All I know is Rosedale...I'm pretty sure there's more but I don't really like them. They're always filled with snobbish people who always think they're better than everyone else just because they "higher class". But I'm just curious...

Well there's Rosedale, Kingsway, Mount Pleasant, the area around Casa Loma Wychwood or whatever its called, Yorkville, various areas in North York, Etobicoke. I always thought of York region like Richmond Hill and Markham as rich people. Almost every other car is a Mercedes.

That's a pretty broad generalization. With dumb comments like that it doesn't suprise me that people think they're better than you.

EDIT.

"but I don't really like them. They're always filled with snobbish people who always think they're better than everyone else just because they "higher class". "



Yikes!!!!

God knows I've read enough bad comments around here (and contibuted a few no doubt)....but that may actually be the dumbest thing I've read yet.






KGB

Anyways...to stick to the topic....in terms of highest average household income or highest average value of homes....this is easily taken by the Bridle Path.

Toronto's other "wealthiest" neighbourhoods are....

Rosedale
Chaplin Estates
Forest Hill
Lytton Park
Moore Park
The Kingsway
South Hill
St Andrews
York Mills
Lawrence Park
Humber Valley
Banbury
Bennington Heights
Windfields
Princess Anne Manor
Teddington Park
Rathnelly
Thorncrest Village
Governors Bridge
Wanless Park


There are many other nabes that would be considered "wealthy" or exclusive, but they are a bit more mixed....like Bobby Point, Swansea, Annex, Yorkville, etc.







KGB

Wouldn't The Annex be on that list too?

The Annex is one hell of a great neighbourhood, and certainly has plenty of gorgeous homes...but it's very mixed income. The fact it is not an "exclusive" nabe, is why it is a great neighbourhood.

Bridle Path may have the highest household income, the largest and most expensive homes....but as a "great" neighbourhood, it practically sucks.






KGB

....but as a "great" neighbourhood, it practically sucks.


I doubt most neighbours even know each other by name.

BTW they do have some decrepit homes on the Bridle Path as well, but the location and lot size keep prices high.

^LOL. "Hey there's the family that makes 20 million a year. Lets invite him to our christmas party. Let's see what he brings. Wait, isnt that the guy who makes 100 k, no lets stay clear of him." :(

I toured around the nabe a few weeks ago, while I was on a big hike up the Don Valley. Hung out in Edwards Gardens for a while and decided to tour around to see some of the new homes u/c. There's very few of the old origional homes left...they have all been, or in the process of being ripped down to make room for monstrocities.

The one that really takes the cake, is this massive 45,000 sqft thing...it's beyond ridiculous. And there were quite a few just like it u/c. They look like versions of Buckingham Palace. LOL!!

Quite a few cannot even be seen, as they are hidden behind trees and landscaping, as the lots range between 2 and 7 acres.

There seems to be a lot of money, but some fairly questionable taste.


I took a few pics...maybe I'll post them later.






KGB

The Bridle Path contains close to 500 homes....and they all pretty much look like this....


Check out this monstrosity...it's very hard to determine scale from these pics....but the front doors are about 12 feet high.

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Another new monstrocity...this one was actually completed a few years ago, and was for sale for $20 million....I don't think it has any takers

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Here's a few new ones under construction....


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A lot of them you can only get a glimpse of them or you can't see them at all...just big gates and landscaping....not much neighbourly interaction going on around here. LOL

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http://img7.exs.cx/img7/63/PICT8629.jpg

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/8392/PICT8649.jpg

http://img6.exs.cx/img6/2930/PICT8650.jpg

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Here's what one of the origional homes look like....they were generally very nice, but more modest ranch-style homes on very big lots...

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Here's another origional....this one is practically all underground...it has a very Frank Loyd Wright kind of design to it...as does it's impecably minimalist but tastefull landscaping...

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KGB

All I know is Rosedale...I'm pretty sure there's more but I don't really like them. They're always filled with snobbish people who always think they're better than everyone else just because they "higher class". But I'm just curious...

hmm, no, those who work with the uber-rich know that they are the most humble of all. you don't know them cause you name rosedale!

there are rich wannabes which are assholes, and nothing but assholes, usually in debt yet spend a lot. stay away from them.

