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NorthStar77 August 18th, 2004, 11:34 PM http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8710/oslo1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg
Projects in Oslo and suburbia cities such as Bærum, Asker, Lørenskog, Lillestrøm and Gardermoen. You can find a completion of the projects in Oslo
in this thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1391138).
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg
Updated by Þróndeimr.
designwise August 18th, 2004, 11:43 PM LOOKING AWESOME !!!!! I love the idea of having smart houses !!!
NorthStar77 August 19th, 2004, 12:03 AM Previous first post:
About time to get this thread up and running. As the authorities are rather strict when it comes to tall buildings at the moment,
this thread will be devoted to urban developements, of any kind. New buildings, transportation projects etc. I don't have
the complete overview of what is happening is this city, so any contributions will be highly apretiated (hint, hint Christian;) ).
I think developements in Fjordcity will remain in its separate thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=102067) for now. Maybe I'll merge them one day I am extremely bored.
First out is Waldemars Hage.
Waldemars hage, between Alexander Kiellands square and Grünerløkka, will consist of 500 apartments. The buildings
will be on 6-8 floors, with 12 towers with additional 4-5 floors. That means there will be 12 towers with 12 floors.
The two first towers has been erected already, finished last week (planning to walk by there to take some pictures soon).
The first people will move in there in january next year. Architects are Dark Arkitekter A/S, and total estimated costs
is 750 million NOK (~90 million EUR).
http://www.placebo-fx.com/images/projects/40010440-Armada_Eiendom_Waldemars/match_wh-aamodt_1kweb.jpg
http://www.bygg.no/Proff/Media/406_1.JPG
http://www.dinside.no/km_bilde/7/117817.jpg
http://www.dark.no/filestore/waldemar_natt.jpg
Aftenposten took this image today of the developement, in an article where the city conservationist calls it "Waldemar's horror", as expected :lol:
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00215/_1047157_jpg_215562h.jpg
The entire project will be very hightech with "smarthouses", and there will be made gardens on the roofs.
http://www.dinside.no/km_bilde/3/117823.jpg
http://www.dinside.no/km_bilde/7/117827.jpg
A list of today's shopping
http://www.dinside.no/km_bilde/2/117832.jpg
http://www.dinside.no/km_bilde/1/117831.jpg
Some images of what the interior will be like:
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00111/null_111539a.jpg
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00111/null_111540a.jpg
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00111/null_111538a.jpg
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Okay, while I am at it, let me continue on a project that is also mentioned in the article in Aftenposten. Critisized by
the cityconservationist of beeing "neo-brutalism"(Just like sOme of us like it:D ).
Jess Carlsenkvartalet
Another apartment-project, involving the entire quartal. A total of 205 apartments is beeing built here,
between Grünerløkka and city centre. Construction started this winter, and first parts of the quartal should be
finished by now. The entire project will be finished next summer. I showed you some early photos of it this spring,
as some may remember. The tallest building will be 11 floors.
http://www.fredensborg-jesscarlsen.no/images/fugleperspektiv.jpg
http://www.obos.no/img_gallery/imgroot/Nye_Hjem/Bilder/Prosjekter/jess_carlsen/Forsidebilde.jpg
Location:
http://www.fredensborg-jesscarlsen.no/images/kart.jpg
The view:
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/279434.jpg
This is how it looks now, as Aftenposten photograped it
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00215/_1047161_jpg_215563h.jpg
NorthStar77 August 20th, 2004, 03:40 PM Oslo bus company tries out busses on gas
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2004/08/20/sp57681e.jpg
AS Sporveisbussene, the city-bus company, are starting to try out busses that run on comprimated natural gas(CNG) these days. The probation-period will last for 2 months. They want to replace 300 of their diesel-run busses. A CNG bus emmits only 20% NOx of a diesel-bus, and the noise-level, both external and internal will be considerably reduced. 38 of these buses are already operating with success in Bergen, and they are in use in both Gothenburg and Malmø aswell. Stockholm have also started a test-project.
For the time beeing, these buses are not economically viable and needs some some govermental support, but hope is that more research will make it cheaper.
*I have plans to inform you of several more apartment- and transportation projects, but for the time beeing, my time is limited*
Þróndeimr August 20th, 2004, 04:50 PM Hehe, okey i will contribute with some information right now...: :)
Keysers gate 13/Borgarting lagmannsrett
Keysers gate 13 - Oslo
Floors: 11
Construction Start: 2003
Construction Finnish: 1 april 2005
Reconstruction: -
Function: Office
Area: 7 800sqm
Architect: Solheim & Jacobsen Dark Arkitekter
Contractor: NCC Construction AS
Developer: Entra Eiendom
Cost: 123 000 000 NOK
As far as i know this building is to be under construction, but i've not seen only one construction pics yeat...(hint, hint Northstar;))
http://www.dark.no/filestore/Borgarting_01.jpg
http://www.dark.no/filestore/Borgarting_03.jpg
http://www.dark.no/filestore/Borgarting_04.jpg
http://www.dark.no/filestore/Borgarting_06.jpg
http://www.dark.no/filestore/K13_byggegrop.jpg
Only construction pic i've seen so far.
http://home.online.no/~runness/ch/images/Oslo/Keysers%20Gate%2013.jpg
NorthStar77 August 20th, 2004, 05:11 PM Thanks Christian :)
Hint recieved ;)
Þróndeimr August 20th, 2004, 06:00 PM Bøler Senter
Bølerlia 2-4 - Oslo
Floors: 11
Construction Start: -
Construction Finnish: spring 2005
Reconstruction: -
Function: Shopping/Residential
Apartments: 119
Elevators: 2
Architect: Arch Uno AS
Contractor: Bundebygg AS
Developer: Munstad Eiendom AS
Status: Under Construction
http://www.bygg.no/Proff/Media/223_1.jpg
Þróndeimr August 20th, 2004, 08:44 PM Ringnes Park
Thorvald Meyers gate / Biermanns gate - Grünerløkka - Oslo
This is a larger project site which is being developed at this moment. The complex contents mostly apartments in buildings mostly 6, 8, 10 and 11 floors. The complex will also content retail area, with a cinema with 6 halls and other retail and cultural attractions. The project has been approved and a office buildings and a couple of residential buildings has started construction. The first apartments will be completed 2005/2006, but the office building is expected to be completed 1 february 2005. When the whole complex is completed it will content around 770 apartments.
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4446178_1_0_ringnes_park_2.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4446178_5_0_fugleperskektiv2.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4446178_2_0_fase_1_ringnes_vest2.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4446178_3_0_fase_1_lamell.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4446178_7_0_cam15_co.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4446178_8_0_parken.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4446178_6_0_bydelssenter.jpg
I hope i don't post anything you was supose to post Northstar?
Oberleutnant August 21st, 2004, 02:09 AM Oh, wow. I know that box haters may not like these projects, but I like them. They're very Nordic. I especially like the Keysers gate 13.
Arvid, how much money do you need from me so that you would take loads of pictures of your nice Radisson Plaza? :)
Renx August 21st, 2004, 02:39 AM Wow!:eek: Nice projects you have there:)
Is it just me, or does the Keysers gate 13/Borgarting lagmannsrett tower looks at least a bit like Itämerentori? Style seems to be similar.
I like the Ringnes Park project the most. I'm not really a fan of this type of buildings, but if they're in one place together, then it looks good. It'll probably be a very comfy place to live.:)
sdes August 21st, 2004, 12:36 PM Nice thread!
That looks very cool: :yes:
http://www.dark.no/filestore/Borgarting_06.jpg
wolkenkrabber August 21st, 2004, 04:04 PM the smarthouses seems cool, i like that some of the plans will be like traditional housing whne the houses goes all the way around the block or alteast to the bigest part of it, i don't like houses standing one by one in a row i like when they gio around a block more,
Þróndeimr August 22nd, 2004, 01:12 AM Sjølyststranda
Sjølyst/Skøyen - Oslo
Sjølyststranda project is a larger residential, retail and office area under development. The project contents 6 residential towers counting 7 - 10 floors and 3 large retail and office buildings counting 7 - 12 floors. At this hour three of the residential buildings is under construction, two is to be completed in december this year. The construction of the last 3 residential buildings will start next year. The construction of the retail and office buildings is not decidet yeat, and includes a 12 storey office building and a large retail building. When the project is completed it will content 470 apartments.
Project overview:
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/283055.jpg
Project images:
http://www.obos.no/img_gallery/imgroot/Nye_Hjem/Bilder/Prosjekter/sjolyst/_sjolyst1_large.jpg
This images includes the old proposed 20 floor tall office building which was rejected by the city concil. The tower is today proposed with 12 floors.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Oslo%20city%20archive/SjostrandaHoyhus1.jpg
http://www.4b-arkitekter.no/aktuelt/sjolyst1.jpg
http://www.exact.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=152456&ext=.jpg
Few images so far, most image from this project is really smal or bad.
Þróndeimr August 22nd, 2004, 01:27 AM Grefsen Stasjonsby
Grefsen - Oslo
Status: Approved
Construction: 2006 - (2010)
Homepage: http://www.stasjonsbyen.no/
Architect: Hille Melbye Arkitekter AS
85 000sqm with 900 apartments and some office is about to start construction. Grefsen Stasjonsby was first approved in 2001, and construction start is expected to take place in the first months of 2006. The first apartments will be out for salesment in january 2006.
The project, one of Oslo's largest nowdays contains three 12 story high-rise buildings pluss a unknown number of lower buildings below 10 floors.
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3007/grefsenstasjonsby1small6ko.jpg (http://www.hille-melbye.no/prosjekter/regulering/grefsen/grefsen_06_full.jpg)
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1103/grefsenstasjonsby2small1cx.jpg (http://www.hille-melbye.no/prosjekter/regulering/grefsen/grefsen_05_full.jpg)
Þróndeimr August 22nd, 2004, 01:35 AM Breivoll stasjonsområde
Breivoll - Oslo
168 000 sqm residential, office and retail area development area in Oslo. This project is under development and is still a proposal. More i don't know concerning this project, but perhaps you do Northstar?
http://www.hille-melbye.no/prosjekter/regulering/breivoll/breivoll_01_full.jpg
Þróndeimr August 22nd, 2004, 01:40 AM Unknown project
Alnabru - Oslo
There is also a development project under development at Alnabru in Oslo. This project will content 72 000 sqm office buildings, also with a high-rise building which is supose to be around 15 floors.
http://www.tb-gruppen.no/images/eiendom_1s.jpg
http://www.tb-gruppen.no/images/eiendom_2s.jpg
NorthStar77 August 22nd, 2004, 01:45 PM Wow, Christian nice work!! You bring up many interesting projects :okay: :) I have not seen the plans for Alna before, but that area certainly need some brushing up. Alna is a car based area, with lots of large shoppingcentres, IKEA etc, and is becoming a more and more important area, but it looks rather sad. The Alna river (probably the one seen in the renderings) is planned to become nice park.
Just a minor correction; it's Bøler senter, not Bølern:) My mothers uncle and aunt will move in there, hehe.
Additional info: Ringes Park is located just a few hundred meters from Waldemars Hage, on the other side of Akers river.
We'll talk more later:)
Þróndeimr August 22nd, 2004, 01:55 PM Just a minor correction; it's Bøler senter, not Bølern:) My mothers uncle and aunt will move in there, hehe.
Oh, thats why i can't find anything when im searching after Bølern Senter i guess. :)
Þróndeimr August 22nd, 2004, 02:46 PM Solsiden
Nydalen - Oslo
Solsiden residential complex exist of 7 buildings with 440 apartments. This buildings counts 8 - 9 floors. The first apartments in this project is to start construction in february 2005. This first buildings will be competed early 2006.
Satus: Approved
Videos: http://www.avantor.no/index.php?id=160
(a 19MB video of the whole Nydalen project area, nothing concerning Solsiden, but the areas around. Video last for about 6 and a half min.)
Images:
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4502434_5_0_oversiktsbilde_30_cm_72_dpi_med_navn.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4502434_6_0_solsiden_oversiktsbilde_fra_nord_30cm_72dpi.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4502434_3_0_solsiden-05_forfra_m_elv_30_cm_72_dpi.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4502434_1_0_perspektiv_s_r-vest_180604_30_cm_72_dpi.jpg
The Akerselva river also pass this area.
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4502434_4_0_utsikt_nordre-tun_30_cm_72_dpi.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4502434_solsiden_copy.jpg
Whole Nydalen project area.
Gatis August 22nd, 2004, 07:49 PM Wow!!!! Just noticed this thread!!! (I think that our forum with these threads will make competition to some immobilities information companies ;)
Besides regret for lack of highrises (but you, guys, may be expected this and are ready to hit anyone repeating this)... I like this architecture. It is minimalistic, asketic and tasty. My favourite:
http://www.dark.no/filestore/Borgarting_03.jpg
Regarding the gas - gas-run cars and buses were popular here in 1990ies. I knew some people who had their cars on gas. Have been driving one Honda Accord (made in 1980ies), running on gas. All the time there was a little smell in the car, which warned me - better do not light a match near this car... although no accidents with fire have been reported. Today it is not popular anymore here, I do not know why. Biofuel - that's the new trend here!
Þróndeimr August 22nd, 2004, 08:37 PM Besides regret for lack of highrises (but you, guys, may be expected this and are ready to hit anyone repeating this)...
Sadly, most of the projects in Oslo, and whereever else in Norway is projects with buildings under 12 floors, the buildings over 12 floors is usally quite secret, and there is impassible to find any information or images from them. I will try to post as many project as passible with buildings over 12 floors, but most larger interesting projects in Oslo contents buildings under 12 floors.
NorthStar77 August 23rd, 2004, 09:27 AM i like that some of the plans will be like traditional housing whne the houses goes all the way around the block or alteast to the bigest part of it, i don't like houses standing one by one in a row i like when they gio around a block more,
I completely agree! And there must be a nice backyard, ofcourse:)
About Sjølyststranda: sad that the NIMBYS managed to reduce that tower from 25 (or 20?) floors to 12. I remember my first exitement when I read about this project some years ago. BTW. my train to work go by the construction site everyday...I may have to hop off there one day;)
About Breivoll: I have never seen Breivoll project, and didn't even know where Breivoll was until I searched it up now.
About Solsiden: Wow, awesome. This project lies in Nydalen, right next to the gargantual new Nydalen BI (school of economics). In Nydalen, so much is happening/has happened the last couple of years, that it probably deserves a separate thread! About every building seen on that map(http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4502434_solsiden_copy.jpg) is eighter renovated or recently built, and there is probably more to come. Nydalen has become the IT-powerhouse of Oslo (and hence also Norway) :)
NorthStar77 August 23rd, 2004, 12:24 PM Sadly, most of the projects in Oslo, and whereever else in Norway is projects with buildings under 12 floors, the buildings over 12 floors is usally quite secret, and there is impassible to find any information or images from them. I will try to post as many project as passible with buildings over 12 floors, but most larger interesting projects in Oslo contents buildings under 12 floors.
Yeah, I have a feeling that despite city council setting an upper limit on 12 floors, that some projects will go ahead in silence with more than 12 floors. In the case of Bjørvika, the city council managed to set no upper limit whatsoever in their final decition, without it making any fuzz at all....lets just hope it remains this way :D
Swede August 23rd, 2004, 02:02 PM Whao! Didn't check this thread out til now. Oslo really has alot of quality shit goin' up. I like the style and the fact that they're basically infill projects.
Oslo bus company tries out busses on gas. Stockholm have also started a test-project.
Well, the new 2 line (one of 4 "stamlinjer" in the Inner City) is only those busses, so it's more than just testing. btw - we've got the exact same make of those busses (ours are all blue tho).
NorthStar77 August 23rd, 2004, 02:19 PM Whao! Didn't check this thread out til now. Oslo really has alot of quality shit goin' up. I like the style and the fact that they're basically infill projects.
Yeah, basically, most new residential projects are innfills. That's because most projects are very centrally located, within say 4km from the central station. The entrapeneurs don't want to erect anything that is too far away from the city centre, because of relatively bad prices there and high construction costs.
While infills certainly are a good thing, I think sometimes that it's getting too much. Many of these projects are on former playgrounds and parks, because there are no other places to build so central. Sooner or later the politicians in this city will wake up and realize that all the playgrounds are gone and the only way is up!
Originally Posted by dagbladet
;)
Gatis August 23rd, 2004, 03:52 PM "While infills certainly are a good thing, I think sometimes that it's getting too much. Many of these projects are on former playgrounds and parks, because there are no other places to build so central. Sooner or later the politicians in this city will wake up and realize that all the playgrounds are gone and the only way is up!"
It was interesting to read this... Riga and Oslo are in very different stages of development level but we have exactly the same discussion and several protest actions. In some cases people managed to stop the building in their courtyards, but in most - not.
Regarding the height limits set by city council - anywhere in the world they seem to be "forgotten" from time to time.
NorthStar77 August 23rd, 2004, 04:05 PM Statistics Norway, 23 aug. 2004.
3 163 dwelling starts are registered in Oslo during the first half of 2004. This is more than three times as many as during the first six months of 2003.
13 843 dwellings are registered started in Norway during the first six months of 2004 - an increase of 29.9 per cent compared with the same period last year.
In June 2004, 3 537 dwellings were started, 1 400 of these in Oslo.
During the first six months of 2004 almost 1.8 billion square metres of utility floor space were started for other purposes than dwellings. Compared with the same period last year this is a decrease of 19.5 per cent.
The total square metres of utility floor space starts rose by 18.3 per cent in the first half of 2004 compared with the same period last year.
http://www.ssb.no/english/subjects/10/09/byggeareal_en/fig-2004-08-23-01-en.gif
http://www.ssb.no/english/subjects/10/09/byggeareal_en/fig-2004-08-23-02-en.gif
Edit: those graphs show the statistics for all of Norway.
Þróndeimr August 23rd, 2004, 07:28 PM Akerselva Atrium
Husmannsgate/Christian Kroghs gate - Oslo
This is a 12 storey office building proposed for downtown Oslo, not far from Radisson SAS Plaza Hotel and Posthuset. The architects are NBBJ Architects og Pran Architects, and the developer is NCC Construction. The construction is suposed to start early 2006 if the city concil approves the tower.
http://home.online.no/~runness/ch/images/Oslo/Akerselva%20Atrium.jpg
Þróndeimr August 23rd, 2004, 08:56 PM Helsfyr Atrium
Helsfyr - Oslo
Helsfyr Atrium is a 14 floor tall proposal. The 38 000sqm office tower has been approved once as far as i know, and was supose to start construction in 2002. I can't find any news from 2003/2004/2005 from the project, so i have no idea whats the status on the project.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/HelsfyrAtrium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/HelsfyrAtrium3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/HelsfurAtrium6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/HelsfyrAtrium7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/HelsfyrAtrium4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/HelsfyrAtrium5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/HelsfyrAtrium2.jpg
Þróndeimr August 23rd, 2004, 09:22 PM Elvebredden
Sagene-Torshov - Oslo
Elvebredden is yeat another low residential project (i just had to post it!). The residential project contents 6 buildings with 289 apartments. The towers counts 7-9 floors. The construction has started and the first buildings is expected to be completed in 2006.
http://www.4b-arkitekter.no/aktuelt/elvebr-persp.jpg
http://www.exact.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=152213&ext=.jpg
http://www.exact.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=152219&ext=.jpg
http://www.bygg.no/Proff/Media/122_1.jpg
Þróndeimr August 23rd, 2004, 10:03 PM Northstar, im hoping im not stealing your thread right now, im posting what you was supose to post maybe?
NorthStar77 August 23rd, 2004, 10:25 PM You do a great job on this thread Christian. I had many of these projects on my plan, but I'm grateful that you have taken time to present them instead! Keep up the good work :okay: Really, because I have limited time on my hand :)
About Elvebredden; nice project, not because of the architecture, but because of the location along the Aker river. It's located on the same side of the river as Rignes Park, only a few hundred meters longer up. :)
Þróndeimr August 23rd, 2004, 10:43 PM You do a great job on this thread Christian. I had many of these projects on my plan, but I'm grateful that you have taken time to present them instead! Keep up the good work :okay: Really, because I have limited time on my hand :)
Damn me:wallbash:, I was way to fast to post these projects, i hope i didn't destroy your thread completly! If you have any projects left i would say its your turn now, i don't feel well if i ruined your thread!! :)
NorthStar77 August 23rd, 2004, 11:07 PM Pilestredet Park
Oslo city centre
This very centrally located apartment project has been under construction/rebuilding for a while, and will be finished in 1'st quartal of 2006. Total amounts of apartments on this former national hospital site will be 650, 500 of wich is sold already. I'm not sure of the floorcount here, but I count up to 13. The apartments are made so that energy consumption will be low, and controlled. There will be parks on the roofs accessible to all the residents.
http://www.arkitektur.no/images/0014-t1.jpg
http://www.arkitektur.no/images/0014-t2.jpg
http://www.hille-melbye.no/prosjekter/bolig/pilestredet/pilestredet_03_full.jpg
http://www.arkitektur.no/images/0014-2.jpg
http://www.skanska-bolig.no/images/arkiv/serier/903.JPG
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/208787.jpg
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/208791.jpg
http://www.obos.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=282963&ext=.jpg&height=0&width=170&resize=true/
This map shows how central the project is..no wonder the apartments are expencive as h***, and easy to sell..
http://www.pilestredetpark.no/Assets/images/355.gif
The view
http://www.skanska-bolig.no/images/arkiv/serier/932.JPG
NorthStar77 August 23rd, 2004, 11:09 PM Damn me:wallbash:, I was way to fast to post these projects, i hope i didn't destroy your thread completly! If you have any projects left i would say its your turn now, i don't feel well if i ruined your thread!! :)
Nono, Christian, you misunderstood! I have been positively surprised by your posts!! Really, I apretiate all the help I can get, and you do a great job! :)
Þróndeimr August 23rd, 2004, 11:47 PM Nono, Christian, you misunderstood! I have been positively surprised by your posts!! Really, I apretiate all the help I can get, and you do a great job! :)
Ok, still im blaming my self!!, i will try to go more carefully ahead next time. :)
Pilestredet Park is a great project, its really nice to see old industrial and hospital buildings change into a modern residential complex. Many of the buildings in the complex are quite well, though i could see Rikstrygdeverkets Hovedkvarter's building even nicer.
http://home.online.no/~runness/ch/images/Oslo/Rikstrygdeverket.jpg
Rikstrygdeverkets, looks quite modern and nice here, but the facade to the building didn't became my favorite.
NorthStar77 August 23rd, 2004, 11:58 PM Marienlyst Park
Majorstua - oslo inner west
255 apartments in 5 buildings on up to 8 floors, located at Marienlyst, next to NRK (the national TV broadcaster), close to popular Majorstua. Construction started may 2002, first residents moved in november last year. The entire project will be finished november this year.
