Name: SABA Twin Towers (2+3)
Location: Jumeirah Lake Towers
Plots: Q1, Q3
Floors: 36
Height: 150m
Use: Residential
Cost: ?
Start Construction: 2004
End Construction: 2008
Part of JLT: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=1784261

Consultants: RMJM

www.saba-re.com

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/503/11020Saba_Twin_Towers.jpg

So just the one tread for two towers :)

they are joined at the base and share a common podium and basement

Picked up the SABA towers VideoCD while i was in Dubai. I have converted it to DIVX, had to to drop the resolution as I have a limited amount of webspace.
Saba Towers Video (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aftab.shaheen/sabatowers-LoRes.avi)

288 x 208 Video 44kbps / Audio 48kbps MP3
For best performance save locally before viewing.

It is 21Mb the original mpg file was 84Mb. Remember you need the DIVX/XVID codec to play the video.

Recommend you install this Codec first:- ffdshow xvid divx Codec 1.2Mb
http://goldnet.zive.net/ffdshow/ffdshow-20040520.exe


Recommend you also use a video player like
BSPlayer 1.9Mb
http://goldnet.zive.net/ffdshow/bsplayer100.808.exe

Some captures from the Video:-
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/3820saba000.jpg
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/3820saba002.jpg
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/3820saba003.jpg
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/3820saba005.jpg
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/3820saba007.jpg
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/3820saba008.jpg
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/3820saba009.jpg
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/3820saba010.jpg
http://www.xpphotoalbum.com/data/500/3820saba011.jpg



Salaamz,
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Saba awards Towers 2 and 3
The Saba Group has awarded the piling and foundation contract for its 36-storey twin-tower residential project in Jumeirah Lake Towers to the Abu Dhabi based Dutch Foundation Company. The twin-towers offer a combination of freehold residential and office units.
http://www.ameinfo.com/news/Detailed/45289.html

does it mean construction has started?

well i guess it means is only weeks away at the least if site has not already been cleared

Saba sells 75pc of residences in Twin Towers


Dubai : Seventy-five per cent of the Saba Twin Towers, the residential facility coming up at Jumeirah Lake Towers development, has been acquired by investors.

The group is investing over Dh570 million in Jumeirah Lake Towers, which also includes its first project, Saba Office Tower, which has seen 95 per cent of its units being sold.

"Rather than marketing our projects on a demographic basis, which in many ways is a much easier task, we decided to target an even cross-section of demographic groupings, so that the communities that we are endeavouring to create will be truly international in nature," said Behrouz Javaheri, chairman of Saba Group, which is the developer.

"We have been quite successful in our efforts thus far and have an even spread of investor groupings from across the world around 48 different nationalities are represented in our communities. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, no single nationality has more than a single digit representation in both these communities."

Javaheri dismissed recent market talk that the group was looking to tap the debt market to part finance the project.

"At this stage we are not looking at tapping the debt or equity market to finance our projects. Saba is a privately held group with enough resources to finance its plans of investing into the freehold property sector in Dubai.

"We are looking at our options; right now we have two major projects on hand, the freehold Saba office tower and the residential twin-towers. We have already announced that we will invest Dh1.2 billion in Dubai's real estate and property sector in the next two years. We have already identified our next project and will make an announcement in this regard when we are ready to launch."

On the near term pros-pects for the local freehold market, the official said: "The market is very buoyant and there is a quite a lot of dynamism in freehold. Dubai's success in freehold is even fuelling similar developments in other emirates of the UAE.

"The secondary market in the freehold and real estate market is a quite dynamic since demand is overshooting supply. The secondary market is already in play with our projects also, and there is a double digit premium on the units in our development now."

again selling 75% before the first core rise !
great for the building owners

Saba-Towers:

The Saba-Towers changes the criteria in puncto luxury and comnmfort: finest materials, most modern architecture, a lobby on the level of a 5star hotel, fitness-center, swimming pools on the roof terrasses, restaurants and shops, underground car park, concierge-service, 24-hours Safety services and much more. You see, life, in the Saba -Tower doesn’t leave wishes open!

2 B/R (left) or 3 B/R (right) starting at EUR 135,000.

http://www.firstclasstravel.de/saba_tower_real_estate.jpg

http://www.firstclasstravel.de/saba_gr_left.jpg http://www.firstclasstravel.de/saba_gr_right.jpg

saba tower 2

http://www.projectdubai.com/buildings/bld73_main.jpg

Saba Tower 3 (??)

http://www.projectdubai.com/buildings/bld74_main.jpg

sure they are ment to be twins

Saba Group announces awarding construction contract for its twin-tower project to ACC
Expediting the development of the Saba 2&3 twin-tower freehold residential project in the wake of enthusiastic response from investors, the Dubai-based realty major, Saba Group, today announced awarding the construction contract for the 36-storey project to Arabian Construction Company (ACC).

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http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/5/9515-saba.jpg
From left to Right, Behrouz Javaheri, Chairman, Saba Group & Hassan Auji, General Manager, ACC signing the construction contract for Saba Twin Tower at Jumeirah Lake Towers.

ACC was awarded the construction contract for the its twin-tower residential development coming up in the Jumeirah Lakes Towers community being developed by Nakheel, after a thorough due diligence process, including a public tendering exercise and several rounds of critical evaluation, a senior official of the Saba Group said.

Mr. Behrouz Javaheri, Chairman, Saba Group said: 'We have awarded this contract to ACC, as we are convinced that they can be our ideal partners in the development of this unique, ultra-modern development which is coming up in the progressive new residential and business district of Dubai, flanking the Sheikh Zayed Road.'

'We have worked with ACC before for our first project in Jumeirah Lake Towers – the Saba Tower I - comprising freehold office units, one of the pioneering developments in Dubai's property market. We are very confident that ACC will replicate its efficiency in executing a landmark project like the office towers, in the case of Saba twin-tower also,' he said.

Saba Group's freehold residential twin-tower is strategically located within a stone's throw from Dubai's landmark developments like The Palm Jumeirah, Dubai Marina and Dubai Technology & Media Free Zone, lending an unmatched and quality ambience to residents.

The development, which is one-of-its-kind development in Dubai with cutting-edge architectural elegance and infrastructural facilities including an array of amenities focused on making residents enjoy a luxury lifestyle, is located between Interchanges 5 and 6 on the Sheikh Zayed Road, spread over an area of about 1.1 million square feet, including a retail component of 31,000 square feet.

The Saba twin-tower project is the second investment of Saba Group in Jumeirah Lake Towers community. Earlier, the real estate major had announced its plan to invest a total of AED 1.2 billion within the freehold sector in Dubai, of which the two launched projects have contributed AED 570 million.

'We chose ACC because of its substantial background in executing an array of landmark projects, both in the region and Dubai. We are confident that this expertise and experience will translate into the efficient delivery of the Saba twin-tower project, which will be in line with our vision for the development,' Mr. Javaheri said.

A dynamic and progressive organization, ACC has grown to become a leader in its industry, since its inception in 1967. Through a comprehensive regional network, the company has established a healthy track record of efficiently delivered projects that range from power generation and desalination plants, to factories, hotels, hospitals, and intricately sophisticated smart buildings.

ACC's array of prestigious projects include the Etisalat Head Office buildings in Sharjah, Al Ain and Abu Dhabi. This apart, the construction major is currently building Rose Tower, the Rotanna Group's hotel apartment complex, which is expected to be the tallest building in Sheikh Zayed Road, while being the tallest such development in the world.

Mr. Hassan Auji, General Manager, ACC said: 'We consider bagging the Saba twin-tower deal as a significant achievement, adding to our project portfolio of landmark projects in the region. We have been partners with the Saba Group for the Saba Tower I and we are highly aware of the cutting-edge finish and quality the real estate major looks for in its projects.'

'At ACC we consider it as a privilege to be associated with the Saba Group as well as the Saba twin-tower project, which we are confident, is one of the unique developments in the freehold real estate and property sector of Dubai,' he added.

