View Full Version : #Projects/Proposed: Rockdale Developments
Fabian November 23rd, 2002, 10:48 PM I took these construction photos of some developments in Rockdale in Sydney's south about a month ago. It's about time I post them.
Firstly I dont know the name of this one. Stupid me. They are doing some work on the roof at present.
http://genjaro.image.pbase.com/u16/fabianamuso/medium/7747175.MVC803X.jpg
Shalala???????
http://jjj.image.pbase.com/u16/fabianamuso/large/7747288.MVC802X.jpg
http://jjj.image.pbase.com/u16/fabianamuso/medium/7747239.MVC801X.jpg
Rockdale Station
Cityrail should get this done by early next year
http://genjaro.image.pbase.com/u16/fabianamuso/medium/7747205.MVC806X.jpg
There are a number of other developments going on or have already completed. Hope to get some pictures in the not too distant future.
CULWULLA November 24th, 2002, 01:04 AM Yeah i went out last month and collected info for the 12st+ database for skyscrapers.com. and there are many that just miss out on being 12st+. All the newer developments seem to be 9-10 storeys high.there is some nice unit architecture coming along!
:)
finn November 24th, 2002, 02:01 AM Great job Fabian! :okay:
Don't be worried about taking a while to post the pics - I have Rockdale construction pics from 6 months ago that i still haven't posted! ;)
The first picture is of "Southern Cross Apartments", and as for Shalala (hehehe ;)), I think that is the name of the developers, not the building. If you go and look at the completed 10 storey tower "The Astor" (or Aston...can't remember) a few doors down, it has a plaque for its opening, and it has the Shalala name on it as well.
There is so much construction happening in Rockdale, but like Culwulla said, the limit tends to be 10 storeys in the section where your pics are taken Fabian.
And if you've ever been around this area when they're using the east-west runway at the airport, and they're coming in for landings, you'd understand why! The planes come in so low!!! They basically look they're about 50m above the buildings!
So the twelve storey+ towers tend to be located further south around Rockdale Plaza, and along the railway (Rockdale Gardens).
Here are some other recently completed or under construction towers in Rockdale - the first one here "The Landmark" is probably my favourite, and is now being excavated.
The Landmark
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/128/x1831sc15-17_bryant_st_rockdale.jpg
Bayview
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/143/x2580scking_st_.jpg
558-560 Princes Hwy, Rockdale
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/70/x7008sc558_princess_hwy_rockdale.jpg
Aurora
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7851/1267851mm1028769847.jpg
Arena
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/68/x3698scarena1_.jpg
Image Apartments
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/69/x6855scprinces_hwy_613-615.jpg
Highdale
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/125/x6555scdsc00400.jpg
Rockdale Gardens
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/65/x9533sckeats_ave_rockdale_gardens.jpg
Ashton Square
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/40/x8818sc8ashtonst-1.jpg
The Rocks Apartments
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/50/x5594sc2market.jpg
Sienna
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/3130/1543130mm1037592657.jpg
Fabian November 24th, 2002, 04:18 AM 558-560 Princess Highway is well under construction and is around level 4 or five.
Image apartments has topped out.
and 8-12 Market Street has been completed for some time.
Arena has been cleared out.
I'll need to take some time to check out Rockdale and take some new photos.
Also Finn, I was curious as to the address of the Landmark. I've never seen or heard of this one.
finn November 24th, 2002, 06:26 AM Landmark is next to "The Rocks Apartments" and "Sienna Apartments" on Market St.
It is on the corner of Market and Bryant, and was previously a petrol station. In the rendering of The Landmark you can see the two grey block forms of The Rocks and Sienna further down the street.
Also, Sienna (8-12 Market St) is indeed topped out, but they are still working on the internal construction.
If you head down that way, could you have a look and see if "Aurora" has started construction yet? Last time I was there they had cleared the site, but not started yet. Aurora is on the same block as Sienna and The Rocks, but behind them, and fronting George St.
Fabian December 2nd, 2002, 09:15 PM I managed to get a picture of 558-560 Princes Hwy on Saturday. I think there is only one floor to go until topping out
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p2437d0ceca338e0ff28a17ff1de68a89/fcfd98e9.jpg
Rockdale Station
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/pe712b602f134260c81b6f600fccc9bc9/fcfd9900.jpg
Shalala???????
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p3646efa31c8fd7ce12ce07638c3766c1/fcfd98cb.jpg
CULWULLA December 2nd, 2002, 10:49 PM its a shame none of the new ones are 12st+ scrapers. most seem to be 9-10floors.:)
Fabian December 3rd, 2002, 05:39 AM It's a bit disappointing we aren't seeing 12 storey towers in the area. There are potential areas that we could see some towers rise.
finn December 3rd, 2002, 07:49 AM Like I said, its all because of the flight paths in that area - they are so low right over the area around Target!
They will build taller around areas like Rockdale Gardens and Rockdale Plaza. I'm amazed they've even been able to build up to 10 storeys in some of the areas they have!
You've just got to head down there when they're landing on the East-West runway from the western end, and you'll see what I mean!
Fabian December 3rd, 2002, 11:43 AM I notice that when planes fly over Rockdale, they tend to fly north of the shopping strip. The main commercial area of Rockdale is not directly under the path.
I cannot see any problem building the highrises south of Bryant Street where the main shopping strip is.
finn December 3rd, 2002, 12:10 PM Originally posted by Fabian
I notice that when planes fly over Rockdale, they tend to fly north of the shopping strip. The main commercial area of Rockdale is not directly under the path.
I cannot see any problem building the highrises south of Bryant Street where the main shopping strip is.
These towers are only barely south of Bryant St - like on the block directly south of it.
Flight paths are not along specific finite lines because the planes are controlled by pilots as well as well as the mechanisms of the machines - they need a bit of a buffer zone for slight errors or difficult weather.
It looks like the 10 storey limit in this area of Rockdale is the master-plan - although I know they had taller buildings proposed for the Target site at one stage.
Fabian December 3rd, 2002, 08:08 PM Talking about heights, the council does not have a maximum height limit, but restrictions are placed on sites. However zoning determines what can be built and height limits are usually placed in areas of lower density.
finn December 3rd, 2002, 11:12 PM Originally posted by Fabian
Talking about heights, the council does not have a maximum height limit, but restrictions are placed on sites. However zoning determines what can be built and height limits are usually placed in areas of lower density.
Yeah, it seems like they would definitely allow them to go higher. since that 20 storey tower is under construction at Wolli Creek!
I think they probably will allow higher buildings around Rockdale Plaza and eventually along West Botany St behind the Plaza, because that area is way out of line with the flight paths.
Fabian December 4th, 2002, 08:41 AM The Wolli Creek area is not under any flightpaths and is a fairway from them, so taller towers such as proximity can be built.
finn December 4th, 2002, 09:23 AM Originally posted by Fabian
The Wolli Creek area is not under any flightpaths and is a fairway from them, so taller towers such as proximity can be built.
Yes, Wolli Creek is veeeeery close to the airport, and sits between two runways, so it would technically impossible for a plane to fly over Wolli Creek and take off or land on the runways.
So no extra noise, no major height limits, and they can build nice tall buildings! :)
Fabian December 16th, 2002, 01:26 AM The cladding for Image Apartments seems different to what is shown in the rendering. I've seen some white and even purple painted walls. I'll have to look at it again when passing the site next time.
Also work has commenced on the Arena site with the buildings on site demolished and a sales office has been opened on the Princes Highway not far down (next to Lombardo music ).
finn December 16th, 2002, 02:14 AM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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Yes, I noticed that about Image Apartments as well - primarily white with a couple of purple feature walls - looks far better than the rendering! Quite pleasing! :)
Tony P December 16th, 2002, 03:00 AM Anything would look better than the 'Image' rendering!!!
:puke:
It's great the amount of development going on down in Rockdale and all along the southern railway line up to Rockdale. Hopefully a lot more to come! Should be a great area to live in a decade when there's more density added and more people move in. I'd say Rockdale is a very wise investment at the moment. If our boy Franky Sartor gets in as local MP, watch out for big things (unfortunately I don't mean skyscrapers) in that area. He'll be able to get a mammoth amount of money from Mr Carr to pretty up the place!
finn December 16th, 2002, 04:15 AM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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:puke:
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Hahaha, too true!
Maybe they should do crappy renderings for all developments, just so we are always pleased when the buildings don't end up as crappy as the pictures show! ;)
Fabian December 18th, 2002, 05:17 AM I saw a photo of the nearly completed Image in Domain which is the real estate liftout of the St George and Sutherland Shire Leader. It looked more white than the colours shown in the rendering.
finn December 18th, 2002, 07:47 AM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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Yes, it is totally white, with the exception of the slim blade like parts of the tower - which are purple.
Fabian December 20th, 2002, 05:35 AM Went past Rockdale on the train yesterday. Not much to report except for 558-560 Princes Hwy where another floor has been added. The floorplate has shrink. There is another floor to go before topping out. It appears fairly tall too and stands out for that part of Rockdale.
eddie December 20th, 2002, 11:22 AM An application is about to go into Rockdale Council for a 167 apartment project on the site of the old EFCO lock factory (corner of Princes Highway and Kyle St).
I have seen the design and they look really shmick - like what you would see in Paddington or East Sydney.
It should at least pretty up an ugly stretch of the highway.
EDDIE
finn December 20th, 2002, 11:34 AM Sounds interesting Eddie! Thaks for the info - I'll keep my eyes open for any info or renderings in the local news! :)
Fabian December 20th, 2002, 09:40 PM The development Eddie has just refered to is not at Rockdale but Arncliffe. It's just up the highway from Wolli Creek.
finn December 20th, 2002, 11:58 PM It would be excellent to eventually have a stretch of high quality developments running along the highway between Wolli Creek and Kogarah! This development at Arncliffe is a great start! There is not much in terms of high-quality stuff up that end, so it should set a nice precedent. :)
Bit by bit the sites along the highway are being rezoned, and redeveloped as residential/commercial structres, as compared to the car yards and industrial areas of the past.
At the other end of the highway stretch from this development (Rockdale-Kogarah connection), several new developments have recently been built or are planned - mostly residential buildings around 6-7 storeys.
Fabian December 21st, 2002, 12:17 AM Because of all the discussion going on here, I've requested that Tayser re-name this thread as "The Rockdale Development thread." Feel free to continue discussion of developments within the Rockdale area.
Fabian December 22nd, 2002, 03:34 AM I managed to get this construction photo of Image back in October. Behind this is the Ashton Square development and the Rockdale Plaza towers which can't be seen from behind Ashton Square
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/pe41f411c960830ee79e2bab26d907f32/fcfd977b.jpg
Also looks as if a tidal wave is about to hit Sydney lol.
Fabian December 31st, 2002, 09:42 PM Yesterday, I managed to get a photo of the nearly completed Image Apartments. Notice who the cladding is different from the rendering. This is proof.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid44/p5a0a5366d02fff388edb258f648a76f6/fcdb5f2d.jpg
Here's a new one of 558-60 Princes Highway, which has virtually topped out
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid44/p5427603bc5731da255ce3a147f839d08/fcdb608e.jpg
Fabian January 29th, 2003, 02:09 AM I ventured into Rockdale this morning and managed to get the first construction pictures of Focus
The site is fairly big.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/pa5d3fc78755aa08f92e73996887f3b43/fcb70ccc.jpg
A close-up of foundation work
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/pce96ad2a47911caef032374e02f87921/fcb70ccd.jpg
Shalala is now up to the first level
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/p5efb5b91cc3d2a59370f94b76b77c908/fcb70cbe.jpg
Finally, they have been working on the roof section of this apartment tower at the corner of Bay and George Streets for about two months now
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/p13aaa6ed1a2b34d787ad3efb64e8df21/fcb70cc1.jpg
finn February 1st, 2003, 05:02 AM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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<tr><td align=left valign=top>I ventured into Rockdale this morning and managed to get the first construction pictures of Focus
The site is fairly big.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/pa5d3fc78755aa08f92e73996887f3b43/fcb70ccc.jpg
A close-up of foundation work
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid49/pce96ad2a47911caef032374e02f87921/fcb70ccd.jpg
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That is the construction site of Arena, isn't it?
Fabian February 1st, 2003, 11:13 PM It must be Arena then. I've must of made a mix-up.
rob.m February 5th, 2003, 04:55 AM That is correct. Arena will be buit there.
It's going to look great once it's finished. They had a website at one stage but it's gone now. I think it was www.livinginarena.com or something like that.
Fabian February 5th, 2003, 05:59 AM I can give a visual update on some of the projects
The floorplates of tower in Bay st have extended to the footpath. Still at level one
Scaffholding has been removed from the top part of the tower at the corner of George and Bay St.
rob.m February 6th, 2003, 12:13 AM Arena apartments in Rockdale
http://www.liveinthearena.com
CULWULLA February 6th, 2003, 02:16 AM i remember last year i quoted on a model for this DA. i didnt get it :( but its a quality dev!
Fabian February 11th, 2003, 08:58 PM Culwulla, did they want you to make the model? If so that was fairly disappointing.
Meanwhile the $1.4 Million dollar renovations to Rockdale Station were officially opened on Monday by NSW Transport Minister Carl Scully. The renovation included new bus interchanges, ramps and lifts.
I might take some pictures of the completed station soon.
CULWULLA February 11th, 2003, 10:39 PM yeah, i think my quote was too high, oh well maybe next time!:D
Fabian February 26th, 2003, 08:03 PM I got details on the Shalala development.