Post Road area around Bathurst and Lawrence where Prince has his home.

hmm, no, those who work with the uber-rich know that they are the most humble of all. you don't know them cause you name rosedale!

there are rich wannabes which are assholes, and nothing but assholes, usually in debt yet spend a lot. stay away from them.

What's with the generalizations? Just like with everyone else, those with money can be nice, not so nice, or arseholes. How silly.

"hmm, no, those who work with the uber-rich know that they are the most humble of all. you don't know them cause you name rosedale!

there are rich wannabes which are assholes, and nothing but assholes, usually in debt yet spend a lot. stay away from them."

WTF? Rosedale?

Yea....as far as very wealthy nabes go, I would say Rosedale is the least pretentious of them. It probably also has the highest rate of transit or walking or cyclers of any very wealthy neighbourhood.





KGB

Bridlepath is definitely not the place to bring brownies over for the new neighbours.

I don't like it. It looks so 'gotti'. For an inner city neighbourhood I find it a waste of land use but whatever - there's obviously a market for this sort of housing.

Oakville seems to be the new hotspot for monster homes these days.

Those aren't houses...they're castles.

I forgot... Mississauga Rd south of Dundas St

Bridle Path isn't a neighborhood, it's a street... I guess with Park and High Point you could call it a neighborhood, but that's still only 3 streets.

"Bridle Path isn't a neighborhood, it's a street"


Like a lot of neighbourhoods, it has a street with the same name.

So...of course Bridle Path is a neighbourhood...a rather large and very distinctive one at that.

I believe Toronto's most expensive house would be Conrad Black's 11 acre estate in the Bridle Path...supposedly valued at $32.5 million.






KGB

damn thats big, those gates alone cost more then my house

Poor old Conrad eh...apparantly he is interested in selling his $33 million mansion in Kensington, London...and briefly had his $36 million Palm Beach mansion on the market before pulling it.

This guy has over $100 million in private residences...as well as the Bridle Path house, he also has a $10 million Park Ave apartment.

Since he gave up his Cdn citizenship to take that seat in the House of Lords, you'd think he would rather put up his Toronto house....but at $32.5 million, it's basically unsellable in the Toronto market....who the hell would pay that much for a house in Toronto?

The Toronto mansion has a domed roof modelled on St. Peter's Basilica in Rome with a chapel consecrated by Toronto's Roman Catholic archbishop.




KGB

Perhaps he should try to sell it for a mere $20 million instead.

ati founder, ho is it? he is building a house in the area for a cost of about 60 mil

Those houses are so vulgar. It has to be one of the major disappointments that people with money are so ostentatious and build shite that ought to be ripped down. A real shame and a disgrace to them.

There is no in between ---Rosdale is full of very down- to -earth people who happen to be stinking wealthy, and freaking huge, big time, jerk off, in debt ass holes! You know-- go ahead, reposes my BMW, it was too materialistic anyway ! (The old scumbag cry form the late '80's early 90's market collapse.)

I don't get it- what's this talk about wealthy people living in Toronto? I though all the millionaires lived in shit townhouses in Brampton. 905 is where all the wealthy live- right? They live there because they cannot afford equivalent housing in Toronto, but still, they are wealthier than the people in 416- we all know that to be true. So, how come its list of wealthy areas, oh - don't forget Lawrence Park- are in 416. Unless, of course, the fact is that property values are higher in 416, and all this talk about an uber wealthy 905 tax dodge is a load of crap.

I noticed alot of those large homes had large gates guarding them.

AreBe, the are perhaps more very wealthy people living in Toronto than in the 905. The 905 has more middle class people and Toronto has more lower income people so the average income is higher in the 905.

Marrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrkkkkkkkkhaaaaaaaam!!!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

"I noticed alot of those large homes had large gates guarding them."


I think that's just because it's the thing people do now...it's not like you need it for security. The origional houses never had them. But this neighbourhood is very different than any other in the city...it's the only one with minimum lot size of 2 acres. And the "houses" they've been building here are all just for show anyway....so gates are just part of the ego trip.






KGB

I actually don't mind decorative gates. I like ironwork. These put me in mind of the ones you might see in and around Newport RI. Interestingly enough, the fifth house KGB shows appears to be an exact copy of Stanford White's beautiful Rosecliff in Newport, which was itself a free-wheeling interpretation of the Petit Trianon.

Although somehow I suspect the production values aren't what they once were...

"If you say that Preston is a really bad place, then you are wrong. Your opinion is based on a stereotype that is old. You should not make judgements on what you hear. Preston IS a good place"

I have never said Trepson is bad. im sure its a very nice place in its class.
;)

Forest Hill is my favorite rich nabe, especially with its own little town square. I always liked taking a drive up Spadina from the Annex, around Castle Loma, and through Forest Hill. It's a quick way up to Eglinton with a nice scenery of fine homes and trees.

My favorite fine-home walking nabe would be the patch of houses along Indian Road between Roncesvalles and High Park. The houses are gorgeous and the tree canopy is great. Living right next to the Park must be amazing.

I have never said Trepson is bad. im sure its a very nice place in its class.
;)
lol, thats for the predjudice of many UK forumers that believe my home city is some sort of hellhole when its completely untrue. Same sort of predjudice that T.O gets from other Canadian forumers sometimes...

"Bridle Path isn't a neighborhood, it's a street"


Like a lot of neighbourhoods, it has a street with the same name.

So...of course Bridle Path is a neighbourhood...a rather large and very distinctive one at that.

I believe Toronto's most expensive house would be Conrad Black's 11 acre estate in the Bridle Path...supposedly valued at $32.5 million.






KGB
I still don't think 3 streets constitutes a neighborhood.

Well, first of all, there are more than 3 streets...here is a list of the streets in that neighbourhood...

The Bridle Path
Country lane
Timberglade Crt
Hyde Park Circle
Bridle Heath Gt
Park Lane Circle
High point Rd
Bayview Ave
Lawrence Ave E
Araz Point
Glenorchy Rd
Saintfield Ave
Royal Oak Drive
Chapleau Pt
Shady oaks Cr
Suncrest Dr
Salonica Rd
Peebles Ave
Pool Place
Big Pine Rd
Crete Crt


Neighbourhoods are not designated by how many streets there are. Due to the unusual nature of the neighbourhood having extremely large lots, the "blocks" are very big. There is a small portion of the nabe on it's southern end that has much smaller lots and nice, but non-palatial homes.

This neighbourhood is distinct physically, because of it's built form and because it is almost an island, accessable only by one spot off bayview and off lawrence Ave. It's also distinctive by it's demographics.

All in all, how you could not designate it as a VERY distinctive neighbourhood is strange, let alone just "any" neighbourhood.






KGB

Yeah, well most of those streets aren't really all that rich. All the "rich" houses are on the streets I mentioned. Anyway, it doesn't matter all that much.

Well, you are just plain wrong.

Why keep it up if it doesn't matter? Just admit you are wrong and we'll call it a day.






KGB

How about no.

KGB and Bridlepath area...

This area is full of monstrosities-generally. but there are, as you maybe tried to show, some real great gems hidden amongst them. Unfortunately, the majority of people who build these over-dimensioned garbage bins, are lacking a sense of taste. (all opinions are mine and subject to change). Personally, i do not believe that taste can be bought, as one sees in these pictures..

p5

there are some rediculously massive homes just outside the GTA, up near Canada's Wonderland in King City. Some have some really bizarre designs too. There's one I remember that's very James Bond-ish.... round with an almost miniature CN Tower shape to it... sorta like that crazy home in the Charlies Angels movie where Drew Berrymore crashes through the window. I'd love to see some pictures of those houses if anyone has.

Somebody call the O-pair-repair-a-medics cause that guy in a rush has something massive jammed up his ass (likely to compensate for his little buddy in front).

(solution available)

The Post Road ranch-style bungalows from the '50's and '60's were large, but modest in comparison to the pretentious monstrosities they've been building there in recent years. And they tended to be contemporary/modern in style too, not pretentious faux French Chateaux rubbish. But I think that in those days they were mostly built for wealthy WASP locals, rather than showoff Russian new-money mafia or whatever. I visited the Basset family home in that neighbourhood several years ago ( in the days when Carling was still playing ) and I was surprised by how ordinary the interior was. Nothing showy, nothing that you might expect "rich people" to furnish their home with. Rather dull, actually, but with a huge garden and tennis courts.