Anyways tesba7o 3ala 5er ya gama3a.

yesterday shall be torned from the history, today shall be the turning point and tomorow shall be a brand new white page in the egyptian history. Lets keep it clean and white for ever :)

Before you sleep check out this picture. :rofl: :rofl:

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how am i going to sleep now cant atop laughing

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God my stomach is hurting thanks to you.

Before you sleep check out this picture. :rofl: :rofl:

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Erga3 ya rayess konna ben7azar ma3ak!!!!!!!!!!!!!

alif mabrook li kul al ma9reen fi kul makan ! We are very happy for your great achievment ! The brave Egyptian people have inspired millions around the world

I hope to see all the Arab dictators fall one after the other !

Kind regards, from your friends at the Iraq forum

YA GAMA3A I FEEL STRANGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


3al Al-Masreya ba2o by2olo ''Mobarak'' badal ''Rayess Hosny Mobarak''

Does anyone have a Cairo banner? It'd be quite appropriate to display it at the top of the page. PM me.

Does anyone have a Cairo banner? It'd be quite appropriate to display it at the top of the page. PM me.

There are some kind of banners in Sky Ahwa

عاجل : تدهور حالة الرئيس المصري السابق محمد حسني مبارك و دخوله في غيبوبة

تدهورت الحالة الصحية للرئيس السابق محمد حسني مبارك في الساعات القريبة الماضية و اكدت بعض المصادر المقربة منه انه في حالة غيبوبة كاملة يذكر ان الناحية الصحية للرئيس السابق محمد حسنى مبارك تتدهورت امس الاول ايضا حيث تعرض للأغماء مرتين أثناء تسجيل خطابة أمس ،، وانتقل بطائرة الرئاسة مع أسرته متوجها إلي مدينة شرم الشيخ لقضاء ما تبقي له و أكدت مصادر ان تدهور حالته الصحية ،، جعلت الأطباء يزيدون من جرعات العلاج الكيماوي الحيوي الذي يتناولة لعلاج السرطان وقد أصيب بنوبتى إغماء خلال إلقائة بيانه الذى أذاعة التليفزيون المصري ، وقامت إدارة الأعلام بمؤسسة الرئاسة بعمل مونتاج على خطاب الرئيس وتجري السلطات المصرية اتصالات منذ ثلاثة أيام مع المستشفي الألماني الذي يعالج الرئيس مبارك


The article says that Hosny Mobarak in Coma!!!!!
And may die within next hour or days :(

Ironic ain't it? Egypt wakes up from coma, Mubarak goes into one.
We fe siteen alf dahya!

By the way, I have to ask you guys what you think about Al Jazeera. Have you had a change of opinion about the channel after their coverage of the revolution? I was steamed the first day or two when they didn't mention the protest but then they got their act together and provided the best live broadcasts even under pressure.

They have been redeemed in my eyes. (Yes, I'm still talking about AJ Arabic)

Long life to free Egyptian people !!!
Congratulation !!!

Excuse me my Egyptian brothers I'll be a little selfish, I'll talk about my country the truth will always shine and the people who caused the "Fitna" between us you know them, here is an exemple :

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10000000 Mabrouk Again:banana:, an Algerian brother

Congratulation !

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^^ Cool picture. :)

Thanks guys. I want all the dictators in the region to fall and they will, isA.

It's absolutely amazing to see how united the Egyptian people are.

ELF MABROUK YA CHAAB MASR EL CHAQIQ ELF TA7YA MIN TOUNÉS !!!!!

thanks for the support and everything :hug:

ELF MABROUK YA CHAAB MASR EL CHAQIQ ELF TA7YA MIN TOUNÉS !!!!!

Thank YOU for the inspiration. We're now together in the free world :)






Anyway, some beautiful pics from yesterday, immediately after the news was announced, celebration and joy:

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I love this picture, soldier and a child :)

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And today, when they woke up free:

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The Martyrs, we will never forget:

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Egypt slaps travel ban on ex-PM
February 12, 2011

Egypt's chief prosecutor on Saturday banned former prime minister Ahmed Nazif from leaving the country, a day after the overthrow of president Hosni Mubarak, state news agency MENA reported.

The prosecutor also banned Habib al-Adly, the widely despised former interior minister, from travelling and froze his assets, MENA said.

The two ministers were sacked along with the rest of the government in a failed bid by Mubarak to placate protesters in the early days of the uprising that led to his resignation on Friday, ending his 30-year reign.

-AFP/NOW Lebanon

Masr el naharda guys, mahmoud said is back and zewil will be on masr el naharda today, you better not miss this!

Masr el naharda guys, mahmoud said is back and zewil will be on masr el naharda today, you better not miss this!

I'm i dreaming?????



Is it me or i am more determined to live in Egypt after my study????? :banana:

I'm totally going to live in Egypt, isA. :)

Hehe I can offer a slap :laugh:


By the way fe 7azr tagawel today from 12 till 6 am tomorrow will people follow it?

No. :laugh:

Currently they are talking about the law and what's next on masr el naharda when zewil come ill let you guys know.

Zweil on masr el naharda now guy, watch!!!

Beautiful Beautiful pictures!! Yalla Ya Masr! I wish was at Tahrir Square yesterday night.. What a great, emotional moment for Egypt and Egyptians! Let's hope Egypt will become a wonderful, democratic country for the Egyptian folks in the future! :cheers:

Beautiful Beautiful pictures!! Yalla Ya Masr! I wish was at Tahir Square yesterday night.. What a great, emotional moment for Egypt and Egyptians! Let's hope Egypt will become a wonderful, democratic country for the Egyptian folks in the future! :cheers:

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Dear Tourists, sorry for the temporary shutdown, Egypt was under necessary
maintenance, we're happy to welcome you back in a much better Egypt soon. You’ll be impressed

:D

The Telegraph: Mubarak used last 18 days in power to secure his fortune: Western intelligence sources http://bit.ly/eqeYhA

Doesn't look like it worked. :lol:

Why do I feel in love? Can someone answer meh? :happy:

Why do I feel in love? Can someone answer meh? :happy:

:hug:

Algeria shuts down internet and Facebook as protest mounts - Telegraph: http://bit.ly/i7oavY :rofl:

From Twitter:

"Mubarak dies and meets Sadat and Nasser in the afterlife. They ask him: Poisoned or assassinated? He replies: "Facebooked" #egypt #jan25

HAHAHA :lol:

From Twitter:

"Mubarak dies and meets Sadat and Nasser in the afterlife. They ask him: Poisoned or assassinated? He replies: "Facebooked" #egypt #jan25

HAHAHA :lol:



hhhhhhhhh.... Heard it on Dream tv 2 days ago

oh well... it's funny :lol:

Hhhhhhhhhhhh

You guys must see this video
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=500603971385

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:lol::lol: 5alehom yefra7o el 2sbo7 dah 3idddddddddd!

BTW here are some remarks,

http://www.facebook.com/MASR.Future

25th of Jan Party,

http://www.facebook.com/25janhezb

The 25th January Party looks quite interesting. I'd like to see a political party with young, fresh people with good and re-freshing plans. :D

Al-Qaradawi: Freedom takes priority over Islamic law http://ow.ly/3VeLf #Egypt #Mubarak #Jan25

Today Communique No.4 was released by the army, it was a very VERY important statement:

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These are the most important points the generals have agreed on :


The army is obliged to what was said in the previous communiqués.
The government and the people to return back to their responsibilities toward the country
The current government and governors will continue performing its duties till we have a new elected government.
The council is looking forward to guarantee the peaceful transitional of power in a democratic system that allows civil state.
Egypt respects its international treaties
The army calls the people of Egypt to cooperate with the police.


Ok the world especially Israel and the U.S only care for the assurance that Egypt still respects its international treaties or to be accurate Camp David treaty but yet what we care about in Egypt here in this very important time :

The assurance that the the army council will guarantee the peaceful transitional of rule in a democratic system that allows civil state , yes a civil state not a military state , this is a very important thing.

People are speaking about a Turkish scenario taking place in Egypt , we do not know that yet and I think we must know that Egypt is not Turkey , Egypt is not Tunisia despite all similarities. We can learn from the Turkey and Tunisia though.

Another important point in this communiqué is that we are going to have a new government instead of Ahmed Shafik’s cahinet. By the way minister of information Anas El-Fiky was arrested in his attempt to get away from the country to London

Regarding the police , well we are ready to open an page with them but they have to be there , in the past 48 hours there was not a single officer or solider protecting the streets at night , some will say that there is a curfew but let’s be frank there was not a real curfew in Egypt. Already today the curfew has become from 12 AM to 6 AM.





Also, even the Shiekhs don't want an Islamic Government! :happy:

Al-Qaradawi: Freedom takes priority over Islamic law

Preserving the people's freedom is more important than setting up a system of Sharia (Islamic law), even though freedom remains part and parcel of Sharia, said Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi on Friday evening in an interview with Al Jazeera television network. Al-Qaradawi, who is an influential Islamic thinker and president of the International Union for Muslim Scholars, is closely tied to the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt's largest opposition group.

Recently, some members of the Brotherhood have tried to alleviate concerns that they want to establish an Islamic state by asserting that the Brotherhood does not seek to the rule the country or establish an Islamist government in Egypt.

Al-Qaradawi also emphasized that the army should protect the nation and the rights of the people, rather than rule the country. He stressed that the right to protest peacefully for the sake of a better life is granted by Islam and recognized by every human rights convention. He congratulated the Egyptian people and the Arab nation on the departure of President Hosni Mubarak after 18 days of the revolutionary struggle.

He described the young revolutionaries as honorable Egyptians who went beyond the call of duty to achieve national justice.

Al-Qaradawi expressed his confidence that God had aided them because he aids those who sacrifice in order to bring about justice, adding, "I was sure that God would aid the revolutionaries. I swore in my Friday sermon that God would soon help these youth, and that is indeed what turned out happening.”

Holding the ousted president responsible for the bloodshed, he said that “God wanted to award this victory to the Egyptian people” and denounced claims that Egyptians were servile and slavish.

He added that Tahrir Square had become a university for the educating the virtues of self-sacrifice, and suggested that the square should be renamed “25 January Revolution Square.”

Al-Qaradawi praised independent media outlets for disclosing facts and uncovering falsehoods while criticizing government owned media outlets as misleading. He accused the later of having continued its campaign of deception up to the final moments before Mubarak’s resignation was announced.

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Egypt govt officials banned from traveling abroad

Egypt's military relaxed a nighttime curfew Saturday and banned current and ex-government officials from traveling abroad without permission in its first moves since taking power after President Hosni Mubarak's ouster.

The moves came as Egyptian protesters were jubilant over their success in ousting the longtime authoritarian leader, but many vowed to stay camped in Cairo's central Tahrir, or Liberation, square until they hear "clear assurances" that the military will meet their demands for democracy.

Mubarak surrendered power to the military Friday after an 18-day uprising by millions of protesters demanding his ouster and the introduction of sweeping democratic reforms. Mubarak's regime has faced long-standing allegations of corruption.

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces pledged to shepherd reforms for greater democracy and said it would issue a statement Saturday detailing its next steps.

A Cairo airport official said there is a list of former regime members and current officials with state institutions who are not allowed to leave the country without permission from the state prosecutor or the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to release the information, declined to identify those on the list. But he said Information Minister Anas el-Fiqqi sent his luggage but did not appear for a planned flight to London Saturday, apparently after hearing of the ban.

"These instructions are meant to prevent any people who were in charge in the previous era from fleeing," the airport official said.

Egypt's state television also reported the military had ordered that a nighttime curfew be relaxed to start at midnight and end at 6 am — instead of 8 pm to 6 am.

It was the latest sign that life was returning to normal.

Banks reopened last week and the stock market was scheduled to reopen on Wednesday, nearly three weeks after it was closed.

Most stores in Cairo have reopened, and the usually congested traffic in the city of 18 million is returning to its normal level.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/egypt-govt-officials-banned-traveling-abroad


Cairo erupts in joy after Mubarak resigns

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“He resigned!” a young man joyously called out in a street a few blocks from where a few thousand people gathered to protest in front of President Hosni Mubarak’s Presidential Palace in Heliopolis. His right arm was raised while his left clutched a cell phone to his ear. Someone on the end of the line had informed him that Mubarak resigned.

The street, out of view of the protests taking place nearby, erupted in cheers as passersby embraced each other amid cries of jubiliation and fluttering hand-held Egyptian flags. Cars honked their horns and as people opened windows of their vehicles to partake in the spontaneous celebration.

Throughout the day, protesters had gradually trickled to the Presidential Palace from Tahrir Square, located an hour away on foot. They had demonstrated in front of barbed wire and army tanks that blocked streets surrounding the palace.

After the announcement, some groups of protesters hurried back to Tahrir Square, intent on joining the larger crowds that celebrated there. A common slogan heard during the protests that began on January 25, “The people want the regime to fall,” abruptly transformed to “The people, finally, fell the regime,” among groups of passing youths.

Not everyone was happy. One man worked quietly in his pizza shop nearby, his face sullen with suppressed anger. “What’s to be happy about?” He asked. “Mubarak gave us jobs,” he said, almost teary-eyed, as he rung up at his cash register a bottle of mineral water .

On the metro heading to Tahrir, another man, a 55-year-old salesman, defended the regime in front of a group of youths. “Over his thirty-years of rule, there was some good!” he said. The atmosphere’s cheerfulness turned suddenly into fuming indignation.

“Great, then you can go join him!” one young man called out, among competing voices that attempted to be heard in waves of arguments, directed by the young men against the man, that followed. He pointed to outside the train. Indeed, the older man left the train at the next station, and the young men burst into cheers as the doors closed behind him.

“God is great!” They chanted in mirthful rupture once the train had departed the station.

An older woman, who had been seated next to older man, abandoned her seat and relocated to the opposite end of the train's car. “Shame on you!” she called to the youths as she passed, expressing her disapproval of how they had treated the older man.

A young man suggested that Mubarak metro station, an important transit stop on the way to Tahrir, needed a name change. One suggested “Martyrs’ Station.” Another countered with “Facebook Station.” Facebook is largely credited with helping to bring about Mubarak's departure because it enabled youths across Egypt to coordinate protest activities despite attempts by the regime to block access to the site.

Meantime, Tahrir Square witnessed some of its most animated moments since the protests first started on 25 January. People pushed to make their way into the center of square as some tried to exit and yet others tried to pray. Creating space around emerging columns of worshippers, some people tried to prevent the crowds from inching in front of worshippers--as it is sacrilege in Islam for people to stand directly in front of Muslims as they pray.

“People will fall down!” a woman cautioned in an accusatory tone, as people attempted to maneuver within the mobs.

In the center of the square, fireworks were set off as crowds sang the national anthem. “Raise your head, you’re Egyptian!” people chanted. The slogan indicated a renewed sense of pride among a nation that had for decades witnessed deteriorating living conditions amid authoritarian repression.

In keeping with Egypt’s oft-noted tradition of using humor in both good times and bad, one young man proclaimed his own preferred slogan. “Raise your head, you will marry!” he said, expressing optimism that now with Mubarak gone, the country’s economic situation would improve. Due to high unemployment and increasing poverty in Egypt, young Egyptian men often complain that they do not have sufficient financial resources to marry.

Another man protested that he already had a wife. “Fine! Then you can marry a second,” the first man countered, playing with the fact that under Islam and Egyptian law, men are permitted to have up to four wives simultaneously.

Despite the festive atmosphere, some Egyptians privately confessed that despite their joy following Mubarak’s departure, they feared more for the future of the country now that he was gone.

“See all these people,” said Ahmed, 24, who works in convenience store near the square. “Today, they’re united in the euphoria of having achieved their single minded mission.” The mission to which he was referring was Mubarak's departure.

“Tomorrow, they’ll be at each other’s throats as each tries to impose his own idea of what the country should do now.”

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/cairo-erupts-joy-after-mubarak-resigns

Very interesting post Egypt69! Thank you. I don't want to see that Egypt is going to be an Islamic Government I think it's not posible because of the large amount of European tourism and Coptic residents.

Mabrouk to all you guys! You made us proud! I hope Egypt can build a future worthy of its amazing past.

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Mabrouk to all you guys! You made us proud! I hope Egypt can build a future worthy of its amazing past.

Thank you. :hug:

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A short video was shown today in masr el naharda about the Martyrs.

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:( I teared up :(

Here is a website with a list, pictures and information of the martyrs of the Egyptian Revolution: http://1000memories.com/egypt

We must never forget these martyrs and their bravery. They are absolute heroes.

Look at them, mainly young, ambitious with lots of hope in their eyes.

I think the saddest part is that they never got to see the light of freedom. They're not here with us today, and they can't share the joy and freedom with us. Their last moments on earth were moments of violence and oppression. They will never be able to live in freedom and peace like we will be able to.

These are the people who gave up THEIR lives to pay for OUR freedom today. And they need to be honored and remembered always and forever.

I think that as soon as everything stabilizes, we MUST erect a memorial statue in memory of the martyrs in Tahrir Square, with each and every name, and have an annual National Holiday and National Mourning in their honor and memory.

And ofcourse, the people responsible for the murder of these innocent people need to be brought to justice.

Lest we ever forget the martyrs of the Egyptian Revolution. Their lives have not gone in vain. And they will be in our hearts forever, and ever.

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I'm looking at the link I psoted, there were even people as young as 8 years old shot and killed. Kids :ohno:

Watching Wael Lebrashy show on Dream...


MHM 3ando 2assar fe Fransa!

Still feel weird when I hear Mubarak being referred to as "the former President of Egypt" on TV. Still can't get over this either, "served" being in the past tense:

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CONGRATULATIONS EGYPT



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Thank you :hug:

Still feel weird when I hear Mubarak being referred to as "the former President of Egypt" on TV. Still can't get over this either, "served" being in the past tense:
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I know, it feels so wierd. :)


Check out this great picture

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Hehe, when ever someone say el rayess I say al sabekkkkk! 2fhamo ba2a :D so hard to get used to.

None of us have ever seen another president in Egypt, we're all under 30. That's why it's wierd. :)

Who said that? I'm 93 :smug:

2wel ra2es sabe2 le masr all the others were killed.

No, you're born year 92. :D

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Thank you. :hug:

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Ben Ali is working undercover in Egypt. :laugh:


I feel so proud when I see these pictures, I wish I was there.

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Yallahwy ya mido kont hamot men el dehk. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Azmat that is soooo cute and adorable. I wass kiss her. I'm no pedo though.

I know, she reminds me of my cousins daughter. :hug:

Question guys.. what was this revolution called? Did it end up being nicknamed something?

Like Tunisia's was Jasmine Revolution (not fully accepted by all though) and is named after their national flower.
Lebanon's was Cedar Revolution and is named after our national tree.

Following the same pattern Egypt's could be the Lotus Revolution, or does it already have a name?

^^ awh... sweet sweet girl! And I think the revolution is called: Revolution #Jan25 or the Jan25 Revolution.

Twitter: RT @anasqtiesh: Dubai TV announces that ousted pres. Mubarak has arrived to Dubai #Jan25 #egypt

So he is in Dubai or Sharm el Sheikh... it's confusing! :lol:

Its called 25th of january revolution.

The Army has released Communique #5, and it's VERY important again:


Freezing the current constitution.
Dissolving the parliament “both chambers”
The army will rule the country for a transitional period of 6 months. “We are speaking in August 2011”
Forming a committee to amend some constitution articles “ I am confused with the first decision”
Ahmed Shafik’s cabinet will continue in its job till having a new cabinet ‘when !?’
Mohamed Hussein Tantawy , the minister of defense who heads the council represents outside and inside the country. ‘Like our president now’
Egypt respects its international treaties again so Israel calm down.



Hmm, I'm skeptical.


Positives:
Dissolving the rigged Parliament.
The army is transitional for 6 month or until elections r held for parliament and president.

Negatives:
Nothing about the detainees.
Nothing about Emergency laws.
PM Shafik still in office and no timetable is set for this caretaker gov. or who elects/appoints the new gov.
Only amends to the tailored constitution and no talk of a complete rewrite.

OMG!!!! Happened in my small town!
It was a tank fighting some baltageya
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This video shows how people were waiting the baltageya in the car crossing the canal of suez and to stop them we had to do a human chain and fight back.
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The Army has released Communique #5, and it's VERY important again:


Freezing the current constitution.
Dissolving the parliament “both chambers”
The army will rule the country for a transitional period of 6 months. “We are speaking in August 2011”
Forming a committee to amend some constitution articles “ I am confused with the first decision”
Ahmed Shafik’s cabinet will continue in its job till having a new cabinet ‘when !?’
Mohamed Hussein Tantawy , the minister of defense who heads the council represents outside and inside the country. ‘Like our president now’
Egypt respects its international treaties again so Israel calm down.



Hmm, I'm skeptical.


Positives:
Dissolving the rigged Parliament.
The army is transitional for 6 month or until elections r held for parliament and president.

Negatives:
Nothing about the detainees.
Nothing about Emergency laws.
PM Shafik still in office and no timetable is set for this caretaker gov. or who elects/appoints the new gov.
Only amends to the tailored constitution and no talk of a complete rewrite.

They already said earlier that they would remove the emergency law as soon as the people leave the streets.

Negatives:
Nothing about the detainees.
Nothing about Emergency laws.
PM Shafik still in office and no timetable is set for this caretaker gov. or who elects/appoints the new gov.
Only amends to the tailored constitution and no talk of a complete rewrite.


The political detainees issue is bigger than we thought... All those that were localised were free'd but none knows what really happened to others. We think that Hosny Mobarak may have executed them when he was holding the power.

43 are banned from going outside egypt.

The detainees?

The detainees?

eh

Are they the ones that are banned from leaving?

Fe dr Nemsawy 3awz yedi le sha3b el Masri Nobel Price
w Fc Barcelona made a 1 minute silence for Egyptians
Via Masr El Naharda

Check it out Presidency website is under construction http://bit.ly/dVd3R8

^^ seme3t el lewa? Ragel mo7taram wallahi he made me proud!

Check it out Presidency website is under construction http://bit.ly/dVd3R8

Interesting, I hope they fix the design. It used to look horrible.

The website was like that from algeria's game days. Nothing to do with this.

^^ seme3t el lewa? Ragel mo7taram wallahi he made me proud!

Ragel gada3. 2al enol sha3b lazem yeb2a waseq fel hoqoma w eno7m 3awzeen ye 3'ayaro nezam el tahkem men Geishy la Solta democraseya

He said we want this to end faster than the people want, this is stressful work for us.

Btw i was shocked when amr khaled said that fc barsa had a min silent for us and david cameron said we want to teach our people to be like egyptians, felt sooo proud man.

He said we want this to end faster than the people want, this is stressful work for us.

Btw i was shocked when amr khaled said that fc barsa had a min silent for us and david cameron said we want to teach our people to be like egyptians, felt sooo proud man.

Erfa3 rasak w bos le fo2 :cheers:
But i will regret all my life for not assisting the revolution :(

Egypt: Vince Cable calls for international action to locate Mubarak billions


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8321815/Egypt-Vince-Cable-calls-for-international-action-to-locate-Mubarak-billions.html

Yes man, rasy dayman fo2 but I still can't believe I wished that egypt one day be like the uk and now the uk is wishing to be like egypt my heart is beating!

Yes I know, but I believe as an Egyptians we helped with a way or another we may not be from those who protested but our support is enough to say that we were part of it. Our hearts were.

Also to not regret this again we should really start participating in building egypt.

Sources: Mubarak falls into coma in Sharm al-Sheikh

Ousted President Hosni Mubarak went into a coma on Saturday at his residence in Sharm al-Sheikh, according to well-informed sources.

Mubarak flew to the Red Sea resort town on Thursday with his immediate family following his final speech, in which he handed over executive authority to former Vice-President Omar Suleiman.

The same sources said that Mubarak was currently receiving medical treatment but that no decision had yet been made on whether to transfer the 83-year-old former head-of-state to hospital.

Rumors had circulated earlier that Mubarak had fainted twice while recording his final speech, which was broadcast on state television on Thursday evening.

Translated from the Arabic Edition.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/sources-mubarak-falls-coma-sharm-al-sheikh

Ya rab terga3 el felos.

Yes man, rasy dayman fo2 but I still can't believe I wished that egypt one day be like the uk and now the uk is wishing to be like egypt my heart is beating!

Yes I know, but I believe as an Egyptians we helped with a way or another we may not be from those who protested but our support is enough to say that we were part of it. Our hearts were.

Also to not regret this again we should really start participating in building egypt.

We will... I'm only waiting to finish my study and then i move on. I told my mother if they wanted to come with me, i'd be happy if not.... I will make my own route

Yes Its more than just 40 or 70 billion of mubarak the old gov alone stole more than 500billion and tried to flee! Can number even be money? Half a trillion!

Yes Its more than just 40 or 70 billion of mubarak the old gov alone stole more than 500billion and tried to flee! Can number even be money? Half a trillion!

Da men 3'eir all the thing stolen since 2ayam Nasser.

Yaa I mean really that is like more than our GPD (PPP) in dollars too if it was egyptian pound I might belive it but its in dollars!!! Ya3ny I don't know what can a person do with that much?

Sources: Mubarak falls into coma in Sharm al-Sheikh


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/sources-mubarak-falls-coma-sharm-al-sheikh

Thats great!! :banana: I hope he will not wake-up :cheers:

They're all corrupt thieves, this will be the first time we'll get a proper government, isA. If all the money that was stolen from Egypt was returned they could rebuild all of Egypt and give us first world infrastructure.


I no longer want Mubarak dead as long as he stays away from us.

Thats great!! :banana: I hope he will not wake-up :cheers:


I wouldn't comment on that.... I don't encourage such comment bas da wag7et nazary. :dunno:

I think Gamal Mobarak deserves more to be punnished than his father...

Many people are poor and dead because of him. I don't really care when he dies..

I think Gamal Mobarak deserves more to be punnished than his father...

Ana el awel eftakarto ragel mo7taram, tela3 zebela, anyal mn abo.

Many people are poor and dead because of him. I don't really care when he dies..

W 3ala fekra, el shaytn shater.... Be ma3na

E Ragel el beted3y 3aleh kan mosta3ed yemot le balado. 2akd le7 3'alatato . Ana benezbaly, Ana basada2sh eli beyet2al fel kol el sa7afeyat. Ana baheb 2afarat fel game3 el 7awale... Be ma3na eno momken yokn el kelab el 7awale 7oma el kano wa7shn. Fe so7ofeyat fe Masr 2alo en Gamal w Alaa 2etshaklo gameed w 2a3ado ye7adedo b3d. Alaa beysabeb mashakl 2abo 3ala Gamal. El ebn kalb kan bey2awy 2abo 3shn yemsk fel Sulta... Takhayal!!!!

Law makansh fe mawdo3 el wers ben Hosny w Gamal.... Kan Zamanet Hosny tele3 ka mn 2a3zm rayes fe tarekh Masr

Takhayal!!!!!!!!!

Am I missing something?

Am I missing something?

Hosny fe 3'ayboba!

W 3ala fekra, el shaytn shater.... Be ma3na

E Ragel el beted3y 3aleh kan mosta3ed yemot le balado. 2akd le7 3'alatato . Ana benezbaly, Ana basada2sh eli beyet2al fel kol el sa7afeyat. Ana baheb 2afarat fel game3 el 7awale... Be ma3na eno momken yokn el kelab el 7awale 7oma el kano wa7shn. Fe so7ofeyat fe Masr 2alo en Gamal w Alaa 2etshaklo gameed w 2a3ado ye7adedo b3d. Alaa beysabeb mashakl 2abo 3ala Gamal. El ebn kalb kan bey2awy 2abo 3shn yemsk fel Sulta... Takhayal!!!!

Law makansh fe mawdo3 el wers ben Hosny w Gamal.... Kan Zamanet Hosny tele3 ka mn 2a3zm rayes fe tarekh Masr

Takhayal!!!!!!!!!

Really nice.. but I can't read that... only English.:)

Really nice.. but I can't read that... only English.:)

Khale wele

I said... I can't read that... If they were Arabic letters I could use google translator.

He was talking about mubarak and the dogs around him influencing him, I really don't think you want to read that it will make you depressed. Let keep on celebrating :banana:

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Egyptian community in Vancouver :)
Guess who I am :P

Egypt's New Military Rulers To Ban Unions, Strikes
by Marwa Awad and Alistair Lyon

CAIRO - Egypt's new military rulers will issue a warning on Monday against anyone who creates "chaos and disorder", an army source said.

Egyptian protesters stage a sit-in in Tahrir Square, rejecting army's appeal to leave. (John Moore/Getty Images) The Higher Military Council will also ban meetings by labor unions or professional syndicates, effectively forbidding strikes, and tell all Egyptians to get back to work after the unrest that toppled Hosni Mubarak.

The army will also say it acknowledges and protects the right of people to protest, the source said.

Protesters argued heatedly in Tahrir Square over whether to stay or comply with army orders to leave. "The people want the square cleared," one group chanted. "We will not leave, we will not leave," replied another.

Police officers, emboldened by Mubarak's downfall, gathered outside the Interior Ministry to demand higher pay. Warning shots were fired in the air. No one was hurt.

Workers from the health and culture ministries staged demonstrations as Egyptians began venting pent-up frustrations.

Thousands of workers have staged strikes, sit-ins and protests over pay and conditions at firms and government agencies in fields such as steel, textiles, telecoms, railways, post offices, banks and oil and pharmaceutical companies.

Egypt declared Monday a bank holiday after workers disrupted operations at the country's main state banks.

Protest organizers were forming a Council of Trustees to defend the revolution and urge swift reform from a military intent on restoring law and order during the transition.

Mahmoud Nassar, a youth movement leader, said: "The army has moved far along to meet the people's demands and we urge it to release all political prisoners who were taken before and after January 25 revolution. Only then will we call off the protests."

'Victory March'

Protesters have demanded the release of political prisoners, the lifting of a state of emergency, the abolition of military courts, fair elections and a swift handover to civilian rule.

The army has said it would lift emergency law, used to stifle dissent under Mubarak, when "current circumstances end". But it has not specified a timetable.

Despite Mubarak's resignation, some protesters have said they plan to stay in Tahrir Square to ensure the military keeps its promises on transition. They have urged Egyptians to turn out in their millions for a "victory march" on Friday.

The military's strategy has been to calm the nation and the world about its intentions and, in the short term, to try to enforce the law after the disgraced police melted away, having failed to crush protesters with teargas and batons.

On Saturday, the army said it would uphold Egypt's international obligations. These include a peace treaty with Israel, whose defence minister has been in touch with his Egyptian counterpart, who heads the military council.

How to handle policing has become a pressing issue.

Interior Minister Mahmoud Wagdy has said Egypt needs "the speedy return of the police to duty", saying 13 000 inmates who escaped from prison early in the uprising were still on the run.

Some traffic police were back on Cairo streets beside soldiers and tanks guarding intersections and key buildings. But the minister said the police force was only back at 35% of its pre-crisis strength, without giving numbers.

http://ht.ly/3VHF2

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12444787

Shofto el geish w 7owa beyedrab moza7rn??? :blink:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/9094/z9094218W,Wiwatujacy-tlum-na-placu-w-Kairze.jpg

I hope that despite the military rule the great hopes of the Egyptian people for a better future will come true :)

Sources: Mubarak falls into coma in Sharm al-Sheikh

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/sources-mubarak-falls-coma-sharm-al-sheikhI expect a lot of disinformation on the current of Mubarak's place of residence and his health following days. According to "Washington Post" he's not even in Sharm el Sheikh now, but he jumped in Sharm into jet and after one day in Dubai he flew to Germany for his treatment (the same information comes from "Al-Masry Al-Youm") which was denounced by both UAE and German authorities. All this disinformation is probably to hide where he is and where are the money stolen by him and his family :(

http://m.onet.pl/_m/025a84b0fd8e3d7a028a76b9608f219e,12,1.jpg
PAP/EPA/AFP/Reuters after onet.pl

Wasakhet AHmed Ezz banet, beysabeb el fasad w tazwer le Hosny Mobarak :no:
Kadab w seten kadab

What do you except? He's egypt69 relative!

What do you except? He's egypt69 relative!


Begad? is he really one of his relatives???

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Hhhhhhhhh

Judging by name yes, bas momken tashaboh fel 2asma2. We going to have to wait for a clarification.

its time for these protesters to get off the streets and go back to work...enough already

A must read !!!

Important Report (http://www.masrawy.com/News/Egypt/Politics/2011/february/14/malt.aspx)

proud to be egyptian

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Muslim Brotherhood to form political party in Egypt http://ow.ly/3Wgsu #Jan25 #Egypt

Official report: Egypt’s debts reach LE1080 billion
Staff


The Egyptian Central Auditing Organization (CAO) on Monday said the country’s internal and external debts reached LE1080 billion, constituting 89.5 percent of Egypt’s total 2010 GDP.

“The internal debt on 30 June 2010 reached LE888 billion or 73.6 percent of GDP,” said CAO chairman Gawdat al-Malt, adding that the figure was in accordance with central bank statistics, and that it has exceeded a so-called safety limit for levels of debt.

Al-Malt also said the CAO had submitted several reports on wasting public funds to former Prime Minister Ahmed Nazif, who had ignored them.

“Ministers and officials did not take people’s demands seriously,” he said. “They were unable to predict problems or cope with crises.”

“Crises had worsened despite many warning signs,” he added. “And some officials had even contributed to those crises.”

“Monopoly, dumping and price rises became rampant in the Egyptian market, which was inundated with fake and counterfeit goods,” he said.

Al-Malt pointed out that there are 16.232 million people, or 21.6 percent of the population, who live under the poverty line, many of whom live in villages of Upper Egypt.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/official-report-egypt%E2%80%99s-debts-reach-le1080-billion

Ya nhar eswed :eek2:

Ali Lotfi (former Prime Minister of Egypt) on Al-Hayat TV : Stolen Egyptian money exceeds 500 billion EGP.

Getting them back is hard, but not impossible.

Ali Lotfi (former Prime Minister of Egypt) on Al-Hayat TV : Stolen Egyptian money exceeds 500 billion EGP.

Getting them back is hard, but not impossible.

Yalawhy!!! Beyzafeto eih bl felos di kolaha?

:eek2:

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Why are you guys surprised? I said it in the last page. Btw I though 500 billion dollars not LE and 1.08 trillion LE debt is just way way way toooo much!



Btw montreal, did you see masr el naharda today? Shocking video at the start looks like Egypt is chaos now!

That writer and the youth at the end were reallllllllllly gooooooood loved it! But we need to stop talking and do the action now. I also think those meetings they make should be broadcasted live on national tv. Here in the uk we have a channel called BBC parliament you see what happening and the debate.

^^
^^ Very Italian style ;)
Muslim Brotherhood to form political party in Egypt http://ow.ly/3Wgsu #Jan25 #EgyptSo they are going to break their promise about not starting in the parliamentary elections? :sly:

^^ I saw it too, I don't like Khayri Ramadan anymore but this episode was great. :)

We have 1.08 trillion LE debt and that f'er stole 500 billion LE.

Why are you guys surprised? I said it in the last page. Btw I though 500 billion dollars not LE and 1.08 trillion LE debt is just way way way toooo much!



Btw montreal, did you see masr el naharda today? Shocking video at the start looks like Egypt is chaos now!

That writer and the youth at the end were reallllllllllly gooooooood loved it! But we need to stop talking and do the action now. I also think those meetings they make should be broadcasted live on national tv. Here in the uk we have a channel called BBC parliament you see what happening and the debate.

La2 i was in College... When i was back kan fi Amr Salama w game3 el nas moshareken fel moza7ra w homa bey2ademo el khetab el ne7a2i... :(

They will post today's eps on there youtube channel tomorrow after it finishes if you go to there youtube channel now you should find zweil and amr khaled eps if you can post it here would be nice of you :D

And I agree ya azmat.

They will post today's eps on there youtube channel tomorrow after it finishes if you go to there youtube channel now you should find zweil and amr khaled eps if you can post it here would be nice of you :D

And I agree ya azmat.

I saw Zweil episode and i believe it was the best one to not miss. That guy is a genius and i'm going to vote for him in the election

ANd guys was talking with my family in Port-Said... We're talking about a serious mess... Gunshots are heard everywhere in the governorate.

http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/1244454852/dp.jpg

Egyptian agent Smith? :sly:

That guy is scaring me I can't sleep now!

Btw I know its chaos if you saw masr el naharda protester are everywhere. People protesting want to work other want there lost and stolen money other want more money even the firefighters and ambulance workers saying we are working with no money we want to get paid. Also police is useless when you ask him to do something about people driving opposite ways they go well isn't that what you wanted and blocked us for? Really el 7al ba2a we7esh! All these people need to go back home instead of the army spending time planning for the elections they are wasting time trying to sort things really people need some patience for couple of months.

http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/1244454852/dp.jpg

which post did that come from

That guy is scaring me I can't sleep now!

Btw I know its chaos if you saw masr el naharda protester are everywhere. People protesting want to work other want there lost and stolen money other want more money even the firefighters and ambulance workers saying we are working with no money we want to get paid. Also police is useless when you ask him to do something about people driving opposite ways they go well isn't that what you wanted and blocked us for? Really el 7al ba2a we7esh! All these people need to go back home instead of the army spending time planning for the elections they are wasting time trying to sort things really people need some patience for couple of months.

This a colonel Hussein Sherif (special forces)

which post did that come from

Watch Omar Soliman latest speech when Mobarak resigned... You will see his scary face :rofl:

Bey2olo en Kaddafy nezel fel moza7ra beta3t Libya w kan beyotlob esqat el nezam.... Bedon 7ezar!!!!
2alo7a 3ala Masreyaa!

Edit:Egypt cable are expired since they were mentionning Tantawi resistant for changes but seems that things changed

Mubarak 'depressed, fainting' as shock of being ousted hits health


Last Updated: 10:42 PM, February 14, 2011



SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt -- The health of deposed Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak is deteriorating and he is suffering from psychological distress after being forced from power, officials and media reports said Monday.

Ambulances and doctors were seen driving along the private driveway of Mubarak's mansion in Sharm el-Sheikh on Monday and security guards said that he was unwell.

“He has been feeling very unwell ... he is a very, very sick man,” a security guard, who has worked for Mubarak for three years, said, according to The (London) Times.

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian Ambassador to Washington, said that Mubarak, 82, was “possibly in somewhat bad health.” Two Egyptian newspapers said that the former president was depressed, refusing to take medication and passing out repeatedly.

The state of Mubarak’s health had been a secret during his 29 years in power. A newspaper editor was once jailed for questioning his wellbeing. It was known that he had surgery in March last year in Germany to remove an inflamed gall bladder and a benign intestinal tumor.

There were also reports Monday of family tensions during Mubarak’s last 24 hours in office, with the army urging him to quit to save the country from chaos but his family pushing him to cling to power. The independent online news site Almasry Alyoum said that Mubarak had an argument with his son and heir-apparent Gamal, snapping at him: “You have ruined my history in Egypt.”

There was also a row between Gamal and his elder brother Alaa as their father made a last appeal to the nation to allow him to stay until the elections in September. Alaa accused Gamal of ruining the country by helping his business cronies to become political leaders and miring Egypt in corruption and nepotism, the state-owned newspaper Al-Akhbar reported.

“Instead of working to help your father be honored at the end of his life, you helped to damage his image this way,” Alaa allegedly told Gamal. The brothers nearly came to blows and had to be separated by senior officials, the newspaper added.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/mubarak_depressed_fainting_as_shock_qozApm6xXEqi6cSY2A6O4O?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

Wael Ghonim Does- Not- Represent Me
Facebook photo taken from profile
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wael-Ghonim-Does-Not-Represent-Me/126301310774636

Habib el Adly Police vaccum was caused to tarnish the image of Hosny Mobarak. And many reports on Al Masreya tv says that that's what he said to the ex President:

''Sheltelak el Bolis men el Balad.... Khale el Geish yenfa3ak''

Facebook photo taken from profile
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:rofl:

they call that shag tag here :lol: like you wear it and if a girl saw you with it and like you, she goes with you and "make some love" :lol:


BTW I see it alot, people use it on TV programs alot, I'll do my research and tell you what exact it is.

Just saw Zahi Hawas on Al Jazeera English, what an arrogant, self-important prick. Is it a coincidence that all NDP lackeys act like that on live TV? "Ana m7adish yekalimni keda!" *hangs up*

Seriously, fuck that asshole and his retarded hat, he turned our antiquities into his own personal monopoly. Lazem yemshi ibn el 3ars da!

he embarrassed himself lie on tv :rofl:

The man is a compulsive liar and a charlatan, one day he declares that mummies were ripped up, then he says nothing has been stolen and later announces that 18 objects are missing. How can he say he has nothing to do with politics when he cooks up a new ministry just because he didn't get his dream job (Minister of Culture).

From Hawass' self-congratulatory blog:


An Update on Antiquities

I am pleased to report that an additional five objects that were stolen from the Qantara East Magazine in the Sinai were located and returned to the storage magazine on February 8, 2011. It seems that the thieves simply threw these five objects in the desert, and the police was able to retrieve them. (:nuts:) To date, 293 objects have been returned to the Qantara East Magazine, but as I have previously stated, we will not be able to know the exact number of the stolen objects until the current situation calms down. A committee will be formed in order to inventory the contents of the magazine. I believe that it will be impossible for the people who stole the objects to sell them. No museum or private collector will buy Egyptian antiquities now, they will be too scared. I am very happy that my calls for the return of these objects on television and in newspapers were successful.

The many rumors spread about Egyptian antiquities were started by people who weren’t fully informed on the state of museums and sites throughout the country. I would like to remind people that it would be useful for me to announce any stolen or damaged objects and sites because local and international organizations and institutions would unite to help search for and repair the Egyptian antiquities. It is my job to be honest; I am not a politician and I never will be. My job, since I was 19 and a half up until today, has been to protect and care for the monuments of Egypt. I will continue to run excavations and write articles and books because this is what I love to do.

There are people who are still concerned about the antiquities and monuments of Egypt. I would again like to reassure the world that the tomb of Maya, south of Saqqara is safe. People have asked me to move all the objects from the Egyptian Museum, Cairo to another location. I am telling everyone now: the museum is safe because the Egyptian Army and the Egyptian people are protecting it. The Egyptian people are proud of their cultural heritage, and have done all they can to protect it.

I am not sure what will be the end result of all these protests, but I am focusing all of my efforts to protect antiquities and restructure the Ministry of Antiquities. This is the first time in Egyptian history that a ministry dedicated to antiquities was created, and we are very proud that the dedication and devotion of the entire Egyptian archaeological community for Egypt’s archaeological heritage was received with such acknowledgment.


http://www.drhawass.com/blog/update-antiquities

Barf! I'm seriously sick of his antics, just leave you Indiana Jones wannabe!

Just like in Tunisia, the inevitable appearance of opportunist rats in Egypt. :fiddle:


Gamaa Islamiya makes first appearance in 20 years

Author: Staff

Leaders of Gamaa Islamiya (the Islamic Group) made their first appearance in 20 years in a Monday meeting at a mosque in Assiut, Upper Egypt.

At the meeting, the group declared the resumption of their preaching activities after the ouster of president Hosni Mubarak, who resigned following two weeks of anti-regime protests that started on 25 January.

The group's most prominent leader, Assem Abdel Maged, declared that Gamaa Islamiya took part in and protected the revolt since its first day.

Gamaa Islamiya is one of Egypt's largest extremist organizations. It orchestrated armed attacks against the ruling regime during the nineties, but then formally renounced violence and reconsidered its excommunication rhetoric.

Abdel Maged said the group is not seeking to settle accounts with anyone, but stressed that the sucessor of the ousted preisdent should impose justice and ensure the group's right to preach and apply the Islamic sharia.

He also urged the group's members to strongly confront thugs, and said the group's consultancy council and leadership in other governorates will undergo a reshuffle.

Abdel Maged reassured Egypt's Copts--whose churches and businesses were targeted by the group during its campaign against the government--that "Islam protects Copts and ensures their rights," adding that "Copts must respect our religion." (:angel1: :angel:)

"We are not seeking power, we were not invited to a dialogue with the deposed regime, we will not pursue anything if we are not asked to," he stressed. (:angel1: :angel:)

Abdel Maged called for the release of jailed group members, and called upon the US to free their spiritual leader, Omar Abdel Rahman, who has been sentenced to life imprisonment in the States.

Source URL (retrieved on 15/02/2011 - 14:58): http://www.almasryalyoum.com/node/319745


Of course we believe you Maged, poor misunderstood terrorists-turned-peaceful lovers of freedom. How come no one tried to stop the meeting and arrest them? Shouldn't the police, or military be actively seeking them out like I would think most countries would have been doing? What the fuck is wrong with you Habib Adly? You arrest bloggers and facebooks activists but give free reign to terrorists? Man, this is too fucked up. :ohno:

Enta za3lan leih? This is freedom, don't worry I highly doubt if they'll turn Egypt into like iran. Everyone should be free to say and do whatever they want but not to effect someone else.

Personally, I am a big fan of freedom.

For example, Amr Moussa is a hypocrite cunt, but tayeb he has a right to be nominated even though he's involved with the NDP regime and never spoke for democracy or freedom before.

Brother Muslimhood(:lol:), okay machi they should be able to participate despite their intentions and past statements (Fakreen "Toz fe masr"?)

I like to draw the line at known terrorist jahadists with links to Al Qaeda, who butchered Egyptians and tourists for 10 years and who's self declared goal is an Islamic Theocracy. Do you get it yet? They're fucking evil :devil:!
Do you honestly expect people to say "Okay, well look, let's just pretend they weren't really terrorists" or "They were naughty boys but they learned their lesson now". Come on, man. :ohno:

Personally, I am a big fan of freedom.

For example, Amr Moussa is a hypocrite cunt, but tayeb he has a right to be nominated even though he's involved with the NDP regime and never spoke for democracy or freedom before.

Brother Muslimhood(:lol:), okay machi they should be able to participate despite their intentions and past statements (Fakreen "Toz fe masr"?)

I like to draw the line at known terrorist jahadists with links to Al Qaeda, who butchered Egyptians and tourists for 10 years and who's self declared goal is an Islamic Theocracy. Do you get it yet? They're fucking evil :devil:!
Do you honestly expect people to say "Okay, well look, let's just pretend they weren't really terrorists" or "They were naughty boys but they learned their lesson now". Come on, man. :ohno:

I believe our army will do the best to limit the accessbility to any political group encouraging Islamism theocracy. So far, i believe Ahmed Zweil will be our next president if real elections are assured.

I don't know what is going to happen for Baradei since the army ignored him because he wasn't living in Egypt.There is too much questioning about who are going to be the candidates. MB will create a political party.

Health of Egypt's Mubarak is deteriorating: paper



CAIRO | Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:28am EST

CAIRO (Reuters) - The health of former Egyptian ruler Hosni Mubarak is deteriorating and he is refusing medical treatment, the Saudi-owned daily Asharq al-Awsat said on Tuesday. The report could not immediately be confirmed.

"What is certain is that his state of health is declining drastically, in addition there is information that he is refusing to receive the required medical treatment," the paper said on its online edition, quoting a former security official affiliated to the Egyptian military high command.

A source who knows the family had said on Monday that Mubarak was not sick.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/15/us-egypt-mubarak-health-idUSTRE71E3LI20110215?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FworldNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+International%29&utm_content=Twitter

our leaders seemed fit and healthy because they don't have nothing to be worried about.:nuts:
compare Mubarak for example to obama (since taking office he got some grey hairs on his head hes looking old

Obama 'Furious' With Hillary's State Department Over Egypt
Fire it up



Is a civil war brewing between the Obama White House and Hillary Clinton's State Department?

A New York Times story published this weekend suggests one may have erupted already.

On Saturday, the Times, quoting numerous White House sources, sought to explain the Obama administration's erratic policy statements during the Egyptian crisis.

The paper reported that Obama was "seething" over State Department officials's statement suggesting that the administration did not want a quick transition of power in Egypt, with President Hosni Mubarak stepping down from his office immediately.
http://nation.foxnews.com/egypt-protests/2011/02/15/obama-furious-hillarys-state-department-over-egypt

I believe our army will do the best to limit the accessbility to any political group encouraging Islamism theocracy. So far, i believe Ahmed Zweil will be our next president if real elections are assured.

I don't know what is going to Baradei since the army is trying to ignore him because he used to not live in Egypt.There is too much questioning about who are going to be the candidates. MB will create a political party.

What makes you think Zewail would even stand for elections? I thought he said he wasn't interested. Baradei also said the same....so who does that leave us with? I really, really, really don't want Amr Moussa be our president...damn it. :wallbash:

Oh, right I forgot Ayman Nour. There's still hope :)

What makes you think Zewail would even stand for elections? I thought he said he wasn't interested. Baradei also said the same....so who does that leave us with? I really, really, really don't want Amr Moussa be our president...damn it. :wallbash:

Oh, right I forgot Ayman Nour. There's still hope :)

He said it on a tv night show in Egypt that if Democracy is assured. He will think about it seriously. Everyone loves him in Egypt and so far, he's the smartest one of all candidates.

Everyone loves him in Egypt and so far, he's the smartest one of all candidates.

Amr Moussa or Zewail? Ana faqat el amal fe heqayet El Baradei, no one likes him in Egypt.

Amr Moussa or Zewail? Ana faqat el amal fe heqayet El Baradei, no one likes him in Egypt.

I'm talking about Zweil. And for Baradei, makes me sad because people are against him for living abroad instead of living in Egypt.

I know, it's pretty stupid. I've lived abroad all my life but that doesn't make me less Egyptian. :(

I know, it's pretty stupid. I've lived abroad all my life but that doesn't make me less Egyptian. :(

Untrue. Maybe if Baradei decided to live In Egypt for 8 years, he may have access to politic in Egypt. IMO, i believe that if we live in Egypt for several years, we will be concidered as real egyptians. Same as people immigrating in occidental cities... We are considered as real Canadian, Swedish civilians after passing few years in the country.

I'm expecting to live in Egypt after my studies. My first years are going to be hard since i used to live in Canada since i'm born... After several years, i will be considered as a real egyptian. Hopefully will be working as economist in a egyptian institute. :banana:

Same, I'm moving to Alexandria after I finish univeristy, isA. I was born in Sweden and I've lived here all my life so the first few years might be a little hard.

By the way, I'm going to start studying economics/business/company economics next year. Lol, we might end up working at the same place. :lol:

Same, I'm moving to Alexandria after I finish univeristy, isA. I was born in Sweden and I've lived here all my life so the first few years might be a little hard.

By the way, I'm going to start studying economics/business/company economics next year. Lol, we might end up working at the same place. :lol:


I hope and i'd be happy if we met eachother. I'm looking forward to live in Cairo. My favorite city in the world. I passed by New York, London and many other cities but i don't know. Cairo is my favorite place.
I'm looking more to to study the phenomen of the economy . I won't be specialized in business. My second dream would be to study Egyptian history.

I hope and i'd be happy if we met eachother. I'm looking forward to live in Cairo. My favorite city in the world. I passed by New York, London and many other cities but i don't know. Cairo is my favorite place.
I'm looking more to to study the phenomen of the economy . I won't be specialized in business. My second dream would be to study Egyptian history.

Cairo is a charmy city and I'm sure that it will become the Paris of Africa when the economy improves. :)

It would be awesome if all the Egyptians on this forum could meet in Egypt, just imagine how fun that would be.

Cairo is a charmy city and I'm sure that it will become the Paris of Africa when the economy improves. :)

It would be awesome if all the Egyptians on this forum could meet in Egypt, just imagine how fun that would be.

Hell yeah! Imagine with all the skycrapers that is going to be built! :banana:

Hell yeah! Imagine with all the skycrapers that is going to be built! :banana:

The first skyscraper is already being built, the Nile Tower (unless it was cancelled). :banana: :banana: :banana:

Found this on another thread that left me speechless :nuts:

http://gdb.rferl.org/61861EF8-4E83-499A-8A05-A38747ADC756_w527_s.jpg

Mubarak enjoying a birdeye view in Baku, CentralAsia Home of few nasty dictators.

All along the southern tier of the former Soviet Union, people have watched with rapt attention as events in Egypt have unfolded.

In countries like Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan, people are now looking at their own autocratic leaders -- most already in power for decades -- and wondering if they might fall to the same fate as Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, whose 30-year rule is very likely to end as a result of the massive public uprising, and where resentment over poverty, corruption, and repressive rule mirror many of the ills in the southern ex-Soviet republics.

Ali Karimli, the head of the opposition Azerbaijan Popular Front Party, says the recent wave of public protests across Tunisia, Yemen, and Egypt are eye-opening for many people who believed the Arab world would be the last place to witness people-power movements forcing concessions from their leaders.

He says Aliyev -- who has erected a statue of Mubarak in Baku and nurtured close ties with a number of Arab leaders -- should take note:

"All of Azerbaijan saw how comfortable Ilham Aliyev felt when he met with Arab dictators. He established good contacts with them, and he saw these countries as a model for Azerbaijan,” Karimli said. “Now everybody who looked to those countries as a model is probably disappointed. Looking at these developments, you can conclude that global democracy-building can now speed up, so that there will be no asylum country for dictators."

Did Nazarbaev Learn A Lesson?

(from Feb 3, 2011)

The first skyscraper is already being built, the Nile Tower (unless it was cancelled). :banana: :banana: :banana:

Yeah but hopefully we will kick all the ghetto's surrounding Cairo and we build highrise buildings 3ashn nostor el fo2ara :banana:

On twitter alot of Unconfirmed sources says that Hosny Mobarak died.... I don't know what to think ... :(

Ragel da sa3ban 3alaya... Kan momken yetla3 mn 2a3zam bab...

Yeah but hopefully we will kick all the ghetto's surrounding Cairo and we build highrise buildings 3ashn nostor el fo2ara :banana:

That should be the first priority of the new government, I don't want downtown Cairo to look like a ghetto. They need to modernize the city. :)

That should be the first priority of the new government, I don't want downtown Cairo to look like a ghetto. They need to modernize the city. :)

With the localisation of 500 billion EGP... We must bump invest it in the economy by building new infrastructures. But there are many issues that holds the current government to act. People are putting pressure on the government . People must cooperate, if they are capable to wait 30 years... Why can't they wait for 6 months?

Our economy is struggling and we must stay united for a better future

With the localisation of 500 billion EGP... We must bump invest it in the economy by building new infrastructures. But there are many issues that holds the current government to act. People are putting pressure on the government . People must cooperate, if they are capable to wait 30 years... Why can't they wait for 6 months?

Our economy is struggling and we must stay united for a better future

500 billion EGP + 70 billion USD could turn Cairo and Alexandria to Tokyo and New York. I really hope that they can return all the money.

500 billion EGP + 70 billion USD could turn Cairo and Alexandria to Tokyo and New York. I really hope that they can return all the money.

:banana:

500 billion invested in Infrastructure :eek2:

Is Mubarak really dead? For some reason I feel sorry for him, he's a good person but a terrible president.

Is Mubarak really dead? For some reason I feel sorry for him, he's a good person but a terrible president.

Many people on twitter were posting it... :dunno:

Divine punishment for all the people that died.

Divine punishment for all the people that died.

Why does he deserve to die in dignity and peace???? Lehhhhhhh

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I'd rather die in dignity than being humiliated and killed! :(

Why does he deserve to die in dignity and peace???? Lehhhhhhh

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I'd rather die in dignity than being humiliated and killed! :(

Where's the dignity? His people threw him out and know he has to live undercover.

Report: Hosni Mubarak is in Israel
Published today 19:14
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JERUSALEM (Ma'an) -- Ousted Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak is in a luxury hotel in the Israeli city of Eilat, the Israel-based news site Al-Arab reported Tuesday.

Locals said there was a huge presence of Israeli security forces surrounding the hotel, and airplanes were hovering above monitoring activity in the area, the Arabic-language report said.

A hotel employee revealed that Mubarak was a guest at the hotel, according to the news site.

The hotel declined to comment.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=360317

Of all the countries in the world he went to Israel. This is the first time he goes to Israel since he became president.

Gotta love all these rumours. He is probably in Sharm, enjoying his billions, happy he is finally out of office, investing billions into foreign projects with Gamal, and in good health. :)

Gotta love all these rumours. He is probably in Sharm, enjoying his billions, happy he is finally out of office, investing billions into foreign projects with Gamal, and in good health. :)

Mobarak is definetly in a Coma... He refuse to leave Egypt. He wants to live in Egypt and will die in his soil. May god forgive him.

Mobarak is definetly in a Coma... He refuse to leave Egypt. He wants to live in Egypt and will die in his soil. May god forgive him.

Well I'm not too sure about him "definitely" being in a coma. All we hear are rumours, no one has confirmed.

Unless his dead body will be presented on TV and at least three independent DNA analysing laboratories will confirm it, it will remain just rumour to me :sleepy:
His death would be good solution to the dilemma how to threat him and whether to prosecute him, and all this costly many years long cases, but when he dies, he will take many important informations with him (about secret operations, chain of decisions, fate of some missing people and where's the money gone) :dunno:

Report: Hosni Mubarak is in Israel
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http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=360317If this information revealed to be true, AlJazeera would be right about what they some 2 weeks ago (I mean about UAE preventing his attempt to emigrate there and about Israelis preparing to welcome him in T-A) :nuts:

Calls to freeze billions of deposed Hosni Mubarak's UK assets
by Susie Boniface, Sunday Mirror 13/02/2011

David Cameron was last night under pressure to freeze £5billion of assets salted away in the UK by deposed Egyptian tyrant Hosni Mubarak. Mubarak, his son Gamal and their extended family are feared to have amassed a fortune of £43.5billion. The Swiss government announced on Friday night it had frozen all cash secreted there by Mubarak and his inner circle, leading to demands that PM Mr Cameron do the same. Former Labour Foreign Office minister Mark Malloch Brown *accused the Government of “not being loud enough in its condemnation” of Mubarak.

Asked if he thought Britain should freeze all assets linked to the corrupt regime, he said: “Absolutely.” Mub*arak’s son Gamal was *reported to have been partying at London nightclub Tramp last weekend where a £16,000 champagne bill was said to have been run up.

His father is at his winter palace in Sharm el-Sheikh. While millions of Egyptians live in abject poverty, the feared Mubarak clan squirrelled away billions *derived from corrupt business deals and seized assets of former presidents and the monarchy. There are concerns that the family will flee to London where they own a multi-million pound six-storey mansion in exclusive Belgravia.

Any delay in freezing Mubarak family assets in the UK could make it easier for them to start moving their cash overseas. Experts believe £5billion may be administered through London’s fin*ancial centres. The family property portfolio, includes dozens of homes and hotels around the world, is worth an estimated £10.5billion. Last night a spokesman for Foreign Office said it would not “speculate about freezing assets”.

http://www.mirror.co.../#ixzz1DpkjrnfL

:uh: oh la la! What do we say? C'est la vie!

He has no obligation any more to continue "family business" in Egypt now, so he's free, still young (a lot younger than Silvio "Bunga Bunga" Berlusconi) and rich. What would you do? :D

The latest internet meme in Egypt

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My favorite part is from 1:25 onwards :rofl:

من يقف وراءعمر سليمان؟

اللغز الذى حير الشعب المصرى والعالم بعد 25 يناير حتى الأن

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d33cea6da8&view=att&th=12e2c9fb396f15c6&attid=0.1.1&disp=emb&zw

الأسم : الراجل اللى واقف ورا عمر سليمان
الوظيفة : الوقوف ورا عمر سليمان
محل الأقامة : ورا عمر سليمان
رجل هز عرش الفيس بوك فى مصر
يا جماعة احنا نعمل وقفة ونروح ميدان التحرير تانى ونعمل مظاهرات من جديد عشان مش هينفع كدا لازم نعرف مين الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان ده وشعارنا هيبقى الشعب يريد معرفة الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان
أحمد حلمى : أحلم بتجسيد شخصية الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان
في السنة اللي رفضنا فيها فيلم " بــات مــان " ,, عمــلنا فيها فيلم " الـراجل اللـي واقـف ورا عـمـر سـلـيـمـان"
مـــصـــر .. أفلام عربي ،، أم الأجنبي
التلفزيون المصري ينفي وجود أي شخص وراء عمر سليمان
الجمعة الجية كلنا في ميدان التحرير تبقى جمعة الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
بيان رقم 6 من القوات المسلحة :
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم .... محدش له دعوة بالراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان .. و الله الموفق
لو لم أكن مصرياً.. لوددت أن أكون الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان..
نتنياهو يعرب عن امله ان يقف ورا الراجل اللي واقف وراء عمر سليمان
مصادر في امن الدولة : الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان قفش.. و حلف ما هيقف ورا حد تاني
عاجل : هيلارى كلينتون تطالب الراجل اللى واقف عمر سليمان بضبط النفس
واخيرا
أمريكا عندها بات مان و سوبرمان لكن إحنا عندنا الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
مدرس يسأل تلميذ : نفسك تبقى ايه لما تكبر ؟ .. التلميذ : الراجل الي ورا عمر سليمان
بيان عاجل صرح مصدر مسئول ان الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان هو صاحب الميك وكان مستنيه يخلص علشان يلم العده ويمشي
باراك أوباما : يـجب أن نربي أبـناءنا ليصبحوا كالرجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
رئيس وزاراء ايطاليا : لا جديد في مصر فقد وقف رجل ورا عمر سليمان كالعاده
ستولتنبرج رئيس وزراء النرويج : اليوم كلنا الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
هاينز فيشر رئيس النمسا : شعب مصر أعظم شعوب الأرض و الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان يستحق جائزة نوبل في الغموض
CNN : لأول مرة نرى شع...با يقوم بثورة ثم يبقى حتى الفجر يتكلم عن الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان.
هيفاء وهبي تغير كلمات أغنيتها إلى
رجب :حوش الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان عني
الشعب يريد معرفة الرجل اللي ورا عمر سليماااااااااااااااان
خليك راجل....... واقف ورا عمر سليمان
اذا الشعب يوما اراد الحياة ..
فلابد ان يستجيب الراجل اللى واقف ورا عمر سليمان ...
كفاية تهريج بقى وليكن شعاركم في المرحلة القادمة
الله
الوطن
الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان
عاجل : الراجل الي ورا عمر سليمان يطالب بعودة النظام عشان مش لاقي حد يوقف وراه
الوقفات الرسمية هذا العام ثلالث وقفات:
وقفة عيد الفطر
وقفة عيد الأضحي
وقفة الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان
نجيب سوايرس يخصص مليون جنيه لمن يدلى على اسم الراجل الي ورا عمر سليمان ؟
أنباء غير مؤكدة: جلوس الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان
أريد عريساً : س ص ع 35 عام مطلقة بدون أولاد صيدلانية خمرية ملفوفة القوام تمتلك شقة بمسكن الأسرة و صيدلية
مواصفات العريس : 35 الى 40 عام مهندس - عضو هيئة قضائية - عضو هيئة تدريس - لا يدخن - يشبه الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان
قد صرح مصدر مسؤول في البيت الابيض انه اذا لم يتم الكشف عن هوية الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان فسيتم تطبيق حصار اقتصادي على مصر وذلك لتوجس البيت الابيض من انه قد يكون نفس الراجل اللي كان واقف ورا صدام حسين
ويكيليكس تكشف وثائق هامة عن ثروة الراجل الى ورا عمر سليمان.....
عاجل:زاهى حواس يعلن سرقة اربع تماثيل للراجل اللى وافق ورا عمر سليمان من المتحف المصرى
وتوالت المفاجآت
في مفاجائه من العيار الثقيل : الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان يعترف للنائب العام بأنه هو فعلا الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
فى حين أعلنت الموساد أن المخابرات المصريه ما زلت تتبع أساليبها الشيط
سي ان ان : ترشيح الرجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان لجائزه نوبل للسلام .. حيث أنه أخرج العالم العربى من حالة الأكتئاب التى أصابتهم إزاء الأحداث الأخيره و حولها إلى حاله ضحك هيستيرى .. و أدمن صفحه الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان وامام هذا الكم من الاشاعات بادرت الحكومه المصرية إلى التدخل
الحكومة تعلن عن خط ساخن للإبلاغ عن اي معلومة تفيد في معرفة مين الراجل اللي ورا عمر سلبمان
وزير الصحه : أنا قلق من أنتشار مرض فوبيا “الرجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان” حيث أصبح الشعب خائفاً و ينظر خلفه أما ا
وتوالت التصريحات من جميع الدول
عاجل : المتظاهرون في إيران و الجزائر يطالبون بقدوم الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان من أجل ضمان رحيل النظام
القذافى يصرح : لن يظهر خلفى رجل واحد أبداً .. حيث أن ليبيا مختلفه عن تونس و مصر لأنها تتبع النظام الجماهيرى
واخيرا تكلم الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
الرجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان يبحث عن عمل بعد رحيل عمر سليمان و يعرض مؤهلاته :
إمكانيه الوقوف المتواصل 24 ساعه يومياً
إطلاق نظرات ناريه على أعداء الشخص المراد حمايته
والله أحنا شعب ذى العسل

:hilarious

Hosni Mubarak’s Death Could Come At Any Time: Arab News Report
February 16, 2011
By LBG1
Bush memoir: Mubarak's fault U.S. invaded Iraq


Will Hosni Mubarak die before he writes his memoir? A memoir which might have contradicted George W. Bush’s memoir Decision Points and Bush’s claim, Mubarak informed Bush there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. WMD’s, the reason Americans and the world were given for launching the invasion of Iraq. Hosni Mubarak, Bush’s Iraq War ‘fall guy’.

According to the Arabic international daily Asharq Alawsat ‘Hosni Mubarak’s death could come at any time’.

Cairo, Asharq Al-Awsat –After Egyptian Ambassador to the US Sameh Shoukry publicly acknowledged that former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak is in bad health, a former security official affiliated to the Egyptian military high command told Asharq Al-Awsat that the announcement of Hosni Mubarak’s death could come at any time. The former security official said “what is certain is that his state of health is declining drastically, in addition [to this] there is information that he is refusing to receive the required medical treatment.”

‘The source also revealed that there had been attempts to convince Mubarak to travel abroad for medical treatment, most probably to German where he previously underwent treatment to remove a gallbladder last year. However the former security official clarified to Asharq Al-Awsat that “Mubarak is refusing this…in fact, he has asked those around him to allow him to die in his country, and I believe this is just a matter of time” adding “it is unfortunate that this is how it will end.”

Contrary to reports that Mubarak is working on a memoir, the former Egyptian official told Asharq Al-Awsat that “this is untrue…Mubarak’s health is not up to this, he is only regains consciousness rarely, spending most of his time in a comatose state.”

GlobalSecurity.org published a report on Bush’s memoir and Bush’s claim about the role Hosni Mubarak allegedly played in the invasion of Iraq.

GlobalSecurity.org:

Former U.S. President George W. Bush says Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak informed the U.S. that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He also spoke of other people who had influence on his decision to invade Iraq.

The revelation comes in Bush’s memoirs, Decision Points, in which he highlighted mistakes made during the Iraq war campaign, and the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in the country.

“President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt had told [general] Tommy Franks that Iraq had biological weapons and was certain to use them on our troops,” Bush revealed in his newly-released book.

The former president said Mubarak “refused to make the allegation in public for fear of inciting the Arab street.”

Bush explained that the “intelligence from a Middle Eastern leader who knew [former Iraqi president] Saddam [Hussein] well had an impact on my thinking.”

“Just as there were risks to actions, there were risks to inaction as well,” he wrote in Decision Points.

About that Mubarak memoir, two weeks after George W. Bush’s memoir Decision Points hit the bookshelves on November 9th, a statement was released by Mubarak spokesman Suleiman Iwad, a statement in which Mubarak denied he told Bush Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

By November, 2010, Bush was a private citizen while Mubarak was still in power. Mubarak immediately denied Bush’s claim. One month later protests against Mubarak began in Cairo’s Tahrir Square.

The latest internet meme in Egypt

NHJBtt5qn5s&feature=player_embedded#at=86

My favorite part is from 1:25 onwards :rofl:

من يقف وراءعمر سليمان؟

اللغز الذى حير الشعب المصرى والعالم بعد 25 يناير حتى الأن

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d33cea6da8&view=att&th=12e2c9fb396f15c6&attid=0.1.1&disp=emb&zw

الأسم : الراجل اللى واقف ورا عمر سليمان
الوظيفة : الوقوف ورا عمر سليمان
محل الأقامة : ورا عمر سليمان
رجل هز عرش الفيس بوك فى مصر
يا جماعة احنا نعمل وقفة ونروح ميدان التحرير تانى ونعمل مظاهرات من جديد عشان مش هينفع كدا لازم نعرف مين الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان ده وشعارنا هيبقى الشعب يريد معرفة الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان
أحمد حلمى : أحلم بتجسيد شخصية الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان
في السنة اللي رفضنا فيها فيلم " بــات مــان " ,, عمــلنا فيها فيلم " الـراجل اللـي واقـف ورا عـمـر سـلـيـمـان"
مـــصـــر .. أفلام عربي ،، أم الأجنبي
التلفزيون المصري ينفي وجود أي شخص وراء عمر سليمان
الجمعة الجية كلنا في ميدان التحرير تبقى جمعة الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
بيان رقم 6 من القوات المسلحة :
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم .... محدش له دعوة بالراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان .. و الله الموفق
لو لم أكن مصرياً.. لوددت أن أكون الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان..
نتنياهو يعرب عن امله ان يقف ورا الراجل اللي واقف وراء عمر سليمان
مصادر في امن الدولة : الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان قفش.. و حلف ما هيقف ورا حد تاني
عاجل : هيلارى كلينتون تطالب الراجل اللى واقف عمر سليمان بضبط النفس
واخيرا
أمريكا عندها بات مان و سوبرمان لكن إحنا عندنا الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
مدرس يسأل تلميذ : نفسك تبقى ايه لما تكبر ؟ .. التلميذ : الراجل الي ورا عمر سليمان
بيان عاجل صرح مصدر مسئول ان الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان هو صاحب الميك وكان مستنيه يخلص علشان يلم العده ويمشي
باراك أوباما : يـجب أن نربي أبـناءنا ليصبحوا كالرجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
رئيس وزاراء ايطاليا : لا جديد في مصر فقد وقف رجل ورا عمر سليمان كالعاده
ستولتنبرج رئيس وزراء النرويج : اليوم كلنا الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
هاينز فيشر رئيس النمسا : شعب مصر أعظم شعوب الأرض و الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان يستحق جائزة نوبل في الغموض
CNN : لأول مرة نرى شع...با يقوم بثورة ثم يبقى حتى الفجر يتكلم عن الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان.
هيفاء وهبي تغير كلمات أغنيتها إلى
رجب :حوش الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان عني
الشعب يريد معرفة الرجل اللي ورا عمر سليماااااااااااااااان
خليك راجل....... واقف ورا عمر سليمان
اذا الشعب يوما اراد الحياة ..
فلابد ان يستجيب الراجل اللى واقف ورا عمر سليمان ...
كفاية تهريج بقى وليكن شعاركم في المرحلة القادمة
الله
الوطن
الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان
عاجل : الراجل الي ورا عمر سليمان يطالب بعودة النظام عشان مش لاقي حد يوقف وراه
الوقفات الرسمية هذا العام ثلالث وقفات:
وقفة عيد الفطر
وقفة عيد الأضحي
وقفة الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان
نجيب سوايرس يخصص مليون جنيه لمن يدلى على اسم الراجل الي ورا عمر سليمان ؟
أنباء غير مؤكدة: جلوس الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان
أريد عريساً : س ص ع 35 عام مطلقة بدون أولاد صيدلانية خمرية ملفوفة القوام تمتلك شقة بمسكن الأسرة و صيدلية
مواصفات العريس : 35 الى 40 عام مهندس - عضو هيئة قضائية - عضو هيئة تدريس - لا يدخن - يشبه الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان
قد صرح مصدر مسؤول في البيت الابيض انه اذا لم يتم الكشف عن هوية الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان فسيتم تطبيق حصار اقتصادي على مصر وذلك لتوجس البيت الابيض من انه قد يكون نفس الراجل اللي كان واقف ورا صدام حسين
ويكيليكس تكشف وثائق هامة عن ثروة الراجل الى ورا عمر سليمان.....
عاجل:زاهى حواس يعلن سرقة اربع تماثيل للراجل اللى وافق ورا عمر سليمان من المتحف المصرى
وتوالت المفاجآت
في مفاجائه من العيار الثقيل : الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان يعترف للنائب العام بأنه هو فعلا الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
فى حين أعلنت الموساد أن المخابرات المصريه ما زلت تتبع أساليبها الشيط
سي ان ان : ترشيح الرجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان لجائزه نوبل للسلام .. حيث أنه أخرج العالم العربى من حالة الأكتئاب التى أصابتهم إزاء الأحداث الأخيره و حولها إلى حاله ضحك هيستيرى .. و أدمن صفحه الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان وامام هذا الكم من الاشاعات بادرت الحكومه المصرية إلى التدخل
الحكومة تعلن عن خط ساخن للإبلاغ عن اي معلومة تفيد في معرفة مين الراجل اللي ورا عمر سلبمان
وزير الصحه : أنا قلق من أنتشار مرض فوبيا “الرجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان” حيث أصبح الشعب خائفاً و ينظر خلفه أما ا
وتوالت التصريحات من جميع الدول
عاجل : المتظاهرون في إيران و الجزائر يطالبون بقدوم الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان من أجل ضمان رحيل النظام
القذافى يصرح : لن يظهر خلفى رجل واحد أبداً .. حيث أن ليبيا مختلفه عن تونس و مصر لأنها تتبع النظام الجماهيرى
واخيرا تكلم الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
الرجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان يبحث عن عمل بعد رحيل عمر سليمان و يعرض مؤهلاته :
إمكانيه الوقوف المتواصل 24 ساعه يومياً
إطلاق نظرات ناريه على أعداء الشخص المراد حمايته
والله أحنا شعب ذى العسل

:hilarious

EPIC! what a tragedy!

