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New Jack City
August 14th, 2004, 11:27 PM
The Business Journal

Tower to test height limits

By Susan Stabley
South Florida Business Journal
Updated: 8:00 p.m. ET Aug. 15, 2004

The latest addition to the luxury tower lineup in downtown Miami promises to become the tallest of its kind at 700 feet.

"We are not trying to be taller than anybody. We just want to give Miami a great design," said developer Pedro Martin of his 900 Biscayne Bay.

But the development may be too tall, as far as Miami International Airport is concerned, if it rises too high into the flight paths of planes.

The mixed-use luxury condominium was designed by Miami architect Luis Revuelta.

The 781-foot-high Four Seasons Hotel and Tower on Brickell Avenue, completed last year, holds the record as the tallest structure south of Atlanta and the tallest residential tower south of New York City. In downtown Miami, the Wachovia Financial Center, built in 1984, comes in second at 764 feet.

The development on the 1.72-acre property at 900 Biscayne Blvd. is slated to rise across from Bicentennial Park, marked for transformation into Museum Park Miami, the future home for grander facilities for the city's art, science and historical institutions.

But according to a June 17 letter from the county's aviation department, the property is located in the path where planes approach Miami International Airport. The project exceeds the maximum allowable height of 650 feet established by a county ordinance.

City ordinances must be consistent with airport regulations, said Alberto J. Torres, assistant director for zoning for the Miami-Dade County Department of Planning and Zoning. Miami has jurisdiction over the property because it falls within city limits.

Last month, Miami city commissioners approved a major use special permit, known as a MUSP.

"Typically, a developer submits an application for determination of 'no hazard' after the MUSP is approved," said Greenberg Traurig attorney Gloria Velazquez, who represented the MUSP application for 900 Biscayne Bay.

Under the FAA's watch

The Federal Aviation Administration eyes all structures taller than 200 feet.

"An airspace study will be required with two possible determinations - hazard or no hazard," spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said. "Our role is to insure aviation safety."

The 900 Biscayne Bay project is not listed in FAA databases yet, she said.

FAA regulations have blocked projects before in South Florida.

In 2000, Mapei, an Italian company, canceled a planned 420-foot tower at McNab Road and I-95 in Pompano Beach that was within three miles of Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport.

Dezer Development's Trump Palace and Trump Royale oceanfront luxury condos in Sunny Isles Beach were capped at 549 feet.

The proposed 65-story 900 Biscayne Bay would offer 10-foot ceilings, instead of the typical nine, Martin said. Many details are still being worked out, but he expects each floor to offer eight to 10 units.

The structure would use 83,579 square feet of commercial, office and retail space as a pedestal, boosting views for its 516 units.

The $364 million project would also offer 1,114 parking spaces and generate about $1.97 million in tax revenue annually, city documents show.

The president of Terra Adi International Developers and a Greenberg Traurig real estate attorney, Martin also developed Quantum on the Bay in downtown Miami and Metropolis at Dadeland.

"We already sold out most of the building," he said, adding that he has 10 percent deposits on 350 out of 516 units. He expects to convert reservations into contracts in September.

south florida dave
August 14th, 2004, 11:43 PM
wow, now that's interesting news. i knew it would be tall, but not that tall. and the cost is $364 million?! sounds like the developer is planning something along the lines of the four seasons tower. interesting.

now, as far as the height issue, i thought the area where it's being built had no height restrictions. apparently it does. so i guess the only area that has no restrictions whatsoever is the area around the wachovia tower. if that's the case, it may be a long time, if ever, that we see a true supertall down here.

thanks for posting this, savethewtc.

MIAballinboi
August 15th, 2004, 05:57 AM
I HATE THE FAA!

i cant beleive them they wanna downgrade everything!

the 4 seasons was supposed to be 100 feet taller, its so b/s wats 50 feet gonna make a difference 2 a plane flying at thousands of feet

hopefully the faa will lose this time :bash:

Agent Orange
August 15th, 2004, 07:50 AM
This really sucks. The FAA has killed so many cool projects across the country, or at least downgraded them. And Miami really deserves at least a 300 meter.

New Jack City
August 17th, 2004, 06:48 AM
So the version seen at:

http://www.900biscaynebay.com/

Will be the design, or will we see a redesign/modifications?

south florida dave
August 17th, 2004, 07:58 AM
^there hasn't been a whole lot of info about this project, at least not that i've seen. as far as i know the renderings from the website are the final renderings. hopefully there will be a little more info given between now & when the tower starts going up.

doesn't really look like a 750 ft tower from those renderings, though, does it?

Sunstorm
August 18th, 2004, 07:36 PM
The FAA strikes again!! :rant:

Maybe it will get built at 700' anyway. I've heard of the FAA making allowances for height on occasion. Maybe if the developers bitch enough about having to make changes to their building to accomodate the height decrease the FAA might back down (it's just 50'). Then again, maybe not. We all know how the FAA is.

Jasonhouse
August 18th, 2004, 08:23 PM
Hieghts limits several miles from the airport are lame. Like really lame.

smiley
August 18th, 2004, 08:52 PM
Umm, I actually think they make sense especially when just downfield from the runway. You need space for apporaches, departures and, especially - waving off - which I have seen in Tampa a number of times and, when it happens, particlarly close to the runway - will freak you out quite a bit. Nothing like an L-1011 whipping to one side about 100 feet off the ground and over a highway to wake you up in the morning.

MIAballinboi
August 18th, 2004, 10:52 PM
hopefully the faa will back down this one,

*hopefully*

Dale
August 18th, 2004, 10:58 PM
I'm for unlimited building heights. That and replacing current airline stock with retooled C-130's, which can whip down and land on less than 3,000 ft. of runway.

What ?

The Mad Hatter!!
December 11th, 2004, 07:03 PM
airlines should just use harrier jets land vertically take off vertically

BHK24
December 11th, 2004, 11:23 PM
well that sucks big time. don't they have better things to do? damn faa.

bubbagump
December 19th, 2004, 04:02 PM
Least your not like us here in Orlando where our tallest building is only 441ft tall! For an executive airport! :bash:

nimbyhater
December 19th, 2004, 06:27 PM
uptown, harriers have a higher death per flight ratio than any other plane in the world, i gues physics is workin against em on that one, something about using a big fan to push urself off the ground as opposed to smoothly running rreally fast forward, just dont compare, lol

would solve all our problems tho, wats a dozen more deaths a year, we want taller scrapers dammit!

ChuckScraperMiami#1
December 20th, 2004, 05:18 AM
True Street :)

ChuckScraperMiami#1
December 20th, 2004, 06:22 AM
well that sucks big time. don't they have better things to do? damn faa.
TRUE BHK :) ,,,,,the FAA :bash: Really Sucks :cheers: