-edit at plasma169's request.

there are alot of anti korean activities going on around the world. tell me your TRUE opinion about south korea.

(and lets try to keep this thread clean ok?)

so are YOU anti korea?

I don't think people are anti-Korean, but some Koreans I must admit are a bit too proud of themselves. I am so tired of seeing "Korean Pride" written in school toilets stalls or in some public places. Thats probably causing hatred among some people.

anti-Korean? NEVER heard of that before. All the Koreans i know (to be honest not many, but it doesnt matter bout the number) are nice people. Korea is a nice country: the only thing which is depressing is North Korea; but South Korea is fine :D

I am British

and Koreans are very well respected in the UK

they have great restaurants here in London

I love Korea

Ellatur, please don't post stuff like this....( Or if you can, please delete it as it is really quite embarassing for fellow Koreans/ other forumers from other countries to view this..No offence to you at all. )

That post of yours is made from a "childish teenage Korean girl", not from foreigners. Don't believe everything you saw from the internet. Almost half of the comments on your post are largely inflated rumors that was created almost 2 years ago. I've seen the exact same "text" on the site, called 한류열풍 in the year 2002. >(

I don't think people are anti-Korean, but some Koreans I must admit are a bit too proud of themselves. I am so tired of seeing "Korean Pride" written in school toilets stalls or in some public places. Thats probably causing hatred among some people.
I hate those too

Ellatur, please don't post stuff like this....( Or if you can, please delete it as it is really quite embarassing for fellow Koreans/ other forumers from other countries to view this..No offence to you at all. )

i personally think that other korean forumers should read it and see what is going on. there is nothing embarrasing about. the comments are VERY biased and prejudiced. we all know that most of it is not true. im just trying to make everyone see some examples of anti-korean stuff going on :)

hmm.. what happened here? I will delete this thread if nobody objects.

don't worry. no problem here

I haven't seen much anti Korean stuff.

And honestly, I don't think anyone who's really anti Korean would ever admit it openly. I would mean either he is really stupid, or that he's losing all credibility.

But since some people openly admited they are anti French on this forum, I bet you can try to ask.

I've seen a few anti-Koreans here at ssc, but I doubt if any of them is still active. As far as I know, almost all of them ended up getting banned.

They're probably all Italians still shaken from the 2002 World Cup loss :P Seriously though, I had to stop wearing Be the Red T-shirts to school after that.

There isn't much anti-Korean sentiments because Korea simply isn't as well-known nearly as long as its neighbors.

There isn't much anti-Korean sentiments because Korea simply isn't as well-known nearly as long as its neighbors.


that has nothing to do with it...
how old is the usa?
theres tons of anti-usa sentiments going on

that has nothing to do with it...
how old is the usa?
theres tons of anti-usa sentiments going on

He's not talking about history here. What he meant was that because Korea is surrounded by giants (i.e. Russia, Japan, China, etc.), people sometimes don't even notice the presence of Korea. Well, things are much better now than a couple decades ago at least.

He's not talking about history here. What he meant was that because Korea is surrounded by giants (i.e. Russia, Japan, China, etc.), people sometimes don't even notice the presence of Korea. Well, things are much better now than a couple decades ago at least.


he said "well-known nearly AS LONG" what does "as long" have to do with prominence? as long to me means the length of time

ebck120, ignore pangu. 그님의 '코드'가 우리와 안맞아요 (lol. makes me sound like no moo hyun. that b@3ㅅ@2d.)

LET US ALL VOTE FOR PARK GEUN HYE!

he said "well-known nearly AS LONG" what does "as long" have to do with prominence? as long to me means the length of time

ebck120, ignore pangu.

ebck120: Anyone with half a brain would know that China and Japan are the most two well-known Asian nations to the world for the longest time. You might not feel that Korea isn't well-known because you're Korean and you're just filled with pride :rolleyes: but in the real world, Korea isn't that well known even with your auto and electronic industry. Not many people know that Hyundai and Samsung are from Korea although they may use their products.

So how can Korea be hated when many people don't even know it exists?

Also, Korea's neighbors, namely China and Japan, are hated for historical reasons. The reason for China is obvious. China has been the most powerful nation in the region for centuries until the late Qing dynasty in the 1800's. Japan nearly dominated the whole Asia during World War II and committed extremely cruel and inhumane crimes against its neighbors. Until the Korean War, I can bet you that most of the world's respond to "Do you know where Korea is" would be "WTF?"

