Almaty Kazakhstan
Borjomi or Bakuriani Georgia
Jaca Spain
PyeongChang South Korea
Salzburg Austria
Sochi Russia
Sofia Bulgaria

sochi

Jaca, Spain.
:wink2:

VOTE

PyeongChang or Salzburg

For theirs insistence:
JACA 2014!!!

Kremlin cup tennis for men and women is played in this huge indoor stadium. Interior reminds me little bit of that of Superdome in New Orleans. Capacity during the tennis tournament is 15.000 with only 1/3 of the stadium used. Does any one have pics of this stadium?

This is a indoor stadium in Moscow capacity 35.000 for fotball now used for track & field indoor world championship.
http://www.moscow2006.ru/eng/venue.htm
Sport Palace (http://www.moscow2006.ru/eng/venue.htm)
Does anybody have pics of exterior and interiors with other configurations?

CSKA Moscow are the european champions in basketball but they play in an old arena with only 5,000 seats.

Do you think they should be building a new one?
Are there any plans?
Can you post any photos of the excisting arena(exterior/interior)?


:)

http://www.jewels4jeans.co.uk/images/padlock.jpg

I don't care

Why lock socrates?If youi don't car guys just do not participate. i asure u there are ithrs who care.But after 2-3 pages of interesting posts and photos don't come back here.

Why should they. This is just such a nonsense thread about speculations and thoughts. Why open this topic? It's plain useless. 'Do you think CSKA Moscow needs a new stadium?'. No I don't because I don't care. Okay. People don't care!

'Do you think Liverpool needs a new stadium?'
'Do you think Feyenoord needs a new stadium?'

Why should I even care about me thinking that some team needs a new stadium? It's useless and this kind of topics destroys this subforum.

^^ Jeez - who took the jam out of your donut? ^^

http://www.cska-hockey.ru/img/gall-img/06/bimg/IMG_0507.jpg

^^ Jeez - who took the jam out of your donut? ^^

I don't eat donuts at all. :cheers:

17 football stadiums under construction or approved (some brand new others to be renovated).
And this is not counting new world class ice hockey arenas popping
like mushrooms all over the place ;)


Spartak Stadium Moscow, 42000 (2009)

http://i14.tinypic.com/42lt9u1.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/4dlojts.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/2e393y0.jpg



CSKA Moscow stadium (30,000) - 2009


http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/AlfaStradale/cskastadium0089641.jpg





Stadium "Zenit" 60000 - 2009 - Saint Petersburg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6897/z7gn2.png

http://gorzakaz.org/acts/JP1.jpg



Sochi 2014 Olympic Stadium 40000 (will be used for football after 2014 games if we get it)

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3438/sochi1sh2.jpg

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1112/sochi3oo8.jpg

http://www.radiomayak.ru/p/b_9878.jpg




FC Khimki Stadium 16000 (2008)

http://fckhimki.ru/images/stadium/novator_new.jpg

http://fckhimki.ru/images/stadium/novator_new_1.jpg

http://fckhimki.ru/images/stadium/novator_new_2.jpg




Planned National Stadium in Moscow 55,000 (2011?)
http://www.sports.ru/football/2845574.html

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/civiliza/20/bf_citi/bf_citi-web.jpg

http://www.infranews.ru/images/uploads/fologallery/citi_cont/bf_citi1.jpg




Ural stadium reconstruction Yekaterinburg 31,000 (start in 2007, finish in 2009?)

http://forum.modemu.net/files/view_157.jpeg

http://photo.cod.ru/photos//7/b/6/e323b9ee3e79a1be2762802ab13846b7.jpg

http://itartass.ur.ru/photo/?id=152
http://www.expert.ru/printissues/ural/2005/24/24ur-utema4/

last paragraph:
http://www.port-all.ru/okno/print_news.asp?n=415




Kazan stadium reconstruction
http://www.tigp.ru/index.php?page=future&pp=3

http://www.tigp.ru/image_new/stadion_future.jpg

http://kazan.org.ru/hiscent/072_2.htm




FC Krylya Sovetov Samara 38,000, 2008
Improvements and new roof will be added

http://www.kc-camapa.ru/img/news/b/20060926.jpg

http://www.kc-camapa.ru/img/news/b/20060926bb.jpg

http://www.kc-camapa.ru/img/news/b/20060926ab.jpg

http://www.kc-camapa.ru/cgi-bin/newsprn.cgi?2328
http://www.samru.ru/?action=showArticle&module=article&id=13351&subrazdel_id=84
http://fanat1k.ru/news.php?extend.4595





Terek Grozny stadium
http://www.icube3d.ru/portfolio/vis/ext/stadium/

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ext/stadium/01.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ext/stadium/03.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ext/stadium/04.jpg

http://dva3.ru/pictures/vis/ext/stadium/02big.jpg




Stadium Dinamo Moscow will be reconstructed 30,000
http://www.championat.ru/news-33742.html
http://www.rian.ru/sport/20070214/60747856.html

Running tracks will be removed to enhance spectator experience

No pics



Planned Rotor stadium

http://volgograd.kp.ru/readyimages/196473.jpg

http://www.rotor-volgograd.ru/newslist/?id=145



FC Moscow are also planning 30,000 stadium that will start construction in 2008

No pics

http://basketball.red-army.ru/?a=press&id=10172




Rostov Stadium reconstruction
http://www.championat.ru/news-8900.html


No pics



Kamaz (1st division club are planning to build a new 16,000 stadium)

http://www.sport-express.ru/art.shtml?131878

No pics




Yaroslavl will also get new 30,000 stadium


Scroll >>>>>
http://www.shinnik.yar.ru/index.php?module=photoshare&func=viewimage&iid=457&viewkey=

http://www.shinnik.yar.ru/index.php?module=photoshare&func=viewimage&iid=458&viewkey=



Sibir Novosibirsk will also get brand new 35,000 stadium

Includes bushiness center

http://www.ratm-d.ru/cm/m_photos/output_image.php?photo_id=2&type=image&action=show

http://www.ratm-d.ru/cm/m_photos/output_image.php?photo_id=22&type=image&action=show

http://www.ratm-d.ru/cm/m_photos/output_image.php?photo_id=21&type=image&action=show


http://www.ratm-d.ru/projects/1/photos/



I don't know if I got them all :)

New regulations will come into force soon which should result in new stadiums or improved existing ones.

WOW ! amazing great for Russia , Go Go :D

Wow, that really is a boom!
I love spartak, cska and zenit stadium.

Those are nice stadiums! I love the one in Sochi!

Planned National Stadium in Moscow 55,000 (2011?)
http://www.sports.ru/football/2845574.html

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/civiliza/20/bf_citi/bf_citi-web.jpg

http://www.infranews.ru/images/uploads/fologallery/citi_cont/bf_citi1.jpg



If this is the National Stadium, then why can't it replace Lizhniki Stadium? This stadium better not have an athletics track. Otherwise, what will be done to Luzhniki Stadium after this stadium gets built?

- This is not the national stadium - this is supposed to be the national footbal team stadium:)

- the pics are wrong. This is a proposition for the river and railways terminal for Moscow City.

Zenit is gorgeous!

Nice work.
will be great to see some of those stadiums being built.
should give the russian league yet another boost

- This is not the national stadium - this is supposed to be the national footbal team stadium:)

- the pics are wrong. This is a proposition for the river and railways terminal for Moscow City.


Forgive me :)

I live far far far away.....

Thanx for the thread

The Kazan 'hippodrome' is under construction or already built as well.

Not sure if horse racing tracks are planned to be constructed in other parts of Russia also.

Wow it's as if Russia will be hosting a World Cup! They should definetly bid for the 2018 or 2022 WC.

Amazing boom...
the best is Zenit's stadium ... it seem bigger ... maybe 70.000 etc

Fatih Tekke is lucky :D

Great thanks for this thread!

Is the Terek's stadium the one promised by Putin after they won the Cup?
And also- do I see correct- will it be build in the old stadium's bowl? (the same gos for Gazprom-Arena)

I think olimpik and cska stadiums are best/ terek's i dont like - there are brakes on terrasis - its is not good for atmosphere and acoustics

good to see all the new stadia, whats the attendance for matches like in russia

Official host of the 2014 Winter Olympic Games.

Congratulations Sochi!

For being honest i was supporting Pyeongchang, i feel too bad for them, since this is the second time they lose, i just don't see them againt bidding after that hit.

Anyway, congratulations for Sochi. Hope i could watch the presentation videos, i was on university then. Perhaps they won because of Russia sucess on winter sports and for the modern infrastructure of the venues.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Sochi1.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Sochi2.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/Sochi3.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/73391627.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/picture1jpg.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/picture2.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p210/rfataar/picture.jpg

^^ Very cool venues..

Congratulations!!!
SOCHI is very nice town.

I decided to start this thread because Sochi, Russia was selected to host the 2014 Winter Olympics on July 4, 2007.

The XXII Winter Olympics will be held from February 7 to February 23, 2014. The main stadium will be the Sochi Central Stadium.

In case you haven't wondered, Almaty, Borjomi, Jaca, and Sofia were eliminated from the race, leaving Sochi, Salzburg, and Pyeongchang as the finalists. Finally, on July 4, 2007. Sochi won the 2014 Winter Olympic bid.

Good luck to Russia. Hopefully it will be a great games and brings a lot of prosperity to the region and Russia itself.

Congratulations on Sochi, Russia on being selected to host the 2014 Olympic Winter Games. Personally, i was rooting for Salzburg.....i thought they had the better bid, which would blend with the existing urban fabric of the city rather than building everything from scratch. I look forward to seeing Russia's handover under the dome of BC Place Stadium on February 28, 2010.

In many ways, Vancouver will be the Sydney of the Winter Games while Sochi will be the Athens/Beijing of the Winter Games. Unlike Vancouver, Sochi has nothing to work with - no venues - and they are spending nearly ten billion dollars on the Olympics. It'll be interesting how things go there.....

Good for Russia! First time they've hosted the Winter Olympics, and well over due. How big is the metro area? Sochi isn't well known around the world, but I've heard that $12 Billion is being spent in preparation for hosting. Can't wait to see the plans come to fruition.

Good for Russia! First time they've hosted the Winter Olympics, and well over due. How big is the metro area? Sochi isn't well known around the world, but I've heard that $12 Billion is being spent in preparation for hosting. Can't wait to see the plans come to fruition.

Sochi was by far the worst bid. They have no venues and they're building their resorts from scratch. It has a population of 340,000.

Salzburg had the best bid.

Kabul

CONGRATS SOCHI!!!

So does this mean this thread has to be closed?

It should be Almaty, Kazakhstan with Borat as it Promotion Ambassador around the globe!!!

Almaty and Sochi are interesting candidates. Oh sochi won?

Well done Sochi!

Thats why Sochi bid is so strong I dont like cities that have all their venues already built its boring the architecture and the venues arnt very modern usually. But with Sochi everything will be brand new and modern just like the Chinese olympics will be. I have thankfull that another bid like London didnt win. All london is doing is building venues that will be torn down after the games thats so stupid and pointless. In my opionion the best bids are the bids that build the most new venues.

Congrats so Sochi or is it Sotji. I believe Russia can make the games spectacular but it will cost. Only the safety orgnization will make the Athens Olympics look like sunday school.

Do they have any plan on how to ensure a safe olympic, I mean considering Chechen terrorists, Georgian separatists, hell the entire region is a timebomb.
I guess armed guards every 50 meters in the slalom slope won't look that pleasant on the tele.

Sochi was by far the worst bid. They have no venues and they're building their resorts from scratch. It has a population of 340,000.

Salzburg had the best bid.

Sochi is No 1 Russian resort town with a well-developed resort infrastructure that serves 2mln of Russian and foreign tourists every year. If you don't believe me, do a research and see for yourself, but just don't talk crap here.

Good decision. I wish u good luck Russia:)

:banana:

It should be Almaty, Kazakhstan with Borat as it Promotion Ambassador around the globe!!!

I think you mean Romania...cuz that is where the movie was shot.

Where is Sochi, Russia? I've never heard of it.

Where is Sochi, Russia? I've never heard of it.

I would guess its in Russia....

lol Black sea resort town.

Thats why Sochi bid is so strong I dont like cities that have all their venues already built its boring the architecture and the venues arnt very modern usually. But with Sochi everything will be brand new and modern just like the Chinese olympics will be. I have thankfull that another bid like London didnt win. All london is doing is building venues that will be torn down after the games thats so stupid and pointless. In my opionion the best bids are the bids that build the most new venues.

The IOC's principles are to select cities that are most ready to host the Olympics as well as cities that have sustainable plans. What is a city of 350,000 people going to do with so many new stadiums after the Games? Of 11 sport venues, all of them are new. And the cost is ridiculous.

Choosing Sochi is a huge setback.....read the Evaluation Committee's report and you'll see that Salzburg had the best bid.





Sochi is No 1 Russian resort town with a well-developed resort infrastructure that serves 2mln of Russian and foreign tourists every year. If you don't believe me, do a research and see for yourself, but just don't talk crap here.

I've done my research. I've followed the 2010 and 2014 bid processes quite closely. None of the proposed sport venues for 2014 exists.

Salzburg had the best technical bid plan....it was truly sustainable and about sport.

T What is a city of 350,000 people going to do with so many new stadiums after the Games? Of 11 sport venues, all of them are new. And the cost is ridiculous.

Why do you think that Salzburg with half the people of Sochi is more deserving? Russia is and always been the Olympic powerhouse and after a decade of financial and morale hardships they are finally given a chance to regain their position in sports. Considering Russia's financial wealth, its strong Olympic performance, and the fact that the bid is supported by Putin himself, Sochi is a one hell of sustainable project.

Salzburg, while I enjoied their final presentation, they proposed too much temporary and not enough permanent to attract greater attention, hence why they were the first city eliminated from the race.

This whole thing just proves how unimportant the Winter Olympics are. This was basically the first news I had EVER heard about the 2014 Winter Olympics, and I read the news every day. And it wasn't even headline news anywhere, it was one of many smaller sidelines.

Even in Canada where we're hosting the next Winter Olympics, this is the first time I've ever heard of this.

