View Full Version : Sydney's OLYMPIC Stadium, now & then!


CULWULLA
August 20th, 2004, 08:37 AM
heres a pic of Olympic stadium in June 2001, just 3 months before Olympics
notice the wings. this was capacity for 115,000
http://hoore.com/helo/r405a/stadium_2001_06_medium.jpg

now its 80,000 cap with removal of stands

http://hoore.com/helo/r405a/stadium_2002_08_medium.jpg

Amaruu
August 20th, 2004, 08:53 AM
Well that 'now' pic is still outdated isnt it? The ends where the stands were removed now have roofing.

It's big and okay to look at but I think the MCG will look nicer when its redevelopment is complete.

Shuzstar
August 20th, 2004, 09:16 AM
it looks shit, even AAMI stadiums better.

fro
August 20th, 2004, 09:27 AM
it looks shit, even AAMI stadiums better.
I agree to some extent. The temporary wings at either end were apparently built to accommodate the Olympic opening ceremony (as well as reducing the capacity a more manageable ~80000 post games). I think the design of the stadium suffered due to this fact, I would much rather have preferred the stadium to be built permanently with a capacity of a solid 90000, something on the scale of Wembly. Anyway, that's all the past now.

But it's the largest, most configurable stadium in the Country and that's got to count for something. Might have 60000+ for the AFL there tomorrow night.

christarrant
August 20th, 2004, 11:29 AM
http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/photos/telstrastadium2.jpg

culwulla, your "now" pic is quite old !!! here is a more current picture at daytime, roof lites up at nite. Studium now only holds 83,500. looks ok to me !

hoffburger
August 20th, 2004, 11:36 AM
thats a much better pic of the stadium oz, i dont know how anyone can call it this shit or even begin to compare it to aami stadium

Adder-Laid
August 20th, 2004, 11:47 AM
Mind Shuzstar, he's our resident buffoon...

I like it a lot... and I've always likened it since it's post-olympic reconfiguration to a giant potato chip :)

Jimmy James
August 20th, 2004, 01:32 PM
Was the roof supposed to close or is Telstra Dome the only stadium in Oz where this can happen? Also - Funny how Sydney actually needed all that extra capacity - I didn't notice any extra wings on any Athens venues!

CULWULLA
August 20th, 2004, 04:21 PM
yeah i didnt think anyone would notice.lol the 2nd pic is 2002. so its just 2 years old .
i still think its one of the finest venues in the country! im going to it next month to watch Australian school athletics.

Shuzstar
August 21st, 2004, 11:08 AM
the roofs on the wings are better, and it looks better than AAMI stadium now, but i dont like the straight cut lines in the roof, it needs to be curved. then it is a great stadium.

chrisaus
August 21st, 2004, 11:13 AM
lol @ 'AAMI' stadium

Drunkill
August 21st, 2004, 12:54 PM
[QUOTE=CULWULLA]heres a pic of Olympic stadium in June 2001, just 3 months before Olympics
notice the wings. this was capacity for 115,000
image
now its 80,000 cap with removal of stands
image
[QUOTE]

note the "June 2001, just 3 months before Olympics": last time i checked the games were in 2000 not 2001 :D

but yeah, it looks cool, i like the ground outside the venue, the tiles the colours are kinda cool. when i went there in 2001 it was very open, but hey it was a big crowd at the time. good for skating i have heard heh

PS: Telstra dome can open and slose roof, so can rod laver arena (tennis) and Vodafone arena (also tennis and cycling)

AG
August 21st, 2004, 02:04 PM
Does anyone know how they dismantled the extra stands at the end? Were they built as temporary sections or were they originally built to be permanently part of the stadium?

BTW Shuzstar, make up your mind about your opinion, you seem to change it so easily after other people make varying comments. You said it was worse than AAMI Stadium originally, now you are saying it is better, so which one is it?

Adder-Laid
August 21st, 2004, 02:21 PM
AG, they were intended to be temporary... not sure how quickly they came down though...

As for the roof, I should really be asking this at my local stadiums forum, but a friend of mine insists that she's read in a brochure that the Stadium Australia roof is designed to close... I've always known it to be fixed, and it looks to be designed so that opening/closing capabilities would be quite restricted even if they ever added this as a feature later on...

We've had many an argument over this, and I'd like to finally prove her wrong once and for all! ;)

jacobsian
August 21st, 2004, 02:24 PM
lol @ 'AAMI' stadium

lol @ a 4.4 million dollar sponsorship deal over 4 years that funded 51,000 new individual bucket seats and injected the leftover million into grassroots football development.

lol @ the WAFC's 25 million dollar debt

lol @ crazy johns stadium

dynamoultraclean
August 21st, 2004, 03:09 PM
One thing that is a drawback is the ramps in each of the corners. Never liked them, but I do love the way it looks now.

Adder-Laid
August 27th, 2004, 11:27 AM
bump?

MILIUX
August 27th, 2004, 12:00 PM
The world's largest kettle chip.

Brizbane2
August 27th, 2004, 01:50 PM
Sorry, but I think that architecturally Telstra stadium is a dog of a stadium. It could have been so much better. I admit though that it is very Sydney, and therefore does a good job of speaking the local architectural language. Whether that architectural language is something to be boasted about, Im not so sure.

We dont really have any good big stadiums in Australia, were more interested in cramming in the seats that producing quality stadia architecture.

Now look at the Athens stadium. That is so much more sophisticated, than our little aussie battler.

Adder-Laid
August 27th, 2004, 08:01 PM
Honestly? They used a fair bit of ingenuity with those retractable seats IMO....

Avatar
August 30th, 2004, 11:11 AM
Sorry, but I think that architecturally Telstra stadium is a dog of a stadium. It could have been so much better. I admit though that it is very Sydney, and therefore does a good job of speaking the local architectural language. Whether that architectural language is something to be boasted about, Im not so sure.

We dont really have any good big stadiums in Australia, were more interested in cramming in the seats that producing quality stadia architecture.

Now look at the Athens stadium. That is so much more sophisticated, than our little aussie battler.

Our little Aussie battler was was superior to the smaller Athens venue. An old reject of a stadium with a calatrava roof does not constitute a mind-numbing architectual icon IMO. Beijing will be something altogether different though. The original Cox design for our stadium was amazing in every respect - they should have built it instead.

CULWULLA
August 30th, 2004, 02:21 PM
who cares what a stadium looks like? lol !
i reckon the average joe blow couldnt give a fuk about its architecture! they just want easy access, to be comfortable and sit down with a good view and drink grog and chomp ona hotdog to watch there beloved team win!!! the atmosphere is a mjor factor also which Telstra stadium has alot of! ive beent here with 100,000 watching cathy freeman run the 400m at 2000 Olympics! Ive also watched Wallabies triumph! watched a aussie cricket match and many athletic championships. the stadium is brilliant! anyone who has been there with a big crowd knows what im talking about. last thing i took notice of was its architecture! lol. all i know is it was massive and looks great at night!
end of story!! hehe !
serious

zion
August 30th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Sydney's OLYMPIC Stadium: I reckon is great looking stadium! It would be Australia's first fully design stadium for 80,000+. Give it a few more years, and it become Sydney's sporting institution (like the MCG to Melbourne)

fro
August 31st, 2004, 01:51 AM
Yeah, the Beijing Colympic stadium will be awesome. If some can source some high res renders of that beauty I would be enternally greatful.

m01lim
September 2nd, 2004, 02:13 PM
Avatar or anybody else do you have any pictures of the original sydney proposal you mentioned?

Thanks

Avatar
September 2nd, 2004, 03:48 PM
yeah i do actually but i will have to find them

Aussie Steve
September 3rd, 2004, 01:59 AM
Australian Stadiums (http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/special/sydneyolympic.php)
There were several stadium designs proposed to play host as the main stadium for the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games. Below are some of them. In the end, Stadium Australia was constructed to be the main stadium.

http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/special/photos/sydneyolympic.jpg

http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/special/photos/sydney_olympic2.jpg

http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/special/photos/sydney_olympic3.jpg

http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/special/photos/sydney_olympic4.jpg

Aussie Steve
September 3rd, 2004, 02:18 AM
Beijing Olympic Stadium

Capacity 100,000

http://www.archidose.org/Jun03/beijing2.jpg

http://www.archidose.org/Jun03/beijing4.jpg

http://www.archidose.org/Jun03/beijing3.jpg

http://www.archidose.org/Jun03/beijing1.jpg

Avatar
September 3rd, 2004, 04:57 AM
yis the bottom is the one I was refering to, by phillip cox the design is awesome and should have been conctructed.

