^^The sale have just been announced though. We probably have to wait a little before a casefile appears.

They tried with the help of Arcasa 06-09...

Oh, another Arcasa project. :puke:

The new Valle Hovin Oval (12 000). Sketches by Multiconsult and Link Architects.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4113/vallehovin6.png

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/2672/vallehovin5.png

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3364/vallehovin3.png

Oslo mangler styring (http://www.tu.no/bygg/article293207.ece)

Den kjente arkitekten Jan Gehl mener Oslo har bommet totalt med byutviklingen.

Slik blir Oslo en bedre by (http://www.tu.no/bygg/article292861.ece)

– I bunnen av Groruddalen kan man rydde opp. Noen av de store boksene med logistikk- og lagerfunksjoner bør vike for boliger og næringsbygg i en mer urban innpakning og en mer fotgjengervennlig utforming. De store butikkbygningene som ligger der i dag bør brukes til andre formål, for eksempel til kontorer. I dag er området preget av asfalt og kjøpesenter. Jeg vil heller ha vanlige gater, sier hun.

– Vi bør bygge med høy tetthet, ikke minst på Gjersrud/Stensrud ved Klemetsrud. Her kan og bør det bygges høyt og tett, sier Dokk Holm.

http://www.tu.no/multimedia/archive/00181/TU20111128Stor-Oslo_181736e.jpg

I know a skatingoval is a necsessity to host the Olympics. However, I dont see the need to build a permanent arena for skating, like the proposed one on Valle Hovin. After all, the long distance skating is a soon to be destinct sport.

I just hope it will be possible to use both for hockey and figure skating without to much trouble...

Valle Hovin Ishall: Mange aktiviteter på en gang..

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3259/fler.png


1: Speed skating / Ispigging.
2 : Ice Hockey/Short Track (ST)/ (figure skating)
3 a + 3b: Figure skating
4+6: General public
1+3a+3b+4+6: Bandy
7: Curling, the lanes (option)

Grefsen stasjon is also closing up to sale start for step 2. Step 1 is currently still in discussion with planing authorities on some details, but most appartments are sold, so construcion should start this spring. Hopefully later steps won't just be commies...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Grefsen.jpg

I pass this every day, and things are moving all along the Sinsen-Storo axis. A lot of digging, installing water/sewage infrastructure etc. They've sold all but two apartments in the first building, and currently selling in second. From the contractor (http://isachsengruppen.no/oslo/index.php/entreprenor/referansesak/grunnarbeid_grefsen_stasjonsby), I read that infrastructure at the "bottom" will be done in 2012, so I guess the building will rise quite soon. And then of course you have things going on at the top of Torshovdalen, and a new globe-like tent has popped up in between. And then muselunden has been destroyed to lay foundations for plastic turf. Will try to get some pics (trouble is, it's just dark when you pass to or from work :ohno: ). Pretty soon, this whole area will look very different. But I'm happy they at least are building tall close to the subway/tram stations, though I agree with all the old posts I found when I looked this up, that good ol' quarters like Frogner/Majorstua/Grünerløkka looks much nicer. Why the heck don't they build like that anymore?!

^^ Because the developmenters don't care as long as they get their money, the people don't care as long as they keep their precious view and the politicians are happy as long they manage to satisfy those two camps and still meet the demand for housing. Hopefully projects like Tjuvholmen, Sørenga, Vulkan, Barcode and various infill developments will show the public that it is possible to build fairly attractive and modern apartments in a urban setting and fuel the demand for similar projects in the future.

And let's hope Arcasa find something better to do with their time.

^^ Because the developmenters don't care as long as they get their money, the people don't care as long as they keep their precious view and the politicians are happy as long they manage to satisfy those two camps and still meet the demand for housing. Hopefully projects like Tjuvholmen, Sørenga, Vulkan, Barcode and various infill developments will show the public that it is possible to build fairly attractive and modern apartments in a urban setting and fuel the demand for similar projects in the future.

And let's hope Arcasa find something better to do with their time.

I agree, but you know it's Hille Melbye that's behind Grefsen stasjonsby?

I agree, but you know it's Hille Melbye that's behind Grefsen stasjonsby?

No, I wasn't aware of that actually but I was talking more generally either way and Arcasa seems to be the most active with these cheap-ass commie developments.
;)

^^Page 1 of this thread ;)

Smalvollveien 32 – 38:

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/SVV2.jpg

http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/SVV1.jpg
Planforslag (http://www.plan-og-bygningsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/getfile.php/plan-%20og%20bygningsetaten%20%28PBE%29/Internett%20%28PBE%29/Dokumenter/Filer%20utlagte%20saker/2011/Smalvollveien_saksfremstilling.pdf)

Some start for a more urban Alna :ohno:

^^ So the carting will disappear? (or has is already moved? I haven't noticed)

Another Hille Melbye project. They must be smocking some heavy stuff. :|
I can't understand that people have no respect for the profession that they chose? Why on earth are you working with architecture and planning if this revolting shit is all you can come up with?

I did better a job taking half a min and a free copy of Gimp.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6460459101_8ff3b0a67a_o.jpg

This seriously needs to be stopped. They must not set any precedence for future developments in Groruddalen with things like this.


Add these for dramatic effect: !!!!!!

Hmm, I thought they were going to make more investigations and plans before starting to densify this area. Smalvollveien probably have some of the worst PT-coverage I know of today, so I don't get how they can approve a plan that basicly makes all residents and workers in the buildings into car-users.

^^ Is it approved? The link mjoks007 gave says Planforslag to me.

It's not approved, it's on hearing. But it would surprise me a lot if it wasn't, when the planning works has progressed to this level.

^^ There aren't anyone who can write something about the case? It would be a great shame to see this as the first development in the area any further projects needs to fit into to.

I did better a job taking half a min and a free copy of Gimp.

Though, I'm pretty sure the municipality is not so crazy about making a whole lot of streets they have to maintain.. What about something like this? Notice I have moved the square, the location of the square in Hille Melbye's proposal is ridiculous:nuts:
http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af172/mjoks007/SVV3.jpg

^^ Anything is better than the current proposal. It's like they haven't learned a thing since the Tveita area at top of the hill was built. It's a big, big mistake if this goes through. :ohno:

Aftenposten Lørdag 3.12 featured an article about the expected growth of Oslo and surrounding areas, and showcased a vision of Nesodden becoming “a new Manhattan” and the new center of Oslo 100 years from now. They cited that Oslo might receive a lot of “climate refugees” if the worst case scenario of global climate change were realized. A rendering of Nesodden filled with skyscrapers and served by bridges over the Oslo fjord filled the front page. The article made a pretty good case for urbanizing and dense residential development and the need to plan better and more united than status quo. I also read it as a critique on Bærum’s draw bridge mentality and refusal to build dense around subway stations.

Unfortunately I can’t find the article online.

^^ See, I don't understand that line of thought. We have, lets face it, some awful looking areas around our central station which is a embarrassment for the rest of the city. The only thing worth looking at there is our two highest highrises. You will think that the growth the city is currently experiencing would be a perfect opportunity to beautify this part of the city and make it into bustling place people actually wants to be. But instead we are now focusing on how we can drive the growth away from the city and try to hide without altering Oslos appearance.

About the Smalvollveien project. Are there other projects proposed along the Alna river? That street/area is just so mindboggling fugly... Being so close to the Alna river gives the area a lot of potential.

About the Smalvollveien project. Are there other projects proposed along the Alna river? That street/area is just so mindboggling fugly... Being so close to the Alna river gives the area a lot of potential.

http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=2947719

Being so close to the Alna river gives the area a lot of potential.

I think the location in the bottom of the valley with the river next to it and the freeway running in a bridge above it is quite cool. It would be nice if we some time in the future had a continuous city/urban area all the way from Gamlebyen through Lodalen up to Alna. :)

I think the location in the bottom of the valley with the river next to it and the freeway running in a bridge above it is quite cool. It would be nice if we some time in the future had a continuous city/urban area all the way from Gamlebyen through Lodalen up to Alna. :)

Yeah, especially with this kind of projects along the valley: http://www.eitillstad.no/Leilighetene.aspx

:nuts:

Cool, I hadn't seen that planprogram before! And I have to admit I'm a sucker for commies, IceCheese :nuts: Those buildings aren't that bad! It's not like we should expect to see a new barcode in the area.

Gjensidige plot, December 2011:

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/PC071599.jpg

I have to admit I'm a sucker for commies, IceCheese :nuts: Those buildings aren't that bad! It's not like we should expect to see a new barcode in the area.

Maybe not, but they were originally proposed with 15 floors, and now they are building them with only 10....:bash:

Maybe not, but they were originally proposed with 15 floors, and now they are building them with only 10....:bash:

Really? You should probably tips the buyers of the 11th floor apartments about this!:eek:

Yeah, looks like 11 floors on the web page. Still this is actually one of the best commies I've seen in Norway in a while. Go commies!

The amount of love for commies on this board astounds me....

I think Espen is the only supporter in the Norwegian section. Perhaps Ingenioren is a closet fan?
If we were to compare designs of commies, I think I prefer Grefsen stasjon over these ones...

I think i have been pretty open in my admiration of highrises.

^^highrises =/= commies

In fact, commies are the evil brother of highrises. The one that gives the rest of them a bad name.

^^highrises =/= commies

In fact, commies are the evil brother of highrises. The one that gives the rest of them a bad name.
Nah, I think the likes of Indexhuset have done more harm here.

I refere to them as highrises (høyhus), i know you like to call them commies - but commies are also highrises... :

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/129/408180668_843bc74f5d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivar_no/408180668/)
Ammerudblokkene (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivar_no/408180668/) by ivar_no (http://www.flickr.com/people/ivar_no/), on Flickr

I refere to them as highrises (høyhus), i know you like to call them commies - but commies are also highrises... :



Criminals are people too :)

And Galro has a fair point about Indexhuset - so commies are not the only ones to blame. Ammerudblokkene get you some cool pictures from the right angle but as an urban development, I think it's pretty awful

I refere to them as highrises (høyhus), i know you like to call them commies - but commies are also highrises... :

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/129/408180668_843bc74f5d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivar_no/408180668/)
Ammerudblokkene (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ivar_no/408180668/) by ivar_no (http://www.flickr.com/people/ivar_no/), on FlickrI'm not ruling out the fact that my kindergarten was in this very building as one of the reason I'm into commies. :) And I lived in a smaller commie not far away.


But for the record, commies should be built in the right places, with the right esthetical edge. Generally not a fan of commies in inner city areas!

I lived in a commie for most of this year. (Bjerke Studentby representing)

http://gfx.nrk.no/WnPRA5G1PPgug1EFAGlxGQfNNdlB7MAL_Q78f1HxJhsQ.jpg

I though it was pretty great. Inside it's just like any other apartment building, but the view over Oslo was amazing. As for the surroundings, pretty meh, but it was next to a highway so what can you expect. Linderud just down the road has some very nice commies with good outdoor areas.

I didn't know that the Spikerverk project would contain apartments too - apparently 100 of them. It's also yet another project with roof gardens here in the city. I'm loving this trend.

