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xAbd0o
May 25th, 2011, 08:39 PM
you have yet to explain why el baradie cannot run. Also instead of revolting against the SCAF we better of unite against the MB and tell the poor egyptians why they shouldn't vote for them. I don't understand why are you against the SCAF we need them in the mean time that's a fact. I don't understand what kind of person are you to even think the SCAF would do anything like they did in 1952 after 25jan think twice man go back to the 25jan thread and open page 1 read the first two pages and other old pages randomlly and tell me after reviewing that, tell me if you still get those nightmare?

Azmat
May 25th, 2011, 08:50 PM
LOL, yup ya azmat looks like it I have exams so I dont follow the news much these days :(

apparantly the SCAF Has been arresting blogger also some of those who protested in front of the isreali embassy. Also I hear police been fired at by gangs so security is there yet.

Apart from that I hear only good progress national talking, people building and investment and normal life getting there but not quite yet!

We need to give them time, sure, protest but for God's sake don't ruin the country with another revolution.

egypt69
May 25th, 2011, 10:05 PM
Can I just close this thread? It's really inconvenient discussing the same thing in 2 different thread.

Azmat
May 25th, 2011, 10:18 PM
Sure, this isn't really a revolution anyway, just protests.

xAbd0o
May 25th, 2011, 11:23 PM
I'd say wait only one day left really it's this friday.

xAbd0o
May 26th, 2011, 12:38 AM
Sorry ya kimo, but as I told you. I didn't come from vacuum.

Political powers say million man march not a 'second revolution'
http://thedailynewsegypt.com/egypt/political-powers-say-million-man-march-not-a-second-revolution.html

Montrealers
May 26th, 2011, 04:51 AM
Can I just close this thread? It's really inconvenient discussing the same thing in 2 different thread.

Al ya3ni wakhed massa7a... 2a3mel le ta3melo

egypt69
May 26th, 2011, 05:44 AM
^^ Mesh wakhed masa7a.....but why do we have 2 threads on the same thing? This clearly isn't anything special. Just another protest, we can talk about it in the Jan 25 thread.

Montrealers
May 26th, 2011, 06:57 PM
Egypt’s ex-spy chief says Mubarak knew of ‘every bullet fired’ as mass protests planned

By ABEER TAYEL
Al Arabiya with Agencies

Egypt’s former Hosni Mubarak, charged with murder, “had complete knowledge of every bullet fired” at protesters, according to damning testimony by his former spy chief, a day before activists plan to stage a mass protest dubbed a “second revolution.”

State-owned al-Akhbar daily reported Thursday that prosecutors partly relied on testimony provided by Omar Suleiman, the former head of intelligence and briefly vice president, to charge Mr. Mubarak with premeditated murder.

“Mubarak had complete knowledge of every bullet fired at protesters, and the number of those killed or wounded,” Mr. Suleiman is reported to have told prosecutors.

Mr. Suleiman said he relayed to the president hourly updates on the police’s deadly response to the mass protests that began on January 25 to overthrow President Mubarak, who ruled the country for three decades.

“The reports included all instances of firing live ammunition and rubber bullets at protesters in an attempt to abort the revolution,” al-Akbar reported.

Mr. Mubarak may be found guilty even if he did not order the killings of demonstrators but simply allowed the shootings to continue, a senior judge said before the former president was charged this week.

The justice minister has said Mr. Mubarak may be put to death if convicted.

Mr. Mubarak, 83, also faces other charges of corruption. He is in police custody in a hospital in the Red Sea resort town of Sharm al-Sheikh, after reportedly suffering a heart attack during an interrogation.

A medical team commissioned by the public prosecutor has found that the ousted dictator’s health is stable, but he is in a “bad psychological state” and suffers “from mood swings,” the official MENA news agency reported.

Mr. Mubarak will face trial with his two sons, Alaa and Gamal, who are in a Cairo prison. The date and location has not yet been decided.

An official inquiry found that at least 846 people were killed during the revolt that ousted the former president on February 11, many of them from gunshot wounds.

Egypt’s ruling military, meanwhile, said it has decided to stay clear of sites of mass protests to avert any unrest, a day before activists plan to stage a mass protest dubbed a “second revolution.”

The military, which has clashed with protesters since it assumed power in February, warned on its Facebook page that there were “suspicious elements who will try to pit the military against the people,” it said, according to Agence-France Presse.

“The Egyptian armed forces decided to have completely no presence in areas of protests to avert these dangers,” it said.

Security forces on Thursday arrested three activists putting up posters for Friday’s rally, according to AFP.

Protesters want the acceleration of trials of former regime figures and their removal from top jobs in police, universities and other public institutions.

An Egyptian court sentenced on Thursday a former housing minister who served under Mr. Mubarak to five years in jail and fined him over an illegal land deal, a judicial source said, according to Reuters.

Ahmed al-Maghrabi was one of the first of Mubarak’s ministers to be questioned in a wide-ranging graft investigation demanded by protesters who accused the former president and his administration of amassing wealth at the expense of the public.

Judge Assem Abdul Hamid Nasr found Mr. Maghrabi guilty of the illegal acquisition of public property and wasting public funds worth 73 million Egyptian pounds (around $12 million), a judicial source told AFP.

Prominent businessman Munir Ghabbour was also found guilty in the same case and sentenced to one year in prison.

Mr. Maghrabi is said to have approved Ghabbour’s illegal acquisition of around 18 acres of public land for well below the market price.

Mr. Maghrabi is the third senior minister from Mr. Mubarak’s regime to be sentenced, in a sweeping probe against corruption that has particularly hit the lucrative tourism and construction industries.

Earlier this month, former tourism minister Zuheir Garranah was also jailed for five years for wasting public funds worth $51 million, after authorizing the sale of state-owned land for below the market price.

Once feared Egyptian interior minister Habib al-Adly was also jailed for 12 years for corruption.

Mr. Adly was convicted of money-laundering and illicitly enriching himself while in office.

He faces a second trial on charges of ordering police to shoot protesters, and a third alongside the former premier and finance minister over a deal with a German firm to supply Egypt with license plates at allegedly inflated prices.

Protesters also want a return of security forces to the streets, amid weeks of insecurity and sectarian clashes blamed on remnants of the old regime.

But the Muslim Brotherhood, the country’s largest and best organized opposition movement, said it was “very concerned” by the call for protests.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/05/26/150651.html


UPDATE: Three activists arrested for promoting #May27 protests have been released http://bit.ly/k1VY4w

Montrealers
May 26th, 2011, 07:01 PM
@monaeltahawy: #Egyptian Protesters Plan 'Second Revolution' Rally - VOA http://bit.ly/mqswD3 #May27 #Jan25

egypt69
May 27th, 2011, 02:57 AM
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Also, see this: http://egyptianchronicles.blogspot.com/2011/05/may27-demands-list-that-rules-other.html

"We will not fire even one bullet at the proesters," SCAF

Egypt's ruling military council assures that the revolutionaries have the right for peaceful protests, but adding the armed forces will not be present

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) has released Communiqué 58 about the “Second Day of Rage” set for tomorrow.

In the communiqué, which was released on SCAF’s Facebook page, they say, “The children of this great nation, who have rewritten the history of modern Egypt through their peaceful revolution which has awed the world, have the right to peaceful protests."

SCAF then went on to add that the armed forces are from the people and work for the people, and “have always believed in protecting the revolution from the moment it started".

The statement added that the armed forces, “did not and will not use violence or fire even one bullet at the children of this precious nation.”

However, SCAF, then warned that protesters should beware, especially of the “possibility of suspicious forces conducting acts that will cause tension between the Egyptian people and the armed forces”.

SCAF said it has decided to keep the armed forces from being present during the protest, so as to ensure that tension does not happen, and that it will rely on the youth of the revolution to organise and secure the protests, because of the “historical responsibility they feel towards the interests of our precious Egypt”.

SCAF ended the statement by saying that the armed forces will focus tomorrow on protecting strategic infrastructure, so as to ensure the safety of the nation.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/13019/Egypt/Politics-/We-will-not-fire-even-one-bullet-at-the-proesters,.aspx

Hospitals on high alert ahead of Friday protests

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Hospitals have been placed on high alert ahead of Friday's planned demonstrations, according to a Health Minstry source. The ministry has raised the state of alert for hospital reception areas, blood banks and radiology departments in particular.

The source said that more than 30 ambulances are to be stationed close to Tahrir Square and in other likely flashpoints, particularly in the downtown area of Cairo.

The source added that medical and emergency services were preparing for a number of possible eventualities, and that staff numbers had been boosted to deal with the increased workload.

States of alert have also been raised for ambulance stations nationwide, and responses to major incidents would be coordinated through the ministry's central emergency control room, said the source.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/452966

ElBaradei lends his support to planned Friday demonstrations

Presidential candidate Mohamed ElBaradei on Thursday said he supports the planned demonstrations on Friday calling for the expedition of the trial of deposed President Hosni Mubarak and the participation of civilians in the political decision-making process during the transitional period.

“Peaceful demonstration is a basic right for people to make their voices heard,” he wrote on his Twitter account. “Casting doubt on intentions is divisive and counterproductive.”

The Muslim Brotherhood and Salafi groups have announced that they intend to boycott the demonstrations, which they say are against the interests of the people and are intended to drive a wedge between the military and the public.

Meanwhile, the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF), which has been ruling Egypt since the overthrow of Mubarak in February, in a message on its Facebook page, warned of suspicious elements trying to create divisions between the Egyptian people and the armed forces.

The council also wrote that no army troops would be present during the demonstration so as to avoid any attempts at creating discord between civilians and the military. The council expressed its confidence in the ability of the revolutionary youth to organize and secure the demonstration themselves.

Violence has marred demonstrations in Tahrir Square several times since March, with revolutionary youth groups blaming the remnants of Mubarak’s dissolved National Democratic Party.

In related news, the Arabic Network for Human Rights accused the Muslim Brotherhood group of agitating against the organizers of the Friday demonstration, while human rights organizations said the military police on Thursday arrested at least five activists in Cairo and Mansoura as they were distributing leaflets calling for participation in the Friday demonstration.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/452903



In Other news:

Mubarak knew of "every bullet fired", says Omar Suleiman

Mubarak's former intelligence chief and briefly vice president gives a damning perspective on what Mubarak knew of killings during the January 25 Revolution

Egypt's ex-president Hosni Mubarak, charged with murder, "had complete knowledge of every bullet fired" at protesters, according to damning testimony by his former spy chief published in a state newspaper Thursday.

Al-Akhbar daily reported that prosecutors partly relied on testimony provided by Omar Suleiman, the former head of intelligence and briefly vice president, to charge Mubarak with premeditated murder.

"Mubarak had complete knowledge of every bullet fired at protesters, and the number of those killed or wounded," Suleiman is reported to have told prosecutors.

Suleiman said he relayed to the president hourly updates on the police's deadly response to the mass protests that began on January 25 to overthrow Mubarak, who ruled the country for three decades.

"The reports included all instances of firing live ammunition and rubber bullets at protesters in an attempt to abort the revolution," Al-Akbar reported.

Mubarak may be found guilty even if he did not order the killings of demonstrators but simply allowed the shootings to continue, a senior judge said before Mubarak was charged this week.

The justice minister has said Mubarak may be put to death if convicted.

Mubarak, 83, also faces other charges of corruption. He is in police custody in a hospital in the Red Sea resort town of Sharm el-Sheikh, after reportedly suffering a heart attack during an interrogation.

A medical team commissioned by the public prosecutor has found that the ousted dictator's health is stable, but he is in a "bad psychological state" and suffers "from mood swings," the official MENA news agency reported.

Mubarak will face trial with his two sons, who are in a Cairo prison. The date and location has not yet been decided.
An official inquiry found that at least 846 people were killed during the revolt that ousted Mubarak on February 11, many of them from gunshot wounds.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/13021/Egypt/Politics-/Mubarak-knew-of-every-bullet-fired,-says-Omar-Sule.aspx

Egypt's ex-housing minister gets five year sentence


Egypt's former minister Ahmed El-Maghrabi has been sentenced to five years in jail for exploiting his post and wasting and expropriating public funds to further his private interests. Businessman Munir Ghabour has received a one-year suspended sentence in the same case and is required to pay 72 million pounds in restitution. El-Maghrabi is the third of Mubarak's ministers to receive a jail sentence after 25 January.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/13008/Egypt/Politics-/Egypts-exhousing-minister-gets-five-year-sentence.aspx

Investigators reveal more details on Mubarak family finances

The Illicit Gains Authority recieved further reports from prosecutors on Thursday regarding their investigations into the wealth of deposed President Hosni Mubarak and his family.

Investigators have revealed that Mubarak’s mansion in Sharm el-Sheikh is worth more than LE40 million, and that former officials manipulated the stock exchange in favor of his son Alaa.

Prosecutors state that officials allowed Alaa Mubarak to make more than LE30 million in profits in 1990 when he bought shares of the Palm Hills Company for LE99 per share and sold them for LE900 per share a week later.

They also discovered that he made hundreds of millions of pounds in closed public offers known as Horus1, 2 and 3, which were specially geared for him.

He is also said to have kept millions more in a bank account belonging to the charity that he formed and named after his deceased son Mohamed, which is managed by Hosni Mubarak’s wife Suzanne.

Prosecutors also sent reports about bank accounts and real estate belonging to Suzanne Mubarak, her other son Gamal, and his wife Khadiga al-Gammal.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/453122

Montrealers
May 27th, 2011, 03:14 AM
As you guys said yesterday... It will be nothing more than a simple protest...

gXwD1oE3hJM

Nefsi 2a3raf mn el motakhalef el 3amal el oghneya dee...

Montrealers
May 27th, 2011, 04:46 PM
صورة رائعة من أعلى المنصة في ميدان التحرير وتعانق حميم بين مسلم وقبطي #Jan25 #Egypt #25Egypt #Tahrir #May27 B)
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Montrealers
May 27th, 2011, 08:57 PM
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المجلس العسكري يعلن انسحابه من مناطق التظاهرات واقتصار دوره على حماية المنشآت الهامة

في رسالة تحمل رقم “58″ بثها على صفحته بالموقع الاجتماعي “فيس بوك”، أعلن المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة عدم تواجده بأماكن التظاهرات تاركاً مسؤولية التنظيم والتأمين لشباب الثورة، وأضاف البيان أنه سيقتصر دور القوات المسلحة على حماية المنشأت الهامة والحيوية للتصدي لأي محاولات للعبث بأمن مصر.

وأهاب المجلس بكل المصريين مراعاة الحيطة والحذر خاصة مع ما يتردد من احتمالات قيام عناصر مشبوهة بمحاولة تنفيذ أعمال تهدف إلى الوقيعة بين أبناء الشعب المصري وقواته المسلحة، لذا اتخذت القوات المسلحة قرارها بعدم التواجد لدرء هذه المخاطر.

كما أكد المجلس في بيانه أن حق التظاهر السلمي مكفول لأبناء الشعب، وأن القوات المسلحة جزء من هذا الشعب، مشيراً أنه لم ولن يطلق رصاصة واحدة تجاه أبناء هذا الوطن أو يستخدم العنف مطلقاً معه.

smart SCAF !! ;)

egypt69
May 27th, 2011, 09:48 PM
Calling for 'second revolution,' tens of thousands flock to Tahrir
Thousands of people poured into downtown Cairo's Tahrir Square Friday for what they called a "second revolution," calling for Egypt's military rulers to speed up the pace of democratic reforms in a country that is still charting its political future.

Protesters set up two stages and Sheikh Mazhar Shahin delivered a sermon to thousands of worshipers. Shahin stressed the need to try former president Mubarak, his aids, and major figures from his regime. He spoke of how a teacher, who was captured on video beating children with a ruler, was transferred to criminal court in 24 hours, while the deposed president remains in Sharm el-Sheikh without being punished.

Shahin stressed the need to uphold national unity and emphasized the importance of the military and the people remaining united. At the same time, Egypt’s current rulers must respect the demands of the people, he said, particularly those protesters who freed Egypt from injustice during the 25 January revolution.

After the Friday prayer, tens of thousands gathered around Sheikh Mohammed Gibril, who led them in prayer. At the same time, thousands of protesters flocked to the square from Bab al-Louq, Qasr al-Aini, and Qasr al-Nil bridge.

Christians and Muslims took turns praying in Tahrir Square, as they did in the protests that forced the ouster of former President Hosni Mubarak in February. Sectarian clashes have turned deadly since the revolution.

The ruling military warned that "dubious" elements may try to cause chaos during Friday's protests, and said it would stay clear of the protest area to avoid any friction.

Mohamed ElBaradei, the Egyptian Nobel Peace Prize winner and a reform leader, said that he was "seriously concerned about the absence of security forces."

The military's leadership of the country's democratic transition has left many protesters dissatisfied.

"I came here because I didn't feel that Egypt changed," technician Raafat Hendi said, under huge posters calling for a new constitution.

Some critics accuse the military rulers of collaborating with the former regime and being too lenient in its prosecution of Mubarak, his family and regime members. Mubarak now faces trial on charges of conspiring to kill protesters.

The Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt's best organized political force, opposed the protest and called it an attempt to drive a wedge between the military and the people. The Brotherhood's absence will test the ability of liberal and secular groups to launch their own sustained opposition movement.

Some liberal groups are calling for planned parliamentary elections, now set for September, to be pushed back so that they will have more time to prepare. The Brotherhood, however, stands to make major gains and wants the vote to go ahead.

The protest movement wants to oust the ruling Armed Forces Council and replace it with a civilian council. Protesters accuse the army of using excessive force in cracking down on peaceful protesters since Mubarak's ouster, sending thousands to military tribunals and detaining young protesters.

A joint statement by four liberal and secular groups called for postponing the September elections, drafting basic principles that guarantee that Egypt is a civil state and ending military tribunals.

The statement reflects worries of many political groups that the Brotherhood is poised to win a big portion of parliament.

The Brotherhood, banned in 1954, became a political force after renouncing violence in the 1970s. Eventually it became the most formidable opponent to Mubarak's regime, though it was still banned as a political party.

When Mubarak fell, the Brotherhood stood ready with a huge network of social services and supporters.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/453396

Tens of thousands protest to demand trials of regime figures

Tens of thousands protested throughout Egypt to demand the trial of Mubarak regime figures and to exert pressure on the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces to take steps toward political reform.

Eyewitnesses said that 20,000 Egyptians protested in the coastal city of Alexandria to demand the dissolution of municipal councils that have been controlled by members of the dissolved National Democratic Party. Protesters also called for trying Mubarak.

In the resort city of Sharm el-Sheikh, hundreds gathered in al-Hadaba. They demanded that Mubarak be removed from Sharm el-Sheikh hospital where he is being treated and transferred to Tora prison in Cairo.

In Suez, thousands of protesters emerged from Friday prayers to participate in the second Friday of Anger protest in Isaf square in the neighborhood of Arbi’in. Protesters called for purging the media of Mubarak regime figures.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/453448

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MASRI
May 28th, 2011, 05:15 PM
The good part: The Muslim Brotherhood (as usual) did NOT participate. :)

Montrealers
May 28th, 2011, 10:55 PM
The good part: The Muslim Brotherhood (as usual) did NOT participate. :)

Actually its a bad sign. Why would MB protest against the army? They no reason to do so...

xAbd0o
May 29th, 2011, 12:27 AM
According to you guys the MB made about 14million Egyptians vote yes in the previous, or at least said they made most of them vote yes. So clearly the MB is able to manipulate Egyptian in Millions! but today only about a million Egyptian opposed what the MB said. that's a worrying thing 1million infront of like 14million with MP :| I'm worried, although 4million voted no.

Montrealers
May 29th, 2011, 01:41 AM
According to you guys the MB made about 14million Egyptians vote yes in the previous, or at least said they made most of them vote yes. So clearly the MB is able to manipulate Egyptian in Millions! but today only about a million Egyptian opposed what the MB said. that's a worrying thing 1million infront of like 14million with MP :| I'm worried, although 4million voted no.

Our last chance remains in the hand of the army. The new face of Egypt will directly be influenced by the army, even when the new president will come in power. A president influenced by the parliament could be a high risk for the security of a nation since MB are willing to take the major part of the siege while in the other hand, socialized and liberal groups should allies with eachothers.

MASRI
May 29th, 2011, 05:00 AM
The MB manuiplated all 14 million people who voted? I do not think anyone here said that...

They manuiplated some of the poor.

Montrealers
May 29th, 2011, 05:26 AM
The MB manuiplated all 14 million people who voted? I do not think anyone here said that...

They manuiplated some of the poor.

Half of the population is poor:ohno:

MASRI
May 29th, 2011, 05:37 AM
Half of the population is poor:ohno:

True. And that is a predicament for Egyptian democracy.

