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stanford November 24th, 2002, 01:04 AM Grand 50 Tower
Kaohsiung, Taiwan
HEIGHT: 222m/728 feet
FLOORS: 50 floors
COMPLETION: 1992
ARCHITECT: ?
The building's design uses the traditional Chinese pagoda style, where it looks like a block setting on another block. The building is an octagon-shaped to reduce force from the wind.
Chang-Gu World Trade Center is the first building in Taiwan over 50 floors. It was the tallest building in Taiwan for 6 months, from 1992 until early 1993 when Shin-Kong Life Tower was completed in Taipei.
Modern treatment of tones and textures utilizing traditional stone, combined with the dichotomy of complex aluminum shapes, present an instantly recognized image.
The 50-storey high structure is fully unitized for the entire wall system, some of the larger units are over 7 metres in height.
The entire project demanded the highest standards of finish and materials. The test specimen was subjected to very high windloads; the project was tested to pressures equivalent to a wind speed in excess of 300 mph.
Chang-Gu World Trade Center was the tallest building in Kaohsiung from 1992 until the Tuntex & Chien-Ti Tower was completed in 1997.
Currently the 2nd tallest building in Kaohsiung, and 3rd tallest in Taiwan.
http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/kao/bld13.jpg
http://photo.starblvd.net/RateOurTalls/2-1-5-1078350796?m=1&pg=1&ro=0&co=4
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/103cg2.jpg
http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/kao/bld10.jpg
http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/kao/bld06.jpg
http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/kao/bld02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/rotpics03/kaohsiung11.jpg
AG November 24th, 2002, 01:42 AM It's too boxy, but the facade is quite good. The style isn't bad, especially with the pagoda like top and shape.
7/10
RafflesCity November 24th, 2002, 02:19 AM 8.5/10
This is one ethnic design that really works IMO. The setbacks are well-proportioned and graceful. Only the top looks heavy.
High points for being daring and beautiful.
SteelCity32 November 24th, 2002, 05:13 AM I like it. Whats the style of this one?
8/10
stanford November 24th, 2002, 06:08 AM daring, has an asian feeling. love its façade, the top does look a bit bulky.
9/10 one of C.Y. Lee's better ones :)
TYW November 24th, 2002, 11:26 AM 4.5/10
don't really like it. the shape of the building is quite nice though.
Sunflower November 24th, 2002, 11:29 PM I don't like the bulge at the very top but the rest is very good.
8/10
SUNNI November 25th, 2002, 09:20 AM 8, nice building.. a little bit of height would do some good,.. altho its tall enough..
Daniel8ty8 November 26th, 2002, 09:22 AM Hmm...
Well, if they like it over in Taiwan, then I like it.
I really have no idea what to give it.
Caledon1981 November 26th, 2002, 09:57 PM i dunno there are some crazy towers over there . . .that looks like it belongs in Vegas!! 6/10
Jasonhouse November 28th, 2002, 05:12 AM While the building is terrible IMO, this thread about it is awesome. Well done! The building is a PoMo disaster though, almost as bad as the skyscrapers in Wuhan.
6.0/10
giallo November 30th, 2002, 02:49 PM The top totally ruins this building. It had so much potential. What a waste. 6.5
Pablo November 30th, 2002, 04:46 PM yeoh awesoem building;)
6/10:D
DamienK December 4th, 2002, 01:45 PM I've always liked the unusual design and colouring. . . 9/10
D-Mac December 5th, 2002, 01:19 AM Check out this picture
http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/kaohsiung11.jpg
This is my favourite picture of this tower. It looks so large and imposing, but also like a giant monument. The top is a bit funny from some angles, but it fits right in when looking up at the tower from close, like in that second picture. The pagoda style is very interesting and unusual. Great building 9.0/10
Liz L December 5th, 2002, 04:32 AM 7/10 - I like the multiple indentations at the corners, the cornice at the top of each set back, and the outward curve at the bottom of each segment. The cornices in particular not only resemble a pagoda, but remind me a bit of late 19th & early 20th century buildings, such as the Wainwright or the Flatiron.
However, the building is still too broad and blocky, even with the set backs, some parts of the facade could use a bit more detailing on the stonework, and that so-called crown - ARRGH! >( It's blocky and awkward, and doesn't seem to have any connection with the tower below it at all! All of that effort, and just a flat roof with a ticky-tacky, scrawny out of place antenna and a guy wire - they could have spared themselves the effort, and simply built the tower up with a series of setbacks culminating in a spire...THe only good thing about that crown as it is, is that it doesn't look quite so monumentally out of place when you're looking straight up at it from the ground...
