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Marky Mark
August 14th, 2004, 07:18 AM
http://www.bayleys.co.nz/listingImg/24618/24618_f.jpg

Kings View 1 now Under Construction.


Will try and Keep this Thread up to Date , its my Home Town and a hot property area so think it deserves its own Thread. :)

jacobsian
August 14th, 2004, 07:53 AM
It's kinda odd that there were no scrapers in the area, and suddenly a bunch of them are propsed. What is it about the Tauranga area that's making it a hot destination for development? I can't imagine it'd be the weather ;)

Marky Mark
August 14th, 2004, 08:10 AM
:) http://www.bayleys.co.nz/listingImg/31342/31342_f.jpg


Not really a skyscraper but I guess this is how surfers started out to .

Marky Mark
August 14th, 2004, 08:56 AM
http://www.tauranga.co.nz/images/aerial2.jpg

Yob its the beautiful Beaches and Harbour :cheers:

Yes the weather is only good during Spring , Summer and early Autumn.

Marky Mark
August 14th, 2004, 09:08 AM
http://www.oceanside.nz-hotels.com/ttowerslge.jpg :)



Apartments Mt Maunganui Beach Tauranga .

Marky Mark
August 15th, 2004, 05:03 AM
http://www.1800-homes-for-sale.com/classifieds/upload/nz_homes_offices.623.1.jpg




Tauranga Devonport Towers just completed. :)

flyin_higher
August 15th, 2004, 06:27 AM
I saw that being built when i was in Tauranga last year- makes quite an impact too on cityscape!
I'm glad that Tauranga is booming like this, quite exciting!

Marky Mark
August 18th, 2004, 01:49 AM
http://www.citynews.co.nz/archives/archive_details.php?unique_id=1954

I Guess another crane over Tauranga CBD :)

flyin_higher
August 18th, 2004, 04:07 AM
Yeah, more construction- although a carparking building doesn't exactly contribute to a good urban environment. Oh well, cant be perfect i spose. Nice to hear they have started on the Kingsview towers too

NZer
August 18th, 2004, 12:35 PM
Look at those yuppies in their fuckin boats !!!

Marky Mark
August 19th, 2004, 01:15 AM
http://www.bayleys.co.nz/listingImg/36254/36254_f.jpg

Your right Flying Higher carpark buildings can be darn ugly ,lets hope they do something somewhat attractive .

Heres another render of Kingsview apartments which I believe is two separate Towers but by the renders it looks as though they are joined . :cheers:

Blah
August 19th, 2004, 02:42 AM
It's kinda odd that there were no scrapers in the area, and suddenly a bunch of them are propsed. What is it about the Tauranga area that's making it a hot destination for development? I can't imagine it'd be the weather ;)


Actually, it probably is the weather! Tauranga has a sunny and reasonably warm climate by NZ standards. Although the winters can still be pretty nasty.

Tauranga is a growth city of NZ and it has about 100,000 people now. It's already nearly the same size as Dunedin I think, and will overtake it soon. In 50 years I expect it to be a major economic hub as it has a very busy port and a nice climate and good beaches, plus it's not too far from Hamilton and Auckland.

Marky Mark
August 19th, 2004, 05:30 AM
You would be right on all those counts Blah , this is a very interesting article on the area which really sums up the excessive growth .

http://www.knowledgeplex.org/news/35500.html :)

NZer
August 19th, 2004, 11:32 AM
You should see some of the plans for Taurangas roads(they will be motorways)

It is good to see a city that size taking it's future roads so seriously !!

I don't think it was TransitNZ's website,it might have been Tauranga or Bay of Plenty regional councils one..........


btw,good on Bay of Plenty for winning the Ranfurly shield.

Marky Mark
August 19th, 2004, 01:54 PM
Yeah NZer they have been building motorways flat out to keep up with the traffic increases , from what I can gather approx $100 Million worth in the last couple of years with more projects starting shortly .

Visit this site to see some good recent Motorway construction photos.

http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/news/photos.html?p=1 :cool:

Marky Mark
August 20th, 2004, 01:45 AM
For those internationals that don't know the area found this Photo of part of Tauranga harbour showing Mt Maunganui at the entrance which used to be covered in Maori Fortifications Pre European Settlement ,area was the site of many Battles between the Maori and the British ,the most Famous the Battle of Gate Pa, Youre starting to rave on Marky Mark ! anyway don't ya reckon it's a magic setting for such a new city ? :)

http://www.refitnz.co.nz/images/tga_harbour.jpg

http://www.tauranga.co.nz/images/aerial1.jpg

finn
August 20th, 2004, 02:51 AM
^^Thanks for the info Marky Mark! I had no idea about this place before this thread and certainly not before the history lesson, hehe - in fact, until I just took the time to look it up on a map, I presumed it was an Auckland suburb! Obviously it's an outright city of its own, and if it is fast growing, perhaps New Zealand's Gold Coast equivalent? :)

flyin_higher
August 20th, 2004, 05:04 AM
perhaps New Zealand's Gold Coast equivalent? :)
Yes- i'd agree with that.

NZer
August 20th, 2004, 07:29 AM
Nah,NZ's gold coast will be Whangarei :D:D:D:D:D:D

BruceAlmighty
August 20th, 2004, 10:14 AM
^^, perhaps New Zealand's Gold Coast equivalent? :)

Sunshine Coast.
Because it has a limited ''beach'' season (Dec-Mar) and is primarily a domestic destination (mainly Auckland and northern region visitors) it will not attract the really ''big time'' development and entertainment of the GC. Most of the development will be single story suburban.

Marky Mark
August 20th, 2004, 12:56 PM
http://www.realtycorp.co.nz/parksidehamilton/preview.jpg :)
Tauranga Mt Maunganui has more than just Beaches and an amazing Harbour to preserve consistant growth ,it has the largest Export Port in New Zealand , a huge horticultual industry , light and heavy industrial estates a growing international tourist market , there are at present two international Hotels under construction - a Novotel and the Trinity wharf complex both with conference facilities [wish I could get hold of some Renders ] anyway the list goes on ,so even though the area will never match the size of Aussies Gold Coast and its abundent entertainment , it will be the closest NZ will get and will have not only the Beaches but an industry base with a totally different infrastructure.

Correct me if I'm wrong but most of the sunshine coast is urban single level Housing with all its glory [Highrise] along the beach.The more I look into developments in Tauranga the more I find High density Housing.

[IMG]

BruceAlmighty
August 20th, 2004, 01:17 PM
http://www.realtycorp.co.nz/parksidehamilton/preview.jpg :)
Tauranga Mt Maunganui has more than just Beaches and an amazing Harbour to preserve consistant growth ,it has the largest Export Port in New Zealand , a huge horticultual industry , light and heavy industrial estates a growing international tourist market , there are at present two international Hotels under construction - a Novotel and the Trinity wharf complex both with conference facilities [wish I could get hold of some Renders ] anyway the list goes on ,so even though the area will never match the size of Aussies Gold Coast and its abundent entertainment , it will be the closest NZ will get and will have not only the Beaches but an industry base with a totally different infrastructure.


[IMG]

All true, but has little to do with comparisons being made with the GC.

With regards to that argument I stand by my earlier comments.

Correct me if I'm wrong but most of the sunshine coast is urban single level Housing with all its glory [Highrise] along the beach.The more I look into developments in Tauranga the more I find High density Housing.

High density low-rise like the SC (Mt Manganui). Most of the developing areas like Papamoa are still single story suburban.

Marky Mark
August 21st, 2004, 05:34 AM
http://www.boatshed-accommodation.co.nz/images/mt4.jpg All true, but has little to do with comparisons being made with the GC.

With regards to that argument I stand by my earlier comments.



High density low-rise like the SC (Mt Manganui). Most of the developing areas like Papamoa are still single story suburban.

First come the Foundations then the Core ! :)

NZer
August 21st, 2004, 07:49 AM
Does anyone have an aerial photo of the whole Tauranga CBD,all I ever seem to be able to find is pics of part of it or just one half of it etc.

Marky Mark
August 21st, 2004, 09:10 AM
Have been searching NZer , however nothing up to date so far ! only older photos .

http://www.farmstay.co.nz/program/tgaphotos/apartment.JPG :cheers:

This shot is over at the Mount .

Marky Mark
August 22nd, 2004, 01:39 PM
Found this one Tonight , there are larger buildings Planned or under constructon ,trying to get Renders ,still alot happening for a place this size !


http://www.bayleys.co.nz/listingImg/35056/35056_f.jpg

Marky Mark
August 24th, 2004, 02:39 AM
Hanging out to get a render of Mid City Towers ,this was the media release article from earlier this year ,Tower will make a great impact on Tauranga skyline , apparently is in the final stages of council . approval .http://www.mytown.co.nz/story/mytstorydisplay.cfm?thecity=bayofplenty&thepage=news&storyID=3543504&type=nzh

:bash:

Marky Mark
August 27th, 2004, 06:55 AM
Boss is away so lets seach the Web for more Tauranga Developments .

