i was wondering does burj al arab hotel make profit, i mean it such a expensive hotel, with so much costs, does it have full vacany all the time, or is it loosing money

I heard it makes good money and surprisingly is booked more than 70% all year round.

i heard ina its losing alot of money and it wont ever break-even

who cares??? the price fo this one was 1.5 billion $ and with all the money they have to spend´every single day, this hotel will never make profit!

but again: who cares??? this is the landmark of dubai. if you ask somebody who has never been to dubai, what he would know about it, you'll get the answer: burj al arab. everybody knows this hotel and this is why people come to dubai!

is there any turth in the story that they are paided to open it as casion by SA ?

It will take another 300 years of solid bookings before it breaks even

Hi all :) i'm new here but i used to read every single article a few times a day GOOD WORK guys :D

Anyway..., about the profit you might hear alot of stuff and none sence..
first of all Burj al arab has 3 royal suits and each suit is "reserved for ever " and each of them costs 66 thousand per night so have a good think about it ^_~ also i'd like to add that emirates holidays offers special prices for travellers on board Emirates So have another think about that.
+ many confrences are being held in Burj al arab and i guess anyone who wants to hold a confence there can pay the bill ;) + the real cost of Burj al arab hasn't been anounced .. 1.5 billion can't be the cost it is much more than that.

my point is it has a huge profit but the aim from building it wasn't the profit it was built to be a pride to the UAE in general and Dubai in particular.

sorry for the long post :D

so what about all the others expensive hotels, are they also going in loss

the theory behind building the burj al arab was that although it will never breakeven it would be a landmark for dubai, and earn a considerable profit for many years to come. All the other major hotels in the group should all eventualy pay for themselves, like the medinat resort and Emirates towers hotel. it was built to be a symbol for dubai, which it is, even featuring on dubai's number plates until [ironicly] the saudis put a stop to that.

dxb raptor, you're right!!! the hotel has to spend so much money for staff, food,.... everything!! it will never pay off!

btw: one night in the noemal duplex-suite 170sqm costs about 800 $. don't know about the presidential suites, but i don't think it's necessary to stay in these rooms. you have to pay at least 4000 $ per night!!

who actually stays in these expensive rooms

1)H.H. Shiekh Mohammed Bin Rashid al Maktoom
2)Sultan Of Bruni
3)Some Saudi prince might be H.R.H. Al Waleed bin Talal
:)

Guys,

i got a quick question..

its also called "Chicago Beach Hotel" .. thats what i've read in most places.. why ?

Chicago Beach Hotel was the hotel that they demolished to build the Jumerrah Beach Hotel. They exploded the thing which was a lot more expensive than demolishing it normally.

Chicago beach hotel was still there when I first arrived in Dubai but never went as it was much too far away.

..... even featuring on dubai's number plates until [ironicly] the saudis put a stop to that.

Tell us more! I didnt know it was the saudis who put an end to that? What problem did they have with those license plates???????

hmm. I thought they changed the number plates so the automatic readers could read them?

Chicago Beach Hotel was the hotel that they demolished to build the Jumerrah Beach Hotel. They exploded the thing which was a lot more expensive than demolishing it normally.

Chicago beach hotel was still there when I first arrived in Dubai but never went as it was much too far away.

do you have pictures of the chicago beach hotel ?

the theory behind building the burj al arab was that although it will never breakeven it would be a landmark for dubai, and earn a considerable profit for many years to come. All the other major hotels in the group should all eventualy pay for themselves, like the medinat resort and Emirates towers hotel. it was built to be a symbol for dubai, which it is, even featuring on dubai's number plates until [ironicly] the saudis put a stop to that.

I thought they changed the number plates because it was harder to read the small number to the left of the burj al arab sign?

btw did you know that one night at the Hydropolis starts at almost Dhs50,000? The Burj Al Arab is like a normal hotel compared to that! :crazy2:

I thought they changed the number plates because it was harder to read the small number to the left of the burj al arab sign?


yeh i guess that is the main reason, because as i heard sheikh Mohammed once wanted to complain about a car. But because those numbers on the left are really tiny he couldnt know whats the plate number is. beside, i dont like burj al arab sign. its now more organized and really better although i would prefer using ARABIC.

i like it on number plates
as it very iconic !
shame that its not there any more in the plates

but there are some new plates that don't have the burj on it! the new ones with letters a,b,c,d,e,.. in the beginning! if i remember well there's no more pic!