The most important condition that the architects (Lund Hagem Arkitekter AS) had to follow, was that the area would maintain the characteristics of the 30'ies architecture of the area, but adapted to our times.
The layout of the blocks look very much like those in the area built in the 30'ies.
http://www.peab.no/FS_peabNo/PublicImages/Tjenster_produkter/Marienlyst%20Park29b(0).jpg
http://www.byggenytt.no/startside/tidlig_byggen/04/06_04/bilder/marienlyst.jpg
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00200/marienlyst2_1019176_200524h.jpg
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00200/marienlyst1_1019175_200523h.jpg
http://www.marienlystpark.no/Bilder/Perspektiv.jpg
http://www.peab.no/FS_peabNo/PublicImages/Tjenster_produkter/Marienlyst_Park_170204-5b.jpg
http://www.peab.no/FS_peabNo/PublicImages/Tjenster_produkter/Marienlyst_Park_170204-15c.jpg
http://www.exact.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=151036&ext=.jpg
The location
http://www.marienlystpark.no/Bilder/Kart.jpg
It may look rather dull, but it was one of nine nominees for the goverment's architecture-award of 2004. 80 project was in the competition.
Þróndeimr August 24th, 2004, 10:18 AM When i first saw Marenlyst Park rederings i trought it would become quite nice project. But im not sure i like the finall result or the result so far, it became quite boring, and i don't like the contrasts between the dark windows and glass and the white walls.
NorthStar77 August 24th, 2004, 10:44 AM I wasn't too fond of those images eigther. Maybe it is just the images beeing dark. Lets hope it gets better when finished, with trees in installed and all.
NorthStar77 August 24th, 2004, 09:23 PM A few smaller projects:
Grüner garden - Inside Oslo
Günerløkka - inner east
A former officebuilding along the Aker river is beeing rebuilt into 107 apartments these days. The apartments are very small, designed to attract young people between 18 and 35, and focus alot on beeing very urban. Unfortunately, it's very hard to find any pictures of the building, but it's on 8 floors, and built somewhere in the late 30'ies I guess in red bricks. It was the municipal building of Aker municipal until it was merged with Oslo in 1948.
This is was the only one I found..
http://www.birkelunden.no/images/saker/trhvn5.jpg
The only drawing I found
http://www.mn-arkitektur.no/admin/_LIB/c_600x270_10_26.jpg
People standing in line to see the apartments, at night
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00191/137860a052_F04hoved_191361h.jpg
They advertise with this very fine view :D
http://www.insideoslo.no/portal/grafikk/slik.jpg
Baglerbyen
Oldtown- inner east
Yet another centrally located project consisting of 290 apartments. The apartments are relatively cheap, so the first part of the project, 65 apartments, was sold out immediately. The project is designed to fit into the existing wooden houses in the area, hence very low for the most part.
http://www.prospekt.net/baxcom_apps/2020applications/uploads/Konowagate340x369_Ny.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4616166_1_0_baglerbyen3.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4256065_1_0_fasade.jpg
Sogn terrasse
Western Oslo
167 apartments is beeing built here, right next to the preserved forest Nordmarka. 6 buildings on 7 and 8 floors. Construction started spring 2003 and will finish late next year. IMO, this project look a tad boring, looks so 1992.
http://www.obos.no/img_gallery/imgroot/Nye_Hjem/Bilder/Prosjekter/Sogn%20Terrasse/sogn_terrasse_stort%20kopi.gif
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4537473_5_0_winnes_terrasse_til_nett.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4537370_2_0_nytt_perspektiv_til_nett.jpg
http://www.mons-roenning.no/sogn/images/plantegninger_01.gif
http://www.mons-roenning.no/sogn/images/plantegninger_05.gif
http://www.mons-roenning.no/sogn/images/plantegninger_26.gif
Surroundings
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4447222_6_0_bilde_fra_sognsvann_til_nett.jpg
More to come...
NorthStar77 August 25th, 2004, 12:33 AM More smaller projects, this may bore some, hehe.
Øvre Vålerenga
Vålerenga - inner east
185 apartments in 4 buildings on 6 floors. Construction started 4Q of 2002, and will be finished by next month. This project sparked alot of controversy because it's partly built over an old railroad-track of some importance. As a result, the plans became less compact than original planned, and the number of apartments reduced from 300.
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/279252.jpg
http://www.obos.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=278478
A few of my images from this spring:
http://www.pbase.com/image/26532238/medium.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/26532257/medium.jpg
The only "virgin" area within the city borders that is allowed for new construction, is a small piece of land south in Oslo. Here follows a few projects from that area. Nothing special about these projects, but I want to present them anyways:)
Freidigkollen
Mortensrud - Southern Oslo
55 apartments in 3 buildings. Planned to be finished summer 2005.
http://www.obos.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=185497&ext=.jpg&height=0&width=170&resize=true
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/3785238_6_0_freidigkollen_fasade_ve.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/3785238_7_0_situasjonsplanblokk1-2-3.jpg
Høgåsen
Holmlia - Southern Oslo
66 apartments in 11 buildings are just finished.
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/279444.jpg
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/279450.jpg
http://www.obos.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=262330
View
http://www.obos.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=210386&ext=.jpg&height=0&width=170&resize=true
Krummedike
Holmlia - Southern Oslo
28 apartments in two buildings on 5 floors, recently finished. It get its name from Henrik Krummedike, a danish rich man living in the area from 1464 to 1530.
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/3692607_1_0_forside.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/3692607_3_0_fasade.jpg
http://www.obos.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=269228&ext=.jpg&height=0&width=170&resize=true
Munkerud
Nordstrand - Southern Oslo
27 apartments in 3 buildings, also recently finished.
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/3518760_17_0_hus_8_pr_230803-3.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/3518760_16_0_verandavisningsleilighet.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/3518760_1_0_tegn.jpg
More interesting projects will come later..;)
Þróndeimr August 25th, 2004, 12:54 AM Nice projects though they was really, really smal. :)
NorthStar77 August 25th, 2004, 12:58 AM Yes I was surfing OBOS's site and just felt to present them:)
Þróndeimr August 25th, 2004, 01:17 AM Yes I was surfing OBOS's site and just felt to present them:)
Yes, and that really nice too, perhaps members here see some other qind of architecture as well, not only the boxy terraced houses in some 7-9 floors which there is plenty of. :)
Devilution August 25th, 2004, 08:47 AM OMG those buildings look as if they were stolen from Espoo :) Except for that last pic, it´s a bit different and I kinda like it actually.
NorthStar77 August 26th, 2004, 07:39 PM Lørenbyen
Oslo east, 1 km southeast of Grefsen Stasjonsby, and 1 km northeast of me.
This is a pretty large project, involving 1500 apartments, shops, hairdresser, restaurants, cafe's, new streets, a park, kindergardens, school etc. In short, a new urban part of Oslo. The plot lies on a former millitary campus, and will combine new buildings with the historic ones. The tallest buildings will be up to 9 floors.
Location:
http://www.selvaag.no/images/download/kart%20Løren.jpg
Overview map:
http://www.selvaag.no/images/download/Forklaring%20copy%20justert%20KNOTT%20salgsside.jpg
http://www.nybydel.no/imagearchive/Løren_områdeplan2.jpg
http://www.nybydel.no/imagearchive/Løren_områdeplan1.jpg
http://www.nybydel.no/imagearchive/Løren_by_night.jpg
First part of Lørenbyen to be built is Lørenparken, with 200 apartments. Construction will start in 4Q this year, and will be finished by the end of next year. The entire "town" will be finished in 2013.
How parts of the first developements will look like:
http://www.selvaag.no/images/download/Fasader%20syd(2).jpg
http://www.nybydel.no/imagearchive/Løren_mot_nord_fra_parken.jpg
http://www.nybydel.no/imagearchive/Løren_mot_ost_parken.jpg
There is this really cool shockwave animation that allows you to navigate in 3D around in Løren. Check it out! http://www.nybydel.no/3d/3d.htm
Þróndeimr August 26th, 2004, 08:55 PM Lørenbyen is a quite interesting development site, at least it was really interesting. Some fo the proposals i first saw did content taller buildings included high-rise buildings. But this final approval looks to become really nice, tough i actually would agreed to built some few taller buildings at this site.
NorthStar77 August 26th, 2004, 08:58 PM Ensjøbyen
Oslo east - 1 km south of me
This area has been mentioned before here at SSC, but its a long time ago, and I think a description belongs here. Ensjø, a 20 minutes walk from the centralstation, is today a very unfriendly place with lots of car sellers. But the owners of the area have realized that a better use of the area is to make it packed with apartments. There are plans to build up to 7.000 apartments, housing up to 15.000 people. So far, there is no exact timeline for the developement, but architects suggest it will start within 2 years, and end within 10.
There has been a architect competition. It seems that nimbys here don't mind 12-20 floors, as long as it is built around the metrostation, and it's just one building on that height. I just read through some of the objections made by organized nimbys on the municipal website. (All documents concerning every plans in all of the city is availiable on pdf, so reading trough all of them could take a lifetime).
Some renderings of the proposals, for the area around the metrostation.
HRTB architects:
Tallest building will be 12 floors
http://www.malerhaugen.com/nyheter/nyheter2003/bilder2003/EBYmotEnsjoveien.jpg
http://www.malerhaugen.com/nyheter/nyheter2003/bilder2003/EBoversikt.jpg
Asplan architects:
Tallest will only be 7 floor
http://www.malerhaugen.com/nyheter/nyheter2003/bilder2003/asplanoversikt.jpg
Plan B architects:
Tallest on 20 floor, I have strong strong doubts if this proposal ever will go through.
http://www.malerhaugen.com/nyheter/nyheter2003/bilder2003/planBoversikt.jpg
http://www.malerhaugen.com/nyheter/nyheter2003/bilder2003/planBfraensjoveiensnitt.jpg
http://www.malerhaugen.com/nyheter/nyheter2003/bilder2003/planBfraensjoveien.jpg
http://www.malerhaugen.com/nyheter/nyheter2003/bilder2003/PlanBfrajordal.jpg
More on this project later.
NorthStar77 August 27th, 2004, 01:00 AM It turns out that some small parts of Ensjøbyen has acctually already been developed!
Malerhaugen
A small, ordinary project containing 37 apartments. Finished by the end of last year, so I don't know if it belongs here at all, but it shows that some developements has started already in the area.
http://www.usbl.no/malerhaugen/pix/USBL_Malerhaugen_ferdig1.jpg
Another area where plans will soon materialize is
Tiedemannsjordet
170 apartments, 3-6 floors, construction start next year.
http://www.ferd.no/ferd/image.do?id=838
http://www.ferd.no/ferd/image.do?id=848
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In another part of town:
Bergensgate 26
Bjølsen - Oslo north
Two projects on this adress, both finished recently. A total of 104 apartments on 6 floors
http://www.ferd.no/ferd/image.do?id=827
Lisa Kristoffersens Plass:
http://www.voldslokkapark.no/images/banner1stor.jpg
Voldsløkka park
http://www.voldslokkapark.no/images/stortbilde_prosjekt.jpg
NorthStar77 September 1st, 2004, 01:29 AM Double railroadtrack Skøyen-Asker
This is the biggest railroad-project in Norway at the moment. The railroad going westbound from Oslo is today the most trafficated in the nation. So trafficated that its capacity is full. The existing double track is packet most of the day, and just a minor delay causes massive congestion. I experience this often as I commute on part of this track every day.
The new tracks will serve as highspeed-tracks. This project have a total estimated cost of 800 million EUR, started in 2001 and is expected to be finished in 2012. This project contains alot of technical challenges, as the tracks will be built in highly populated and trafficated areas.
80% of the ~20 km new track will be in tunnel, as shown in dotted line.
http://www.jernbaneverket.no/multimedia/archive/01417/Kart_Sk_yen-Asker_1417793a.jpg
The area from Asker to Sandvika will be finished first, in 2005. In Sandvika, where I work, work on the new 4 track railroadbridge has recently finished. Infact, the station reopened just a few weeks ago, after final adaptations were made. It has been quite impressive to see the progress, while the train traffic has been going mostly undisturbed all along. I have seen directly down on the work beeing done from my office.
The bridge over Sanvika "downtown", some illustrations.
http://www.jernbaneverket.no/multimedia/archive/01316/Brueneny2_1316454a.jpg
http://www.aas-jakobsen.no/Infrastructure/sanvika_3d_liten.jpg
http://www.novapoint.com/NovaPosten/images/NP0201_03.jpg
From the early works on the new bridge, while the old brigde still was standing
http://www.aas-jakobsen.no/Infrastructure/fundamentering_stort.jpg
This spring:
http://www.jernbaneverket.no/multimedia/archive/01517/Sandvbruene2-360_1517477a.jpg
Between Asker and Sandvika, 3 tunnels are under construction, Tanumtunnellen on 2,7 kilometers, Skaugumtunnellen on 3,6 km, and Jongtunnellen on 0,8 km.
Some images from the tunneling(couldn't find any bigger :( ) :
http://www.jernbaneverket.no/multimedia/archive/01517/Tunnel160_1517501a.jpg
http://www.jernbaneverket.no/multimedia/archive/01517/Rodtunnel360_1517503a.jpg
Jongtunnel:
http://www.jernbaneverket.no/multimedia/archive/01417/Jong-strek_1417841a.jpg
http://www.jernbaneverket.no/multimedia/archive/01417/Byggegropa375b_1417840a.jpg
Asker station:
http://www.jernbaneverket.no/multimedia/archive/01517/Asker_stasjon351_1517998a.jpg
Works on Asker station:
http://www.baneservice.no/oslo/baneservice.nsf/bilder/670FCA553E8E7E81C1256DEC002B4463/$FILE/Askersporarb031115.jpg
Works on the track between Sandvika and Lysaker will probably not start until late 2006. 5,5 km of it will be in tunnel.
Works on a new Lysaker station will begin in 2005 and finish in 2008. Lysaker is a regional hub, with 20.000 jobs within a radius of 800 meters from the station, and offices for ~10.000 new jobs + 1.500 new apartments is under planning.
This rendering show the new station, and also some new office buildings in the area.
http://www.jernbaneverket.no/multimedia/archive/01417/Nye_Lysaker_stasjo_1417685a.jpg
The last part of the track remains unclear about wheter when construction will start, but it will not be soon, unfortunately....
Gatis September 1st, 2004, 01:45 PM 800 mio EUR.... mmm, that's something! Very impressive works!
NorthStar77 September 1st, 2004, 02:34 PM ...or a little above 6 billion norwegian kroner if you like. But take into consideration that this is over a timespan of more than a decade, and that construction-costs probably is a bit higher here than in Latvia;)
Gatis September 1st, 2004, 02:49 PM Price of Norvegian construction worker includes (daily):
- waking up in the morning - 1 000 NOK for any minute before 11.00 AM
- opening eyes - 2000 NOK;
- one leg out of bed - 2400 NOK
- another leg (this movement is a bit more complicated) - 2800 NOK
etc.etc.
Like this? Just kidding ;)
NorthStar77 September 1st, 2004, 02:58 PM :lol: A little exagerated, but there is some truth in it :okay: Contruction workers often get better paid than academic people. A few years back it was really bonanza with paychecks on like 400.000+ NOK a year + trips to London and other benfits...but I think it has become healthier now, especially after the enlarged EU(wich affects us because we are in Shengen)
LatvianGG September 1st, 2004, 03:24 PM Nice railway.... I hope I will use it once in the future when it's finished.
BTW, I heard everyone in Norway is moving to big cities, the villages are becoming ghost-villages. I even heard that the government invites foreigners to settle up there to avoid even bigger problems. True?
NorthStar77 September 1st, 2004, 03:47 PM BTW, I heard everyone in Norway is moving to big cities, the villages are becoming ghost-villages. I even heard that the government invites foreigners to settle up there to avoid even bigger problems. True?
It's true that people are moving to the big cities. Oslo area gets half of the total population growth at the moment. The rest of the growth is happening in the other biggest cities. Living outside one of the biggest cities is considered uncool.
Saying that villages are becoming ghost-towns is a little exhagerated, but some places the school, the local shop etc. closes. And some places manage to survive thanks to immigrants. I read recently about this consultant that got paid about 15.000 EUR by several communes for each dutch person he convinced to move to their commune. Several schools have been saved this way. Also, in northern Norway, where the depopulation is worst, some fishing communities survive by the help of immigrants from Sri Lanka(!), that are willing to work at the fisheries. Young norwegians simply don't want to work with fish anymore.
NorthStar77 September 2nd, 2004, 12:48 AM While we are at it...
Oslopakke 2
This is, as the name suggests, the second packet of different transportation projects in the Oslo-region(Oslo+Akershus). Those new railtracks I described above is part of the project. The project spans from 2002 to 2011, and the total costs will be 15,6 billion NOK(1,85 billion EUR). 1,8 billions of these comes from the toll-road, and 1,3 billions comes from ,75 krone of each public transport ticket.
http://www.oslopakke2.no/om/naa/kart.gif
The projects that have highest priority in the period 2002-2005:
Railroad:
* Skøyen-Asker: described before
* Oslo Centralstation - Ski: new double tracks - start the work on upgrading Ski station.
Metro:
* New metro-ring: first phase finished last year, with Storo and Nydalen station added. Second phase with the new station Sinsen will be completed in 2006. The works on the new tunnel caused a massive stone-slide in the existing tunnel on line 5 a few weeks ago. This has caused all traffic on that line to stop now, creating chaos around here. 35.000 people have to be shuttled by bus instead everyday...
*Kolsåsline: Upgrading to metro standard from Sørbyhaugen to Bekkestua, to increase punctuality, safety, speed and capacity.
*Grorudline and the maintunnel: measures to increase safety(fires occur almost on a weekly basis) and speed.
* Homansbyen station: Start work on this station that will be located on the mainline, between Nationaltheateret and Majorstua.
Other
*Different measures to make it possible for busses to drive faster.
*Smaller improvements on roads.
*Better public transport internally in Groruddalen
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Nydalen station, that opened last year. "Tunnel of light", a weird experience, light changes color constantly and weird sounds occur. I tried it once and felt like I was part of a Stanley Kubric film.
http://www.sporveien.no/archive/images/01/06/nydal035.jpg
There are also ordered 99 new metro-cars from Siemens, that are expected to arrive in 2006. These are the same that operate the metro in Vienna, to avoid much "baby-trouble".
http://www.sporveien.no/archive/images/01/06/MXutv062.jpg
http://www.sporveien.no/archive/images/01/06/MXint063.jpg
NorthStar77 September 3rd, 2004, 01:30 AM Some projects in Nydalen
Nydalen Campus
At that new metrostation I showed picture of in the last post, an entire "new town" is emerging. The goverment wanted the
abandoned airportsite Fornebu to become the powerhouse of norwegian IT-industry. As always when the goverment
is involved in something, progress is too slow. Therefore, Nydalen has emerged sorta naturally instead. The amounts
of construction-projects here the last couple of years, and coming years, is overwhelming.
Perhaps the biggest is Nydalen Campus, where the private economic college BI will move all their activities in the Oslo area.
Their ambitions is to become the best economy college in Europe. When finished next year, it will have a total area of
100.000 sqmeters on 6 floors (+ basement), and house 8-9000 students. Part of the building will be turned into
rental-offices. In the middle of the building, there will be a shopping street with 3.000 sqm of retail.
I was up there to take a look at it a few months ago....wow, this building is so huge!
As you can see, it will be located right behind Solsiden apartments that Christian wrote about before.
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/606.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/688.jpg
Main-entrance
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/689.jpg
Progress as of today
http://www.avantor.no/webcam/1742.jpg
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Nydalshøyden
The area seen to the right in the first picture above, is also under developement. 3 office-buildings on
50.000 sqmeters in total, will be finished early next year.
http://www.avantor.no/ndh/art_img/11.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/ndh/art_img/12.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/ndh/art_img/10.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/ndh/art_img/7.jpg
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Pynten
This is a very small project in the area, but the design is somewhat special. 3000 sqmeters officefloor.
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/234.jpg
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Radisson SAS
In the background of the picture above, you can see the brand new Radisson hotel in Nydalen
http://images.worldres.com/property/a72500/72958/hotel.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/749.jpg
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All of these projects(incl. Solsiden), except Pynten, will be heated by a central heating storage, located in
the mountain below. The energy-storage will consist of 1.200.000 cubic meters of mountain, capable of storing
most of the heat needed to warm all those buildings. This is the biggest project of its kind in Europe.
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/642.jpg
When there is a surplus of heat, typically at summer, hot water is pumped down in 180 energy-wells on a depth
of 200 meters. This acumulates to 1.200.000 cubicmeters of mountain.
Energyflow in summer:
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/644.jpg
Read more in norwegian here: http://www.avantor.no/index.php?id=101
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I'll dig up more about Nydalen later. Now to end this post, here are some more pictures from Nydalen.
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/722.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/735.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/726.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/728.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/731.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/733.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/745.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/649.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/641.jpg
The two last ones are from the metrostation
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/743.jpg
http://www.avantor.no/art_img/747.jpg
NorthStar77 September 8th, 2004, 01:40 PM Today it was announced that a new busroute will open downtown, and the big news here is that it will be for free! This is an initiative by 9 shoppingcentres downtown, to make it easier for people to move between the centres. At first, it will only drive on saturday between 12-17, and the stops will be at each centre, as shown in this map. It will go every 15 minutes. Naturally, the annual bill on 1 million kroner (120.000 EUR) will be shared by the centres.
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00220/0809busser_220783a.gif
NorthStar77 September 13th, 2004, 11:01 PM Downtown sidewalks and streets are closed and pedestrians must wend their way through an obstacle course of heavy machinery. The city center is in upheaval but there are plenty of good reasons, one of them being Norway's 100th anniversary of independence next year.
Oslo's central rail station west towards fashionable Frogner has become such a minefield of excavations that smart pedestrians give up and choose underground transportation.
The city's main boulevard, Karl Johans gate, which leads to the palace, is being ripped up, as has the parallel street Stortingsgata. Buses are re-routed and the stoplight near the palace has been converted into a traffic circle.
The city transport authority grants all permission to dig in the capital's streets; everything from a homeowner's need to change a sewage pipe to the gigantic projects taking place throughout the downtown area. This year 3,500 excavation projects will take place in Oslo.
Odd Bratteberg, divisional director at the city transport authority, said that all the disruption hasn't quite angered the general public.
"We don't get abuse but people moan and groan about all the activity," Bratteberg said.
Although the renovations are not a concerted effort, most will be finished by Norway's national day on May 17th next year, when the city will be ready to celebrate the centenary of the dissolution of the union between Sweden and Norway in 1905.
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00222/140746b0070_1056894_222046h.jpg
The area around the National Theater (rear left) is a maze of construction obstacles.
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00222/140746b0109_1056923_222049h.jpg
Frognerveien isn't easy to walk now, but the digging has put a temporary halt to automobile traffic.