The actual name of the tower is Shalala on the Bay. Meanwhile construction is up to the second level.
and Apartments for the development at the Corner of Bay and George St's have been put for sale in "The Leader".
rob.m February 27th, 2003, 11:48 PM It's about time they upgraded Rockdale station but damn the design is crap. It looks half finished with all those steal walls exposed everywhere. It looks all wrong :wallbash:
What's your feedback on it?
Fabian March 6th, 2003, 08:14 PM I'm actually pleased with the new station. There is more space, more ticket offices and much more accessible than before. The shops should be ready for occupation soon.
rob.m March 12th, 2003, 11:19 AM http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/7851/1267851mm1028769847.jpg
Aurora Apartments Website (http://www.auroraapts.com.au)
I also heard that there will be a new apartment built right next door to this one. Looks nice though.
Fabian March 12th, 2003, 07:50 PM I now know where it is. I should be able to see it's development. I'll check it out today and tell you what's happening.
rob.m March 18th, 2003, 03:03 AM OK thanks Fabian.
Fabian March 18th, 2003, 05:31 AM I saw a crane on the Aurora site last Thursday. It might of just been there for the day by the looks of it.
finn March 28th, 2003, 09:34 AM Just thought I'd mention that a new crane has gone up in Rockdale, on the site of "The Landmark", seen below!
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/69/x5349sc1north_west_no_text.jpg
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/69/x5349sc2west_no_text.jpg
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/69/x5349sc3north_east_no_text.jpg
The site is on the corner of Market and Bryant Streets, next door to "The Rocks" and "Sienna" apartments, and on the same block as "Aurora".
It's seriously a tough call for me on whether "The Landmark" or "Arena" will be my favourite Rockdale building when they've finished construction - but both are fantastic designs! The past couple of years have been such a total mid-rise tower boom for Rockdale! :)
Here's an Arena pic:
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/68/x3698scarena1_.jpg
Fabian March 28th, 2003, 10:17 AM Cranes have also appeared on the Focus Site and Shalala on the Bay.
And the development I mentioned on the Princes Highway is just about complete. It's not white like I thought it was going to be.
Thanks for those details Finn. I haven't noticed that development.
Fabian March 29th, 2003, 09:39 AM I can say a few more things relating to Rockdale projects.
1. A crane has been added to the Landmark site. It's a very slender crane.
2. I think Focus is approaching ground level in regards to floorplates.
finn March 29th, 2003, 02:52 PM <table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox">
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1. A crane has been added to the Landmark site. It's a very slender crane.
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1. Thats what I just posted about three posts ago!
2. It's called Arena, not Focus.
:)
Fabian March 29th, 2003, 10:53 PM I'm always getting confused by that name. Thanks Finn.
rob.m March 30th, 2003, 02:18 PM Have you noticed the new apartment being built next to the new KFC on Princess Hwy? Any pictures on what that one is going too look like? Also, I wonder what's going to get built where the old Ford car dealership site used to be now that's it's been sold (Right across the road from Black Stump restaurant on Princess Hwy).
Fabian March 30th, 2003, 09:27 PM I haven't seen anything as such relating to such developments on the Princes Highway. I'll have to keep an eye out for details.
Thanks Rob.
finn March 31st, 2003, 05:23 AM Yeah, I've noticed that building under construction, just off the highway. It's about six storeys so far, and it looks like they may be starting on a seventh storey - not sure on that though.
Fabian April 2nd, 2003, 11:12 AM I think it's already topping out. I saw what appears to be the frames for the top floor and roof going up.
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The roof frames look like those on another apartment building under construction in Rockdale, which is on the west side of the railway line, right near to the train station and the "Rockdale Corporate Centre". It is also about 6 storeys.
rob.m April 2nd, 2003, 01:11 PM What about the new indoor leisure centre they are going to start building on West Botany St soon? Are there any rendered pictures/sketches floating around for us to take a look at? :D
Fabian April 3rd, 2003, 07:53 AM No renders or sketches as yet but there was a report in "the leader" the other day as plans are being finalised for the development.
Fabian April 14th, 2003, 11:50 PM Here's how Shalala on the bay is progressing. It is the building going up behind Ashton Tower. It is up to about level 4.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid59/pd57266d77d43c8dc48889f005b307079/fc5a6ce3.jpg
tayser April 30th, 2003, 04:31 PM bumped so as thread wont get deleted
Fabian May 9th, 2003, 05:20 AM Three things
1. shalala now up to level 7/8
2. Crane on Landmark was being adjusted this morning. I think it may be increased
3. Arena is now at ground level.
finn May 9th, 2003, 11:54 AM Thought I'd just add some images of the developments mentioned by Fabian. They are all ten storeys in height, well under construction, and nice designs!
1. Shalala on the Bay
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/69/x3270scbay_st_52.jpg
2. Landmark
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/69/x5349sc1north_west_no_text.jpg
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/69/x5349sc2west_no_text.jpg
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/69/x5349sc3north_east_no_text.jpg
3. Arena
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/68/x3698scarena1_.jpg
rob.m June 10th, 2003, 01:43 PM Here are 2 quick photos from the Southern Star Apartments looking out towards Brighton Le-Sands on a VERY wet day.
PHOTO 1
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/p6667c63253bb8d48e480ab65cf13ad4b/fbf577d4.jpg.orig.jpg
rob.m June 10th, 2003, 01:44 PM PHOTO 2
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/p61e715c9682c07a6779881e8a0d0f419/fbf577ca.jpg.orig.jpg
Fabian June 10th, 2003, 09:53 PM Nice views. The apartment tower is actually known as Southern Cross Apartments not southern star.
Tony P June 11th, 2003, 11:44 AM I love that sexy smooth silver side of Landmark! I wish more apartment blocks dabbled with new and different materials rather than brick, tile and paint.
Thanks for the pics.
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Doh! :D
routemarker June 11th, 2003, 02:59 PM rockdale is really going hard with all the residental development. i suspect it would be one of the most densly poulated areas in sydney in the not too distant future.
Fabian June 11th, 2003, 11:08 PM There is no shortage of sites either.The Princes Highway is full of potential sites in particular between Banksia Station and Bryant St at Rockdale which is home to former industrial sites.
Also there are a number of carparks that are mooted for residential and even possibly commercial development in the Rockdale Town Centre.
Fabian July 20th, 2003, 12:47 AM Latest news
*Shalala on the bay has topped out or just about. It is now being cladded slowly. It will be brick.
*Arena has reached ground level???? need to check this one out
*There is a two tower proposal for 552 Princes Highway. The towers will be eight and nine stories tall.
CULWULLA July 20th, 2003, 04:04 AM any actual skyscrapers being built or planned?? or just lowrise?
we need more Proximity towers!!!:bash:
Fabian July 20th, 2003, 04:11 AM No scrapers in the planning :(
It's only about increasing the buildings two or three floors and that won't cause a real problem.