"best" bid is different from "technical excellence".
a bid is about marketing yourself, and sochi did that
the technical evaluation phase is about ensuring that each shortlisted city is capable. from that point onwards its about the glitz and glamour and you would be naiive to believe that you could win without that these days

Why do you think that Salzburg with half the people of Sochi is more deserving? Russia is and always been the Olympic powerhouse and after a decade of financial and morale hardships they are finally given a chance to regain their position in sports. Considering Russia's financial wealth, its strong Olympic performance, and the fact that the bid is supported by Putin himself, Sochi is a one hell of sustainable project.

Salzburg, while I enjoied their final presentation, they proposed too much temporary and not enough permanent to attract greater attention, hense why they were the first city eliminated from the race.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

do you even know what sustainable means?


While I did think all three bids presented technically superior bid plans, politics was unfortunately the decider in this race. The fact is, Salzburg had the best technical bid plan followed by Sochi and Pyeongchang. Massive stadiums and plans don't necessary make a bid technically superior.

Nuff said with that, i'm not commenting on this issue any further. Congrats to Sochi. Not the ideal candidate, but better than Beijing.




This whole thing just proves how unimportant the Winter Olympics are. This was basically the first news I had EVER heard about the 2014 Winter Olympics, and I read the news every day. And it wasn't even headline news anywhere, it was one of many smaller sidelines.

Even in Canada where we're hosting the next Winter Olympics, this is the first time I've ever heard of this.

Well, you're just one person.....the Winter Olympics are obviously less important than the Summer Olympics, but they still remain as one of the largest and most prestigious sporting and cultural events in the world. 3 billion television viewers watch the Winter Games, the Summer Games at 4 billion. And financially, on a cost ratio basis, the Winter Games bring more sponsorship than the Summer Games.

According to Google News, there are more than 2,000 articles circulating on the internet about the 2014 Olympic bid process. And that's quite significant.

Support Misha Bear back for Sochi!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/misha14/petition.html

Support Misha Bear back for Sochi!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/misha14/petition.html

http://www.aafla.org/6oic/OlympicPrimer/misha.jpg

Support Misha Bear back for Sochi!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/misha14/petition.html

http://www.aafla.org/6oic/OlympicPrimer/misha.jpg

^^^^^^^^^^^

The Beluga Sturgeon might be more appropriate, it inhabits the Black and Caspian.

I've still got my Misha from 1980!

OMG cool stadium :O

^^ Very cool venues..
Very interesting for figure skating, ice hokey and curling....but, what about the alpine ski tracks ?
Congratulation to Sochi but it's very hard to understand that an austrian candidate could have been rejected twice. Sochi never hosted even a world cup race....there is a big risk with this choice.

Great, a winter Olympics in deepest Russia, it'll be bloody freezing and get snowed off

Great, a winter Olympics in deepest Russia, it'll be bloody freezing and get snowed off

Sorry to disappoint you, however Sochi is actually in the warmest part of Russia, on the coast of Black Sea.

^^ While I agree with every word you say, I suppose FIS will require trial runs in 2012 or 2013.

^^^^^^^^^^^

The Beluga Sturgeon might be more appropriate, it inhabits the Black and Caspian.

I've still got my Misha from 1980!

why not both? Im sure if Russia release Misha again, the sells will be better than any other mascot ever!! People miss Misha a lot

We could call it Putin the Sturgeon in honour of our great premier who crushes all his opposition!

Use the same Misha but in white, polar bear type Misha will be the best choice.

I saw it on the net somewhere....

This is a link with all the venues and descriptions:
http://sochi2014.com/sochidwnld/bid_book/Book%202/Theme%208/Theme%208%20sprds.pdf


I will post some of them here:

The Bolshoi Ice Palace is a description of a 12,000-seat multi-purpose arena in Sochi, Russia that is currently in the planning stages. "Bolshoi" literally means "Large", hence the correct English name for the Bolshoi Ice Palace would be the "Large Ice Palace". It is due to be open in 2009. After it is completed, it will host some of the ice hockey events at the 2014 Winter Olympics along with Maly Ice Palace. Both venues will be 300 m for each other.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/0/00/Bolshoyicepalace.png/800px-Bolshoyicepalace.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/6/6e/Bolshoyicepalace2.png/800px-Bolshoyicepalace2.png




The Maly Ice Palace is a description of a 7,000-seat multi-purpose arena in Sochi, Russia that is currently in the planning stages. "Maly" literally means "Small", hence the correct English name for the arena would be "Small Ice Palace". It is due to be open in 2013. After it is completed, it will host some of the ice hockey events at the 2014 Winter Olympics along with Bolshoi Ice Palace. Both venues will be 300 m for each other.

It will cost $27.2 million to build the venue, including the temporary works for the Olympics. After the Olympics, it will remain a sports arena and concert venue.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/a/a9/Malyicepalace.png/800px-Malyicepalace.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/d/d6/Malyicepalace2.png/800px-Malyicepalace2.png

Speed Stating Arena (8000 capacity)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/7/78/Sochispeedskating.png/800px-Sochispeedskating.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/3/3b/Sochispeedskating2.png/800px-Sochispeedskating2.png


Figure skating
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/5/52/Sochiskating.png/800px-Sochiskating.png


Curling
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/1/12/Sochicurling.png/800px-Sochicurling.png

more projects and descriptions at
http://sochi2014.com/sochidwnld/bid_book/Book%202/Theme%208/Theme%208%20sprds.pdf

great renders of venues will always boost a bid. too many cities make the mistake thinking average looking renders will get them anywhere. its about vision and ensuring that vision is in the minds of the 100+ ioc members when they are voting.

Compact games with Coastal Cluster and Mountain cluster and road and rail links between them:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/f/f6/Sochilocation.png/800px-Sochilocation.png


Coastal Cluster, everything will be build form scratch:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/8/80/Sochiopark.png

great renders of venues will always boost a bid. too many cities make the mistake thinking average looking renders will get them anywhere. its about vision and ensuring that vision is in the minds of the 100+ ioc members when they are voting.

Exactly, if you read that document each venue has some sort of "theme" to it, I will try and list them sometime later. Its just to much to list, everything is in this big pdf file here http://sochi2014.com/sochidwnld/bid_book/Book%202/Theme%208/Theme%208%20sprds.pdf

Nice venues

yeah the venues are by studio zopinni, without a doubt the designs will be changed and in some cases even scaled down, but thats all part of being a host city

Truly impressive, considering that nothing's been built yet.

Are there any figures regarding the number of people having to be moved to make place for these wonderful venues?

Compact games with Coastal Cluster and Mountain cluster and road and rail links between them:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/thumb/f/f6/Sochilocation.png/800px-Sochilocation.png


Coastal Cluster, everything will be build form scratch:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/8/80/Sochiopark.png

Strange, I though the Olympic park would be in the city of Sochi itself, or possibly next to it. But by the map, its located in Adler (a town next to Sochi), not Sochi.

Truly impressive, considering that nothing's been built yet.

Are there any figures regarding the number of people having to be moved to make place for these wonderful venues?

The Olympic park will be build mostly on unused land.

here is its location

http://wikimapia.org/#y=43409163&x=39963455&z=13&l=1&m=s&v=1

Venues Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfgSq6Y3NTw&mode=related&search=

Beautiful venues! I'm definitely going to Sochi in 2014! :banana: :banana: :banana:
Can't wait! ;)

Venues Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfgSq6Y3NTw&mode=related&search=

wow...great video! infrastructure will be impressive! Definitely not seen by now! :cheers:

Ecologists Put Sochi Olympics in Jeopardy

Oct. 24/2007

The Maikop City Court has upheld the lawsuit of Valery Brinikh, co-chairman of the International Social and Ecological Union, and invalidated the order of Russia’s Natural Resource Ministry that stripped roughly 10,000 hectares of Sochi National Park of the strict protection status. As quite a number of key facilities for Sochi 2014 Olympics are to be constructed exactly there, the whole program of Olympics preparation is under the threat now.

Co-chairman of International Social and Ecological Union, Brinikh went to law to challenge the Natural Resource Ministry’s order of August 27, 2006 related to the Sochi National Park. By that document, the bureaucrats cancelled the strict protection status for roughly 10,000 hectares in the Aibga, Psekhako, Grushevy ridges and in Turji mountains of the National Park.

According to experts of Greenpeace-Russia, who consulted Brinikh on the matter, the reserve lost some land to authorize construction of Olympic buildings. At first Russia’s environmental watchdog, Rosprirodnadzor, prepared an environmental conclusion that sanctioned the changes in terms of ecology and the Natural Resourse Ministry OKed the results in the next move.

The recent award of Maikop City Court jeopardizes the whole program of Olympics preparation. Indeed, quite a number of key facilities for Sochi 2014 Olympics are to be constructed exactly at that challenged land that enjoyed the national reserve status about a year ago. Regardless, they aren’t very much agitated in the Natural Resource Ministry. “One court has passed the judgment, another will recall it,” they say.





Wednesday, October 24, 2007

Ecologist Wins Lawsuit Against Sochi 2014
Posted 11:20 am ET (GamesBids.com)

An ecologist campaigning against the construction of Olympic facilities on the grounds of Sochi National Park has won his lawsuit.

Valery Brinikh, co-chairman of the International Social and Ecological Union, proved the illegality of the Natural Resources Ministry’s order to change the borders of Sochi National Park, reports RBC Daily. Experts say the ruling calls into question the possibility of 2014 Winter Olympic Games being held in Sochi.

Last October the Natural Resources Ministry signed an order “amending the regulations on the Sochi National Park federal state organization” stripping some areas of its reserve status. On January 26 the government approved plans to build social infrastructure facilities in 16 sections of the Krasnopolyanskoye forest district, part of Sochi National Park.

Sports facilities are to be constructed in those areas for the Sochi 2014 Games but ecologists waged a campaign against turning the reserve into an Olympic venue. A lawsuit by Brinikh was rejected but on October 22 the Maikop City Court upheld the case. Brinikh proved the illegality of the changes on the zoning of Sochi National Park.

The ruling reportedly will affect the construction of an Olympic village on Grushevy Ridge, which is to be financed by private investment.

BDO Unicon Consulting, a partner and official consultant of Sochi 2014, told RBC Daily that the bid book was prepared in strict compliance with the International Olympic Committee’s (IOC) environmental standards. Igor Orlov, senior manager, said “our plans for sporting facilities respect all environmental requirements, otherwise our bid could not have won”. He said the court ruling’s coming into effect would mean a delay of at least several months in implementing the Olympic project.

The government is expected to defend the case.






I said it from the beginning....all these new venues being built are unsustainable, and i knew this lawsuit on the Sochi National Park was gonna happen. There were simply too many flaws in their 2014 bid, and sadly it was all hidden up by the glamour the Russian bid had.

There's still time for the IOC to rethink its decision.

lol

lol

Whats funny? You a troll? :sly:

why is this in the stadiums and sports arenas section?
if there are new images of venues or proposed venues please add them..but we cant create threads each time a venue(s) is under threat of being stopped. we should rather add information in a general Sochi 2014 or Vancouver 2010 thread covering all venues and issues relating to those games

What a crop of shit.

Czar Putin will not let those hippies spoil the Olympics.

Send them to Gulag I say :)

DOOOO EEEEET Mr Putin :)

^^ You're pathetic

^^ You're pathetic

So is Putin :nuts:

That's obvious

What a crop of shit.

Czar Putin will not let those hippies spoil the Olympics.

Send them to Gulag I say :)

DOOOO EEEEET Mr Putin :)

Thats how problems are solved in russia!

Yea Putin will ship them all up to Siberia...

That judge will regret his decision as he will soon be presiding over cases in the Lake Baikal region.

Thats how problems are solved in russia!

Apparently, and I fail to understand, how people applaud Mr.P. for that... :bash:
He's becoming worse than Lukashenko.

Sorry for OT.

Here they are!
http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20071127/450_mascots_0711273.jpg

Watch the mascot animation video: http://mash.zincroe.com/mascot/en/meet.php



Meet Miga the Sea Bear, Quatchi the Sasquatch, and Sumi, the Thunderbird

Jeff Lee, Vancouver Sun
Published: Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Meet Miga the Sea Bear, Quatchi the Sasquatch, and Sumi, the Thunderbird.

Along with a virtual sidekick, Mukmuk the Vancouver Island Marmot, who will never make an appearance in the flesh, these are mascots the Vancouver 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Games organizers hope will be adopted and adored by thousands of children around the world.

Vanoc unveiled a combination of British Columbia animals, an aboriginal mythic creature and a long sought-after half-man Tuesday as the flagbearers for its Olympic program, and in doing so joined a long list of organizing committees that have used cute and cuddly as the benchmarks for successful mascots.

None of the three mascots actually exist in real life: Miga the Sea Bear is a combination of an orca and a bear. Sumi, the Paralympic mascot, is a Thunderbird but looks more like a bear with wings.

And Quatchi is the first Sasquatch in history to actually make an appearance before human beings.

As for Mukmuk, it's actually the only real animal. But Vanoc says it isn't really a mascot and will only make appearances on its website.

The mascots are the creation of Vancouver graphic designers Vicki Wong and Michael Murphy, who own Meomi Design. Vanoc says that although the two provided more than 20 different concepts, it was Quatchi, Miga and Sumi that they first proposed and which were selected as winning designs.

Vanoc's much-anticipated mascots made their first appearances in Surrey at the Bell Performing Arts Centre in front of 800 school children, starting with a cartoon showing how Quatchi and Miga meet in the forests of British Columbia and then encounter Sumi at Whistler.

Vanoc says Miga is a sea bear "inspired by the legends of the Pacific Northwest First Nations, tales of orca whales that transform into bears when they first arrive on land."

Quatchi, according to Vanoc spokeswoman Renee Smith-Valade, became the instant hit with boys, while Miga resonates more with girls. Quatchi "reminds us of the mystery and wonder that exist in the natural world," Vanoc said.

And Sumi is an animal spirit whose name comes from the Salish word "Sumesh", meaning 'guardian spirit."





