SAAG secures US$78m EPCC contract

2011/01/10

SAAG RR Infra Limited through its overseas subsidiary, OGS Asiapac Ltd, has secured an Engineering, Procurement, Construction and Commissioning (EPCC) contract worth US$78 million from Mrails Tram (Melaka) Sdn Bhd (Mrails).

In a filing to Bursa Malaysia today, the subsidiary of SAAG Consolidated (M) Bhd said, the contract is for the 40 kilometres Tramway in Melaka project.

The company also said the project is scheduled to commence on Feb 18 and the contract period is 15 months from commencement date.

The tram system starts from the main depot near the toll plaza at Ayer Keroh, connecting the city through 32 stops or stations along the way, and involving also the United Nations heritage site.

The project is expected to contribute positively to the earnings of the SAAG Group in 2011 and 2012.

wow, so its comfirm melaka will get a tram:). how about JB?

melaka always full with suprises.., i.e monorail, Dumai bridge and suddenly with the tram.. im wondering why other states are not going ahead with their own plan like melaka??:nuts:

I dunno what they were thinking. It seems they like short term solutions. No proper planning, anything in their mind should be realized as possible without thinking the +\-. I just cannot accept this kind of practice. Its become a bad habit everywhere in Malaysia. In the end the public suffers and when problems starts to pop here and there, a/many solutions proposed but still repeat previous mistaken done before.

now this is a serious project by Melaka state. not like other 'main-main' projects like menara taming sari, dumai bridge, pulau melaka, eye on malaysia, cable car, cartoon monorail…..

SAAG secures US$78m EPCC contract

2011/01/10

SAAG RR Infra Limited through its overseas subsidiary, OGS Asiapac Ltd, has secured an Engineering, Procurement, Construction and Commissioning (EPCC) contract worth US$78 million from Mrails Tram (Melaka) Sdn Bhd (Mrails).

In a filing to Bursa Malaysia today, the subsidiary of SAAG Consolidated (M) Bhd said, the contract is for the 40 kilometres Tramway in Melaka project.

The company also said the project is scheduled to commence on Feb 18 and the contract period is 15 months from commencement date.

The tram system starts from the main depot near the toll plaza at Ayer Keroh, connecting the city through 32 stops or stations along the way, and involving also the United Nations heritage site.

The project is expected to contribute positively to the earnings of the SAAG Group in 2011 and 2012.

according to this news, SAAG will only build the tramway. while the cars are from different companies. please not another 'made-in-china' brand….!

Ohoo, an Indian company. Is it going to be tram-train or a tram-bus? 78mil for 40km and 32 stops sounds pretty cheap eh.

according to this news, SAAG will only build the tramway. while the cars are from different companies. please not another 'made-in-china' brand….!

The trams will based on china technology and will be assemble in pahang.

The trams will based on china technology and will be assemble in pahang.

alamak!!!!! :bash:

habis duit rakyat sekali lagi dibazirkan….

(another melaka monorail…)

Trams in Malacca? Is this true? Someone pls wake me up LOL

not mistaken in OSC website..they already submitted their plan
not really too keen to see a china made pahang assemble diesel powered tram lah

i just want a freaking air conditional busses with less than 10minit interval lah..ohh n operated until 12a.m.

According to the report the tram is from the Ayer Keroh toll to the heritage area 40 km in total.
The tram is a good way to move tourists to the heritage area and reduce vehicles entering the area, in a Park and Ride transit. A large secure car/coach park can be built near the Ayer Keroh end and tourists then board the tram to the heritage area.

Talking about Trams, I had a few experiences in Europe and HK. Are there any success stories of Trams running in hot & humid countries like Msia?

not mistaken in OSC website..they already submitted their plan
not really too keen to see a china made pahang assemble diesel powered tram lah

i just want a freaking air conditional busses with less than 10minit interval lah..ohh n operated until 12a.m.

whatttt????? diesel powered?! :bash:

^^ Better use a bus shuttle service then.....

Ha ha, it's like Busway already then.

yup..the tram is like one coaches only

and pak ali wanna it look traditional,so from the rendering it look like the old ugly tram with wooden benches

Below info taken from bursamalaysia, it should be 2 coaches.

The specifications of the system include a 1,000 mm standard gauge track,
medium speed of upto 60 kmph capability, involving about 20 double-car Trams to cater to around 120 passengers each.

our nightmare come true..

fr
http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/saag/Article/

SAAG Consolidated (M) Bhd (9652)has bagged a US$78 million (RM239.46 million) job from Mrails Tram (Melaka) Sdn Bhd to build a 40km tram system in the state.

In its filing to the stock exchange yesterday, it said its overseas unit OGS Asiapac Ltd will undertake the tram project.

Work will start next month and is scheduled for completion by May 18 2012.

SAAG said the 40km tram system's main depot will be near the toll plaza at Ayer Keroh. It will connect the city through 32 stations passing through the UN heritage site.
Civil works and track laying would be carried out on existing roads.

The depot will allow for parking space for buses and cars to facilitate "ark and Ride".

SAAG said the specifications of the system include a 1,000mm standard gauge track, medium speed of up to 60kmh, involving about 20 double-car Trams to cater to 120 passengers each way.

The tram cars are to be fuelled using NGV/Euro IV fuel to avoid excessive pollution and will be supplied by CNR Tangshan Railway Vehicle Corp Ltd, the largest manufacturer of rails and rapid transit vehicles in China.

Mrails Tram (Melaka) has signed a principal agreement with the Chief Minister of Malacca (Inc) in March 2010, which accords a 25-year concession to operate the tram way.

Read more: SAAG bags US$78m Mrails Tram contract http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/saag/Article/#ixzz1AjRIRMTr

diesel powered??
ingatkan dieorg nk jadi bndar teknologi hijau 2020
msti la gne letrik or nk canggih lagi solar... :D

anyway i hope the tram lane will be like this..

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2182/dsc00186ad.jpg
green n neat!

Talking about Trams, I had a few experiences in Europe and HK. Are there any success stories of Trams running in hot & humid countries like Msia?

there r trams running in middle east if i'm not mistaken. Tunisia and Israel

Watch the video showing the route from Mrails website
http://mrailsinternational.com/projects.html

Watch the video showing the route from Mrails website
http://mrailsinternational.com/projects.html

i don't really the route, too long. They do it for the sake of doing, without proper planning. I hope the public will be consulted first. :ohno:

I agree with u !!!Another syok sendiri project!!!The preposed route just takes u around the world then eventually into town no thanks i rather be in my car!!!!

I dunno what they were thinking. It seems they like short term solutions. No proper planning, anything in their mind should be realized as possible without thinking the +\-. I just cannot accept this kind of practice. Its become a bad habit everywhere in Malaysia. In the end the public suffers and when problems starts to pop here and there, a/many solutions proposed but still repeat previous mistaken done before.

strongly agree!

while this situation happens around malaysia i think malacca's case is the worst :ohno:

is it comfirm they going to use this type?

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2010/3/5/southneast/se_03tram.jpg

That one looks like it's electrically powered. If it's going to be diesel, why can't they just buy some low-floor bendies, segregate those lanes and be done with it.

The trams will based on china technology and will be assemble in pahang.hahah i wonder who's constituency they will be assembled in.

Cheers, m

Talking about Trams, I had a few experiences in Europe and HK. Are there any success stories of Trams running in hot & humid countries like Msia? there r trams running in middle east if i'm not mistaken. Tunisia and IsraelHong Kong has had trams for 100 years and Hong Kong summers are terribly hot and humid. They also deal with typhoons in August & September.

Other hot & humid (in summer at least) countries that have trams include: Morocco, Algeria, Turkey, and Australia (Melbourne)

Cheers, m

i don't really the route, too long. They do it for the sake of doing, without proper planning. I hope the public will be consulted first. :ohno:Looks like the project is going ahead without proper consultation. In fact, I think it is illegal because there was no 3 months public display of the railways scheme in Melaka.