We'll have to put up with more mid-rises in the meanwhile.
finn July 21st, 2003, 01:32 AM Originally posted by CULWULLA
any actual skyscrapers being built or planned?? or just lowrise?
we need more Proximity towers!!!:bash:
Rockdale CBD is developing more in the style of a Potts Point district than a Chatswood district - i.e. mostly residential with a consistent high density of development, but without a whole lot of towers. Most of the development is 8-10 storeys, with about 7 towers in the CBD in the form of Rockdale Plaza (4 towers) and Rockdale Gardens (3 towers).
Fabian August 13th, 2003, 10:02 PM Originally posted by CULWULLA
any actual skyscrapers being built or planned?? or just lowrise?
we need more Proximity towers!!!:bash:
There is one in the works in the heart of Rockdale to my surprise.
It has 10 levels of apartments, 1 level of retail and one level at least underground making it 12 floors.:) It's in "domain" inside The Leader.
finn August 14th, 2003, 02:39 AM Originally posted by Fabian
There is one in the works in the heart of Rockdale to my surprise.
It has 10 levels of apartments, 1 level of retail and one level at least underground making it 12 floors.:) It's in "domain" inside The Leader.
Yeah, I saw that rendering...to me, it looks like there may actually be 11 levels of apartments over one 1 level of retail, but its hard to tell - its just that it seems to rise up higher on one side at the top, but the rendering isn't big enough to tell for sure.
Anyway, it looks pretty tall! :) Do you know where the site is of that tower Fabian?
rob.m August 14th, 2003, 03:41 AM Originally posted by Fabian
There is one in the works in the heart of Rockdale to my surprise.
It has 10 levels of apartments, 1 level of retail and one level at least underground making it 12 floors.:) It's in "domain" inside The Leader.
Fabian, what's it called?
Fabian August 14th, 2003, 05:21 AM They didn't even bother mentioning the name!!! Where's Finn
And I remember seeing on Ten News during the traffic update and there was a site being developed on the site of a former car yard near Storage King. Another development in the works.
CULWULLA August 14th, 2003, 05:53 AM let me know any stats on it and ill add to rockdale section on ss.com
finn August 14th, 2003, 06:28 AM Originally posted by Fabian
They didn't even bother mentioning the name!!! Where's Finn
And I remember seeing on Ten News during the traffic update and there was a site being developed on the site of a former car yard near Storage King. Another development in the works.
Yeah, that's a big site between the railway line and the highway - I have no idea what they'll build there, but I've been watching them demolish all the old buildings for the past couple of weeks.
Here's a pic of the building Fabian mentioned, although it is different to the rendering that was in the Leader - this one is the building from the back I think - the other one has the road at the front. From here it looks to be about 11 storeys, but its hard to really tell because it looks to be on a podium from this angle.
http://www.propertiesonline.com.au/agents_folder/691/691_69235_1_lg.jpg
There is no address given, but it says it is in "the heart of Rockdale", and is actually a development site sold with DA approval, so we wont get any details about it until the purchaser of the property wants to start construction.
Fabian August 14th, 2003, 06:38 AM The 12th level would include an underground parking level for residents. Maybe a second one would make it 13?
Fabian August 19th, 2003, 10:04 PM Here's a pic of the Arena Crane as well as Shalala taken from Bexley.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/p74e4ab9c2fcf0bbc688fbbd70dced8f7/fb58bcc5.jpg
Fabian September 3rd, 2003, 08:37 AM More details on the 12 storey tower planned for Rockdale.
The D/A is actually being sold for about $6 million dollars to someone who wants to develop it. Still no address as yet hence the "mystery tower" status.
Fabian September 20th, 2003, 08:42 AM A two tower development one of nine stories, the other about 8 storeys is slated for the site of the Holland Building on the Princes Highway, right across the road from Arena, which is now five levels above ground (excluding the ground level). I'm confident that this is 552 Princes Highway.
Fabian January 31st, 2004, 07:58 AM Arena has now topped out ;)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p03aa6315a331849a9f652067e9955abc/f9c3faa2.jpg
Fabian April 27th, 2004, 10:09 PM It looks like highrise development is set to be scaled back, after Liberal Councillor John Flowers was elected as mayor to Rockdale Council, only the second Liberal to take control of the council in it's 133 year history. Flowers wants an end to the wall to wall developments that have taken place in the area as of late. Even some of the ALP councillors are believed to be opposed to increased development.
And it's interesting to note too that it is a very balanced distribution of the 15 seats to the parties, liberals have five , ALP have 5, Independents have 4 and the Greens have one seat.
Also the scaffholding has been slowly coming off Arena revealing a nice tower and the Landmark tower at the cnr of Bryant & Market Street's has topped out, but is still drapped in scaffholding.
CULWULLA April 28th, 2004, 12:58 AM ah thats crap! i really thought Rockdale would get a nice modest skyline happening and now were back to 3 storey walk ups?? not happy jan!
Fabian April 28th, 2004, 02:18 AM ah thats crap! i really thought Rockdale would get a nice modest skyline happening and now were back to 3 storey walk ups?? not happy jan!
It's only a scaling back Cul. I bet they will approve some tall ones, but only where it's approporiate. Also it shouldn't affect the development Wolli Creek too much either.
finn April 28th, 2004, 08:59 AM It's only a scaling back Cul. I bet they will approve some tall ones, but only where it's approporiate. Also it shouldn't affect the development Wolli Creek too much either.
No, it shouldn't affect Wolli Creek - the masterplan building regulations for that area have already been decided.
Sydguy1 April 28th, 2004, 10:13 AM Anyone know how tall things can go at Wolli Creek,I went into the Australands sales office a few months ago and the agents there said it would be the Chatswood of Southern Sydney.
But being more specific what are the height limits?
Fabian May 4th, 2004, 10:21 PM I read a letter yesterday in "The Leader" written by a Brighton resident who claims Flowers actually supported highrise development in parts of Brighton and was pushing residents to sell up and move out. This comes as a 4/5 storey development for a three storey zone comes in. This may suggest that highrise development, may not be as scaled back as it seems.
finn May 22nd, 2004, 02:02 AM Here's the rendering of a new 9-storey tower, still under construction but which has now topped out on Princes Highway, across from Rockdale Plaza:
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/5938/101525938ml1083712889.jpg
The area has really been densifying with 8-12 storey developments lately! :)
CULWULLA May 22nd, 2004, 03:49 AM wow, nice one finn, i reckon all these 9 storey developements reach approx 30m or 100ft high. this seems to be fine with council anything higher they get there nickers in a knot!
im pretty sure the height reg for wooli ck is 60m or 20 storeys.
Fabian May 26th, 2004, 03:26 AM Yeah, that's a big site between the railway line and the highway - I have no idea what they'll build there, but I've been watching them demolish all the old buildings for the past couple of weeks.
Here's a pic of the building Fabian mentioned, although it is different to the rendering that was in the Leader - this one is the building from the back I think - the other one has the road at the front. From here it looks to be about 11 storeys, but its hard to really tell because it looks to be on a podium from this angle.
http://www.propertiesonline.com.au/agents_folder/691/691_69235_1_lg.jpg
There is no address given, but it says it is in "the heart of Rockdale", and is actually a development site sold with DA approval, so we wont get any details about it until the purchaser of the property wants to start construction.