That said, we had 14 million peope vote "Yes" in the referendum. 14 million can not be possibly only poor, MB-manuiplated individuals. There was a huge gap between the "yes" and "no."

As for yesterday, we are talking about a million in Cairo and Alexandria. And tens of thousands in other cities Nationwide. All without the MB.

Let us remember, the MB were against the 25th of January protests, and millions took to the street that day....

Montrealers
May 29th, 2011, 05:43 AM
True. And that is a predicament for Egyptian democracy.

That said, we had 14 million peope vote "Yes" in the referendum. 14 million can not be possibly only poor, MB-manuiplated individuals. There was a huge gap between the "yes" and "no."

As for yesterday, we are talking about a million in Cairo and Alexandria. And tens of thousands without in other cities Nationwide. All without the MB.

Let us remember, the MB were against the 25th of January protests, and millions took to the street that day....

I hope so. In fact, it was unclear what was the best option between voting ''yes'' or voting ''no'' ...

egypt69
May 29th, 2011, 06:15 AM
Mubarak says he only knew of police and thugs' deaths during revolution

Al-Masry Al-Youm has obtained files from the current investigation into former president Hosni Mubarak and his sons Alaa and Gamal. The three, along with businessman Hussein Salem - who remains at large - are alleged to be implicated in killing protesters, squandering public money and exporting gas to Israel at a discount.

In questioning, Mubarak said he knew only that policemen and thugs were killed when thugs attempted to break into police stations. He said his source of knowledge was the reports of former interior minister Habib al-Adly.

When asked if he followed televised news during the revolution, Mubarak said he just followed news agencies, which according to him only reported the deaths of police and thugs. Mubarak said he met with Adly and several officials on 25 January, and he asked Adly to exercise self-control in dealing with the protests and to inform him of developments as they happened.

In response to an accusation that he was given a villa by Salem in exchange for allocating him pieces of land, Mubarak said he purchased the villa with his own money, paying LE500,000. But investigations show that its real value at the time was LE24.5 million, according to an expert from the Ministry of Justice.

Sources said Mubarak broke into tears three times during questioning, and the sessions were paused so he could recover.

Although media reports claimed that Omar Suleiman, former intelligence chief and vice president, said Mubarak was aware of the shootings and could have given orders to stop them, the investigation files seem to show this to be false.

According to the results of the investigation so far, Suleiman said Mubarak gave instructions to Adly to exercise self-control and not use violence against protesters. Suleiman added that if Mubarak had known of the excesses that actually took place, he would have not approved.

Suleiman added that Mubarak left the Interior Ministry to deal with protesters, and when Adly suggested cutting off communications - including the internet - to reduce the size of protests Mubarak did not reject the suggestion.

Investigations have also revealed that there are no recordings nor is there correspondence exist that could indict Mubarak, contrary to media reports.

The questioning of Alaa and Gamal was carried out at Tora prison. They both denied the charges brought against them.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/454149

Mubarak, Al-Adly and Nazif fined for cutting communications during revolution

Ousted president Hosni Mubarak and former ministers Habib Al-Adly and Ahmed Nazif are fined $90.64 million for severing communications during January 25 Revolution

Former president Hosni Mubarak and former ministers Habib Al-Adly and Ahmed Nazif have been fined $90.64 million (LE540 million) for cutting off mobile phone and internet services during the January protests that led to the ouster of the Mubarak regime.

In a court ruling, Mubarak was fined LE200 million, former Minister of Interior Al-Adly LE300 million, and ex-Prime Minister Ahmed Nazif LE40 million. The court, however, didn’t cancel the licences of the mobile phone companies who implemented the order to cut services during the 18-day revolt.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/~/NewsContent/1/64/13117/Egypt/Politics-/Mubarak,-AlAdly-and-Nazif-fined-for-cutting-commun.aspx

egypt69
May 29th, 2011, 06:24 AM
CAIRO, EGYPT - MAY 28: Commuters sit on a platform of the former Mubarak Metro Station, now re-named Al Shohadaa (Arabic for Martyrs) on May 28, 2011 in Cairo, Egypt:


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Azmat
May 29th, 2011, 11:40 AM
:cheers: Mubarak is a taboo name in Egypt now. :lol:

xAbd0o
May 29th, 2011, 09:57 PM
egypt69 will feel better after reading this :|

http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/29/muslim-brotherhood-says-wont-force-islamic-law-on-egypt.html

Montrealers
May 29th, 2011, 10:16 PM
egypt69 will feel better after reading this :|

http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/29/muslim-brotherhood-says-wont-force-islamic-law-on-egypt.html

Once in power, they'll force :lol:
Never trust them.

xAbd0o
May 29th, 2011, 10:17 PM
you think the army would allow this?

Montrealers
May 29th, 2011, 10:21 PM
you think the army would allow this?

I don't know... The army will try to boost the popularity of any party that vows to keep their interest hided, same as protecting confidential things.

xAbd0o
May 29th, 2011, 10:23 PM
Well think about it. if the MB take over they'll mostly likely ask the army to fight Israel no? would the army want this?

Montrealers
May 29th, 2011, 10:33 PM
Well think about it. if the MB take over they'll mostly likely ask the army to fight Israel no? would the army want this?

MB wouldn't do that. First they'll try to secure their power and then they'll do whatever please them.

xAbd0o
May 29th, 2011, 10:39 PM
you can't deny that would be one of there plans no? and the army wouldn't want something like this anyways. also pressure from USA to the army wont allow this ;) smile.

xAbd0o
May 30th, 2011, 04:07 PM
ALREADY??????????????

http://www.facebook.com/Abnaamoubark

Montrealers
May 30th, 2011, 04:37 PM
All the assets are with Gamal Mubarak and Alaa but i don't believe anymore they have more than billions....

Lawyer: Mubarak wealth no more than $1 million

The wealth of toppled Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak is no more than $1 million and he has no assets overseas, his lawyer said on Sunday.

Farid al-Deeb also told CNN in an interview that Mubarak denied charges of graft and killing protesters during the uprising that ousted him in February.

"He was very sad and sorry because he did not imagine such accusations," Deeb said.

"His entire fortune amounts to around 6 million Egyptian pounds which he saved from working for 62 years. He does not own anything else in Egypt or outside of Egypt.

"He does not own a single dollar abroad."

Deeb said Mubarak needed help to go to the bathroom in the hospital in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh where he is detained.

"The president has serious heart problems," Deeb said. "He does not watch TV or anything else. They ban him from doing so to avoid more psychological pain."

"He speaks very little and suppresses a lot of his feelings."

Mubarak was ordered last week to stand trial for killing protesters and for corruption and wasting public funds.

More than 840 people were killed during 18 days of protests that toppled Mubarak. Twenty-six policemen were also killed.

Mubarak and two former officials were fined 540 million pounds by a court on Saturday for cutting mobile and Internet services during the protests.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/457218

xAbd0o
May 30th, 2011, 04:42 PM
are you kidding me? how about all these europeans countries? didn't the swiss say he have xbillion? [I can't remember the number]

Montrealers
May 30th, 2011, 04:43 PM
are you kidding me? how about all these europeans countries? didn't the swiss say he have xbillion? [I can't remember the number]

The whole story smells fishy... :dunno:
Maybe it's only a cover up by the army????
The assets in foreign country are lost cases i think.

xAbd0o
May 30th, 2011, 04:51 PM
First he want to apologies and give his money and we leave him alone and then this? maybe he want to give us a million and say sorry and GTFO :lol: NO WAY WE GOING TO ALLOW THIS!

Montrealers
May 30th, 2011, 04:52 PM
First he want to apologies and give his money and we leave him alone and then this? maybe he want to give us a million and say sorry and GTFO :lol: NO WAY WE GOING TO ALLOW THIS!

Ehna ben Hosny Mubarak msh folos... E7na ben7m dam!

xAbd0o
May 30th, 2011, 04:53 PM
Ehna ben Hosny Mubarak msh folos... E7na ben7m dam!

sorry can you rephrase that? :nuts:

Montrealers
May 30th, 2011, 04:56 PM
sorry can you rephrase that? :nuts:

e7na bayn 3elet Hosny Mubarak msh foloss.... Ehna ben7m dam el sho7ada2...

xAbd0o
May 30th, 2011, 05:15 PM
e7na bayn 3elet Hosny Mubarak msh foloss.... Ehna ben7m dam el sho7ada2...

true :yes:

Azmat
May 30th, 2011, 06:49 PM
All the assets are with Gamal Mubarak and Alaa but i don't believe anymore they have more than billions....

Lawyer: Mubarak wealth no more than $1 million



http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/457218

I'm sorry but only someone who's extremely credulous would believe something stupid like this.

ifif07
May 31st, 2011, 09:14 AM
Before the revolution criticizing Mubarak was the red line no one could cross, now the red line is the Army. People including journalists are being investigated for criticizing the army. What have we acheived?

Montrealers
May 31st, 2011, 03:30 PM
Before the revolution criticizing Mubarak was the red line no one could cross, now the red line is the Army. People including journalists are being investigated for criticizing the army. What have we acheived?


Only time will tell. I think the army have no intention to take control of the country but at the same time, the Scaf wants to protect their popularity in the egyptian society condemning any critisicsm... Unfortunetly, the army have the right do so since the emergency law haven't been lifted yet...

ifif07
June 1st, 2011, 09:01 AM
Three judges interrogated over ‘inflammatory statements’ on military trials

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/13330/Egypt/Politics-/Three-judges-interrogated-over-%E2%80%98inflammatory-state.aspx

Egyptian journalists to be questioned by military for denouncing the torture of activists

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/13270/Egypt/Politics-/Egyptian-journalists-to-be-questioned-by-military-.aspx


Egyptian general admits 'virginity checks' conducted on protesters

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-05-30/world/egypt.virginity.tests_1_virginity-tests-female-demonstrators-amnesty-report?_s=PM:WORLD

Egypt's army 'involved in detentions and torture'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/09/egypt-army-detentions-torture-accused

Amnesty: Egypt still abusing human rights

http://articles.boston.com/2011-05-19/news/29561139_1_egyptian-uprising-torturing-detainees-military-police

Montrealers
June 1st, 2011, 11:23 PM
عااااجل : مبارك يحتضر

كتب في: يونيو 1, 2011 | الكاتب: shams | لا توجد مشاركة

اقرأ غداً في الوفد الأسبوعي انفرادات جديدة حول توقف أجهزة العناية المركزية, وتعرض مبارك للموت بمستشفي شرم الشيخ, وتهديد إسرائيل بالعودة إلي احتلال سيناء.



وينفرد العدد بنشر أسرار القبض علي بطلة فتنة إمبابة, ومخاوف الشعب من عسكرة الإعلام, وعودة 6 ملايين مصري من العمالة المصرية بسبب محاكمات الرئيس المخلوع, ومحاولة شرف للقفز علي كرسي الرئاسة.

http://www.koraall.com/%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%A7%D8%A7%D8%A7%D8%AC%D9%84-%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%83-%D9%8A%D8%AD%D8%AA%D8%B6%D8%B1.html

The article briefly say that Hosny Mubarak is dying and Israel wants to invade Sinai.

xAbd0o
June 1st, 2011, 11:40 PM
and we suppose to believe it :hahaha:

Montrealers
June 1st, 2011, 11:42 PM
and we suppose to believe it :hahaha:

I'm trying to create a sort of bomb in this inactive forum :(

xAbd0o
June 1st, 2011, 11:46 PM
:lol::lol: you failed sorry. give it couple of week. you need to understand that most people have exams these days :|

Montrealers
June 2nd, 2011, 12:20 AM
:lol::lol: you failed sorry. give it couple of week. you need to understand that most people have exams these days :|

:lol: my mother gave me one too... Ihave arabic exam from now on:lol:
I'm able to ready now :D

Azmat
June 2nd, 2011, 12:27 AM
AWMAGA Israel is attacking!! Prepare the nukes!! :D

xAbd0o
June 2nd, 2011, 12:27 AM
Hehe, good luck man. If you need any help don't hesitate :D I'm thinking of taking an Arabic A-Level.

an example for a GSCE Arabic paper,

You have to do 4 exams. one of them you have to speak for 5mins [oral] and one for reading other for write and one for listening and understanding.

this is for listening and understanding,
http://www.edexcel.com/migrationdocuments/QP%20Current%20GCSE/June%202009/1606_01_que_20090514.pdf

^^ they put a tape on and you just tick the box depended on what you hear.

This is reading,

http://www.edexcel.com/migrationdocuments/QP%20Current%20GCSE/June%202009/1606_03_que_20090514.pdf

and this is writing,

http://www.edexcel.com/migrationdocuments/QP%20Current%20GCSE/June%202009/1606_04_que_20090520.pdf

what do you think? can you pass :D

egypt69
June 2nd, 2011, 11:01 PM
VERY VERY good article. I'd recommend a long, detailed read of everything:

Islamist-secular rift threatens Egypt's emerging democracy

Friday’s protests represented a possible climax in the deepening rift between Egypt’s secularists and Islamists that has developed post-Mubarak. With the Muslim Brotherhood warning the masses against participating - and leftists, liberals and nationalists fully backing the rally - political forces have failed to reach a consensus over the details of the transition period. Many voices warn that the split could bode ill for the prospect of successful democratic transition.

“The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces is the only beneficiary of this division,” says Emad Gad, political scientist with Al-Ahram Center of Political and Strategic Studies. “Now there is no united bloc monitoring the implementation of the revolutionary demands. If political forces were united, they could pressure [the SCAF] to achieve these demands.”

In the meantime, Gad, who is also a founder of the Egyptian Social Democratic Party, blames Islamists for the growing gap.

“It’s hard to heal this rift because the Brotherhood is dealing with the situation as if it were a golden opportunity for them to hijack power and gain a [parliamentary] majority,” he says.

During Egypt’s 18-day uprising, Egypt’s myriad opposition groups surmounted their differences. But in recent months, the Islamist-secular divide has dominated headlines.

The two camps disagree on the timing of the parliamentary elections, the process of drafting a new constitution, the role of religion in politics and the proper limitations to SCAF’s power during the transitional period.

The Brotherhood insists on abiding by the results of the March referendum, in which a majority endorsed the road map suggested by the military. Under the plan, parliamentary elections should be held this fall, with presidential elections later. The new parliament is expected to elect a 100-member assembly to draft the new constitution. Until all elections are concluded, the SCAF would continue to control the country.

The secular forces, trying to find a way around the plan approved in referendum, continue to demand that parliamentary elections be postponed until a new constitution is drafted. They argue that while Islamists and remnants of Mubarak’s National Democratic Party will most likely dominated the new parliament, these two forces should not also monopolize the writing of the new constitution, they contend.

Some groups also demand that the SCAF cede power to a predominantly civilian presidential council until all elections are concluded.

The SCAF has ignored such calls, insisting on holding parliamentary elections in September and sticking to the plan approved by the referendum. This reaction prompted some liberals to allege that the military forged a deal with the Brotherhood, whereby Islamists would be allowed a larger role in the next parliament in return for not interfering in military affairs.

Last Friday, secular forces sought to mobilize people to press their demands. While most groups called for a protest to pressure the SCAF to hold serious and public trials of the former regime officials, appoint new governors, and reshuffle the cabinet, others echoed more controversial demands to postpone the elections, draft a new constitution before the parliamentary poll and form a presidential council.

The nation’s oldest Islamist organization boycotted the protest and launched a smear campaign against those who made the call.

Through their official website, the Brotherhood accused the protests’ leaders of “driving wedges” between the military and the people. In another statement, the group sought to denigrate the groups by emphasizing their secular nature and accusing them of being “communist.” Both secularism and communism carry negative connotations of atheism in Egyptian society.

In response, secularists launched their own verbal war against the Brotherhood in the local media, accusing them of political opportunism and deploying similar tactics of the Mubarak regime.

The growing animosity might discredit both groups in the eyes of the public, according to Ammar Ali Hassan, columnist and political commentator.

The polarization “might make Egyptians turn away from both civil and Islamist groups and swear allegiance to the military,” warns Hassan, explaining that such a scenario might entice the military to remain in power. “Here, the military can turn from a partner and guardian of the revolution into an owner of it.”

The local press recently began to feature columns urging compromise. In the independent daily newspaper Al-Shorouk earlier this week, prominent columnist Diaa Rashwan proposed postponing elections until December so that nascent non-Islamist parties would have time to build support bases and hold “immediate” and “serious” talks among all groups to reach a consensus over the constitution. The outcome of these talks would serve as guidelines for the new assembly that would later draft the constitution.

Hassan says the Brotherhood could be convinced to have the constitution drafted before parliamentary elections. “Some Muslim Brotherhood leaders who oppose the idea oppose it because they fear being excluded from the process and not because they want to monopolize the new constitution’s drafting,” says Hassan, an expert on the Muslim Brotherhood.

Hassan and Rashwan might be too optimistic about achieving a compromise. Speaking to Al-Masry Al-Youm, Essam al-Erian, vice president of the Muslim Brotherhood’s would-be Freedom and Justice Party, expresses the group’s vehement opposition to writing the constitution first, and dismisses such proposals as an attempt to “circumvent” the results of the referendum.

“Is it possible to ignore people’s will? What would guarantee that their choices would be respected in presidential and parliamentary elections later on?” Erian asks rhetorically.

As to resolving contentious issues before drafting the constitution, the group has already refused to engage in the military-backed National Accord Conference, where different political factions were invited to discuss the fundamentals of the new constitution.

The group insisted that such discussions should be left to the assembly that the new Parliament is supposed to elect.

In the meantime, Erian intimated that such talks were unnecessary and argues that the Brotherhood already agrees with most other groups about what the constitution should look like in a broad sense. He affirmed his group’s commitment to democracy and the state’s civil nature, but most secularists refuse to take the pledge seriously. Doubts were exacerbated in recent weeks after some Brotherhood leaders made incendiary statements implying their plan to Islamize the state if they reach power.

Although the rivalry might seem irreparable, some expect Islamists to eventually settle for a compromise.

According to Akram Ismail, a founder of the secular Association of Progressive Revolutionary Youth, rapprochement with secular forces is in the Brotherhood’s best interests.

“They have a lust for controlling everything but they know that such an attitude might antagonize other forces and eventually these forces will call upon the army to intervene,” says Ismail.

In this case, Islamists fear a repeat of the Algerian scenario where the army crushed Islamists after their sweeping electoral victory in the early 1990s, Ismail continues.

In fact, the Brotherhood is careful not to risk sealing its fate by monopolizing power. This fear seems to shape the group’s discourse and tactics.

“We cannot turn a blind eye to the Gazan and Algerian scenarios. When Islamists there reached power quickly, the military establishment turned against them,” the influential Brotherhood leader Khairat al-Shater told a local paper in April when asked why the group would not field a presidential candidate.

As a sign of goodwill, the group had announced that it would not field any presidential candidate and would compete for no more than 50 percent of parliamentary seats.

Ismail contends that secular fears of Islamists hijacking the revolution and instating a religious state are overblown. First, there are large segments in Egyptian society that would not bend to an Islamic state. Second, the military would not accept such radical change, which could easily jeopardize ties with the West, explains Ismail.

The Supreme Council sent a warning to Islamists while also reassuring seculars and the West when it stated that Egypt would not turn into another Iran or Gaza.

Ismail believes that it is about time for secularists to stop emphasizing the secular-Islamist divide and get prepared for the parliamentary race.

“The [non-Islamist] forces should overcome their fears, become effective on the ground, and accept defeats. Politics is a serious job that’s not for fearful people,” Ismail concludes.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/461596

Montrealers
June 3rd, 2011, 03:52 PM
National security studies possibility of Al-Qaeda attacks in Egypt

General Hamid Abdallah, head of the Egyptian National Security Agency, said that Cairo is studying the possibility that Al-Qaeda would execute an attack in Egypt given the country's recently lax security.

In a statement to Al-Sharq Al-Awsat newspaper, published in London, Abdallah said that the Egyptian National Security Agency began its counter-terrorism and intelligence activities inside and outside of Egypt by looking into the new internal structure of Al-Qaeda after the recent death of Osama Bin Laden at the hands of American forces in Pakistan. The agency is also considering the possibility Al-Qaeda will plan and execute terrorist operations in Egypt given the security vacuum that resulted from recent unrest.

Abdallah added that Egypt continues to cooperate with other Arab countries to combat terrorism and organized crime.

Abdallah denied the presence of Al-Qaeda elements in the Sinai Peninsula or any other region in Egypt. He described recent reports regarding the infiltration of 400 Al-Qaeda members with Asian and Arab nationalities as “media tampering.” Abdallah made it clear that the agency recently tightened its hold on all of the country’s legal entry points that terrorists might use to enter Egypt under pseudonyms.

