not sure about the idea of getting a full refund! I'd be happy to just not be charged late penalties and not have to pay any more until actual completion.



Hi any Pinnacle purchasers. Although I have paid 90% so far and up to date, Tiger are saying they have not recieved one of the payments.

They are now chasing this payment and although 3 years behind with completion, want to revert to the terms of the contract and want to impose fines for late payers on a daily rate.

They have a mickey mouse piece of paper from RERA to say that they are 90% complete. If the photos on here are anything to go by, I don't think so.

There is a group of us (44) so far, that keep in touch, who are going to take
legal advise and try to get a full refund as per Tigers own contract.

If anyone wants to join this group please PM me. There is a good chance Tiger are going to try and snatch back everyones properties, so we might as well go down fighting and try and bankrupt them.

I'm not sure what you mean about 'snatch back the property'

Have you got your registration papers from the RERA? I was under the impression that each contract then allows the contract holder to obtain the registration papers for the property.

Surely this means that Tiger can't take anything back in it's entirity.

Tiger don't seem to follow contractual agreements, this is something we experienced with a property in Sharjah that was over 24 months late...but not 'late' according to Tiger!

So I'm not sure about the idea of getting a full refund! I'd be happy to just not be charged late penalties and not have to pay any more until actual completion.

Have you read your contract. Penalties 1% per month and 500 dhs per day. And you don't mind paying penalties.

16/April/2010

Marina Pinnacle

http://i43.tinypic.com/2vmfz7o.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/11akavc.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/1692jjd.jpg

Like I see also in Imre's pictures there is very slow progress on the structure works.

Fortunately when I was there two weeks ago and looked at the interiors, they are working hard and it was plenty of furniture stock!

Ground floor: the entrance is nice, marble at flooring and walls, dark wood at the walls of the elevators' lodge (I don't like it).

Parking floors: they are at good stage, parking slots still finished and painted.

Health & SPA floor: a lot to do yet. The impression is that it will be very nice (when finished) and large. There are several internal swimming pools, and three more outside (2 jacuzzi and 1 bigger swimming pool, but slightly smaller than the MAG218 one).

Show floor: I looked at the 12th or 13th floor that is the completed floor. I really don't like finishings and furniture... I will change everything in my flats!! the 2 bathrooms are small and ridiculous...One would have been perfect....The general impression is that quality is poor.

I will post some nice picture later or tomorrow!

Like I see also in Imre's pictures there is very slow progress on the structure works.

Fortunately when I was there two weeks ago and looked at the interiors, they are working hard and it was plenty of furniture stock!

Ground floor: the entrance is nice, marble at flooring and walls, dark wood at the walls of the elevators' lodge (I don't like it).

Parking floors: they are at good stage, parking slots still finished and painted.

Health & SPA floor: a lot to do yet. The impression is that it will be very nice (when finished) and large. There are several internal swimming pools, and three more outside (2 jacuzzi and 1 bigger swimming pool, but slightly smaller than the MAG218 one).



Show floor: I looked at the 12th or 13th floor that is the completed floor. I really don't like finishings and furniture... I will change everything in my flats!! the 2 bathrooms are small and ridiculous...One would have been perfect....The general impression is that quality is poor.

I will post some nice picture later or tomorrow!

We'll be here waiting :)

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Nice. Which floor Iceman?

http://i43.tinypic.com/fokd3k.jpg

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http://i44.tinypic.com/1z3azuq.jpg

23/April/2010

Marina Pinnacle

http://i41.tinypic.com/o0unlv.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/20kf72x.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/30uaagh.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/k4usmu.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/72unid.jpg

37th floor Marina side T11 type apt.

Just compare the second picture of the message 1183 and the first picture of message 1198.
You can clearly notice the amazing progress of the black building close to MP.

^^ We all know Marina 101 is flying :)

I sure hope that once they wash in, Marina Pinnacle is gonna look at least half as nice as MAG218. It looks much worse now.

What is the distance between Marina 101 and Marina Pinnacle? The main towers, I mean?

30/April/2010

Marina Pinnacle

http://i43.tinypic.com/11sko4j.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/16jitsh.jpg

Ok, now I don't get something. The tower should be roughly the same height as Sulafa. It looks much shorter (see Imre's first pic - it looks like it's 30 metres shorter at least). Shouldn't it be almost topped out now, reaching 280 metres?

06/May/2010

Marina Pinnacle

http://i41.tinypic.com/161wzn7.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/359xs1c.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2rh1ai1.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2rw5bpk.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/23gxni1.jpg

07/May/2010

Marina Pinnacle and Sulafa Tower

http://i40.tinypic.com/11hrn0w.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/eq8sg9.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2d2alhc.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/ws1aoh.jpg

Sulafa Tower entrance

http://i43.tinypic.com/vo32oh.jpg

Great shots Imre. Thanks for update.