There's also a FOURTH MASCOT, the official fan: "Mumuk" the Vancouver Island Marmot
http://mash.zincroe.com/mascot/en/profile_mm.php

http://mash.zincroe.com/mascot/images/desk_flags_1024x768.jpg

http://mash.zincroe.com/mascot/images/desk_group_1024x768.jpg

http://mash.zincroe.com/mascot/images/desk_sports_1024x768.jpg

i like

These are cool, so much better than the scary Athens mascots :) but maybe Miga & co should move to another forum, I'm not sure whether they belong here lol

Yioupiii.... Happy Tree Friends goes Vancouver 2010!!!! They are sweet...

Mumuk is the coolest one.

I am pleasantly surprised. I was awaiting disastrous mascots....

Well done!

4 threads about this? Still don't like them.

By the way what does this have to do with stadiums and arenas?

You're suppose to use your imagination...and that's what VANOC has done. They appease to children, and that's what really matters...which should mean big sales for the merchandise for Christmas. The main target of Olympic mascots are the kids...not for adults. And they are certainly easily merchandisable, which is also the whole point, compared to past mascots. Millions of dollars of games revenue come from merchandise.

I'd hold those negative thoughts if you look at what past host cities did:



Beijing
http://images.ctv.ca/gallery/photo/olympic_mascots_20071127/image0.jpg


Torino
http://images.ctv.ca/gallery/photo/olympic_mascots_20071127/image1.jpg


Athens
http://images.ctv.ca/gallery/photo/olympic_mascots_20071127/image2.jpg


Salt Lake
http://images.ctv.ca/gallery/photo/olympic_mascots_20071127/image3.jpg


Sydney
http://images.ctv.ca/gallery/photo/olympic_mascots_20071127/image4.jpg


Nagano
http://images.ctv.ca/gallery/photo/olympic_mascots_20071127/image5.jpg


Atlanta
http://images.ctv.ca/gallery/photo/olympic_mascots_20071127/image6.jpg


Albertville
http://images.ctv.ca/gallery/photo/olympic_mascots_20071127/image8.jpg

I love them. Well done VANOC!

DUDE I LIVE IN vancouver this is the STUPIDEST SHIT I HAVE EVER SEEN WHY HAVE MADE UP ANIMALS LAAAAMMMMMEEEEE. Why not just have a Raccoon an Otter and a Grizzley bear there all cute all marketable and all ACTUALLY EXSITS!

^^ Creativity.

quatchi!! yay

DUDE I LIVE IN vancouver this is the STUPIDEST SHIT I HAVE EVER SEEN WHY HAVE MADE UP ANIMALS LAAAAMMMMMEEEEE. Why not just have a Raccoon an Otter and a Grizzley bear there all cute all marketable and all ACTUALLY EXSITS!

It's something called creativity and imagination....having simply representations of animals has been done way too many times.

The mascots combine native folklore (their names are native) with a west coast feel.

The mascots combine native folklore (their names are native) with a west coast feel.

Which makes these mascots so awsome.

Man, I still can't get over those designs. They're incredible, especially compared to the mascots of other Olympics.

Once again, well done VANOC!

Mascot merchandise will be available TOMORROW at HBC stores nation wide.

Also tomorrow, the mascots will be in Toronto tomorrow to kick off a nation-wide campaign.

YouTube video of the mascot promotion video:
OB5dDE_PD34

Best Mascot ever.
http://www.todoslosmundiales.com.ar/mundiales/1986mexico/images/mascot86.jpg

Venues in the Sochi Olympic Park are:

*Olympic Stadium
*Major Ice Palace
*Minor Ice Palace
*Sochi Olympic Curling Centre
*Olympic Skating Centre (to be exhibition hall)
*Olympic Oval (to be marketplace)

Personally i'm all for these games going to Russia and Sochi. Good luck!

As for whether the best city won or not. The answers is yes it did. Vancouver wasn't the best city when it bid by far yet they will soon be hosting the games next is Russia's turn. Good for them.

i cant wait ......good luck SOCHI

As for whether the best city won or not. The answers is yes it did. Vancouver wasn't the best city when it bid by far yet they will soon be hosting the games next is Russia's turn. Good for them.

Eh? In the 2010 race Vancouver simply was the best bid on offer. Pyeongchang simply didn't have the stamina to take on an international city like Vancouver. The IOC is shying away from hosting the Winter Games in villages like Pyeongchang and looking to small/mid sized cities. Those days ended after Lillehammer in 1994.

Vancouver was the best choice for 2010. Salzburg and Pyeongchang never stood a chance.

Any pics of the venues?

Honestly, I was expecting boring regurgitated crap, but VANOC got these bang on. They are going to sell very well.

Eh? In the 2010 race Vancouver simply was the best bid on offer. Pyeongchang simply didn't have the stamina to take on an international city like Vancouver. The IOC is shying away from hosting the Winter Games in villages like Pyeongchang and looking to small/mid sized cities. Those days ended after Lillehammer in 1994.

Vancouver was the best choice for 2010. Salzburg and Pyeongchang never stood a chance.

I think he meant based on the IOC technical evaluation.

It's about time Russia got the Winter Olympics. Russia has been a major Olympics powerhouse for a very long time. I hope they find a way of giving the games to Finland and Sweden in the near future. Both of these nations deserve to host also.

Quatchi will eat the other ones before the Olympics begin....

I might be bias but is this the only decent bunch of mascots?

Sydney
http://images.ctv.ca/gallery/photo/olympic_mascots_20071127/image4.jpg


As for VAN2020, well their pretty decent.

I like them, especially the big one.

Quatchi will eat the other ones before the Olympics begin....

Well, Quatchi is outselling the other 2 put together.

AriGold:

What's VAN2020? The Vancouver Games are in 2 years, not 12. As far as the Sydney mascots go, perhaps you are right about being biased. Those mascots couldn't possibly have sold very well. If I am wrong, my apologies, but they look something out of the 19th century. Did people buy those? Honestly, your own pic would probably sell better.

they look like japanese cartoons.

Japanese animation has had alot of influence on western culture. I grew up with this kind of imagery, so to me, it doesn't feel foreign at all. I do see the association though. These creatures pay homage to British Columbia wildlife and BC First Nations culture. The names are First Nations as is a Thunderbird.

Vanoc were smart to go with this style. It appeals to the target market, kids, but also to a huge segment of the Vancouver market and consumers in Asia.

Quatchi - Depending on size, $30-40
http://shop.hbc.com/images/catalog/67818039l.jpg


Sumi - depending on size, $25-30
http://shop.hbc.com/images/catalog/67817809l.jpg


Miga - depending on size, $25-30
http://shop.hbc.com/images/catalog/67814855l.jpg


Vancouver 2010 Mascot Book - This 32 page book tells the story about the Olympic and Paralympic mascots for Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics. $15.00
http://shop.hbc.com/images/catalog/67275610l.jpg


Mascot Boys Pop-over Hoodie Sweater. $40.00
http://shop.hbc.com/images/catalog/67608943l.jpg
http://shop.hbc.com/images/catalog/67612838l.jpg


$18.00
http://shop.hbc.com/images/catalog/67613521l.jpg



$50.00
http://shop.hbc.com/images/catalog/67612663l.jpg

YouTube video of the mascot promotion video:
OB5dDE_PD34

The promo video is fantastic. You can almost envision it becoming a global sensation as a kids cartoon, video game, and clothing line, etc.

What's VAN2020? The Vancouver Games are in 2 years, not 12. As far as the Sydney mascots go, perhaps you are right about being biased. Those mascots couldn't possibly have sold very well. If I am wrong, my apologies, but they look something out of the 19th century. Did people buy those? Honestly, your own pic would probably sell better.
Yeah i know the games are in two years as the mascots are already out. Like how many mascots do you see 12 years out from the actual event?

As for the Sydney part... well they actually look like mascots. Not some stupid stick figure with happy faces on them. These are actual animals and represent something and somewhere. Heck even the names represent something.

Oh and yes the pic of Ari Gold would bring sheer enjoyment to everyone.

What does actual mascot mean? Mascots are supposed to be real animals? Not sure where you got that idea. A mascot is "a person or thing that is supposed to bring good luck or that is used to symbolize a particular event or organization". Perhaps read IOC literature. Their definition is practically the same.

Besides, a Thunderbird has huge significance to Canadian First Nations people. A sasquatch is part of local folklore, and the other creature represents 2 BC animals. It is actually fitting that it is a mixture. That pays homage to not only First Nation's culture, but the Canadian reality. In addition, their names are taken from local First Nations languages.

"Stupid stick figure": You should also keep in mind that Olympic mascots are for children, not you and I. They aren't meant to be intellectually stimulating to an adult. The purpose is merchandising revenue generation. I doubt the IOC finds them stupid. They sold out in minutes.

Who ever Ari Gold is, he's certainly more appealing than those mascots you posted, but everyone's taste is different.

LOL! They're awesome. They're cute! In my opinion, best mascots ever. :)

What does actual mascot mean? Mascots are supposed to be real animals? Not sure where you got that idea. A mascot is "a person or thing that is supposed to bring good luck or that is used to symbolize a particular event or organization". Perhaps read IOC literature. Their definition is practically the same.
Maybe i phrased it wrong but what i meant was "Arent mascots meant to represent something significant?" Not exactly sure about each set of mascots history and story etc but some of them just seem to represent nothing.

Besides, a Thunderbird has huge significance to Canadian First Nations people. A sasquatch is part of local folklore, and the other creature represents 2 BC animals. It is actually fitting that it is a mixture. That pays homage to not only First Nation's culture, but the Canadian reality. In addition, their names are taken from local First Nations languages.
Well I did say these look pretty good.

"Stupid stick figure": You should also keep in mind that Olympic mascots are for children, not you and I. They aren't meant to be intellectually stimulating to an adult. The purpose is merchandising revenue generation. I doubt the IOC finds them stupid. They sold out in minutes.
Im aware of that. But im sure kids would appeal more to a Kangaroo or Koala bear then some stick-man.

Fair enough. This is probably a case of your familiarity and appreciation with Australian culture/history and mine with Canadian. Imagery can seem puzzling and pointless to a foreigner until you dig a little deeper.

What is important is that they appeal to Canadians first, are rooted in Canadian culture/history, have significance to Canadians, sell well, and have as broad an appeal as possible beyond our borders once these criteria are met. It's quite possible that the 2010 VANOC mascots won't appeal to Australian sensibilities, but it's impossible to appeal to everyone.

The Canadian version of a Kangaroo or Koala would have been a bear, caribou (reindeer), wolf, polar bear, bison (buffalo), or moose, but there was significant interest in Canada to move beyond traditional stereotypes and imagery. The introduction of these mascots to the world was an attempt to inject a level of creativity and broadened the scope of what one traditionally associates with Canada by incorporating often overlooked symbols.

nice !

Haha I love them!

Should we make this an official thread for the 2014 Winter Olympics, or is there already an official thread?

I like the venues, don't like the location!

Khanty-Mansiysk!!! Sochi is a summer resort, giving them winter Olympics was stupid, it should have been held in Siberia!

I like Sochi, but after Sochi wins, i believe any city can win. Sochi has almost no olympic venues for 2014. Everything will be built from zero.

This is something I really can't understand from the IOC. I believe that every voter just decide in the last minute or get conveinced by a persuading speech or cute video presentation.

Anyawy, Russia can organise one of the greatest olympic winter editions without doubt, but I may prefer the russians to pay attention in their own social problems, before investing for just a small population. Just like China, they show off.

Hopefully, this will be a great impetus to get Russia back near the top of the medal tables. After decades of domination, the break up of the Soviet Union seemed to mark a gradual decline in the Russian sports machine. It was a little sad to see a great rival falter. Turin hinted that we might see a Russian resurgence.

Things could get interesting by 2014 with Russia hosting especially if China can duplicate in winter sports what it is achieving in summer sports. We could possibly see an exciting new pecking order at the top: Russia, China, Germany, the USA, and Canada. Traditionally strong Norway and Austria? They may need continued domination of skiing to keep up.

All right, so I read this article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/may/25/2) highlighting the money being reinvested into the Russian sporting infrastructure by their new found billionaires. (I'll reserve comment on the virtues of these individuals for another day...) The subject suggests Russia will strongly consider a 2018 bid because...
'In three to five years we will have maybe 10 of the best stadiums in the world,' says Chernov. 'The work has already started. St Petersburg, Rostov, Samara, Kazan, Volgograd, three in Moscow... It will take time, but Russia will join the big football nations.
Now I know about Zenit (63k?) and a couple others but am unfamiliar with all of these, let alone if these would in fact be World Cup worthy. I thought the new Spartak stadium would be about 35k. StadiumGuide and WorldStadiums don't have many of these listed. Anyone here have more info about these proposals/construction projects that I could see them in a comprehensive list? Thanks for any assistance. :)

i just know these ones
SAINT PETERSBURG - Gazprom Arena (62,167)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=459203

MOSCOW - Stadion CSKA (30,000)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=481413

MOSCOW - Stadion FK Spartak (42,000)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=407249

money they are investing is great but do they think they can compete with english and spanish league i'm sorry but i don't think so.But russian league could compete with the italian league

I think the Italian TV income is huuge like in Spain.
And i do not think that many star players would prefer the russian league (no offense :D )

Kaka, Christiano Ronaldo will play in the big 3 leagues.
Maybe with 34-36 they could move to the smaller football nations like Turkey :D

I think they'll have no problem signing some South Americans, Asians or Africans for big money, but I cant see any Western Europeans moving to Russia to play their football anytime soon so will struggle to get into the big leagues.

I've no fear of the league usurping the likes of La Liga or the Premiership anytime soon, as the global appeal and local gate receipts won't be there to warrant continued high rates of reinvestment by the oligarchs. Until their attendance figures reach, say, a 20k avg and they begin to warrant global media deals, there won't be anything but overly-high wages to lure the international stars. As such, "it ain't happenin!" Not yet, anyway.

For that reason, I fail to see why they (whoever 'they' are in this sense) are considering a WC bid when domestically they'll have no need for 10-12 stadiums surpassing 40k. Better to stick with something in the high 20's and low 30's like the uber-TV-friendly Lokomotiv Stadium. And if they are indeed going for broke, why haven't we heard more about here?

