http://i49.tinypic.com/bhww79.jpg



Urbika.com/Bergen/ (http://www.urbika.com/cities/view/202-bergen)
Location and information on all listed projects in Bergen.
http://i45.tinypic.com/2nqbnfp.jpg (http://www.urbika.com/cities/view/202-bergen)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

Selected projects
A selection of Bergen's ongoing projects. To view the complete overview of all projects, go to Urbika.

Grand Hotel Terminus (http://urbika.com/projects/view/1100-grand-hotel-terminus)
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6671/grandhotelterminus4x100.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

Kunsthøgskolen i Bergen (http://urbika.com/projects/view/3916-kunstha-cedil-gskole)
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/8901/kunsthgskolen2x1000.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

Odontologibygget (http://urbika.com/projects/view/2151-odontologibygget)
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5416/odontologibygget1x1000.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

Nygårdstangen (http://urbika.com/projects/view/4560-nyga-yen-rdstangen)
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9229/nygrdstangen1x998.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

Amalie Skram VGS (http://urbika.com/projects/view/3904-amalie-skram-vgs)
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9018/amalieskramvgs1x1000.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

Høgskolen i Bergen (http://urbika.com/projects/view/2152-ha-cedil-gskolen-i-b)
http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/4456/hgskolenibergen1x1000.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

Gulating Lagmannsrett (http://urbika.com/projects/view/2228-gulating-lagmannsret)
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/717/gulatinglagmannsrett1x1.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

Statoil Sandsli (http://urbika.com/projects/view/4000-statoil-sandsli)
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8097/statoilsandsli1x1000.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

Nyhavn (http://urbika.com/projects/view/3926-nyhavn)
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8726/nyhavn1x1000.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

See more? Urbika.com/Bergen (http://urbika.com/cities/view/202-bergen)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/BETWEENBAR_3pix.jpg

Editing list - In the making!

City of Bergen

Bybanen Skyscrapercity Urbika* Construction
Damgårdsveien 99 Skyscrapercity Urbika* Proposed
Grand Hotel Terminus Skyscrapercity Urbika* Approved
Hotel Ørnen Skyscrapercity Urbika* Approved
Høgskolen i Bergen Skyscrapercity Urbika* Approved
Nesttun Hotell Skyscrapercity Urbika* Proposed
Odontologibygget Skyscrapercity Urbika* Approved
Prosjekt Birkeland Skyscrapercity Urbika* Proposed
Sandviken Twin Towers Skyscrapercity Urbika* Proposed
Åsane Nord Skyscrapercity Urbika* Proposed


Bergen metro (Fjell and Askøy municipalities)

Nordre Bildøy Skyscrapercity Urbika* Proposed
Sjøstrand Skyscrapercity Urbika* Approved
Straume Sentrum/Sartor Skyscrapercity Urbika* Proposed
Straume Sjøfront Skyscrapercity Urbika* Approved

Nye Brann Stadion
August 2001 | Proposing a new football stadium in Bergen. The proposal included two 150m / 40fl tall twin towers with offices,
retail, residentials and a hotel. The stadium was proposed with 28 000 seats. Never built.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/BergenStadionHyhussmall.jpg

Nygårdstangen Hotel
A 90m/26 floor tall hotel proposed in 2001. The entire building included a large swimming center. As this was supose
to be completed in 2005 i can for sure say it was never built.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/NygrdstangenHotel2.gif

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/NygrdstangenHotel3.gif

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/NygrdstangenHotel.gif

Nordnes Brygge

Nordnes Brygge is a 40m / 9fl tall residential building with 58 apartments. Construction started in June 2004 and was
completed in September 2005. It was designed by LINK Arkitekter AS.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/NordnesBrygge1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/NordnesBrygge2.jpg

http://home.online.no/~runness/ch/images/Bergen/Bergen%20Stadion%20Hoyhus.jpg
Wow!:eek2:
Looks very cool. I really hope that they will build these towers.

Nygårdstangen Hotel looks very good too, Norway rocks! :)

I like the Nye Brann stadion towers project immensely!:okay: They look so futuristic:cool:
The Nygårdstangen Hotel is also nice. This project seems well-balanced:)

No problems with these city development threads! I like them! Especially with such fine projects! Have heard about these stadion towers before - but did not know that they are so fine looking!

Store Lungegårdsvann
3RW Architects won a masterplan competition in January 2004 with this proposal.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/StoreLungegrdsvann2.jpg

Nøstetårnene

Some proposed highrise buildings in downtown Bergen. The first proposal suggested two twins on 14 (59m rooftop/
62m on spire) and 12 floors. They were to house retail and office space, a theatre and 70 apartments. Construction
was suppose to start in 2006.

The proposal encountered heavy opposition and was finally rejected by the city council in May 2005. The developers
tried again one year later proposing two buildings on 12 and 10 floors. This proposal was also rejected by the city
council.

A render of the second proposal.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/Nstetrnet11.jpg

I said in PM, that I thought a Bergen thread could be interesting, and judging by your posts so far, it sure is! Do you know where to find more info about that new stadium.

About Store Lungegårdsvann; I think they should have done something with that huge, ugly intersection, but I guess that is not part of the project.

BTW. Perhaps we should make a "Norway outside Oslo and Bergen update" thread sometime....well, not yet, but it's a thought:)

I said in PM, that I thought a Bergen thread could be interesting, and judging by your posts so far, it sure is! Do you know where to find more info about that new stadium.

About Store Lungegårdsvann; I think they should have done something with that huge, ugly intersection, but I guess that is not part of the project.

BTW. Perhaps we should make a "Norway outside Oslo and Bergen update" thread sometime....well, not yet, but it's a thought:)

Well, i have found three places where i found info about the project, today there is only one place left i know exist, thats on www.stalguiden.com :)

Norway outside Oslo and Bergen thread is a good idea, but i agree we should wait some turns before we do that, first lets post most of the projects in Oslo and Bergen which we know of. :)

150 m? That's really tall, let's hope they will get built (and the other buildings too :D)

Nye Høgskolen
Kronstad - Bergen

This is the final proposal for the new high-school in Bergen which was approved in late may this year. The new high school counting 51 750 sqm is expected to start construction in 2007 and will be completed in 2012. The new high-school main buildings is as closest a high-rise building we can come, with 10 floors.

http://cubo.inforce.dk/graphics/cubo/02_projekter/uddannelsesbyggeri/405_HogskoleBergen/rendering.gif

http://www.ba.no/multimedia/archive/00408/ask4_408960g.jpg

http://cubo.inforce.dk/graphics/cubo/02_projekter/uddannelsesbyggeri/405_HogskoleBergen/Kantinehave.jpg

http://cubo.inforce.dk/graphics/cubo/02_projekter/uddannelsesbyggeri/405_HogskoleBergen/uderum.jpg

http://cubo.inforce.dk/graphics/cubo/02_projekter/uddannelsesbyggeri/405_HogskoleBergen/travers.jpg

http://cubo.inforce.dk/graphics/cubo/01_nyheder/konkurrencenyt/bergen_vinder1.jpg

http://cubo.inforce.dk/graphics/cubo/02_projekter/uddannelsesbyggeri/405_HogskoleBergen/model1.jpg

Startbo Fønix

This project was completed in November 2005. You can read more about this project in Norwegian here: Veidekke Article about Startbo Fønix (http://www.veidekke.no/norge/prosjekter/bolig/article2800.ece)

sorry, could not find any of the old renderings posted here.

Nygårdsgaten 74

A 8 floor tall apartment building completed in late 2004. Designed by Link Arkitekter AS.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/Nygrdsgaten741.jpg

Nygårdskvartalet
Bergen - Norway

Finally, the first rederings of the proposed tower in Bergen. The tower is proposed close to Bergen City Hall which is 14 floors and a old commieblock. The tower counting 70m and 21 floors will have a area on 17 000sqm. The tower is a proposal yeat, and it has woken a lot of opposition amoung the politics and the population. They say this area can handle high-rise buildings, but not taller than City Hall which is about 30m lower than this proposed tower.

The discussion will continue, and i expect this project will never be realized, they never do anymore, especally not in downtown Bergen. But i still hope for approval....:)

Some rederings has been relized, but they are smal and bad, ill see i can find some more later.

http://www.entraeiendom.no/files/picture/Nonneseter_Img002_updated_jpg.jpg

http://bt.no/multimedia/archive/00186/bygarasjen_skyskrap_186281a.jpg

http://bt.no/multimedia/archive/00188/Body_503897-1_188893a.jpg
Bergen skyline, with this new tower and City hall.

Lots of interesting stuff! Especially the stadium towers...

Nygårdsgaten 53

A 8 floor tall retail and residential building. It has 35 apartments and was completed in early 2005.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/Nygrdsgaten53I.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/Nygrdsgaten53.jpg

Studenttåren
A 18 floor tall apartment tower for students, situated near Nonneseterkvartalet. Designed by Bjerk og Bjørge AS. Never built.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/Studenttrn1.jpg

Råstølen Boligprosjekt
Bergen - Norway

A smal residential project. Some houses in a complex with 24 apartments. This project is curently under construction.

http://www.boetablering.no/images/Råstølen/Mir/Bilder%20for%20web/utenomhus_final_1800.jpg

Strong opinions against the new high-rise buildings in Bergen...?

Read this one if you understand Norwegian:
http://www.ba.no/meninger/spaltist/solberg_johansen/article1246957.ece

She is against high-rise buildings, and call the proposed tower in Bergen downtown a Lego-penis, a huge colossus and is "actually a ugly high-rise"...!

May be this is specific context... building huge and high building in very center of historical city is not always a good thing.

May be this is specific context... building huge and high building in very center of historical city is not always a good thing.

Yes it does, but the ppl is not afraid this will hurt the historicsl buildings, but destroy the skyline which they wants the wooden houses to be. But City hall is already the skyline, and that buildings is ugly, a commieblock from the 70c in grey concrete color. They should either rebuild city hall, or place a taller building near it.

Bergen is a very special city, and even on the UNESCO list. So it's important to not make any arcitectural mistakes in the center of the city. But I would like to comment on one phrase that she uses(my bold): "Bygget blir dermed syv etasjer høyere enn den arkitektoniske kaktusen Rådhuset, og kan dermed vinne i kampen om styggest-stempelet i Bergen."

This sentence says:"The building will then be 7 floors higher than the architectonic cactus that is the city hall, and may therefore win the battle to become the ugliest in Bergen". By this she implies that there is a direct relation between tall and ugly. I can only say how typical, and how wrong:ohno: just see my photo of the day in "Urban photo thread"....wich clearly prooves otherwise.

New Brann stadium

Scetches for a new Brann stadium is ready, and construction can start next summer. The stadium will have 21.000 seats, and cost around 150 million NOK. There will be built areas for commerce, apartments and parkinglots in the stadium. It will be a new grass-floor(or what it is called in english), and VIP-seats. It will be financed by the municipality and rich supporters.

As it is today
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00238/_Stadionsor1c_jpg_238935h.jpg

New stadium
http://cache.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00238/_BRannstadion_jpg_238901h.jpg

source: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/sport/fotball/article915547.ece

Hm, reminds me far to much of Ullevall. Don't like it at all actually, they should have had a far more spectacular stadium. I expected a typical stadium, but this looks far to typical. But this is lucky some easy first rederings, i hope it turnes out to become a bit better.

Tram/lightrail finally to Bergen(again)

Ever since the tram was put out of service in 1965, there has been a debate wheter a tram-line should be re-established.
And after years of political battle, chances are now very high that a new tram/lightrail line will be a reality in some years.
Partially because the traffic problems in the areas along this line is getting rapidly worse. It is estimated that the traffic in
the area will increase by 50-70% within 2015.

The regulation-plans for the 10 first kilometers of the tracks are now finished, and the goverment has set aside money to
start construction next year. Total cost of this project is estimated to end up on 270 million euros, of wich 144 millions
is for the first 10 kilometers. It will be financed partially by the state and by the toll-road around Bergen. The track
between downtown and Nesttun will open in 2008, if everything goes well.

This map shows the route of the first 10 kilometers:
http://www.bybane.no/sent_nest_orto.jpg

And this shows the route that is planned all the way to the airport:
http://www.bybane.no/sent_flyp_orto_byggtr.jpg

The tram will go every 5 minute in the rush-hours, and each 10 minute at other times. When finished, it will serve
70% of the population in Bergen. The track will be feeded with busses going to the surrounding areas.

Downtown, the track will go in own public-transport streets, and out of downtown it will go separate from
other traffic, partially in tunnel.

Some illustrations

At the end stop downtown
http://www.bybane.no/02_Sentrum_Nonneseter_B.jpg

http://www.bybane.no/1_Starvhusgt_50.jpg

http://www.bybane.no/10_Nonneseter_50.jpg


Kaigaten
http://www.bybane.no/2_Bystajonen_50.jpg

A new bridge at Nygårdsstømmen
http://www.bybane.no/4_Strommen_50.jpg

At Wergeland
http://www.bybane.no/6_Minde_50.jpg

Another place
http://www.bybane.no/7_Sletten_50.jpg

At Sletten Centre, where there is also a shopping-centre under construction.
http://www.bybane.no/SlettenSenter_50.jpg

Edit:
sources:http://www.bytrafikk.no/default.asp?id=1&ACT=5&content=146&mnu=1
http://www.bybane.no/

^^^
Okay, that was a wonderful post. Tänk juu! Because of the planned light rail system in Tampere, I have developed a weird "fetish" for trams and other similar systems. Given that Bergen is so narrow (I have to say, you NEED to get us a detailed map of the city -- the way it is placed between those fjords, it looks so unique!) tram lines running through it should give excellent for moving around.

With no disrespect to Oslo, I'm starting to find Bergen a very interesting place. :)

wow...gongraz to Bergen...This project is very huge and nice(according to pics)
and I also counted 7 tunnels...
Btw how many bus-lines does Bergen have?

^^^
Okay, that was a wonderful post. Tänk juu! Because of the planned light rail system in Tampere, I have developed a weird "fetish" for trams and other similar systems. Given that Bergen is so narrow (I have to say, you NEED to get us a detailed map of the city -- the way it is placed between those fjords, it looks so unique!) tram lines running through it should give excellent for moving around.

With no disrespect to Oslo, I'm starting to find Bergen a very interesting place. :)

But Bergen is very interesting(says the man that has not visited for 23 years;)), except that some people find bergensians to be extremely loudmouthed and have having a tendensy to brag alot, especially about Bergen:D People from Bergen use to say "I'm not from Norway, I'm from Bergen". But really, we have an office there, and they are really nice people.