This is a apartment complex in Matua an Hob Nob Tauranga surburb .

http://www.bayleys.co.nz/listingImg/29150/29150_f.jpg

New Plain Jane office building on outskirts of CBD
http://www.movingtimes.co.nz/property_images/www.movingtimes.co.nz/463.jpg

Stage one of huge Papamoa Junction is under construction , Retail ,apartments and general housing.
http://www.papamoajunction.co.nz/ContentStore/Assets/5/27/map2.jpg

Baby apartment block Papamoa beach ,larger developments being planned for this beach area of Tauranga .
http://www.secureholdings.co.nz/largepicsweb/beachsidelarge.JPG

Marky Mark
August 31st, 2004, 10:16 AM
Another New complex , just started construction , practically built on the water ,very close to CBD . There is a Hotel complex which is part of the same site but have yet to find a render , I think the hotel part is going to be 9 levels high .

:cheers: http://www.bayleys.co.nz/listingImg/34510/34510_f.jpg

flyin_higher
August 31st, 2004, 10:24 AM
Thanks for the updates Marky Mark! We value your contributions!

atkinson1
August 31st, 2004, 12:51 PM
Yeah you know alot about it MarkyMark

BruceAlmighty
September 2nd, 2004, 05:04 PM
Love those appartments in Matua and thats a sizable subdivision for Papamoa.
Mixed density right?

Marky Mark
September 3rd, 2004, 01:39 AM
http://www.papamoajunction.co.nz/popups/images/aerial1.jpg



Whole New Town really , first comes the sprawl then the talls ! :cheers:

Marky Mark
September 5th, 2004, 06:52 AM
http://202.165.64.16/storage/image_cache/316719_450x.jpg :)


And some Toorak style apartments for Inner suburbs Tauranga .,must be the same Architect as though Matua apartments .

http://www.realtycorp.co.nz/arudel/full.jpg

Marky Mark
September 10th, 2004, 10:21 AM
http://www.bayleys.co.nz/listingImg/29006/29006_5.jpg

From what I can gather from different web sites these apartments have all but sold with an average price exceeding $2million each . Any suburb with harbour views seems to be attracting its fair share of new developments .

http://www.bayleys.co.nz/listingImg/29006/29006_2.jpg

Marky Mark
September 17th, 2004, 02:17 AM
Timeshare.
http://www.accommodationinnewzealand.co.nz/northisland/bop/accommodation/sun.pacific/RESORT_07
The Beaumont
http://www.jasons.co.nz/brochure_rack/beaumont_capri/images/beaumont_1+2.jpg :)
The Atrium http://www.holidayhouses.co.nz/properties/pictures/2306_1.jpg?0.7055475

Marky Mark
September 22nd, 2004, 07:54 AM
Love this shot of Tauranga suburbs surrounding its complex harbour, if you look closely you can see White Island on the right hand Horizon blowing out Clouds of smoke , if I remember correctly locals would have exactly eight minutes to reach high ground if she errupted and set of a Tidal wave ! :runaway:

http://www.tauranga.nzgolf.net/tgaaerial.jpg

NZer
September 22nd, 2004, 08:40 AM
lol,then they would only have to worry about the chunks of pumice raining down on them.....and the suffocating ash.

If I lived in Tauranga and I heard White Island rumble,I'd be doing 165km/h down the SH1/SH2 interchange ramp before you could say kiwifruit.

NZer
September 22nd, 2004, 08:41 AM
^^^

NZer is scared of volcanoes.

Marky Mark
September 22nd, 2004, 09:05 AM
If she did ever blow and created a tidal Wave I'm sure most locals would try and surf it!


Just found this one of a couple of cruise ships entering the Harbour , nice ! :bleh:

http://www.wave.co.nz/~csi/mt.jpg

Marky Mark
September 27th, 2004, 01:46 PM
Looks as though Apartment developments in Tauranga are endless , for a place this size its a bit out of control , population should surpass Dunedin mid next year 2005, will be a approx ten years before she overtakes Hamilton though . :bash:

http://www.realtycorp.co.nz/bridgeport/preview.jpg

Marky Mark
September 28th, 2004, 07:11 AM
Only $1.9m each .

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/IMCBAYL001/37/33037-1.jpg

Newbee , a bit yuk .

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/HPSHARC001/07/MMC031107-1.jpg

Marky Mark
September 30th, 2004, 10:40 AM
and a 80 square metre cottage , happy Retirement . :)


www.citynews.co.nz/news/local_news.php

NZer
September 30th, 2004, 12:49 PM
Tauranga is in such a beautiful location for a city.

And all the development !!!

I have GOT to get my ass down there soon and have a proper nosey around.

Marky Mark
October 1st, 2004, 03:27 AM
Be good to Get some real life photos , Ive got to go back some next year to see Family , hopefully I can get some shots then , whenever I ask family over the ph ,any new developments they reply I don't know , never go into town anymore , or yea they announced something the other day I should have kept a clipping for you .Hopeless !

Anyway this one is another Newee , haven't seen before .

:) http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/ILS/61/469361-1.jpg '

NZer
October 1st, 2004, 09:10 AM
Aaaah,don't ell me your family shop at a suburban mall.lol

NZer's pet hate is suburban shopping malls!!!!

Marky Mark
October 1st, 2004, 10:10 AM
Yes NZer , I guess that what happens when a city gets to a certain size , Theres suburban Malls popping up all over the area , the latest at Papamoa .
I think Bayfair is one of the largest in NZ , Do you want me to post lots and lots of pictures Blerrrrrrrrr you might spew ! LOL

atkinson1
October 1st, 2004, 11:24 AM
Do you know what? The new mall in Albany will supposedly be the southern hemisphere's largest. And i was like "bull jkhsfr! what about melbournes?" and the person was like "no NO this one will be"

NZer
October 1st, 2004, 12:56 PM
You know what,even if it was the largest mall in the world I still wouldn't go there.

The only way I like to see Albany is from the Northern Motorway while I'm doing 100km/h.

atkinson1
October 1st, 2004, 01:55 PM
yeah i'd still goto Glenfield. I hate Albany.

flyin_higher
October 2nd, 2004, 01:27 AM
Aaaah,don't ell me your family shop at a suburban mall.lol

NZer's pet hate is suburban shopping malls!!!!

Yes! I also loathe suburban shopping malls. An urban disgrace

NZer
October 2nd, 2004, 09:55 AM
I hate them with a passion...........probably partly because of chrisaus/perthwa who also hates them,some of his hatred has rubbed off on me.

I hate tham so much that when I stayed in Takanini last year and wanted to go shopping,I drove all the way into Auckland city........right past Manukau etc.

flyin_higher
October 2nd, 2004, 11:11 AM
lol, good work. But to complete the planners dream, you should have taken public transport, hehe.

NZer
October 2nd, 2004, 11:43 AM
So very true.

But I had heard horror stories about it taking 3 hours to take a bus/train from Mt Albert into town,so I drove.

atkinson1
October 2nd, 2004, 01:03 PM
But what about my 15 min to Mt Albert from the Shore delio? ahh yes that was to town, sorry my bad

Anna_A
October 2nd, 2004, 02:53 PM
I hate the suburban shopping malls for one reason: Shitting Clothes.

atkinson1
October 3rd, 2004, 12:52 AM
I can only afford mall clothes. Maybe one day I will be able to afford a Louis Vuitton tie or shoelace.

NZer
October 3rd, 2004, 03:31 AM
lol@Tom

Marky Mark
October 6th, 2004, 02:11 AM
A couple of pictures of the completed Devonport towers , love that little fireplace on the Balcony !

http://www.realtycorp.co.nz/devtowers2/preview2.jpg

flyin_higher
October 6th, 2004, 09:50 AM
Hey wow, they do look quite cool! Go Tauranga!

:cheers: cheers mark.

Marky Mark
October 10th, 2004, 02:34 PM
I did n't know this one existed , about half way between the MT and Papamoa, reasonably large complex , might stay there when I visit My Nana LOL :)




http://www.cutterscove.co.nz/Bldgs.gif

Marky Mark
October 14th, 2004, 04:06 AM
A bit Spooky , White Island off the coast of Tauranga , Mt Maunganui is playing up a bit , the Lake has been slowly rising and it is about 5m from over flowing into the sea ,which will create a bit of a show . Hope there aren't any serious reasons why the Lake is rising , scientists are watching it very closely , at this stage they don't believe there are too many reasons to be concerned .LOL run for your life ! :)

http://www.whiteisland.co.nz/photos/WhiteAir.jpg

nz20
October 15th, 2004, 01:50 AM
I have stayed at Cutters Cove, in fact my parents own one on the top floor looking out over the pool. very nice complex.. :) I might have some interior pics somewhere too..