Yeah first they phased out the Burj Al Arab ones to replace them with the enlarged number on the left, then they changed the number to a letter, and now I hear that they'll get machine readable ones

Money really isnt a concern for the shiekhs of Dubai :)

Example , the al maktoum family raised TEN BILLION $$$ to get Russias biggest oil business man out of prison and Debt and are buying a huge chunk out of his company :)

Money really isnt a concern for the shiekhs of Dubai :)

Example , the al maktoum family raised TEN BILLION $$$ to get Russias biggest oil business man out of prison and Debt and are buying a huge chunk out of his company :)

I read Al Maktoum thingo. but some said that it's not ture.

Well it was all over the news in Australia and magazines i read on the plane

Well it was all over the news in Australia and magazines i read on the plane

Yes i know. I think that it was published all over the world. however; a source from Dubai govermnent banish it. Maybe they dont want to keep it secret i dont know

Acually they've changed the Burj al Arab symbol because it was hard to see it. it used to appear like a number 1 from far distances.(so nothing to do with the saudies ) :tongue3:

i heard that a few months after the plates were introduced they were banned from saudi arabia because the imige looked too much like a christian cross, cars had to place blck tape over the immage to cross the border. i dont know any of this for sure, but i just assumed that is why the plates were changed. there is a lot of number plate changing in dubai, and they might intoduce electronicly tagged plates in 2006, so u can be caught speeding with out the need for a camera or a policeman!

i heard that a few months after the plates were introduced they were banned from saudi arabia because the imige looked too much like a christian cross, cars had to place blck tape over the immage to cross the border. i dont know any of this for sure, but i just assumed that is why the plates were changed. there is a lot of number plate changing in dubai, and they might intoduce electronicly tagged plates in 2006, so u can be caught speeding with out the need for a camera or a policeman!

that sounds good. because there are some people who drive like crap!

i heard that a few months after the plates were introduced they were banned from saudi arabia because the imige looked too much like a christian cross, cars had to place blck tape over the immage to cross the border. i dont know any of this for sure, but i just assumed that is why the plates were changed. there is a lot of number plate changing in dubai, and they might intoduce electronicly tagged plates in 2006, so u can be caught speeding with out the need for a camera or a policeman!

Woah...I wouldn't be very surprised if that were true though because I heard that some high up people in the UAE were upset when they saw that the Burj Al Arab looked like a cross from a certain angle

Woah...I wouldn't be very surprised if that were true though because I heard that some high up people in the UAE were upset when they saw that the Burj Al Arab looked like a cross from a certain angle

like me.

The angle at which the Burj Al Arab was drawn on Dubai license plates does not resemble a cross at all. I doubt it was banned in Saudi Arabia or people thought it was a cross on the license plate. It was changed because the number on the left was too small to read.. and I think it's also probably because with all the new Dubai projects coming up, the Burj Al Arab should not be so important to be featured on license plates. I didn't like the idea of having the picture from the start.

As for people complaining that the Burj Al Arab looks like a huge cross if you're coming towards it from the sea, I have heard some people complaining about that or mentioning it, but I think it's a very stupid complaint. The shape of the cross is a very basic geometric shape and it is used in several places, especially in architecture and in buildings. It's as stupid as people complaining about stars of David appearing somewhere in the corner of a Persian carpet..etc. They should first think about where the silly "symbol" of a crescent and star was used for Islam. It has no meaning at all in Islam. People say it's because Islam follows a lunar calendar, so that's why it was chosen, but it's really a pagan symbol and was also used in ancient Constantinople by the Byzantines.

smussuw - What do you mean you prefer "Arabic"? Are you referring to the numbers on the license plates? Those numbers are Arabic. What the Arabs of today are using are Indian numbers.. but some of them still use the original Arabic such as 1 2 3 (as you see on the screen), and many have started using them again. al-Bayan newspaper of Dubai and al-Khaleej of Sharjah use these numerals on their pages instead of the Indian. I always used these numerals as well.

I don't like the Burj Al Arab.. I prefer Jumeirah Beach.. even though I saw several big roaches moving on the floor in Go West steakhouse.....

smussuw - What do you mean you prefer "Arabic"? Are you referring to the numbers on the license plates? Those numbers are Arabic. What the Arabs of today are using are Indian numbers.. but some of them still use the original Arabic such as 1 2 3 (as you see on the screen), and many have started using them again. al-Bayan newspaper of Dubai and al-Khaleej of Sharjah use these numerals on their pages instead of the Indian. I always used these numerals as well.

I don't like the Burj Al Arab.. I prefer Jumeirah Beach.. even though I saw several big roaches moving on the floor in Go West steakhouse.....

I was talking about the script, letter, I know the numbers story. It wouldnt look as neat as its now but again i would prefer arabic. As for the burj Dubai icon, i dont think that Dubai is meant to have a HOTEL as an icon. i would prefer a fort.

the numbers which are today used in the english language, are not the numbers which come from arabic. they are called arabic numbers as they come from the arabic numbrical system of 10 didgits, which is the basis of all present day mathmatics. it was developed by the arabs, and is called the arabic system to differentiate it from the latin system [roman numerals, e.g. XII}, and other counting systems such as counting in 20's or 12's. the presnt day numeral symbols in english are a combination of several diferent counting systems and so are the arabic numbers, a combination of african, indian and the origanal ones. but the world needs a single set of symbols, and using 'european' ones makes sense as most technology is based on them.

anyhow ive deviated so far away from the thread title that i dont know where i am!!!

the numbers which are today used in the english language, are not the numbers which come from arabic. they are called arabic numbers as they come from the arabic numbrical system of 10 didgits, which is the basis of all present day mathmatics. it was developed by the arabs, and is called the arabic system to differentiate it from the latin system [roman numerals, e.g. XII}, and other counting systems such as counting in 20's or 12's. the presnt day numeral symbols in english are a combination of several diferent counting systems and so are the arabic numbers, a combination of african, indian and the origanal ones. but the world needs a single set of symbols, and using 'european' ones makes sense as most technology is based on them.

anyhow ive deviated so far away from the thread title that i dont know where i am!!!

:old: :jk:

hehe, i took theory of numbers as away of getting out of real maths at school :runaway:

Am not sure about the other numbers. but number 0 is supposed to be defined or drawed as a closed path in Arabic as a scrip or what we call circle which we call sefer in arabic or what is called in english as zero.In short what i meant 0 supposed to be an arabic script.

... I prefer Jumeirah Beach.. even though I saw several big roaches moving on the floor in Go West steakhouse.....

LOL

I've seen one crossing the floor at the Lobby Coffee Shop at Hilton Creek.

You can say it’s already made profit before it was opened in deal with cancellation of the casino “cost building of Burj Al Arab was less than $800 millions” Also it is 2nd tallest hotel in the world

1 2 3 are Arabic numbers, it based on numbers of angle in each number… for example 1 has jut one angle, 2 has 2 angles, 3 has 3 angles….etc “You should write straight lines not circular”

It is the tallest operating hotel in the world AMDXL

then whats the point of making another 7 star hotel in Abu dhabhi, that wouldn't probably make profit too.

then whats the point of making another 7 star hotel in Abu dhabhi, that wouldn't probably make profit too.

Well the aim of building AD's 7 star hotel is mainly for the GCC meeting because all the partisipant are royal so they need a place like this one to host the meeting.

The angle at which the Burj Al Arab was drawn on Dubai license plates does not resemble a cross at all. I doubt it was banned in Saudi Arabia or people thought it was a cross on the license plate. It was changed because the number on the left was too small to read.. and I think it's also probably because with all the new Dubai projects coming up, the Burj Al Arab should not be so important to be featured on license plates. I didn't like the idea of having the picture from the start.

The Burj Al Arab symbol was removed because it was hard for police men to read the Code number from a distance so the symbol would appear as a " 1 "
that's the main reason.

BTW : saudis have nothing to do with it...

You can say it’s already made profit before it was opened in deal with cancellation of the casino “cost building of Burj Al Arab was less than $800 millions” Also it is 2nd tallest hotel in the world

1 2 3 are Arabic numbers, it based on numbers of angle in each number… for example 1 has jut one angle, 2 has 2 angles, 3 has 3 angles….etc “You should write straight lines not circular”

lol $800 million :hahano: u must be kidding ur self lol this might be the price of the main kitchen only hehehe

beside the casino wasn't even planned it was a rumer never happened and never will .. and ow yeah it is the world's tallest hotel at the moment.