I think they'll have no problem signing some South Americans, Asians or Africans for big money, but I cant see any Western Europeans moving to Russia to play their football anytime soon so will struggle to get into the big leagues.

Players go where the money is, if someone said that some of the best and most expensive players would be lining up to play for chelsea in the spring of 2003 (just before abramovic) would you have believed them?

Now the russian league is a long way off from challenging the big 3 in terms of quality and revenue from tv and tickets, but they have a huge population (150m) and as the income of these people grows so will the tv deals and ticket prices. However appart from zenit im surprised that the other stadiums are less than 40K, a fine fit maybe for current attendances but very shortsighted IMO.

Players go where the money is, if someone said that some of the best and most expensive players would be lining up to play for chelsea in the spring of 2003 (just before abramovic) would you have believed them?

Now the russian league is a long way off from challenging the big 3 in terms of quality and revenue from tv and tickets, but they have a huge population (150m) and as the income of these people grows so will the tv deals and ticket prices. However appart from zenit im surprised that the other stadiums are less than 40K, a fine fit maybe for current attendances but very shortsighted IMO.

It's not just money, it's also lifestyle and I'm guessing international players find the London lifestyle slightly more attractive then the Moscow one as it's more cosmopolitan perhaps.

^^
I guess you have a point London, Milan, Madrid are great cities but we are talking about footballers after all, so if a city offers good shopping and lots of easy cute girls thats more than enough to entice young rich men to go there :D

But as far as the russian league and its future there is definetely a lot of untaped potential, i dont think it will overtake the EPL but it will give some of the otherones a run for their money, however to trully do that the clubs have to be self-sustainable and not rely on rich individuals throwing money down the drain endlessly.

Building modern stadiums is a big step in that direction but im dissapointed with the capacity apart from zenit's 63K, they are below the fifa requirement of 40K for world cup maybe theyll go for the euros instead?

Sorry for going a bit off-topic

Russian Stadium Boom thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=486660)on Russian Forum

Maybe Russia would like the World Cup host to be selected by sms voting ;)

:lol:
Damn Chimaera
i was drinking water by reading it
i am gonna die :D

Russian Stadium Boom thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=486660)on Russian Forum

What's the capacity of Terek Grozny Stadium in the thread?

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ext/stadium/03.jpg

What's the capacity of Terek Grozny Stadium in the thread?

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ext/stadium/03.jpg

I wouldnt mind seeing Russia bid for the euros (providing Visa regulations were eased like for the UCL final) but think a few teams might kick up a fuss about playing in Grozny, shame cause it looks a lovely stadium.

Russia could go into a state of revolution at the drop of a hat. Too unstable to have a World Cup.

Latest build stadium in Russia!


Arena Himki .
Oppened 20.09.08
Capasity 18.000
Home Arena for: Himki & Dinamo Moscow
Location Himki - Moscow Region

http://www.fcdynamo.ru/images/stadium_h/tr_a_obsch.jpg
http://www.fcdynamo.ru/images/stadium_h/tr_a.jpg
http://www.fcdynamo.ru/images/stadium_h/tr_b.jpg
http://www.fcdynamo.ru/images/stadium_h/tr_d.jpg
http://www.fcdynamo.ru/images/stadium_h/tr_c.jpg

What happened to Dinamo Stadium
And who is Himki?

Dinamo Moscow will play on this stadium until its own stadium will be on reconstruction
http://img.beta.rian.ru/images/16656/09/166560936.jpg

Himki fotball Club http://www.fckhimki.ru/

This thread is a hot mess,most of the pages here are not about new stadiums in Russia ,there's only talks about Sochi 2014 . Just on the last pages there's some light about the projects, but very few information about their status right now. I've seen the discussion on the Russian forum and it seems more complete, but I can't read Russian and I don't understand what's going on there. But I liked what I've seen so far, and I hope everthing promised gets built eventually. But I'd be great if some mod fixed this thread and delete all those posts about Sochi , I'm sure there's another one talking about these Games. :)

^^ Use google translator it really helps ! not all will be translated corecetly, but you can get an ideo of what we are talking about :) http://translate.google.com/

yeah mods should delet all thes off top x) I think this tred was about sochi, but then ther renamed it to Stadium and Arena Development News ;)

^^ Thanks buddy, I'm sure this translator will help me a lot :)

Stadium Zenit

by Aido-s co

16.04.09
http://www.aido-s.ru/forum/zenit/16042009/1.jpg

How is the re-birth of Russian horse racing going. Before the revolution Russia was the place to race, the best horses, trainers and jockeys would flock there. Moscow's Hippodrome and St. Petersburg are legendary. I have been hearing things in the last few years about a rebirth and considering Russia is reknown for her love of horses, I was wondering how it was going there?

I only know of the new track and facilities constructed at Kazan. Moscow still uses the old Hippodrome but I hear it is mainly for troika racing and not for proper gallops like you get in the major nations of Australia, Britain, Ireland, France and USA.

Stadium CSKA Moscow

11.05.09

http://s55.radikal.ru/i150/0905/dd/7c79fe23bb88.jpg


Stadium Zenit

12.05.09

http://s44.radikal.ru/i106/0905/0b/d0c45025982b.jpg

http://s48.radikal.ru/i119/0905/6f/d503492b1567.jpg

there's already a thread for them at "under construction" section ^^

Zenit http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=459203&page=8

CSKA http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=481413&page=4

Here is a new thread about russian stadiums witch already exist but in english so that people that don't speak russian can understand.

(updated on 22.07.09)

St. Petersburg (62000) – November 2010 – «Zenit»
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Kazan (45000) – 2012 – «Rubin» (final project will be chosen on 27 July)

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Moscow (40000) – 2013 – «Spartak»

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http://h.imagehost.org/t/0595/32.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0595/32)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0005/imageSM.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0005/imageSM)

Sochi (40000) – 2013

http://h.imagehost.org/t/0204/61043328.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0204/61043328)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0416/33.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0416/33)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0196/34.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0196/34)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0600/35.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0600/35)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0002/36.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0002/36)
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Moscow (35000) – 2012 – «Dinamo» (reconstruction)

http://h.imagehost.org/t/0200/38.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0200/38)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0313/g1.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0313/g1)

Moscow (30000) – 2010 – «CSKA»

http://h.imagehost.org/t/0838/3.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0838/3)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0238/4.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0238/4)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0141/5.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0141/5)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0571/1_6.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0571/1_6)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0041/2.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0041/2)

Ekaterinburg (30000) – 2010 – «Ural» (reconstruction)

http://h.imagehost.org/t/0108/6.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0108/6)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0470/7.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0470/7)

Yaroslavl (30000) – 2010 – «Shinnik» (reconstruction)

http://h.imagehost.org/t/0270/8.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0270/8)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0775/12.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0775/12)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0168/9.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0168/9)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0066/10.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0066/10)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0375/11.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0375/11)

Grozny (30000) – 2010 – «Terek»

http://h.imagehost.org/t/0454/13.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0454/13)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0120/14_7.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0120/14_7)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0019/15.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0019/15)http://h.imagehost.org/t/0919/16.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0919/16)

Novosibirsk (30000) – 2013 – «Sibir»

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Mods, I will update this message as new info will be known about every new project. So maybe it's better to replace the first post of thread?

Moscow has these existing or future stadiums:

Luzhniki Stadium
Dinamo Stadium
Lokomotiv Stadium
CSKA Stadium
Spartak Stadium

What happened to the restructuring project of the Dinamo Stadium?

Jim, yes you are correct.
To your list we have to add another stadium in Moscow though. It is called "Eduard Streltsov Stadium" and is home ground for FC Moskva (currently #3 in RFPL).

As for Dinamo, latest I saw in the media, that they are about to start demolishing an old one very soon.

Venues for games of the XXIst Winter Olympiad:)

mmm, where are they?

What for this theme?

XXIst Winter Olympiad

Dammit stop opening threads about Sochi.

If you want to contribute something then do something, we arent going to do the work for you.

Post your own damn info.

Dammit stop opening threads about Sochi.

If you want to contribute something then do something, we arent going to do the work for you.

Post your own damn info.

wow. so bitchy! :lol:

It may be a little bitchy, but it's fact, you go to a thread like this expecting info right out of the bid books and maybe pictures of venue renderings and such but you get nil.

This is pointless, especially for a noob, anyhow, if you do need information, check out the actual bid books at the bid library (2014 Applicant and Bid files):
http://www.thebidlibrary.com/

wow. so bitchy! :lol:

This isnt the first time hes made this thread.

RUSSIA - Stadium and Arena Development News (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=634912)

Ice-skating Arena in the City of Sochi

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ext/sochy_led/01.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ext/sochy_led/02.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ext/sochy_led/03.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ext/sochy_led/04.jpg

http://dva3.ru//pictures/vis/ext/sochy_led/05.jpg

http://icube.ru/files/works/images/b_tsentralnyij_olimpijskij_stadion_sochi_214124948433910.jpg

http://icube.ru/files/works/images/b_tsentralnyij_olimpijskij_stadion_sochi_21412494843527.jpg

http://icube.ru/files/works/images/b_tsentralnyij_olimpijskij_stadion_sochi_21412494844686.jpg

http://icube.ru/files/works/images/b_tsentralnyij_olimpijskij_stadion_sochi_21412494844799.jpg

http://icube.ru/files/works/images/b_tsentralnyij_olimpijskij_stadion_sochi_21412494844901.jpg

http://icube.ru/files/works/images/b_tsentralnyij_olimpijskij_stadion_sochi_21412494845002.jpg

^^ This render of Sochi stadium was made by 2 guys during 2 days, and this is still not a final project.

More stadiums of Sochi 2014:

Big Ice Arena (12,000):

http://www.mostovik.ru/site/images/Новости/РИСУНОК4.jpg

http://www.mostovik.ru/site/images/Новости/arena/ARENA_SM.jpg

http://www.mostovik.ru/site/images/Новости/MORD09_DSC8537.jpg

http://www.mostovik.ru/site/images/Новости/MORD09_DSC8558.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_07.08_10_b.jpg?rand=636780949

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/bol_xokkei_14.08_1_b.jpg?rand=909335966

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/bol_xokkei_14.08_4_b.jpg?rand=89397503

Ice Palace (12,000):

http://s15.radikal.ru/i188/0908/2d/94bf15c6ec35.jpg

http://s58.radikal.ru/i162/0908/c4/20ad0e23eee9.jpg

http://i061.radikal.ru/0908/a1/4b48f859cc02.jpg

http://i058.radikal.ru/0908/e5/50ad88846c17.jpg

Curling Arena (3,000):

http://i016.radikal.ru/0908/be/be0cba79a495.jpg

http://i019.radikal.ru/0908/ae/78da81f391a5.jpg

http://i081.radikal.ru/0908/b1/f8a2be5a3ad8.jpg

http://s14.radikal.ru/i187/0908/35/ba52d0097c03.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/kerling_10b.jpg?rand=298155502

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/kerling_9b.jpg?rand=749423306

Photos from construction of Ice Palace:

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/FK_17.09_4_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/FK_17.09_2_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/FK_17.09_1_b.jpg

Ceremony of packing of the first cubic metre of concrete:

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/Kapsula_10_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/Kapsula_12_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/Kapsula_13_b.jpg

Jean-Claude Killy, head of IOC coordination commission:

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/Kapsula_6_b.jpg

Tatiana Navka, Gold olympic medalist in Ice dancing in Turin 2006:

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/Kapsula_2_b.jpg

Photos from construction of Big Ice Arena:

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_17.09.09_8_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_17.09.09_7_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_17.09.09_6_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_17.09.09_1_b.jpg

Have you any ski jumping hill in Sochi?

Have you any ski jumping hill in Sochi?

It will be:

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/tr_2.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/tr_4.jpg

You know, this new Spartak Stadium give me a big Deza-vu

You know, this new Spartak Stadium give me a big Deza-vu

Example :) ?

POPULOUS SELECTED TO DESIGN SOCHI 2014 MAIN STADIUM

Date: September 29, 2009

http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/pictures/595xAny/3/4/7/1212347_Sochi_2014_Olympics.jpg

The global design practice Populous is delighted to announce today that it has been selected by the State Corporation ‘Olympstroy’ to design the main stadium for the 2014 Winter Olympic and Paralympic Games in Sochi, Russia.

Populous has also designed the master plan and overlay plan for competition and non-competition venues and facilities, and now adds designing the main 40,000 seat stadium to their expanding role on the 2014 Games. Populous is joined in the design consortium by Russian contractor Engeocom, and Botta Management.

"The main stadium design, in addition to the venue overlay plan we have prepared for the 2014 Games, delivers a wonderful vision for the winter Olympics, and a lasting sustainable legacy for Sochi. Its sweeping form responds to both its coastal location and mountainous backdrop, whilst its crystalline skin engages with its surroundings by day, and provides an iconic representation of the colour and spectacle of the games when illuminated at night. We are proud to be involved on such a level with Olympstroy," said John Barrow, Populous senior principal.