The latest internet meme in Egypt

NHJBtt5qn5s&feature=player_embedded#at=86

My favorite part is from 1:25 onwards :rofl:

من يقف وراءعمر سليمان؟

اللغز الذى حير الشعب المصرى والعالم بعد 25 يناير حتى الأن

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d33cea6da8&view=att&th=12e2c9fb396f15c6&attid=0.1.1&disp=emb&zw

الأسم : الراجل اللى واقف ورا عمر سليمان
الوظيفة : الوقوف ورا عمر سليمان
محل الأقامة : ورا عمر سليمان
رجل هز عرش الفيس بوك فى مصر
يا جماعة احنا نعمل وقفة ونروح ميدان التحرير تانى ونعمل مظاهرات من جديد عشان مش هينفع كدا لازم نعرف مين الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان ده وشعارنا هيبقى الشعب يريد معرفة الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان
أحمد حلمى : أحلم بتجسيد شخصية الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان
في السنة اللي رفضنا فيها فيلم " بــات مــان " ,, عمــلنا فيها فيلم " الـراجل اللـي واقـف ورا عـمـر سـلـيـمـان"
مـــصـــر .. أفلام عربي ،، أم الأجنبي
التلفزيون المصري ينفي وجود أي شخص وراء عمر سليمان
الجمعة الجية كلنا في ميدان التحرير تبقى جمعة الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
بيان رقم 6 من القوات المسلحة :
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم .... محدش له دعوة بالراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان .. و الله الموفق
لو لم أكن مصرياً.. لوددت أن أكون الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان..
نتنياهو يعرب عن امله ان يقف ورا الراجل اللي واقف وراء عمر سليمان
مصادر في امن الدولة : الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان قفش.. و حلف ما هيقف ورا حد تاني
عاجل : هيلارى كلينتون تطالب الراجل اللى واقف عمر سليمان بضبط النفس
واخيرا
أمريكا عندها بات مان و سوبرمان لكن إحنا عندنا الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
مدرس يسأل تلميذ : نفسك تبقى ايه لما تكبر ؟ .. التلميذ : الراجل الي ورا عمر سليمان
بيان عاجل صرح مصدر مسئول ان الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان هو صاحب الميك وكان مستنيه يخلص علشان يلم العده ويمشي
باراك أوباما : يـجب أن نربي أبـناءنا ليصبحوا كالرجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
رئيس وزاراء ايطاليا : لا جديد في مصر فقد وقف رجل ورا عمر سليمان كالعاده
ستولتنبرج رئيس وزراء النرويج : اليوم كلنا الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
هاينز فيشر رئيس النمسا : شعب مصر أعظم شعوب الأرض و الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان يستحق جائزة نوبل في الغموض
CNN : لأول مرة نرى شع...با يقوم بثورة ثم يبقى حتى الفجر يتكلم عن الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان.
هيفاء وهبي تغير كلمات أغنيتها إلى
رجب :حوش الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان عني
الشعب يريد معرفة الرجل اللي ورا عمر سليماااااااااااااااان
خليك راجل....... واقف ورا عمر سليمان
اذا الشعب يوما اراد الحياة ..
فلابد ان يستجيب الراجل اللى واقف ورا عمر سليمان ...
كفاية تهريج بقى وليكن شعاركم في المرحلة القادمة
الله
الوطن
الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان
عاجل : الراجل الي ورا عمر سليمان يطالب بعودة النظام عشان مش لاقي حد يوقف وراه
الوقفات الرسمية هذا العام ثلالث وقفات:
وقفة عيد الفطر
وقفة عيد الأضحي
وقفة الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان
نجيب سوايرس يخصص مليون جنيه لمن يدلى على اسم الراجل الي ورا عمر سليمان ؟
أنباء غير مؤكدة: جلوس الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان
أريد عريساً : س ص ع 35 عام مطلقة بدون أولاد صيدلانية خمرية ملفوفة القوام تمتلك شقة بمسكن الأسرة و صيدلية
مواصفات العريس : 35 الى 40 عام مهندس - عضو هيئة قضائية - عضو هيئة تدريس - لا يدخن - يشبه الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان
قد صرح مصدر مسؤول في البيت الابيض انه اذا لم يتم الكشف عن هوية الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان فسيتم تطبيق حصار اقتصادي على مصر وذلك لتوجس البيت الابيض من انه قد يكون نفس الراجل اللي كان واقف ورا صدام حسين
ويكيليكس تكشف وثائق هامة عن ثروة الراجل الى ورا عمر سليمان.....
عاجل:زاهى حواس يعلن سرقة اربع تماثيل للراجل اللى وافق ورا عمر سليمان من المتحف المصرى
وتوالت المفاجآت
في مفاجائه من العيار الثقيل : الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان يعترف للنائب العام بأنه هو فعلا الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
فى حين أعلنت الموساد أن المخابرات المصريه ما زلت تتبع أساليبها الشيط
سي ان ان : ترشيح الرجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان لجائزه نوبل للسلام .. حيث أنه أخرج العالم العربى من حالة الأكتئاب التى أصابتهم إزاء الأحداث الأخيره و حولها إلى حاله ضحك هيستيرى .. و أدمن صفحه الراجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان وامام هذا الكم من الاشاعات بادرت الحكومه المصرية إلى التدخل
الحكومة تعلن عن خط ساخن للإبلاغ عن اي معلومة تفيد في معرفة مين الراجل اللي ورا عمر سلبمان
وزير الصحه : أنا قلق من أنتشار مرض فوبيا “الرجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان” حيث أصبح الشعب خائفاً و ينظر خلفه أما ا
وتوالت التصريحات من جميع الدول
عاجل : المتظاهرون في إيران و الجزائر يطالبون بقدوم الراجل اللي واقف ورا عمر سليمان من أجل ضمان رحيل النظام
القذافى يصرح : لن يظهر خلفى رجل واحد أبداً .. حيث أن ليبيا مختلفه عن تونس و مصر لأنها تتبع النظام الجماهيرى
واخيرا تكلم الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان
الرجل اللى ورا عمر سليمان يبحث عن عمل بعد رحيل عمر سليمان و يعرض مؤهلاته :
إمكانيه الوقوف المتواصل 24 ساعه يومياً
إطلاق نظرات ناريه على أعداء الشخص المراد حمايته
والله أحنا شعب ذى العسل

:hilarious

:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

The kids of the guy standing behind Omar Suleiman said on Facebook that they curse everyone that makes fun of their dad. I agree with them, I wouldn't like people to make fun of my dad but I still want to know why he made that face. :lol:

how do you know if he's a dad? by2olek el banat 3awza tegawezo :lol:

how do you know if he's a dad? by2olek el banat 3awza tegawezo :lol:

They made a group, my mom told me I didn't see it myself.

They made a group, my mom told me I didn't see it myself.

ah, but the thing is no one knows him or anything about him so how did they know he's a dad?

Because his kids made a group, they claimed to be his kids and they told people to stop making fun of him. I totally understand that. :P

ahh kay, though it's not verified. they only claimed :)

But still, I'm sure the guy has a family and they must be outraged.

Mubarak given up, wants to die in Sharm, says Saudi official
Reuters, Wednesday 16 Feb 2011
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Egypt's ousted president has given up and wants to die in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh where he has been living since a popular uprising ended his rule, a Saudi official said on Wednesday.

Hosni Mubarak, 82, has suffered from health problems in recent years and travelled to Germany for gall bladder surgery in March last year. Reports of a further decline have increased since he stepped down on Friday after three decades in power.

An official in Saudi Arabia said the kingdom had offered to host Mubarak but he was determined to see out his days in Egypt. Official confirmation could not immediately be obtained from the Saudi government.

"He is not dead but is not doing well at all and refuses to leave. Basically, he has given up and wants to die in Sharm," said the Saudi official, who asked not to be named.

Mubarak vowed to die in Egypt when he addressed the country's 80 million people last week while still clinging to power.

A source with links to the Mubarak family said on Tuesday that the former president was "fine," and had been taking telephone calls.

Mubarak spent more and more time at his residence in Sharm el-Sheikh near the end of his time as leader, retreating to the clean air and sea breeze to recover from ailments.

Across the sea, visitors can see the shores of Saudi Arabia, where Tunisian President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali fled after he was toppled last month.

The Tunisian experience inspired the Egyptian protest movement that forced Mubarak's resignation.

Mubarak also received world leaders in the city at the tip of the Sinai peninsula and it became a stage for international summits and years of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.

Many of those disillusioned with Mubarak's heavy-handed rule point to his fondness for Sharm el-Sheikh as a sign of his estrangement from the everyday problems that plague ordinary Egyptians.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/5754.aspx

Mubarak ordered Tiananmen-style massacre of demonstrators, Army refused
by Gaius Publius on 2/15/2011 06:15:00 PM

Buried in this Robert Fisk report for The Independent is a startling account of the Egyptian army refusing to move with tanks against the Tahrir Square protesters on January 30. If this is true, it must be the defining moment in the history of the movement that toppled Hosni Mubarak's 30-year reign. My emphasis below:

Last night [Feb 10], a military officer guarding the tens of thousands celebrating in Cairo threw down his rifle and joined the demonstrators, yet another sign of the ordinary Egyptian soldier's growing sympathy for the democracy demonstrators. We had witnessed many similar sentiments from the army over the past two weeks. But the critical moment came on the evening of 30 January when, it is now clear, Mubarak ordered the Egyptian Third Army to crush the demonstrators in Tahrir Square with their tanks after flying F-16 fighter bombers at low level over the protesters.

Many of the senior tank commanders could be seen tearing off their headsets – over which they had received the fatal orders – to use their mobile phones. They were, it now transpires, calling their own military families for advice. Fathers who had spent their lives serving the Egyptian army told their sons to disobey, that they must never kill their own people.

Thus when General Hassan al-Rawani told the massive crowds yesterday evening that "everything you want will be realised – all your demands will be met", the people cried back: "The army and the people stand together – the army and the people are united. The army and the people belong to one hand."

Robert Fisk is a seasoned journalist and Middle East expert with a long history. Though this event has not been widely reported (and Fisk does not give his source), I did find some corroboration, for example here. And Fisk's claim is repeated here, with Fisk cited as the source. Given his history (Fisk is one of the few journalists to have interviewed Osama bin Laden three times), it's unlikely he's wrong.

http://www.americablog.com/2011/02/mubarak-ordered-tiananmen-style.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Americablog+%28AMERICAblog%29


Ya ebn el kalb Ya Mobarak

اخر الاخبار!

مصرع عميل سي اي اه في محاولة معرفة الراجل اللى واقف وراء عمر سليمان

صراع بين الكي جي بي و الموساد لمعرفة حقيقة الراجل اللى واقف وراء عمر سليمان

هبوط حاد لمؤشر داو جونز للبورصة الامريكية اثناء البدء في البحث عن الراجل اللى واقف وراء عمر سليمان

اخر الاخبار!

مصرع عميل سي اي اه في محاولة معرفة الراجل اللى واقف وراء عمر سليمان

صراع بين الكي جي بي و الموساد لمعرفة حقيقة الراجل اللى واقف وراء عمر سليمان

هبوط حاد لمؤشر داو جونز للبورصة الامريكية اثناء البدء في البحث عن الراجل اللى واقف وراء عمر سليمان

Tell me what it says.... I'm still learning arabic.. Started yesterday and i'm only able to read the first sentence....:banana:

Tell me what it says.... I'm still learning arabic.. Started yesterday and i'm only able to read the first sentence....:banana:

:uh: you are not serious are you? you can't read arabic? :cripes:

C'est impossible!

edit: one sec I'll translate.

:uh: you are not serious are you? you can't read arabic? :cripes:

C'est impossible!

edit: one sec I'll translate.

I was able but then stopped :(
Now i'm catching back... I know all the alphabets but i'm trying to connect them :cry:

I was able but then stopped :(
Now i'm catching back... I know all the alphabets but i'm trying to connect them :cry:

hehe, wont take you much time ;) BTW it wont be as good as if I translated them so if you know anyone who can read arabic :D

Otherwise,

http://translate.google.co.uk/?hl=&ie=UTF-8&text=&sl=ar&tl=ar#

put the text and make sure it arabic in both side. then you have the feature to listen to the text ;)

bones!

انباء عن اقدام شريهان علي عمل فوازير رمضان عن الراجل اللى واقف وراء عمر سليمان

It's not hard once you know how to pronounce all the letters and harakat.

It's not hard once you know how to pronounce all the letters and harakat.

Its not that hard but i need to get more familiar with the alphabets. Do you read the arabic ya azmat? Wala fashel zaye :D

Hehe, I'm learning french and swedish currently. If you want to create a new thread in the skyahwa about languages we can help each others :D

Hehe, I'm learning french and swedish currently. If you want to create a new thread in the skyahwa about languages we can help each others :D

Si tu veux apprendre le français, je suis là pour t'aider :D

:hug: it would be easy to open a language thread and help each other :D

Hehe, I'm learning french and swedish currently. If you want to create a new thread in the skyahwa about languages we can help each others :D

Jag lär dig gärna svenska min gode vän. Man kan nästan säga att det är en blandning mellan tyska och engelska. Engelsk och svensk grammatik är nästan identisk.

Al-Azhar head warns against amending Article II of constitution

The amendment of Article II of the Egyptian Constitution, which states that "Islam is the religion of the state," would serve to subvert the ruling order, Al-Azhar Grand Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, the highest religious authority in the Sunni-Muslim world, said on Wednesday.

Al-Tayeb added that Article II represented one of the “fundamentals” of the state.

Article II states: "Islam is the state religion, Arabic the official language, and the principles of Islamic Sharia the main source of legislation."

Al-Tayeb also said that Al-Azhar's grand sheikh should be elected to the post rather than appointed, provided elections were conducted in a free and fair manner--unlike Egyptian parliamentary polls held last year.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/al-azhar-head-warns-against-amending-article-ii-constitution

:mad: Who the hell does he think he is?

Article 2 of the constitution MUST be amended. It's just as bad as 76 and 77 and the similar ones.

Having a "religion of the state" is OUTRAGEOUS :bash: We are a multi-faith country, and everyone's rights and freedoms must be preserved. Who cares about religion, when we're all Egyptian?

Rights groups: Constitutional committee fails to reflect Egypt's diversity

Thirty-one human rights organizations have criticized the constitutional amendment committee drawn up by Egypt's Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, which has been mandated with drafting amendments to certain articles of Egypt's national charter. Rights groups argue that the committee only includes members of certain orientations and ideologies.

In a joint statement, rights organizations said the committee included government officials from the former regime, such as the assistant minister of justice and the assistant speaker of parliament. The groups also criticized the lack of female representation in the committee, despite the availability of qualified female experts.

The organizations also warned that some committee members were key members of legislation committees under the former regime, noting that they had played a role in formulating flawed legislation and constitutional amendments in 2005 and 2007. Rights groups also pointed out that the committee was devoid of independent, non-politically oriented constitutional law experts who enjoy the trust of the general public.

The groups also said that, despite its importance, the committee did not reflect Egypt's political and social diversity, opining that it had the appearance of a coalition between members of the former regime and representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/rights-groups-constitutional-committee-fails-reflect-egypts-diversity

I also agree, I'm not happy AT ALL with the Constitutional Committee. Especially the former Muslim Brotherhood member in it :bash:

Thirteen new political parties expected to rise from ashes of revolution

The Egyptian political arena is witnessing unprecedented activity following the 25 January uprising, with calls for the establishment of 13 new political parties.

Political thinker Tarek Higgy said he had contacted Coptic political activist Michael Mounir to collect signatures for the creation of a new party that aims to establish a secular and democratic state based on the principles of citizenship, liberalism and religious freedom.

Also, some 100 leftists met on Tuesday to prepare for the establishment of a party of their own. Spokesmen for the Liberation, Development and Defense Front said they had so far collected 20,000 signatures from citizens all over the country.

What's more, 5000 National Democratic Party members have also decided to form a new party, to be called the Egyptian Youth party.

Muslim Brotherhood (MB) member Nageh Ibrahim, meanwhile, said his group intended to establish a “civil” party with an “Islamic orientation” now that the group is no longer banned by the state.

MB dissident Khaled al-Zaafarany, for his part, said that 500 young people from the 25 January Revolution in Alexandria had vowed to join his new party, dubbed the Islamic Justice and Development Party after Turkey's ruling Islamist party.

The Egyptian Orthodox, Anglican and Catholic Churches, however, have refused to establish a political party for Christians, saying this would merely contribute to sectarian strife. :applause:

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/thirteen-new-political-parties-expected-rise-ashes-revolution

See! They're not asking to form a "Christian Party" why the hell should there be an "Islamic Party" to impose their barbaric stone age views on us?

We need to keep the constitutional article which bans any party based on religion.

My entire family will definitely be voting for the party that wants to establish a secular and democratic state based on the principles of citizenship, liberalism and religious freedom.

A secular Egypt should be the only Egypt. And I'm going to do everything I can in life to make sure Egypt is secular.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/al-azhar-head-warns-against-amending-article-ii-constitution

:mad: Who the hell does he think he is?

Article 2 of the constitution MUST be amended. It's just as bad as 76 and 77 and the similar ones.

Having a "religion of the state" is OUTRAGEOUS :bash: We are a multi-faith country, and everyone's rights and freedoms must be preserved. Who cares about religion, when we're all Egyptian?



http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/rights-groups-constitutional-committee-fails-reflect-egypts-diversity

I also agree, I'm not happy AT ALL with the Constitutional Committee. Especially the former Muslim Brotherhood member in it :bash:



http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/thirteen-new-political-parties-expected-rise-ashes-revolution

See! They're not asking to form a "Christian Party" why the hell should there be an "Islamic Party" to impose their barbaric stone age views on us?

We need to keep the constitutional article which bans any party based on religion.

My entire family will definitely be voting for the party that wants to establish a secular and democratic state based on the principles of citizenship, liberalism and religious freedom.

A secular Egypt should be the only Egypt. And I'm going to do everything I can in life to make sure Egypt is secular.

If they're going to make Islam the state religion they should make Coptic Christianity one too.

Jag lär dig gärna svenska min gode vän. Man kan nästan säga att det är en blandning mellan tyska och engelska. Engelsk och svensk grammatik är nästan identisk.

:D I noticed that, looks pretty similar to english.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/al-azhar-head-warns-against-amending-article-ii-constitution

:mad: Who the hell does he think he is?

Article 2 of the constitution MUST be amended. It's just as bad as 76 and 77 and the similar ones.

Having a "religion of the state" is OUTRAGEOUS :bash: We are a multi-faith country, and everyone's rights and freedoms must be preserved. Who cares about religion, when we're all Egyptian?



http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/rights-groups-constitutional-committee-fails-reflect-egypts-diversity

I also agree, I'm not happy AT ALL with the Constitutional Committee. Especially the former Muslim Brotherhood member in it :bash:



http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/thirteen-new-political-parties-expected-rise-ashes-revolution

See! They're not asking to form a "Christian Party" why the hell should there be an "Islamic Party" to impose their barbaric stone age views on us?

We need to keep the constitutional article which bans any party based on religion.

My entire family will definitely be voting for the party that wants to establish a secular and democratic state based on the principles of citizenship, liberalism and religious freedom.

A secular Egypt should be the only Egypt. And I'm going to do everything I can in life to make sure Egypt is secular.


and who are you to say that may I ask? See you want freedom in Egypt but you still dont do with it. He is free tosay what he want the people are free to do what they want.

you sounded arrogant no offense but away from my personal view who said that what you said is the right and the rest is wrong?