So to most of the world, especially the West, Korea has an advantage because it is not well-known so it can have a "fresh start". But of course, Korea's neighbors, namely China and Japan, knows all about Korea's past...

ellatur: What's the matter? Can't handle reality? Yes, go and shout "Korean pride" three times to yourself and you'll feel better.

ebck120: Anyone with half a brain would know that China and Japan are the most two well-known Asian nations to the world for the longest time. You might not feel that Korea isn't well-known because you're Korean and you're just filled with pride :rolleyes: but in the real world, Korea isn't that well known even with your auto and electronic industry. Not many people know that Hyundai and Samsung are from Korea although they may use their products.

So how can Korea be hated when many people don't even know it exists?

Also, Korea's neighbors, namely China and Japan, are hated for historical reasons. The reason for China is obvious. China has been the most powerful nation in the region for centuries until the late Qing dynasty in the 1800's. Japan nearly dominated the whole Asia during World War II and committed extremely cruel and inhumane crimes against its neighbors. Until the Korean War, I can bet you that most of the world's respond to "Do you know where Korea is" would be "WTF?"

So to most of the world, especially the West, Korea has an advantage because it is not well-known so it can have a "fresh start". But of course, Korea's neighbors, namely China and Japan, knows all about Korea's past...

ellatur: What's the matter? Can't handle reality? Yes, go and shout "Korean pride" three times to yourself and you'll feel better.


you've gotto be kidding me? pride?
i am proud to be korean/american but i am the last one to be a prideful nationalistic.....

in your provious post you said that the reason was that korea wasnt known long enough to be "anti'd" against, so i was just stating the fact that the length a country has been known has nothing to do with; whether it be korea or any other nation, you seem have run across some "overbearringly prideful people", dont let those few take your cynical remarks out onto others

Though I'm not Korean, I definitely know that Samsung and Hyundai are one of the major Korean Brands. lol. Even though Finland is not a major country in Europe, everyone knows that Nokia is Finnish. Commoners know that Samsung and Hyundai is the 'symbol' fo Korea. We're not that dumb. :)

ebck120: Anyone with half a brain would know that China and Japan are the most two well-known Asian nations to the world for the longest time. You might not feel that Korea isn't well-known because you're Korean and you're just filled with pride :rolleyes: but in the real world, Korea isn't that well known even with your auto and electronic industry. Not many people know that Hyundai and Samsung are from Korea although they may use their products.

So how can Korea be hated when many people don't even know it exists?

Also, Korea's neighbors, namely China and Japan, are hated for historical reasons. The reason for China is obvious. China has been the most powerful nation in the region for centuries until the late Qing dynasty in the 1800's. Japan nearly dominated the whole Asia during World War II and committed extremely cruel and inhumane crimes against its neighbors. Until the Korean War, I can bet you that most of the world's respond to "Do you know where Korea is" would be "WTF?"

So to most of the world, especially the West, Korea has an advantage because it is not well-known so it can have a "fresh start". But of course, Korea's neighbors, namely China and Japan, knows all about Korea's past...

ellatur: What's the matter? Can't handle reality? Yes, go and shout "Korean pride" three times to yourself and you'll feel better.

no i just do not want you to mess up threads like you did last time

And of course, China and Japan are well known than Korea in the outside world. But to tell the truth, I know famous brands like 'Sony'(One of my favorites!) or 'Sanyo' along with Korean brands like 'Samsung electronics" or 'LG' but seriously never heard of any Chinese brands especially at the eletronics part. But since China is growing at top speed, mayhaps one day they'll get their own brand.

of course, china has alot of very cool looking tall buildings

no i just do not want you to mess up threads like you did last time
Mess up what thread? I don't know why you seem to have some kind of personal vedetta against me. Talk about being petty.

ebck120: Anyone with half a brain would know that China and Japan are the most two well-known Asian nations to the world for the longest time. You might not feel that Korea isn't well-known because you're Korean and you're just filled with pride :rolleyes: but in the real world, Korea isn't that well known even with your auto and electronic industry. Not many people know that Hyundai and Samsung are from Korea although they may use their products.

So how can Korea be hated when many people don't even know it exists?