Marky Mark
October 17th, 2004, 06:23 AM
I would look after it ! Not too many beach parties LOL Just Joking , you going down for Holidays ?

Found this ariel of Tauranga CBD , still a good 2years old though , Devonport towers on the far right only just started , Now there are approx 4-5 highrises under construction or about to start , you can see why now the only way is up for this CBD as she is just about surrounded by water !
http://www.bayleys.co.nz/listingImg/22773/22773_f.jpg

This shot of the sprawl out Papamoa way, looks as though they are getting into the Lake Canal Thing !

http://www.realtybeach.co.nz/elements/aerial.jpg

NZer
October 17th, 2004, 08:08 AM
Wow!! Devonport Towers is about as central as you could possibly get in Tauranga !!
Those apartments are going to become so expensive as Tauranga grows.

Marky Mark
October 20th, 2004, 02:19 AM
This Web Cam in Tauranga can't go any further to the right so you can only get a teenee weenee view of the twin 16 level Kingsview Towers being constructed . [ Far right ]. Actually very frustrating I can't keep the picture up , must be a timer on address . Help ....

Ya right NZer Devonport Towers as well as these are very central all were pre sold before construction commenced , however some are already being re sold at much higher prices . :)
http://black.citynews.co.nz/index.php?get=citycam&dummy=1098239451590

Marky Mark
October 21st, 2004, 03:31 PM
Being three hours ahead of Oz its a bit quiet late at night , never mind just remember "when you wakey hands off snakey " as my Nana used to say , thats except you Anna A ,unless you have snakey company,LOL :)
Don't forget to have a good feed of Weetbix before heading off on your daily Chores ,see I'll be asleep when your all racing off . ya know my Nana used to cook sheep brain Fritters for breakfast on the Farm near Rotorua , my Grandad liked chewing on fresh sheep testicles as well until his teeth fell out LOL , oh I hope I'm not putting you guys off ya breakee ! :)


Like this shot of Oceanview Towers , MtMaunganui .

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/rblmtps001/22/M4622-1.jpg

atkinson1
October 21st, 2004, 11:00 PM
I'm at the uni cafe. Todays art and design history lecture consisted of filling out 4 course feedback forms which took at grand total of about 8 minutes to do, so here I am down in the cafe as usual. You're lucky I had just finished my chicken salad sandwich by the time I read that post marky mark.

Marky Mark
October 22nd, 2004, 02:53 AM
Reckon theres more protein in sheep testicles But ! :)

Heres an interesting article on growth in Tauranga , 27 new houses or apartments finished off a week , but locals are saying the place is growing too fast !
http://www.citynews.co.nz/archives/archive_details.php?chkMain=0&unique_id=2505

Marky Mark
October 29th, 2004, 08:36 AM
NOT IN TAURANGA BUT IN NEAR BY ROTORUA , 11 LEVEL OFFICE BUILDING , SHE LOOKS NEW BUT I THINK SHES ABOUT 12 YEARS OLD !

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/OSLBARF001/58/27058-1.jpg

Marky Mark
November 2nd, 2004, 01:54 AM
The doubling in size of Tauranga Harbour bridge should start early 2005 , the project combined with new motorway flyovers is worth close to $200m , I believe the new project will be totally Toll funded . With population growth at approx 3500 per year , vehicle numbers are increasing at approx 1000 per year ,so hopefully this will help some of the congestion . :)


http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/images/projects/harbour-link-1.jpg

sam_L
November 2nd, 2004, 04:21 AM
That looks like a pretty major project there. Especially that onramp/offramp/interchange thing in orange. Will this be the second stretch of M'way in Tauranga now?

You're lucky I had just finished my chicken salad sandwich by the time I read that post marky mark.

I hope you didn't buy that sandwich from the cafe. That place is a rip-off compared to bakeries down the road.

atkinson1
November 2nd, 2004, 04:37 AM
Yeah I always buy it from the rip off cafe. It means I don't have to go into Pt Chev where the people are weird.

Marky Mark
November 2nd, 2004, 04:50 AM
Sam this is a pretty good website showing what has been built and whats coming up in the future , I get confused without actually being their ,whats being built where .

http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/news/photos.html?p=1

flyin_higher
November 2nd, 2004, 08:32 AM
Tauranga's motorway building spree is a disgrace. It will only turn out like Auckland. Tauranga will have to content with pollution, congestion, higher obesity and the like.
Marky mark, don't you realise that building more roads doesn't solve congestion? Its like, quote; "trying to cure obesity by losening your belt!".
Tauranga, with its supposedly 'smart growth' planning policy, should be doing the hard yards now, and trying to create an alternative transport system, with a good network of cycle lanes, bus routes, etc, rather than motorways. Something, anything, but not more motorways!

atkinson1
November 2nd, 2004, 08:35 AM
The moment that motorway starts, people in Tauranga will start getting obese.

sam_L
November 2nd, 2004, 10:46 AM
Cheers for that link, Mark! Very interesting.

Tauranga is a prime city for a large cycle-lane network as it's so flat (from memory).

spotila
November 2nd, 2004, 11:22 AM
my grandmother lives in tauranga, infact right next to the expressway that goes under cambridge road. I enjoy visiting cause I get to nosey around at all the new stuff ^_^

atkinson1
November 2nd, 2004, 11:34 AM
Yo spotila, havn't seen you on here before. Welcome to kiwiscrapers man! Here's your complimentary milo and a chocolate orange.

I see you're from Napier, that's where flyin is from too.

Marky Mark
November 3rd, 2004, 09:42 PM
Tauranga's motorway building spree is a disgrace. It will only turn out like Auckland. Tauranga will have to content with pollution, congestion, higher obesity and the like.
Marky mark, don't you realise that building more roads doesn't solve congestion? Its like, quote; "trying to cure obesity by losening your belt!".
Tauranga, with its supposedly 'smart growth' planning policy, should be doing the hard yards now, and trying to create an alternative transport system, with a good network of cycle lanes, bus routes, etc, rather than motorways. Something, anything, but not more motorways!

New Pollution free Transport System for Tauranga !

T.T.C { Todds Tauranga Coaches } starts operating from their CBD Stables this weekend ! Full circle of city suburbs will only take 3 days.
Patrons will be permitted to bag Horse Manure for their Gardens along the way.
The Coach comes with Massage seating Guaranteened to tone your Arse .All Weather Brollies are available , howevere patrons will be asked to supply their own sunscreen during the summer months !

http://www.fletchertrust.co.nz/images/general/0049P-96.jpg :)

flyin_higher
November 4th, 2004, 12:59 AM
Oh how hilarious mark, how hilarious indeed. ;)

Marky Mark
November 4th, 2004, 01:16 AM
Hope you do find it Funny Flying Higher , anyways Tauranga does have a very good Bus service and one that is very profitable as well , there are plenty of cycle tracks as well including the Harbour bridges {I Think.}
Its Hard for a city that has doubled in size in approx 20 years to cope with Traffic pressures , The Lovely Helen should take some of those Billions off Auckland and help out Tauranga , however that is only robbing Peter to pay Paul . Yes I guess in the perfest world an Electric Tram system would be cool or something similar however it all comes down to the big Dollar ! :)

Marky Mark
November 10th, 2004, 03:30 AM
Novotel after paying the city council an outrageous [what they call an planning impact Fee ] Fee of $500,000 have been told they have to add another level of parking to the Hotel [ which I thought was already under construction and now won't start until early next year ] Not complaining about another level ,but the same impact fee for the Rotorua Hotel approx same size , under construction , cost $60,000 , now do'nt get too greedy TGA
The Hotel will now have 8 levels when it gets under way !

New building for TGA regional council has been announced , no renders yet but should be a nice design if Warren and Mahoney [ Architects ] have anything to do with it !
http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3607400&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection= :)

Also price records Keep tumbling in the residential Market !
http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3608873&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

Marky Mark
November 11th, 2004, 05:15 AM
All new ones , timing I guess for the Spring Property Market !

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/ILS/40/245340-1.jpg :)

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/ILS/91/422791-1.jpg

This green one is actually a different one to the above , Green is in LOL

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/LJHOOKR001/9Y/LJHFVL19Y-1.jpg

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/HPSHARC001/09/MMC041109-2.jpg

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/HPSHARC001/06/MMC041106-1.jpg

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/HPSHARC001/05/MMP040805-1.jpg

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/HPSHARC001/06/MMOS040106-1.jpg

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/virtour019/83/PP160383-1.jpg

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/HPSHARC001/02/MMOS041102-1.jpg

These ones are obviously finished but like the Photo !

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/IMCBAYL001/74/38974-1.jpg

Marky Mark
November 13th, 2004, 07:05 AM
I guess a City , becomes a real City, when it gets a full on Art Gallery .