NASA to honor Tahrir Square martyr by putting name on spacecraft
Ali Zalat


Essam Mohamed Haji, a young researcher at the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), said that he had received approval from NASA to put Sally Zahran's name on a spacecraft that will head for Mars.

Sally Zahran was mercilessly clubbed to death during the recent Tahrir Square demonstrations. Haji said in a telephone call from his office in California that it was a tradition of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory to write the names of notable people on spacecraft at the request of NASA staff members or US citizens.

Haji said he had requested that Zahran's name be emblazoned on the spacecraft to honor the young woman's courage.

“This is the least we could do for Egypt's youth and the revolutionaries. This step represents the transfer of the dreams of Egyptian young people from a small stretch of earth to the enormous expanse of space,” Haji told Al-Masry Al-Youm.

Haji added that "standing in Tahrir is like setting foot upon the moon." He likened those standing in the hard-fought square--a central site of Egypt's recent protests--to the first man who set foot upon the moon. He said both had been started by a dream and had changed the world's views on human potential.

“Today, millions of young people are taking the first steps on the path to freedom with the same courage with which Armstrong stepped upon the moon for the first time. These young people have been subject to marginalization, alienation and repression for over than 30 years. The role of security agents was to protect only the elite while employing repression against the poor,” said Haji.
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/nasa-honors-martyred-sally-zahran-putting-name-spacecraft

By eliminating many important figures from the revolution like zeweil and barad3ei..plus others..and by choosing who to write the new constitution reform and who don't..we are already loosing our full demands in the drain here..who can assure me right now that those old figures -who used to be the regime puppets b4- aren't still just a front face for the tyrant group and his allies..

http://www.esforums.com/uploads/monthly_02_2011/post-2556-129789342463.jpg
http://www.esforums.com/uploads/monthly_02_2011/post-2556-129789354421.jpg
:cripes:

As Egypt69 already expressed, the committee formed by the army is quite bizzare in a sense that it includes a few people who have been involved with the Brotherhood or as Omar Sulieman puts it the Brother Muslimhood. :lol: Anyways, I totally agree that amending the second article of the consitution is absolutely critical to insure equality, unfortunately, with this committee in place, we will not see that happen. Actually, the same would be said about ANY chosen committee; no one wants to be driven into another crisis at the moment, and amending article #2 will fuel anger. However, that said, the constiution must clearly indicate that any political group formed on the basis of religion is unwelcomed, and illegal. If the Muslim Brotherhood want to enter the political scene as legitmate partner in reforming Egypt, they will have to begin by reforming their own group.

I'm both optimistic, and sceptic. Really do not know what to expect at the moment; however, I think the Army has reiterated that they want to guarantee a transition to DEMOCRACY. I hope they deliever on their promise.

EDIT: The committee also includes one Copt btw. It isn't an MB feast afterall. :D

http://www.esforums.com/uploads/monthly_02_2011/post-2556-129789342463.jpg
http://www.esforums.com/uploads/monthly_02_2011/post-2556-129789354421.jpg

I can't see the pics you posted. :)

By eliminating many important figures from the revolution like zeweil and barad3ei..plus others..and by choosing who to write the new constitution reform and who don't..we are already loosing our full demands in the drain here..who can assure me right now that those old figures -who used to be the regime puppets b4- aren't still just a front face for the tyrant group and his allies..

http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab182/maasrii/post-2556-129789342463.jpg
http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab182/maasrii/post-2556-129789354421.jpg

PM on Egypt: Israel must ‘prepare for worst’
By HERB KEINON
02/17/2011 01:09

Netanyahu says leaders and policy-makers around the world must be alerted of possible dangers that may lie ahead.

Israel shares the world’s hopes that Egypt will succeed in its quest for genuine reform, but unlike other democracies it cannot just hope for the best, but must prepare for the worst, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday.

Speaking to the annual Jerusalem meeting of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, Netanyahu said that part of preparing for the worst was “to alert leaders and policy-makers around the world of possible dangers that may lie ahead, not because I want them to materialize – I don’t – but because I have a responsibility to do whatever I can to increase the chances that they don’t materialize.”

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With these words the prime minister was taking on criticism articulated in recent days – most notably by New York Times columnists Thomas Friedman and Roger Cohen – that Israel has been on the wrong side of history in not fervently applauding the recent events in Cairo.

“No one knows what the future in Egypt will bring,” Netanyahu said. “People in Washington don’t know, and people in Tehran don’t know, and – this may be hard for some of you – but even columnists in The New York Times don’t know.”

Netanyahu said that while changing the status quo led to a much better situation in Europe in 1989 with the collapse of the Iron Curtain, the same cannot be said of the Russian Revolution in 1917, or the Iranian revolution in 1979.

Even more recently, he said, most of the world applauded the Cedar Revolution in Lebanon in 2005. But just a few years later, Hezbollah – “a terror organization that respects no human rights, that crushes human rights into the dust” – has taken over the country.

Ultimately, the Egyptians themselves will determine their own fate, Netanyahu said, “but Israel cannot profess neutrality about the outcome, because above all, we want the future Egyptian government to remain committed to peace with Israel.”



Netanyahu said he wanted “every single Egyptian” to know that Israel was committed to peace with them and the country’s other neighbors. Two-thirds of Egyptians, around 50 million people, were born after the 1979 peace agreement and don’t remember what life was like before the agreement was signed, he said. All of Israel’s neighbors should value what the peace agreement contributed to Israel and Egypt, the prime minister added.


“I have no doubt that maintaining the peace, deepening it, is in the interest of Egypt, and I hope this will accompany the Egyptian effort to achieve a free and democratic society as they pursue their reform,” he said. “While we wish the Egyptian people full success as they seek to forge a new future, we make no apologies for our fervent hope that they remain committed to peace.”

Netanyahu said that in recent weeks a number of accepted truths had been shattered, including that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was the central problem in the region. The US diplomatic cables published by WikiLeaks showed that the main concern of Arab governments was not Israel and the Palestinians, but Iran, while the protests currently rocking the Arab world showed that the main problem bothering the Arab masses was the quality of their own lives, and not the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

But, he said, “There are still those for whom the centrality of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to the region, and in fact to the world, is nothing less than an article of faith, and there is no evidence that these true believers will not ignore. But many fair-minded, objective observers are beginning to recognize reality.”

Last week, James Jones, US President Barack Obama’s recently retired national security adviser, said that the Palestinian-Israeli conflict remained the most important problem in the region, if not the world.

Even as much of the conventional wisdom regarding the region was falling by the wayside, Netanyahu said there was still “one truth that has yet to emerge: that it is not Israel that does not wish to advance negotiations to secure the final peace with the Palestinians, it is the Palestinians. They don’t want to negotiate. I hope that changes.”

Speaking just before Netanyahu, US Ambassador James Cunningham – seemingly trying to tame Israeli jitters over the American response to the crisis in Egypt – said the US was “not naive” about the emerging situation in Egypt, was “not in retreat, and does not underestimate the difficulties.”

Acknowledging that there has been “understandable concern” in the region about the “constancy” of American policy, “we have not abandoned our allies,” Cunningham said.

The ambassador also pledged that the Obama administration’s “dedication to Israel’s security and legitimacy will remain unshaken as we move through the weeks and months ahead.”

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=208568

I like how Israel speaks like Sinai was originally theirs and they "gave it up" to us through the Camp David Peace Treaty. They have to stop their useless threats, because we are rebuilding our damn country, and they should go clean up their mess and the blood on their hands away from our land.

Sinai is Egyptian land, with or without Camp David. Even if it was breached (since it technically is; we have army forces in Sinai), they have no right to attack Egyptian soil. Always looking for trouble those bastards (Netenyahu and company).

Instead of embracing the change in Egypt he's opposing the inevitable. He will not be on Egypt's good side after all this (I hope).

Loool at isreal, fe mathal by2ol, te5af men el 3afret yetla3lek. They talk too much about it they shouldn't be surprised if something really bad will happen

Thinking about it no one care they brought it up and reminded everyone they are building their grave by there own hands!

If they're going to make Islam the state religion they should make Coptic Christianity one too.

There should be no such things as a state religion IMO, not Islam, not Christianity not nothing.

Religion is a PERSONAL thing. It doesn't leave a person's hour, or the Mosque or Church, or the respective place of worship.

Why should it be involved in Government?

and who are you to say that may I ask? See you want freedom in Egypt but you still dont do with it. He is free tosay what he want the people are free to do what they want.

you sounded arrogant no offense but away from my personal view who said that what you said is the right and the rest is wrong?

How is what I'm saying "not free" or "wrong" ?

I want a secular state which respects the rights and freedoms of all Egyptians, and guarantees equality amongst all Egyptians, no matter what their religion is.

An Islamic state, or Sharia law violates not only some humanitarian/international laws and conventions, but it also will discriminate against non-muslims, minorities and women, all of which are just as Egyptian, and deserve just the same rights and freedoms.

That is my view anyway. I would vote for a liberal, secular, and progressive party. If you want to vote for the Muslim Brotherhood, you can, it's not my business. But I personally think they shouldn't be allowed to exist in the first place. And it's great that if we develop a democratic system, I and any other Egyptian who has the beliefs I do, will be able to take them down through the power of the vote.

PM on Egypt: Israel must ‘prepare for worst’


http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=208568

It actually pleases me to see them afraid. Now they know very well that they can't rely on their old puppet Mubarak for everything, and they can't get away with everything they want. And they would have to really start making fair concessions regarding the Palestinian cause, because Egypt won't be so lenient anymore.

It actually pleases me to see them afraid. Now they know very well that they can't rely on their old puppet Mubarak for everything, and they can't get away with everything they want. And they would have to really start making fair concessions regarding the Palestinian cause, because Egypt won't be so lenient anymore.

Jerusalem for Palestine:colbert:

Jerusalem for Palestine:colbert:

I'm afraid that is near impossible to happen. It's just too much of a request. Events in recent history have gone to far too be undone that much.

I think a more reasonable proposal would be splitting Jerusalem.

Seen via Al Masreya. EU agreed to freeze Mobarak assets

How true is it? Bank statement of Mobarak leaked
http://misrdigital.blogspirit.com/archive/2011/02/06/mubarak-gold-in-uk.html

I started a thread asking about on goings in Barhain at SSC forum those guys kept deleting it...is that the mentality in Bahrain or what?

Fuck I'm not from Masr but this is how i feel like:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZTeJFYa9470/TUhXJ7vR_xI/AAAAAAAAAhE/cTDCwdD-mbQ/s1600/walk-like-an-egyptian-7545-1296264418-60.jpeg

I started a thread asking about on goings in Barhain at SSC forum those guys kept deleting it...is that the mentality in Bahrain or what?

Fuck I'm not from Masr but this is how i feel like:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZTeJFYa9470/TUhXJ7vR_xI/AAAAAAAAAhE/cTDCwdD-mbQ/s1600/walk-like-an-egyptian-7545-1296264418-60.jpeg

Cause you're asking to a country which the main power is Sunnite and people who are protesting are Shiite which separates opinions and yeah.... That's what i call ''walk like an egyptian'' :)

Jerusalem for Palestine:colbert:You would trade Jerusalem in exchange for Palestine or what? And Palestine/Jerusalem for whom? ;)
[...]
I think a more reasonable proposal would be splitting Jerusalem.Yep. It would be restoring of both pre-war status quo and international obligations.
The only question is "will it be Jerusalem and East Jerusalem or Jerusalem and al-Quds al-Sharif"? ;)

How is what I'm saying "not free" or "wrong" ?

I want a secular state which respects the rights and freedoms of all Egyptians, and guarantees equality amongst all Egyptians, no matter what their religion is.

An Islamic state, or Sharia law violates not only some humanitarian/international laws and conventions, but it also will discriminate against non-muslims, minorities and women, all of which are just as Egyptian, and deserve just the same rights and freedoms.

That is my view anyway. I would vote for a liberal, secular, and progressive party. If you want to vote for the Muslim Brotherhood, you can, it's not my business. But I personally think they shouldn't be allowed to exist in the first place. And it's great that if we develop a democratic system, I and any other Egyptian who has the beliefs I do, will be able to take them down through the power of the vote.

Because if you really want Egypt to be free you should respect other peoples right to express themselves freely, no matter what they say.

There should be no such things as a state religion IMO, not Islam, not Christianity not nothing.

Religion is a PERSONAL thing. It doesn't leave a person's hour, or the Mosque or Church, or the respective place of worship.

Why should it be involved in Government?

I want a secular government too, I don't want religion and politics to mix.

I want a secular state which respects the rights and freedoms of all Egyptians, and guarantees equality amongst all Egyptians, no matter what their religion is.
Or isn't!;)
An Islamic state, or Sharia law violates not only some humanitarian/international laws and conventions, but it also will discriminate against non-muslims, minorities and women, all of which are just as Egyptian, and deserve just the same rights and freedoms.

That is my view anyway. I would vote for a liberal, secular, and progressive party. If you want to vote for the Muslim Brotherhood, you can, it's not my business. But I personally think they shouldn't be allowed to exist in the first place. And it's great that if we develop a democratic system, I and any other Egyptian who has the beliefs I do, will be able to take them down through the power of the vote.
:applause:

Reuters:FLASH: #Egypt's military says won't field candidate in presidential election

Nefsi 2arga3 Masr :applause:
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There should be no such things as a state religion IMO, not Islam, not Christianity not nothing.

Religion is a PERSONAL thing. It doesn't leave a person's hour, or the Mosque or Church, or the respective place of worship.

Why should it be involved in Government?



How is what I'm saying "not free" or "wrong" ?

I want a secular state which respects the rights and freedoms of all Egyptians, and guarantees equality amongst all Egyptians, no matter what their religion is.

An Islamic state, or Sharia law violates not only some humanitarian/international laws and conventions, but it also will discriminate against non-muslims, minorities and women, all of which are just as Egyptian, and deserve just the same rights and freedoms.

That is my view anyway. I would vote for a liberal, secular, and progressive party. If you want to vote for the Muslim Brotherhood, you can, it's not my business. But I personally think they shouldn't be allowed to exist in the first place. And it's great that if we develop a democratic system, I and any other Egyptian who has the beliefs I do, will be able to take them down through the power of the vote.

Lemme ask you the same question but from different view,

How is what you're saying "free" or "right" ?

That's your view fair enough but you have no right to say it's right or wrong! who decided what's right or what's wrong? everyone have there own personal view. you can just go and say you are wrong and I'm right with no prove or concrete evidence.

I'm personally not against your view, I agree I don't think Religion and Politics should mix and I want Egypt to belong to the so called Egyptians rather than been called an Islamic state, as that doesn't represent All Egyptians.

I'm against the way you're expressing you're view and yes you vote for what you want and everyone will vote for whom they want what the majorities agrees to will happen because that what make the majority happy. Like it or not.

I found an interesting article.

Source: http://ae.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20110205050214/Egypt%202011%20GDP%20Outlook%20Cut%20To%203.7%25%20Amid%20Lingering%20Risks

Egypt 2011 GDP outlook cut to 3.7% amid lingering risks

JEDDAH: Addressing capital imbalances will be a crucial matter for any government in Egypt, as public finances will no longer be contained this year after some years of hard work, Credit Agricole said Friday in its analysis on Egypt's "The Point of No Return".

The report said any government which comes to power will have to revert to some form of additional short-term subsidies.

More importantly, Egypt's budget deficit is bound to increase as the cost of borrowing rises and the government embarks on additional distribution tactics.

The report said that for the next three years, Egypt's gross public debt to GDP will remain around 70 percent. However, "we now think this scenario is no longer viable and we expect that public debt will revert to 85 percent this year and 97 percent by 2014."

Fiscal policy will be another major challenge for the government.

In all likelihood, there will be no rationalization of fuel subsidies and improving tax-evasion mechanisms will not be carried through this year, the report said.

Replacing the sales tax by a comprehensive VAT is expected to be postponed and measures to close loopholes in the income tax system will not be addressed this year.

Moreover, the proposed property tax will also not be enacted, restraining the revenue options of the state.

"We expect that the budget deficit this year could reach 12.3 percent from an estimated 8.2 percent.

Infrastructure expenditure by the government to help kick-start the economy, hinted at by the new minister of finance, would place an additional burden on the budget and fiscal consolidation. Banks will be under pressure to finance the budget, but risk - due to private sector output falling due to a decline in investments - will create unavoidable short-term challenges," Credit Agricole said.

On current account balance and fiscal balance, the report noted that over the short term, the Egyptian pound (EGP) would fall by 20 percent, which would require the central bank to intervene on several occasions. The main instigator of the fall will be the decline in capital inflows and rise in outflows.

The forecast decline is more than the 6 percent the EGP depreciated between September 2008 and March 2009. It subsequently appreciated due to resumed capital inflows. The drawdown in reserves would be a crucial factor in supporting the EGP, but increased political tensions, a run on local banks as well as expected dollarization of some of the deposits will impact the short-term currency outlook. The government will be caught 'between a rock and a hard place' as it could fast exhaust its foreign currency reserves to pre-2002 levels.

Moreover, the report said current account risks over the short to medium term as growth is expected to fall amid significant depreciation of the EGP and falling service receipts, tourism and remittances.

A small decline in demand-driven imports could offset some of the current account pressures but it will not be enough. FDI, which reached more than $13 billion in 2008 from below $1 billion pre-2004, would be impacted given that investor confidence is expected to fall precipitously.

Additional pressure on the EGP could arise due to a possible reintroduction of a parallel market in the US currency, Credit Agricole said. A parallel market rate, which had a premium of 15 percent in late 2003-04, could return as confidence declines and trust in the EGP falls. "This could be a major macroeconomic disturbance to our short- and medium-term scenario. A liquidity crisis is not implausible. We do not expect the Suez Canal to cease operating as the army will safeguard its smooth functioning. Any doubt about safe passage through the Suez Canal would be a significant destabilizing event for Egypt and would open the door to outside military intervention," the report noted.

A depreciating currency would lead to higher import costs, especially food imports such as wheat. Global food commodity prices are on the rise and that is likely to translate into additional burdens for the local economy. Inflation will continue to be the "untameable beast" that the government failed to stabilize despite concerted efforts. Food inflation of around 17 percent - which accounts for 44 percent of the inflation basket - is a major issue for the government, citing the 1977 bread riots that broke out in Cairo when the government tried to stop subsidizing it led to the army's intervention.

As the government refrained from instituting a cut to the subsidy, food riots broke out yet again in Cairo in 2008 and the army once again played a crucial role in reinstating order, the report added.

The government would not be able to combat inflationary pressures effectively as high fiscal deficits would only add fuel to an existing fire. Food inflation will remain a considerable worry as supply shocks could occur in several food categories due to the ensuing crisis. The government will have to address inflation, which remains at elevated levels, Credit Agricole further said.