Even the 2nd one is better than what we ended up with.... but 1st one is a dogs' vomit.

m01lim
September 4th, 2004, 02:37 AM
The last design looks fantastic. Thanks for the images.

Mephisto
September 4th, 2004, 04:29 AM
I don't like either of those 3 other designs, I'm glad they went with what we've got now.

ExSydney
September 4th, 2004, 02:34 PM
Check this out from the Sydney Olympic bid way back in 1992.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/dantm/stad/stadausprop1992.jpg

Anyway,apart from that,I think Telstra Stadium is a spectacular looking stadium!...Pringle Chip..slouch hat..whatever....a great design!

http://home.iprimus.com.au/dantm/stad/TelstraStadium2004.jpg

Amaruu
September 6th, 2004, 08:18 AM
If atmosphere is what you really want, then you can't beat the Telstra Dome at Docklands. It may not have the biggest capacity, but with the roof completely shut, the atmosphere at a big game is amazing.

The only time I have had to literally block my ears at a sporting event was when Collingwood beat Brisbane by 4 points in 2002 at Telstra Dome. The noise was almost deafening.

rondeez
September 6th, 2004, 01:33 PM
If atmosphere is what you really want, then you can't beat the Telstra Dome at Docklands. It may not have the biggest capacity, but with the roof completely shut, the atmosphere at a big game is amazing.

The only time I have had to literally block my ears at a sporting event was when Collingwood beat Brisbane by 4 points in 2002 at Telstra Dome. The noise was almost deafening.

Im sure the QLD'ers will disagree to that.

Suncorp stadium [when packed out off course.. which is only a few times a year] would be just as good... especially for the State of Origin.

RUM
September 7th, 2004, 12:04 AM
Im sure the QLD'ers will disagree to that.

Suncorp stadium [when packed out off course.. which is only a few times a year] would be just as good... especially for the State of Origin.

Yes, I would agree to that. I have been to 2 SoO there now, and the noise is deafening.

Amaruu
September 7th, 2004, 01:15 AM
Well I have never been to Suncorp Stadium to be able to compare. All I know is that at Telstra Dome, with the roof completely shut, it encloses the atmosphere. So when the crowd roars, the roar bounces off the roof and stays in the stadium. It doesnt go out to the sky. That was my point.

rondeez
September 7th, 2004, 07:29 AM
Well I have never been to Suncorp Stadium to be able to compare. All I know is that at Telstra Dome, with the roof completely shut, it encloses the atmosphere. So when the crowd roars, the roar bounces off the roof and stays in the stadium. It doesnt go out to the sky. That was my point.

Yup fair enough. I havent been myself but apparently it is the best RL ground in the country. Its close to the action. The closed roof would be awesome though!

The West Sydney Razorbacks sold out games at the puny 3000 seat state sport centre shit all over the sydney kings games at the 20,000 seated superdome games... who have since moved back to syd entertainment due to low crowds.
I guess it just proves that bigger aint neccessarily better :D

Mr. T
October 22nd, 2004, 09:20 PM
[QUOTE=Aussie Steve]

http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/special/photos/sydney_olympic2.jpg

I really like this design. I thik it would have done well as a great Olympic Stadium.

barneybuck
October 23rd, 2004, 04:07 AM
This could prove to be a big problem for TS to balance the books.

Cricket puts its trust in the SCG
By Roy Masters
October 23, 2004

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At midday on Thursday, Telstra Stadium chief executive Ken Edwards was sure he had won the rights to host some international one-day matches at the Olympic Park venue from the end of the 2004-05 season, when the venue's current contract with Cricket NSW expires.

But that was before the SCG Trust came in with a huge offer, almost trebling the $5.5 million-$6m it currently pays Cricket NSW annually. The condition of the final offer was that no games be played at Telstra Stadium. When Edwards countered with an offer guaranteeing $70m over five years late on Thursday night, he was told he was too late.

Rodney Cavalier, chairman of the Trust, described a $60m-$70m fee for cricket until the end of 2009-2010 as "way out" but cricket sources insist it is accurate.

Asked if he had paid too much, a triumphant Cavalier said: "We'll never know the answer to that. The tradition of the SCG is priceless, beyond $70million. We couldn't have paid too much because we won."