As for the route, it the terrible part is the loop around the town centre and also the missing stops - Melaka Sentral, for one!

What kind of public transport planner designs a service that misses the most important public transport hub in the state?

That one looks like it's electrically powered. If it's going to be diesel, why can't they just buy some low-floor bendies, segregate those lanes and be done with it.technically bendy-buses aren't legal to operate in malaysia - and no one is talking about segregated lanes (which is the loophole that could be used to allow bendy buses to operate in Malaysia).

Cheers, m

hahah i wonder who's constituency they will be assembled in.

Cheers, m

Najib's Pekan lor…..where else?! :lol:

Hong Kong has had trams for 100 years and Hong Kong summers are terribly hot and humid. They also deal with typhoons in August & September.

Other hot & humid (in summer at least) countries that have trams include: Morocco, Algeria, Turkey, and Australia (Melbourne)

Cheers, m

Rabat, Morocco has a brand new tram system. nice one. i mean, SERIOUS one. Alstrom-made. not 'play-play' like the retard Ali Rustam one…

http://images.travelpod.com/users/chagger1/1.1285332075.new-trams-for-the-capital.jpg

Another "made in China" product in Malacca? oh no... this Trams will face the same fate as the monorail... idling and collecting dusks... :(

Looking at the route (long and winding), i don't think it will benefit Melaka residents.

i teach you all guys how to get easy money ;)

Prepare a good looking (with lots of photos) paperwork of any project that you think Ali Rustam never heard about. Prepare some slide presentation and wear nice suits like you are a successful rich man. Contact Ali Rustam's private secretary and hold a meeting with Ali Rustam.

ta daaaaaaaa…!!!….you have 90% chances to get the job. good luck!! :okay:

For USD78mil EPCC project most probably they will end up using something similar with the one in Amsterdam, which good enough in melaka.. i think. Btw, anyone noe the proposal route??

For USD78mil EPCC project most probably they will end up using something similar with the one in Amsterdam, which good enough in melaka.. i think. Btw, anyone noe the proposal route??

The USD78mil is the "face value", not the "actual value"... LOL :cheers:

hurm...the idea to use diesel tram reli not synchronize wif bandar teknologi hijau tu...
who come out wif this idea?? is there any explanation??

what the heck..at that cost...even trolley bus cannot build.....

i think they change from diesel to NGV already kot
anyway remember the old propose penang monorail? (it use diesel too):)

why can't the just look at the proposed gold coast tram

it is a touristic city too,but the system
it rapid
its operated 24-7
it have it own right of way

repost

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UkeG8fFvejI/SycFTdLIA6I/AAAAAAAAAso/C2MTgfWu0nE/s1600/RIMG11998.jpg = http://www.tourism-melaka.com/monorail2.jpg

will it be thishttp://thestar.com.my/archives/2010/3/5/southneast/se_03tram.jpg turning into this http://www.picamatic.com/show/2010/03/06/03/27/6393712_bigthumb.jpg

i think they change from diesel to NGV already kot
anyway remember the old propose penang monorail? (it use diesel too):)

why can't the just look at the proposed gold coast tram

it is a touristic city too,but the system
it rapid
its operated 24-7
it have it own right of way

hurm...if tat so, its better than using diesel. more environmental friendly.
when the project will start??
how about the monorail?? still useful or being trash ad???:bash:

hurm...the idea to use diesel tram reli not synchronize wif bandar teknologi hijau tu...
who come out wif this idea?? is there any explanation??

I think they are trying to reduce the cost by not having to install electric posts and cables, and also I believe with Malaysian tropical storm, it is unwise to expose electric cables to the weather.

But if they really just want to reduce the cost, they really do it for the sake of doing it without proper planning. I wonder the citizens can have their voices heard on the proposal before it's too late :ohno:

Proposed Tram Route @ 1.24

fG7LcG3mhIk

I think they are trying to reduce the cost by not having to install electric posts and cables, and also I believe with Malaysian tropical storm, it is unwise to expose electric cables to the weather.

But if they really just want to reduce the cost, they really do it for the sake of doing it without proper planning. I wonder the citizens can have their voices heard on the proposal before it's too late :ohno:

yup..i suspected it was for cutting cost purposes that they go for diesel tram.
but i still think that much more efficient to use electric rather than diesel.
gov can cut their cost in subsidize diesel. n for future, it good to use electric.
this is my opinion...

i dunno how to express my feeling if they opt for diesel instead of electric cables, every one now talk about green technology n if Malacca tram will use diesel thats really backward..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2558/3912158956_70f167e524_o.gif

I think they are trying to reduce the cost by not having to install electric posts and cables, and also I believe with Malaysian tropical storm, it is unwise to expose electric cables to the weather.

I think it's more about cost rather than "exposing electric cables to the weather". Those KTM's and ERL's catenary lines works just fine with our Malaysian tropical storm.

I think they are trying to reduce the cost by not having to install electric posts and cables, and also I believe with Malaysian tropical storm, it is unwise to expose electric cables to the weather.

But if they really just want to reduce the cost, they really do it for the sake of doing it without proper planning. I wonder the citizens can have their voices heard on the proposal before it's too late :ohno:

It has nothing to do with weather, especially precipitation.

Hong Kong has double decker tram system in Hong Kong island, as well as light rail (it is tram) in New Territories. Hong Kong annual rainfall on average, around 2,300 mm.

Kuala Lumpur annual rainfall is around 2,400 mm.

Logically speaking, installing electrification system constitutes a major part of the rail project cost.

What are the things can be achieved by a tram that can't be done by a conventional bus?

What are the things can be achieved by a tram that can't be done by a conventional bus?

Human (driver) erratic behavior and image/style/uniqueness of the mode of transportation. I am a tourist who frequents Malacca, and no way I will ever take a domestic bus (within Malacca precincts) :ohno:

What are the things can be achieved by a tram that can't be done by a conventional bus?

Higher value projek :)

If the said tram runs on diesel ? Nothing much. But I bet you could get away with swindling more money out of it citing "project cost overruns due to unfamiliar technology implementation"

The Mrails website says the trams run on NGV

http://mrailsinternational.com/images/graph03.jpg

Hurm... Mula2, aerorail. Siap masuk kat berita tv3 lagi. Then monorail. Monorail untuk theme park. Now tram?? Hurm....:nuts:

Eventually kereta lembu!!!!

i don't feel that electricity or diesel is a big issues

metrail(penang monorail bidder) claim,their diesel powered monorail are lower cost but much less polluting then electric powered one..

the biggest problem is the proposed route..its sucks

and as for the general public goes,if the gomen try to sell bus as a solution,many will be say the gomen is idiotic..but if the gomen sell something hype up,like LRT,monorail or tram,then people will say cool,this will solve all our problem..hahaha

i don't feel that electricity or diesel is a big issues

metrail(penang monorail bidder) claim,their diesel powered monorail are lower cost but much less polluting then electric powered one..

the biggest problem is the proposed route..its sucks

and as for the general public goes,if the gomen try to sell bus as a solution,many will be say the gomen is idiotic..but if the gomen sell something hype up,like LRT,monorail or tram,then people will say cool,this will solve all our problem..hahaha

BRT or segregated bus lane will make more sense, because not only it is easier to implement, the route can be more realistic, unlike the proposed tram alignment which takes too long and do not benefit local residents in terms of usefulness and practicality.

Bus can be environmentally friendly as well, NGV or electric (well, from China) or at least, Euro4 diesel.

What are the things can be achieved by a tram that can't be done by a conventional bus?capacity & flexibility

trams can run in trains, at ground level, above or below ground.

Buses cannot run in trains and are limited to 24m double articulated buses. They can run at ground level, but above ground or below ground is problematic.

Also, buses take up more space than trams - because of that side-side motion travel - unless you introduce some sort of guidance system like in Australia.

Cheers, m

Proposed Tram Route @ 1.24

fG7LcG3mhIkThat just hilarious.

