Belgrade's new trolleybuses

[Kommandant Mark]

Just arrived from Belarus , made by Belkommunmash company:)
City orderered a few dozen of them, to refurbish its fleet, from both Belarus and Russia, with Russian types soon to arrive.

Note the orange color - all future trolleys in Belgrade will be in this color, while buses will be yellow, trams red and metro in blue color.

http://www.wiesbaden-team.de/newtro.jpg

http://www.wiesbaden-team.de/newtro1.jpg

[cityscape]

the new Belgrade trolleys look really nice. Am i mistaken or are they articulated buses. Hopefully Vancouver will do the same as Belgrade and replace its aging fleet of trolley buses with these articulated trolleys to accommodate the growth in the region but at the same time remain environmentally friendly (zero emissions).

One of Vancouver's aging trolley buseshttp://photo.natransit.com/bc_van/bc_van_2706.jpg

[stockholm79]

Just arrived from Belarus , made by Belkommunmash company:)
City orderered a few dozen of them, to refurbish its fleet, from both Belarus and Russia, with Russian types soon to arrive.

Oh, poor you! The ones in Rīga are just terrible, and even dangerous!
The drivers say it's the worst piece of shit they've driven, luckily Rīga will never order them again. Now it's Solaris only.

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[Kommandant Mark]

Heard about that burnout in Riga but...
Similar things won't happen in Belgrade, because these trolley's operate with locally-made electronics & equipment.

[Gatis]

Anyway - good luck to Belgrade with your new trolleys ;) This is very vise investment.

Another point - would not agree that it is THAT environmentally friendly - zero emmissions... It uses energy anyway and there is quite significant loss of energy in the long wires. But total pollution per passenger-kilometer should be smaller than from bus. And this pollution is not produced in city center.

[Nick]

Nice pictures but ive never seen the point in Trolley buses.There used to be a route in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney back in the 1960s

[Singidunum]

Belgrade trolleys have skye-leather seats! I don`t know why but they are comfortable!

And they are off corse zero pollution because they are electric buses-no oil-no gases.

[Palal]

Nice pictures but ive never seen the point in Trolley buses.There used to be a route in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney back in the 1960s

They're cheaper in many areas of the world, where electricity is cheaper than gas.
They're quieter
They're smoother
They're better suited for local service (regular buses are better for express service).
They're MUCH cleaner.
Their cost is comparable to that of buses.

We have modified versions of Skoda 14TrSF and 15 TrSF, which are almost done replacing Flyer E800s. We also have some New Flyer artic. trolleybuses.

Skodas are comfortable, but their electronics aren't great. Their electronics aren't standard, and I think that's a part of the problem.

[Trisuno]

Lyon's trolley
http://www.trans-com.net/projets_tc/lyon/images_lyon/etb18.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/trolley_coalition/cristalis.jpg
http://grizzli.beat.free.fr/fer/urbain/crysly.jpg
http://www.lightrail.nl/France/lyon-bus-terreaux.jpg
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bicy-lyon/Lyon/trolley6.jpg

[atlantico]

the new Belgrade trolleys look really nice. Am i mistaken or are they articulated buses. Hopefully Vancouver will do the same as Belgrade and replace its aging fleet of trolley buses with these articulated trolleys to accommodate the growth in the region but at the same time remain environmentally friendly (zero emissions).



Vancouver's network of trolley buses remains the world's largest. Right now as we speak the new buses are being made in Winnipeg. The fleet should be entirely replaced by the beginning of 2006.

[Mongo8780]

Vancouver's network of trolley buses remains the world's largest. Right now as we speak the new buses are being made in Winnipeg. The fleet should be entirely replaced by the beginning of 2006.

Sorry:

Muni’s Current Fleet:
16 Routes

344 Electric Trolley Buses:

* 60 Articulated trolley buses (all from the New Flyer bus manufacturer, acquired in 1994). Articulated trolley buses are 60-feet long and have the "accordion" framing in the middle of the vehicle to allow for maneuverability.

* 284 standard trolley buses (from Flyer and ETI). Standard trolley buses are 40-feet long. All the older Flyer trolley buses will be phased out during mid-to-late 2003.

while...

Translink's fleet of 231 zero-emmission, hydroelectric-powered trolley busses provides clean and quiet service on 150 routes in Greater Vancouver's metropolitan core.

TransLink's trolley fleet is second in size only to San Francisco's in North America, although Seattle runs a large fleet of dual mode diesel/electric buses in addition to conventional trolleys (which we are in the process of replacing with hybrids).

[mbarashkov]

Vancouver's network of trolley buses remains the world's largest.
Kiev, Ukraine has got slightly over 500 trolley buses in the fleet. Peek hour car usage is about 400.

[zivan56]

Hopefully Vancouver will do the same as Belgrade and replace its aging fleet of trolley buses with these articulated trolleys to accommodate the growth in the region but at the same time remain environmentally friendly (zero emissions).


They already are. The buses have been ordered, but testing is still in progress before full production can take place.
Some pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/billlmf/CMBC%20E40LF/2101_right.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/billlmf/CMBC%20E40LF/2101_left.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/billlmf/CMBC%20E40LF/2101_rear_right.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/billlmf/CMBC%20E40LF/2101_rear_left.jpg

More pics (http://billlmf.fotopic.net/c623513.html)

Articulated ones will arrive around 2008 though...

[sequoias]

Articulated? Seattle has had 60' trolley buses for a long time, since 1970's. They're currently converting the old tunnel buses that runs on diesel when it's outside the tunnel and runs on electricity in the tunnel, anyway they are converting it to electricity only, upgraded with new LED desination signs, LED turn signals, rebuilt electric motor and removed the diesel engine.