However, the chairman of Cricket NSW, Bob Horsell, who led the review committee that accepted the Trust's offer, described it as "a very substantial project, which amounts to a lot of money".

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He admitted he had been optimistic about playing matches at Telstra and was influenced by the massive last-ditch offer, saying: "Cricket was always prepared to play all or some of its matches at both venues. Certain things happened at the end of the negotiation period that changed the board's thinking."

But Cavalier dismissed any significance in the 11th-hour bid, saying: "From day one, our bid was always about getting all international cricket. There were nine selection criteria and only one of those referred to finance. As a world cricket facility, the SCG is equal to Lord's or No.2 to Lord's. Behind it is daylight."

When earlier negotiations with Cavalier and Horsell's committee stalled, three trustees - Tony Shepherd of Transfield, QBE Insurance's John Cloney and Rod McGeoch - became involved.

Paying tribute to them, Cavalier said: "These are three men of considerable substance and indicates the serious nature of the way we approached the bid. Tony Shepherd got a double in a week. He pulled off the tollway deal in Melbourne."

But heavy hitters were needed because of the strong possibility the Trust would lose its future revenue source from membership fees. When Telstra Stadium was asked how it would cater for SCG members in the event of international cricket matches being played there, it offered to create a cricket members-only area at the ground, potentially behind the wicket. It suggested Cricket NSW could use this as an additional source of revenue from subscribers, rather than the Trust.

Potentially, Cricket NSW would have earned income from 15,000 members and deprived the Trust of $12m annually. When the Trust became aware of this, it was compelled to make a win-at-all-costs bid.

The five-year deal expires before the 2011 World Cup, which is expected to be in Australia, offering Telstra Stadium hope the time frame of the contract is designed to exploit its 81,500 capacity. Sydney will not be in a position to host the World Cup final if it is still tied to the SCG because its 43,500-spectator capacity is considered inadequate. Under the new contract, the 2011 final would be awarded to the larger MCG or even Brisbane's refurbished Gabba.

Horsell conceded the timing of the World Cup was an issue in the length of the contract, saying: "Sydney will not get the final if it hasn't a venue to compare with the MCG's 85,000 capacity. This is on our agenda for the next contract period."

With India expected to pitch for the 2011 World Cup, Australia is not guaranteed to host the tournament and state cricket authorities anticipate the NSW and Victorian governments putting their respective weights behind the bid. The NSW Government, anxious to simultaneously inject value into Telstra Stadium and attract the World Cup final to Sydney, would be encouraged to table an offer to assist hosting the major 2011 matches at Telstra.

However, yesterday's $60m-$70m legal commitment from the Trust, a NSW Government-controlled body, raises the question of how Premier Bob Carr can simultaneously support both stadiums for excessive amounts.

Serious concerns were being expressed within hours of yesterday's announcement over how the Trust could possibly fund its commitment to Cricket NSW.

The decision surprised most observers, who expected a split of international matches between the two Sydney stadiums. Major sports covet competition between stadiums and seek a mix of events.

With the West Indies and South Africa scheduled to tour Australia in 2005-06 - the first year of the new contract - it was widely anticipated the international matches involving the three countries would be shared between the SCG and Telstra Stadium, with one-dayers involving Australia played at the bigger ground in the heart of the thirsty western suburbs.

Horsell, a 50-year member of the SCG, conceded he had been confident matches would be played at Telstra, telling the Herald midweek: "One has to be realistic. Personally, I think it is fantastic for cricket to take the game to the people. The west of Sydney is one of the greatest demographics anyone can dig up. It would be irresponsible of administrators if they didn't take the opportunities offered by the west."

Initially, the two stadiums were asked to submit bids in terms of five-, seven- and 10-year terms. Telstra Stadium responded with an offer of $140m over 10 years for all international matches, but this was dependent on minimum attendances at Tests.

When it was apparent Cricket NSW would retain most international cricket matches at the SCG, Telstra was invited to bid for internationals over a five-year term. It offered $50m for all matches as a framework but was told this was inadequate and eventually countered with a guarantee of $70m, which was rejected as too late.

The Trust's determination to prevent any internationals heading west has been interpreted by Telstra Stadium supporters as a fear these matches would generate a wave of support for cricket at Homebush.