It is like you say, Bergen is squeezed between the mountains, and therefore the urban area streches out very far from the city centre. I think these maps, that shows the urban area of Bergen, clearly illustrates this.

http://www.ssb.no/emner/01/01/20/tettstedkart/fylke12-34.gif
http://www.ssb.no/emner/01/01/20/tettstedkart/fylke12-33.gif

Bergen gets high-rise areas

Today a new proposal was presented for the public. It presents a proposals of 6 specific area where its supose to be allowed to built high-rise buildings.

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00201/kart_h_yhus_grafikk_201868a.jpg

This is the 6 areas where its supose to be allowed to built high-rise buildings. This also means many proposed buildings today must be rejected. Projects like this is the 21 floor tall tower in Nygårdskvartalet, which was proposed a few weeks ago. Nøstetårnene is also in the area where its not allowed to buitl high-rise buildings. The downtown area outside these high-rise zones will have a maximum height at 27m, or 9 floors.But this is still just a proposal, reminds me a lot of the proposals of high-rise areas in Oslo nowdays.

Jonsvollskvartalet

A 17 floor/ 50m tall office and residential tower proposed for Jonsvollskvartalet in downtown Bergen. The proposal was published autumn 2004, and awaits its fate summer 2005. The proposal caused to major opposition, because its situated in a area with wooden buildings. Therefor, a new proposal may be published this spring.

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00201/hhus2_201850a.jpg

http://www.ba.no/multimedia/archive/00510/jon2_510589g.jpg

http://www.ba.no/multimedia/archive/00510/jon4_510598g.jpg

http://www.ba.no/multimedia/archive/00510/jon5_510599g.jpg

Nice with trams in Bergen as well...:) Trondheim still has its trams, and a new tramrail is been planned up the E6 Elgeseter. But these planns is still not completed. And i think we actually need it, because the midtown can't handle much more traffic than today. And we will see a large increase in traffic there as well. But there is already a large tunnel project going on in midtown, at the harbour. Quite similar to the Bjørvika tunnel, just in a smaller size. This project is supose to be completed in 2009 i think.

But there is already a large tunnel project going on in midtown, at the harbour. Quite similar to the Bjørvika tunnel, just in a smaller size. This project is supose to be completed in 2009 i think.

Interesting! It would be nice to hear more about those plans too. My parents told me that there was quite alot of toll-roads in Tronheim, when they were there last month. Not only did the "main" toll-road charge both in and out of the city, there was also an inner city toll-ring, as I understood it. Is some of those money going to that project?

Anyways, that should probably be in a separate thread, as it is Bergen we are talking about here :cheers:

Interesting! It would be nice to hear more about those plans too. My parents told me that there was quite alot of toll-roads in Tronheim, when they were there last month. Not only did the "main" toll-road charge both in and out of the city, there was also an inner city toll-ring, as I understood it. Is some of those money going to that project?

Anyways, that should probably be in a separate thread, as it is Bergen we are talking about here :cheers:

Yes thats correct, there are several tolls in the outser city and the inner city. Well actually i think its very messy with the tolls because they are everywhere, suddently far outside the city, then we can find them in the inner city.

I can post these planns later, perhaps in the road development thread or a Trondheim development thread if i create it. :)

Ørnen

Status: On Hold
Construction: August 2005 - April 2007
Architect: Bjerk og Bjørge AS
Homepage: www.ornen.no/ (http://www.ornen.no/)

Ørnen is a 12 story tall residential building, situated in downtown Bergen, in the heart of the densest area of Bergen. The tower contains 86 apartments and is expected to be completed in 2007. Construction was supose to start in august 2005, but the project has been put on hold due to opposition from population and politicians against the project.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/rnen1small.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6416/rnen12vn.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/rnen2small.jpg (http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/6407/rnen25tg.jpg)
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/8283/rnen48an.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/rnen3small.jpg (http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/9012/rnen39tc.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/rnen5small.jpg (http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/8085/rnen50ko.jpg)

Bergen Sjøfront, Nøstet

Bergen Sjøfront is a huge project, with the same size as the Fjordcity project in Oslo. Nøstet in a part of this project, and renderings has been released after the architectural competition in late 2003. Nøstet has already two high-rise proposals as you saw earlyer in this thread, but it also includes more. A 13 storey tall cultural and hotell building is also proposed. I don't know more about it actually, but i've heard that the city council is far more positive to high-rise buildings situated in the waterfront than high-rise buildings situated further in between the older squares and buildings.

http://www.rra.no/rra/images/sjofront001_big.jpg
This is a part of Nøstet, as you can se it contain mostly industry and warehouse builidngs, with older buildings up the hillside.

http://www.rra.no/rra/images/sjofront004_big.jpg
Its extremly important to keep this older buildings as they is today, so the proposal contains mostly new residential and cultural buildings at the waterfront which is today covered with industrial facilities.

http://www.rra.no/rra/images/sjofront002_big.jpg
In this rendering you can also see the shadow from the 13 story high-rise building standing on this island. That is the coverage of the shadow in winter.

http://www.rra.no/rra/images/sjofront005_big.jpg
Another rendering of the project and the surroundings.

I've always regarded Norwegian architecture very highly, more highly than Finnish in fact, and these projects don't make an exception. I sincerely hope that these things get done as they are presented in the renderings, they very obviously are first-class design. :) Heja Norge!

I've always regarded Norwegian architecture very highly, more highly than Finnish in fact, and these projects don't make an exception. I sincerely hope that these things get done as they are presented in the renderings, they very obviously are first-class design. :) Heja Norge!

There is also some renderings of some very unique and nice cultural centers in this Nøstet project, i've seen only a few images in a pdf file, but i hope ill see more from them soon.

Vil stanse høyhus i Jonsvollskvartalet

Et 17 etasjers høyhus i Jonsvollskvartalet kan være i strid med nasjonale kulturminneinteresser, mener fylkesrådmann Paul M. Nilsen.

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00215/Body_659760-1_215793a.jpg

Hans råd til politikerne er at det blir reist innsigelse mot den nye bebyggelsesplanen.

Sterkere lut rår ikke fylkespolitikerne med overfor kommunene. Om ikke Berge sier nei til høyhusplanene, kan saken ende i Miljøverndepartementet.

Utbygger Ole J. Strønen fikk godkjent en reguleringsplan for Jonsvollskvartalet i 1999. Siden har det skjedd lite i kvartalet mellom Engen og Nøstet, bortsett fra riving og asfaltering.

Den snart seks år gamle planen forutsatte at alle Strønens bygninger ble jevnet med jorden. Siden har Strønen besluttet å bevare tre gamle trehus og finne plass inne i kvartalet til hele eller deler av Ekserserhuset.

I dette ligger forklaringen på høyhuset. For å kompensere arealet som blir brukt til å bevare småhusene og Ekserserhuset, vil Strønen bygge i høyden. Resultatet blir et hus som rager 50 meter over bakken - dobbelt så høyt som reguleringsplanen tillater.

Jonsvollskvartalet er ikke utpekt som egnet for høyhusbebyggelse. Tvert imot vil et høyhus her bryte med noe av Bergens særpreg; den teppeliknende bebyggelsen som følger terrenget. Fylkesrådmannen er positiv til at småhusene blir bevart og at hele kvartalet åpnes med en passasje. Men prisen for dette blir etter rådmannens mening for høy. Tirsdag skal saken opp i komité for kultur og ressurs.

Opposition is growing fast against the proposed 17 floor tall high-rise building in Jonsvollskvartalet. The county advicer/county councilor sais the proposal might be in conflict with some national cultural intrests. He recomend to the city council to out up exception to the proposal regulation plan.

Nye Brann stadion towers
Unknown location - Bergen

This is the tallest real proposal i ever have seen in Norway,

http://home.online.no/~runness/ch/images/Bergen/Bergen%20Stadion%20Hoyhus.jpg

...and more interesting progect i ever have seen in Norway,(by arch-design)

Both towers is expected to be completed in 2015 if it becomes built.

...but..., so long time to wait :sly:

@ YanXenus

Yes, its a very long time. The proposal was a 2015 regulation plan for that area. And i guess if the building would be approved we would have the most impetuous high-rise discussion in Bergen and Norway in history. The project would probably need many years in the hands of the city council before they would approve it. But i haven't heard or seen anything from that proposal for about 3 years now, and meanwhile they have approved the stadium in another location, so the project will most certainly not be even taken up to the city council, or continued planning.

Kunsthøgskolen i Bergen (new academy)

Here are another architectural competition due the new Bergen waterfront project. Statsbygg announced on 10 December 2004 a limited Architectural and Design competition for the new academy. After interviews done 7-11th february they have selected 7 architect firms to the competition. The winner will be pronounced in mid - june 2005. The academy is situated in the south part of Store Lungegårdsvann and is planned to be completed in 2008.

Architect firms:
Behnisch, Behnisch & Partner/Rambøll - Norway
Benthem Crouwel Architekten - Netherlands
Brisac Gonzalez Architects - United Kingdom
LPO Arkitekter - Norway
Schmidt Hammer Lassen - Denmark
Snøhetta AS - Norway
Zaha Hadid Architects - United Kingdom

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/kunsthogskolen_bergen.jpg
Competition site. The site is 17 500sqm large and is situated in an old industrial area not very far from downtown Bergen. Reconstruction of whole the waterfront of this water, Store Lungegårdsvann will happend in the next 15 years.
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Update:
Updated posts with all the proposals and more information here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=4231220&postcount=69).

serious names, at least those 5 that i know. Hope Bergen will get new landmark soon.

serious names, at least those 5 that i know.

Yes, 63 architect firms from 14 different countries announce to be apart of the competition, only 7 made it though. Such an competition as this is very attractive, especally in Norway.

To Christian
Do you have some renderings more for this project ?
I´d like to learn it . So would be nice to see them in higher resolution.

To Christian
Do you have some renderings more for this project ?
I´d like to learn it . So would be nice to see them in higher resolution.

Sorry, but that was the only images i can find. I've searched around for the architects, but i've never found one little image exept that one. But if ill find some more i will post them here immediately (that includes any information too). :)

It could by nice :okay:

Ørnen approved

The 12 floor tall residential building Ørnen was approved this week, for the very first time. A month ago, the project was declined by the construction department of Bergen, because it was too tall, and because the site where the tower is located do not fit for residential usage. However, on wednesday the project was approved for further development of the city council.

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00223/2_223538a.jpg
Ørnen is situated in downtown Bergen close to the existing DnB Bygget (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=187306), which is the current tallest high rise in Bergen.

Startbo Fønix
Damsgård - Bergen

Two towers with 8 and 9 floors, togather with 94 bedsit-apartments for students. Each apartment will have a size from 31sqm to 80sqm. The residential project will also contains about 2000sqm with retail space, and a parking garage with 78 parking lots below ground. The construction started in august 2004, and is expected to be completed in november 2005.

http://cache.finn.no/mmo/4697305_1_0_fonix.jpg

Construction update:

http://www.veidekke.no/norge/multimedia/archive/00000/Startbo8_Fonix_Medium__454c.jpg

http://www.veidekke.no/norge/multimedia/archive/00000/Startbo7__Fonix_Medium_455c.jpg

http://www.veidekke.no/norge/multimedia/archive/00000/Startbo6_Fonix_Medium__456c.jpg

http://www.veidekke.no/norge/multimedia/archive/00000/Startbo5_Fonix__Medium_457c.jpg

Wow, this is COOL!!! It looks like some science-fiction building! :D

http://home.online.no/~runness/ch/images/Bergen/Bergen%20Stadion%20Hoyhus.jpg

^^^ yeah it looks fantastic, but to be honest, nothing good happens in Bergen, talking about projects:( just they are diging streets in the center, because smth happend with a water-supply. so pretty boring, but nevertheless it is really cool town:D

Wow, this is COOL!!! It looks like some science-fiction building! :D

http://home.online.no/~runness/ch/images/Bergen/Bergen%20Stadion%20Hoyhus.jpg

So sad it never got built. The planns for this proposal was already dead in 2002.

^Really? Damn, that sucks. :(

Maybe they'll build it in Seattle instead. :D

you wish! that's Bergen's idea and nobody is allowed to copy it :bash:



;)

Åsane Parken
Ulset - Bergen

80 apartments in a new building close to Åsane Senter, a mall with 70 stores. Construction will start this summer and is expected to be completed in june 2007.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/AsaneSenter1kopi.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/cityx/Architecture/AsaneSenter2kopi.jpg

Cool building, looks very spacious from inside and it doesn`t look like ordinary box and existence of balconies is also a good thing.

indeed looks fabulous

Åsane..little bit far away..suburb.

but the project is really impressing!

Vil ha høyhus opp til 50 meter i Bergen

Byrådet i Bergen skal behandle et forslag om at det skal kunne bygges hus med en høyde på opp til 50 meter i Bergen. I dag er maksimal byggehøyde 27 meter eller ni etasjer.

Byråd for byutvikling, Lisbeth Iversen (KrF), presenterte sitt forslag til retningslinjer for lokalisering av høyhus i Bergen på en pressekonferanse onsdag.

Forslaget peker ut fire områder der bebyggelse på opptil 27 meter eller 50 meter kan vurderes.
Det foreligger flere prosjekter som innebærer høyhusbebyggelse i Bergen, og byrådet ønsker å lage en helhetlig plan for utbyggingen. Byrådet ønsker debatt om saken før den skal behandles.


Summary: City council is about to work on a proposal that will allow buildings up to 50 meters in Bergen. Current maximum height is 27 meters, or 9 floors. The proposal points out 4 areas fit for buildings up to 50 meters. There are several plans for highrises in Bergen, and the city council wants an integral plan for highrises. The city council wants a public debate about the propsal before they decide anything.

http://www.bygg.no/news/newsshow.asp?AreaID=1&NewsID=13585

Still 50 m would not be enough for those "Stadion beauties" (Space-age highrise proposal for Bergen stadium).
I find these rules setting one maximum height for WHOLE city area ridiculous. Seems as if municipal authorities are hard trying to make city as boring and face-less as possible.

Seems as if municipal authorities are hard trying to make city as boring and face-less as possible.

It's part of the norwegian mentality. It's mostly the same in Oslo. Nothing should look extraordinary nice. Let's continue to build 8-12 floor buildings, like we always have done, that does not look extravagant, not out of the ordinary, that blends in, but not too ugly. The worst that can happen is if someone builds a really tall residential. That means there will be some rich people that can have better views than the average joe, lets do everything we can to avoid that from happening. Or better yet, "eat the rich"! They probably earned their money in an indecent way anyway!

The area where they are allowed to built up to 50m is ridiculous. As the map show the red areas is where they are allowed to built up to 50m, and the yellow up to 27m. And thoose areas where you are allowed to built 50m is very small, and is today occupated by high rise building on 50m. Hegreneset is occupated by several silos which is 42m tall. Perhaps those will be reconstructed to apartments or offices over the years. The Nygård area is occupated by a 55m tall office building from the 70s. Its allowed to built high rise buildings up to 50m, which is lower than that building. :|

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00225/h_yhus_225904a.jpg

Not that much different from general mentality here. F.e. Homo latviensis is immensely happy to see foreign companies pushing out the "greedy local businessman".
Only difference from Norway - average Latvian has much less influence on decisions than average Norvegian. Thus we have less "average buildings". One day it will come.

Sheez. Just a few small areas where buildings up to 27 meters might be considered!! That's f***ed up!

The Nygård area is occupated by a 55m tall office building from the 70s. Its allowed to built high rise buildings up to 50m, which is lower than that building. :|


heh, I believe, you mean this building;) despite the age, it is really impresive.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/alonso_online/Bergenas0220/DCP_1372.jpg

heh, I believe, you mean this building;) despite the age, it is really impresive.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/alonso_online/Bergenas0220/DCP_1372.jpg

Yes, DNB Bygget. Its a typical office building from the 70s but might be a bit impressive of course. :)

Kunsthøgskolen i Bergen / Bergen National Academy of the Arts

In the beginning of march this year i wrote an article in this thread about the competition for the new academy in Bergen. Statsbygg announced on 10 December 2004 a limited Architectural and Design competition for the new academy. After interviews done 7-11th february they have selected 7 architect firms to the competition. However, 1 of them was later declined from the competition because they did not present a proposal which was enough. The winner (one team or more) of the six proposals will be pronounced 24th of june 2005. The academy is situated in the south part of Store Lungegårdsvann and is planned to be completed in 2009.

The proposals was presented this morning, and the was public from 18.00 this evening. There are six proposals public, but which architect team is behind is not yet known. Which team was declined is not known to the public as well.

Architect firms: (one of them is declined from the competition)
Behnisch, Behnisch & Partner/Rambøll - Norway
Benthem Crouwel Architekten - Netherlands
Brisac Gonzalez Architects - United Kingdom
LPO Arkitekter - Norway
Schmidt Hammer Lassen - Denmark
Snøhetta AS - Norway
Zaha Hadid Architects - United Kingdom

The site is 17 500sqm large and is situated in an old industrial area not very far from downtown Bergen. Reconstruction of whole the waterfront of this water, Store Lungegårdsvann will happend in the next 15 years.

Proposal 1: PONT
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00229/kunsth_gskolen_arki_229434a.jpg

Large size image (3504x2336 pixels) (http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/PONT_04.JPG)
http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/PONT_04small.jpg

Proposal 2: Møllesteinen
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00229/kunsth_gskolen_arki_229435a.jpg

Large size image (3504x2336 pixels) (http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/Moellesteinen_04.JPG)
http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/Moellesteinen_04small.jpg

Proposal 3: 1,1 PROMILLE
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00229/kunsth_gskolen_arki_229436a.jpg

Large size image (3504x2336 pixels) (http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/11%20PROMILLE_02.JPG)
http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/11%20PROMILLE_02small.jpg

Proposal 4: Dreiepunkt
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00229/kunsth_gskolen_arki_229437a.jpg

Large size image (3504x2336 pixels) (http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/Dreiepunkt_04.JPG)
http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/Dreiepunkt_04small.jpg

Proposal 5: Himmellys
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00229/kunsth_gskolen_arki_229438a.jpg

Large size image (3504x2336 pixels) (http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/Himmellys_04.JPG)
http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/Himmellys_04small.jpg

Proposal 6: Artfactory
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00229/kunsth_gskolen_arki_229439a.jpg

Large size image (3504x2336 pixels) (http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/Artfactory_02.JPG)
http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/Artfactory_02small.jpg

I like proposal 2, the others are a bit boxy!

vent lit...hvilken Kunsthøgskolen i Bergen er det om?

as far as I know, that's a place where Kunsthøgskolen is located (green spot) so what kind of waterfront are they talkin' about?

http://img31.echo.cx/img31/7442/mapcds3et.jpg

vent lit...hvilken Kunsthøgskolen i Bergen er det om?

as far as I know, that's a place where Kunsthøgskolen is located (green spot) so what kind of waterfront are they talkin' about?

http://img31.echo.cx/img31/7442/mapcds3et.jpg

Den nye Kunsthøgskolen ligger ved Store Lungegårdsvann.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/kunsthogskolen_bergen.jpg

This is the plot where the school will be located, in the southeaster side of Store Lungegårdsvann, or Møllendalsveienbakken. Whole this district is to be reconstructed in the fallowing 10 years.

oh, the new one! I thought, that the old one will be demolished..I just mixed up a bit;) great news!

^ Yeah! Btw, which one is your favorite(s)?

Proposal 3 and 4 is mine favorites, but i hardly belive they will approve any of them.

1st looks as an ordinary box.

well, the form of circle doesn't not look very attractive (mr alonso rejects proposals numb 2 and 5).

numbers 6 and 3 are sort of copies of Grieghallen:
http://www.grieghallen.no/omvisning/grieg1b.jpg

http://www.icbl2001.uib.no/images/grieghallen.jpg

so...there is only number 4 left!
as the result, I wouldn't trust only these models, 'cause you can never know how they would look like in reality:sly:

as the result, I wouldn't trust only these models, 'cause you can never know how they would look like in reality:sly:

Yeah, but that is what the jury will judge, so its the only thing we can watch so far. ;)

Nøstetårnene declined

The proposed Nøstetårnene was declined of the city council today. The proposal contained two twins on 14 (59m) and 12 floors which was too tall sais the council. The buildings was also to contain a theater for children.

http://www.ba.no/multimedia/archive/00608/h_yhus2_608745g.jpg

http://www.ba.no/multimedia/archive/00608/h_yhus1_608744g.jpg

http://www.ba.no/multimedia/archive/00608/h_yhus4_608748g.jpg

http://www.ba.no/multimedia/archive/00608/h_yhus3_608746g.jpg

Not since the approval of DNB Bygget in 1979 has a high-rise building been approved in Bergen, among tens of proposals, espeically the last 10 years. :(

Sad, but so predictable :(

to be honest, I don't think, Bergen needs any skyscrapers;)

Yea, with it`s beautiful landscape it really doesn`t.

to be honest, I don't think, Bergen needs any skyscrapers;)

Yeah, but i still think its sad to see some really good proposals been declined because of the height which i don't think is a large issue in Nøstetårnene's proposal. The proposed height is good in my opinion, and is quite far from a skyscraper! ;)

Yeah, but i still think its sad to see some really good proposals been declined because of the height which i don't think is a large issue in Nøstetårnene's proposal. The proposed height is good in my opinion, and is quite far from a skyscraper! ;)

Bergen doesn't need hirises to look fabulous. I do agree that the proposal wasn't that tall one, and I like the unique design, so I wouldn't mind seeing that in Bergen. Nonetheless, Bergen is a vibrant city which is just as great with or without hirises.

Bergen doesn't need hirises to look fabulous. I do agree that the proposal wasn't that tall one, and I like the unique design, so I wouldn't mind seeing that in Bergen. Nonetheless, Bergen is a vibrant city which is just as great with or without hirises.

Yesyes, i agree. :)

Minde nærings- og idrettspark
Bergen - Hordaland

In april 2002 Link Arkitekter proposed the 110 000sqm Minde nærings- og idrettspark. The proposal contains 7 office and retail buildings and a stadium. The stadium was first a proposal to the new Brann stadium, but has been declined. However, the project development did not stop, but the current status is unknown.

http://img234.echo.cx/img234/7272/minde4uh.png

Bopel
Sandvika - Bergen

Bopel is a residential project consisting of three 6 story buildings. Hus C, the first construction phase was completed in september 2004, Hus B in february 2005 while Hus C is expected to be completed in july 2005. Each building contains 34 apartments.

http://www.bopel.com/images/modell2.jpg

http://www.bopel.com/images/byggeplass/byggeplass_18.jpg
Construction status in october 2004.

1.1 promille won! (Bergen National Academy of the Arts)

Statsbygg announced on 10th December 2004 a limited Architectural and Design competition for the new Bergen National Academy of the Arts. After interviews done 7-11th february they selected 7 architect firms to the competition. However, 1 of them was later declined from the competition because they did not present a proposal which was enough. The winner was pronounced on 24th of june 2005, 1.1 promille by Snøhetta.

The academy is situated in the south part of Store Lungegårdsvann and is planned to be completed in 2009. The site is 17 500sqm large and is situated in an old industrial area in the south part of Store Lungegårdsvann. The Academy is expected to be completed in 2009.

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00229/kunsth_gskolen_arki_229436a.jpg

http://www.arkitektnytt.no/images/crop/KHiB_1_1_Promille_hovedinngang.jpg

If you wish to see all the proposals from this competition, click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=4231220&postcount=69).

Nøstetårnene is back!

The two proposed Nøstetårnene was declines by the city council earlier this year. That proposal consist of two twins on 14 (59m) and 12 floors. But the developers didn't give up and delivered a new proposal in early octiber. That proposal contains two twins, the tallest with 13 floors, or 42m. The other tower is 12 floors tall, same height as the old proposal.

The buildings will still contain residential and some cultural/office area. And the latest news is that the City council actually approved the proposal on october 6th.

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00223/BTimg_bilde-3_1c991_223865b.jpg

At the same time as the project was approved it woke heavy opposition.

Nøstet og avgjørelser i lukkede rom
Bergens Tidene, October 23. (http://www.bt.no/meninger/debatt/article216084.ece)

Det var med sjokk og forferdelse at vi som bor på Nøstet leste at byrådet godkjenner bygging av høyhus i Nøstegaten. Planene om høyblokker i området har vært kjent i lengre tid, og nærmiljøets reaksjoner har hele tiden vært entydig negative.

For å få en faglig forankring på debatten, ble den såkalte Høyhusmeldingen lagt frem, der det er gjort et grundig arbeid for å tenke helhetlig på Bergen sentrum som arena for nybygg og fortetting. Konklusjonen var entydig: Høyhus var ikke en god løsning for Nøstet-området, ettersom de ville ligge i en relativt lav akse og ikke fungere harmonisk i det eksisterende bomiljøet. Til tross for disse negative tilbakemeldingene vedtar altså byrådet byggeplanene til Neumann. Saken er: Planene for Neumanns høyblokker vil innebære at et stort boområde fra Baneveien og Nøstegaten til Klosteret blir fratatt sol og lys. Til erstatning får de innsyn fra de nye husene. Sol- og lysforhold er en vesentlig trivselsfaktor i alle bomiljø, og bebyggel-sen vil selvfølgelig miste begge deler. Dette vil også ramme de mange små grøntanleggene som kommunen har anlagt i dette området. Våre små grønne lunger har betydd mye for stabiliteten i nærområdet, særlig med tanke på barnefamiliene, og beboernes engasjement viser igjen i at vi hjelper til med det daglige tilsynet og vedlikehold. Solforholdene er helt avgjø-rende for hvordan disse områdene fungerer, og skyggelegging vil gjøre også denne delen av bomiljøet mindre attraktiv.

Sol- og lysforhold er essensielle kvaliteter når folk bestemmer seg for hvor de vil bo permanent. Nøstet-området er under sterkt press fra boligspekulanter som kjøper opp husene til utleieformål. Det er klart at det skal være utleieboliger på Nøs-tet, men alle boligstrøk er avhengig av en stabil kjerne for å overleve og utnytte infrastrukturen i området, inklusiv skolene. Den eksisterende bebyggelsen som vil bli berørt er for en stor del små trehus og små leiegårder på 3-4 etasjer. Kvartalet mellom Baneveien og Nøstegaten, St. Hans-stredet, Ross-smauet og Knøsesmauet er kjente trekk i bybildet som vil bli rammet. Dette utgjør et bymiljø som Bergen ikke har råd til å tape. Hvis Neumann får lov til å bygge høyblokker i Nøste-gaten, er det ingen ting som hindrer at Strønen får gjøre det samme i Jonsvollskvartalet. Da er det etablert presedens for høyhus i strøket, så det er bare å søke om å få bygge 4-5 etasjer høyere enn man har tenkt å bygge. Da har man litt å gå på i forhandlingene med de bestemmende myndigheter.

Er det så ingenting positivt i planene? Området på nedsiden av Nøstegaten trenger revitalisering, og Neumanns planer in-neholder lokaler til kulturformål som vil fungere positivt i bymiljøet, blant annet lokaler til Teatergarasjen. Men dette kan ikke kompensere for at et helt bomiljø utsettes for den negative påvirkningen som utbyggingen vil innebære. Argumenter som har vært fremført er at for å få plass til kulturformål man må bygge i høyden for at det skal bli økonomi i prosjektet, uten at dette er blitt ytterligere begrunnet. Vi som er fastboende på Nøstet er ikke kulturfiendtlige – den gamle bebyggelsen er også kultur som vi bruker våre ressurser på å vedlikeholde og passe på, slik at kommende generasjoner også kan få glede av den. Det er tragisk om et kulturformål skal føre til uopprettelig skade på kulturminner i bygningsmassen.

Vi sitter igjen med følgende spørsmål som vi gjerne vil ha svar på: Hvordan kan byrådet snu i forhold til sin egen katego-riske avvisning i vår når ingenting er prinsipielt endret utenom en kosmetisk og rituell senking med noen få etasjer av den ene blokken (blokkene er på hhv. 12 og 14 etasjer – bare den siste er senket). Er det et eksempel på at noen har «snakket med hverandre i de lukkede rom?» På denne bakgrunnen håper jeg at kommunen snur i denne saken, og at utbyggingen av Nøstegaten kan skje i samsvar med anbefalinger fra Høyhusmeldingen og med hensyntagen til nærmiljøet.
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This inhabitant sais they (people living in the nabout area to the project) was shocked when they read about the project. The high-rises will destroy their view to the fjord, and become a wall between them and the sunlight. The proposal of "high-rise area" in Bergen sais that this area is not suitable for high-rises with a good reason.

Entrepreneurs Larsen, Atterås og Brosvik (LAB) will now build the extension of Brann stadium. Veidekke, wich was originally supposed to build it, said some weeks ago that they didn't want to build it for the 120 million NOK they were supposed to get for it.

Architects: Vaardal-Lunde
http://bygg.no/ImageResizeCache/28b37ebb3fbf5f943c7b9d000f08b571.jpg

http://bygg.no/news/newsshow.asp?AreaID=2&NewsID=16374

I still want them to resurrect this project. :(

http://home.online.no/~runness/ch/images/Bergen/Bergen%20Stadion%20Hoyhus.jpg

^^ :omg: Hell, yeah!! That looks fine!

I adore these towers! :bow:
And deep down in my heart i hope that they will be built in Klaipeda :D

Bridge over Damsgårdssundet

7 architects has presented their proposal to the new walking bridge over Damsgårdssundet in downtown Bergen. The bridge will become a landmark, and it will need to be opened someimes for boat traffic.

Architect firms involved:
HLM arkitektur og plan (Norway)
ØKAW AS Arkitekter MNAL (Norway)
KHR arkitekter AS (Denmark)
Dissing + Weitling arkitekter (Denmark)
4AD (Italy)
Spence Associates (UK)
Skidmore Owings and Merrill (USA)

Proposal 1)
http://www.bergen.kommune.no/planavdelingen_/ekstern/01_B550.jpg

Proposal 2)
http://www.bergen.kommune.no/planavdelingen_/ekstern/02_550.jpg

Proposal 3)
http://www.bergen.kommune.no/planavdelingen_/ekstern/03_550.jpg

Proposal 4)
http://www.bergen.kommune.no/planavdelingen_/ekstern/04_C_550.jpg

Proposal 5)
http://www.bergen.kommune.no/planavdelingen_/ekstern/05_B_550.jpg

Proposal 6)
http://www.bergen.kommune.no/planavdelingen_/ekstern/plan_z_550.JPG

Proposal 7)
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2442/bro13og.jpg

I like #7. But I think it is too daring (not to mention too tall!) for Bergen city council. My guess is that they will go with #1. That looks quite good too.

Porposal 1, 5 and 7 would be my favorites, but i guess proposal 1 would be in the city councils favor. Its bold, but not too bold, perfect for what Bergen is looking for.

The newest high-rise in Bergen is still DnB Bygget from 1982, even though there has been tens of suggestions. This summer Ørnen was approved and the apartments was put out on sale, and the building made a huge success, and after a few months 82 out of 86 apartments was sold. However, the resistance against the high-rise has now put the project on hold, and the buyers of the apartments is given back their paied deposit on 100 000NOK.

«Ørnen» har ikke landet

Utbyggerne bak det omstridte høyhus-prosjektet «Ørnen» på Vestre Strømkai har ikke skrinlagt planene, selv om alle kjøperne nå får refundert sine innbetalte depositum på 100.000 kroner.

Det var inngått kjøpsavtaler for 82 av de 86 leilighetene i bygget da «Ørnen» krasjlandet i høst.

Fylkesmannen i Hordaland sa da nei til det 12 etasjes kombinerte bolig- og næringsbygget etter at et flertall av byutviklingspolitikerne hadde gitt grønt lys. Sivilombudsmannen avviste senere å behandle klagen fra utbyggerne.

- Vi vil snart søke om reguleringsendring for prosjektet, opplyser prosjektutvikler Erik Hammer i Ørnen Eiendom AS. Veidekke Eiendom og Ørnen Fabrikker AS står bak byggeplanene.

Han sier de på ingen måte har gitt opp prosjektet, selv om Fylkesmannen satte foten ned.

- Vi hadde et politisk vedtak, som altså byråkratiet spente beina under. Nå skal vi gjennomføre en mer omfattende utredning og legge frem byggesak, og håper at det politiske flertallet opprettholder sin støtte til planene, sier Hammer.

Han opplyser også at alle interesserte kjøpere som betalte inn 100.000 kroner i håndpenger, nå blir fristilt fra alle forpliktelser og rettigheter. Skulle Ørnen-prosjektet gjenoppstå, blir det førstemann til møllen også neste gang boligene legges ut for salg.
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Ørnen

Status: On hold
Construction: (August 2005 - April 2007)
Architect: Bjerk og Bjørge AS
Homepage: www.ornen.no/ (http://www.ornen.no/)

Ørnen is a 12 story tall residential building, situated in downtown Bergen, close to Bergens tallest building, DNB Bygget. The building was approved, and construction was supose to start in august 2005, but the project has now been put on hold.

Click on image to enlarge.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/rnen1small.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6416/rnen12vn.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/rnen2small.jpg (http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/6407/rnen25tg.jpg)
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/8283/rnen48an.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/rnen3small.jpg (http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/9012/rnen39tc.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/rnen5small.jpg (http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/8085/rnen50ko.jpg)

Danish KHR arkitekter AS in cooperation with Norwegian Plan Z woin the competition of a new walking bridge across Damsgårdssundet in downtown Bergen.

Architect firms involved:
HLM arkitektur og plan (Norway)
ØKAW AS Arkitekter MNAL (Norway)
KHR arkitekter AS and Plan Z (Denmark/Norway)
Dissing + Weitling arkitekter (Denmark)
4AD (Italy)
Spence Associates (UK)
Skidmore Owings and Merrill (USA)

Europan 8: Bergen

The winner of Europan 8 in Bergen was Danish Lars Bendrup & Co. Europan 8 is a large Europan architectural competition, and Norway with 5 sites in 5 different cities. One of them was Bergen, the others was Stavanger, Hamar, Kristiansand and Kirkenes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/EuropanBergen2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/EuropanBergen1.jpg

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Tallest in Bergen

A unique high-rise building has been proposed in Bergen. The tower will become Bergen's tallest high-rise building and will function as apartments and energy producer. The building will be 22 story tall, and situated next to the new Bergen National Academy of the Arts Center. They originally planned 3 low rise apartment building here, but architects has proposed a thin and tall high-rise building and two lower office and apartment buildings. That way the high-rise will give miminal of shadows sais the architect.

A normal apartment in Norway has a yearly consumption on 150 kWh each square meters. This high-rise will produce 81 kWh each square meters its own, which means that over half of the yearly consumption of energy will be self produced. This is unique sais the architect, and no other apartment building or office building in the world have manage it yet. The energy will come from solar-catchers around the building and with some other solutions.

The politicians are positive to the proposal, but many critizise it to be way to tall, even though the tower is situated in a new district across the fjord from downtown Bergen, and is not in a are of greater residentials or historic building area.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/MllendalTrn1.jpg
>> Location map here (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/MllendalTrnkart.jpg)

Awesome. Nobody can say no to a tower like that!!(well, nothing surprises me anymore)

Awesome. Nobody can say no to a tower like that!!(well, nothing surprises me anymore)

Yeah, i think this proposal is really great, and the location should not bother anybody when its not near downtown nor any residential areas. The tower will become a really good signal tower to this new small district which will be a attractive area, especially with Snøhetta's Art Center next to the high-rise. You can see the "tail" of the Art Center in the render of the high-rise.

The politicians are positive to the proposal, but many critizise it to be way to tall, even though the tower is situated in a new district across the fjord from downtown Bergen, and is not in a are of greater residentials or historic building area.

There we are. Even if politicians are positive now, they will change soon, because the NIMBYs (or in this case NIABYs) will keep whining and complaining until they cave in. This shows so clearly how "historical" and "fitting" is just substitute arguments, what they really try to convey is their deep envy towards anything that seems nicer than what they have themselves.

If people there get the anti-highrise machinery started over this; perheps it's time for our new pro-highrise lobby to write a few letters of support? :cheers:

There we are. Even if politicians are positive now, they will change soon, because the NIMBYs (or in this case NIABYs) will keep whining and complaining until they cave in. This shows so clearly how "historical" and "fitting" is just substitute arguments, what they really try to convey is their deep envy towards anything that seems nicer than what they have themselves.

If people there get the anti-highrise machinery started over this; perheps it's time for our new pro-highrise lobby to write a few letters of support? :cheers:

Yes, this building will meet heavy opposition. The NIMBYS are strong in Bergen as well as Trondheim, and they can easily say the whole nabourhood is against the high-rise and the politicians belivning it, as they did during Horisont's process in Trondheim. The good thing is that this isn't in the downtown area, but if they are going to follow the proposed deal about which areas is high-rise friendly there will never be a high-rise there, nor any other high-rise buildings over 15 floors in Bergen. Another good thing is that the bruilding is very energy efficient, something modern and something they need.

>> Here is a map where the high-rise has been proposed.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/MllendalTrnkart.jpg

Looks more urban on that map than on the render.... So much so, I doubt it will pass. I think the ISAF needs to burst into action. ;)

Looks more urban on that map than on the render.... So much so, I doubt it will pass. I think the ISAF needs to burst into action. ;)

Yeah it does look more urban that in the image. The hills behind Møllendal, which is a old industrial district, is steep with residential houses and buildings climbing up the hill as you can see on the image below. The NIMBYS will probably recruit a lot of nabour which is against this high-rise, so ISAF need to take action here! ;)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Areal1x1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Reguleringsplankart1x1kopi.jpg

Bergen National Academy of the Arts
Some renderings of the Bergen National Academy of the Arts by Snøhetta.
http://www.snoarc.no/media/project_images/khib/large_khib5.jpg

http://www.snoarc.no/media/project_images/khib/large_khib_2.jpg

http://www.arkitektnytt.no/images/crop/KHiB_1_1_Promille_hovedinngang.jpg

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Btw, here is a image of what is originally planned here, sp the high-rise is an alternative, the architects call's it "tight and massive":
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00225/BTimg_19358__Bolige_225895b.jpg

I wonder what will be the nicest, 22 story tall and slim high-rise or some "tight and massive" 5 story tall residential buildings? :|

Nonneseterkvartalet

Nonneseterkvartalet was proposed by Entra Eiendom 2 years ago. They proposed a 21 story/ 70m tall office building in downtown Bergen. They were met by resistance very soon, so four proposals has been presented:

Alternative 1:
No construction, so the plot stay as a parking lot, or a new architectural competition is been arranged.

Alternative 2:
To built this plot to a terminal for busses and other official transport.

Alternative 3:
A 10 story tall office building, 14 500sqm (BTA). This building will be around the height for what the council recommend for this area, +35.6m and 10 stories. The building will be 39.5m tall.

Alternative 4:
A 15 story tall office building, 19 000sqm (BTA). This is the main proposal, but its taller than what the council recommend. The tower will be 57.5m, taller then the recommended height.

Images:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4021/nonneseterkvartalet41di.jpg
Image of alternative 3.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2898/nonneseterkvartalet50td.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3395/nonneseterkvartalet31ad.jpg
Image of alternative 4.

Alternative 3 makes me puke. But alternative 4 isn't much better, the NIMBYS will gain of much popularity if this high-rise building will be built, because its boxy, dull and ugly. So i hope they choose Alternative 1, and hopefully we see a new architect competition in a few years.

I guess we in the ISAF force will just stay quite, and let the NIMBYS handle this one so it don't get built, sorry but we can manage without that high-rise! :D And if it gets built its going to be the tallest in Bergen.

Hello I am new here :)...

Hello I am new here :)...

I assume you're the Bergenser from ssp? ;)

yes..

yes..

Welcome to ssc btw! And you should post your ssp diagrams in our S&B diagram thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=101523)!

orginally posted by Qazaq
Strong opinions against the new high-rise buildings in Bergen...?

I have now read that link and I was NOT suprised :wallbash:
when shall the "poor old" Bergen extremist learn... I am shure it was people like them that stopped the good looking proposal version of Nonneseter kvartalet (the orginal version of 70 metres) and look what they have done?! all they have got is a new proposal that is lower than the orginal version and much uglier... all she want is that "Bergen shall be like it always has been :blahblah:" personally I have got sick and tired of Bergen`s booring building style. HELLO we want some new buildings! the last thing I wanna see buildt in Bergen city now is old booring buildings, we alrady have got more than enought of them, the thing we need now is something new and high. I hate when I read about people that NEVER wants to try new building styles.

Bergen Rådhus isn`t Bergen`s most beutiful building, but if they had constructed it more close to the DnB bygget, maybe it could have "looked better"
ideas like her`s are the thing in Bergen that are slowing down the construction`s in Bergen :ohno: and on top of that its plenty of people like her in Bergen, they have stopped many good looking project....

1. Nygårdstangen hotel
2. Ørnen
3. Nye Brann stadium towers (They don`t know Bergen if they belived in that)
and many more..... :down:

oh how nice the Bergen skyline could look if those good looking buildings would be aproved... :) ....

its just a dream...... its sad that good looking projects are beeing canseled because the "building style dosen`t mach"

well lets hope things will change with the years ;)

Ladies(if any) and Gentlemen. I belive we have found ourself a new member to ISAF(International Skyline Action Force), residing in Bergen, or more commonly known as a hole of NIMBYs..Like the rest of our fine country:)

I have now read that link and I was NOT suprised :wallbash:
when shall the "poor old" Bergen extremist learn... I am shure it was people like them that stopped the good looking proposal version of Nonneseter kvartalet (the orginal version of 70 metres) and look what they have done?! all they have got is a new proposal that is lower than the orginal version and much uglier... all she want is that "Bergen shall be like it always has been :blahblah:" personally I have got sick and tired of Bergen`s booring building style. HELLO we want some new buildings! the last thing I wanna see buildt in Bergen city now is old booring buildings, we alrady have got more than enought of them, the thing we need now is something new and high. I hate when I read about people that NEVER wants to try new building styles.

Bergen Rådhus isn`t Bergen`s most beutiful building, but if they had constructed it more close to the DnB bygget, maybe it could have "looked better"
ideas like her`s are the thing in Bergen that are slowing down the construction`s in Bergen :ohno: and on top of that its plenty of people like her in Bergen, they have stopped many good looking project....

1. Nygårdstangen hotel
2. Ørnen
3. Nye Brann stadium towers (They don`t know Bergen if they belived in that)
and many more..... :down:

oh how nice the Bergen skyline could look if those good looking buildings would be aproved... :) ....

its just a dream...... its sad that good looking projects are beeing canseled because the "building style dosen`t mach"

well lets hope things will change with the years ;)

Yes, Nygårdstangen, Nonneseterkvartalet and the area around DNB Tower is exellent for a modern and spectacular skyline. They can leave the historic areas along, they are nice as they are, but there are huge areas of post WWII buildings which should really be fixed, we should dare more to make high-rises popular and famous!

Ladies(if any) and Gentlemen. I belive we have found ourself a new member to ISAF(International Skyline Action Force), residing in Bergen, or more commonly known as a hole of NIMBYs..Like the rest of our fine country :)

Yeah, good to know there are somebody tired of NIMBY's wanting 2-7 story tall flat, huge and boxy office or residential buildings all around Bergen and the other Norwegian cities!

Something that really upsets me is this. You might remember a proposal of two new high-rise buildings in Bergen in 2004, which was declined due to its height, which was 59m. Then last year they tried again with a 42m tall tower, but was also declined due to its height. Now they have approved the last suggestion from the developers, watch below:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Approved.jpg

The height limit is 27m for this area called Nøstet.