Abdallah stressed that the country’s illegal entry points, namely from the Eastern border through the Sinai Peninsula, are handled in cooperation with the military intelligence and the National Security Agency. The Egyptian National Security Agency only provides information to both of these agencies as it does not yet have an office in Sinai because of deteriorating security conditions there.

Translated from the Arabic Edition

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/462439

egypt69
June 4th, 2011, 07:16 PM
Egypt court sentences former finance minister to 30 years jail

An Egyptian court convicted former finance minister Youssef Boutros-Ghali in absentia on Saturday and sentenced him to 30 years in prison for squandering public funds and abuse of other funds, a court source said.

The court also ordered him to return LE30 million and to pay an additional LE30 million in fines, the source said.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/463415

That's the biggest conviction of any former official so far!

Azmat
June 4th, 2011, 07:22 PM
Not for long I hope, people like Habib El Adly deserve execution not just 12 years in prison.

egypt69
June 4th, 2011, 07:27 PM
^^

El Adly was given 12 years because he has only been tried for the corruption charges only.

His trial for killing the protesters is still to come and if convicted, can be sentenced to death or life in prison

Azmat
June 4th, 2011, 07:35 PM
When is the trial?

egypt69
June 4th, 2011, 07:41 PM
No idea.

xAbd0o
June 4th, 2011, 08:19 PM
Mubarak, gamal and 3ala2's trail is on the 3/8/11

bosshp
June 4th, 2011, 11:41 PM
When is the trial?

2/9/11 :cheers:

Montrealers
June 5th, 2011, 02:13 AM
I'm not even looking at the trial, i'm looking for the future.... The trial of Mubarak shouldn't oversee our future... We should focus on building the country instead of giving attention to this bloody murder.

xAbd0o
June 5th, 2011, 02:17 AM
I disagree. this is justice and we need to follow it up, if we don't you can expect corruption. as they know that people are not following them and so bribary is open anytime. though we should not exhuast ourselves too much about it :)

Montrealers
June 5th, 2011, 02:20 AM
I disagree. this is justice and we need to follow it up, if we don't you can expect corruption. as they know that people are not following them and so bribary is open anytime. though we should not exhuast ourselves too much about it :)

Once he get death penalty, do you think it'll end corruption? Imo, i don't think.

xAbd0o
June 5th, 2011, 02:22 AM
did you even read the last part I said?

though we should not exhuast ourselves too much about it

Montrealers
June 5th, 2011, 02:35 AM
did you even read the last part I said?

Good ;)

egypt69
June 5th, 2011, 07:00 PM
Poll finds most Egyptians do not back Islamic party, contradicting widely-held view

Majority of Egyptians oppose theocracy, only 15% support the Muslim Brotherhood

CAIRO — A poll released Sunday indicates that at this point, only a small minority of Egyptians support the powerful Muslim Brotherhood, and less than 1 percent favor an Iran-style Islamic theocracy.

The Gallup poll conducted after the fall of President Hosni Mubarak found that while 69 percent of Egyptians want religious leaders to have an “advisory role” in new legislation, most do not want a government based in religion.

Only 15 percent said that they support the Muslim Brotherhood, while more than 60 percent showed no political preference.

The results appeared to counter a widely held view that the Muslim Brotherhood will be the main winner in September’s parliamentary elections.

The Brotherhood favors a regime guided by Islamic Sharia law.

The Muslim Brotherhood, outlawed under Mubarak, said in April that it would contest half the seats in Egypt’s parliamentary elections in September, sparking fears among secular political forces of a parliament dominated by Islamists.

The group has become more vocal about its plans for a state drawing on Islamic law, drawing on its large network of social groups and followers, which were allowed to operate under strict security oversight from the Mubarak regime.

The poll results are heavily influenced by undecided voters among the 60 percent with no stated preference, but they indicate that if the election were held now, the Brotherhood would not be the controlling factor.

Indicating religious tolerance in Egypt, the poll showed that Egypt and Lebanon are the most likely in the Middle East to “welcome a neighbor of another faith.” Christians comprise 10 percent of Egypt’s population.

The Egyptians position toward the United States was not affected by the popular revolution. A majority of Egyptians expressed disapproval of U.S. policy, based on its perceived support of Israel, said Dalia Mogahed, director of Abu Dhabi Gallup Center. She said Gallup recommends that the U.S. “work tirelessly to end the Palestinian-Israel conflict.”

In local issues,the poll showed half of Egyptians believe that the economic conditions are worsening. Even so, the majority of people appear optimistic about a better political and economic future.

The poll, conducted in April, surveyed 1,000 Egyptians aged 15 and older between late March and early April, and quoted a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/poll-finds-most-egyptians-do-not-back-islamic-party-condradicting-widely-held-view/2011/06/05/AGby9WJH_story.html

Gallup poll released Sunday trends Egyptians on politics, religion, money

The Gallup poll released Sunday reveals, among many things, that Egyptians prefer clerics serve only in advisory roles, feel compatriots are less tolerant and poorer, mistrust the US, but are positive about their future

After the January 25 Revolution "Egyptians expect a bright political and economic future and they envision a representative government where religious principles guide the democratic process, but with clerics limited to an advisory role," according to a Gallup-Abu Dhabi report that was released this afternoon in Cairo.

The report also finds that "Egyptians are less satisfied with their standard of living, and the availability of necessities and they feel their communities have become less safe and less tolerant," despite a sound commitment to inter-faith co-existence and almost absolute rejection of violence against civilians.

Despite this discontent fewer Egyptians seem keen to migrate from the country, in contrast to before the January 25 Revolution. In fact, they are more willing to actively participate in the making of a new political system and to improve the level of economy.

“Egypt from Tahrir to Transition; Egyptians on their assets and challenges and what leaders should do about it” is the title of the report that attempts to assess Egyptians' perception of life at present and in the future. The report also has an eye on offering recommendations to the decision-makers and political leaders to help better manage the transitional phase and build up a democratic state.

Gallup conducted the face-to-face survey after the ouster of Egypt’s old regime on approximately 1,000 respondents in Egypt aged 15 and older. The research includes other primary sources and reveals both the opportunities and obstacles of the country’s transition to democracy.

“Though the live TV cameras have gone elsewhere, the central story in Egypt is only beginning. The most exciting and most difficult is the journey we are now beginning together to build a democracy on the ruins of a dictatorship. Our success on this journey will decide the future,” said Dalia Mogahed, executive director of Gallup Abu-Dhabi at the report’s release this afternoon in Cairo.

The findings reveal Egyptians’ views on democracy and freedom, the future role of religion in their new government, the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s standard of living and economy and approval rating of United States leadership.

“Egyptians are optimistic about their future and are willing to work to achieve a better tomorrow, but they also face a number of economic and political challenges,” according to Mogahed.

Meanwhile, the report reflected limited faith on the part of Egyptians in the support that the US would lend to them in the transitional phase or beyond. "At this critical juncture in their history, Egyptians fear US interference in their political affairs," the report notes.

The report offers a set of recommendations for leaders to fast track a peaceful transition towards democracy, primarily the creation of wide public trust in a fair and transparent political process. It also recommends job creation investments to help increase faith in the prospects of better economic standards and to give more people the sense of true ownership of the nation and the future.

Reforming local governing aparatuses and promotion of inter-faith cohesion are also highlighted by the Gallup Abu-Dhabi report that was released simultaneously in Washington DC.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/13703/Egypt/Politics-/Gallup-poll-released-Sunday-trends-Egyptians-on-po.aspx

:cheers:

egypt69
June 7th, 2011, 10:05 PM
Presidential candidates travel to Europe in search of expat votes

Presidential candidates Amr Moussa and Hisham al-Bastawisy are traveling to Europe to present their electoral programs to the Egyptian communities living there, in an attempt to win their votes in the coming presidential elections.

“I suggest holding the elections on 25 January 2012 to coincide with the first anniversary of the revolution,” said Moussa, who is leaving for Paris on Wednesday for three days, after which he will head for Belgium, Spain, Italy and Austria.

His rival Bastawisy is also traveling soon to France, Austria and Hungary, where he will spend ten days campaigning for his candidacy.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/465885

Amr Moussa against civilian council for transitional period

Outgoing Arab League secretary general and likely presidential candidate Amr Moussa said on Monday that he rejects the idea of forming a presidential council to rule Egypt during the transitional period.

Liberal forces have been calling for the formation of a civilian presidential council to rule the country, including several civilians and a representative from the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF). The civilian council would supervise the formation of a drafting committee to formulate a new constitution prior to the elections.

At a press conference at the Arab League on Monday, Moussa said: “I'm not in favor of the election of a presidential council, because this would extend the transitional phase.”

He went on to say a presidential council would not be useful and that the most important step was to prepare for the post-transitional period.

Moussa also announced his rejection of any delays to elections, saying, "It is difficult to write the Egyptian constitution at this time."

He said, "I hope the first annual celebration of the Egyptian Revolution on January 25 will be on the same day as the presidential elections."

Moussa added that the writing of a new constitution requires an elected drafting committee, and that this would be one of the most important priorities of the president-elect, who would call for a referendum on the new constitution.

However, he said, "I do not mind if certain articles concerning the rights of Egyptians are written now."

Moussa also said he was ready for debates with the other presidential candidates, “but when the time comes for this during the coming period.”

In March, Moussa criticized the SCAF’s timetable for running the country during the transitional phase. In May, he called for the postponement of the parliamentary elections and for the election of a drafting committee to formulate a new constitution.

He also expressed a preference for the holding of presidential elections prior to the parliamentary elections. Moussa said he believed the September date chosen for parliamentary elections was too soon.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/465777

xAbd0o
June 7th, 2011, 11:00 PM
hmm, Although i see no point but this is interesting. BTW can you merge the other locked thread about 27th may with this? aso isn't it time to move this to the skyahwa??

xAbd0o
June 8th, 2011, 03:54 PM
^^ I'm still waiting for a response regard that :yes:


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/466039

:applause: now the SCAF should do the same with the rest. solve the problem before it happen :) also at the end it mentioned 1billion load for new planes, which planes are they referring to does anybody know?

Montrealers
June 8th, 2011, 04:04 PM
International bankers are preparing to hand out a massive loan to Egypt's temporary leaders, just months after praising the financial growth overseen by the FORMER regime. The money's aimed at relaunching the economy, but the number of conditions attached to the cash is likely to weigh hard on ordinary people. And as Paula Slier reports, some people fear Egypt's sovereignty is being sold off.
3LCAhe8-Flo

DaZed and DiZzy
June 8th, 2011, 04:09 PM
of course the loans should be for the country not to help the temporary leaders consolidate their power

xAbd0o
June 8th, 2011, 04:12 PM
:nuts: hypocrites.

egypt69
June 8th, 2011, 09:42 PM
Very scary.

Montrealers
June 8th, 2011, 09:51 PM
IMF is a criminal organisation which smuggles illegal weapons around the world.... They have a goal to achieve which is domination.

xAbd0o
June 8th, 2011, 09:53 PM
^^
:nuts: hypocrites.

Source of GTFO :)

Montrealers
June 8th, 2011, 09:56 PM
^^


Source of GTFO :)

^^Who?

xAbd0o
June 8th, 2011, 10:04 PM
^^ I wounder :| did you see the upward arrows? they indicate the post before this ;)

Montrealers
June 8th, 2011, 10:26 PM
Khale wele... Look at what i found :bash:

مرتضي منصور يشتم نوارة نجم ويسري فودة وريم ماجد

jomoZ7HUcrI

Montrealers
June 8th, 2011, 10:51 PM
Bad Meets Evil - Fast Lane ft. Eminem, Royce Da 5'9

rJOsjP33nF4
4:01 for the walk like an egyptian@!!!!!!

xAbd0o
June 8th, 2011, 11:01 PM
off he killed it! Nice spot thou :D also I didn't know you're into emcee'in

Montrealers
June 8th, 2011, 11:10 PM
off he killed it! Nice spot thou :D also I didn't know you're into emcee'in

Well i don't listen much to eminem... Maybe a bit but not much.... I only have egyptian tracks, movie and soundtracks on my ipod... I prefer arabic music than Western culture...


These days i listen to Hesham el Gagh

Montrealers
June 8th, 2011, 11:46 PM
الشرطة البريطانية تحصر أموال مبارك

شكلت الشرطة البريطانية «اسكتلانديارد» وحدة متخصصة أوكلت إليها حصر أموال الرئيس السابق حسني مبارك تمهيداً لإعداد ملف كامل يحتوي علي تفاصيل ممتلكات ابنيه جمال وعلاء سواء كانت عقارية أو مالية تم شراؤها علي مدي العشرين عاماً الماضية مستغلين بذلك الصفة الوظيفية لوالدهما.
وبحسب صحيفة "روزاليوسف" في عددها الصادر اليوم فإن نفس الشيء تقوم به وحدة غسيل الأموال البريطانية لإعداد تقرير منفصل عن الأموال المهربة للمملكة تمهيداً لتسليمه إلي السلطات المصرية.
علي صعيد آخر كلفت السيدة "هوجت ليبل "مدير منظمة الشفافية العالمية بالاتحاد الأوروبي فريق عمل خاصا للمتابعة اليومية لما يتم التحقيق فيه بشأن ممتلكات مبارك وأسرته، تمهيداً للإعلان عن التقرير الأوروبي الموحد بخصوص أموال مبارك المهربة.

Montrealers
June 9th, 2011, 05:11 AM
Guys, Watch minute 18:20 :eek:
p-VZpUJUo2s

xAbd0o
June 9th, 2011, 01:30 PM
hehehe, you started to watch this program. ya 2lod :D

xAbd0o
June 13th, 2011, 12:03 AM
City Stars management says code of conduct is not a counter-revolutionary move
http://amay263.cdn.infralayer.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/highslide_zoom/photo/2011/06/12/36/dresscode.jpg
Signs advising against inappropriate clothing and forbidding public displays of affection above the entrance to the Cairo City Stars Mall were planned before the events that caused former President Mubarak to step down, according to mall management.

“We were trying to be more civilized,” said General Manager al-Hamy al-Kerdany. “We are surrounded by three hotels. We don’t like people to come in swimsuits.”

Kerdany said the new policies were devised initially after the H1N1 virus scare in 2009, as health precautions in consultation with the World Health Organization, not for religious reasons on behalf of Gulf investors.

“It is a healthy benefit, as well as matching our culture,” he said of the prohibition against holding hands and kissing.

The signs, which were posted this May, have caused a stir among young Egyptians who see the prohibitions as a sign that the Saudi-owned mall is taking a more conservative turn in the aftermath of 25 January.

They show a sleeveless dress, a couple holding hands, and a person on a skateboard with lines over them. Similar signs also forbid pets, alcohol and weapons. After complaints about their ambiguity, Kerdany said the management added text for clarification.

Now, underneath the crossed-out picture of the couple, Arabic text tells customers to please not show too much emotion “for the prevention of diseases.” And beneath the picture of a sleeveless dress, it asks patrons to consider wearing “suitable clothing”.

Kerdany maintained that the signs are for the comfort of all its customers, who come from different backgrounds and are mingling together in one place. He said they are not an indication that the mall is trying to exert control over Egyptian society. No one yet, he said, has been asked to leave the mall because of how they are dressed.

“We are welcoming all people,” he said, “and there are different tastes for each. But freedom, it is not freedom when you disturb other people.”

But whatever the management’s intention, the signs have not been interpreted as simple safety or health measures. An opinion article published in May in the American University of Cairo newspaper, Caravan, called the signs “the hijacking of the Revolution."

“We need to come out and say NO. No to segregation, no to an Islamic State!” said Youssef Abdel Aziz in the editorial.

A Facebook page has also been formed calling for a boycott of the mega-mall, one of the largest shopping centers in the Middle East.

“We’re losing our identity,” wrote Ola Althaqaby on the Facebook page’s wall. She said the pictures were a result of Wahabist beliefs about Islam.

“City Stars is testing the waters, and if we don’t react, others could follow suit,” she said.

The situation bears some resemblance to that of Cairo’s Grand Hyatt, when in 2008 the hotel’s Saudi owner decided that the establishment would no longer sell alcohol. The announcement sparked a similar discussion, but ended with the hotel returning to its original practices after pressure from Egypt’s tourism authorities. Egyptian tourism standards state that any hotel above two stars should serve alcohol.

The City Stars property, which is under Egyptian management, is owned by a group of Saudi Arabian investors called Pyramids Plaza. The mall features hundreds of international brands, coffee shops, restaurants and a movie theater. Many stores sell swimsuits, lingerie and sleeveless shirts and dresses.

Large cardboard posters covering yet-to-be-developed storefronts in the complex show cartoon-style young women in fashionable sleeveless dresses and high heels prancing through the avenues that are meant to embody the spirit of City Stars.

But over a month after the signs were posted, real shoppers at City Stars remained confused as to what the signs’ intended messages were.

“I don’t know the point,” said Noran Assam, wearing a headscarf and shopping at the mall with a friend. “It’s not clear, and it would be very difficult to enforce.”

Sara Gergis works at Orange, one of the stores in the mall. Wearing a sleeveless shirt, she said she feared the management could use the new signs as grounds for towing a more conservative line in the future. She said she didn’t buy the management’s reasoning about tourists in swimsuits.

“Even if that is the case, what is the signal, what are you trying to convey here?” she asked. “It’s sad that now we differentiate based on dress.”
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/467457


:| typical, nuff said!

egypt69
June 13th, 2011, 05:25 AM
Damn wahabi imperialism again :mad:

Where is the facebook page they are talking about? I'm also never going to shop there again :bash:

xAbd0o
June 16th, 2011, 04:07 PM
http://pic.myegy.com/pic_big/703503429.jpg

^^ in spain, Anyone is feelin' proud here :D

Montrealers
June 16th, 2011, 04:12 PM
عمرو موسى لصحيفة إسبانية: سنحترم معاهدة السلام مع إسرائيل..
عمرو موسى للشعب المصري: معاهدة كامب ديفيد انتهت..

انسى يا عمرو

صفحة فيس بوك منظمة التحرير الفلسطينية

xAbd0o
June 16th, 2011, 04:13 PM
:rofl: el tanakod :ohno:

Azmat
June 16th, 2011, 04:18 PM
LOL

Montrealers
June 16th, 2011, 04:26 PM
:rofl: el tanakod :ohno:

W 3ala fekra... He's the expected president lel 2sf....

Azmat
June 16th, 2011, 04:37 PM
I doubt it.

egypt69
June 17th, 2011, 05:07 AM
I don't like Amr Moussa. Something fishy about him. Remember before he only had good things to say about Mubarak. Not it's different of course. Plus he's the head of one of the organizations which I hate the most in this world.

I would not vote for him.

Montrealers
June 17th, 2011, 05:12 AM
OMG... OMG.. OMG..... Just saw Baradei on ESC-1 :)
He's on live egyptian tv :D

xAbd0o
June 17th, 2011, 12:53 PM
^^ sa7y el nom!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1379219


Seriously the interview ended like 5 hours before your post :nuts:

Montrealers
June 17th, 2011, 04:29 PM
^^ sa7y el nom!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1379219


Seriously the interview ended like 5 hours before your post :nuts:

Maybe not live but it was diffused at the same time i posted... btw Europe and America, its 5 hours of difference ;)

egypt69
June 19th, 2011, 05:04 PM
Egypt PM hints at election delay as nation debates

CAIRO — Egypt's premier has said delaying a September parliamentary election would give parties more time to prepare, as the nation debates its political future with early polls seen likely to benefit Islamists.

"Postponing the election would give the chance for a larger number of new political parties to develop," said Prime Minister Essam Sharaf, quoted by state-owned newspaper Al-Ahram on Sunday.

However, "whatever the time of the election, we will exert all efforts to make it a success," Sharaf said, in answer to questions at an event hosted by tycoon and politician Naguib Sawiris.

His comments come at a time of mounting calls by liberal and secular groups to delay the election until a new constitution is drafted.

The "Constitution First" campaign has sparked intense debate, with critics arguing that a delay to the poll would keep the ruling military in place for longer.

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces took power on February 11, after three weeks of nationwide anti-government protests forced president Hosni Mubarak out of office.

In March, 77 percent of Egyptians voted in favour of holding an election first and having the new parliament draft a fresh constitution.

A September election is expected to boost Islamists, particularly the Muslim Brotherhood, which has formed a party to contest roughly half of parliament's 508 elected seats.

Some groups have expressed concern that having the poll first would result in the Islamist group having too much influence over the constitution.
Last week, authorities approved the first Salafi (Muslim fundamentalist) political party -- the Noor party -- which, like the Brotherhood, wants the election held on time.

"Our strength will not go away if the elections are delayed. On the contrary, it will increase with the time," Noor spokesman Mohammed Yussri told the independent daily Al-Masry Al-Youm.

