Stockholm projects [Archive] - Page 2

Insane alex

April 9th, 2005, 04:47 PM

New projects

Gärdesbacken, Gärdet

http://bostad.jm.se/DynamicImage/DynamicImage.aspx?imageurl=/upload/6372/Claodiosbildwebb.jpg&maxwidth=351&id=3225

-71 apartments.

-Completion 2007.

Lidingö, Mården

http://bostad.jm.se/DynamicImage/DynamicImage.aspx?imageurl=/upload/Bildilustratfasadwebb.jpg&maxwidth=164&id=3290

-61 apartments.

-Completion winter 2006.

Telefonplan, Midsommarkransen

http://bostad.jm.se/DynamicImage/DynamicImage.aspx?imageurl=/upload/Tellus_web.jpg&maxwidth=351&id=3116

-400 apartments.

-Construction start, 1 quater in 2006.

Lillängen, Nacka, 2nd phase

http://bostad.jm.se/DynamicImage/DynamicImage.aspx?imageurl=/upload/6072/lillangen_exterior_050303_webb.png&maxwidth=351&id=3130

-50 apartments.

-Completion: Spring 2006.

-2nd Phase of recently completed 35 apartments.

Ringvägen, Saltsjöbaden

http://bostad.jm.se/DynamicImage/DynamicImage.aspx?imageurl=/upload/6235/7569_akvarell_a4.png&maxwidth=351&id=3177

-64 apartments.

-Completion winter 2006.

-Its a Part of a project with 135 apartments.

wolkenkrabber

April 9th, 2005, 09:20 PM

the core of the hotel at älvsjömässan has rose like 4 sloor or smthn, i saw it today and Ringil took a pic i'll ask him to post it

Ringil

April 9th, 2005, 09:23 PM

http://www.alltomtradgard.se/forum/albums2/full/5437_1113074034_S3000005.JPG
you mean this one i guess

solbyair

April 9th, 2005, 10:10 PM

Yeah, the latest high rise projects in Stockholm are great,

though,

I find it quite funny they are building Sweden´s highest high rise in Malmö.

A such building could lift the whole region. Look at Turning Torso and all PR it has got from abroad for its unique design. The latest news is that it even had won a prize for being the best project.

Maybe the plans for Scandinavian Tower can be recycled in Stockholm? It could perhaps even be placed next to Kaknästornet, making a "little tower" and "the big tower" placed next to each other.

But, I forgot, "Nationalstadsparken" makes it almost impossible for any form of development on new spaces in Stockholm. But then, they could tear down some of those pesky and depressive office complexes at Sergels torg, making way for real high rise development in Stockholm.

Anyways, if they have to develop high rises, it should be much higher than "Hötorgsskraporna".

Dysfunctional

April 10th, 2005, 10:19 AM

solbyair - Yes, I agree that those low-rise buildings from that area should go! That's about the only place where a nice high-rise skyline could lighten the view.

Swede

April 10th, 2005, 02:30 PM

While I agree that those not-so-nice 60s office buildings would be nicelly replaced by modern high-rises I just don't see it happening. The anti-skyscraper movement is too strong when it comes to the Inner City. And most green areas are, as you point out, protected in one way or another. This leaves us with already developed areas in the 'burbs (and places like Nordvästra Kungsholmen). You'll find that that's were almost all the projects in this thread are.
I cen see possible future clusters at Kista (duh;)), Älvsjö & Solna.

Insane alex

April 10th, 2005, 08:11 PM

U/C Update 10/4

Hammarby Sjöstad

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914743ee3a0200000016109AaNGTJk3bW
Kv.Forsen and Kv. Vågskalpet.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914740537a2600000016109AaNGTJk3bW
The new sports center at Kv. Vågskalpet

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce9147404b7a3e00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914740e4fba100000016109AaNGTJk3bW
One of Sjöstadsportens office buildiings. There will be a ''tower'' of 12 to 13 stories tall.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914740defb9b00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914740bf7aca00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://www.fastigheter.skanska.se/files/graphics/Fastighetsbilder%20nya%20hemsidan/Header/Sjstad.jpg

http://www.fastigheter.skanska.se/files/graphics/projekt/sjostadsporten/hammarby.jpg
The tower.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce9147417d3a9000000016109AaNGTJk3bW
Hammarby Gård. Demolition almost completed.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce9147416f3a8200000016109AaNGTJk3bW
Hammarby Gård

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce9147416ebbb300000016109AaNGTJk3bW
An unknown building U/C in Kölnan.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce91474120bbfd00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914741073aea00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914741cabb1700000016109AaNGTJk3bW
New project right at front of Luma.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914741bebb6300000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce91474671fb3700000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce9147466e7a1800000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce91474625fb6300000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce91474611fb5700000016109AaNGTJk3bW
Kv. Maltet in the bakground.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914746887afe00000016109AaNGTJk3bW
Kv. Maltet

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914747723a9c00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914747ac3a4200000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce9147476a3a8400000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce91474781bb5f00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914744717a0600000016109AaNGTJk3bW

Bonus Updates

Lillängen, Nacka

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce9147437bbba700000016109AaNGTJk3bW
The first phase. Nothing special.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914743443aa800000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914743e3bb3f00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914743523abe00000016109AaNGTJk3bW
This is where the second phase will be constructed. The second phase consists of 50 apartments for seniors.

Järla Sjö

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce91474343bb9f00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce9147431bbbc700000016109AaNGTJk3bW

Sickla Allé, Sickla, Nacka

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce91474050fb1500000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce9147402efb6b00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5da31b3127cce914740e8fbad00000016109AaNGTJk3bW

That's it for today! I might go to liljeholmen and Finnboda next weekend to take pictures. So be prepared ;)! Comments and questions are appriciated.

Mantas

April 10th, 2005, 08:22 PM

Thanks for the update :okay:

Insane alex

April 10th, 2005, 09:43 PM

You are very welcome! :)

Pelle

May 2nd, 2005, 11:16 AM

New one!!
:)
Brommaplan
16 floors/58 apartments
http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/upload/@förstasida_puff_160/Tjoget-persp50.jpg

Pelle

May 2nd, 2005, 12:00 PM

The office building in Hammarby Sjöstad developt by Skanska - Sjöstadsporten, is NOT U/C.
What we se U/C in the pictures below is apartments built by Svenska Bostäder.

Insane alex

May 2nd, 2005, 12:58 PM

The office building in Hammarby Sjöstad developt by Skanska - Sjöstadsporten, is NOT U/C.
What we se U/C in the pictures below is apartments built by Svenska Bostäder.

Do you have a source? I would like to see it! :) If it isn't the office building´, then i am quiet curious on what the ''apartments look like on the outside.

Pelle

May 2nd, 2005, 02:14 PM

Sorry, no rendering found.
here's a link when they starded the construction.
Svebo (http://www.svebo.se/aktuellt/pressmeddelanden.asp?id=107)
Source?? What about a big sign on the construction site???

DnH

May 15th, 2005, 03:37 PM

thought you'd like to see some pics of the new "tingvallaparken" in Märsta, 3 miles north of Stockholm City..

Sigtuna Kommun is one of the areas in Stockholm that grows the most.. several proposals and constructions is going on... In Sigtuna mostly detached houses, and in Märsta mostly 3/4 floor building with innercity style... mostly for rent.

SORRY FOR THE BIG PICTURES, COULDNT RESIZE THEM... ni får stå ut :)

This is what this place used to look like.. it was a vacant lot.
http://tingvallaparken.mine.nu/Image/Tingvalla2/DSCF4746.JPG
http://tingvallaparken.mine.nu/Image/Tingvalla2/DSCF4752.JPG
http://tingvallaparken.mine.nu/Image/Tingvalla2/pict0815.jpg

a lil later:
http://tingvallaparken.mine.nu/Image/Tingvalla2/2.JPG
http://tingvallaparken.mine.nu/Image/Tingvalla2/rel2/DSCF4939.JPG
http://tingvallaparken.mine.nu/Image/Tingvalla2/rel2/DSCF4940.JPG http://tingvallaparken.mine.nu/Image/Tingvalla2/rel7/pict0978.jpg http://tingvallaparken.mine.nu/Image/Tingvalla2/rel8/pict1034.jpg http://tingvallaparken.mine.nu/Image/Tingvalla2/rel8/pict1054.jpg

oh.. and heres a lil' bonus pic my mother took..
you can see the new construction going on to the left..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/Adido/PICT0191.jpg

Dysfunctional

May 17th, 2005, 06:11 PM

Hviid

May 17th, 2005, 06:25 PM

I don't know if you've looked in the last page of today's Metro (the newspaper) but there's a new high rise planned and approved and going U/C tomorrow. It will have 16 floors and will be 52 meters tall.
http://diapix.diakrit.com/4DAction/GetPic/3270411300849149$271-210

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=184002
http://www.veidekkebostad.com/
Is that the only picture of it?
I'm not too fund of the design.. sort of boring.. but it's also a pretty bad/small picture .. so I'm not really sure...

Geex

May 17th, 2005, 06:39 PM

We need better renders! It could be a very nice high-rise and facade seem's to be completely out of glass.

Dysfunctional

May 17th, 2005, 08:39 PM

Is that the only picture of it?
I'm not too fund of the design.. sort of boring.. but it's also a pretty bad/small picture .. so I'm not really sure...

I got the picture from http://www.veidekkebostad.com , it seems like there are more but i can't get them. In Metro there was a better picture, bigger and close-up, but I can't scan it since my scanner is busted. I looked a bit for better pics but, alas, to no avail.

Swede

May 18th, 2005, 03:26 PM

Dysfunctional

May 18th, 2005, 11:53 PM

Read about that one last summer (hence it being on Emporis), but it being u/c so soon is news :) Noy exactlly a central location or all that tall but... the views towards the city from the top floors :drool:

Well, for sweden 52 meters is pretty good :) Probably the "tower" will be visible as part of the Stockholm skyline as seen from Lidingö, where I live. From there you can see most of the high-rises in the city + Kista Science Tower.

It's supposed to be located by Svea Artilleri but I don't know where that is. :dunno:

wolkenkrabber

May 19th, 2005, 12:01 AM

i did not really get the location of that scraper, i take it that is stands in or by värtahamnen since it has good views of the inntercity and prolly will be visible from lidingö

kjetilab

May 19th, 2005, 01:11 AM

A small question to the Stockhomare here(or anyone updated on what's going on in Stockholm)
I'm sorry for not having read thorugh the entire thread but my question is this: Are there any news on a planned, (under construction???) hotel in Stockholm with over 500 rooms? Or is that the Rica hotel thing?

The reason for asking is that it's the same hotelking-character-person behind that one as is behind a planned hotel in Drammen, Norway, http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=4096833&postcount=59

He also had plans for the gigantic Scandinavian tower, or something like that, a hotel 350(!!!) metres tall in Malmö. (That hotel ended up 45 metres tall eventually..)

wolkenkrabber

May 19th, 2005, 02:59 AM

look in the hotel at älvsjömässan (webcam) thread and you can see how far they have came

Moolio

May 19th, 2005, 12:32 PM

http://diapix.diakrit.com/4DAction/GetPic/3270411300849149$271-210
This looks pretty unique. Is it a round-shaped tower, or am just imagining things? I'd love to see that in Tikkurila district in Vantaa, it would fit there perfectly.

DnH

June 11th, 2005, 05:32 PM

there will be 75.700 new apartments in Stockholm Metro..