Bob di Gills December 5th, 2002, 11:49 PM thats a :nono: in me book
4/10
skyway December 7th, 2002, 12:52 AM yeah it looks like a giant monument!
less than 5
Bobdreamz December 7th, 2002, 05:14 AM this is hideous to look at...looks more like a monument than a skyscraper...what is going on in Taiwan anyways??..the TFC looks like a bunch of tupperware stacked up & now this..??....maybe Taiwan should rejoin China ..at least they know how to build skyscrapers! :puke: less than 3/10...sorry.
De Snor December 8th, 2002, 08:52 PM what a stupid piece of architecture :puke:
A 10 for those who dare looking at it , a less than 3 for it's design :X
SeeMacau January 2nd, 2003, 03:23 AM Not bad !!
Very good design
7/10
Wu-Gambino January 3rd, 2003, 05:48 PM Awful. 5
Dan January 6th, 2003, 10:23 AM Different culture, different style, I guess.
In my eyes it's a 4.
DrumCorpsAlum February 24th, 2003, 04:13 AM Innovative yet absurd. 7.5/10. I like it somewhat for some reason.
The Messiah March 7th, 2003, 07:53 PM This kind of design is unnusual and i don't like it at all....
4.5/10
Evergrey April 11th, 2003, 01:17 AM 5 This building really had something going on... until the top! What a gorgeous facade... and interesting shape... but that ridiculous crown really kills this thing...
Jase Calvin April 17th, 2003, 08:17 AM Yeah, the top part is butt ugly and ruins the look of the building. The rest of it is quite good post-modernism IMO! 6/10.
BGT April 19th, 2003, 05:45 AM Under 3/10
huaiwei May 28th, 2003, 12:42 PM Damn controversial building....it dosent look positive to me thou...too much stone I guess, and those mid level protrusions spoil it. 6/10.
james2390 August 8th, 2003, 09:05 PM looks cool, 8
AtlanticaC5 August 23rd, 2003, 02:06 PM :wtf: This was something special!! 7/10
il fenomeno August 28th, 2003, 09:02 PM again a very weird asian shape 5/10
Patrick September 10th, 2003, 03:15 PM facade: the color is the half point that's missing for a ten, could be a bit darker
form: great! nice details!
specials: the top is so cool!
points: 9,5
Fabio November 8th, 2003, 07:27 PM 5/10
Totally weird.
Sher November 8th, 2003, 09:21 PM 9.8/10
I love the pagoda style and the color, my favorite in TW. :cool:
airsickpenthousedweller November 8th, 2003, 10:34 PM Like other scapers in Taiwan, it's no wannabe-building and looks like a thing-in-itself.......hooray for originality !
Designed with care for detail and meaning.
9/10
waterloo November 11th, 2003, 05:00 AM Great~! Design..I like it my second favourite in Taiwan after taipei 101...10/10.
alex3000 November 18th, 2003, 03:25 AM 5/10
johnrosstaiwan December 5th, 2003, 06:59 PM When I saw this building for the first time I thought it was built in the 1970's. :D :D :D :D
Sorry!!! :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:
Really not my cup-o-tea.
renell January 11th, 2004, 02:59 PM i dunno what i rated it exactly, but it must have been something down there. it's just ugly
wolkenkrabber January 26th, 2004, 02:43 AM it's a really cool building and i lkike the design partly i gave it a 8
Winus January 26th, 2004, 11:34 AM Is this real? Aargh. 3.0
giallo February 5th, 2004, 04:25 PM Originally posted by johnrosstaiwan
When I saw this building for the first time I thought it was built in the 1970's. :D :D :D :D
Sorry!!! :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:
Really not my cup-o-tea.
You're an expat in Tainan? We probably know eachother.
Necker February 10th, 2004, 06:32 PM ARGGG!! Less than 3!!
Javier March 8th, 2004, 07:02 PM Noooo!
3 or less
7 World Trade April 23rd, 2004, 05:22 AM yep, looks like a monumend u'd expect to find in nk...lol. need a lot more glass to this one
6.5
Imperfect Ending September 23rd, 2004, 08:07 AM 4/10
What the heck is that?