Render of Taurangas New Art Gallery !


http://www.mitchellstoutarchitects.co.nz/images/tauranga/tau7s.jpg

Marky Mark
November 20th, 2004, 05:30 AM
at Mt Maunganui , those there streets will be fiiling up by now as the weather warms up and Santa gets Closer LOL :)

http://images.ljhooker.co.nz/PROPERTY/pictures/00363532.JPG

atkinson1
November 20th, 2004, 06:09 AM
Hahaha everything warms up when Santas around.

Marky Mark
November 24th, 2004, 12:30 AM
This complex is in the early stages of Construction .
Sorry Renders and photos are either small or Huge , City Council are also Planning a new Pier Development and a $20million plus Museum on the Water front.
:) :)
http://council.tauranga.govt.nz/cm/aquatics/exterior-nite-sml.jpg

http://council.tauranga.govt.nz/default.asp?CategoryID=100300&ArticleID=101694

Marky Mark
December 3rd, 2004, 10:56 AM
Sorry Flying Higher ! I think I can see a Cycle Lane LOL

Hewitts Road Flyover ! won't be open until 2006 . :)
http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/images/flyover/overview-with-names-small.gif


Hmmm ! some think is brewing in Papamoa East , a new Town centre with shopping complexes under Apartments [ Housing for 25,000 residents , Wow this could be Huge !], and a dazzling aray of Architects and Planners involved , some from Miami USA , can't wait to see some Renders ! :)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/AK0412/S00019.htm

flyin_higher
December 4th, 2004, 03:39 AM
Sorry Flying Higher ! I think I can see a Cycle Lane LOL

Hewitts Road Flyover ! won't be open until 2006 . :)
http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/images/flyover/overview-with-names-small.gif

And i'm laughing all the way to the petrol station....Not.

Marky Mark
December 4th, 2004, 04:12 AM
There is quite a network of Clubs and Cycling Facilities in the area Mr Flying Higher , I was just having a Tease LOL http://ourcity.tauranga.govt.nz/facilities/cycling/

flyin_higher
December 4th, 2004, 10:41 AM
Well good, no more cheeky business marky mark or you may find yourself in a position of not being able to log in anymore.

Marky Mark
December 4th, 2004, 12:33 PM
Really think you are over reacting to a humourous Tease , you know like a joke ! Everyone including myself respects your position and if I'd known you would take such excessive offence I wouldn't have bothered , to take it as far as threatening to Ban me is way overboard .
Have ya seen what they say to Culla locally LOL Sh.t members around the world practically post porn without a cough from their local Administrator !
Relax Buddy !

atkinson1
December 4th, 2004, 12:48 PM
Constable Carrot.

KIWIKAAS
December 4th, 2004, 02:37 PM
Well good, no more cheeky business marky mark or you may find yourself in a position of not being able to log in anymore.

Hey Flyin. I hope that was just a tease back.

flyin_higher
December 4th, 2004, 11:38 PM
Ah dear, sorry guys! Yes I was just teasing, Marky Mark! I should have added a emoticon to show that with my post, sorry.

I would never ban you or anyone else unless it was really serious and always after I had discussed it with Culwulla.

Marky Mark
December 7th, 2004, 01:23 AM
A couple of evening views from Devonport Towers looking up the Harbour towards Mt Maunganui .

Is anyone in the area for Xmas , Spolita and NZ20 don't you have a Nanas or apartments in the area LOL would be good to get some real live Photos , Hint Hint !

If you look closely you can see Kingsview Towers with its crane top far left !

http://photos.harcourts.co.nz/TY/04/TY041203_custom.jpg

http://photos.harcourts.co.nz/TY/04/TY041202_custom.jpg

Marky Mark
December 12th, 2004, 02:45 AM
Awesome Photos of the Tauranga , Mt Maunganui area by a local Photo Expert "The Kaimai Kid "

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/gallery/120_2026.jpg

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/gallery/120_2023.jpg

flyin_higher
December 12th, 2004, 05:47 AM
Good find Marky mark, Devonport towers are looking great!

Marky Mark
December 12th, 2004, 06:03 AM
I have special permission from the Kaimai Kid to show some of his Photos , they are all beautiful , hopefully he may be able to do some showing the Kingsview apartment and Trinity Wharf construction sites on his next photo expedition . :)


http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/gallery/Tauranga%20Lights%202.jpg

Kaimai Kid
December 13th, 2004, 06:07 PM
Sorry Mark, I updated my site and changed a few pages resulting in most photo urls being changed as well....

Anyways Devonport Towers

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/120_2026.jpg

Night view of Tauranga CBD

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/Tauranga%20Lights%202.jpg

Tauranga Habour Bridge

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/IMG_5158.jpg

and again with port in background

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/123_2399.jpg

Port Of Tauranga

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/DSCN0585.jpg

IRD building

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/DSCN0427.jpg

will add more if people want...

Marky Mark
December 13th, 2004, 09:40 PM
'Santa has come early' Welcome Kaimai Kid to Kiwiscrapers ,awesome to have a local member ,especially one that is so good with a Camera . :)

Whenever you travel down from the Kaimai Ranges a shot of the Kingsview Towers would be cool ! :)

atkinson1
December 14th, 2004, 02:23 AM
Yo Kaimai Kid Welcome to Kiwiscrapers bro. Here's your complimentary milo and a chocolate wafer.

Awesome pics man those are impressive. That harbour bridge looks like something from Miami.

flyin_higher
December 14th, 2004, 07:30 AM
Lets hear it for our newest member! Nice to have you on board Kaimai Kid. :cheers:

Kaimai Kid
December 14th, 2004, 07:53 AM
'Santa has come early' Welcome Kaimai Kid to Kiwiscrapers ,awesome to have a local member ,especially one that is so good with a Camera . :)

Whenever you travel down from the Kaimai Ranges a shot of the Kingsview Towers would be cool ! :)

Kingsview towers ???

another one that I am confused about - Trinity wharf ??

need more info please...

also thanks for the warm welcome folks...

so what sort of pics you guys like to see and what are you allowed to post??

cheers
Gary

flyin_higher
December 14th, 2004, 08:01 AM
We like to see cool pics fo NZ cities and Scrapers, And you can post anything, as long as it isn't porn or such like, lol.
I believe this is a PG rated forum, hehe ;)

Marky Mark
December 14th, 2004, 08:20 AM
Kingsview towers ???

another one that I am confused about - Trinity wharf ??

need more info please...

also thanks for the warm welcome folks...

so what sort of pics you guys like to see and what are you allowed to post??

cheers
Gary

Shouldn't take for granted that you Know those Developments .

Kingsview Towers is the large apartment complex currently under construction opposite Baycourt , is probaly just multiple levels of steel at this stage.

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/virtour032/73/PP169973-1.jpg

Trinity Wharf is a Hotel apartment complex down the Harbour bridge end of Dive cresent , not sure where that one is up to but construction was started a few months back , however because it is being built partly over the water they still might be relocating the local Mermaids LoL Nah they might be drilling piles into the Harbour bed ! :)

Kaimai Kid
December 14th, 2004, 10:10 AM
Know them but not their names.....

Kaimai Kid
December 15th, 2004, 08:58 AM
Ok, went and grabbed a couple of pics for you on my way home from work today...

be warned they are not flash but it will give you a general idea of where things are at...

Trinity Wharf

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/Trinity%20Wharf.jpg

Kingsview Towers

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/Kingsview%20Towers.jpg

Old Tauranga Post Office (chucked this one in to boot and you can see the Kingsview Towers in the background)

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/Old%20Tauranga%20Post%20Office.jpg

flyin_higher
December 15th, 2004, 09:37 AM
Thanks for those pics- Gives me some incentive to actually get along to Tauranga and see all that's happenin.

Marky Mark
December 15th, 2004, 10:28 AM
weren't expecting photos so quick LOL Trinity wharf is at the stage I thought it would be , surprised to see Kingsview so advanced .
Now all we need is them to get moving on the Novotel and Midcity Towers , Novotel is going right next to Baycourt and should start in the New Year , I reckon Midcity Towers will be a good 6 months away yet from starting ,that one 16 levels is going down Devonport road somewhere .

From what I heard there is a huge hole in the ground on the corner of Wharf street and Cameron road , the start of a new office building .

The old Post Office always looks good , must lookup its History !

Thanks again Kaimai Kid :) :)

KIWIKAAS
December 15th, 2004, 06:22 PM
Traffic on Tamatea Arikinui Drive (Route J) travels under Takitimu Drive (Route K) on its way towards Cambridge Road.
http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/dbimages/image-514.jpg

This new link through Judea joins Routes J and K with Takitimu Drive and the Harbour Bridge.
http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/dbimages/image-512.jpg

The highway disappears across the valley from the Fifteenth Avenue Bridge to Cambridge Road.
http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/dbimages/image-517.jpg

Waihi Road traffic (right) travels over Takitimu Drive.
http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/dbimages/image-509.jpg

Traffic climbs the Fifteenth Avenue Bridge to Cameron Road.
http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/dbimages/image-518.jpg

Harbour Bridge. Will soon be duplicated.
http://www.srnetwork.co.nz/dbimages/image-529.jpg

Kaimai Kid
December 16th, 2004, 03:45 AM
Just a couple of more pics from around Tauranga.... All taken by yours truely...