Rockdale Council has approved the tower :drunk: :cheers: :nocrook: :yes: :okay: :D :hug: :cheers1: :guns1:
It's being built on the site of 551-553 Princes Highway & Keats Ave Rockdale where some rundown shopfronts are just near Bay St. It's just a short walk to the station & shops.
The Leader's Real Estate Section has a rendering of the Princes Highway side of the tower. It looks quite nice.
CULWULLA June 15th, 2004, 03:09 AM my work collegue Louie took these pix of Arena yesterday. turned out great.very bates smartish!
http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/Arena_front.jpg
http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/culwulla/Arena_north.jpg
Fabian June 19th, 2004, 04:36 AM Thanks Cul. It looks even better from further up the Highway such as around Rockdale Town Hall.
The site of the Rockdale Community Church of Christ in Bryant Street is now slated for Highrise development with an eight storey residential tower to be built on the site. The church has grown in numbers and it has beend decided it was better to sell off the site.
When it's done, the church will occupy the ground floor.
There no heritage issues as the church was only built in the 1970's with sloping walls running along the length of the church.
finn June 19th, 2004, 09:29 AM Thanks Cul. It looks even better from further up the Highway such as around Rockdale Town Hall.
The site of the Rockdale Community Church of Christ in Bryant Street is now slated for Highrise development with an eight storey residential tower to be built on the site. The church has grown in numbers and it has beend decided it was better to sell off the site.
When it's done, the church will occupy the ground floor.
There no heritage issues as the church was only built in the 1970's with sloping walls running along the length of the church.
Is that the one kinda across the Highway from Arena? That's one ugly church! Looks very 70's and kinda retro I guess - maybe it does has heritage value, lol. I'll be glad to see it go! :)
Muse June 19th, 2004, 10:27 AM Yeah, when we here the word "church", it doesn't mean it's worth always saving. Like that thing on George St downtown opposite Maroun's 720 George St site.
Rockdale could do with a few more Arena quality buildings. Quite a nice outcome, Arena is. :D
Fabian June 19th, 2004, 11:12 AM Is that the one kinda across the Highway from Arena? That's one ugly church! Looks very 70's and kinda retro I guess - maybe it does has heritage value, lol. I'll be glad to see it go! :)
There are no churches of any faith along the Princes Highway in Rockdale. As stated in my last post, it is located in Bryant Street right across the road from the Rockdale Town and the offices at Rockdale Council. The shops next to the church at the roundabout with Market Street will probably be demolished to make way for the complex as well.
finn June 19th, 2004, 03:04 PM There are no churches of any faith along the Princes Highway in Rockdale. As stated in my last post, it is located in Bryant Street right across the road from the Rockdale Town and the offices at Rockdale Council. The shops next to the church at the roundabout with Market Street will probably be demolished to make way for the complex as well.
That can't be true! On the train going through Rockdale I often see a sign on one of the churches along the highway that says: "No Christ, No Life - Know Christ, Know Life" and think "hmmm, that's clever!" ;)
Syd-Hk June 19th, 2004, 04:22 PM of course there are churches!
-also GET RID of those ugly powerlines they dont fit into a new densifying area! they are ugly!ugly!ugly!
Fabian June 22nd, 2004, 10:03 PM We have the name for the tower to be built at 551-53 Princes Highway. It is to be known as "The Jackson"
http://www.propertiesonline.com.au/agents_folder/691/691_69235_1_lg.jpg
Also tonight, a two tower development, each nine storeys tall goes to Council. It is proposed for George Street.
finn June 23rd, 2004, 04:30 AM More Jackson pics! It has three street frontages I guess!?!
http://www.propertiesonline.com.au/agents_folder/691/691_131745_3_lg.jpg
http://www.propertiesonline.com.au/agents_folder/691/691_131745_1_lg.jpg
I think possibly...although not 100% certain but I have a hunch, that this site must be directly next door to Arena...meaning it will cover Arena's blank wall! That's some quick cover-up action seeing as Arena isn't even fully complete yet! ;) Of course The Jackson will probably just cover the Arena blank wall and create its own! Lol.
finn June 23rd, 2004, 04:37 AM Ohhh, I get it, the rendering Fabian posted is an internal courtyard between a nine-storey tower along the Keats Ave Frontage and a seven storey tower on the Princes Hwy. :)
Fabian June 23rd, 2004, 06:45 AM Your right Finn. If you look at the bottom right hand corner of Louie's photo, you can see "553" on the wall. A furniture store is currently there.
Fabian July 8th, 2004, 11:19 PM According to The Daily Telegraph, more than 900 units are currently planned for a 2.5km stretch of the Princes Highway between Kogarah & Arncliffe. This when combined with the developments at Wolli Creek & other areas of the city (council area), means that Rockdale has become the leading area in the implementing the government's policy of urban consolidation.
It's all good, but we need some more 12 + storey scrapers :)
rob.m July 22nd, 2004, 09:12 AM Not sure if you guys know about this development or not but here's the website. It's going to be build right next door to the Sienna Apartments on George St. Looks really nice!
http://www.soho-apartments.com.au
Fabian July 25th, 2004, 01:18 AM I hadn't been aware of it. It's on the site currently occupied by the three storey Medical Complex (I've went there many times as a young kid) and I think a doctors surgery.
From what I've seen, it is shaping up to be an excellent complex, one of the best in Rockdale. It puts virtually all the other developments to shame. Excellent design too, especially with the blades at the top but also brings a piece of the inner city to the area.
Fabian August 29th, 2004, 12:53 AM Excvation has begun on a large site on the Princes Highway that backs onto the Illawarra Railway line. I cannot wait to see the outcome. I presume it will be residential.
Also The Landmark in Market Street is now complete. It doesn't look too bad but the density of buildings in the area make it hard for the building to standout.
finn August 29th, 2004, 04:09 AM ^^I drove past at about 3:30am this morning and saw a large pile driving machine on site. I wonder how big the construction will be? The site is actually further down the highway than most of the Rockdale development, so if it's a significant building it will pull development further along the highway frontage.
It would be very cool if there is eventually a constant string of apartments/offices/retail along the Princes Highway linking Kogarah to Rockdale, Rockdale to Banksia, Banksia to Arncliffe, Arncliffe to Wolli Creek! :)
rob.m August 31st, 2004, 10:38 AM A new apartment building by Rockwall is being built in Brighton beach. Looks awesome.
The project will only contain 36 large split level apartments, the apartments will be a loft style over two levels with balconies creating very special spaces. The interiors finishes and fixtures will be a high standard with quality stainless steel appliances. The apartments will be ready to occupy in mid 2005 and all apartments will have parking.
Website:
http://www.rockwall.com.au/content/projects/apartments/bay/index.htm
http://www.rockwall.com.au/_media/images/projects/apartments/bay/popups/hires/ext1.jpg
Fabian August 31st, 2004, 10:16 PM We have a special thread on Rockwalls development.