Illustrations:
http://www.avantor.no/img/publish/2011/12/takterrasser.jpg

Homepage to the project: http://www.spikerverket.no/


They talk about a webcam at their page, but this seems to be down for the moment. This link should lead you to a webcam when this it's fixed:
http://www.spikerverket.no/Om-prosjektet/Webcam-fra-byggeplassen/

I didn't know that the Spikerverk project would contain apartments too - apparently 100 of them. It's also yet another project with roof gardens here in the city. I'm loving this trend.

I'm sure you didn't know, but I don't think we've mentioned the project without them. I posted renders of the apartments back in January..

I'm sure you didn't know, but I don't think we've mentioned the project without them. I posted renders of the apartments back in January..


All this negativity, but at least their homepage is new any way.

I'm not negative, I just whish people would use the search-function more often...

^^ But the real reason I posted it was because that they had now launched the page and webcam for it. That can't have been posted before.

Cladding has now been put on the "courtyard side" of the latest addition to Oslo Research Park. Interestingly, the courtyard now sums up three decades of trends.

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m624/bookingsOslo/IMAG0138.jpg

In the middle, the first building, completeted in 1988. I think it has been reclad later with that colourful pattern, but I was unable to find pics of the original version.
To the right, step 2, completed in 2000. Mostly steel pillars on this side, but on the other sides it's more bricks.
Then, lastly, on the left side, step 4 (Step 3, CIENS, was built in 2006, behind step 1), the new building with cladding popular in 2011, or in the preceding years it was planned. My bet is that we someday will look back at this and think "heck, THAT cladding? What were they thinking?" :) Anyway, it looks good as of today...

Another pic showing more of the new building
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m624/bookingsOslo/IMAG0137.jpg

The back of it, facing the t-bane tracks, is still unclad. This is the final conglomerate:

http://www.forskningsparken.no/Filbibliotek/Illustrasjonsbilder/FP_ill_477.jpg
Pic from forskningsparken.no

The only thing left to build in this pic is the Gaustadbekk (the brook), which needs to be opened past the second bridge and down to Blindern t-bane station, which is just off to the left. As of today, the brook starts just to the right of the pic, and ends between the two bridges. It is only circulated, tap water, as there are too many sewage leaks upstream, while the real brook goes underground and surfaces after the station.

Oh look at that, it's the most boring of the 3...

What's interesting about the most recent addition is that it is really not that different from the functionalism of the 1930's

What's interesting about the most recent addition is that it is really not that different from the functionalism of the 1930's

So it's going to be popular in this decade and again in 2090? But I thought about the same, there are even some very similar houses nearby, both single houses and rows (http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2002/08/01/344833.html). They are much nicer, though.

In the middle, the first building, completeted in 1988. I think it has been reclad later with that colourful pattern, but I was unable to find pics of the original version.

I think I've seen it with the same pink plates, some parts of the building still have.

Bærum-politicians are yet again walking backwards into the future, and this time they've decided that the main pedestrian-street in Sandvika should be opened for cars: http://www.budstikka.no/nyheter/nytt-ja-til-biler-i-gagaten-i-sandvika-1.6665381

Remind me never to move there...:nuts:

Superunion architects wins a competition for renewing the central sqaure of Asker.

Render:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/3024135066.jpg


Link to article: http://www.budstikka.no/nyheter/midtpunkt-vant-asker-torg-1.6668375

My bet is that we someday will look back at this and think "heck, THAT cladding? What were they thinking?" :) Anyway, it looks good as of today...

I'm already saying this now. Boring as hell. Could have least included some colors like the other buildings there. A missed opportunity.

Bærum-politicians are yet again walking backwards into the future, and this time they've decided that the main pedestrian-street in Sandvika should be opened for cars: http://www.budstikka.no/nyheter/nytt-ja-til-biler-i-gagaten-i-sandvika-1.6665381

Remind me never to move there...:nuts:

As someone who's lived there for years, this won't really make it worse.

The street is too wide for the low amount of people that use it, and as a consequence it looks dead for 90% of the day. At least the cars will add some movement, and smaller sidewalks might concentrate the crowds to make it look more lively.

Having said that, the reason why it's dead is because of the mall, which should never have been approved in the first place. A lively pedestrian street would have been better, but there's not much they can do about it.

Bærum-politicians are yet again walking backwards into the future, and this time they've decided that the main pedestrian-street in Sandvika should be opened for cars: http://www.budstikka.no/nyheter/nytt-ja-til-biler-i-gagaten-i-sandvika-1.6665381

Remind me never to move there...:nuts:

Cars are here to stay and they are vital to any living city. The only thing that will change in the future is the type of engine and maybe the size of the vehicle. Personal transportation is what it's all about and it's especially important in Norway with the climate we have here.

PS: Our family car only runs about 10 000 Km per year and I use public transportation constantly, so don't confuse me for a car nut.

In a pedestrian street? You need to drive to a door?

There's plenty of parking in Helgerudgården, so it's not for easy acces they would open the street....

In a pedestrian street? You need to drive to a door?

No, but nearby parking options is vital for the stores operating in the area. I am commenting on a general basis and are not familiar with this particular street.

I think the current Oslo trend where new development is being done with the belief that the need for roads and parking lots can be ignored since the political goal is to have everyone using public transport, bikes or their legs, is very naive. Such development is difficult/impossible to correct when the development is done.

This problem is also relevant for residential areas where the roads are too low in capacity and the parking capacity likewise. If the neighbour has guests on the same day as yourself (Christmas eve perhaps...) then your guests, adults with kids, luggage and hence a car, will have nowhere to park. Cars are constantly waiting for oncoming traffic since the two lane roads only have one lane open as cars are parked in the other. It just seems so low quality and poor.

I think the current Oslo trend where new development is being done with the belief that the need for roads and parking lots can be ignored since the political goal is to have everyone using public transport, bikes or their legs, is very naive. Such development is difficult/impossible to correct when the development is done.


Where is this? Bjørvika, Tjuvholmen, Skøyen, Fornebu etc are flooded with car parks, even though they've done a lot to hide it from plain sight.

I agree with Osloborger. Very few streets have enough people to defend a pedestrian streets. In Sandvika there used to be people here, but not after the mall. There is no doubt many shops depend on cars. Especially the old, specialized ones, which have costumers from all over town.

Skattedirektoratet:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0308.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0311.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0313.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0314.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0316.jpg

New officebuilding replacing parkinglot, Bryn:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0319-1.jpg

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0321-1.jpg

Some of you may remember I presented Skullerud torg last summer: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=59174619&postcount=2293

Now the neighboring plot, Johan Scharffenbergs vei 91-93, is out on hearing.

Johan Scharffenbergs vei 91-93 will be an attempt to bring housing into an office dominated area, and give the Skullerud area some desperatly needed shopping facilities. I'm again surprised by the level of urbanity this far out in the 'burbs!
Buildings will be up to 7 floors, though the terrain is descending in the southwards direction. The project includes 140 appartments.


I start with the models, as they give the best representation of the volumes.

From north. Notice the Skullerud torg project at the lower left. Notice also that they will keep the old office buildings with the adreass JSv 91
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/JohS3.png


From south. The project will have some detatched blocks towards Johan Scharffenbergs vei
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/JohS4.png


And from east. Notice Skullerud metro station at the lower right. Østensjøbanen will go along the whole project
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/JohS5.png


Drawing of the facade towards the new central square at Skullerud. Not bad at all
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/JohS2.png


And finally a drawing of the whole complex. Not the usual OBOS crap!:cheers:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/JohS.png



Hearing ends April 11th. Proposal on hearing: http://www.plan-og-bygningsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/getfile.php/plan-%20og%20bygningsetaten%20%28PBE%29/Internett%20%28PBE%29/Dokumenter/Filer%20utlagte%20saker/2011/JohanSch_forslagsaksfremstilling.pdf

Sorry for going off topic, but I wanted to point out another terrible example of public administration gone nuts. It is to me no doubt that PBE and their case handling are a big part of the housing crisis in Oslo, and that many projects dies or get seriously delayed because of case handling from hell. This summary can be found relating to this project, dated December 21st:

ENDRET FREMDRIFT - JOHAN SCHARFFENBERGS VEI 91

Ovennevnte reguleringsforslag ble vedtatt lagt ut til offentlig ettersyn 23.02.2011 og har ligget ute til offentlig ettersyn i perioden fra 28.02.2011 til 11.04.2011.

Det er innkommet til sammen 8 bemerkninger.

Plan- og bygningsetaten har den 13.10.2011 og 09.11.2011 underrettet Byrådsavdeling for byutvikling om endret fremdrift i saken. Denne avtalte fremdriftsplanen er igjen endret. Saken forventes oversendt til politisk behandling 01.03.2012. Plan- og bygningsetaten har, ved en ny gjennomgang av saken, funnet at det bør reguleres inn en barnehage på eiendommen. Saken vil derfor bli sendt ut på en begrenset høring. Videre ønsker etaten å se nærmere på utnyttelse av eiendommen i forhold til krav til uteoppholdsarealer, samt høyder på bebyggelse mot banen. Saksbehandlingen tar dermed noe lenger tid enn tidligere antatt.
(the last letters had similar explanations)

Now they realized this?:ohno:

I know not many of you read as many of these cases as I do, but are you somehow agreeing on this? Of course there are other factors relating to this, such as rigid laws, and unsatisfying manning etc, pluss that the actual proposing company can be a time factor.

Teglverkstomta on Hasle will be on hearing now after newyears. We've seen the proposal before, but this is a bit more detailed. The suggestion includes a 11-floorer towards GrenseveienXHovinveien, a school with a handball-arena, a kindergarten, and a pretty big park/lake area to the south/east.
Partial or complete covering of the metro station/track area was considered, and deemed not necessary nor improving the project... As usual!

Two drawings:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Tegl1.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Tegl2.jpg

And a map (BIG):
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Tegl3.jpg


Complete casefile on hearing: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=3380000

Wouldn't it be better to draw something that follows the road rather than another crappy "highrise" commie on podium?

and now from the air - still niels torp;

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/weidel23/lakkegata1.jpg

Staten/Entra buys this plot. I guess it means a step forward for this eyesore of an urban infill.

http://www.bygg.no/2011/08/entra-eiendom-kjoeper-utviklingseiendom-i-oslo

This article mentiones this plot: http://e24.no/eiendom/massiv-leieflukt-fra-helsfyr/20136671

Seems the city will use about a fourth of the quarter, and that they hope to move in already 2,5 years from now.:eek:
I hope the new plans will look nothing like Niels Torp's suggestion...

Den helt nye hovedstaden (http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kommentarer/Den-helt-nye-hovedstaden-6731844.html)

ØSTENSJØ | Olaf Helsets vei 5 | 45m | 15fl | Pro

http://dittoslo.no/polopoly_fs/olaf-helsets-vei-5-1.6622262!/image/1262639526.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_980/1262639526.jpg
(Felix architects)

Another project for Skullerud T!

http://dittoslo.no/forbruker/bolig-og-interi%C3%B8r/vil-bygge-skyskraper-pa-skullerud-1.6622260?localLinksEnabled=false

Østensjø BU is not amused: Vil ikke ha skyskraper (http://dittoslo.no/nordstrands-blad/nyheter-nordstrands-blad/vil-ikke-ha-skyskraper-1.6676817)

So they don't want a skyscraper and the proposal don't include a skyscraper. Where is the problem?