Kaitemako Falls

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/IMG_3206.jpg

Another Tauranga Habour Bridge shot...

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/Tauranga%20Habour%20Bridge.jpg

The Strand

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/114_1472.jpg

and another...

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/114_1475.jpg

and another...

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/114_1495.jpg

and another...

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/115_1533.jpg

and you guessed it - yes yet another...

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/115_1564.jpg

Another view of the Tauranga CBD

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/119_1987.jpg

Port of Tauranga from 600t Slipway

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/119_1992.jpg

600t Slipway

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/120_2013.jpg

View towards Maungatapu and Welcome Bay from CBD

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/120_2016.jpg

Prime location - Rabbit Island

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/124_2447.jpg

Mount View showing the twin towers

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/124_2479.jpg

Maungatapu Causeway

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/DSCN0397.jpg

Port of Tauranga and marina

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/DSCN0422.jpg

McLaren Falls Bridge

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/DSCN0654.jpg

Marshall Falls @ McLarens Falls Park

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/DSCN0679.jpg

Mount view from Tauranga Marina

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/DSCN0795.jpg

Tauranga Marina

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/DSCN0807.jpg

Oropi Quarry - Tauranga

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/IMG_3049.jpg

Port of Tauranga

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/Port%20of%20Tauranga.jpg

Salisbury Wharf

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/The%20Jetty.jpg

The Mall and Mount view

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/The%20Mount.jpg







The next couple of photos are not Tauranga but approx 100km southeast of Tauranga but may be of interest to some when you see them....





Matahina Dam and power station in full flood....

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/IMG_3880.jpg

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/IMG_3888001.jpg

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/IMG_3911.jpg

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/IMG_3921.jpg




and a skyscraper building machine of yesteryear.... (found at Oropi Quarry near Tauranga)

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/IMG_3014.jpg

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/Put%20out%20to%20pasture.jpg

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/IMG_3016.jpg







ok sorry to spam you with my photos - I sort of got carried away....

just shoot me ;o)

Gary

flyin_higher
December 16th, 2004, 09:20 AM
wooow! those pics are great- esp. those night ones, nice job mate. Don't worry 'bout the spamming, lol we like that round here (most of the time anyway)

Marky Mark
December 16th, 2004, 10:01 AM
LOL nearly blew the main Server at work Today viewing those Photos , worth it though ! :)

atkinson1
December 16th, 2004, 10:17 AM
Kaimai Kid you really are the man

unless you're a chick, in which case you really are the chick

KIWIKAAS
December 16th, 2004, 03:06 PM
Beautiful photos Kaimai. Subject, compossition, image quality. Great stuff!

Love the last 2.

Kaimai Kid
December 18th, 2004, 07:36 PM
Ok, captured a mobile skyscraper this time...

Its the Sapphire Princess on her first voyage into Tauranga Habour with the Mount as a backdrop - she is the largest vessel to sail into New Zealand...

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/boat.jpg

Notice the size of the buildings in the background...

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/boat2.jpg

And finally berthed at the Mount Port berth # 1...

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/boat1.jpg

KIWIKAAS
December 18th, 2004, 09:35 PM
Totally dwarfs the appartment blocks on the beach. Totally.
When I was last in the mount there was a similar cruise liner docked. Everything els around looked small and provincial next to it.

Marky Mark
December 18th, 2004, 11:51 PM
Great Shots !
Would be an amazing photo looking down on one of these Beasts , from say on top of the Mount as she entered the Harbour , nah don't worry Kaimai Kid we don't want you dangling from some Cliff face to take Photos LOL

Marky Mark
December 19th, 2004, 02:35 AM
On extentions and upgrading Tauranga Hospital !

If all the Total Projects planned or under construction , including new Motorways etc were added up , that total would not be far off the ONE $$BILLION Marky Mark !

For A City this size thats phenomenal . :)

http://www.citynews.co.nz/archives/archive_details.php?pageNum_Recordset_archive=5&totalRows_Recordset_archive=456&chkMain=0&unique_id=2092

Kaimai Kid
December 20th, 2004, 07:24 AM
Port of Tauranga

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/IMG_3574.jpg

and the Mount Towers to boot...

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/mount.jpg

the above photo is actually 3 joined together - the compression and resizing to fit in here does not do it justice.... but I don't think you would still like me if I posted a 12meg pic.... ;o)

flyin_higher
December 20th, 2004, 08:31 AM
Nice. Take a walk up the Mount I presume? Good view from there looks like. It's interesting to note the similarities that Tauranga and Auckland share; significant harbour, major port, dominant volcano near harbour entrance, low rise/ sprawled urban form linked by motorway system, coastal connections, high economic and population growth, a harbour bridge...quite a few really!

Marky Mark
December 23rd, 2004, 12:08 AM
Apartment complex for Tauranga , just been released through Bayleys , anymore of this and I'll have to post a Townsville Vs Tauranga Thread !

https://www.bayleys.biz/list_img/283132/283132_1.jpg

SkylineTurbo
December 23rd, 2004, 01:49 AM
Tauranga, in 20-30 years could look like a smaller (land wise) version of the Gold Coast

SkylineTurbo
December 23rd, 2004, 01:50 AM
Tauranga's shape on a map is like Miami almost.

Marky Mark
December 25th, 2004, 01:23 PM
more and more popular , its like going back to the 70s , not sure whether I like it , more developments for Tauranga , surely if high density housing keeps increasing like it is in Tauranga and the Mount , even if most of it is low rise , it will become one of the most populous areas of NZ :)

https://www.bayleys.biz/list_img/39673/39673_1.jpg

https://www.bayleys.biz/list_img/283072/283072_1.jpg

These ones just Norh of TGA at Waihi Beach !

https://www.bayleys.biz/list_img/37926/37926_1.jpg

Papamoa
http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/ILS/09/259109-1.jpg

Marky Mark
December 25th, 2004, 10:18 PM
another Render of those new Cityside Apartments , quiet a large complex !


http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/virtour017/76/PP224276-1.jpg

SkylineTurbo
December 26th, 2004, 10:43 AM
I hope Tauranga expands the airport!

Marky Mark
December 26th, 2004, 01:19 PM
I hope Tauranga expands the airport!

There is alot of potential there , there has been alot of talk about it but not much doing , Tauranga has the fourth busiest controlled Airport in New Zealand after the 3 main international Airports at Aucland , Wellington , and Christchurch, heres an interesting article on its history .

http://www.citynews.co.nz/vtours/airport/index.html :)

SkylineTurbo
December 27th, 2004, 10:53 AM
^ It is a shame that the Air NZ domestic services do not use jets for the airport.

SkylineTurbo
December 27th, 2004, 10:55 AM
That whole vicinity around the airport stinks like timber from the nearby factories.

atkinson1
December 27th, 2004, 11:16 AM
and from peoples wooden charlie chaplin cutouts

climbing_crane
December 27th, 2004, 12:25 PM
it was a jumpform from the nineteen- forties

Marky Mark
December 28th, 2004, 12:40 AM
shows just how dense low rise Apartments are getting at Mt Maunganui ,
hopefully when shes full , we will see more Height in any new developments . :)

http://203.110.155.132/storage/image_cache/369859_640x.jpg

SkylineTurbo
December 28th, 2004, 08:53 AM
and from peoples wooden charlie chaplin cutouts
:rofl:

Marky Mark
December 30th, 2004, 11:13 PM
for Mt Maunganui , 2005 is going to be a boom year for construction in the area!

:) http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3618460&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection= :)

Kaimai Kid
December 31st, 2004, 08:20 PM
^ It is a shame that the Air NZ domestic services do not use jets for the airport.

http://kiwiradio.blakjak.net/images/gallery/scenery/737%20at%20Tauranga.jpg

They send the odd one in...

SkylineTurbo
January 1st, 2005, 03:46 AM
^They are normally the Saabs, but that is good that jets are coming.

Marky Mark
January 4th, 2005, 11:17 PM
The Tenth New Apartment complex announced within a week ! :)

http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3618923&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

https://www.bayleys.biz/list_img/282890/282890_1.jpg

Marky Mark
January 5th, 2005, 10:16 AM
this complex , which was posted very early in the Thread is finally commencing construction , being built on the city side of the Harbour near the Marina . :)

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/IDIRWNZ001/59/GRE10359-1.jpg

SkylineTurbo
January 6th, 2005, 02:31 AM
Hope fully we'll be seeing taller developments around the harbour soo, (city side).

flyin_higher
January 6th, 2005, 07:20 AM
this complex , which was posted very early in the Thread is finally commencing construction , being built on the city side of the Harbour near the Marina . :)

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/IDIRWNZ001/59/GRE10359-1.jpg

Is this Trinity Wharf? or another waterfront one?

