Well we are getting some black at least with FWP...
stu

Hell, we need a bronze building like the one in this Pic, it looks cool. and that other tall one looks alright, just needs a better podium. and maybe a height reduction depends on the size and where it would go.

From the city of. Guangzhou formerly Canton. And this thread http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=2182404#post2182404

here is the picture. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/Bronteboy/guangzhou.jpg

well we got a mini sears (if you squint) with Telstra but I wish they had of gone the "hack" and made it...say...60 - 70 floors.
Speaking colours, although I like the building quite a lot I only just tolerate the "salmon pink" of Casselden Place.
By the way i remember the illustration of the building when it was under construction had it topped out with a spiffy looking glass dome. did they run out of $$? Another never built dome for Melbourne.
And while I'm on the dome topic, what's so Dome-like about Telstra Dome? There is no Dome there of any kind obviously. I guess it sounded American so of course they wanted that name...morons!

Actually, they only chose it to avoid the confusion of having two Telstra Stadiums, Dome was the other that they chose. I suppose Telstra Oval wouldn't really have suited either...
stu

arena maybe?

No, arena from what I understand is more for basketball, hockey, tennis type facilities I think (eg: Melbourne park facilities have two arenas).
stu

hmmm true. ok dome it is...reluctantly.

well, here are my first pictures that i have taken and posted here. well exept for the MCG ones, but they sucked.
Today after i got out of school at 2pm, i went down to the collins street bridge, and took a few snaps, then headed around to northbank near Flinders street, and got a few of Eureka and FWP.

YE5 if i am not mistaken
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/drunkill/My%20pictures/9th%20of%20Sept%202004/P10202392.jpg
Group shot!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/drunkill/My%20pictures/9th%20of%20Sept%202004/P10202232.jpg
Another group shot. this one has all YE buildings in it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/drunkill/My%20pictures/9th%20of%20Sept%202004/P1020222.jpg
More to come later, i only have a x3 optical zoom, so form the bridge some things are small. ahh well.

EDIT; just rotated 2 of the pics, sorry 'bout that.

yeah we need a huge black one like the sears towers. that black would look cool. even if it were only Mid sized.

I think the closest to that, which we have now is the Telstra Building, it is like a way shorter version of the sears towers in my view.

taken by work mate on weekend
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/YEtowers.jpg

That's a great angle.

http://members.optushome.com.au/haksoz/Images/BeaconCoveSEP04/P9131991.JPG

Holy crap hacksaw! den-city! ^_^ Great shot, good angle.
The lighthouse adds a nice touch.

God, how pissweak in terms of height does YE2 look in that shot.. lol

True, but think of it another way... how kick-ass does that make YE5 look :nocrook:
stu

Great (? :P) to see a crane come down, again great pic Hacks.

Administrative note: I don't see a point in archiving this thread so far when YE5 is only a few months from completion. We'll just create another YE thread when things start to hot up again.

Great (? :P) to see a crane come down, again great pic Hacks.

Administrative note: I don't see a point in archiving this thread so far when YE5 is only a few months from completion. We'll just create another YE thread when things start to hot up again.
good idea!
hilton is closing in 500 posts but its also about to be competed so that can also go a tad over 500.
bye bye crane :cry:

damn, that would have looked good in gold but maybe would have taken too much attention away from the other YE towers possibly. Pity all the same.

bye bye crane :cry:

Much better to bid farewell to the crane this way than to see it come down one tower at a time. Easier on everyone. :cheers:

Was looking at an apartment in Tower 1 YE yesterday and the agent said Mirvac arent building any more towers after tower 5...and that they only ever had planning approval for 6 of them, not the original 11 or so stretching up to Bolte Bridge and that they will be doing low rise townhouses on the remaining land a la Beacon Cove??

Is she bullsh|tting or is this true?

It's bullshit, they are just trying to sell you an apartment.

This is the response I get from the project manager at Vicurban (Docklands Authority) on August 23rd:

Mirvac is reviewing the sequence of development in light of the current market conditions, placing the next three high rise towers on hold and commencing with the low rise housing.

They have approval for towers 6-8 and towers 9-11 are in the development plan but there are no detailed designs approved yet.

Much better to bid farewell to the crane this way than to see it come down one tower at a time. Easier on everyone. :cheers:
Dont know what model Favelle thats pulling down the other,but to me it looks to far out to pick the mach/deck????

Both cranes are M310D's, #052 & #055 and I am 100 % certain that both are single decks too. Crane 1 better be able to pluck the 2nd or we will look like dickheads putting it back together again to climb it down.

I would hazard a guess and say the one coming down will be going to Yve next too, only a guess but.

Edit, Friday night, on my way into the Watermark meet, the p/pack and deck are down so it must of been good enough hey???!!!

http://img57.exs.cx/img57/1466/P9202063.jpg

http://img57.exs.cx/img57/2544/P9202065.jpg

WOW Hacksaw!

YE 5 looks like something from a chess board from that angle ! :rock:

Cheers

Lozza ! :bowtie:

Doesn't YE4 looks schmikeroonies!

Both cranes are M310D's, #052 & #055 and I am 100 % certain that both are single decks too. Crane 1 better be able to pluck the 2nd or we will look like dickheads putting it back together again to climb it down.

I would hazard a guess and say the one coming down will be going to Yve next too, only a guess but.

Edit, Friday night, on my way into the Watermark meet, the p/pack and deck are down so it must of been good enough hey???!!!
I reckon she wouldnt have had much left though :)

I reckon she wouldnt have had much left though :)


I reckon you might be right. Deck would be between 10-14t and I don't know how far apart the cranes were, but they certainly had to be close to 20m. Tailswing on these is over 7m so it was definately twice as much as that. You would want to be knowing that the sludge tank was empty and she was running on fumes at her last gasp eh!

By the way Hacksaw, your photo's are awesome.

http://img60.exs.cx/img60/2151/P9242179.jpg

Very nice pic Hacksaw - I find YE5 most imposing, one of the most
interesting designs in the current u/c's imo. Anyway, your Tour de Projects in general much appreciated. Big effort. Terrific pics.

YE5 really needs a diagram on SSP. I remember someone once did a really good one - all that would need to be changed would be the colour.

I'd love to do it if given all the dimensions. Having seen that above angle, though, I wouldn't know which way to approach it. It is unique in that shot. I love it!

Cheers,

Adam

HEHEHE !

YE 5 looks like a pregnant woman from angle the above picture !! :runaway:

It sort of bulges out about 1/3 of the way down !

It sort of has a bit of a Beer Belly ! :cheers: :drunk:
cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

YE5 is definitely a winner. As Bronteboy says, it looks very imposing and is just stunning in its design. The tapering at the top makes it appear even taller, too, like it's disappearing into the sky.

the only problem with YE5 is that it's not as elaborate (or flowing?) as that small render that most described as 'wild' :(

if anyone remembers what im talking about and have a copy of it, pls post it :)

:banana:

not long to go before this thread is lumped in the "completed" threads. i wonder how long it will be before its "dusted off" and brought back out for YE6? maybe a while.
but overall the 5 towers look ok. they stick out like sore thumbs but i reckon Mirvac had that in mind all along. YE5 looks the better of the 5.
cheers

Really, besides the second one they are awesome. I lubs them.

yeah, but what were they thinking with YE 2??
already looks dated.

incidentally the 134m YE5 is same height as Sydney Harbour Bridge!

http://img85.exs.cx/img85/7228/YE.jpg

THAT is how it was intended to be viewed. Great pic.

stu

Mirvac set for Golden tower showdown
http://www.propertyreview.com.au/archives/2004/06102004/headline/image/mirvac_yarrasedge.jpg
Angry investors and purchasers of apartments at Mirvac’s fifth tower at Melbourne Docklands are preparing for a landmark legal battle over alleged misleading and deceptive conduct by the listed developer.

Law firm Jerrard & Stuk yesterday confirmed to propertyreview.com.au that it has around 15 purchasers at Mirvac’s so-called Golden tower, who intend fighting the development group over misrepresentation matters regarding the fifth tower at its Yarra’s Edge development.

The tower, which has been promoted as the ultimate tower at Mirvac’s Docklands, is due for settlement late next month.

However, according to Jerrard & Stuck associate Daniel Oldham his firm has 15 purchasers at tower five who allege Mirvac has misled them.

The matter is set to become another major legal battle for the respected developer in regards to issues of misrepresentation and misleading and deceptive conduct.

Oldham said issues raised by buyers of tower five come under the Trade Practices Act sections 51, 52, 53 and 82.

“Principle complaints by buyers are valuation issues, lack of promised infrastructure and the missing marina,” Oldham said.

Oldham added that another serious issue was the colour of the glass tower, which was according to the company’s brochures and advertisements gold in colour.

One buyer, who contacted propertyreview.com.au last week complained: “The glass is a totally different colour to what was promised in the brochure. It was supposed to be a golden tower and it is poo-brown.”

“There is no way I am settling. It is total misrepresentation,” he said. “The brochure was this amazing golden thing two feet long with magnificent representations of this beautiful golden glass tower. It has turned out nothing like what they promised!”

Jerrard & Stuk have become many developers worst nightmare and investors and ‘owner occupiers’ best friend tackling such issues as misleading and deceptive conduct; and questionable valuations.

Recently, the Supreme Court of Victoria rejected a Mirvac appeal against a Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal decision, which found in favour of Docklands purchaser Peter Philp. The Supreme Court found that the contract signed by the Jerrard & Stuk client fell under the Domestic Building Contracts Act and was not enforceable as the deposit paid was in excess of the 5% stipulated under the Act.

The Supreme Court rejected Mirvac’s argument sending both parties back to VCAT were the matter was to be reheard, however, Mirvac has appealed Justice Byrne’s decision.

The Supreme Court of Appeal will hear the matter on 15 October.

The Victorian government has since retrospectively changed the legislation to close a loop hole in “off-the-plan” contracts.
http://www.propertyreview.com.au/archives/2004/06102004/headline/06102004001.html

Hehe those people have been trying anything to get out of their contracts well before the glass started going up :-)

What is the story with the marina and the retail, it's very dissapoinitng that they still haven't opened because without them the area seems very lifeless.

I am glad i bought in watergate ! it looks waaaay better than YE 5 in my opinion ! And i probably only paid 2/3 of the price of a Mirvac Apartment!

And i agree that YE 5 would have looked waaay better if it was more of a golden colour ! It does look like a real "POO BROWN " colour in real life actually !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

tomorrow's ghettos?

maybe they are waiting for the 'critical mass' before the open up the retail so its viable?

I hope the marina never gets up as it would be a blight on the largest piece of water near the City. I find marinas about as interesting as bitumen car parks.

Let the Yarra sparkle!

lets hope they don't get the "gold" glass on eureka wrong!...they wouldn't...would they?? "gulp"

I woudl prefer to be walking along Yarra's Edge in full sun rather then at New Quay in full shade. I think they two should have been swaped. The north side of the Yarra is a prime site for retail activity.

yeah well speak of the devil...

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/ye200410.jpg

while i'm here, lozza lozza lozza

i'm not generally a musical person but hey

"i know you like to think your shit dont stink but lean a little bit closer and see tour roses really smell like po-oo-oo!"

^ ^ close enough, watergate is good but YE 5 shits all over it in just about every way, take those rose coloured glasses off already

i think they where building the marina when i went down there today

Best podium EVER hehe. Melbourne does podium car parks better than anyone, Harry S take note :-)

Best podium EVER hehe. Melbourne does podium car parks better than anyone, Harry S take note :-)

Well we've had enough practice by now :tongue3:

stu

i think they where building the marina when i went down there today
Hallelujah! About time!!

http://img36.exs.cx/img36/2633/PA092482.jpg

In five years time when that fugly shed in the foreground is gone and the Marina is developed, Hacksaw's shot above will look spectacular. :)

Silver MB , OHH PLEEEZZ ???? hehe !

The only thing YE 5 has over Watergate is its height !!!

Anyway , i can confirm they were building the marina from the Rialto Observation Deck today !

Cheers

Lozza :rock:

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2478/101932478ml1097215813.jpg

That retail podium will be a winner when its finished, but some greenery down there would make the whole thing less stark... the eastern end of southgate as example, the buildings would look pretty shocking if it weren't for the trees.

Blue

Marina, At last!

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/2459/101942459dl1097642437.jpg

The marinas progressing
http://img27.exs.cx/img27/7752/PA162568.jpg

http://img27.exs.cx/img27/5472/PA162579.jpg

http://img10.exs.cx/img10/1430/o17016.jpg

http://img96.exs.cx/img96/1892/o17017.jpg

OMG, fantastic pics! I had never actually stopped and looked at any long enough to notice the "wonkyness" of YE5, but these show it easily!

Stu

RE: salamagd's second photo above, It probably seems like a minor point to most, but the Mondrian-ish podium extending along after YE2 is simply superb! It looks so perfect to me that I can't stop staring at it! Especially with the water in the foreground and random veiling of trees. :)

Marina looks complete

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/YEmarina.jpg

That was quick. How deep is the Yarra at that point?

Guys, am having a bit of a shot at drawing YE5 for SSP diagram. Firstly, if any of you are doing so, tell me and I'll stop. It's a BITCH.
Next. This is only for dimensions, the colours are all false, no detail has been put in. I simply wanted to see if I could make it fit into the allotted space. It doesn't seem to want to :bash: There are 1000 things to do but I want to know if I'm at least in ballpark here.

OK. Here is the roughie:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/stclair2/y5sketch.jpg

Any and all advice appreciated.

Cheers,

Adam

this was the one i started ages ago and never finished. anyone has my complete permission to edit it, because this was drawn off renderings and looks pretty wrong now. the podium obviously needs fixing, as well as the overall shape of the tower. and i dont even know if i put the right number of floors in. but i might as well post it.
http://grim-fairytales.org/clem/pics/ye5d.gif

Are they going to extend the marina westwards eventually, or will another one be built seperately further up?

this was the one i started ages ago and never finished. anyone has my complete permission to edit it, because this was drawn off renderings and looks pretty wrong now. the podium obviously needs fixing, as well as the overall shape of the tower. and i dont even know if i put the right number of floors in. but i might as well post it.
http://grim-fairytales.org/clem/pics/ye5d.gif

Clem mate, it's fantastic. just needs a bit of fiddling with the width and number of the floors (gotta be 34 above the podium). Could you possibly IM or e-mail me a copy and I could have a bit of a doodle with a couple of things, like changing the colour of the glass a bit and a couple of other things?

Well done, mate, :) :)

Cheers,

Adam

yes i think a bit thinner too. Also get rid of that gold colour! it aint gold, but a dark grey. Remember the news story only a few weeks back about some future tennant s for YE5 are pissed off about being told there moving into a gold tower and in reality its black! lol

render>http://www.propertyreview.com.au/archives/2004/06102004/headline/image/mirvac_yarrasedge.jpg
lol

The colour is actually dark bronze, not quite black.

I think Clem's color is pretty ok. Its a little too light, but otherwise ok.

yes i think a bit thinner too. Also get rid of that gold colour! it aint gold, but a dark grey. Remember the news story only a few weeks back about some future tennant s for YE5 are pissed off about being told there moving into a gold tower and in reality its black! lol:hilarious: You nut! Yeah, that's such a classic & will certainly go down into the history books.

Geez, they had that marina built in a flash !!!! I reckon they had that built within a month ! :rock:

Imagine the Yarra River and Docklands Water area within 3 years time ! It will be a hive of activity for all the new boats ! It will look awesome !

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

all the marina needs now is boats!!
is the marina for private useage fom the YE complex?

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/lukekasper/YEmarina.jpg

Gday Cul,

Right in the podium of Yarra Edge 3 ,there is a new shop open especially for selling these marina births.. I would say that anyone can buy them, but it would be aimed at the people living in Yarras edge mainly. Maybe there is a portion allocated for YE Tenants, and a few left over spare. I think there is over 100 berths there .

Cheers

Lozza :bowtie:

Mmmmm, gonna look fantastic when the boats are berthed there and sailing around the Yarra/ Victoria harbour, and it was built quickly! Is there going to be an opposing marina that comes from the opposite direction (like from YE5), with a gap obviously for the boats to get out?

Stu

Freeway flypast
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~anfield/city6.jpg

Interestingly a 1.25l coke is $1.39 from the IGA Xpress in Fitzroy St and $2.40 from the one at Yarras Edge

in culs post, what the hell is that pedestrian tube? it looks UGLY. by the way holdafst shores marina, adelaide beats that marina by a damn mile.

Its the Webb Bridge, i think it won an award or somthing for design, but it has some relation with Aboriginal art. somehow =\

Not art, I believe modelled off Aboriginal fishing traps they used to use on the river. I think its pretty good, will come into its own once the whole precinct is done IMHO.

Stu

The top of YE five... is it going to be transparent (don't know what other word to describe it) as shown or are they still going? The last pic from a side on sorta view (the freeway fly over shows it as filled in, but if you look at it from front on it looks like a whole bunch of poles closely spaced with the LMr and whatever else is on the roof quite clearly visible. All that ugly stuff should be covered up I reckon.

MG2

Clem mate, it's fantastic. just needs a bit of fiddling with the width and number of the floors (gotta be 34 above the podium). Could you possibly IM or e-mail me a copy and I could have a bit of a doodle with a couple of things, like changing the colour of the glass a bit and a couple of other things?

Well done, mate, :) :)

umm i would post it, but that there is all i have. i never planned on actually finishing it so i'd only saved the one copy. so a copy+paste would be in order.

but do what you want with it.

the best looking carpark you'll ever see, just so happens to have a tower on top. compare tower 3 in the first/last pic, incredibly thin. YE5's girth is colossal

http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/ye200411.jpg

not as 'wild' as we once saw in a single render - but sure as shit that'll do!! :)

just waiting for realestate.com.au to crank up the views from this baby.

It has a pot belly.
A bit like yer mum ay tays?

One question - what were they thinking with YE2?!

It looks so out of place, like a grade 2 child in high school! lol

Diversity :)

umm i would post it, but that there is all i have. i never planned on actually finishing it so i'd only saved the one copy. so a copy+paste would be in order.

but do what you want with it.

I chucked my own version in and it's currently in the "Diagrams Pending Approval" section. It has many problems but I think it looks more like Yarra's Edge V than Yarra's Edge I. The podium was a bitch and I cut many corners through pure frustration!
No mentions please about colour. It's nearly impossible to get that exact so mine does suffer from a case of the "poo browns" :ohno:

Cheers,

Adam

Bit at the top's almost done...

http://img110.exs.cx/img110/9413/n22013.jpg

gorgeous shot salmagd! very unique tower!

bizarre tower. don't like it. keep the carpark, demolish the tower!

bizarre tower. don't like it. keep the carpark, demolish the tower!

You like anything that's being built these days? Anywhere in the world?

I love the fact it's so skeletal.

Cheers,

Adam

Yeah, I like the tower, just a shame about the glass colour IMO. The shape is unique and I'm liking the 'crown', can't wait to see how it is lit up at night!

Stu

i definitely like the shape, but im also a little disappointed with the glass
They promised me gold damnit!!
i hope they thicken up the crown a little so you cant see all the plant boxes on top, but unlikely eh

Overall though i like this tower more than dislike it woo

The first boat is in the Marina!!!

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/3431/401323431ml1101262928.jpg

Hopefully with many more to come soon too! Will really make the area seem more..... habitated..... I suppose ;)

Stu

I think the curves up the side look weird, but I really like them. The plant room "crown" is also different and a definate improvement on a square box.

The crane appears to be out of action, the rope has been pulled into the bottom at tower 10 or so for the last few days, maybe waiting for a replacement rope, because it surely won't be going anywhere until they get that rope hanging straight again. The crane has to "climb" back down again, until it gets within reach of a recovery/mobile crane, probably between 6-10 towers high (18-30m)

http://img51.exs.cx/img51/1883/PC022834.jpg

Incredible shot! Put that into the photo contest NOW!

Stu

looks like the cranes coming down so when is a building actually finished as soon as the crane comes down or when the last finishing touches is done?