Salafist popularity is difficult to gauge but its increasing assertiveness worries secular Egyptians and the country's large Coptic Christian minority.
But the debate is far from clear cut.

Some secular and liberal opposition groups want to push ahead with elections to have the ruling military council -- which they see as an extension of the old regime -- out of power as soon as possible.

They also do not want to reduce the national debate to Islamist versus secular, preferring instead to focus on the mechanisms of democratic reform.
Last week, more than 20 human rights groups said having elections before drawing up the new charter would be "like putting the cart before the horse."
"A new regime must take its place, and its institutions and the relationships between them must be based on a new constitution," the groups said in a statement.

"This constitution must be drafted first, rather than building the institutions of the new order in accordance with the constitutional rules of the old regime."
Arab League chief and presidential hopeful Amr Mussa has also thrown his weight behind calls to delay the vote but is more cautious.

"I am not for a postponement in the democratic process, and I believe it should start before the end of the year, but I think September is too early to hold a parliamentary election," he said.

"It's better to to start either with the election of a people's founding committee to put in place a new constitution or to hold a presidential election," he said at a government-organised "national consensus" conference.

The military has said the parliamentary poll will be held on schedule in September, followed by a new constitution and then a presidential vote.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gtCZewnMHr8n9NB7tSwwc_espIMA?docId=CNG.3c87464718e1d06029b507a4b825c92c.221

MASRI
June 20th, 2011, 04:08 AM
He also supports the "Constitution First" campaign, but unfortunately, most of the power resides with the Military. He does not have a say (we'd be in a much better position if he was an "interim leader" with the Military focusing on Security with the Police.)

egypt69
June 21st, 2011, 12:07 AM
Egypt's Consensus Conference wants military to guarantee secular character of the State

Meetings between Egypt’s interim government and political leaders concludes that a constitutional article granting the military the power to enforce the secular character of Egypt’s state institutions

Egypt’s National Consensus agreed in their meeting Sunday that the new constitution should include an article that gives the armed forces the role of protecting Egypt’s civil institutions, regardless of the affiliation of the majority of the parliament (i.e. based on religion or other).

The decision came from the consensus’s Armed Forces and Investments and Monitoring Committee during their meeting today in the parliament building. The National Consensus is a conference led by the deputy prime minister, Yeyha El-Gamal, to discuss Egypt's interim period with political analysts, leaders and other interested parties.

The former social affairs minister, Mervat El Telawy, explained that this article would prevent Islamists, such as the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) or Salafists from adopting measures that would transform Egypt into a theocracy if they won a majority in the parliamentary elections set for September.

Several members of the National Consensus emphasised the need to draft the constitution before the elections to give nascent political forces time to gain momentum in the street, otherwise parliament will be dominated by old faces.

Samy Hegazy, a member of the committee added that today only three political parties have been established: the Free Egyptians Party, the Salafist El Nour Party and the MB's Freedom and Justice Party. The fact that there are so few official parties necessitates postponing the elections to give new parties the chance to become established, organise and campaign.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/14608/Egypt/Politics-/Egypts-Consensus-Conference-wants-military-to-guar.aspx

Gotta preserve the traditionally secular identity of the state :cheers:

Montrealers
June 21st, 2011, 05:26 PM
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/14608/Egypt/Politics-/Egypts-Consensus-Conference-wants-military-to-guar.aspx

Gotta preserve the traditionally secular identity of the state :cheers:


I accept without doubt.

Montrealers
June 21st, 2011, 07:10 PM
عاجل: مصر تغلق معبر رفح في وجه أهالي غزة حتى شهر سبتمبر بسبب وصول عدد المسجلين للعبور إلى 20،000

xAbd0o
June 27th, 2011, 01:17 AM
Intelligence chief ordered gas exports to Israel
Al-Masry Al-Youm has obtained 30 secret documents relating to the gas export deal struck between Israel and the regime of ousted President Hosni Mubarak, some of which implicate former intelligence chief Omar Suleiman in arranging the deal.

The documents include letters exchanged between senior Egyptian officials, the Egyptian Petroleum Ministry, and officials in Israel.

They reveal the pivotal roles that were played by former intelligence chief Omar Suleiman, former Prime Minister Atef Ebeid and former Petroleum Minister Sameh Fahmy in concluding the deal.

According to the documents, Suleiman sent Fahmy a handwritten letter on 19 January, 2000, informing him of the time schedule for gas exports to Israel and Turkey. Attached to the letter was a document labelled top secret, indicating that East Mediterranean Gas (EMG), the company owned by Mubarak’s confidant Hussein Salem, had been chosen to undertake the operation.

On 26 January, 2004, Suleiman sent Fahmy another secret letter, attached to which was a document empowering Fahmy, in his capacity as petroleum minister, to authorize the presidents of the Petroleum Authority and the EMG to sign the final contract, which he also attached to the letter, asking him to send him back a copy of his ministerial decree in this regard.

On 20 April, 2005, Suleiman also sent Fahmy a secret letter along with a memorandum of understanding, informing him that Israeli Minister of Infrastructure Binyamin Ben-Eliezer was willing to sign it.

And in another letter, Suleiman told Fahmy that the EMG was requesting the ministry to confirm that it would supply it with gas in 2011 before it signs any new contracts with Israel.
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/471840

:uh: WUT!

Montrealers
June 27th, 2011, 01:39 AM
Nothing impressive... Second spy chief home used to be Israel and i start thinking he was supporting the jewish lobby rather than supporting his country!

but look at this.

Did presidential hopeful Amr Mousa support Egypt-Israel gas deal?

Egyptian presidential hopeful Amr Moussa rejected allegations on Sunday that he had supported plans to export natural gas to Israel when he was Egypt’s foreign minister in 1993, saying the claims were aimed at damaging his reputation.

Egypt’s daily newspaper Youm7 has published a letter Mr. Moussa reportedly sent to the erstwhile minister of petroleum Hamdi El Banbi expressing his support for a plan to export natural gas to Gaza Strip and Israel.


In a statement obtained by Al Arabiya, Mr. Moussa said, “The way the report was written and published and its main headline are not correct,” adding that the report provides incomplete information“in a way designed to insult the minister and accuse him of spying [for Israel].”

Mr. Mousa told Al Arabiya that the report was part of a campaign to damage his reputation, denouncing “unprecedented” misinformation in the Egypt.

“I promised the Egyptian people that if I am elected president I will work to make them realize their dreams and ambitions, and the people are aware of my sincere feelings and words and this is what bothers many forces that want to tamper with the fate of this nation,” Mr. Moussa, the former secretary general of the 22-nation Arab League, said.

In 2005 Egypt and Israel signed a $2.5 billion agreement on sales of Egyptian natural gas to Israel. The deal was billed then as a sign of warming bilateral relations between the two countries.

Media reports that the gas was being sold to Israel for cheap prompted the outrage of the Egyptian public against their government and the regime of the ousted president Hosni Mubarak.

The price was estimated by Egyptian media to be range between $0.70 and $1.50 per million British thermal units (BTU). Israeli media report a higher price between $2.50 and $4 per million BTUs. The average global price for natural gas is between $6 and $7 per million BTUs.

The flow of natural gas from Egypt was halted in early February 2011 after a pipeline was sabotaged by unknown militants.

Mr. Moussa had said he would reassess the terms of the Israeli gas deal if he were elected amid hints from Egyptian officials that the contract may eventually be renegotiated or terminated.
(Mustapha Ajbaili, a senior editor at Al Arabiya English, can be reached at Mustapha.ajbaili@mbc.net)

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/06/26/154920.html

xAbd0o
June 27th, 2011, 02:01 PM
Since we don't have a presidential thread yet I'll post this here.

OMG, THIS IS AWFUL! THE TITLE IS MISLEADING!

Islamic presidential candidate says he is 'very liberal'
An Islamic preacher who plans to run for president told a London-based newspaper on Monday that he's "very liberal."

Hazem Abu Ismail told Al-Sharq Al-Awsat he plans to achieve progress but added, "If liberalism means breaking religious rules, then [liberals] are a misguided group."

Abu Ismail belongs to the Muslim Brotherhood and was its Dokki candidate in the 2005 parliamentary elections.

The Brotherhood previously announced it will not field candidates for the presidential elections and will contest no more than half the parliamentary seats this year.

Abu Ismail, who currently ranks fourth in a Facebook presidential poll conducted by the ruling military council, said his chance of winning is guaranteed as long as elections are fair.

He said if he wins, he will consider hiring former members of the disbanded National Democratic Party to work as advisers so they can prove they are not traitors.

His electoral platform does not stipulate religious rule in Egypt, the paper quotes Abu Ismail as saying, but conforms to Egyptians' beliefs in general. During a speech at a mosque in May, however, he said he would apply Islamic law if he wins.
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/471954

:eek2::eek2: WUT IS GOING ON??????????

Azmat
June 27th, 2011, 02:36 PM
I don't get it... He's clearly not liberal...

egypt69
June 27th, 2011, 05:27 PM
"If liberalism means breaking religious rules, then [liberals] are a misguided group." - lol what an idiot.

Montrealers
June 28th, 2011, 04:08 AM
London expresses willingness to sign extradition treaty with Cairo.

British ambassador to Cairo James Watt said on Monday that his country has no objection to signing an extradition treaty with Egypt in the future
He explained that the British Parliament makes the decision on whether or not to sign an extradition agreement based on the extent to which a given country respects human rights.

Watt, who assumed office three weeks ago, said the British judiciary quickly responded to requests by the Egyptian government to freeze bank accounts of certain wanted individuals, and called for patience, as the investigation of such matters takes time.

He also said that 40 million pounds sterling had been disclosed so far as having been transfered to Britain by members of the Mubarak regime, and that the total amount sent to British banks was probably much greater.

He added that the Egyptian government is preparing another list of names of people whose assests it wishes British authorities to freeze. So far, the accounts of 40 individuals have been frozen.

Watt said that London had invited a delegation from the Egyptian elections committee to familiarize it with procedures adopted in British elections, and that the British felt the committee was qualified to conduct proper and transparent elections in Egypt.

He also believed that certain forces intend to monopolize the political scene in Egypt, “as if the people had no right to choose for themselves,” as he put it.

really this will be the best move to do !! ;)

Montrealers
June 28th, 2011, 06:15 PM
Ok, i have alot to say....

First

قائد المنطقة المركزية اللواء حسن الروينى يصف الاعتصام الاول قبل التنحى بتمثلية وينفى وجود شهداء او مصابين يوم موقعة الجمل ويحاول فض الاعتصام ولكن الدكاترة المتواجدين يرفضون فض الاعتصام


MlbT9d7H_2k

Mass demonstration in Tahrir Square is planned the 8 July

El Mataleb
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/261454_247434428606453_146745782008652_1181224_1879812_n.jpg

Montrealers
June 28th, 2011, 06:19 PM
Egyptian activists say revolution must go 'back to basics'

Egyptian activists are calling for a massive rally on July 8 to 'save the revolution' that toppled Hosni Mubarak, urging politicians to drop debates on the timing of elections and focus on the basics.

In a Facebook page entitled "The 2nd revolution of anger", activists say the fundamental demands of the uprising -- to protect rights and freedoms -- have not been met, and have instead become clouded by arguments on whether elections or a constitution should come first.

"To all rival political forces debating which should come first, constitution or elections, save your revolution first, save Egypt first. Our revolution is collapsing," the activists said on their Facebook page, which has garnered over 55,000 members.

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, which took over when mass protests forced Mubarak from power in February, has scheduled parliamentary elections for September.

But an autumn poll is expected to play into the hands of the well entrenched Muslim Brotherhood, prompting calls from secular politicians for a delay to allow new parties to organize themselves.

Some have also called for a new constitution to be drawn up before the election, for fear that the Islamist group will otherwise have too much influence over the drafting of the charter.

But those behind the call for the 8 July protest say the debate is premature, arguing that the priority should be focused on ensuring freedom of expression, the public trial of those found guilty of abuse, and an end to military trials of civilians.

Protesters, who first took to the streets to demand the overthrow of Mubarak, began shifting their anger towards the ruling military council, accusing it of using Mubarak-era tactics to stifle dissent.

MASRI
June 28th, 2011, 07:32 PM
Egyptian court dissolves local councils

Cairo (CNN) -- A Cairo Administrative Court Tuesday ordered the dissolution of local municipal councils that were elected under former President Hosni Mubarak.

Dismantling the local councils was one of the major demands of the pro-democracy protesters who took the streets January 25, and whose demonstrations helped bring down Mubarak's government.

"The revolution will never be complete without dissolving the existing corruption-laden municipalities and reforming the system as a whole," said a statement issued by the Revolution Youth Coalition.

"Dissolving the local councils is a step forward in restructuring Egypt's internal system. There were good and bad people in the councils and it's possible that many of the members had close affiliations with the former National Democratic Party," said Ali Abdel Rahman, the mayor of Giza.

Local councils can only be dissolved by judicial orders and elections must take place within 60 days, Abdel Rahman explained.

Abdel Ghafar Shukr, an expert in local administration, explained that the alternative is to issue a new law based on decentralization. The councils represent the people and provide their basic daily needs, be it education, housing, health or simply more jobs. Councils should have their own local administrative budget, he said, because they know the needs of the people and the spending priorities. They should also have authority to supervise the executive body through open dialogue with the mayors of the directorates. If the mayor of a directorate is not performing up to standards then the council should be able to challenge this authority, Ghafar Shukr said.

"There are 1,790 local councils and almost 52,000 thousand members. In 2008 municipal elections, National Democratic Party members won the majority of the seats through forgery. These were the people that received bribes from the executive body of the ruling party in order to make sure they are elected in their villages and cities. Dissolving the local councils is a victory to the revolution. It's like the mini-parliament and its suspended members should not continue in any political role for the years to come," Ghafar Shukr added.

He also explained that the local council period was scheduled to end June 30 and that elections would have to start in the level of the villages, cities, and directorates of Egypt.

The Supreme Council of the Egyptian Armed Forces, which took over when Mubarak resigned, has announced that parliamentary elections will take place in September. Esam Sharaf, prime minister of the caretaker government, is under pressure to delay the elections.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/06/28/egypt.councils.dissolved/

:banana::banana::banana::banana:
:cheers:

egypt69
June 28th, 2011, 08:29 PM
:cheers:

Montrealers
June 29th, 2011, 04:49 PM
Things are getting worse in Tahrir Square or better after the clashes between autorities and protesters

Montrealers
June 29th, 2011, 05:06 PM
متابعة مباشرة من ميدان التحرير 1

V2l2UBZOVmw

egypt69
June 29th, 2011, 05:06 PM
I know, and I'm going to be there in like 12 days :/

Montrealers
June 29th, 2011, 05:47 PM
I know, and I'm going to be there in like 12 days :/

Menawar Masr :lol:

Montrealers
June 30th, 2011, 06:03 AM
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◄ مظاهرات فى السويس تطالب بتسريع محاكمة آل "مبارك" ورموز فساده
◄ نانسى وكريستين ذهبتا إلى الطب الشرعى بـ"النقاب"
◄ المصابون 10 أشخاص.. والمهاجمون لمسرح البالون بلطجية

المصري اليوم
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◄ عودة الدماء والدموع لميدان التحرير
◄ جمال البنا: "مصر مش ناقصها دين.. مصر ناقصها علم"
◄ البرادعى يطالب المجلس العسكرى بتوضيح حقائق ما حدث فى التحرير
◄ "الجمل": لم يكن هناك تنازع فى الاختصاصات مع "الغتيت"
◄ إحباط تهريب أسلحة وذخيرة من ليبيا إلى مصر

الدستور
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◄ أبو العزايم: "أم العواجز" أطاحت بمبارك بعد منع الاحتفال بمولدها
◄ الإنتربول المصرى: حسين سالم لم يتنازل عن الجنسية ويحمل جوازاً سعودياً
◄ طلاب الثانوية العامة: امتحان علم النفس سهل وفى مستوى الطالب المتوسط
◄ حمدى السيد: الطبيب الألمانى جاء لعلاج مصابى الثورة وليس لمتابعة مبارك
◄ الخضيرى يدعو الثوار للعودة إلى التحرير لـ"تطهيره من البلطجية"

الشروق
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◄ "العوا": نتانياهو طلب زيارة مصر 5 مرات.. و"العسكرى" لم يرد
◄ مؤشر البورصة يهتز على وقع أحداث التحرير
◄ 950 مصاباً فى مواجهات بين الأمن والمتظاهرين فى ميدان التحرير
◄ وزير العدل: ما حدث رد فعل على حكم القضاء بحل المجالس المحلية
◄ المفتى: أعطونى 5 مليارات جنيه وسترون مصر مختلفة بعد عام

الجمهورية
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◄ مصرع كبير مجاهدى سيناء وشيخ مشايخ قبيلة المزينة
◄ حسين سالم لا يحمل الجنسية السعودية.. وبطرس غالى لم يحصل على الأمريكية
◄ تغريم أيمن نور 20 ألف جنيه لسب شقيق مطلقته بالمحمول

Montrealers
July 3rd, 2011, 12:07 AM
Guys.... Look what i found

2000 on the list.... List expected to grow
الثوره مستمره - 8 يوليو - جمعه الصمود

http://www.facebook.com/pages/%D8%AD%D9%85%D9%84%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%AA%D8%A8-%D8%AF%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%83/229301357099610?sk=wall#!/event.php?eid=172441976152426

made by شباب 6 ابريل .. APRIL 6 YOUTH MOVEMENT

xAbd0o
July 3rd, 2011, 12:38 AM
hmm, interesting :) we'll see if they still have some sort of voice in Egypt :|

Montrealers
July 3rd, 2011, 10:38 PM
8th july planned revolution is more serious than i thought....

Clashes in Tahrir Square between supporters and opponents of ongoing sit-in

Clashes erupted in Tahrir Square on Sunday night between supporters and opponents of the ongoing sit-in being held there, with the two sides throwing stones at each other.

The clashes began when a group of people arrived in the square and began to remove the barbed wire and barricades that had been erected.


I have alot of updates via RSD and things are getting worse....

اشتباكات بين «الباعة» والمعتصمين بالتحرير
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Montrealers
July 4th, 2011, 04:14 PM
المتظاهرون يمسكون بأمين شرطة فى التحرير يحرض البلطجية

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egypt69
July 4th, 2011, 10:17 PM
Sh!t, my parents better not cancel our trip for this.

I get there on the 11th. I personally would take part if I can.

xAbd0o
July 4th, 2011, 10:49 PM
:lol: Don't worry they only do this kind of stuff on fridays I believe. I hear the other daily protests has stopped. you also have an anti-protest law.

Montrealers
July 5th, 2011, 07:38 PM
Excellent article :cheers:

Will Saudi Arabia lead Egypt's counter-revolution?
With Hosni Mubarak’s 30-year rule finished and much of the Arab world in a state of revolt, the time is ripe for Egypt to embark in a new, more independent direction in foreign policy. But Egypt will tread cautiously as the conservative states of the Arabian Gulf are not ready for dramatic change and will do what they can to preserve the status quo in the Middle East in a time of unprecedented uprisings.


“At this point, Saudi Arabia is leading a counter-revolution,” says Salman Shaikh, the director of the Brookings Doha Center, an international nonpartisan think tank, referring to Riyadh’s interference in neighboring countries’ uprisings. The main concern is Iran.
“For Saudi Arabia, Iran is the number one, two and three issue,” says Shaikh. “It has a very myopic view.”

Shortly after Mubarak left power on 11 February, Egypt’s new military government began to signal that it is ready to change relations with Iran, one of the biggest regional players and a traditional foe of Mubarak, Gulf states, Saudi Arabia and other pro-US forces in the Middle East.

Egypt and Iran have not had diplomatic relations since 1979, when Cairo welcomed the deposed Iranian shah after that country’s revolution. As yet, diplomatic relations have not been restored, but rumors have circulated since February that the process is underway and Foreign Minister Nabil al-Araby announced that he will meet his Iranian counterpart in May on the sidelines of an international conference in Indonesia. 
The new Egyptian prime minister stopped by Riyadh on 24 April, presumably to explain himself and make assurances to Cairo’s traditional allies in the region.


“He makes a very clear message that Egypt, when it thinks about making normal relations with Iran, will not do so instead of relations with Saudi Arabia,” says Hassan Abu Taleb, an analyst specializing in Gulf issues at Cairo’s Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies.


Meanwhile, the new Egyptian government seems to be exploring the possibility of modifying its relationship with Israel. Egypt was the first country to sign a peace treaty with Israel in 1979 and has worked with Tel Aviv on a number of regional issues since. 
Araby announced on 28 April that Egypt will permanently open its border crossing with Gaza, ending its collaboration with Israel in maintaining a blockade on the Hamas-ruled territory for the last five years.