Marky Mark
January 6th, 2005, 07:32 AM
Is this Trinity Wharf? or another waterfront one?

Totally different complex to Trinity Wharf Flying Higher , Trinity Wharf is well under construction . :)

flyin_higher
January 6th, 2005, 10:50 AM
Ah very good then!

SkylineTurbo
January 7th, 2005, 04:42 AM
Good to see that these are getting constructed fast.

Marky Mark
January 8th, 2005, 05:21 AM
This is Tauranga Districts ugliest apartment complex !


http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/virtour003/53/PP224453-1.jpg :runaway:

Marky Mark
January 8th, 2005, 05:47 AM
Can't find a render yet of the new Cayman Apartments announced last week , but it will be about the same size and built right next door to this one the Beautmont Apartments at the Mount . :)

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/LJHOOKR001/8T/LJHGB318T-1.jpg

SkylineTurbo
January 9th, 2005, 10:48 AM
This is Tauranga Districts ugliest apartment complex !


http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/virtour003/53/PP224453-1.jpg :runaway:
Looks like my apartment in Auckland only not as ugly. :)

Marky Mark
January 11th, 2005, 04:51 AM
the apartment complex on the right is about 15 years old , its certainly looks better than some of the newer ones at the MT LOL :)

https://www.bayleys.biz/list_img/280799/280799_1.jpg :)

Marky Mark
January 12th, 2005, 08:05 AM
for Tauranga's Blue Chip Stadium , if it gets approved it will include a 9,000 seat indoor concert centre and involve roofing the exsisting 18,000 seat stadium suitable for indoor Rugby matches , this will make it the Largest Indoor entertainment centre in New Zealand . Go Tauranga ! :)
http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3619783&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

Marky Mark
January 14th, 2005, 12:57 AM
one of 10 new Apartment Complexes annnounced Last week , most of the 30 large Units are sold , prices ranged from $450,000 - $1000,000

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/virtour003/04/PP225604-1.jpg :)

Marky Mark
January 15th, 2005, 12:51 AM
Another bunch of Apartments announced , 2 new ones at Papamoa and one on the City side ! LOL Mainzeal are having to turn down Work . :)

http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3620294&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/pics/apart15.jpg

SkylineTurbo
January 15th, 2005, 03:44 AM
The indoor sporting venue centre sounds great! :)

Marky Mark
January 17th, 2005, 11:33 AM
down the Page ! Photo of Grand View apartments at the MT :)

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/vclfnat003/50/T6250-1.jpg

SkylineTurbo
January 17th, 2005, 01:08 PM
This is around 15 years old.

Marky Mark
January 17th, 2005, 09:58 PM
:) This is around 15 years old.

Would look better today if it had Balconies , and in its Location near the Beach would have been more practical :)

SkylineTurbo
January 17th, 2005, 10:22 PM
Without the balconies it looks like an office building.

atkinson1
January 18th, 2005, 07:28 AM
Without the balconies it looks like the ham sandwich that momma cass choked on

KingKong1
January 18th, 2005, 10:51 AM
I remember when they built that and it wasnt 15 years ago, cos i can't even remember my 5th birthday let alone remembering a giant ham sandwich being built.

But your right, I do remember thinking it was an office building too.

SkylineTurbo
January 19th, 2005, 03:30 AM
There is a building in Auckland (Newmarket I assume) that looks very similar but it is only shorter, probobly the same architects I guess.

atkinson1
January 19th, 2005, 08:58 AM
Where abouts in Newmarket? and how many floors do you rekon?

SkylineTurbo
January 20th, 2005, 04:06 AM
This was over near the Olympic pools, I'd say it was around 5 levels, so smaller than the apartments.

atkinson1
January 20th, 2005, 09:38 AM
yeah I'm just trying to think if I've seen it but I only go to Newmarket for the Sony Showroom. I'll have a look next time I'm there.

SkylineTurbo
January 20th, 2005, 12:43 PM
It's not the pyramid westpac building though.

Marky Mark
January 21st, 2005, 01:28 AM
Now that you guys have finally finished discussing that Auckland building , which really has nothing to do with this Thread LOL [ read in a pompus English accent with Humorous Sarcastic overtones ]

Here is a Photo from the Famous Kaimai Kid , a photo was posted earlier showing the Harbour bridge from the city side , this one is taken from the Mt Side ! :)

http://mishami.image.pbase.com/u11/cdrebel/upload/37992414.bridge.JPG

SkylineTurbo
January 21st, 2005, 02:11 AM
Cool picture, even from under the bridge.

flyin_higher
January 21st, 2005, 04:20 AM
For some reason ur pic isn't showing

SkylineTurbo
January 21st, 2005, 04:46 AM
Just copy and paste the picture it works, bandwith might have exceeded I think.

atkinson1
January 21st, 2005, 09:27 AM
Kaimai Kid went in a canoe to take that picture.

SkylineTurbo
January 21st, 2005, 11:19 AM
It looks great from that angle.

Marky Mark
January 22nd, 2005, 07:20 AM
one of the areas new Apartment complexes :)
Everyone in this street must own a Porsche LOL maybe Auto Cad should add a few more models to its Programme .

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/vclcoll001/09/009-1.jpg

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/vclcoll001/09/009-2.jpg

atkinson1
January 22nd, 2005, 09:52 AM
All the cars in Auto-Cad Car Expansion Pack are banged up Kingswoods for West Auckland homes.

The development looks reasonably good although the stucco wall in that indoor garden atrium will be mouldy by 2009 if CLR (Calcium Lime Rust) isn't applied regularly.

SkylineTurbo
January 23rd, 2005, 07:21 AM
I reakon. :lol:

flyin_higher
January 23rd, 2005, 08:28 AM
Its interesting to note how they never have bikes or other forms of transport in those computer renders- just cars cars cars, lol

atkinson1
January 23rd, 2005, 08:46 AM
I know. They need an expansion pack with Segway, Skateboard, and Non Petrol Go Karts. Also a Zorb would be good for hillside homes. Anyway back to the topic.

Here's a map of the cycling route in Tauranga:

http://content.tauranga.govt.nz/fixedpages/591897d630a249cca93b02a6cfd56d4a/8a16b4c14aab4cfca89445b6963f8d98/images/MtMaunganui_large.jpg
SOURCE: http://ourcity.tauranga.govt.nz/facilities/cycling/onroad/

SkylineTurbo
January 23rd, 2005, 09:31 AM
That would be good for exercising. :jk:

Marky Mark
January 24th, 2005, 10:13 PM
However check out this photo of Kingsview apartments , even though a small Photo , its a great Angle , where's the Kaimai Kid when You need him ! Looks like the crane has now gone :)

http://www.citynews.co.nz/news/local_news.php :)

Marky Mark
January 25th, 2005, 12:37 AM
Ive never seen it from this angle before looks so different !

http://photos.harcourts.co.nz/TG/04/TG041213_2_custom.jpg :)


and a view from an apartment looking across town towards the Kingsview apartments and the Harbour !

http://photos.harcourts.co.nz/TG/04/TG041213_3_custom.jpg :)

flyin_higher
January 25th, 2005, 03:39 AM
Wow! Finally some cool close up pics of these new Tauranga bldgs, and u can even see Kingsview Towers in background of second pic.
:cheers:

Marky Mark
January 26th, 2005, 11:50 PM
$110,000,000 Upgrade and Extensions have commenced , not sure if there are any substantial buildings involved , however you would think so for the Value being Spent ! :) http://www.citynews.co.nz/news/local_news.php

flyin_higher
January 27th, 2005, 01:17 AM
In what otherwise seems like a good development, it seems a bit silly that they are putting alot of that money into building a carpark- since when have carparks been a key part of hospital operations? The money should be put to things that help people, cars dont help people, they just make them lazy. Don't these health officials realise that alot of current health issues; heart problems, respiratory diseases, and especially obesity, are the related to excessive car use? They should be building a public transport terminal or a covered cycle stand or something.

atkinson1
January 27th, 2005, 02:37 AM
They must have found some justification for needing a carpark

Marky Mark
January 27th, 2005, 03:21 AM
I think Tauranga residents could do with an urgent delivery of 100,000 Bicycles right now judging by this Latest News report !
http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3621782&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

flyin_higher
January 27th, 2005, 03:58 AM
Yeah your right. And they need them right now!

Marky Mark
January 28th, 2005, 11:29 AM
that this apartment complex is going to be built at Papamoa [ previously thought at the Mount when it was announced a few weeks ago].
Didn't think Papamoa would be getting multi Level buildings for a few years yet,there is a second one aprox this size as well to be built ! :)

http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/pics/apart15.jpg

SkylineTurbo
January 29th, 2005, 01:52 AM
Possibly in few more years, 5 stories perhaps in Papamoa?