This is the 25th year of Populous' involvement in Olympic and Paralympic Games, and we are now the first design practice to have been officially appointed for the design of two Olympic Stadiums at one time. With Populous being the architects responsible for the main Stadium and venues overlay for the London 2012 Games, designing for Sochi 2014 ensures the continuation of the practice’s unrivalled experience in Olympic event planning and venue design. Each of these stadiums reflects new standards for Olympic sustainability initiatives.
http://www.populous.com/news/090929_Sochi/

http://www.russia2018-2022.com/

http://i.imagehost.org/0929/2018.jpghttp://i.imagehost.org/0367/2018_2.jpg

NORTHERN CLUSTER
Kaliningrad (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/kaliningrad.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1291/Kaliningrad_Small.jpg
St. Petersburg (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/st-petersburg.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1319/SaintPet_Small.jpg

CENTRAL CLUSTER
Moscow (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/moscow.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1303/Moscow_Small.jpg
Podolsk (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/podolsk.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1311/Podolsk_Small.jpg

VOLGA CLUSTER
Kazan (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/kazan.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1295/Kazan_Small.jpg
Nizhny Novgorod (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/nizhny-novgorod.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1307/Nizhny_Small.jpg
Yaroslavl (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/yaroslavl.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1339/Yaroslavl_Small.jpg
Samara (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/samara.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1323/Samara_Small.jpg
Volgograd (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/volgograd.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1335/Volgograd_Small.jpg
Saransk (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/saransk.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1327/Saransk_Small.jpg

SOUTHERN CLUSTER
Krasnodar (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/krasnodar.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1299/Krasnodar_small.jpg
Rostov-on-Don (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/rostov-on-don.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1315/Rustov_Small.jpg
Sochi (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/sochi.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1331/Sochi_Small.jpg

EAST OF URAL
Ekaterinburg (http://www.russia2018-2022.com/en/the-bid/host-cities/yekaterinburg.aspx)
http://www.russia2018-2022.com/media/1343/Yekaterinburg_Small.jpg

^^ Is it known already how many stadiums they will use?
I'm a bit surprised to see Kaliningrad there. They don't have a team in the highest division at the moment and there current stadium holds about 15'000.
I also don't understand why they use Podolsk instead of a second stadium in Moscow. They don't have a team in the top divison either and I highly doubt they need a 40k+ stadium in this small city.

^^ Is it known already how many stadiums they will use?
I'm a bit surprised to see Kaliningrad there. They don't have a team in the highest division at the moment and there current stadium holds about 15'000.
I also don't understand why they use Podolsk instead of a second stadium in Moscow. They don't have a team in the top divison either and I highly doubt they need a 40k+ stadium in this small city.
Don't forget that it's 9 years (!) to 2018 and for that time "Baltica" Kaliningrad or "Zhemchuzhina" Sochi can play in Premier-League, because of help of sponsors. WC bid is a great opportunity to develop football in regions, except Moscow, St.Petersburg and Kazan, so they are doing right if they choosed these cities. I don't have enough info about Podolsk choice, it will be a push for football rising in Moscow region, maybe a stadium for national team. But I assure that Committee have exact ideas on this case if they choosed small city near Moscow. There will be 2 stadiums in Moscow - Luzhniki + one of builded for Spartak, CSKA or Dynamo.

,,.

October photos from construction of Big Ice Arena for Sochi 2014:

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_14oct_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_14oct_2_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_14oct_3_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_14oct_4_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_14oct_5_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_14oct_6_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_14oct_7_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_14oct_8_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_14oct_9_b.jpg

http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/BLA_14oct_10_b.jpg

Construction of Tennis Academy for Kazan 2013:

http://s48.radikal.ru/i121/0910/66/27efb89d1274.jpg

http://i008.radikal.ru/0910/90/8cf7169f9c92.jpg

http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/0910/cb/589e06c37fa7.jpg

Construction of football stadium in Grozny, Chechnya:

http://s09.radikal.ru/i182/0910/45/6967277a7f09.jpg

http://i039.radikal.ru/0910/e7/ff12b2375464.jpg

http://s48.radikal.ru/i120/0910/57/6a9df1df85b8.jpg

http://i038.radikal.ru/0910/f1/8a223a4447af.jpg

http://i020.radikal.ru/0910/21/e495aefd8b7b.jpg

http://i029.radikal.ru/0910/47/d3b6cbdce0a3.jpg

http://s58.radikal.ru/i159/0910/f7/eece9ad24d93.jpg

http://s53.radikal.ru/i140/0910/47/0366a1740cc3.jpg

I'm just curious about something: Would it be possible for someone to post what major stadiums (30,000+ capacity) currently exist; are being at this very moment constructed or renovated (i can only think of Zenit's new place and Sochi); are proposed/planned (would be helpful if you could add if they're approved and what year they're suppose to open).

Sorry if this sounds kind of demanding!!

Under Construction / Proposed (+30000) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40221420&postcount=170)

^^Thanks for that. which of those stadiums are currently under constructon? I am assuming that all those denoted as being ready for 2010 are. Also, why are the grounds of clubs like CSKA and Spartak sigificantly smaller than Zenit's and even Rubin's? I always saw those Moscow clubs as the traditional big boys of Russian football. Are they being designed so that expansion can easily take place? (like at Sunderland)

Cheers again.

Currently u/c are:
St. Petersburg (62000) - very intensive construction (http://spb-projects.ru/forum/files/___imgp3954_59_157.jpg).
Kazan (45000) - preparation of territory (http://airfoto.cheb.ru/foto/goroda/kazan2/IMG_7151.jpg), piles will be started to install in ~spring.
Sochi (40000) - preparation of territory (http://www.sc-olympstroy.ru/common/upload/Centr_14.10.09_2_b.jpg).
Moscow (35000) - not so much news about Dynamo reconstruction, but they surely began preparations. Final project will be in the end of the year and expanded to 40000.
Moscow (30000) - construction slowed down because of economic crisis, but continuing (http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3713/makzero.41/0_33968_8efa03a0_orig).
Ekaterinburg (30000) - reconstruction (http://ekburg.ru/UserFiles/image/newsPress/0/0/20/2004Big.jpg)
Yaroslavl (30000) – reconstruction (http://i023.radikal.ru/0909/c8/2719a131525a.jpg)
Grozny (30000) - very intensive construction (http://s09.radikal.ru/i182/0910/45/6967277a7f09.jpg)

Zenit and Rubin for last years rised in top-clubs, St.Petersburg and Kazan - big cities where everyone is a fan of their team.
In Moscow there are at least 5 clubs from Premier-League, and I think 30-40k is a normal capacity to make stadium full on every match (not half-empty), + there is Luzhniki (78k) which will be totally renovated as part of WC-2018 bid and can host biggest derbies.

BTW there are agreements that all stadiums for WC bid will be build no matter of FIFA decision, and it's great :) .

Very impressed. I can't think of another country building so much stadia without having some major sporting event coming in a few years. A bit of research shows me that the Russian Premier League is ranked as Europe's 6th best according to UEFA's coefficient ranking; its closer to Serie A than that league is to the Premiership. I said in another forum that the Russian WC bid could do a Rio; people are underestimating them.

Ekaterinburg (30000) - reconstruction
Yaroslavl (30000) – reconstruction

Yaroslavl and Ekaterinburg are possible host cities for word cup
Minimum capacity for wc stadiums is 40000.

So my question is: Will those stadiums undergo another reconstruction, or brand new stadiums will bi built for wc?

Ekaterinburg (30000) - reconstruction
Yaroslavl (30000) – reconstruction

Yaroslavl and Ekaterinburg are possible host cities for word cup
Minimum capacity for wc stadiums is 40000.

So my question is: Will those stadiums undergo another reconstruction, or brand new stadiums will bi built for wc?
I can't say, it's too early for full information just because the bidding book is only in process (until may 2010). On that time, I assure, there will be a total picture of all bids.

I think the US has the upper hand here. The US has dozens of stadiums available for usage, while Russia only has one or two ready for use today.

And I think Miami, Dallas and Chicago are more desirable tourist visits than Gorsnyj, Jekaterinenburg and Königsberg... :)

I think the US has the upper hand here. The US has dozens of stadiums available for usage, while Russia only has one or two ready for use today.

And I think Miami, Dallas and Chicago are more desirable tourist visits than Gorsnyj, Jekaterinenburg and Königsberg... :)
1) 2018 will be 99% in Europe, so Russia and US don't compete here.
2) World Cups in USA don't make football more attractive for Americans, why host a biggest football event in country with low popularity? Russia deserves it more because it never hosted it, and for last years football in Russia rised on few levels and developing very fast. Main sport in on of the most sport country.
3) I don't think that USA will host any future big events. 12 trillions $ debt are :nuts: .
4) Grozny is not in bid. And why do you think that US cities are more "desirable tourist visits"? US have little history in compare with Russia. Kazan, Yaroslavl - cities with more than 1000 years history. Volgograd (Stalingrad) is one of the most important city in XX century of humanity (as whole Western part of Russia). Moscow, St. Petersburg - no comments. Sometimes people want to see beautiful and important hystoric places instead of typical skyscrapers. I totally disagree with you here. Example - Dubai. Yes, a lot of modern architecture, huge projects, but no history. What guides will tell to visitors? How this and that skyscraper was built, how many dollars was payed,..?

Problem with Russia hosting the World Cup is it is hard for tourists to get visas. There is too much red tape. Sort this out, open the borders it would improve the odds of Russia hosting the event.

Until then, it'll never happen.

I think the US has the upper hand here. The US has dozens of stadiums available for usage, while Russia only has one or two ready for use today.

And I think Miami, Dallas and Chicago are more desirable tourist visits than Gorsnyj, Jekaterinenburg and Königsberg... :)

I agree, even though football isn't popular in the US that much, it will atleast be better that they will get more football stadiums, other than having a lot of nice and modern american football stadiums, hockey arena's, basketball arena's etc.

Problem with Russia hosting the World Cup is it is hard for tourists to get visas. There is too much red tape. Sort this out, open the borders it would improve the odds of Russia hosting the event.

Until then, it'll never happen.
There will be no problem with that. For such big event like WC there will be no need to have a visa for fans, for sure. I even don't think that it's a problem for Bidding Committee. They are professionals, who know their deal.

I agree, even though football isn't popular in the US that much, it will atleast be better that they will get more football stadiums, other than having a lot of nice and modern american football stadiums, hockey arena's, basketball arena's etc.

Agreed. The other problem with Russia is the stability of the nation is quite shakey at best. Who knows when there will be more political upheaval there. Sooner or later Putin will move to the French Riviera/London with his billions of stolen roubles(2nd wealthiest man in the world now, which is obscene for a public servant).

Agreed. The other problem with Russia is the stability of the nation is quite shakey at best. Who knows when there will be more political upheaval there. Sooner or later Putin will move to the French Riviera/London with his billions of stolen roubles(2nd wealthiest man in the world now, which is obscene for a public servant).
This is a very questionable. Politics is in other branch of forum. Here is a thread about Stadium and Arena Development, no?

1) 2018 will be 99% in Europe, so Russia and US don't compete here.
What? 2018 will be 100% in whatever country gets it.

2) World Cups in USA don't make football more attractive for Americans, why host a biggest football event in country with low popularity? Russia deserves it more because it never hosted it, and for last years football in Russia rised on few levels and developing very fast. Main sport in on of the most sport country.
Sure it did, WC94 made football alot bigger.

I'm sorry, but the "we deserve it"-argument is lousy, and makes you sound like a looser.
You dont derserve anything. You earn it. Make a good enough bid and you get it. Plain and simple.

3) I don't think that USA will host any future big events. 12 trillions $ debt are :nuts: .
What does that have to do with anything? The US government hasn't got anything to do with this.
And what should they pay for? The stadiums are ready, the cities have to hotels.

Ready to launch.

4) Grozny is not in bid. And why do you think that US cities are more "desirable tourist visits"? US have little history in compare with Russia. Kazan, Yaroslavl - cities with more than 1000 years history. Volgograd (Stalingrad) is one of the most important city in XX century of humanity (as whole Western part of Russia). Moscow, St. Petersburg - no comments. Sometimes people want to see beautiful and important hystoric places instead of typical skyscrapers. I totally disagree with you here. Example - Dubai. Yes, a lot of modern architecture, huge projects, but no history. What guides will tell to visitors? How this and that skyscraper was built, how many dollars was payed,..?

Which city has the most tourists annually; Chicago or Kazan? Volgograd or Miami? That should settle what people want to see.
I'm not saying that these places arent interesting, but if we're talking spectator-friendliness, I think the american cities are better prepared for the WC than the russian cities.

Besides, you have alot of history in the US, especially on the east coast.

I agree, even though football isn't popular in the US that much, it will atleast be better that they will get more football stadiums, other than having a lot of nice and modern american football stadiums, hockey arena's, basketball arena's etc.

Yes, and the attendance will be massive. I assume the current record of attendance to game's are still from the

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Why so serious? You are very offensive, relax. If you want to promote US bid, write in their thread, not here. Russia and USA is not competing here, because 2018 - European bids (Europe, S.Africa, S.America, Europe?), 2022 - others.
This is a thread of stadium development, don't write your offtop here.

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I'm sorry, but the "we deserve it"-argument is lousy, and makes you sound like a looser.
You dont derserve anything. You earn it. Make a good enough bid and you get it. Plain and simple.


Yes and you should earn the right by having an established football culture (or by having contributed to the game). And if you have a football culture you deserve to hold the world cup.

The world cup should be a reward not an incentive or catalyst.

Why so serious? You are very offensive, relax. If you want to promote US bid, write in their thread, not here. Russia and USA is not competing here, because 2018 - European bids (Europe, S.Africa, S.America, Europe?), 2022 - others.
This is a thread of stadium development, don't write your offtop here.

I'm not offensive or serious. I was meerely making a observation.

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Sochi 2014: Small Ice Hockey Arena (7000)

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Sochi 2014: Construction of the Curling Arena (3000)

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Sochi 2014: Construction of the Big Ice Arena (12000)

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Our Brand

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The modern Olympic Games were conceived by visionaries who set new standards and found new ways for development. They believed that sport engenders trust and cooperation between cultures and nations. Sochi 2014 is striving to make Russia’s first Winter Games an embodiment of peaceful, productive dialogue between peoples.

The Sochi 2014 brand encompasses our commitment to the values symbolized by the Olympic rings, demonstrating our continued support for the universal ideals of the entire Olympic Movement.

The brand is the result of our commitment to innovation; a key element of the overarching Games message that Sochi 2014 is the Gateway to the Future.

The Sochi 2014 emblem maintains a dialogue between the past and the future. Fusing various dimensions of Russian culture, the brand can promote several images of our vibrant country:
A country rich in history, embarking on a successful future
A country open to opportunities and the passion to make dreams a reality
A country that is committed to equality and celebrates diversity.

The city of Sochi sits at the meeting point of the sea and the mountains. This is reflected in the Sochi 2014 emblem, which is like the sea acting as a mirror to reflect the mountains.

Sochi 2014’s inspirational new brand allows everyone across the world to see the Winter Games in Sochi as a celebration of opportunity: a chance for growth, transformation and personal fulfillment.