The slight turn away from the US- and Gulf-led conservative coalition may already bearing fruit. On 27 April, rival Palestinian factions Hamas and Fatah came together in Cairo to ink a reconciliation deal. A number of regional factors played a role in the sudden decision compromise, but the change in Egypt was one.


The Mubarak regime, particularly under the stewardship of former intelligence Chief Omar Suleiman, had been attempting to broker such an agreement for years but with no success. This was, according to many analysts and observers, due to the regime’s bias toward Fatah, which is backed by the Gulf, Saudi Arabia and the US.


But even if the new Egyptian government, either under its current military leadership or its future civilian one, aims to reshape the country’s foreign policy, the change will most likely not be revolutionary.


“It’s better for Egypt to ease into any change,” says Abu Taleb, who argues that foreign policy for the most part will stay the same after elections next year. “They will all be pragmatic,” he says of potential new governments.


Egypt’s close ties with pro-status quo forces such as Saudi Arabia and Gulf countries means they have major pressure points they can use try to keep Egypt in check.
Egypt is in many ways economically dependent on those countries for investment and aid. Since the 25 January revolution, Gulf investors have promised billions for development projects in Egypt, while economic aid from those countries could help stabilize its new government. With the local economy in turmoil, these offers are important to Egypt.

Meanwhile, Egypt relies on the Gulf States and Saudi Arabia to absorb excess labor. Hundreds of thousands of Egyptians work in the Gulf and Saudi Arabia, sending home billions of dollars in remittances each year. In April, rumors circulated that the United Arab Emirates was denying visas to Egyptian workers in retaliation for warming ties with Iran. Though the Emirati officials and Egypt’s Foreign Ministry denied this, the reports highlighted the importance of the relationship with Saudi Arabia and the Gulf. 


Saudi Arabia is also a leader in terms of religion in the Muslim world, exporting its conservative brand of Wahhabi Islam to Egypt and beyond. The recent rise in the Egyptian Salafi movement’s political power suggests that Saudi Arabia may be able to play that card. Saudi and Gulf money funds most Salafi television stations and internet forums, and Saudi preachers are widely respected by Salafis.


“[Saudis] are trying to influence the development of the post-revolutionary ideology movement in Egypt, especially through their connections with Salafi movements,” says Ashraf El Sherif, an American University in Cairo professor who specializes in political Islamist movements.

“The Salafis are trying to pressure the Muslim Brotherhood to follow the Salafi model. The Saudis already are doing this,” says El Sherif.

While it may not be as big as the shifting regional balance of power, the issue of Egypt’s political Islamist movements raises another important concern for the Gulf. The success of a secular and democratic state in Egypt, the Arab world’s most populous country, would call into question the legitimacy of the conservative, religious monarchy in Riyadh. 


“They always presented themselves as the only valid, self-righteous version of Islamism,” says El Sherif. “Right now we can entertain different versions of Islamism that might be more democratic, more accepting than the Saudi Islamism


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/427433

Montrealers
July 5th, 2011, 10:53 PM
http://www.akherakhbar.info/banners/news320511.jpg


حقيقة ظهور جمال مبارك علي كوبري 15 مايو منذ يومين

القاهرة: - فجر عبد الفتاح علي الصحفي بجريدة الفجر مفاجأة في العدد الأسبوعي للجريدة عندما روي أنه شاهد بنفسه شخصاً يشبه جمال مبارك يركب سيارة اسبيرنزا سوداء فوق كوبري 15 مايو .

تفاصيل الظهور

وجاءت رواية الصحفي - وفقا لما نشرته جريدة الاهرام - لتؤكد وجود جمال مبارك في هذه السيارة ، وعندما حاول الاقتراب منه منعته سيارة ميكروباص تويوتا كانت تحرسه ، بل وصل الأمر الي أن شخصاً كان يجلس إلي جواره هدده بمسدس وحذره من الاقتراب من السيارة ، وأكدت مصادر داخل سجن المزرعة لقسم التحقيقات في الجريدة أن جمال وعلاء ليسا في السجن وأنه لا يعرف أين هما منذ 3 أيام ، بينما أغلقت مصادر أخري هواتفها بمجرد السؤال عن جمال مبارك .

الداخلية تنفى

ولكن وعلي الناحية الأخري وبمجرد نزول عدد الجريدة الأسبوعي في الأسواق نفي اللواء نزيه جاد الله مساعد وزير الداخلية لقطاع مصلحة السجون ما نشره عبدالفتاح علي عن عدم تواجد علاء وجمال مبارك نجلى الرئيس السابق حسنى مبارك داخل محبسهما بسجن المزرعة بليمان طرة ، بل ورحب قطاع مصلحة السجون بأى تفتيش مفاجئ من قبل وكلاء النائب العام للتأكد من تواجد جميع رموز النظام السابق داخل زنازينهم وعدم وجود أى معاملة مميزة لهم عن غيرهم من السجناء.

لا دليل الا الرؤية

وفي تصريح خاص للاهرام أكد عبدالفتاح علي مدير تحرير جريدة الفجر إنه كان يتوقع أن يصدر هذا البيان من قطاع السجون بتكذيب شهادته وتأكيد أن جمال وعلاء مبارك موجودان في السجن تحت الحراسة المشددة ، وأوضح أنه لا يمتلك دليلا واحدا علي كلامه إلا رؤيته وشهادته ونظره الذي تأكد به 3 مرات أن الشخص الذي كان يركب السيارة هو جمال مبارك وكان في حراسة مجموعة من البودي جاردات ، وأن نزوله وسط العامة هو جزء من التمويه لأنه لا يوجد شخص سوف يشك ، وساعده ازدحام المرور في النزول من السيارة والاقتراب منه والتأكد من أنه جمال مبارك ، وأضاف أنه وفريق العمل في الجريدة كانوا قلقين جدا من نشر الموضوع لأنهم متأكدون أن الجريدة سوف يتم تكذيبها ، وأضاف أن هناك مفاجآت أخري ظهرت له سوف يتم نشرها في العدد القادم تكذب رواية مصلحة السجون وتؤكد أن جمال مبارك " حر طليق " !

2mnshf eh akhreteha !!!!!!!!

xAbd0o
July 6th, 2011, 12:25 AM
ye5la2 men el shabah 2rbe3en. Lets not judge early. the media today publish anything even if it's wrong.

Montrealers
July 6th, 2011, 12:32 AM
ye5la2 men el shabah 2rbe3en. Lets not judge early. the media today publish anything even if it's wrong.

I hope so :ohno:

Montrealers
July 6th, 2011, 04:38 PM
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/270460_216272001750845_167839949927384_672107_2061498_n.jpg

Montrealers
July 6th, 2011, 07:49 PM
-kYFsP_q9V8

xAbd0o
July 7th, 2011, 12:07 AM
guys did you hear about the bombing heard in Cairo today? it turned out to be a plane flying above the speed of sound over cairo :lol:

Montrealers
July 7th, 2011, 12:41 AM
what kind of plane was it?

xAbd0o
July 7th, 2011, 12:52 AM
well no one knows, here is the story ... http://www.youm7.com/News.asp?NewsID=449279&SecID=65&IssueID=168

there also is an English version of it on Al Ahram Online :)

also before they know what was that sound they posted this article check the comments, people were worried :D
http://www.youm7.com/News.asp?NewsID=449234

xAbd0o
July 7th, 2011, 01:25 AM
هروب 3 مجهولين من معتصمي التحرير يحملون قنبلة غاز عليها "نجمة داود"
توجه صباح اليوم 3 شباب من معتصمى التحرير إلى قسم شرطة قصر النيل لتقديم بلاغ ضد 3 أشخاص مجهولين تصادف وجودهم بميدان التحرير وأكدوا فى بلاغهم أنهم شاهدوا شخصا يحمل كاميرا وآخر يجرى لقاءً مع آخر يحمل فى يده قنبلة مسيلة للدموع لم تستخدم ومرسومة عليها نجمة داود.. وقد ادعى أن قوات الأمن المركزى قامت بإطلاقها على المتظاهرين، مؤكداً أنها تسبب مرض السرطان وأنه توفى العدديد من المتظاهرين بسبب استخدام وزارة الداخلية لتلك الأنواع المسيلة للدموع.

بعد اقتراب شباب التحرير منهم ومحاولة التحدث إليهم فروا هاربين مستقلين سيارة مكروباص.
حيث قرر ثلاثة من شباب معتصمى التحرير هم: عبد المنعم متولى -21 سنة- وأيمن محمد كمال -33 سنة-وشاذلى جابر إبراهيم -35 سنة-التوجه إلى قسم شرطة قصر النيل لتقديم بلاغ بالواقعة واتهام هؤلاء المجهولين منعا لإثارة الفتن. وقد تم تحرير محضر بالواقعة حمل رقم 4221 قسم قصر النيل.
http://gate.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/4/6/90601/%D8%AD%D9%80%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%AB/%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B1/%D9%87%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%A8--%D9%85%D8%AC%D9%87%D9%88%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%86-%D9%85%D9%86-%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%85%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D9%8A%D8%AD%D9%85%D9%84%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%82%D9%86%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A9-%D8%BA%D8%A7%D8%B2-%D8%B9.aspx


:eek2::eek2: we have to get pictures for evidence :yes:

Montrealers
July 7th, 2011, 02:17 AM
Let's wait and see... Not all the people in Tahrir have bombs.

xAbd0o
July 7th, 2011, 02:54 AM
I'm not eeking at the bomb but rather the symbol :| Also I said we need evidence so ...

Montrealers
July 7th, 2011, 04:08 AM
I'm not eeking at the bomb but rather the symbol :| Also I said we need evidence so ...

3ala ra2yk :)

Montrealers
July 8th, 2011, 04:53 PM
http://www.shorouknews.com/uploadedImages/Sections/Politics/Egypt/eshtbakat.jpg
اشتباكات بين الإخوان والمتظاهرون بميدان التحرير..
ومطالب بإخلاء الميدان من الإخوان

أدى الخلاف القائم بين المعتصمين بميدان التحرير وجماعة الإخوان المسلمين إلى اشتباكات بالأيدي وتراشق بالألفاظ والاتهامات استمرت لأكثر من ساعة.

وكان الإخوان المسلمون يحاولون نصب المسرح الخاص بمنصتهم بعيدًا عن المنصة الرئيسية، إلا أن معظم المتظاهرون بالميدان اعترضوا على هذا الأمر وطالبوا جماعة الإخوان بالتراجع عن نصب هذه المنصة، مناشدين إياهم بالاتحاد وعدم الفرقة، غير أن الإخوان المسلمون أصروا على أن تكون لهم منصة خاصة بهم وحدهم.

من جانبهم، هتف المتواجدون بالميدان ضد الإخوان قائلين: "ارحل ارحل يا إخوان .. مش عاوزينك أنت كمان"، وطالبوهم بمغادرة الميدان على الفور متهمين إياهم بالعمل على إشاعة الفتنة والتفرقة بين صفوف المتظاهرين، فيما رد عليهم الإخوان بهتافات من قبيل: "إحنا إيد واحدة إيد واحدة"، و"الشعب والجيش إيد واحدة".

من ناحية أخرى، صّعد بعض المتظاهرون الموقف وأصروا على أن يترك جماعة الإخوان الميدان نهائيًا، مؤكدين على أنهم قادرين على إنجاح هذه المليونية مثل غيرها دون الحاجة إلى مشاركة الإخوان فيها، وسارع البعض في التدخل لمنع تفاقم الأزمة بين طرفي الخلاف، والعمل على تهدئة الأمور، غير أنه ومن المحتمل أن تبوء كل محاولات التهدئة بالفشل.

xAbd0o
July 8th, 2011, 04:59 PM
:uh: do you have a source?

Montrealers
July 8th, 2011, 05:09 PM
:uh: do you have a source?
http://www.shorouknews.com/contentData.aspx?id=498986

Here is what Tahrir looks like today :cheers:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/340918200.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1310138694&Signature=EQbAFqFkCdXQifl2MJLZ%2FGGua5g%3D

and for more picture

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14083602

A sit-in may be considered all over Egypt. No less than 500,000 mo3tasamn are considered to be in Tahrir Square... Protest in Alexandria is occuring also... The main demands is to judge Hosny Mubarak (death sentence)

Montrealers
July 8th, 2011, 05:44 PM
Aywa kda... 7eya de rogoula !!!!!!!

xjWyNWM-y_o

xAbd0o
July 8th, 2011, 05:45 PM
the picture is not work here :(

but yeah I saw live coverage on the ESC. they freaking put music on :nuts:

xAbd0o
July 8th, 2011, 05:47 PM
Aywa kda... 7eya de rogoula !!!!!!!

xjWyNWM-y_o

I don't like this, it threats the stability of the country and government. can't they wait for 3months until the elections?

Montrealers
July 8th, 2011, 05:49 PM
I don't like this, it threats the stability of the country and government. can't they wait for 3months until the elections?

Da tarr el sho7ad2 ya 3am and i don't see what is threatfull... The guys were screaming to not enter the zone and they were screaming, that we're egyptian and who use violence isn't egyptian.

xAbd0o
July 8th, 2011, 06:02 PM
Da tarr el sho7ad2 ya 3am and i don't see what is threatfull... The guys were screaming to not enter the zone and they were screaming, that we're egyptian and who use violence isn't egyptian.

dude they want sharaf to go b/c of the slow action toward criminals judgment. but what they don't freaking know is that sharaf has nothing to do with them. they should ask the criminal court to resign.

if that's not true tel me why do they want sharaf to go, please giving me something that makes sense. I know the guy is pretty slow. he even admits it, but let hope we he do something about it.

Montrealers
July 8th, 2011, 06:04 PM
dude they want sharaf to go b/c of the slow action toward criminals judgment. but what they don't freaking know is that sharaf has nothing to do with them. they should ask the criminal court to resign.

if that's not true tel me why do they want sharaf to go, please giving me something that makes sense. I know the guy is pretty slow. he even admits it, but let hope we he do something about it.

Who said Sharaf must go ? :wtf:
People went to mabna wazeer el dakheleya for the liberation of their comrades.

xAbd0o
July 8th, 2011, 11:54 PM
Who said Sharaf must go ? :wtf:
People went to mabna wazeer el dakheleya for the liberation of their comrades.

well sorry I miss quoted you, but still the other day, Egyptian were asking sharaf to go :nuts:

Montrealers
July 9th, 2011, 05:24 AM
well sorry I miss quoted you, but still the other day, Egyptian were asking sharaf to go :nuts:

Untrue... egyptians were asking the fast trial of the old regime and accused the army of comploting with the old regime against the revolution.

egypt69
July 9th, 2011, 11:45 AM
New protests rage across Egypt

Demanding faster reforms and prosecution of Mubarak era officials, protesters gather to put pressure on military rulers.

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Thousands of demonstrators have flooded Cairo's now-iconic Tahrir Square and other rallying points across the country to demand immediate reforms and swifter prosecution of former officials from the toppled government of Hosni Mubarak.

Friday's "March of the Million", as protesters are calling the new uprising, is expected to be the biggest demonstration since the fall of Mubarak on February 11.

Many Egyptians feel that little has changed since the regime was forced out, and the nationwide protests are the latest calls for the country's interim military rulers to provide a roadmap towards democracy, jobs and infrastructure improvements.

Most of Egypt's political parties and coalitions, including the Muslim Brotherhood, supported widespread calls for the protest to be staged across Egypt. Hundreds of protesters gathered in Suez and Alexandria, among other locations.

"The main frustration here is over the release of the officers accused of killing protesters during the revolution is the main focus of the people here," said Al Jazeera correspondent Sherine Tadros from Suez. "What people here are asking for is justice and faster trials of those responsible for the killings of protesters.

Tadros added that the military is trying to maintain control and show a visible presence in Suez.

"However, they are careful not to overshadow the protesters to make it out in many ways that they are here to stop the protest," Tadros said.

Five months after the revolution, many activists behind Friday's protest say few of the goals of the original uprising have been achieved. One rallying point is the claim that military rulers have failed to provide justice for the victims of the former regime.

Call for action

"Punishment for the killers of the martyrs," read one banner in Tahrir Square, the focal point for protests that drove Mubarak out of office after 30 years in power.

Another placard read "Down with the field marshal", referring to the military commander, Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, who heads the military council which took over after Mubarak.

Tantawi was Mubarak's defence minister for two decades, and some Egyptians believe he represents the continuation of Mubarak's lingering power structure that includes the judiciary, police and civil service.

"We want to change everything. The old regime has corrupted everything. We want to change the government and those in charge, the field marshal as well," Ehab Mohamed Mahmoud, a demonstrator, said.

"The field marshal is an integral part of the old regime," he said.

More than 840 people were killed in police action in the 18 days leading up to Mubarak's departure, and protesters complain that many figures from the Mubarak era have yet to be brought to justice.

Yousef Boutrous Ghali, Mubarak's finance minister, and Rachid Mohammed Rachid, former minister of industry and trade, are on the run from prosecution.

Other members of Mubarak's inner circle, such as Ahmed Fathi Sorour, ex-parliament speaker, and Safwat El Sharif, secretary general of the former ruling National Democratic Party, are also under investigation.

Other key figures are Gamal and Alaa Mubarak, the ousted president's sons, and Mubarak's close confidant Hussien Salam, who has been apprehended in Spain.

http://english.aljazeera.net/video/middleeast/2011/07/20117810134178303.html


Although the protests were very large, they were very peaceful. No police or army was present, and the only injuries were things like fainting from heatstroke, low blood sugar etc. and the Ministry of Health had stationed around 80 Ambulances, makeshift clinics and paramedics and doctors in and around Tahrir Square in the event of an emergency.

Here is a chronological timeline of yesterdays events and what happened: http://english.ahram.org.eg/~/NewsContentP/1/15863/Egypt/Live-updates-A-blow-by-blow-account-of-Egypts-Frid.aspx


Tahrir Square yesterday:

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Alexandria:

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Suez:

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xAbd0o
July 9th, 2011, 03:18 PM
Untrue... egyptians were asking the fast trial of the old regime and accused the army of comploting with the old regime against the revolution.

actually it is true, it was on tahrir tv the other day, like 3 people in a row calling and asking him to resign :nuts:

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 12:46 AM
actually it is true, it was on tahrir tv the other day, like 3 people in a row calling and asking him to resign :nuts:

3 people doesn't make the 500 000 people in tahrir...

xAbd0o
July 10th, 2011, 12:56 AM
not true, I am sure that 3 people were running khalid said page that made the revolution event!

also what is this?
T2tAEfu44jY

also
dtLBxpLJ8ck

^^ read the top rated comment,
الخطاب القادم لشرف انا فهمتكم انا فهمتكم
33 thumbs ups and 2 thumbs down!

what does that suppose to mean?

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 01:16 AM
Well i'm currently watching a talk-show on dream tv.... They're discuissing about who's the real person who's controling Egypt... Magles el 3askary or foreign forces? I mean, why are we ignoring the voice of the people... Why is the army ignoring our voice?

Oh btw.... Canal Suez has been closed .... Closed till demands are achieved.

Yala... Me7na n2sn... Donya zatet...

xAbd0o
July 10th, 2011, 01:23 AM
you wont understand until you join the army. not that I did myself but I think this is the way they do things in the army. you are talking about people who are not in their place. it is not their job end of mater.

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 01:35 AM
you wont understand until you join the army. not that I did myself but I think this is the way they do things in the army. you are talking about people who are not in their place. it is not their job end of mater.

Wada7 aktar.. maf7mtsh

xAbd0o
July 10th, 2011, 01:46 AM
Well, what does the army do? they protect our borders and national security threats, no? therefore they have nothing to do with ruling Egypt. have I said something wrong? It's like asking a vet to build a skyscraper. it's not his job but he surely have knowledge to hold things while the crew whom building the skyscraper are contracted. am I wrong?

It's the same here, in the army things run differently, they don't go around and ask the soldiers for opinion :nuts: leaders are the once that do that. it's a totally different system and ideology.

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 01:59 AM
Well, what does the army do? they protect our borders and national security threats, no? therefore they have nothing to do with ruling Egypt. have I said something wrong? It's like asking a vet to build a skyscraper. it's not his job but he surely have knowledge to hold things while the crew whom building the skyscraper are contracted. am I wrong?

It's the same here, in the army things run differently, they don't go around and ask the soldiers for opinion :nuts: leaders are the once that do that. it's a totally different system and ideology.

Well, that's what should be the principe of the army ;)
Any army in the world must be ready to face the biggest crisis. As for Sharaf, i don't believe he should be the one to blame... Matnsash ano thawragy zay ba2t el sh3b.

xAbd0o
July 10th, 2011, 02:03 AM
well yeah, but the thing is majority of those people don't know that about the army or don't think this way, so they go we're controlled by USA :nuts: conspiracies :nuts::nuts: what's even worse is that those who have less knowledge seem to believe them :ohno:

The thing is you can't just say they're controlled by USA with no prove, if you have one publish it end of matter. also we really should calm down, relax and enjoy the summer while building Egypt, it's only freaking 3 months for Egypt's Sake!