Marky Mark
January 29th, 2005, 11:38 PM
Possibly in few more years, 5 stories perhaps in Papamoa?

Sooner than that Blackadder , under strict instructions my Mum has to send over any Newspaper clippings regarding new Buildings in the area !
This article shows the Cityside apartments and the other two at Papamoa , that second one is Five Levels , not bad for an area which was just a few Beach Batches a few years ago , all these blocks are being designed for permanant Living and the two in Papamoa both have Retail underneath ! :) http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid156/p254ee0589a7eb7a1913112f00b4e320d/f54c6afa.jpg

SkylineTurbo
January 30th, 2005, 06:45 AM
I like the second one.

flyin_higher
January 30th, 2005, 10:11 AM
Thats very nice of your Mum to send that stuff over to you Marky mark

Marky Mark
February 3rd, 2005, 03:32 AM
I thought Mt Maunganui had been handed back to the Maori's years ago , however not so judging by this article today , good to see public access will still be free and relatively uninhibited !http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3622626&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection= :)

http://www.markphillips.com/travel/2004.nz.pics/2004-03-08.MtMaunganui.water.DSC_1496.600x398.jpg

flyin_higher
February 3rd, 2005, 03:37 AM
Yeah thats a good thing that Maori will become legal owners.

Marky Mark
February 3rd, 2005, 08:33 AM
Render doesn't look that Large but this has I think 50 odd apartments and retail over Four Levels , will check out details !

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/KINBAYL001/90/282890-2.jpg :)

SkylineTurbo
February 3rd, 2005, 10:40 AM
Mt Maunganui (the mountain itself) should stay free from any developments, being an icon, who wants to see it being ruined by some up-scale retirement village.

Marky Mark
February 5th, 2005, 04:05 AM
Over the years here has been alot of talk and projects discussed for Mt Maunganui including an Revolving Restuarant at the Summit , however with ownership of the Land always in contention nothing ever commenced .

My dream for Mt Maunganui was always a living Pa built on the Summit as a major Tourist Attraction .
Groups of Tourists would be greeted at the base by Maori's dressed in their Native Clothing , they would be escorted around the Mount to its many sheltered Bays where they would gather Shellfish etc for a traditional Hangi . At the same time a Maori War Canoe would appear full of Maori Warrior's paddling across the Harbour entrance from Matakana Island .

http://www.yourchoicetours.co.nz/page1_files/Waka.jpg

The group would then climb the Mount and be greeted at the village entrance by Maori Warrior's ,of course doing a Haka !

Upon entering the Village , an escorted tour would commence , followed by Poi dancing and the Hangi [ by the way no Fluro Poi's as they use in Rotorua
LOL ]
The evening would finish with a nice relaxing soak in the Saltwater Hot Pools !

This type of attraction already exists I guess in some form or another , however with this stunning Location and Cruise Ships arriving constantly , as well as other Holiday visitors , it would work out to be a very profitable Tourist operation .

Rotorua would be Spewing But ! :)

atkinson1
February 5th, 2005, 05:59 AM
That might be offencive to the Maori though. To "build" a tourist-attraction pa, and then run it as a business venture. A bit like Suzanne Paul's tacky Rawaka. Pa's are historical sites of actual cultural significance. The buried village in Rotorua is a bit different though because they excavated a real ancient site, as opposed to just mocking-up a historical scene. That's just my opinion though, I'm probably wrong.

SkylineTurbo
February 5th, 2005, 06:14 AM
Rawaka went out of business, Suzanne was losing money from it. :lol: She should have just stuck to the infomercials. :D

flyin_higher
February 5th, 2005, 07:14 AM
That might be offencive to the Maori though. To "build" a tourist-attraction pa, and then run it as a business venture. A bit like Suzanne Paul's tacky Rawaka. Pa's are historical sites of actual cultural significance. The buried village in Rotorua is a bit different though because they excavated a real ancient site, as opposed to just mocking-up a historical scene. That's just my opinion though, I'm probably wrong.

No Tom, your right, and i would prefer the Mount to be kept free of any development, whether Maori or Pakeha initiated

atkinson1
February 5th, 2005, 07:40 AM
Yeah I'm not a fan of developing things on land either, especially tacky tourist ventures.

And as for Suzanne Paul, I think she still owes quite alot. I heard she was back on the natural glow to try and help pay off some debts.

Marky Mark
February 5th, 2005, 01:46 PM
has called for Tenders for the Last Stages of the CBD Waterfront , this will include two Piers ,with Retail Shops and Cafes !

http://www.transurban.co.nz/images/pubrealm_tauranga_4.jpg

http://www.transurban.co.nz/images/pubrealm_tauranga_5.jpg

http://www.transurban.co.nz/images/pubrealm_tauranga_3.jpg :)

flyin_higher
February 5th, 2005, 09:26 PM
Designs look good for this project!

SkylineTurbo
February 6th, 2005, 06:38 AM
Beats the concrete and drabby old boats from the 1960s, bloody marvellous.

Marky Mark
February 9th, 2005, 02:22 AM
2 x Eco friendly Buildings for Environmental offices , one for TGA and one for Whakatane :) http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3623220&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

flyin_higher
February 9th, 2005, 04:46 AM
Nice to see the regional council taking pursuing environmentally thoughtful offices- I don't see why the government doesnt make this mandatory for all new govt bldgs/ schools, etc, would be great!

Marky Mark
February 11th, 2005, 02:47 AM
they are Planning to put a Roof over this Stadium [ Baypark - Blue Chip Stadium ] , it will be Massive !

http://www.baypark.co.nz/images/baypark_splash_r3_c2.jpg :)

KingKong1
February 11th, 2005, 08:15 AM
The oval by the ocean is not very good for watching sports at- the seats are to far away from the action, theres like a 20m gap between the feild and the spectators

atkinson1
February 11th, 2005, 09:42 AM
I can see that gap lol it looks like an Olympic running track

Marky Mark
February 13th, 2005, 04:27 AM
well used Multi - purpose Stadium , my Sister goes to alot of Concerts there , as well as Stock Cars etc , will be a large structure though when the roof goes on , would be pretty noisey though !

Anyways this one will add to the Maze of Apartments at the Mount , due for completion early 2006 , this Architect has a few more Cars to play with LOLhttp://photos.harcourts.co.nz/MMOS/05/MMOS050205_custom.jpg :)

harris_tweed
February 13th, 2005, 07:22 AM
Hi there Marky Mark & all you Kiwis!! Couldnt find a welcome lounge so will say hi here!!

Marky Mark
February 13th, 2005, 08:33 AM
Harris Tweed , Welcome to Kiwiscrapers ! You are sure to recieve a welcome free Milo and a bonus gift from Tom Boy at some Stage !
So Good to have a local Member , hopefully ya can keep us more up to date with the local news better than me from this side of the Tasman , though I reckon I do a pretty good Job if I don't say so Myself .
Okay first question ,Is the Traffic as bad as the Media reports ? LOL :)

flyin_higher
February 13th, 2005, 09:34 PM
Nice to have you on KiwiScrapers Harris! Another Tauranga member eh? While yes, Marky mark is doing a great job with the area at the moment, im sure he won't mind some 'front line' help ;)

Marky Mark
February 13th, 2005, 11:57 PM
First Story - Developers of Trinity Wharf Hotel Apartment complex will anounce which Hotel Chain will operate the second stage of the complex Shortly , I'm sure the Hotel Stage will be 9 Levels and the following Render only shows the apartment section at 3 levels .

http://www.citynews.co.nz/

Second Story is like Wow ! for Papamoa , two large Apartment complexes were announced a couple of weeks back and now Bluehaven Holdings are proposing a 7 level mixed use complex in Papamoa East ! :)

http://www.citynews.co.nz/news/local_news.php

flyin_higher
February 14th, 2005, 01:01 AM
Wow, Tauranga continues to impress!

atkinson1
February 14th, 2005, 03:23 AM
Is this place only 2 hours and 45 minutes from Auckland?

Marky Mark
February 14th, 2005, 04:06 AM
you haven't officially welcomed Harris Tweed , posted earlier in thread , nobody is completely registered until they get a Milo LOl :)

harris_tweed
February 14th, 2005, 11:50 AM
Thanks for the welcome all.... !! Still waitin for that milo, must be available in a cafe somewhere in town??!! Traffic wow!! yes!! its gettin worse every year alright - but of course local knowledge sure comes in handy - like dont go anywhere near the bridge - expressway - cameron road to the bridge - or hewletts road after 4pm on thursdays or fridays. I mean i too have lived in places like Auckland (yuk) & Melbourne & they are far worse, but like livin anywhere where its a "challenge" to get around, ya just get on with it!!