David3820 September 28th, 2004, 03:46 AM Hmmm, I don't like it because it's too futuristic looking. What I mean by that is that it should be a lot taller looking that futuristic so in a sence it looks too futuristic for it's time. 5/10
Zuelas October 5th, 2004, 05:31 PM 8.5
I really like everything about the bldg but the very top and even that isn't soooo bad. Has a great shape and dominates its surroundings. Original and strong
Monkey November 2nd, 2004, 12:28 PM It looks a bit contrived, like it's trying too hard to be different.
5.5
andysimo123 November 22nd, 2004, 04:08 PM 4/10
empersouf December 3rd, 2004, 06:25 PM Incredibly ugly. 3.0
Medo March 7th, 2005, 08:37 AM it has not aged well.5
london-b March 8th, 2005, 01:28 AM I hate the shape and facade, 3/10
hugo_hlv March 8th, 2005, 05:36 PM 6.5/10
Reflex March 18th, 2005, 12:36 AM WOW!!! What a nice building!!! The last pic is simply awesome!!! 9.5/10.
MattSal March 20th, 2005, 06:39 AM :puke: Very ugly. In fact, this redefines ugly. I give it less than 3. :(
Sonic from Padova March 26th, 2005, 01:40 PM mmmmhhhh.....5!
long foot March 29th, 2005, 10:46 AM Simply ugly
3
Chibcha2k April 1st, 2005, 07:26 AM everything was like kinda good till i saw that top..:poke: 4/10
Latoso May 30th, 2005, 10:57 AM 1/10
Jules May 30th, 2005, 07:44 PM Top sucks, rest is good. 7.5.
Phobos June 13th, 2005, 12:10 AM 5/10
I don't like it's style,but it's not bad seeing from chinses eyes.The side part is a bit boring though.
DRAKKO July 3rd, 2005, 11:31 AM 8/10
ROYAL BLUE July 7th, 2005, 12:10 AM 7/10
CborG July 17th, 2005, 04:23 AM Very unusual design, very distinctive also, 8/10
Sonic from Padova July 19th, 2005, 09:14 AM 7.
Accura4Matalan July 21st, 2005, 07:28 PM 5.5/10
clarky July 21st, 2005, 08:14 PM 7/10
SoboleuS August 8th, 2005, 02:25 PM It's very original but I don't like it. 5/10
El_Greco August 10th, 2005, 12:23 AM 6/10
Skylandman November 1st, 2005, 01:09 PM 6/10
www.sercan.de November 2nd, 2005, 04:25 PM 7,5/10
Cpbujaa November 3rd, 2005, 04:43 AM 7/10
Blue_Sky November 3rd, 2005, 01:16 PM don't really like it
6/10
Sinjin P. November 3rd, 2005, 03:28 PM I like it. 10/10
Pengui November 18th, 2005, 08:07 AM So unique ^ ^
I have to say it would look better without the observatory thing at the top or even if it was better clad. The rest of the building is very original, offers an interesting shape and has good looking materials !
Very intriguing, in fact I'd like it to be taller !
7.5
CPN November 20th, 2005, 12:35 AM From far it looks nice, but some details are hideous, and the colour is awful
5/10
۩SkyScraper۩ November 23rd, 2005, 11:36 PM 8/10
FROM LOS ANGELES November 30th, 2005, 12:58 AM Bizarre and ugly. 5.5/10
aznrunner345 December 8th, 2005, 07:11 PM it looks like a light house from faraway.. i go to kaohsiung every year and its a shame they have that building i like the e erything about it but ew the top crown thing totally takes away from it
forvine December 9th, 2005, 08:53 PM 4/10
mr_storms January 8th, 2006, 09:25 PM so ugly 4/10 is being generous
Scruffy88 January 9th, 2006, 03:30 AM i always think its necessary to infuse a bit of your own culture into your architecture even though the majority of times it bombs. This is one occasion where I really like the results. Throroughly Chinese or Taiwanese it looks spectactular. It would have looked better if they had decorated it up a little more. the facade coloring is bland.