Ørnen is back

Its been 10 months since the the 12 story approved residential building was put on hold after counsel director in Bergen cancelled the project. 86 apartments was sold, but suddenly everything stopped.

The project is now back, with the same tower, but with a 8 story building added, and a new street and park. 21 apartments has been added to the 12 story tall tower.

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00262/BTimg_674324_rnenp__262482e.jpg

New harbour and skyscrapers

The NCC Anlegg Vest contractor Terje Johan Skjelbred has presented a little vision for the new cruise harbour in Bergen. The new harbour will have a capacity of 10-12 cruise ships at one time. The harbous will also have two high-rise buildings. As presented on his drawning some 150m tall, right across the street of Fantoft Stavechurch. He proposes to move the stave church to the north of the part and rebuilt replicas of the old churchest in the park area next to the harbour.

For interested who understand Norwegian read the article here (http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article310471.ece).

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00292/Uten_navn-1_1ef9157_292123b.jpg

New harbour and skyscrapers

The NCC Anlegg Vest contractor Terje Johan Skjelbred has presented a little vision for the new cruise harbour in Bergen. The new harbour will have a capacity of 10-12 cruise ships at one time. The harbous will also have two high-rise buildings. As presented on his drawning some 150m tall, right across the street of Fantoft Stavechurch. He proposes to move the stave church to the north of the part and rebuilt replicas of the old churchest in the park area next to the harbour.

For interested who understand Norwegian read the article here (http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article310471.ece).

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00292/Uten_navn-1_1ef9157_292123b.jpg
Right. :lol: And by 2010 we'll have FTL travel, pigs will be flying and the ayatollahs of Iran will be starring in erotic pictures.

The towers look nice though...

PS On the bottom of the pic there is a dual-hull speedboat the size of a cruiseship. I want one of those...

Lovely! But kinda unreal... ;)

Interesting link: development link (http://www.bergen.kommune.no/planavdelingen_/ekstern/kunngjoringer.html#vedtatt)

Bergen skyline?:

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2006/hyhuspanoramazl4.jpg

Highrises in the(maybe) future skyline:

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9650/airview1sg7.jpg

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8475/airview2vq7.jpg

some Ørnen renderings:

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/702/rnen1sa9.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1235/rnen2af2.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8098/rnen3pb7.jpg

Bergen skyline:

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7981/rnen4jg9.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5643/rnen5ht5.jpg

I just hope Nonneseterkvartalet and Ørnen get buildt!

Ah, thanks for the renderings mate! I hope they get approved as well, i have nothing against Ørnen, such a shame they made a go with that 27m limit.

And out of the cote rendering i see Ørnen is 41.9m (~42m) tall!

I am born in Bergen and have lived much of my life there, but the last 12 years i have been living in Stavanger. What i find weird is that people and politicians in this small city with only a population of 112.000 is much more positive to new and tall buildings than Bergen or Oslo. No one is crying here for the tall building projects except some old people in self written small articles in the newspaper maybe. Compare that to Bergen or Oslo where it makes front page news :) .

The third tallest building (100m) in Norway Under Construction in Forus, Stavanger. Will be finish 2010.

http://web3.aftenbladet.no/multimedia/archive/00105/cci-Aft-20051208-1-_105535b.jpg

Is it really under construction??! Great news:)

Under Construction?

I didn't even know it had really been approved yet!

Do you have some construction photos vadmyra?

Btw, better to post the things about Stavanger in their thread here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=176702). :)

Construction started today!

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00291/Entra_Eiendom_Nonne_291302c.jpg

http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/ibergen/article860012.ece

^ yep, have heard about that! It's great! :)
but it seems like they have dropped some floors. :(
from 15 then to 14 and now 13.
but better than nothing, and I am glad this FINALLY became u/c
My school is very close.. so I will follow this project.

Great Bergenser! Looking forward for some construction updates:)

I took a short visit after school, it's not much but atleast they have started to work on the fundamention/ground... To bad it was raining, so I have no images yet. :(
but I have plans of taking some soon. :)

EDIT: BTW here is a link to the official u/c link at SSP (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=123467)

I took a trip to downtown today! :)
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6943/ix8137gw4.jpg

More updates at SSP (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=123467)

Yey! finnaly an update! Here are some new shots from 28 January 2007 :)

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6864/ix8151ws4.jpg

more shots here (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2597468#post2597468)

Looks like a 70s hospital.

The third tallest building (100m) in Norway Under Construction in Forus, Stavanger. Will be finish 2010.

4 years of construction?? What is wrong with them? It could be build 1,5 years...
Btw, the tower looks nice ;)

KHIB - Kunsthøgskolen i Bergen

New renderings of the National Academy of Arts in Bergen has been released by the developer of the project, Statsbygg. The renderings is the architects work, from Snøhetta AS.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Kunsthgskolen1small.jpg
> Enlarge (3000 pixels x 1800 pixels | 4.6Mb) (http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/KHiBPerspDag.jpg)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Kunsthgskolen2small.jpg
> Enlarge (3000 pixels x 1800 pixels | 3.1Mb) (http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/KHiBPerspNatt.jpg)

Great, I like it a lot!

I love Snøhetta, they've done great things for Norwegian architecture

I feel sorry for Bergen that all these highrises were cancelled, but it is a nice town anyway.

Today it's finnaly hope! :D

bt.no (http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article368301.ece)

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00338/699086__H_YHUS_-_OP_338499b.jpg

The 50 meter and 22 floors tall highrise on Mølleneset is closer to beeing approved than ever. The owner Svein Kjelstrup Olsen is very optimistic right now! :)

^ Really good news! This project was so close to be canceled a few months back, now everything has turned to the good!

KHIB - Kunsthøgskolen i Bergen

New renderings of the National Academy of Arts in Bergen has been released by the developer of the project, Statsbygg. The renderings is the architects work, from Snøhetta AS.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Kunsthgskolen1small.jpg
> Enlarge (3000 pixels x 1800 pixels | 4.6Mb) (http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/KHiBPerspDag.jpg)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Kunsthgskolen2small.jpg
> Enlarge (3000 pixels x 1800 pixels | 3.1Mb) (http://www.statsbygg.no/aktuelt/KHiBPerspNatt.jpg)


Norway seems the leader in scandinavian (and baltic) architecture in this century.

I kind of agree with the christian's party, who claims that two signal-buildings of that calibre, probably shouldn't be that close to each other. They really look as they are fighting for the attention of people passing.

The Kunsthøgskolen looks wonderful in the rendering!

I kind of agree with the christian's party, who claims that two signal-buildings of that calibre, probably shouldn't be that close to each other. They really look as they are fighting for the attention of people passing.
I disagree. The more "signal buildings" (a word that seems to have settled in our language) a city has the better. The reason for that is that people have different taste. The more of them you have, the higher the probability that there is something there that you like. The fundamental problem of always - FUCKING ALWAYS!!!! :bleep: having to create a problem out of design, the lesson for anyone wishing to build anything is to keep it simple, and make it as faceless and bland as possible.

From the renders it seems like a beautiful building, but not so odd that it will kill everything that is close to it.

Spectacular. I am amazed

NIMBYS strikes again. :( BT (http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article374439.ece?start=2)

http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00341/mollenes2_b_91ceek1_341625c.jpg

This building will most likely not be buildt... Goodbye Mølleneset-Highrise :ohno:

^^ What?! Damn nimbys, and damn Gunnar Staalesen, he is a stupid stupid man..:bash:

I am so tired with the argument that "We have never had highrises here before, so we can`t build high in the future". The nimbys are enemies of the future!

^ Terrible news indeed, such a modern and unique high-rise in Mølleneset would be really amazing, shame they decline it and replace it with three 5 story tall residential terraced blocks which will certainly hurt the National Academy of Arts just as much as the high-rise building.

I suppose the new Bybanen light rail in Bergen has been presented already, so I guess there is no need for a longer introduction...

Groundwork contracts for around a billion Norwegian Crowns has been signed with four construction companies (Betonmast, NCC, Skanska and Fyllingen Maskinstasjon) for the first line between downtown Bergen and the southern suburb of Nestun. Esimated completion of this part of the project is in 2009
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/bybane_nesttun_NYORTO.jpg

The next phase will extend the line futher out to the Flesland airport.

When finished, the network will look like this (red line is the ligh rail)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/ryggradbybane_stor.jpg

The design for stations, trains, uniforms etc. are chosen, and can be viewed here (http://www.bybane.no/Banen_vaar.pdf) (4 mb file)

The terminus in downtown will look like this:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/bybanestasjon.jpg

Sandviken! A proposed 20 floor building ;P http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00411/h_yblokk_sandviken_411148e.jpg
Lokal newspaper:http://www.bt.no/lokalt/article506853.ece

Haha! High-rises in Bergen!

What's probabilty here? 0-1 percent?

Saying no to Mølleneset i can't possibly imagine them saying yes to this one =P

At Damsgårdssundet, Bob has proposed a 12 floor Wooden high-rise. If build it will be the first wooden high-rise in the world! Topping the 10 floor Växsjö silo. Love the thinking! The townplan opens up for simple towers to be build in this location.
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00377/522970__Vil_byggja__377458b.jpg
http://www.byggskolen.no/fullstory.aspx?m=33&amid=7870

The building will be a next to these one:
http://www.bobmegleren.no/bilder/bobweb/ternen690.jpg
http://www.damsgardssundet.no/
This cool bridge is going also going to be build in the area.
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00415/Plan_Z_bilde1_65a77_415400e.jpg
Whole area is planned to be finished by 2012.

Yay to wooden highrises, hopefully this one will have a chance to get built. The nabour Damsgardssunde residentials is a very fine project too!

The wooden highrise got a good design :)

Ørnen will probably be built;) It's approved by Bergen development comity.
http://multimedia.api.no/www.ba.no/dynamic/01831/_rnen-510_1831288m.jpg
http://www.ba.no/nyheter/article3470408.ece

Developpers want to fill in parts of Solheimsvika and build Hotel, offices and an exposition-hall with a 9 floor and 8 floor tower:
http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00428/493688__Solheimsvik_428788b.jpg
http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article545252.ece

Ørnen will probably be built;) It's approved by Bergen development comity.

Approved for the third time, will it go up this time, or will they stop it the day they start the digging and all the apartments is sold as last time??

Hopefully someone learns from their mistakes;)

Hopefully someone learns from their mistakes;)

In Bergen, never...

Any new projects in Bergen soon? Centrum is completly nice already, but Nestun dont have som many old buildings to save, so there I hope they will buildt some highrises soon. I Think the politians is cowards, everything over 8 floors get stopped because its "to high". Its been many suggestions for highrises in Bergen but noone get build...

wooden highrise? Imagine that think catching fire.

I suppose the new Bybanen light rail in Bergen has been presented already, so I guess there is no need for a longer introduction...

Groundwork contracts for around a billion Norwegian Crowns has been signed with four construction companies (Betonmast, NCC, Skanska and Fyllingen Maskinstasjon) for the first line between downtown Bergen and the southern suburb of Nestun. Esimated completion of this part of the project is in 2009
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/bybane_nesttun_NYORTO.jpg

The next phase will extend the line futher out to the Flesland airport.

When finished, the network will look like this (red line is the ligh rail)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/ryggradbybane_stor.jpg

The design for stations, trains, uniforms etc. are chosen, and can be viewed here (http://www.bybane.no/Banen_vaar.pdf) (4 mb file)

The terminus in downtown will look like this:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/kjetilbalog/SCC/bybanestasjon.jpg

Any updates on this? When is the airport segment expected to be completed? I've always felt that easy airport rail connections into different cities are extremely important and should be prioritized.

Regarding wooden high-rise and fire, large massive wood elements is actually the safer material than more traditional ones regarding fire... =) At temperatures when steel and concrete melts, it slowly turns into coal after several hours... ;P Thin wooden boards burn like hell, but the fater they get, the better fire protection...

Some parts of the track is already ready by now like here in the pictures by bygarasjen, but as a whole, first building step will not be finished untill the start of 2010.
You can see the progress on this page: http://www.bybane.no/index.cfm?id=170874
http://www.bybanen.no/bilder/11.%20august%20071.jpg

Don't know when it will be finished to the airport, next step is not all the way to the airport, only to Rådal - they hope construction will start imediatly after first step is ready, maybe we will see it finished to the airport sometime before 2016 if we are lucky with the political climate.. ;P

Nesttun:
http://www.bybanen.no/bilder/Illustrasjon%20Nesttun%2018%20januar%202008.jpeg

Oh so long :(

Better late than never though!

4 commies at Danmarksplass will get a facelift, they will be ready in 6 months time:
Old:
http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.ba.no/m/02128/1220528196042_dplass3_2128113m.jpg
New:
http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.ba.no/m/01186/1174736187725_dplass_1186867m.jpg
http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.ba.no/m/01186/1174735771391_dplass-versj2_1186856m.jpg
http://www.ba.no/nyheter/article2673670.ece
http://www.ba.no/nyheter/article2673670.ece

4 commies at Danmarksplass will get a facelift, they will be ready in 6 months time:
Old:
http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.ba.no/m/02128/1220528196042_dplass3_2128113m.jpg
New:
http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.ba.no/m/01186/1174736187725_dplass_1186867m.jpg
http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.ba.no/m/01186/1174735771391_dplass-versj2_1186856m.jpg
http://www.ba.no/nyheter/article2673670.ece
http://www.ba.no/nyheter/article2673670.ece

It's great that they're refurnishing old commieblocks, but I really think they could do a better job than that. The new version looks like a boring 80's roadside hotel.

Another Highrise for the skyline?;P
This is where Wigangårdens owner pictures a high-rise hotell with a height of 50 meters:
Right next to Bergens tallest buildings.
http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.ba.no/m/02126/1220475456719_Wigang_2126767m.jpg
http://www.ba.no/nyheter/article3762855.ece

Speaking of wood and fire, how much was destroyed yesterday? DN is saying that this was a national tragedy.

Absolutly everything of mega-artist Stig-van-Eijks equipment was destroyed in the fire. I'm guessing this was the national tragedy.

Ulfl3vW5l0k

:lol:

Seriously though, I think the worst about that fire was that someone lived in the building without the authorities(and also the fire-departement) knowing about it.

Some photos of the new Nonneseter, 14 floors:
http://www.entraeiendom.no/upload/Prosjekter/Nonneseter/17.05.08_stor2.JPG
http://www.entraeiendom.no/upload/Prosjekter/Nonneseter/17.05.08_stor1.JPG
http://www.entraeiendom.no/upload/Prosjekter/Nonneseter/17.05.08_stor3.JPG
Photos are from entraeiendom.no

http://www.ba.no/nyheter/article792737.ece Found this interesting article when i searched round on google :D

Even the article is from 2003, do any one something more about it? Like the proposal you see on the picture!