Well apparently they consider 45m as a "skyscraper", which just reflects how afraid of heights NIMBYs are...

I'm 182cm, which in Østensjø would make me a "giant".

Moving there right away! :cheers2:

^^ I live there and is 188 :eek:

You're a titan then - a threat to local pavements. Bet they wish you'd lay down once in a while so they'd get out of your shadow and get some sun!

Ruseløkkveien 26 will be renovated/redesign. Will still retain the fabulous soviet era hospital look though.

http://www.hba.no/include/thumbnail/phpThumb.php?q=90&w=425&src=../../bildebank/original/1322226077_03.jpg

http://www.hba.no/bildebank/1322224956_01.jpg

Source: http://www.hba.no/?groupid=1&lang=&contentid=57

Infill to Bjørkenes privatskole. It says the project is from 2010 but I have never seen it before on LPOs page.

http://www.lpo.no/getfile.php/Prosjekter/065800%20Bjørknes%20privatskole/Bjørknes%20fra%20Frognerveien_lh_bearb%20copy.jpg

http://www.lpo.no/getfile.php/Prosjekter/065800%20Bjørknes%20privatskole/Bjørknes_modellbilde.jpg

http://www.lpo.no/getfile.php/Prosjekter/065800%20Bjørknes%20privatskole/ortofoto%20copy.jpg

http://www.lpo.no/urbanisme/bjoerknes-privatskole-article321-6.html

^^ BTW: How come this super-expensive part of the town have two plots that or used for petrol stations? Seems rather wasteful if you ask me. Surely it must be possible to incorporate those into the basement of an apartment/office block?

True. If you ask me the petrol stations should be moved somewhere else. Especially the local shell station is a perfect spot for a public square.

http://i.imgur.com/YSUis.jpg

There is a demand for petrol stations in the area though. Maybe something more discreet would be better.

^^ Okay, it would perhaps be harder to incorporate that into a new building as it already have another building standing directly behind it. The other station don't have buildings that close. Only the apartment complex at top of the hill that would complain I gues:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Frogner,+Oslo,+Norway&hl=en&ll=59.920035,10.71152&spn=0.00192,0.006968&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.644639,114.169922&vpsrc=6&hnear=Frogner,+Oslo,+Norway&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=59.919911,10.71148&panoid=Vzb_ysSEyTnjZ7DakZ4jGw&cbp=12,44.26,,0,-3.19

Another wasteful locations of a petrol stations are these at Majorstua:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Frogner,+Oslo,+Norway&hl=en&ll=59.932238,10.721915&spn=0.001919,0.006968&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.644639,114.169922&vpsrc=6&hnear=Frogner,+Oslo,+Norway&t=h&layer=c&cbll=59.932238,10.721915&panoid=xgQaChoVUQHKyctsbH4WCw&cbp=12,348.12,,0,3.74&z=18

and:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Frogner,+Oslo,+Norway&hl=en&ll=59.934995,10.72983&spn=0.001919,0.006968&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.644639,114.169922&vpsrc=6&hnear=Frogner,+Oslo,+Norway&t=h&layer=c&cbll=59.934995,10.72983&panoid=oMPrHnAnNA9bLaThXZ6vhg&cbp=12,148.93,,0,-2.63&z=18

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Another infill project. This time at Rodeløkka, inside the "villa district".
http://naturbetong.no/solhauggata12b-page.php

I guess they are going to demolish this old workshop:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Rodel%C3%B8kka+postkontor,+Oslo,+Norge&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=59.92417,10.771341&spn=0.001909,0.006968&sll=59.919912,10.711482&sspn=0.00192,0.006968&vpsrc=6&hq=Rodel%C3%B8kka+postkontor,&hnear=Oslo,+Norway&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=59.92417,10.771341&panoid=-e__yDGyD8SfYag2l9XynA&cbp=12,325.78,,1,3.17

I agree, petrol stations have no business being located in a rather dense urban street environment, but should be placed along main roads. But this one was actually not that bad since the actual store is already incorporated into the ground floor of a larger building.

New render of the Niels Torp designed office building in Nydalen called Nydalspynten. It's approved but the developmenter haven't managed to find any tenants yet and it's therefore on hold.

See large render here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=87294143&postcount=87)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6648185117_e6c06e7c66_b.jpg

Source: http://www.nielstorp.no/?gallery=nydalen-park and http://avantor.no/side/Eiendom%20&%20prosjekter/Prosjekter/Nybygg/128.html

But this one was actually not that bad since the actual store is already incorporated into the ground floor of a larger building.
I agree. I somehow thought it was worse. But look at the other stations I'm linking to. Those are just awful.

Different studies of extensions of one the buildings at Tøyen Torg, Kolstadgata 1. By Dark Arkitketer. It seems like they have put no effort into making it connect better with the surrounding roads. What a shame.

http://www.darkarkitekter.no/#/prosjekter/kolstadgata_1


And I'm not that much into it as I think PBEs site is very confusing, but from what I can see then it appears like the Student Housing in Trondheimsveien 25 have been approved and they are working towards getting the vacant petrol station demolished.

More studenthousing planned in Trondheimsveien (Where there's a car-wash place atm.)

http://alpha.apcom.no/hille-melbye/img/projects/219_1083_large_trond25_01.jpg
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=2564749

Link to the casefiles: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/search.asp?mode=all



The infill in Claus Riis gate 5 also appears to have been approved, but someone have complained about it:
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=200610370


And the infill in Delenenggata have "rammetilatelse". Does that mean that it is approved?
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201109331

Ruseløkkveien 26 will be renovated/redesign. Will still retain the fabulous soviet era hospital look though.

http://www.hba.no/include/thumbnail/phpThumb.php?q=90&w=425&src=../../bildebank/original/1322226077_03.jpg

http://www.hba.no/bildebank/1322224956_01.jpg

Source: http://www.hba.no/?groupid=1&lang=&contentid=57

Oh my god, this has to be some of the worst "modernisations" I've seen in a while.:ohno: Where is the antiquarians?! It's a wonderful building. what will they gain in making it a soulless glass/aluminium box?

And I'm not that much into it as I think PBEs site is very confusing, but from what I can see then it appears like the Student Housing in Trondheimsveien 25 have been approved and they are working towards getting the vacant petrol station demolished.

Link to the casefiles: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/search.asp?mode=all

Yes, the reg.plan was approved by the city-council last fall. I think I commented on it...
Cases can be a bit hard to get a total overview by only seeing the list of documents going in and out, so for planning cases "saksgang" is a huge help if you're new. For construction cases, you don't have that, so depending on complexity of cases, you usually have to look for "rammetillatelse" and "igangsettingstillatelse", before any physical work is done on the plot.

The infill in Claus Riis gate 5 also appears to have been approved, but someone have complained about it:
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=200610370

Fylkesmannen har for tiden stor saksmengde. Forventet saksbehandlingstid er derfor 6 måneder.
Great!:nuts:
And the infill in Delenenggata have "rammetilatelse". Does that mean that it is approved?
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201109331
Yep, that means the planning case is finished, and they have initiated the construction case. The rammetillatelse is valid for three years, though, so they don't have to start building just yet. Usually, when a rammetillatelse is in place, that's when the owning company starts selling apartments.

Different studies of extensions of one the buildings at Tøyen Torg, Kolstadgata 1. By Dark Arkitketer. It seems like they have put no effort into making it connect better with the surrounding roads. What a shame.

And two of the proposals are highrises, one extension of current building to 10 floors or building completly new 13 floors... :)

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/tyen1.jpg

Cases can be a bit hard to get a total overview by

Addresses are often mispelled or reg.plans get cute nickname and Gnr/bnr doesn't exist for "Forespørsel"... Duplicate cases are made for no appearent reason... Then there's lack of public accesible map tool.

Oh my god, this has to be some of the worst "modernisations" I've seen in a while.:ohno: Where is the antiquarians?! It's a wonderful building. what will they gain in making it a soulless glass/aluminium box?

Agreed. Especially the building in the back, it's got such a cool 60's atmosphere.

http://i.imgur.com/x6fls.jpg

^^Take a look at the renders; they're not changing that side...

And two of the proposals are highrises, one extension of current building to 10 floors or building completly new 13 floors... :)

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/tyen1.jpg

It's a pretty nice spot for a residential highrise, and look it even includes public area in the first floor! This is an inspiration for changing the rest of Tøyen S.




Addresses are often mispelled or reg.plans get cute nickname and Gnr/bnr doesn't exist for "Forespørsel"... Duplicate cases are made for no appearent reason... Then there's lack of public accesible map tool.

Hehe, Sonia Henies plass comes to mind. The site is usually pretty intuitive, though. Sometimes address-search makes sence, while sometimes "fritekst" with name of an area is more on spot.

Oh my god, this has to be some of the worst "modernisations" I've seen in a while.:ohno: Where is the antiquarians?! It's a wonderful building. what will they gain in making it a soulless glass/aluminium box?
Really? I think it's perhaps the ugliest building in the city (competing with Galleri Oslo). I will agree that the new design isn't better though.

This is an inspiration for changing the rest of Tøyen S.


No, please not. :ohno:

Noticed one thing though: Are they planing to demolish the old yellow 19th century buildings standing in the same block as the student housing goes in? It marked as "rives p27.2" on the map in casefile to the student housing:

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/748/rives.png

Link to casefile: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=2564749

Noticed one thing though: Are they planing to demolish the old yellow 19th century buildings standing in the same block as the student housing goes in? It marked as "rives p27.2" on the map in casefile to the student housing:

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/748/rives.png

Link to casefile: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=2564749

I think the building itself is marked with "rehabiliteres", while the "rives" is pointing towards the backyard with different levels. They're planning to remove certain barriers in the backyard of the whole quarter, to improve living conditions for the residents.

Really? I think it's perhaps the ugliest building in the city (competing with Galleri Oslo). I will agree that the new design isn't better though.

Jeez, you and your architectual relativism. It's a great symbol of Vika and the Jappe-tid. Vika experienced two construction booms; first the 30ies and 50ies, that replaced the old slums with modernism, then the 80ies which shows clear and quality examples of post-modernism, such as this one, Vika atrium, Aker brygge, the expansion of Dronning Mauds gate 1-3, expansion of Rådhusgata 23B and so on.. I don't get why you think it's ok to just rape this building; even though I do agree Arcasa arkitekter's shopping mall in the first to third floor has degraded it's architectual value.

Illustrative picture from E18:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vika.jpg

No, please not. :ohno:
Lol:D

Btw, there is a soon-to-be-started investigation on Tøyen, that will skissere utviklingsmuligheter for byfornyelse og byutvikling for Tøyen senter og det
bymessige og parkmessige nærområdet, i tillegg til rehabilitering av T-banestasjonen., so maybe you'll get your will...