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=128463
Fabian September 1st, 2004, 01:54 PM Fencing has appeared around the site of Soho apartments suggesting that demolition of buildings on site is set to begin. :)
finn September 1st, 2004, 02:29 PM ^^Thanks for the heads up Fab! I love the look of this complex, and it will really help to cement the Rockdale town centre as a dense little suburban hub! :)
James Saito September 1st, 2004, 04:00 PM ^^Thanks for the heads up Fab! I love the look of this complex, and it will really help to cement the Rockdale town centre as a dense little suburban hub! :)
Actually this one is in Brighton-Le-Sands, 1.7km away from Rockdale town centre. Still good nonetheless.
Fabian September 1st, 2004, 09:59 PM Actually this one is in Brighton-Le-Sands, 1.7km away from Rockdale town centre. Still good nonetheless.
Soho Apartments is in Rockdale. It's in Market Street.
James Saito September 2nd, 2004, 01:54 AM Soho Apartments is in Rockdale. It's in Market Street.
Oops, I thought you were referring Rockwall apartment.
climbing_crane December 26th, 2004, 01:56 PM solo goes down fast
Fabian February 26th, 2005, 12:23 PM Brighton could get another nine storey residential tower. It's proposed for the shopping centre Bay Street near Crawford Ave and just 200 metres from the new Rockwall Tower (Demolition hasn't started yet). The tower would be going up on the site where a number of shops were destroyed in an explosion back in 2000. Many residents are against the development because it would set a nasty precedent for development along the southern side of the street (where it's being built) and the overdevelopment of the area. Some residents would feel "caved in" as a result of the development.
If approved, piling would commence immediately, because the buildings affected by the explosion were demolished after it had happened due to structural concerns (It took 2 years for this to happen).
Also a five storey residential complex is to be built on a site of historic terraces in Princess Street which has also upset residents on the grounds that the homes had heritage significance but also breached the three storey height limit. Rockdale Council allowed the development because it was in an area surrounded by tall buildings, most notably the Novotel.
Fabian March 25th, 2005, 12:24 PM Good News, work on Soho has begun. I noticed this week that buildings currently occupying the site are being pulled down!!!!!
cammo2004 March 25th, 2005, 01:21 PM wow. A lot of classy developments going up in Rockdale I see. Good to see the council there is buying into the whole densifying trend as well.
Won't happen down here in the Shire though, except maybe in Miranda and Caringbah (where it's warranted).
And perhaps Cronulla.
Syd-Hk March 25th, 2005, 02:05 PM Heaps of high rises along the shoreline in cronlla already isn't it?
Muse March 26th, 2005, 03:21 AM Heaps of high rises along the shoreline in Cronulla already isn't it?Sure are!! Off topic for Rockdale developments however....
http://www.airviewonline.com.au/photos/0306/0300/0306-0300-06.jpg
http://www.airviewonline.com.au/photos/0306/0300/0306-0300-05.jpg
http://www.airviewonline.com.au/photos/0306/0300/0306-0300-08.jpg
CULWULLA March 31st, 2005, 03:31 AM beacuse i lived near cronulla for years i once did a complete survey of the highrise. there are 30 bldgs over 5storeys. approx 8 are skyscrapers. i hope one day Ettalong (near where i now live) will have bldgs up to 12storeys. great towns need great skylines.
CULWULLA April 26th, 2005, 01:35 AM Zone @ Wooli Creek complete!
(taken by a mate at weekend)
http://img253.echo.cx/img253/9159/zonecomplete0bh.jpg
James Saito April 26th, 2005, 05:19 AM Hmmm... I don't like Zone. It's too bland, especially the side blank wall.
Fabian June 2nd, 2005, 03:41 AM Construction of Soho apartments has begun, with excavation well under way.
finn July 21st, 2005, 04:44 AM This is another one in Rockdale along the Princes Highway stretch called Seaside Apartments (even though it is a couple of kms from the Bayside, and a couple of kms more from the actual seaside!):
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/597/x5769scrockdale.jpg
It looks to be two towers of about 9 storeys and I believe site clearance has taken place, although I'm not sure if excavation/construction has actually begun yet.
finn July 21st, 2005, 04:47 AM My mistake, on checking again it is actually called Seaview Apartments...I guess that is more applicable, even though it is a bit of a stretch IMO.
Fabian July 21st, 2005, 06:56 AM Excavation for soho apartments at the start of the month. I was in a hurry to catch a bus at the time and only could manage this. The hole looks big!!!!
http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/9826/sohoapartments5un.jpg
lennyr July 22nd, 2005, 08:42 AM A friend of mine lives in Rockdale Plaza so I was able to get a few shots of the surrounds. Not the best pics, I'm always completing disoriented by the time I get there.
http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/6231/rockdale0080mo.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
And the view of Brighton-Le-Sands.
http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/3613/rockdale0098dt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
Fabian July 26th, 2005, 02:40 PM This is another one in Rockdale along the Princes Highway stretch called Seaside Apartments (even though it is a couple of kms from the Bayside, and a couple of kms more from the actual seaside!):
http://www.justlisted.com.au/images/597/x5769scrockdale.jpg
It looks to be two towers of about 9 storeys and I believe site clearance has taken place, although I'm not sure if excavation/construction has actually begun yet.
I noticed a crane has appeared on the site while travelling through Rockdale this afternoon. Major construction should be underway.
James Saito August 4th, 2007, 05:59 AM Scan from The Leader.
Construction has begun for the 9-story apartment in Brighton Le Sands.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9767/brightonlesandsarticlequ1.gif
cammo2004 August 4th, 2007, 06:07 AM That one should look nice along there.
Fabian August 4th, 2007, 06:24 AM I've seen the crane. It's visible from miles away as far as the Captain Cook Bridge.
Very good development for Brighton. :) Should rejuvenate that part of the shopping centre. It's been drab, and gotten worse since the explosion that damaged the old buildings there back in 2000.
And even the bakery is going too. I used to buy donuts from there. Yum.
Fabian August 8th, 2007, 10:18 PM That article was published in the shire edition of the leader on Tuesday. I now have a hard copy :)
James Saito November 9th, 2007, 01:13 AM 4-storey mixed use development (12 commercial office, 3 retail and apartment) at 344 Bay st.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5212/brighton344jb7.jpg
Fabian November 9th, 2007, 08:11 AM What happened to the 9-10 Storey Rockwall proposal for the site? That would of been fab.
James Saito February 12th, 2008, 12:24 PM It's not Rockdale but this is the closest thread I could find.
Parkside Apartments in St.Peters is under construction.
http://www.parksideapartments.net.au/
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7770/stpetersparksideapartmehf5.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8107/stpetersparksideapartmeqg9.jpg
CULWULLA February 12th, 2008, 09:59 PM i like it. very smart. suits the area.