Saba Tower 3 (??)

http://www.projectdubai.com/buildings/bld74_main.jpg


No, it's actually same tower just another angle of Saba Tower I or II.

the sign board has been put up when i was there
it's a supersized one :D

the massive sign board

http://www.ayuplanet.com/dxblover/Sign Boards/Saba Twin Towers.jpg

Construction update from www.saba-re.com

residential tower 2
http://img224.exs.cx/img224/9629/saba22eg.jpg

residential tower 3
http://img224.exs.cx/img224/5623/saba30dl.jpg

wow what a hole...looks quite huge... :)

great they finally have site pics on their homepage

this is the status for most of the towers in jlt!

that will look much better than in the marina when all the towers grow at the same time... :cheers:

http://www.findaproperty.com/dubaipropertylink/p6064567.jpg

saba tower 2 & 3 as of march 10


http://www.saba-re.com/data/menu/saba2mar.JPG

http://www.saba-re.com/data/menu/Saba%203%2016th%20Feb%202005.JPG

lol the last pic is nice.
shows EXACTLY how construction is going on, ;) seems like the machine doesn't work?!

i think the guy with the sheet of paper is saying:

"No No! the plans are upside down! we are supposed to be building a tower, not digging a hole!"

A massive tower is being built and you Dubai Forumers are just like, Meh. So unfair, lol.

you get used to it after a certain time you know....
but we become excited when we see new base pics from the burj dubai!

Yeah. But if this was being built were I live. The thread would have hundred's of post from the forumers. We dont see new towers very often.

well...we do!
in dubai we have hundreds of towers uc and even more approved..

yeah, we're really spoilt.

its a shame, if only there were more :(

http://www.findaproperty.com/dubaipropertylink/p6064567.jpg


Here another tower :)

http://www.dubaipropertylink.com/property_images/dubai%20trip%20October%202004%20chip%201%20156%20L.jpg


Saba Twins in the scape.

http://www.dubaipropertylink.com/property_images/dubai%20trip%20October%202004%20chip%201%20160%20L.jpg

http://www.dubaipropertylink.com/property_images/dubai%20trip%20October%202004%20chip%201%20158%20L.jpg

http://www.dubaipropertylink.com/property_images/tower_alone_large.jpg

http://www.dubaipropertylink.com/property_images/Swiming_pool_large.jpg

The Location :

http://www.dubaipropertylink.com/property_images/Saba_location_Jumeirah_lakes_large.jpg

Floor Plan :

http://www.dubaipropertylink.com/property_images/new6_TO_26_large.jpg

http://www.dubaipropertylink.com/property_images/tower_alone_diagonal_large.jpg

the pool looks nice...
and it start to like it with those new renders...
thanks.

tower 2 on april 20

http://www.saba-re.com/data/menu/Saba%202%20April%202005.JPG

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/JLTSabaTwins2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/JLTSabaTwins.jpg

Nice twins, and nice to see some construction pics as well. :)

June 4th

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/altin/P1000260-1.jpg

they are all braking ground!! that will almost look like JBR...

July 19, 2005

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/sahmad/dd4d03d8.jpg

wow
the next one finally rising
it will be such a mess soon :eek:

maybe i will finally discover where everything is then...

Oct 1st

http://tinypic.com/e6ypts.jpg

ehm how abt building another floor :D ?

23/10/2005

http://tinypic.com/f05kx3.jpg

http://tinypic.com/f06as8.jpg

The board

http://tinypic.com/f06afb.jpg

thanks.
are these built the same way as festival city tower?

There is no any progress since the 1'st of October. Before October they made about one floor per week. Hope this is techology delay..

According to the picture from here http://armadaholding.com/images/Constructions/Armada/P3-2-L.JPG
looks like they have started another floor. Thats fine!

today

tower 2

http://tinypic.com/fuwft3.jpg

the core is 9 floors ahead :eek:

What is the status of Tower 3?, is it on the right side of that pic?

yes
still working on the foundation though

height for both is 150m



JLT fronts up against JBR with 78 towers to be built by 2008

http://www.itp.net/pictures/features/98proj200.gif
Saba Tower 1: The first freehold office block under construction in Dubai, is currently the tallest building on the Jumeirah Lake Towers plot. A total of 78 high-rise towers on the development are due to be completed by 2008.
One of the most striking aspects of Dubai’s Jumeirah Lake Towers (JLT) is the sheer scale of construction activity.

Located between Interchanges Five and Six on the Sheikh Zayed Road, Nakheel’s JLT will eventually be home to 78 high-rise towers spread over 26 plots of land. Construction work is now underway on almost 80% of these plots, which has created significant site access challenges.

So when Arabian Construction Company (ACC) was awarded the construction of Saba Tower 1, along with Saba 2 and 3 twin-towers at JLT, careful planning and scheduling was needed.

The US $46.2 million (AED170 million) Saba Tower 1 is the first freehold office project in Dubai and is currently the tallest structure in JLT. The design is for three basement floors, plus ground, plus 36 storeys — construction has now reached floor number 30 out of the final 40.

The project is due for completion in March 2006 when it will be handed over to the client, Saba Real Estate.

Saba 2 and 3 are residential towers and are scheduled for completion in September 2006. They will also be 40 storeys-high incorporating four basements, a ground floor plus 35 storeys. Construction has reached floor number 12 on the core, and slab number three.

The height of all three towers will be 150 m, and the consultant and engineer on the project is RMJM. All the 78 towers in JLT need to be ready by 2008.

According to Mahir Al Chalabi, project manager at ACC, one of the main challenges faced so far is the tight duration of the project: “We’re completing three 40-storey buildings in 18 months, when normally this type of tower project would take [approximately] 22 months.”

Hassan Auji, general manager at ACC agrees: “It’s a tight schedule but we’re used to working under this kind of pressure. To get around it we’ve had to increase the working hours.”

The summer daytime working ban during July and August was an issue for the project: “The ban affected us a lot because we lost four hours a day during the lunchtime and this needed to be recovered,” said Auji. “While we observed the regulations fully, at the end of the day we still have a schedule to deliver so we had to adjust the programme to accommodate this stoppage.”

Another challenge is coordinating the construction work with the infrastructure work that is also taking place: “It can be difficult and requires coordination of the materials delivery,” he adds.

According to Auji, having a thorough procurement schedule
for the project is helping them to meet targets: “The procurement scheduling for materials began the day we signed the contract — from reinforcement and readymix concrete right through to waterproofing and formwork.

“Dealing with sub-contractors for procurement within the local market can be problematic because they’re so busy, especially when it comes to timber and cladding,” says Auji. “When you send out the tenders, half of them will decline. And if you do get a price, you wait in the queue.”

Another crucial factor is taking into account the lead times for internationally-sourced materials. For example, the marble used on Saba 1 was imported from Canada and Brazil, but was then sent to China for cutting and polishing before being delivered to the construction site in Dubai.

Scheduling is crucial to ensure the approval, availability and delivery of materials to JLT is all done on time. All this involves careful planning and coordinating with Nakheel, the authorities and the project management to ensure the process runs smoothly.

“A lot of details need to move in parallel,” says Auji, “which is not easy because the site is so congested with other contractors, developers and infrastructure [development].
But as long as we have an access, there’s no problem.”

The level of activity at JLT is certainly keeping the ACC team on their toes: “At one point on Saba 1 we had to move our site offices to inside the building to make way for a road that was being built straight through the site,” says Auji.

Climbing formwork from Doka is being used to accelerate the floor cycle on all three towers, which is currently standing at five days. “Now we’ve reached a certain height on Saba 1 we have been forced to upgrade our plant equipment and to change the craneage,” says Al Chalabi. Potain cranes with a placing boom are now being used to deliver the concrete.

Subsequent upgrades to Saba 1 meant ACC had to alter some of the methodology of construction: “The client wanted to increase the clearance height throughout the building from 2.5 m to 2.7 m — we had to change the methodology of construction from cast in-situ to post-tensioning to accommodate this change,” explains Auji. “It took some time to get approved by JAFZA (Jebel Ali Free Zone Authority), but we did it.

“Usually when we undertake a job the client asks us to do value engineering to reduce the price,” he continues. “But this client is making upgrades to improve the end-product such as changing the marble in the lobby in Saba 1 from 1 m high to the entire wall, which will double the price of the finish.”

According to Behrouz Javaheri, chairman, Saba Real Estate, quality is the watchword for all three Saba towers: “There’s a lot of talk in this town about some of the construction here using shoddy materials, so we’re creating something of exceptional quality.

“We’re using materials that you will hardly ever find in this market; most of the materials are manufactured in Europe and most are custom-made,” he adds.

From the doors (which are all custom-made in Germany), to the lighting fixtures, gypsums, marbles and Villeroy & Boch sanitary ware, Javaheri says the finishes on Saba 1 in particular will be of the highest standard: “Saba Tower 1 will be the first tower delivery in Jumeirah Lakes in 2006 so we’re using the opportunity to establish our name for the future,” he says.

As the three Saba towers edge towards their completion dates, the frenetic pace of activity on site shows no sign of letting up. “There are currently [approximately] 700 ACC employees working on the three tower projects; 1500 [including] the sub-contractors,” says Auji.