Jeez, you and your architectual relativism. It's a great symbol of Vika and the Jappe-tid. Vika experienced two construction booms; first the 30ies and 50ies, that replaced the old slums with modernism, then the 80ies which shows clear and quality examples of post-modernism, such as this one, Vika atrium, Aker brygge, the expansion of Dronning Mauds gate 1-3, expansion of Rådhusgata 23B and so on.. I don't get why you think it's ok to just rape this building; even though I do agree Arcasa arkitekter's shopping mall in the first to third floor has degraded it's architectual value.

I think it's rather ugly, yes, but if you think otherwise then fair enough.

In general however I think the goal to the city should be to be liveable, bustling place people like to live and work in and want to visit and should be less about preserving everything no matter what. Architecture and street scape impacts people and the way they feel, and this should also be recognized when we are protecting stuff.

I don't buy into that what it represent is important either. Bad architecture don't suddenly become good if it represent something. And bad architecture greatly inflicts on our lives.


Lol:D

Btw, there is a soon-to-be-started investigation on Tøyen, that will , so maybe you'll get your will...

It's nice to see that they have realized that Tøyen senter (thought it was called Tøyen Torg?) don''t offer the best urban qualities, but at the same time I'm a little bit worried considering that many still think of Pilestredet Park as good inner city development. :ohno:

Do you know who is responsible for this investigation? Perhaps I should try to send my thoughts about how this area can be development to them.
:)

^^The city council/byrådet are responsible. Not sure if it's going to be outsourced or not. It is due to be presented July 1st.

Spikerverket, Nydalen. New renders. A slight change in the facade. A good thing?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6678512463_f041c15a65_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6678512943_a7bcc8b3de_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6678513371_aa785c8c62_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6678513993_741c6e3acf_b.jpg

More renders (albeit still very small sadly) and some info about this infill. Source: http://www.element.no/#/projects/All/60/

The plot is set along a green stretch of land in the middle of Oslo. The neighboring buildings are characterized by older brick constructions in distinctive colors such as goldenrod, red, beige and green.The idea is to give the green back to the city, both in a symbolic and physical sense.The "living green" will be on the roof garden, on the ground and on the wall facing the neighboring courtyard to the northwest.*The "symbolic green" are the other three facades toward the street and the park made of perforated recycled aluminum with a pattern that will provide the illusion of "looking through the leaves in a tree canopy."*The art also helps to solve the functional, technical and energy requirements as railings on the balconies, sun shading and noise reduction (the perforations allow the facade to absorb sound).*

Structure: "Traditional exterior wall" that solves sound and energy requirements, 1 mm recycled aluminum in various colors that acts as a wind barrier.*Next layer is planned with perforated 1.5 mm recycled aluminum and is a new "green coat".*Combined, these two layers and color schemes make the desired "green effect" in conjunction with wood as planned in all the balcony alcoves and the exterior cladding on the lower floor.*As shown in the 3d illustrations it is desired that D38 will appear green, and not with gray aluminum as issues related to reflection can pose a problem.The final colors of the two layers of aluminum, and the degree of perforation will be further developed and there will be produced a 1:1 test module.

There is established a rooftop garden (a roof garden has greater quality than a roof terrace as it is designed with approx. 70 cm soil) on the entire building's main volume and shared outdoor area which is built to the southwest and along the length of the building towards *the pedestrian and cycle paths.*In addition, several of the apartments have two balconies.*
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6679326843_fafcf4aab2_o.pnghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6679327147_60216d4461_o.png

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6679327449_7f194851be_o.pnghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6679327591_c77bbcb828_o.png

Spikerverket, Nydalen. New renders. A slight change in the facade. A good thing?


Does not fit inn with the soroundings at all I think.

^^ But are there any surroundings to fit into to? Besides the old 19th century stand alone brick building in the second render, then I can't see anything else of interest in the area or anything I would want any developments to imitate.

Er Oslo's herte stort nok? (http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/Er-Oslos-hjerte-stort-nok-6739326.html)

Interesting article about the areas where most of the real growth in the Oslo region happens. Sandvika, Lillestrøm, Jessheim, Bærums Verk, Skui, etc. Most of these places are being filled with single family homes, rowhouses, shopping malls, and office parks at an alarming rate. Why is there so little debate about this?

Er Oslo's herte stort nok? (http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/Er-Oslos-hjerte-stort-nok-6739326.html)

Interesting article about the areas where most of the real growth in the Oslo region happens. Sandvika, Lillestrøm, Jessheim, Bærums Verk, Skui, etc. Most of these places are being filled with single family homes, rowhouses, shopping malls, and office parks at an alarming rate. Why is there so little debate about this?
Because that would entail looking ourselves in the mirror? The fundamental problem is one that it's not realistic to change: the public is too conservative. There are plenty of people both willing and able to build denser, but the public won't let them because too many people have developed a religious view of what their local area should look like. They're ultimately hurting everyone, of course; the result in the long run is that everyone (their children included) has to get by with smaller and more expensive apartments, but they don't realize that or don't care about anyone but themselves.

Btw, I think that statistically Oslo proper had a little more growth than Akershus in 2011, so a lot of the growth happens inside the city borders as well. In any case, no matter where we build, we need logistical support for them, and that just isn't coming around. E18 westwards was built in the 60's and has been too small for a loooooong time. And now Oslopakke 3 is failing. We're actively heading for a wall that could so incredibly easily be avoided - there are cities 10 times bigger who function fine many places in the world, but for some reason we just seem to lack initiative or vision to keep our region working.

^^ But are there any surroundings to fit into to? Besides the old 19th century stand alone brick building in the second render, then I can't see anything else of interest in the area or anything I would want any developments to imitate.


On those renders the street looks really narrow and the building are to "boxlike" from the street that is. And I don't think the material looks good in that neighbourhood.

^ Enough with the bricks already. There is plenty of glass and steel in Nydalen and more to come so it's hardly out of place as such. Looks like they are doing 3 different claddings, well done!

On those renders the street looks really narrow and the building are to "boxlike" from the street that is. And I don't think the material looks good in that neighbourhood.

The street will have the same wide as the current one, which is of average wide by Oslo standards. I'm unsure about what I think of the materials though. I will wait to see on that one.

Spikerverket, Nydalen. New renders. A slight change in the facade. A good thing?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6678512463_f041c15a65_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6678512943_a7bcc8b3de_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6678513371_aa785c8c62_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6678513993_741c6e3acf_b.jpg

Interesting,

I walked past this Monday, and thought I recognized this pattern in the wall fittings, but obviously I must've been wrong:

http://www.nydalen.no/img.php?src=/img/publish/2010/10/egmont.jpg&w=550&h=200&zc=1


The first building is btw topped out, and have the angled roof already.

Oslo really needs a few "weird" buildings soon in my view, with some more original shapes etc. - Everything is so square-based here! Even the Opera is based on squarish shapes ffs. Its not that hard to "cut" a bit in a building and create a bit more variation, with varying geometrical shapes.

Or alternatively, add a bit more decoration elements. White or uni-colored facades there are also too many of.

Oslo is becoming tooo square for my taste. Unless something is done about it.

^^ Surely both Astrup Fearnley and the new Library should meet you're demand here? I personally prefer a good looking box over some weird shaped blob architecture, but that may be just me. The biggest problem I have is that we are getting too much shit like Waldermars Hage and similar developments.

Well I just want some more variation. All in all Oslo has no doubt improved over the last decade to 15 years, but I still feel like we have more to go on. And personally, thinking about the millions upon millions of buildings based on square shapes around the world, I think personally even a blob building is pretty cool as long as it provides some "escape from box hell". I would like to see far more curvish, roundish, as well as just plain original, in various ways, buildings. Also buildings with a lot of passageways, details, "kriker og kroker" is cool - the apartment building at Tjuvholmen is not far from what I'm thinking about when it comes to that, something in that direction, but it doesn't go all the way to what I'm imagining. But in general Aker Brygge and Tjuvholmen has some "hints" of what I'm thinking of, when it comes to "kriker og kroker."

I agree concerning Waldemars Hage and other more or less very boring projects. But about exactly Waldemars Hage, I think what really ruined it was the phase 2 of the project, as I was fairly happy with the first part/phase. But then they built phase 2 and to me personally that was a really huge letdown as it even "cheapened" the value of the first part of the project, in my mind. So to me phase 1 could absolutely have been built as it was, while they should have built something completely different in phase 2.

no photo's i'm afraid, but confirmation that the old Carlings building on Storgate is on its way down now...

Awesome, we continue to develop the city the only way we are allowed to develop the city without getting the antikvar idiots at our necks ... with demolishing historic building. More ugly Thon pieces of shits are just what this area needs. This new Thon attraction will no doubt be protected in a couple of weeks time too ... Just like the ugly as hell red barrack further up the street.

Awesome, we continue to develop the city the only way we are allowed to develop the city without getting the antikvar idiots at our necks ... with demolishing historic building. More ugly Thon pieces of shits are just what this area needs. This new Thon attraction will no doubt be protected in a couple of weeks time too ... Just like the ugly as hell red barrack further up the street.

The ugly ass, dilapidated piece of shit three-floorer is more than welcome six feet under, if you ask me. It will be a joy to see it go, and finally see an effort to make Storgata more attractive for businesses!

Btw, they've also erect a new pole for the tram-powerlines in Nygata, so probably we will see work on the neighboring building start soon as well.

PS: For your pleasure, the building across the street, Storgata 25, will get a facade upgrade to take it back to it's original design. Current looks can be seen here: http://variousarchitects.no/project/storgata_25/
Municipal: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201117416

It's only ugly because Thon isn't into the whole maintenance thing. It would look no uglier than other building of similar age with a fresh coat of paint. I do think it's s shame to pull down historic buildings just to replace them with a another Thononument

PS: It don't look like they will take Storgata 25 back to its original design to me. All the ornaments beneath the windows are still missing in their illustrations.



PS2: I have never seen the half-melted Rica seilet that was Various Architects proposal for a new Munch museum before.

I don't think I found any actual renders of Storgata 25, neither on the PBE nor the VA-site. Probably I would have to fetch it from PBE in Vahls gate, if I can care to do so.

Okay, but you are sure they will add all those lost ornaments? That means banana time if true ... :banana:

Don't remember if we've ever posted this project. Thon is tearing down a building in Dronningens gate 32 (not exactly a beauty). The building is only one building from Karl Johans gate. Current looks:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Dronningensgate.jpg


Plan also includes Karl Johans gate 6B, Dronningens gate 34 (Flava-store) and Skippergata 25 (ugly ass protected 2-floorer), which all will be renovated/upgraded and turned into apartments with stores in 1-2 floors and some office space. There will also be a new backyard.