Tram route doesn't actually start until 1:45 but the funny thing is that they used a PCC streetcar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCC_streetcar) design for the tram - that is hilarious!


And I love the picture at 3:55 where the yellow PCC streetcar is going backwards!

cheers, m

Melaka Tram to open to public in May 2012



AYER KEROH -- Train maker, Mrails International Sdn Bhd expects its RM272 million Melaka Tram, the first natural gas vehicle (NGV) powered tram in the world, to open to the public in May next year.

Its president and managing director, Datuk Jeya Kumar said, the implementation and application of the environmentally friendly "Next Generation Tram" will revolutionise the locomotive industry.

"We will be using this technology to add convenience to culture and enhance heritage without affecting the environment in compliance with Melaka's status as a Unesco World Heritage Site," he told a media briefing here today.


Kumar said the tram would scrap the traditional "pantograph" system in keeping with the times and also in line with United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change to combat global warming.

"This also represents our vision to take part in Melaka's growth as an ultimate destination centre for tourism, and marks our commitment to creating sustainable transport systems," he added.

The ground breaking ceremony was performed by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Mohd Najib Tun Razak.


Also present was Melaka Chief Minister Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam and Terengganu Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Ahmad Said.

Melaka Tram was made official via an agreement between the Chief Minister Incorporation (CMI) and Mrails in March last year.

Under the agreement, the company has agreed to design, construct and finance, manage, maintain and supervise the road tramway and tramcar operations for 25 years, while the financing of the project worth RM272 million is borne by Mrails as well.


The company has also been charged with managing ticket collections for 25 years, with CMI taking 20 per cent in terms of ticket collection and the balance by Mrails, Kumar said.

He highlighted that the Melaka Tram Corridor would begin from its depot adjacent to the Ayer Keroh Toll Plaza heading to the heritage town of Melaka with a distance of 40 kilometres covering 11 of fourteen major tourist spots.

"We will work hand-in-hand with our partners, CNR Tangshan Railway Vehicles Co Ltd, a Chinese-based locomotive manufacturer," he said.

The tram is a rail borne vehicle, lighter than a train and differs from other forms of locomotion, as the tracks are embedded in the street.

It is able to accommodate 120 passengers at one time, caters to the disabled because its ground-level design and will operate at speeds of 40 km/h.

Kumar said Mrails, which is expecting at least a 40,000 ridership daily, would make commuting affordable, with a fare charge of RM2.

It is free for the disabled and students.

Moving forward, the company intends to export its train to other cities in the country as well as overseas, namely to India and Africa next year, he said. -- BERNAMA

Read more: Melaka Tram to open to public in May 2012 http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/MelakaTramtoopentopublicinMay2012/Article/#ixzz1EU1WXxHH


so they are really going to build the main main tram huh

Melaka Tram to open to public in May 2012



AYER KEROH -- Train maker, Mrails International Sdn Bhd expects its RM272 million Melaka Tram, the first natural gas vehicle (NGV) powered tram in the world, to open to the public in May next year.

Its president and managing director, Datuk Jeya Kumar said, the implementation and application of the environmentally friendly "Next Generation Tram" will revolutionise the locomotive industry.

"We will be using this technology to add convenience to culture and enhance heritage without affecting the environment in compliance with Melaka's status as a Unesco World Heritage Site," he told a media briefing here today.


Kumar said the tram would scrap the traditional "pantograph" system in keeping with the times and also in line with United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change to combat global warming.

"This also represents our vision to take part in Melaka's growth as an ultimate destination centre for tourism, and marks our commitment to creating sustainable transport systems," he added.

The ground breaking ceremony was performed by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Mohd Najib Tun Razak.


Also present was Melaka Chief Minister Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam and Terengganu Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Ahmad Said.

Melaka Tram was made official via an agreement between the Chief Minister Incorporation (CMI) and Mrails in March last year.

Under the agreement, the company has agreed to design, construct and finance, manage, maintain and supervise the road tramway and tramcar operations for 25 years, while the financing of the project worth RM272 million is borne by Mrails as well.


The company has also been charged with managing ticket collections for 25 years, with CMI taking 20 per cent in terms of ticket collection and the balance by Mrails, Kumar said.

He highlighted that the Melaka Tram Corridor would begin from its depot adjacent to the Ayer Keroh Toll Plaza heading to the heritage town of Melaka with a distance of 40 kilometres covering 11 of fourteen major tourist spots.

"We will work hand-in-hand with our partners, CNR Tangshan Railway Vehicles Co Ltd, a Chinese-based locomotive manufacturer," he said.

The tram is a rail borne vehicle, lighter than a train and differs from other forms of locomotion, as the tracks are embedded in the street.

It is able to accommodate 120 passengers at one time, caters to the disabled because its ground-level design and will operate at speeds of 40 km/h.

Kumar said Mrails, which is expecting at least a 40,000 ridership daily, would make commuting affordable, with a fare charge of RM2.

It is free for the disabled and students.

Moving forward, the company intends to export its train to other cities in the country as well as overseas, namely to India and Africa next year, he said. -- BERNAMA

Read more: Melaka Tram to open to public in May 2012 http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/MelakaTramtoopentopublicinMay2012/Article/#ixzz1EU1WXxHH


so they are really going to build the main main tram huhmore bs...MRails described as train maker - they have never made anything except money for Jeya Kumar and his partners....

I love how he claims that this is really his technology and initiatives, and this NGV trains (designed locally) will soon be exported to India and Africa.

As if they can complete the project in 1 year. C'mon Jeya Kumar - I have no faith in you - prove me wrong, please!

Cheers, m

more bs...MRails described as train maker - they have never made anything except money for Jeya Kumar and his partners....

I love how he claims that this is really his technology and initiatives, and this NGV trains (designed locally) will soon be exported to India and Africa.

As if they can complete the project in 1 year. C'mon Jeya Kumar - I have no faith in you - prove me wrong, please!

Cheers, m

who is this Jeyakumar?

what is he doing? and how come he can convince everybody, even the PM?

who is this Jeyakumar?

what is he doing? and how come he can convince everybody, even the PM?He is apparently an automotive engineer although I'm sure his qualifications are not what he claims to be.

He did not have to convince everyone. He just had to convince a guy named Tengku Abdul Rahman Sultan Ahmad Shah.

Once that was accomplished, everyone from Ali Rustam to Najib all managed to convince themselves to get on the bandwagon (or should I say, tram wagon) with this guy.

You can search for more info on Jeyakumar on the anilnetto.com website.

Cheers, m

Mrails aims to export trains by next year
By Zaidi Isham Ismail Published: 2011/02/21
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/MRAILS/Article/

TRAIN maker Mrails International Sdn Bhd, manufacturer of the world's first NGV-powered tram, plans to introduce its trams to other cities and towns in the country as well as export trains of all models, targeting India and African countries, by next year.

Mrails president and managing director Datuk Jeya Kumar said the company plans to participate in Matrade's (Malaysia External Trade Development Corp) overseas trade mission next month to look for business opportunities and learn from various global cities.

"India, for example, is a potential country as they admire our urban transport system such as the LRT (light rail transit) and the monorail.

"We are not in talks with anybody yet right now, but we hope to export our trains as part of our long-term plans," Jeya Kumar told reporters in Malacca over the weekend.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak launched the Malacca tram project last Saturday at a groundbreaking event.

Privately-held Mrails is the owner and developer of the RM272 million project, which is due to start construction in August this year and be completed and opened to the public by May 2012.

"This also represents our vision to take part in Malacca's growth as an ultimate destination centre for tourism, and marks our commitment to create a sustainable transport system," Jeya Kumar added.

The NGV-powered tram is mooted by Jeya Kumar and developed together with the company's business partner, China's CNR Tangshan Railway Vehicles Co Ltd, a locomotive manufacturer .

The Malacca tram project was made official via an agreement between the Chief Minister Incorporation (CMI) and Mrails in March last year.

Under the agreement, the company is to design, construct, finance, manage, maintain and supervise the road tramway and tramcar operations for 25 years.