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 02:09 AM
Let's just pray for Egypt :(

egypt69
July 10th, 2011, 02:11 AM
Abdoo, you're right. The army has found itself in a position it definitely does not want to be in They are used to the calm behind the scenes role of influencing the country with it's power and large stake in government/economy. It is definitely not
an institution that can run a country. The revolution woke the army up in it's peaceful sleep, and for the first time, forced it to take a direct active role in managing the country. This has been a headache for the Generals who want to
hand over power as quick as possible but at the same time, preserve the powers and benefits they previously had.

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 02:13 AM
Some results of July 8 protests and sit-ins so far
par We are all Khaled Said, 9 juillet 2011, à 19:59

I have cretaed this note to list all results of July 8 protests and sit-ins all over Egypt. I have done this so that we can all evaluate together whether the protest was needed and whether sit-ins are better to continue or stop.



Here are the results of July 8 protests and sit-ins so far:



- 9 Police Generals and 18 Brigade officers have just been expelled from service as they are accused of killing protesters.



- Head of police in Suez has been fired and there are reports that public prosecutor has ordered his arrest for setting free the Suez police officers accused of killing protesters during the Revolution.



- Alexandria prosecutor orders the arrest of State Security officers accused of torturing to death Syed Belal who was killed less than 3 weeks before the revolution (on 6th January). Read Syed's story here: http://bit.ly/nOrnXn



- Tens of high rank police officers have been nominated for early retirement for their role in the Police corruption for years under Mubarak's regime. This decision was made just a day before the protests started.



- Courts dealing with police officers responsible of killing protesters are being freed to only deal with these cases to avoid the weeks delays between sessions.



- As the sit-in continues, more results will be coming soon

Taken Khaled Sa3eed group :cheers:

MASRI
July 10th, 2011, 04:13 AM
I no longer trust nor expect much from the Armed Forces, nor Essam Sharaf's government. Reform will only come under an elected president and parliament.

5 months passed, and reform has been minimal. Good decisions early on, not much since. We could have voted for a new constitution by next month or September, had we voted for a constituent assembly instead of the Referendum in March!

xAbd0o
July 10th, 2011, 05:01 PM
WOW, check Alexandria,
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It can make a nice banner but I don't think it's a good idea.

egypt69
July 10th, 2011, 05:26 PM
I think it would be accepted if it wasn't for the writing.

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 05:49 PM
I think it would be accepted if it wasn't for the writing.

The same issue about Tahrir square banner.... They'll refuse the banner for purpose, there's no skylines...

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 06:09 PM
Egypt: Army, protesters clash in Suez

CAIRO: Reports of clashes between the military and protesters in the city of Suez were streaming in on Twitter and other social networking sites on Sunday afternoon as demonstrators in Suez continued their push toward the Suez Canal. Activists have reported that some 25 people have been arrested.

“We cut the barb wire that the army has set up,” said Ahmed Manshy, an activist in Suez.

According to al-Shorouk newspaper the head of the Red Sea General Committee Ports General Mohamed Gaballah Abdel Kader said “more than 300 cars and trucks have been stuck between Suez and the Red Sea governorate,” adding that porting and deporting of ships has stopped due to the cutting of the road.

Earlier on Sunday, protesters numbering over 1,000 blocked the Ain Sokhna-Suez road leading to the city. Eye witnesses confirmed that a number of trucks and private vehicles are stuck on the highway, but there doesn’t seem to be complaining. A number of reports even indicate that the drivers are in solidarity with the protests.

This all comes as the protesters late on Saturday threatened to cut access to the Suez Canal, but stopped short of breaching the canal headquarters after apparently discussing the matter with the military in charge of the area. But according to Abdel Kader, the protesters have refused to enter dialogue over the matter with any military officials.

The majority of Egyptian activists online have thrown their support behind the actions in Suez, although a few have spoken out against attempts to take the canal. Farrah Saafan, a journalist, said that “irrational escalation is not the way to go! The public opinion will denounce the revolution more as soon as they hear the words ‘suez canal’.”

Zeinobia, a leading blogger, was one of the few activists not to support the escalation of the protest and sit-in in Suez, saying that “we should have seen this coming, threatening to cut or even touch the Suez canal is a real red line.”

** Manar Ammar and Joseph Mayton contributed to this report.

BM

http://bikyamasr.com/wordpress/?p=35887&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
I agree with Zeinobia

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 06:11 PM
Egypt's military council to respond to protesters within hours, say Ahram Online sources

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces is considering releasing a new communique within hours in response to sit-ins in Tahrir Square and across the country, an informed source has told Ahram Online. It is not clear yet whether the statement will be published on the military council's Facebook page or will be read out by one of its members on state TV.

Prime Minister Essam Sharaf gave a short statement yesterday evening that intended to ease the tense atmosphere Egypt has been witnessing in the last two weeks. Sharaf's words, however, were ill-received positively by the protesters who have since called for a general strike in the coming days.

The military council are yet to respond to the demands put foward by the protesters and directed the interim rulers, not the government.

The General Freedoms Committee, which is part of the National Consensus Conference sponsored by the government, announced today that it supports the demands of the protesters, confirming that it agreed on the drafting of a new constitution, the formation of a civilian presidential council and an advisory council with civilian and military members.

According to MENA, Egypt's state news agency, Mohamed Fadaly, the head of the committee, announced that General Sami Enan, the Egyptian army's chief of staff, has commissioned the General Freedoms Committee to draft a new constitution.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/~/NewsContent/1/64/16046/Egypt/Politics-/Egypts-military-council-to-respond-to-protesters-w.aspx

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 06:26 PM
رصد| مصر | عاجل : أنباء عن تعديلات وزارية تجري قريباً وتشمل إقالة وزير الداخلية منصور العيسوي . #RNN


Soon, there will be a reshuffle of our gvt... no clue if Essam sharaf will be kicked too.

Montrealers
July 10th, 2011, 06:36 PM
السيد وزير الداخلية لوكالة أنباء الشرق الأوسط : سأنفذ قرار إنهاء خدمة الضباط المتهمين بقتل المتظاهرين وفقا للقانون

القاهرة فى 10 يوليو / أ ش أ / قال السيد منصور عيسوى وزير الداخلية إنه التقى صباح اليوم رئيس مجلس الوزراء الدكتور عصام شرف وأكد له أنه سينفذ القرار الخاص بالضباط المتهمين بقتل المتظاهرين وفقا للقانون.

وأكد عيسوى فى تصريحات خاصة للزميل أحمد عبدالله مندوب وكالة أنباء الشرق الأوسط والزميل يسرى البدرى مندوب المصرى اليوم أن القرارات الخاصة بالضباط الماثلين أمام المحاكم المختلفة بتهمة قتل المتظاهرين فى أيدى وزارة الداخلية،مشيرا الى أنه يجرى حاليا إتخاذ الإجراءات القانونية بشأنها.

وشدد وزير الداخلية على أنه منذ يومه الأول بالوزارة تعهد بعدم إصدار أى قرار مخالف للقانون، وأنه مستعد لتقديم استقالته من وزارة الداخلية فى أى وقت إذا شعر بأن هناك قرارات ستمرر دون رغبته، ولكنه أكد أن كل القرارات التى صدرت والتى ستصدر من وزارة الداخلية فى الفترة المقبلة ستكون وفقا للقانون.

وأشار عيسوى الى أن حركة تنقلات الشرطة سوف تصدر يوم الأربعاء المقبل، وسترضى كافة فئات الشعب المصرى.

وحول ما أعلنه الائتلاف العام لضباط الشرطة عن وجود حالات فساد داخل أروقة وزارة الداخلية، أكد عيسوى أنه طلب من أعضاء الائتلاف تقديم أى مستندات تدل على تلك الحالات لاتخاذ الإجراءات القانونية قبلها بشكل فورى، مشيرا الى أنه فى حالة عجزهم عن تقديم تلك المستندات فسيتم اتخاذ الإجراءات القانونية حيالهم بإعتبارهم ارتكبوا جريمة سب وقذف فى حق أشخاص لا يملكون أى أدلة على اتهامهم.

وأضاف وزير الداخلية أنه أحال 3 من ضباط الشرطة الى التفتيش للتحقيق معهم بسبب قيامهم بالظهور فى القنوات الفضائية واتهامهم لبعض من ضباط الشرطة بالفساد المالى دون أى أدلة أو سند قانونى، مطالبا الضباط بتقديم ما لديهم من مستندات الى الجهات المختصة مثل جهاز الكسب غير المشروع، الذى سيحقق بدوره فى هذه الوقائع

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=216415531735451

egypt69
July 10th, 2011, 06:51 PM
This is what we learned from the revolution. The only way to make the government do something is by protesting en masse. The sit in must continue untill each and every demand is met.

xAbd0o
July 10th, 2011, 10:49 PM
Yeah, they need to learn that Egypt has changed and will never be the same, at least for sometime.


Btw for the banner, never mind the text I can sort that out :) I don't want to talk kinda off-topic but should we have it next Friday or on 25th of this month as an anniversary for half a year since the revolution?

egypt69
July 11th, 2011, 03:08 AM
Good idea. Just remove the text post it here and i'll submit it and see if they accept.

xAbd0o
July 11th, 2011, 03:15 AM
I posted it in the Egypt Banner thread in the skyahwa. BTW if you think the sand is burnt let me know. I tried to reduce the brightness of sun on the buildings :)

egypt69
July 11th, 2011, 01:04 PM
Political coalition calls for a million-strong protest and march on Tuesday

The Second Egyptian Revolution Coalition on Sunday called for a million-strong protest and march aimed at escalating the situation to take place on Tuesday, 12 July in Tahrir Square. The same group had called for the protest on 8 July in the same location, where a sit-in is ongoing.

On its Facebook page, the coalition said that it began coordinating with political groups protesting in Tahrir Square and planned to emphasize their presence by protesting on days other than Fridays.

The planned march from Tahrir Square to the cabinet building aims to achieve the demands laid out at the protest that began on 8 July.

The statement said that the march will begin at 5 pm, in order to enable protesters to go to work in the morning.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/476177


PM assures demonstrators of a cabinet reshuffle

The Second Egyptian Revolution Coalition on Sunday called for a million-strong protest and march aimed at escalating the situation to take place on Tuesday, 12 July in Tahrir Square. The same group had called for the protest on 8 July in the same location, where a sit-in is ongoing.

On its Facebook page, the coalition said that it began coordinating with political groups protesting in Tahrir Square and planned to emphasize their presence by protesting on days other than Fridays.

The planned march from Tahrir Square to the cabinet building aims to achieve the demands laid out at the protest that began on 8 July.

The statement said that the march will begin at 5 pm, in order to enable protesters to go to work in the morning.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/476177

Ruling military council studies demonstrators' demands

A military source said Sunday that the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) is studying all of the demands made by protesters in order to develop mechanisms for implementing them legally.

The source added that the council is reconsidering altering the maximum and minimum wage so as to guarantee a decent life for citizens, as well as ending the corruption that began with the now-dissolved National Democratic Party.

According to the source, the military has decided that expediting the trials of Mubarak regime remnants lies in the hands of the judiciary. The SCAF believes that these trials could have an adverse impact on Egypt, especially regarding the repatriation of money siphoned abroad, as the countries to which such money was sent will not reimburse it until fair trials take place.

The source said that the military council plans to meet more with all political groups in order to lead the country safely during this critical period, and would issue statements confirming its support for the demands of the revolution.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/476266

Montrealers
July 11th, 2011, 09:25 PM
I was watching Mohamed el Muslimany show yesterday and he talked about USA putting 4000 ethiopans troops in Abyei with the assistance of 4000 egyptian troops there... The main issue is to escalate a conflict between both nation and create a war due to the Nile issue.... Kinda scary if you want my opinion... But not sure if it'll happen ...

The reshuffle expected wednesday is considered as being the biggest one in the egyptian interior ministry history....

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 01:21 AM
GUYS OPEN NOW KANAT EL MASREYA.... OMG


ta7zir rasmy mn el geish.... Tomorrow expected million-man march is considering a massive lock-out.

egypt69
July 12th, 2011, 01:28 AM
What happened :uh: I just opened now and nothing is on.

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 01:36 AM
Yeah... It just finished now... But stick around Al Masreya..... They're constantly doing talk show about tomorrow expected event... As for our army... They said any interuption of the Canal Suez will be considered a red line.

egypt69
July 12th, 2011, 01:42 AM
Fair enough, I'm for all the protests and sit-ins in Tahrir, but doing something to the Suez canal is too far. These protests are supposed to be peaceful.

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 01:53 AM
Robert Fisk: Something has gone badly wrong with the Egyptian revolution http://ind.pn/niuT1J #Egypt #Tahrir #Jul8

MASRI
July 12th, 2011, 02:34 AM
I support any initative by the protestors until all demands of the revolution are met.

The current transitional period is led by a weak interim government, and a central institution serving as the backbone of every other public/state institution (The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces.)

Thus, leading Egypt back to economic productivity beings with delievering on the demands of the revolution with a clear and concise roadmap precisely explaining how and when the demands will be met (only demands that are not in need of a democratically-elected goverment.)

1) Fair and Public Trials for accussed members of the overthrown regime.
2) Independent Judiciary (with a clear set of initatives to accomplish Judicial reform)
3) Police Reform (a human rights activist/civil Interior Minisiter to reform the Police)
4) NO MILITARY TRIALS for civilians
5) Institutional State/Public Sector Reform
6) Declaration of inalienable rights (currently in the works)
7) Elected Governors
8) Elected Municipalities
9) Elected Parliament (Late September)
10) New Constitution
11) Elected President

It's simple, in premise, really.

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 02:38 AM
BREAKING NEWS : Another gaz pipeline in Al Arish connecting Israel just blasted.

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 05:47 AM
للمرة الرابعة: تفجير خط أنابيب تصدير الغاز المصري لإسرائيل

قالت مصادر أمنية إن تفجيرا جديدا وقع في وقت مبكر من صباح الثلاثاء في خط أنابيب الغاز الطبيعي المصري المؤدي إلى إسرائيل بالقرب من مدينة العريش عاصمة محافظة شمال سيناء.

وقال شاهد عيان لرويترز في اتصال هاتفي إن ألسنة لهب ترتفع فوق الخط، وأضاف :«أرى ألسنة لهب ارتفاعها حوالي 30 مترا فوق الخط».

وقبل هذا التفجير وقعت ثلاثة تفجيرات في خط الأنابيب الذي يؤدي إلى الأردن أيضاً منذ فبراير، ووقع الانفجار السابق وهو الثالث قبل أسبوع.

وقالت المصادر الأمنية إن الانفجار الجديد وقع في منطقة الطويل بالقرب من مطار العريش.

وقال مصدر إن محافظ شمال سيناء السيد عبد الوهاب مبروك ومدير الأمن اللواء صالح المصري انتقلا إلى مكان التفجير لمتابعة جهود تبريد الخط والبحث عن مرتكبي التفجير، ويحتاج تبريد الخط وبدء إصلاحه لأيام.

ويواجه تصدير الغاز لإسرائيل معارضة شعبية واسعة داخل مصر، فيما يخضع الرئيس السابق حسني مبارك، ووزير البترول الأسبق سامح فهمي، ومسؤولون آخرون للمحاكمة بتهمة تصدير الغاز لإسرائيل بأسعار أقل من السوق العالمية، مما تسبب في خسائر لمصر تزيد قيمتها على 714 مليون دولار، ومكّن رجل الأعمال حسين سالم، المحتجز في إسبانيا، من تحقيق أرباح مالية على حساب الدولة.

وتحصل إسرائيل على 40% من حاجتها من الغاز الطبيعي من مصر بمقتضى اتفاق استند إلى معاهدة السلام التي وقعها البلدان في 1979.


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/node/476648

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 04:34 PM
Ruling military council says will not allow 'power hijack'

The ruling Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) on Tuesday said it will not allow anyone to "hijack power.”

Revolution youth, meanwhile, have called for the removal of Prime Minister Essam Sharaf and the appointment of presidential hopeful Mohamed ElBaradei to replace him.

Assistant Defense Minister Mohsen al-Fangary, a member of the ruling SCAF, said necessary procedures will be adopted to prevent any threats to the nation, in accordance with the law.

In a statement aired on Egyptian Television, Fangary said the SCAF will not give up its role of managing the country’s affairs at this critical stage of Egypt's history.

Fangary said the SCAF is committed to managing the country during the transition period. Parliamentary elections will be conducted, followed by the drafting of a constitution and then the election of a president.

Fangary added that non-peaceful protests harm citizens’ interests and hamper the operation of state institutions, which causes serious damages to the state’s interests.

The expression of free opinion is a right guaranteed for all within limits of the law, he said.

The SCAF will continue to support Prime Minister Essam Sharaf, he added.

A bill of principles will be prepared to help choose a panel to write a new constitution for the country. These principles will be issued as part of a constitutional declaration after all powers and parties approve them, said Fangary.

The 25 January Revolutionary Youth Coalition, meanwhile, said on Tuesday it has agreed with most coalitions and youth movements in Tahrir on Mohamed ElBaradei as a replacement for Sharaf.

Daily newspaper Al-Shorouk reported that, following prolonged negotiations with revolution youth, ElBaradei agreed to be nominated in replacement of Sharaf.

The protesters will announce this step in a press conference to be held at 3 pm on Tuesday.

Egyptian media professionals on Sunday called for the formation of a civilian presidential council to run the country’s affairs during the current interim period.

In a statement, the Maspiro Revolutionaries movement criticized SCAF and accused it of creating the illusion that it was protecting the revolution.

"After closely following the events of the Egyptian revolution for more than six months, we feel the gravity of the crime we committed when, after carrying out our revolution, we handed over its leadership to those who keep us under the illusion that they’re protecting it," the statement said.


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/476751

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 04:49 PM
BELIEVE IT OR NOT !!!!!!


خطة انقلاب «جمال» علي أبيه

مازالت الحقائق تنكشف عن خطة جمال مبارك للانقلاب علي والده المخلوع حيث زعمت إسرائيل أنها سجلت محادثات دارت بين الرئيس السابق والموساد الإسرائيلي بداية من 6 يناير الماضي حتي خلعه في 11 فبراير والتي صدرت بها نشرة إحاطة أمنية إسرائيلية وجدت نسخة منها طريقها للقاهرة لتكشف لنا أن ثمة شرخا كبيرا قد حدث في بيت «المخلوع» مما دفع الابن جمال للتخطيط قبل يناير 2011 لعزل «مبارك» والانفراد بالسلطة في فبراير بمساعدة زكريا عزمي وصفوت الشريف وفتحي سرور وحبيب العادلي وأنس الفقي.

رواية أخطر تزعم أن آخرين في الحكومة كانوا علي علم بهذا الانقلاب وأن عمر سليمان عارض وهدد المخططين فدبروا له مؤامرة اغتيال حقيقية وليست صدفة ، بل إن مخطط عزل «مبارك» واغتيال «سليمان».

واقعة أخري غريبة يحتدم الجدال حولها قبل أن تبدأ لكننا من النشرة الجديدة علمنا أن المحادثات التي جرت بين الرئيس المخلوع وبين تامير باردو رئيس الموساد الإسرائيلي في صباح 6 يناير الماضي قد حملت لمبارك أنباء المؤامرة التي تحاك ضده في بيته وهو ما دفع مبارك أن يأخذ موقفا سلبيا من «تامير» بعد أول حديث رسمي بينهما، فقد كان «باردو» في أول يوم عمل له رئيسا للموساد واعتقد أنه بكشفه المؤامرة ربما يحصل علي صداقة «مبارك» غير أن النتيجة كانت عكسية.

النشرة الجديدة تدعي أن «مبارك» علم من صديقه بنيامين بن إليعازر الشهير بـ(فؤاد) مفتاح الاتصال بينه وبين إسرائيل بشكل عام والموساد بشكل خاص وشكيا له عما حدث وأطلعه علي الحديث الذي دار بينه وبين تامير باردو رئيس الموساد فكانت المفاجأة أن «بن إليعازر» كان يعلم بذلك المخطط ورد علي «مبارك» علي الفور معلنا له أنها الحقيقة، وأنه يجب أن يأخذ الاحتياط من بيته فقد قرر الابن جمال مع عدد كبير من أركان حكمه تنحيته في مؤامرة مدبرة بشرعية كاملة وأنها ستمر علي الشارع المصري والعالمي دون أن يشعر أحد!