After all, Horsell said midweek: "We've played ING matches there the last two years and we plan to play a day-night match between NSW and Queensland there on January 15. Last year's day-nighter attracted 26,000."

However, Cricket NSW chief executive Dave Gilbert conceded Edwards's disappointment at Telstra Stadium not being awarded any internationals might result in him aborting the planned January game.

"It remains to be seen what Telstra's attitude will be," he said. "Domestic cricket doesn't generate the same revenues as international cricket and they may decide the game is not viable."

Underlying the stadiums' bidding duel is a beer war. Lion Nathan holds pourage rights at Telstra Stadium, while CUB has exclusive control over beer sold at the SCG and Aussie Stadium. A one-day cricket match on a hot day at Telstra would see Lion Nathan selling many thousands of litres of Tooheys.

But CUB's pourage rights at the SCG conclude at the end of next year, meaning it was important for the Trust to be in a position to offer the brewery thirsty cricket patrons as a reason to renew the contract.

A CUB source said: "Contractually, we are being eroded at the SCG and the Sydney Football Stadium with the Swans using Telstra as the venue for big matches, cricket having a couple of one-dayers there and Souths transferring rugby league games to Gosford. The Trust had to hold onto the cricket and we expect them to try and recoup some of the money when pourage rights are renegotiated at the end of 2005 ."

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Pura Cup: NSW v Tasmania

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Third Test: Australia v Pakistan

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VB Series: Australia v Pakistan (D/N)

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Macca-GC
October 23rd, 2004, 04:08 AM
^I disagree. That's probably my least favourite.

^^I think Suncorp Stadium would have the best atmosphere in Australia. I was there August 2nd last year when Australia beat South Africa, ending our losing streak. It was absolutely amazing. Haven't been to Telstra Dome, but I'm sure it would be great as well. One thing about the design of Suncorp Stadium, because it is in a residential area, it was designed to keep the light and the noise in.

ExSydney
October 23rd, 2004, 02:42 PM
Pathetic decision

They couldve of at least given 1 to Telstra...Now Brisbane ,with an upgraded venue have a chance to pinch a final of Sydney..something that wouldve been impossible if the venue seated 80,000.

As for the SCG,they are paying $70 million for 3 games(and 1 test)
They are the ones that have to balance their books

They really had no choice considering the trust have lost ALL their revenue raising events.The biggest events in Sydney go to Telstra.Rugby World Cup,Grand Finals,State of Origin,Rugby Tests,Bledisloe Cups,The biggest Swans matches,the double header NRL,the prelim NRL final.......These used to be held by the SCG trust

Macca-GC
October 24th, 2004, 10:53 PM
I think that, if we get the World Cup, the final should be at the MCG. By that time, the capacity will be 100,000. You can't beat that.

Auxodium
October 27th, 2004, 05:50 PM
i wouldn't be suprosed if that happens.


The Olympic precinct looks VERY dead, like a western ghost town :o

Macca-GC
October 27th, 2004, 10:56 PM
Yeah, Homebush is just too isolated.

SydneyDude
October 28th, 2004, 08:23 AM
i wouldn't be suprosed if that happens.


The Olympic precinct looks VERY dead, like a western ghost town :o

That is just plain not true!

While olympic park isn't the most happening place at the moment, it is most definately NOT a western ghost town. Many large events happen annually at Telstra stadium (block buster AFL games, NRL games and grand finals, Cricket, Rugby union) not to mention huge events that have happened since the olympics such as last years rugby world cup. The superdome hosts many concerts such as last weeks ARIAs and Disney on ice,and has hosted international artists such as Eminem. Not to mention the largest annual event in this country, the Sydney Royal Easter Show.

And also you have the acquatic centre which is very popular all year round, as well as the parkland and bicycle tracks which attract families over the weekend.

So yeh it isn't quite as bad as you described :)

Wezza
October 28th, 2004, 10:49 AM
i wouldn't be suprosed if that happens.


The Olympic precinct looks VERY dead, like a western ghost town :o
Sport is not played 24/7, hence the reason there is not alot of people there most of the time!
As for Australia hosting a world cup (not that it will happen anytime soon) I don't think the MCG should host the final purely because it's a round field, besides looking wrong, the seats would be along way from the field. Just my opinion anyway. :)

Macca-GC
October 29th, 2004, 02:42 PM
^Now, admittably, I don't like cricket, but I thought they DID play on round fields. I just don't get it.