Swede

June 11th, 2005, 06:37 PM

DN article in Swedish (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=426461&previousRenderType=2)
click on the Rörlig Grafik and Grafik links ffor graphics of the developments.

Would that be where you got your info from? ;)
/75k over the next 5 years.

DnH

June 11th, 2005, 11:54 PM

yes, i read it in the paper version :)

great news..

ch1le

June 12th, 2005, 12:33 AM

75 000 new apartments ay ? that 9 MIO sqm of residential space... you will need thousands of TT's

Dysfunctional

June 26th, 2005, 02:28 AM

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=432365&previousRenderType=6

Dagens Nyheter reports that the construction of 18330 apartments in Stockholm is threatened by noise pollution.

Swede

June 26th, 2005, 10:40 AM

^read some of that article earlier. New legislation about the allowed levels of noise-pollution in new residential units is throwing a wrench in the machinery of basically all new projects in the planning stage in Sthlm. What really is f*cking things up is that the max noise level (65 decibel) is to be calculated with the windows open. So no matter how much you use modern technology to reduce noise, it isn't going to work. Never mind that with proper ventilation systems (aka ac) you never need to open your windows...
Seriously, if they can build new high-end residential towers just a block away from the Manhattan Bridge (if you thought Centralbron was noisy...), why not an appartment building in Vällingby???

Dysfunctional

June 27th, 2005, 09:50 AM

...if they can build new high-end residential towers just a block away from the Manhattan Bridge (if you thought Centralbron was noisy...), why not an appartment building in Vällingby???
Because in sweden five floors are considered high-rise :tongue3: and a brige may very well be five storeys tall. No, I can't understand the urban planning in Stockholm.

Swede

June 27th, 2005, 12:37 PM

5? more like 3-4 :p
In this case it's not so much urban planning as a total lack of insight at Boverket.

More news on this issue:
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=432718&previousRenderType=6
Länsstyrelsen avslår Vägverkets överklagande av Stockholms stads planer att bygga bostäder nära Essingeleden på nordvästra Kungsholmen.
...
Ett byggförbud skulle också medföra en större spridning av staden och därmed en ökad bilism. Det skulle få negativa konsekvenser för miljön.
...
Enligt stadens bullerberäkningar kommer riktvärdena för buller inomhus på 30 dB(A) att klaras i samtliga lägenheter.

So the county greenlighted the development a new development despite the new rules. The noise levels indoors will be fine (unless you open the windows) and the demand for new housing in Sthlm is why they oked it.
The decision is likelly to be appealed to the national level tho, so that's another few months...

Swede

June 27th, 2005, 10:27 PM

More fun from DN (http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=432625&previousRenderType=1):
Handelskammaren vill [...] En utbyggnad av tunnelbanan från Akalla till Barkarby, en ny pendeltågsgren från Solna till Arninge i norra delen av Täby kommun och snabbspårvägen från Alvik mot Kista och Solna.
In English:
The Sthlm chamber of comerce wants more rail-infrastructure investments in Sthlm. Spedifically: new commuter-rail branch, extention of the blue subway line one/two station northwards and many km south-eastwards, (big news) not extending the LRT thru the Western/Northern 'burbs but rather building new subway lines along the planned routes.

I'm all for all of this - if there was money for it. But there ain't. Some of it could be built if we ditch some plans for new rail-lines in the vast unpopulated north of the country (locals up there say it's fair, but seriously - more ppl live in metro Sthlm than all of Norrland).

Dysfunctional

June 28th, 2005, 09:15 PM

I'm all for all of this - if there was money for it. But there ain't. Some of it could be built if we ditch some plans for new rail-lines in the vast unpopulated north of the country (locals up there say it's fair, but seriously - more ppl live in metro Sthlm than all of Norrland).

OMG this always pisses me off so bad. Why does Stockholm pay these huge piles of money to the northern parts of Sweden where there are no people and (as I understand) real unemployment is like 25% if not 50%. Now, instead of draining the areas that actually make profits for the goverment the money should be re-invested.
What I hate the most, tough, is that the state taxes you both by area and income, forcing, in some cases, the not-so-fortunate to move away from high-income areas. Also there is the matter of the property taxes which, instead of taxing the rich, seeing as how they can afford it, result in low-income families that also are home-owners by hard work or inheritance have to sell their homes.

wolkenkrabber

June 28th, 2005, 10:20 PM

Ya lets de-poplate norrland to get more forest plantation and wilde life toursit centres so the samii ppl can live free and we get more skiiresorts!!
well that might not be all too good, but i agree on that he "robin hood tax" aint too good

Parzival

June 30th, 2005, 01:00 AM

For my fellow swedes.

From "skönhets-rådet"

Ang Stadens skönhet

Tack för ditt brev.

Du skrivet till rådet angående skyskrapeprojekt – att det finns en rad spännande förslag i övriga Europa och i Sverige men att Stockholm inte verkar vilja förändra sig. Du har som förslag att byta en del av de befintliga husen i City mot nya och fräscha skyskrapor och refererar till Madrid, London, Frankfurt, Rotterdam, Amsterdam m.fl. Du påpekar även att rådet motsatt sig skyskraps-projekt och undrar varför vi godkänner en skyskrapa i Kista där du anser att den inte platsar in.

Utöver det förslag för ett högt bostadstorn vid Sergels torg som existerade som idé i Sergels torgs-debatten i slutet av 1990-talet (för den plats där ”Muttern” låg och som nu istället blir en ny tunnelbanenedgång), har under senare år inte något högt hus i innerstaden prövats. Anledningen till det är helt enkelt att ingen byggherre visat något intresse för att uppföra ett högre hus i innerstaden. Någon ledig tomtyta finns inte och ekonomiska skäl att riva och bygga nytt har inte förelegat.

I det fall ett högre hus faktiskt har uppförts i staden – ”Söder torn” – blev rådet som remissintstans tillfrågat i detaljplane- och bygglovsprövningen. I detaljplaneförslaget hade stadsbyggnadskontoret ritat två alternativ till hög byggnad. Efter omröstning valde rådet att förespråka det något lägre förslaget, det som också uppfördes. Rådet ansåg dock att byggnaden borde ha givits en mindre volym för att motverka att det skulle upplevas som ”stubbigt”.

Att rådet godkänt högre hus i Kista, Älvsjö, Bromma och nu senast Södra Hammarbyhamnen beror på att bra förslag har visats rådet. Förslag till höga hus som har som avsikt att realiseras efter det att en byggherre kontaktat stadsbyggnadskontoret och begärt en ny detaljplan som tillåter en byggnad med högre höjd än vad som är brukligt. Rådet har då som en av flera remissintstanser lämnat utlåtanden till stadsbyggnadskontoret som sammanställer förslaget till ett planförslag som stadsbyggnadsnämnden antar eller förkastar.

Du anser att skyskrapor inte passar i ytterstaden. Där har rådet dock en annan åsikt. Vi har i Stockholm en lång tradition av byggande av höga hus i ytterstaden, naturligtvis inte bara ”miljonprogrammets” bostadsområden utan även de som präglades av ”ABC-tanken” (Arbete, Bostad, Centrum) under 1950-talet. Här finns ofta en centrumkärna i stadsdelarna som kantas av en krans med riktigt höga hus, sedan faller skalan till skivhus/smalhus, radhus och villor, jmf Vällingby, Blackeberg, Farsta, Årsta.

I likhet med Paris, som också har en välhållen innerstadskärna, har Stockholm valt att växa på höjden i ytterstaden. Att satsa på ny arkitektur i Kista skulle med internationella referenser på så sätt kunna mätas med Paris/La Defense. Med de normer för ljusförhållanden och bostadsstandard som finns i Sverige kräver de höga byggnaderna också ett avsevärt avstånd mellan sig för att dagsljus ska kunna nå bottenvåningarna. En tät stadskärna med skyskrapor, som på Manhattan, kan därför inte bli möjlig i Stockholm – inte heller i Kista.

Det är på stadsbyggnadskontoret diskussionen om stadens tillväxt förs i egentlig mening. Du bör därför vända dig till dem för att föra ett samtal om din upplevelse av City som grått och fult och för att diskutera fler skyskrapor i innerstaden.

Sims

June 30th, 2005, 05:33 PM

As I hate to admit it, they're right on a couple of points.
Nobody would like to work in an office which is never even touched by the rays of sunlight.. Just think how low the sun stands at noon in the middle of January.
New Yorkers and their Manhattan are on the same latitude as Rome, Italy.
Us Stocktowners on the other hand have our beloved city on the same latitude as God Håb, The Southern tip of Greenland... :(
(Thank God for the Gulf stream!!)

Tho' I think another model of clusters would make it possible. After all, howcome Moscow is tryin?

Swede

July 1st, 2005, 10:00 AM

Well, Moskva is kinda south (~level with CPH).
I work in an office that doesn't get any direct sunlight thanks to the narrow alleys of Gamla Stan. It's fine by me, tho not sure I'd accept it if it was in a new part of town.
As for not getting any new tall ones in the Inner City, that's to be expected IMO. Just outside it tho (Liljeholmen, Hammarby, NV Kungsholmen, ...) are ideal locations especially if there is good mass-transit.
/Manhattanization is what I want!

Parzival

July 1st, 2005, 02:03 PM

Well, yes.
But they can build the skyscrapers like Warsawa or the baltic countries. but is kind of strange that they ARE defeding the commie-blocks, they think it fits.

Swede

July 1st, 2005, 04:06 PM

^yeah, that bit doesn't make sense. It's as if they don't realize the commieblock is past us now and architecture has moved on. The commiblock really has ruined many peoples opinions on high-rises in Sthlm and the Hötorgsskrapor & Taxscraper don't help either. Hopefully the 4 towers on the waterfront in Liljeholmen will convince a few to the true faith ;)

Parzival

July 1st, 2005, 06:02 PM

Swede

July 1st, 2005, 08:06 PM

Yes, only two have gone thru the whole process. The other two are on their way and I'd say they're about 99% go. That they've been part of the redevlopment plan since the inception does bode well...

Dysfunctional

July 2nd, 2005, 12:16 PM

Swede - Actually Skatteskrapan is my favourite skyscraper in Stockholm :)

Sims

July 2nd, 2005, 12:46 PM

It might become my favourite, depending on how the renovations are carried out.. :D

Dysfunctional

July 3rd, 2005, 02:50 PM

It might become my favourite, depending on how the renovations are carried out.. :D

Actually, what is up with that, there's nothing going on over there. What's the plan?

DnH

July 4th, 2005, 03:33 PM

SHIT!!!! I HATE SWEDEN!"!!!!!

or not really but..... i read somewhere that a building project in Sthlm got cancelled cause it was over the "bullernivån", hehe... people had complained etc...
well thats city-life ffs!!!! you cant expect to live in the city and everything is silence
... i think the country-side is a better place for those ...

anyway.. im in spain now.. and i see constructions going on everywhere... im in a city on the east side right now... about 80 000 inhabitants... and the city actually feels as big as stockholm.....every city over here does...

omg..
i hope those old b*****s whos working with this quit their job soon... the youth should be the ones who decides what the city should look like since we are the ones whos gonna live in it in the future.....

Swede

July 4th, 2005, 03:51 PM

DnH

July 10th, 2005, 06:55 PM

^look at the last page, it's all there. It is Vägverket who are appealing against the new buildings since they think they'll be legally obligated to do something about the noise from the motorway that's causing the pollution (how do you do that - a motorway that doesn't make noise?).

:(

Anyone know of any constructions going on in the Metro?