^^ A old masterplan development project, won by a new local Bergen team 3RW Arkitekter. You can see a pdf version of the winning design here, http://www.3rw.no/Urban%20Store%20Lungegaardsvann.pdf.

But that is a masterplan development, won't be completed before 2020 or something. Snøhetta's "KHIB - Kunsthøgskolen i Bergen" (Image 1 (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/Kunsthgskolen1small.jpg)) Can see has a final design and is supose to get built, and a new fire station (images (http://www.arkitektur.no/?nid=115127&lcid=1044)) was completed last year which goes udner this masterplan. A highrise building (a very fine one) was rejected last year, and replaced by some typical Norwegian 6 floor tall residential blocks. :(

Statium will most likely not be built, since they have upgraded Brann Stadion instead (cheaper and uglier). I guess we will see a lot of smaller signle projects popping up over the years to come, though it will look very different from the masterplan design.

disappointing.... Liked the proposal where they build over "store lungegårdsvann..."

Btw: Do you have some more details about the project? How many apprtments and stuff like that, more pictures?

https://www.bergen.kommune.no/tema/politikk?articleId=37058&artSectionId=791
A new stop for the citytram in "paradis" and will be developed as a new "knutepunkt.

http://www3.bergen.kommune.no/bksak/utv_caseinfo.asp?utvalg=BR2&caseno=53681&dayno=1057&Year=2009-2-18&db_source=1 See details in the pdf document.

"Området bør utvikles til bymessig bebyggelse
med kvartalsstruktur. Første etasje skal ha høyere
etasjehøyde og publikumsrettet funksjon.
Bebyggelsen skal ha hovedfasade mot offentlig
vei."

http://www.bt.no/lokalt/hordaland/article791208.ece
A new harbour on Flesland can make the harbour areas in centrum free for new deveopments :)

http://arkitekturnytt.no/2008/12/planer-for-bringer-bergen-nrmere-vannet.html
Probably old news? But still good news. Think it looks and sounds very good

http://www.bt.no/na24/article651040.ece Looks good too...

Only in Bergen:- Før har vi snakket om signalbygg. I denne planen ønsker vi å innføre begrepet signalbyrom, sier seniorarkitekt Stein Furru.

:lol:

http://arkitekturnytt.no/2008/12/planer-for-bringer-bergen-nrmere-vannet.html
Probably old news? But still good news. Think it looks and sounds very good


Yes old news :P, but i say it looks good, as long as its urban, dense and nice with buildings between 5-10 floors between these "byrom" and the channel. Put all of those trafficated roads below ground, same with parking. Taller buildings fits fine up towards DNB Nor.

Only in Bergen:
innføre begrepet signalbyrom
:lol:

Well true, flatten all of downtown Bergen and grow grass there and you have one heck of a signal-city-space! It will become very famous!

Updates from the Light Rail:

http://fotoblogg.bybanen.no/-/sandbox/show/39806_bybanen-i-bergen-en-fotoblogg

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/180382_h91110c41a7131e8686a6.jpeg

http://media1.origo.no/-/cache/image/738394_h5501165059be87cedbca_539x.jpeg

http://media1.origo.no/-/cache/image/738112_hf46f3ecd3ee0703c5c8f_539x.jpeg

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/738399_h609904d7eadebb6cf392_539x.jpeg

http://media1.origo.no/-/cache/image/738400_hacfdd0c1ef61cf876783_539x.jpeg

http://media1.origo.no/-/cache/image/743370_h98a45199e8a9a143ac01_539x.jpeg

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/744692_h1d95a5d516053ebb9a37_539x.jpeg

http://media1.origo.no/-/cache/image/744697_h63c581e24f151a85c90b_539x.jpeg

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/744731_h72eb6acc0c0ae4011d91_539x.jpeg

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/744734_h54262aace1f408dcc39b_539x.jpeg

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/750331_hb30517a601ebdbb6c2bd_539x.jpeg

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/750946_h704fc76e9c503e39f07f_539x.jpeg

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/750954_hbfb7815de4402a0215b9_539x.jpeg

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/750961_h63a5427089f98da8481a_539x.jpeg

http://media3.origo.no/-/cache/image/754283_hc822d654741e420b3b42_539x.jpeg

^^ This is so great for Bergen! Love it :cheers:

Looks nice yes
----
http://www.ba.no/nyheter/politikk/article4175406.ece The politicans most be very stupid if they decide to use Dokken and not Flesland !

LANG TID: Han mener de som er for en slik løsning like gjerne kan gå ut og si at de ikke vil Bergen skal vokse som by.

– Diskusjonen går jo på at man vil skape noe nytt her, byen og havnen skal vokse. Konsekvensen av et slikt forslag blir jo å rive hele Nøstet når havnen etter hvert skal utvides, sier Rygg og legger til..

Looks nice yes
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http://www.ba.no/nyheter/politikk/article4175406.ece The politicans most be very stupid if they decide to use Dokken and not Flesland !

LANG TID: Han mener de som er for en slik løsning like gjerne kan gå ut og si at de ikke vil Bergen skal vokse som by.

– Diskusjonen går jo på at man vil skape noe nytt her, byen og havnen skal vokse. Konsekvensen av et slikt forslag blir jo å rive hele Nøstet når havnen etter hvert skal utvides, sier Rygg og legger til..

http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.ba.no/m/02469/1236609360000_Gulating_lagmansre_2469992m.jpg

http://gfx.api.no/image-versions/www.ba.no/m/02469/1236608549000_Gulating_lagmannsr_2469967m.gif

Gulating lagmannsrett starts construction this summer, and will be ready by 2011:
http://www.ba.no/nyheter/article4180505.ece

Bergen will have to increase tolls to continue building of Western Ringroad and the Lrt:

http://www.bergensprogrammet.no/mobilitetsuken/Ringveg-Vest--kart-lite.jpg

http://www3.bergen.kommune.no/bybane/bybanen_gml/bybanesystemet_20040125__25prosent.jpg

http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article817182.ece

Looks great! Do you know the travelling time/distances from the ends? Evt. to compare it to Oslos tramways

http://www3.bergen.kommune.no/bybane_/ekstern/bybanen_gml/rutetabell_20030923.jpg

Average speed Byparken - Nesttun:
26,6 km/h for local.
35 km/h for express.

Compared to
Oslotrikken: 18km/h - no shock there, it's almost faster to walk down Storgata and Grensen than take the tram...
T-banen: 25km/h (?) - Can it really be that slow?

T-banen goes faster than 25 ;) I guess 60 km/h or something...

^^ Not as average speed. Maybe at max speed, but with stops the t-bane is slower. From my stop to Jernbanetorget it takes 15 min, a distance of 7,5 km. That means 30 km/h in average speed.

Not when you include the stops;) For example Majorstua-Helsfyr is 6km and takes 12 minutes. So that's an average speed of 30 km/h on that stretch.

Edit: I see I was abit late in my response;)

^^ but our numbers matched very good!

I realised it was a lot slower than Paris metro - where you really have to hold on to your stuff;D But according to Wikipedia it has 35 km/h average speed. Now when you see it that way, Bergen Lrt will be very fast!

Ps. Copenhagen metro: 40 km/h... (Wiki)

Ahh, ofc, didnt thought about that. Thought he ment max speed. In that case Bergens trams speed seems good.

Joining this magnificent discussion, all of the trains on T-banen in Oslo have 70 km/h as max speed, except some of the weird ones going up Frognerseteren, that can go up to 100...

That makes sense, put the fastest once on the slowest line;D When do they ever reach 70 km/h... Only Majorstuen - Nationaltheateret... ?

Don't think they go that fast anywhere... The stretch between Major/National is so old and badly designed, I guess 70 would be to apply for a derail. Try to notice how much you get thrown from side to side when going eastwards right after Major station.. Imagine 70!

If I remember correctly, the new trams also have 70km/h as a maximum speed. And they actually drive in that speed a little while on the tram towards Nordstrand, after passing Ekeberg-restaurant. A unique experience in a Oslo public transport context. But enough about that, this thread is about Bergen. These lightrail plans for Bergen is great! I'm going to Bergen this summer, and it will be interesting to see the progress with my own eyes.

When I was there last summer there were chaos, especially by the city hall, so let us hope things are getting better!

Atleast they have finished work on the bridge over Strømmen, but there's still a lot of work on other parts of the line. Will be nice to have a real light-rail, and those who still thinks it's a slow tram will change their mind pretty fast when it's done. And it may open doors for simular projects in other places. Both Ekeberg-banen (2010) and Lilleakerbanen (2009) are partly light-rail in Oslo and getting a full upgrade with new grade-free plattforms and 25 % increased speed. Sad they turned down the Holmenkollbanen Tram-project for It would be much better for the whole city imo.

http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article828377.ece Looks soooo 90`s

Snapped a few pics of the ongoing Marineholmen development. And yes, there is a certain air of the 90`s. But then again, the neighbouring "Høyteknologisenteret" screams of the 80`s. I guess it`s a natural development ;)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3673/dsc0534zqm.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0534zqm.jpg)


I think these 4 buildings are going to be connected by some glass-walls/atrium kind of thing. It may look better then :?:

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6472/dsc0524s.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0524s.jpg)


The "Allbruksbygget" is completed, and for a parking house it looks quite good.

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6835/dsc0496d.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0496d.jpg)

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http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5094/dsc0544i.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0544i.jpg)

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http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1866/dsc0548f.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0548f.jpg)


90`s or not, its a very welcome addition to the area :)

This is Høyteknologisenteret by the way.. Not really hi-tech IMO :lol:

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2937/dsc0492l.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0492l.jpg)

Something like this would be more appropriate:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/3083819056_ca8cf54b7c.jpg

The famous "Fisketorget" in Bergen is finally getting a facelift. 68 proposals are on display today at the city-hall. As the market stands today, it`s a disaster. Lot of interesting proposals. If I`m able, I`ll try to get my ass over there and snap some pics.

Further reading (in norwegian) : http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article831067.ece

Pictures available here (in Norwegian): https://www.bergen.kommune.no/organisasjonsenhet/byutvikling?articleId=41527&artSectionId=4443&sectionId=4443

^^

I would comment, but those pictures on the site are so tiny! You can hardly see what's going on.

Oh well, hopefully they'll release some bigger ones later. From what I can see it looks really good. It will be nice with a piece of modern architecture in downtown Bergen.

The Government has decided that the new Sotra-connection will be a bridge, but Bergens politicians don't agree, and they are even considering doing nothing at all in protest..;P

Advantages with a bridge is: Can take pedestrians and bikes, allows for the future bybane, less fuel-consumption. Much nicer drive with views over the ocean.
Advantages for tunnel is: Nimbys love it - more untoched land, no one has to look at the ugly engineering marvell.
http://www.bt.no/lokalt/article832077.ece

What a bunch of whining wankers! NIMBYs of the worst kind. And their arguments doesn't even make sense.

^^

I would comment, but those pictures on the site are so tiny! You can hardly see what's going on.

Oh well, hopefully they'll release some bigger ones later. From what I can see it looks really good. It will be nice with a piece of modern architecture in downtown Bergen.

Yeah. Those pictures aren`t much to go by. The display at the city-hall is supposed to be there for some time. I`ll stop by when i can and document the proposals properly ;) And as i said earlier. The fishmarket now looks shiite.. Embarrassing really for a town like Bergen. :ohno:

What a bunch of whining wankers! NIMBYs of the worst kind. And their arguments doesn't even make sense.

That`s Bergen for you. But that`s nothing really. Check out this article from yesterdays paper. These guys are on a crusade against the Bybane with some real hi-brow arguments.. Chrissakes.. :bash:

http://www.bt.no/lokallokal/asane/asanetidende/article831653.ece (in Norwegian)

That anything ever gets built around here is a friggin miracle.

Stumbled across some interesting news that has escaped my attention, it dates back to march but I haven`t heard anything about it.

Vil tillate 12 etasjer
Byrådet anbefaler BOB sitt forslag om å bygge et bygg på 12 etasjer, selv om dette strider mot fagetatens anbefaling. Fagetatens vurdering tar utgangspunkt i de føringene som følger av Høyhusmeldingen, Kommuneplanens arealdel og utkast til kommunedelsplan for Puddefjorden-Damsgårdssundet. Sistnevnte er ennå ikke vedtatt.

Etter byrådets oppfatning er den aktuelle lokaliteten ved brofestet egnet for et høyhus. Det finnes i liten grad bakenforliggende boligbebyggelse som et høyhus kan ta utsikt fra, og skyggevirkningen av huset vil heller ikke ha negative virkninger av betydning. Naboskapet til den dominerende Puddefjordsbroen vil bidra til å dempe eventuelle negative landskapsvirkninger.

Lokaliteten er spesiell, og saken vil etter byrådets vurdering ikke skape presedens for høyhusbebyggelse i øvrige deler av byen.

http://bergenkommune.no/tema/politikk?articleId=39009&artSectionId=504&sectionId=504

Good news indeed, even though that last sentence is a bit dismaying.

http://www.lundogpartnere.no/bilder/BOB.jpg
http://www.lundogpartnere.no/

The ol`reguleringsplan for Damsgårdveien 99 can be read here, some nice renders of the 12 floor wooden hi-rise :) Bring it on I say.
http://byfjellene.no/BKSAK_filer/bksak%5C0%5CVEDLEGG%5C2007116397-1.pdf

Yes, finally! :D

With groundwork well under way and construction scheduled to start in june. There`s now a debate raging in Bergen, whether the placement of the Gulating building, is all a big mistake or not.
http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article844369.ece

http://images.bt.no/btno/multimedia/dynamic/00565/Gulating-d_111a775k_565125b.jpg

In all fairness, the protesters do have a point. This all looks very clustered and messy. The alternative plan dating back from 2003, with a proper Rådhusplass look much better IMO. The infamous Rådhuset actually looks better being exposed, and the same goes for the old firestation.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5685/gulatingperspektiv56483.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gulatingperspektiv56483.jpg)

Anyway, Bergen is set for a new building downtown which I guess is something of an achievement around here.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3637/perspoversiktost564840b.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=perspoversiktost564840b.jpg)

But why is it that debates such as these always come at the last possible moment? I`m never sure until buildings are completed, NIMBYS on the prowl are an ever-present and untimely factor, always :bash:. Projects end up taking years and years... :ohno:

I don't think Bergen needs another square in this area, Festplassen, Torgalmenningen, Ole Bulls plass etc. is enough ;) I like it!