Renders of the new Dronningens gate 32:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Dronningensgate2.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Dronningensgate3.jpg


Link to Rammesøknad: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=3191219

Don't know if you've noticed, but all shops in these buildings are now emptied, including Gamestop, "Dennis grill", Flava and Jafs. This alone has improved the image of KJs gate!:lol:

Looks like a small change in designs, which also shows Dronningens gate 34 in a different color than white. This should be enough reason to raise the flag!!:banana:

(look at the balconies facing Karl Johan!)
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/KJ-kvartal.jpg

Rammetillatelse has been given..

Just like the ugly as hell red barrack further up the street.

Are the red barracks protected?
We need to hire a pyromaniac then.

^^ Yes, they are. And not be Byantikvaren either but actually by Riksantikvaren, so they are in theory an important part of Norways history.:nuts:

^^Technically the plan has never been approved, but I guess we should be really lucky if we ever see it go...
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=200309691

New design of Schweigaards gate 21-23:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/SchweigaardsgtIllustrasjonLundogSlaattoArkitekter.jpg


http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/SchweigaardsgtIllustrasjonLundogSlaattoArkitekter1.jpg

Two big, fat boxes. How is that preferable to some slim scrapers?

BTW: How you do manage to get big Lund and Slaato renders? All the ones at their site appears small to me with no obvious way to expand them.

Ok, I guess we can just forget about getting anything as spectacular as this, now that OBOS are taking over the project: http://www.bygg.no/2011/11/veidekke-og-obos-handler-for-700-millioner

For shame!:ohno:

And now it's done: http://www.bygg.no/2012/01/veidekke-fullfoerer-stort-eiendomskjoep

Two big, fat boxes. How is that preferable to some slim scrapers?

BTW: How you do manage to get big Lund and Slaato renders? All the ones at their site appears small to me with no obvious way to expand them.

Lund + Slaatto page shows old renders... These new ones are from ROM Eiendom.

I was looking around in Google Maps when I suddenly discover this paved path in the western suburbs of the city. It looks really awkward like it is part of a larger masterplan for park that was never fulfilled. Or perhaps they planed to build a garden city here? Any one knows anything about?
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=59.926667,10.701389&ll=59.939005,10.682769&spn=0.00049,0.001742&t=h&vpsrc=6&z=20


And there is a gate placed randomly further up the road. This gate align perfectly with the axis created by the paved path.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=59.926667,10.701389&ll=59.94266,10.683107&spn=0.000974,0.003484&t=h&vpsrc=6&z=19&layer=c&cbll=59.94266,10.683107&panoid=XiUGKQy7Tx3KZye--JjLCg&cbp=12,326.33,,0,4.36


Edit: Now when I have looked around then it appears like it may have been part of large park/garden belonging to the farm even further up:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=59.926667,10.701389&ll=59.944385,10.683539&spn=0.000979,0.003484&t=h&vpsrc=6&z=19

Don't remember if I ever posted this or not, but the two hotels in Tevlingveien 21, behind Statoil/McDonald's on E6 by Trosterud, are closing up to construction. A total of 343 rooms + conference facilities are planed, and the hotels will be operated by two different Rezidor concepts, namely Radisson Blu and ParkInn. Construction start is this March, and expected completetion second half 2013.

Illustrations by architects Kosberg arkitektkontor, which is best known for Rica Seilet:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Utennavn-2.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/str.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Hol.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/rgl.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/t.jpg

Two big, fat boxes. How is that preferable to some slim scrapers?


+1 :ohno:
To be honest, though, this place could probably take higher total volume as well.

Don't remember if I ever posted this or not, but the two hotels in Tevlingveien 21, behind Statoil/McDonald's on E6 by Trosterud, are closing up to construction. A total of 343 rooms + conference facilities are planed, and the hotels will be operated by two different Rezidor concepts, namely Radisson Blu and ParkInn. Construction start is this March, and expected completetion second half 2013.

Illustrations by architects Kosberg arkitektkontor, which is best known for Rica Seilet:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Utennavn-2.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/str.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Hol.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/rgl.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/t.jpgAbout time they did something about that lot!

Some new officeprojects comming up:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/sep10/nordbyg1.jpg

Sorry for being lazy, but this was the only quoteable post I found just now..

The building has been rented out for Tine and YS (moving just across the river), and the building will be ready December 2013. They have just started working on the plot, and Lakkegata 21 is currently being demolished (as I saw today).

As previously mentioned, the building will house a restaurant and a kindergarten in it's first floor.

http://www.nenyheter.no/39006

"Akerselvas nye Landemerke" Yeah, right.

I know we just discussed the Brugata/Storgata/Christian Krohgs gate quarter where "prinds christian augusts minde" and the hobo-shop is.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/brugt.png

As presented earlier there will be "protection", and there will be a "park"-ish pathway across. Just thought I'd post a render of the hotel, futuring the protected firewall towards the Brugata blocks:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/20120119_001.jpg

There will also be a new four-floorer facing Brugata for the hotel, but the building was so bland, it litteraly redefined the word. Hint: Thon would've liked it.

Esso petrol station Skøyen has been closed down. Norwegian Property to build office building between 10.000 - 12.000 m2.
http://www.nenyheter.no/38084

^^There's a rivningssak, but no reguleringssak yet. I wonder why they hurried so much to close it down. Another plot staying empty in Skøyen for half a decade....

I have a distinct feeling there will be a crash in the commercial real estate market. Oslo needs more residences, not more offices.

Webcam picture of the construction of Spikerverket in Nydalen. Hands down the best webcam I've seen.

http://www.avantor.no/img/buildcam.jpg?2088_2012-01-21

:cheers:

^^

Shiny.

not so good if you live in one of the houses tho, time to start drawing the curtains.

^^The apartment-section closest to the villas will only be two floors.

^^^^
It's taken with a Canon EOS 550D according to the EXIF information on the picture. It's quite sufficient! The Bjørvika web cam is also quite good with its super size, but it seems less polished.

^^

Shiny.

not so good if you live in one of the houses tho, time to start drawing the curtains.
That is actually a good point. Maybe they should change the angle just a little bit?

^^^^
It's taken with a Canon EOS 550D according to the EXIF information on the picture. It's quite sufficient! The Bjørvika web cam is also quite good with its super size, but it seems less polished.

And how do you find the exif info on pictures?

And how do you find the exif info on pictures?

I save the picture locally and the look at the properties.

And how do you find the exif info on pictures?

And if you use Opera like I do, then you can just right click on the picture and go down to "egenskaper for bilde" and it will come up. :)

Two projects from Vitaminveien, Nydalen I don't think we've seen in here. Both are drawn by Hille-Melbye arkitekter for Thon Group.

Vitaminveien 11 (and Sandakerveien 109-111) is a somehow chaotic plot in Nydalen. It is the plot south of this: Sandakerveien 113-119 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=62241663&postcount=2373). What they plan is keeping the old Slipeskive-factory that today is SATS, and replace the parking lot in front of it with a park/square. The 3 and 7 floor officebuilding east on the plot will be replaced with new offices and apartments in 6-8 floors, ordered in "quarter-like" structure.

The main qualities is beautification, and moving structures closer to Vitaminveien, and opening up the street-level.

Render:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vitam.jpg


Map:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vitam2.jpg


The project is currently awaiting a new plan sketch, due to Thon group changing their mind in pursuing an increase in shopping area to 10.000 sqm. This is to save time by not going through a "konsekvensutredning", which is demanded here as municipality plan allows for up to 4.000 sqm shopping on this specific plot. Therefor, the renders I showed are very much subject for a later change.

Link to plan sketch: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=3384533



Vitaminveien 6 is a current Citroën dealer opposite of Storo senter. Developer again wants to effectivise the usage, and introduce a combination of office and housing. The plan has arised massive protests form neighboring GE Healthcare (old Nycomed), that are afraid of conflicts between medical industry and housing. Developer therefor also offers an alternative usage without apartments at all, only offices.

Renders, first three show plan with housing. Offices-space in the part facing Vitaminveien again:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vitam3.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vitam4.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vitam5.jpg

This last render shows how the buildings would look if there were only offices. The back-block would be bulkyier and shorter, due to different demands for offices than apartments.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Vitam6.jpg

Link to plan sketch: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=2826262


I also found a project for Vitaminveien 4, but it seems to have been withdrawn due to developer wanting to rethink some stuff (closest to us in the last render). It may get ressurected at a later point. Link: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201008976

About Sandakerveien 113-119, there is currently a revised plan now only with student housing in the apartment-block, which most likely will be on hearing in June, and may get political treatment this fall. Time schedule: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?caseno=200610707&wfl=Y

The cladding in the first project looks extremely cheap. Are these renders meant to only show the volumes are they of the final designs?

The cladding in the first project looks extremely cheap. Are these renders meant to only show the volumes are they of the final designs?

Nope, their just sketches for the regulations. Height/volumes and usage are key principles here. Facades and materials are usually not specified until the "byggesak" is sent in, when the regulations alread are legal.

I think the actual plan looks nice enough though and I believe Hille-Melbye arkitekter have drawn some good looking buildings before so hopefully it will turn out good looking. :)

Småbutikker kastes ut av Ringnes-selskap (http://dittoslo.no/nyheter/smabutikker-kastes-ut-av-ringnes-selskap-1.6349844)
"I løpet av 2011 er det slutt for de små nisjebutikkene i Vinkelgården på Majorstuen. De er sagt opp fordi bygget skal totalrenoveres."

I noticed today the refurbishment has started. This will be a new super-office for bank and real-estate agent DNB. The only one of the old boutiques that will stay in the building, is the coffee-shop towards Valkyriegata.

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/weidel23/stor3.png

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/weidel23/stor2.png

Colors seems awful, must be changed.

And there you go, a new design:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Stortgata_14_18.jpg
Made by ØKAW arkitekter.


Many of you probably have seen that they've started moving the overhead wires for the tram. Estimated construction period is about 2 years, and the may start as soon as they get theire final apporvals later this year. Aritcle: -Løft for Storgata (http://e24.no/eiendom/ny-thon-utbygging-et-loeft-for-storgata/20144934)

^^ The roof/top floor and the wall on the right side actually looked better in the original proposal, IMO.

Beside that not really much change to see here. The building was, more or less, mindnumbingly boring and it still is.

Nice new renders. And like the enviromentalfrieldy approach. Allegedly that is.

However I really wish a new construction could gain some height. Little bit slimmer, but higher and make it a little bit more spacious on the sidewalk.

And hey, it's not like there is a park around it can shade for.

When we talk about Storgata, I have been wondering for a long time, why isn't the Gunerius shopping mall being refurbished??!

The state it is in now reminds more of a slum and is probably the worst shopping mall in oslo. The location is good and there are a lot of pedestrians in this area so I would have thought there is a market for something better? And if one look at the map, the block is not too heavily utilised, except for the exisiting highrise towards Storgata (a very ugly office tower) there is plenty of space for expansion, both for a much larger shopping mall as well as another office tower/skyscraper (on top of the multi storey car park directly opposite north side of Oslo Spektrum).

Do anyone knows who owns the Gunerius Centre? They are not really maximising profits out of their property

Thon owns it. He owns practically all buildings in the surrounding area, which is why they are so neglected.

