Rapid
September 1st, 2004, 01:19 AM
What are the highest paying occuaptions?
A list would be nice.
A list would be nice.
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View Full Version : What are the highest paying occupations? Rapid September 1st, 2004, 01:19 AM What are the highest paying occuaptions? A list would be nice. vid September 1st, 2004, 03:28 AM I'm guessing engineers and architects, i'm not sure though. I met an Engineer on our schools career day last year, (he went to my school) and he was pretty rich. He worked on one of Pheonix's tallest (not sure which though). New Jack City September 1st, 2004, 04:40 AM I heard architects get not so good pay unless you make it big of course and until later on in the older years of your life. Style™ September 1st, 2004, 04:41 AM Depending on what type of engineer you are and who you work for, you can make quite a living off of it. My uncle being licensed in all fields of engineering has made quite a fortune. Rapid September 1st, 2004, 05:48 AM I'm guessing engineers and architects, i'm not sure though. I met an Engineer on our schools career day last year, (he went to my school) and he was pretty rich. He worked on one of Pheonix's tallest (not sure which though). Possibly engineers, but defently not architects. I dropped architecture, because I discovered I needed higher income. Architects are underpaid, unless your Pelli. cicarra September 1st, 2004, 05:57 AM Doctor, accountant, lawyer. And of course company president. Rapid September 1st, 2004, 06:40 AM I would say entreprenuer if your really lucky. In real-estate, it would probably be developer. dcb11 September 1st, 2004, 09:43 AM Architects certainly make a comfortable living, but many feel they are underpaid, and, unless you're someone like Cesar Pelli or Norman Foster, architects rarely make a fortune. Big-time lawyers generally make lots of money, as do doctors. Of course, to make billions you'll have to be an entrepreneur of some sort. Gendo September 2nd, 2004, 08:18 AM Of course to be a skyscraper architect, you have to have a lot of engineering knowledge as well. A BA in Architecture is only really enough to design houses and smaller structures like Wal-Marts and grocery stores. It's probably a good idea to major in Engineering (Masters or Doctorates) and Minor in Architecture (Bachelors), if you want to make pretty good money. That also doesn't limit you to one profession. Victhor September 2nd, 2004, 01:37 PM In Spain, a bricklayer who works hard can earn 3.000 €/month (~3,600$) Rapid September 2nd, 2004, 07:46 PM In Spain, a bricklayer who works hard can earn 3.000 €/month (~3,600$) That is about 46,000 USD. About how much an average architect makes! Not a good job for me. Im not that skilled in bricklaying. Man G September 2nd, 2004, 11:39 PM The thing with engineering is that the demand is so cyclic.Sometimes you can make a fortune--while you have a job! Say you went to work for an offshore company in the gulf. You could get paid the equivalent of £200,000 a year. Except you wouldn't get that much because you wouldn't last a year! As an engineer there is a lot of hassle, and you have a lot of money riding on your decisions. Such that, one small error could end your career. That's why a lot of the best people are lecturers. They decided they didn't need the stress. As a general rule though engineering isn't that well paid--as a Naval Architect the best you are likely to get before going into management is about £40,000 per year, and to get that you'd have to be really experienced. It would more commonly be 30-35 grand. Of course, it all depends which branch of engineering you go into. So to answer your question, the best bet is to be a politician. In Britain that's £150,000 when expenses are taken into account then a few company directorships at 50 grand a throw. Or what about being a really good sportsman? Jonesy55 September 2nd, 2004, 11:43 PM Possibly engineers, but defently not architects. I dropped architecture, because I discovered I needed higher income. Architects are underpaid, unless your Pelli. ?? Needed higher income than an architect?? What for?? People have very happy lives getting paid a lot less than an architect. Pick something you want to do would be my advice rather than what pays the most money. Jan September 3rd, 2004, 12:37 AM That really depens on what position you hold in your professional field and how good you are at it. There is no 'golden profession' in which everyone involved wins the jackpot. Englishman September 3rd, 2004, 01:23 AM Look at what the future shortages aare going to be. Many people went into IT expecting to be millionaires, and came out after study to find the market not as bright as they hoped and thousands of people looking for the same job. I say go for what you want to do, and if you are good at it and get good grades you'll get a reasonable salary if you can get into a top firm. That's more important I think, getting into the right compnay than going for the higher paid profession. Check out job websites - particularly graduate websites and see what they off (only problem is half seem to say competetive - and no one knows what that means), Rapid September 3rd, 2004, 01:30 AM ?? Needed higher income than an architect?? What for?? People have very happy lives getting paid a lot less than an architect. Pick something you want to do would be my advice rather than what pays the most money. Yes, architects do live an upper middle class life, but I need a higher income than that. My father came from India with 100% no money, therefore he was jailed, then borrowing money from his relatives, he created a million dollar business. Thats why architecture is obsolete in the income area for me. I need something more to top my father. Unfortunalty I had made a game out of that and I'm trying to impress him. Its unfortunate because he's so smart. dcb11 September 3rd, 2004, 01:37 AM Rapid, you should be proud of your father for the success he has had, but that doesn't mean you should feel forced make as much money as he did. If you do care about money, that's fine. Maybe architecture isn't for you. But, if it really does interest you, you should know that you will live comfortably as an architect. That decision is up to you. You are not bound by the choices of your parents or relatives. Just curious. You said your father was jailed for having no money? What do you mean by that? You can't go to jail just for being broke! OBman September 3rd, 2004, 10:50 AM Yes, architects do live an upper middle class life, but I need a higher income than that. My father came from India with 100% no money, therefore he was jailed, then borrowing money from his relatives, he created a million dollar business. Thats why architecture is obsolete in the income area for me. I need something more to top my father. Unfortunalty I had made a game out of that and I'm trying to impress him. Its unfortunate because he's so smart. Yo Rapid... I'd really like to meet ya dad someday.. yes i think architects on an average earns less than engineers. and from a previous post, some forumer mentioned it'd be better if you major in structual engineer and then minor in architecture. architecture alone is a 5 years course, adn engineerin is 4, not to mention if you wanto do a masters degree as well. Also after that u need to work before being a regiestered architect or engineer, adds up to more than 10 years..... if people want a high paid job, i would think dentistry is pretty good... architecture is very stressful as well... lots of sleepless nights.. i guess i can't complain yet.... me only in second year MCarr September 3rd, 2004, 07:39 PM then borrowing money from his relatives, he created a million dollar business. . What million dollar business was that if I may ask... Lee September 3rd, 2004, 08:09 PM In the US, the average surgeon makes over $350,000...making it amongst the highest paying job in the world. Of course, "luck" plays a huge part for some things. Entrepreneurs and Lawyers all mostly make over $60,000. However, the top 5% of those can make well over $500,000 a year...especially in the US. In places like Germany, you can forget about being an entrepreneur. Taxes are too high for an entrepreneur to invest and get going. The social-democratic system really kills off entrepreneurship, unfortunately. TallBox September 3rd, 2004, 08:38 PM What million dollar business was that if I may ask... Don't be so condescending... there are A LOT of Indians in India who are millionaires (in dollars). The person who owns the most expensive house in the world (Lakshmi Mittal), came from India just as poor. He's now a billionaire, of course. Same thing with those shopkeepers (can't remember their names) who came to the UK from India penniless.... they bought a shop... worked hard.... bought another.... and another.... They eventually sold a franchise of some 72 shops to Tesco, earning a few hundred million in the process. Ellatur September 3rd, 2004, 08:53 PM Don't be so condescending... there are A LOT of Indians in India who are millionaires (in dollars). The person who owns the most expensive house in the world (Lakshmi Mittal), came from India just as poor. He's now a billionaire, of course. Same thing with those shopkeepers (can't remember their names) who came to the UK from India penniless.... they bought a shop... worked hard.... bought another.... and another.... They eventually sold a franchise of some 72 shops to Tesco, earning a few hundred million in the process. there was an article about immigrants in usa who came poor and now they are filthy rich in Times. indian hotel people were mentioned TallBox September 3rd, 2004, 10:14 PM Not only that, I heard that Chinese immigrants earn, on average, 10% more than the average white American, while Indian immigrants earn, on average, 7% more than the average white American. Let me find the source.. Jonesy55 September 4th, 2004, 12:33 AM In the US, the average surgeon makes over $350,000...making it amongst the highest paying job in the world. Of course, "luck" plays a huge part for some things. Entrepreneurs and Lawyers all mostly make over $60,000. However, the top 5% of those can make well over $500,000 a year...especially in the US. In places like Germany, you can forget about being an entrepreneur. Taxes are too high for an entrepreneur to invest and get going. The social-democratic system really kills off entrepreneurship, unfortunately. This is so true, there are no businesses in Germany, most people are subsistence farmers ekeing a living from the soil. MCarr September 4th, 2004, 01:24 AM Not only that, I heard that Chinese immigrants earn, on average, 10% more than the average white American, while Indian immigrants earn, on average, 7% more than the average white American. Let me find the source.. and the point is not just earnning more, its also to SAVE more! MCarr September 4th, 2004, 01:35 AM Taxes are too high for an entrepreneur to invest and get going. The social-democratic system really kills off entrepreneurship, unfortunately. The point is not ONE single person to get rich fast, rather to make a community wealthier, the power cant be hold by one single source but rather to be shared. gothicform September 5th, 2004, 04:35 AM ive never met a poor architect in my life. one client, his company employs a grand total of four other people, he only does work on small bespoke houses and i believe last year he made £85,000. architecture is pretty much equal to law and medicine when it comes to making money. of course the best way to become rich is to be the president of a third world country. Lee September 5th, 2004, 10:59 PM This is so true, there are no businesses in Germany, most people are subsistence farmers ekeing a living from the soil. Never said there weren't any businesses. I simply noted that with high taxes, it's no picnic trying to start a business. And if they do start, then it's hard to expand unless you make large enough profits. With low taxes, you can use the extra money to invest and expand more. This is why the high tax policy in W. Europe have shrunken the number of entreprenuers, hence millionaires. skyperu34 September 6th, 2004, 12:21 AM Depending on what type of engineer you are and who you work for, you can make quite a living off of it. My uncle being licensed in all fields of engineering has made quite a fortune. thats the point, i agree!!! mhays September 6th, 2004, 12:43 AM I've known lots of low/mid earning architects. Aged 28, huge college bills, and a salary of $35,000 a year, all for being a glorified draftsman. Like any profession, if its seen as "fun" or "desirable", there will always been plenty of new grads, so in the rank and file there's little market incentive for higher wages. Construction management is a different story. You can earn $50,000 straight out of college as a Project Engineer. In 7-15 years maybe you're a Project Manager, earning $90,000. In your 40s you're a Senior Project Manager earning $120,000. Same story on the "field" side, if you're union. As a Journeyman you're earning $50,000 in good years (or a lot more if there's overtime). Make foreman and it's another dollar an hour. Make Superintendent and you become "salaried" and make about $90,000. Working for a contractor won't make you rich. But you generally make a very solid paycheck. Rapid September 22nd, 2004, 11:53 PM Luck will give you alot of money, but not as much respect as a hard worker. capslock September 23rd, 2004, 03:27 PM ive never met a poor architect in my life. one client, his company employs a grand total of four other people, he only does work on small bespoke houses and i believe last year he made £85,000. architecture is pretty much equal to law and medicine when it comes to making money. of course the best way to become rich is to be the president of a third world country. Ha ha haaa.... oh I wish that were true: Sorry Goth but you're talking out of your proverbial mate. Check out this site for month by month surveys on architects and building professionals incomes at different levels of experience in both the UK and US. http://www.architects-online.co.uk/salary_survey.htm Equal to law and medicine my ass! A top lawyer (a Q.C. for example) can expect to have a seven figure salary. The number of architects in the UK that can claim this can be counted on the fingers of one, well, finger - and that is old Norman boy. The average salary for a partner in an architects practice in the UK is £65,000. Not too shabby but not even in the same league as law or medicine. In my experience the salary of an architect at the point of full professional qualification is below that of tube and bus drivers in London. Don't get me wrong, it ain't a disaster by any stretch and I love being an architect but it's a vocation, not a job, and if you go into it for the money you're going to be sorely disappointed. TRZ September 23rd, 2004, 03:58 PM Ha ha haaa.... oh I wish that were true: Equal to law and medicine my ass! In my experience the salary of an architect at full professional qualification is below that of tube and bus drivers in London. :cry: Good thing I like the field, have no regrets. Not like I'm planning to have it be the end all be all, I'm just getting started *is really young yet, just too poor to go back to class toute suite* capslock September 23rd, 2004, 04:16 PM :cry: Good thing I like the field, have no regrets. Not like I'm planning to have it be the end all be all, I'm just getting started *is really young yet, just too poor to go back to class toute suite* I've amended by post slightly by the way. I meant that at the time I got my Part 3, I was earning about £25k... a tube driver gets (I believe) about £30k. Without being too indiscreet, I've passed that now. You've got to do architecture cos you love it - no other reason. I'm not bitching because I really do love it - it's a great profession. Chad September 23rd, 2004, 04:39 PM General Motor's CEO?.....I'm not totally sure. cas1976 September 23rd, 2004, 05:32 PM the Chief Executive of the Hong Kong Monetary Authority~!!!!! more than HK$8'500'000 each year !!!!! OBman September 26th, 2004, 04:50 PM the Chief Executive of the Hong Kong Monetary Authority~!!!!! more than HK$8'500'000 each year !!!!! Is he the guy who has glasses and has grey hair 8-2 seperated? Lee September 26th, 2004, 05:49 PM the Chief Executive of the Hong Kong Monetary Authority~!!!!! more than HK$8'500'000 each year !!!!! TV host Oprah Winfrey makes over $60 million a year!!!! Rapid September 27th, 2004, 12:31 AM I think Oprah would go under the TV star catagory, even though she operates many branches. hkmember September 27th, 2004, 02:54 PM A specialist who operates a private clinic in Hong Kong may earn HKD 200,000, roughly 25,641 USD per month. Of course certain specialists like those from ENT, dermatologists, orthopedics may earn more. A consultant working in a hospital may also earn this amount. Fresh grads are on the gloomier side, the income for MO (those who just completed one year internship) earns around 30,000-40,000 HKD or roughly 4,487 USD per month. Ubo September 28th, 2004, 02:34 AM Dunno about the highest paying job but dentists sure make a lot in Britain. Rapid September 28th, 2004, 02:54 AM Dunno about the highest paying job but dentists sure make a lot in Britain. I bet they do.. :runaway: Pieminator September 30th, 2004, 09:29 PM They average about £70,000 , which is pritty good for being an ivory carpenter. Or you could do a 2 year electrical instalation course at your local further education college and ear £50,000 a year if you work hard. Rigadon September 30th, 2004, 09:53 PM A top lawyer (a Q.C. for example) can expect to have a seven figure salary. . "expect" is abit stong - the number of lawyers who eared more than 1 million in the UK last year was 76 Kevinkhoo1986 October 2nd, 2004, 12:29 PM Hmm.... I think architecture course did not have any future prospect. Imagine one day if we are running out of space on earth, where will we build our building then? By the way, how much does an architect earn if he design a 1 million dollar building? 1o thousands? just curious... MCarr October 2nd, 2004, 01:36 PM Hmm.... I think architecture course did not have any future prospect. Imagine one day if we are running out of space on earth, where will we build our building then? By the way, how much does an architect earn if he design a 1 million dollar building? 1o thousands? just curious... Theres always work on rehabilitation of old buildings, nothing lasts forever you know... in fact in old cities like in europe theres already lots of work on rehabilitation of old buildings. If it were in Portugal the percentage would be from 7% to 10% of the project value. For state investments we have a price table which is fixed but if its private investments everything is negotiable. Kevinkhoo1986 October 2nd, 2004, 04:34 PM Theres always work on rehabilitation of old buildings, nothing lasts forever you know... in fact in old cities like in europe theres already lots of work on rehabilitation of old buildings. If it were in Portugal the percentage would be from 7% to 10% of the project value. For state investments we have a price table which is fixed but if its private investments everything is negotiable. I thought they only need engineer on rehabilatation projects. Why do they need an architect for rehabilatation purposes? MCarr October 2nd, 2004, 06:42 PM I thought they only need engineer on rehabilatation projects. Why do they need an architect for rehabilatation purposes? Because when a rehabilitation is done its never on the structure only, theres always architecture work like removing/creating walls/doors/windows, painting walls, exchange materials and so on, some times the rehabilitation of the structure is so light or inexistent that the engineering project is not required at all. Lets keep in mind that engineers work on an architects project, not the other way around. the client talks to the architect and then the architect talks to the engineer, the client doesnt need to talk to the engineer, even when we are talking about skyscrapers and heavy structures the client may need to talk to the engineer but the presence of the architect is always required at all times. Mike_ October 10th, 2004, 08:53 AM Architecture is a comfortable profession. My cousin is a draftsman and in his early years he was making $50,000 AU (around $35,000 US) per annum and on the side he was doing contract work and made about $40,000 AU ($28,000+/- US) from that. Now he is on $120,000 AU p/a (almost $90,000 US) so money is never a problem for him. And most importantly he enjoys his work. Cliff May 19th, 2005, 07:38 AM Architecture is a comfortable profession. My cousin is a draftsman and in his early years he was making $50,000 AU (around $35,000 US) per annum and on the side he was doing contract work and made about $40,000 AU ($28,000+/- US) from that. Now he is on $120,000 AU p/a (almost $90,000 US) so money is never a problem for him. And most importantly he enjoys his work. anybody out there, please justify and say that ^^^ is true!!! capslock May 19th, 2005, 08:02 PM "expect" is abit stong - the number of lawyers who eared more than 1 million in the UK last year was 76 That's still about 76 times the number of UK architects then. No, I was having a bad day when I posted on this thread before... (I just re-read it.... bit cynical there :D ) but the link I posted is still a good guide. One good thing is that you can augment your salaried income with a bit of private work. This is fairly normal and if done outside work hours, no-one seems to mind. You can actually get a pretty good annual income with a few of these per year. The danger of that though is that, in the UK at least, you HAVE to have Professional Indemnity insurance for every job you carry out for something like 12 years after the job is completed. It's not horrendously expensive but if you just do one private job, the money you make can go over the years because you have to keep the insurance going. capslock May 19th, 2005, 08:04 PM anybody out there, please justify and say that ^^^ is true!!! no idea if that particular example is true but what is true is that you're salary depends on what you want to work on. You can actually make more money doing drafting for a volume house builder than working in a signature company. Basic supply and demand see, all the graduates want to do the latter, so salaries are better in the former. Q-TIP May 19th, 2005, 08:32 PM What are the highest paying occuaptions? Anyone who is Asian working anywhere! Sorry, but it's a fact. The Asians tend to migrate to any country with no money and make a fortune because of their work ethic is usually much higher than their 'fellow Anglo workers' maxxam80 May 19th, 2005, 08:41 PM in the city of london consultants and accountants can easily make £80000 a year, the average wage in the city is about £30000 eddyk May 19th, 2005, 09:13 PM Plumbers in London can make upwards of £70,000 are year ($130,000+)....out of the big cities its around £30,000! Its because they are so rare, and they can charge what they want! Of course not the highest paid job....but it is very impressive for a plumber! cncity May 19th, 2005, 10:19 PM HIghest paid occupation is doctor followed by, lawyers and accountants. Avg doctor gets paid around $150,000 going upto $500,000 for surgeons.. Dentists get paid around $120,000-$150,000. Lawyers depending on practice get upto $150,000 same with accountants and investment managers. Factory Managers get around $85,000... pharmacists get between $35,000 to $90,000 depending on experience skilled ppl like plumbers etc get an avg of $70,000. and yea 40% of motels in US are owned by Indians and 30% doctors in US are indians too..no doubt they r filthy rich... and an avg Indian professional in US earns about 3% more than a chinese professionals Ellatur May 20th, 2005, 01:53 AM i heard the president and ceo of microsoft (with stock options) get paid very nicely ;) Cliff May 20th, 2005, 04:14 AM no idea if that particular example is true but what is true is that you're salary depends on what you want to work on. You can actually make more money doing drafting for a volume house builder than working in a signature company. Basic supply and demand see, all the graduates want to do the latter, so salaries are better in the former. I see, well then, we'll just have to see how it goes, thanks.:) Urban Dave May 20th, 2005, 02:49 PM Possibly engineers, but defently not architects. I dropped architecture, because I discovered I needed higher income. Architects are underpaid, unless your Pelli. Not in Spain. Arquitects aren't the richest people in the country, but they are wll payed. You can earn 21.000€ for a 300m² house and a normal architect can made 3 o 4 a year (among other projects) For a 18 units house block, it can income 70.000 €. It's easier be a freelance architect than a freelance enginier, despite that everyday they are more needed, so things may change in the future. That's more or less the situation in Spain. Bra Inspector May 20th, 2005, 06:35 PM Well it definitely isn't us programmers... There was an ad in the local paper where someone was looking for a .net programmer with 2 years of experience and a Bachelors in computer science, and the starting pay offered was $8/hr. I haven't even gotten my degree yet and already regret getting into this field. They're outsourcing all our jobs to the 3rd world, now there are way too many programmers and not enough jobs for all of them. I should have been a doctor, there's a shortage of doctors and their job can never be outsourced. The fact is, people don't become rich through hard work or skills, but through luck. Look at rappers, movie stars, some sports stars, etc. Meanwhile there are millions of people with university degrees and high iq's who can barely afford a crappy apartment in the bad side of town and an old beat up car. Cliff May 21st, 2005, 03:49 AM The fact is, people don't become rich through hard work or skills, but through luck. Look at rappers, movie stars, some sports stars, etc. Meanwhile there are millions of people with university degrees and high iq's who can barely afford a crappy apartment in the bad side of town and an old beat up car. Partly true, the richest people don't even study, they are entrepreneurs. But still, you need to have a certian talent, not pure "luck". Most importantly, know how to use it to the fullest potential, don't wait for it to come, make it happen yourself!:) Studying medical does not gurantee anything as well, unless of course, you work in gov. hospitals, where the salary is quite fixed. Æsahættr May 21st, 2005, 05:11 AM My mom is an IT worker and she only gets $75,000 ... is that below average? Metroland May 21st, 2005, 05:17 AM Drug cartel? centralized pandemonium May 21st, 2005, 05:43 AM Become the president of USA :D. I am in first year electrical engineering(actually my exams just got over, and I passed everything, so technically I am in 2nd year, tho I wouldn't be attending classes tilll september). I remember that during one of the career info sessions, we were told that students after second year can go into PEY(Proffestional Experience Year) and can make upto C$40,000-45,000 in 12-16 months. That's for Electrical Engineering. Do you guys think its a good pay or not. STR May 21st, 2005, 07:05 AM ^W. only gets $400,000 a year plus an expense account. Bra Inspector May 21st, 2005, 06:03 PM My mom is an IT worker and she only gets $75,000 ... is that below average? Depends, IT is a very broad term which can mean any number of things. IT could include anything from a technical support person (very low wages) to something like a web architect ($100,000+ easily). Jonesy55 May 21st, 2005, 06:59 PM ^W. only gets $400,000 a year plus an expense account. Poor thing, how does he get by? Does he get tax credits to top up his income? Unless you're totally obsessed with money you'd be better off choosing a profession you enjoy and one that gives you enough free time to do the things you want to do in life. More money is always nice of course but after a while it ceases to mean as much and other non-monetary things are more important. If you earn $5,000 per year, an extra $5,000 means a hell of a lot. If you earn $30,000 then $5,000 extra is nice and might get you a few more luxuries. If you earn $100,000 then $5,000 extra probably makes little difference to your quality of life and if you earn $500,000 you probably won't even notice it. I only earn about 75% of the UK average salary, my girlfriend the same but we still have a very good life, have a nice house, go on holiday three-five times per year, eat nice food, drink nice wine, go out and see friends when we want to etc. It's neccesary to have enough money but having tons and tons of money is overated. capslock May 23rd, 2005, 02:07 PM Poor thing, how does he get by? Does he get tax credits to top up his income? Unless you're totally obsessed with money you'd be better off choosing a profession you enjoy and one that gives you enough free time to do the things you want to do in life. More money is always nice of course but after a while it ceases to mean as much and other non-monetary things are more important. If you earn $5,000 per year, an extra $5,000 means a hell of a lot. If you earn $30,000 then $5,000 extra is nice and might get you a few more luxuries. If you earn $100,000 then $5,000 extra probably makes little difference to your quality of life and if you earn $500,000 you probably won't even notice it. I only earn about 75% of the UK average salary, my girlfriend the same but we still have a very good life, have a nice house, go on holiday three-five times per year, eat nice food, drink nice wine, go out and see friends when we want to etc. It's neccesary to have enough money but having tons and tons of money is overated. Speak for yourself. That hollowed-out volcano lair I've got my eye on isn't going to come cheap you know. Apart from that, you're right of course. It is difficult not to obsess about money sometimes though, especially if you're trying to buy a place in London like I am right now. The truth is that no matter how altruistic you are as an architect, persuading the bank, or estate agents to act the same just doesn't seem to wash. As an architect, the amount of money you make should of course be secondary to the satisfaction you derive from your job. Apart from anything else, if you're not enjoying your work, you certainly aren't in it for the money are you. How well you do as an architect is, just as it in any career is down to skill as well as luck. Not just design skills but also people and political skills. You have to be good at marketting yourself and your 'product' and have the ability to back up all that talk with action when it comes to the crunch. If you've got that, you won't go far wrong. th0m May 23rd, 2005, 02:26 PM Possibly engineers, but defently not architects. I dropped architecture, because I discovered I needed higher income. Architects are underpaid, unless your Pelli. What do you mean, you 'need' higher income? If you're purely into making money, you'll find yourself doing a job that may give you nice $$, but in say 10 years you wish you'd have pursued a career in architecture instead, because at least you would be enjoying your work. GaNgStA-DeSi-4LiFe May 24th, 2005, 01:19 AM a RAPPER...thas ma job lol eddyk May 24th, 2005, 03:03 AM I was looking for this thread but lost it after I though of this one.... Sports star.... Im mean, Some Footballers in the UK earn £100,000 ($200,000 nearly) a week....I mean, Im lucky if I make that in a year! Rwarky May 24th, 2005, 04:14 AM I've heard that Drug Lords/Czars have some the highest incomes in the world ;) Urban Dave May 24th, 2005, 02:45 PM :rofl: That's true,but it's difficult to spend the money you earn when you are in prision! vincent May 24th, 2005, 08:13 PM Doctor, accountant, lawyer. And of course company president. definitely NOT accountant, unless you are the chief accountant of a major company. vincent May 24th, 2005, 08:46 PM That really depens on what position you hold in your professional field and how good you are at it. There is no 'golden profession' in which everyone involved wins the jackpot. unless you are a medical doctor. Mr Man May 24th, 2005, 09:25 PM Surgeons? Englishman May 25th, 2005, 12:41 AM GPs (the guy if you feel ill you go and see), earn on average £90,000/~$165000. That's quite a good wage in my opinion. I heard med students moan about low starting saleries, but I think they had just spent too long in Private school mixing with the rich. London is one of the few cities in hte world where you can earn a million working for someone else (i.e. banking). Still, it's a minority of people. vincent May 25th, 2005, 01:21 AM Speak for yourself. That hollowed-out volcano lair I've got my eye on isn't going to come cheap you know. Apart from that, you're right of course. It is difficult not to obsess about money sometimes though, especially if you're trying to buy a place in London like I am right now. The truth is that no matter how altruistic you are as an architect, persuading the bank, or estate agents to act the same just doesn't seem to wash. As an architect, the amount of money you make should of course be secondary to the satisfaction you derive from your job. Apart from anything else, if you're not enjoying your work, you certainly aren't in it for the money are you. How well you do as an architect is, just as it in any career is down to skill as well as luck. Not just design skills but also people and political skills. You have to be good at marketting yourself and your 'product' and have the ability to back up all that talk with action when it comes to the crunch. If you've got that, you won't go far wrong. i heard numerous times that architect will be working as draftman for very looooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg time before they actually do any design work. Let's see if you are "satisfied" Mr Man May 25th, 2005, 05:19 AM ^ This is true, you have to start somewhere. Also there is no way architects are the highest paid profession. Architects usually work in a comfortable environment. Most of their time is spent in offices consulting with clients, developing reports and drawings, and working with other architects and engineers. However, they often visit construction sites to review the progress of projects. Architects may occasionally be under stress, working nights and weekends to meet deadlines. In 2002, more than half of all full-time architects worked more than 40 hours a week. Median annual earnings of wage and salary architects were $56,620 in 2002. The middle 50 percent earned between $44,030 and $74,460. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $36,280, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $92,350. Earnings of partners in established architectural firms may fluctuate because of changing business conditions. Some architects may have difficulty establishing their own practices and may go through a period when their expenses are greater than their income, requiring substantial financial resources. Surgeons Many physicians—primarily general and family practitioners, general internists, pediatricians, ob/gyns, and psychiatrists—work in small private offices or clinics, often assisted by a small staff of nurses and other administrative personnel. Increasingly, physicians are practicing in groups or healthcare organizations that provide backup coverage and allow for more time off. These physicians often work as part of a team coordinating care for a population of patients; they are less independent than solo practitioners of the past. Surgeons and anesthesiologists typically work in well-lighted, sterile environments while performing surgery and often stand for long periods. Most work in hospitals or in surgical outpatient centers. Many physicians and surgeons work long, irregular hours. Almost one-third of physicians worked 60 hours or more a week in 2002. Physicians and surgeons must travel frequently between office and hospital to care for their patients. Those who are on call deal with many patients’ concerns over the phone and may make emergency visits to hospitals or nursing homes. Anesthesiology $306,964 Surgery, general 255,438 Obstetrics/gynecology 233,061 Psychiatry 163,144 Internal medicine 155,530 Pediatrics/adolescent medicine 152,690 Family practice (without obstetrics) 150,267 expat_marla May 25th, 2005, 08:00 AM for doctors, lawyers, architects, engineers, accountants, etc.... you also have to figure in the cost of professional liability insurance. i saw some quotes on doctors like "Anesthesiology $306,964" factor in the v v high insurance premiums those docs must pay and it can bring that (what i am assuming to be net) income figure way down. if you are an architect, attorney, etc, within a good sized firm then typically the firm is the one that pays the professional indemnity premiums. if you are going solo though and are going into a "profession" then you must factor in the high cost of insurance nasanmitch34 May 25th, 2005, 06:42 PM I would say entreprenuer if your really lucky. In real-estate, it would probably be developer. I would have to say the real-estate business, but not sure? clive330 May 26th, 2005, 06:14 AM Well it definitely isn't us programmers... There was an ad in the local paper where someone was looking for a .net programmer with 2 years of experience and a Bachelors in computer science, and the starting pay offered was $8/hr. I haven't even gotten my degree yet and already regret getting into this field. They're outsourcing all our jobs to the 3rd world, now there are way too many programmers and not enough jobs for all of them. I should have been a doctor, there's a shortage of doctors and their job can never be outsourced. The fact is, people don't become rich through hard work or skills, but through luck. Look at rappers, movie stars, some sports stars, etc. Meanwhile there are millions of people with university degrees and high iq's who can barely afford a crappy apartment in the bad side of town and an old beat up car. There is no way that $8 is the going rate for a .net programmer with a degree and 2 years experience. It should be at least $25-40 per hour. Look at some proper jobsites in cities that USE developers. If you are in a small town - obviously you are going to get nothing. Outsourcing has affected a few very large projects but there will always be endless local work in modifications, upgrades, additions and in making systems work together - none of which is practical to do offshore. IT salaries have declined at the bottom end but have not at the top end. A good developer with web/xml/sql or oracle and .Net skills (and the right experience) will make make 2000-3000+ pounds a week in London - over US$250k. Rigadon May 29th, 2005, 04:37 PM London is one of the few cities in hte world where you can earn a million working for someone else (i.e. banking). . No it isnt- any city with a major football club has employees on over a million a year. Englishman May 29th, 2005, 05:13 PM No it isnt- any city with a major football club has employees on over a million a year. You pedantic git! Well, I reckon only a few cities have football clubs with players earning over a million a year. But If you'd like me to rephrase that statement then I'll say: London is one of only a few cities where you can earn over a million and not be an amazing footballer/golfer/actor/basketball player etc or self employed. Last year 2,604 houses were sold in London for over £1 million (about $1.8 million US). Another 1000 around the surrounding area. I wonder what most of those house owners do for a living. CuraC June 19th, 2005, 04:48 PM what about highway/roads engeneers in your country? is there any job for that kind of civil engeneering in your country ? Skoulikimou June 20th, 2005, 02:59 AM by becoming 3rd world country dictator :gunz: jonjacob June 21st, 2005, 12:15 AM Not sure if it's the highest paying job, but one of the highest paying jobs with only a Bachelors degree is Electrical/Computer Engineering with specialization in Integrated Circuit design (either Digital or Analog). Analog is more specialized and complex, and thus pays more - but there are less jobs in Analog. It also obviously depends on where you work. In San Jose, California (silicon valley) a design engineer with a few years of experience earns in the USD$70K-$80K range. Engineers with around 10 years experience are usually well into the $100K range. sqd June 21st, 2005, 07:34 AM Many of my relatives are pharmacists who make about $100,000 USD/ year and a few dentists who make about $150-200,000 USD so I guess those two profession are two of the highest paid jobs in the U.S Indyman June 21st, 2005, 08:42 PM Possibly engineers, but defently not architects. I dropped architecture, because I discovered I needed higher income. Architects are underpaid, unless your Pelli. True. Pelli I'm sure has a nice bank account. :) Indyman June 21st, 2005, 08:44 PM Many of my relatives are pharmacists who make about $100,000 USD/ year and a few dentists who make about $150-200,000 USD so I guess those two profession are two of the highest paid jobs in the U.S I would bet there are even higher ones. CEO's don't count. lol btw...if you go to www.salarywizard.com (http://www.salarywizard.com) you can get a good idea of what jobs pay. Pavlo June 21st, 2005, 09:30 PM Well according to careerbuilder.com, the highest paying jobs overall are: Physicians and surgeons -- $147,000 Aircraft pilots -- $133,500 Chief executives -- $116,000 Electrical and electronic engineers -- $112,000 Lawyers and judges -- $99,800 Dentists -- $90,000 Pharmacists -- $85,500 Management analysts -- $84,700 Computer and information system managers -- $83,000 Financial analysts, managers and advisors -- $84,000 Marketing and sales managers -- $80,000 Education administrators -- $80,000 http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/CareerBytes/0505highestpay.htm?cbRecursionCnt=1&cbsid=ee772af60b2046cdb2d2350a436de069-172679194-xg-2 The dudes that get 200k+ are in serious business like company owners. I wouldn't really shoot for anything that high, aim for something that's actually possible. jonjacob June 21st, 2005, 10:29 PM Many of my relatives are pharmacists who make about $100,000 USD/ year and a few dentists who make about $150-200,000 USD so I guess those two profession are two of the highest paid jobs in the U.S Pharmacists are definately well paid, but you must have a PhD in the US to be one. So if you like school, that's a good one. Indyman June 22nd, 2005, 12:04 AM The dudes that get 200k+ are in serious business like company owners. I wouldn't really shoot for anything that high, aim for something that's actually possible. Yeah, thats true. And if you are a bid time company guy your job alot of times isn't secure. When your that high up in a company it probably is cutthroat. mic of Orion July 10th, 2005, 05:24 AM What are the highest paying occuaptions? A list would be nice. In UK best paid jobs (starting) are in Finance (City of London) £25-40000PA, Doctors and Medical Interns - £56-72000PA, Lawyers - £27-35000, Media - £25-55000, Architects - £22-35000 and so on... In London average is slightly higher as you know London is very expensive... this are starting pays, for house with say 3 years experience or more you just double the pay.... in US$ = well multiply it by 1.85 = i.e. £20 000 = 37 000US$ centralized pandemonium July 10th, 2005, 06:51 AM What if I get a BASC degree from University of Toronto in Mechanical Engineering, mechatronics option, then go to Harvard Law School, how much I will make? Wait am I allowed to do that? I originally wanted to go into law, but I had to go into engineering for my parents. vytux July 13th, 2005, 01:08 PM garbologist vytux July 13th, 2005, 01:12 PM The dudes that get 200k+ are in serious business like company owners. I wouldn't really shoot for anything that high, aim for something that's actually possible. I think it more important to focus on your job at hand and do that well, than worry about how much your getting paid. In time hard work will pay off (reliate to your industry demand) and you'll be renumerated hansomly. Remember the work comes 1st. Drunkill July 13th, 2005, 02:14 PM Don;t forget, dentists might get quite bit, but that occupation has the highest sucide rate, seeming everyone likes doctors for saving lives, but everyone hates dentists. Barristers get quite a bit, but yes you have to be good, plus go through a 100k uni degree for 5 years. A r c h i July 18th, 2005, 01:52 PM A lot of architects whinge that they get paid nothing in order to frighten off prospective architects from the field. They are all scared that they will be replaced by younger and more talented architects. lol. But seriously if you really want to succeed you will and with success comes a lot of money. If you want to earn a lot of money you have to be the best, and that comes with years of hard work. I think you'll find it's a very fulfilling occupation that will take you across the world. Only downside is you have to wear black and at some stage glasses. He he. Trump_87 July 18th, 2005, 10:35 PM my aunt is a partner a a corporate law firm and makes just under $600,000... not including bonuses... Effer July 18th, 2005, 11:43 PM Microsoft Chairman Wal-Mart Chariman scorpion July 19th, 2005, 02:23 AM Partly true, the richest people don't even study, they are entrepreneurs. But still, you need to have a certian talent, not pure "luck". Most importantly, know how to use it to the fullest potential, don't wait for it to come, make it happen yourself!:) Studying medical does not gurantee anything as well, unless of course, you work in gov. hospitals, where the salary is quite fixed. how about someone who studies medicine, then becomes an entrepreneur??? :D :cheers: :nocrook: :hammer: :dj: :naughty: :colgate: 1st Division Marine July 19th, 2005, 06:22 AM lawyers,presidents,pilots,doctors etc ill finish the rest later. centralized pandemonium July 19th, 2005, 07:03 AM how about someone who studies medicine, then becomes an entrepreneur??? I want to do engineering and then become an entrepreneur :cool:. alonzo-ny July 29th, 2005, 02:02 AM Again why people think architects dont get good pay. My tutor at university designed a resonable sized house, a couple of weeks work, and got paid 15,000 for his trouble. My mother doesnt make that in a year Ted Ward August 9th, 2005, 01:44 PM For what its worth, top graduate salleries in Oz. At $60,000, starting salaries for dentists are the highest in Australia. The latest report from Graduate Careers Australia, which lists median annual starting pay for various fields of study, says graduates in medicine and optometry rank next, at $50,000. The median salary for bachelor degree graduates is $38,000. It has gone up marginally, by $1000, from the previous report. Other areas of study (median annual salary in $'000): Engineering ...................41 Education .....................40 Mathematics .................. 40 Law ...........................39.5 Earth Sciences ................39 Computer Science ..............38 Paramedical Studies ...........38 Social Work ...................37.4 Psychology ....................38 Physical Science ..............37 Biological Sciences ...........36 Veterinary Science ............36 Accounting ....................35 Economics, Business ...........35 Humanities ....................35 Agricultural Science ..........35 Architecture & Building .......34.5 Social Sciences ...............34 Art & Design ..................32 Explaining the low starting salary for architecture, the study says graduates have to undertake specialist training after completing their degrees. Earnings increase later on, according to the report. The Weekend Australian July 30-31, 2005. londonindyboy August 9th, 2005, 04:16 PM its really hard to say all countries dont pay the same if you are doctor in inida you will get very little money however if you a doctor in uk you get £70.000-80.000 empersouf August 9th, 2005, 11:49 PM I want (and I really can) to be a surgeon(just 12 years to study ahead :p), what's the best country for me to live in if you look at how many money you can earn? empersouf August 9th, 2005, 11:55 PM Or as dentist? I doubt between those two. smussuw August 10th, 2005, 12:02 AM In Spain, a bricklayer who works hard can earn 3.000 €/month (~3,600$) In the UAE an engineer with ZERO experience earn 3,500$ a month. I think managers gets the highest paying here. It would go from 10,000$ to more than 100,000$ a month. desiguy8179 August 10th, 2005, 06:48 AM strip dancing is highly paid too! United-States-of-America August 10th, 2005, 08:02 AM Highest paying occupation: To be a human. All other animals get nothing. maxxam80 August 10th, 2005, 07:21 PM you can graduate in economics from just an alright university, then if you join any London investment bank or any graduate job with citibank and Barclays and HSBC or UBS you are guranteed at least £35k grad salery they have structured programs tostream you into a high managerial position within years of your first day of employment I seriously don't recommend stockborking in the city Lee August 10th, 2005, 11:58 PM Average Salary for select American medical proffesions: General Surgery $558,719 Cardiovascular Surgery $591,199 Colon/Rectal Surgery $438,426 Neuro Surgery $208,340 Oral & Maxillofacial $346,224 Orthopedic Surgery $306,047 Plastic Surgery $285,356 Urology $359,339 Vascular Surgery $261,276 360 Modena August 11th, 2005, 01:48 AM ...and how good you are at it. this is what i have always belived in. just think about it, if you're a GP for example, in Australia, you'd get paid like $40 for 10 mins with a customer. on the other hand, you have a shopkeeper who for example earns $100 an hour for the whole buisness. the doctor would get more money of course. but what if his service was poor? if he a messy office etc. he'd probably only get 1 customer and hour for example. where as the shopkeeper might sell the best fruit and vegetables you can get. hence, his income would increase with more customers. so really, if you want to do something, do a good job at it or it won't be worth doing empersouf August 11th, 2005, 03:09 PM How much does a dentist earn in California?? 1st Division Marine August 11th, 2005, 06:49 PM Im studing Political Science at University to go into Goverments/ Politic/Presidental area for me. Aktiv August 11th, 2005, 08:39 PM i heard architects earn 3% of the total cost of the building. i dunno how much an office building costs, but once it reached over $1,000,000 it adds up. Lee August 11th, 2005, 10:16 PM Does anyone know what someone can do with the title "International Relations"? How much can you make? londonindyboy August 12th, 2005, 12:49 AM IS IT PILOT londonindyboy August 12th, 2005, 12:50 AM Microsoft Chairman Wal-Mart Chariman LOL :) MikeHunt August 12th, 2005, 06:47 AM Hedge fund managers. They can make WAAAAY MORE than the $30M annual pay that the CEO of a Fortune 100 company makes. The top manager last year made over $1B in compensation from his fund. fahed August 12th, 2005, 01:53 PM According to Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/04/20/05ceoland.html), Yahoo's CEO has the Biggest Paycheck! Englishman August 13th, 2005, 02:19 PM Does anyone know what someone can do with the title "International Relations"? How much can you make? Work in politics or interenational organisations I imagine. IR is often combined with politics. A friend of mine is off to work in brussels in the EU government after a politics and IR degree. (Some people from SSC met her once) Jonesy55 August 13th, 2005, 02:25 PM Average Salary for select American medical proffesions: General Surgery $558,719 Cardiovascular Surgery $591,199 Colon/Rectal Surgery $438,426 Neuro Surgery $208,340 Oral & Maxillofacial $346,224 Orthopedic Surgery $306,047 Plastic Surgery $285,356 Urology $359,339 Vascular Surgery $261,276 Jesus, no wonder you guys have to pay a fortune for medical insurance!!! 1st Division Marine August 16th, 2005, 11:18 AM Metroland i heard the Colombian Cartels get a big paycheck like three/four big major companies like mcdonalds,microsoft,walmart and apple joined together. Malt August 16th, 2005, 01:04 PM Originally Posted by Lee Average Salary for select American medical proffesions: General Surgery $558,719 Cardiovascular Surgery $591,199 Colon/Rectal Surgery $438,426 Neuro Surgery $208,340 Oral & Maxillofacial $346,224 Orthopedic Surgery $306,047 Plastic Surgery $285,356 Urology $359,339 Vascular Surgery $261,276 Why the hell is Neuro Surgery the lowest? |