Märsta (north of stockholm) just got to vote for what building they would like..

and im so fucking dissapointed..

we got to vote for either a 4-5 story residential rental-building..
or a same building - but a 12 story residential..

... of course the boring people who voted (i bet it was only old people), voted for the short one..

EITHER THIS: THE TALL ONe
http://www.sigtuna.se/attachments/3076.jpg

OR THIS : THE SMALL ONE (THIS ONE WON)
http://www.sigtuna.se/attachments/3081.jpg

Swede

July 10th, 2005, 07:04 PM

DnH

July 10th, 2005, 09:48 PM

but... the small one won't give any positive effects to the area at all. The tall one would havr ment noticably more people on the streets.
Personally I'm in favour of having all the buildings in that plan be 12+s tall.

That only the old people voted sounds very true, it's them what has time to spend and the attitude to opposing things like these, unfortunetly (of course, this doesn't go for everyone over 65, there are plenty of great pensioners - but I guess most of those don't care enough one way or the other to vote...)

Exactly..The "Centrum" area is very dead and almost like a ghosttown over here, which people have been complaining about for years... having a tall house next to it would show everybody that "over here is Centrum" .. kinda like Nacka..

And of course theres pensioners who are FOR highrises too... most of them seems to like a small town feeling tho.

DnH

July 17th, 2005, 02:48 PM

ok i dont have time to explain the projects etc..

BUT HERE ARE SOME NEW PROJECTS IN STOCKHOLM..

http://www.stockholm.se/files/92400-92499/file_92425.jpg

300 apartments
http://www.stockholm.se/files/92400-92499/file_92428.jpg

http://www.stockholm.se/files/91200-91299/file_91244.jpg
http://www.stockholm.se/files/91200-91299/file_91246.jpg
http://www.stockholm.se/files/90600-90699/file_90649.jpg
http://www.stockholm.se/files/87900-87999/file_87989.jpg

http://www.stockholm.se/files/85000-85099/file_85083.jpg

http://www.stockholm.se/files/93100-93199/file_93147.jpg

http://www.stockholm.se/files/93200-93299/file_93272.jpg
http://www.stockholm.se/files/93200-93299/file_93276.jpg
http://www.stockholm.se/files/93200-93299/file_93277.jpg
http://www.stockholm.se/files/93200-93299/file_93281.jpg
http://www.stockholm.se/files/91500-91599/file_91579.jpg
http://www.stockholm.se/files/91600-91699/file_91633.jpg

Ringil

July 17th, 2005, 03:26 PM

read in DI that H&M has decided to build a new head quarter on Drottninggatan, but sadly no highrise. The new headquarter will include a big H&M store, also read that Drottninggatan will be reconstructed to a more shopping friendly street.
http://www.di.se/Databas/2005/07/15/Pix/mode249.jpg
H&M will invest 1 billion SEK in their new project,

Ringil

July 17th, 2005, 04:20 PM

dont know if someone already brought it up but Karolinska is supposed to get bigger :) The new university hospital building(s) will have an area of 200 000 square meters

AtlanticaC5

July 17th, 2005, 06:02 PM

@DnH: What and where is this?
http://www.stockholm.se/files/93200-93299/file_93281.jpg
Looks like the "cube" in Hammarby Sjöstad, but then what is the highrise behind it? :)

staff

July 17th, 2005, 09:41 PM

ok i dont have time to explain the projects etc..

BUT HERE ARE SOME NEW PROJECTS IN STOCKHOLM..
Some of the projects look really awesome!

Dysfunctional

July 17th, 2005, 10:52 PM

DnH

July 18th, 2005, 01:52 AM

@DnH: What and where is this?
http://www.stockholm.se/files/93200-93299/file_93281.jpg
Looks like the "cube" in Hammarby Sjöstad, but then what is the highrise behind it? :)

oh man i forgot it ... i also noticed that. looks pretty good.

Dysfunctional

July 19th, 2005, 02:57 PM

What's the deal with Svea Torn? Is it U/C or what?

AtlanticaC5

July 19th, 2005, 03:19 PM

^ Nope, but it's approved. You can read here (http://metaweb.diakrit.com/4DAction/GetExpoDetail/327-Projekt05/32704113008491400) that construction will start in 2006, and be completed in 2007.

Dysfunctional

July 19th, 2005, 03:29 PM

Dammit! :evil: Why the hell must everything move so slow in Sweden.

Sonic from Padova

July 19th, 2005, 03:38 PM

interesting projects!

Ringil

August 10th, 2005, 02:19 PM

http://www.stockholm.se/files/85000-85099/file_85083.jpg
what about the highrise there to the left?

Swede

August 10th, 2005, 02:33 PM

oh man i forgot it ... i also noticed that. looks pretty good.
IMO it looks like part of Kuben, across an inner courtyard type thing.

@Ringil - That's Kista Residence Tower. Last news, over a year ago (or is it two?) was that an investor had pulled out. Right now it is just a vacant (tiny) lot.

Ringil

August 10th, 2005, 02:45 PM

oh yeah, damn

Dysfunctional

August 10th, 2005, 02:59 PM

Changing the topic to *actual* construction, (damn, I wish I had a camera) there's some kind of construction going on on the top of a building next to the nr. 5 Hötorgsskrapa and a glass-covered building very close to "gondolen" as seen from ye olde towne.

Swede

August 11th, 2005, 03:46 PM

The red building to the left of #5 (as seen from Plattan)? Could be just renovating/updating the climate controls...

Glass near Gondolen? attached to the building Gondolen is attached to? iirc that one's been under renovation for a while, but I thought that was done by now?

Dysfunctional

August 11th, 2005, 04:58 PM

The red building to the left of #5 (as seen from Plattan)? Could be just renovating/updating the climate controls...
Maybe you should take a peek because from the looks of it they might as well be adding three floors.

Glass near Gondolen? attached to the building Gondolen is attached to? iirc that one's been under renovation for a while, but I thought that was done by now?
Hm, I don't really remember what it used to be like.. I have to see again. Anyways, if you have time you can take a look yourself. :)

And please tell me, which Buffy character is Swedish? :)

Jonte myra

August 12th, 2005, 07:17 AM

Does anyone know if there are any construction/renovation going on ontop of Skatteskrapan? when I drove past it the other day there were 2 very tall cranes next to it.

ch1le

August 12th, 2005, 11:00 AM

ohOH! I got it! The buffy swedish character was Spike ?

Dysfunctional

August 12th, 2005, 01:13 PM

Does anyone know if there are any construction/renovation going on ontop of Skatteskrapan? when I drove past it the other day there were 2 very tall cranes next to it.

As far as I know it's just reconstruction. Maybe construction in the "back yard" but I'm unsure as to when that starts.

Dysfunctional

August 12th, 2005, 01:15 PM

ohOH! I got it! The buffy swedish character was Spike ?

Say what?

Swede

August 12th, 2005, 01:34 PM

I'll defenetly take a look at both those sites when I get the chance :)

They've started work on renovating Skatteskrapan? cool. But no new floors planned afaik anymore. Turns out the building is K-märkt and thus can't be altered much at all.

I got a reply from the architects of KistaResidenceTower. It ain't dead, just on hold until someone with money turns up... They don't expect it to be anytime in the forseeable future :(

ohOH! I got it! The buffy swedish character was Spike ?
Nope. Spike was English (upper middleclass Londoner, and a bloody awful poet).

Dysfunctional

August 12th, 2005, 01:40 PM

Nope. Spike was English (upper middleclass Londoner, and a bloody awful poet).
Well he did have that english accent, but he's born in Cally... So who is it?? *prancing like schoolgirl when meeting whoever's all the rage nowadays* -*feeling old*

Swede

August 12th, 2005, 02:08 PM

Spike was actually not born in Cali (tho iirc the actor is). The Swedish one is Anya.

Dysfunctional

August 12th, 2005, 02:18 PM

Aha, the actual character. How stupid of me, how can you forget Olaf, the Troll. :)

Parzival

August 12th, 2005, 04:04 PM

hur går det egentligen med residence tower, kommer det någonsin bli byggt?!

Swede

August 12th, 2005, 04:44 PM

^ ^Olaf is a dead give-away that they don't know Scandinavina names. Olof is Swedish :)

^verkar inte så. Men tronet finns med i alla planer för utbyggnad av Kista så även om nuvarande torn inte blir av (kan ju komma nån som vill lägga pengar på't, man vet aldrig) så kommer det nog bli en skyskrapa där med tiden. Kanske får vänta 10 år dock :(

Parzival

August 30th, 2005, 03:38 PM

Anyone read Stockholm City today, it was about a new proposed skyscraper in some area. An apartment scraper. Anhyone got info about it?

AtlanticaC5

August 30th, 2005, 06:38 PM

^Really? Gotta look for the internet-version!

Found it!
http://www.city.se/ArticlePages/200508/29/20050829181200_143/0830telefonplan.jpg

Telefonplan kan få skyskrapa

TELEFONPLAN. Arkitekten siktar högt med omvandlingen av Telefonplan. Ett bostadshus på upp till hela 21 våningar kan bli Telefonplans nya ansikte utåt.

Eva Kallersand

– Det har uppfattats som kontroversiellt eftersom andra bostadshus i området är fyra- och femvåningshus. Det är bara det gamla LM Ericsson-tornet som har den här höjden i området, säger Sara Benjamin, planhandläggare på stadsbyggnadskontoret.

Arkitekten Ulf Gillbergs tanke är att det nya bostadshuset ska synas väl från närliggande E4:an, för att ge Telefonplan och Midsommarkransen ett nytt landmärke.

Efter en första remissomgång har några privatpersoner boende i närområdet kommit in med klagomål.

Och det 21 våningar höga huset kan mycket väl ”bara” bli 14 till 16, eller 11 till 13 våningar högt. Remissvaren från olika instanser bearbetas just nu. Senare i höst får boende i närområdet ytterligare en chans att tycka till innan stadsbyggnadsnämnden tar slutligt beslut i frågan.

Huset ingår som en del i den spännande förvandlingen av det gamla industriområdet, kvarteret Tvålflingan, där Ericsson tidigare huserade, och som totalt ska ge 340 till 370 nya lägenheter fördelade på 165 till 200 bostadsrätter och 170 hyresrätter.

Byggstart planeras till våren 2006. Hösten 2007 ska de första boende kunna flytta in.

Summary in English:
The architect Ulf Gillberg wants to build a 21-story tower at Telefonplan in Midsommarkransen in Stockholm. Only one highrise (14 floors) is located in the area, and the 72 m tall Telephone-tower at LM Ericsson's old factory.
A few persons nearby has complained about the proposal, and the tower might shrink to 14 to 16 floors, or 11 to 13 floors. This fall the persons in the area will get the chance to say what they think about it.
The building is a part of the block Tvålflingan where Ericsson had offices and factory earlier. The area will be converted to a residential area.
Construction of the building is planned to start the spring of 2006, and completiton in fall 2007.

DnH

August 30th, 2005, 10:36 PM

wolkenkrabber

August 31st, 2005, 09:16 AM

Nice! i hope the 21 story gets built in original height

____
hur fans jävla skadad kan folk vara, fan redan klagat, Telefonplan är ju skabbit, de skall ju vara glad att de får en upprustning och va fan klagar dem på höghuset för? inte som om det kommer skymma någon super utsikt! jävla efterblivna gödsvin :gaah: :rant:

Swede

September 3rd, 2005, 10:21 PM

Ringil

September 4th, 2005, 12:46 AM

pendeltåg från Uppsala-Arlanda-Upplands Väsby, intressant :) Uppsala vävs alltmer in i StorStockholm ser det ut som

DnH

September 4th, 2005, 12:26 PM

Euklidisk

September 4th, 2005, 03:42 PM

Even better would be if they added a second tower, or at least few more floors... :D ;)
IMO that is a great spot for a tower, as suburbs go. Close to the subway and everything.