الحديث تطرق أيضًا لمخاطر ما يحدث علي الانترنت وكانت المفاجأة أن «بن إليعازر» أخطر مبارك بخبر سيئ من وجهة نظره فقد أعلن له أن الحاخام عوفاديا يوسف الصديق المخلص لمبارك يبلغ الرئيس تحياته الحارة ويترجاه أن يأخذ حذره في شهر فبراير لأن هناك أمرا إلهيا جللا سيحدث في مصر فيقرر مبارك الاتصال فورا بعوفاديا.

وادعت النشرة أن «مبارك» كان دائم الاتصال بعوفاديا يوسف لسؤاله عن الطالع والمستقبل

وأنه تفاجأ يومها بتنبؤ حكماء التوراة بأنه قد ظهر لهم تاريخ سيعد علامة دينية لا تقبل الجدل في تطبيقها علي مصر، وأنهم بتجربة الأرقام والتواريخ باللغة العربية الدارجة وكذلك عن طريق تجربة الأرقام العربية وحدها مع التاريخ فيما يخص شهر فبراير 2011 قد وجدوا أمرا حدث في إسرائيل في 3 مواضع فارقة فقد حددوا بنفس هذا العلم يوم وفاة الرئيس الراحل عبد الناصر ثم عرفوا بموعد اغتيال السادات وكان الأخير اسحق رابين الذين تنبأوا له وأن أمرا مشابها علي وشك الحدوث لمبارك.

جملتان تأكد بالبحث الديني أنهما مرتبطتان بتاريخ يوم 11 فبراير 2011 ظهرتا لهم الأولي معناها كلمة: (سيأتي) وقد فسروها بشكل نهائي علي أن الله في هذا اليوم سيلقي بظله الحقيقي علي أرض مصر ، أما الجملة الثانية التي ظهرت لهم في التواريخ فهي: (لا إله إلا الله).

والبحث من واقع رسم عوفاديا يوسف يمكن أن نتفهمه ويمكن لآخرين ألا يشعروا به فبوضع الحروف والأرقام بأشكال رسومية معينه تظهر بالفعل علي الأقل حقيقتان لا جدال حولهما الأولي أن كلمة (يافو) بالعبرية تعني بالفعل (سيأتي) وأن 2011 كحروف أو حتي 11 / 2 تؤدي في علم التنبؤ بالأرقام لكلمة: (الله) وذلك بوضع الحروف كما هي ثم توصيلها بعضها ببعض ويمكن لأي شخص التجربة ليصدق أو أن يطالع نظرية حكماء اليهود في الصورة.

نعود للقصة سريعا لنجد أن التسجيلات تزعم أن صفوت الشريف علي حد ما جاء بها قد أخطر تل أبيب بشكل أو بآخر لا نعرفه بعد بشكل وموعد خطة جمال مبارك لتنحية والده والتي تقوم علي تشكيل مجلس رئاسي يترأسه جمال مبارك في الكواليس وفي مرحلة في شهر فبراير سيأمرون الدكتور حاتم الجبلي وزير الصحة كي يعلن عن مرض عارض أصاب مبارك يمنعه من أداء مهمته وأن رئيس مجلس الشعب الدكتور فتحي سرور طبقا للدستور المصري سيتولي إدارة البلاد وفي وقت لاحق لن يتجاوز 30 يومًا سيدعو لانتخابات رئاسية عاجلة.

في هذا التوقيت سيؤدي «الشريف» و«عزمي» و«عز» دورا آخر لا يقل أهمية حيث سيتم الدفع بجمال مبارك كمرشح الحزب الوطني الوحيد وبشكل عادي حيث إن البلاد ستكون معرضة للخطر في عدم وجود الرئيس.

أما دور «عز» فكان توفير التمويل المالي الكامل مقابل أن يصبح نائبا للرئيس بينما تزعم معلومات تل أبيب حاليا أن المجموعة كانت بعد تنصيب جمال ستعزل «عز» بعد الاستيلاء علي أرصدته علي أساس أنهم سيورطونه في قضية أمن قومي وتحديدا قضية تجسس ملفقة.

سنياريو الانقلاب شارك فيه أيضًا أحد صحفيي النظام حيث طلب من جمال منصب وزير الإعلام فوافق وطبقا لمعلومات تل أبيب وقع جمال مبارك بالفعل قرارا بدون تاريخ لتعيين الصحفي وزيرا للإعلام في مكتب وزير الداخلية حبيب العادلي.

المثير أن خط سير المخطط يثبت أن الخيانة كانت عاملا أساسيا في تعاملهم مع بعضهم البعض فكانت القصة بعد استقرار الأمور ستقضي بتنحية «عزمي» وتولي «الفقي» منصبه في الرئاسة بجانب جمال مبارك.

أما الحديث عن صحة القرار وحقيقة صدوره فقد سلمه الصحفي طواعية لجهة سيادية في مارس 2011.

وكان «العادلي» هو الذراع المنفذة والضامنة لتنفيذ بنود الخطة وفي المعلومات الإسرائيلية الجديدة والمثيرة كان قد أخذ وعدا من جمال بتوليته رئيسا لجهاز المخابرات العامة لأول مرة في تاريخ الجهاز حيث يكون رئيسه من جهاز الشرطة، وفي المقابل سيقوم «العادلي» بالتخلص من العدو الأكبر لهم وهو عمر سليمان رئيس جهاز المخابرات والذي علم بالموضوع وأخطر به الأب «مبارك».

الجدير بالذكر هنا أن المعلومات الإسرائيلية تفيد أن سليمان كان أول علمه بالقصة من مصادر إسرائيلية أعطته دليلا لا يقبل الشك وهو تسجيل حصلوا عليه لنص حوار جري بين جمال مبارك وضباط من الموساد كانوا في مصر في يناير 2011، وأنهم تقابلوا معه وهم في طريق عودتهم بأحد فنادق الترانزيت بمطار القاهرة حيث طلب منهم مباشرة مساندته للسيطرة علي الأمور في مصر غير أنهم لم يكن لهم صلاحيات الموافقة وطلبوا منه المهلة لنقل طلبه إلي تل أبيب وهو الطلب الذي لم يردوا عليه أبدا.

الأغرب أن معلومات إسرائيل المحددة عن ذلك الانقلاب الذي خطط له الابن جمال أفادت أنه بالاشتراك مع «عز» فتحا حسابا بنكيا مفتوحا في أحد بنوك حي مصر الجديدة تحت حساب مصاريف الانقلاب وأن ذلك الحساب مول معظمه من «عز »، إلا أن السلطات المصرية اكتشفت هذا الحساب وتحقق حاليا بالفعل غير أنه نسب لجمال مبارك لأنه هو فعلا صاحب الحساب من الاسم.

المزعج في تفريغ التسجيلات الإسرائيلية معلومة أن دبلوماسيا مصريا كان يعمل في سفارة مصر بتل أبيب علم بالقصة مبكرا في ديسمبر 2010 من بنيامين بن إليعازر فأرسل بها لوزير خارجيته ساعتها أحمد أبو الغيط غير أن الأخير بدلا من أن يكافئ الدبلوماسي الشاب ويرقيه قام بمعاقبته ومزق أصل التقرير عن خطة جمال الابن لتنحية مبارك وكأن أبو الغيط بين المجموعة لكن اسمه لم يظهر إلا في تلك النقطة فقط.

معلومة أخري لها أصل أن يوفال ديسكين رئيس جهاز الشين بيت الإسرائيلي (الأمن الداخلي) كان قد اتصل بوزير الداخلية «العادلي» وسأله شخصيا عن مدي علمه بخطة الابن جمال غير أن «العادلي» أعلن لديسكين أن المعلومة شأن مصري.

معلومة أخري لها أصل تزعم أن «مبارك» عندما فكر في تعيين عمر سليمان كان ينتقم من ابنه جمال وطبقا لشهادة بنيامين بن إليعازر صديق مبارك الذي كان معه علي مدار الساعات الأخيرة من حكم مبارك ففي خطاب مبارك الذي أعلن فيه تعيين عمر سليمان كان معه ورقتان الأولي باسم جمال مبارك تأسيسا علي الوكالة الدستورية بإدارة شئون البلاد والثانية التعيين الشرعي لأقوي رجل في مصر وقتها وأنه اختار عمرسليمان في الثواني الأخيرة قبل أن يعلن القرار انتقاما من «جمال».

إن محاولة اغتيال «سليمان» في منطقة منشية البكري في 29 يناير الماضي عقب حلفه اليمين الدستورية نكتشف أنها كانت دليلا علي العداء الذي تحول لشخصي بين جمال ومن معه من مجموعة فاسدة وبين سليمان فدبروا له عملية اغتيال حقيقية للتخلص منه وليس كما يتوهم البعض من أنها قصة عادية خلال الأحداث التي جرت.

سليمان بدوره نقل ما يدور من مؤامرة لمعظم الجهات الوطنية الشرعية بالبلاد حيث تتضح لنا معلومة غريبة وهي أن مجموعة «جمال» علي طريقة تفكير الهواة حسبت كل شيء ولم تحسب أن هناك جيشا له قادة وشعب يطالب بحقه.

التحقيقات مع «سرور» تحقيقات مثيرة أكدت خطة الانقلاب التي كان يعد لها «جمال» الابن وربما تؤلف منها القصص حيث حكي الرجل كل شيء دون ضغط من أحد كما حكي «الشريف» نقس القصة وأكدها «الفقي» وهو يبكي معترفا وفي الحقيقة شاركه الأمر «عزمي» الذي أكد بالأسماء وجود أشخاص آخرين كانوا سيقدمون العون كل علي حسب دوره فمثلا كان الدكتور محمود محيي الدين الذي ترك الحكومة والتحق بالبنك الدولي سيساند «جمال» بقروض ومساندة سياسية من موقعه وتمكن «جمال» من السيطرة علي مقاليد الأمور ولو من الناحية الاقتصادية وكان «العادلي» سيؤمن للوريث مصر كلها كجبهة داخلية.

المثير أيضا أن التسجيلات الإسرائيلية الحديثة أشارت إلي أن الإدارة الأمريكية هي الأخري كانت علي علم بما يدبر له الابن جمال وأن الحديث التليفوني الذي جري بين مبارك والرئيس الأمريكي باراك أوباما في مساء 28 يناير 2011 والذي استمر لمدة 30 دقيقة قد تناول خطة الابن ورفض أمريكا له وهو ما دفع مبارك الأب لطرد «جمال» خارج غرفة المكتب الذي تحدث منه مع الرئيس الأمريكي.

الأغرب أن أدواراً أخري كان قد اتفق عليها بين المجموعة ومن التسجيلات الإسرائيلية عن القصة تظهر معلومة أن وزير التجارة رشيد محمد رشيد مثلا كان سيتولي تأمين شكل «جمال» علي الساحة العربية ، حتي حسين سالم رجل الأعمال الهارب كان قد أقنع «جمال» بأنه سيساعده لدي رؤساء العالم خاصة في دول شرق أوروبا حيث سطوة حسين سالم.

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 05:29 PM
Egypt sentences former PM Nazif to 1year in jail, ex-Interior Minister Adli to 5 years & ex-Finance Minister Boutros-Ghali to 10 years

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 06:19 PM
Supreme Judicial Council rules corruption trials to be aired live



CAIRO: The Egyptian Supreme Judiciary Council decided Tuesday to move the trials of former regime figures and officers accused of killing of protesters to larger courts to allow for more public attendance, as well as air the trials live outside the courthouse.

It was not immediately clear whether court sessions would also be broadcast on public channels.

The council, headed by recently-appointed Judge Hossam Al-Gheriyani, also decided to ban judges and members of the general prosecution from giving media statements or appearing on television.

The council further decided to dedicate certain judicial constituencies to cases of corruption and the killing of protestors to allow for consecutive hearings to speed up the process, also demanding that judges issue each ruling accompanied by its reasoning summary.

Protesters nationwide have escalated demands for the swift trials of ousted regime figures and police officers accused of killing protestors as well as the cleansing of the judiciary from the "remnants" of the old regime.

In one court hearing last month, some families and friends of the more than 840 people who died in the uprising were not allowed into the courtroom because of the number of lawyers, activists and journalists there.

Scuffles broke out between security staff and those prevented from entering.

The Council also urged the Egyptian people to protect the courts and judges so that the trials would take place in a fair atmosphere. –Additional reporting by Reuters

http://www.thedailynewsegypt.com/egypt/supreme-judicial-council-rules-corruption-trials-to-be-aired-live.html

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 08:30 PM
Al-Shorouk reports that Tantawi will meet tomorrow with "heads of political parties".

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Suspicious explosion that happened in Al-Arish seems to be a counter-revolution.... One of the proof revealed is that the blast occured with the same technic that happened with the last ones (4 times) since the begining of the revolution.

xAbd0o
July 12th, 2011, 08:58 PM
what do you think if Essam Sharaf and the armed forces [only those whom are head of Egypt today] went to el tahriri today and listened to the people. they know what they want and take notes listen to others point of view and leave? why can't this happen?

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 09:07 PM
what do you think if Essam Sharaf and the armed forces [only those whom are head of Egypt today] went to el tahriri today and listened to the people. they know what they want and take notes listen to others point of view and leave? why can't this happen?

Too dangerous when you're in a period of revolution... Imagine.. I'm just supposing if something went wrong to Tantawi while visiting Tahrir Square... Yeb2a kda sulta de3efet met mara... The first step to be taken is the removal of Sharaf for El Baradei.... Not sure though if it'll happen...

xAbd0o
July 12th, 2011, 09:09 PM
DUUDE, if they exchange sharaf for el baradei, then it's only 3 months for el baradei and he can't become a president. also they can do something about security :)

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 09:13 PM
DUUDE, if they exchange sharaf for el baradei, then it's only 3 months for el baradei and he can't become a president. also they can do something about security :)

Aywa bas el nas mosamema beta3'er Essam Sharaf :(

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 09:56 PM
Egyptian activists demand investigation of Omar Suleiman and Amr Moussa

Activists and lawyers on Tuesday filed a complaint with the attorney general, demanding an investigation of certain members of the deposed Mubarak regime they accuse of political corruption and involvement in a deal to sell Egyptian natural gas to Israel.

The filers allege that former intelligence chief Omar Suleiman, former Foreign Minister Amr Moussa and former Prime Minister Atef Ebeid abused their powers to pressure the government to pass a deal favorable to business tycoon Hussein Salem, a confidant of ousted President Hosni Mubarak.

Judicial sources say that documents proving the officials’ involvement are attached to the complaint.


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/476679

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 10:00 PM
«البرادعى»: هدف الشعب وجيشه واحد.. لكن الحكومة لا تمتلك صلاحيات

قال الدكتور محمد البرادعى، المدير السابق للوكالة الدولية للطاقة الذرية، المرشح المحتمل لانتخابات الرئاسة، إنه ليس لديه شك فى أن هدف الشعب وجيشه الوطنى واحد، وأضاف، تعليقاً على بيان المجلس العسكرى، الثلاثاء ، أن الشعب والجيش هدفهما الوصول بمصر لبر الأمان فى هذه المرحلة الدقيقة من تاريخها، لكن تحقيق ذلك أصبح يعتمد الآن أكثر من أى وقت مضى على وحدة الشعب، وأن يجد ما يجمعه ويعلو على ما يفرقه.

وقال البرادعى فى بيان أصدره الثلاثاء: «لقد بذل الدكتور عصام شرف أقصى جهده لتحقيق مطالب الثورة، لكن من الواضح أن ما تم تحقيقه حتى الآن يقل عن توقعات الشعب، وقبل أن نلقى باللوم على الدكتور شرف - الذى أكن له كل احترام - علينا أن نسأل أنفسنا: لماذا لم تنجح هذه الحكومة فى تحقيق مطالب الثورة؟».

وأضاف البيان أن الحكومة الحالية تفتقر للصلاحيات، ومن ثم فنقطة البداية التى بدونها يصبح تغيير الحكومة عبثياً هى أن تحظى الحكومة بالصلاحيات اللازمة لتحقيق مطالب الثورة، وأكد البرادعى أن «أولوية مصر الآن تشكيل حكومة إنقاذ وطنى ذات صلاحيات تحقق مطالب الشعب وتعيد الأمن، وتحاسب من قتلوا المتظاهرين ومن أفسدوا، وتتبنى سياسات اقتصادية يشعر بها المواطن العادى وتدير خطوات المرحلة الانتقالية وفقاً لجدول زمنى وقواعد واضحة للجميع».

وقال: «الذى سيغير الأوضاع المتردية فى مصر هو الشعب المصرى نفسه وليس الأشخاص»

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/node/476667

:cheers:

Montrealers
July 12th, 2011, 10:49 PM
«شرف» يبدأ مشاورات التعديل الوزاري.. ويشكل مجلس إدارة صندوق الشهداء


قال السفير محمد حجازي، المتحدث الرسمي باسم مجلس الوزراء، إن الدكتور عصام شرف، رئيس الوزراء، بدأ بالفعل مشاورات تشكيل الحكومة الجديدة منذ صباح الثلاثاء، دون الإفصاح عن عدد الحقائب الوزارية التي سيتم تغييرها أو الوزراء الجدد المرشحين لتولي الحقائب الوزارية الجديدة.

وأضاف أن رئيس الوزراء التقى عددًا من أبناء السويس، وأنه يعتزم زيارة محافظة السويس قريبا.

وأكد حجازي أن «شرف» أصدر قرارًا بتشكيل صندوق الرعاية الصحية والاجتماعية لأسر الشهداء برئاسته واللواء محسن الفنجري نائبا له وعضوية الدكتور علي جمعة، مفتي الجمهورية، والدكتور محمود سليمان، أستاذ جراحة العيون، والدكتور حاتم خضر، وممثلون عن وزارت الصحة والتضامن والمالية والقوى العاملة.

وأشار إلى أنه تم بالفعل صرف معاش شهري قيمته 1500 جنيه لـ530 من أسر الشهداء، كما تم تسجيل ألف مصاب خلال الأسبوع الماضي، وسيتم صرف إعانة 5 آلاف جنيه في حالة العجز الكلي وألفي جنيه في حالة عدم وجود عجز.

وفي شأن آخر، أجرى الدكتور عصام شرف اتصالا بالسلطات الأمنية المختصة للإفراج عن المحتجز محمد زين العابدين، لكونه شقيق أحد الشهداء.


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/node/476721

:cheers::cheers:

Montrealers
July 13th, 2011, 02:27 AM
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Montrealers
July 13th, 2011, 06:29 PM
Egypt's military announces committee on constitutional principles to little fanfare

In an unexpected concession to liberal and secular activists, the ruling Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) on Tuesday announced plans to form a committee to establish core constitutional principles before parliamentary elections.

Buried in a televised address from SCAF spokesperson General Mohsen al-Fangary that enraged protesters with its threatening tone, the announcement marks the military's first step to address the increasingly divisive battle over when and how a constitution will be drafted.

Osama al-Ghazaly Harb, founder of the Democratic Front Party, said that SCAF Vice President Samy Annan and three high-ranking military officers - SCAF legal adviser Major General Mamdouh Shahin, Major General Mohamed al-Assar and Major General Ismail Etman - met with him and representatives from Tagammu Party, Egyptian Liberals and the Egyptian Democratic Party, among others, on 6 July.

During the meeting, “[Annan] asked me to begin deliberations about new amendments for the constitution,” Harb said. He said he was tasked with setting up a committee to discuss the growing number of draft proposals for constitutional principles.

The panel is likely to produce a written list of constitutional amendments that could be included in an SCAF declaration, according to Mohamed Nour Farahat, a legal history and philosophy professor at Zagazig University who is expected to sit on the committee.

These amendments, focused on human rights guarantees and based on topics with broad consensus among Egypt’s multiplying factions, would act as “supra-principles” which could not be abrogated when a final constitution is created after parliamentary elections, Harb said.

Tahany al-Gabaly, a Supreme Constitutional Court justice, said the military’s announcement was a victory for those fighting for a civil country. She had not yet been asked to join the committee, but Harb mentioned her name as a likely member.

Speaking on Monday before the military’s official announcement, Harb said the group would discuss the proposals in order to come up with a consensus on basic constitutional protections of human rights, and felt confident an agreement could be reached with the Muslim Brotherhood.

“They now accept they cannot refuse these principles,” he said.

But a spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood was quick to criticize the move yesterday.

“The only party responsible for deciding who are the members of the assembly that will write the constitution is the parliament,” Mahmoud Ghozlan told the Associated Press.

One sticking point could be Article 2 of the current constitution, which says that Islam is the primary source of law.

“No one thinks of touching this law,” Harb said, when asked about hostility from Islamist and Salafi groups.

The Cairo Institute for Human Rights Studies and 27 Egyptian human rights organizations on Saturday also proposed a set of constitutional guidelines. Bahey Eddin Hassan, general director of the institute, said the document did not address Article 2 specifically, but urged that the constitution use international human rights norms as the “prime reference” for legislation.