The financing of the project, worth RM272 million, will be borne by Mrails.

The project is a joint venture between Mrails and Malacca's state-owned CMI with an equity ratio of 80:20 respectively, in terms of ticket collection for 25 years.

Mrails is expecting at least 40,000 ridership daily with a fare charge of RM2, and free for the disabled and school students.

Malacca is expected to receive over 12 million tourists this year compared to 10 million in 2010.

The Malacca tram corridor would begin from its depot adjacent to the Ayer Keroh toll plaza heading to the heritage town of Malacca with a distance of 40km covering 11 of 14 major tourist spots.

The tram is a rail-borne vehicle, lighter than a train, and differs from other forms of locomotion as the tracks are embedded on the streets.

It is able to accommodate 120 passengers at one time, caters to the disabled because of its ground-level design and will operate at a speed of 40 km/h.

With a paid-up capital of RM1 million, Mrails was established in 2006 and is owned by Jeya Kumar, Tengku Abdul Rahman Sultan Ahmad Shah (who is chairman of the company) and others.

who is this Jeyakumar?

what is he doing? and how come he can convince everybody, even the PM?

he even fool LGE, saying bout a 1km test track b4 building up on the entire state,he even get laand to build up his fantasy train,and until now,nothing..not to mention adnan 1bil kl-kuantan HSR line

apparently,it easy to duped the PM,AR alone has done it twice:lol:

Why he (Datuk Jeya Kumar) talked about exporting the train and India market... etc... whereby there's nothing happen in Malacca? Who is he trying to fool? For GOD sake, the monorail is still collecting dust...

^^
hes no t the one buiding mlk monorail,hes the one that want to build png monorail
and the tiny monorail are working n people r paying 10bucks to ride that

if u dont know,ask,dun jus make accusation ,there no need to be a smart arss right?:)

Btw, why is MB Terengganu is there as well?? Hmm...,i guess Terengganu will be next to have a tram.. just wait and see :nuts::nuts:

^^ answer to your question,ssemuer org nk menonjol to look like they do something

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mbgbaPxs-fI/TWB41bGGbyI/AAAAAAAAJ7k/LtgdEfKRUd4/s1600/PM-Tram%2Bmlk003.jpg

Terengganu Terbabit Dalam Menjayakan Projek Melaka Trem Sebagai Ikon Utama Negara
Najib menerima model Trem Melaka yang direka khas oleh TATiUC daripada Jeyakumar sambil diperhatikan Tengku Abdul Rahman, Mohd Ali dan Ahmad Said pada majlis pecah tanah di Air Keroh, Melaka petang semalam. - Gambar Unit Komunikasi Negeri.

Ramai tertanya-tanya kehadiran Menteri Besar, Datuk Seri Ahmad Said serta tiga Exco kerajaan Negeri Terengganu pada majlis pecah tanah projek Melaka Trem di Air Keroh, Melaka petang semalam.

Kehadiran mereka bagaimanapun diperjelaskan Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak apabila mengatakan Ahmad Said berada di majlis itu kerana projek ini turut membabitkan Terengganu.

Terengganun terbabit dalam melatih pekerja Melaka Trem apabila mereka akan dihantar ke Kolej Universiti Tati (TATiUC) di Telok Kalong, Kemaman, selain institusi itu juga akan menyediakan kepakaran bagi ujian landasan atau 'test track'.

"Sebenarnya projek ini ada kaitan dengan tiga negeri iaitu Melaka, Pahang dan Terengganu," tegas Najib.

Perdana Menteri menyifatkan projek Melaka Trem bernilai RM272 juta di Ayer Keroh di sini, mampu menjadi ikon utama negara apabila ia siap kelak.

Menurut beliau, trem yang pertama di dunia menggunakan gas asli (NGV) itu bukan sahaja bakal dinikmati oleh penduduk Melaka malah keseluruhan rakyat negara ini.

Beliau teruja dengan pelaksanaan projek itu kerana teknologinya dibangunkan oleh rakyat tempatan yang juga Presiden dan Pengarah Urusan syarikat pengeluar trem, Mrails International Sdn. Bhd., Datuk Jeya Kumar.

"Kita perlu mencetuskan produk-produk yang lebih unik lagi menarik.

"Melaka Trem ini dianggap unik kerana ia belum pernah dilakukan dan trem ini pertama di dunia yang menggunakan NGV sebagai tenaga penggerak," katanya ketika Turut hadir Ketua Menteri, Datuk Seri Mohd. Ali Rustam; Menteri Besar Terengganu, Datuk Seri Ahmad Said dan penaung Mrails International Sdn. Bhd., Tengku Muda Pahang, Tengku Abdul Rahman Sultan Ahmad Shah.

Tiga Exco Terengganu yang hadir ialah Pengerusi Jawatankuasa Pelajaran, Pengajian Tinggi, Sumber Manusia, Sains dan Teknologi Negeri, Ahmad Razif Abdul Rahman, Pengerusi Jawatankuasa Pembangunan Luar Bandar, Usahawan dan Koperasi Negeri Datuk Mohamed Awang Tera dan Pengerusi Jawatankuasa Pembangunan Infrastruktur dan Kemudahan Awam, Datuk Zaaba Mohd Adib.

Melaka Trem yang dijadual siap pada Mei tahun depan dilaksanakan secara usaha sama di antara Melaka, Pahang dan Terengganu yang menyediakan khidmat pusat latihan bagi pengendalian pemanduan trem.

Landasan trem sejauh 40 kilometer itu bermula dari Plaza Tol Ayer Keroh melalui 23 lokasi termasuk tempat-tempat bersejarah hingga ke Dataran Pahlawan di Bandar Hilir.
Antaranya landasan trem akan melalui Hotel Seri Malaysia, Taman Botanikal, Zoo Melaka, Masjid Al-Azim, Muzium, Dataran Pahlawan, Kelab Harbour, Kampung Hilir dan Hospital Putra.

Caj bayaran kemudahan trem tersebut juga dilihat mesra rakyat dan antara terendah di dunia iaitu RM2 untuk sekali perjalanan manakala RM5 bagi perjalanan sehari.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x8lMLH_qCKI/TWB4f12ip_I/AAAAAAAAJ7c/Fhdj5o0G7Ic/s1600/PM-Tram%2Bmlk007.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BvqsIC3INtY/TWB4funeA7I/AAAAAAAAJ7U/2kdyyPgm-zo/s1600/PM-Tram%2Bmlk001.jpg

^^ thanxs! but still its kinda of fishy to me :cheers:

^^
hes no t the one buiding mlk monorail,hes the one that want to build png monorail
and the tiny monorail are working n people r paying 10bucks to ride that

if u dont know,ask,dun jus make accusation ,there no need to be a smart arss right?:)

Monorail in Malacca is up n running? Since when? Where is the proof on newspaper? U r so smart... most likely just another ant... knows everything but "owns" nothing... LOL :lol:

Don't be rude if u r educated n civilized... unless stated otherwise :ohno:

come over and see it with your own freaking eyes lah

ye lah,i too know a certain ant in a far away land that can see the dust on top of play play monorail,while someone in melaka saw a totally different things:lol:

afterall a civilize human shouldn't make a mockery based on their own self ignorance:)

come over and see it with your own freaking eyes lah

ye lah,i too know a certain ant in a far away land that can see the dust on top of play play monorail,while someone in melaka saw a totally different things:lol:

Don't be rude if u r educated person... this is an International forum... Do U want other nationalities to judge Malaysians as rude n uncivilized? BOLEH?

I go Malacca once a month coz I own few commercial properties there (I am also another small ant)... will definitely check it out the monorail if my schedule permits...

Malacca prosperous = good biz/profit = good rental = $$$ :lol::banana:

^^
interestingly,i think u r among few that believe in melaka properties(along with PD n JB),most of the time u will see that people are calling it overprices,high risk,low rental yield and appreciation rate..

p.s. the rudeness of newyokers are what make them special n unik better to be yourself than to be a hipokrit that pretend sopan and fake smiles to get foreign investor,n u should head out to the asian n world section more to see how ''rude"they replied compared to mine,

He is apparently an automotive engineer although I'm sure his qualifications are not what he claims to be.

He did not have to convince everyone. He just had to convince a guy named Tengku Abdul Rahman Sultan Ahmad Shah.

Once that was accomplished, everyone from Ali Rustam to Najib all managed to convince themselves to get on the bandwagon (or should I say, tram wagon) with this guy.

You can search for more info on Jeyakumar on the anilnetto.com website.

Cheers, m


Contrary statement based on the articles above
Search on ROC reveals that MRails was only incorporated in Mid-2009 as contrary to the article above which claims its incorporation in 2006.

It appears onset, this's got all the ingredients of another "Ali-Baba" company (i.e. company which has no track record, credibility, accountability & characters) being awarded projects of high magnitudes that falls under 3P (Public Private Initiatives) jurisdiction.

We have seen in the past, similiar structured projects getting in hands of hastly incorporated companies with only "crony" acquaintances and at the end, its repercussions to its participating entities.:bash:

To all participating Contractors: understand your jobscope thoroughly and only place Bank Guarantees as bidding deposits.

To consultants : Collect a favourable deposit upon performing your studies.

To funders/ Investors/ Bankers : Get a corporate consultant to undertake a thorough due diligence before going out of pocket. :)

To Government agencies: Intergration and Pro-active attitude must be visible at all times. The implementation of SPAD is much applauded. But what matters after this is rapid action.

To Goverment Officials: It also appears that everyone has jumped into the bandwagon hoping for a free ride without performing the neccesary due diligence upon committing into this project. You not only fooled yourselfs but US, the RAKYAT. Let the countdown begin, May 2012 (i.e. 430 days +/-)...and counting..tick tock! :cheers:

Regards
Taboo

Contrary statement based on the articles above
Search on ROC reveals that MRails was only incorporated in Mid-2009 as contrary to the article above which claims its incorporation in 2006.

It appears onset, this's got all the ingredients of another "Ali-Baba" company (i.e. company which has no track record, credibility, accountability & characters) being awarded projects of high magnitudes that falls under 3P (Public Private Initiatives) jurisdiction.

We have seen in the past, similiar structured projects getting in hands of hastly incorporated companies with only "crony" acquaintances and at the end, its repercussions to its participating entities.:bash:

To all participating Contractors: understand your jobscope thoroughly and only place Bank Guarantees as bidding deposits.

To consultants : Collect a favourable deposit upon performing your studies.

To funders/ Investors/ Bankers : Get a corporate consultant to undertake a thorough due diligence before going out of pocket. :)

To Government agencies: Intergration and Pro-active attitude must be visible at all times. The implementation of SPAD is much applauded. But what matters after this is rapid action.

To Goverment Officials: It also appears that everyone has jumped into the bandwagon hoping for a free ride without performing the neccesary due diligence upon committing into this project. You not only fooled yourselfs but US, the RAKYAT. Let the countdown begin, May 2012 (i.e. 430 days +/-)...and counting..tick tock! :cheers:

Regards
Taboogood stuff. You should also mention what the role of the media should be in situations like this eg. investigating to find out the truth instead of simply parroting what is written in the press statement.

I've asked SPAD chairman to tell me whether the Melaka tramway falls under road or rail (or both) and when the 3months public display was held. Let's see what he has to say.

Cheers, m

^^
please included exclusive right of way also
what good is a tram that get stuck in traffic
n why choose the 1 meter gauge
what about the law regarding to trams?

where is those malaysiakini reporter when u needed them?:lol:

off topic... where are the monorail gone to? is it still under repair?

off topic... where are the monorail gone to? is it still under repair?

Monorel Melaka beroperasi semula

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/pix/2011/0224/utusan_malaysia/Selatan/ws_06.1.jpg
MONOREL Melaka merupakan salah satu kemudahan pengangkutan yang menggamit pelancong Melaka.

MELAKA 23 Feb. - Perkhidmatan Monorel Melaka di Taman Rempah Sungai Melaka di sini kembali beroperasi selepas ditutup tiga minggu bagi kerja-kerja naik taraf, sejak Disember tahun lalu.
Pengurus Melaka Taming Sari Bhd., Mohd. Husni Husin berkata, Monorel Melaka beroperasi semula sejak Januari lalu, namun orang ramai tidak mengetahuinya kerana menyangka ia masih ditutup.
Beliau percaya orang ramai masih keliru dengan status monorel tersebut sama ada beroperasi atau tidak disebabkan ia terpaksa ditutup beberapa kali sejak dilancarkan pada 20 Oktober lalu.
"Keadaan itu menyebabkan orang ramai keliru dan menyangka monorel ini masih ditutup untuk kerja-kerja pembaikan sedangkan ia telah beroperasi semula sejak Januari lalu.
"Monorel Melaka kini dibuka setiap hari bermula pukul 9.30 pagi hingga 10 malam dengan bayaran RM10 bagi dewasa dan RM5 bagi kanak-kanak untuk perjalanan pergi dan balik," katanya ketika dihubungi Utusan Malaysia di sini hari ini.
Perkhidmatan monorel bersebelahan Sungai Melaka itu dibina dengan kos RM15.9 juta dan dilancarkan oleh Ketua Menteri, Datuk Seri Mohd. Ali Rustam pada 20 Oktober lalu.
Ia menyusuri Sungai Melaka sejauh 1.6 kilometer dari Stesen Hang Jebat di Taman Rempah ke Stesen Hang Tuah di Jalan Bunga Raya sebelum berpatah balik ke Taman Rempah.
Bagaimanapun, tidak sampai empat jam ia dilancarkan, monorel di Stesen Hang Jebat terhenti secara tiba-tiba ketika orang ramai berada di dalamnya.
Dua hari selepas itu, pada 22 Oktober, ia beroperasi semula selepas masalah teknikal yang disebabkan oleh bekalan kuasa dibaiki, tetapi kembali tergendala pada November lalu.
Kali ini, kerosakan berlaku melibatkan roda yang terletak di bawah monorel itu yang patah.
Mengulas lanjut Mohd. Husni berkata, semua kerosakan yang berlaku sebelum ini sudah diperbaiki dan menepati semua kriteria keselamatan yang ditetapkan.
"Orang ramai tidak perlu bimbang terhadap tahap keselamatan monorel ini. Pengunjung juga akan diberikan potongan harga 20 peratus sekiranya membeli tiket pakej menaiki Monorel Melaka dan Menara Taming Sari di Banda Hilir," katanya.
Tambahnya, perkhidmatan Menara Taming Sari juga mengenakan harga tiket sama dengan monorel iaitu RM10 bagi setiap dewasa dan RM5 kanak-kanak.
Namun, dengan harga pakej jelasnya, pelancong tempatan berpeluang menaiki kedua-dua produk pelancongan itu dengan harga RM18 bagi setiap dewasa dan RM8 bagi kanak-kanak.

:nuts:Monorel Melaka beroperasi semula

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/pix/2011/0224/utusan_malaysia/Selatan/ws_06.1.jpg
MONOREL Melaka merupakan salah satu kemudahan pengangkutan yang menggamit pelancong Melaka.

MELAKA 23 Feb. - Perkhidmatan Monorel Melaka di Taman Rempah Sungai Melaka di sini kembali beroperasi selepas ditutup tiga minggu bagi kerja-kerja naik taraf, sejak Disember tahun lalu.
Pengurus Melaka Taming Sari Bhd., Mohd. Husni Husin berkata, Monorel Melaka beroperasi semula sejak Januari lalu, namun orang ramai tidak mengetahuinya kerana menyangka ia masih ditutup.
Beliau percaya orang ramai masih keliru dengan status monorel tersebut sama ada beroperasi atau tidak disebabkan ia terpaksa ditutup beberapa kali sejak dilancarkan pada 20 Oktober lalu.
"Keadaan itu menyebabkan orang ramai keliru dan menyangka monorel ini masih ditutup untuk kerja-kerja pembaikan sedangkan ia telah beroperasi semula sejak Januari lalu.
"Monorel Melaka kini dibuka setiap hari bermula pukul 9.30 pagi hingga 10 malam dengan bayaran RM10 bagi dewasa dan RM5 bagi kanak-kanak untuk perjalanan pergi dan balik," katanya ketika dihubungi Utusan Malaysia di sini hari ini.
Perkhidmatan monorel bersebelahan Sungai Melaka itu dibina dengan kos RM15.9 juta dan dilancarkan oleh Ketua Menteri, Datuk Seri Mohd. Ali Rustam pada 20 Oktober lalu.
Ia menyusuri Sungai Melaka sejauh 1.6 kilometer dari Stesen Hang Jebat di Taman Rempah ke Stesen Hang Tuah di Jalan Bunga Raya sebelum berpatah balik ke Taman Rempah.
Bagaimanapun, tidak sampai empat jam ia dilancarkan, monorel di Stesen Hang Jebat terhenti secara tiba-tiba ketika orang ramai berada di dalamnya.
Dua hari selepas itu, pada 22 Oktober, ia beroperasi semula selepas masalah teknikal yang disebabkan oleh bekalan kuasa dibaiki, tetapi kembali tergendala pada November lalu.
Kali ini, kerosakan berlaku melibatkan roda yang terletak di bawah monorel itu yang patah.
Mengulas lanjut Mohd. Husni berkata, semua kerosakan yang berlaku sebelum ini sudah diperbaiki dan menepati semua kriteria keselamatan yang ditetapkan.
"Orang ramai tidak perlu bimbang terhadap tahap keselamatan monorel ini. Pengunjung juga akan diberikan potongan harga 20 peratus sekiranya membeli tiket pakej menaiki Monorel Melaka dan Menara Taming Sari di Banda Hilir," katanya.
Tambahnya, perkhidmatan Menara Taming Sari juga mengenakan harga tiket sama dengan monorel iaitu RM10 bagi setiap dewasa dan RM5 kanak-kanak.
Namun, dengan harga pakej jelasnya, pelancong tempatan berpeluang menaiki kedua-dua produk pelancongan itu dengan harga RM18 bagi setiap dewasa dan RM8 bagi kanak-kanak.

RM10.00/ ride!!!!! You gotta be kidding me!!! :nuts: Economically, RM10.00 for 1.6km is no longer convinient, thus not viable.

So Looks like we are paying a premium for a hazardous, hastly assembled monorail sold by some salesmen whom had no objectives or desires besides making sum quick bucks into their own coffers. wunderbar, geht es fallen!!!:cheers:

For tourists, RM$10 is really peanut... but the experience of the ride must be good... I'll try it next month when I visit Malacca...

there is a package together wif Menara Taming Sari whr RM 18 for both..

For tourists, RM$10 is really peanut... but the experience of the ride must be good... I'll try it next month when I visit Malacca...

I'm a Malaysian, but when I travel to Melaka, I'm a tourist, a local tourist.
Now if you are saying that this (ripped off) monorail fare is cheap for the RAKYAT (opps tourist :lol:), then lets crunch some facts and numbers correctly:-

Lets take the Sentosa Express in Singapore (http://www.sentosa.sg/about_us/press_releases/press_release20061204_factsheet.html)as a comparision.

(a) CAPEX
Melaka Monorail = RM15.9M
Sentosa Express = SGD140.0M @ RM327.6M

(b) Total Distance (Track)
Melaka Monorail = 1.6KM
Sentosa Express = 4.3KM

(c) No. of Carriage way
Melaka Monorail = 1 way Line
Sentosa Express = 2 way line

(d) No. of Stations
Melaka Monorail = 2
Sentosa Express = 4

(e) Rolling Stock
Melaka Monorail = 1 (3-car Set)=3
Sentosa Express = 6 (2-car car set)=12


Now lets crunch these numbers:-
(f) Cost/KM (a/b)
Melaka Monorail = RM9.94M
Sentosa Express = RM76.2KM


(g) Real Cost (f/d/e)
Melaka Monorail = RM1.65M/car/km
Sentosa Express = RM1.59M/car/km


Now see WHAT U GET BACK!!

Monorail Speed
Melaka Monorail = up to 15km/h
Sentosa Express = up to 50km/h


No. of passengers
Melaka Monorail = 24 /train set
Sentosa Express = 184/ train set


Standard Comm.& Safety
Melaka Monorail = Yes
Sentosa Express = Yes


Manufacturer
Melaka Monorail = Made in China
Sentosa Express = Hitachi (Japan)


And now, jimbo! see what you are paying for:-

Ticket Cost
Melaka Monorail-RM10/1.6km= RM6.25/km @USD2.00/KM(+/-)
Sentosa Express - SGD3.00/4.3km=SGD0.7/km @USD0.55/KM(+/-)
Note: figures and fact were abstracted directly from wikipedia and the Melaka (http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/melakamonorailbrochure2.jpg) & Sentosa Monorail brochures (http://www.sentosa.sg/about_us/press_releases/press_release20061204_factsheet.html).


And now you know why, a RM13.2-million extension has been approved not by federal but by the state. :cheers:


Regards

Taboo

This is a ride for tourist. When I visited Melaka, the Melaka River Boat Ride is also RM10, and it is very popular with tourists- Local tourist included. These rides should be profitable for it to be maintained not subsidized and loss making.

never try genting indoor themepark kah?
1 ride 8bucks, and genting monorail,giant wheel,boat ride is far far shorter n boring

Thats what happens when u go for cheap stuff...they break! What upgrading work? That toy train barely operates!

For tourists, RM$10 is really peanut... but the experience of the ride must be good... I'll try it next month when I visit Malacca...

I'm a Malaysian, but when I travel to Melaka, I'm a tourist..a local tourist.

Now if you are saying that this ride is cheap, well lets then get the facts and figures straight before we start making any assumptions.

For this purpose lets take the Sentosa Express in Singapore (http://www.sentosa.sg/about_us/press_releases/press_release20061204_factsheet.html)as a comparison to the Melaka Monorail (http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/melakamonorailbrochure2.jpg).


(a) CAPEX
Melaka Monorail - RM15.9M
Sentosa Express - SGD140.00M @ RM327.6M

(b) Total Track Distance
Melaka Monorail - 1.6KM
Sentosa Express - 4.3KM

(c) No.of Stations
Melaka Monorail - 2
Sentosa Express - 4

(d) Rolling Stock
Melaka Monorail - 1 (3-car/set) = 3
Sentosa Express - 6 (2-car/set) = 12


Now, lets crunch these numbers:-


(e) Cost / KM (a/b)
Melaka Monorail - RM9.94M
Sentosa Express - RM76.19M

(f) Effective Cost (e/c/d)
Melaka Monorail - RM1.66M
Sentosa Express - RM1.59M


Now, Lets see what we get back in return,

1) No. of Carriageway
Melaka Monorail - Single Carriageway
Sentosa Express - Dual Carriageway

2) Monorail Speed
Melaka Monorail - up to 15km/h
Sentosa Express - up to 50km/h

3) No. of passengers
Melaka Monorail - 24
Sentosa Express - 184

4) Communication and Safety System
Melaka Monorail - Yes
Sentosa Express - Yes

5) Manufacturer
Melaka Monorail - Made in China
Sentosa Express - Hitachi (Japan)


Now Jimbo, lets see what you are paying for:-

1) Ticket Cost
Melaka Monorail - RM10.00/1.6KM=RM6.25/KM @ USD2.00/KM (+/-)
Sentosa Express - SGD3.00/4.3KM=SGD0.7/KM @ USD0.55/KM(+/-)

Source: Wikiedia, Melaka Monorial & Sentosa Express Brochures

So, now you know why the state government, again hastily approved an extension on this monorail project worth RM13.2-million, despite phase 1 was barely in service.:cheers:


Regards

Taboo

This is a ride for tourist. When I visited Melaka, the Melaka River Boat Ride is also RM10, and it is very popular with tourists- Local tourist included. These rides should be profitable for it to be maintained not subsidized and loss making.

So, you are saying that this ripped off monorail is more or less a "theme-park" monorail that serve a single particular reason i.e. moving so-called "tourist" right into menara taming sari. Just for info, the walt disney monorail i.e over 23km lenght is absolutely free, also serves one singular or rather i would just say common reason.:)


Regards

Taboo

wow... impressive statistics and analysis... sorry, I'm not really into politics (don't give it a shit)... I am a 100% property investor (particularly in Malacca) so all I hope to see is a vibrant and prosperous Malacca... that's all I care about Malacca...

I visit Malacca once a month (from SG) and the spending there is really cheap... I will try to help to raise the local GDP by spending more $$$... LOL (just kidding lah)

This is a ride for tourist. When I visited Melaka, the Melaka River Boat Ride is also RM10, and it is very popular with tourists- Local tourist included. These rides should be profitable for it to be maintained not subsidized and loss making.

Agree. Last time I took a ride on the duck boat... can't recall how much I paid but it was 80% full... It was quite a pleasant ride and mainly (90%) are tourists

So, you are saying that this ripped off monorail is more or less a "theme-park" monorail that serve a single particular reason i.e. moving so-called "tourist" right into menara taming sari. Just for info, the walt disney monorail i.e over 23km lenght is absolutely free, also serves one singular or rather i would just say common reason.:)


Regards

Taboo

u can't take the monorail to menara taming sari
nor that it perform any kind of transit function
u just ride the damn thing for fun,and thats it
so does the boat,it does not function as any transit function at all

it does the same function as the monorail and boat ride in genting,FOR FUN PURPOSE ONLY

and comparing it with an attraction that perform some kind of transit function like the sydney,sentosa and walt disney monorail are void as the different in function and target market are different

u could however,compared those monorail wirh the tram that they gonna build,but the question remain,do we WANT a novelty attraction+some transit function or a serius transit system

There is some kind of people in Malaysia that wanted the project to be completed in a short time and gain more benefits......
They don't care about the quality chosen......

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/dengilo/DSC00842.jpg
Option 1 if not this will do http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/dengilo/DSC01011.jpg:banana:

If they do sth like Shanghai tram also quite nice

Dear M,

Its been more than a month now. Any news from SPAD? Got this extract from Transit's Comment column, interesting stuff.. (by John)

"Dato Jeya Kumar A/L Varathan or as his newly designated title “Mr. Tram extraordinaire” or “Tram wannabe” has been making headlines recently with his plans of introducing the newest mode of transport exclusively for the “rakyat” of Melaka. Why Melaka? Recent news amplified by the Chief Minister of Melaka on the traffic and congestion in the state has perpetuated the need to come up with an alternative mode of transport to ease the traffic inflow especially on weekends. On this issue various transport experts have tried to impress the Melaka State government by trying to on a new mode of transport but sadly till to date the fact of the matter is that none of the modes introduced were able to kick off and one wonders why…Aerobus?? Melaka Monorail??

In order to understand and appreciate what the fuss is all about, an explanation on what actually is happening needs to be detailed out. In the year 2010, precisely in the month of March, the 3rd to be exact Mr. Tram formed a joint venture company with a local 3rd party to undertake the tram project in Melaka and a principal agreement was executed between the government and this joint venture company to effectualise this project. The timelines involved and agreed upon was that the project was to be completed within a time frame of 1 year from the 3rd of March 2010. Till today the rakyat is still waiting to see the first tram car in action but sadly none is there let alone the tracks for the tram are still missing. What happened? A common engineer’s question would be where is the tracks for the tram to roll on? A common architect’s query would be where are the trams going to be housed? In a building? If yes where is the building or depot? In the river? Or is it invincible? A common Melakanian having domiciled in the State is crying out for an answer but his cries have gone unheeded….until someone highlights this matter in the newspaper.

Lets gets into some interesting facts here, if one was to take the time to investigate this matter further a good starting point would be Mr. Tram’s company website Mrails international.com which is pretty impressive for a company which has no experience in delivering such a project anywhere in the world be it Africa or India. If indeed the company had done or constructed such a project before the website will be full of such pictures….again where are those pictures or news or advertisement congratulating the Company for work well done or evidencing the so called trams in motion??? Once again none!! Upon a careful perusal there is a picture taken on the day Mr. Tram signed a contract with CNR (the manufacturer of the intended trams) which clearly mentions of the trams being delivered to Malaysia in August 2011..are we missing out something here? The trams were supposed to reach the shores of Melaka in February 2011 and not August 2011!!!! What could have possibly caused the delay?? Rather strange as no mention made on what is causing the delay. As prudent think tanks of the business community one can only come up with only one glaring reason which is there was no contract signed at all between the parties!!!! Therefore was it a hoax deliberately to blind the eyes of the common man? Let Mr. Tram answer as only he can.

What is more interesting is that Mr. Tram is being sued for reneging on an Agreement for the sale of shares in the joint venture company which was formed to undertake the project in 2010 and as a consequence of the said refusal to honour his part of the Agreement a writ has been filed in the Kuala Lumpur High Court for a substantial amount of monies due and owing to the recipients. The suit no is D-22NCC-271-2011 and was heard today. What could possibly be the contents of the Writ is much left to be desired. Anyone able to proffer an answer???"


Barely a month since they launched the ground breaking ceremony, they are now suing eachother!!!! :bash:

We Mallacans, we can just hope for the best...:banana::banana::banana:


Taboo


good stuff. You should also mention what the role of the media should be in situations like this eg. investigating to find out the truth instead of simply parroting what is written in the press statement.

I've asked SPAD chairman to tell me whether the Melaka tramway falls under road or rail (or both) and when the 3months public display was held. Let's see what he has to say.

Cheers, m

well, i'm glad they are sueing each other:)

a badly design solution,will make thing worst and won't solve anything

Dear M,

Its been more than a month now. Any news from SPAD? Got this extract from Transit's Comment column, interesting stuff.. (by John)

Taboono response yet. We keep pushing for information but no one will tell us.

Cheers, m

visit them at melaka mall...you guys can say/ask anything.....

Orang Ramai Boleh Mulai Beri Pandangan Trem Melaka Hingga 16 April 2012

MELAKA, 16 Jan 2012 (Bernama) -- Satu pameran awam bagi projek pembinaan dan pembangunan Trem Melaka diadakan di Melaka Mall di sini bermula Isnin sehingga 16 April depan.

Ketua Menteri Melaka Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam berkata pameran selama tiga bulan itu memberi peluang untuk orang ramai memberi pandangan serta melihat sendiri model Trem Melaka serta membuat bantahan.

"Saya percaya, pembinaan trem bernilai RM272 juta ini dapat mengurangkan kesesakan lalu lintas sekurang-kurangnya 20-30 peratus terutamanya dari Ayer Keroh ke Pusat Bandar ketika musim cuti atau waktu puncak," katanya.

Beliau berkata demikian kepada pemberita selepas merasmikan Majlis Pelancaran Pameran Awam Projek Pembinaan dan Pembangunan Perkhidmatan Trem Melaka di Melaka Mall di sini hari ini.

Katanya pelaksanaan projek usahasama kerajaan negeri Melaka menerusi Perbadanan Ketua Menteri Melaka (CMI) dan MRails International Sdn Bhd (MRails) itu dijangka siap dalam tempoh setahun selepas projek dilaksanakan bermula April depan.

Mohd Ali berkata laluan sepanjang 20 km itu akan menuju ke Pusat Bandar dari Tol Ayer Keroh dengan melalui 32 perhentian.

Antara laluan trem ialah Hotel Seri Malaysia, Taman Botanikal, Zoo Melaka, Pusat Dagangan Antarabangsa Melaka (MITC), Taman Muzaffar Shah, Hospital Pantai, Dataran Pahlawan, Hospital Mahkota, Kelab Harbour, Hotel Equitorial dan Bukit Baru.

"Depoh atau stesen utama Trem akan bermula di Plaza Tol Ayer Keroh di kawasan seluas 20 hektar dengan kemudahan 2,000 hingga 3,000 tapak letak kenderaan," katanya.

Beliau berkata 10 trem akan beroperasi setiap hari bagi setiap 10 minit bermula jam 5.00 pagi sehingga 1.00 pagi yang dikendalikan oleh pemandu dengan sistem komunikasi tanpa wayar berkelajuan 40 hingga 60 km/jam.

Setiap trem buatan China itu memiliki dua gerabak yang mampu memuatkan 120 penumpang pada satu masa dengan kelengkapan sistem pendingin udara.

Mohd Ali berkata kadar tambang yang dikenakan ialah RM2 bagi satu perjalanan manakala bagi warga emas berusia 55 tahun ke atas dan murid-murid sekolah yang beruniform adalah percuma.

Majlis pecah tanah projek itu dirasmikan oleh Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak pada Februari tahun lepas.

this is another opinion

Trem bagi atasi kesesakan di bandar Melaka


MELAKA, 14 Jan 2012 (Malaysiakini) -- Pakataan Rakyat di Melaka tiada sebarang bantahan berhubung projek pembinaan dan pembangunan trem Melaka yang dikatakan bagi mengatasi masalah kesesakan lalulintas.

NONEBagaimanapun, kata ahli parlimen Kota Melaka, Sim Tong Him (tengah), pembinaan tersebut perlu difikirkan semasak-masaknya dan orang ramai perlu tampil memberikan pandangan menerusi pameran awam yang diadakan.

Menurutnya, pandangan perlu berkisar mengenai adakah kemudahan itu nanti yang membabitkan kos binaan berjumlah RM272 juta benar-benar dapat mengurangkan masalah kesesakan lalu-lintas di Melaka.

"Kita bimbang dengan perbelanjaan RM272 juta ini, sekiranya kemudahan ini tidak dapat sambutan sudah pasti rakyat perlu menanggung keseluruhan hutang ini.

"Ini kerana, projek tersebut dibangunkan oleh Syarikat Mrails Tram International (Melaka) Sdn Bhd dan akan dibayar balik menerusi Perbadanan Ketua Menteri dalam tempoh 20 tahun," katanya.

melaka straits of malacca 120307 recreationalJelas Sim, pihaknya juga bimbang adakah orang ramai akan berminat menggunakan kemudahan itu sedangkan punca kesesakan sebenar adalah disebabkan oleh pelancong luar ketika hujung minggu dan musim cuti umum.

"Dengan kemudahan laluan yang terlalu terhad saya tidak fikir orang ramai khusus pelancong akan menggunakan kemudahan ini.

"Ia menyediakan laluan sepanjang 20 kilometer menuju ke pusat bandar dari Tol Ayer Keroh dengan melalui 32 perhentian.

"Antara laluan trem ialah Hotel Seri Malaysia, Taman Botanikal, Zoo Melaka, Pusat Dagangan Antarabangsa Melaka (MITC), Taman Muzaffar Shah, Hospital Pantai, Dataran Pahlawan, Hospital Mahkota, Kelab Harbour, Hotel Equitorial dan Bukit Baru," katanya.

NONESementara itu, ADUN Ayer Keroh, Khoo Poay Tiong (kiri) berkata, kerajaan negeri sepatutnya lebih menumpukan aspek kemudahan pengangkutan awam daripada mengeluarkan belanja besar untuk melaksanakan projek itu.

"Setakat ini, di Melaka tiada satu pun sistem penggangkutan awam yang sempurna termasuk bas dan teksi.

"Sepatutnya dengan perbelanjaan RM272 juta kita merasakan lagi wajar mereka mempertingkatkan bas awam dan teksi seperti negara jiran, Singapura yang jauh lebih sempurna. Malah itu lebih penting daripada Trem Melaka," katanya.

Beliau berkata, di Melaka turut mengalami masalah kekurangan tempat letak kereta di kawasan-kawasan penting khusus di pusat bandar.

"Kebanyakan pengunjung luar merungut disebabkan setiap kali masuk ke bandar, tiada kemudahan tempat letak kereta dan sekiranya ada ia tidak mencukupi.

"Sebab itu langkah segera yang sepatutnya dilakukan kerajaan dengan membina tempat letak kereta bertingkat yang tidak memerlukan belanja yang tinggi," katanya.

Projek tersebut dijangka dijangka siap dalam tempoh setahun selepas projek dilaksanakan bermula April depan.

melaka monorail track 150310 tramSekiranya siapnya nanti, sebanyak 10 trem akan beroperasi setiap hari bagi setiap 10 minit bermula pukul 5 pagi sehingga pukul 1 pagi yang dikendalikan oleh pemandu dengan sistem komunikasi tanpa wayar berkelajuan 40 hingga 60 kilometer sejam.

Setiap trem buatan China itu memiliki dua gerabak yang mampu memuatkan 120 penumpang pada satu masa dengan kelengkapan sistem pendingin udara.

Kadar tambang yang dikenakan ialah RM2 bagi satu perjalanan manakala bagi warga emas berusia 55 tahun ke atas dan murid-murid sekolah yang beruniform adalah percuma.

Majlis pecah tanah projek itu dirasmikan oleh Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Najib Razak pada Februari tahun lalu.

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"Saya percaya, pembinaan trem bernilai RM272 juta ini dapat mengurangkan kesesakan lalu lintas sekurang-kurangnya 20-30 peratus terutamanya dari Ayer Keroh ke Pusat Bandar ketika musim cuti atau waktu puncak," katanya.
Thats for sure!

Katanya pelaksanaan projek usahasama kerajaan negeri Melaka menerusi Perbadanan Ketua Menteri Melaka (CMI) dan MRails International Sdn Bhd (MRails) itu dijangka siap dalam tempoh setahun selepas projek dilaksanakan bermula April depan.

Not sure about MRails!
Mohd Ali berkata laluan sepanjang 20 km itu akan menuju ke Pusat Bandar dari Tol Ayer Keroh dengan melalui 32 perhentian.

Way too many stops

"Depoh atau stesen utama Trem akan bermula di Plaza Tol Ayer Keroh di kawasan seluas 20 hektar dengan kemudahan 2,000 hingga 3,000 tapak letak kenderaan," katanya.

Thats good perhaps even more would be better
Beliau berkata 10 trem akan beroperasi setiap hari bagi setiap 10 minit bermula jam 5.00 pagi sehingga 1.00 pagi yang dikendalikan oleh pemandu dengan sistem komunikasi tanpa wayar berkelajuan 40 hingga 60 km/jam.
Way to slow!
Setiap trem buatan China itu memiliki dua gerabak yang mampu memuatkan 120 penumpang pada satu masa dengan kelengkapan sistem pendingin udara.
Alamak china again?
Mohd Ali berkata kadar tambang yang dikenakan ialah RM2 bagi satu perjalanan manakala bagi warga emas berusia 55 tahun ke atas dan murid-murid sekolah yang beruniform adalah percuma.
Thats reasonable.
Majlis pecah tanah projek itu dirasmikan oleh Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak pada Februari tahun lepas.[/I]

Wah sudah pecah tanah:lol:just like the aeroline thingy:lol:

"Depoh atau stesen utama Trem akan bermula di Plaza Tol Ayer Keroh di kawasan seluas 20 hektar dengan kemudahan 2,000 hingga 3,000 tapak letak kenderaan," katanya.


who would want to park their car 20km away with the security in doubt and there will be connectivity problem in view of the present state of our public transport

Melaka tram project is so cheapskate, it looks like some kind of stone age tram. Please take a look:

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Compare with trams in other UNESCO heritage cities like Berne (Switzerland), Barcelona (Spain) and Modena (Italy), the Melaka future tram is a big gigantic joke, it seems like North Korean standard:

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