You do have a point. This town sure loves it`s Byrom though. They even speak of "signalbyrom" :lol: (IMO one of the more ridiculous expressions ever.) But it`s all very Taoistic I guess, presence in absence etc. That being said the building itself looks quite cool, and will turn out a marked improvement of the area :)

But why is it that debates such as these always come at the last possible moment? I`m never sure until buildings are completed, NIMBYS on the prowl are an ever-present and untimely factor, always :bash:. Projects end up taking years and years... :ohno:

Because NIMBYs are idiots that don't really care before they see the change they so oppose start to materialize. That's why they time after time start a huge rambeling when its actually too late to do anything, but still demand a new investigation of the plans, get some cultural personality that doesn't know shit as a spokesperson, etc. you know the works.

A winning proposal for Bergens new fishmarket has been selected. The Stavanger-based Edel Biesel Arkitekter AS came out first. I guess the winner is worthy and looks ok but it´s hard to tell as these renders are really, really small...

https://www.bergen.kommune.no/bk/multimedia/archive/00051/plansje3_historien_f_51901e.jpg

More on the winner "Historien fortsetter" can be found here:
https://www.bergen.kommune.no/organisasjonsenhet/byutvikling?articleId=44643&artSectionId=4443&sectionId=4443

or the BT-article here:
http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article855691.ece

hey guys, im new to this place.

i have been spying on you for quite some time (well, only about 2 weeks, really), as i recently found out that... well... i am obsessed with anything being constructed!! ESPECIALLY if the construction takes place in a place or city close to me. (i check www.bybanen.no several times a week!!) and thats why threads like these are making me very happy..

I really like all the projects going on in oslo, but at the same time i dont like the fact that its OUR money oslo is using (yeah, im one of those who are for vestlandspartiet. well, im not really for it, but yea... we can take this some other time!!)

anyways, its great to finally have made an account so that i will be able to communicate with you guys, i however doubt that i will be able to make any additions to this forum in terms of construction pictures and so on as i dont have a camera, and frankly, im just lazy.

but yeah, its great to see my homecity Bergen progressing and becoming more modern!! i was really surprised to see that we actually have a fjordcity project going on here, too.

this is the one im talking about:

Bergen Sjøfront, Nøstet

Bergen Sjøfront is a huge project, with the same size as the Fjordcity project in Oslo. Nøstet in a part of this project, and renderings has been released after the architectural competition in late 2003. Nøstet has already two high-rise proposals as you saw earlyer in this thread, but it also includes more. A 13 storey tall cultural and hotell building is also proposed. I don't know more about it actually, but i've heard that the city council is far more positive to high-rise buildings situated in the waterfront than high-rise buildings situated further in between the older squares and buildings.

http://www.rra.no/rra/images/sjofront001_big.jpg
This is a part of Nøstet, as you can se it contain mostly industry and warehouse builidngs, with older buildings up the hillside.

http://www.rra.no/rra/images/sjofront004_big.jpg
Its extremly important to keep this older buildings as they is today, so the proposal contains mostly new residential and cultural buildings at the waterfront which is today covered with industrial facilities.

http://www.rra.no/rra/images/sjofront002_big.jpg
In this rendering you can also see the shadow from the 13 story high-rise building standing on this island. That is the coverage of the shadow in winter.

http://www.rra.no/rra/images/sjofront005_big.jpg
Another rendering of the project and the surroundings.


well, actually... we have TWO!! and im actually even more excited about this one:


Store Lungegårdsvann winner team
Store Lungegårdsvann - Bergen

3RW Architects won the competition for a huge development site in downtown Bergen some few months ago. The proposal is huge, but not tall sadly, with low buildings onl, but still very interesting. There is also a large stadium with the proposal who is situated on an man built island. I guess we will see more from this suggestion next year.

http://www.3rw.no/1Oversiktsplan.jpg

http://www.3rw.no/1Fra_Fjellveien.jpg

i also found this PDF

http://www.3rw.no/Urban%20Store%20Lungegaardsvann.pdf

CHECK OUT THAT FOOTBALL STADIUM, GUYS!!

wow, that is some sexy stuff, right there! Id love to see this become reality, as that place around store lungegårdsvannet is REALLY rundown atm..

Does anyone know the status of these two projects as of now? Isthere any final proposal? When is the construction start?

also, regarding:

#4 Nordnes Brygge

i live right by the city center and go to school there, so im there alot, but i still have no idea if this thing has been constructed yet!!

so yeah.. basically i ask the same questions as with the two projects above.

its a great project and i hope itll be constructed as soon as possible (if it isnt there already!!)

oh, and what is going on with

#36 Ørnen (The Eagle)??

that is another building that id love to see being built here!!

so yeah ;) that was my short introduction, i guess.

talk to you later, peeps!!

Welcome. We need more people from Bergen to update us with ongoing projects :)



I really like all the projects going on in oslo, but at the same time i dont like the fact that its OUR money oslo is using (yeah, im one of those who are for vestlandspartiet. well, im not really for it, but yea... we can take this some other time!!)


Developments in the Oslo are almost entirely financed locally though. Construction of offices and apartments are (usually) financed by developers who get the money back from buyers or tenants, while as infrastructure is mostly financed by users (toll roads) and local municipalities and counties. I suppose the Opera was mostly state financed though, so that's the exception.

One way you can contribute is to keep an eye out for development news in local papers and on the internet, and update us if you find anything interesting. Cheers :cheers:

More on winner for Fisketorvet:
http://arkitekturnytt.no/2009/05/fisketorget-i-bergen-historien.html

http://arkitekturnytt.no/uploaded_images/historien_fortsetter_luft-778324.jpg

http://arkitekturnytt.no/uploaded_images/historien_fortsetter_2-789238.jpg


And a nice vision for a new Cablecar from the station to connect with Haukeland Sykehus and Ullriksbanen:
http://www.bt.no/meninger/kronikk/article842421.ece


Also Ikea got a yes from the county council:
http://images.bt.no/btno/multimedia/dynamic/00568/Til_BT__ikea__jpg_568434b.jpg
http://www.bt.no/lokallokal/asane/asanetidende/article856333.ece?service=lokalwebLargeImage&myStart=0
-But there is still a chance the county guy will say no, a real test for the shopping-centre ban yet again... :D

That Ikea looks pretty intimidating. Let's hope they get a no. :)

But Ikea already have a big store in Åsane, is this a new mall or an expansion/rehabilitation?

It looks just as awful as most other IKEAs around..

Edit: Read the article now, it is an expansion. Still looks bad though.

Welcome. We need more people from Bergen to update us with ongoing projects :)




Developments in the Oslo are almost entirely financed locally though. Construction of offices and apartments are (usually) financed by developers who get the money back from buyers or tenants, while as infrastructure is mostly financed by users (toll roads) and local municipalities and counties. I suppose the Opera was mostly state financed though, so that's the exception.

One way you can contribute is to keep an eye out for development news in local papers and on the internet, and update us if you find anything interesting. Cheers :cheers:

yeah, but in general oslo gets soo much more money than bergen. in 2008 oslo got 10 times as much money as bergen, and the city is only twice as big :ohno: (if you havent already - check out the political party Vestlandspartiet!!)

and ill be sure to let you know about it if i ever come across new projects!!

i really hope that rådhusplassen is being built, instad of that stupid gulating bygning. also, i want rådhuset to be demolished. it is one of the ugliest buildings in this place!! they should demolish it and build a new one.

but whats happening with those project i mentioned in the other post? are they going to be constructed, or what? :)

by the way, im really liking the new thing being built on fisketorget ;) it seems like a cool building. any idea when theyll start building it / when it will be done? shouldnt take too long!

Welcome to the forum :cheers1:

The plans for Nøstet and store lungegårdsvann is pretty old and will probably turn out to be totally diffrent. First they have to move the container harbour from Nøstet (hopefully to Flesland). So I dont think we see any big projects the next couple of years except Damsgård.

Welcome to the forum :cheers1:

The plans for Nøstet and store lungegårdsvann is pretty old and will probably turn out to be totally diffrent. First they have to move the container harbour from Nøstet (hopefully to Flesland). So I dont think we see any big projects the next couple of years except Damsgård.

thank you :)

you mean that huge building that is being built by the bridge? (or maybe its two buildings)

i remember reading somewhere that they were going to make that area into a whole new city borough. any idea when this will happen?

and more importantly - that "fjord city project" that is to take place by store lungegårdsvannet.. is this really old? i really hope it gets built (especially with the football stadium)!!


oh, and about the "ulriksbanen" that is going to "fly" through the city (http://www.bt.no/lokalt/bergen/article687356.ece)

wow, this is crazy. is there anymore info on this?

BTW that picture taken from festplassen is freaking great! what is that tall building that is supposedly being constructed there?? is it ever gonna be constructed for real?? too bad the picture lacks nonneseterkatedralen.. that building looks great from festplassen!

i really hope that rådhusplassen is being built, instad of that stupid gulating bygning.

You are like 10 years to late, got to complain in the right stage of planning you know... :D



what is that tall building that is supposedly being constructed there?? is it ever gonna be constructed for real?? too bad the picture lacks nonneseterkatedralen.. that building looks great from festplassen!

This is the shafts for Nonneseter highrise, old picture:D

Btw. Ofcourse Oslo get a lot of stuff, that is one of the perks of being a capital - and it's the way it makes most sense, don't forget Oslo is centre of a region home to half the population withinn 1,5 hours of travel, while Bergen is more of an island surrounded by water and mountains on all sides;D

You are like 10 years to late, got to complain in the right stage of planning you know... :D



This is the shafts for Nonneseter highrise, old picture:D

Btw. Ofcourse Oslo get a lot of stuff, that is one of the perks of being a capital - and it's the way it makes most sense, don't forget Oslo is centre of a region home to half the population withinn 1,5 hours of travel, while Bergen is more of an island surrounded by water and mountains on all sides;D

oslo is twice as big - not 10 times.

bergen being "an island surrounded by mountains" is irrelevant as to how much money the city should be given.

obivously oslo should get more money for being a capital, so maybe 2.5 times as much money. 10 times is just.. ridiculous. i talked to my teacher who is from oslo, and even he says that its crazy and disgusting how little people from oslo care about anything outside of the city.

http://www.bt.no/innenriks/article527302.ece

http://vestlandspartiet.299mb.co.cc/Index.html

and regarding the new gulating bygning, i did not read newspapers or anything of that kind 10 years ago, so there is no way i could have known about this project and therefore there is no way i could have complained.

how can they dig up a project this old of a huuge building in the city center, and still expect everyone to be fine with it? its crazy. almost everyone are against it. they obviously dont want the best for the people.

i seriously hope we can get a proper rådhusplass, and later a proper rådhus. the one we have now is a disgrace to our city.

^ The building is hardly huge - it fits well in the cityscape if it was huge in vertical direction that would be even better ofcourse, why do you want a square in front of a city hall you hate (The new building will help "hide" this building you hate, and why do you need another square in an area that almost only consists of squares?

It is not irrelevant, since no an institution given to Bergen only benefits Bergen, for anyone else it's just in the middle of nowhere, as if something is to be located in Oslo it's withinn reasonable travel distance from a majority of Norwegians:)

I suspect Bergen residents cares just as little about stuff outside of their own city as Oslo people... And why should they? That is for them living there to care about...

^ The building is hardly huge - it fits well in the cityscape if it was huge in vertical direction that would be even better ofcourse, why do you want a square in front of a city hall you hate (The new building will help "hide" this building you hate, and why do you need another square in an area that almost only consists of squares?

It is not irrelevant, since no an institution given to Bergen only benefits Bergen, for anyone else it's just in the middle of nowhere, as if something is to be located in Oslo it's withinn reasonable travel distance from a majority of Norwegians:)

I suspect Bergen residents cares just as little about stuff outside of their own city as Oslo people... And why should they? That is for them living there to care about...

i didnt understand the bold text.

i want a square there because somehow being able to actually see the city hall, makes it look better, and it also looks much tidier. it will be great with another square in that area, as bybanen is coming there soon, and we're gonna need all the space we can get ;)

i could however settle with that one proposal where gulentinget is made much smaller, and placed closer to lille lungegårdsvannet.

im not gonna get into a huge fight about the budgets of the norwegian cities, but i can honestly not believe that you actually think that Oslo deserves TEN TIMES as much money as Bergen, which is just half the size. (especially not when vestlandet produces 70% of norways economy).

Well, this is only withinn one agency - Statsbygg, who mainly concern is building government institutions, and you are surpriced these are located in our capital? They have been moving some of these out of Oslo, with the result of cripling these agencies since they loose competent people in the move - or these have to be paid of with huge extra benefits, i am not in favour of this as i think it is a waste of money, and public spending should be as low as possible. My support would be from project to project, if there are projects in Oslo that are more in need of money than in Bergen, then so be it.

That 70 % claim, well... Where do you get this? Oslo BNP per capita is way higher than Bergen you know.

What i meant was that all of Østlandet is concentrated around Oslo, and there is no problem for adding a belt from Lillehammer to Halden and Grenland in it's immediate area of easily commute to Oslo, thus giving a working region of over 2 million people:D

I think Festplassen in combination with Lille lungeren and Torgalmenningen, Bryggen gives you a far better urban space than Oslo ever had in Rådhusplassen and Studenterlunden, maybe just me as a visitor who sees that:D That new square just seems useless to me, i'm in favour of dense building almost everywhere as most here on the forum...

But when it comes to for example road investments around Vestlandet i think you deserve more funds than us, as where we have roads that maybe filled with cars - but still has a minimum standard, you barely have roads at all... And your PT is laughable, Bybanen needs to be built, not just to the south but to all 3 directions asap. :D With support from the state :)

Well, this is only withinn one agency - Statsbygg, who mainly concern is building government institutions, and you are surpriced these are located in our capital? They have been moving some of these out of Oslo, with the result of cripling these agencies since they loose competent people in the move - or these have to be paid of with huge extra benefits, i am not in favour of this as i think it is a waste of money, and public spending should be as low as possible. My support would be from project to project, if there are projects in Oslo that are more in need of money than in Bergen, then so be it.

That 70 % claim, well... Where do you get this? Oslo BNP per capita is way higher than Bergen you know.

What i meant was that all of Østlandet is concentrated around Oslo, and there is no problem for adding a belt from Lillehammer to Halden and Grenland in it's immediate area of easily commute to Oslo, thus giving a working region of over 2 million people:D

I think Festplassen in combination with Lille lungeren and Torgalmenningen, Bryggen gives you a far better urban space than Oslo ever had in Rådhusplassen and Studenterlunden, maybe just me as a visitor who sees that:D That new square just seems useless to me, i'm in favour of dense building almost everywhere as most here on the forum...