I reckon the top of YE1 is a shocker. Shite brown exterior :puke:

YE5 sans crane and the new completed YE group

http://bonsaisite.com/towers/ye/1.jpg

http://bonsaisite.com/towers/ye/2.jpg

http://bonsaisite.com/towers/ye/3.jpg

http://bonsaisite.com/towers/ye/4.jpg

I quite like the top of YE1

http://bonsaisite.com/towers/ye/5.jpg

Excellent photos.

I'll state the obvious - they really dropped the ball with YE2.

Cheers,

Adam

cool pix. thus ends the Yarras Edge project for now.looks extremely finished. ill move to completed threads while im here but if you want to move back for some reason go ahead.

[imghttp://bonsaisite.com/towers/ye/4.jpg[/img]


i am really really stuggling to appreciate this part of Docklands, these towers are very average looking and the way they are all evenly spaced is all very generic and "Trueman show" to me. What do you other guys think ?

So the title of tallest residential tower in Melbourne will have changed four times within a year:

Republic Tower: 120m
City/Melbourne Towers: 122m
YE5: 134m
QV Residential: 142m
Eureka Tower: 297.3m

^ its amazing how it doubled from QV to E. I reckon E will be tallest resi in melb for sometime.

Well FWP Residential, Verve 501 and Royal Domain will all be taller than QV and should be completed by the end of 2005 but not before Eureka.

^ its amazing how it doubled from QV to E. I reckon E will be tallest resi in melb for sometime.

i thought it was near impossbile to go above it !

i am really really stuggling to appreciate this part of Docklands, these towers are very average looking and the way they are all evenly spaced is all very generic and "Trueman show" to me. What do you other guys think ?

I'm thinking it needs more time to settle and the development around it and the rest of docklands to further progress. It is rather sparce and 'generic' at the moment but over time will blend in as the precinct takes shape.

Stu

http://img105.exs.cx/img105/7421/dsc004541mw.jpg

One more to add, from yesterday ontop of a grassy hillock.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/drunkill/P1030886.jpg

May aswell just add this one from a few days ago:
http://img187.exs.cx/img187/9070/p12148813ar.jpg

not much of a view for the lucky residents? lol .hope its better the other direction?
maybe a decade it should be more of a view when the Docklands infrastructure is completed.
top pix guys

uh?

Not much of a view?!
http://www.melbournephotos.net/misc/november05_large.jpg
And the otherside is looking over port melbourne to the beach and station pier. Its a bloody fantastic view.

hes talking about all of the stuff on the left side of the pic, that's the view through the window where the leafy pot plant sits on the window sill! The other side is much betterer.....
I am very dissapointed with how these towers ended up and the way they sit against each other, its too Coolangatta.

There's some awesome angles/pics!!

The podium for this tower is feaking amazing... I want something like that in Sydney. Not sure about the rest of them all in a straight line like that. They're nice towers, but too diverse, they architecture clashes with each other rather than compliment each other.

Typically avant-garde Melbourne architecture at its best/worst. Who knows? Maybe in 15 years it'll be still remarked as being breathtaking or derided as riding a short lived architectural style wave.

Did I mention I loved the podium?

Guess who was up at level 16 YE1 today?


ME!\
too bad i did not bring my camera, if i had of known, i would of.
I went up there for work, we had to deliver a bed and a couch to someone, and set it up for them, the veiw was awsome, all of the docklands and the city!

She has one on the corner so two sides to look from, it was great. i would not mind living there.

Mirvac Residential Towers
Two new high rise residential towers in Melbourne’s Docklands frame the extended axis of Flinders Street. The activation of this axis by the new towers maximises real estate values while enhancing the urban value of the city.

http://www.lyonsarch.com.au/projects/co/co05/larges/CO5-01.jpg

http://www.lyonsarch.com.au/projects/co/co05/larges/CO5-02.jpg

http://www.lyonsarch.com.au/projects/co/co05/larges/CO5-03.jpg

http://www.lyonsarch.com.au/projects/co/co05/larges/CO5-04.jpg

so are these now proposed? or about to start? or planned?
they look like they have earthquake damage?

I think these were proposed. I am not too certain if the final designs for this site have been completed. I hope these get off the ground, cos the view up Flinders St towards YE would look amazing if these 2 towers went ahead.

http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/ye full.jpg