In view of the political and economic conditions currently prevailing, Credit Agricole lowers Egypt's real GDP outlook for 2011 from 5.3 percent to 3.7 percent with additional downside risks lingering in the short term.

Another very interesting article:

Source: http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFN1717381120110217

US pledges $150 million to help Egypt's transition

WASHINGTON Feb 17 (Reuters) - The United States will spend $150 million to assist Egypt's democratic transformation after the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Thursday.

"It's very clear that there's a great deal of work ahead to ensure an orderly, democratic transition. It's also clear that Egypt will be grappling with immediate and long-term economic challenges," Clinton told reporters after briefing lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

"I'm pleased to announce today we will be reprogramming $150 million for Egypt to put ourselves in a position to support the transition there and assist with their economic recovery," Clinton said.

The United States has urged Egypt's military rulers to push ahead with plans for democratic reforms that can ultimately lead to free and fair elections in the country, which under Mubarak was a longtime U.S. ally.

Clinton said Bill Burns, the under-secretary of State for political affairs, and David Lipton, a White House adviser on international economic affairs, would travel to Egypt next week to consult with various stakeholders on how too use the funds.

The United States has maintained a financial relationship with Egypt's military for a long time, providing about $1.3 billion in assistance per year.

President Barack Obama's budget request for the 2012 fiscal year kept Egypt's military assistance at this level, and U.S. officials hope this will help maintain U.S. influence with the military leaders who took charge of the country after Mubarak stepped down on Feb. 11 following unprecedented political protests. (Reporting by Andrew Quinn; editing by Mohammad Zargham)

In every revolution, there is always a counter-revolution
سيناريو الثورة المضادة !
بقلم : محمد علم 2011-02-17 )

فى كل الثورات المنتصرة .. هناك ما يسمى بالثورة المضادة .. و يقوم و يخطط لها عدد من اتباع الحاكم المستبد المخلوع و المستفيدين منه و أعوانه
و أحيانا قد تنتهز الفرصة و تنجح مثلما حدث فى حالة الثورة الفرنسية فى احدى مراحلها .. و مثلما حدث فى الثورة المضادة على ثورة مصدق فى ايران عام 1951 و التى نجحت الى حد اعادة شاه ايران مرة أخرى وقتها بالشكل الذي جعل الشاه وقتها يقول ل" كيرميت روزفلت " ( ممثل المخابرات الامريكية ) :" إنني مدين بعرشي الى الله ثم الى شعبي ثم اليك " و كان صائبا فى الجزء الأخير فقط !

هذه الثورة المضادة كان لها محاولات ايضا فى تاريخ مصر , و كلنا نعرف ما حدث ايام العدوان الثلاثي على مصر ( 1956 ) عندما اجتمع عدد من الباشوات ( من أتباع النظام الملكي البائد ) ليحاولوا الاتصال بالسفارة البريطانية - اثناء الحرب و يعرضوا أنفسهم للحكم كبديل عن عهد عبد الناصر و ووصلت الاتصالات الى حد بدء الباشوات فى تشكيل حكومة من شدة ثقتهم فى انتصار بريطانيا و فرنسا و اسرائيل و سحقهم للقوات المصرية و المقاومة الشعبية فى بورسعيد , لكن ذلك لم يحدث و انقلب السحر على الساحر

و حتى فى حالة ثورة تونس .. شاهدنا كلنا اتباع نظام بن على و هم يشيعون الفوضى بعد هروبه فى الايام التى تلت السقوط لمدة شهر قبل ان تتكشف الحقيقة و يتضح ان بعض قيادات الحرس الرئاسي هم المسئولون عن هذا

و فى حالة ثورتنا هنا ... من يخطط لهذه الثورة المضادة .. ليس بالضرورة لعودة مبارك .. بل فقط لإستمرار نظام مبارك بشكل آخر اكثر تطورا او عودة بشكل جديد او ومختلف

و بالطبع لا حاجة للقول هنا السيناريو القادم ليس من قبيل التخيل المطلق ( و ستجدون بانفسكم ان الأمر اكثر تعقيدا من خيال اي شخص او قدرته على الاختلاق , مهما كان عبقريا )
بل هو اجزاء و شواهد وردت الينا مؤكدة من عدة مصادر حتى تكشفت لدينا الصورة كاملة بعد بحث مضني فى المؤشرات لنتأكد مما ورد الينا

و لا استطيع الجزم بوجوده 100 % .. و لكنني شخصيا متيقن انه حقيقي .. و لكن وجدت ان افضل ما نفعله للتأكد هو أن نقوم بعرضه عليكم
نعم .. سأعرض السيناريو تفصيليا و بعدها يكون الحكم لكم :
اذا كان هذا ممكن ؟ أو هذا صحيح ؟
هل هذا متوقع ؟

* الصورة الكاملة :
بعد نجاح الثورة و بدء حصارها لعدد من رموز و قيادات النظام و بقاء جزء منهم ينتظر المحاسبة قرر عدد منهم أن يبادر بالهجوم اتباعا لمبدأ " الهجوم خير وسيلة للدفاع "
و اجتمعت الضباع الجريحة على عدة طوائف متفرقة يجمعهم انهم من رجال النظام المطلوب انهاؤه :

* ضباط فى جهاز امن دولة تحركهم روح الانتقام و الخوف من المحاسبة على عهود تعذيب
* رجال مخابرات يدينون بالولاء لعمر سليمان
* رجال اعمال فاسدين معرضون للمطاردة و المحاسبة و المحاكمة
* قيادات كبرى و صغرى فى الحزب الوطني وجدوا أنه يصعب عليهم التلون فى ظل النظام الجديد و فى ظل جيل من الثوار لديه انترنت يوثق كل ما جرى و كل كلمة قالوها سابقا
* و قيادات اعلامية ( بعضها ما زال موجودا ) ينتظر اقالة بين ليلة و اخرى
* بعض المسئولين الحاليين فى الحكومة و فى مواقع حيوية ( منهم وزراء ما زالوا فى مواقعهم فى الحكومة الحالية و ينتظرون اقالتهم )

و بعد اجتماعهم , تقررت الخطة لتحقيق عدة أهداف متفاوتة المدى :
- الدفاع عن صورتهم بشكل عام و ازالة اتهاماتهم اعلاميا
- شغل الرأي العام و الثوار و الجيش عن محاسبتهم عن جرائمهم طوال سنوات فى حق الشعب المصري
- الايقاع بين قيادات القوات المسلحة و بين الثوار و افساد الروح الايجابية بينهم
- اشاعة الفوضى بشكل عام بهدف اظهار الحالة
- و ربما اذا نجح المخطط الى نهايته قد ينتهى بعودة النظام الحالى و ليس بالضرورة مبارك
.. بل قد يكون عمر سليمان أو حتى اي وجه جديد يضمن حماية اتباع النظام من المسائلة مستقبلا

و لتحقيق هذه الأهداف
بدأوا التحرك على سبعة محاور محددة و بعناية و خبرة تجمع بين خبرات سابقة كبيرة فى مجال الحشد و خبرات أخرى أمنية و استخباراتية فى مجال الحرب النفسية و فى فنون الدعاية السوداء و غيرها

هذه المحاور هي :

|| 1 || المحور الأول : عفا الله عما سلف !

ستجد كثيرا جدا من الدعوات تملأ عدد من الصحف و الفيس بوك تحمل هذا المفهوم
بحجة .. عفا الله عما سلف .. لا داعي للمحاسبة .. دعونا نبدأ صفحة جديدة .. فلننس الاحقاد
.. لتكن ثورة بيضاء للنهاية .. لنلتفت للمستقبل و لا نشغل انفسنا بالماضي
و هذه اول خطوة فى توجيه الرأي العام بعيدا عن فكرة محاسبتهم

و فى الأصل : لا تناقض ابدا بين الاعداد للمستقبل و المرحلة الانتقالية و الديمقراطية ,
و بين محاسبة رؤوس الفساد و الاجرام بشكل عادل و كامل !

.. و هو ما يوضح لك هذه الفكرة من ينشرونها و لمصلحة من ؟

و بالطبع ليس كل من يتحدث عن هذه الفكرة هو يعمل فى اطار هذا المخطط و انما قد يكون مقتنع بها أو تأثر بها اعلاميا بحسن نية و شعبنا شعب طيب و متسامح


|| 2 || المحور الثاني : زيادة عدد الاعتصامات الفئوية مع شيء من الفوضى

و يحدث هذا بالطبع مع توصيل الصورة إلى قيادات القوات المسلحة عن هذه الاعتصامات انها ( كلها ) بتحريك من الثوار ! و ليست احتجاجا على فساد او طلب لازاحتهم مثلا من مواقعهم !

و هو ما سيجعل - طبعا - القوات المسلحة تتصل تلقائيا بالثوار لتطلب منهم تهدئة وتيرة الاعتصامات .. و طبعا لن تصدق اصلا ان الثوار غير مسئولين عنها نهائيا او أنها بأى إيعاز منهم على الاطلاق .. و هو ما يجعل القيادة العسكرية تبدأ فى الضيق و نفاذ الصبر مما يفعله الثوار

و نستطيع هنا أن اؤكد بشكل جازم هنا ان اكثر من 60 % من الاعتصامات هي بإيعاز من هذا المخطط و ليس احتجاجات طبيعية و بعضها حتى مستفز جدا

و حتى نكون محددين , ستجد لها عدة سمات :
* تتسم ببعض الهمجية و الفوضى و بشكل غير سلمى التى تتناقض مع اخلاقيات الثورة فى ميدان التحرير الحضارية التى شهدناها جميعا و العالم كله
* ستكون اعتصامات سقف مطالبها مرتفع جدا جدا بشكل تعجيزي فى بعض الاحيان , و فى الاغلب تكون مالية فقط و لا تحوى اي طلبات تغيير فاسدين

* تعطل مصالح المواطنين بشكل متعمد و مضر جدا و أناني جدا بما يثير الرأي العام ضدها و ضد الثورة عموما

* و احيانا تتسم ببعض العنف بخلاف كونها سلمية من حيث تكسير مكان او رمي بعض الحجارة بشكل غريب و عجيب !

و الهدف هنا بالطبع ان تصبح الصورة فى النهاية ان الثورة دمرت الاقتصاد و دمرت مصر
و انها اشاعت الفوضى
و ان نظام مبارك كان اكثر استقرار من هذا !
و من يدرى قد تجد فى هذا المجال من يظهر و يترحم بشكل مصطنع على مبارك و ايامه هنا !

|| 3 || المحور الثالث : اثارة التعاطف حول مبارك

ويظهر ذلك فى عدد من الاخبار الغريبة التى يقوم ببثها فى بعض وسائل الاعلام مصادر "تدعى " قربها من الصورة فى منفى مبارك فى شرم الشيخ , من أخبار متتابعة
فتجد .. خبرا يتحدث عن غيبوبة لمبارك
.. و خبر يتحدث عن انه رفض مغادرة شرم الشيخ الى غيرها من البلاد " لأن هذه بلده و سيموت فيها "
و خبر آخير تجده عن انه سيؤدي العمرة و انه يوصى بدفنه فى قرب حفيده !
و حتى اخبار عن مشاجرات بين جمال و علاء ابني مبارك و ان حالته النفسية سيئة
و خبر آخر عن مجموعة تعلن تعاطفها مع مبارك تحت شعار " إحنا اسفين يا ريس "
مجموعة اخبار تلو اخبار
.. لا تعلم مصدرها و تظهر أخبار اخرى تؤكد كذبها بعدها !

فخبر الغيبوبة ياضح أنه فى اليوم الثاني المصادر الموثوقة اعلاميا تؤكد انه غير صحيح !
و خبر الحالة النفسية السيئة او الصحة المتدهورة جدا تنفيه اخبار وسائل اعلام و صحف عالمية تؤكد انه فى شرم الشيخ و يتناول الكافيار الروسي و الشيكولاتة السويسري بل و يتابع التقارير التى ما زال يرسلها له يوميا عمر سليمان و زكريا عزمي الذين ما زالا فى موقعيهما بروتوكوليا و صلاحيات عمل حتى هذه اللحظة !
و الأهم ما أكدته صحف موثوق فيها من انه يمارس حياته كأنه ( رئيس ) فى بعض الجوانب من حيث اطلاعه على تقارير سياسية عما يدور !!!!

|| 4 || المحور الرابع : تشويه صورة الثوار

و كمثال يظهر ذلك فى حملات التشويه التى ستجدونها تشوه الناشط السياسي وائل غنيم
فتارة ستجد فيديو يصفه بالماسونية و العمالة للخارج ! .. و تارة ستجد فيديو يصفه بالعمالة لأمن الدولة !

و المضحك انك ستلاحظ هنا سمات مميزة تشم فيها رائحة الوطني بإمتياز :
* السمة الأولى : انهما تهمتان متناقضتان من ذات المصدر
.. يعنى الا يذكرك هذا بمن كان يتهم الثوار بتبعيتهم لحماس و ايران و امريكا و اسرائيل ايضا !!!
.. تهمتان متناقضتان طبعا لأن الهدف واضح : تشويه فقط و ليس حوار منطقي !

* السمة الثانية : انها غبية بفجاجة !
يعنى عندما تجد واحد يقرر ان هذا ماسوني بناءا على تشابه فى حظاظة ( قد تكون موضة ) او بادج تي شيرت عادي .. فهذا تخلف و غباء يذكرنا ايضا بما رأيناه من التهمة اياها " بأنهم يأكلون وجبات كنتاكي " ايام الثورة , بينما كانت محلات الكنتاكي فى كل مصر مغلقة منذ يوم 26 يناير حفاظا على نفسها من التكسير اصلا !!!
الغباء واحد للأسف ايها السادة

|| 5 || المحور الخامس : ازالة اتهاماتهم اعلاميا

يظهر هذا فى ظهور عدد من رموز النظام و العاملين فيه مثل أحمد عز عبر قناة اخبارية ( العربية ) يعلم انها ستكون حنونة عليه فى الاسئلة بدون تعمق و انما بنظام سؤال و جواب و يظهر هذا فى مظاهرات الباشوات للشرطة تطالب بزيادة الرواتب .. و الظهور فى مظهر المطحونين و المظلومين !!!!
و الكل يعلم ان الرشاوي كانت عادة لديهم كنزوا من ورائها الكثير
( و المفارقة ان بعضهم كان يتظاهر مرتديا نظارات شمسية فاخرة او يضع سماعة بلوتوث تليفونه المحمول فى أذنه ) !!!!
و الأنكى و الاعجب هو اصرارهم على اعتبار " كل من سقطوا منهم " شهداء بقرار رسمي ضغطوا لصدوره !!!
و اذا كنت اعتبر كل العزل الذين سقطوا ضربا بالرصاص من الداخلية هم شهداء
فكيف اساوى بينهم و بين من قد يكون ربما سقط انتقاما من قتله لعشرات الشهداء او دهسهم مثلا ؟ دون تحقيق يوضح و يبين الحقيقة ؟
لكن هدف التظاهر هو ازالة اتهاماتهم اعلاميا و منع محاسبتهم

يضاف الى هذا انك لم تسمع من الوزير الحالى عن اي اخبار عن حل جهاز أمن الدولة ( اذا كانت النوايا حسنة )
او حتى اخبار عن اننا بدانا فى عزل او فرز الضباط ممن لديهم سجل اجرامي واضح و جرائم و شكاوى سابقة فى حقهم فى التعذيب و غيره ؟؟؟


|| 6 || المحور السادس : افساد العلاقة بين القوات المسلحة و بين الثوار

و ذلك عن طريق خلق استفزازات متبادلة بين القوات المسلحة و بين الثوار ,
هذا المحور قد تجده فى تشويه صورة القوات المسلحة و خلق استفزاز عن طريق تأخير الافراج عن المعتقلين السياسيين
( بواسطة رجال النظام الذين ما زالوا باقين فى امن الدولة مثلا ) و عن طريق الايقاع من الحكومة و رجالها عندما يقوموا مثلا بإلقاء مسئولية اعباء المعتصمين - بشكل متعمد - منها على اكتاف الجيش المثقلة بالاعباء اصلا
هذا المحور قد تجده في نقطة الاعتصامات المتزايدة بشكل زائد عن الحد بشكل واضح جدا و غريب
و هذا المحور قد تجده مثلا فى صفحة فيس بوك كتبنا عنها .. صفحة ( الراجل اللي ورا عمر سليمان ) و التى يتضح فى النهاية انها اساءة لرجل مقدم اركان حرب من رجال الجيش المصري !
( و ربما كانت هذه الصفحة فعلا دعابة بحسن نية فيمن كانوا وراء الصفحة و لكنها مثال على ما قد يمكن عمله مستقبلا فى هذا المحور )


|| 7 || المحور السابع : العودة للحكم عبر عباءة جديدة !

و هذا المحور طبعا قد ينجح فعلا و بدأوا يمهدوا له من خلال دعوة د. حسام بدراوي لتشكيل حزب جديد بإسم " حزب 25 يناير " !!!
و دعونا نتخيل هنا لو لم يكن قيادي فى الوطني وراء هذا الحزب و انما ينشئه عدد من المجهولين و يكون فى خلف الستار مجموعة اتباع النظام المخلوع يمولونه و يدعمونه بهدف الدفع من هذا الحزب الى سباق الانتخابات بوجه جديد قد يصعد الى الحكم و يحميهم من المحاسبة على الأقل

و بصفة عامة لا تثق هنا فى تلك الفترة - مهما كانت النوايا حسنة - فى اي حركة او ايا من يحمل لافتة 25 يناير
او الثورة الا ان يكون ينطوي على ثلاث سمات :
* السمة الأولى ان يكون به احدى القوى الاساسية التى قدحت شرارة الثورة ( شباب 6 ابريل - أدمين خالد سعيد - شباب حملة البرادعي )
* السمة الثانية ان يكون يأتى اما باختيار شعبي او باختيار اعضاء بناءا على اسس واضحة

و ستلاحظ فى هذا الاطار تعليقات موجهة من اشخاص ( مجهولين ) لاتعرفهم يتحدثون عن ان الثورة ليست حكرا على ( من نزلوا الميدان أو من ثاروا او من دعموا الثورة )
و ان النظام القادم ( يجب ) ان يشمل الكفاءات ايضا !!!!!
و ستلاحظ ايضا انقلابا ناعما فى تعليقات من كانوا ينشرون شتائم ضد الثوار و الآن يعلنون انهم " ايدوها من اول يوم " !