There was a "specialbilaga" in Metro this week, from SL, about the future of transit in Sthlm. Managed to hold on to one and scanned the map at the end :)
http://web.telia.com/~u87519938/SLvision2015.JPG

This vision is unrealistic, no way there is going to be any money for pendeltåg to Arninge and subway to Nacka in 2015. Pendeltåg to Arninge alone will certainly cost about SEK 5 bn - the majority of the line has to be tunneled. It's the same with the Nacka subway.

This kind of project is financed through Banverket long time budget, and there is no money for this in the 2004-2015 period.

But it's nice to dream :)

Ringil

September 4th, 2005, 04:01 PM

I read Knivsta will become SL's most northern commuter station.

Vid en presskonferens 21 juni 2004 presenterades utredningsarbetet om pendeltågtrafik på sträckan Uppsala – Arlanda – Upplands Väsby, Upplandspendeln.
Projektet drivs i samarbete mellan Upplands Lokaltrafik (UL), Storstockholms Lokaltrafik (SL), Banverket, Luftfartsverket Arlanda och Arlandabanan.

- Det här är en mycket viktig fråga för att Uppsala län ska vara en del av den arbetsmarknadsregion där Stockholm är den stora magneten, säger landstingsstyrelsens ordförande Mats O Karlsson.

- Upplandspendeln kommer att göra skillnad i människors vardag, säger SLs styrelseordförande Anna Berger-Kettner. Det är en viktig jämställdhetsfråga som ökar valmöjlighet på arbetsmarknaden för låginkomsttagare.

Upplandspendeln är ett projekt i två etapper där den första etappen innebär att Upplands Lokaltrafik kör pendeltåg på sträckan Uppsala – Upplands Väsby med stopp i Bergsbrunna, Alsike, Knivsta och Arlanda. I utredningen föreslås att samma tåg som kör Upptåget, sträckan Uppsala – Tierp, fortsätter söderut. På så sätt integreras Upptåget med Upplandspendeln och bildar ett sammanhängande pendeltågsystem på sträckan Tierp – Uppsala – Arlanda – Upplands Väsby.
Resenärer till stationer närmare Stockholm byter till SLs pendeltåg i Upplands Väsby.

Etapp 2 av projektet innebär att SL kör pendeltåg till Knivsta och därmed flyttar vändpunkten som idag är i Märsta. Det gör att tågresenärerna får två bytespunkter, Knivsta och Märsta, mellan ULs och SLs pendeltåg.

Swede

September 4th, 2005, 06:29 PM

This vision is unrealistic, no way there is going to be any money for pendeltåg to Arninge and subway to Nacka in 2015. Pendeltåg to Arninge alone will certainly cost about SEK 5 bn - the majority of the line has to be tunneled. It's the same with the Nacka subway.

This kind of project is financed through Banverket long time budget, and there is no money for this in the 2004-2015 period.

But it's nice to dream :)
Yeah, I was suprised they named it Vision 2015, more apt name would be Vision 2030. The Pendel to Arninge and Subway to Nacka are by far the most expensive bits. Even Citybanan is probably cheaper.
The only bit's I think we can exect by 2015 are the pendel-tunnel thru the Inner City, Tvärbana to Solna, subway Hagsätra-Älvsjö (not on the map, but mentioned in the text) and all the busses. Other things to hope for al little is extending Djurgårdslinjen to Centralen and the increased Pendel service to/thru Uppsala.

Chilenofuturista

September 7th, 2005, 03:48 AM

Hej! Jag vill ej verka ohövlig men skulle det kunna gå att få en bättre scanning av bilden om SL:s vision 2015 som Euklidisk satte in?
Personligen så skulle jag mycket gärna vilja se att tvärbanans alla planerade förlängningar förverkligades, liksom alla andra planer för den övriga spårtrafiken.
Jag är fortfarande förvånad över att de ej har byggt än någon spårvägslinje mellan T-centralen och Djurgården.

Tack.

Ringil

September 7th, 2005, 08:04 AM

Other things to hope for al little is extending Djurgårdslinjen to Centralen and the increased Pendel service to/thru Uppsala.
that is already taking care of :) They started the work on the new station some week ago or something.

Swede

September 7th, 2005, 10:52 PM

@Chilenofuturista - det e min scanning! (av SLs/Gunvor Ekströms verk) borde gå att fixa, vad är "felet"?
The subway from Kungsträdgården to Djurgården(-Nacka) looks like it's not gonna happen. Iirc that was the original plan for the Blue line, but going by this map they've maybe changed it to going Kungsan-Sofia-Nacka instead.
The LRT lines are what will be expanded most IMO since they're much cheaper. I can think of a few more extension to it already:
East from Älvsjö to connect to all three branches of the Green subway
Southwest from Solvalla to Brommaplan (and maybe all the way to Tappstöm?(Ekerö))
Solna->Univeritetet(->Ropsten?)
Sollentuna->Roslagsbanan(/Arningependeln:))
Also, turn the Trunkline busses in the Inner City into trams
Ah, daydreaming about more rail in your city - can you get more un-cool?

^The commuterlines, yes :) But not the extension of the 7 :(

Chilenofuturista

September 9th, 2005, 12:17 AM

Tja, några saker syntes inte på den undre kanten, nu hittar jag inte längre bilden på den här tråden, men som sagt, det var bara några saker som inte hann synas, annars tycker jag att scanningen é bra. :)
Ja, förläng tvärbanan åt alla riktningar. Tvärbanan verkar ha antagit rollen som T-banan hade för några årtionden se'n, om T-banan é dyr så varför inte satsa pengarna på att förlänga tvärbanan. :) Så länge det finns möjligheter att byta färdmedel, d v s, att banan "korsar" befintliga spår så att det går att göra byten som t.ex idag vid Alvik, Globen och Gullmarsplan, snart också Årstaberg. <- Den ser förträfflig ut!! Man ser den "passera snabbt" när man åker på pendeln, men gud vad snygg den håller på att bli. :)

Vad tror ni om de tänkta förlängningarna av T-banan? Blir de någonsin av?

Ps. Dina tvärbaneförslag var utmärkta, starkt jobbat! :)

jag kan alltid fortsätta drömma, det skadar inte... ;)

Swede

September 13th, 2005, 11:10 PM

Ah, du menar texten där nere? Kan fixas imorn. Märk att en av två som e med i text på ^bilden är Tbana Hagsätra-Älvsjö - inte utritat på kartan!
The most likelly extensions of th subway to get built are IMO the Hagsätra-Älvjö then the Akalla-Barkaby one. The Nacka-branch is still many a moon away.

DnH

September 16th, 2005, 06:03 PM

I just heard from someone who watched the news some minutes ago, that they plan to build a skyscraper in STOCKHOLM taller than TURNING TORSO in Malmö... they said they wanted the highest scraper to be in Stockholm since its the capital..
i guess they will talk more about it @ Regionala nyheterna 19.10

EDIT : ok, you can watch it here : http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=33506 if you dont want to wait..
its just a vision yet i suppose.. if it gets built it will be at the "Norra Stations area"

This is from a CHAT with Annika Billström, mayor of Stockholm, which proposed this .. this quote is from 2002 :)

"Kenta H säger: Var tycker du att man skall bygga skyskrapan? När skulle det var möjligt att börja bygga den? Hur hög?

Annika Billström säger: Jag tycker att vi ska bygga en skyskrapa i city eller en i närförort. Detta ska ske så fort det bara går. Minst 40 våningar"

Þróndeimr

September 16th, 2005, 06:18 PM

September 16th, 2005, 07:37 PM

I'm not sure if I like the location. It would look better with a couple of 20-25 storeys like in the other new city areas and to just expand the inner city to Karolinska with normal quarters. But of course I love the idea of showing those skånings who really is the greatest, and I welcome them to try and beat us again as soon as the building i finished.

Parzival

September 16th, 2005, 08:18 PM

lofgren

September 16th, 2005, 08:43 PM

"those skånings" haha... :)

DnH

September 16th, 2005, 08:43 PM

Could u give us a direct link because I can't find the the video?

click on the link to the right, "abc - senaste sändningarna" then choose 17:55.

Swede

September 17th, 2005, 06:47 PM

^that is just awesome. Tho I'm not sure the 40s figure they use is realistic. Even at 4.5m/floor that would just yield 180m. 50+s is more certain to nab the title. Also, the rendering they used is horrible an to me shows a bias against the tower (not kidding, it was just that ugly).

@Chilenofuturista - here we go!
http://web.telia.com/~u87519939/SLvis20151.JPG
http://web.telia.com/~u87519939/SLvis20152.JPGhttp://web.telia.com/~u87519939/SLvis20153.JPG

AtlanticaC5

September 17th, 2005, 08:39 PM

Wow, that's great new indeed! But, like Swede said, 40 "normal" floors won't make it taller than TT. Ah well, it's very tall anyway :)

Parzival

September 17th, 2005, 09:32 PM

Wow, that's great new indeed! But, like Swede said, 40 "normal" floors won't make it taller than TT. Ah well, it's very tall anyway :)
That was a quote from 2002 not yesterdays quote from Billström.

staff

September 17th, 2005, 09:39 PM

Haha. I also read about this in today's newspaper (which called it the "big brother complex"!). Billström stated that Malmö having 2 very big and famous landmarks - the Torso and Öresundbridge - was very "unswedish", and that something has to be done about it.
Well, Stockholm can try and build something taller than Turning Torso - but it will never ever be even close to what TT really is = one of the best skyscrapers in the world.

But of course I love the idea of showing those skånings who really is the greatest, and I welcome them to try and beat us again as soon as the building i finished.
Well, if that ever happens, I'm sure Malmö would top it very soon. We're used to be number 1 in these matters. ;)

DnH

September 17th, 2005, 09:46 PM

hopefully there will be a skyscraperfight between malmö and stockholm :)

gothenburg is fallin behind :(

Rausa

September 17th, 2005, 10:01 PM

^^
Hehe, i love that idea :), it would be great if GBG proposed something spectacular :)

Chilenofuturista

September 21st, 2005, 03:09 PM

Swede: Thanks for updating my memory, blimey, I had forgot all about those things and I was once (or maybe I still am, yes, I still am.. whow) part of Kollektivtrafikant. :D I think that I've been lurking too much in other ssc forums..

Btw, I think that Billström has exhausted all credibility and confidence. She's history and few people will ever want to have her back.

And I'm still waiting for a real skyline for Stockholm with massive skyscrapers (by saying this I think I'm not very popular at "skönhetsrådet" at Stockholm City Hall, hehe) and more extensions of the underground, commuter train (nortwards- btw, does anybody know when the inauguration of the Upplandspendeln will take place? I'm of course referring to the "extension" between Upplands Väsby and Uppsala) and the Tvärbanan. When exactly will Årstaberg Station be inaugurated?
And I wonder if there are any further plans for extending the Underground, besides the current plans for Hagsätra-Älvsjö, Akalla-Barkarby, Odenplan-Karolinska and Kungsan-Nacka.
Gosh, so many questions, I hope that I didn't abrade you. :)

Cheers!