LanceDriver February 12th, 2008, 10:09 PM ^ this one has been underway for some time (if it's the one i've seen driving by). it's been dug out and there's now been a hammer head there for a little while. when i drive past it i often see the low flying planes just above the site, very flight path. i'm surprised that they still build resi in this area, it's much more suited to industry/commerce and transport related ventures. it does look nice though.
Lord_Bertrum February 13th, 2008, 03:00 AM You could say the same about Wolli Creek just down the road too.
LanceDriver February 13th, 2008, 03:21 AM ^ it's just out of the flight path, if planes were coming in over wolli creek they'd be landing diagonally across all runways.
jornada February 13th, 2008, 03:25 AM You could say the same about Wolli Creek just down the road too.
Do you actually live in Wolli Creek??
Get your facts right before making such a claim... We don't get the flight path at all... In fact, the planes are louder around the Rockdale area...
LanceDriver February 13th, 2008, 03:47 AM ^ but it is good to watch planes landing from there, and you'd hope one is never off course! ;)
Lord_Bertrum February 13th, 2008, 06:18 AM Do you actually live in Wolli Creek??
Get your facts right before making such a claim... We don't get the flight path at all... In fact, the planes are louder around the Rockdale area...
What the hell!
Calm down, do you fear that me making such a comment on here is going to damage your property value or something???
James Saito October 19th, 2008, 12:16 PM New apartment under construction on Bay St in Brighton Le Sands:
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/796/lasands01sp8.jpg
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9540/lasands02ve7.jpg
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3417/lasands03ut2.jpg
Fabian October 19th, 2008, 09:48 PM My old stomping ground!!!! Sad to see the bakery gone, but it's a good development. Has there been any advertising of it in the St George editions of the leader?
Fabian February 21st, 2009, 05:10 AM Novotel Brighton Beach has lodged a D/A with Planning NSW for a $100 million upgrade of the hotel at Brighton-Le-Sands. It would be the first upgrade since it opened in 1990.
From The St George and Sutherland Shire Leader (www.stgeorgesutherlandleader.com.au)
Novotel Brighton-Le-Sands expansion plans
BY MARIANNA PAPADAKIS
20/02/2009 4:00:00 AM
THE owners of Novotel Brighton-Le-Sands Hotel have bypassed Rockdale Council and lodged an application for a $100 million redevelopment with the NSW Department of Planning.
The application will now be assessed under part 3A of the Environmental, Planning and Assessment Act introduced by former Planning Minister and Rockdale MP Frank Sartor.
The controversial provision enables the Planning Minister, Christina Keneally, to fast track approval of state or regionally significant proposals.
Thakral Holdings' Group managing director John Hudson did not reveal details of the redevelopment plans, which could include a tourist facility, convention centre and retail space on land the company has bought in Princess Street.
A Department of Planning spokeswoman said it would continue to consult with the council which would be able to provide input on design issues during the ``community consultation and public exhibition'' stage.
NSW Local Government and Shires Association president Genia McCaffery said the council's role was "just like any other objector'' and it was likely to receive less developer contributions under the reformed planning laws.
"Residents don't have access to the decision makers. Because the department is so removed from communities, it cuts them out of the process,'' Cr McCaffery said.
No decisions concerning details such as developer contributions have been made.
Rockdale Council urban strategy and design manager Erica Roka said section 94 contributions and design issues would be key issues raised in the council's submission to the department.
Mr Sartor said plans, which could include up to 200 extra hotel rooms, were discussed between the council and Thakral for at least a year and it was hoped the development would generate employment in the region.
"The expansion could bring more retail and hotel jobs,'' Mr Sartor said. ``We could even try to get them to build a new car park.''
Brighton-Le-Sands Chamber of Commerce president Patrick Medway said the chamber would welcome a significant improvement and additions to the shopping precinct as a part of the development.
"This would be a wider investment into the community and could bring a higher tourism profile to the area,'' Mr Medway said.
Fabian February 23rd, 2009, 08:59 PM The D/A for the Novotel upgrade has not been lodged with Planning NSW website.
Fabian March 26th, 2009, 11:41 AM I have some good news - the Novotel Expansion will include the construction of a new tower to the same height as the existing hotel.
Looks to be 16 storeys tall
Renders
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/files/31132/Appendix_A_Architectural_Drawings%2019.pdf
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/files/31139/Appendix_A_Architectural_Drawings%2026.pdf
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/files/31137/Appendix_A_Architectural_Drawings%2024.pdf
Cross section
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/files/31129/Appendix_A_Architectural_Drawings%2016.pdf
finn March 26th, 2009, 11:26 PM I have some good news - the Novotel Expansion will include the construction of a new tower to the same height as the existing hotel.
Looks to be 16 storeys tall
Renders
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/files/31132/Appendix_A_Architectural_Drawings%2019.pdf
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/files/31139/Appendix_A_Architectural_Drawings%2026.pdf
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/files/31137/Appendix_A_Architectural_Drawings%2024.pdf
Cross section
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au/files/31129/Appendix_A_Architectural_Drawings%2016.pdf
I like it!
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3473/novotel1.jpg
CULWULLA March 27th, 2009, 12:37 AM looks good.
what ever happednto siedlers tower?
Fabian March 27th, 2009, 08:39 AM Around a year ago I chatted with my hairdresser about it (he lives in Brighton) and told me that locals were opposed to it, holding it up.
I just hope it still gets built. Very high standard.
The Novotel Expansion is very good in itself, but the NIMBY's will have field day over it. 1890's terraces were demolished several years ago for a five storey residential development that never got off the ground.
CULWULLA April 16th, 2009, 12:18 AM city of rockdale from syd tower yesterday
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3364/3443919927_200e0a1d10_b.jpg
LAgreek18 April 16th, 2009, 01:38 AM Last year i heard of a pier being propoed going out from Lady Robinsons beach at brighton, is this still going ahead, or what?
CULWULLA April 16th, 2009, 02:40 AM ^not sure. its a lot of $$$ and these days lots of $$$ is scarce.
Fabian April 16th, 2009, 04:22 AM At last word, Rockdale Council was seeking tenders to build the pier. Don't know what has happened.
Also construction of the Supabarn Supermarket at Rocky Point Rd, Sans Souci has commenced with demolition of residential dwellings. Will be a welcome boost to the shopping strip. Even better in the fact that it's an independent chain.
Fabian August 9th, 2009, 01:03 AM The marina for Brighton is on hold. Council not happy with some of the proposals.
Economic termoil also behind it as well.
The St George and Sutherland Shire Leader published renders of two proposals submitted to council. Both of them looked quite good. :)
mute123 September 7th, 2009, 11:32 AM Anything new going up in Rockdale? I heard this destinations project including new apartments and I think there was talk of something going up near the shopping strip along the Princes Highway again? Anyone know of anything on this, story was sketchy.?
Fabian September 7th, 2009, 01:49 PM Nothing new in Rockdale yet. It's gone quiet.