Also, Korea's neighbors, namely China and Japan, are hated for historical reasons. The reason for China is obvious. China has been the most powerful nation in the region for centuries until the late Qing dynasty in the 1800's. Japan nearly dominated the whole Asia during World War II and committed extremely cruel and inhumane crimes against its neighbors. Until the Korean War, I can bet you that most of the world's respond to "Do you know where Korea is" would be "WTF?"

So to most of the world, especially the West, Korea has an advantage because it is not well-known so it can have a "fresh start". But of course, Korea's neighbors, namely China and Japan, knows all about Korea's past...

ellatur: What's the matter? Can't handle reality? Yes, go and shout "Korean pride" three times to yourself and you'll feel better.

you've gotto be kidding me? pride?
i am proud to be korean/american but i am the last one to be a prideful nationalistic.....

in your provious post you said that the reason was that korea wasnt known long enough to be "anti'd" against, so i was just stating the fact that the length a country has been known has nothing to do with; whether it be korea or any other nation, you seem have run across some "overbearringly prideful people", dont let those few take your cynical remarks out onto others

There isn't much anti-Korean sentiments because Korea simply isn't as well-known nearly as long as its neighbors.

Talking about "Pot calling kettle black"...:D:D

Ask anyone in the world, what "Taiwan is" or where it's located. 99% of the people won't be able to respond because they have never heard of this country in their life. Taiwan is politically, culturally and economically non-existent to the world. IT'S A FACT. You see, the sad thing is, Taiwan is not even recognized as a country to most people. ( Although I hope they become an independent country..)

I agree that China and Japan are better known than Korea to the world. China for being the most populous nation in the world along with India, and Japan for being the second largest economy in the world, they have all the reason to promote their names to the world.

But Korea is not far behind. They are the third largest economy in Asia. Not only do they have Samsung or Hyundai in their list, Korea is ranked 6th in the world in terms of having global companies in Forbes International 500. ( http://www.forbes.com/2003/07/02/internationaland.html ).

They have as much influence in Asia, as France have in Europe with their economical dominance and political influence. Ever heard of ASEAN + 3 ( 3 being Korea, Japan and China )? Or what about APEC? Or what about other organisations such as FIFA, IOC, UN and WHO? FIFA vice president is from Korea. Former IOC vice president was from Korea. The secretary general of WHO is Korean...the list goes on..

Heck, even Taekwondo is practiced by 50 million people world-wide. ( http://www.athens2004.com/en/Taekwondo ) That's 1/12th of the world population for ya. Or what else? There are 5 million Koreans living abroad. Btw, have you seen "an unknown country" host both the World Cup and Olympic games before? :D..Damn, there are so many things to talk about Korea while there are so less things to talk about your tiny little country, Taiwan.


Yes, Korea was unknown before the 1950's era. But now, the world has changed and so has Korea.

I see some Taiwanese making stupid comments about Korea out of pure jealousy. Before you make such comments, I would suggest you stop watching Korean dramas, stop playing Korean games, stop copying Korean high-technologies without paying any royalty and stop idolizing Korean actors/actresses. Then we will listen to you.

Hahahaha, this "Korean pride" cracks me up. Go ahead, talk all the smack you want. Afterwards, why don't you Koreans get together and chant "Korean Pride" around a camp fire. Hahaha.

Here is another reason why there aren't many anti-Korean sentiments.

When Korea, namely South Korea, showed up on the International scene (around 1960's or 70's), South Korea was a U.S. "ally" (lapdog). Therefore, as a reward for being a U.S. "ally", South Korea was backed by the world's most powerful and influencial nation.

Just look at pre-WW2 Japan and post-WW2 Japan. Heck, Disney made cartoons making fun of "Japs". Look at how Japan is preceived in the U.S. now that it's an U.S. "ally".

Talking about "Pot calling kettle black"...:D:D

Ask anyone in the world, what "Taiwan is" or where it's located. 99% of the people won't be able to respond because they have never heard of this country in their life. Taiwan is politically, culturally and economically non-existent to the world. IT'S A FACT. You see, the sad thing is, Taiwan is not even recognized as a country to most people. ( Although I hope they become an independent country..)

I agree that China and Japan are better known than Korea to the world. China for being the most populous nation in the world along with India, and Japan for being the second largest economy in the world, they have all the reason to promote their names to the world.

But Korea is not far behind. They are the third largest economy in Asia. Not only do they have Samsung or Hyundai in their list, Korea is ranked 6th in the world in terms of having global companies in Forbes International 500. ( http://www.forbes.com/2003/07/02/internationaland.html ).

They have as much influence in Asia, as France have in Europe with their economical dominance and political influence. Ever heard of ASEAN + 3 ( 3 being Korea, Japan and China )? Or what about APEC? Or what about other organisations such as FIFA, IOC, UN and WHO? FIFA vice president is from Korea. Former IOC vice president was from Korea. The secretary general of WHO is Korean...the list goes on..

Heck, even Taekwondo is practiced by 50 million people world-wide. ( http://www.athens2004.com/en/Taekwondo ) That's 1/12th of the world population for ya. Or what else? There are 5 million Koreans living abroad. Btw, have you seen "an unknown country" host both the World Cup and Olympic games before? :D..Damn, there are so many things to talk about Korea while there are so less things to talk about your tiny little country, Taiwan.


Yes, Korea was unknown before the 1950's era. But now, the world has changed and so has Korea.

I see some Taiwanese making stupid comments about Korea out of pure jealousy. Before you make such comments, I would suggest you stop watching Korean dramas, stop playing Korean games, stop copying Korean high-technologies without paying any royalty and stop idolizing Korean actors/actresses. Then we will listen to you.


oh man! dont start a war now,
taiwan is an independent nation doing quite well for itself

i love korea

Hahahaha, this "Korean pride" cracks me up. Go ahead, talk all the smack you want. Afterwards, why don't you Koreans get together and chant "Korean Pride" around a camp fire. Hahaha.

Here is another reason why there aren't many anti-Korean sentiments.

When Korea, namely South Korea, showed up on the International scene (around 1960's or 70's), South Korea was a U.S. "ally" (lapdog). Therefore, as a reward for being a U.S. "ally", South Korea was backed by the world's most powerful and influencial nation.

Just look at pre-WW2 Japan and post-WW2 Japan. Heck, Disney made cartoons making fun of "Japs". Look at how Japan is preceived in the U.S. now that it's an U.S. "ally".

oh come on! your not helping either

oh come on! your not helping either
Aside from me laughing at the over-nationalistic Koreans, please feel free to rebut any of the arguements I made regarding South Korea's status after the Korean War.

Hahahaha, this "Korean pride" cracks me up. Go ahead, talk all the smack you want. Afterwards, why don't you Koreans get together and chant "Korean Pride" around a camp fire. Hahaha


LOL. At least Koreans have things to show up their "pride". Taiwanese don't even have one. :nuts:




When Korea, namely South Korea, showed up on the International scene (around 1960's or 70's), South Korea was a U.S. "ally" (lapdog). Therefore, as a reward for being a U.S. "ally", South Korea was backed by the world's most powerful and influencial nation.



Oh Man. This guy is really fun to play with. :D

Now, you're partly acknowledging the status of Korea on the international scene by saying like that? Oh..I see. Now that you think you're driven to the corner, you've changed your whole opinion and now you're trying to create reason why Korea was becoming well-known after the 1970's. Hello? I think it's better off you just stick with your "Korea is not well known to the world" comment...hehe

I have yet to see a single Korean provide a mature and logical discussion. All I have seen are Koreans like plasma169 and Ellatur resort to personal attacks and baseless accusations.

Is this how you Koreans want to portray yourselves?

from what i see both of you are acting childish, making ridiculous comments on who can say what or who can do what, go on and enjoy yourselves, wont accomplish much, you guys will just see each other again in another thread

I have yet to see a single Korean provide a mature and logical discussion. All I have seen are Koreans like plasma169 and Ellatur resort to personal attacks and baseless accusations.

Is this how you Koreans want to portray yourselves?

Hey, pal. You must be an idiot to expect mature discussion after you made such a biased/stupid comment in the first place. And your tone in your posts doesn't sound good, either. But, you expect a welcoming post from the Koreans? :sleepy: God, you're too ignorant to even talk to.

Hey, just don't come here man. You're just a troll trying to stir things up in Korean forum.

Why don't you go argue with your fellow Chinese?
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=2148564#post2148564

Koreans don't want anything to do with your tiny little/non-existent Taiwanese.

S. Korea & ROC had it tidy & good relationship, What we called brotherhood nation indeed, since in 80's although another story as of today

No needed be hostile against for both in franky

Hey, pal. You must be an idiot to expect mature discussion after you made such a biased/stupid comment in the first place. And your tone in your posts doesn't sound good, either. But, you expect a welcoming post from the Koreans? :sleepy: God, you're too ignorant to even talk to.

Hey, just don't come here man. You're just a troll trying to stir things up in Korean forum.

Why don't you go argue with your fellow Chinese?
http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=2148564#post2148564

Koreans don't want anything to do with your tiny little/non-existent Taiwanese.


hey plasma! speak for yourself, i'm of korean descent and i have tons of taiwanese friends, i respect them very much, if you are speaking for yourself as a person then do so, i cannot tell you what to do, but please dont say
"WE" because your opinions have nothing to do with me, think about it pangu does not represent taiwan, dont bash his whole country because you dont like him, he is one individual

Hey, pal. You must be an idiot to expect mature discussion after you made such a biased/stupid comment in the first place. And your tone in your posts doesn't sound good, either. But, you expect a welcoming post from the Koreans? God, you're too ignorant to even talk to.
It's not my problem if you can't deal with reality.

It's not my problem if you can't deal with reality.

You remind me of "Inspire" at SSP. Any chance you're him?

Sorry ebck120 for messing things up! Point taken. :)

Ok, I have to jump in.

First of all, you guys are getting too personal and just talking stupid and throwing childish insults.

I disagree with you plasma169 that "99%" of people havent' heard of Taiwan or don't know where it is. If that's the response you're getting from the people you've been asking, then I suggest that you start associating yourself with some intellectual friends who know a thing or two about geography, technology and current events. If they ever went to high school let alone college, I'm assuming that they took world history or Asian history in which Taiwan and its history with China was covered. And who doesn't own a desktop computer or laptop, LCD panel, DVD player, semiconductor, cell phone, PDA or other hi-tech gadget not Made in Taiwan? All they have to do is look at the back of their hard drive or whatever product they own. Taiwan has tremendous influence in the global hi-tech industries.

(By the way, did you know that Taiwanese now have 2 satellites floating around in space that they built themselves? But of course with western technical assistance, but what Asian country didn't get technical assistance?)

Regarding pop culture, yea so Korean pop culture is popular in Taiwan. (Tho I personally don't know why since most of the Korean dramas and music seem incredibly cheesey to me and just copycats of American and Japanese pop culture. But then after looking at what Taiwan media has to offer, I guess I can understand Taiwanese' interest in Korean entertainment. :laugh: ) You should be proud. Don't gloat - that makes people anti-Korean. But I'm sure you've heard of Ang Lee and seen his films. You know, that famous TAIWANESE director of such films as Eat Drink Man Woman, The Wedding Bangquet, The Hulk, and of course that tiny little film Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, only the biggest moneymaking Asian film in American history. I don't know how much money it made globally, but it probably topped that ranking too.

I'll talk about the anti-Korean subject since that's what this thread is about. And I don't have any personal biases against Koreans, and I have Korean friends, both FOBs and non-FOBs. And my bro dated Korean girls who were nice and my cousin's married to one, so again I'm not being anti-Korean. Just speaking my mind and being sincere, ok? But I have heard of people not liking Koreans, both in NYC and Los Angeles, 2 cities that I've lived in. I've just heard from people that they thought Koreans were cold and unfriendly and they only associate with other Koreans and speak in Korean all the time. Even many of the Korean-Americans just hang among themselves. In L.A., Koreans are up there with Armenians, another group who aren't very well-liked. You know what's funny? Many Korean-Americans don't like foreign Koreans. I've never heard of Chinese-Americans not liking Chinese foreigners or Taiwanese-Americans not liking Taiwanese-foreigners. But after hanging out with many Koreans, I guess I can see the differences in native and non-native culture and understand the reasons.

I'll talk about the anti-Korean subject since that's what this thread is about. And I don't have any personal biases against Koreans

As the eminent philosopher Kant, Immanuel once saide in "The Critique of Pure Reason",

"Hatred stems from jealousy".

That's all I have to say about the subject.

Maybe you should look at the reasons people are touting, instead of incessantly repeating the "jealousy" excuse. It's such a copout reason.

No need for all this crap. thread closed