But when it comes to for example road investments around Vestlandet i think you deserve more funds than us, as where we have roads that maybe filled with cars - but still has a minimum standard, you barely have roads at all...

i know nothing about BNP per capita in the different cities (link, please), but i know that vestlandet is the reason for 70% of the norwegian economy, yes. its a known fact.

mainly because of stavanger, the oil city, but also because of.. well, tourisim. tourists want to see beautiful fjords and mountains, the kind of nature you have in østlandet you can get anywhere in the world. its nothing special.

fact: every year bergen gets more tourists who come to the city BY CRUISE SHIPS than the cities population. this is not counting all the japanese tourists and others who come with planes.

but really, i hate to turn the bergen thread into a war between østlandet and vestlandet. you seem to known quite abit about the norwegian economy, so if you could inform me itd be great (maybe over PM?) , as i honestly have not read much into this yet, or we could make a new thread regarding this issue :)


and yeah, we do have qutie abit of space in the city (not as much as oslo, though. i was there last week and the area in front of the oslo rådhus (the one that goes from the festning to aker brygge) is HUUUUGE. also, behind aker brygge (where the bridge from/to tjuvholmen is) there is also some very big and very nice living areal ;)

Bnp per county:
http://www.ssb.no/fnr/

wow, well... thats not totally fair.

see, obviously the citizens of bergen are gonna have the best economy in hordaland.

check this: (taken from wikipedia).

As of 2002, the average gross income for men above the age of 17 is 426,000 NOK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergen#Demographics

btw, what does "per sysselsatt" mean? cause we're not that far behind you there!

and is the average income for people in oslo REALLY 635 000 NOK? im pretty sure its generally lower than that, but all the norwegian millionaires reside there so they up the average, you know?

id imagine oslos GNP being low, as all i ever see there is hobos and immigrants (who sadly do not tend to get the best of jobs due to racism).

:lol: obviously this is not all i ever see there, i was just taking the piss, but yeah.. i had no idea we were that far behind, and im pretty sure we're not in reality!

Hello fellow Bergenite and welcome to the forum :) I thought I was alone here ;)

On a serious note: You can`t really compare Bergen with Oslo. I read somewhere that half the countrys population is situated within a 100km of the Sinsenkrysset. (Hence the bold fonts from Ingenioren methinks). Bergen is having a hard time competing with Stavanger even, as the capitol of the west. Seeing money freely flow towards Oslo is only natural, we should however get more for roads, comunication etc. but let`s leave that one for another forum ey?
IMO Bergen has other qualities than our great neighbour to the east. We have a beautiful city for one ;) Hi-rises are not really suited for our downtown and thus are few and far between. The Nonneseterkvartalet currently has about 8 masterplans if I remember correctly and I don`t think we`ll be seeing anything major happen there soon. (I`ll post some more links to this later.)

When it comes to the Rådhusplass idea. It`s to late now. A shame really as the 2003 proposal I`ve posted earlier seems like a good alternative.

Well now I`m rambling...

Hello fellow Bergenite and welcome to the forum :) I thought I was alone here ;)

well, youre not anymore ;)

what are your thoughts on the current budget uuh inndeling in norway? fair/unfair?

btw where in the city do you live?

i live right by haukeland sykehus / odentologen (which by the way is gonna be demolished and re-built. anyone got any renders or info on this?), so its pretty central :) my second home is in sandviken (indre, not ytre). two minute walk from the wharf :)

when i get a new computer and a cam i will see what i can do when it comes to taking pics of development sites etc.

IMO the most interest project going on in bergen right now, is bybanen. www.bybanen.no is updated with pics several times a week, for anyone who is interested!! too bad it wont be done till summer 2010 :( and i dont live anywhere close to it (closest station is danmarksplass). itll be fun to ride it once it opens, though. ill be sure to take it all the way from "lillelungåren" to nesttun next summer :D (SEVERAL TIMES!!!)

I live at Solheimsviken ;) Things are actually happening here. Sandviken is my second home as well :)

And you`re quite right Bybanen is very exciting. I`ve been led to understand that along with the line itself, future development will be focused within 400m of the tracks. This is good. It`s the natural way for our great town to develop.

Oh. By the way I`ve been trying to update the Bergen photo thread, bvut it`s a lonely job. Any contributions would be greatly appreciated ;)

It looks just as awful as most other IKEAs around..



It certainly has that cheap, do-it-yourself-Ikea look. ;)
Åsane is without a doubt a horrendous example of city-planning gone wrong/or on hard hallucogenic drugs. They`re still trying to smooth things over upthere, but to no avail. I`ll have to take some pictures of this fantastically hideous suburb. (But I don`t really wanna go there)

solheimsviken... along the mountainside in landås, right? i have loads of friends from there!

i was really close to moving there some years ago, but yeah.

hmm what do you mean by "things are actually happening here?" in bergen or in solheimsviken?

the last big thing that heppened in landås was landås center, right? and now bybanen.. or maybe in missing out on something. i bet there are alot of residental projects going on there. its a pretty populated borough!

last thing that happened in my specific area was.. that road in front of odontologen got a facelift, and the next big thing will be the demolishion and rebuilding of odontologen, i guess. also, i hear rumors that in some years bybanen will go to haukeland sykehus, so i guess then it will have to pass this road!! :banana:

i personally dont like small cities (the bigger the better), and most of the year, if you ask me, ill tell you that i despise this place (bergen).. but in the summer times.. there is nothing really quite like this place :) during the months of may-june bergen literally turns into another city. if only the weather could stay like this for some more time, maybe i wouldnt have to move when i get older ;)

i live right by haukeland sykehus / odentologen (which by the way is gonna be demolished and re-built. anyone got any renders or info on this?)

Here you go :)
http://www.kjark.no/kj_workshop/0321_dof/bilder/bilde_01.jpg

http://www.kjark.no/kj_workshop/0321_dof/bilder/bilde_02.jpg

http://www.kjark.no/kj_workshop/0321_dof/bilder/bilde_03.jpg

It would seem your neighbourhood is set for quite a face-lift. BTW more information can be found at the architects homepage http://www.kjark.no/


I`ll post more later my fellow YIMBY. ;) But check out the previous posts in regards to ongoing construction in Solheimsviken.

thanks. to be honest, that building looks pretty cool! (my mom said it was gonna be ugly as heck)

its funny, i just walked down that street and into the rema 1000 by the bike tunnel (in hope of buying red bull, but noo it hasnt arrived yet:ohno: )

on the way there, i noticed some blocks on the other side of the small graveyard. theyre pretty new. ive only been there once.

i also noticed that odontologen, and a building called somethin along the lines of "doktor danielsens bygning" are soo ugly its not even funny. i hope that doctor danielsens bygning will also be demolished.

haukeland sykehus, too, is an incredibly ugly building.. and its sooo huge :( too bad itd be super expensive to build a new one and you couldnt have built it in the same spot, as there are always people lying in there etc. maybe they could give it a facelift, though (arken in åsane is looking great and so are those ugly commies in denmarks plass when theyre done, so maybe its the way to go)

also, that new white residental building with balconies.. why would anyone build a low building with balconies in a RUNDKJØRING!?!? argh. atleast i would never want to live there!!

i checked the site you linked me too, but i couldnt find any more info on odontologen.. also it says its gonna be completed in 08..

ill be sure to check the solheimsviken projects ;)

btw, whats a yimby?

The Government has decided that the new Sotra-connection will be a bridge, but Bergens politicians don't agree, and they are even considering doing nothing at all in protest..;P

Advantages with a bridge is: Can take pedestrians and bikes, allows for the future bybane, less fuel-consumption. Much nicer drive with views over the ocean.
Advantages for tunnel is: Nimbys love it - more untoched land, no one has to look at the ugly engineering marvell.
http://www.bt.no/lokalt/article832077.ece

my solution:

double decker bridge!!

IMAGINE THE AWESOMENESS OF THAT :D

it cant be that hard to just make another floor on the already existing bridge?

two bridges would look ugly. a double decker would just be awesome!

^ That would probably cost just as much or even more than a new one, the structure is only made for one deck you know - oubviously it can just hold the roadway now, since laying tracks over it was out of the question according to Vegvesenet... :)

The Bybane vision includes Haukeland:
http://www.bybanen.no/bilder/kollektivvisjon.jpg

Yimby means "Yes in my backyard." - Used here as those who loves seeing development and welcomes city growth and new construction as opposed to those protesting as soon as they see something going on in their "backyard" (Nimby).

haukeland sykehus!

that other place called haukeland is miles and miles away :lol:

but yeah, its going to haukeland hospital, too :D

btw NIMBY is an awesome term. its really cool!

.. and that map of the future bybanen almost makes bergen look like a big and global city haha i like it!

i understand that you cant just build another bridge on an already existing one just like that - obviously youd need to add pillars and strenghten them etc. i dont know alot about construction etc, but it doesnt seem like a very complicated task :lol:

btw one of the stops/stations on the bybane map is in fjell kommune, which is on the other side of that bridge.. so how are they gonna do that?

oh god, imagine if they made 2 extra lanes on the bridge, AND made it a double decker.. where the upper floor was used for bybanen only (or the lower floor). my mouth is getting watery now :nuts:



hmm we should really make a new bergen development thread! this one is from 2004! most of the projects on the front page are long gone and forgotten. id make one, but first id need to make a list of all the current construction sites and future ones + proposals etc in a word document.. itd take alot of time.

besides, im new here :P sinister, you wanna do it? we really could use a new thread for our awesome-beyond-words city :) haha. another downside if im gonna make it is that im new to this construction-fetish so i have really sucky skills at finding new projects etc :ohno:

Sorry, i just tought Haukeland would be where the hospital was located... :nuts:

And if you build a new bridge, you avoid closing down the old one for a few years during the upgrade:D The Bybane is planned to use the new bridge, this is one of the reasons why tunnel is not recommended by the government... :)

Well you can check developpers sites like Bob, Skanska, JM byggholt, Ncc or contracters, also check out the search engine at bygg.no :
www.bob.no
http://www.bygg.no/id/35252

http://www.bob.no/dgs/grafikk/profil20.jpg

And the Bergen kommune probably has all the plans on hearing on the web. Statens vegvesen ofcourse, and Statsbygg. Bergen architects homepages etc.. :D

Or just walk around with a camera and follow the cranes in the horizon :)

Sorry, i just tought Haukeland would be where the hospital was located... :nuts:

And if you build a new bridge, you avoid closing down the old one for a few years during the upgrade:D The Bybane is planned to use the new bridge, this is one of the reasons why tunnel is not recommended by the government... :)

Well you can check developpers sites like Bob, Skanska, JM byggholt, Ncc or contracters, also check out the search engine at bygg.no :
www.bob.no
http://www.bygg.no/id/35252

http://www.bob.no/dgs/grafikk/profil20.jpg

And the Bergen kommune probably has all the plans on hearing on the web. Statens vegvesen ofcourse, and Statsbygg. Bergen architects homepages etc.. :D

Or just walk around with a camera and follow the cranes in the horizon :)

that pic. WHERE IS IT!?!? looking sexy. id suppose its somewhere in oslo, but seeing as this is a thread about Bergen....... where is it?

regarding bygg.no ... it really sucks having to scroll through projects in all of hordaland.. Bergen should become its own fylke!! the list doesnt even include pictures :(

It's really bad, but it's the only search-engine of it's kind - so one has to use it;P

Damsgårdssundet, check bob.no, it's your town! It's already U/C, a while ago:

http://www.bobmegleren.no/bilder/bobweb/Promenade_DGS.jpg

regarding bygg.no ... it really sucks having to scroll through projects in all of hordaland.. Bergen should become its own fylke!!

lol, we have a real Bergenser here, no doubt! Welcome to SSC :cheers:

There is a reason they gave that up in the 70s, i don't think Oslo/Akershus has any business being apart either...

Damsgård is very cool, one of the best modern areas and more characteristic than the usual nyfunkis waterfront. From Rambøll (http://www.rambollark.no/Prosjekter/ref_byutvikl/damsgaardssundet_BOB.htm):
http://www.rambollark.no/Bilder/Prosjekter/byutvikl/Damsgaard_BoB.jpg
-This is the way to build!

haha muster, thats funny :)

but yeha, im definitely a real bergenser.

i have have that dialect you all love so much, too :hahano:

hmm oslo (fylke) is basically considered the same as oslo (city), right? i mean, there is no special page on wikipedia for oslo (fylke)..

soo basically.. if oslo and akershus became one fylke, that would make oslo (city) even bigger? would all of akershus' population become a part of oslo (city)? or just some of it?

i mean, akershus is a part of the oslo metro area now, right? if akershus became a part of oslo (city), then oslo would become the biggest capital in scandinavia, right? :nuts: coooool.


so anyways, it seems like damsgårdssundet is going through some major construction!! im on their website now www.damsgaardssundet.no but it doesnt say anything about HOW many apartments are gonna be there, or HOW many people that will live there.

also, is there a map for where its gonna be? like, are they gonna build along the promende all the way to danmarksplass? are they going to demolish anything (they better..!!)

this is great news!! for anyone thats been there, you know that place is super ugly today.. its good that they fix it up, but at the same time im more interested in stuff thats being constructed in the city center (this is on the "wrong" side of the water.. its like.. brooklyn and damsgårdsbroen is the brooklyn bridge!!) but its a great location to live nonetheless :) just sucks with all the drug addicts who reside in/near the area.. also, its VERY close to a ghetto..

MY Q'S:

- how long has it been U/C?
- which area of the city will this project omfatte?
- when will it be done?

i mean, akershus is a part of the oslo metro area now, right? if akershus became a part of oslo (city), then oslo would become the biggest capital in scandinavia, right? :nuts: coooool.

The city proper doesn't really matter, it's more of an administrative thing where different Akershus regions are out of touch with eachother since they aren't connected, only they all are connected to Oslo, the capital of Akershus isn't even located in Akershus... All of Akershus is not Oslo Metro-area, but also some parts of Buskerud is in the metro area... So i guess metro Oslo is closing in on 900 000 :) Either Akershus splitt up and parts become Oslo, Oppland, Østfold, Buskerud or Oslo and Akershus simply merge... ;D Or we abandon counties for the region-thing.

And when it comes to Damsgårdssundet being located in a shithole away from sentrum, that is even better - if this can turn previously "lost" district into something like the rendering, then this is a very very good project! There's no challenge in making great locations great, but the contrary. I love those kind of projects that really turn an area around.

okay, so if akerhus and oslo became one county then it wouldnt affect the oslo city proper?

in that case, there is no point, as the metro area will stay the same anyway.

some people say its 900 000, some say 1,1 mill... its kind of confusing.

oslo is the smallest of the nordic capitals, right? (except for reykjavik, of course)!