Fabian December 14th, 2009, 10:05 PM Progress on upgrades and extensions to the Novotel Brighton have stalled but Thrakal are still confident of going ahead.
From The St George and Sutherland Shire Leader (stgeorgesutherlandleader.com.au)
Novotel's inaction raises doubts
BY MARIANNA PAPADAKIS
24 Nov, 2009 02:53 PM
OWNERS of the Novotel Hotel at Brighton-Le-Sands appear to be stalling on $150 million redevelopment plans lodged with the NSW Planning Department, leaving businesses and Rockdale Council concerned about the hotel's future.
Concept plans were lodged in November last year.
The department approved requests by Thakral Holdings Group to amend a major projects declaration for refurbishment and expansion of the hotel.
This enables the company to lodge a separate development application to Rockdale Council for refurbishments ahead of an expansion to adjacent premises in Princess Street.
Thakral managing director John Hudson said the company was in the process of assessing the director general's requirements, which were issued in February, and the development would be staged.
No firm commitment as to whether or when the expansion would go ahead could be given, but the company did not intend to sell the hotel, he said.
Thakral is selling its Novotel Northbeach hotel in Wollongong. The company group recorded a profit of $13.1 million in 2008-09, down from $31.1 million in 2007-08.
Rockdale Mayor Shaoquett Moselmane said the hotel was the anchor for businesses in and around the suburb and the council would strongly oppose the idea of a sale.
"Businesses survive and prosper as a result of its presence,'' he said. ``If we lost it, they would suffer greatly.''
Brighton-Le-Sands Chamber of Commerce president Patrick Medway said the chamber was disappointed the hotel was not pressing ahead more quickly with its upgrades.
"We are also disappointed with the slowness of the council with its upgrades of Bay Street that were promised two years ago,'' Mr Medway said.
shaggers_jr December 16th, 2009, 05:09 AM At last word, Rockdale Council was seeking tenders to build the pier. Don't know what has happened.
Also construction of the Supabarn Supermarket at Rocky Point Rd, Sans Souci has commenced with demolition of residential dwellings. Will be a welcome boost to the shopping strip. Even better in the fact that it's an independent chain.
Agggh! Supabarn is evil. It's run by this bloodsucker from Canberra and is the most overpriced supermarket in the world. Back in Canberra we use dot pay more for our groceries than Coles in Surry Hills. Supabarn is rubbish. Gimme Woolies over it any day.
Fabian December 16th, 2009, 10:36 AM Construction has halted on the site. There has been no progress in the latter half of this year. I have heard they want to amend the D/A.
mute123 December 16th, 2009, 12:00 PM Is this the project near Maccas, didn't the locals kick up a huge stink over this one. Too many people and other bs was their claim. Although I don't think I have seen a render it sounds quite good and the type of development to benefit the area. It isn't an old area with lost of heritage and is away from the McMansions on the waterfront. The area is also serviced by buses which could be increased if they have 5 storeys along Rocky Point Roads, with acces roads round the back as with this development. I quite like the idea of somewhat increasing the density of the area.
Fabian December 16th, 2009, 09:50 PM It's two blocks from McDonalds. It's at the intersection of Russell Avenue & Rocky Point Rd, opposite the BP Service Station.
Fabian January 10th, 2010, 10:12 PM The marina for Brighton is on hold. Council not happy with some of the proposals.
Economic termoil also behind it as well.
The St George and Sutherland Shire Leader published renders of two proposals submitted to council. Both of them looked quite good. :)
I now have my own scanner and here are the proposals with the accompanying article from The Leader
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1165/img0011e.jpg
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/117/img0010f.jpg
Also it has made the 2010 Sydway even though it has been axed for now.
Fabian June 21st, 2011, 10:50 PM ^^And it is still in Edition 16 of the Sydway^^
New State MP for Rockdale - John Flowers (Lib) made a good point about the old unit blocks in Brighton Le Sands and how they detract from the suburb.
The St George and Sutherland Shire Leader (21/6/2011): http://www.theleader.com.au/news/local/news/general/flowers-grand-vision/2201008.aspx
Fabian July 17th, 2011, 12:53 AM Rockwall have been granted an increase in height for 342-44 Bay Street, Brighton Le Sands from 5 floors to 10 floors. :)
http://static.lifeislocal.com.au/multimedia/images/full/1321669.jpg
Source: The St George and Sutherland Shire Leader, 14/7/2011 (St George Edition)
Fabian February 7th, 2012, 01:59 AM Rockdale Council is looking to increase height limits in the Rockdale CBD.
The St George & Sutherland Shire Leader (7/2/2011): http://www.theleader.com.au/news/local/news/general/big-plans-for-rockdale-town-centre/2445475.aspx
Senor Yabanjin March 7th, 2012, 09:12 AM 551 Princes highway, 51 apartments
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/beastben/Screenshot2012-03-06at113025PM.png
Senor Yabanjin March 7th, 2012, 09:13 AM 541 Princes Highway (immediately next door to above post), 31 apartments
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/beastben/Screenshot2012-03-06at94044PM.png
Senor Yabanjin March 7th, 2012, 09:17 AM while across the road, at 582-586 Princes Hwy, the approved DA for this bldg, with 56 apartments, is currently for sale (I believe, could be wrong)
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/beastben/Screenshot2012-03-06at112936PM.png
Senor Yabanjin March 7th, 2012, 09:21 AM the above is a big improvement over what is currently on the site
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/beastben/Screenshot2012-03-07at51900PM.png
BearCave March 7th, 2012, 10:29 AM ^^
Excellent! Rockdale has been quiet for a while comparing to its twin brother Kogarah. It's time to catch up!
Fabian March 7th, 2012, 08:38 PM I remember that function centre. It was nothing special inside as well.
At least there is some quality in this current batch of developments. I just hope the standard rises further.
Senor Yabanjin March 8th, 2012, 12:42 AM the supabarn site at 528 - 538 Rocky Point Rd, Sans Souci has been recommended for approval
http://www.theleader.com.au/news/local/news/general/ramsgate-unit-block-plan-set-for-approval/2458091.aspx
here are renders
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/beastben/Screenshot2012-03-08at83347AM.png
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n554/beastben/Screenshot2012-03-08at83454AM.png
Fabian March 8th, 2012, 09:45 AM The Jameson Apartments have been on sale since before Christmas. The supermarket will do favours for the shopping centre. Even better its a supabarn not a coles or woolworths.
Fabian May 10th, 2012, 12:01 PM Bad News about the Novotel Expansion at Brighton - Its not happening. Thakral have now lodged a D/A for a 9 storey apartment building at 6-14 Princess Street, Brighton with Rockdale Council. Disappointing news. :(
Fabian May 15th, 2012, 04:22 AM Good reaction to the Rockdale Town Centre Masterplan.
The St George and Sutherland Shire LEader (15/5/2012): http://www.theleader.com.au/news/local/news/general/good-reaction-to-rockdale-town-masterplan/2555264.aspx
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