When we talk about Storgata, I have been wondering for a long time, why isn't the Gunerius shopping mall being refurbished??!

The state it is in now reminds more of a slum and is probably the worst shopping mall in oslo. The location is good and there are a lot of pedestrians in this area so I would have thought there is a market for something better? And if one look at the map, the block is not too heavily utilised, except for the exisiting highrise towards Storgata (a very ugly office tower) there is plenty of space for expansion, both for a much larger shopping mall as well as another office tower/skyscraper (on top of the multi storey car park directly opposite north side of Oslo Spektrum).

Do anyone knows who owns the Gunerius Centre? They are not really maximising profits out of their property

No new ones after this proposal from the 90ies:
http://www.oslomodellverksted.no/images/modeller/thon_tower2.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/thon_tower1_1.jpg


I guess he's still waiting for the right time to do his investment. Storgata still has a way to go to regain it's old greatness. Samferdselsetaten's project for tram-only Storgate may be a boost to the street, and also Thon has two projects in Storgata I'm guessing he's prioritizing before Gunerius (which I'm pretty sure is quite profitable).

. Storgata still has a way to go to regain it's old greatness.

You think it will ever get that "greatness" back with Thon architecture? :nuts:

No new ones after this proposal from the 90ies:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/thon_tower1_1.jpg


I guess he's still waiting for the right time to do his investment. Storgata still has a way to go to regain it's old greatness. Samferdselsetaten's project for tram-only Storgate may be a boost to the street, and also Thon has two projects in Storgata I'm guessing he's prioritizing before Gunerius (which I'm pretty sure is quite profitable).


A skyscraper at this location would be nice! hopefully with a bit more modern design than the one earlier proposed. A height similar to Oslo Plaza would create a nice highrise-triangle together with Postgirobygget...

But most important, whatever development is proposed, the activation of street level facades must be safeguarded: All buildings should have shops oriented towards the street: Ie no bland walls or offices on ground floor! In this regard, Storgata 14-18 will be an improvement compared with todays ugly office building at this corner (without shops on street level).

What/where is the other project you mention Thon is doing atm in Storgata, in addition to Storgata 14-18?

^^Storgata 27.

^^Storgata 27.

^^Are there any renders here on ssc or elsewhere?

^^Storgata 27.
So it still going on? :ohno: Another historic building going down and being replaced with a Thon piece of shit. One of the Oslos oldest buildings outside of Kvadraturen too.

It's not an active regulation case, but I would be surprised if the crumbling 3-floorers can stand another 5 years...

And there you go, a new design:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Stortgata_14_18.jpg
Made by ØKAW arkitekter.


Many of you probably have seen that they've started moving the overhead wires for the tram. Estimated construction period is about 2 years, and the may start as soon as they get theire final apporvals later this year. Aritcle: -Løft for Storgata (http://e24.no/eiendom/ny-thon-utbygging-et-loeft-for-storgata/20144934)

i prefer the original render, but both are super dull and i'm sure lower than the existing structure, they seem to be going for more uniformity....

It's not an active regulation case, but I would be surprised if the crumbling 3-floorers can stand another 5 years...

He should be forced to renovate it. Many cities in the world requires the owners to use at least enough money to keep the historic buildings standing and presentable. We should do that too. Not let the likes of Thon get away with it.

He should be forced to renovate it. Many cities in the world requires the owners to use at least enough money to keep the historic buildings standing and presentable. We should do that too. Not let the likes of Thon get away with it.

As this case from Schweigaards gate shows, we have laws that can be used in these cases: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=3344266
It's important that the public follows up, and report the cases that are bothersome, though. No one actively take trips around the city to report violations of Plan- og bygningsloven.

Do you know what the situation is currently with the building at the corner of Youngs Gate and Torggata? The one that got occupied a little while ago. I know that Entra want to build some new offices there, but antikvaren won't let them so they've just left the buildings to rot.

Sorry, I don't know. Only as the reg.plan says, that it's in the hands of the city council's city development department.

I hope those yellow boxes gets approved. Just what Yongstorget needs imho. :)

(that's still the current proposal, right?)

^^Theire plan is to increase height of a new backyard building from 6 to 8 floors. I guess that is based on the suggestion as shown in post #1507 as you say. ØKAW arkitekter currently has the case.

ØKAW arkitekter is also responsible for the gray thing above here so that don't sound very promising. Are they only handling the regulations case for Lund and Slaato (which I believe were the one behind the yellow glass boxes) or have they taking over the project?

Edit: ØKAW arkitekter was also behind the hideousness that was recently built in Rosenkrantz gate.

ØKAW arkitekter is also responsible for the gray thing above here so that don't sound very promising. Are they only handling the regulations case for Lund and Slaato (which I believe were the one behind the yellow glass boxes) or have they taking over the project?

Not unlikely that they've taken over the project. The reg.plan under treatment now is from late 2010, much later than the competition held giving L+S' proposal.

No new ones after this proposal from the 90ies:
http://www.oslomodellverksted.no/images/modeller/thon_tower2.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/thon_tower1_1.jpg


I guess he's still waiting for the right time to do his investment. Storgata still has a way to go to regain it's old greatness. Samferdselsetaten's project for tram-only Storgate may be a boost to the street, and also Thon has two projects in Storgata I'm guessing he's prioritizing before Gunerius (which I'm pretty sure is quite profitable).
1) Oh yeah, thank god we didn't get that - thankfully we got to keep that beautiful car park in stead. [/sarcasm]

Where did you find this anyway?

2) what piece of flying shit is this:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Stortgata_14_18.jpg
Made by ØKAW arkitekter.

That's gotta be a stealth building: Its so bland, your eyes can point straight at it and still you won't notice it's there. Perfect for hiding a sniper.

But seriously; can anyone please tell me in what way, shape or form this is an improvement (for anyone) over what is already there? It seems quite wasteful to loose two entire years of rent and spend a ton of cash and then get essentially what was there already.

1) Oh yeah, thank god we didn't get that - thankfully we got to keep that beautiful car park in stead. [/sarcasm]

Where did you find this anyway?


He probably found it in my post in the Oslo of Yore tread. I again found it here: http://www.oslomodellverksted.no/detail5.php?id=40&kategori=1&skalaID=9

He probably found it in my post in the Oslo of Yore tread. I again found it here: http://www.oslomodellverksted.no/detail5.php?id=40&kategori=1&skalaID=9

Yepp. Btw, the modellverksted says it was drawn by arkitektene Lysaker Mølle, which according to Wiki ceased to exist 01.01.2000. I've got no specific year for the plan, though... http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_signatur

Startskudd for parkbygging i Groruddalen (http://www.bygg.no/2012/01/83643.0)

Startskudd for parkbygging i Groruddalen (http://www.bygg.no/2012/01/83643.0)

Nice. Love parks. Oslo has to be one of the cities in Europe with the most square meters of parks per innhabitant?


One other thing. This is perhaps a bit speculative:

An acquaintance of mine told me his dad works in a company (don't know which) who are currently planing a compartmentbuilding in Arendalsgata, opposite Lunsjbaren, on the plot of the old gas station.
Does anybody here - which seems to have a bit more insight in architecture and ingineering companies than me - know anything about this?

A really interresting plot to construct on in one of Oslo's finest neighbourhoos streets. Reckon there will be a deabte about it as well. About the evt shading of Lunsjbarensquare.

Hope they don't plan for something really normal and boring.

As for Storgata/Nygata, I think they should refurbish the building since it is a part of the street and it fits in to the picture better than the renderings I've seen. But if I have too choose I guess I pick the latest rendering.

Nice. Love parks. Oslo has to be one of the cities in Europe with the most square meters of parks per innhabitant?

It's not only parks with have lots of either, but also other types of greeneries like trees along the streets, inner city gardens facing the streets, and flower and bushes climbing onto different walls. Example: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Oscars+gate,+Oslo,+Norge&hl=en&ll=59.917451,10.71933&spn=0.003899,0.013937&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.02446,114.169922&oq=oscars+gate&vpsrc=6&hq=Oscars+gate,&hnear=Oslo,+Norway&t=h&fll=59.917683,10.723042&fspn=0.003899,0.013937&z=17&layer=c&cbll=59.917537,10.719453&panoid=uyCYxp2_S_-pNg7UHVa2Zg&cbp=12,359.48,,0,-4.57

I think Oslo may be among Europes greenest cities full stop. Especially if we add all the forests inside the city limits. I think that's something to be proud of. :)

And the city will become even greener when all the infills and various other projects that includes roof gardens are finished!

One other thing. This is perhaps a bit speculative:

An acquaintance of mine told me his dad works in a company (don't know which) who are currently planing a compartmentbuilding in Arendalsgata, opposite Lunsjbaren, on the plot of the old gas station.
Does anybody here - which seems to have a bit more insight in architecture and ingineering companies than me - know anything about this?

A really interresting plot to construct on in one of Oslo's finest neighbourhoos streets. Reckon there will be a deabte about it as well. About the evt shading of Lunsjbarensquare.

Hope they don't plan for something really normal and boring.

It would of course be nice with a striking modern infill here (perhaps one that used wood as a nod to the many wooden buildings at Sagene?), but I wouldn't except much to be honest unless you know that this company usually spends more on architecture. Most of the infills built on that side of the city appears to be of the boring and cheap commie-style type.

Nice. Love parks. Oslo has to be one of the cities in Europe with the most square meters of parks per innhabitant?


One other thing. This is perhaps a bit speculative:

An acquaintance of mine told me his dad works in a company (don't know which) who are currently planing a compartmentbuilding in Arendalsgata, opposite Lunsjbaren, on the plot of the old gas station.
Does anybody here - which seems to have a bit more insight in architecture and ingineering companies than me - know anything about this?

A really interresting plot to construct on in one of Oslo's finest neighbourhoos streets. Reckon there will be a deabte about it as well. About the evt shading of Lunsjbarensquare.

Hope they don't plan for something really normal and boring.
I live about 100 m from that place, so I'll get my chance to be an angry NIMBY neighbor (IT'S THE PLACE I DUMP MY ELECTRIC WASTE, GODDAMMIT!!) :D

But seriously, I've heard talk about a 4 floor lowrise on that plot for years, but so far nothing. It's mostly just wasted space the way it is now, but I think normal and boring is what you'll get. Much has been built in this area over the last decade and nothing is worth noting.

But if it happens, I can maybe provide some pictures :)

Nice. Love parks. Oslo has to be one of the cities in Europe with the most square meters of parks per innhabitant?


One other thing. This is perhaps a bit speculative:

An acquaintance of mine told me his dad works in a company (don't know which) who are currently planing a compartmentbuilding in Arendalsgata, opposite Lunsjbaren, on the plot of the old gas station.
Does anybody here - which seems to have a bit more insight in architecture and ingineering companies than me - know anything about this?

A really interresting plot to construct on in one of Oslo's finest neighbourhoos streets. Reckon there will be a deabte about it as well. About the evt shading of Lunsjbarensquare.

Hope they don't plan for something really normal and boring.