هذه المحاور و كلها ستجدها بدأ التنفيذ فيها فى الفعل و البعض ينفذ هذه المحاور بحسن نية دون ان يدرى

* سواء اعلاميا
( أمس كانت هناك حلقة من برنامج العاشرة مساءا عن الشرطة و اهمية تبرئة ساحتها و عفا الله عما سلف !
والغريب ان الضيوف من الشرطة كانوا ثلاثة ( اثنان من ضباط الشرطة و الثالث نائب مدير امن دولة سابق ! )
فى حين ان الضيف الذي يطالب بالمحاسبة بقوة و المحاكمة كان محامي فقط )

او على الانترنت .. فى فيديوهات لها اسماء على غرار ( الحقيقة وراء فلان ) ( كشف المخطط المستخدم من فلان او صفحة كذا )
او فى عدد من التعليقات لا تعرف مصدرها

اذن هذه هي محاور الخطة

|| 1 || المحور الأول : اسقاط الحساب عفا الله عما سلف !
|| 2 || المحور الثاني : زيادة عدد الاعتصامات الفئوية مع شيء من الفوضى
|| 3 || المحور الثالث : اثارة التعاطف حول مبارك
|| 4 || المحور الرابع : تشويه صورة الثوار
|| 5 || المحور الخامس : ازالة اتهاماتهم اعلاميا
|| 5 || المحور السادس : افساد العلاقة بين القوات المسلحة و بين الثوار
|| 6 || المحور السابع : العودة للحكم عبر عباءة جديدة !

ضع هذه المحاور فقط فى بالك فى الايام القادمة و تابع التعليقات على الانترنت او الاعلام و قل لي كم محور وجدته منفذا بالفعل ؟
اذا وجدتها السبعة .. فمعنى هذا ان المخطط صحيح بالفعل

لأنه تأكد من هذه القاعدة : لا يوجد ما يسمى بالصدفة أبدا فى عالم السياسة

كما قلت و أكرر

سأعرض عليكم تفصيليا و بعدها يكون الحكم لكم :
اذا كان هذا ممكن ؟ أو هذا صحيح ؟ هل هذا متوقع ؟

و الأهم هل سينجح ؟

هناك حديث شريف يؤكد ما معناه انه سيأتى زمان قد يكذب فيه الناس احيانا .. من هو صادق
و يصدق فيه الناس .. من هو كاذب

و البرت اينشتين قال :
الشيء الوحيد الضروري لانتصار الشر فى العالم ,
هو فقط : ألا يفعل الأخيار اي شيء !

لهذا اذا اقتنعت و تأكدت - مثلى - بصدقية المخطط القذر هذا فتحرك للقيام بدورك , ليس فقط بنشر المقال فقط , بل أيضا الوقوف ضد من تشعر انهم ينفذون هذا المخطط فى كل مكان , بالفكرة و بالحجة و بالنقاش

نعم , أتمنى أن تكون أنت من سيحدد هنا عزيزي القاريء
.. لأنه انت من سيحمى الثورة
.. و لا تنتظر أحدا غيرك يفعل هذا لأنك انت الثورة و انت من قمت بها , و انت من سيحميها و يدعمها

تحياتي

Translated in English for interested
Scenario of counter-revolution!
By: Mohammad Alam, 17/02/2011)

In all victorious revolutions .. There are so-called anti-revolution .. And planned and the number of followers of deposed dictator and his cronies and beneficiaries
And may occasionally seize the opportunity and succeed, as happened in the case of the French Revolution in one of the stages .. Just as happened in the counter-revolution to revolution Mossadegh in Iran in 1951 and which has succeeded to some extent restoring the Shah of Iran once again and then the form that made the Shah and then say's "Kermit Roosevelt" (representative of the CIA): "I am indebted Barchi to God and then to the public then thee "and was correct in only the last part!

This counter-revolution had attempted also in the history of Egypt, and we all know what happened to-day tripartite aggression on Egypt (1956) when he met a number of Pashas (followers of the monarchy defunct) to try to contact the British Embassy - during the war and expose themselves to rule as a substitute for time Abdel-Nasser, and arrived at the start of communication to the extent pashas in the formation of the Government of the severity of their confidence in the victory of Britain, France and Israel, and crushed the Egyptian forces and popular resistance in Port Said, but this did not happen and backfired

And even in the case of Tunisia revolution .. We all saw a bin on the system and they are mourning after fleeing the chaos in the days that followed the fall for a month before unfolding the truth and it is clear that some of the leaders of the Presidential Guard are responsible for this

In the case of our revolution here ... Of plans for this counter-revolution .. Not necessarily for the return of Mubarak .. But only for the continuation of the Mubarak regime is another more sophisticated or return in a new or different

Of course, there is no need to say here is not the next scenario, such as Imagine the absolute (and you will find yourself to be more complicated than the imagination of any person or his ability to spin, no matter what a genius)
It is a parts and evidence received and confirmed to us from several sources revealed until we have the full picture after arduous search in the indexes to make sure what is stated to us

And I can not say for sure 100% its existence .. But I personally am sure it is real .. But found that the best thing to do is to make sure that we offer you
Yes .. I will present a detailed scenario and then you be the judge:
If this is possible? Or this is true?
Is this expected?

* The big picture:
After the success of the revolution and the start of a blockade of a number of symbols and leaders of the system and the survival of part of them waiting for the accounting of some of them decided to initiate the attack following the principle of "attack is the best means of defense"
And met with wounded hyenas on a number of different denominations united they are men of termination of the system required:

* Security Service officers in the state are motivated by the spirit of revenge and fear of accounting covenants on torture
* Intelligence officers loyal to Omar Suleiman
* Corrupt businessmen are exposed to chase and Accounting and the trial
* Leaders of major and minor in the National Party found it difficult for them to coloration under the new system and in light of a generation of revolutionaries has the Internet documenting everything that happened and every word they said previously
* Media and leaders (some of which still exists) between the expected dismissal of the night and the other
* Some current officials in the government and in vital areas (including ministers remain in their positions in the current government and are waiting for dismissal)

After their meeting, it was decided the plan to achieve several objectives of the varying range:
- To defend their image in general and remove their accusations in the media
- Turn public opinion and the rebels and the army held accountable for their crimes for years against the Egyptian people
- Rhythm between the leaders of the armed forces and between the rebels and disrupt the positive spirit among them
- Creation of chaos in general in order to show the situation
- And perhaps if the scheme succeeded to an end, could end the return of the current system and do not necessarily Mubarak
.. But it may be, Omar Suleiman, or even a new face to ensure the protection of a system of accountability in the future

To achieve these goals
Started to move to seven axes specific and carefully and experience combine previous experience in the field of a large crowd, and experiences of other security and intelligence in the field of psychological warfare and propaganda in the black arts, and other

These axes are:

| | 1 | | The first axis: let bygones be bygones!

You'll find very much of invitations fill a number of newspapers and Facebook take this concept
Grounds .. Let bygones be bygones .. No need to hold .. Let's start a new page .. Forget grudges
.. The Revolution was white to the end .. To pay attention to the future and do not concern ourselves with the past
And this is the first step in guiding public opinion away from the idea held accountable

And in the original: there is no contradiction at all between the future and prepare for the transition and democracy,
Between capital and accounting corruption and criminality in a fair and full!

.. This is what shows you this idea and published it for the sake of?

Of course, not everyone is talking about this idea is working within the framework of this scheme and it may have been convinced or influenced by the media in good faith and our people, good people and tolerant


| | 2 | | second axis: increasing the number of sit-ins with a bit of factional chaos

This happens of course is connected with to the leaders of the armed forces of these sit-ins for it (all) move of the rebels! And not to protest the corruption or request to remove them from their example!

And is what will make - of course - the armed forces relating to automatically revolutionaries to ask them to calm down and pace of sit-ins .. And of course will not believe the rebels is originally responsible for them in any final or they instruct them at all .. And is what makes the military leadership begins in the narrow and impatience, which the rebels do

And here we can confirm definitively here that more than 60% of the sit-ins are at the behest of the scheme and not the protests, natural and some are even very provocative

And even be specific, you'll find it has several features:
* Are some of the barbarism and anarchy, and are peaceful which is contrary to the ethics of the revolution in the field of liberalization of civilization that we have all witnessed and the whole world
* Ins will be the roof of a very, very high demands are prohibitive in some cases, and mostly be financial only and does not contain any requests for change of corrupt

* Disruption of the interests of citizens deliberate and very harmful and very selfish, raising public opinion against them and against the revolution in general

* And is sometimes characterized by some violence other than being a peaceful place where cracking or throw some stones in a strange and wondrous!

The goal here, of course, that image becomes in the end that the revolution destroyed the economy and destroyed Egypt
And it brought chaos
And that Mubarak's regime was more stable than this!
And who knows you may find in this area appears, and pray for mercy artificially Mubarak and his days are here!

| | 3 | | Axis III: stirring sympathy about Mubarak

This is reflected in a number of weird news, which is broadcast in some media sources, "called the" proximity of the image in exile Mubarak in Sharm el-Sheikh, from sequential News
Vtjd .. News talking about a coma for Mubarak
.. And talking about the news that he refused to leave Sharm el-Sheikh to the other country, "because this country and will die in."
News of last resort and find that he make a pilgrimage and it is recommended that buried him in the near grandson!
And even news about the fights between my son, Gamal and Alaa Mubarak and his condition is mental ill-
And news of another group declares its sympathy with Mubarak, under the slogan "We are sorry, boss"
Group after News News
.. Do not know its origin and other news show confirm lying then!

Fajbr coma Iadh that in the second day of trusted media sources confirm that he is wrong!
And news of bad psychological situation or health deteriorating very denies news media and international newspapers, confirmed it was in Sharm el-Sheikh and deals with caviar and Russian chocolate, Swiss, and even follow up on reports, which still sends him daily, Omar Suleiman, and Zakaria Azmi, who are still on their protocol, and powers of action until this moment!
And most importantly has been confirmed by reliable newspapers of his life he practiced like (President) in some aspects in terms of seeing the political reporting what is going on!!!!

| | 4 | | Fourth Axis: tarnish the image of the rebels

An example is shown in the smear campaigns which you will find warp political activist Wael Ghoneim
Sometimes you will find a video dub Masonry and employment of outside! .. And sometimes you will find the video describes as an agent for the security of the state!

And funny you'll notice here characteristic smell the scent of the national prerogative:
* The first characteristic: they are contradictory two charges from the same source
.. Means, but does this remind you of someone who was accusing the rebels Ptbeithm to Hamas, Iran, Israel and America too!!!
.. Two counts of course contradictory, because the goal is clear: the distortion of dialogue, not only logical!

* The second feature: It is crudely stupid!
I mean when you find one that decides this based on the similarity of the Masonic in Hzazp (Fashion may be), or plain T-shirt badge .. This backwardness and stupidity is also a reminder of what we saw it of the charge "that they eat meals, Kentucky" the days of the revolution, while the KFC stores in all of Egypt has been closed since on 26 January in order to preserve itself from cracking already!!!
Stupid one, unfortunately, ladies and gentlemen

| | 5 | | Axis V: Removal of accusations in the media

This corresponds to the emergence of a number of symbols of the regime and its workers such as Ahmed Ezz through news channel (Arabic) knows it will be affectionate in without questions but deepen and system Q & A and this is reflected in demonstrations demanding Pashas police salary increase .. And appearing in the appearance of the downtrodden and the oppressed!!!!
And everyone knows that bribes were usually have Kenzoa from behind a lot
(Ironically, some of them and was pretending to wearing sunglasses luxury or puts his mobile phone bluetooth headset in his ear)!!
Weirder and worse and is to insist that "all of them have fallen" martyrs of the decision of the official pressed for its release!!!
And if you take all the beating unarmed fallen dead are martyrs of the Interior
How I am equal to them and among those who may have possibly fallen in retaliation for the killing of dozens of martyrs, or run them over, for example? Demonstrates the achievement and shows the truth?
But the goal of protest is to remove the accusations in the media and hold them accountable for preventing

In addition to this you do not hear from the incumbent minister of any news about solving the state security apparatus (if the intentions are good)
Or even the news about we're beginning to isolate or screening officers who have a criminal record is clear and earlier complaints and crimes against them in the torture and other???


| | 6 | | Sixth Axis: to disrupt the relationship between the armed forces and the rebels

And by creating mutual provocations between the armed forces and the rebels,
This axis may be found in the defamation of the armed forces and create a provocation by delaying the release of political prisoners
(By the men who still remain in the state security, for example) and through the rhythm of the government and its people, for example when they threw the burden of responsibility for the protesters - deliberately - including on the shoulders of already overburdened military
This axis may be found at the point of sit-ins is a plus for the increasing reduction in clear and very strange
And this axis may be found for example in the Facebook page we wrote about it .. Page (guy who Laura Omar Suleiman) and which is clear in the end it's an insult to a man of war by staff of the Egyptian!
(And perhaps this was actually a teaser page in good faith those who were behind the page, and but an example of what may be its future work in this axis)


| | 7 | | Seventh Axis: Return of the rule through a new cloak!

And of course, this axis may succeed and actually started to pave it by inviting Dr. Hossam Badrawi to form a new party called "Party January 25"!
And let's imagine here if it were not leading in the national and behind the party and but established a number of anonymous and be in the behind the scenes set to follow the ousted regime they fund and support it in order to push the party into the election race with a new face may climb to power and protect them from accountability for at least

And in general do not trust here in that period - no matter what the intentions are good - in any movement or any of a banner January 25
Or revolution, but to be involved on three attributes:
* The first characteristic to be by one of the underlying forces that lingered on for a spark of the revolution (April 6 Youth - Admin Khaled Said - Youth campaign ElBaradei)
* The second feature to be a popular choice either come or choose members based on clear

And you will notice in this context, comments from people (unknown) you do not know that talking about the revolution is not limited to (descended from the field or revolted, or those who have supported the Revolution)
And that the next regime (to be) that also includes competencies !!!!!
And you will notice also in the soft coup of comments were spreading insults against the rebels, and now they declare they are "initiators of the first day!"

These themes and you will find all began in the implementation of the act and implemented some of these themes in good faith without knowing it

* Whether the media
(Yesterday there was an episode of the tenth night, the police and the importance of clear her name and let bygones be bygones!
Strangely enough, the guests were three of the police (two police officers, the third deputy director of the former state security!)
While the guest who demands accountability and a strong trial attorney only)

Or on the Internet .. Videos in the names of her style (the truth behind the person) (user detection scheme of the person or to a page as well)
Or in the number of comments do not know the source

So these are the axes of the plan

| | 1 | | The first axis: Shoot down the account let bygones be bygones!
| | 2 | | second axis: increasing the number of sit-ins with a bit of factional chaos
| | 3 | | Axis III: stirring sympathy about Mubarak
| | 4 | | Fourth Axis: tarnish the image of the rebels
| | 5 | | Axis V: Removal of accusations in the media
| | 5 | | Axis VI: to disrupt the relationship between the armed forces and the rebels
| | 6 | | Seventh Axis: Return of the rule through a new cloak!

Place this formula only in the mind in the coming days and continued comments on the Internet or the media and tell me how much the center of his grandmother and an outlet already?
If I found seven .. It means that this has already been planned properly

To make sure that this rule: there is no chance never called in the world of politics

As I said and I repeat

I will put you in detail and then you be the judge:
If this is possible? Or this is true? Is this expected?

And most importantly, will he succeed?

There is talk Sheriff confirms what means he may come a time when people lie sometimes .. Is honest
And believe the people .. Who is a liar

And Albert Einstein said:
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world,
Is only: Do not good people to do anything!

So if it is satisfied and confirmed - like me - the credibility of this dirty scheme moved to do your part, not only publish the article only, but also to stand against those who feel they are carrying out this scheme in every place, idea and argument and debate

Yes, I hope that you will determine here Dear reader
.. Because it will protect you from the Revolution
.. And can not wait for anyone else to do this because you are the revolution, and you are you've made, and you are Christmiha and is supported by

Regards

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Because if you really want Egypt to be free you should respect other peoples right to express themselves freely, no matter what they say.



I want a secular government too, I don't want religion and politics to mix.

Lemme ask you the same question but from different view,

How is what you're saying "free" or "right" ?

That's your view fair enough but you have no right to say it's right or wrong! who decided what's right or what's wrong? everyone have there own personal view. you can just go and say you are wrong and I'm right with no prove or concrete evidence.

I'm personally not against your view, I agree I don't think Religion and Politics should mix and I want Egypt to belong to the so called Egyptians rather than been called an Islamic state, as that doesn't represent All Egyptians.

I'm against the way you're expressing you're view and yes you vote for what you want and everyone will vote for whom they want what the majorities agrees to will happen because that what make the majority happy. Like it or not.

Isn't that what I said? :sly:

I clearly said things in my post like "That is my view anyway." and " But I personally think"

And besides, if we all want secular states, then why are we differentiating? :cheers1:

I think Abdo reacted to this "Who the hell does he think he is?".

He is an Egyptian citizen and should be able to express his opinion. He's not the leader of Egypt though and one person alone should not be able to decide wether Egypt should be an Islamic State or not, especially since it's not. Egypt is a multifaith country with a Muslim majority. :)

But if someone wants to impose an Islamic State, a system which discriminates against Non-Muslims, women and minorities, that means he is depriving others of their freedom, therefore he does not deserve his freedom in the first place.

Freedom has limits. The limit is, when your views, limit other people's freedoms. Such views, should not be allowed.

Does he hold any power (not a rhetorical question I really want to know)?

You egypt69 I would respect your comment more if you said something like a person like him has access to spread info and to manipulate people''s views.

He really shouldn't abuse his power with opinions! But what do you expect? He's a hezb watany so that explains a lot!

Even if i'm against Egypt69.... Each of us have the right to pose his view.

You egypt69 I would respect your comment more if you said something like a person like him has access to spread info and to manipulate people''s views.

He really shouldn't abuse his power with opinions! But what do you expect? He's a hezb watany so that explains a lot!

I don't have a problem with anyone expressing their views, as long as their views aren't dangerous.

Even if i'm against Egypt69.... Each of us have the right to pose his view.

Fair enough. But what's your opinion on this issue? So you do not want a secular state?

I don't have a problem with anyone expressing their views, as long as their views aren't dangerous.



Fair enough. But what's your opinion on this issue? So you do not want a secular state?

Well i believe that our main source should be Islam but that a secular state would be fair enough. A modarate Sharia law would be fair enough. Not because you have a Islamic or Christian source that you cannot be secular...

Egyptian prosecutors have ordered al-Adly and Ezz arrested along with 2 others:
http://www.cnn.com/2...lution.arrests/

Well i believe that our main source should be Islam but that a secular state would be fair enough. A modarate Sharia law would be fair enough. Not because you have a Islamic or Christian source that you cannot be secular...

Why should there be any Islam in our legal system or constitution? What about the Non-Muslim Egyptians? :ohno:

There is nothing called "Moderate Sharia Law", Sharia is Sharia, a system that discriminates, and violates human rights.

Well i believe that our main source should be Islam but that a secular state would be fair enough. A modarate Sharia law would be fair enough. Not because you have a Islamic or Christian source that you cannot be secular...

I don't agree, that's discrimination towards non-muslims. Egypt is not Saudi Arabia, we're not Iran, Egypt has a huge christian minority and we have to respect that.

Whatever... I don't feel of fighting over religion issue...