And also, it's a round oval. you're always going to be far away from the action. Not like rectangle ovals.

noir attitcus
October 29th, 2004, 02:47 PM
Sport is not played 24/7, hence the reason there is not alot of people there most of the time!
As for Australia hosting a world cup (not that it will happen anytime soon) I don't think the MCG should host the final purely because it's a round field, besides looking wrong, the seats would be along way from the field. Just my opinion anyway. :)

The MCG redevelopment includes configurable seating, for different events. I imagine this would cover a soccer/rugby setting (although I doubt they'd get it completely square).

They are in the process of 'squaring' the MCG right now in preparation for installation of the Olympic-scale athletics track for the 2006 Games.

ExSydney
October 29th, 2004, 03:26 PM
Yeah, Homebush is just too isolated.

Isolated ?????


Check your map

Macca-GC
November 14th, 2004, 03:38 PM
OK, Let me re-phrase, it is more isolated from the people than Moore Park

sakor1
November 18th, 2004, 02:19 PM
And also, it's a round oval. you're always going to be far away from the action. Not like rectangle ovals.

:wtf: :lol:

Stu

MILIUX
November 19th, 2004, 01:27 AM
It'll be so mad to hire Stadium Australia for receptions. St Ignatius Reverview hired the hole of Superdome for their formal/graduation. Like 150 bucks a pop, all the ex-students associations were there.

Didn't the Shore Boys hire the velendrome?

Macca-GC
November 19th, 2004, 03:30 AM
Hillsong hires the SuperDome each year. They're hiring Telstra Stadium next year.

Tancred
November 19th, 2004, 04:46 AM
I think that, if we get the World Cup, the final should be at the MCG. By that time, the capacity will be 100,000. You can't beat that.

If Australia ever gets the world cup I really doubt the final will be at the MCG. It might be the greatest cricket stadium in the world, but it's far from the best football stadium. The fans are too far from the pitch. It's also not the most atmospheric of stadiums.

I feel that Stadium Australia would get the final being a the largest football stadium in the country. I'm not sure the MCG would host the opening ceremony and first game either. For an event the size of the world cup, Melbourne Major Events money might not be enough to sway the decision makers.

Fabian
November 19th, 2004, 04:53 AM
Yeah, Homebush is just too isolated.

Telstra Stadium happens to be in the perfect location. It is located very close to the geographical centre of the city and it's not too far from the CBD - about 13km. It is also around 5km from Parramatta. Most importantly it is located in the western suburbs where the bulk of Sydney's population lives.

I also find that for the majority of Sydneysiders, it is just accessible as the SFS and SCG at Moore Park. Transport connections are better particularly with Olympic Park having it's own Railway Station and special event bus services which connect every part of Sydney with Olympic Park. I don't think anyone in Sydney has drive more than a hour to get there. Also Everytime there is a sporting fixture or special event at Moore Park, the roads around there are clogged up and those who drive find it hard to obtain parking (even with the special carparks opened up). Public transport despite it's inner city location is a bit more limited with people forced to use buses to get there.

Grollo
November 19th, 2004, 06:18 AM
If Australia ever gets the world cup I really doubt the final will be at the MCG. It might be the greatest cricket stadium in the world, but it's far from the best football stadium. The fans are too far from the pitch. It's also not the most atmospheric of stadiums.

I feel that Stadium Australia would get the final being a the largest football stadium in the country. I'm not sure the MCG would host the opening ceremony and first game either. For an event the size of the world cup, Melbourne Major Events money might not be enough to sway the decision makers.

If Australia ever did get the world cup it is such a massive event that it would be worth the money to put in moveable seating like at Telstra Stadium and Dome. If they put in more setaing, with the smaller pitch they could probably fit 110,000.

barneybuck
November 19th, 2004, 10:05 PM
The huge atvantage that the MCG (apart from its sheer size) and MelbourneTennis centre ,Vodafone Arena, Olympic Park and Telstra Dome to a lesser extent have is that they are all very close to the CBD and have fantastic public transport access.
Its wonderfull after an event to get to the centre of town to celebrate so easily. The same cannot be said about TS in Sydney its more like the old AFL stadium at Waverley remote,plastic and lacking atmosphere.

rondeez
November 20th, 2004, 08:57 AM
Stadium Australia looks great after the renovations.