Sochi 2014 will be a Winter Games for the people; celebrating human excellence and aspiration.

The Sochi 2014 brand embraces change and encourages everyone to welcome development. It combines both function and the courage to try the new. It is a 21st Century brand for a digital generation.

The Sochi 2014 brand fits perfectly with our commitment to use the digital revolution to help young people experience sport for the first time; with a view to active participation and long term engagement with sport and Olympism.

The Olympic Games cannot guarantee positive change across all aspects of life on their own, but they can inspire! If every Russian embraces change by first looking at how to better themselves, the Olympic Games can become the catalyst for positive change in our cities and the inspiration for our people. We can improve attitudes in Russia towards people living with perceived disabilities; we need healthier children and new, modern infrastructure; and we need the positive change that the Games can bring forward.

Today we echo the excited exclamation of Yuri Gagarin as he became the first man in space. Today we embrace the future. Today we shout POEHALI! (Let’s go!)
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Project of the Rubin Kazan stadium looks really great! Is there any date estimate on when they are planning to start this?

Project of the Rubin Kazan stadium looks really great! Is there any date estimate on when they are planning to start this?
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They are planning to begin in March-May 2010 and to finish in 2012 for Universiade Kazan 2013.

Sports Palace Cosmos (Belgorod)
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Small Hall "Luzhniki" (Moscow)
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SH "Dinamo" (Moscow)
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Sport Complex Olympisky (Moscow)
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Molot Sports Hall (Perm)
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Sochi 2014 Ambassadors

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Natalia Vodianova (http://sochi2014.com/107113)

"Sochi 2014 is a major opportunity for Russia and the world to embrace sport and healthy living, but also to help build understanding and friendship between people from different cultures. For many people, it will be the first time they see Russia in a different light. As we celebrate Russia's first ever dedicated Paralympic Day in Russia, I'm proud to take this new role for Sochi 2014. Ultimately, our first Winter Games will help create greater awareness and better understanding of the millions of people who live with perceived disabilities in our country."

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Sergey Shilov (http://sochi2014.com/107118)

"It is a big honor for me to become an Ambassador of Russia’s first ever Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games on this remarkable day. It is very important that in 2014, Sochi will host not only the Olympic, but also the Paralympic Winter Games. All sports venues and infrastructure will be designed to accommodate the needs of people with disabilities and Sochi itself will become a city of equality."

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Diana Gurtskaya (http://sochi2014.com/107109)

"I am honored to become an Ambassador of Russia’s first ever Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games on this remarkable day! I am glad that more and more attention is being devoted to what is right for people with disabilities, because in 2014, our country must be ready to welcome not only the Olympic, but also the Paralympic Games."

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Kazbek Khamitsaev (http://sochi2014.com/107103)

"Climbers know that when conquering the summit, you suddenly acquire a second wind. We wish the Sochi Games organizers to always move forward- from peak to peak- and ultimately, to conquer the main summit and hold the best Olympic and Paralympic Games."

Expedition leader. Leader of three expeditions to Mount Everest. Climbed Mount Everest. Author of the first ever professional video shoot at the top of Mount Everest. Author of the world’s first photo shoot of the north wall of Mount Everest from the base (6250m) to the top (8848m).

Head of four expeditions to Pamir and Tien Shan mountains, passing the five 7,000m peaks: Lenin Peak (7134m), Korzhenevskaya Peak (7105m), Communism Peak, the highest peak of the USSR (7495m), Khan Tengri (7010m), and Pobeda Peak (7439m).”Snow Leopard.” Three-time climber on Europe’s highest summit, Mount Elbrus (5642m). Thirteen-time climber on North Ossetia-Alania’s highest summit, Mount Kazbek (5033m).

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Sergey Fedorov (http://sochi2014.com/103668)

"Since Sochi was awarded the right to host the 2014 Games, all Russian athletes are united by a single dream: to be crowned Olympic Champion in our home country. As I have become an Ambassador, my Olympic Games begins today – being a Sochi 2014 Ambassador is as exciting as when I used to enter the ice rink for competition. However, it is a big responsibility, as I am representing the entire country."

Sergei Fedorov is a Russian professional ice hockey forward currently playing for Metallurg Magnitogorsk of the Kontinental Hockey League (KHL).

Sergey is 3 time World Champion and 3 time Stanley Cup Champion, Hart Memorial Trophy owner.

He gained fame playing for the Detroit Red Wings before tenures with the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, Columbus Blue Jackets, and lastly the Washington Capitals. On October 25, 2008, Fedorov passed Alexander Mogilny to set a record for most goals by a Russian-born NHL player, scoring his 475th goal.

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Svetlana Khorkina (http://sochi2014.com/103662)

"I’m sincerely honored to be an Ambassador for Russia’s first ever Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games. It is noteworthy that the Games in Sochi are not only about multi-sport competition, but they also promise very important cultural and educational changes for the people of Russia, and will leave a positive, sustainable Olympic legacy for future generations!"

I regard Sochi 2014’s initiative to establish a special Athletes’ Commission to cover all aspects of Sochi 2014 Games delivery as a real success. It is great that the Organizing Committee of the Olympic Winter Games has consulted athletes to understand their needs and recommendations. I am very proud to be a member of the Sochi 2014 Athletes’ Commission and have the opportunity to share my Olympic experience to help our Games be the most memorable in history. As a Sochi 2014 Ambassador I see my role as promoting sport participation and supporting cultural and educational activities all over the country. My aim is to make the Sochi 2014 Games an event of national heritage inspiring every single Russian to take part.”

Svetlana Khorkina is a prominent Russian gymnast, a two-time Olympic Champion in bar exercises (1996, 2000); three-time European all-around champion and three-time World all-around champion. She was named a Russian Sports Master in 1995.

Svetlana began training as a gymnast in 1983, and won a place in the Russian national artistic gymnastics team in 1992. ‘The Great Khorkina’ ended her competitive career in 2004 to concentrate on her family.

On March 12, 2007, in her native city of Belgorod, the sports complex of the Belgorod State University was opened. A statue of Svetlana decorates the front of the facility, which also bears her name.

With her sporting career finished, Svetlana Khorkina is achieving success in other walks of life. She is now a Vice-President of the Russian Artistic Gymnastics Federation and a member of the United Russia party since 2003, for whom she was elected to the Russian State Duma in 2007. Svetlana is also a sports journalist, TV presenter, model and actress.

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Alexander Ovechkin (http://sochi2014.com/90077)

"As an ice hockey player, it is truly an honor to become an Ambassador of the Winter Games being held in my home country. When Sochi won its Bid in Guatemala, we were delighted that in 2014 we will be playing at home on a brand-new modern hockey arena beside the beautiful seaside. As an athlete, I`ll try to do everything possible for bring the Olympic gold for the Russian team. And as a Sochi 2014 Ambassador, to help ensure that the Winter Games will be held at the highest level possible."

Born on September 17, 1985 in Moscow, Russia. The son of two athletes, Alex’s father, Mikhail a former professional soccer player, and, his mother, Tatyana a Russian basketball legend and two time Olympic gold medalist. It became apparent at an early age Alex had inherited his parent’s passion for sports; In a Soviet toy store at the age of two Alex picked up a hockey stick and helmet and refused to let go. He started playing organized hockey at the age of seven.

At one time, Alex almost quit hockey because his parents were unable to transport him to the hockey rink on a daily basis. Alex’s older brother Sergei recognized Alex’s talent and unique passion for the game and insisted on taking him to the rink so he could continue to play. Years later, in an event that would change Alex forever, Sergei tragically died in a car accident. Alex still credits his late older brother for pushing him to continue to play hockey and thinks about him daily. To this day, when Alex scores, he will often kiss his glove and point to the sky in a salute to his brother Sergei.

Alex’s renewed commitment to the sport paid dividends and at the age of 16 he began playing professionally for the Russian hockey power, Dynamo Moscow. By the time he was 18, Alex was named the Superleague’s Best Left Winger and became the youngest player to lead the team in scoring in the rich history of the Dynamo Moscow organization.

Alex officially arrived on the international stage when he was selected to play for Russia at the 2003 World Junior Hockey Championships. Alex scored a tournament leading 6 goals to help the Russians capture gold. Alex’s tournament success turned a lot of heads in the NHL circles as he approached draft eligibility.

Alex’s lifelong dream of playing in the NHL became a reality when the Washington Capitals selected him as the first overall pick in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft. Alex would be forced to wait a season to start his NHL career as a league-wide lockout erased the 2004-2005 season. On October 5, 2005 Alex played his first NHL game tallying two goals in a 3-2 victory over the Columbus Blue Jackets.

Alex led 2005-2006 NHL rookies in goals, points, power-play goals, and shots. He finished third overall in the NHL in scoring and tied for third in goals. He was also named to the NHL First All-Star Team, the first rookie to receive the honor in 15 years. Alex received the Calder Memorial Trophy (Rookie of the Year) in recognition of his outstanding rookie season.

In 2006, Alex fulfilled another life-long dream in representing his country at his first Winter Olympic Games in Torino, Italy. Although Russia came away from the games without a medal, Ovechkin scored 5 goals in the tournament and was named to the all-tournament team.

Despite all of his personal accolades, Alex was still discontent as he had yet to play a post-season game with the Captials entering the 2007-2008 NHL season. The Caps struggled early and were sitting in last place in their conference in mid November. In an attempt to salvage the season, Capitals management brought in a new coach in AHL journeyman, Bruce Boudreau. Boudreau led Alex and the Capitals to the largest single season comeback in NHL history as the Caps clinched a playoff berth (and South East Division) with a win in the final game of their regular season. The Caps went on to lose to the Philadelphia Flyers in 7 games, but Alex saw it as a great learning experience for himself and his young teammates.

The Capitals’ 2007-2008 campaign was also highlighted by Alex’s personal accomplishments. Alex’s league leading 65 goals and 112 points allowed him to become the first player in NHL history to capture the Hart Memorial Trophy (MVP), the Lester B. Pearson Award (MVP as voted by players), the Maurice Richard Trophy (most goals) and the Art Ross Trophy (most points) all in a single season.

Alex’s 2008 hockey season came to a fantastic finish, as he was able to join Russia at IIHF World Ice Hockey Championships. Alex led Russia to capture the gold medal, finishing with 12 points (six goals, six assists) in nine games. He was selected to the Tournament All-Star Team.

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Dima Bilan (http://sochi2014.com/86967)

"I am proud to have become a Sochi 2014 Ambassador, and call on all my fans to contribute wherever possible to this mega-project. Russia knows how to welcome and inspire the world, and staging the Eurovision Song Contest in Moscow demonstrates this once again. Let’s head for Sochi!"

A talented child, Dima pursued the Arts from an early age, attending the celebrated Gnesin Music Academy before going on to the GITIS (the State Institute of Theatrical Arts). His recording career took flight in 2003 with his notable participation in the Russian festival Jurmala where he recorded his first songs, «Bum», «Night Hooligan», and «You and Only You», later releasing his first album «I am a Night Hooligan».

Dima’s acting career soon followed and includes his participation on the TV show «Fear Factor», shot on location in Argentina in 2004, as well as the Russian reality show «Empire», shot in Poland that same year. He has also appeared in several TV commercials and has been the official face for the «La Scala Fashion Group» and «Franck Provost». Dima also participated in the recording of the soundtrack for the musical Peter Pan in the United States.

Dima’s career has met with worldwide success when in 2005 he was awarded «Best Performer» and «Actor of the Year» at the MTV Russia Music Awards. Also an international name, Dima Bilan presented Russia that same year at the MTV Europe Music Awards. In 2006 he took part in the «International Music Awards» in Kiev where he was awarded «Singer of the Year» for his ballad «Never let you go».

He took second place at the international competition «Eurovision 2006» where he represented Russia, received two matreshka dolls at the MTV Russia Music Awards 2006 for «Best Song» for his single «Never Let You Go» and won MTV Europe Music Awards 2006 in «Russian Act» nomination. This summer the magazine «Forbes» honoured Dima with a «bronze» prize in their yearly rating of the most popular Russian celebrities. Dima Bilan received a nomination «Best Russian Artist» at the World Music Awards 2006.

In 2008, Dima Bilan once again represented Russia in the Eurovision Song Contest with the song «Believe», accompanied by Hungarian violinist Edvin Marton and Russian world champion figure skater Evgeni Plushenko. On May 24, 2008, Bilan won first place in the Contest, receiving 272 points and seven twelves, and became the first Russian singer ever to take the first position for the Eurovision.

One highlight of Dima’s recording career was the opportunity to participate in the recording of the «Anthem of Sochi 2014», in support of Russia’s Bid to host the 2014 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games.

Dima Bilan was born in 1981, in Karachaevo-Cherkezia, Russia.

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Russian National Ice Hockey Team (http://sochi2014.com/86715)

Vyacheslav Bykov, the head coach:
"It is a tremendous honor for the Russian Ice Hockey Team to become Sochi 2014 Ambassadors. The entire team are hugely excited about Russia’s first Winter Games – not only because it will be an incredible and innovative event, but also because its world-class legacy ice hockey facilities will help ensure that Russia remains at the forefront of the sport for many years to come."

The Russian ice hockey team is the current world champion and holds the first line in the teams rating (2009).

Vyacheslav Bykov is the head coach of the team since 2006. He is the hockey player in the past, five-time world champion and double Olympic champion in the national team of USSR, the CIS and Russia.

Achievements:

• World Champion in 1993, 2008 and 2009, silver prize of the World Championships in 2002, bronze prize in 2005, 2007

• Silver prize of the Olympic Winter Games in 1998, bronze prize of the Olympic Winter Games in 2002

• Euro Hockey Tour Champion in 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009.

• Russian team has confirmed its status as world champions at the World Championship in Switzerland in 2009, beaten all the competitors, including the Canadians in the final with the score 2:1.

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Valery Gergiev (http://sochi2014.com/86530)

"I believe that everyone should pitch in, and do it vigorously and with resolve. We are no builders or designers, but we can assist the Games hosts in matters of reputation and confidence-building. I think we can do this successfully."