And their work at JLT doesn’t stop there: ACC is also working on the 72-storey Al Mas tower (the Diamond tower) in a joint venture with Taisei. The 26-month job is currently at the foundation stage. Once complete, the 365 m-high tower will become the tallest building in JLT.

tower 2 today

http://tinypic.com/io2qls.jpg

looks like they are doing the core for a few weeks until it is like 5 floors ahead and then construct the floorplates and the core remains..
weird.

06/01/2006

Tower 2

http://tinypic.com/jtaop3.jpg

really weird, they are constructing the core till it is 5 floors ahead, then floor plates and core stopps until they have the same height, then the core starts again while the floorplates stop. :weird:

give me a reason why tower 3 takes so long!

tower 2

http://tinypic.com/k4dohj.jpg

SABA Tower 1, which was launched in 2003 as the first office tower in Dubai to offer freehold luxury offices to GCC nationals and expatriates, is set to become the first such tower to be ready for delivery.

The SABA Towers project comprises SABA Tower 2 and 3, a residential twin-tower, besides the 36-floor SABA Tower 1 - all strategically located on the Sheikh Zayed Road, in the heart of the Jumeirah Lake Tower development in New Dubai area, the lifestyle and business corridor of the UAE. The Towers overlook The Palm Jumeirah, and is in the neighborhood of Dubai Marina, Dubai Internet City and Dubai Media City.

SABA Tower 1 offers over 360,000 square feet of office space, and is equipped with state-of-the-art facilities. The individual offices will all feature high-quality finished ceilings, and will have specialty entrance doors. The project is expected to be complete by early April, 2006.

'We are focused on ensuring timely completion of SABA Towers and can assure investors that all three towers will be delivered on schedule,' said Behrouz Javaheri, Chairman, SABA Real Estate. 'The first project to be delivered will be the landmark SABA Tower 1, which is the first freehold luxury office project in the UAE. The project offers businesses a unique opportunity to own an office, effectively allowing them to turn the expense of rent into an asset. Equally, it allows business professionals to work from business premises that reflect their corporate objectives.'

'Product availability has now become the primary concern for property investors, who prefer a shorter Return on Investment (RoI) period and are hesitant to wait for long years for the project to be delivered. At the same time, investors are more conscientious today about quality than ever before, which gives SABA Real Estate a competitive edge as our projects are known to subscribe to the highest quality standards,' Javaheri said.

'SABA Real Estate has a vision for the future of the UAE property market, and we realize that a strong reputation built on an unwavering commitment to quality is essential to achieve our long-term goals. All professionals engaged in the construction of SABA Towers bring with them extensive experience and know-how, having been instrumental in the development of several prestigious real estate projects in the region. We have made it a policy to go beyond contractual obligations to provide added value to our clients. In addition, SABA Real Estate itself will be managing all its facilities in order to ensure that maintaining high standards continues to remain a priority,' Javaheri added.

SABA Tower 2 and 3, launched in 2003 and 2004 respectively, are the first residential twin-towers in Dubai. The project will have a combined 700 apartment units. SABA Tower 2 is scheduled to be complete by early November, 2006, while Tower 3 is expected to be ready for delivery by March 2007. Saba Twin Towers will offer fully-furnished studio, one and two-bedroom apartments, in addition to three-bedroom and penthouse apartments. Saba Twin Towers also include a state-of-art health club, temperature controlled swimming pool, high-speed elevators, professionally landscaped leisure areas and 24-hour security and facilities management services.

SABA Real Estate has partnered with UK-based consultants Robert Mathew, Johnson-Marshall (RMJM), one of the world's leading architectural and engineering firms, for the Towers' construction. Regional construction major Arabian Construction Company (ACC) is the primary contractor for SABA Towers.

ehm good and all but i wonder what the windspokesperson has to say to this article, because he claimed nakheel won't allow people to move in before 2007.

Flo i think the infrastructure for JLT will not be ready unitl 2007 so even if tower completed will be inhabitable.

And even if the tower opens in 2006....Most of the rest of JLT is still a building site and the lake has not even been fully completed or filled with water.

i am aware of that but indeed it is rather funny how those guys say the tower will be ready for occupation by april.

AED 1 billion SABA Towers project set for delivery in 2006

SABA Real Estate, the Dubai-headquartered real estate major, has announced that construction on the SABA Towers, valued at approximately AED 1 billion, is proceeding at a fast pace and the Towers will be ready for delivery well within schedule.

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/4/21054-SABATower.jpg
Artist impression of SABA Tower 2 & 3

SABA Tower 1, which was launched in 2003 as the first office tower in Dubai to offer freehold luxury offices to GCC nationals and expatriates, is set to become the first such tower to be ready for delivery.

The SABA Towers project comprises SABA Tower 2 and 3, a residential twin-tower, besides the 36-floor SABA Tower 1 - all strategically located on the Sheikh Zayed Road, in the heart of the Jumeirah Lake Tower development in New Dubai area, the lifestyle and business corridor of the UAE. The Towers overlook The Palm Jumeirah, and is in the neighborhood of Dubai Marina, Dubai Internet City and Dubai Media City.

SABA Tower 1 offers over 360,000 square feet of office space, and is equipped with state-of-the-art facilities. The individual offices will all feature high-quality finished ceilings, and will have specialty entrance doors. The project is expected to be complete by early April, 2006.

'We are focused on ensuring timely completion of SABA Towers and can assure investors that all three towers will be delivered on schedule,' said Behrouz Javaheri, Chairman, SABA Real Estate. 'The first project to be delivered will be the landmark SABA Tower 1, which is the first freehold luxury office project in the UAE. The project offers businesses a unique opportunity to own an office, effectively allowing them to turn the expense of rent into an asset. Equally, it allows business professionals to work from business premises that reflect their corporate objectives.'

'Product availability has now become the primary concern for property investors, who prefer a shorter Return on Investment (RoI) period and are hesitant to wait for long years for the project to be delivered. At the same time, investors are more conscientious today about quality than ever before, which gives SABA Real Estate a competitive edge as our projects are known to subscribe to the highest quality standards,' Javaheri said.

'SABA Real Estate has a vision for the future of the UAE property market, and we realize that a strong reputation built on an unwavering commitment to quality is essential to achieve our long-term goals. All professionals engaged in the construction of SABA Towers bring with them extensive experience and know-how, having been instrumental in the development of several prestigious real estate projects in the region. We have made it a policy to go beyond contractual obligations to provide added value to our clients. In addition, SABA Real Estate itself will be managing all its facilities in order to ensure that maintaining high standards continues to remain a priority,' Javaheri added.

SABA Tower 2 and 3, launched in 2003 and 2004 respectively, are the first residential twin-towers in Dubai. The project will have a combined 700 apartment units. SABA Tower 2 is scheduled to be complete by early November, 2006, while Tower 3 is expected to be ready for delivery by March 2007. Saba Twin Towers will offer fully-furnished studio, one and two-bedroom apartments, in addition to three-bedroom and penthouse apartments. Saba Twin Towers also include a state-of-art health club, temperature controlled swimming pool, high-speed elevators, professionally landscaped leisure areas and 24-hour security and facilities management services.

SABA Real Estate has partnered with UK-based consultants Robert Mathew, Johnson-Marshall (RMJM), one of the world's leading architectural and engineering firms, for the Towers' construction. Regional construction major Arabian Construction Company (ACC) is the primary contractor for SABA Towers.

i doubt tower 2 will be finished by november

tower 2 today

http://i1.tinypic.com/ngwq6q.jpg

Just like to say salaam and a big hello to everyone from London UK, just found this website and decided to register. Glad to see some pictures of tower 2, Dubai-lover keep up the good work with posting all the up to date pics which the official Saba site should be posting :nono:
I was a bit curious with the fact that i thought that the tower 2 was originally planned for completion in March 2006, but then was pushed back to June 2006 and now November 2006, does this mean that there will be some sort of compensation given to the buyers of the apartments?

25/02/2006

SABA 2 http://i1.tinypic.com/okof8j.jpg

can anyone post the most up to dat pics on the towers as on the saba website i am unable to view the latest pictures. :)

thx
rab

the one above is 4 days old? is this enough?

The ground floor of SABA 3 is compleated and they are working on the 1st floor atm.

However I doubt they will meet the estimated completion dates. No way SABA 2 will be ready by November 2006 or SABA 3 one year from now.

21/05/2006

http://i4.tinypic.com/10f1d7c.jpg

saba 2 is nice
but why can't they make any progress on 3? :ohno:

10/06/2006

http://i5.tinypic.com/13zu4r5.jpg

Just wondering what people have to say about Saba Towers and that article which was published a couple of months ago about its completion.

So whose living in there right now, and hows the water and electricity?

Feedback would be good! :)

completion November 2006 WSP :)

completion November 2006 WSP :)

Ya the same building which was supposed to be ready May 2006, and had interviews with the Chairman of their company and CEO of JLT saying theyd be trying to get water and electricity on time. However, we are a developer and we are on the site everyday and when nothing has happened for 2 years, its impossible to get things done in 2 weeks. Now its more realistic but still doubtful. Good luck as said before, because they will be doing all of us a favor!

^^ No, that was SABA 1 Office Tower. These two are SABA 2 & 3, Residential Towers.

08/07/2006

http://i6.tinypic.com/1zewn82.jpg

july 30

http://i7.tinypic.com/21mw482.jpg

http://i7.tinypic.com/21mw7bq.jpg

Thanks for the update!

wow!!! All JL Towers are going up at the same progress!!

wow!!! All JL Towers are going up at the same progress!!
Except of course "Wind Tower" as it is not getting anywhere and gone with the wind...

I rekon atleast 6 months behind on the October 2006 revised date!!

Wonder if owners have been notified yet that its not going to be ready, of course not that would promt a halting of the payments. Its obvious now that the developer has lied his socks off with fantasy dates. Don't tell them the truth, tell them what they want to hear and protect your cash flow.

THIS IS WHY INVESTORS ARE NO LONGER INTERESTED IN OFF PLAN DEVELOPMENTS!!

I 'am pretty disappointed what AltinD and DubaiLover have stopped their updates of the towers at JLT. I have an apartament at Saba2, and since I'm not living in UAE I do not know what is happeing with he tower :(

^^ u should first of all thank them for their previous updates.

Dennis is very busy and hasn't been in the UAE for the past half year, Altin is not in Dubai at the moment as well.

I 'am pretty disappointed what AltinD and DubaiLover have stopped their updates of the towers at JLT. I have an apartament at Saba2, and since I'm not living in UAE I do not know what is happeing with he tower :(

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize the mighty investors were being disappointed. So sorry Sir. Perhaps, this is not the forum for you going by your selfish attitude.

15.09.2006 by Imre

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Stephan, are you sure the photos you posted are of Saba tower 2 & 3. they dont look as if they are?

i have been speaking to a representative of Saba estates, regarding the handover of the units in Saba towers 2, and as i have a type 01 we had the added benefit of being able to convert this unit into a 2 bedroom where as officially it was a 1 Bedroom.

Anyway this is the email reply that the rep has sent me:

Dear Mr. Khan

As per our discussion, we wish to inform you that there are some changes in
the layout.
Your apartment was originally signed as 1,010 sq ft. and one bed room. Now
it is converted into a two bed room and the size is 1,183.60 sq ft.

As per the terms of our agreement, for any increase in size, we will charge
you pro-rata for the difference in size.

We have to revise your agreements and put in the new price.

We will do so in due course of time.

Kindly bear with us in the meanwhile.

Regards

My question is are they allowed to do this and just charge us the extra for the change or have we not got a leg to stand on, i know it says that it is mentioned in the contract but in normal circumstances you would expect thesize to be slightly smaller and not increased by approx 170sq ft.

As you can appreciate that there will be a lot of people out there who are working to tight budgets and may find it difficult to arrange the extra finances required.

Rab

That is not beautiful for them. But if this in the contract, looks like there is no choise for you :(. The only good thing if you bougth this unit pretty long lime ago, now you will pay extra for the past prices.
By the way, do you have at the contract the compensation for the delay and what is completion date in the contract? I have in mine the June 2006 and a compensation for every week of delay.
Also, what they said about the real handover date?

Hi VB,

Completion date in the contract for me was also June 06, they did also mention the compensation, but i think that this will only be the interest on the amount of money that you have paid them.... until completion. So probably not worth writing home about.

They did also mention to me that the revised completion/handover date will be January 2007. So fingers crossed

Are there any other Saba purchasers on this site or are any of the posters in touch with Saba purchasers? It would be good if we could be aware of each other

Hi Cheath,

So far it looks like it is me, yourself and VB that are owners of apartments, anyone else out there? Good idea to get to know each other through this forum as we may bump into each other probably closer towards the completion date:) I am purchasing a type 01 as mentioned on the 20th floor and will be stung to the amount of approx £20k :omg: extra for my apartment that was not planned for.

Cheath - you may want to contact a Saba rep and see what they have decided with your apartment.

My theory is that the apartments that they were unable to sell due to maybe the small size and shape of them, they have now decided to just add them onto the other apartments that have been sold, and as they now know that we are committed as we have probably all paid in the region of 50% we will just have to pay what they ask for:nono:

Evo8.

Thanks for that. I think it would be good for us to get together over the internet as a group as it will give us more leverage with the developer over matters such as delivery, managemnet charges and level of managemnet when the project is complete.

If any other Saba purchasers are reading the forum but not registered or posting, please register and make yourselves known!!

Thanks

By the way, I was in their office several days ago and my unit was not changed. Type 11. They promissed to complete the tower at Feb 2007

13/10/2006

Saba Towers O1 and O3 plot

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great new image of Saba 2 on

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=114160&page=18

I would have put image on screen but not sure how to!!!

Yeah, nice picture. Especially it is actual since the pictures at saba-re.com are broken and looks like they are not going to fix links. But anyway, their progress is good!

How can this be possible ?

United Arab Emirates: 1 hour, 41 minutes ago

Work on Saba Tower 1 at Jumeirah Lake Towers has been completed, with the 36-storey development offering freehold office space now ready for delivery, Saba Real Estate said in statement. The Saba Towers project also comprises twin residential towers with a combined 700 apartments, scheduled for completion by the end of 2006.

http://www.ameinfo.com/100279.html

doesn't look that much finished

Saba tower 1 is probably finished.

SABA Tower 1 at Jumeirah Lake Towers complete & ready for delivery
31-Oct-2006


Saba Tower I

SABA Real Estate, the Dubai-headquartered real estate major, has announced that SABA Tower 1, the first of the SABA Towers projects located in Jumeirah Lakes Towers in Dubai, is ready for delivery, making it the first tower within Jumeirah Lakes Towers to be ready for the hand-over.

“It is a matter of pride to us that SABA Tower 1 has become the first tower in Jumeirah Lakes Towers to be ready for delivery,” said Behrouz Javaheri, Chairman, SABA Real Estate.

SABA Tower 1 has become the first freehold and free zone office tower in Dubai to be issued the Certificate of Occupancy by Jebel Ali Free Zone Authority (Jafza), paving the way for commencement of delivery. A 36-storey tower with a total of 360,000 square feet of office space, SABA Tower 1 was launched in 2003 as the first office tower in Dubai to offer freehold luxury offices.

Source:Gowealthy

i have someone interested in purchasing my apartment, but has requested some pictures, i was wondering if the team has managed to take any updated pictures on SABA 2.

Thank you in advance
Rab

^^ The building is topped up and some 40 - 50 % of the glass pannels are (randomly) in place.

Evo8,
Are you not going to live there? I thougth we will be neighbours :cheers1:

AltinD,

Thank you for the update.:)

VB,

i am still in two minds as to sell or keep, as when i purchased it it was as an investment and being based in London, you can imagine what it will be like to manage this from a distance, but you never know, if the market looks like it will still remain positive then i may keep it for a while longer. By the way where are you based?

i am still in two minds as to sell or keep, as when i purchased it it was as an investment and being based in London, you can imagine what it will be like to manage this from a distance, but you never know, if the market looks like it will still remain positive then i may keep it for a while longer. By the way where are you based?
I'am from St-Petersburg, Russia, not living in Dubai also. Since the tower had no delays in progress from the start I think the only required way to manage this is to periodically refresh pics and send payments :). Bought my unit to have an escape from a cold winter :runaway: :banana:
According your unit :gossip: : If someone offers to sell it, then it means what accordig his opinion the unit worth more than that money :)

Evo8 & VB

Have Saba given you a completion /handover date yet?

Are they in touch with you about interest compensation paymnets? If so when do they say yours start from?

I live in LIverpool and have the same concerns over long term managemnet. I think we will hang onto the property and rent it out with a view to holding it for the longer term.

Altin- I know its a drag but is there any chance of putting a couple of photos on the site?

Have they started wotk on the lake area yet?

cheath,
About a monts ago they told that the completion is Feb 2007. I believe this is date then all 'external' work will be finished. Giving them another 3 monts for finishing and installing furniture.
About the compensation. They told if it is in the contract, they will pay it. We agreed to deduct this amount from the final payment.

VB

Please check you pm!

I have actually spoken to a SABA rep today although i was unable to speak to the manager of the resedential apartments....I will be contacting him tomorrow for sure.

But back to the point, i was today told that tower 2 will be completed in March 07 and the official handover will be in April 07.

When i asked to speak to any other manager in the office:bash: i was told that the only other manager was away at the site of the SABA commercial tower 1, for the official handover today.

I have also not been given a updated floor plan to the modified apartment that i have, which is starting to get a bit frustrating!!

EVo8

If you get to speak to someone and have a name or contact number will you please share it. I contacted VB who said he had visited the offices and discussed the issue of compensation. The contract is pretty clear on how it should function. In my contract if they exceed the handover date of 31 December 2006 they are to pay interest on money paid on the baisis of a 90 day US$ rate (LIBOR) I think. I emailed them the other day to say if they were looking to calculate this and deuct if frmo the last paymnet. Their response was a disturbing....we are not sure. This si one reason why we need to make sure more peole who deal with Saba share their information!!

Thanks

i was in dubai last week and visited the Saba offices and spoke to Mr Sunil. I started off by asking him about the compenstation and was a bit upset with his reply, he told me that they would not pay any compensation as they were going through a force majeure. If you read the contract the heading force majeure states.

"Interuption of failure of utility service including but limited to electric power, gas, water or telephone service; breach of contract by any essential contractor or subcontractor or any other matter or cause beyond the control of the seller"

It looks like they are working to apply this clause in the contract to avoid being penalised.:mad2:

I also spoke to him regarding the power and water supplies and was told that even Saba tower 1 has no official power and water supplies.... Saba had to be granted temporary permission by the government to install temporary units to supply these facillities. It looks like when Saba 2 is complete we will probably have to put up with this kind of setup as the official supplies will not be in place IMHO.

I have also taken some pictures of the tower and some internal shots of saba 1 just to give people some idea of the quality that they can expect......but as usual i have no idea how to attach these images can some one give me a hand or i can email them to someone.

Thx
Rab

^^ Go to: www.tinypic.com

Upload pictures there (one by one) and upon succesfull uploading, a image link will be generated; just copy that link and paste it in here.

Consider that the picture must be less then 250Kb in file size, so you have toi resize them before uploading, or you can use www.imageshack.us for pictures up to 1.5MB in size.

AltinD thanks for the info

how do users paste there pics on this forum without using a third party?

ok try these

Saba tower 1, work still going on although tower has been handed over

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if this works i will post up the rest

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ground floor access to the lifts....looked lush:)

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View of the Lake from the 33rd floor of Saba tower 1, when the water is in it will look sweet IMO

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View from the front of the tower onto dubai Marina

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External shots of Saba tower 2

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coming along nicely:)

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Awesome shots. THX for posting Evo8! :master:

Ev08. Great pix thanks for posting

I have a freind who is a senior construction lawyer based in Dubai and will speak to here about your comments. It would be interesting to learn if anyone else as part of this forum would join up in pressing the compensation angle. According to my freind she says that the Dubai courts still expect developers to be bound by agreemenst and take a very dim view of trying to wriggle out. I think the key to getting this issue resolved is to ensure a united approach, individually they will try to marginalise us and have greater pesonla knowledge of the courts. Anyone prpeared to sign up for a concerted approach?

Evo8,
Cool pisc, thanks a lot!

cheath,
The "good" way they can go to solve their problem is to say that 1% per year will be pretty enough. Since we do not not have the exact value in the contracts, it is "negotiable". I'am ready to join, but in the case if their real offer will not satisfy me and will be pretty smaller than we can get in the court.

tanks for the info

Cheath & VB,

I would join up as part of a team with you guys without hesitation,:grouphug: but it looks like it will only be the three of us as no one else seems to be concearned, is it just the three of us or is there something that we are missing:lol:

Cheath Its a good thing that you have that lovely friend of yours in that lovely senior position, we may have to call on her....fingers crossed hope it does not come to that

I will send my email address to the both of you in a PM, in case there is anything that you would like to discuss away from this forum:)

I have today sent an email to Wade Adams Contracting the company that is in charge of the Infrastructure and landscaping of Jumeirah Lake towers, kindly requesting information regarding water and electric supply to Saba tower once it is complete in March

By the way Happy New Year:)

^^ Why should Wade Adams be responsible for water and electricity supply to the tower? That's DEWA's job.

:bash: , i was under the impression it was Wade Adams who were supposed to be doing this. I stand corrected Altind

^^ They may lay the cables and pipes, but how good is that when the master (DEWA that is) controls the switches and rubinets.

^^ They may lay the cables and pipes, but how good is that when the master (DEWA that is) controls the switches and rubinets.

this is actually what i intend to find out if the main cabling and pipework will indeed be ready by March. ready for DEWA to switch on the supplies

Saba Tower 2 is currently on fire!!!

News about the fire on: http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/General/10097710.html

does anyone know the website for the saba group, post it pls

does anyone know the website for the saba group?

does anyone know the website for the saba group?

http://www.saba-re.com/residential/Home.htm

Saba Tower 2 is currently on fire!!!

that nearly gave me a heart attack!

but never the less a tragedy from which ever angle you look at it considering 4 people lost their lives.

that nearly gave me a heart attack!

but never the less a tragedy from which ever angle you look at it considering 4 people lost their lives.

The weird thing is that in the newspapers they are saying the Fortune tower by Fortune Group, even including a comment from Fortune Group.

We got it wrong guys. It was the Fortune Tower not Saba. The two look somewhat similar.

Sorry guys my fault. I balme my friend who lives in the waves she phoned me to ay Saba was on fire.

Has anyone else had the flyer from saba boasting of their quality improvemnets and the opening line or force majeur? From the definition in the contract they could claim force majeur if the sand was yellow!! Still looking inot this one and if anyone as well as EVo and VB want to join forces please let me know.

cheath,
Did you got something from them? If yes, please let us know what is described there.

cheath,
Did you got something from them? If yes, please let us know what is described there.

Hi VB,

Hope all is well.

Just like to mention that i have also received a 2007 diary:banana: and a update from Saba on the upgrade of materials that are to be used in the apartments for example...tiles on the floors and the doors etc etc and also a list of all the major manufacturers that are to supply fixtures and fittings and all other extras in the apartments. But then it goes on to say that we are not being charged extra for this upgrade......so make what you want of this statement.

I get the feeling that when we do a claim for compensation they will hit us with this gimmick of an upgrade of materials used in the apartments.

Evo8,
Thanks for the description.
Got a call from the post office what there is a parcel post for me, probably this is it.
We have to check is there are finishing specifications in the contracts. I do not have mine with me at this moment, but in the contract for another tower at JLT everything decribed very detailed.
As for me, if in the SABA contracts we also having detailed description, I'm ready to accept improvements on the finishing or furniture (bigger TV, leather sofas for example) as the compensation. The only required thing is what these improvements should worth this delay.

to be honest you can be happy to get anything.

i am not sure what exactly your contract states regarding compensation, but most investors in Dubai face a 1 year delay and they just have to accept it.

to be honest you can be happy to get anything.

i am not sure what exactly your contract states regarding compensation, but most investors in Dubai face a 1 year delay and they just have to accept it.

Yep thats exactly what we have endured, as my contract states completion for March 2006, and here we are almost at March 2007.

According to this http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9002/photo2015pi.jpg picture from Imre, it will be very difficult for them to finish everything until March, 31 as they states. There is a very huge work to go: to install elevators, doors, all finishshings, lobby design, sanitary ware, cables, furniture, electronics, pool on the roof, gym, climate systems and much much more. So I think the real handover date will be at autumn.

Hi...

I've also got a flat in Saba 2, and am not impressed by the current delay in handover.

How many people in your forum are in the same boat?

Regards

Paul

March 31st handover is not possible; autumn it MAY be possible.

I have today sent an email to Wade Adams Contracting the company that is in charge of the Infrastructure and landscaping of Jumeirah Lake towers, kindly requesting information regarding water and electric supply to Saba tower once it is complete in March
Any reply to your enquiry?

Taken 10 Feb

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Great photo, thanks!

True Blue i have to say that is a great picture:)

Any reply to your enquiry?


No reply from them....just typical

Here's another, slightly under exposed but what the heck!

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And again

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22/02/2007

Q plots , Saba Towers

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Imre

Thanks for the Pics they look realy good. Couldt tell from the shot from the lake area whether or not any lake works such as side walls had started.

Just to let everyone know we were in Dubai for the last 4 days and things at Saba continue to grow. Saba Tower 2 is not far off fuly clad and Saba 3 (the one we are buying in) is close to constrcution of the fram. I thinik they are just finishing off the 'square bit' on the roof. Guess this may be part of the lift motor rooms. Also cladding has started (al beit not a lot) on the lower sections of tower 3.

Imre

Thanks for the Pics they look realy good. Couldt tell from the shot from the lake area whether or not any lake works such as side walls had started.

Just to let everyone know we were in Dubai for the last 4 days and things at Saba continue to grow. Saba Tower 2 is not far off fuly clad and Saba 3 (the one we are buying in) is close to constrcution of the fram. I thinik they are just finishing off the 'square bit' on the roof. Guess this may be part of the lift motor rooms. Also cladding has started (al beit not a lot) on the lower sections of tower 3.


Thx for the update Cheath:)

Hi all.... well I've just been given the first pic's of the furniture package for Saba II flats, looks ok... I'll try to add them to the next post....

Regards

Belly

It will be great! :banana:

Belly,

it will be good to see the quality of the furniture:banana: is this something that Saba have sent you through the post?? Also it looks like this time around it may actually be completed by June 07 and not get put back again!!

Hi there guys. Everyone with apartmenst in Saba 2 have Saba givem you any updates on completion dates yet?

They gave me a date of March 07 but then i heard from this site that that was not possible and that it may be June 07. Them muppets from Saba did not even have the courtesy to tell me this, its a good thing that we have this resource available to us..... so i am not expecting them to tell me anything now unless it is actually gonna be realistically completed.

18/03/2007

Saba Towers

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Imre,

Thx for the updated pics mate.

anyone else had any pics sent to them showing the furniture?

Imre, thanks for the update!
Evo8, got nothing. :ohno:

hi, this is a first for me. we are buying appt. in saba 3. Just heard it won't be ready until 31/10/2007 and had an e-mail about the furniture package, saba are putting the package in so we have no say in it at all. Bit worrying don't you think. let me know if anyone else has updated info. cheers

Malden, hi

Who did you get the comlpetion date off? We also are buing in Saba 3. The furniture package situation doesnt surprise me. The interesting thing is in the letter they may have sent you about 'improving the specification'. Here the first statement they make is that they are suffering Force Majuer(FM). In the UK FM would be an act of God, but the definition they use in the contract can cover anything. They could claim that because the sand is yellow this is FM and a justification for delay.

hi cheath,
I phoned Saba about the completion date because as you know they are not upfront in giving updates and also their info on construction updates on web page is being "updated". I was put through to yasmin, who is dealing with the residential towers, she told me the date has been put back for saba 3 until 31/10/07 and also promised to send furniture package details to me. Needless to say never received this , so I e-mailed Saba and received e-mail on Sunday to say they have no definite date for completion and as for the furniture that they have 800 clients and if we all wanted different packages they wouldn't be able to order in time, e-mail states "so as of now we will be selecting furniture for you" and that we won't be disappointed!!!!!!!!!!! the letter was signed by Ms Rhoda Tan but have been told to contact yasmin@ saba-re.com if any other info required. I'm not happy about not having any say in the furniture and am taking my contract to a friend who is a Barrister to look at and see if that is legal. Will let you know outcome.

12/April/2007

Saba Twin Towers

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Thanks and welcome back Imre :okay: !

Thanks Imre! I just cant live without your update!! :D

Imre, really appreciate your time and effort on posting the updated pics for the community to see.

Rab

thanks , and welcome:)

15/April/2007

Saba Towers

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Imre, thank you once again for the great shots.

I would just like to mention that i have received an email from Saba management on the delivery time for the tower 2, and this should not come as a surprise to anyone but the delivery has once again been delayed......:bleep: now until the end of 3rd quarter 2007 (September 2007), they have mentioned that this is because they are continuing to experience events beyond their control as a developer (force majeure).:bash: The original completion date i was given on my contract was March 2006.....that it is a delay of 1 year and 6 months, which i no doubt am expecting to see some compensation to be given to me for. I think it may be time to speak to some lawyers, so if any of you folk out there know of any top lawyers that i can speak to, please PM me their details.

Thank you

I have a good friend who works for a firm of construction lawyers in Dubai and I could approach her formally to see if they would undertake some work on this project. It would seem to me that we would have a greater prospect of success if any legal approach was on behalf of a number of Saba purchaers. As such some form of 'class' action. It would also help with the costs. Please let me know who is interested? Its a shame we cant find more Saba purchasers. Any idea on how we could try to do this?

hi cheath... dont know what kind of response you got but we have a flat in Saba II as well and I'd like to know what can be done legally to... although I'm not sure a class action would work in dubai as the commercial and property law is pretty basic... but please let me know what happens... cheers

Belly



I have a good friend who works for a firm of construction lawyers in Dubai and I could approach her formally to see if they would undertake some work on this project. It would seem to me that we would have a greater prospect of success if any legal approach was on behalf of a number of Saba purchaers. As such some form of 'class' action. It would also help with the costs. Please let me know who is interested? Its a shame we cant find more Saba purchasers. Any idea on how we could try to do this?

Cheath good to hear from you buddy......i think we will defo have to at least take some form of action against Saba as a delay of 18 months is just not acceptable and an excuse such as materials not arriving on time is just plain B***S***, this is not even mentioned in the contract, force majeure is an act or event that is beyond their control as a developer.....when was the last time you heard that materials not arriving on time caused a delay of 18 months, and if that was the case then how come Saba 1 was only delayed by a few months.

I am also sure that VB will be along shortly to join us but for sure i am with you on this one, if you would like to PM me with any details of the solicitor rather than posting on an open forum please feel free to, but i seriously think we should consider taking legal action.

Thx

Saba Towers 22/4/07

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Trust me guys you are very lucky, there are some project that set by completion by end of 2007 and still is on ground works (Vue du lac-k3), what’s gonna happen to people who invested, only god knows

ok i have been given some pics of the furniture from Saba Real Estates and thought i would share them with my future neighbours on this site. :) You can also make out the quality of the apartments whick look to be to very high standards as mentioned. Hopefully it looks like this tower will finally be finished in August as mentioned

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Did you order wood floor by yourself or it's included in the finishing?

this is not a picture of my apartment, but a pic of one of the first apartments on the lower floors to be completed. I think that all the apartments will be getting this flooring installed in the bedrooms.

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Evo8, thanks a lot for sharing the pics. The furniture is looking not cheap. But, as for me, I was expecting the modern style instead of classic. Anyway, it is hard to please everyone and this variant is also very good.

hi guys,
when do you think te saba tower 2 will be ready for hand-over? i went past the building over the last few weeks and did not really see any change :nuts: is there some kind of legal action being take by anyone regarding the claimed "force majeur" which is absolute BS, as there was no force majeur in dubai. i think that a collective action should be take against saba for some compensation or something, as this is not really fair fo us buyers. let me know what you guys think.

regards

dubai2010

hi mate,
i have over the last couple of days spoken to a Saba rep, and told her that i was going to speak to my lawyers on claiming compensation, she told me that only 2 other people had done this so far and that the courts had decided in the favour of Saba real estates and the 2 clients had to pay for all costs, but if you ask me that is complete bull, as like you say there was no such force majeur in Dubai, if there was then why did it not effect Saba Tower 1, this was delayed by only a few months i think, which is acceptable, but 18 months for me.... that is outragous, i along with my uncle and a few other guys on this forum are willing to form a team and then claim compensation so please feel free to join in, Also can you please PM me your details as i would like to call you and talk on the phone regarding this.

Evo8,
Actually Saba 1 was promised to be ready by the end of 2005. But it was handed over on November 2006. So the delay was 11 months.

Hi Guys I am also interested in taking some action for the long delay of saba2
We need some good lawyers to find the owners list of saba 2 and contact them so we know how many people want to get compensation for the delay
we all must do that!!!!!!




hi mate,
i have over the last couple of days spoken to a Saba rep, and told her that i was going to speak to my lawyers on claiming compensation, she told me that only 2 other people had done this so far and that the courts had decided in the favour of Saba real estates and the 2 clients had to pay for all costs, but if you ask me that is complete bull, as like you say there was no such force majeur in Dubai, if there was then why did it not effect Saba Tower 1, this was delayed by only a few months i think, which is acceptable, but 18 months for me.... that is outragous, i along with my uncle and a few other guys on this forum are willing to form a team and then claim compensation so please feel free to join in, Also can you please PM me your details as i would like to call you and talk on the phone regarding this.

Hi there guys. If any of you have Pm me I aplogise for not returning the PM. I dont seem to be able to. If anyone could let me know very quickly how I reply to a PM it would be apprecaited.

The secret here is trying to get as many people involved as posible rather than necesarily the strength of the case. As individulas we have much less gravitas.

I am currently looking int a few legal points and will share them with you all via PM. When someone can let me know how to do this. The problme with a forum is that it is open for nyone to view so it might help if we all shae some information about each other such as flat number block and normal emails?

Can you please add your name to this list or PM me so that we know how many people we have to start some form of legal proceedings against Saba.

And if anyone knows of a decent laywer that we could use, i think Cheath has someone that he could recommend.

I also have my uncle who has an apartment and is seeking some form of compensation, so that makes 6 residents so far and the others are listed below.

Evo8
Cheath
VB
Judge2007
Dubai2010

Cheath if you go to the top once you login there is a link that takes you straight to your private messages.

15/June/2007

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Hi Guy's would just like to say hello and let you know that I am with you if you want to go for compensation. My friend and I both purchased property in the Saba 2 tower in February 2005, with the expectation of completion in December 2005. Within a couple of weeks this had changed to March 2006 and the date just keeps moving back as you well know. I too wrote to Yasmin in December 2006 and told her that I was demanding compensation for the loss of earnings in rental and loss of interest on the money. She advised me that this was not a reasonable request as they were in Force Majuere and I wouldn't get anywhere. I wrote back to her telling her what FM means but she said the contract had been signed accepting the FM that they were experiencing.I also asked her about having some say on the furniture and flooring that was being supplied. I was told that my request had come through too late even though I had originally enquired about this in January 2006. I could go on forever but am new to this forum and not sure who reads what so perhaps you can let me know a bit more about it and how I can speak to you in a more private manner. As I said a friend and I have a property each so you can add 2 more people to your list. Look forward to hearing from someone soon.

Hi there guys. If any of you have Pm me I aplogise for not returning the PM. I dont seem to be able to. If anyone could let me know very quickly how I reply to a PM it would be apprecaited.

The secret here is trying to get as many people involved as posible rather than necesarily the strength of the case. As individulas we have much less gravitas.

I am currently looking int a few legal points and will share them with you all via PM. When someone can let me know how to do this. The problme with a forum is that it is open for nyone to view so it might help if we all shae some information about each other such as flat number block and normal emails?

M&Mroyer and also VB you have PM please respond.

By the Way out of interest can someone tell me how far the Metro station will be from Saba Tower 2 and its exact location and also the name of the station if possible.

Thank you

just receive this email today :

Dear sir / madam

Please find attached important information regarding your residential unit in SABA Tower 3.

This correspondence has also been sent by regular mail to the address we have on file.

Thank you

Yours faithfully:

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11th June 2007


Dear valued client,

We write with reference to the purchase of your new home in Saba 3 residential tower.
While we are dedicated to building and delivering quality properties, to enable our clients to have an enjoyable new home and surroundings, it has become necessary to reschedule the projected completion date.
The new estimated completion date for Saba 3 residential tower is expected to be before the end of the 4th quarter 2007.
The above, projected, completion date is later than anticipated because we are continuing to experience events beyond our control as a developer (force majeure).
Pursuant to the property purchase agreement, we hereby give you further notice of the continuation of this situation.
We shall notify you of the actual completion date not later than 30 days prior to such date, pursuant to the property purchase agreement.
The rescheduling of the completion of Saba 3 residential tower will ensure that we are able to provide you with a quality new home.
Thank you and should you have any queries in the interim period please feel free to contact us on the numbers listed at the bottom of this correspondence, or by email should you prefer.

Yours faithfully


Saba Real Estate Management

M&Mroyer and also VB you have PM please respond.

By the Way out of interest can someone tell me how far the Metro station will be from Saba Tower 2 and its exact location and also the name of the station if possible.

Thank you

The metro stations serving JLT are located next to plots D1 (station name: Jumairah Lake Towers) and S3 (Station name: Marina). SABA Twin Towers are in the middle between the stations. They are almost 500 meters away from both stations.

M&Mroyer and also VB you have PM please respond.

By the Way out of interest can someone tell me how far the Metro station will be from Saba Tower 2 and its exact location and also the name of the station if possible.

Thank you

You might find this map useful.

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hi everyone,
dont know if you guys where watching the saba development over the last few weeks. what i saw over the last few weeks is that nothing is going on and the exterior covering is still not completed an was the same as a month and a half ago. according to my observations, i would sy that no progress on the building is going on and that the august deadline will nt be meet. i was already told that completing will maybe be october. however i think they are playing on time. please let me know if you hold any other information.

A couple of years ago I bought 2 units in Saba Tower II. Over the years all employees have pretty muched vanished from Saba for some odd reason:weird: :weird: Those who sold you your units are no longer there. The person who sold me my unit told me that once I had reached 50% of the payment I will be eligible to apply for a loan and get the remaining 50% payed by loan. Turns out that here is no such loan thing available and no Bank will give you a loan until the building has finished and been handed over to the unit owners. Project was delayed many times with no reimbursement or anyone notifying you of delays unless one had personally picked up the phone and called themselves.:ohno: :ohno: Checking their website for updates is about as useless as can be. I have a website and it takes me less then 1 minute to upload a new picture onto my website. I imagine they have an Inidan Computer Engineer who is responsible for updating their website. For the last 8 months no updates arew done on their website to show investors of current progress. How FUC**** hard can it possible be to have someone update your website with new progress pictures for all the investors or unit owners who bought units in your project be??:bash: You have all these people who spent 700K Dhms. on up for each unit, is it too much to ask for in return that you keep your buyers or investors updated via website on your current construction progress. What is easier hire one expat to update the website once a month of current progress on answer 100's of calls on a daily basis of people asking you of current progress on the project??:bash: :bash: When I send them my payment that is due, no one replies back to me confirming receipt of payment unless I call them up to follow up on it. Simple courtesy would be having them sending you an email stating that they have received your recent payment and a credit has been applied to your unit# for the payment received on so and so date but instead you get nothing from them. If you ask me, it seems like their management is run by some uneducated people. They should have someone who responds to all buyers every month on progress and someone who updates thier website once a month along with the person who receives payments updating the person who sent the payment that their payment was received and credited to their account. Their is a long list of other things as well but I would run on forever without finishing. As for those planning lawsuits, I would forget about it in the UAE. Just wait for your unit to finish and Thank God that Mickey Mouse and his crew have finished their job after you receive your unit;)

A couple of years ago I bought 2 units in Saba Tower II. Over the years all employees have pretty muched vanished from Saba for some odd reason:weird: :weird: Those who sold you your units are no longer there. The person who sold me my unit told me that once I had reached 50% of the payment I will be eligible to apply for a loan and get the remaining 50% payed by loan. Turns out that here is no such loan thing available and no Bank will give you a loan until the building has finished and been handed over to the unit owners. Project was delayed many times with no reimbursement or anyone notifying you of delays unless one had personally picked up the phone and called themselves.:ohno: :ohno: Checking their website for updates is about as useless as can be. I have a website and it takes me less then 1 minute to upload a new picture onto my website. I imagine they have an Inidan Computer Engineer who is responsible for updating their website. For the last 8 months no updates arew done on their website to show investors of current progress. How FUC**** hard can it possible be to have someone update your website with new progress pictures for all the investors or unit owners who bought units in your project be??:bash: You have all these people who spent 700K Dhms. on up for each unit, is it too much to ask for in return that you keep your buyers or investors updated via website on your current construction progress. What is easier hire one expat to update the website once a month of current progress on answer 100's of calls on a daily basis of people asking you of current progress on the project??:bash: :bash: When I send them my payment that is due, no one replies back to me confirming receipt of payment unless I call them up to follow up on it. Simple courtesy would be having them sending you an email stating that they have received your recent payment and a credit has been applied to your unit# for the payment received on so and so date but instead you get nothing from them. If you ask me, it seems like their management is run by some uneducated people. They should have someone who responds to all buyers every month on progress and someone who updates thier website once a month along with the person who receives payments updating the person who sent the payment that their payment was received and credited to their account. Their is a long list of other things as well but I would run on forever without finishing. As for those planning lawsuits, I would forget about it in the UAE. Just wait for your unit to finish and Thank God that Mickey Mouse and his crew have finished their job after you receive your unit;)

You are so right about everything you are saying my friend.Lets just hope we get what we all paid for soon!!!Because ts not just the Saba towers but another 70 or so other buildings in Jumereira lakes Project so till the day that all are finished and have the whole area cleaned and fixed the garden and the lakes who knows how long its going to take.
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guys does anyone including saba have any clue how the interior of the tower is coming along? can someone maybe post some pictures, would also like to see some pictures of the penthouses if that is possible, so i can see a difference to the other units. secondly who knows when this tower will be complete? this year, next year or maybe 2010?? really p*** off at saba and the unprofessional staffing.

Hi,
The latest news that I got from Saba (Sunday 15th July) is that the superstructure of the tower is basically completed. The interior is expected to be finished by end of August. They are then going to start contacting us for hand over, which should be around end September to mid October. Lets wait and see! FINGERS CROSSED

Last I spoke with them they had told me by the middle of August but I guess that is out of the question now:ohno: I am still looking forward to the day they will hand over the units and their keys:) To those who own units there. What size units did you buy? Are you planning on renting them or selling them?

19/Aug/2007

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Thanks, Imre!

Imre, Thanks so much for that. You are THE MAN

Hi Guys,

I'm thinking of buying in Saba 2 (resale). I have a few questions :

Which is saba 2 and which is saba 3 - I'm guessing saba 2 is dubai side and saba 3 jebel ali side, please confirm.

Does anyone have a floor plan that shows apartment numbers? I want to look at Saba 2 1007, 810, 807, 607, 407, 311, 109 I don't know if they are lake side, szr side, on the sides facing dubai or jebel ali etc. All I have is the square footage.

Has anyone been in the building? Any feelings about when keys will actually be handed over? Any what do people value their apartments at currently?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Regards.

Matt

Matt....you have a PM

pm me

Hi Guys,

I'm thinking of buying in Saba 2 (resale). I have a few questions :

Which is saba 2 and which is saba 3 - I'm guessing saba 2 is dubai side and saba 3 jebel ali side, please confirm.

Does anyone have a floor plan that shows apartment numbers? I want to look at Saba 2 1007, 810, 807, 607, 407, 311, 109 I don't know if they are lake side, szr side, on the sides facing dubai or jebel ali etc. All I have is the square footage.

Has anyone been in the building? Any feelings about when keys will actually be handed over? Any what do people value their apartments at currently?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Regards.

Matt
Hi Matt,
If you pm me we can chat.

In an earlier phone call to Saba, they told me that handover was planned for October 07, so anytime soon in the next few weeks we can expect to see some official letter of handover:banana: i hope!!!

Don't get your hopes up yet Evo8, no DEWA connections been done yet in this area of JLT so you should add on min 2 months for testing etc. I know cos Goldcrest is testing the patience of us saints!

But Saba tower 1 has been handed over with temp water and electrical services, they may go the same route and have these temp services installed for tower 2 also.

On the Goldcrest Views thread there is talk of that particular tower being connected to services, it could be a false rumour but maybe they have been given temporary services like Saba Tower 1.

Goldcrest owners were told by letter that they were paying for DEWA approved 3rd party contractors to lay the cables to speed up getting power.

One of the senior management has stated this work is done. Haven't seen proof as yet but it could be viewed as more than a rumour.

^^ As I posted on the GC Views thread: there is no active electricity connection to the tower yet. Total darkness preveil...

^^ what i heard was...there cannot be electricity until the clusters are complete. the transformers were supposed to be for the clusters of buildings and not the individual buildings...

cant confirm it
saba built its own connection i think...

hi guys just heard from saba that anticipated handover will be december. check the mail i received below:
Dear Buyer

We would like to inform you that tower 2 is completed substantially and
we
are waiting for power connection from DEWA and road access from DMCC,
the
Master developer.

We are anticipating to have handover in the month of December 2007.

Regards


if they already tell us december, i think it will be around Q1 2008 or maybe later. anyone have any other news???

Dubai2010,

Thx alot for the update, i have not contacted Saba myself for some time now, last time out they told me it was October and now December, they just cant get it right can they!!

really don't know what to do. thinking of selling my flat and buy somwhere else, because this constant delaying is really putting me of.

^^ what i heard was...there cannot be electricity until the clusters are complete. the transformers were supposed to be for the clusters of buildings and not the individual buildings...

cant confirm it
saba built its own connection i think...

:lol:

have you thought the logistics of that one through?

You will find that JLT has a couple of sub-stations to provide power for the buildings. Each building would also have a back up generator to provide power in case of emergency. Dunno what your idea of the transfomers is for

^^ I don't know but I would not find it surprising at all, if there will be a transformer for each cluster of buildings, regardless if there are 2 sub-stations for the entire JLT.

guys does anyone know whats going on? really want to move in but saba does not theme to care:nuts:

^^ Well one thing to do is to find out whether Saba2 is getting its own utilities connection or is it waiting on DEWA to do it.

Goldcrest views 1 has been waiting on DEWA for the last 6 months and nothing had happened so now they have paid to get the job done themselves. Madina tower is doing the same. I dont know if any other tower is.

If Saba has not started doing this maybe it will take them longer than 1st quater 2008 for handover!!

^^ Saba tower 1 has been ready and handed over a long time ago, i have been in the tower and they have had their own temp power installed, so i think they will do the same for Tower 2.

18/October/2007


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Imre,

Do you know if this tower is on the verge of completion or even if it has been completed, internally and externally? any info would be much appreciated.

Thank you

hi guys, i wanted to ask whether anyone knows anything regarding handover. i am facing a huge problem with my landlord as my lease expires in december and saba are not telling us what is going on. if anyone has news please post it.

regards

dubai2010

p.s. what sqft prices did you guys buy at?

GREAT NEWS for you guys.

Tonight the lower half of the SABA 2 tower was fully illuminated inside. :cheers:

GREAT NEWS for you guys.

Tonight the lower half of the SABA 2 tower was fully illuminated inside. :cheers:

good news AltinD,

thanks for the info!!

GREAT NEWS for you guys.

Tonight the lower half of the SABA 2 tower was fully illuminated inside. :cheers:


Great News:banana: thank you for the info

Is it possible to request kindly for someone to take some pics and post on this thread for everyone to see?

Thank you once again

great news!! if they have DEWA possible handover could be dec07

The lights (only lower half) were ON tonight as well.

... I want to point out again that it might be a temporary solution rather then a permanent DEWA connection. Me, in no way can know that.

just wondering if anyone had a chance to take any pics of the tower during nightfall with the lights on?

Thank you in advance

Just spoke to a rep from Saba Estates, and i have some good news for all fellow investors in Saba tower 2.

The tower is complete internally and externally, they are currently in the process of completing the access road to the tower, which should take another 4 weeks according to the rep, so should be complete by end of November. Which means expected handover of the tower by mid December.

The rep has also confirmed that the tower has a permanent DEWA connection and the lighting has been tested on an ongoing basis for a few days.

This has been a long time coming, a delay of approx 2 years... so lets hope its worth the wait.

I saw last night also the top half of the tower had the lights ON.

I don't agree with 2 years delay theory. How could have been the tower completed by the end of 2005 when it was launched in mid 2004? Instead you should be lucky that it is one of the first towers completed in JLT, despite the unrealistic completition schedule that the developers might have given during the years (which we all know have to be taken with more then just a pinch of salt).

Altind,
i completely agree wth you with the fact that you cannot always go by the developers time frames, but as you can appreciate i was given an initial completion date of March 06 and was told that there would be compensation if this was not acheived, both of which have not materialised. Now we are almost approaching the handover process, by the time we have completed this and all the formalaties are out of the way it could well be March 08, hence my previous post stating approx 2 years.

02/November/2007

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Imre, thank you for the updated pics. If it is not too much of a problem for you could you please take some night shots of Tower 2 with the lights on.

Thank you in advance

^^

If you look closely you can see the balcony roof lights are on, not as impressive as interiors at night but it shows they are getting some power.

Excellent News!!!

Just spoken to a Saba rep this morning, they have informed me that there will be a Govt. Authorities Inspection on 15th of November 2007, once the building has been approved the authorities will issue a building completion certificate. Saba will then proceed to send official letters by early December to all investors inviting them to complete the handover process. Saba are also granting access to the building so you can go and view your apartments.

All furniture has been installed except for the electricals which will be installed in the next few weeks.

Will Saba 2 be the first residential tower to be completed and handed over in JLT??

it is possible, Saba 2 or Madina Tower,The Palladium , Goldcrest Views,Al Shera, MAG 214 ,Indigo Tower, we dont know which will be the first one...