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article869515.ece
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An overview of some of the major projects
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00222/1309graving600_222060a.gif
1. Lid over E18, soon finished
2. Brushing up of Storting-street. cost 15-20 million NOK
3. Brushing up of Karl Johan street. Pedestrian street will be longer. 50 million NOK
4. Mosseveien(E18), building bicycle road. 20 million NOK
5. Trondheimsveien, pedestrian tunnel, soon finished. 19 million NOK
6. Rebuilding of the following streets: Frederiks gate, Stortingsgata, Drammensveien, Munkedamsveien og Ruseløkkveien. Construction of roundabout. 84 million NOK
7. Wessels square to National theatre, brushing up tramline
8. Kirkeveien, brushing up tramline and street in general. Making a bicycle lane. 21 million NOK
9. Ullernchausséen/Vækerøveien, construction of roundabout. cost 20 million NOK
10. Smestadkrysset, making a public transport lane. 15 million NOK
11. Drammensveien/Parkveien, roundabout at the american embassy. 3,5 million NOK
12. Persveien bus stop, brushing up. 1,5 million NOK
13. Sognsveien, upgrading pedestrian and bicycle lane. 2 million NOK
14. Nedre Kalbakkvei
15. Kongsveien
16. St. Hanshaugen, bicycle path. 6 million NOK
17. Tøyengata, is to be made into a so-called "enviroment-street", with wide sidewalks etc. 3-4 million
18. Alexander Kiellands plass, 10 streets in the area will get new water-pipes. At the same time, pipes for remote heat will be laid.
19. E6/Skulleruddumpa. Making the road more straight.
Oberleutnant September 22nd, 2004, 12:10 AM "Nydalen station, that opened last year. "Tunnel of light", a weird experience, light changes color constantly and weird sounds occur. I tried it once and felt like I was part of a Stanley Kubric film."
LOL!
Plenty of cool projects going on in Oslo. :)
NorthStar77 September 22nd, 2004, 01:22 PM Thanks Toni:)
As I have mentioned earlier, a new fleet of metro-wagons have been ordered, and will be in place in 2006. That order was on 99 wagons. Today the city council announced that they will use an additional 1 billion NOK(~120 million EUR) to order 90 more wagons, so that the entire fleet will be replaced. This saves the city council of 400 million NOK that it would have costed extra to buy the additional ones later.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article875710.ece
Gatis September 22nd, 2004, 11:35 PM Jeez, that one about the storing the heat under ground - that's phantastic project...!!!!
NorthStar - many of these projects are really interesting.
NorthStar77 September 23rd, 2004, 02:04 PM Yes, I thought that heat-storage facility in the ground was really special too:). I have many other large scale apartment-projects that I have not yet had time to write about, hopefully I will later today.
In the meantime, a small project that was announced today.
Storo Senter
Oslo north
Storo shoppingcentre, one of the old shoppingcentres, announced today that they will add 9000 sqm of space to their centre. 6000 will be retail and 3000 will be offices. They are doing this because their sales are stagnating because people prefer bigger centres with more to offer. Also, this centre lies near Nydalen, and they hope to get better sale because of that, and the fact that a new metrostation open right by the centre last year.
They have not been allowed to build on a bigger area, because of traffical conditions. They are practially surrounded by road, rail and tram on all sides. So I guess that only means it will have to be built upwards:D
No renderings to be found at the moment, but this is how the centre looks like now...rather boring.
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00224/141027d226_F77storo_224616h.jpg
Sale in the biggest shoppingcentres in the Oslo area the first half of this year(and 6 first months of last year):
Ski Storsenter: 750.000.000 (548.000.000 kr.)
Sandvika Storsenter: 719.000.000 (693.000.000 kr.)
Alna senter: 696.000.000 (600.000.000 kr.)
CC Vest: 630.000.000 (526.000.000 kr.)
Oslo City: 612.000.000 (580.000.000 kr.)
Storo Storsenter: 516.000.000 (497.000.000 kr.)
Steen & Strøm Stovner senter: 482.000.000 (480.000.000 kr.)
Aker Brygge: 398.000.000 (425.000.000 kr.)
Byporten Shopping: 338.000.000 (336.000.000 kr.)
Bryn Senter: 330.000.000 (333.000.000 kr.)
NorthStar77 October 4th, 2004, 01:15 AM Grønlandskvartalene
Grønland - Oslo inner east
http://www.gronlandskvartalene.no/img/kvartplan.jpg
An earlier rendering
http://www.dark.no/filestore/stiklestad_fotomont01.jpg
Just north of the Bjøvika developements, 800 apartments is about to be built, in numerous buildings on up to 8 floors. Construction will start in Q4 this year.
A kick-ass view :D
http://www.gronlandskvartalene.no/img/publish/2004/08/apart2.jpg
http://www.gronlandskvartalene.no/img/teatertorget.jpg
http://www.gronlandskvartalene.no/img/publish/2004/05/teatertorg_02.jpg
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Grefsentoppen
Oslo north
http://www.grefsentoppen.no/grefsentoppen/cards/card-pics/perspektivtegning.jpg
85 apartments on 10 floors + 2 floors underground is planned at the border to the city forest. Construction will start by the end of this year.
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Startbo Terrasser
Carl Berner, Oslo inner east
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4221236_1_0_carlberner.jpg
This is a project 200 meters from me, that is currently under construction. 237 apartments will be built, aimed at young people not able to afford "normal" apartments, giving them the opurtunity to own their own place. They are all sold, so unfortunately I was not able to find more photos. (I could just walk up there and take some construction-photos myself though :D )
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Sukkertoppen
Carl Berner, Oslo inner east
http://www.sukkertoppen.no/grafikk/bygget_perspektiv.jpg
Just next to the Startbo-project, these 42 new apartments is also about to start construction. This project was originally planned to be on 16 floors a few years ago, iirc, but you know....
NorthStar77 October 4th, 2004, 10:08 PM Ahus hospital
Lørenskog, eastern suburb
Just east of the city border, a new gigantic hospital is under construction. It will serve 340.000 people in eastern Oslo and eastern suburbs (Romerike). This is the biggest construction project in Norway since Gardermoen. 40.000 truckloads of earth and stone is already been transported from the site, 300 loads of dynamite has been fired, and soon 1500 construction workers will work here.
There will be an own patient hotel, a shopping-street with kiosk, hairdresser, drug store and more. The hospital is necesary to ensure the hospital services to people in an area with rapid population growth, and also because the current buildings are old and unfit. The hospital will be paperless and fully digitized. All info will only be registered once (everyone that has been involved in beurocracy know this is not always the case..). The patients will get their own screen for information, music and films. Two central vacum systems will take care of all garbage and dirty clothes. Automatic vagons will supply the hospital with all goods. The wagons can even take the elevators themselves!
Architects: C.F. Møller (danish)
Total area: 137.000 sqm
Beds: 615, most in single rooms
Cost: 7,64 billion kroner (920 million euro)
Construction start: 1. march 2004
Construction finish: 1. october 2008, but could be finished a year earlier!
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=3991&h=562&w=750
The site today
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00226/141182a026_f03bygge_226588h.jpg
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=3992&h=474&w=750
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=3990&h=562&w=750
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=5017&h=526&w=750
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=5018&h=507&w=750
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=5016&h=419&w=750
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=3986&h=483&w=750
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=5019&h=282&w=750
http://www.cfmoller.com/getimagevar.asp?type=D&src=3197&h=547&w=750
Þróndeimr October 4th, 2004, 10:27 PM I read soem articles about Nye Ahus a couple days ago. The project is large, but should be taller in my opinion...;) They had planned a 24 floor main-tower in the first, later a 12 storey main-tower, but now its gone...:cry:...;)
NorthStar77 October 5th, 2004, 01:13 PM Wow, Christian I didn't know that!
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Hangar golf
Fornebu, Bærum - western suburb
Hangar 4 on the former airport Fornebu, a group of people is making the second largest indoor golf centre in the world. It will open in november, and have a floorspace of 10.000 sqmeters. Lots of other developements is also happening at the former main airport, wich I will come back to later.
Images are from Aftenposten (http://www.aftenposten.no/english/bildeserier/article882102.ece?start=1)
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00226/_DSC_0402x_jpg_226120g.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00226/_DSC_0380x_jpg_226134g.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00226/_DSC_0386x_jpg_226118g.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00226/_DSC_0397x_jpg_226121g.jpg
The driving range
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00226/_tegning1figc_jpg_226178g.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00226/_tegning2figc_jpg_226187g.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00226/_tegning3figc_jpg_226188g.jpg
NorthStar77 October 12th, 2004, 12:35 PM Once again it is discovered more problems on our "new" (5 years old by now) italian made trams. This time the problem is the same as with all italian made veicles in Norway; rust.
The rust-damages do not compromise with the safety of the tram, but is nevertheless unwanted. There is a clear pattern, so it is most likely a production error. The pr-man for our tram-company says he has no doubt that those who produced the trams will take responsibility.
http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1097557043.60652.jpg
Article in norwegian: http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=249491
NorthStar77 October 12th, 2004, 05:12 PM Monorail to Fornebu
In the national budget for 2005, the goverment has set aside 600 million NOK (73 million euro) to start the works on a monorail from Lysaker to Fornebu. At Fornebu wich is in the municipal of Bærum, alot of developement will take place, as I will come back to later, when I have time. Thousands of people will work and live there so it's important to have a public transport system that is fast and reliable. Already the new Telenor HQ and Accenture is located there, with ~7.000 jobs.
The construction will start in 2007, and (hopefullly) be finished in 2009. It will be fully automated, and capable of transporting 4.000 people per hour. They will have departure every 2'nd minute, have 10 stops, and the whole trip will take only 12,5 minutes. It will go in tunnel from Lysaker, under the officepark and apartment-blocks there, and from there go up to a height of 4 meters above ground for the rest of the stretch. Total estimated cost of the monorail is 970 million NOK, and the bill will be shared between the state and Oslo municipal. It is expected that 98-99% of the trains will go without delays(I won't believe that until I see it ;))
Insane alex October 12th, 2004, 09:29 PM What the!!!??? Monorail in Norway???!! is it approved??
NorthStar77 October 12th, 2004, 10:36 PM What the!!!??? Monorail in Norway???!! is it approved??
It has been debated for many years, and with good reason. The municipal of Bærum, where the monorail will be, was those who proposed it, and originally the only ones that was pro it. The municipal of Oslo was against it, so was the goverment, Oslo Sporveier(the public transport company of Oslo), and NSB(Norwegian railroads). Originally, most argued that a tram was cheaper, faster to build, and would make the travel easier, as one could make a direct line from Oslo downtown, so that one would not have to change mean of transportation to get there. Another argument against it, was that monorail would mean yet another form of transport in the Oslo area to administrate(We already have metro, buses, trams, localtrains, boats, and could have a gondol within some years). I was also sorta against it before, because of these reasons, but are more in favour now simply because a monorail will be cooler :D
But now that the goverment has decided to support it with 600 million kroner, I guess it is pretty much approved:)
The article in Aftenposten in norwegian: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article889043.ece
NorthStar77 October 12th, 2004, 11:22 PM Sørkedalsveien 9
Majorstua- Oslo inner west
It's been a while since I've seen anything about the plans to build a lid over the metro-station at Majorstua, and fill it with apartments, offices and a hotel. The original plan included many highrises. Well this seems to be the first step to develope the area. The rendering clearly shows highrises outside of this part of the project, but it remains to see if they get built. Also notice how they have made the highrises transparent in one of the renderings :lol:
250 apartments, and 5.000 sqm offices are planned at this part of developement, and there will be a park between the buildings and towards the west. Construction will start in Q1 next year, and will be finished by the end of 2006.
http://www.fram.no/_img/lokaler/bilde1_1.jpg
In this rendering, you can see the existing KPMG-building, and Collosseum cinema
http://www.fram.no/_img/lokaler/bilde2.jpg
http://www.fram.no/_img/lokaler/bilde3.jpg
http://www.fram.no/_img/lokaler/bilde4.jpg
http://www.fram.no/_img/lokaler/bilde5.jpg
http://www.fram.no/_img/lokaler/bilde6.jpg
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Nydalen Kvarter
Yet another apartment project in Nydalen. This one contains 410 apartments, and the first ones will be finished in Q2 in 2006.
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4570661_3_0_nydalen_fuglepers.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4570661_1_0_grontareal.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4570661_2_0_miljogate.jpg
Þróndeimr October 13th, 2004, 12:09 AM Sørkedalsveien 9 is a very interesting project. I have followed over a time, but not in the latest months, so i did not know of the new proposal/approved version. This one actually reminds me a bit of Waldemars hage. And its great to see something over the metro-station...:) There has been so much opposition against high-rise buildings there, and now i see those rederings which includes 2 or more high-rise buildings over 15 floors, exellent...;)
NorthStar77 October 15th, 2004, 01:05 AM Fornebu
Bærum, western suburb
I've mentioned Fornebu a couple of times here earlier, thought perhaps to let you in on what it is all about. Fornebu,
about 6-8 km west of Oslo downtown, was the major national airport before it was located to Gardermoen in 1999.
The plan was to turn Fornebu into one of the most important IT-centers in the Nordics, but there has been alot
of disagreements between the state, Bærum municipal and Oslo municipal (wich owns the place) on how to
aproach this. Then there was the dotcom-bubble. So the ambitions have become somewhat reduced, but they
are still very big. This is perhaps the biggest urban developement in Norway after Fjordcity at the moment. The plans
include 6000 apartments, offices for 15.000 jobs, a new stadium for Stabæk etc.
Fornebu is a peninsula, and one of the key elements in the plan is to maintain the green areas towards the fjord,
and to make it accessible for everyone. There will also be a central park in the middle of the peninsula. This is a
very simplified scetch of the area
http://www.baerum.kommune.no/wimages/Fornebutegning_300_1.jpg
This is more detailed. Yellow shows residential areas.
http://www.baerum.kommune.no/wimages/ILLUPLAN3.jpg
An aerial rendering
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/fornebu.jpg
Already Telenor has built their new giant HQ here, wich opened 1-2 years ago(can't remember exactly when), with
135.000 sqm officespace to room 7.500 employees.
http://www.nsp.ntnu.no/pages/Arrangement/TEMA%202002/Temadag%2002-04-30/oversiktsbilde2.jpg
http://www.byggenytt.no/prosjekter/telenor/adkomst.jpg
http://www.telenor.no/fornebu/_img/art/buren_1.jpg
As I told about a few posts ago, there is a high possibility that Fornebu will be served with a monorail. The red
line shows the route that Bærum has planned for it.
http://www.baerum.kommune.no/wimages/fornebukart600.jpg
http://www.baerum.kommune.no/wimages/Tillegsutredning2003_02_0001.jpg
The plan is to provide the entire Fornebu with central vacum garbage handling. The garbage will also be sorted ofcourse.
http://www.baerum.kommune.no/wimages/vakuumanlegg_illustrasjon600_1.jpg
The next area to be developed is the IT-zone, where there will be 600 apartments and 6.000 jobs. T
he guidelines for the regulations of the area was aproved by Bærum city council this summer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/fornebu2.jpg
http://www.baerum.kommune.no/wimages/Vedlegg3b_1.jpg
Companies have already started to move in to the old terminal building.
http://www.itfi.no/default.asp?FILE=items/86/4&rnd=0,1362818
http://www.itfi.no/default.asp?FILE=items/85/4&rnd=0,2794093
This shows the steps of the developement of this area.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/fornebu3.jpg
This shows a simplified regulation plan. Red line is bicycle paths, the green areas are green corridors, etc.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/fornebu4.jpg
Next to the IT-zone is Rolvsbukta, wich under developement. The first people can move in there in 2006.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/rolfsbukta.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/rolf2.jpg
As you can see, there is alot of areas on Fornebu that I have not covered yet. I have seen more detailed info
on the other residential zones aswell, but can't find them right now. Anyways, those are a bit further in to the future.
LatvianGG October 15th, 2004, 10:02 PM :eek2: Looks very nice... What is Telenor exacly? Something to do with phoning I suppose?
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/9767/oversiktsbilde2.jpg
Oberleutnant October 15th, 2004, 10:35 PM Yeah, the largest cellphone / internet provider in Norway.
@ Arvid
As I told you in MSN, lot of fascinating things going on. No, none of them aren't very tall, but very interesting nonetheless - especially the monorail. Please excuse my short reply. :)
Moolio October 15th, 2004, 11:53 PM The Telenor HQ is quite some giant truly, if it is as big as you claim. The architecture is pretty nice as well; the curved walls must look really great in person. They ought to have built a hi-rise there, though. It would give a certain balance to the building, it being so large in terms of the buildings footprint. Nonetheless, I've seen the building before in some previous thread, and I've remembered it ever since, it is one of the most magnificent low-rises in our region.
The Sørkedalsveien 9 looks very nice as well. I think there is a very good balance between low-rises and mid/hi-rises. There is a very modern, cosy and somehow perhaps even a feminine look to them, and I don't mean feminine in a bad way, merely I mean that the buildings are very sleek and "streamlined", if you will. All in all, if these projects get realized, you have a lot to be proud of. :)
NorthStar77 November 13th, 2004, 01:34 AM The Telenor HQ is quite some giant truly, if it is as big as you claim. The architecture is pretty nice as well; the curved walls must look really great in person. They ought to have built a hi-rise there, though. It would give a certain balance to the building, it being so large in terms of the buildings footprint. Nonetheless, I've seen the building before in some previous thread, and I've remembered it ever since, it is one of the most magnificent low-rises in our region.
It is a unique and magnificent building! And it is as big as I told;) I've only seen in once in real life though. There is more to this building than just the design. Telenor thought of new ways to organize their workplace when they built it. As a result, none of the emplyees there have their own workplace. Everything is done by laptops, so when you get to work, you simply find a place that is free. This may vary from day to day, and if you are there early, you can get a stunning view over the fjord. I've a couple of friends that have worked there over some time, and they say this works fine!
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Some news:
* Oslo sporveier(the public transport company) and Veidekke Entreprenør have been charged by the police for violations of the working-enviroment laws, after the huge stone-slide inside a metro tunnel during works on the new metro tunnel from Carl Berner to Sinsen. It was only luck that none of the workers was injured or died in the accident. And indeed that no metro train was there when it happened:eek: Line 5 have still not opened after the accident that occured this summer. It's not known when it will open, so the 30.000 people that rely on the line each day will have to continue to take extra busses that are set up. All these extra buses have caused more traffic chaos on the roads, and more aggressive drivers this fall. Add to this that much of the street pattern in Oslo reminds of a big construction site at the moment.
The slide also stopped the construction of the residential project "Sukkertoppen", wich I have described before, since it is located directly above where the accident took place, like this illustration shows.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00233/kjelleruker_233999a.jpg
*The new Bislet stadion is set to be finished 29'th of July next year, to the Golden League event. That is quite remarkable considering the construction started just a few months ago.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00189/_0998165_jpg_189625h.jpg
However they are experiencing that the costs are getting 6 million euro higher than the budget on 50 million euros. Most of that comes from the 14 months(!!) delay that the project have had(for political reasons).
http://www.bygg.no/ImageResizeCache/e826c0e8b5b3bdd207bb13908ea45f08.jpg
NorthStar77 November 13th, 2004, 02:16 AM Qvernerbyen
Inner Oslo east - a few hundred meters from my new place
On the former industrial site of Kværner, Obos is planning to build 1800 apartments. There will also be built 48.000 sqm for service and commerce, part of wich will be fit into existing indutrial buildings on the site. There will among other things be a an national museum of art there. Alna river runs through the area, and it will be used for canals(if I understand it correct)
The construction will start next year, and I remember reading that the average height will be 6 floors. Total construction cost will be 500 million euros.
http://www.obos.no/img_gallery/imgroot/Nye_Hjem/Bilder/Prosjekter/QvarnerByen_oversikt_liten.jpg
http://www.obos.no/img_gallery/imgroot/Nye_Hjem/Bilder/Prosjekter/Kvarneromradet.jpg
http://www.obos.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=288817&ext=.jpg&height=0&width=200&resize=true
Part of the industrial site
http://www.bygg.no:80/ImageResizeCache/16eaa9d1a36303c943d51b44ffadc2a7.jpg
while we are in the neighbourhood
Vålerenga park
Inner Oslo east - a few hundred meters from my new place
41 apartment made in typical Vålerenga style. Planned construction start Q4 this year, and finished Q4 next year.
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4388945_1_0_perspektiv.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4388945_2_0_fasader.jpg
And while we are in the neighbourhood...:DI discovered this new highrise project
Øvre Lodalen
4 highrises on 13 floors, with 200 apartments. Man, these look like very ordinary 60'ies style commieblocks!!! Just what we don't need if we would like more people to like highrises:( You can see the four of them in the front of this picture. And btw, you can also see my new apartment there. In the background is also the "mini-cluster" at Helsfyr. The plan is waiting aproval this autumn.
http://www.lodalen.net/utbyggingssak/Utbygging%20-%20Bilde.JPG
Þróndeimr November 13th, 2004, 12:30 PM Øvre Lodalen
4 highrises on 13 floors, with 200 apartments. Man, these look like very ordinary 60'ies style commieblocks!!! Just what we don't need if we would like more people to like highrises:( You can see the four of them in the front of this picture. And btw, you can also see my new apartment there. In the background is also the "mini-cluster" at Helsfyr. The plan is waiting aproval this autumn.
http://www.lodalen.net/utbyggingssak/Utbygging%20-%20Bilde.JPG
Noooo, this is horrible. I've seen this project before, but only overview images. But i did not expect to see any beautiful buildings here. But they looks indeed like some 60'ies style commieblocks(shame). Luckly they are still a proposal and i hope they cancal this project before it becomes a big news.
Oberleutnant November 24th, 2004, 04:36 PM I'm hoping that they *don't* approve this one. Has its fate been decided yet?
NorthStar77 November 24th, 2004, 04:50 PM I have never seen the project until I accidently bumped into in on a rather strange website. Lets hope it will just stay on that website!
Þróndeimr November 24th, 2004, 09:59 PM I have never seen the project until I accidently bumped into in on a rather strange website. Lets hope it will just stay on that website!
This information was first posted in december 2002 on Etterstad vel. (http://www.etterstad.no/index.php?vis=nyhet153)
But when i first saw it there was only some area-maps and few of information, but i did create a small thread about it(a looong time ago). Now there is more information, and a report of opposition against the project. It also stands that this project was first a 5 high-rise proposal with 13 floor. The project is made by some local architects from Oslo, who don't have any web site for further information.
NorthStar77 December 6th, 2004, 11:29 PM Time to move out to the suburbs, to tell about some of the projects there. There are alot going on in the suburbs too. In the eastern suburbs of Romerrike, there is a total of 1091 new apartments for sale right now. The same amount can be found in the southern and western suburbs combined. These projects attract many people in Oslo that finds the prizes centrally in Oslo too high, around 50% of the buyer comes from Oslo city. Most project focus on having a short distance to public transport(mostly train), and regional "downtowns".
The projects I'll present in this post are located like shown on this rather poor map...just to show the location. I know of more, and the more projects I search for, the more I find. But these will do for now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/kart.jpg
1. Wøyen Torg
72 apartments, and 5000 sqm of retail. Located in the biggest suburbian municipality, Bærum, wich has about 100.000 inhabitants.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/wyen.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/wyen3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/wyen2.jpg
2. Marienlyst park
Drammen
Drammen is a town of its own, but since it lies only 40 km from Oslo, with a good train and motorway connection, it's getting more popular to move there. There are quite alot of people at my workplace that lives in Drammen. This project should not be confused with to project with the same name at Majorstua in Oslo.
This project is located quite centrally near downtown of Drammen. It's unclear how many apartments will be built, but 52 will be finished in the first step, by beginning of 2006.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/marienlyst.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/marienlyst2.jpg
The location
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/marienlyst3.jpg
3. Salmakertunet
Ski - southern suburb
Number of apartments: 173. First step, with 44 apartments is finished.
Location:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/295pxKartSki.jpg
First step:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/SalmakertunetDSC_0039295px.jpg
Next step won't be much different
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/295pxperspektiv.jpg
4. Soltunet
Jessheim - eastern suburb
180 apartments, first step finished already. Jessheim lies not far from the airport, and is the centre in the municipality of Ullensaker, wich has a population-growth of 2% per year.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/295pxbebyggelsesplancopy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/295pxsoltunetI.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/295pxBILDE-til-side-2-copy.jpg
5. Kolbotn torg
Kolbotn - southern suburb
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/kolbotn.jpg
53 apartments, wich is only a part of the plan to make the "downtown" of the municipality of Oppegård more lively. Other parts of this plan involves a new cultural house, and commercial areas. All in all, about 800-900 million nok will be invested.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/kolbotn2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/kolbotn.jpg
6. Hauger park
Bærum
130 apartments, finished Q1 of 2006.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00242/_F02hauger0312_jpg_242280h.jpg
7. Billingstadlia
Asker - western suburb
92 apartments, finished next autumn.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00242/_F02billingstad0312_242279h.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/billingstad.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/billingstad2.jpg
8. Lillestrøm atrium
Lillestrøm - eastern suburb
Lillestrøm is a suburb that has started to rapidly grow into a town, after the track for the airport-express train was built to go through. From Lillestrøm you can now get to Oslo downtown, wich is aproximately 15 km away, in 11 minutes by local train. All of that ride, bar a couple of kilometers, goes through the tunnel called Romeriks-porten.
This is one of the projects under developement here, with 73 apartments. Lillestrøm has also got the new national fair, a new hotel, and more, and housing prices here have skyrocketed.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00242/_F02lillestr_matriu_242283h.jpg
9. Lørenskog sentrum vest
Lørenskog - eastern suburb
1000 apartments over a period of 10 years. First will be finished by the end of 2006.
http://www.lorenskogsentrum.no/images/utomhusr.jpg
http://www.lorenskogsentrum.no/images/index_04.jpg
10. Rolvsrud park
Lørenskog - eastern suburb
450 apartments, 200 finished.
http://www.rolvsrudpark.no//filearchive/bilder/bilder_til_bildesiden/terrasse1.jpg
http://www.krogsveen.no/images_nybygg/897/RPBebyggelseplaninnh.jpg
sources:
http://www.aftenposten.no/eiendom/article924439.ece
http://www.krogsveen.no/index.db2?id=39&uid=2
http://www.ncc.no/templates/ncc_generic.asp?id=3087
http://www.kolbotntorg.no/k/
http://www.billingstadlia.no/
NorthStar77 December 6th, 2004, 11:58 PM Construction-boom has come to stay
A humble effort to translate this (http://www.aftenposten.no/eiendom/article923341.ece) article in Aftenposten 2'nd dec.
Oslo is now one of the areas in Europe where construction activity is highest, there may be built 35.000 apartments the next years.
A range of prestigous projects are under planning for the moment, so there will be plenty to choose from for those looking for a new place in the years ahead.
- The variety of offers(?) is really getting up. We have identified 35.000 apartments that are on the planning-stage at the moment, Fornebu excluded, says Bjørn Erik Øye at Prognosesenteret.
Among those projects are Quernerbyen, Lørenbyen, Ensjøbyen, Bjørvika, and Tjuvholmen. In addition comes several in-fills projects.
-The problem can be, that many of these projects are located on the most expensive land lots in Norway. There is a risk of some of the projects failing, says Øye.
He thinks there have not been such a rapid developement since the construction of the "drabantbyer"(~commieblock-suburbs) in Groruddalen(in the 60'ies).
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Oslo is at the top in Europe if we look at the number of apartments under construction per capita. Only Ireland and Spain builds more. Ireland has a boom similar to what we had post WW2, and in Spain, the boom is caused by holiday-apartments.
In the 90'ies, we were at the bottom of that statistic. Norway in general has about the same construction activity as the average in Western-Europe, Oslo is a special case. - The centralistion-process is still strong in Norway, and the construction of apartments was lagging behind.
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_keen_ December 7th, 2004, 09:25 AM Some additional buildings look good... but those complexes look too industrial...
NorthStar77 December 14th, 2004, 05:36 PM /\ I think some do that, but I think most will turn out nice in real life:)
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Byhaven
Lillestrøm
Another project at Lillestrøm, wich shows that Lillestrøm is in a process of turning into a town.
109 apartments, 69 of wich is sold already. It will be on 5 floors, and have an area of 15.000 sqm, of wich 2.000 will be retail. Construction will start next month, and be finished by August 2006. This project advertises with having their own gardener:)
http://www.by-haven.no/bilder/moe-2-460px.jpg
http://www.by-haven.no/bilder/moe-1-460px.jpg
This shows how the quartal will fit in
http://www.by-haven.no/bilder/oversikt-760.jpg
edit:
found another apartment project some quartals from this, Solsiden, wich is about finished now. 43 apartments here.
http://www.solsiden-pa-torvet.no/bilder/torvet_300px.jpg
The view:
http://www.solsiden-pa-torvet.no/bilder/utsikt_1_300px.jpg
http://www.solsiden-pa-torvet.no/bilder/utsikt_2_300px.jpg
NorthStar77 December 14th, 2004, 05:56 PM Alexander Kiellands plass(eng. square)
Alexander Kiellands plass - close to Waldemars hage
Where there was a petrol station not long ago, it is now a construction site for this project. 66 apartments, wich will be finished by summer 2006. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't want to live here, it's right next to a very busy intersection.
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4838521_1_0_kiellands_hus_fasade0001.jpg
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Haugerud Panorama
Haugerud - Oslo east
4 floors will be added to Haugerud centre, making it 9 floors "tall". This will make room for 20 new apartments.
http://www.exact.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=152494&ext=.jpg
The view from there:
http://www.exact.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=152488&ext=.jpg
NorthStar77 December 17th, 2004, 05:07 PM http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00245/142962rt006_F26trik_245500h.jpg
The frequency on two tramlines increased a month ago, to going each 5'th minute. This is in a probation-period, to see if it will be economically viable to make all the lines into what they call "rolling sidewalks".
Since they started this probation, the two lines has seen an increase in traffic on 9%, compared to last year same time. That means 10.000 more passengers each week. 1/3 of all passengers say that they will most definitely use the tram more if it continues to go every 5'th minute. Transportøkonomisk institutt (TØI) made a report earlier this year saying that doing 5 minute routes will not cost more than today, given an increase in number of passengers. One month is too short time to be certain that the increased frequency is to blame for the increased traffic.
In order for this increased frequency to be as effective as possible, it is also necesary to do an effort to make it more navigable for the trams, so they can move faster, not haulting at red lights etc.
The plan is to have 5 minute-routes on all lines inside ringroad 3, and 10 minute-routes outside, in 2006.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article933230.ece
Here you can see the new tramline-map. The stapled green shows the two lines with 5 minute departments.
http://www.trafikanten.no/Grafikk/Trikkekart_11_2004.gif
Swede December 17th, 2004, 07:21 PM Sounds good that they're increasing the tram traffic.
... all lines inside ringroad 3,
What?! ringroad 3? is that an actual road that ring the city with two other ones inside it??
Oberleutnant December 17th, 2004, 08:06 PM We've got three of them, too. Jealous? :D
(okay, the second one is a tad bit . . . short)
How's travelling in Oslo trams, do they often attract "less social folk" ie drunkards?
NorthStar77 December 20th, 2004, 09:16 AM What?! ringroad 3? is that an actual road that ring the city with two other ones inside it??
Yes, or not closed circles acctually, as they are cut by the fjord. I've marked the rings in blue. About half of Ring 1 is a tunnel, and the rest is in the normal traffic, with red lights and stuff, most is 4 lane. Ring 2 is 4 lanes, but not a highway eighter. But Ring 3 is 4/6 lane highway all round. It goes in a tunnel in its northernmost and westernmost point, and there are plans to make a tunnel from Sinsen to Økern in the east aswell.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/ring.jpg
How's travelling in Oslo trams, do they often attract "less social folk" ie drunkards?
:yes: but not to such extent that it bothers me much.
NorthStar77 December 20th, 2004, 09:25 AM The traffic at Gardermoen is increasing faster than at Kastrup or Arlanda, and is expected to reach 15 million by the end of this year. By the end of November, almost 14 millions had traveled at Gardermoen, an increase of 9,2% from the same period last year. This happen at the same time as the low-price Sandefjord airport Torp has established itself at 1 million passengers per year.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00245/1912passasjerer_245792a.gif
Gardermoen is designed to handle 17 million passengers anno, but one has to prepare another terminal before that number is reached. There has already been made a tunnel under the airport area, to serve another pier in the future.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/okonomi/article933783.ece
NorthStar77 December 22nd, 2004, 01:42 PM The construction of the new Bislett stadium is going ahead at full speed. After the old stadium was demolished in august, it is now half finished, and the entire stadium wall will be finished in february, the whole arena will be finished within the Bislett-games 29 July next year, when many of the worlds best athlethes will visit it again. 6 truckloads of concrete-elements arrives the site daily from Denmark, and 99 meters of the stadium wall has been erected in just 6 days. This very intimate stadium will have 15.000 seats when finished.
Photo from 2'nd august
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20040802_bislett12d.jpg
19'th september
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20040916_bislett01c.jpg
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20040901_bislett45c.jpg
8'th november
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20041108_bislett15c.jpg
5'th december
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20041205_bislett04c.jpg
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20041205_bislett08c.jpg
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20041205_bislett20c.jpg
From 14'th december
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20041205_bislett20c.jpg
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20041214_bislett11c.jpg
19'th december
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20041219_bislett17c.jpg
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20041219_bislett37d.jpg
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20041219_bislett24d.jpg
(c)Aftenposten
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00246/143017A003_F18bisle_246547h.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00246/143017A006_F01bisle_246546h.jpg
This is how it will look when finished
http://www.friluftsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/bilder/artikler/77253/Modell%20Luft%20nord.jpg
http://www.friluftsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/bilder/artikler/80780/bislett_plass.jpg
http://www.friluftsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/bilder/artikler/78894/sofie_plass.jpg
http://www.friluftsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/bilder/artikler/78896/lordahl.jpg
How it was before
http://www.friluftsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/bilder/artikler/77255/flyfoto.jpg
The special thing about this stadium is its urban location, and its history. The debate on wheter to build a new or to restore the old stadium has been going for years.
NorthStar77 January 4th, 2005, 01:20 PM As I have said earlier(maybe not in this thread), the US is looking for a new site to biuld a new embassy. Their current one is the most unsafe in Europe (or was it the world), because of it's central location.
The site called Huseby, a former millitary campus west in town, is singled out as a place that fits. It is in a residential area dominated by single attached houses. The neighbours has been complaining about it all this autumn, they naturally don't want a terror-target as neighbour, but I think there are few places within Oslo that fits better than this.
The regulation-plans have started, so I think it is most likely that it will be built there.
http://img108.exs.cx/img108/897/huseby9jv.jpg
As you can see, Huseby is a pretty large area, here compared with Aker brygge and Frognerparken. So they are thinking of building 1000-1600 dwellings and a park there too.
http://img108.exs.cx/img108/2407/huseby25vh.jpg
http://www.byu.oslo.kommune.no/bilder/artikler/98881/Husebyskogen_flyfoto2.jpg
http://www.byu.oslo.kommune.no/bilder/artikler/98881/Husebyskogen_ambassadetomt2.jpg
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And now some sad news:(
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00248/_A14biler0401_jpg_248815h.jpg
Car traffic increased by 1.2% in Oslo last year. While the public transport company had probably more travelers in 1999, than in 2004, and only an increase of 0.6%, half of the private transport growth.
Travellers with Oslo sporveier
2004: 152 millions (pr. 1. dec. Same period in 2003: 151 mill.)
2003: 158,5 mill.
2002: 162 mill.
2001: 165 mill.
2000: 163 mill.
1999: 160,7 mill.
Daily amount of veichles passing the toll-stations
2004: 248 300
2003: 245 200
2002: 244 100
2001: 243 700
2000: 240 500
1999: 237 600
Monkey January 4th, 2005, 09:05 PM Boy, NorthStar! You've been busy! :okay:
Let me just jot down a few thoughts. Yes, I remember you told us the US embassy, currently in a downtown location (?), was looking for a new site (cant' remember in which thread, either ;) ). Glad it has finally been found! :) The neighbors' concerns are understandable.
Rebuilding Bislett Stadium in the middle of that residential neighborhood must raise a lot of controversy. I bet those people aren't happy at all with the massive invasion of cars and people each time there is an event there. Again, I can well understand their concerns.
Finally, the phenomenon of the increase in automobile traffic. Is this perhaps ascribable to an overall population growth? Or is it because people simply love their cars too much? :bash:
If you care to listen, we have a mighty battle about the University's football stadium raging here in Berkeley, a battle that has been going on for ages. The place seats 65,000 spectators and is built at the edge of town, in the middle of a single home residential neighborhood. Although some fans do use public transit, each time there is a game our narrow neighborhood streets are clogged with cars. Memorial Stadium also sits right on top of an earthquake fault.
The place is now up for a multimillion $$$ rehab & modernization job & will be fitted with night lights. The opposition, of course, thinks the University should just forget about the stadium altogether & build a new one elsewhere, closer to transit & the freeways.
Unfortunately, the University doesn't care about its enormous impacts on Berkeley & its citizens. Under their charter, they can do whatever they please. And they do! :bash:
Þróndeimr January 4th, 2005, 10:17 PM Huseby, hm, i've actually never head much about Huseby. Its far from downtown though. Its rather bad that they situate the embassy in the middel of a larger residential area, mostly with small familly houses., i really understand why they do not agree in the embassy planns. Huseby might be a good place to situate the embassy nan the less, but isn't there any other option?
NorthStar77 January 4th, 2005, 10:48 PM Ohh, that is sad to hear WH, that the UC of Berkeley is so powerfull that they so brutally can do what they want.
Rebuilding Bislett Stadium in the middle of that residential neighborhood must raise a lot of controversy. I bet those people aren't happy at all with the massive invasion of cars and people each time there is an event there. Again, I can well understand their concerns.
That has not been the controversy. I doubt there are many that drives to the stadium, it is very difficult to find a parking place there on a normal day, it goes trams and buses right by, and it takes 10-15 minutes to walk from downtown. The controversy has been wheter to restore the old station, or to build a new. The old one had great architectoric value, and many have fond memories from there. So therefore the battle has been going on for years.
Finally, the phenomenon of the increase in automobile traffic. Is this perhaps ascribable to an overall population growth? Or is it because people simply love their cars too much? :bash:
It could be alittle bit of both, I think. I think there are two trends. Those who have cars, drive more. But I've also read that young people in Oslo at an increasing rate do not take the drivers licence. Most of my firends comes from outside Oslo, so most of us have the licence, but only around 1 out of 5 have a car. I think it is disturbing though, that car traffic is increasing faster than public transport.
Huseby, hm, i've actually never head much about Huseby. Its far from downtown though. Its rather bad that they situate the embassy in the middel of a larger residential area, mostly with small familly houses., i really understand why they do not agree in the embassy planns. Huseby might be a good place to situate the embassy nan the less, but isn't there any other option?
I don't think so, except out in the forest somewhere, wich is maybe not a good option eighter. They need a pretty large area for security. There are some houses around, but the population density around there are lower than any other alternative. It is also located by lightrail, and not so far from ringroad 3.
Parzival February 4th, 2005, 12:25 AM Sadly, most of the projects in Oslo, and whereever else in Norway is projects with buildings under 12 floors, the buildings over 12 floors is usally quite secret, and there is impassible to find any information or images from them. I will try to post as many project as passible with buildings over 12 floors, but most larger interesting projects in Oslo contents buildings under 12 floors.
Cant beliver why?
I mean Oslo has the second highest skyscraper of all nordic countries?
NorthStar77 February 4th, 2005, 12:54 AM /\ it was built in the yappy late 80'ies/early 90'ies. It is still uncertain, however, how the rules for highrises will be in the future. The planning authorities are pro highrises in certain areas, while a majority of the politicians is against highrises, exept for in a few areas. Some politicians was at a trip to Marseilles(of all places) to study highrises some weeks ago. And they were in Rotterdam a few months ago. It remains to see what will be the final desition.
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News on public transport:
Privates want to build new highway
The two most trafficated roads in Norway, will probably not recieve a single krone from the state for upgrades in the period 2006-2015. People living in the western suburbs of Bærum and Asker are now fed up of waiting for a new highway on E-18 westwards from Oslo, wich is one of northern Europes most trafficated roads(around 100.000 cars per day). It is heavy congestion here every day, and the traffick in the Oslo area is expected to increase by 30% until 2025. So they want to build their own highway, going in a tunnel under the existing highway. The price on this project will be 10,5 billion kr(1.3 billion euro). With a toll-station charging 10 kr for each car, it will take 19 years to pay for the road. If the necesary aprovals are made, the construction can start in 2007, and be finished in 2011-2012. The "road authorities" are postive to a cooperation with the group, but are sceptical if yet another toll-station in the Oslo area is smart.
Þróndeimr February 4th, 2005, 01:10 PM Some politicians was at a trip to Marseilles(of all places) to study highrises some weeks ago.
:| ridiculous!
NorthStar77 February 4th, 2005, 01:31 PM /\Indeed!!
What is even more rediculous, is that these politicians didn't have ANY architects, urbanist, or any proffessionals AT ALL with them on their trip! I think that says something about the "high" standards of some of our politicians. I bet they had quite a fun time down there, with lots of fine dinners and some wild parties....:|
Þróndeimr February 7th, 2005, 11:33 PM Oslo City to get Larger!
Oslo City is already the largest shopping mall in Oslo with a turnover on 1.3 billion NOK, but this is not enough. A new floor with 3 300sqm of retail area will be added. The planns has been developed for three years, but the construction has finally started.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00257/_A10city0702_jpg_257829h.jpg
The new entrance to Oslo City. It will contain a big screen for (short?) movies.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/OsloCity2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/OsloCity1.jpg
A new inside look.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/OsloCity3.jpg
NorthStar77 February 8th, 2005, 12:10 AM Yeah, looks okay:) This is a good news, for the location of this centre is as central as it gets!! All public transport is within two minutes walk, and Jernbanetorget metro-station is in the basement even.
It may be the biggest in Oslo, but just outside the city borders, there are some large shopping centres, like Strømmen Storsenter, Sandvika Storsenter + a few more. The screen mentioned is for showing special events in the centre etc. Further news about the extension: H&M will extend their shop with one floor, so that it alone will cover 4 floors, the biggest in Norway by far(Now they are on 3 floors but don't even have a mens department, need to cross the street for that). The best news with this is that Clas Ohlson will move in there, nice! Now I can also have fun when I am out shopping with my girlfriend:D
Aftenposten also wrote about this today:http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article964251.ece
Þróndeimr February 8th, 2005, 09:22 AM It may be the biggest in Oslo, but just outside the city borders, there are some large shopping centres, like Strømmen Storsenter, Sandvika Storsenter + a few more. The screen mentioned is for showing special events in the centre etc. Further news about the extension: H&M will extend their shop with one floor, so that it alone will cover 4 floors, the biggest in Norway by far(Now they are on 3 floors but don't even have a mens department, need to cross the street for that). The best news with this is that Clas Ohlson will move in there, nice! Now I can also have fun when I am out shopping with my girlfriend:D
Aftenposten also wrote about this today:http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article964251.ece
Yea, Oslo actually need a larger shopping center, both Strømmen and Sandvika Storsenter is larger than Oslo City. Btw, where is Clas Ohlson nowdays?
NorthStar77 February 8th, 2005, 10:49 AM Yea, Oslo actually need a larger shopping center, both Strømmen and Sandvika Storsenter is larger than Oslo City. Btw, where is Clas Ohlson nowdays?
Clas Ohlson is in Torggata, between Youngstorget and Oslo domkirke, right across the street from Eldorado cinema-complex, if you know where that is. So it's only a 5 minutes walk from Oslo City now. They are at Sandvika Storsenter too.
About Oslo City not beeing large enough. Right across the street lies Byporten and Oslo Shopping(inside Oslo S), and on the other side lies Gunerius. The combined turnover of these are 2.7 billion kroner (324 million euro). But you are right, it is still not "large enough", because the suburban shoppingcentres seems to have an edge on what to offer their customers, and they have a bigger increase in turnover than the ones downtown. Another reason why they need to expand is to plan for the future. This area will become even more central, when Bjørvika is developed, and the district of Gamlebyen will near double its population. Already there are soooo many people here shopping in the weekends, it is really too crowded.
But this is not the only downtown shoppingcentre that is expanding. The shoppingcentre at Aker Brygge doubled its size last year, and Sten&Strøm(the first shoppingcentre in Norway, from the 60'ies I believe) are about to do some major upgrades.
I just discovered that Oslo City is not the biggest in Oslo, only the biggest in downtown. Alna center, and CC vest is bigger, and growing faster than Oslo City, unfortunately. There are also countless of local shoppingcentres in the various "commieblock towns", or drabantbyene in Oslo, like Tveita, Oppsal, Manglerud, Stovner, Bryn etc. Many of them have extended recently, and Stovner has grown so much that it has become one of the biggest in the country, with a turnover of 1 billion kr.
NorthStar77 February 14th, 2005, 11:33 PM Work on new Ring 3 between Ulven and Sinsen started today
http://www.vegvesen.no/region_ost/prosjekter/ring3ulvensinsen/innslagvsinsenforweb.jpg
This is a huge infrastructure project, with the most important beeing the 1,2 km 6 lane tunnel, Lørentunnellen, between Sinsen and Økern. Økern is probably the area in the city with most traffic, as 3 major roads meet there, in a rather chaotic way. These are Ring 3 (63 000 cars pr. day (1998)), Østre Aker vei (37 000 cars pr. day (1998)) and Økernveien (20 000 cars pr. day (1998)). There has been registered 124 traffic-accidents in this area in the period 1998-2001. This project will make sure of better flow in the traffic, better safety, and better conditions for the local enviroment.
In this project is also a 320 meter long 2-lane tunnel, Økerntunnellen, a new road between Ulvensplitten og Økernveien, and a new mainroute for bicycling. The entire project has a budget on 1,6 billion kr(200 million euros), and will not be finished until 2010, because of the complicated task of making this in a heavy trafficated area.
http://www.vegvesen.no/region_ost/prosjekter/nyulven_sinsen/bilder_og_ill/bildegalleri/images/0106_2005medium.jpg
http://www.vegvesen.no/region_ost/prosjekter/nyulven_sinsen/bilder/okern-oversikt-web2.jpg
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Haslekollen
Hasle - will be near Lørenbyen in the future
Skanska is planning to build 600 apartments at Hasle. The only render I found:
http://www.bygg.no/ImageResizeCache/1389ebfb4528ccca45b8d39c48e7078e.jpg
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Lysaker brygge
Lysaker
At the border between Oslo and the western suburb of Bærum, 354 apartments is beeing built in a quite maritime setting. In total 9 buildings is beeing built, on 5-6 floors. The 3 first was finished last year, while the 3 last ones will be finished by the end of this year. There will also be around 30.000 sqm of office and retail.
This project won the state's price for good construction for 2004, quoting the jury:
"I året som kommer kan den videre utbyggingen på dette tidligere området for Finas oljetanker fungere som en læreprosess for alle som er opptatt av sammenhenger mellom bolig- og byutvikling. Den fem til seks etasjers høye boligbebyggelsen bryter med den ensidige kontorutnyttelsen langs Lysakerselvas munning og sjøsiden ved Oslo-fjorden og tilbyr, i tillegg til boliger, nye attraktive fellesarealer for hele området. Prosjektet åpner opp for en sammenhengende gang- og sykkellinje langs fjorden, helt inn til Oslo sentrum.
Lysaker Brygge er blitt et prosjekt hvor håndverksglede og stolthet hos bygningsarbeiderne er merkbart tilstede. Byggeriet er gjennomført med en sjelden grad av materialitet og en poetisk følsomhet for variasjoner og kvaliteter i det ytre miljø. Ytterveggene er utført med innskjæringer og utkraginger, varierte fargevirkninger og sansbare, taktile materialkvaliteter. (Planer for neste byggetrinn, med ?blått murverk? og den høyreiste portalen ut mot sjøen, virker minst like overbevisende som de allerede ferdige partier).
Anleggets overføringsverdi til andre urbane boligprosjekter er særlig det store og varierte tilbudet i leilighetstørrelser (og dermed type husholdninger i anlegget) og den høye kvaliteten i utforming av atkomster, fellesrom og fasader. Når dette er utført til byggepriser (eks. tomt) som kan konkurrere med byggepriser i andre byboligprosjekter i Norge, må det bety at arkitekten for dette prosjektet sitter inne med store kunnskaper om prosjektering og en usvikelig vilje til profesjonalitet og innlevelse - noe som synes å ha påvirket andre deltakere og ansvarlige i prosjektet til ekstra innsats."
http://www.ifi.no/bilder_andre_str/Egetvindu/2004/2004_12/Lysaker1.jpg
http://www.ifi.no/bilder_andre_str/Egetvindu/2004/2004_12/Lysaker2.jpg
http://www.ifi.no/bilder_andre_str/Egetvindu/2004/2004_12/Lysaker3.jpg
http://www.ifi.no/bilder_andre_str/Egetvindu/2004/2004_12/Lysaker4.jpg
Lysaker has in a relatively short time developed from beeing just a train-station, to have officespace for 20.000 employees. Officespace for another 5-10.000 people, and 1500 new apartments are under planning near the station area. The train-station itself will also be upgraded in the period from late this year to 2008.
Render of the new train-station(the current one only have 2 tracks):
http://www.jernbaneverket.no/multimedia/archive/01417/Nye_Lysaker_stasjo_1417685a.jpg
Monkey February 15th, 2005, 02:37 AM Thank you for the news, NorthStar! :)
The tunnel project sounds very ambitious! :eek: But, once the understandably long construction period with all its noise and upheaval is over, this should be a vast improvement! Not only for the cars but also for the area. :cool:
And those apartment buildings in Baerum are very attractive! The only thing I wonder about is that low, dark edifice with the square openings by the water shown here (http://www.ifi.no/bilder_andre_str/Egetvindu/2004/2004_12/Lysaker1.jpg) (first photo). Or is that being demolished?
NorthStar77 February 15th, 2005, 10:22 AM Thank you Whose Homepage:)
The tunnel project sounds very ambitious! :eek: But, once the understandably long construction period with all its noise and upheaval is over, this should be a vast improvement! Not only for the cars but also for the area. :cool:
Quite ambitios yes, but I must say that norwegians are experts in tunnell-construction:D Did you know that the longest tunnell in the world is in Norway? Lærdalstunnellen in western Norway is no less than 24,5 km.
http://www.ncc.no/upload/no/våre%20produkter/samferdsel/lerdalstunnelsen(240x210).jpg
Also in Oslo, there are lots of highway tunnels, some even bigger than this one. Not to mention Romeriksporten that is a train-tunnel, that takes you from downtown Oslo, to Lillestrøm, 15 km away, in 11 minutes. There was a big scandal about this one when it was built, but that's another story(it leaked).
And those apartment buildings in Baerum are very attractive! The only thing I wonder about is that low, dark edifice with the square openings by the water shown here (http://www.ifi.no/bilder_andre_str/Egetvindu/2004/2004_12/Lysaker1.jpg) (first photo). Or is that being demolished?
I wondered that too. Seems like it's going to be retail, with a new public harbour there. This area used to be an oil-harbor for Fina, I thougt first that maybe it was required to preserve it, but I don't really think so eighter on second thought, because it looks rather new to me...
http://www.mercur.no/arch/_img/9034644.jpg
http://www.mercur.no/arch/_img/9034696.jpg
A detail of the bricks(and some people on a conference for waterpipe/etc workers..)
http://www.mercur.no/arch/_img/9035962.jpg
LatvianGG February 15th, 2005, 10:49 AM Yeah, norwegians are for sure tunnel-freaks ! :weirdo: :D
NorthStar77 February 16th, 2005, 12:09 PM /\ yes, but there is a reason for that ;)
NorthStar77 March 1st, 2005, 06:22 PM Ullevaal to be upgraded
http://fotball.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/00031/ullevaal2_31464a.jpg
The owners of Ullevaal stadium announced today that they want to upgrade it to 30.500 seats, make a roof over the stadium, and put on "artificial grass"(or whatever it is called in english). The new stadium can be finished in 2007 or 2008 already. But they do not want to put on artificial grass yet unless it is done on the national arenas in Denmark and Sweden aswell.
This will be done partially because the football season is now on 11 month, after royal league started. Having artifical grass will also increase the flexibility to use the stadium to other events, like concerts etc.
http://fotball.aftenposten.no/nyhetsarkiv/article.jhtml?articleID=74506
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All trams will get increased frequency
The goverment has an amount of money that they reward to the communes that are best in improving their public transport. Last friday, it was clear that Oslo and Akershus(known as Oslo metro), will get 40 million kroner(5 million euro) of those money this year. It seems to be a broad agreement politically to use much of this money to increase the frequency on all trams-routes to 10 minutes, not just the two routes that had that last year. This means that all the most trafficated tram-tracks will get trams every 5 minute. Trafikkøkonomisk institutt(TØI) has calculated that this will cost 50 millions initially, but increased amount of passengers will make up for it after 2 years.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article977700.ece
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New metro station Sinsen well underway
The most work-intesive period on this station is from now and until may. 91 persons and 9 machines are currently working on it. When this station opens next year, the metro-ring will be complete, and we can brag about having a real metro in Olso:)
From these poor images, it seems like the station will be in the open. But atleast the stairs will be heated, so there will be no ice.
http://www.tbane.no/images/62546.jpg
http://www.tbane.no/images/62548.jpg
http://www.tbane.no/images/62543.jpg
http://www.tbane.no/artikkel2.asp?id=62545
btw, some images of the new metro-cars, that will also come next year.
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/slideshow/10481/0.jpg?1109693505226
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/slideshow/10481/1.jpg?1109693528482
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/slideshow/10481/2.jpg?1109693444786
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/slideshow/10481/3.jpg?1109693453304
NorthStar77 March 7th, 2005, 09:30 PM Nye Major
Majorstua - Oslo inner west
I've written about this before, but now the project have come further, and starts sale 15'th of march, under the name "Nye Major". 300 aparments, I count 8-10 floors. No prices are clear just yet, but I'm sure it's gonna be popular, as it is located right by the metro-station at popular Majorstua.
http://www.exact.no/arch/_img/157732.jpg
http://www.exact.no/arch/_img/157602.jpg
http://www.exact.no/arch/_img/157606.jpg
http://www.exact.no/arch/_img/157604.jpg
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Another, smaller apartments-project
Kyrre Grepp
Torshov - Oslo inner east/north
124 apartments, with a rather boring design, imo. They advertise with a great view though.
http://www.kyrregrepp.no/image/flyfoto.jpg
http://www.kyrregrepp.no/image/fotos/Kyrre-Greppsgate--persp.jpg
http://www.kyrregrepp.no/image/fotos/IMG_0020.jpg
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Experts fear the new apartment-bubble will crack
Aftenposten writes today that 32.000 apartments are under planning in Oslo, and they fear it is too much. Especially for the more costly apartments. But others are not that concerned, and argue that as long as the aparments have a decent price and are central enough, there will never be a problem selling them. This is good news for buyers, as there will be more to choose from among "cheap" new apartments(means under 2 million NOK, or 250.000 euro).
An overview of some of the projects. I've mentioned all of them earlier, except Bjøvika, wich is in the Fjordcity thread.
Lørenbyen: 1500 apartments
Tjuvholmen: 1200 apartments
Qværnerbyen: 1800 apartments
Ensjøbyen: 3000-7000 apartments
Bjørvika: 5000 apartments
Fornebu: 6000 apartments
Grønlandskvartalene: 700 apartments
The entire article, in norwegian: http://forbruker.no/bolig/nybygg/article987716.ece
NorthStar77 March 16th, 2005, 05:48 PM Some good and some bad news...
Upgrading of downtown won't be finished to the big celebration
Since last year, major a renovation and upgrading of downtown Oslo has been taking place, in order to celebrate Norway's 100 years as an independent nation 7'th of june this year. Now there will be chaos in the streets until November, and not until 3'rd of June, thanks to bad planning. Leader of the city council, Erling Lae is outraged, and says that atleast the streets must be free of mess on May 17'th and on 7'th of June.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00268/_A07kaos1503_jpg_268952h.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00268/_A06fosseide1503_jp_268951h.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00269/145253sd032_A04fotg_269168h.jpg
articles in Aftenposten: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article995330.ece
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article996294.ece
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The metro has lost thousands of passengers
After a stoneslide in the tunnel between Carl Berner and Hasle stations on line 5 eastbound, the line was closed for nearly the entire half of last year. Surveys now show that 10% of the passengers on that line in eastern direction, or 6000 daily passengers, have now given up using the line permanetly. Many are now using buses instead, but it is unclear how many that have changed their habit into driving an own car permanently.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00269/145213l009_A07teban_269170h.jpg
Gunhild R. Farstad says she will never give up on the metro
Article in Aftenposten: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article996297.ece
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Ekeberg restaurant reopens this weekend
After having been closed for 8 years, this restaurant in Norway's first funkis building(1927-29), and with Oslo's best view, reopens. It has already got 25.000 reservations!
Here is an article in Swedish, about the importance of this building in nordic funkis arcitecture: http://www.valand.gu.se/konstlab/mike5.html
"Ekebergrestauranten står som modernitetens första brohuvud i Norden där den moderna arkitekturens spann når fram till Landskrona konsthall, uppförd 1963."
Some old pictures of it, from that source:
http://www.valand.gu.se/konstlab/ekeb2.jpg
http://www.valand.gu.se/konstlab/ekeb1.jpg
The view(also old picture:D)
http://www.valand.gu.se/konstlab/ekeb3.jpg
The sad state of the restaurant before renovation:
http://www.valand.gu.se/konstlab/res7.jpg
http://www.valand.gu.se/konstlab/res6.jpg
http://www.valand.gu.se/konstlab/res4.jpg
The view is still spectacular, as you can see, this is some 2-3 years old, before Posthuset got floors added.
http://www.valand.gu.se/konstlab/view.jpg
Some images from the new restaurant, by vg.no
http://blade.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1110637613.2041.jpg
http://blade.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1110637730.30718.jpg
http://blade.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1110637792.56459.jpg
http://blade.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1110637854.02014.jpg
http://blade.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1110638096.51774.jpg
http://blade.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1110639037.98099.jpg
NorthStar77 March 18th, 2005, 12:17 AM Årvollskogen
Oslo north
This is a rather special residential project that is bordering Nordmarka("Northern woods"). The project consists of 303 dwellings, some built in buildings 4-6 floors, and some built as row-houses. There will a shared park in the middle, with playgrounds and a pond. Architects are Jensen & Skodvin Arkitekter.
http://www.bygg.no/Proff/Media/79_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/arvollskogen.jpg
http://www.arvollskogen.no/gfx/oversiktsbilde.jpg
The first stage of this project, with 116 apartments, are soon finished, and already sold out.
http://www.groruddalen.no/getfile.php/157048.639/årvollskogen_sak.jpg
NorthStar77 March 21st, 2005, 10:47 AM I just noticed on my way to tbanen today, that an office-building that is under renovation at Helsfyr, Grenseveien 92, has started adding floors. Found out that they would only add two floors, but atleast it will then be on 12 floors, so another highrise for Oslo, wohoo.
http://tinde.no/pl/image.pl?pfId=1419442
My picture of the building, the leftmost one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/vaalerenga/P1010080.jpg
The view towards downtown from there, highly disturbed by winter-pollution.
http://tinde.no/pl/image.pl?pfId=1419436
When renovated
http://www.akershus-eiendom.no/xp/pub/mx/41445
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Wich remind me of another future highrise at Helsfyr, Helsfyr Atrium. Christian has mentioned it once before, but the bandwith limit on his account on photobucket has been exeeded. This project has been halted for some years due to low interest to rent office there, combined with some new offices beeing built here all the time. But I think we may see this building going up soon. Because I read today that new office-buildings around Helsfyr is now getting full of tenants. And the area has huge potential, since there ae so much public transport here, and only 7 minutes from downtown.
Helsfyr Atrium will be on 38.000 sqm, in 14 floors + 3 underground floors, once it gets up. The people behind the project likes to think of it as the gate in to Oslo city.
This render is made before Helsfyr Panorama came up.
http://www.epi.no/moller/mothavet.jpg
180 degrees
http://www.epi.no/moller/motgardermoen.jpg
http://www.epi.no/moller/fravallehovin.jpg
http://www.lsa.no/3d-work/3d-06.jpg
http://www.epi.no/moller/fraatriet.jpg
http://www.epi.no/moller/kantine.jpg
This is how the first floor will look like, with a cantina, conference centre, shops, etc.
http://www.epi.no/moller/plan1.gif
Moolio March 21st, 2005, 01:35 PM http://www.epi.no/moller/fravallehovin.jpg
http://www.epi.no/moller/mothavet.jpg
*jealousX10*
Why not in Finland? WHY!!?
There's so much going on in Oslo, that pretty soon it'll look twice the city as Helsinki. Oh well, we'll always have Kampin Keskus...That's not much alone, though. :)
NorthStar77 March 21st, 2005, 01:53 PM ^I have to remind you though, that although this building is aproved, it is still not set a date for construction(from what I have found). This is because the office-market around Helsfyr have been rather slow in recent years.
Moolio March 21st, 2005, 02:26 PM ^I have to remind you though, that although this building is aproved, it is still not set a date for construction(from what I have found). This is because the office-market around Helsfyr have been rather slow in recent years.
I bet they will build it, though. With the growth of population of Norway, I think the city of Oslo is going to need more office space, as it is the capital. Even Helsinki gets new offices all the time even though the aging of Finnish population is very real and immediate problem. I read from Helsingin Sanomat newspaper that in the next 40 or 50 years the metro area will get new buildings and renovation projects worth something like € 50 billion (that's a lot more than the State's annual budget). I bet Oslo's projects will be even more expensive.
edit: I think they made the estimate so that they took the expansion of metro and other infrastructural projects as a premise, btw, so not only offices and residenses worth 50 billion.
NorthStar77 March 21st, 2005, 02:33 PM ^True, population growth in Oslo and its surroundings have been over 1% annually the last years. And the office-owners at Helsfyr have faith in the future of the area, and the trend so far is good. Big projects like Helsfyr panorama and Alnafossen Kontorpark is now almost filled with tenants.
Just so you know what I talk about; Alnafossen Kontorpark, finished 2003(i think)
http://www.arkitektur.no/images/0058-1.jpg
http://www.arkitektur.no/images/0058-2.jpg
And Helsfyr panorama, finished 2003(i think)
http://www.ncc.no/upload/no/property_development/pagaende_projekt/Helsfyr%20Panorama/HPfasade(295x407).jpg
Still, there are quite alot of office-buildings that will go up in Bjørvika in the coming years, wich will slow other developements some I think.
Another project at Helsfyr is this combined apartment and office-project, Fyrstikkalléen 21.
http://www.ncc.no/upload/no/property_development/pagaende_projekt/Gronvold%20ny.jpg
Moolio March 21st, 2005, 02:49 PM Still, there are quite alot of office-buildings that will go up in Bjørvika in the coming years, wich will slow other developements some I think.
I doubt it. When modern offices are built, older ones are partially abandoned. If the growth of Oslo really is as steep as you said, Oslo is going to have to take pre-emptive measures, even if it means temporary exceeding of demand. You know, you can't just make up space once the demand exceed the supply. If that happens, you have a new itä-Pasila (;)) at your hands. With the figure you presented, I think the future of Oslo is probably the brightest of all Nordic cities. :okay:
NorthStar77 March 21st, 2005, 03:03 PM With the figure you presented, I think the future of Oslo is probably the brightest of all Nordic cities. :okay: Okay, I won't argue with you there :D
Another project I found just browsing NNC's website was this, Lysaker Brygge E/F, wich is the last stage of a huge developement that has been going of for some years now. Estimates are that it will be finished in the end of 2006. I count 12 floors;)
The only render I could find
http://www.ncc.no/upload/3089/Lysaker-Torg(300x195).gif
Moolio March 21st, 2005, 03:23 PM Man...I'm so jealous. It seems like all new buildings in Oslo are state-of-the-art. That building look SO good. I have to visit Oslo in the (hopefully) near future.
Þróndeimr March 21st, 2005, 03:42 PM Nice, many interesting projects here. And its true, one of my Photobucket accounts (account "Cityq") is down because the monthly bandwith limit on the account has been exeeded. I hope that my account is back on track again in the first week of april. But if you really need to see the images you can just copy the adress to the photo and open it in another window.
And Helsfyr panorama, finished 2003(i think)
Correct, it was completed in march 2003.
NorthStar77 March 31st, 2005, 11:27 PM Grenseveien 92 seems to just get higher and higher! I pass this building every day so, I see the change. And this is now documented by kjetilab, wich is also an editor at Emporis. According to Emporis, it will become 14 floors, while I thought a week ago that it would be 12, and a week before that 11:D
You can see the photos of the developement here(hope it is okay to refer to this, kjetilab): http://www.emporis.com/en/il/pc/?id=232118&aid=19&sro=1&yr=2005&mt=3
Kjetilab, if it was you that acquired this info; how did you get hold of it? My local borettslag, is very interested in more info. Aparently, noone is anwering the phone at the developer. They are quite concerned, but I am not ;) http://www.etterstad.no/index.php?vis=nyhet296
NorthStar77 April 13th, 2005, 01:03 AM Some news:
A possible giant skijump could be decided build next week
Holmenkollen is not top notch anylonger, and now the skiiing-association will decide wheter to build a giant ski-flying hill at Rødkleiva, behind Holmenkollen, or upgrade the existing Vikersund, some 40-50 km from Oslo. Upgrading Vikersund is much cheaper, but building a new hill at Rødkleiva will be more spectacular, and will draw far more spectators, since it is so accessible from the city. But neighbours and others object to a new hill at Rødkleiva.
A render of a possible new hill. Flying 250 meters will not be impossible here.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00270/ferdig6_jpg_a10bakk_270740h.jpg
Source: aftenposten.no
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Figths between politicians may stop major traffic improvements
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00275/_1141658_jpg_275460h.jpg
The current motorway in the western suburb of Sandvika
All over Oslo and Akershus(the two counties making up greater Oslo area), there are important road and public transport projects waiting to be financed.
Oslo-package 3 will be a package of many of these projects, financed by the trafficants and the state(there have been a "Oslopakke" before and "Oslopakke 2" is underway). A total of 31 billion kroner(2,35 billion USD) will be used over a period of 15 years, starting in 2008.
However, the politicians wildly disagrees on what projects to use the money on, and that may eventually lead to no Oslo-package 3 at all. The conservatives in Oslo have stated that without a new westbound motorway, and a new motorway-tunnel southbound, there will be no package. Conservatives in Akershus says the same about a new westbound motorway.
The leftside are against prioritizing "the west-corridor". The new double-track railroad westwards must be finished first, they argue, so that people get used to taking the trains into town, before a new motorway can be built. Besides, it shouldn't only be the westside that get money for roads, Follo and Romerike should get their parts too, they claim.
They disagree on alot of other things too, but I wont bother to write more;) Here is a list showing all the wanted projects. As you can see, they sum up to quite alot more than 31 billions..
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00275/1104oslopakke_275484a.gif
Source: aftenposten.no
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Neighbours object to Ensjø-plans
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00275/_A10tegning1104_jpg_275586h.jpg
Finally, the first plans for Ensjø is revealed. OSOS plans to build 149 apartments in 3 houses on 7 floors. Neighbours, that was originally very positive to the plans, and the aproved regulations, are now now equally negative and disapointed and says that the regulations are broken on several areas on this new project.
First of all, they have increased the floorcount 2 floors, and they have not planned to build traditional city blocks, but separate buildings instead. Exsisting parkinglots and playground have will not be replaced, and the buildings will be nearer eachother than originally allowed. 22 meters vs 31 meters. I must say I agree with the neighbours here. OBOS are too obsessed in traditional thinking, in a 50'ies kind of way(their glory-days), and not too focused on making good urban spaces. They should atleast have made city-blocks, imo.
http://www.obos.no/arch/img.asp?file_id=375969&ext=.jpg&height=0&width=170&resize=true
Source: aftenposten.no and obos.no
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And while we are at it; Økern Torgvei at Oslo east.
Another housing-project by OBOS, with 300 apartments in 9 buildings.
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/292786.jpg
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Last news for me today:
Oslo had its biggest growth in population since 1946 last year
Oslo city had 529 846 people at 1.st of january this year. That is an increase on 7 960 people, wich is 1.5%. A large share of the growth happens because of more people moving in, and this again comes from increased number of apartments beeing built.
Oslo had 28% of the entire population growth in Norway last year. If we include Akershus, it was 47% of the growth. The population in Akershus grew by 1.1%.
Baby-boom
It's not only people moving in that contributes to population growth. Oslo had more than 8 000 child births last year, one of the biggest numbers since 1946. This is partially because Oslo has alot of women in fertile age now.
Oslo's annual population growth, since 1990:
1990: 3280
1991: 5797
1992: 6013
1993: 4327
1994: 5620
1995: 5258
1996: 6134
1997: 4900
1998: 3174
1999: 4600
2000: 1259
2001: 3863
2002: 4812
2003: 4485
2004: 7960
Parzival April 13th, 2005, 03:45 AM Okey, Oslo isn't known to be a highrise city, but I've to say they got scandinavia's greatest skyline. They got two highrises that are side by side.
NorthStar77 April 13th, 2005, 08:56 AM ^And there will soon be more;)
tournesol April 13th, 2005, 10:31 AM Woauw! That some heavy infrastructural investments you've got planned for Oslo. :okay:
Over how many years are all this to be build?
NorthStar77 April 13th, 2005, 10:43 AM Woauw! That some heavy infrastructural investments you've got planned for Oslo. :okay:
Over how many years are all this to be build?
Not all will be built, since the costs of these projects are on 45-50 billions, and the total amount of money in Oslopakke 3 will be "only" 31 billions. There is alot at stake here. If you want to read more, see
this (http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article1014465.ece) article, and this (http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kommentarer/article1015468.ece) comment.
It all have a timeframe on 15 years, starting in 2008, so it won't be finished until 2023 or so. Therefore, what will not make it into Oslopakke 3, will not be built for decades to come. So, again, there is ALOT at stake!
Þróndeimr April 23rd, 2005, 02:46 PM - Oslo trenger et signalbygg
Oslo trenger et spektakulært signalbygg for å lokke til seg arkitekturinteresserte. Det mener Oslo Promotion, som skal markedsføre hovedstaden for turister.
Oslo Promotion er positive til ideen om å lansere Oslo til europeisk arkitekturhovedstad, som norske arkitekter vil foreslå. Men da trenger Oslo et skikkelig signalbygg, mener Tor Sannerud, administrerende direktør i Oslo Promotion.
- Man må bestemme seg i forkant om man vil bygge noe som er så spektakulært at det gir internasjonal gjenklang.
Et signalbygg kan defineres som et bygg som er et landemerke i en by og som du kjenner igjen en by ved. Sannerud mener at operabygget som bygges i Bjørvika ikke er det signalbygget Oslo trenger.
- Men det er Operaen i Sydney og Snøhettas bibliotek i Alexandria. Det er bygg som etter en stund blir stående på egne ben uten noe stedsnavn knyttet til seg, og allikevel vet man hvor dette er.
Nye bygg
Det er ikke først for fremst bygningene som allerede eksisterer som altså skal lokke turistene til Oslo. Det er alt som skal bygges i hovedstaden de neste 10-15 årene. Nesten én million kvadratmeter spredt ut over hele byfjorden fra øst til vest skal bygges ut.
Det er allerede store internasjonale arkitektnavn inne i bildet, som Renzo Piano på Tjuvholmen, Rem Koolhaas på Vestbanen, Wini Maas i Bjørvika hvor også vår egen Kjetil Trædal Thorsen og Snøhetta bygger operaen.
Erling Lae, byrådsleder i Oslo, er helt uenig i at den nye operaen i Bjørvika ikke er et godt nok signalbygg. Han mener man ikke trenger å bygge enda et signalbygg.
- Hvis Sydney-operaen er identitetskapende for Sydney, så er jammen den nye operaen identitetskapende for Oslo, sier Lae.
Han er svært positiv til arkitektenes ønske om å gjøre Oslo til en europeisk arkitekturhovedstad.
- Vi har jo muligheter for å koble dette til søknaden om Oslo som kulturby. Vi kan forme den nye byen uten at det skjer på bekostning av det eksisterende.
Erling Fossen, kjent som urbanist, har ikke tro på Oslo som arkitekturhovedstad.
- Det har ikke vært kultur i Oslo for å bry seg om arkitektur. Når en ser på de byggene som er bygget i det siste, så er sjansen veldig stor for at man bare får standard «Epa-arkitektur» framover. Det eneste bygget som peker seg ut, og som det derfor har vært mye bråk om, er det nye biblioteket på Vestbanen.
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In English:
- Oslo needs a signalbuilding
Oslo needs a signalbuilding sais Tor Sannerud, administrative manager in Oslo Promotion. If Oslo want to become a a architectural capital in Europe it needs a spectacular signal building which will become international as the opera is Sydney or the library in Alexandria. He sais the new opera building is not the signal building Oslo needs to draw attention. Oslo need something more, and this is the opportunity. Famous architect firms as Renzo Piano, Rem Koolhaas, Snøhetta is already apart of the fjordcity project, and several other architect firms is involved.
kjetilab April 24th, 2005, 02:17 AM Hi NorthStar77.
Obtaining the information about Grenseveien 92 was quite easy. Some of it I found on the construction site(on a large poster) and the rest at the Plan og Bygningsetaten in Vahls gate 1:) The correct number of floors is 13 according to what I found.
I've been a couple of times on Helsfyr lately to check out status for Helsfyr Atrium and Grenseveien 92, and since my father works in Helsfyr Panorama, I can get some good photos from there..:)
And feel free to refer to any picture I've taken on Emporis. Just nice that someone is interrested..:)
Parzival April 24th, 2005, 02:53 AM Is chevy a common car in Norway? American cars, are they popular?
Þróndeimr April 24th, 2005, 04:21 PM I've been a couple of times on Helsfyr lately to check out status for Helsfyr Atrium and Grenseveien 92,
Do you know more about when the construction might start? The construction of commercial buildings is supose to increase a lot this year so might we see construction to start this year or 2006? :)
kjetilab April 25th, 2005, 01:14 PM I have no idea. The project have been postphoned a lot of times, and I haven't seen any activity on the construction site yet. But Helsfyr Atrium looks really cool, so I hope they start soon. No info about when they will start on their homepages either...
Þróndeimr April 25th, 2005, 01:29 PM I have no idea. The project have been postphoned a lot of times, and I haven't seen any activity on the construction site yet. But Helsfyr Atrium looks really cool, so I hope they start soon. No info about when they will start on their homepages either...
Ok, i was incontact with the owners in 2003, but they said the construction has been cancelled for 2003/2004. But thats a long time ago now. :)
NorthStar77 April 26th, 2005, 01:50 AM Looking forward for some photos from Helsfyr Panorama, kjetilab.
I was out taking some contruction-pics myself today, of highrises under contruction. You'll have to bear with the extraordinary sharp and low sunlight.
Grenseveien 92
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010005.jpg
Then a few of Waldemars hage, wich I started this thread with. It is supposed to be 12 towers on 12 floors when it's finished, 6 of them in first construction phase. I could only count 11 floors on the 2 that was topped out though. Again I apology for the sun, and all the trees that came in my way.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010011.jpg
Doesn't look tall at all from the other side. But those are not topped out yet either.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010012.jpg
Keysersgate 13. Opened about a month ago. Only 11 floors, but 47 meters. Some sort of court building.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010037.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010038.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010039.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010044.jpg
I made a bunch of other photos today, wich I will throw into a thread another day.
Þróndeimr April 26th, 2005, 09:25 AM Wow great images NS. :okay: Nice to see Waldemars hage, didn't know the construction has gone so far yet.
kjetilab April 27th, 2005, 08:16 PM Nice pictures NorthStar77:)
The sun is difficult to do anything about:)
Some pictures of the inside of Helsfyr Panorama here: http://www.emporis.com/en/il/pc/?id=138279&aid=8
Pictures of Strømsveien 131 and Statens kontorbygg taken from Helsfyr Panorama here:
http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=349430
and here: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=165724
Got to check out Waldemars Hage again soon.
sander April 27th, 2005, 08:38 PM Nice pics. I didn`t know that Oslo has such dense and modern looking district. Because I hadn`t seen one before. ;)
skog April 28th, 2005, 06:33 AM Is chevy a common car in Norway? American cars, are they popular?
Some people drive american cars. Some workers like carpenters and bricklayers use the pick-up ones. And ofcourse we have a few of the ghastly SUV's.
NorthStar77 April 28th, 2005, 09:07 AM Thanks for your nice comments:)
Nice pics. I didn`t know that Oslo has such dense and modern looking district. Because I hadn`t seen one before. ;)
This is not the only district like that;) There are other places downtown, wich I haven't photographed. And outside downtown, there are several. I made a thread about Skøyen a long time ago. And I should make one of Nydalen too. Up there it's all fresh and new!
Oberleutnant April 28th, 2005, 11:58 AM I don't post here nearly as often as I should (I frequently keep an eye on this thread, however). NorthStar and Christian - thanks! Keysersgate 13 is a great piece of architecture, everything from choice of facade materials to design shows that. Basically, it could be built next to some busy street in London and it wouldn't need to be ashamed.
NorthStar77 May 18th, 2005, 07:46 PM Took some pictures of Sjølyststranda today to keep you updated. Christian wrote about it in post 13 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=2077607&postcount=13). Much of the 10 floor buildings are now getting topped out, as you can see.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010085.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010086.jpg
And it seem like they have done some preparations for the tower, that was originally thought to be 25 floors, but was lowered to 12 after influencial NIMBY-activists.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010087.jpg
I was going to take more photos from the ground, but it started hailing heavily when I got of the train at Skøyen. So all I got was these, from under roof at the elevated station. For the same reason I skipped taking some construction photos of the new opera, wich was topped out at 45 meters here the other day.
kjetilab May 19th, 2005, 01:14 AM Nice pics.
Looking forward to the construction of the office building. At the projects homepages it was nothing about construction start though....
A few facts: The residential building will have up to 11 floors and gain a maximum height of 28.68 metres:):)
NorthStar77 May 20th, 2005, 02:19 PM Today there are big rows for each new building that is beeing put up. Usually there are conflicts regarding heights, adjustment to local styles of each area, and preservation. The planning and building authorities now wants to get things sorted out once and for all, to minimize all the conflicts.
- We're hoping to find the right balance between preserving heritage and make room for new developements, says chief of city planning, Ellen de Vibe.
Not only areas with old buildings will be preserved, but also areas with newer buildings.
This shows what areas are to be preserved.
Dark blue = areas stricly regulated by own plans.
Light blue = areas where the existing street and building-structures is to be taken into consideration when building new.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00286/1905bevaring_286109a.gif
My opinion is that this looks good. Oslo has so many different areas with their own distinct charm, and that must be preserved. This plan covers all the most important areas. But I would like to see Rodeløkka and parts of Kampen and Vålerenga marked with dark blue on that map. And I'm a bit uncertain why Ila-dalen is considered that important.
At the same time, it doesn't make the entire city into a museum. New development may be easier at those non-blue areas.
article in norwegian here: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article1041643.ece
Gatis May 20th, 2005, 02:42 PM I dream about similar plan for Riga. Now we have five monument protection areas and some 5 000 state protected monuments. But in reality there are much more than 5 areas which need some conservation. While in most other areas investors could build something new and beautiful. If city would make exact map - it would make the environment here more business-friendly with more clear rules of the game.
NiceGuy May 20th, 2005, 07:21 PM It is good to have a plan like this, although I don't agree 100% with the map. Tøyen, Kampen and Sinsen are not worth preserving at all. I wouldn't mind if they bulldozed it down to the ground. The only areas of Grünerløkka that should be preserved are those that are dark blue on the map. I also think that everything between Majorstuen and Frogner should be light blue.
This is what the map should look like:
http://img273.echo.cx/img273/4462/1905bevaring28610921nt.gif
NorthStar77 May 23rd, 2005, 10:19 AM Tøyen, Kampen and Sinsen are not worth preserving at all. I wouldn't mind if they bulldozed it down to the ground. The only areas of Grünerløkka that should be preserved are those that are dark blue on the map.
I disagree vehemently on that! Have you ever been at Rodeløkka?? That must be the most unique wooden area in entire Oslo. It can compete with "Sørlandsbyene" at our southern coast even.
Or Kampen? Or the characteristical Torshov?? :crazy: And what is so special about the entire Majorstua area that you want to add on the map? I know alot of ugly uninteresting buildings there too.
Bogstadveien/Hegdehaugsveien, that you want preserved:
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/27483060.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/27483055.jpg
Kampen, that you wants destroyed.(sorry for the bad photo-quality)
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26564760.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26564753.jpg
Rodeløkka
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/carlberner/P1010031.jpg
Torshov
http://www.hist.uib.no/antikk/eftertid/norge/torshov002.jpg
http://www.nrk.no/img/333056.jpeg
http://www.nrhf.no/bilde-soriamoria.JPG
May I ask if you are from western parts of Oslo? It is just so typical of people from western Oslo to think that everything east of Akerselva is ugly. Many of them have never even dared to visit inner Oslo east, because they think it's scary, lol.
NiceGuy May 23rd, 2005, 03:04 PM NorthStar77
The wooden houses you are referring to at Kampen and Rodeløkka where considered slums when they were built, and I don't see why slums should be preserved (even if it is old). Do you think that South American countries will spend resources on preserving their slums when they get rich? Besides, I have kept Vålerenga and parts of Gamlebyen light blue so you have nothing to complain about.
I colored all of Majorstuen light blue because I think that new buildings should match the old ones in the area, but it does not mean that every single building is preserved. Some of the existing buildings there are quite ugly as well, but this does not change the overall impression of the area.
NorthStar77 May 23rd, 2005, 04:03 PM So what if it were considered a slum 100 years ago? That makes it even more special. Other countries are also preserving parts of what have been slum before. You don't have to go to Latin America to see that, you only need to go to Vilnius for example. And what they are doing in Latin America has no relevance to what we choose to preserve here anyway.
I've lived right by Rodeløkka for 2 1/2 years. Going in there from Trondheimsveien is like stepping into another world, it's taking a break from the noisy big city. Anyone with their head on the right place that has actually been at Rodeløkka can't possibly mean that it should be bulldozed! I don't see what is so special with Majorstua. I'd rather have it bulldozed to the ground than to see a single house at Rodeløkka beeing destroyed. Infact, I think some residential skyscrapers would fit nice around Majorstu-krysset.
Torshov is also very special and unique area, atleast in Norway. Taking that away from the map, while adding all of Majorstua is absurd. Some pictures from Torshov, taken from finn.no.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/2_-756100551.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/2_-1857628455.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/3_-1497243374.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/4_252636349.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/ptorshov250509012051432_25050901.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/ptorshov250509720051432_25050971.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/ptorshov250509720051432_250509710.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/9_1996223979.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/9_-28380104.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/aes02040507712051329_4050771.jpg
Your suggestion would never go through, wich I'm glad for.
Jarmo K May 23rd, 2005, 05:05 PM that's really something worth preserving... (:
kjetilab May 23rd, 2005, 07:30 PM I totally agree with you NorthStar. Torshov, and expessially the quartes around Hegermanns plass is well worth preserving.
Þróndeimr May 25th, 2005, 10:12 PM Reconstruction of a residential building in Nydalen
Gunnar Schjelderups vei - Nydalen
MAD architects is behind a proposed reconstruction of some 5 and 6 floor tall residential buildings in Nydalen.
Today:
http://alpha.apcom.no/mad/img/projects/70_221_large_gsv-foer-stor.jpg
In the future:
http://alpha.apcom.no/mad/img/projects/70_220_large_gsv-stor.jpg
Þróndeimr May 25th, 2005, 10:21 PM Reconstruction of a office building in Frysja
Proposed reconstruction of a 8 floor tall office building from the 60s. MAD architects propose to reconstruct the building in to residential use, and with adding 4 floor on topp of the current 8 floors which make the building 12 story tall.
http://alpha.apcom.no/mad/img/projects/66_210_large_fry1.jpg
Þróndeimr May 25th, 2005, 10:26 PM Stiftelsen Betanien Hovedkvarter
MAD architects with reconstruction and expansion of Stiftelsen Betanien Hovedkvarter. The project is supose to be under construction by now.
http://66.221.173.116/wwwimg/bet-fasader.gif
http://66.221.173.116/wwwimg/rin-ute2.jpg
http://66.221.173.116/wwwimg/rin-ute.jpg
skog May 26th, 2005, 04:25 PM Some updated pictures of the Bislett stadion:
http://www.kultur-og-idrettsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/getfile.php/kultur-%20og%20idrettsetaten/Internett/Bilder/Maskin%20ruller%20ut%20gress%20%28300x225%29.jpg
http://www.kultur-og-idrettsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/getfile.php/kultur-%20og%20idrettsetaten/Internett/Bilder/oversikt%20halvveis%20%28300x225%29.jpg
http://www.kultur-og-idrettsetaten.oslo.kommune.no/getfile.php/kultur-%20og%20idrettsetaten/Internett/Bilder/Oversikt%20hele%20%28300x225%29.jpg
Þróndeimr May 26th, 2005, 06:14 PM Utsiktstoppen
Hasleveien 26 - Grünerløkka
I was completly sure i've seen this project on ssc or in this thread before, but after a hour of searching i never found it here. So then i guess i gotta present it here.
Utsiktstoppen is a residential project in Grünerløkka. The building will be 12 floors tall, or 33m (emporis.com). The current status is either approved or under construction. The tower is expected to be completed in the spring 2006.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Oslo%20city%20archive/UtsiktstoppenKart.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Oslo%20city%20archive/Utsiktstoppen1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Oslo%20city%20archive/Utsiktstoppen2.jpg
NorthStar77 May 26th, 2005, 09:12 PM ^ It sucks that the search function has been disabled:(
I knew that there was plans for a highrise there, and I believe it was supposed to be 16 floors originally, but I was certain it had been modified into either Startbo terrasser or Sukkertoppen, as described here (http://skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=2340213&postcount=65).
But maybe this was the tower that was supposed to be 16 floors? I have never seen it before, thanks for bringing it up Christian. I can't say I like it though. It looks like a monster.
@ skog: thanks for the photos from Bislett:)
NorthStar77 May 26th, 2005, 09:49 PM Kyss frosken (kiss the frog)
Nasjonalmuseet, Tullinløkka
Tullinløkka is a very central place in the middle of Oslo, between the national museum and the national gallery, that have been debated over for more than a century(not kidding). So up until now it has been nothing more than a parking-lot. Now this summer, the national museum(for art, arcitecture and design) is putting up a giant inflatable "frog", wich will host an different exhibits. It opens this week as I've understood it. AFAIK, Tullinløkkas further destiny is still unclear.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/Kyssfrosken.jpg
Here you can see it under construction
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00282/Frosken_p__Tullinnl_282889h.jpg
The building next to the frog, wich was also built this spring, originally used timber from the brazilian rainforest, wich they were heavily critizised for, naturally. The timber was removed, as it was also illegal.
NorthStar77 May 26th, 2005, 10:13 PM Agreement on Oslo-package 3
Local politicians from the Conservatives, Christian people's party and Liberals from Oslo and Akershus have now come to an agreement on wich transport-projects that should be included in the so called "Oslopakke 3".
The timespan of the projects are from 2008 to 2028, and have a total cost of 38 billion NOK(4,75 billion euros).
This means among other things:
*10 billions to the "west-corridor". A 6-lane motorway-tunnel between Skøyen in Oslo to Asker, roughly some 15 kilometers long. It will be built sort of under the existing motorway.
*18,2 billions will go to public transport. This means Homansbyen metrostation can be realized, and the metro-tunnel between Majorstua and Nationaltheateret from 1928 can be widened.
The 3 parties will now negotioate with either Labour, Socialist left, or Progress party to make a final agreement.
Article in norwegian: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article1047007.ece
Þróndeimr May 27th, 2005, 12:37 AM ^ It sucks that the search function has been disabled:(
I knew that there was plans for a highrise there, and I believe it was supposed to be 16 floors originally, but I was certain it had been modified into either Startbo terrasser or Sukkertoppen, as described here (http://skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=2340213&postcount=65).
But maybe this was the tower that was supposed to be 16 floors? I have never seen it before, thanks for bringing it up Christian. I can't say I like it though. It looks like a monster.
I can't say im a freat fan of it either, but i think its gonna get a alright building, though i hope they don't make the mistake in getting the building to gray and dark, which really don't fit the area which is full of old and really ugly 4-5 floor tall terraced houses.
NorthStar77 May 27th, 2005, 01:28 AM I can't say im a freat fan of it either, but i think its gonna get a alright building, though i hope they don't make the mistake in getting the building to gray and dark, which really don't fit the area which is full of old and really ugly 4-5 floor tall terraced houses.
Hmm, I guess we have different taste, because I used to live in one of those red-brick houses. And they may be not extremely beautiful, but I think they are quite okay actually. Like this I took 1 1/2 year ago.
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/25493511/medium.jpg
Except for the buildings in Trondheimsveien north of Carl Berner, they are rather gray thanks to all the exhaust.
skog May 27th, 2005, 02:21 AM This means among other things:
*10 billions to the "west-corridor". A 6-lane motorway-tunnel between Skøyen in Oslo to Asker, roughly some 15 kilometers long. It will be built sort of under the existing motorway.
6 lanes?
The old road on top has 4 lanes (sometimes 8) and it is heavily congested already. It is the busiest stretch of road in the country and is completely clogged every day.
The best would be to keep the topside road and run it in one direction, and have all the 6 lanes in the tunnel go the other. But i understand that they want to have a local road on top instead.
I think is very typical of road planning in this country. They build things too small, so when they're done building something after spending years and years planning, its already too small.
Also interesting to note that the "temporary" toll booths that were supposed to go away after 1997 will be kept AFTER 2008. No surprise though.
NorthStar77 May 27th, 2005, 09:47 AM I think is very typical of road planning in this country. They build things too small, so when they're done building something after spending years and years planning, its already too small.
Yup, that is very typical. But the existing motorway will remain, so this new one will come in addition, with roundabouts and all that. The existing road will then serve as more of a local-road. Otherwise, if the existing motorway were to be demolished, the entire project would be very pointless.