Valery Gergiev earned his degree in Symphonic Conducting under Professor Ilya Musin at the Rimsky-Korsakov Conservatory in Leningrad (now St. Petersburg). Gergiev won a Herbert von Karajan conducting competition in Berlin at age 23, and was offered a job with Kirov Opera & Ballet while still a Conservatory student.

Valery Gergiev was appointed Artistic Director of the Mariinsky Opera Company at age 35. He has served as Artistic Director and Manager of the Mariinsky Theater since 1996.

For years, the Maestro has remained true to his mission: to make the Mariinsky the best opera and ballet company in the world. The theater’s repertoire has really «exploded» in the past 15 years. One of the highlights was the return to the St. Petersburg stage of Wagner’s great operas, Lohengrin, Parsifal, The Flying Dutchman and Tristan und Isolde. Credit for the staging of Russia’s only full version of Wagner’s four-part music drama Der Ring des Nibelungen also goes to the Mariinsky and its director. The European premiere of The Ring in Baden-Baden, Germany, in 2004 was hailed by the German media as a milestone in the history of music. The Ring was then performed with great success in Moscow in June 2005 before traveling to South Korea and Japan. The drama was presented in the US, UK and Spain in the 2006/2007 season.

Valery Gergiev has founded and directed numerous international music festivals, including the Mikkeli Fest in Finland, Red Sea Fest in Eilat, Israel, the Rotterdam Philharmonic-Gergiev Fest (Holland), and the Moscow Easter Festival.

Performances conducted by Valery Gergiev form the centerpiece of St. Petersburg’s annual Stars of the White Nights music festival, founded by Gergiev in 1993.

In the season of 2004-2005, Valery Gergiev was the inspiration behind Beslan. Music in the Name of Life world series of benefit concerts staged in New York, Paris, London, Tokyo, Rome and Moscow.

The Mariinsky’s creative partnerships with the world’s foremost opera houses was also Gergiev’s idea. The Mariinsky is now partners with Metropolitan Opera, the Royal Covent Garden Opera House, Carlo Felice Theater, San-Francisco Opera, La Scala, New Israel Opera and Chatle Theater.

Valery Gergiev has been acclaimed as one of the preeminent music conductors in the world. He works with some of the premier international musicians.

Valery Gergiev has served as the chief guest conductor of the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra since 1995, and was the chief guest conductor of New York’s Metropolitan Opera from 1997 to 2002. He was appointed head conductor of the London Symphony Orchestra on 1 January 2007.

Valery Gergiev’s talent and achievements have been celebrated with numerous awards, decorations and titles. He was honored with the title of People’s Artist of Russia in 1996, and won the Russian National Prize in 1994 and 1999. The jury of International Classical Music Awards voted Gergiev Conductor of the Year in 1994. He was a repeat winner of the Russian national Golden Mask theater awards as Conductor of the Year from 1996 to 2000. In 1998, Philips Electronics rewarded Gergiev with a special cash prize for outstanding contribution to music, which he donated to the Mariinsky’s Young Vocalists’ Academy. Valery Gergiev is also a winner of several national awards: Germany’s Merit Cross First Class, Italy’s Grand Ufficiale and France’s L’Ordre des Arts et des Lettres. He was awarded the Russian Presidential Prize for Outstanding Contribution to the Advancement of the Arts in 2002, and the title of UNESCO World Artist in March 2003.

Valery Gergiev was awarded the Order for Service to the Homeland 3rd Class in 2003. The Russian Orthodox Church awarded him the Order of the Holy Virtuous Prince Daniil of Moscow, 3rd Class, for his contribution to the humanitarian and cultural projects of the Russian Orthodox Church the same year. Valery Gergiev was awarded a 300th Anniversary of St. Petersburg commemorative medal in 2003. In 2004, Valery Gergiev received a Crystal Prize from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, and was nominated People’s Artist of Ukraine in April of the same year. The government of Kyrgyzstan conferred the Danaker Order on Gergiev the same year. Beatrix the Queen of the Netherlands made Gergiev a Knight of the Order of the Netherlands Lion in 2005. He won the Polar Music Prize of the Royal Swedish Academy of Music the same year. In 2006, Valery Gergiev won the Japanese Record Academy Award for recording all of Prokofiev’s symphonies with the London Symphony Orchestra.

In 2006, the Maestro won the Herbert von Karajan Music Prize at the Baden-Baden Music Festival and a prize from the Russian-American Cultural Cooperation Foundation for his contribution to promoting cultural ties between Russia and the US. In November 2006, the Emperor of Japan decorated Valery Gergiev with one of the highest national awards of Japan: the Order of the Rising Sun. France gave Valery Gergiev its top award — the Order of the Legion of Honor — in April 2007. In May of the same year, Gergiev was awarded the Academie du disque lyrique prize for his recording of Russian operas, and was made an Honorary

Citizen of St. Petersburg.

In 2008, Maestro Gergiev was awarded the Order for Service to the Homeland 4th Class and made People’s Artist of the Republic of South Ossetia. In May 2008, Gergiev received a Johan van Oldenbarnevelt medal for his contribution to the cultural life of Rotterdam. In December of the same year, he was awarded the Andrew the First-Called Prize for «Unique Creative Temperament, Revolutionary Contribution to the Rejuvenation of the Mariinsky Theater, and Versatile Achievement in Preserving and Advancing Russian Music.»

Most recently, Valery Gergiev was decorated with the Palau de la Musica medal from Valencia, Spain.

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Oksana Domnina and Maksim Shabalin (http://sochi2014.com/86529)

"This is a truly unforgettable day," said Oksana Domnina. "We have just won Gold Medals at the world championship, and now we are also Ambassadors for the 2014 Winter Olympics, which will be staged in our home town, Sochi." "It is a great honor for us," echoed Maksim Shabalin. "We look forward to the Sochi Games which, I'm sure, will be a fantastic show."

Oksana Domnina’s parents first brought her to a public skating rink at the age of 6. She was a fast learner. Only three months later Oksana was selected for choreography training on artificial ice. Two years later, she was paired up with Anton Ryabov. With her next partner, Ivan Lobanov, Oksana won 8th place in the Russian adult championship and 9th in the juniors championship. The pair broke up after that season.

In the season of 2000-2001, Oksana Domnina and her new partner Maksim Bolotin made it to the finals of the junior Grand Prix Series, and won bronze in the Russian juniors championship.

Maksim Shabalin took up skating at the age of 4 on the advice of his parents. Maksim’s first coach Oleg Sudakov first suggested figure skating when Maksim was 11. Maksim changed several partners in the next five years, but couldn’t seem to find the right one. At age 16, Maksim left Samara for Sofia, Bulgaria, to dance with Margarita Toteva, and skated for Bulgaria for the next 18 months.

Maksim paired up with Elena Khaliavina in 1999. The pair came third in the Junior World Championship of 2001, and second in 2002.

Maksim Shabalin and Oksana Domnina began skating together in 2002. They won the Junior World Championship in 2003, took 2nd place in the Russian national championship in 2004, and won their first national championship a year later.

The pair made it to the finals of the World Grand Prix Series in figure skating in the 2006/2007 season following their win in leg 3 of the championship in China and 2nd place in leg 5 in Moscow. They came third after the Bulgarian and Canadian pairs in the finals.

Maksim Shabalin and Oksana Domnina won their second national championship in 2007 and took silver in the European championship the same year. The 2007/2008 season began well for Maksim and Oksana: they won the 2007 World Grand Prix Series, and became European Champions in 2008.

In the 2008/2009 season, the pair won the Cup of China Grand Prix tournament and came second in the Cup of Russia. They won 2nd place in the Grand Prix finals, but were only 5th in the European championship. Most recently, Oksana and Maksim won Gold at the World Championship in Figure Skating in Los Angeles in March 2009.

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Alexander Zoubkov (http://sochi2014.com/86528)

"It feels awesome to be an Ambassador for the Olympic Games, an event eagerly awaited by millions," said Aleksander Zoubkov. "Like most Russian athletes, I have great hopes for the Sochi Games. We have sledded in many countries and parts of the world, but we've never hosted a tournament on our own ice, unlike Germans or Italians. Thankfully, the Sochi Olympics will give us a quality ice course, so I'm planning to make my fans proud in 2014."

Aleksander Zoubkov is a celebrated Russian bobsledder, Master of Sports. He piloted the Russian Olympic team at the Olympic Winter Games in Salt Lake City and Turin. Zoubkov was named Bobsledder of the Year at the 2008 World Cup.

He is a four-time World Championship prizewinner (in 2003, 2005 and 2008), Vice Champion of the 2006 Olympics in Turin (in four-crews), and repeat European Champion.

Sporting achievements of Aleksander Zoubkov:
- Russian Champion in two-crews (2005) and four-crews (2001, 2003-2005);
- Silver Medal winner in the 2001 and 2003 Russian championships in two-crews;
- Russian Bob-start Champion in two-crews (2002-2004) and four-crews (2001-2004);
- Silver Medal winner in the Russian Bob-start Championship (2000) in four-crews;
- Russia Cup Silver (2000) in two-crews;
- European Champion (2005, 2009) in four-crews;
- Silver (2005) and Bronze (2003) World Championship winner in four-crews;
- World Champion in Bob-starts (2003) in two-crews;
- Silver (2003) and Bronze (2001) World Bob-start Championship winner in four-crews;
- World Cup Winner (2005) in four-crews; World Cup Bronze winner in two-crews (2008);
- Silver from the 2006 Olympics in Turin;
- 2009 World Cup in four-crews;
- The first Russian bobsledder to ever win the World Cup in combined men's crews in 2009;
- 2009 World Cup leg winner in two-crews;
- Three-time bronze winner of the 2009 World Cup legs in Whistler, Canada and Park City (US) in four-crews;
- 4th place at the 2009 World Championship in Lake Placid (US) in two- and four-crews.

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Vladimir Lebedev (http://sochi2014.com/86527)

"It's a great honor for me to be an Ambassador for the Sochi Olympics. I feel proud that my country will be hosting a grandiose event like that. I'm hoping that the 2014 Winter Games will help make freestyle skiing more popular in Russia and let Russian skiers gain worldwide prominence. I'm also hoping I will be able to do a great show for my fans and win Gold for Russia in 2014."

Vladimir Lebedev is a Russian freestyle skier, Bronze Medal winner at the 2006 Turin Olympics, holder of the honorific title of Master of Sports of Russia. He was born on 23 April 1984.

Vladimir Lebedev led the Russian team at the Aerials Leg of the 2009 FIS World Cup in Freestyle, held at Vorobyovy Hills in Moscow on 14 February 2009. This was Moscow's second tournament of its kind, featuring the strongest freestyle skiers in the world. The first tournament was held a few months after Russia won the privilege to host its first Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games in 2014 in the City of Sochi.

Specially for the aerials tournament at Vorobyovy Hills, a ski jump was built next to the Lomonosov University building, which may be in line for the Guinness Book of Records as the highest ski jump for aerial acrobatics. The top of the start area is 46 m high. The Moscow leg will be the last on the official World Cup calendar for aerial acrobats; it will determine the Small Crystal Globe winner in aerial acrobatics for the 2008/2009 season.

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Yuri Bashmet (http://sochi2014.com/86526)

"Music is like a corridor that leads me to cosmic revelations."

Yuri Bashmet was born on 24 January 1953 in Rostov-on-Don. He finished secondary music school in Lvov in 1971, then studied at the Moscow Conservatory until 1976. His first viola instructor was Professor Vadim Borisovsky, who died in 1972. The rest of Yuri?s training was under the tutelage of Prof. Fedor Druzhinin, who also curated Yuri during his internship and assistantship at the Moscow Conservatory, 1976 through 1978. Yuri Bashmet still plays his Paolo Testori viola (crafted in Milan in 1758) he bought in 1972.

While still a student, Bashmet won 2nd prize at the international viola competition in Budapest in 1975, and the Grand Prix at the ARD viola competition in Munich in 1976. Yuri Bashmet won international acclaim as a musician of phenomenal talent. His music career really took off in the late 70s-early 80s.

Yuri Bashmet started playing concerts on a regular basis in 1976, when he went on a German tour with the Moscow Chamber Orchestra founded by R. Barshai. He has been teaching at the Moscow Conservatory since 1978; he became Senior Lecturer in 1888, and Full Professor in 1996.

Yuri Bashmet has taught master classes in Japan, Europe, the Americas and Hong Kong since 1980; he also teaches summer school at the Quigiana Academy in Siena (Italy) and the academy in Tour, France. His disciples, many of them international prizewinners, play in some of the foremost orchestras around the world.

Yuri Bashmet began conducting music in 1985. In his conducting career, he has remained the brave, fearless artist and modern thinker he always was.

Yuri Bashmet founded the Soloists of Moscow Orchestra in 1986. During an international tour in 1991, Bashmet, as the artistic director of his orchestra, signed a temporary contract with Montpelier City Hall for the orchestra to play in Montpelier, France. His musicians subsequently decided to stay in France, and Bashmet had to leave the orchestra. The orchestra soon ceased to exist.

In the meantime, Bashmet founded a new orchestra in 1992 with some of the brightest young musicians in Russia, all graduates or graduate students of the Moscow Conservatory.

In 1996, Yuri Bashmet created and stepped at the helm of an experimental viola department at the Moscow Conservatory, where apart from solo pieces for viola, students are taught an extensive repertoire of viola parts in chamber music, symphonies and operas, combined with in-depth study of past and contemporary performing styles.

As a performer, Yuri Bashmet is always in the spotlight in Russia and internationally. His oeuvre has won him worldwide acclaim and numerous national and international awards. He was awarded the title of Celebrated Artist of Russia in 1983 and People?s Artist of the Soviet Union in 1991. He won the National Recognition Prize of the Soviet Union in 1986, the National Recognition Prize of Russia in 1994 and 1996, and Instrumentalist of the Year Award (similar to Academy Awards in film) in 1993. Yuri Bashmet is an honorary fellow of the Royal Academy of Arts in London.

Yuri Bashmet won the high-profile Sonnings Musikfond music prize in Copenhagen in 1995, joining the star cohort of previous Sonnings Musikfond winners: Stravinsky, Bernstein, Britten, Menuhin, Stern, Rubinstein, Shostakovich, Rostropovich, Richter and Kremer.