8.5/10
Henk April 19th, 2006, 08:18 PM 5/10.
marpa April 21st, 2006, 12:21 AM 9,5/10
Skyman May 5th, 2006, 04:02 PM 7/10
anakin May 22nd, 2006, 10:02 AM 6/10
ZZ-II June 13th, 2006, 10:07 PM i love the design of it, 8.5/10
ming0318 June 29th, 2006, 10:59 AM this one is special! both taipei 101 and it are by same desigher.
even if it looks like a monument, it doesn't metter...
or maybe it looks better in person?? :)
already tall in Taiwanese standard.... :sleepy:
Principes July 1st, 2006, 08:31 AM 7/10
The Forgotten Shadow July 3rd, 2006, 03:57 AM The only reason I would give it higher than a 6/10 is for the traditional design, but I can't the top.. 5/10
virarch July 4th, 2006, 09:53 AM 2/10
the design for the top is simply absurd. the architects for this project obviously have no concept of grace or elegance.
the building would have looked much better simply by continuing the pattern upward once or twice.
gutooo July 16th, 2006, 09:56 PM 7/10
B@dGuYoM July 17th, 2006, 07:53 PM impressive but not so great 6.5/10
sharpie20 July 19th, 2006, 06:05 AM Radical looking buildng
6.5/10
beyutch August 3rd, 2006, 05:54 AM odd
Cabman August 3rd, 2006, 03:35 PM This building scores very heavilly and works very well until the last moment and you see the top. It is a joke right. No. 9/10 - 4 for the top. The pinicle of any tower is important 5/10
Dreamlıneя August 4th, 2006, 03:20 AM 7/10
Woko August 11th, 2006, 04:27 AM There is some limits with the «Asian» architecture, and this building surpass them.
skipperBill August 13th, 2006, 10:40 PM 6.5/10.
cffuny August 16th, 2006, 11:16 PM 7/10
Mosaic August 28th, 2006, 09:50 AM 6/10
Very Controversial October 26th, 2006, 04:32 PM 8/10,
weirdo November 5th, 2006, 06:25 PM it's like a proto taipei 101. 6/10
_zner_ November 8th, 2006, 01:13 PM 9.5 nice and weird! cool!
Chinky Orz November 15th, 2006, 05:13 AM I like the pagoda style a lot, 9.5/10
frango1 January 27th, 2007, 08:43 AM 0 / 10
( minus 11 actually )
david thomas January 30th, 2007, 02:20 PM 0 / 10
( minus 11 actually )
LOL!! I like your style!
Agreed totally. Wish I could rate it in the negatives.
I'm not sure whether the Chinese understand that their pagodas are among the ugliest man-made structures ever existed on earth. They seem to have this uncontrollable urge to throw in elements of their ugly pagodas into highrise designs whenever possible without even asking themselves why the pagoda must be the defining characteristics of "Chinese architecture". It's such an obvious philosophical and logical flaw in their thinking and reasoning that they should feel embarrassed in not being able to get it right after hundreds if not thousands of years. Using their very own logic, the first Chinese architect to have designed the pagoda should not have been regarded as a traditionalist in the first place.
david thomas January 30th, 2007, 02:21 PM 0 / 10
chinatown January 30th, 2007, 02:25 PM a big monument.
4/10
kamil.bukowski January 30th, 2007, 09:35 PM 6.5/10
pau-chin February 20th, 2007, 01:41 AM http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6515/changgugo0.jpg 8/10romanpaucin
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4382/24yd8.jpg
ROYU February 21st, 2007, 03:04 AM Ugly top. 6.0
LAYZIEDOGG February 25th, 2007, 02:13 AM looks like a giant temple I like it ,its a bold design 8/10
mtt16 March 6th, 2007, 08:38 AM ummm...it's not my taste
6.5/10
FloridaFuture March 18th, 2007, 02:07 AM Looks pretty bad, especially the top.
4/10
W!CKED March 22nd, 2007, 11:43 PM 7/10
Crizzy March 24th, 2007, 07:14 PM 10/10
Ralphkke May 17th, 2007, 06:06 PM Nah i do not like it, a 6 out of 10.
pau-chin May 18th, 2007, 08:54 PM http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/6361/grand50uj3.gif http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8877/grand50azj0.jpg
cong san muon nam June 8th, 2007, 07:50 AM It's too ugly :puke:
3/10
Aliya June 24th, 2007, 07:24 PM 6.5/10
LMCA1990 August 30th, 2007, 07:30 PM 7/10
Sound. August 31st, 2007, 11:42 PM 7/10
Slodi September 24th, 2007, 03:30 AM interesting design 8/10
Astralis September 24th, 2007, 02:27 PM Very traditional... 7/10
newyorkrunaway1 September 25th, 2007, 08:49 AM 1/10
MasonicStage™ September 26th, 2007, 08:36 PM 3,5/10
RON-E September 27th, 2007, 07:41 AM 4/10
krzewi January 8th, 2008, 01:12 AM 7/10
IMPRESARIO January 20th, 2008, 04:28 PM ugly top,ewww
Halabalooza February 24th, 2008, 11:31 AM interesting 8.5
44p March 1st, 2008, 12:06 AM Fuck it:puke:
1/10
roen March 14th, 2008, 01:58 PM brr 3
Michael_23 March 19th, 2008, 06:59 PM 8/10
Taiwanese style is handsome :)
davee08 March 23rd, 2008, 01:56 AM 7/10
GOR@N April 12th, 2008, 04:48 PM 9/10
Nikkodemo May 8th, 2008, 04:29 AM Strange shape.
7/10
Fundador May 8th, 2008, 11:23 AM nice 8/10:)
henry hill September 18th, 2008, 11:14 PM So different:) it is a different culture, but we are able to appreciate the beauty:) Interesting, interesting, so different!
8,5/10
briker October 9th, 2008, 06:03 AM The tower looks very interesting, except for the top that looks hideous
Rutger1991 October 9th, 2008, 02:26 PM 7/10
Eric Offereins October 12th, 2008, 03:20 PM 4/10 Not my taste at all, but the top is horrible.
Kawasaki KG October 18th, 2008, 07:42 PM 8/10
Malbo December 18th, 2008, 01:43 PM 4/10
SilentStrike January 18th, 2009, 02:40 PM not my taste... 4/10
DinamiT April 4th, 2009, 12:16 PM I don't know but i like it :D
9/10
A_Voz_Da_Figueira April 4th, 2009, 01:08 PM 10/10
tonyssa April 26th, 2009, 09:45 PM 8/10
skyperu34 May 16th, 2009, 01:21 AM Unique and original style !
9.0/10
Jan Del Castillo July 30th, 2009, 04:21 PM 8. Good building. Regards.
deranged August 14th, 2009, 01:49 PM 7.5/10
xavarreiro October 18th, 2009, 06:38 PM 8/10
desertpunk November 20th, 2009, 05:21 AM Insane attempt at vernacular styling. Crazy! 4
New York Morning January 6th, 2010, 10:13 PM 5.5
sieradzanin1 January 15th, 2010, 04:05 PM 5/10
national guard January 16th, 2010, 08:09 PM unique!
8.5/10
San Marcos, TX January 22nd, 2010, 02:10 PM 10/10
Belissimo
motozine August 21st, 2010, 09:11 AM 7/10
Heidjer August 22nd, 2010, 04:07 PM Wow, what a strange shape. 3/10
romanito August 23rd, 2010, 09:17 PM 9/10
ethan153 November 8th, 2010, 10:45 PM 6.5
OldBoy137 February 1st, 2011, 08:33 PM 7/10
Antonio227 February 3rd, 2011, 05:42 AM 7/10
v-sun February 11th, 2011, 02:50 PM 5/10
mossimoh May 1st, 2011, 10:48 PM Different..would look better if it had more glass..6.5/10
yudibali2008 May 20th, 2011, 04:02 PM 5/10
Geocarlos June 9th, 2011, 02:50 AM :down:
1/10
dnh310 June 10th, 2011, 12:45 AM 6,5/10
keroro91 June 15th, 2011, 10:23 PM 9/10
xJamaax August 3rd, 2011, 11:58 AM Nice one and this represents their architectural style:okay:
8/10
mecanico242 August 7th, 2011, 09:28 AM terrible, 0/10
Olianz August 14th, 2011, 05:30 AM great 8/10
Amboseli Daima August 20th, 2011, 01:46 AM 6.5 has a very 70's look.
cyberprince September 12th, 2011, 10:54 PM 6/10
Squiggles October 4th, 2011, 01:48 AM 5.5/10
I'd give it another point if it didn't have that weird thing on top.
balthazar October 7th, 2011, 09:08 AM 4/10
Dakaro January 10th, 2012, 11:48 PM 5/10
tim1807 January 28th, 2012, 07:03 PM 5/10
ikops January 29th, 2012, 05:54 PM Well, at least it's original.
Densetsu February 3rd, 2012, 02:07 PM Interesting design 8.5/10
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