Chilenofuturista

October 9th, 2005, 10:43 PM

Latest news: Taken from DN.
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Fem skyskrapor kan byggas vid Norra station

Fem stora skyskrapor planeras på Norra stationsområdet mellan Solna och Stockholm. - De kan bli hur höga som helst, säger Anders Gustâv, Solnas starke man.

I fredags träffades kommunalrådet Anders Gustâv (m) och finansborgarrådet i Stockholm, Annika Billström (s), för att lägga upp strategin inför måndagens ordinarie möte med styrgruppen för Norra stationsprojektet.

Enligt tidigare planer ska det strategiskt mycket viktiga området på gränsen mellan Solna och Stockholm förvandlas till en helt ny stadsdel med 3.000 bostäder, arbetsplatser, grönområden och tunnelbane*station. Tanken är att Norra station ska bli ett centrum för bioteknisk forskning och utveckling, granne med Karolinska institutet.

I det ursprungliga förslaget har arkitekterna ritat in helt normala bostads- och kontorshus som väl smälter in med grannfastigheterna i Vasastan.

Men nu har politikerna i Solna och Stockholm fått något nytt att fundera över. Tanken på ett eller flera mycket höga hus på Norra station har börjat gro och idén tillskrivs främst Annika Billström.

- Hon tog först upp det på ett fastig*hetsseminarium för en tid sedan och då hade jag aldrig hört talas om det. Det har aldrig funnits med i planerna för Norra station. Marken som hon talar om ligger uteslutande på Stockholms sida och då äger hon frågan. Men jag har inga principiella invändningar mot några höghus där, säger Anders Gustâv.

Det handlar inte om att slå Malmö med Turning Torso (Europas högsta bostadshus), men husen vid Norra station kan bli Stockholms första riktiga skyskrapor. För ett antal år sedan skrotades idén om att bygga den så kallade Japanskrapan i nästan samma område. Då ansåg man att en skyskrapa vid Norrtull var alltför dominerande.

- Vi är helt öppna för vad det kan bli. För mig förefaller det rimligt att bygga höga hus där. Det finns inga stadsbildsmässiga problem. De kan bli hur höga som helst. Det är inte tal om tiovåningshus utan om riktiga landmärken som markerar områdets identitet, som en viktig del av storstaden, säger Anders Gustâv och nämner fem skyskrapor.

Han befarar att en stormig debatt om skyskrapor skulle kunna försena hela Norra stationsprojektet.

- Jag är som bekant rätt förtjust i höga hus. Jag tror att det är viktigt med den här typen av landmärken, säger Solnas starke man som nyligen i tidningen Byggindustrin utsågs till svensk mästare i nybyggande.

DN har inte lyckats nå Annika Billström för en kommentar.

Dysfunctional

October 9th, 2005, 11:26 PM

WEEE!!!! *getting my hopes up* :)

Petter of Stockholm

October 10th, 2005, 01:45 AM

Very good idea with skyscrapers at Norra station! I have thought of this idea before but I never thought Billström would accept it. Anyway, Billström will loose her mandat October 2006, so this idea must be transfered to the next government if this ever should come true. BUT I LOVE THE IDEA! 5 new skyscrapers!!

Chilenofuturista

October 10th, 2005, 11:25 AM

I hope they get constructed and reach at least 200 metrers...

Swede

October 10th, 2005, 02:19 PM

Chilenofuturista

October 10th, 2005, 02:33 PM

I hope they'll have at least 40+s....

October 10th, 2005, 02:43 PM

Wonderful. And it's a nice spot for a highrise cluster as the view of it when entering Stockholm from the north or via Essingeleden will be perfect.

Förhoppningsvis överger de inte heller idén om vanliga kvarter som går bra ihop med Vasastan, utan bygger några snygga skyskrapekvarter. Det är dags att någon bevisar att det går alldeles utmärkt att bygga höga hus i stockholmsstil.

Chilenofuturista

October 10th, 2005, 02:44 PM

MP: Underbart sagt! :okay:

DnH

October 10th, 2005, 03:17 PM

yeah!!

Jonte myra

October 10th, 2005, 03:22 PM

The fact that all the 5 towers would stand within Stockholm simplifies everything when compared to some being here (lol, I live on the far side of Solna yet still in Sthlms Stad:D), some in Solna. Hopefully they will happen as, iirc, the City leader of the Liberal party said a couple of years or so ago that the roof-line in these new parts should be raised to make room for more housing (and offices) - so neither the left or right are now foreign to the idea of having tall buildings near the Inner City.

I also like the reamrk that the 5 proposed towers aren't gonna be "10 stories talll, but real landmarks" :) Sounds like 30+s to me...

The five proposed towers would make an impressive cluster, and if the plans for "Solna city" will be realised aswell, the cluster will be just a kilometer away from the proposed 2x130m towers or the 1x200m tower and just next to Wennergren center located at Norrtull and a few hundred meters from "Nyponet". That alltogether equals Scandi/Baltics greatest skyline.

Can´t remember that Sthlm ever have had these many proposed Skyscrapers, gives me hope that atleast a few will be built if not all.

wolkenkrabber

October 10th, 2005, 03:41 PM

I have been let down so many times and everything goes so effin slow here, so ican not really say i got any real hopes for it sadly:(

DnH

October 10th, 2005, 04:20 PM

The five proposed towers would make an impressive cluster, and if the plans for "Solna city" will be realised aswell, the cluster will be just a kilometer away from the proposed 2x130m towers or the 1x200m tower and just next to Wennergren center located at Norrtull and a few hundred meters from "Nyponet". That alltogether equals Scandi/Baltics greatest skyline.

Can´t remember that Sthlm ever have had these many proposed Skyscrapers, gives me hope that atleast a few will be built if not all.

that would be awesome :)

Wenner Gren, Nyponet, Solna City & these now. A real highrise cluster.

Ringil

October 10th, 2005, 05:38 PM

this sounds too good to be true!!

ch1le

October 10th, 2005, 05:43 PM

mby you can brief us non swedes what was the article about... how many where how tall.... and what is the chance of those beeing done! Will they all be planned by different architects etc :D

Its FAR too early for stockholm to sloganize itself as scandi/baltics greatest skyline :D

DnH

October 10th, 2005, 09:39 PM

Construction will begin 2009 :( OOOOOOOOOOOOOOORKA!!! allt tar sån jävla tid :)

AtlanticaC5

October 10th, 2005, 10:05 PM

:banana: Wohooo! :banana:

@Ch1le: Five skyscrapers are planned some km north of central Stockholm, "no 10-storey buildings but real landmarks". So we'll see how tall, and how realistic the plans are. I do hope something good will come out of this, it would be so awesome! :)

Sims

October 10th, 2005, 10:26 PM

:eek2: :eek2: WEEEEH! This is too good to be true, in my ears!! Billström got my vote hehehe :D:D:D

Parzival

October 11th, 2005, 09:21 AM

I recommend you all to go to www.svt.se and then click ABC and the REAGERA and vote for skyscrapers in stockholm and post debate comments. Some comments will be showed in the program so do your best! I've already post one.
58% of the population in Stockholm seem to be postiv.
Let's go skyscrapers!!!!!!!

wolkenkrabber

October 11th, 2005, 02:49 PM

i just voted, 60% are for it now...

Here is a direct link to the ABC news (http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?formname=455701&formtype=default_form_type&pollanchor=pa455701&choice.type=SELECT&redirect=%2Fsvt%2Fjsp%2FCrosslink.jsp&d=33506&choice=0&hasVoted=false&hasCookies=true&submitError=&#pa455701)

the voting is on the right side,

Tycker du att det bör byggas
skyskrapor i ABC-området?

press Ja & Rösta if you're a foreigner, we need all votes we can get

AtlanticaC5

October 11th, 2005, 04:14 PM

I voted JA of course :D still 60% yes. Man, I really want this to be true, please BUILD the skyscrapers, we need 'em!

Parzival

October 11th, 2005, 05:57 PM

I hope at least one of them will reach over 200m so we beat Turning Torso.

staff

October 11th, 2005, 06:14 PM

I hope at least one of them will reach over 200m so we beat Turning Torso.
You could make it 500 m and it would never ever beat Turning Torso anyway. ;)

Sims

October 11th, 2005, 07:37 PM

Swede

October 11th, 2005, 10:01 PM

Parzival

October 11th, 2005, 10:36 PM

62% now... :D

^especially to Malmö ;) Göteborg, maybe, but a city without even LRT? no way :D
Not that I think Stockholm will beat TT in terms of architectural quality anyway :)

As for these forming a cluster with the Solna City tower/s and WGC, IMO not so. They're just too far apart - WGC and Nyponet are about that far apart and there's no hint of cluster-feel.
Well, I'm a little bit concerned about the space between these 5 scrapers. It looks like they will be built way to close to each other lik Sergelskraporna which will look weird becaue of their height.

Swede

October 11th, 2005, 10:47 PM

^IMO it could look good. If done right. You know, real urbanity to the bases, differing height, much variation in the architecture. If they're quintuplets like Hötorgsskraporna they'll turn 08 off of Skyscrapers for another 50 years.

October 12th, 2005, 02:21 PM

I agree. Landmark skyscrapers these days look a lot better than when Hötorgsskraporna were built. Back then t was enough to make a tall curtainwalled box for it to be cutting edge.

staff

October 12th, 2005, 03:52 PM

Maybe so, but Stockholm is the capital.. and size does matter ;) hehe

And since TT is a genuine masterpeice, I bet you Sthlm wont stop until it surpasses Malmö. In other words TT is a very worthy opponent, and competion is the only thing that can push up the average heights of Swedish urban buildings. Hehe so TT might be a blessing and a curse, as a Stockholmer I dont believe we will ever accept this current position of being runners up. :D
Well, I'm surprised Stockholm even cares about competing with a small city like Malmö. Malmö is the third city in the country, hence it wants to "be something" compared to the larger cities (there has always been an urge in Malmö to have the "biggest", the "best", the "tallest" etc.) Malmö has had the tallest residential scraper in Sweden since the 60s - Turning Torso is just "making sure no one will surpass". :)
Stockholm is already the largest city, as well as capital, and don't need to compete with it's smaller brothers. Stockholm should compete with bigger cities like Copenhagen, Amsterdam, Hamburg etc.

;)
http://www.suprasmalmo.se/urban/sspskylinemmx.jpg

Swede,
It is only a matter of time until they start planning LRT in Malmö, since the traffic situation is hopeless as of now. The Citytunnel is soon to be completed as well. :)

Sideshow_Bob

October 12th, 2005, 04:07 PM

/\ Well, Stockholm doesn't compete with Malmö of course. Only on one front, and that's the skyscraper front :) And that's quite unavoidable, since Stockholm doesn't have any.

AtlanticaC5

October 12th, 2005, 07:22 PM

Malmö has had the tallest residential scraper in Sweden since the 60s - Turning Torso is just "making sure no one will surpass".
That's not 100% true if we look at the details ;) Kronprinsen has got 6 floors with offices + the restaurant on top, and TT has got 10 office floors + 2 conference floors etc. The tallest "pure" residential in Sweden is Söder Torn in Stockholm, 83 m :) But of course TT has got the by faaaar highest located apartments in Sweden.

staff

October 12th, 2005, 07:23 PM

AtlanticaC5,

Sorry, you're the expert here. ;)

DnH

October 12th, 2005, 07:44 PM

Anything new on Solna Tower? Is it put on ice?
So typical sweden :(

Parzival

October 12th, 2005, 07:47 PM

Anything new on Solna Tower? Is it put on ice?
So typical sweden :(
Not what i've read but I'm afraid it's put on ice scince Billström proposed these 5 high skyscrapers.