In 1999, the Minister of Culture of France made Yuri Bashmet a Chevalier of the Order of Arts and Letters. The Prime Minister of Lithuania awarded Bashmet the Order of the Lithuanian Republic for his «inestimable contribution to world art» in 2000. The President of Italy awarded him the Italian Order of Merit of the Republic the same year. The Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded Bashmet the Order for Service to the Homeland in 2002.

The Russian Biographical Society voted Yuri Bashmet «Man of the Year» in 2000.

Yuri Bashmet is the founder and chairman of the jury of Russia?s fist and only international viola competition in Moscow. He is also President of the Lionel Tertis Viola Competition in England, and sits on the jury of the Munich viola competition and the Maurice Vieux International Viola Competition in Paris.

Yuri Bashmet lives and works in Moscow.

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Russian women's curling team (http://sochi2014.com/86523)

"We are overjoyed to be Ambassadors for Sochi 2014, but its double the amount of responsibility: now we represent both a country with a great sports history and a host country of the Olympic Games."

Skip: Ludmila Privivkova, DOB 13 September 1986
Club: Moskvich Experimental School of Sporting Excellence (ESSE), Moscow
First coach: Olga Andrianova
Personal coach: Olga Andrianova
Student, School of Economics, Russian State Tsiolkovsky University of Technology.
World-class athlete
Participant of the 2002 and 2006 Olympic Games, winner of the 2006 European Championship and 2006 Junior World Championship, repeat winner or laureate of Russian championships.

Vice Skip: Olga Zharkova, DOB 11 January 1979
Club: Moskvich ESSE, Moscow
First coach: Olga Andrianova
Personal coach: Olga Andrianova
Curling instructor; correspondence student at Lesgaft University of Physical Education.
World-class athlete
Participant of the 2002 and 2006 Olympic Games, winner of the 2006 European Championship, winner of the 2003 World Student Winter Games, repeat winner or laureate of Russian championships. Until recently, the skip of the Russian national team.

Second (No. 2): Ezekh (Kira) Nkeiruka, DOB 17 October 1983
Club: Moskvich ESSE, Moscow
First coach: Olga Andrianova
Personal coach: Olga Andrianova
Student of the Moscow Aviation Institute (Technical University)
World-class athlete
Participant of the 2002 and 2006 Olympic Games, winner of the 2006 European Championship, winner of the 2003 World Student Winter Games, repeat winner or laureate of Russian championships.

Lead (No. 1): Ekaterina Galkina, DOB 10 August 1988
Club: Moskvich ESSE, Moscow
First coach: Anna Andrianova
Personal coach: Olga Andrianova
Student of the Department of International Relations, Russian National University of Humanities.
World-class athlete
Participant of the 2006 Olympic Games, winner of the 2006 European Championship and 2006 Junior World Championship; repeat winner or laureate of Russian championships.

Alternative (backup player): Margarita Fomina, DOB 19 August 1988
Club: Moskvich ESSE, Moscow
Winner of the 2006 European Championship, repeat winner or laureate of Russian championships.

Yana Nekrasova, DOB 10 February 1976
Club: Sport Club of the Army (SCA), St. Petersburg and SSE in Winter Sports, St. Petersburg.
In active military service (Leningrad Military District); graduate student of Lesgaft University of Physical Education.
World-class athlete.
Participant of the 2002 and 2006 Olympic Games, winner of the 2003 World Student Winter Games, repeat winner or laureate of Russian championships.
* Played in the Russian national team at the 2006 Olympic Games in Turin (Italy), but left the team shortly after that.

Head coach of the team: Olga Andrianova, a celebrated Russian coach (Moscow). Credentials: head coach of the Russian Olympic team at the 2002 and 2006 Olympic Games and the European Championships of 2005 and 2006; head coach of the student team that won the 2003 Student Winter Games; head coach of the Moskvich ESSE club team.
President of the Russian Curling Federation since October 2006.

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Problem with Russia hosting the World Cup is it is hard for tourists to get visas. There is too much red tape. Sort this out, open the borders it would improve the odds of Russia hosting the event.

Until then, it'll never happen.

Right. I guess the International Olympic Committee agrees with you, that's why they gave Russia the 2014 olympics.:lol:

Right. I guess the International Olympic Committee agrees with you, that's why they gave Russia the 2014 olympics.:lol:
Again booring visa bla bla theme. EU and Russia can approve visa-free regime already in 2010, so it's not a big deal like you wanna to beleive.
It's hard for N.Americans to get visas, just like for us to get visas in N.America.
Don't offtop here.

That Rubin stadium looks exactly like City of Manchester stadium.

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It would be so much easier for an EU country(or countries) to host the tournament (England, Portugal & Spain or Belgium & the Netherlands), like Germany did in 2006, though at the same time it would be good if like USA got the world cup, to improve the football stadiums there and make football popular in the states.

Reconstruction of stadium in Ekaterinburg (classic and modern architecture in one place):

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It would be so much easier for an EU country(or countries) to host the tournament (England, Portugal & Spain or Belgium & the Netherlands), like Germany did in 2006, though at the same time it would be good if like USA got the world cup, to improve the football stadiums there and make football popular in the states.

Football is popular in the United States. Just not as popular as American football, Baseball, Basketball and Hockey.

Football is popular in the United States. Just not as popular as American football, Baseball, Basketball and Hockey.

Well I did see a few football matches in America (Like some of the LA Galaxy matches) and most of the time the stadiums are less than half full. But the thing that I hate, that if America do get the world cup, they will be pissed of when people will call it football, because they have a stupid name that is not original "Soccer", And they will say stuff like FIFA 2018 (Or 2022) Soccer World cup USA. That would really piss me off.

I think the US has the upper hand here. The US has dozens of stadiums available for usage, while Russia only has one or two ready for use today.

And I think Miami, Dallas and Chicago are more desirable tourist visits than Gorsnyj, Jekaterinenburg and Königsberg... :)

that is just the reason to give the World Championship to Russia... to build the stadiums. US has them already. Groznyj is not a bid.

Ant the rest of the cities are very interesting... why would they be less interesting than in the US?

Well I did see a few football matches in America (Like some of the LA Galaxy matches) and most of the time the stadiums are less than half full. But the thing that I hate, that if America do get the world cup, they will be pissed of when people will call it football, because they have a stupid name that is not original "Soccer", And they will say stuff like FIFA 2018 (Or 2022) Soccer World cup USA. That would really piss me off.

Totally unlike those South Africans hosting next year that call their national league the "Premier Soccer League" and named the showpiece stadium "Soccer City".

Sochi stadiums looks awesome. Completely new, original style.

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Looks like a fail to me. It will probably end up looking like Soldier Field in Chicago, which is awfully. Blending such obvious old and new does not work.

Well I did see a few football matches in America (Like some of the LA Galaxy matches) and most of the time the stadiums are less than half full. But the thing that I hate, that if America do get the world cup, they will be pissed of when people will call it football, because they have a stupid name that is not original "Soccer", And they will say stuff like FIFA 2018 (Or 2022) Soccer World cup USA. That would really piss me off.

You're from Kyiv so I'm going to guess that you are a Dynamo fan, because I can't picture anyone actually being an Arsenal fan. In any case, what's the average crowd for a Dynamo match at Lobanovskiy? 10,000 to 15,000? LA Galaxy which according to you has a small crowd, averages around 20,000 spectators. Actually, if you look at the UPL altogether, outside of Dynamo, Shakhtar, Dnipro and Karpaty, no other team averages above 10,000 fans. Does this mean that football is not popular in Ukraine? Because all of the MLS teams average above 10,000.

In regards to Soccer, I think there have been plenty of other threads that discussed where the term came from. And the Russian thread is certainly not a place for me to go into that.

^^Ukraine is a poorer country with under 50 million people and declining. The USA is a "rich" country with over 300 million people and increasing. The comparison favours the Ukraine.

Lets also look at the fact that Ukraine was part of a larger country until around 20 years ago... the four big clubs in the ukraine Dynamo, shahktar, Metalist and Dnipro all used to average above 20,000 (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/archive/avesov.htm). When the USA can produce stats like that for one region, let us know!

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^^ does sochi even have a team that can justify that stadium?

^^ does sochi even have a team that can justify that stadium?
FC "Zhemchuzhina-Sochi" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Zhemchuzhina-Sochi) will play in First Division this year.

http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0021/7791/brand.gif

http://www.fc-zhemchuzhina.com/

^^Ukraine is a poorer country with under 50 million people and declining. The USA is a "rich" country with over 300 million people and increasing. The comparison favours the Ukraine.

Lets also look at the fact that Ukraine was part of a larger country until around 20 years ago... the four big clubs in the ukraine Dynamo, shahktar, Metalist and Dnipro all used to average above 20,000 (http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/archive/avesov.htm). When the USA can produce stats like that for one region, let us know!


Seattle has a team that averages 30,000 fans, that's more then half the EPL clubs. I think that's an impressive stat in itself. And comparing current US stats to Soviet stats of 20 years ago is ridiculous. As far as Ukraine being a poor country and US being a rich one, the tickets prices are relative. You can purchase tickets at 10 hryvni ($1.25) in the UPL, as opposed to $22 minimum being charged by New York Red Bulls. I'm not arguing about the popularity of football in Ukraine, I'm arguing for the popularity of football in the United States.

Seattle has a team that averages 30,000 fans, that's more then half the EPL clubs. I think that's an impressive stat in itself.

That's not impressive at all. Seattle has 2.5 million people in it's urban area and 3.4 million people in it's metro. The sounders are the only team and they played 15 games. That is not impressive at all.


And comparing current US stats to Soviet stats of 20 years ago is ridiculous.

Not at all, it shows the reason why Ukrainian clubs average less. When you go from playing against Spartak Moscow and Dinamo Tblisi to playing against teams from towns you've never heard of the heart get's weaker.

As far as Ukraine being a poor country and US being a rich one, the tickets prices are relative. You can purchase tickets at 10 hryvni ($1.25) in the UPL, as opposed to $22 minimum being charged by New York Red Bulls. I'm not arguing about the popularity of football in Ukraine, I'm arguing for the popularity of football in the United States.

Not all tickets are that price, they are just the cheapest tickets. And i'd like a ukrainian to give a break down on how good ticket prices are, not you!

You conveniently ignored the vastly different population pools to take fans from.

You also forget ukrainian games go head to head with the big western european leagues. You have your eurosnobs but they could actually go to both, in Ukraine it's one or the other.

FC "Zhemchuzhina-Sochi" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Zhemchuzhina-Sochi) will play in First Division this year.

http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0021/7791/brand.gif

http://www.fc-zhemchuzhina.com/

what's the fanbase like? I was speaking to a russian who said the south, central (moscow) and St Petersburg area was where football was most popular in Russia...

So sochi is in the football heartland no?

what's the fanbase like? I was speaking to a russian who said the south, central (moscow) and St Petersburg area was where football was most popular in Russia...

So sochi is in the football heartland no?
Don't know what "football heartland" means and what parameters it must have :) , but for sure it's a very perspective region, where sport is developing very fast. And clubs from south regions are constantly playing in Premier-League. Krasnodar's team "Kuban" has purpose to play in European Cups in 2012, Zhemchuzhina-Sochi also has purpose to play in Europe as soon as possible. Krasnodarsky Krai is one of the most attractive region for investors, not only because of Olympic Games, but because it's a perspective touristic centre.

Don't know what "football heartland" means and what parameters it must have :) ,

I mean where football is played and followed more than anything and anywhere else.

but for sure it's a very perspective region, where sport is developing very fast. And clubs from south regions are constantly playing in Premier-League. Krasnodar's team "Kuban" has purpose to play in European Cups in 2012, Zhemchuzhina-Sochi also has purpose to play in Europe as soon as possible. Krasnodarsky Krai is one of the most attractive region for investors, not only because of Olympic Games, but because it's a perspective touristic centre.

didn't kuban just get relegated lol! How do these teams expect to get past the moscow-st. Petersburg monopoly? Rubin only have done it because of luck it seems!

Oh and BTW what's happening with the stadiums for Dinamo and CSKA?

didn't kuban just get relegated lol! How do these teams expect to get past the moscow-st. Petersburg monopoly? Rubin only have done it because of luck it seems!
Yes, but they just signed Dan Petrescu from "Unirea". The 50,000-stadium will be build no matter of FIFA decision on bid. So now they are building team and infrastructure in Krasnodar.
Oh and BTW what's happening with the stadiums for Dinamo and CSKA?
Not so many news about Dynamo. Next year they will hold an international competition on the right of reconstruction, and expecting to complete it in 2013.
CSKA stadium construction stopped because ground rent (ground of Ministry of Defence on former airport) has ended this year ans stadium wasn't built in time. If MoD will decide to prolong it, CSKA will build it. If not - MoD will build it and CSKA will pay a rent to play there. The decision will be made in january/february. Damn crisis created problems for managers around the world.

Yes, but they just signed Dan Petrescu from "Unirea". The 50,000-stadium will be build no matter of FIFA decision on bid. So now they are building team and infrastructure in Krasnodar.

wow 50,000 that is ambitious. Krasnodar isn't that big a city compared to some of the others who are planning smaller stadiums!

But I saw they were third in attendance last year! Ahead of your CSKAs and Rubins!

Not so many news about Dynamo. Next year they will hold an international competition on the right of reconstruction, and expecting to complete it in 2013.

Size? Football only?

CSKA stadium construction stopped because ground rent (ground of Ministry of Defence on former airport) has ended this year ans stadium wasn't built in time. If MoD will decide to prolong it, CSKA will build it. If not - MoD will build it and CSKA will pay a rent to play there. The decision will be made in january/february. Damn crisis created problems for managers around the world.

wow, that's a mess.

Size? Football only?
Yes, and capacity around 35,000.

I dont like new Rubin stadium, could and should have been better...why blue seats and roof when their colors are red and green??? and this stadium design is very usual lately... I have better designs on my own (but I cant become an architect as I dont have money to buy entrance in architectural colleges in Bosnia and Croatia, countries that are so corrupted) :ohno: