Hub right on track, now for the Maglev
By Zhang Jun 2007-11-1
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IT'S all system go for Shanghai's new transport hub near Hongqiao International Airport, but an extended Maglev line remains the stumbling block, project officials said yesterday.

The hub, planned to the west of the airport, will include the terminal of the new Shanghai-Beijing high-speed rail link, at least two Metro stations and dozens of bus stops, they said.

However, the city government is still considering whether to extend the magnetic Maglev line from Longyang Road Station to the new transport hub or even further.

"The uncertainty of the Maglev extension might affect the construction of the entire transport hub," an official of the hub project, who asked for anonymity, said yesterday.

He said the two Metro stations, lines 2 and 10, will be built beneath the Shanghai-Beijing railway station for passenger transfer by 2010.

Eventually, there will be five Metro lines entering the hub.

As the Maglev plan is undecided, project managers are still considering whether to leave a vacant Maglev area near the railway station.

"It will be a demanding job for us to calculate the size and position of that vacancy," he said.

China has set up a leadership team to oversee the construction of the Shanghai-Beijing high-speed rail link which is expected to begin soon to ensure its operation for World Expo 2010 in Shanghai.

The new rail link, totalling 1,318 kilometers, will reduce the travel time between China's two major cities from 12 hours to under five as the new trains are expected to run up to 350 kilometers per hour.

More than 80 percent of the railway, which includes 21 stations, will be laid on elevated girders and equipped with special devices to reduce noise and minimize disruption to residents living near the line.


Pics from ECADI website


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http://www.ecadi.com/project/%BA%E7%C7%C5%D7%DB%BA%CF%BD%BB%CD%A8%CA%E0%C5%A6/7.jpg


please post construction pictures of the Construciton site her :)

I would like to see that mega project growing ;)!

I made a photoshopping showing the area that will be cleared ( or already is cleared ...;) ) for the hub

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1420/hthfw6.jpg


I hope for some google earht updates, showing the construciton site... it must be huge.

I wonder how many people had to be moved out...

http://www.ecadi.com/project/%BA%E7%C7%C5%D7%DB%BA%CF%BD%BB%CD%A8%CA%E0%C5%A6/7.jpg


From this rendering, remind me of Copenhagen's Airport.. :tongue2:

whoa thats some massive expansion, after the expansion it'll be 4 times its current size. This is good, cities like Shanghai and Beijing need at least 2 big ariports.

it's a very exciting project, a hub of all kinds of transportation methods -- flight, express rail, maglev, Bus, Taxi and subway.

I`ve found a video about the construction site.
It would be nice to see some recent aerials or construction pix btw....

Anybody here from Shanghai ;)

UxxPsAtas0s

I made a photoshopping showing the area that will be cleared ( or already is cleared ...;) ) for the hub

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1420/hthfw6.jpg


I hope for some google earht updates, showing the construciton site... it must be huge.

I wonder how many people had to be moved out...

Darn! Look at those houses. I wonder if they are going to give those people money or put them to another location.

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the parking apron

http://images13.51.com/14/a/33/6d/lnxx321/1192173473_0.41993700.jpg

the terminal site

http://images13.51.com/22/a/33/6d/lnxx321/1192173473_0.48346000.jpg

The road sign reads "Maglev North Rd."

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site of one of the metro stations

http://images13.51.com/21/b/33/6d/lnxx321/1193037446_0.59695400.jpg

project info

http://images13.51.com/21/a/33/6d/lnxx321/1193037416_0.80318600.jpg

One of the new roads

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Entrance to the site of new terminal

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huge site

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According to the above masterplan, i somehow don't think this one below is the final design of the new terminal...

http://www.ecadi.com/project/%BA%E7%C7%C5%D7%DB%BA%CF%BD%BB%CD%A8%CA%E0%C5%A6/6.jpg

I think this one is actually THE design, with the zigzag shape, different from the above parallel one. Am I wrong?

http://www.ecadi.com/project/%BA%E7%C7%C5%D7%DB%BA%CF%BD%BB%CD%A8%CA%E0%C5%A6/4.jpg

now thats what I call a construcition site :) :) :) great pics, thank you.


As it seems, you are right, they will go for the zig-zag one, when it comes to the terminal.

What will they do with the old apron and the old terminal btw, once, the new one is finished?

the old terminal and facilities will continue to run in the future as far as i know, otherwise the new terminal won't be big enough...

Wow. So Hongqiao in future will be like Sheremetyevo airport.. Cool..

Its amazing to see construction ACTUALLY starting... Nice.

Hmm its not common to see such a huge railway hub next to an airport.

When complete this railway complex will be the largest single railway station on Earth. :yes:

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in the background you can see the construction site

http://pic.carnoc.com/pic/20071128/20071128100309727.jpg

^^

That's more cranes at one construction site then I've seen anywhere else. :) Now THAT'S what I call a megaproject.

OMG! Holy Shit! That's a really, really huge construction site! :eek2: :eek: :uh: :shocked: :banana: :pepper: :applause: :bow: :cheers: :cheers2: :nuts: :runaway:

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great, do you know what these constructions pic show on the later project?
Is the apron, the railway station, the terminal?
Its hard not to get confused with such a big construction site...

great, do you know what these constructions pic show on the later project?
Is the apron, the railway station, the terminal?
Its hard not to get confused with such a big construction site...

sorry, i'm not the photograhper, can't tell which is which in these pics myself! :ohno: but it seems they are moving fast, aren't they?

That's some fast progress, it seems like some parts of the apron are already completed.

Are there going to be new runways added to the airport?

they are going to add one additional runway, so that the airport has 2.

The construction speed is amazing, a project like that would take 7-10 years in Europe. In China they make it in 3 years. (to be finished in 2010 )

I guess they are working 24/7.

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I linked these pics in from another ssc thread:


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source http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=401827&page=19

Ooh man... I wish Sydney Kingsford Smith had an airport like this... :ohno:

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they are going to add one additional runway, so that the airport has 2.

The construction speed is amazing, a project like that would take 7-10 years in Europe. In China they make it in 3 years. (to be finished in 2010 )

I guess they are working 24/7.

seriously, chinese project managers and workers like to work for months without taking a rest, and take a long vacation after the end of the projects.

seriously, chinese project managers and workers like to work for months without taking a rest, and take a long vacation after the end of the projects.

well, it's probably not a matter of 'like' or 'dislike,' it's just how the business is run here, with high pressure of deadlines. they are forced to take it or just leave it...

Hongqiao in shanghai??

http://www.201100.cn/attachment/180_1200_c5c468dbb4d6cb6.jpg

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^^ Something tells me this thing's gonna be the largest railway station on the planet.

great rendering! Anybody know if there's a people mover system connecting the airport to the railway station? It's quite some distance and hard to walk through.

thanks a lot for the new renderings. The interior really looks quite nice.

But the exterior?

Let me ask the Chinsese members of this forum: Do you think this looks good?

http://www.201100.cn/attachment/180_1200_c5c468dbb4d6cb6.jpg

I have seen so many good architcture in China rising over the last years, but this Traffic Hub somehow looks worse on every published rendering. Or is it just me, who thinks so?

The technological and infrastructural apsect is mind blowing, of course, and I wish we had stations and airports like that in Europe.

thanks a lot for the new renderings. The interior really looks quite nice.

But the exterior?

Let me ask the Chinsese members of this forum: Do you think this looks good?

http://www.201100.cn/attachment/180_1200_c5c468dbb4d6cb6.jpg

I have seen so many good architcture in China rising over the last years, but this Traffic Hub somehow looks worse on every published rendering. Or is it just me, who thinks so?

The technological and infrastructural apsect is mind blowing, of course, and I wish we had stations and airports like that in Europe.

personally, i like this design, and many chinese members agree with me!

it's not a bad design, although it's not a bold and 'special' one anyway. But we are somehow tired of those 'creative and daring' project proposed by the western firms. Maybe it's time for a change!

i'm glad it's a 'low-profile' and function-oriented design, and hope they'll put more emphases on the interior!

moreover, given the deadline of 2010, this design probably is the most acceptable and efficient one so far...

I realize in terms of architecture, Shanghai is more moderate, form and function are more or less at a balance although it means that there are few architectural marvels.

Beijing on the other hand, has been the more daring one. Regardless of Asian or Western architects, the buildings are "louder" than Shanghai.

Actually, Shanghai is very loud in this one. You guys probabley see this as the 1970s modernist architecture, but if you look closely, it is internationalism.

INTERNATIONALISM should NOT be used in VERY LARGE BUILDINGS with multiple levels. Because IT MAKES THEM THEM LOOK SHORT AND CLUSTERPHOBIC.

what don't they get about this.

I like this design actually, its very un Chinese.

^^ The design seems so retro-70-ish. :D Well, sorta...except for those slanting walls.

I like this design actually, its very un Chinese.

Agreed! I'd say it looks very American. The design is very functional, modern, and aesthetically pleasing.

from skyscrapers.cn

Entering the site
http://lh5.google.com/KiD.C.XIANG/R6wsAqKKzUI/AAAAAAAADdg/AG4Krdi16t0/s800/DSC08689%20%E6%8B%B7%E8%B4%9D.jpg

Maglev and subway station site
http://lh3.google.com/KiD.C.XIANG/R6wsoKKKzdI/AAAAAAAADes/pgmDHbG2V5Y/s800/DSC08716%20%E6%8B%B7%E8%B4%9D.jpg

http://lh6.google.com/KiD.C.XIANG/R6wsx6KKzfI/AAAAAAAADe8/UN7PYnYDEP0/s800/DSC08718%20%E6%8B%B7%E8%B4%9D.jpg

Beijing-Shanghai high speed rail
http://lh6.google.com/KiD.C.XIANG/R6wsN6KKzXI/AAAAAAAADd4/mVBqynmogf0/s800/DSC08696%20%E6%8B%B7%E8%B4%9D.jpg

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The ocean of cranes
http://lh4.google.com/KiD.C.XIANG/R6wtPaKKzmI/AAAAAAAADf4/DTbMQ2FnQVA/s800/DSC08736%20%E6%8B%B7%E8%B4%9D.jpg

Subway west station site
http://lh4.google.com/KiD.C.XIANG/R6ws0aKKzgI/AAAAAAAADfE/XKHQjn9zxbg/s800/DSC08720%20%E6%8B%B7%E8%B4%9D.jpg

the whole hub
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Airport terminal site
http://lh4.google.com/KiD.C.XIANG/R6wtTaKKznI/AAAAAAAADgA/ZACzIZeDIB0/s800/DSC08737%20%E6%8B%B7%E8%B4%9D.jpg

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The old Hongqiao terminal
http://lh6.google.com/KiD.C.XIANG/R6w5z6KKzvI/AAAAAAAADiY/12n_MIKF3vY/s800/DSC08758%20%E6%8B%B7%E8%B4%9D.jpg

Surrounding area, this area will be hot after the project is done in 2010
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^^ That is a HUGE construction site!

I think they should add more runways to Shanghai-Hongqiao International Airport, though. I mean, that's Shanghai's main domestic airport. Since Chinese carriers use small aircraft for their domestic routes, the need for more runways (than just two) is truly necessary.

^^ Unfortunately Hongqiao Airport is located close to the town and only has space for two runways. After the new terminal and 2nd runway are built, it'll be able to handle 40 million passengers, which is a big number for a 2nd airport. (last year Hongqiao Airport handled 22.6 million passengers)

^^ Unfortunately Hongqiao Airport is located close to the town and only has space for two runways. After the new terminal and 2nd runway are built, it'll be able to handle 40 million passengers, which is a big number for a 2nd airport. (last year Hongqiao Airport handled 22.6 million passengers)

So that means the entire Shanghai municipality would have a total airport capacity of 140 million passengers by 2015? That would be insane!

Actually, Shanghai's 2 airports handling 140m pax per year is abit disappointing to me. London's airports handle much more, and Shanghai is the financial heart of the world's largest country in terms of population.

Actually, Shanghai's 2 airports handling 140m pax per year is abit disappointing to me. London's airports handle much more, and Shanghai is the financial heart of the world's largest country in terms of population.

Largest reason being that most people in China do travel either by rail or highway coaches. Air travel is still considered very expensive by most regional travellers, and the rail and expressway networks in China are very effecient.

^^ But, China's aviation market, the world's second largest, is still expanding...and at a dizzying rate at that. In twelve years time, it is set to overtake the U.S. to become the largest. China needs to build lots of airports (some of them should have lots of runways and huge terminals), expand existing aircraft-handling facilities and loosen airspace restriction to civil air traffic.

Actually, Shanghai's 2 airports handling 140m pax per year is abit disappointing to me. London's airports handle much more, and Shanghai is the financial heart of the world's largest country in terms of population.

Not really. London's six airports handle 150 million passengers each year while Shanghai will have 140 million. That's not that big of a difference. Shanghai will have 40 million more passengers per year than all three of NYC's airports.

^^ 150 million pax for London?! Last time I checked, it was closer to 140 million pax.

And, I highly doubt Shanghai-Pudong International Airport's final capacity would only be 100 million pax. With five runways and three main air passenger terminals, Shanghai-Pudong International Airport could well have a full capacity of 120 million pax. Seriously. China's notorious for underestimating the fully-operational capacities of its airports.

^^ its right what you write about pudong airport.

But somehow it doenst make sense, to have an airport like pudong with 5 runways or maybe even more in the future handling 100-120 mio passengers, and then this relatively "small" airport handling 40 mio wihtout the possibility to further expand in Hongqiao.

That just creates a huge chaos for transfer passengers, doesnt it?

If Hongqiao would be an equal second airport for the Shanghai metropolitan area, just like a second airport for Bejing is planned right now, it would make more sense.

^^ 150 million pax for London?! Last time I checked, it was closer to 140 million pax.

And, I highly doubt Shanghai-Pudong International Airport's final capacity would only be 100 million pax. With five runways and three main air passenger terminals, Shanghai-Pudong International Airport could well have a full capacity of 120 million pax. Seriously. China's notorious for underestimating the fully-operational capacities of its airports.

I got the 150 million figure from wikipedia's London Transportation page so take up any complaints you have with wikipedia. I got the 100 million figure from the Pudong Airport construction page, which got its information from the construction site. The bottom line is, Shanghai expects its two airports to be able to handle 140 million by 2015. Who knows what the real figure will be when this is all done. I am just responding to someone who said he was disappointed that Shanghai can only handle 140 million. 140 million is HUGE. Pudong Airport will have by far the highest capacity in the world. And it will have five terminals because both of T3's satellite terminals look about the size of one of JFK's main terminal.

"Someone" was disappointed because London's airports handle more passengers. And this place, Shanghai is supposed to be the heart of the world's most populated country.

This project is really something. The board says under one roof they'll construct,


West airport terminal (40 mln pax with existing one)
East transportation square
Maglev station (10 lines and 10 platforms)
High-speed railway station (30 lines and 16 platforms)
West transportation square
Subway stations (line #2, #5, #10, #17 and line Qingpu)
East and west bus exchange


All will be finished in 2 years and 8 months :nuts:


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Shanghai doesn't handle as many passengers as London because most people flying into London are tourists or business travelers. London is a bigger tourist destination and a bigger city (in terms of financial importance) so therefore receives more people flying in.

China's aviation market is only starting to realize. Flying is expensive for most of China's population. It will however increase in time as China becomes richer...

You're comparing two airport passenger statistics without looking deeper into the context. Things will change but it does require time.

Besides, 140 million and 150 million are not THAT FAR apart. Considering how London has SIX airports and Shanghai only has TWO...

Shanghai doesn't handle as many passengers as London because most people flying into London are tourists or business travelers. London is a bigger tourist destination and a bigger city (in terms of financial importance) so therefore receives more people flying in.

China's aviation market is only starting to realize. Flying is expensive for most of China's population. It will however increase in time as China becomes richer...

You're comparing two airport passenger statistics without looking deeper into the context. Things will change but it does require time.

Besides, 140 million and 150 million are not THAT FAR apart. Considering how London has SIX airports and Shanghai only has TWO...

Let's take a step back and acknowledge that the 140 million figure is for 2015 at the earliest. Right now, both airports have a combined 40 million capacity.

Still, 140 million seven years later is nothing to be ashamed of. Pudong Airport will have a capacity of 100 million, which is the same as all three of NYC's airports combined.

http://pic.feeyo.com/pic/20080303/200803030608198757.jpg

Actually, I am surprised about that huge residential area, that was constructed on the upper right corner of the pic.
Is that for the resettled residents?

http://pic.feeyo.com/pic/20080303/200803030608198757.jpg

Actually, I am surprised about that huge residential area, that was constructed on the upper right corner of the pic.
Is that for the resettled residents?

i'm afraid those are some old local residential areas near the Hongqiao airport, coz that's to the east of the existing terminal/runway. The new area for the relocated residents is supposed to be to the west of the site of the new terminal!

The airport is so close to the city, and the area around it has been highly urbanized with high density of residents over the decades.

Thanks for the information werico.
Too sad, that we dont see the site of the terminal and the railway station on the pic.

Am I right in my assumption, that these are already the basements of the new terminal piers, that we can see at the left of the pic?

omg! that's a forest of cranes.

cool project.

Thanks for the information werico.
Too sad, that we dont see the site of the terminal and the railway station on the pic.

Am I right in my assumption, that these are already the basements of the new terminal piers, that we can see at the left of the pic?

yeah, guess so

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Holy Carp! I've never seen a project so huge! Neat.

Something like that would never fly in the U.S. though.

I got the 150 million figure from wikipedia's London Transportation page so take up any complaints you have with wikipedia. I got the 100 million figure from the Pudong Airport construction page, which got its information from the construction site. The bottom line is, Shanghai expects its two airports to be able to handle 140 million by 2015. Who knows what the real figure will be when this is all done. I am just responding to someone who said he was disappointed that Shanghai can only handle 140 million. 140 million is HUGE. Pudong Airport will have by far the highest capacity in the world. And it will have five terminals because both of T3's satellite terminals look about the size of one of JFK's main terminal.Right now London's airports handle a combined total of 140 million which is the most in the world by a long margin. Of course London continues to grow and will expand considerably with the huge new terminals and new runways in the pipeline. However it's nonetheless very ambitious for Shanghai, whose current total is so much lower, to plan to match this total by 2015 (or even to have the capacity to match that which is what they actually intend). I find this project very impressive overall. The architecture is simple and clean. Perhaps Shanghai's city planners follow SSC/SSP and are sensitive to all the justified criticism of the tacky "spaceage" designs of '90s Shanghai and have now decided to build more classy, elegant, and understated buildings? I hope so. It shows that Shanghai's tastes are maturing and becoming more sophisticated. :)

The construction speed is super super fast.

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Wow, the new terminal is taking shape overnight!

Edit: Anybody know if there are going to build a connection with the existing terminal, or just tear down the existing one?

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Wow this project is super fast.

Shanghai Hongqiao Airport's $2 Billion Expansion Wins Approval

Updated: 2008-04-30 Source:Bloomberg

Shanghai Hongqiao Airport, China's fourth-busiest airfield, won government approval for a 13.9 billion yuan ($2 billion) expansion plan aiming to double its annual capacity by 2015.

The city's domestic airport plans to add a second runway and terminal, which will boost capacity to 40 million passengers and 1 million tons of cargo annually by 2015, according to a statement on the General Administration of Civil Aviation's Web site. The plan has been approved by the National Development and Reform Commission, China's top planning agency.

Shanghai, the nation's financial center, aims to surpass Beijing as China's biggest air travel destination as it wins investment from overseas companies including Citigroup Inc. and DHL Express. The country's overall passenger traffic will likely grow 14.5 percent a year until 2010, according to the nation's aviation regulator.

Shanghai's two airports will likely handle 120 million passengers and 7 million tons of cargo in 2015. Beijing Capital International Airport will expand capacity to 76 million passengers a year by 2015, according to the planning agency.

Shanghai Pudong International Airport added a second terminal last month, more than doubling the airport's capacity to 60 million passengers a year. It will be able to handle 80 million travelers annually by 2015 with the addition of two smaller satellite terminals.

Hongqiao airport handled 22.6 million travelers last year, mainly on domestic routes. About 28.95 million passengers passed through Pudong. Beijing Capital International Airport handled 53 million passengers.


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How many platfroms, does anybody know?

OMG! It's so fucking huge! :uh: And, the number of T-cranes is just crazy. :nuts: :lol:

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2008/200806/20080628/article_364895.htm
Airport to be key to transport hub

By Dong Zhen | 2008-6-28 | NEWSPAPER EDITION

HONGQIAO Airport's new West Terminal will be completed by September next year, as a part a project to set up a multi-function transport hub in the area, according to the project constructor.

The multi-function transport project has started with the construction of an express train station. When completed by 2010, the transport hub will offer transfers between inter-city and express trains, the Metro, long-distance buses and urban bus services.

That will enable travelers to take a train from Beijing directly to Hongqiao Airport, which will be within an hour's Metro ride from Shanghai's business areas such as Xujiahui, People's Square and Lujiazui in Pudong.

The hub will be a highly efficient multi-transport network, said the project supervisors.

Hongqiao's new transport hub is expected to become a new urban center and cater to nearly 650,000 passengers a day, with maximum turnover of 1.1 million people.

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So we have any new pics of this one?

OMFG! This project...lets me wordsless! :eek:

Such amazing project!! :banana:

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Thanks for the great update. Massive structure. Is the fate of Maglev line determined?

^^100% confirmed yes.

10.10.2008

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that's really fast. thanks General_huo.

^^100% confirmed yes.

Do you mean 100% "yes, they decided and will build it "or 100% "Yes they decided, but I dont know the result of the decision"?

If yes, they already should be building it, right?

Do you mean 100% "yes, they decided and will build it "or 100% "Yes they decided, but I dont know the result of the decision"?

If yes, they already should be building it, right?

they r building it, dont u see the photos with pillars laying out, those are the one for maglev

that's good news.

Do you mean 100% "yes, they decided and will build it "or 100% "Yes they decided, but I dont know the result of the decision"?

If yes, they already should be building it, right?

Yes, they are building it right now. The debate is whether to have maglev to Hangzhou (maglev from Pudong to Hongqiao is u/c), they say they'll build it by 2014 but it hasn't started, so we're not sure yet.

why are the pictures so small, all of a sudden?

still one of the greatest projects of all btw....

Any update for this thread? :)

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^^ Feb 1 2009, pictures taken during Chinese New year break, metrofans.sh.cn

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Thanks big-dog for the updates!:cheers:

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Thanks big-dog for the updates!:cheers:

Did you really have to quote every single photo when they were all posted above? :bash::bash::bash:

project looks impressive :applause:

Wow the speed is just amazing! Is the old Hongqiao demolished or somewhere nearby?

Nice...this project is coming along great! Grt updates everyone!

:)

Thanks big-dog for the updates!:cheers:

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Wow the speed is just amazing! Is the old Hongqiao demolished or somewhere nearby?

Its somewhere nearby, you can see in the background of big-dog's latest update that its just behind the old asphalt runway.

Wow the speed is just amazing! Is the old Hongqiao demolished or somewhere nearby?

According to some Shanghai forumers, the old terminal will be used for helicopter boarding, VIP/private boarding, freight terminal. It won't be demolished.

they r building it, dont u see the photos with pillars laying out, those are the one for maglev

I don't think maglev will be ready by 2010, or even 2012.

Shanghai Pudong, Hongqiao airports uniting by subway before May 2010


http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/Shanghaiist_Xiaoxia/line%20two.jpg
File this under the2010 World Expo actually making our lives marginally more convenient, huzzah!

Shanghai's Hongqiao and Pudong airports are pretty darned far from each other - what with SHA located a good 13km East from downtown Puxi and PVG set squarely at the very Western tip of Pudong. Getting from one airport to the other usually involves a blend of taxis and buses (sometimes combined with metros and the Maglev) through often traffic jam-ridden highways.

But thankfully for those of us who prefer the more predictable human jams of the subway, News 163 has reported that Metro Line 2 will be extended both Westward to Hongqiao and Eastward to the Pudong Airport by May 1, 2010, just in time for the World Expo.

Sure it doesn't sound as convenient as the proposed extension of the Shanghai maglev line between the two air traffic hubs, but it's less likely to draw the amount of protests that derailed that very project...

...assuming the project has been derailed. Hmmm.

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Beijing-Shanghai express rail station (Hongqiao station) break ground

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Wow... that's really big.

Yeah, decent size there..

Wow! This would undoubtedly become the single largest rail-based construct ever! :eek: :bow: :uh:

Wow how many platforms will this Hongqiao station have? Is it bigger than Shanghai South Railway station?

Wow! This would undoubtedly become the single largest rail-based construct ever! :eek: :bow: :uh:

I doubt it. Even in China there's larger rail-related construction efforts.

Eitherway, nice airport.

Wow how many platforms will this Hongqiao station have? Is it bigger than Shanghai South Railway station?

it'll be a decent size, but probably won't be the largest. Afterall it's a highspeed passanger only terminal.

It look so big because it includes an airport and public transit terminal as well.


What's the status of the maglev on this? I think shanghai really need the maglev to connect the two airports. I'll be useful.

Where shall Nanjing-Shanghai high-speed railway go in Shanghai?

^^
Shanghai West Railway Station would be a good guess.

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It's huge!

YAY updates! Whats the completion date? Any interior shots?

latest....the terminal is almost done :banana:

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The construction speed of this project is just amazing. The design is quite unique for a Chinese airport as most don't look like that. Design reminds me of airports in Europe or Japan. Can't wait to see the inside.

The construction speed of this project is just amazing. The design is quite unique for a Chinese airport as most don't look like that. Design reminds me of airports in Europe or Japan. Can't wait to see the inside.

I agree and this is a cutting edge 21st Century project.

:cheers:

wow this project is huge

It seems that this project will save the Shanghai Municipality government a lot of money, cz it looks not as luxury as the Beijing Capital international airport's terminal 3.
Dose anybody know who design this complex? guess it was design by the Local Xiandai Architectural Design Group, wasn't it?:cheers:

latest news clip on the completion of the structural construction of Hongqiao Hub (meglav station included!)

http://imedia.eastday.com/node2/node612/node623/node630/userobject8i276145.html

It seems that this project will save the Shanghai Municipality government a lot of money, cz it looks not as luxury as the Beijing Capital international airport's terminal 3.
Dose anybody know who design this complex? guess it was design by the Local Xiandai Architectural Design Group, wasn't it?:cheers:

I have a feeling this airport interior would be better than that of Beijing T3. Pudong terminal two in my opinion interior wise is much more pleasing and elegant than Beijing's.

Not having been to the new terminal at PEK, I have to say that the new terminal at Pudong is very, very nice. I much prefer it to those of SIN and HKG for example. It is very underrated, but it could use some better retail options.

Not having been to the new terminal at PEK, I have to say that the new terminal at Pudong is very, very nice. I much prefer it to those of SIN and HKG for example. It is very underrated, but it could use some better retail options.

Some people like the carpeting used in the boarding area in Pudong T2.

I just saw a report on tv that this project is being finished at lightning speed. Construction takes place 24/7 including any and all holidays with over 20,000 workers. Amazing....

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Are they going to close the old Hongqiao airport when this one opens?

Are they going to close the old Hongqiao airport when this one opens?

It is not a new airport, it is Hongqiao Airport that is being renovated and expanded.

^^ The question is whether the existing Hongqiao airport terminal will be closed when the new terminal opens.

^^ The question is whether the existing Hongqiao airport terminal will be closed when the new terminal opens.

No! The old terminal will be renovated, and used for mainly int'l airlines for Japan and South Korea, with the existing immigration check facilities there...

The new terminal is also deisigned and will be able to serve int'l airlines when necessary...

BTW, Shanghai Airport group has setup a JV with Hong Kong Airport authority to operate the Hongqiao Airport in the next 20 years!

Shanghai, HK set up JV to manage Hongqiao Airport
Published: 12 Oct 2009 22:19:04 PST

Oct. 13, 2009 (China Knowledge) - Airport authorities in Shanghai and Hong Kong signed a cooperation agreement on Monday to establish a joint venture to manage Hongqiao International Airport, sources reported.

Shanghai Airport Authority has agreed to invest RMB 51 million for a 51% stake in the JV, while Airport Authority Hong Kong will hold the remaining 49% for RMB 49 million.

The Shanghai Hong Kong Airport Management Co, which will operate for 20 years from next year, is expected to help operate the east and west terminals of Hongqiao Airport, the east traffic control centre of Hongqiao's integrated transport centre and manage passenger-related issues.

The new western terminal is set to be completed next year and will have links to the new transport hub in the Hongqiao area. Upon the completion of the expansion project, Shanghai will have four air terminals and five runways for a combined capacity of 90 million passenger trips and 5.2 million tons of cargo.

In 2008, Hongqiao airport handled 22.9 million passengers, making it the fourth busiest airport in the country.

Putong International Airport is the other airport in the city.

Are there any updates on the new Hongqiao Terminal (subway, railway, airport). I'm suprised that a project this massive has so little coverage, is it because of the location?

Are there any updates on the new Hongqiao Terminal (subway, railway, airport). I'm suprised that a project this massive has so little coverage, is it because of the location?

Testing of the lighting system of the new terminal

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The road to Beijing

By Pei Xin | 2009-10-23 | NEWSPAPER EDITION


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A crane yesterday hoists a steel structure that will be installed as part of the elevated road for the Shanghai-Beijing high-speed railway's Hongqiao station. Construction is progressing smoothly on the Hongqiao Integrated Transport Hub, which will be mostly open before 2010 World Expo.

Read more: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2009/200910/20091023/article_417225.htm#ixzz0UjcC1xmv
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Interior decorations on time at airport

By Jessie Dong | 2009-10-30 | NEWSPAPER EDITION

MAIN interior decorations for Shanghai Hongqiao International Airport's new major terminal building were completed yesterday, right in time for its scheduled opening in March, said its operator.

Shanghai Airport Authority said light gray has been used as the main color to decorate the inside of the new western terminal.

The neutral color is intended to make guidance and instructional signs more prominent, explained airport official Su Weiwei.

She said areas for different functions, such as check-in, and places near escalators were given different patterns and colored floor pavings to make it easier for travelers to find their way.

The four-level building has a 270-meter main hall and a 1,740-meter long boarding zone.

Passengers will only have to follow a straight route for check-in and boarding.

They'll have a shorter walk, compared to the current terminal building, according to the airport manager.

Seats and security systems are now being installed, and test running of the whole building should start in December.

The western terminal is to become the main passenger building for Hongqiao airport when it opens in March next year.

Hongqiao airport serves as the city's main domestic-flight terminal, with the Pudong International Airport handling mostly international trips.

A new, second runway is to go into operation the same time as the new terminal building, airport officials said.

Read more: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2009/200910/20091030/article_417939.htm#ixzz0VOhlciy8

new terminal interiors completed

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Thanks for the update. The new terminal is much much better than the old Hongqiao terminals.

Looks like the sign on the left is pointing towards the Maglev, doesn't it?

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Looks like the sign on the left is pointing towards the Maglev, doesn't it?


yeah, it does! but only the station, the meglav line won't be ready...

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Really nice!!! a more down to earth taste when compared to other airports in China. (ie. Beijing's Terminal 3).

yeah, it does! but only the station, the meglav line won't be ready...

I thought the line was cancelled?

Never mind...do you have pictures of the maglev station?
(even if its not connected to the existing line....

Did the already install a guidway in the inside

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^ Now thats unlike any Chinese airports I've ever seen. The signage and the color, plus style is very Japanese like.(Not a bad thing). Chinese are finally learning less is more and a more simplistic approach to airport interiors is so much better.

Yes i agree, the old signs, from my memory are blue and white, looks ugly and artificial. And read my post in shanghai construction thread you lazies :p

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I thought the line was cancelled?

Never mind...do you have pictures of the maglev station?
(even if its not connected to the existing line....

Did the already install a guidway in the inside

The maglev project was just suspended, but it has always remained on the gov.'s agenda to extend the existing line to Hongqiao Hub...it'll just probably go underground to avoid residents along the line...

No pics of the station yet, but its existence has already been officially confirmed, as you can see its sign is already put up there in that pic!

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I guess the project is back on track again-- I just wonder where the line will go and how far they've come in the process.

there is another master plan for Hongqiao transportation hub

the aqua colored box is the shanghai-beijing railway, the yellow colored box is the maglev (the airport line and shanghai-hangzhou line WOW), the red boxes on the left and right hand bottom are the future expansion of the Hongqiao airport.

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here it is, there are two maglev lines according to this map

Update: The new West Terminal of Hongqiao Int'l Airport has been completed! It'll be open for operation on March 16, 2010!

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It is looking great!

WOW. I really love the interiors.

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The orange sign means "Maglev", blue sign is "Train" ... the Maglev-station will be build definetly. .. shanghai, i´ll be back :banana:

It looks great! :applause:

Looks much nicer than Pudong.

Pudong T2 looks quite nice though!

From the pics, thats just the airport area, from the diagram we can see the train area is much bigger, can't wait to see that. This complex overall is huge.

Am working on Hong Qiao project installing the baggage handling system.
Most impressive building, and quite beautiful.
Excellent use of natural light into this behemoth of a building, with a nod to ocean liner architecture in GTC/Shopping mall.
Colour of Eucalyptus is inspired.
Great project to be involved in. There are 3 of us laowi on site and about 15K Chinese workers.
BIG job!
The building is in three sections, West terminal which is the main plane bit, GTC or General Traffic Centre, housing two subway lines and stations, in theory Maglev (although I believe the extension has been throttled by NIMBY"S so far) and the high speed railway terminal.
The whole thing is about 800m long (as big as the biggest building in Dubai, just on its side!)
The rail terminal is all structural steel, some 80K tonnes. Biggest single lift of a 100 tonne truss.
64 Ha of asphalt is on the elevated road system.
The elevated road that was going to impact on the construction was built of steel not needing formwork, thus huge scaffold to hold it up.
Expensive!

Am working on Hong Qiao project installing the baggage handling system.
Most impressive building, and quite beautiful.
Excellent use of natural light into this behemoth of a building, with a nod to ocean liner architecture in GTC/Shopping mall.
Colour of Eucalyptus is inspired.
Great project to be involved in. There are 3 of us laowi on site and about 15K Chinese workers.
BIG job!
The building is in three sections, West terminal which is the main plane bit, GTC or General Traffic Centre, housing two subway lines and stations, in theory Maglev (although I believe the extension has been throttled by NIMBY"S so far) and the high speed railway terminal.
The whole thing is about 800m long (as big as the biggest building in Dubai, just on its side!)
The rail terminal is all structural steel, some 80K tonnes. Biggest single lift of a 100 tonne truss.
64 Ha of asphalt is on the elevated road system.
The elevated road that was going to impact on the construction was built of steel not needing formwork, thus huge scaffold to hold it up.
Expensive!

bravo！:banana: you should take some pics!!!

btw, do you know why they put up the sign of maglev at the T2 already, even if the extention line to Hongqiao is not built yet???

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Oooooooooooo nice update.

Im glad they use this type of flooring material for Hongqiao Hub than the other marble the Chinese seem to always use like the ones in Shanghai South railway or Beijing railway those have huge ugly waterspots.

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I love the concept RAIL+AIRPORT!

^^ AGREED. :yes:

They should've done the same for Beijing-Capital and Guangzhou-Baiyun (Old).

On Google Earth, there's a rough-in platform to permit mainline trains to enter T3 at BCIA, and I've seen long-term plans to connect BCIA with the Beijing-Shenyang HSR line.

I love the concept RAIL+AIRPORT!

I doubt any airport before has had so many rail connections. Maybe Paris CDG or Heathrow hold the record at the moment. Frankfurt, Munich and Amsterdam are all very well connected to.

Amsterdam Schipol seems to be at the centre of the Low Countries' rail network.

Do we have new pix of this awesome project?

I doubt any airport before has had so many rail connections. Maybe Paris CDG or Heathrow hold the record at the moment. Frankfurt, Munich and Amsterdam are all very well connected to.

Amsterdam Schipol seems to be at the centre of the Low Countries' rail network.

frankfurt was the first airport in the world with a rail connection (since 1972). today it has 2 railway stations (including one high speed railway station (for ICE trains), 3 commuter train lines and an automatic people mover), a third station is coming with the new terminal 3. not even cdg or lhr have that.

fra doesn't have a maglev though - but then again, only one airport in the world has a maglev ...

fra doesn't have a maglev though - but then again, only one airport in the world has a maglev ...

One have Maglev already and Honggiao is getting it:
Shanghai Pudong International Airport :D

The Maglev will connect them. hopefully :soon:

frankfurt was the first airport in the world with a rail connection (since 1972). today it has 2 railway stations (including one high speed railway station (for ICE trains), 3 commuter train lines and an automatic people mover), a third station is coming with the new terminal 3. not even cdg or lhr have that.

fra doesn't have a maglev though - but then again, only one airport in the world has a maglev ...

I never knew Fraport was the first to have a railway station. Thanks for the info.

Basically what I was getting at in my post above is that the 'Airport+Railway' concept I quoted someone saying wasn't really a new thing and hadn't been invented in Shanghai. There's plenty of airports with an enormous amount of rail connections.

^^
He was probably referring to the fact that the Hongqiao Hub will be "as much" a railway station (and a local transit hub) as it is an airport-- it is not an airport with a rail connection.

It would be the equivalent of building an airport on top of Frankfurt Hbf. ;)

The new terminal (T2) of Hongqiao Int'l Airport will be officially open on March 16, 2010!:banana:

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Maglev extension given green light
By Zha Minjie | 2010-3-14 | Shanghai Daily

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THE extension plan for Shanghai's magnetic levitation train, the Maglev, is back on track.

The Ministry of Railways chief planner, Zheng Jian, said yesterday China had agreed to build a Maglev line between Shanghai and Hangzhou, capital city of Zhejiang Province.

The project is under careful consideration, Zheng said during a press conference on high-speed railway construction and development in China on the sidelines of the Third Session of the 11th National People's Congress in Beijing.

The line will start construction this year, Xinhua news agency reported.

It is also the only Maglev line in the medium and long-term plan, Zheng said.

First approved by the State Council four years ago in 2006, the extension was suspended in 2007 because residents along the line were worried that it would emit radiation and cause sickness.

An assessment released by environmental authorities, however, showed the extended project was safe.

Prior to the suspension, the Shanghai-Hangzhou Maglev line was expected to be in operation before the World Expo 2010 in Shanghai.

The top speed of the Maglev railway will be 450 kilometers per hour, but it will be limited to 200 kilometers per hour in the city's downtown areas.

Experts said it would take about half an hour to travel from Shanghai to Hangzhou, a trip which usually takes one and an half hours on the current service.

The new link will be 199.5 kilometers, about 24 kilometers longer than that included in the 2006 plan, said Xinhua. The line will also contain a downtown section of about 34 kilometers which is expected to connect the city's two international airports, Pudong and Hongqiao.

With a total cost of 22 billion yuan (US$3.22 billion), the new Maglev is expected to further beef up links between Shanghai and Hangzhou and boost cooperation among areas in the Yangtze River Delta.

It will set up two stops, Jiaxing and Hangzhou, within the section in Zhejiang Province.

Launched in 2003, Shanghai has the country's only Maglev route which is 31 kilometers long, between Metro Line 2's Longyang Road Station and Pudong airport. The single ticket price for the route is 50 yuan.

^^ How many times has that maglev line been "approved" only to be suspended?

Why should they build the maglev line when they have just invested 4.4 billion dollars into a conventional high-speed railway line between Shanghai/Hongqiao and Hangzhou? The new conventional line will
start commercial operation before the Expo and will only take 38 minutes with a top speed of 350 km/h.

I don't believe any maglev plans - they will not build a parallel project terminating at the same station (Hongqiao) that takes a similar traveling time.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/m/hangzhou/e/2010-01/25/content_9370116.htm

Why should they build the maglev line when they have just invested 4.4 billion dollars into a conventional high-speed railway line between Shanghai/Hongqiao and Hangzhou? The new conventional line will
start commercial operation before the Expo and will only take 38 minutes with a top speed of 350 km/h.

I don't believe any maglev plans - they will not build a parallel project terminating at the same station (Hongqiao) that takes a similar traveling time.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/m/hangzhou/e/2010-01/25/content_9370116.htm

Because:
1. they have to bail out the existing experimental maglev line in Pudong, which is in financial deficit for years, by extending it to Hongqiao airport and Hangzhou to attract more passengers.
2. they believe there have to be more lines between Shanghai and Hangzhou, with the future economic development in this area.
3. Given the fact that Pudong Airport is far from Hongqiao Airport in Puxi, maglev is a good way to connect the both airports efficiently, in order to build Shanghai into an international aviation hub.

What a huge facility. Seems like the materials are pretty good, the only thing i dont like about this airport are those red words on top of the airport. UGH! Why cant they just make it smaller and use black color and stick it to the side of the walls. Its such an eyesore having huge red signs.

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Infrastructure masterpiece!!

Wow, what an engineering feat.

Thank you werico for posting the pics.....
HQ T2 looks very nice , good work..

Thanks for the nice pictures. Definitely a nice airport.

I really wonder what will be the future of the Maglev line.

I love this air port and look very neat and modern

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2010/201003/20100317/article_431428.htm
Shanghai's 2 airports on maglev fast track

By Zha Minjie | 2010-3-17 | NEWSPAPER EDITION

THE traveling time between Shanghai's two airports will be shortened to about 20 minutes, with just three stops, when a new magnetic levitation line is completed.

Li Derun, vice president of the Shanghai Airport Authority, said it had not yet been decided when construction of a major extension to the existing maglev line would begin to link the airports.

Allowing for switching trains, it now takes about 90 minutes to travel between Hongqiao and Pudong international airports by rail.

A trip by car takes about an hour in smooth traffic.

The city government was still discussing detailed plans for the maglev line extension, Li said in an interview after a new terminal at Hongqiao International Airport was put into use yesterday.

Li is also a vice director with the construction group of the Hongqiao Transport Hub, which will be a key point for people traveling by planes, trains and buses.

Shanghai has China's only maglev route which is 31 kilometers long and runs between Metro Line 2's Longyang Road Station, and Pudong International Airport.

According to initial plans for the express route between the two airports, three new stations, including one at the Expo site, will be added to the existing line in Pudong.

The inter-airport maglev line is a part of a 199.5km-long line that is expected to connect Shanghai with Hangzhou, Zhejiang Province, by 2014.

Zhejiang officials have ruled out this year for starting construction of the maglev service between Hangzhou, and Shanghai, Xinhua news agency said.

A statement from the provincial development and reform commission yesterday said the project had no timetable and was still undergoing extensive feasibility studies.

Read more: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2010/201003/20100317/article_431428.htm#ixzz0iOdoLcx2

The interior's amazing... The airside shot reminds me of Haneda... congrats.

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^^ werico, Bohai bbs doesn't allow hotlinks, you'd have to downwload the pics and upload them elsewhere. Actually Bohai bbs can't even be browsed from non Chinese ips, therefore it would be awesome if you bothered to update construction threads of Tianjin projects :)

^^ werico, Bohai bbs doesn't allow hotlinks, you'd have to downwload the pics and upload them elsewhere. Actually Bohai bbs can't even be browsed from non Chinese ips, therefore it would be awesome if you bothered to update construction threads of Tianjin projects :)

just re-uploaded...well, i'm not so familiar with Tianjin projects :nuts:

Will the CRH serve this airport?

amazing!

Will the CRH serve this airport?

the new high-speed train between shanghai and beijing, nanjing and hangzhou will start from this hub

Do you have pictures of the rail station?

Will the CRH serve this airport?

the new high-speed train between shanghai and beijing, nanjing and hangzhou will start from this hub

the new high speed from Pudong Airport is far to Hongqiao Airport by CRH??
have or not yet??

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Do you have pictures of the rail station?

sorry, the rail station is not open yet...not until July...more patience pls

the new high speed from Pudong Airport is far to Hongqiao Airport by CRH??
have or not yet??

there'll be a 30 plus-kilometer maglev line connecting Pudong and Hongqiao airports in the future, not high-speed railway...

New terminal's observation deck shuts public out
19 March 2010
Shanghai Daily

CHEN Meifang, 65, was disappointed to see the "under construction" sign blocking the entrance of the Hongqiao airport's new observation deck, a highlight of the new terminal that is supposed to provide a spectacular view of the runway.

Chen was with other four old friends who came all the way via Metro Line 2 to Terminal 2 of the Hongqiao International Airport, to see planes take off and land at close hand for the first time in their lives.

They saw the planes - but behind a large pane of glass.

"It's really a pity that we can not go a step further," said Chen.

Only two days ago, when the new terminal opened, crowds including dozens of newspaper photographers jammed on the deck to feast their eyes.

The deck, 60 meters long and 8 meters wide one floor above T2's departure floor, was touted as a great vantage point for people to see their friends' or relatives' planes take off.

But the site is now locked, and the reasons aren't clear. Officials said the deck's decor wasn't finished, but some observers speculated the problem was safety; although there is a fence around the deck, people can still throw objects onto the apron if they wanted to.

An airport spokeswoman said yesterday that the platform was closed soon after the first-day operation. She said the interior decoration of the observation deck's lobby would last "a couple of days." But she did not say when the deck would reopen to the public and to what extent.

That the new terminal is not completely finished - there aren't enough guide signs, for instance - had some people asking why it was opened in such a rush.

Chen said there was no signboard to show the exact location of the observation deck.

"I got lost at the terminal," Chen said. She asked at least three volunteers to find the way.

The way to the transfer to Metro Line 2 is not clear with few guiding signs, passengers said.

With the deck closed, many visitors snuck into a canteen next door. It's for airport staff only. It, too, offers a sweeping view of the apron.

"Oh, here they come again," said a worker when he saw Chen and her friends swarm into the canteen.

sorry, the rail station is not open yet...not until July...more patience pls

Any recent aerial/above/overall shots of the rail hub? Google Earth's pic is almost one year old but the blue print itself looks awesome.

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found some recent pics of the rail part and the surroundings

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This project is so much more bigger than Pudongs.

the coolest transit hub in the world!

AWESOME

thanks WERICO

Is this bigger than Pudong T1 and T2 combined? What are the capacities of this airport?

Is this bigger than Pudong T1 and T2 combined? What are the capacities of this airport?

no, it's not bigger than Pudong T1 and T2 combined...the Hongqiao T2's capacity is 40 million passengers per year

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with all these lanes, I would be lost if I have to drive there. :lol:

Thanks a lot werico. Great update..

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Why didn't they make the support pylons broader to support the horizontal beams?

Do we have new pix on this one? plzzzz

Do we have new pix on this one? plzzzz

There are some updates of the rail station on the following website:
http://club.metrofans.sh.cn/thread-118731-1-1.html

It doesn't support external photo linkage, and i'm too lazy to upload all the pics...so pls see for yourself :)

thx :)

I was at the Hongqiao airport the other day and the train station stretches out very far. This has to be bigger than Beijing South. Im not sure its just how it looks to me at street level

Which day will it open? And will the subway station be open too? I'm going to SH soon, would really like to know :)

Which day will it open? And will the subway station be open too? I'm going to SH soon, would really like to know :)

July 1 according to the news.

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Cool! I can't wait to take a train from this monster station on one of the first days it's open!

It's interesting to know that no other country has ever attempted to build infrastructure projects similar to this (or similar in scale as this).

This project is brilliant right from the start. :okay:

Hongqiao CRH railway station debut on July 1st
After more than 3 years construction, Hongqiao CRH railway station, a final stop of Beijing to Shanghai high speed railway, will be in operation on July 1st,2010.

As a major part of Hongqiao Transportation Hub, it will interconnect with Terminal 2 of Hongqiao airport, Shanghai Metro, and other public transportation on the ground.
It is the biggest transportation hub in China which passengers could arrive by air, by train, by bus, by taxi, or by Metro. In the year 2012, it will become no. 1 hub connecting huning intercity rail, huhang intercity rail, and Beijing to Shanghai high speed rail.

At first, travellers could take newly-constructed huning intercity G train from Hongqiao railway station on July 1st.

Some data about new Hongqiao railway station:
80 TVMs to sell tickets
Total 196 fare gates with 126 entrance and 70 exit gates
Total 157 elevators including 32 accessible.

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wow...very nice!

Shanghai's going bigtime!!!!!

looks like the workers really tried to beat the deadline. i hope the railway station will get better once the other terminals are completed.

cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!

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great pix!

theres simply nothing comparable in the whole rest of the world.

Go China....

^^ Is this facility already 100% operational? :?

I have a question: Does Mainland Chinese cities use some sort of Octopus card like Hong Kong on the subway?

Yes quite a few cities have them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smart_cards#Asia
That list is incomplete though, eg I know that Xiamen also have contactless smart card

But all the Chinese cities have different cards. Can one card be used in another city? If not, I am really surprised that they are not trying to standardise the whole system.

Like if you're driving from one city and parking in another city, you should be able to use the same card.

Cards from certain Tangzte delta cities including Shanghai are interchangeable IIRC.

I went to Hongqiao hub just earlier today and it looks like only a few platforms (on the west side) of the railway station are being used. There's still some interior works going on in some sections of the complex with new escalators being installed etc - the road network isn't 100% complete either AFAIK.

^^ Is this facility already 100% operational? :?

The airport part is fully operational.

Only a few CRH trains start from the high-speed train station, i.e. Shanghai-Nanjing, Shanghai-Tianjin, Shanghai-Beijing (200km/h train)

When I was at the station two weeks ago, a few stores in the railway station is still under renovation (opening in weeks). I guess the station will be fully operational when Beijing-Shanghai express rail (350km/h) is completed next year.

Subway line 2 is connecting this facility. There are two stops (Hongqiao airport T2 and Hongqiao railway station)

Subway line 10 has not connected to it yet (it says opening soon), line 10 will also connect Hongqiao T1.

^^ Line 20 connecting suburban Qingpu District and Hongqiao Station and line 17 will be built later.
And who knows when the extension of maglev will start--there is supposed to be a maglev station at Hongqiao hub as well.

But all the Chinese cities have different cards. Can one card be used in another city? If not, I am really surprised that they are not trying to standardise the whole system.

Like if you're driving from one city and parking in another city, you should be able to use the same card.

It is because the cards are issued by individual cities, not a single central ministry. It sounds great to have one card in the country and technically it is not impossible, but it is just not financially feasible. It took years for Shanghai transportation card to be accepted in cities like Wuxi, Hangzhou and Suzhou. The whole Yangtze delta will have all its transportation cards interchangeable by 2012. The trend is that each city still has its own transportation card but eventually can be interchangeable in the country, but that needs time.

^^ Line 20 connecting suburban Qingpu District and Hongqiao Station and line 17 will be built later.
And who knows when the extension of maglev will start--there is supposed to be a maglev station at Hongqiao hub as well.

Definitely, see the title of this thread. The space for maglev line has been there. I'm still keeping my finger crossed for the maglev.

But all the Chinese cities have different cards. Can one card be used in another city? If not, I am really surprised that they are not trying to standardise the whole system.

Like if you're driving from one city and parking in another city, you should be able to use the same card.

I've never seen a nationwide smart card anywhere. In the US all the different cities have their own cards, and so is the case in Europe. Just having a card itself that can be used on bus, subway, ferry, even taxi, is convenient enough for me.

So China should set an example and standardise it. :) After all, all Chinese cities use RMB. Maybe the government wants to keep a healthy competition among the card issuers, or they are afraid that one company may have monopoly power.

I've never seen a nationwide smart card anywhere.
Singapore. :lol:

The scale and quality of the hub is not simply world class, it's Out Of This World !! :nuts:

^^ the quality is indeed very good, but IMO the hub needs to be finetuned to reach a world class level. Since it is still under construction, we'll have to wait and see.

Currently in Korea, transit cards work in most (but not all cities), and soon they will be useable nationwide. Also, we can use our credit cards to scan on and off subways and buses in most cities.

Shanghai-Hangzhou HSR Station in final testing phase before opening

The 154 km Shanghai-Hangzhou HSR will be operational in October, making it possible to travel from Shanghai to Hangzhou in 38 minutes.

Waiting Lounge for Shanghai-Hangzhou HSR in Hongqiao Traffic Hub, will open soon
(This is different from the waiting lounge for Shanghai-Nanjing ICL)
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Xinhua news photo on Sep 9th.

Currently in Korea, transit cards work in most (but not all cities), and soon they will be useable nationwide. Also, we can use our credit cards to scan on and off subways and buses in most cities.

That would be handy. I think there are more countries with nationwide cards, but for large countries such as China and USA, I doubt if there will be one nationwide card in the near future--maybe credit cards, but not transportaion cards.