AtlanticaC5

October 12th, 2005, 08:27 PM

Anything new on Solna Tower? Is it put on ice?
So typical sweden :(
I don't think we should expect to see any progress in the near future on Solna Tower/s since it's a part of the Solna City plan/vision, and iirc it hasn't got any time-schedule, it's more of a long-time planning. Correct me if I'm wrong here :)

DnH

October 12th, 2005, 09:02 PM

I don't think we should expect to see any progress in the near future on Solna Tower/s since it's a part of the Solna City plan/vision, and iirc it hasn't got any time-schedule, it's more of a long-time planning. Correct me if I'm wrong here :)

Alright :(

Sims

October 13th, 2005, 01:29 AM

Another thing would be that, due to the fact that Solna is a city of it's own. The media and such, don't really pry into things until they are offically announced, since those politicians there do not represent the stockholmers votes. And thereby are of less interest. (to fewer people)

Swede

October 13th, 2005, 11:15 AM

^true, but the big guy in Solna, Anders Gustâv (m) is pretty good at handling the media so Solna does some coverage. Maybe it's just that I ride the subway under Solna every day so I pay more attention to the Solna news bits :)
btw - http://www.solna.se has alot of info on Solna City and the NorraStation/Karolinska redevelopment. found this map there just now:
http://www.solna.se/upload/ChJ/Projekt/ÖP2006/01_markanvkarta.jpg
http://www.solna.se/upload/ChJ/Projekt/ÖP2006/01_forkl_markanv.jpg

Sims

October 13th, 2005, 11:48 AM

Hmm, what kind of scares and annoys me, is that they already got so far with these plans. (The Norrtull-Solna plans without the tower) I just hope there is still time and will to switch the course and start drawing new plans. Maybe the thought of these old plans already settled down in our politicians minds. Cos we've been seeing these plans for about a year now :|

Swede

October 13th, 2005, 12:35 PM

The plans aren't that far along afaik. And including a few skyscrapers does't really demand much ajusting of the rest of the plan, we still want the closed blocks of Inner City Sthlm and no friggin' tower-in-a-park crap - so just adjust the plan for 3-4 blocks to include the skyscrapers on the corners and you're done!
/it really can be that simple.

Sims

October 13th, 2005, 02:25 PM

@Swede
hehe, hmm ok, but due to sthlms location I think people in the adjacent areas will be worried and concerned about the chance of ending up in complete darkness. Which I think is a argument u often hear. And from experience sthlm-politicians are quite strict when it comes to those sort of things. sounds, shaddows, polution et cetera.. Well well, anyway, I got my hopes up. :) :dance2:

Swede

October 13th, 2005, 02:41 PM

That's true n' all, but since these towers would be going on a northern border of the City, the shadows will fall in Solna :D Also most of the shadows would fall on the area very close to 'em, which is part of the same plan - hence no nimby crap! :)

Nightsky

October 13th, 2005, 03:54 PM

I don't think most Stockholmers care about height at all. They think that their churches and museum are much more worth than tall buildings. In Malmö we don't have so many of these attractions, so we need to build them!
And don't forget that Göteborg also might get into the "game" with the new 3 taller Gothia Towers and the proposed Gårdaskrapan.

Parzival

October 13th, 2005, 05:08 PM

DnH

October 13th, 2005, 06:06 PM

28 Story building to be built @ Södra VärtaHamnen ???

Check these out:

http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/doc_download.aspx?path=\dir5\sub159&filename=oezuaxxx.pdf

http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/doc_download.aspx?path=\dir5\sub159&filename=nezuaxxx.pdf

http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/SBKPlanView____7672.aspx

and a question : Is Stockholm Building alot compared to other "big"-cities?
Compared to Helsinki, Copenhagen, Oslo etc.. and american big cities.

AtlanticaC5

October 13th, 2005, 07:38 PM

Parzival

October 13th, 2005, 09:39 PM

Dysfunctional

October 17th, 2005, 01:48 AM

^^ Yeah saw the plans earlier, they look great with that 28-floor office building, 21-floor residential +11-12 fl residentials :) Don't know if they are approved in any way, I doubt it. But it's far from impossible. Would be cool to see it when arriving from the ferries.

The cool part about that is that there will be high-rises on both sides then. Lidingö is on the other side with one 14-16 fl. (not sure) six 12 fl. and a bunch of 10 fl. high rises. Way cool! :cheers:

But it may (problably will) ruin the view of stockholm from the cliffs round where I live. I'm guessing that there's gonna be lots of whining about that.

Parzival

October 17th, 2005, 08:34 PM

I talked to "skönhetsrådet" today. hammarby Entré has actually been approved quite a long time.

AtlanticaC5

October 17th, 2005, 09:07 PM

Oh, I thought there were 4 diffent proposals. So either the 28 story, th 21 story or the rest. Not all of it? I'm I wrong?
Might be true, like I said, I'm not sure how it is. But it would indeed be nice with all of them! :D

Sims

October 17th, 2005, 10:37 PM

I talked to "skönhetsrådet" today. hammarby Entré has actually been approved quite a long time.

Niice, :D
But is it approved over all, or just by "Skönhetsrådet" (Beauty Council)?
No dates for construction to commence? :|

Parzival

October 17th, 2005, 11:18 PM

Niice, :D
But is it approved over all, or just by "Skönhetsrådet" (Beauty Council)?
No dates for construction to commence? :|
Maybe just "skönhetsrådet" but I think they are the last one to approve a new building, so it has already been approved by the rest.

AtlanticaC5

October 18th, 2005, 04:19 PM

No dates for construction to commence? :|

I actually e-mailed Peab some month ago about Hammarby Entré, and they said that construction most likely will start in 2007. So probably no construction will be seen next year.

michau

October 23rd, 2005, 10:15 AM

There are discussions about a possible return of trams to the Stockholm city :) The blue line would replace bus line 4 and the red one would be a completely new connection between the future residential districts of Hornsberg and Värtan (Ropsten)

http://www.michau.se/pics/other_pics/stockholm/plans/sparvagn/sparvagn_i_city.gif

Article from DN (2005.02.23) - in Swedish only:

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Fyrans buss kan bli spårvagn
Trängsel på bussar och gator gör spårvagnar intressanta igen.

Trängseln på bussarna och gatorna gör att det planeras för spårvagnar i Stockholms innerstad igen. Att göra fyrans busslinje till spårväg och en spårväg från Kungsholmen till Värtan genom city är de hetaste projekten.

Spårvagnarna försvann från innerstaden när Sverige gick över till högertrafik 1967. De återkom 1991 i blygsam skala när museilinjen Norrmalmstorg-Djurgården invigdes.

Om fem till tio år kanske spårvagnarna är tillbaka på allvar igen. Bygget av nya stadsdelar i innerstadens utkant och bekymren med trängsel både inuti och utanför de blå ledbussarna är två skäl till att det ritas på spårvägar igen.

Politiker från flera partier har gans*ka länge kommit med förslag på att förlänga Djurgårdslinjen från Norrmalmstorg till Centralen. För tre år sedan skrev miljöpartisten Åke Askensten en motion om en spårväg från det blivande bostadsområdet på nordvästra Kungsholmen via Centralen till det lika blivande bostadsområdet i Värtan. Nyligen beslutade en majoritet i landstingsfullmäktige att förslaget ska utredas.

- Det tog lite tid att få till utredningen. Jag tror att det kan bli en bra spårväg. De här nya bostadsområdena i utkanten av innerstaden gör att det kan bli kaos på innerstadsbusssarna om inget görs, säger Åke Askensten.

Det största problemet med att dra en spårvägslinje rakt genom city på Hamngatan och Klarabergsgatan är det ytterst begränsade utrymmet. Trafikplanerarna i Stockholms stad har, när de utrett frågan, kommit fram till att det måste byggas en biltunnel för att få bort så mycket trafik på Hamngatan att det går att lägga spår där.

På SL pågår trafikanalyser av tänkbara framtida spårvägslinjer. Den linje som trafikplanerarna tittat mest på är fyrans stombusslinje. Den har nu över 60.000 resenärer om dagen och varken utrymmet på bussarna eller utrymmet bland bilarna räcker längre till.

- Genomsnittshastigheten är nere i 12-13 kilometer i timmen och det är på tok för lågt, säger Tomas Ahlberg, trafikplanerare på SL.
Fyran har i dag så många resenärer att det rent ekonomiskt skulle motivera en spårvägslinje. Det kostar stora slantar att anlägga en spårväg, men driftkostnaderna är betydligt lägre än för en busslinje.

Fördelarna med att satsa på fyran som spårväg är att den i huvudsak går på breda gator och att bygget inte skulle behöva stöka till det i citykärnan.

- Om man tittar på kartan så är fyran lite som en tvärspårväg i innerstaden. Den kopplar ihop olika stadsdelar utan att gå genom cent*rum. De andra stombusslinjerna går ju delvis parallellt med tunnelbanan och är inte lika intressanta som spårväg, betonar Tomas Ahlberg.

Om fyran skulle bli spårväg är det möjligt att förlänga den från Radiohuset över Gärdet ut mot Ropsten. Det skulle dock inte ge de framtida invånarna i bostäderna i Värtan den spårväg in mot city som ritats in i planerna för området. I praktiken skulle det kunna betyda att Värtan får en spårväg längs fyrans sträckning och en annan som går in mot centrum via Strandvägen.

Anders Sundström

michau

October 23rd, 2005, 10:20 AM

Reconstruction works of Skatteskrapan seen from Vita Bergen. 2005.10.05.

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2005/051005_vita_bergen/051005_vita_bergen_skatteskrapan_5527.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/stockholm/2005/051005_vita_bergen/051005_vita_bergen_skatteskrapan_5527_cl.jpg

ShuMi

October 23rd, 2005, 12:04 PM

^^ Have any renderings how will it look like?

AtlanticaC5

October 23rd, 2005, 12:19 PM

^^ I think it will look almost the same after, it's just the interior that's being converted into apartments after almost 50 years of office. Or does anyone know what happened to the plan about adding 3 floors on top of the building?

October 23rd, 2005, 12:37 PM

It was dismissed because of the building's high cultural value or something like that.

michau

October 23rd, 2005, 12:48 PM

^^ Yup, the plans for a 3-storey addition have been skipped AFAIK :(

This is how it was supposed to look like:

http://www.stockholm.se/files/68900-68999/file_68988.jpg

But it will end up like this:

http://www.stockholm.se/files/68900-68999/file_68990.jpg

The low house in front of it is new. And there are some more residential buildings to be built in the area around the former Skatteskrapan (now Studentskarapan:) cause it will now host around 600 student apartments) to make it more human-friendly.

Swede

October 23rd, 2005, 07:20 PM

The renovation of Studentskrapan will turn out nice, but totally stupid. It has cost the City way too much and the cost can't be recovered from higher rents since it'll be students living there. The ubanisation of the plaza at its base is IMO an excellent idea. My one regret would be the low-rise nature of the new buildings. They shouldn't be as tall as Skatteskrapan, but at least 1 or 2 stories above the surroundings?

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The tram proposal is pretty much just common sense to me. All the trunklinebusroutes should be made into trams. Starting with the most used line - #2! :)

Dysfunctional

October 24th, 2005, 09:20 PM

Trams would be great! But what about a monorail or elevated tram instead?

Sims

October 24th, 2005, 11:12 PM

I'd be against that, that would completly destroy stockholms classic appearance,
I'd like stockholm to modernise, but not like that.