Just read the news:
http://gulfnews.com/business/property/increased-demand-expected-to-soak-up-realty-over-supply-1.624641

I wonder what will be the rent for the units in Pinnacle? Not very enthusiastic

It really does not matter what the apartments will rent for at the moment, having just come back from seeing the apartments, they won't be ready for another 18 months. Whats the word Im looking for, thats it, sh*tholes.

13/May/2010

Marina Pinnacle

http://i39.tinypic.com/91mpsi.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/xc658l.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/alro5z.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/25ywu1d.jpg

Hi all,

any news about MP completion date?

Imre what's your suggestion?

Yeaa, why has everyone gone all quite now?

There was supposed to have been a Marina Pinnacle "action" group. Not a lot of action though. Tiger are threatening legal possession on properties, and knowone seems to give a s**t. They and many other developers are allowed to do exactly what they want, with no repercussions against them, even the lawyers do not want to take developers to court, as they know the investers do not have a leg to stand on.
I think the govenment and RERA are getting right behind the builders and are trying to mug off the investers so they can keep the money and resell.
I personally would advise any future investers to steer well away from Dubai, as the country is to volatile.
People might hate Britain, but at least we have laws and human rights.

^^ Don't say that pinnacle1 , why people may hate Great Britain in such random way .. give me one reason ?

so please focus in progressing of this project and let handover date delayed n delayed till it reach 2050 without hating any things ... please ! :smug:

Most countries dislike the British. I can only put it down to jealousy, and yet they are all happy to spong off our social system. The trouble with Dubai, is double standards, you cannot show any signs of affection in public, but the developers can lie and cheat and rob their clients, and nothing is done about it.
I have purchased in five different countries and Dubai is the worst. How can someone sign a contract in good faith, only for the government to make it's detail worthless.
If I could get my money back,I would promise never to visit, though alone buy, in Dubai again. Fat chance of that though.
And yes for once I agree with your comment 2050 as it only backs up what I am saying about the sheer greed and incompetance of the developers.
I can see in years to come, when all the developments are completed, the government slapping massive taxes on all properties, and just like the law now, if you don't pay they will repossess your property,sell it,and keep the money.

This is when prime real estate market want to go so far in just 5 years i really never seen real estate market like this they just build for none! we took the highly risk from beginning because we believe on off s**t ! and yes , i agreed with you this is my last investment inside Dubai too .

There was supposed to have been a Marina Pinnacle "action" group. Not a lot of action though. Tiger are threatening legal possession on properties, and knowone seems to give a s**t. They and many other developers are allowed to do exactly what they want, with no repercussions against them, even the lawyers do not want to take developers to court, as they know the investers do not have a leg to stand on.
I think the govenment and RERA are getting right behind the builders and are trying to mug off the investers so they can keep the money and resell.
I personally would advise any future investers to steer well away from Dubai, as the country is to volatile.
People might hate Britain, but at least we have laws and human rights.

I sympathise with your situation, however one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch as MJ once said.

Investors are all victims of their own niavity, they assumed that supertall buildings could be built in 2-3 years and that the government of Dubai would protect everyone. The fact that everyone flocked to Dubai to sign up for just about anything and handing over cash just drew in more unscrupulous developers. So we created the animal, not Dubai. Dubai just wants it finished and finished as soon as possible, so they will back the developers to get everyone to pay up and get it finished. Any development under construction just now has around 25% default rate no matter how respectable and efficient the developer. The majority have not defaulted so Dubai will protect the majority by supporting the developer in repossesing the units of the defaulting parties. Without taking this stance we would be looking at uncompleted buildings for 10-15 more years or as long as the legal process takes. Also, who would want to put their own money into completing a building with units full of litigous defaulting bankrupts?

I sympathise with your situation, however one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch as MJ once said.

Investors are all victims of their own niavity, they assumed that supertall buildings could be built in 2-3 years and that the government of Dubai would protect everyone. The fact that everyone flocked to Dubai to sign up for just about anything and handing over cash just drew in more unscrupulous developers. So we created the animal, not Dubai. Dubai just wants it finished and finished as soon as possible, so they will back the developers to get everyone to pay up and get it finished. Any development under construction just now has around 25% default rate no matter how respectable and efficient the developer. The majority have not defaulted so Dubai will protect the majority by supporting the developer in repossesing the units of the defaulting parties. Without taking this stance we would be looking at uncompleted buildings for 10-15 more years or as long as the legal process takes. Also, who would want to put their own money into completing a building with units full of litigous defaulting bankrupts?