You can read all about it here: http://www.vegvesen.no/prosjekter/vestkorridoren/
Here are some illustrations of the planned westcorridor(or rather, how the old road will look like):
Lysaker and westwards
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/Perovny6.jpg
More detailed, eastern part of Lysaker, including an upgraded train-station, and new officebuildings
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/PerLyterm.jpg
Western part of Lysaker
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/PerLykr.jpg
West of Lysaker
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/Perdagny.jpg
Ramstadsletta eastwards
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/perram1.jpg
Ramstadsletta towards Sandvika
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/perram2.jpg
Høvik westwards
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/perhovi2.jpg
Some maps
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/framnesfornebukart.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/forneburamstadslettakart.jpg
Gatis May 27th, 2005, 10:35 AM In this world of computer renderings these drawings look excellent. Although... it is possible that even those are made with computer (f.e. Corel Painter can do it - I learned it too ;)
And the road reconstruction looks cool. We can only dream about similar scale here, may be in five years time, not earlier.
NorthStar77 May 27th, 2005, 10:48 AM And the road reconstruction looks cool. We can only dream about similar scale here, may be in five years time, not earlier.
I'm not sure when the construction of this road will start, but it will take atleast 3 years. And it is not even 100% certain it will be built at all yet(although it is highly needed - the current motorway has a traffic of 100.000 cars a day).
skog May 27th, 2005, 06:24 PM Notice how they make all the renderings as green as possible. I guess that's political correctness :)
Þróndeimr May 27th, 2005, 07:08 PM Notice how they make all the renderings as green as possible. I guess that's political correctness :)
Yeah, btw did you see the 21.00 news on TV2 yesterday, about the bad weather and salesment of apartments in Bergen?
I took a search in finn.no /after i saw the TV2 clips, check this out:
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/realestate/em1bergen/em1bergen10502331105023301_1-b.jpg
http://att.emprof.no/output/SpVest/ORG/10502221.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/realestate/em1bergen/em1bergen10502261105022601_2-b.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/realestate/em1bergen/em1bergen10500821105008201_2-b.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/realestate/em1bergen/em1bergen10502271105022701_3-b.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/realestate/em1bergen/em1bergen10501871105018701_2-b.jpg
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/realestate/em1bergen/em1bergen10501871105018715_1-b.jpg
Same building, different angel.
Noticed something? (all is from Bergen)
Sorry, but i don't think this has much to do about development in Oslo! ;)
skog May 27th, 2005, 09:55 PM Rain in Bergen? :eek2:
Þróndeimr May 27th, 2005, 10:42 PM Rain in Bergen? :eek2:
See the clouds on the images? Their all the same! They had to do it because its rarely blue sky there they said, though thats not true! ;)
skog May 28th, 2005, 01:03 AM See the clouds on the images? Their all the same! They had to do it because its rarely blue sky there they said, though thats not true! ;)
I can see some blue sky in between the rain clouds... :sly:
Þróndeimr May 28th, 2005, 01:07 AM I can see some blue sky in between the rain clouds... :sly:
Yes, actually those are not rainclouds. But they had problems taking images of apartments in Bergen without rainclouds. Thats why they added nice weather clouds and partly clear sky in many of the images to make them look more exotic and attractive. :)
Morten M May 28th, 2005, 01:25 AM The wooden houses you are referring to at Kampen and Rodeløkka where considered slums when they were built, and I don't see why slums should be preserved (even if it is old). Do you think that South American countries will spend resources on preserving their slums when they get rich? Besides, I have kept Vålerenga and parts of Gamlebyen light blue so you have nothing to complain about.
In many cities all over the world has old "working class" areas been through modernization and has become exspensive and attractive. You don't have to travel to South America to see that, just go to Stockholm, Copenhagen, Paris and all other big cities in europe.
And the price for those wodden houses are probebly very high.
NorthStar77 May 30th, 2005, 09:17 AM Notice how they make all the renderings as green as possible. I guess that's political correctness :)
If you think that was too green, wait until you see this:D
http://www.vegvesen.no/prosjekter/vestkorridoren/gfx/748-Vestkorridoren_800w.gif
skog May 30th, 2005, 03:44 PM Looks like they will demolish Bærum and build GOLF COURSES! :lol:
NorthStar77 June 2nd, 2005, 11:49 PM Edit: see here (http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=4332624#post4332624) instead.
ch1le June 2nd, 2005, 11:58 PM nice! Reminds me of some parts of Tallinn coastal area development, ive been planning to make a thread about it for a long time now, but in shortage of Renders and information... i cant do 1 :( ...
Þróndeimr June 3rd, 2005, 12:10 AM Nice, perhaps that one fit more in the Fjordcity thread though! ;) But thise apartment buildings there looks really strange and unique!
NorthStar77 June 3rd, 2005, 12:48 AM Nice, perhaps that one fit more in the Fjordcity thread though! ;) But thise apartment buildings there looks really strange and unique!
Arrg! How whimsy is it possible to get?? What is with me today? First all the mess with the thread I started earlier today, and now this! I was supposed to post it in the fjordcity thread, but for some mysterious reason, I managed to post it here...
I'll cut'npaste it into the fjordcity thread instead.
NorthStar77 June 15th, 2005, 09:15 PM After two years of debates, hearings, and study-trips, the politicians in Oslo are deciding once and for all to ban all new buildings over 42 meters, or 12 floors this evening. The exception is Bjørvika, where buildings up to 19 floors will be allowed.
The planning and building authorities recomended 20 floors as a general limit, and 30 floors in certain areas. But the politicians have done the mistake to go against professional recomandations based on facts, and let emotions make their decisions.
-We've got clear input from people thinking of Oslo as a low and dense city(uhhh, compared to what?). This is important for Oslo's identity, and we want to preserve that, says Rina Brunsell Harsvik from Labour, that has been leading the workgroup that has treated the issue for a year now.
She makes it clear that there has been alot of discussions, also internally in the parties. - But we've managed to come to an agreement.
Aftenposten suggests that Oslo may become an old-fashioned city because of this, but she thinks that one don't need highrises to show that you are modern and innovative.
"Sculptural towers" will still be allowed. - A 70 meter high tower is planned for Tjuvholmen, and we would like to see more, she says.
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article1060120.ece
Aftenposten brings some examples on what would not be allowed if these rules had been implemented earlier. These are some of them.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/_1118279_jpg_294197u.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/_A04royal1506_jpg_294144g.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/BARNERANERE__A04osl_294142g.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/_A04shell1506_2_jpg_294146g.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/_A04siloen1506_2_jp_294147g.jpg
NorthStar77 June 16th, 2005, 09:24 AM Yet another industrial building turns into apartments
115 apartments are now beeing sold in an old warehouse at Akerselva near Grønland. The warehouse is from 1897. The apartments are extremely flexible, buyers can buy everything from 40 sqmeters up to an entire floor, or apartments over two floors, and the construction of the apartments are done acordingly. For that reason, the number of apartments have gone down from 128 originally. 13 of the 50 that has bought so far have used the oportunity to get an apartment on two floors.
From aftenposten.no
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/147094sd093_BM04bro_294390h.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/147094sd093_BM04vin_294391h.jpg
There will be a 750 sqmeter terrace on top, accessible by all who lives there.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/147094sd093_BM04tak_294393h.jpg
source: http://forbruker.no/bolig/boligmarkedet/article1060752.ece
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New HQ for Aker decided
Kjell Inge Røkke will gather all the activities in Aker in the Oslo area in a new building at Fornebu. The new HQ will cost 1 billion nok(120 million euro), and will be located next to the Telenor building. In those 1 billions are also the purchase of the land from Telenor, costing 150 million nok.
Around 2100 employees will be gathered in the new building. It will open in the end of 2007/ beginning of 2008.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00293/_M80festning1506_jp_293942h.jpg
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1059779.ece
Gatis June 16th, 2005, 01:02 PM Ops - they did it again (about politicians in Oslo)! Not only Latvian politicians are stupid and shortsighted
skog June 16th, 2005, 08:48 PM Ops - they did it again (about politicians in Oslo)! Not only Latvian politicians are stupid and shortsighted
It's not about stupidity, it's about politics. The professionals recommend higher buildings, but its not politically correct.
Þróndeimr June 17th, 2005, 09:22 AM Banning high-rise buildings, what are they thinking. :(
NorthStar77 June 17th, 2005, 09:41 AM "Festung Munch" opens
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/147575a251_m46hoved_294777h.jpg
The Munch museum now reopens after having upgraded their security. Now the security is like on an international airport; metal-detectors, x-ray survey, hidden and visible cameras, and bulletproof glass.
The entrance and exit will be located on different locations, the pictures will be covered by bulletproof glass and bolted to the wall. The new museum is also fire-proof, with new fire-secure doors, and walls and floors have been replaced by fire-proof materials. It's also installed an aircondition-system for the paintings, to avoid that they'll deteriorate.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/147575a251_m46bolte_294774h.jpg
http://www.aftenposten.no/kul_und/article1061551.ece
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Giant kindergarden to open
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/147410a236_A06sykeh_294591u.jpg
The goverment has promised a place in a kindergarden for all children, and parts of baby-booming Oslo is having severe trouble to fulfill this promise. The construction of kindergardens can not manage to keep up with the ever growing population of small ones.
Therefore, the boroughs Sagene, Grünerløkka, Nordre Aker and St. Hanshaugen have rented the old hospital Sophies Minde for 18 months, and in October a kindergarden for 300-400 children will open here.
The building is on 8000 sqm, and the outdoor area is on 14.000 sqm. Some are sceptical to this as they are afraid of a "kindergarden-ghetto", but others see advantages, as the big park outside, a gymnastic-room and so on.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/147410a273_A06plane_294587h.jpg
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article1061157.ece
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New BI finished
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/_A18bibygget1606_jp_294603u.jpg
The gargantual building that will gather all the activities of BI(economy college/university like) in the Oslo region, is now finished.
The building is on 94.000 sqm, and will have 8.000 students. The first thing that meets you when you enter this glass-palace, is a coffebar with 1500 seats. The library is on 6500 sqm and has 46 grouprooms and 1200 seats. There are 20 auditorium, with 3800 seats, 1287 seats in classrooms. There's also a workout-facility on 2500 sqm.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00294/_A18interioer1606_j_294601h.jpg
http://www.aftenposten.no/utdannelse/article1061180.ece
BI's english pages: http://www.bi.no/templates/StartPageEN____13111.aspx#
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Mixed reactions on the new highrise-law
To someones surprise, architects are positive to the law. While urbanist Erling Fossen, leader of the local-party "Oslo-listen", and leader of "Oslo Byforum", don't understand why there should be such a restrictive law. -How height influence the surrounding area differs completely from place to place, he says. And he also thinks this law threathens the diversity of Oslo. -It's a very rigid system for a city that grows fast, he says.
Chief of the planning and buildingauthorities, Ellen de Vibe, says she would have wanted more variation in the law, but thinks it's positive that they atleast have clear signals to work after. Aftenposten asks if wheter she thinks it will be little space left with this law, but she says that developers can still propose buildings over 12 floors, but getting them aproved is another matter.. And the developers have already "got the picture". As far as she knows, there are no proposals higher than 12 floors at the moment.
Articles: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article1061172.ece
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article1061171.ece
debate on aftenposten's forum: http://debatt.aftenposten.no/Item.asp?GroupID=97&Group=Oslo&ThreadID=121747&Thread=Maks+42+m+h%F8ye+hus+tillates+i+Oslo#1520625
Moolio June 17th, 2005, 11:21 AM http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00293/_M80festning1506_jp_293942h.jpg
The future HQ of the evil Kjell Inge Rokke to rule over poor Finnish shipyards. EEEEEVIL! :D But honestly, I really like the building. Diagonal and curvy designs are often more dynamic somehow than boxier ones.
Where is Forneby, btw? Is it far from downtown Oslo?
NorthStar77 June 17th, 2005, 11:33 AM http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00293/_M80festning1506_jp_293942h.jpg
The future HQ of the evil Kjell Inge Rokke to rule over poor Finnish shipyards. EEEEEVIL! :D But honestly, I really like the building. Diagonal and curvy designs are often more dynamic somehow than boxier ones.
Where is Forneby, btw? Is it far from downtown Oslo?
Hehe, evil? I think he is far from evil, just look at what he did with the shipyard in Philadelphia for example ;)
It's Fornebu, and it's located some 7 km outside the city centre, in the municipal of Bærum. It's where the airport was located before. Take a look at this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=2405673&postcount=75) post if you want to read more about the developements at Fornebu.
NorthStar77 June 17th, 2005, 01:43 PM Ops - they did it again (about politicians in Oslo)! Not only Latvian politicians are stupid and shortsighted
Unfortunately, most politicians everywhere is stupid and shorsighted. We have a saying here: Vi får de politikerne vi fortjener, wich means "We get the politicians we deserve".
It is shortsighted for many reasons I think. Oslo area is having half of the total population-growth in Norway, and the preassure on land is already high as it is. Living-costs are, as you know, quite high too, thanks to this preassure.
Politicians have taken the consequences of this, and in 2001 they decided that there should be built 40.000 apartments within 2015. This would lead to the preassure on Oslo to not get higher, but remain as high as now. But more recent population-prognosis show that Oslo is growing faster than earlier estimated, so the preassure will continue to rise whatsoever, even more apartments are needed.
There was a debate on how to do this, and the alternatives were as follows:
* Build in the preserved forests: this was the most unlikely alternative, as these forests are holy to Oslo-people.
* Building upwards: highly unpopular by some, but popular by some
* Doing serious efforts in urban innfills/densification: what we sort of ended up with. Planners said there were quite alot of place to build even quite central. However, this affects quality of life for many, as parks and playgrounds are turned into apartment-complexes.
So now, I think there are little doubt that there will be built 40.000 apartments within 2015, maybe even more. But what happens after 2015 then? One can't continue to build innfills forever, and the increase in population is certainly not gonna stop. If we look the medium population prognosis from Statistics Norway, our country will increase its population with 750.000 people from 2015-2050. It is very unlikely that the centralisation around Oslo will stop, so 350.000-400.000 of these people will live in the Oslo area.
So where do we want these people to live? If we don't look at the possibility of people living in highrises centrally located, like in Vancouver for example, the alternative will have to be that they settle in the suburbs. That will mean an increase of the suburban population by around 70%! That alternative is simply not sustainable. If we look at current driving pattern, it is revealed that people in Oslo city drive least car in all of Norway, while those who live in Oslo's suburbs drive most. So that means a nearly doubleing of the population that by far drive the most. The increased traffic that this will result in, will strangle the whole area, and require enormous investments in infrastructure.
Not to mention a possible future energy crizis, and our commitments to the Kyoto protocol.
NiceGuy June 17th, 2005, 02:34 PM NorthStar77
I agree 100% with your analysis. Oslo will in a few years time look like very strange indeed if the current ban on tall buildings are kept in place. Residential buildings that are exactly 42 meters tall will be abundant, and we already have lots of OBOS-projects that are specifically adapted to this legislation.
NorthStar77 June 21st, 2005, 09:34 PM Indeed!
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60.000 housing units on its way in Oslo
Newspaper VG reports today that there are now 60.000 housing units under construction or under planning in Oslo. Atleast 30.000 of them are in projects that will definitely be built!
-We've gone from not beeing in class at all in the 90'ies, to become the best in class, says Bjørn Erik Øye at Prognognesenteret. In the 90'ies, Norway was at the bottom of the list when it came to housing-construction in Europe, but now we are among the top 3, acording to Euroconstruct.
-Norway did not keep up with the demand for new housing units in the 80'ies and 90'ies, especially because of Oslo. Now Oslo has the biggest production since 1954, he says.
Oslo knocks both Copenhagen and Stockholm down in the boots when it comes to housing-construction, according to VG. While Oslo finished 12,5 housing units per 1000 people last year, Stockholm produced 3,2 and Copenhagen 2,8.
6121 housing units started construction last year, wich is a growth on 80% from the year before. In the year 2000, "only" 2800 units was started. In 1954, 90% of new homes was made outside Ring 2, while last year 90% was made inside ring 2.
The focus lately has been to make high-price apartments, but the market for that is now nearly full, and Øye expects to see a higher demand for smaller apartments in the future. Most of the apartments that is currently under construction is already sold.
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=105553
NorthStar77 July 7th, 2005, 12:24 PM Just a few words on some of the things going on in Sandvika, the suburb where I work.
Expansion of Sandvika Storsenter
Olav Thon wants to connect Sandvika Storsenter(a shoppingcentre) with the hotel/congress-complex Inforama. This connection will contain 30.000 sqm of new shopping-area, and 10.000 sqm of offices. This will make Sandvika Storsenter, wich already has some 160 shops, the biggest shoppingcentre in Norway by far. Construction will start as soon as possible.
The light blue shows the extention. Sandvika Storsenter is the huge colossus on the top of the picture, Inforama is the picture in the bottomleft corner.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/thon.jpg
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Entra(an entrepeneur) has begun works on a "Skattens hus"("the house of taxes"), wich will contain offices for those who collect taxes in Asker and Bærum etc. A new pedestrian-street will be built, while they want to make the already existing pedestrian street into a street for cars..., they are also demolishing a parking-house, while building an underground one. They are also renovating the nearby buildings, with 14.000 sqm of commerical floorspace, and 60-100 apartments. The demolition of a smaller building there has already begun, wich is very noisy when I wait at the trainstation..
Seems to be quite boring designs, but it is actually better than what is there now. The building on the left is the new one, while the one on the right are now a gray concrete-thingy from the 70'ies.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/entra02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/entra01.jpg
Source: http://www.sandvika.as/sidene/index2.htm
NorthStar77 July 7th, 2005, 12:39 PM More from Olav Thon
Grønland Basar
This is a project that has been going on for a while, but I've forgot to write about it(I think). Grønland is, for those who don't know it already, situated in the middle of Oslo, only 100 meters east of Oslo Plaza, and it's very multicultural, even if it has become less so in recent years.
Grønland Basar will consist of a new building, and some renovated old buildings. There will be 3.000 sqm of shops, most of them "exotic" in a bazar/markedplace sort of way in 1'st and 2'nd floor, and 74 apartments from 3'rd to 6'th. It will finish by the end of this year.
http://www.olavthon.no/arch/_img/9044261.jpg
http://www.olavthon.no/arch/_img/9050891.gif
Interior
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/9050893.jpg
Gatis July 7th, 2005, 12:53 PM That Gronland Basar looks pretty interesting. It sounds - Oslo has got many things on-going, should be lots of constructions. Once more I can express... how sad it is that they don't allow high buildings :( With this demand / amount of construction you could do some amazing things in Oslo
NorthStar77 July 7th, 2005, 02:10 PM Once more I can express... how sad it is that they don't allow high buildings :( With this demand / amount of construction you could do some amazing things in Oslo
Indeed it could.
There are indeed alot of construction activity, especially in the most central parts of the city, but also around in various suburbs. For example, from my balcony faced towards downtown, I see around 10-12 construction-cranes at the moment. There are alot more cranes ofcourse, that is only the ones I see.
The reason for this is many, but I've probably mentioned them before. Oslo area stands for 1/2 of the population-growth in Norway, and for 1/3 of total the mainland economy. It is now alot easier to get projects aproved, and it takes less time than before. And, thanks to the EU-expansion, Oslo is flooded with polish construction-workers, that keeps costs down and ensures a near unlimited access to workers.
I still have a little hope that we can see some buildings higher that the maximum 19 floors in Bjøvika, for reasons I explained in the fjordcity-thread some days ago.
Þróndeimr July 19th, 2005, 11:28 PM Scandinavias roughest roller coaster, "Speedmonster"
"Speedmonster" opens in april 2006 in Tusenfryd, the largest amusementpark in Norway. The roller coaster with a cost of 60 million NOK is the largest single project in the parks 18 years old history.
The 6000 horcepower wagons shots the wagon from 0-90km/h in 2.2 seconds, which is faster than Formal 1 cars. The coaster is 690m long, and takes 69 seconds, after a loop with 4G power, and 4 other upside down screws the trip is completed. You have then experienced 7 imponderably conditions. The capacity is 700 spectactors in in a hour.
http://www.tusenfryd.no/uploads/Forsiden/SpeedMonsterFP.jpg
http://www.tusenfryd.no/uploads/Attraksjonene/fotomontasje1024.jpg
NorthStar77 July 25th, 2005, 05:03 PM The new Bislett stadium is now ready and will host the Golden League this weekend. Here are some photos from the completed stadium, from this (http://home.online.no/~geirjoar/bislett.htm) site.
The olympic rings, like in 1952
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20050722_bislett19e.jpg
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20050718_bislett33d.jpg
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20050718_bislett32d.jpg
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20050701_bislett46d.jpg
http://blink.dagbladet.no/community/files/n/nb/nbislet/20050701_bislett60d.jpg
jimm July 25th, 2005, 07:19 PM Scandinavias roughest roller coaster, "Speedmonster"
We need something like that here in Lithuania
NorthStar77 July 26th, 2005, 04:42 PM Just a couple of new apartment-projects I haven't seen before.
Skøyenhagen
On the oposite side of Skøyen station from Sjølyststranda, a parkinglot for busses will be turned into apartments. First stage of the developement, with 3 buildings and 70 apartments, will start sale this September. There will also be underground parkingfacilities.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/hagen.jpg
Wexels plass
In Herslebsgate, between Grønland and Grünerløkka, 300 apartments will be built, in a quartal structure consisting of several buildings between 20-33 meters of height. There will be shops on the first floor, and an underground parkinglot for 250 cars. Construction will start in Q4 this year.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/.proj2/wexel2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/.proj2/wexel1.jpg
As you can see, the buildings will surround an existing highrise.
Centro Oslo
3 new buildings with 85 apartments at Grünerløkka
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4855758_1_0_fasade.jpg
Lille Bislett
200 new apartments in 3 buildings. Shops/cafes on 1'st floor.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/.proj2/.lillebislett.jpg
The list of smaller infill-projects with ~20-60 apartments is nearly endless. But most of them are too uninteresting to show here.
rafaeld32 August 5th, 2005, 06:37 PM Ther is no construction boom in Oslo. I live in Oslo...and nothing is happening here. This project which are under construction now are so borring..!!!!!
Oslo have nothing to offer.
This 35.000 apartments will be finishd not in some few years but maybe 20 years...!!!
Construction-boom has come to stay
A humble effort to translate this (http://www.aftenposten.no/eiendom/article923341.ece) article in Aftenposten 2'nd dec.
Oslo is now one of the areas in Europe where construction activity is highest, there may be built 35.000 apartments the next years.
A range of prestigous projects are under planning for the moment, so there will be plenty to choose from for those looking for a new place in the years ahead.
- The variety of offers(?) is really getting up. We have identified 35.000 apartments that are on the planning-stage at the moment, Fornebu excluded, says Bjørn Erik Øye at Prognosesenteret.
Among those projects are Quernerbyen, Lørenbyen, Ensjøbyen, Bjørvika, and Tjuvholmen. In addition comes several in-fills projects.
-The problem can be, that many of these projects are located on the most expensive land lots in Norway. There is a risk of some of the projects failing, says Øye.