Swede

October 24th, 2005, 11:19 PM

Gotta side with Sims on this, elevated trains aren't Stockholm. At least, not Inner City Sthlm. For the suburbs tho, it's in character.

And now for the real shocker:
One proposal for the "sammanbindningsbana" between Söder and Centralstationen back in the 1860s-70s was actually an elevated track (ok, two tracks) above Skeppsbron (then thru Kungsan->Hamngatan iirc). Imagine a Sthlm where all the didn't happen plans actually went thru - all the skyscrapers ever seriously proposed + all the mega infrastructure... :O

ch1le

October 24th, 2005, 11:22 PM

/\ hehe, have to go offtopic LOL. i just remembered a funny thing regarding Tallinn in the 1920s and 30s one engineer proposed a 8 lane highway over the Old town, i mean not over... but through it... cutting the old town into two halfs and practically destroying a 25% of it :D LOL...

Sometimes, especially with this case, im happy everything doesnt go ahead :D

Dysfunctional

October 25th, 2005, 09:59 PM

Hehe, I'll tell you this: In the 60's (maybe even 50's) there were actual plans to demolsih the old town in Stockholm. DEMOLISH!

staff

October 25th, 2005, 10:03 PM

A pretty large part of Malmö's old town, Lugnet, was demolished during the 60s (I think) and replaced by pretty ugly midrise appartment buildings. :eek:

Swede

October 25th, 2005, 10:30 PM

Hehe, I'll tell you this: In the 60's (maybe even 50's) there were actual plans to demolsih the old town in Stockholm. DEMOLISH!
There were plans to this effect in the 1800s too. Would have wiped out the older parts copmletely and made it all into a grid like the parts nearest th esubway.

Swede

October 27th, 2005, 11:35 AM

Just thought I'd give some more info on two buildings (at Nordvästra Kungsholmen) I found at stockholm.se:
http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/SBKPlanView____7930.aspx

Två bostadshus på vardera sida om Essingeleden föreslås byggas 35 meter från leden (totalt 230 lägenheter) med ett parkområde däremellan, delvis under leden. Husen närmast Essingeleden är till hälften 16 och till hälften 8 våningar högt medan husen mot omgivande gator är 7 våningar höga. Lokaler inryms i bottenvåningarna utmed Franzéngatan. Inga bostadsrum kommer att vetta mot trafikleden
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Two residential buildings across Esingeleden (E4/20) from eachother. Half of the sides towards the interstate will be 16s tall, half 8s and the other sides 7s. A total of 230 appartments.
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2 model pics: pdf 1 (http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/doc_download.aspx?path=\dir6\sub99&filename=jglyaxxx.pdf) pdf 2 (http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/doc_download.aspx?path=\dir6\sub99&filename=kglyaxxx.pdf)

AtlanticaC5

October 27th, 2005, 03:09 PM

^^ Sweet! Now that would be a nice portal for Kungsholmen coming from the north :)

Sims

October 27th, 2005, 10:18 PM

Niiiiiiice :D

Chilenofuturista

October 27th, 2005, 11:23 PM

Smashing! :)

NP: Melotron "Halt Mich Fest"

Swede

October 27th, 2005, 11:30 PM

^^ Sweet! Now that would be a nice portal for Kungsholmen coming from the north :)
And also something nice to add to the SSP diagram... [hint, hint];):D

ch1le

October 28th, 2005, 01:17 PM

they looks sweet! Great planning!

AtlanticaC5

October 28th, 2005, 02:31 PM

And also something nice to add to the SSP diagram... [hint, hint];):D

LOL, yeah that's not impossible :) Not right now, but later.. ;)

Swede

October 28th, 2005, 05:48 PM

A little update...
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http://static.flickr.com/31/56884034_1b1b2c9c50.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56884034&size=o)

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http://static.flickr.com/33/56884033_5eb104bee5.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56884033&size=o)

That was the Hotel at Älvsjömässan.

Next up...
http://static.flickr.com/26/56886370_1b72da7a18.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56886370&size=o)

http://static.flickr.com/32/56887069_98256e8191.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56887069&size=o)

http://static.flickr.com/29/56886367_d7f759be84.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56886367&size=o)

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http://static.flickr.com/33/56887067_144a752628.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56887067&size=o)

http://static.flickr.com/25/56886366_76052bd580.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56886366&size=o)

Which is better? I'm leaning towards the right one, meself.
http://static.flickr.com/33/56887071_e443afe7d1.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56887071&size=o)http://static.flickr.com/28/56887070_510ecc576d.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56887070&size=o)

...Skatteskrapan! Being turned into (too expensive) student housing.

And now at the end we've got...
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http://static.flickr.com/29/56892212_fc678e990e.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56892212&size=o)

http://static.flickr.com/30/56889533_b3d2d7728f.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56889533&size=o)

front
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back
http://static.flickr.com/33/56896925_7649f166b2.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56896925&size=o)

distance to the E4/E20
http://static.flickr.com/29/56896927_83d80311bc.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=56896927&size=o)

...Lilla Essingen :) Half the island is being redevloped after Electrolux moved out. More than halfway done, I'd say.

AtlanticaC5

October 28th, 2005, 11:46 PM

^^ Really nice updates! That building on Lilla Essingen is 11 floors, almost a highrise! :D Maybe +35 m? Who knows? ;)

/I recognize some of the angles of the Älvsjö-pics... ;) :D

Before...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/astro_miffo/Stockholm/Stockholmsresa010.jpg

...after
http://static.flickr.com/33/56884033_5eb104bee5.jpg?v=0

(mine is leaning, eh?) :P

Chilenofuturista

November 2nd, 2005, 08:36 PM

SL kan stänga delar av tunnelbanan

SL överväger att stänga av delar av tunnelbanenätet och ersätta trafiken på vissa sträckor med bussar, om bristen på vagnar kvarstår efter nyår.

Omkring 140 tunnelbanevagnar är tagna ur trafik för inspektion efter problem med kortslutning. När de kan sättas i trafik igen är oklart. I värsta fall måste Connex och SL vänta på att Statens haverikommission utrett problemen, vilket kan dröja till efter årsskiftet.

Då träder försöket med trängselskatter i kraft och om vagnbristen är lika skriande då som nu kan SL komma att ersätta trafiken på vissa sträckor med bussar, eller köra bussar parallellt med tunnelbanan främst i ytterförorter, skriver tidningarna Stockholm City och Metro.

- Det är illa nog som det är, så vi måste ha en handlingsberedskap om det händer något oväntat. Vi har Stockholmsförsöket i faggorna vilket gör frågan aktuell, säger Per Ekberg, planeringschef på SL till Stockholm City.

Sideshow_Bob

November 3rd, 2005, 07:06 AM

/\ That's crazy! I say more busses!

Swede

November 3rd, 2005, 10:48 AM

^I say get more subway cars! And if they can't get new C20Fs, just modify some of the newer NYC cars for our signaling system and let's go!
/gotta get something for having based out system on the NYC one.

November 4th, 2005, 09:16 PM

I say less Statens Haverikommission so the company can focus on getting things to work properly instead of throwing tax-money in the trashcan.

November 6th, 2005, 07:20 PM

This pic defines Stockholm. I begin to miss Sweden :(
http://static.flickr.com/27/56897450_56937fc2a9.jpg?v=0

Sims

November 16th, 2005, 04:42 PM

Was just going to post these thingies, I guess no one has given this project very much light, since it's not a highrise. Anyhow, we all know the horrible, parking house facade opposite to Debenhams on Drottninggatan, in downtown Stockholm.
However! That is now history, for anybody who occassionly swing by town, you've seen extensive renovations going on. They'll smash this building to ground level and then build up a brand new one. So it's not really a renovation. Anyway, this will be the reslut:

http://static.flickr.com/34/63891345_5a0e3e3428.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/30/63891336_1fd6021e45_o_d.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/27/63891343_494a05aa51_o.jpg

And then to the interior:

http://static.flickr.com/35/63891338_eef71067c0_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/30/63891341_e0017e75d7_o.jpg

And for you ppl who dont roam around town or perhaps are not from Stockie, this is the location:
http://static.flickr.com/25/63891347_bcb77ef8ab_o.jpg
As you can see, it cannot get more downtown than this.. :)

Sideshow_Bob

November 16th, 2005, 04:51 PM

/\ That's great. Now they just have to modernise ALL the buildings along klarabergsgatan and especially those in front of kulturhuset and I'll be satisfied.

Whose Homepage

November 16th, 2005, 08:26 PM

This pic defines Stockholm. I begin to miss Sweden :(
http://static.flickr.com/27/56897450_56937fc2a9.jpg?v=0

That IS a pleasant sight, Jo. :)

But say, are you back in Bangkok now? :wave:

November 16th, 2005, 10:00 PM

Hi WH :hi:
You got a pm :)

Whose Homepage

November 16th, 2005, 10:41 PM

^^ Indeed I did, and so did you. :)

Gatis

November 17th, 2005, 11:05 AM

http://static.flickr.com/27/63891343_494a05aa51_o.jpg
That looks really fine - lively!

Ringil

December 2nd, 2005, 10:44 PM

what do you guys know about this?

STOCKHOLM (AFX) - Skanska AB said it has won a 500 mln skr order from Norwegian property entrepreneur, Buchardt to build Stockholm's largest hotel - the new Clarion Hotel.

The contract will be included in Skanska's fourth quarter order bookings.

The hotel, to be built in Norra Bantorget square in central Stockholm will have 558 rooms. It is scheduled for completion in Jan 2008.

wolkenkrabber

December 2nd, 2005, 11:02 PM

^^
@Ringil here you got some info

Article in swedish (http://www.stockholm.se/templates/template_154.asp_Q_number_E_92632_A_category_E_13972_A_cat1_E_163_A_cat2_E_13973_A_cat3_E_24_A_c_E_13973_A_name_E_Hotell)

December 2nd, 2005, 11:12 PM

Here's the planbeskrivning (http://planer.sbk.stockholm.se/SBKPlanTemplates/doc_download.aspx?path=\dir5\sub175&filename=gugvaxxx.pdf).

And this is what it will be like:
http://www.stockholm.se/files/92600-92699/file_92657.jpg
http://www.stockholm.se/files/92600-92699/file_92656.jpg
Doesn't look very modern to me.

AtlanticaC5

December 3rd, 2005, 01:21 PM

I think it looks quite nice, but the bad thing is: It will be 34 m tall! So it won't be a highrise (cuz the limit for a highrise is 35 m). Why couldn't they make it 1 m taller? :sleepy:

Swede

December 3rd, 2005, 03:30 PM

^I've seen those plans before. Tho I'm not totally thrilled, it's ok. Thi hotel in combination with other plans along the same street will create a barrier between the rail tracks leading into Centralen from the north and the urban fabric. Looking back at how it is now from 20 years in the future we'll just gasp that people thought it was ok the way it was.