I agree if people owe money they should pay. Does that still give the right for the developer to lie and cheat. I have been hounded by Tiger because they said I had not made a payment, although I was 90% paid. unfortunatly I had changed banks so it took some time to get copies. When I did give them proof, do you think I got an apology. Like hell. And now they are chasing for the full balance of payments on another two apartments that are 70% paid, and just to add insult to injury, they say they are going to charge 500DHS per day late payment charge. What a bunch of lying cheating crooks. They do this because they know they can do whatever they want because there are no property laws in Dubai.

We miss Imre's updates!!

Have been trying to find a lawyer in Dubai to try and take Tiger to court. Have contacted at least 8 over the last two weeks. Not one lawyer is interested. The government have definatly instructed lawyers not to take any actions against developers.

Any new updates pictures?, its been a while.

09/July/2010

Marina Pinnacle

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12/July/2010

Marina Pinnacle

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No way this is 280m.

Tiger are quoting completion 2010. Ye right.
What counts as completion in Dubai?

No way this is 280m.

It is if you include the 4 floors of car parks under ground and the 30m hole under that.

^^ Which is not how we calculate such things :) 250 then?

And what about the spire which isn't there yet?

Dubai Addiction you're right...

moreover, if Sulafa Tower (285mt) is higher and Emirates Crown (296mt) is lower (without the crown) than MP, where is the truth???

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Ye I got this rubbish from Tiger. They say they are 91.2% completed, dont quite know how they can be that accurate. I was there in April, the whole site is a mess the apartments are no where near complete and that was on the 16th floor. Unless they have had 500 workers working 24/7 this figure is total b******s. but it does mean they can drag in the 90% payment. All these so called independant bodies are all funded by the government or developers, so they will put on paper what ever the developers want. Me cynical, I don't know what you mean.

Do any Pinnacle owners know if there is an owners board being set up.

Does everyone have rental gurantee in thier contract after the delivery.? In my Agreement 8% of the contract value is guranteed by MP for the 1st 3 years as rent income.

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Tiger seem to be putting pressure on for delayed payments referencing penalties per contract. HAs anyone been successful in getting Tiger to discuss their proposals (if any) for compensating purchasers for the delay in the completion date which is now running many years behind contracted date. I am continuing to withold further payments and have been for the last two years in an attempt to get Tiger to deal with the proposals for delay. Has anybody got anything agreed?

Hi All,
I know i might still be clutching at straws and hoping that this building WILL be completed, but I don't suppose anyone has a copy of the plans of the recreation floor.

I've asked Tiger for a copy, but not received anything yet....No real surprise there though eh!!!
Cheers.......

Hey Jim,

We have a right to not make further payments, we had that right the first day they defaulted on the contract. The only compensation you can get is through a law suit. Other then that no one else can do anything for you, other then Tiger completing the project (If that ever happens). Suck if you have a bankloan paying interest on money that was suppose to be getting subsidized by a rental income at completion that looks like may go on forever.

Raza

So, Which law firm do you work for then???

So, Which law firm do you work for then???

There are a few people on this site who obviously are working for law firms,trying to generate business for their company by pretending they are having problems with their developer and telling purchasers who have problems with their developers to use their lawyer TLG. Can these fakes please be kicked off the site as they are just parasites.

What laywers have u asked and what law firms have you used? Have you used TLG? Lawyers have told me that I do have a clear case as Tiger is in default. This whole thing has been a headache, glad ive done something about it now as I've heard the law could change soon in favour for the developers in a few months as so many people have filed cases against developers and have recovered there monies. Not good for Dubai if all the investors pull out as these projects will not be completed. Imagine what Dubai would look like then. The lawyer ive used at TLG is Sunil Thacker his number is 0502427334. Found him from here http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=139179
Hes very good and very prompt. Always keeping me updated on my other matter. Also Ive seen proof of judgements won by there firm for other cases against other developers. He is not afraid to show these judgements won by the firm for old clients if you go into the office to meet him. Let me know how you get on.
This is the crap these people are pushing on people who they feel are desperate. PARASITES.

Any news about construction status?

So, Which law firm do you work for then???

+1 for sniffing out the rat's

I have heard about so called legal advice, that just end up with you even poorer than before..

Be warned

There are a few people on this site who obviously are working for law firms,trying to generate business for their company by pretending they are having problems with their developer and telling purchasers who have problems with their developers to use their lawyer TLG. Can these fakes please be kicked off the site as they are just parasites.
^^Basically anyone who posts on SSC giving legal advise and has joint the forum just recently ( June or July) is working towards a law firm, mostly TLG.
It's easy: just check their posts and you will see they all go into the same direction.

I tried to return a private message to one of the culprits, but guess what he now won't recieve private messages.
Well RAZAAKHAAN here is the message


Well I read the article, Sunil Thaker also sent it to me. It was meaningless. It did not relate to Dubai Marina, It did not relate to Tiger or Pinnacle. It also said the person only got 250,000dhs which is less than TLG want to take the case forward, it also said they got 5% interest not the 9% TLG are quoting. It also said the contractor was appealing against the decision.
If you want to use TLG, then use them. But until you have a resolved case, with all your money back and 9% interest, don't suggest others should use them unless you are working for them, then all this makes sense.