Marky Mark
February 14th, 2005, 12:05 PM
Yes Cameron Road has always been a nightmare LOL Hmmmmmmmm do ya reckon they are going to get that Harbour Bridge extension under way this year or do you reckon with all the scraping about the tolls probaly next ?
Sorry about all the questions LOL and have you heard if the Novotel has got through Planning yet , have been watching on a Web Cam to see if anything is happening on site , nothing yet ! Last I heard they hadn't allowed enough parking and were having to add another level of parking under the Building . :cheers:

atkinson1
February 15th, 2005, 04:32 AM
welcome harris tweed!! awesome to have you on board. here's your inaugural milo and a mellow puff! i don't look at this thread much lol.

Marky Mark
February 16th, 2005, 06:29 AM
What a Cutie ! Papamoa's first Apartment Block completed :)
New projects ANNOUNCED are much Larger , and most like thiis one will have Retail on ground Level .
In five years or sooner the Tauranga district will have three Skylines , Tauranga CBD , Mt Maunganui and Papamoa ! :)

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/virtour003/01/PP228801-1.jpg

flyin_higher
February 16th, 2005, 08:55 AM
From a planning perspective, i note the context of that apartment block, and how it has put carparking at the front, along a narrow sidewalk. Not very good really. Hopefully they will be doing something a bit better next time.

Marky Mark
February 16th, 2005, 09:41 AM
The parking at the front is for the retail on the bottom level , each Apartment on the remaining floors has two car garages at the rear of the Building > :) http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/ILS/75/325475-1.jpg

flyin_higher
February 16th, 2005, 08:17 PM
No, you are missing what im saying.

Marky Mark
February 16th, 2005, 10:09 PM
time Flying Higher could you maybe post an example of a well planned Parking area , that would suit this situation ?

Tauranga's news of the day , New Zealand's first Floating Pontoon Restuarant about to open . The CBD waterfront is certainly going to be attraction and entertainment mecca once further developments planned become reality ! :)

http://www.citynews.co.nz/

Marky Mark
February 18th, 2005, 12:06 AM
Another and better Render of the Custom House Apartment Complex at Mt Maunganui , will be interesting to see how they sell away from the Beach !

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/KINBAYL001/90/282890-3.jpg

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/KINBAYL001/90/282890-2.jpg :)

Marky Mark
February 21st, 2005, 01:50 AM
Economic Growth and Building Consents Soar ! :) http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3624873&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

Marky Mark
February 22nd, 2005, 03:05 AM
LOL not the most Popular Name I Guess , the two middle Apartments are for Sale , only $2.8 Million each !http://photos.harcourts.co.nz/MMOS/05/MMOS050213_custom.jpg :)

flyin_higher
February 22nd, 2005, 03:27 AM
Yeah not the best name (who would live there now? lol).

Marky Mark
February 23rd, 2005, 01:31 AM
Render of the Navigator Apartments to be built at Papamoa , they are designed more for permanent Living rather than Holiday apartments , again the bottom level is Retail and offices ! :)

http://photos.harcourts.co.nz/MMPO/50/MMPO50220_custom.jpg

KingKong1
February 24th, 2005, 08:24 AM
LOL not the most Popular Name I Guess , the two middle Apartments are for Sale , only $2.8 Million each !http://photos.harcourts.co.nz/MMOS/05/MMOS050213_custom.jpg :)
looks 70's like, whoever's in charge at Papamoa should be :bash: cos that is heiness

sam_L
February 24th, 2005, 08:39 AM
That 60's/70's one i pretty cool i think. Atleast it's different to all the other developments.

Marky Mark
February 25th, 2005, 03:11 AM
looks like something out of the Jetsons LOL

here's some sad news , only 15 Kiwi's left in the Western Bay of Plenty !
Will the kiwi eventually become extinct in its natural Habitat ? not looking too good .http://www.citynews.co.nz/archives/archive_details.php?chkMain=0&unique_id=2938

flyin_higher
February 25th, 2005, 03:26 AM
Thats not good news at all.

Marky Mark
February 27th, 2005, 05:17 AM
Tauranga suburbs are spreading , though its not hard when the Harbour is so widely spread out ! Smarth growth staff are currently surveying residents to question whether the Burbs should keep on spreading or whether they should be contained , which in turn would cause the development of more high density Housing .Hmmm good or Bad ? :) http://content.tauranga.govt.nz/articles/19ec213688a248d3b5c9f673fc7168de/images/A02_small.JPG

flyin_higher
February 28th, 2005, 03:47 AM
Smart Growth under the new Urbanist principles, which creates walkable, medium desity communities, is a good idea for Tauranga to pursue.

sam_L
February 28th, 2005, 09:48 AM
I agree. I'm voting for medium density housing too. Otherwise it's just going to create another sprawling Auckland with big traffic problems.

SkylineTurbo
February 28th, 2005, 11:29 AM
Are there going to be any developments on Matakana Island? Or is it under protection?

Marky Mark
February 28th, 2005, 12:06 PM
as far as I know , none , and I would hate to see it developed ! I think the Island is a mixture of Maori Land , protected reserves and pine Forest . There are small groups of houses here and there , and a Saw Mill with little else .
Also the best Surf Beaches , will have to research a bit , I do know its 24 KLM
long and is the largest Barrier Island in New Zealand !

http://pdmossop.tripod.com/photos/nz/xmas2002/themount_006_s.jpg

By the way Blackadder do you hold the world record yet for the most Posts ? :)

flyin_higher
February 28th, 2005, 12:45 PM
Nah, I think there is some other guy with like 10,000 posts or something..

Marky Mark
February 28th, 2005, 11:44 PM
closer to Starting , here's a silly question , whats the main difference between an Polytech and a University ? :) http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3625774&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=

Marky Mark
March 1st, 2005, 07:46 AM
of Devonport Towers with some of the completed Waterfront Recreation area showing !

http://www.realenz.co.nz/photos/ILS/56/208356-2.jpg

sam_L
March 1st, 2005, 08:38 AM
50 posts a day is pretty impressive though. That must be some sort of record.

That Devonport Towers is looking good... alot like Nautalis in Orewa from first impressions.

SkylineTurbo
March 1st, 2005, 09:51 AM
as far as I know , none , and I would hate to see it developed ! I think the Island is a mixture of Maori Land , protected reserves and pine Forest . There are small groups of houses here and there , and a Saw Mill with little else .
Also the best Surf Beaches , will have to research a bit , I do know its 24 KLM
long and is the largest Barrier Island in New Zealand !

http://pdmossop.tripod.com/photos/nz/xmas2002/themount_006_s.jpg

By the way Blackadder do you hold the world record yet for the most Posts ? :)
Thank you very much, maybe the highest post per day count?

I had a friend who recently said about Tauranga's population boom, that an extention of the current airport would be needed, but said that the runway cannot be extended long enough to handle say the Beoing 767, and said Matakana Island is the most suitiable area for a new airport, but I just needed to inquire about the island. Thanks anyway.

flyin_higher
March 1st, 2005, 11:56 AM
Good pic find Marky Mark!

Marky Mark
March 1st, 2005, 09:52 PM
construction of this complex should be starting soon , will be built beside the Beaumont Tower along the Main Beach , have noticed two more complexes in Planning awaiting final Consent , another for the Mt and the other a mixed use complex for Papamoa :) http://images.ljhooker.co.nz/PROPERTY/pictures/00401077.JPG

sam_L
March 2nd, 2005, 05:11 AM
The development just keep on coming! I wonder when the first true highrise will pop up...

Marky Mark
March 2nd, 2005, 10:55 AM
can't see any super Highrises for years to come , the highest for now will be on the city side of the Harbour at around 16 levels such as Devonport Towers .
Along the Beach from Mt Maunganui to Papamoa , you won't see anything over 12 levels , there is no way the locals would put up with the Beaches covered in Shade for half the day like Surfers , which I think is a good thing !

The area will continue to grow and may become NZs fourth largest city , but that is between 10 - 20 years away . Although Hamilton still has a constant growth rate and is a nice Backup for an population overflow from Auckland .
Depends alot on immigration from overseas as well :) :cheers:

SkylineTurbo
March 2nd, 2005, 11:08 AM
For New Zealand's fastest growing city, Tauranga should expand horizontally more now, to expand the city, if Tauranga had a lack of space, then you'd see some highrises. But I do hope Tauranga receives some in the next say 25 years.

flyin_higher
March 2nd, 2005, 01:57 PM
But Tauranga is folowing its new Smart Growth plan which encourages development to be dense(ish), with apartments etc, as opposed to blatant sprawl.

SkylineTurbo
March 3rd, 2005, 01:30 AM
^ Yes, so if Tauranga had sprawled and were constructing motorways, it would have similar problems with Auckland, i.e too much time to travel through the city.

flyin_higher
March 3rd, 2005, 02:32 PM
what are u talking about? Tauranga IS building motorways and sprawling, despite the Smart growth plan, lol.