Swede

December 3rd, 2005, 06:38 PM

Just stumbled upon this little tidbit:
Solna Business Park (http://www.solna.se/templates/Page_solna_submenu.aspx?id=25553)
http://www.solna.se/upload/ChJ/Projekt/Solna%20Business%20Park/Vy-svetsarvagen_.jpg

This would be just inside the border (with Sundbyberg) of Solna, where it says Solna Business Park;
(white line = planned LRT, yellow dots = stops)
http://www.solna.se/upload/ChJ/Projekt/Solna%20Business%20Park/Solna_Sundbyberg05.jpg

As you can see from this plan, it'd be mostly 5-7s but with a 12s tower at its center.
http://www.solna.se/upload/ChJ/Projekt/Solna%20Business%20Park/Plan050527_.jpg

Found one more...
kv. Nöten (http://www.solna.se/templates/Page_solna_submenu.aspx?id=18485)
Either a hotel or offices, near Bällstaviken (the water in the pics). looks like 12s and slightly under 35m.
http://www.solna.se/upload/bilder/STARK/nöten_flygbild_bron_p-samråd_030701.jpg
http://www.solna.se/upload/bilder/STARK/Korta%20gatan%20020918.jpg
http://www.solna.se/upload/ChJ/Projekt/Solna%20strand/dp_nöten_utst.pdf

Both these projects are still in the planning stages, so I'm not holding my breath just yet. But the chances for the first one are good, looks like to me.

kall_man

December 12th, 2005, 04:50 PM

On Dec 14, the Stockholm City Council will, allegedly, make an about-turn and begin projecting in earnest for a 25 000-capacity football stadium south of Globen, to replace Söderstadion. Some images (not of the actual project, but of an example) and information (in Swedish) can be found on the link below:

http://gronvitasidanupp.blogspot.com/2005/12/steel-and-glass.html

This would effectively put a stop to the plans for building a stadium with a 50-60 000 capacity in the same place. The supposed change of plans is partly because of the continuing plans to build a large multifunction arena in Solna north-west of Stockholm (which is being discussed in another thread), and partly because a private investor, the American sports and entertainment conglomerate AEG, has expressed interest to finance the smaller stadium.

Swede

December 12th, 2005, 11:20 PM

^great news, if true. A clear situation regarding the future 50k capacity stadium will make it more likelly to happen and sooner, at that. Also this means the current Söderstadion will be opened up for redevelopment...

Swede

December 14th, 2005, 11:11 PM

^It's been confirmed!
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=647&a=502870&previousRenderType=6
They're hedging their bets tho, and saying if the big stadium at Råsunda falls thru they'll go for having it at Globen.

December 15th, 2005, 01:27 PM

DnH

December 15th, 2005, 02:19 PM

yeah fuck sweden.

Chilenofuturista

December 16th, 2005, 01:12 AM

Nej till bostäder vid husarviken

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=502574

This is so typical for Sweden. Länsstyrelsen is concerned about the nature being exploited by an expanded city core, so the crazy politicians cancel the plans for modern buildings to build commieblocks instead.

:wallbash: :ohno: more commieblocks, but it's outrageous?!?! Everybody knows how bad that is :eek2: in all ways + that we're no longer in the 60's or 70's... Oh my God, why do they never learn these politicians... :(

wolkenkrabber

December 16th, 2005, 01:38 AM

Vi borde utbiklda oss politiskt och shanghaja stockholm komun och alla nämnder så vi får igenom vad vi vill!...... Idioter att inte vilja bygga innerstadskaraktär!

That Solna industristad project looks nice!

Sims

December 16th, 2005, 12:43 PM

Well, in spite of all these d*mn rejections, the buildings on north-western Kungsholmen (which have been questioned due to the proximity to the interstate highway (E4), have now been approved.

I guess there's some light in the tunnel

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1298&a=503754&previousRenderType=2
(In Swedish, so mainly for Scandinavians, sorry)

cphdude

January 3rd, 2006, 11:25 AM

Wowe, there are some very great projects among them...Nice to see it...

Sideshow_Bob

January 11th, 2006, 09:59 AM

Not much happening in sthlm.. :(

Jonte myra

January 20th, 2006, 05:54 PM

No much of a highrise, but it looks pretty ok.
It´s now very close to a done deal that the old Postal-office building between City-terminalen and Stockholms stadshus will be demolished to make way for a big modern hotel and congress-center: Article (http://www.city.se/ArticlePages/200601/19/20060119161122_City091/20060119161122_City091.dbp.asp) in swedish.

January 20th, 2006, 06:16 PM

I hope White Arkitekter (Kista Science Tower, Radisson SAS Oslo) will make something good out of it, Gert Wingårdh's old proposal was even uglier than the current building.

Sims

January 21st, 2006, 03:01 PM

Here's a prelimenary rendering, from White Architects, of how the hotel might look:

http://static.flickr.com/27/89240830_22d0f64872_o.jpg
Quite alright I must say.. (Could have been taller but, none of us really expected that anyway right?)

TORONTOCOPENHAGEN

January 21st, 2006, 03:08 PM

Studenterskarapan does not look very nice...

Peter K

Sideshow_Bob

January 21st, 2006, 04:28 PM

edit

Swede

January 21st, 2006, 09:13 PM

The new hotel at Centralen look sok, can't wait to see how they f*ck up that design.. ;)
/the last one was horrible.

Oh, and inside sources tell me Annika Billström made a very pro-highrise statement at a party confrence this weekend. ALong the lines of it being time to quit playing and start building 20s talls...

wolkenkrabber

January 22nd, 2006, 05:35 PM

I can't get too muc out of sims photos, but i think it looks ok, it is on the border to newish structures, so..

Annika Billström :lovethem:

Parzival

January 24th, 2006, 05:45 PM

yeah fuck sweden.
X2 fuck it...

wolkenkrabber

January 24th, 2006, 07:13 PM

Here is a photos showing the "stone city" in stockholm and how it will expand, for you kwho speak swedish you will understand more... And as you see Liljeholmskajen is not with in the photo....

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6051/stockholm8nw.jpg
(C)Aftonbladet.se (http://www.aftonbladet.se)

Sims

January 24th, 2006, 08:05 PM

I can't get too muc out of sims photos, but i think it looks ok, it is on the border to newish structures, so..

Yeah, I agree it's quite hard to make out the real appearance of the hotel, but it doesnt look too awful.. :) Hopefully we'll find more pix tho..

Parzival

January 24th, 2006, 08:15 PM

Interesting map.
About that Solna-stockholm connecting, any news about the vision of the skyscrapers Billström presented?

Swede

January 25th, 2006, 12:56 AM

^nope. But that project is still very much in the planning phase, so there's time for height to be added :) The map overstes the project too. All maps/proposals I've seen is just the third closest to the Inner City, and most of the eastern half of the outer 2/3rds is a cemetary (Norra Kyrkogården). But thte good thing is that if the area along Solnavägen is urbanized it would create a continuity all the way to (the future) Solna City and from there it'd be fairly urban all the way to Sumpan :)

kall_man

January 25th, 2006, 04:08 PM

Guess it's because it's an election year, but now (m) in Stockholm too are jumping onto the high-rise train for real. In this news release (in Swedish), Kristina Axén Olin envisions a skyscraper cluster in the Globen area.

http://www.moderaterna.net/nyhet_visa.asp?id=3068

January 25th, 2006, 06:16 PM

Wonderful, I'm very glad that both Socialdemokraterna and Moderaterna accept the challenge from Malmö. But as Axén-Olin says, we have to get rid of a lot of regulations if we want a living city where high-rises are built on demand and not on populistic decisions by the politicians. With the current politics we will never get anything better than Liljeholmskajen, which is nice but in my opinion very sterile and un-lively with all the buildings the same size and all the towers placed in a symmetrical pattern. I want more chance and spontaneity in city planning. Less planning and more city.

DnH

January 25th, 2006, 07:16 PM

wont happen

Parzival

January 25th, 2006, 08:13 PM

Oright, SCrew BILLSTRÖM!!!! Ohlin got my vote!! :D

Parzival

January 25th, 2006, 08:14 PM

but aright guys, What do you prefer Skyscrapers in the globen area or in the Norra station arrea, the arrea between solna and stockholm?

Swede

January 25th, 2006, 11:16 PM

Obviously, there should be both :D but if I had to shoose I'd go with Norra Station. It's got more room to build on and there room to expand it northwards...

@MP - well said. Less details set by some commity in City Hall, more randomness in the planning.

Chilenofuturista

January 26th, 2006, 03:18 AM

...And what about the planned extensions of the Tvärbanan (modern tram) from Alvik to Kista and Solna, and consequently from Kista and Solna to Sollentuna Centrum/Häggvik(future Stockholm Nord, jesus ... I've been hearing about this project since I went to junior level in the 80's.. :sleepy:) and Universitetet respectively(with either a tunnel under Brunnsviken or a bridge over it) ? And what about the upgrading of the Saltsjöbanan to Modern tram standards? And what about the planned connection of the Tvärbanan and Saltsjöbanan at the vicinity of Henriksdal?
What about the the extension of the Green Line from Hagsätra to Älvsjö(making there possible a connection to Älvsjö commuter train station)? The planned extension of the Blue Line from Akalla to Kalhäll(and the construction of Stockholm Västra at either Kalhäll or Jakobsberg)? And well, all of these plans are extremely urgent. In fact they've been extremely urgent since years back.
This morning I heard on the radio that Billström had proposed now a 'so called' "Infrastructure package". For when you may ask, well, for this autumn(and she refuses to give more details for now)...gee it's election time then! :happy: What a coincidence. Please, I hope she really means it and is not just fishing for votes for the next elections of September. Or maybe I'm just being naive. :| Gee, I wonder why..
The population of Greater Stockholm has grown by 250 000 over the last 20 years, and what have the politicians done so far?! They inaugurated a whole new tram line(Tvärbanan) which is always a good direction :)- but it only crosses the southern parts of the municipality of Stockholm(I guess the other municipalities don't count very much... :sleepy:), crappy new commuter trains(they are and look beautiful and are quite fast, yes, but the radiation emanating from the trains is dangerous. <- That has been scientifically proven) and some new bus lines . That's it?!?!

And SL(Stockholms Lokaltrafik) claim that they want to have the best public transport in Europe by the year 2010. They said already that a couple of years ago, but guess what, we're now in the year 2006 and guess what else, in 4 years it is 2010. :)

When asked about the new planned extensions of the tram(Tvärbanan), they always postpone the extensions which are now becoming more of plans and then dreams than just promised extensions. Don't even dare to ask them about the planned Tube extensions. :sleepy:

And now we got promised the so long awaited "Citytunneln" (commuter train tunnel going under Stockholm and stretching from Tomteboda in the north to Stockholm södra in the south + three new stations: Odenplan, Stockholm city[under the Blue Line station] and Stockholm södra) which would only be used by the commuter trains since as still of today the usual long distance trains MUST share the tracks to/from Stockholm Central with the commuter trains(Pendeltåg). The station in itself was inaugurated in 1870(!!), there are only 2 tracks on the southern entrance to the station- the same amount as of in 1870(!!). Over 500 trains pass through this area every day- on these two single tracks(!!!). The commuter trains must therefore "compete" for these tracks with long distance trains, regional trains and goods wagons.
Guess what now? Remember that promised City tunnel? Well, it has been delayed since there hasn't been any agreement yet on how to finance the construction. In the meanwhile time keeps passing by, 500 trains still keep sharing those same two good olde tracks(making "possible" a continuous 'bottle neck') and still nothing is done. :sleepy: "How delightful". :sleepy:

Stockholmers are getting tired of this laissez-faire attitude from the politicians towards the city's population.

By the way, ever thought of the ongoing "construction boom" in Stockholm?

Check out this page. http://jagvillhabostad.nu/asm/default.asp?asmID=263&asmCat=3

And there are (as of November 2005) 125 885 waiting in the line for a place to live in Stockholm.
Source: political debate article at http://www.city.se/ArticlePages/200511/16/20051116075435_500/20051116075435_500.dbp.asp