Defintiely the best stadium in the country at the moment in my biased opinion HAHA... ok maybe second to Parramatta Stadium :D

ExSydney
November 20th, 2004, 08:28 PM
The huge atvantage that the MCG (apart from its sheer size) and MelbourneTennis centre ,Vodafone Arena, Olympic Park and Telstra Dome to a lesser extent have is that they are all very close to the CBD and have fantastic public transport access.
Its wonderfull after an event to get to the centre of town to celebrate so easily. The same cannot be said about TS in Sydney its more like the old AFL stadium at Waverley remote,plastic and lacking atmosphere.

What crap.....Tell that to Cathy Freeman or even English Rugby coach Clive woodword who said it was the most amazing atmosphere he has ever experienced.....The mcg isnt as great as many down here like to think it is.....

Tancred
November 20th, 2004, 11:40 PM
The huge atvantage that the MCG (apart from its sheer size) and MelbourneTennis centre ,Vodafone Arena, Olympic Park and Telstra Dome to a lesser extent have is that they are all very close to the CBD and have fantastic public transport access.
Its wonderfull after an event to get to the centre of town to celebrate so easily. The same cannot be said about TS in Sydney its more like the old AFL stadium at Waverley remote,plastic and lacking atmosphere.

When an event is on at Homebush, and the "event timetable" is running homebush has excellent public transport.

Having attended major football games at both stadiums, homebush is by far the more atmospheric stadium, and the fans are closer to the action.

barneybuck
November 21st, 2004, 02:00 AM
What crap.....Tell that to Cathy Freeman or even English Rugby coach Clive woodword who said it was the most amazing atmosphere he has ever experienced.....The mcg isnt as great as many down here like to think it is.....

Wait till its finished mate the MCG will be sensational and dont forget it also was an Olympic stadium
What I was comparing was the remoteness of the Sydney Olymic complex to the CBD and how it reminded me of the old VFL/AFL Park at Waverley that was also stuck way out in the burbs

CULWULLA
November 21st, 2004, 03:12 AM
remoteness? nah, Homebush is perfect for Sydney's metro population,. Sydney is BIG and reuqires access from all areas.transport is great! homebush even has its own station.
you dont have to have large sporting compelxes near the CBD. especiialy when most sport nuts are from western suburbs.
see melb is dif to sydney. we have large cities outside of CBD, unlike melb which is basically the city of melbourne. near homebush we have parramatta, liverpool, strathfield, ryde list goes on and on.....
it gives most of population easier access to these venues instead of lumping them all in the CBD.
by the way. Homebush stadium with 115,000 most nights for the olympics was nothing short of sensational. i was there to watch athletics and saw freeman run.best atmosphere ever!!

christarrant
November 21st, 2004, 08:12 AM
I agree that the Homebush set up is bloody fantastic. the whole joint is dedicated to sport and entertainment and with all of the apartments and offices currently going up there I think it will be a much more atmospheric place in a few years time. I do agree with barneybuck that it would be excellent to have half a dozen pubs,more cafes and stuff to make it a 'bit' more like the MCG and COlonial. I totally disagree with him about everything else, Homebush is hands down a class act.

Citystyle
January 17th, 2005, 08:05 AM
lol @ a 4.4 million dollar sponsorship deal over 4 years that funded 51,000 new individual bucket seats and injected the leftover million into grassroots football development.

lol @ the WAFC's 25 million dollar debt

lol @ crazy johns stadium

Its not going to be called crazzy thank god. It would have got rid of the deot tho. Also the dept is now 30 million thanks to judd. :cheers1:

Macca-GC
January 22nd, 2005, 06:32 AM
If Australia ever gets the world cup I really doubt the final will be at the MCG. It might be the greatest cricket stadium in the world, but it's far from the best football stadium. The fans are too far from the pitch. It's also not the most atmospheric of stadiums.

I feel that Stadium Australia would get the final being a the largest football stadium in the country. I'm not sure the MCG would host the opening ceremony and first game either. For an event the size of the world cup, Melbourne Major Events money might not be enough to sway the decision makers.


You do realise that we were talking about the CRICKET WORLD CUP???