Okay, the result of my diggings: The plot is currently regulated for a two floor building with "saltak" (ie usable for a third floor). Arcasa arkitekter sent a request last spring, where they presented a plan for 15 apartments with the adresses Maridalsveien 149-151. They have yet to send a building application, though. Arcasa also sit on a rammetillatelse for tearing down the gas station, which they got last fall.


edit: Sorry, I just realized my error. Here's the plan: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201109005
No illustrations online...

JM!!!!:nuts:

Arcasa ... Then I guess it will be another boring and cheap commie-style building like I said. :(

Edit: If JM is behind it, then it is even worse!

The situasjon plan gives you some hint to how to expect main volume and angled-roof construction.

Okay, the result of my diggings: The plot is currently regulated for a two floor building with "saltak" (ie usable for a third floor). Arcasa arkitekter sent a request last spring, where they presented a plan for 15 apartments with the adresses Maridalsveien 149-151. They have yet to send a building application, though. Arcasa also sit on a rammetillatelse for tearing down the gas station, which they got last fall.


edit: Sorry, I just realized my error. Here's the plan: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201109005
No illustrations online...

JM!!!!:nuts:

Nice digging.


A bit ambivalent to it. I like the height actually. Suits the area.

A lot of different architecture styles in that area when this is completed. Don't know if it's cool or weird. Have to consider the fact that this is one of Oslo's old and traditional working class neighbourhoods.

The situasjon plan gives you some hint to how to expect main volume and angled-roof construction.

Yeah, that's probably okay. I was thinking about the details/actual designs of the building. When Arcasa is behind the project then I guess the final results will leave a lot to be desired even if the planning/size of the building is okay enough.

Nice digging.


A bit ambivalent to it. I like the height actually. Suits the area.

A lot of different architecture styles in that area when this is completed. Don't know if it's cool or weird. Have to consider the fact that this is one of Oslo's old and traditional working class neighbourhoods.
We're not that cheap are we? Are we?? :(

Riksantikvaren to the rescue. St. Hallvards kirke is now fredet. Thank god, we managed to save this box!

http://dittoslo.no/polopoly_fs/st-hallvard-1.6740546!/image/3897586986.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_980/3897586986.jpg

http://dittoslo.no/indre-by/nyheter-indre-by/st-hallvard-blir-hyllet-for-unik-arkitektur-na-fredes-den-1.6740544


What creativity they had in the 60ies...

Can someone please stop this guy.

Yeah, that's a beauty worth saving :nuts:

GAMLE OSLO | Ø27

Some nice renderings of passive house officebuilding in Østensjøveien 27 by Henning Larsen architects for Ncc:

http://www.futurebuilt.no/?nid=207426&iid=300319&pid=NAL-EcoProject-Pictures.Native-InnerFile-File&r_n_d=92268_&adjust=1&x=700&y=550&from=0&bgc=255255255&zmode=fit

http://www.futurebuilt.no/?nid=207426&iid=300318&pid=NAL-EcoProject-Pictures.Native-InnerFile-File&r_n_d=92268_&adjust=1&x=700&y=550&from=0&bgc=255255255&zmode=fit

http://www.futurebuilt.no/?nid=207426&iid=300322&pid=NAL-EcoProject-Pictures.Native-InnerFile-File&r_n_d=92268_&adjust=1&x=700&y=550&from=0&bgc=255255255&zmode=fit

http://www.futurebuilt.no/?nid=207426

The building will be finished second half of 2013: http://www.bygg.no/2012/01/83851.0

Some few more renders:

http://www.bygg.no/image/44907/1/44907_1.jpg

http://www.bygg.no/image/44906/1/44906_1.jpg

I wonder if you know this one.


Owners of Drammensveien 134 are planning to expand and build together four of the buildings on the plot. The 4 towers were built in the mid-80ies, but don't represent the urban area Skøyen has become today. Developer wants to increase height, upgrade facades, and make a more inviting 1st floor with a café etc.

Some renders, architect is Dark Arkitekter:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/77_-2140280662_xl.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/77_823783596_xl.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/77_151249478_xl.jpg

Planning authorties aren't too fond of this one. They think the rebuild will destroy the relationship between these buildings and the protected Thune workshop on the other side of Verkstedveien. Especially the insane heights (7 floors) are a problem, plus that the building won't be in bricks anymore and it will have uniform heights, which is bad all of a sudden.

See the special bond between the buildings here:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Drv134.jpg


Link to case file with planning authorities: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201012521
Plan map: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=2826775

A slight redesign. As we know, PBE aren't too fond of this one. DARK arkitekter and developer Norwegian Property are at least continuing the plan work. New is that they've changed the facade material back to bricks, and adjusted the volumes slightly.
New plan sketch can be found here: http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/showfile.asp?fileid=3396246


The reworked concept comes with two suggestions for cladding:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Drammensveien.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Drammensveien2.jpg

That's a bit of a shame, the first floor was a lot more inviting in the last design.

Riksantikvaren to the rescue. St. Hallvards kirke is now fredet. Thank god, we managed to save this box!

http://dittoslo.no/polopoly_fs/st-hallvard-1.6740546!/image/3897586986.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_980/3897586986.jpg

http://dittoslo.no/indre-by/nyheter-indre-by/st-hallvard-blir-hyllet-for-unik-arkitektur-na-fredes-den-1.6740544


What creativity they had in the 60ies...

Once you get past the plain exterior, it's actually an interesting building on the inside..

http://multimedia.dn.no/archive/00163/D2-kirker-St-Hallva_163434i.jpg

http://www.byggutengrenser.no/filer/imagecache/full/images/st_hallvard_kirke__kloster_alter_original.jpg

Is it good architecture then if it is placed in the middle of the city while only the interior is something worthwhile?

The old, historic shape of this building under renovation have started to appear:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6790206735_99e21ac42d_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6790207007_a39de73834_b.jpg

Demolishing works have started at Skøyen:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6790241571_c29fb2c4d3_b.jpg

... And lower Karl Johan:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6790243013_a78c81b4c0_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6790243215_283b398332_b.jpg

^^

Looks good. I used to work at that 7-11 for a while. Always annoyed me how the building had been stripped. :)

^^ Are you talking about the one being demolished in the last set of pictures or the one under renovation in the first? Both buildings have been stripped and both lies close to a 7-11. :)

Architect Hille Melbye and local developer Grønland 18 AS, are working on a new apartment building in said address. The plan on keeping the current building facing Grønland, and have a new building with various usage towards Motzfeldts gate in 5 +"1-2" floors.

A small illustration:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Grnland.jpg


The plan is fresh from the oven, so not much else now. Motzfeldts gate could use an upgrade, though! Sadly, an initiative for Grønland 24, which the other side of the street is part of, died in 2010.
God, that this picture actually is from Oslo!:nuts::
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Motz.jpg

^^
From the illustration, it seems the run down shacks will be untouched by the development. They are at the bottom right of the illustration as I understand it. Is that Grønland 24 where previous plans died out?

^^Yes that's correct. I realize it looks a bit stupid that my street view doesn't show the plan area...

Regulations for a permanent Fish-market at Rådhusplassen/-brygga was approved by the city board earlier this January. This is a good sign for an old dream-project for many Osloians.

Original sketches were made by 4B architects, but I'm guessing a fresh design competition may be in place.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/fiskehallen-radhusplassen_2.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/fiskehallen-radhusplassen_1.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/fiskehallen-radhusplassen_4.jpg


http://www.sak.oslo.kommune.no/dok/Bystyret/2012_01/971237_1_1.PDF

^^That's a great idea. Hopefully it will be nice and big enough to hide the eyesore that will come behind it (the new national museum).

Regulations for a new infill-project approved for Grünerløkka, bordering Nybrua. An old crumbling 2-floorer will be replaced by a modern office/boutique in three floors, while the neighboring two floorer will be completely restored to original state, both in Thorvald Meyers gate 89.

Some renders, from architect Various architects:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Thorv.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Thorv2.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Thorv3.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Thorv4.jpg



A definate improvement, but I think the property could've handled a lot more than three floors...

I think it's shame to pull down the old blue building. That was the nicest one of two! Would have been much better to build above the roof line imho.

Wtf. They will remove the only interesting detail on the cornerbuilding too: http://kart.finn.no/?lng=10.75934&lat=59.91869&zoom=19&mapType=finnvector&streetview=true&svx=262993.34141969&svy=6649950.1511436&sa=316.7289490685013&sp=39.89283129015574&streetViewState=1

^^Well, then either it's not a authentic feature, or they've been lazy with their computer renderings. You are of course free to read all documentation they've provided within the case at PBE's site. But, hell, I ain't!:lol:

Fuck authentic for once. How about prettiness? But no, I'm not going to read the documents either. I prefer to whine based on ignorance.

^^ Are you talking about the one being demolished in the last set of pictures or the one under renovation in the first? Both buildings have been stripped and both lies close to a 7-11. :)

The one under renovation in the first. You'd only posted the first one when I clicked reply =P

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Motz.jpg
Let me guess: this is protected, right... :sleepy:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6790243013_a78c81b4c0_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6790243215_283b398332_b.jpg

what exac tly is happening here, i must have missed this one? are they demolishing that corner building, i'd be surprised if that would be allowed?

^^Two weeks since my last update!:D

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=87604404&postcount=3864

what exac tly is happening here, i must have missed this one? are they demolishing that corner building, i'd be surprised if that would be allowed?

Only the middle building without windows will be pulled down. The rest will be renovated.

Another story about a developer vs. city/state-antiquarians. It's an interesting read: http://www.nenyheter.no/39072

The department of environment/protection gives the developer right in this one, but the case may just as well end up in nothing. As we know, the ABN-kvartalet development is already practicly finished.


This is what the building that developer wanted to tear down looks like:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/vreVol.jpg


And this is what they wanted to build, courtesy by Narud Stokke Wiig architects:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/vreVol2.jpg


I know what Galro will answer, but what do you others think about it?

Hm... well the original building offers little to no to the street as it is, and if you redo the first floor to have shop windows or something, you will ruin much of the look of the building anyway. So you might as well start over with a new building.

Absolute awful. :ohno: Protection of actual historic buildings (not just ugly ass eyesores) is a absolute joke in this city. The new building looks ugly and depressive enough to be protected in fthe future though.

Hm... well the original building offers little to no to the street as it is, and if you redo the first floor to have shop windows or something, you will ruin much of the look of the building anyway. So you might as well start over with a new building.

I dont think there are much life in this street. So with less the plan is to revitalize the whole street (which doubt, as it is a "cecum"), I dont see the point building new to get shopping space. I think they should keep it.

It's never going to be a attractive street either with gray and depressive buildings like the ones that currently stands there and this new infill. Kvadraturen is dark enough as it is, it don't need depressive architecture to make it feel even more so.

Cobblestones and some trees, and I think the street could been nice enough..

In my honest opinion, only great architects can make a dull/boring/unlively street change by drawing a building. And at this site it is very little changeable features as well. But i seriously think that apartments would be best. If new building in downtown we need to put up apartments, and especially in Kvadraturen and this area which is sort of kvadraturen.

