Liones
January 19th, 2011, 12:00 AM
lets post pictures and news of Ethiopian malls that are open and U/C
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View Full Version : Ethiopian malls and shopping centres Liones January 19th, 2011, 12:00 AM lets post pictures and news of Ethiopian malls that are open and U/C abesha January 19th, 2011, 01:09 AM It's going to be hard to find pics!! Will do my best. Simfan34 January 19th, 2011, 01:16 AM There aren't too many to post lol. Liones January 19th, 2011, 01:23 AM This is the best time to start investing in malls :ohno: I haven't seen any single formal mall in Ethiopia. So far,i have only seen shopping centers Edna mall http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2408/3557187061_96e6b43856.jpg abesha January 19th, 2011, 01:28 AM There aren't too many to post lol. There are dozens of shopping centers now, but it's literally impossible to find pictures. Ethiopians for some reason hate promoting their business :? If I were to open something like that, you'd best believe I'd have dozens of pictures posted on my website. Just off the top of my head, I can immediately think of about 10 that were there even back in 2006. Imagine how many have been added since. abesha January 19th, 2011, 01:48 AM Terrible quality of pics, but what can you do. DH Geda Tower http://aga42.afraa.net/images/content/dh_1.jpg http://aga42.afraa.net/images/content/dh_3.jpg http://aga42.afraa.net/images/content/dh_4.jpg abesha January 19th, 2011, 01:56 AM Getu Commercial Center http://i.pbase.com/o6/93/329493/1/109216977.KU580S3V.EthiopiaJan093628.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/3107198192_cea1e79ca3_z.jpg?zz=1 http://www.get-asinternational.com/getu/images/5.png http://www.get-asinternational.com/getu/images/10.png http://www.get-asinternational.com/getu/images/13.png http://www.get-asinternational.com/getu/images/1.png Liones January 19th, 2011, 01:57 AM :banana: u are so awesome ^^^ Are there any large malls U/C? abesha January 19th, 2011, 02:17 AM ^^ There's Loli Bldg that is U/c (and has been for years and years; owned by Al Amoudi which explains the endless delays). There are lots planned though. There's the Piazza one, there's Ayat's mall, there's some other real estate developer's planned mall, etc. These are real Western-style malls. If we're talking just shopping centers like the above, there are popping up like mushrooms continuously. abesha January 19th, 2011, 02:24 AM Here's one of the planned malls - Hillview Mall http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1018/scan0023zy1.jpg http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9530/scan0024kj7.jpg http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4198/scan0025lq7.jpg http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2996/scan0027dw4.jpg http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9587/scan0028dz4.jpg Loli Building - the entire structure is already up, but the finishing is not done at all http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1544/slide464d8419a29c302523ls4.jpg I believe this is the mall in Piazza http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2849/slide4656c214e55ea16707my5.jpg http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2884/slide4656c2089330c95224xr4.jpg abesha January 19th, 2011, 02:31 AM Inside Dembel City Center http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2005/06/15/aa5.jpg Ahadu January 19th, 2011, 02:36 AM http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1598/85124822.jpg http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3640/14212192.jpg Liones January 19th, 2011, 03:19 AM U guys are the best,keep them coming:banana: i am loving hillview mall.....it looks so westernize Ahadu January 19th, 2011, 03:57 AM F.Y.I Supermarket.......... Branches.......... Ownership Novis Supermarket - 3 Branches - Foreign (Italian) Bambis Supermarket 1 - Foreign (Greek) Felix supermarket 2 Branches - Foreign (Israel) Showa Supermarket plc 2 Branches - Ethiopian Fantu supermarket 4 Branches - Ethiopian Shi Solomon Supermarket 4 Branches - Ethiopian Hadiya Trading Enterprise 1 - Ethiopian Seven Eleven Supermarket 1 - Ethiopian....why 7/11? :ohno: Leonardo Supermarket 1 - Ethiopian Negash Supermarket 1 Branches - Ethiopian Abrico Supermarket 2 Branches - Ethiopian Addis Supermarket 1 - Ethiopian Abadir supermarket 2 Branches - Ethiopian Shoppers’ Mart 3 Branches - Ethiopian Friendship supermarket 1 - Ethiopian Ahadu January 19th, 2011, 04:04 AM Friendship Mall Uz4VhW5pJCU wupeviasco January 19th, 2011, 04:05 AM LOL, I used to go to Dembell and Getu hintsa almost every day! abesha January 19th, 2011, 04:14 AM F.Y.I Supermarket.......... Branches.......... Ownership Novis Supermarket - 3 Branches - Foreign (Italian) Bambis Supermarket 1 - Foreign (Greek) Felix supermarket 2 Branches - Foreign (Israel) Showa Supermarket plc 2 Branches - Ethiopian Fantu supermarket 4 Branches - Ethiopian Shi Solomon Supermarket 4 Branches - Ethiopian Hadiya Trading Enterprise 1 - Ethiopian Seven Eleven Supermarket 1 - Ethiopian....why 7/11? :ohno: Leonardo Supermarket 1 - Ethiopian Negash Supermarket 1 Branches - Ethiopian Abrico Supermarket 2 Branches - Ethiopian Addis Supermarket 1 - Ethiopian Abadir supermarket 2 Branches - Ethiopian Shoppers’ Mart 3 Branches - Ethiopian Friendship supermarket 1 - Ethiopian + Loyal Shopping Center 1 - Ethiopian These are the major ones AFAIK, even though there are tons of small ones. Simfan34 January 19th, 2011, 04:23 AM Here's one of the planned malls - Hillview Mall Loli Building - the entire structure is already up, but the finishing is not done at all I believe this is the mall in Piazza The first and the last of the two have been proposed for years, since I started lurking on SSC years ago. abesha January 19th, 2011, 04:26 AM The first is a long-term plan of the real estate company. They'll build the houses first (which they're doing already btw), then the mall will follow. The 3rd is an Al Amoudi project so I don't expect it to finish any time this decade. Every few months we get news coming out saying construction will start in a month, and that's been happening for years. Look at Nani bldg. It has been completed for years, and it's still closed. I don't understand :?:?:? Btw, you shouldn't quote all the pics. It's pointless and slows down the loading for some of us. Simfan34 January 19th, 2011, 04:38 AM The first is a long-term plan of the real estate company. They'll build the houses first (which they're doing already btw), then the mall will follow. The 3rd is an Al Amoudi project so I don't expect it to finish any time this decade. Every few months we get news coming out saying construction will start in a month, and that's been happening for years. Look at Nani bldg. It has been completed for years, and it's still closed. I don't understand :?:?:? Btw, you shouldn't quote all the pics. It's pointless and slows down the loading for some of us. Oh, okay (hillview). Where is it again? I only learned that the Nani Building wasn't open when Fortune published that article about it opening. Very odd, same with the original City Center proposal. Sorry about the pics, will fix that. As for malls, there are few "real" malls in Addis, only Dembel strikes me as meeting my perception of one. On another note, one thing I hate are those multiple floors of stores with outdoor balconies. They look so ugly and are so common (perhaps less so in newer buildings). Edna Mall is an example, as are these two on Bole Ave. (? I forget): http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1146/1475517851_482f2accbc_b.jpg F.Y.I Supermarket.......... Branches.......... Ownership Novis Supermarket - 3 Branches - Foreign (Italian) Bambis Supermarket 1 - Foreign (Greek) Felix supermarket 2 Branches - Foreign (Israel) Well these have all been in Ethiopia since Haile Selassie's time, right? And don't the owners live in Ethiopia? Ahadu January 19th, 2011, 04:43 AM The 3rd is an Al Amoudi project so I don't expect it to finish any time this decade. Every few months we get news coming out saying construction will start in a month, and that's been happening for years.......... Think about the price of cement right now - impossible to complete or start any construction projects. So, let him finish his cement factory first, then you will see! abesha January 19th, 2011, 06:54 AM Inside a shop in one of the malls - pic from WSJ http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wW6GwSbaBsA/TTZMdE8ZweI/AAAAAAAAGqA/Hqh8-46Iizk/s1600/ETConsumerClass.png stevensp January 20th, 2011, 12:13 AM ^^ LOL at that photo ^^ some cool pics in this thread though although i dont like shopping malls.. lamrof January 20th, 2011, 05:22 AM Why are malls necessary? Most of Ethiopia has year round pleasant weather. Wouldn't an open shopping district like "Arada" make sense? Who saw the Silicon Valley "Santa Raw". Next to it there is a huge mall called "valley fair" most people prefer the open air, green and hip area of Santana Raw than the closed up mall. That place is busy year round from dawn to midnight everyday. Why not entertain the same Idea in Ethiopia. Unless you are talking about space congestion and have to build up then you might have an argument, but most malls I know are no more than 2 stories high. abesha January 20th, 2011, 05:58 AM ^^ I do agree with you that closed malls are not necessary in the country during the day. However, they do have a place during kiremt for instance. But I completely understand your point. My dream would be to see malls like the ones below - a mixture of closed and open: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AcUdTl7Aq-s/SeZONr4uR1I/AAAAAAAAMuc/Sd7hl9v33WM/s400/11_Ala+Moana_2007GGP.jpg http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/02/06/business/06mall.600.jpg http://www.lreroyal.com/projects_clip_image002.jpg http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8322/pavilions.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/pavilions.jpg/) Liones January 20th, 2011, 06:09 AM Why are malls necessary? Most of Ethiopia has year round pleasant weather. Wouldn't an open shopping district like "Arada" make sense? Who saw the Silicon Valley "Santa Raw". Next to it there is a huge mall called "valley fair" most people prefer the open air, green and hip area of Santana Raw than the closed up mall. That place is busy year round from dawn to midnight everyday. Why not entertain the same Idea in Ethiopia. Unless you are talking about space congestion and have to build up then you might have an argument, but most malls I know are no more than 2 stories high. smh:ohno:, having such retail businesses in Ethiopia will create more jobs and influece our economy in some way through stocks. we need both closed malls and open malls. let's stop thinking anciently and move on the same path with the rest of the world. Liones January 20th, 2011, 06:10 AM Inside a shop in one of the malls - pic from WSJ http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wW6GwSbaBsA/TTZMdE8ZweI/AAAAAAAAGqA/Hqh8-46Iizk/s1600/ETConsumerClass.png :cheers: that lady looks like my mom Xusein January 20th, 2011, 06:22 AM Pretty impressive pics and renderings, what is the rough estimate of shopping centers in Addis Ababa? abesha January 20th, 2011, 06:38 AM Xusien, the pics in post 25 are not in Ethiopia. I don't really know how many shopping centers there are currently. Back when I was there in 2007, there were about 10-12 of varying sizes. I'm sure it's closer to 15-20 now. Xusein January 20th, 2011, 06:43 AM I see. Thanks, again I am impressed...I'd love to see at least ONE in Somalia before I grow old. Consumption helps an economy grow! abesha January 20th, 2011, 06:49 AM Inside some shopping centers - pics are from 2007/8 http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2421/mall2largerzb1.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/mall2largerzb1.jpg/) http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4008/mall3largerrn5.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/mall3largerrn5.jpg/) http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/281/mall4largernv1.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/mall4largernv1.jpg/) http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/9475/mall5largertc0.jpg (http://img547.imageshack.us/i/mall5largertc0.jpg/) http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1386/mall6largerls9.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/mall6largerls9.jpg/) http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3985/malllargervi3.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/malllargervi3.jpg/) abesha January 20th, 2011, 07:03 AM Inside Lex Plaza, some other shopping center http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5967/5604057696c5500b67do.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/5604057696c5500b67do.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us) lamrof January 20th, 2011, 08:51 AM smh:ohno:, having such retail businesses in Ethiopia will create more jobs and influece our economy in some way through stocks. we need both closed malls and open malls. let's stop thinking anciently and move on the same path with the rest of the world. Malls are dying in your modern world champ. The little shopping buildings you show here are all over Asia like flies. They are used like a flee market type of dealings. You don't go there unless you want to make a bargain. Modern... :-) Anyway don't let me spoil your little party here. Have a good time. venezian January 20th, 2011, 06:28 PM Bambi's is going to close soon. edit: found a related article, plus there is construction near by that has apparently damaged a pipe or something going through bambi's property that's not being fixed or something like that... http://www.addisfortune.com/Bambis%20Embezzlement%20Suspects%20Out%20on%20Bail.htm edit2: just in case it was missed there's also Ethio Supermarket on Bole that's open 24hrs and serves hot sandwiches (you can only have tibbs at illusion for so many nights before you need something different) Simfan34 January 20th, 2011, 07:15 PM Bambi's is going to close soon. What? Bambi's is an institution! abesha January 20th, 2011, 07:56 PM ^^ I know!! I'd be really sad to see it go :( That's always where we do our shopping (along with Loyal). musiccity January 26th, 2011, 05:08 PM I kinda like Ethiopian Shopping Centers...I think I'll contribute http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb354/Graeme_Lide/9175188.jpg lamrof January 26th, 2011, 05:15 PM ^^ I know!! I'd be really sad to see it go :( That's always where we do our shopping (along with Loyal). We did our shopping in Merkato, Berenda and Gulit mostly. I am not sad. musiccity January 26th, 2011, 05:17 PM http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb354/Graeme_Lide/15100893.jpg abesha January 26th, 2011, 05:30 PM We did our shopping in Merkato, Berenda and Gulit mostly. I am not sad. So you don't think it's sad to see retail businesses brought to their knees? As a society we can't stay in the stone age forever. We need to develop these sectors. Thanks for the pics Musiccity! Liones January 26th, 2011, 06:45 PM So you don't think it's sad to see retail businesses brought to their knees? As a society we can't stay in the stone age forever. We need to develop these sectors. Thanks for the pics Musiccity! He is the same person that said he found a woman's feet more attractive than a woman's hair...... that explains lot about lamrof. He is one those Ethiopians who prefer open markets with disorganization. Ethiopia needs more wider and flatter malls like here in the US. I really don't like malls that are built like skyscrapers with tiny widths. venezian January 26th, 2011, 08:29 PM He is the same person that said he found a woman's feet more attractive than a woman's hair...... that explains lot about lamrof. He is one those Ethiopians who prefer open markets with disorganization. Ethiopia needs more wider and flatter malls like here in the US. I really don't like malls that are built like skyscrapers with tiny widths. i don't care how they build it as long as it has ample parking space LMAO AM2 January 26th, 2011, 09:51 PM He is the same person that said he found a woman's feet more attractive than a woman's hair...... that explains lot about lamrof. He is one those Ethiopians who prefer open markets with disorganization. Ethiopia needs more wider and flatter malls like here in the US. I really don't like malls that are built like skyscrapers with tiny widths. As far as i'm concerned, US malls are vulgar. Along with obesity, they just show the extreme to which American consumerism has gone. I'd rather see smaller shopping centers spread out in the city (as the Addis masterplan stipulates), than huge worship centers for materialism. To top it off, Ethiopian roads and public transport systems can never accomodate US sized malls. Not to mention the crazy amount of energy that is spent warming up and cooling down US malls throughout the year, although that might not be a big issue in Addis. And a little foot fetish never hurt anyone, why you be hating Liones? :lol: Liones January 27th, 2011, 03:35 AM As far as i'm concerned, US malls are vulgar. Along with obesity, they just show the extreme to which American consumerism has gone. I'd rather see smaller shopping centers spread out in the city (as the Addis masterplan stipulates), than huge worship centers for materialism. To top it off, Ethiopian roads and public transport systems can never accomodate US sized malls. Not to mention the crazy amount of energy that is spent warming up and cooling down US malls throughout the year, although that might not be a big issue in Addis. And a little foot fetish never hurt anyone, why you be hating Liones? :lol: No coments:) lamrof January 27th, 2011, 05:45 PM [QUOTE=Liones;71416965]He is the same person that said he found a woman's feet more attractive than a woman's hair...... that explains lot about lamrof. [QUOTE] Why poor me, I got it wrong there. I am backward He is one those Ethiopians who prefer open markets with disorganization . Not true, I like clean, modern and organized Merkato than malls. Ethiopia needs more wider and flatter malls like here in the US. I really don't like malls that are built like skyscrapers with tiny widths. What we need is Markets organized around shops. But since you don't like malls with tiny widths, I will tell Meles to build one based on what you like. lamrof January 27th, 2011, 05:52 PM So you don't think it's sad to see retail businesses brought to their knees? As a society we can't stay in the stone age forever. We need to develop these sectors. Thanks for the pics Musiccity! I was just showing how modern and sad you were and I live in the stone age and happy. venezian March 9th, 2011, 10:01 PM http://www.addisfortune.com/Bambis%20Pays%2019m%20Br%20in%20First%20Instalment%20to%20Tax%20Auth.htm Bambis Supermarket has paid the Ethiopian Revenues and Customs Authority (ERCA) around 19 million Br in its first instalment of paying back taxes amounting to 53 million Br, after being accused of tax evasion. Bambis Supermarket had paid 35.8pc of what it owes in back taxes as part of a deal it made with the ERCA. The authority requires a payment of at least 25pc as a first instalment, after which the amount can be paid on a monthly basis. “We paid the first instalment to offset what we would have to pay, given the high interest rates,” Bambis Tsimas, 80, the managing director of the supermarket, told Fortune by telephone from South Africa where he undergoing medical treatment. Prompted by a tipoff from informants, the authority started investigating the company, in October 2010. A comprehensive audit on its books between 2005 and 2010 revealed that the company had been duplicating a Goods Receivable Note (GRN) for five consecutive years, resulting in its underpaying taxes in the amount of 2.4 million Br, according to the audit report. Undeclared sales and exaggerated general and administrative costs were also investigated. In December last year, the authority declared that the company owed a total of 91 million Br, of which 28.3 million Br was for VAT and 62.7 million Br for profit tax. Bambis appealed to the general director of the ERCA to reduce the amount and asked for a six-year grace period in which to complete the payment. A tax payer who owes tax above two million Birr and agreed to settle it administratively must pay it within 18 months, according to a directive of the authority. However, the tax payer may request extra time if he cannot pay the amount in the given period due to force majeure or the lack of capacity; this period cannot exceed three years, the directive stipulates. “Given the company’s track record and the amount of money involved, the authority has reduced the penalties and ruled that the company owes only 53 million Br,” Asfawossen Aleneh, general manager of the large taxpayers’ office (LTO) at the ERCA, told Fortune. “The request for an additional year was rejected as it requires an amendment to the directive.” Over the past two years, the ERCA has collected around 400 million Br as a direct result of received tips. It has paid a total of 33 million Br in rewards during that time to informants and people who have aided in the seizure of contraband and illegal items. The largest payment was made to an individual who tipped off the authority about the attempted smuggling of 47kg of gold out of the country, through Djibouti, in August 2010. A new directive on the rewards of informants was issued by the ERCA in January, setting the percentage paid to informants at 20pc of the total recovered by the authority, while previously their compensation depended on the amount the ERCA recovered as a result of the tip. An informant should be paid when the authority collects the amount due, according to the previous directive, which was in effect at the time of the information being shared with the tax authority. The two informants, of whom one was an employee of the supermarket, are in negotiations with the LTO about whether their rewards will be paid in accordance with the new or previous proclamation, sources who were not authorised to comment, disclosed to Fortune. Simfan34 March 9th, 2011, 11:01 PM Is it still closing? venezian March 9th, 2011, 11:33 PM Is it still closing? doesn't say, but i don't think it is since they're paying it back. Unless them closing has nothing to do with this tax issue and everything else to do with the development going on around them. From what i heard when i was there a few months ago is that the construction around them has caused a lot of problems for them. One problem had something to do with them digging and busting something and it was flooding Bambis basement or something like that. evany March 10th, 2011, 12:30 AM great :applause: Newkids April 10th, 2011, 06:19 AM http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb354/Graeme_Lide/15100893.jpg Wow...this looks like somewhere in LA.. musiccity April 10th, 2011, 06:24 AM Welcome to the Ethiopian forum :) samounde April 11th, 2011, 03:30 PM Wow...this looks like somewhere in LA.. Looks like Jamia in Nairobi èđđeůx April 12th, 2011, 01:47 AM He is the same person that said he found a woman's feet more attractive than a woman's hair...... that explains lot about lamrof. He is one those Ethiopians who prefer open markets with disorganization. Ethiopia needs more wider and flatter malls like here in the US. I really don't like malls that are built like skyscrapers with tiny widths. You mean malls like this? http://jimmiethongkul.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/800px-mbk_bangkok_1.jpg I love them. A lot of malls in the US are just ugly duplicates with two floors tops and spreads across a large area. I love the malls with lots of floors, in the middle of the city, underground parking. Arinze April 12th, 2011, 02:00 AM NYC Malls tend to be like that, obviously due to space restraints :) èđđeůx April 12th, 2011, 11:53 PM ^^The ideal urban mall. Skyliner123 April 13th, 2011, 01:50 AM NYC Malls tend to be like that, obviously due to space restraints :) Great point Arinze, I have also noticed that New York City malls tend to be tallish and compact. To a lesser extent, even DC malls tend to be like that. The lower profile malls with huge open air parking spaces are mostly a thing of the west. èđđeůx April 15th, 2011, 04:01 AM Great point Arinze, I have also noticed that New York City malls tend to be tallish and compact. To a lesser extent, even DC malls tend to be like that. The lower profile malls with huge open air parking spaces are mostly a thing of the west. Let's hope that doesn't become the norm elsewhere..I mean I don't expect all malls to be compact, etc. but at least in dense areas malls that are expansive w/ large parking spaces shouldn't be built... |