He thinks there have not been such a rapid developement since the construction of the "drabantbyer"(~commieblock-suburbs) in Groruddalen(in the 60'ies).
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Oslo is at the top in Europe if we look at the number of apartments under construction per capita. Only Ireland and Spain builds more. Ireland has a boom similar to what we had post WW2, and in Spain, the boom is caused by holiday-apartments.
In the 90'ies, we were at the bottom of that statistic. Norway in general has about the same construction activity as the average in Western-Europe, Oslo is a special case. - The centralistion-process is still strong in Norway, and the construction of apartments was lagging behind.
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Moolio August 5th, 2005, 06:43 PM Are you sure you're a Norwegian?
rafaeld32 August 5th, 2005, 11:45 PM Are you sure you're a Norwegian?
Read this if you Norwegian... :bash:
Har bodd i Oslo i over 18 år......når det gjelder bygge boom så er den overalt i Europa men ikke her.
Oslo er den stygeste byen jeg vet om...og jeg reiser mye.
NiceGuy August 7th, 2005, 10:59 AM Read this if you Norwegian... :bash:
Har bodd i Oslo i over 18 år......når det gjelder bygge boom så er den overalt i Europa men ikke her.
Oslo er den stygeste byen jeg vet om...og jeg reiser mye.
I don't know any other city in Western Europe that has more construction than Oslo right now measured relative to city size. I live close to Skøyen, and there are more than one thousand apartments there under completion within just a few hundred meters. You say there are more construction going on elsewhere in Europe; would you mind telling me where?
I don't really know what to say regarding your comment about Oslo being the most ugly city in the world, but I think your credibility would be slightly increased if you looked through your Norwegian grammar and spelling before posting. Writing "bygge boom" instead of "byggeboom" is especially bad.
rafaeld32 August 7th, 2005, 01:15 PM You are typical norwegian. Yust in love with your country and evrythings what `norsk`. Besides...take a look on Skøyen project...there is noe room for trees..! Typical for norwegian buildings projects are to use maximum of area, to putt most of buildings in small places....eks. Skøyen, Aker Brygge, Bjørvika, Sandvika senter etc.
I am from Warsaw...take a look on this city and find out what "byggeboom" is? :)
I don't know any other city in Western Europe that has more construction than Oslo right now measured relative to city size. I live close to Skøyen, and there are more than one thousand apartments there under completion within just a few hundred meters. You say there are more construction going on elsewhere in Europe; would you mind telling me where?
I don't really know what to say regarding your comment about Oslo being the most ugly city in the world, but I think your credibility would be slightly increased if you looked through your Norwegian grammar and spelling before posting. Writing "bygge boom" instead of "byggeboom" is especially bad.
Moolio August 7th, 2005, 01:31 PM I am from Warsaw...take a look on this city and find out what "byggeboom" is? :)
No offence, but Warsaw has a byggeboom now since there hasn't been one before. Oslo has multiple times more office space than Warsaw, even after its boom is over. Oslo has about 8 million square meters of offices, while Warsaw currently has 2 million m2 or so.
NorthStar77 August 9th, 2005, 10:44 AM Typical for norwegian buildings projects are to use maximum of area, to putt most of buildings in small places....eks. Skøyen, Aker Brygge, Bjørvika, Sandvika senter etc.
I think those are fine examples of successfull projects. If lots of trees is what you want, go buy an apartment in one of the countless blocks made in the 60-70 ies located outside the city. In northern parts of Groruddalen for example, you can have the entire Nordmarka right outside your apartment! :)
I respect your opinion about the projects beeing boring, but to say there is no boom?? That is very ignorant. Don't you see all the cranes around the city? Let me just summarize some of the biggest ongoing and/or under planning construction projects:
Fornebu: 6000 apartments
Bjørvika: 5000 apartments
Qvernerbyen: 1800 apartments
Lørenbyen: 1500 apartments
Lørenskog sentrum vest: 1000 apartments
Tjuvholmen: 900-1200 aparments
Grønlandskvartalene: 800 apartments
Sjølyst: 470 apartments
Rolvsrud park: 450 apartments
Ringnes park: 770 apartments
Waldemars hage: 500 apartment
Grefsen stasjonsby: 900 apartments
Pilestredet park: 650 apartments
Solsiden: 289 apartments
Marienlyst park: 255 apartments
Baglerbyen: 290 apartments
Startbo terrasser: 237 apartments
Nye Major: 300 apartments
Nydalen Kvarter: 400 apartments
Lysaker brygge: 354 apartments
Årvollskogen( lots of trees here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=3603891&postcount=116) ) - 300 housing units
Wexels plass: 300 apartments
gohcan August 10th, 2005, 12:55 PM Ther is no construction boom in Oslo. I live in Oslo...and nothing is happening here. This project which are under construction now are so borring..!!!!!
Oslo have nothing to offer.
This 35.000 apartments will be finishd not in some few years but maybe 20 years...!!!
Sure? I've seen many projects being built in Oslo. Don't ask me for the names, because I've been there for holidays. But I'm really impressed of how many projects and construction is there.
NorthStar77 August 10th, 2005, 01:40 PM Sure? I've seen many projects being built in Oslo. Don't ask me for the names, because I've been there for holidays. But I'm really impressed of how many projects and construction is there.
Thank you for giving an objective viewpoint :) rafaeld32 is probably just pissed on Norway in general for some reason. If he lives in Oslo like he claims, and also have a pair of eyes that is properly connected to his brain, he would see it too.
2000 apartments was completed from january to july this year, compared to 350 4 years ago. More than 7000 apartments is currently under construction, compared to 1600 5 years ago. How is that not a boom?
The construction of Bjørvika has started, right next to the central-station.
http://www.bjorvika-info.no/media/bjorvika/{C52BDF85-2578-41FB-94C6-7CDCB48BF6E7}.jpg
http://www.bjorvika-info.no/media/bjorvika/{22253962-7017-4D71-8AAD-A66BB769669A}.jpg
http://www.bjorvika-info.no/media/bjorvika/{41A2BB7C-5FEF-4C57-B234-A0E7D5DB62E1}.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00274/_A14nyttbjoervika06_274070h.jpg
Construction of Tjuvholmen, right next to Aker brygge, has started:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/tjuvholmen10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/tjuvholmen9.jpg
Pilestredet, 5 minutes walk from Karl Johan, is almost finished:
http://www.arkitektur.no/images/0014-t1.jpg
Waldemars hage, at Grünerløkka, is almost finished:
http://www.placebo-fx.com/images/projects/40010440-Armada_Eiendom_Waldemars/match_wh-aamodt_1kweb.jpg
Sjølyststranda is half-finished(except the tower will be cut):
http://www.obos.no/img_gallery/imgroot/Nye_Hjem/Bilder/Prosjekter/sjolyst/_sjolyst1_large.jpg
Ringnes park is under construction:
http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4446178_1_0_ringnes_park_2.jpg
Lørenbyen is under construction:
http://www.nybydel.no/imagearchive/Løren_områdeplan2.jpg
BI's new palace in Nydalen just opened:
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00308/148626g471_1190009__308900g.jpg
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00308/_1185776_jpg_308895g.jpg
Grønlandskvartalene, wich lies some 300 meters from the centralstation, is under construction:
http://www.gronlandskvartalene.no/img/kvartplan.jpg
etcetera etcetera..
gohcan August 10th, 2005, 02:38 PM http://www.bjorvika-info.no/media/bjorvika/%7B41A2BB7C-5FEF-4C57-B234-A0E7D5DB62E1%7D.jpg
What's the white building for?
This project is very nice. I like so much the modern area around central-station.
NorthStar77 August 10th, 2005, 02:55 PM ^It is the new operahouse, wich is under construction
http://snohetta.com/media/project_images/opera/gallery_large_opera28.jpg
http://snohetta.com/media/project_images/opera/gallery_large_opera23.jpg
http://snohetta.com/media/project_images/opera/gallery_large_opera29.jpg
This is how it looked in April, when I photographed it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/oslo/april/P1010128.jpg
Webcams:
http://operawebcam.snoball.no/image2.jpg
http://operawebcam.snoball.no/image.jpg
The motorway will later be put in a tunnel below the surface of the sea, securing a nicer access to the opera from the centralstation.
gohcan August 10th, 2005, 02:59 PM Thanks, it looks very good. Which is the date for finishing?
NorthStar77 August 10th, 2005, 03:04 PM It will be finished June 2007, and open September 2008. But the motorway won't be completed until 2012.
skog August 10th, 2005, 04:29 PM I've got mixed feelings about that opera house. Should be nice out on the water all dressed in white, but at the same time it looks kinda like a skateboard park or something.
NorthStar77 August 10th, 2005, 04:33 PM ^I have mixed feelings for it aswell, to be honest. Hopefully, it will look better in real life.
gohcan August 10th, 2005, 05:24 PM I don't like the gray box in the top. But the rest of the building is ok.
Þróndeimr August 29th, 2005, 06:57 PM Grefsen Stasjonsby soon ready for construction
Grefsen Stasjonsby, one of Oslo's largest nowdays contains three 12 story high-rise buildings pluss a unknown number of lower buildings below 10 floors. Construction is set to the first months on 2006.
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1103/grefsenstasjonsby2small1cx.jpg
Read more about Grefsen Stasjonsby here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=2077670&postcount=14).
NorthStar77 August 30th, 2005, 12:10 PM More detailed plans for Ensjøbyen is released. There will be two new streets, called Ensjøgata and Gladenggata. Ensjøgata will be a mainstreet with retail, cafe's and wide sidewalks. Hovinbekken, a small stream, will run along Gladenggata, wich will be 30 meters wide.
Ensjøgata
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/Ensjogata.jpg
Gladenggata
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/gladenggata.jpg
Street-layout of Gladenggata
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/prosjekter/basislosning.jpg
_keen_ August 31st, 2005, 09:23 PM Soon every city in Scandinavia will have an opera house on the waterfront. It is becoming so trendy... almost too much. I think even Riga has a similar project. :)
Gatis August 31st, 2005, 09:26 PM Riga has even two ;) (Acoustic Concert Hall and Lacplesis)
NorthStar77 September 1st, 2005, 01:17 PM Kværnerbyen aproved
Kværnerbyen has now been aproved by the city council, and sale of the first 150 apartments will start before christmas.
A total of 1800 apartments will be built, and there will also be office-space and areas for retail. And the Alna river
will be dug up, and run through this new part of the city. The old industrial hall will be used to art-exhibitions etc.
I am very glad for this developement, as I live right by it, and this will increase the value of the area I live in.
Sorry for the large illustration.
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/373823.jpg
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/391603.jpg
http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/391605.jpg
source: obos.no
ch1le September 1st, 2005, 01:33 PM the last render looks fantastic!
NiceGuy September 1st, 2005, 01:58 PM Great news. Many of these apartments will probably be quite cheap as well, considering that they are being built in a hole in the landscape (it is almost like a crater). Bjørvika is on the other hand quite close, and they will probably use this for all it is worth in their marketing.
Edit: Here is an additional illustration:
https://obos1.obos.no/DokProd/kb/logoer/oversiktsillustrasjon.jpg
Þróndeimr September 1st, 2005, 04:40 PM I still wonder what people will say about the high-rise building in the ensjø project. Few details has been revealed yet though.
Kværnerbyen looks really nice, and i think it will be highly attractive considering the how close this area is to downtown. It will be interesting to see more renderings from this massive project in the next few years.
NorthStar77 September 15th, 2005, 04:48 PM ^about highrises at Ensjø, I remember reading that the neighbours was positive, as long as it was not beeing built too close to their property.
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20 floor hotel proposed at Fornebu
The developers at Fornebu, IT Fornebu Eiendom, has proposed a 20 floor tall hotel next to the old terminal building. And the authorities in the municipality of Bærum, where it is located, are positive for now. Estimated costs are 300 million NOK, and it will have 200 rooms. They hope for an opening of the hotel in 2008.
http://www.bygg.no/ImageResizeCache/bde095faf44f221f537879e1f17bb92d.jpg
http://www.bygg.no/ImageResizeCache/0862fa3103ba364367cc633f9f803fe9.jpg
Good news :cheers:
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article1115682.ece
http://www.bygg.no/news/newsshow.asp?AreaID=4&NewsID=15536
NiceGuy September 15th, 2005, 05:01 PM Great news. So far 4 out of 7 comments on the article in Aftenposten are positive to this high-rise building. The people want skyscrapers! Everyone at Skyscrapercity.com are welcome to post their comments as well: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article1115682.ece
Þróndeimr September 15th, 2005, 05:33 PM Exellent news, such a landmark fits well in Fornebu, as far as the building do not turnes out to be a boring grey and boxy structure.
ch1le September 15th, 2005, 05:53 PM the highrise looks good, but why the hell is it beeing built in the middle of nowhere ?!
Þróndeimr September 15th, 2005, 06:06 PM the highrise looks good, but why the hell is it beeing built in the middle of nowhere ?!
Its not in the middel of nowhere, Fornebu is where the old Oslo airport was situated. This area will be rebuilt into a huge district of residentials and offices. Telenors headquarter is already situated there, which you might know. By 2020 this area will be a ultra modern urban area with some 40 000 people working a living on the half island situated between Oslo and Sandvika.
NiceGuy September 18th, 2005, 05:43 PM I just got hold of the latest edition of the OBOS magazine, and it features an article about Kværnerbyen. The project is presented as a cheap alternative to new places like Bjørvika and Tjuvholmen, and prices will start at 1.2 million NOK. Here are some renderings of the first buildings available to potential buyers:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3329/kvaernerbyentrinn11sd.jpg
From above:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2553/kvaernerbyentrinn1topp9te.jpg
Jarmo K September 18th, 2005, 07:01 PM that hotel looks interesting! (:
Þróndeimr September 20th, 2005, 06:15 PM Arcasa Arkitekters proposal of Majorstua. This proposal was among the three first which was first presented in 2001 as far as i remember. I don't think any of those proposals made it. Link Arkitekter had a great proposal, but can't find any renderings exept som Bygge Industrien magazines i've got.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/ArcasaForslag1.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/ArcasaForslag4.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/ArcasaForslag3.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/ArcasaForslag2.jpg
NorthStar77 September 20th, 2005, 06:39 PM Nice, looks like Majorstua will get a mini-cluster :)
Þróndeimr September 20th, 2005, 09:22 PM ^ Yeah, but this proposal is old, from 2001. And im not sure what happend after the opposition against the proposals. This proposal might have been approved, because it looks like they have developed their proposal a little bit since the competition in 2001.
NorthStar77 September 21st, 2005, 10:25 PM I took a few photos of Grenseveien 92 today. It has been standing like this, half finished, for some time.
This is before recostruction:
http://www.pbase.com/northstar77/image/26533552.jpg
This is now, 2 floors added, making it 13 in total:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/diverse/P1010013.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/northstar77/diverse/P1010012_1.jpg
Þróndeimr September 21st, 2005, 10:38 PM I think they could do a better reconstruction, but its a good exemple of a reconstructed building, without killing its domestic impression as a "commieblock"/70s design building.
NorthStar77 October 20th, 2005, 02:00 PM New metro-cars arrived Oslo today. They will be presented for media in the middle of November, and the first ones will be operating from January. They will run extensively until April, when they will be sent back to the factory in Austria and checked for errors. First in 2007 will they be operating normally.
http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1129801464889_674.jpg
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=108553
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The new ticket-system for all public transport in the greater Oslo area seems to be on tracks too, new machines are beeing set up everywhere, and the stations Nasjonaltheateret, Stortinget, Jernbanetorget, Grønland, Tøyen and Carl Berner have now got barriers that will stop cheaters in the future.
Spearman October 25th, 2005, 09:04 PM Nei til nye Vestbane-planer
Riksantikvaren setter nok en gang foten ned for Oslo kommunes planer for vestbanetomten. Høyhuset på 18 etasjer er borte, men det er ikke nok, mener Riksantikvaren.
(Fra NRK Østlandssendingen)
Publisert 24.10.2005 07:37. Oppdatert 24.10.2005 13:57.
Av Hanne Hoftun og Hilde Røiseland
Høyhuset ble fjernet fra planene, men det er ikke nok for Riksantikvaren.
Riksantikvaren la første gang ned innsigelse mot planene til Oslo kommune i 2003.
Da fjernet kommunen planene om et 18 etasjer høyt hus på tomten.
Nå har det kommet ny innsigelse fra vernemyndighetene.
- Ikke verdig
Blant annet er Riksantikvaren kritisk til kulturbygget som skal ligge bak stasjonsbygningen.
Riksantikvaren mener kulturbygget, som skal romme det nye hovedbiblioteket, ikke er verdig nok ved siden av den gamle vestbanebygningen.
http://www.nrk.no/img/534214.jpeg
Slik skal Vestbanen etter planen bli seende ut. Ill: Statsbygg
Leder for byutviklingskomitéen i Oslo, Ola Elvestuen (V), er åpen for å diskutere med Riksantikvaren.
Vil ikke starte på nytt
- Vi kan sikkert foreta ytterligere tilpasninger, men vi kan ikke begynne helt på nytt igjen, sier han.
Ny arkitektur kommer til å omkranse hele vestbaneprosjektet.
Elvestuen erkjenner at det gamle stasjonsbygget på Vestbanen er et gammelt ærverdig kulturminne, men han mener det blir feil å la det nye kulturbygget underordne seg vestbanebygget.
Begge må gi
- Biblioteket blir nye monumentalbygget på Vestbanen, sier han.
Ola Elvestuen (V)håper begge parter kan gi litt for å få enighet.
Elvestuen sier at byutviklingskomitéen ikke vil være villig til å starte helt på nytt med ny arkitekturkonkurranse nå.
- Det kan bli umulig å imøtekomme Riksantikvaren, sier prosjektleder Jannike Hovland hos Statsbygg.
Riksantikvaren vil bevare de originale togskinnene, og krever en egen passasje rett gjennom det planlagte biblioteket.
- Denne løsningen krever et helt nytt prosjekt, sier Hovland.
- Begge parter må gi noe. Hvis Riksantikvaren står på sitt, må vi stå på vårt. Da må saken bringes inn for en avgjørelse i Miljøverndepartementet, sier Ola Elvestuen.
NorthStar77 October 25th, 2005, 09:16 PM Er det bare meg eller er Riksantikvaren noe...antikvarisk??!?! :bash:
Not a single brick can be turned without Riksantikvaren protesting against it. It's important to preserve some things of historical value, but a city needs to change to be alive, not just let everything remain as it is!! I remember they objected to the apartment buildings near here because a lid was to be put on top off the railroadtrack on Gjøvikbanen. Even that was wrong because the track itself had historical value for these people. Luckily they were not heard in that case.
Spearman October 25th, 2005, 09:23 PM It basically says that the conservation autority (riksantikvar?) have halted the construction of the new cultural centre because it isn't "worthy (enough)". The landmarked building in front (a little to the right) is an old railway station (1872).
The complaint is that the new building is to "dominant" and that there is no room to house rails (that she feels is needed to show that it was a station).
In 2003 a similar complaint laid to the removal of a planned 18 floor highrise; deemed "to high" (surprised?).
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Just posted this to show how difficult it is to get anything built in Oslo... :(
Spearman October 25th, 2005, 09:27 PM Er det bare meg eller er Riksantikvaren noe...antikvarisk??!?! :bash:
Not a single brick can be turned without Riksantikvaren protesting against it. It's important to preserve some things of historical value, but a city needs to change to be alive, not just let everything remain as it is!! I remember they objected to the apartment buildings near here because a lid was to be put on top off the railroadtrack on Gjøvikbanen. Even that was wrong because the track itself had historical value for these people. Luckily they were not heard in that case.
I agree. Maybe the crowd here is a little more highrise-and-newbuild friendly than most, but it can't be only us who think this is a little over the top...
I guess he is only doing his job, but sometimes it seems more like a joke.
shane453 October 28th, 2005, 12:08 AM Wow, lots of things seem to be going on in Oslo. I love the renderings of Kværnerbyen they're very beautiful. When I visited Oslo I really loved the mixture of historic and modern/contemporary architechture in the city. These new modern-style apartments are beautiful on the artificial river/canal.
The hotel is a very interesting shape.
skog November 8th, 2005, 02:22 PM A group of arcitects have launched the idea of building a new stadium for Vålerenga IF over the train yard at the Oslo Central Station. The train yard is one of the ugliest features of this part of town, and completely locks out a major part of the city from walking to the waterfront.
This would be brilliant, as one can build a 20-25.000 seater stadium within walking distance of the airport express trains, the main train station for the region, a bus terminal and the subwaysystem.
The politicians like this idea a lot better than building it on the waterfront in the Bjørvika area it is said.
Dagens Næringsliv have made an illustration, looks like someone has taken the Maracana stadium and just dropped it into town. But it gives an idea anyway, but it wont look anything like that.
http://www.dn.no/multimedia/archive/00088/LB_VIF-stadion_over__88108i.jpg
NorthStar77 November 8th, 2005, 02:32 PM This could be a good idea. But I wonder how much it would cost to build over the tracks like that. And I'd like to see some more detailed renders first:D
Spearman November 8th, 2005, 07:37 PM Yeah, sounds expensive. But I'm all for covering those ugly tracks asap.
Þróndeimr November 8th, 2005, 07:51 PM Its a great idea! The train yard looks horrible, so the idea of building a stadium over it is good. The stadium would have a great cost, but its much better to locate a stadium over the train yard instead of by the waterfront.
gooth November 8th, 2005, 08:02 PM I don't know if this was posted already, and probably you will know it. Anyway, i let you know. There are two webcams plaec around the new opera house, and you can see the construction. It's really amazing.
http://www.webcamsinnorway.com/camview/703.html
http://www.webcamsinnorway.com/camview/704.html
NorthStar77 November 11th, 2005, 03:54 PM A new highrise apartment block is beeing built at Carl Berner, "Utsiktstoppen". I think I've written about it earlier. Currently they are building the 10'th of a total of 12 floors. Neighbours are complaining, saying it destroys their view, and that this would never have been accepted on the westend.
Personally I don't think it look nice. It looks too grey, and should have been narrower and taller. It was originally intended to be 17 floors, but was only allowed to build 12. Good thing it is not just a square box though.
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00338/_A05hus1011_jpg_338251h.jpg
Angry neighbour and the block in the background
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00338/151173w003_A05utsik_338252h.jpg
Article in Norwegian:http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/oslo/article1154427.ece
ch1le November 11th, 2005, 04:11 PM let them be angry, they should be reminded that the building they are living in blocks someonen elses view too... ITS LIFE!
The building is dull though, but the shape is quite nice, and well a model like that doesnt say much, i would like to see how it interacts with the streetscape ;)
NorthStar77 November 11th, 2005, 04:16 PM Hint taken;) I'll try, but it's not easy to make time to photograph it in daylight this time of year.
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