I will however say that the new office building opens up a bit more and i would definitely prefer new towards the old one in this case. This street is completely dead after dark, so more light and more people after dark is what it needs.

I am in fact superimpressed that Olav Thon got Karl Johan project approved and hands up for byantikvaren in this case. Because this quartal has been shit from day one. And the level of new buildings and preservation i think is correct in that specific case. Will definitely take lower karl johan up a notch from today i my opinion.

But what is the point with a so-called old town if we demolish all the historic buildings there?

^^Two weeks since my last update!:D

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=87604404&postcount=3864

ah, i remember it now, thanks - didn't think they'd pull the corner one down...

Im torn on øvre vollgt, I actually quite like how it looks in the renders, but its hard to tell what the current situation is with only one unflattering image. Will have to pay a visit next time Im in town.
A more sensitive solution might be to add extra floors and preserve the facade. I disagree that the ground floor cannot be altered to accomodate shops, but the location might serve better for flats or offices anyway.
A more visionary solution seems to me to have a building, which provides public access down to Rosenkrantz gt, kinda like slotspassagen, but with stairs. The recent construction in Rosenkrantz passed up on that opportunity though.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o190/jmoxon/oslo%20bilder/Rosenkrantzgt31jan2012.jpg

Didnt turn out too bad:)

http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/Hoyblokken-ma-rives-6754669.html#.TyqpjGCwly4

I like this guy. Brings out an important point: There's nothing unique or "Norwegian" about Høyblokka.

To be a guy who strongly criticizes "walls" (murer) throughout Oslo, limiting "siktlinjer," I find it intriguing that Jørn Holme wants to protect this ruin of a building. It's heavily damaged. It's non-functional. It's not safe. Replace it.

Work have started on 'trygdegården' in Sandvika. Not sure how the finish building will look like or if they will demolish the stairs and 'øvre torg' where Vinmonopolet is located. In the render it also looks like the carpark is gone.

http://www.bygg.no/cache/image/39219/53/øvre-torg-bredde.jpg

Current building
http://www.entra.no/ImageArchive/Eiendommer/Stor-Oslo/Øvre%20Torv%201,%20Sandvika/øvre-torg.JPG?t=5363616C65546F46696C6C3A3730307833323517344110B882289ADD7362816CF1D856D6DEBD6F615541A33963C8240E6231C7

I'm surprised the old building isn't protected. The one looks to have better connection with surroundings but the design and cladding isn't my taste.

This is what the building that developer wanted to tear down looks like:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/vreVol.jpg


And this is what they wanted to build, courtesy by Narud Stokke Wiig architects:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/vreVol2.jpg


I know what Galro will answer, but what do you others think about it?

This is what I would have done (the building to the right is supposed to represent the old building):

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8100/model1i.png

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7519/model2u.png

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/4954/modell3.png

That's a really nice render :)

That's a really nice render :)

If you are referring to my "render" above, then thanks. It only took me a few minutes in Sketchup. I also did a revised version with a slightly altered design.

:)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3246/model1y.png

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2736/model2.png

http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/4954/modell3.png

Would you look at that, not bad Galro :) I like the colours.

Nice Galro. Inspired by Korsgata 5? :-)

You should send the render to developers. One never knows. Obviously they would have to do something with regards to sqm in order to make the project profitable enough.

How about making it 12 floors instead? :)

Yeah, another Thon paradise is poping up in Calmeyers gate 8:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Calmeyersgate.png

The building is now it's full height.
http://bildr.no/thumb/1098080.jpeg (http://bildr.no/view/1098080)
http://bildr.no/view/1098080

Two articles from morgenbladet:

Mer makt til plan og bygningsetaten (http://morgenbladet.no/ideer/2012/mer_makt_til_plan_og_bygningsetaten)

Lengselen etter Christian IV (http://morgenbladet.no/ideer/2012/lengselen_etter_christian_iv)

The building is now it's full height.
http://bildr.no/thumb/1098080.jpeg (http://bildr.no/view/1098080)
http://bildr.no/view/1098080

today...

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/greatcentral/019-3.jpg

Maybe this can be useful for somebody: a free seminar about the future of Hauskvartalet on Friday 10 Feb 09:30-15:00, at Kulturhuset Hausmania, Hausmannsgate 34. Free breakfast and lunch.

Program: http://www.hausmania.org/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=231&Itemid=1
Facebook event: http://www.facebook.com/events/284404551619447/

OBOS is planing this apartment project at Lambertseter.
http://www.diiz.no/images/stills/Langbolgen_aerial_s.jpg

http://www.diiz.no/images/stills/Langbolgen_street_s.jpg
Render source: http://www.diiz.no/index.php/work/obos-langblgen/

The location, how it currently look: http://kart.finn.no/?lng=10.81349&lat=59.86765&zoom=18&mapType=finnraster&markers=10.81065,59.87338,r,LANGB%C3%98LGEN+7&streetview=true&svx=265656.85108945&svy=6644079.5365176&sa=278.49013325439546&sp=-4.7971403883821075&streetViewState=1

I think it looks okay. Better than most OBOS commies. I wish they added some colors though.

OBOS planning a suburban project that actually looks good?? No this won't happen... OBOS will cheap it down. Just look at Oppsal senter. That's how OBOS builds in suburbia.

Btw, no case files yet.

OBOS is planing this apartment project at Lambertseter.


I think it looks okay. Better than most OBOS commies. I wish they added some colors though.

This is a better view (http://kart.finn.no/?lng=10.81238&lat=59.86773&zoom=18&mapType=finnraster&markers=10.81065,59.87338,r,LANGB%C3%98LGEN+7&streetview=true&svx=265595.88631838&svy=6644094.1170726&sa=111.79190904314643&sp=2.0948007806467443&streetViewState=1)of the current building. It's from the same angle as the render.

I think that is quite good.

This place is really sad today, so this will be very refreshing. And kiwi will still be there I see.

Open meeting Tuesday Feb 14 at DogA, about Kommuneplan 2013 and Gjersrud/Stensrud

More info from PBE (http://www.plan-og-bygningsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/article219893-7991.html)

The page has some aerial renders of Gjersrud/Stensrud that might be new.

Yes, though one doesn't have to go there at the 14th. The exhibition will be there for the whole week. Everyone remotely interested in city development should go there one day. The municipal plan is essential for how the city developes, and which neighborhoods is the next to get urbanized.

Btw, I certainly wouldn't mind if Gjersrud/Stensrud ended up like this: :cheers:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Gjersrud.jpg

^^That would really be something..

Omg, that looks fantastic. Is it a real proposal or just a vision made by Cobe? I think it is sad to see a more urban proposal here than at Hasle though!

The area regulation is investigated in three different alternatives with different levels of density. 4.500 residents, 6.500 residents, and 9.000 residents. This is a proposal for the densest alternative. It's up to the politicians to choose a candidate, but it is very much likely that it will be the basis for the development (for the area regulation).

It's practicly a new Torshov, but with metro:)

Bet they choose the 6500 alternative. Not the least dense, consider environment and growth issue, but not too dense either, so the people moving there still can live in a "urban garden"...

It's practicly a new Torshov, but with metro:)

One might hope... My guess is a new Romsås (to get the required amount of apartments), surrounded by row houses (to get the required mix of housing). So, something like Ammerud perhaps. Anything else than that will be a bonus.

And I don't want to be too negative, but this is clearly a candidate for top 10 of "most optimistic renders". I really find it annoying when it's just too many happy smiling residents around in renders, when you know the reality will be quite different. So in this case, hundreds of people ice-skating, while the central mall is packed with people, in a SUBURB? Looks more busy than downtown May 17th. Must be some serious festival going on... Looking forward to THAT at least :)

Spikerverket:

http://www.avantor.no/img/buildcam.jpg?4096_2012-02-10

Future Oslo? (http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/Fremtidens-Oslo-6759255.html#.TzZpkciPqCg) Some funny stuff in this article :)


DRAMMEN
http://ap.mnocdn.no/incoming/article6759370.ece/ALTERNATES/w780c43/FS00015009.jpg?updated=100220120906


Stonehenge

http://ap.mnocdn.no/incoming/article6759467.ece/ALTERNATES/w780c169/FS00015036.jpg?updated=100220121014

Definitely an interesting topic.

I'm just scared to death that we'll see the 50s and 60s all over again. On the other side, we're lucky to experience growth in a time where views on urbanity is changing and more people are willing to live in urban environments. Also, the planning authorities need to listen to younger generations and not only those who have money today, but is living by yesterday's paradigm.

Also, why do all these grand schemes make things more difficicult than they are? The highrise circle is laughable and gives strong associations to the horror masterplans of the 50s.

There are plenty of room for functional and good-looking highrise-clusters within city borders.

As for the developments outside the inner-city, it's really easy. Lay down a street grid, keep the facades towards the street. Keep gardens in the backyard and make room for shops and cafes in the first floor wherever it's sustainable. Some areas have to be less dense for them to be "eatable" for the typical norwegian loner-family who is scared to death by innsyn and living in proximity to other human beings.

We really have loads of space, in Groruddalen, Lørenskog, Lillestrøm, Mortensrud, Asker aso, which means that the planning authorities have to make strict rules. If Arcasa doesn't understand new urbanism principles, then screw them, and no soup for you!

Also, we have enough space to regulate some areas for Villas. But these can't be large, and we can't accept any kind of cheap-ass looking houses. If you want to have a house and a garden in Oslo, you'll need to pay for it.

I very much prefer Villa-areas to drabantblokker, as long as they don't replace or get in the way for urbanity along subcenters and knutepunkt. We can't be fundamental about how people should live. We need children families as well.

To be honest I think we could just copy the streetgrid and built environment of Frogner/Gimle areas of the city whenever we build new districts outside of the traditional inner city, and just the replace the buildings with modern architecture. You will then also get a mix of villas and city blocks.

The highrise circle is indeed silly. The suburbs should be densified along existing roads, making them huge city quarters, with almost not any lost greenery, still more urban and better social qualities. Old industry areas/Groruddalen should be developed with dense city blocks. New developed areas outside the 400 meter, metro radius, should imo be developed more like Vålerenga/english rowhouse areas; two floors towards the street and private divided gardens.

I very much agree. From street level one would never grasp the idee. Only a bunch of odd placed highrises. Sad to see 60's idees on such a scale.

Some peeking around in the comment section on one of the Aftenposten articles revealed this website: http://www.oslovokser.no (http://www.oslovokser.no/)

Some interesting proposals here. E.g.

http://www.oslovokser.no/data/images/16.jpg

http://www.oslovokser.no/data/images/03.jpg

Seems like they just want to build suburbs (oslovokser.no). I wouldn't mind seeing something get built on our islands, but it shouldn't be more suburbs.

The last picture has got a point though, the forests around Romsås has never been used for anything bar the area around the lake, why not build houses there?

^^ I was mainly talking about their other proposals. It's one thing building suburban style housing as far out as Romsås, but I have harder time accepting the same type of suburban building style at Sjursøya and Hovedøye like in their suggestions. That's not the way Oslo should be developed imho even if I don't have anything against building at those places per se.