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Did anyone receive an email from Tiger yesterday asking for payment. They claim pinnacle is approx 92% complete and completion is looking like Dec 2010.

Did anyone receive an email from Tiger yesterday asking for payment. They claim pinnacle is approx 92% complete and completion is looking like Dec 2010.

Yes they have sent the actual report from RERA over a month ago. I think it was published in the previous page.

I have a rental agreement clause in my contract for the first 3 years valued at 8% of the purchase price. Does everyone's contract contain the same? If so, can we deduct from the last payment. Your thoughts please

Sorry Audio4, you don't actually think our contracts are worth anything, do you.
Obviously mine is different to yours. Mine says I can get a full refund plus interest if project over runs by one year. Ye right.
Even the report is bent. They are not 92% complete. It is just another Dubai scam, to get all investers to make their 90% payment, and absolutly no way will that project be complete by Dec 2010, certainly not livable. The government,RERA and developers have all got together to milk investers as much as possible, which is why the laws change every other week making it harder and harder for the investers to get their money back or any compensation. The country must be laughing it's socks off at all the mugs who invested in Dubai, it's the 21st century rip off.
The more I read about Dubai, the more I get annoyed with their double standards, don't kiss your wife in public,but allow developers to steal from investers. My biggest ever mistake was purchasing in Dubai, they cannot be trusted.
I wish I could write direct to sheik Mo, but I would probably get locked up for telling the truth.


Yes they have sent the actual report from RERA over a month ago. I think it was published in the previous page.

I have a rental agreement clause in my contract for the first 3 years valued at 8% of the purchase price. Does everyone's contract contain the same? If so, can we deduct from the last payment. Your thoughts please

If you read the last line of Tigers threatening e.mail today, it says if payments are not recieved within 7 days, they have the right to cancel your contract. They are not allowed to do this without first applying to RERA who will give a 30 day notice. This is the lying,theiving bunch of dirty b******s we are dealing with.

Interesting to read quite a few of the posts on here.

We originally bought a Tiger property in Sharjah, which also ran approx 12mths late by which time the Sharjah law had changed dis-allowing any foreign ownership of property in Sharjah.

Tiger were NOT fantastic, but then again I reckon they were only as bad as any other developer. They did allow us to move property to Marina Pinnacle without any penalties etc etc. A delayed development yes, but at least we didn't loose EVERYTHING.

We were out in DXB in Feb and then again in June and made our own prediction of a DEC2010 completion date. I'm not looking through rose tinted glasses and am no great fan of Tiger, but in my opinion pretty much all the developers are of a similar calibre.

@AUDI04 - Sorry mate, our contract doesn't include any guaranteed rental as it was only drawn up at the end of last year. Looking at the rental market though, I wouldn't hold out too much hope of a guaranteed return. Sorry not to sound too positive, but there's an awful lot of empty properties out there.

We're out in DXB again next month and will hopefully post somthing on here on our return. Again merely an opinion !!

by which time the Sharjah law had changed dis-allowing any foreign ownership of property in Sharjah.

Says it all really doesn't it.

Interesting to read quite a few of the posts on here.

We originally bought a Tiger property in Sharjah, which also ran approx 12mths late by which time the Sharjah law had changed dis-allowing any foreign ownership of property in Sharjah.

Tiger were NOT fantastic, but then again I reckon they were only as bad as any other developer. They did allow us to move property to Marina Pinnacle without any penalties etc etc. A delayed development yes, but at least we didn't loose EVERYTHING.

We were out in DXB in Feb and then again in June and made our own prediction of a DEC2010 completion date. I'm not looking through rose tinted glasses and am no great fan of Tiger, but in my opinion pretty much all the developers are of a similar calibre.
We're out in DXB again next month and will hopefully post somthing on here on our return. Again merely an opinion !!

So Tiger were running a year late in Sharjah, and Tiger being so generous allowed you to move your money to a project running three years late. Did you never think you were being conned. I hope all your payments are up to date as Tiger have now started repossessing properties. I got my 30 notice from the land department.
Is it worth fighting the case, I don't think so. RERA and The Land Department and the inspection company are all owned by the government, so to take it to arbitration would be pointless, they will always back the developer. Independant, I don't think so.
The developers know they can get away with anything in Dubai, from late developments to shoddy workmanship to abusing it's work force.
So it's a case of pay up,shut up or loose your property. As I have said before, a lawless unjust society.
It made me laugh when I telephoned Tiger the other day, they can lie and cheat and steal our money, but when I tried to talk to Mr Hamdy he was praying. How hypocritical is that.