When pressed on whether this contradicts Article 2, he said, "Of course it contradicts the current phrasing of Article 2. But the growing trend among Egyptians is to amend the constitution to allow non-Muslims to follow their religious teachings.” He said there is room for interpreting Article 2 broadly, which would make it compatible with human rights practices.

Protesters, focused on the slow pace of military trials and security reform, took little notice of the announcement yesterday.

“It’s a good compromise, but the timing will not help the cause,” said Hussein Magdy, an April 6 Youth Movement member from Beni Suef. “There is friction between the SCAF and protesters” right now, and the trials are more important to people.

The legitimacy of the committee’s work will depend on who is involved, according to Hassan, who said he was not satisfied with the constitutional committee formed to draft the amendments put to a referendum in March because it was packed with Islamists.

“We will wait and see who will be on this panel. This will be the key,” he said.

Harb thinks it is likely the panel will not release a final draft until September. “These things are not done quickly,” and work is likely to slow to a crawl during Ramadan, he said, anticipating that elections would be delayed until December or January.

As protesters intensify their clashes with the military council over who will run the country, the proposed committee’s work remains in doubt.

“I would be stupid if I would say I was optimistic,” said Hassan. “This does not mean I am pessimistic. The question is open.”


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/476779

xAbd0o
July 14th, 2011, 12:02 AM
:cheers2: Article 2 sounds now fair :)

egypt69
July 14th, 2011, 01:18 AM
^^ What??? Did they propose a change?

xAbd0o
July 14th, 2011, 01:38 AM
well, I posted a video in the constitution debate thread. the last video. in the video they state some of the articles. and you can check it there, if you want to skip, they state the 2nd articles from 25:22.

but if you don't want to check the video at all. the articles is kept the same and they added something at the end. it said something like those who are not Muslims are judged according to their believes. also the fact that it's still states that Islam is the country's religion and not Islam is the religion of the majority of the citizens is further discussed and they say, it's meant by it that Islam is the religion of the majority of citizens.

Also the whole thing is been discussed now by Egypt's parties and will further be discussed. it's noted to say 18 parties supported it. inc. al masryen el ahrar and the MB :)

egypt69
July 14th, 2011, 03:24 AM
Honestly, if they add a part saying "other religions are according to their own beliefs", that will be really stupid and be the opposite of unity. Why mention religion at all in the constitution, it's the EGYPTIAN constitution, being Egyptian should be all that matters.

egypt69
July 14th, 2011, 03:32 AM
I know there is thread of this, but there are 2 other points in this article worth mentioning!

Egypt fires 669 officers to cleanse police force

Egypt's government, meeting a key demand by protesters, fired nearly 700 top police officers on Wednesday to cleanse the discredited and widely unpopular force, state television reported.

In another nod to demands by activists, Egypt's military is delaying parliamentary elections initially expected to take place in September, Egypt's state news agency said. The vote is now to be held in October or November, the report said.

Many of the political parties that arose from the 25 January-11 February uprising against Hosni Mubarak sought to delay the vote so they could compete more effectively against better prepared and financed Islamists, like the Muslim Brotherhood.

The military, which took control of the country when Mubarak stepped down, effectively announced the delay already Tuesday, saying preparations for the legislative election would begin 30 September.

The dismissal of 669 police officers was announced Wednesday by Interior Minister Mansour el-Issawi. It responds to one of the main demands of protesters camping out in Cairo's central Tahrir Square. The protesters want the police force to be purged of remnants of the Mubarak regime and officers involved in the killing of nearly 900 protesters during the uprising.

Egyptian state TV said that 37 of the dismissed officers face charges of killing protesters.

Among those dismissed were 505 major-generals, including 10 of the interior minister's top assistants, 82 colonels, and 82 brigadiers, the report said.

"This is the biggest administrative move ... to bring new blood," to police force, el-Issawi said. He promised that "any police officer will be held accountable for any violation or reluctance."

The military also said Tuesday it would draft a set of regulations for selecting the 100-member assembly that will write a new constitution. That could make it more difficult for any Islamist-led legislature to choose the body and thereby give the charter an Islamist slant.

Protesters still in Tahrir lifted their siege of the city's largest government building Wednesday, allowing business to resume there while staying camped out in the square for a sixth day to press the country's new military rulers for faster change. Hundreds of Egyptians holding personal documents funneled into the building, a symbol of Egyptian bureaucracy.

"The complex is open upon orders of the revolution," read a banner on its front gates.

Protesters Mahmoud el-Noubi said organizers are trying to step up pressure on the government without disrupting daily life. A stern statement Tuesday from the military council failed to quell the protests in Tahrir, and participants said they would continue with their encampment until all their demands are met.

The protest had the feeling of a festival, with people hanging around outside their tents and makeshift shelters, reading newspapers, drinking tea and talking politics. Some picked up trash.

The myriad groups participating in the protest have splintered in recent months, though a huge banner was hung in the square that sought to unify their demands. It called for a new government, limited power for the military council, the release of prisoners tried in military tribunals and speedy public trials for former regime officials.

Fearing the pace of change has stalled, many protesters have turned their criticism to the army, once seen as the protector of the revolution for not firing on the protesters during the uprising.

"The council has proved that it is collaborating with Mubarak," said protester Ahmed Mahmoud. "We want a civilian council elected by the revolutionaries from the square."

Meanwhile, a leading watchdog slammed Egypt's military rulers for reinstating the Information Ministry, one of the symbols of Mubarak's authoritarian rule that was seen by many as a propaganda office for his regime.

The Committee to Protect Journalists said in a statement late Tuesday that the move was a major setback for press freedom in Egypt, saying the ministry's history as an arm of the ousted regime makes it unsuitable "to reform the media sector."

The ministry was disbanded and its head sacked following Mubarak's ouster. The military council last week reinstated the ministry and named a new information minister.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/476902

xAbd0o
July 14th, 2011, 04:09 AM
Honestly, if they add a part saying "other religions are according to their own beliefs", that will be really stupid and be the opposite of unity. Why mention religion at all in the constitution, it's the EGYPTIAN constitution, being Egyptian should be all that matters.

well, it didn't mention any other religion. so don't worry you're included :lol: it said non-muslims so that's everyone but muslims :) and for your information this is as best as it can get. most Egyptians wont allow article 2 to go, that's wont even happen in anyone's dream. the fact they gave right to all Egyptians is good.


Plus this "constitution" is like a human right document. so it preserves everyone's right. it came in response to the big trend of elections first or constitution first. It's like a solution to make both sides happy. So if this is in place. we can make sure even if the MB got on power, Egyptians who don't want the MB would still have the right to be Egyptians with no restrictions. it also doesn't allow the MB to make Egypt something like Iran or anything as it states that Egypt shall be a civil state :)

So really it's a document that preserves Egyptians rights, and it's articles cannot be edited nor deleted.

egypt69
July 14th, 2011, 04:15 AM
Well let's wait and see what the final document is gonna look like, then I'll judge.

xAbd0o
July 14th, 2011, 04:30 AM
I agree, we should wait :)

BTW el baradei made a version and others also made other versions too, and at the end this commite took them all in addtion to other versions from countries like, france, germany, india, turkey and we had one before and they put them together to make this one. anyways the 2nd article in this one sounds way better in this one than el baradei's. check what el baradei said

فيما تنص المادة الثانية على أن الإسلام دين الدولة، واللغة العربية لغتها الرسمية، ومبادئ الشريعة الإسلامية المصدر الرئيسى للتشريع
Source:http://www.youm7.com/News.asp?NewsID=454325&SecID=12

Montrealers
July 14th, 2011, 07:11 AM
Egypte : les législatives prévues en septembre reportées

Les élections législatives égyptiennes prévues en septembre seront reportées de un mois ou deux, a annoncé, mercredi 13 juillet, l'agence officielle Mena. Ce délai était réclamé par de nombreuses formations politiques et mouvements issus de la révolte contre le régime de l'ancien président Hosni Moubarak en début d'année.

Les Frères musulmans (islamistes), le mouvement politique le mieux organisé d'Egypte, sont considérés comme les plus susceptibles de tirer profit d'un scrutin organisé le plus rapidement possible. D'autres groupes – dont les mouvements libéraux – qui s'efforcent de constituer des partis depuis la chute du président Moubarak, le 11 février, militaient pour un report, faisant valoir qu'il favoriserait une participation plus large.

L'inscription des candidats débutera en septembre. "S'ouvrira alors une période de campagne, après quoi des élections seront organisées. De ce fait, le scrutin pourrait donc avoir lieu après septembre, peut-être en novembre", indique une source militaire. L'armée avait laissé entendre que la date du scrutin pourrait être différée, mais c'est la première fois qu'elle donne une indication sur le délai envisagé.

Le Conseil suprême des forces armées, qui dirige l'Egypte, avait annoncé des législatives pour septembre en s'engageant à transférer le pouvoir à la société civile à l'issue du scrutin. En juillet, le premier ministre, Essam Charaf, avait déclaré que les élections auraient lieu fin septembre, mais il s'était montré le mois précédent favorable à un report afin de permettre à un plus grand nombre de formations de s'organiser.

LA RUE S'IMPATIENTE

"J'ai déclaré précédemment, mais cela n'a peut-être pas été bien compris, que les procédures électorales devaient s'engager avant la fin septembre, mais pas nécessairement le scrutin proprement dit", a expliqué le général Mamdouh Chahine, membre du Conseil. Il intervenait lors d'une conférence de presse organisée en raison des manifestations de plus en plus nombreuses qui prennent pour cible le Conseil, au pouvoir depuis février.

Des manifestants occupent la place Tahrir du Caire depuis vendredi en réclamant des procès rapides d'Hosni Moubarak et de ses alliés, accusés de corruption et de la répression sanglante du soulèvement populaire du début de l'année.

Beaucoup d'Egyptiens reprochent au conseil militaire de ne pas tenir ses promesses et de retarder le procès des caciques de l'ancien régime. Celui de l'ancien raïs, toujours hospitalisé à Charm El-Cheikh, doit s'ouvrir le 3 août.

Essam Charaf a promis lundi de remanier son gouvernement dans la semaine mais sans parvenir à satisfaire les manifestants qui, outre l'accélération des procédures judiciaires à l'encontre des membres de l'ancien régime, réclament des réformes démocratiques. Il a accepté mardi la démission du vice-premier ministre, Yehia El-Gamal, que les manifestants jugent incompétent.

http://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/article/2011/07/13/egypte-les-legislatives-prevues-en-septembre-reportees_1548497_3212.html

Legislative election will be reported for 1-2 months according to the article...

Azmat
July 14th, 2011, 09:19 AM
فيما تنص المادة الثانية على أن الإسلام دين الدولة، واللغة العربية لغتها الرسمية، ومبادئ الشريعة الإسلامية
المصدر الرئيسى للتشريع

Isn't that the current one?

xAbd0o
July 14th, 2011, 11:02 AM
Pretty much :|

I mean Al Azhar had a better version :lol::lol:
اعتماد النظام الديمقراطى، القائم على الانتخاب الحر المباشر، لأنه الصيغةَ العصرية لتحقيق مبادئ الشورى الإسلامية، بما يضمنه من تعددية ومن تداول سلمى للسلطة، ومن تحديد للاختصاصات ومراقبة للأداء ومحاسبة للمسئولين أمام ممثلى الشعب، وتوخى منافع الناس ومصالحهم العامة فى جميع التشريعات والقرارات، وإدارة شئون الدولة بالقانون - والقانون وحده وملاحقة الفساد وتحقيق الشفافية التامة وحرية الحصول على المعلومات وتداولها.

egypt69
July 14th, 2011, 02:00 PM
Everything in bold in the main part of the article is EXACTLY what I have been saying all along. Exactly. The West supported Mubarak because they were convinced "It was Mubarak or the Islamists". Just like what I've been saying all these years, Mubarak's rule, supported by the West, made the Islamists stronger. Realism has failed, supporting dictatorships in the Middle East in fear of an Islamist bogeyman is a FAILED immoral policy by the west.

Despite uncertainties Egypt is on the right track, says prominent political expert

Pascal Boniface, the director of the Institute for International Relations and Strategies, tells Ahram Online during a trip to Cairo that the Arab spring is good for Israel, if not the current Israeli government

http://english.ahram.org.eg/Media/News/2011/7/13/2011-634461637878394183-839.jpg


"What Egypt is going through is normal and it happens in [almost] every situation of this kind," said Pascal Boniface, director of the Institute for International Relations and Strategies (IRIS).

Speaking to Ahram Online in Cairo on Tuesday on the fringe of his participation in a seminar organized by the Centre for Economic, Judicial, and Social Study and Documentation (CEDEJ) on transition in Egypt, the prominent French analyst sounded confident that Egypt is going to pass through the hiccups of the move from a dictatorship to a democracy in due time.

"You cannot pass from one system to the other in one day," Boniface said. He noted that after all and despite some confrontations "there is not too much violence in the political process," which could have occurred, and overall people are well aware that it is through "the votes and not weapons" that the fate of this process will be determined.

"And if there is some dissatisfaction with how the transitional phase is going on then that is normal," Boniface stated.

Meanwhile, Boniface warned against what he termed "a historical and political mistake" of calculations to argue that the immediate alternative to the rule of the Hosni Mubarak regime is Islamist rule – be it that of the Muslim Brotherhood or a wider coalition of Islamists.

For Boniface it was the dictatorial rule of Mubarak that gave prominence to the Muslim Brotherhood and other political Islamic groups, which he suggests are unlikely to get 50 per cent of the overall parliament seats in the next elections.

Boniface is convinced that "once confronted in real life it is much more difficult" for the political Islam groups to keep arguing that it is them who could deliver the nation to its ideals.

The IRIS director blamed Western countries for their "short-sighted" approach in perceiving the possible influence of political Islamic groups on the fate of Egypt and insisted that Egypt of 2011 is not Iran of 1979 and not even Algerian of the 1990s simply because Egypt does not have the Aytollah Khomeini of Iran and because the Muslim Brotherhood does not have the influence of the Islamic Salvation Front in Algeria.

"We have to remember that what happened in Egypt was a revolution that was national, secular and peaceful," stressed Boniface. He added that the only successful ending that the Egyptian people are most likely to accept is the establishment of "a national democracy".

Boniface stressed that the West, especially Europe and the countries of the north Mediterranean, have "a strong interest" in lending Egypt all possible political and economic support to help turn it into a true partner rather than an assumed partner that simply follows the will of the West, mostly that of Washington, more often than not.

The success of Egypt, and indeed that of Tunis, according to Bonficae could be helped considerably by the settlement of the disturbed situations in Libya and Syria. When Egypt and Tunis succeed, he also suggested, that would help Libya, particularly, and also Syria to find the right political exit out of the current problems they are facing.

Meanwhile, the prominent French political analyst argued that overall the Arab Spring could eventually change the dynamics of the political process that aims to settle the Arab-Israeli conflict, in which it is ultimately in the interest of the Israeli people to make peace with the Arab peoples – who are not opposed to a fair peace, according to Boniface – and their truly elected governments rather than with imposed governments that essentially act upon the will of the West.

For Boniface, the Arab Spring, especially the Egyptian revolution, is therefore ultimately “good news for Israel even if it is not good news for the current Israeli government."

And for Boniface the ability of a post January 25 revolution Egypt to prompt the necessary Western intervention with Israel to pursue a fair peace is higher than that of Egypt before the revolution.

"After the revolution the popularity of Egypt in the West increased compared to what it was before," said Boniface. He added, "We can again be hopeful".

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/16312/Egypt/Politics-/Despite-uncertainties-Egypt-is-on-the-right-track,.aspx

Montrealers
July 14th, 2011, 04:41 PM
مصر | التليفزيون المصري يعلن بث محاكمة مبارك وقتلة الثوار .

عشان كدا الناس نزله ادى اول طلب علانيه المحاكمات ودا كان من اهم مطالب المعتصمين وان شاء الله القادم افضل لمصر


:banana::banana::banana:

http://www.facebook.com/portsaid.city

Montrealers
July 14th, 2011, 05:47 PM
النص الكامل لأقوال «مبارك» فى قضايا قـتل المتظاهرين وتصدير الغاز وصفقات السلاح .. مبارك: «العادلى قال إن المتظاهرين هيمشوا الساعة 12 بالليل ولو قعدوا هيمشيهم برشاشات الميه.. إطلاق النار لم نتفق عليه»

http://www.youm7.com/News.asp?NewsID=454421&SecID=12&IssueID=168

Ya khrebeto... Mosta7el yekon Masry!

xAbd0o
July 14th, 2011, 05:49 PM
:ohno:

Montrealers
July 14th, 2011, 05:59 PM
Official report: Safwat al-Sherif masterminded 'Battle of the Camel'

Evidence and witness statements recently revealed that head of the Shura Council Safwat al-Sherif masterminded the 2 February attack on Tahrir Square protesters known as the "Battle of the Camel".

The investigation committee, which was charged by the justice minister to investigate the incident, said that as the secretary general of the now-dissolved National Democratic Party (NDP), Sherif was responsible for planning anti-revolution marches and rallies, including those of groups of thugs supporting ousted President Hosni Mubarak who attacked the protesters.

The committee also said that Sherif communicated by phone with NDP loyalists and members of the party, parliament, the Shura Council in order to compel them to disperse anti-Mubarak protests by force, even if it meant killing demonstrators. The committee said the calls involved clear and direct instructions from Sherif for NDP members to mobilize counter-protests, as well as attack Tahrir protesters.

According to the investigation, the counter-protests were set to begin in Mostafa Mahmoud Square, Abdel Moneim Riad Square and the Maspiro area of downtown Cairo, and then head to Tahrir Square.

The crowds were led by NDP-affiliated members of parliament and NDP loyalists, some of whom came on camels, horses and horse-drawn wagons, according to the findings. The witnesses named former MP Abdul Nasr al-Jabri, who represented the Haram and Omraniya constituencies, and Youssef Khatab, who represented the Giza constituency, as inciting counter-revolution protesters to attack the Tahrir Square protesters.

The investigations included statements from 87 witnesses, which included journalists, lawyers, doctors, businessmen, employees and NDP members. According to the statements, groups of thugs and outlaws that attacked protesters were systematically mobilized under direct orders from NDP officials to all NDP cadres.

The witnesses also said that the plan carried a specific mandate to empty Tahrir Square by all means possible under the pretext that the protesters were harming Egypt’s interests and were receiving instructions from foreign entities. The witnesses went on to say that “snipers” on roof-tops overlooking Tahrir began firing at the protesters, as camels, horses and thugs broke into the square, violently attacking the protesters on two fronts.

Translated from the Arabic Edition


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/477179

xAbd0o
July 15th, 2011, 02:56 AM
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egypt69
July 15th, 2011, 05:56 AM
State TV to broadcast Mubarak’s trial next week

Ibrahim al-Sayyad, chief news room editor of the Egyptian Radio and Television Union, said Thursday that state television will broadcast the trials of deposed President Hosni Mubarak and other symbols from his regime beginning next week, in accordance with established rules.

“We are prepared to cover Mubarak’s trial on 3 August, after the military council announced that it would be public,” Sayyad said. “And we will provide both live and recorded coverage.”

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/477312

Montrealers
July 15th, 2011, 06:09 AM
can't wait to see Mubarak face :D
wa7ashtena ya rayes ya ma3'lo3 :lol:

Montrealers
July 15th, 2011, 08:08 AM
Amazing stuff i found:cheers:

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268305_180847585310120_120213561373523_447961_6798065_n.jpg

Montrealers
July 15th, 2011, 04:10 PM
I got goosebumps :cheers:

European Commission president: Egypt on its way to democracy, freedom

Egypt is now on the road to democracy, freedom and openness, said president of the European Commission José Manuel Barroso on Thursday. He noted, however, that the Egyptian revolution is not over and that the road to democracy is littered with obstacles.

"The spirit that fueled the revolution is capable of completing it,” Barroso said in a speech delivered at the Cairo Opera House entitled “Partners in Freedom: the EU response to the Arab Spring”.

The speech was attended by a number of Egyptian ministers and ambassadors.

At the start of his speech, Barroso lamented the deaths of so many young people during the 25 January revolution. He pointed out that Europe is working toward a society free of corruption, and that such an outcome can be possible someday in Egypt as well.

"I came to Egypt to express my respect for the Egyptians and their revolution, and to reaffirm my confidence in Egypt and the Egyptian people,” said Barroso. “The world watched the protests with hopes for a better future that will include freedom and dignity.”

He went on to say that the EU does not seek to interfere with Egypt’s internal affairs.

Barroso said that democracy must come from within, and that foreign aid can only help plant its seeds. He said that with their revolution, the Egyptians have shown the courage and determination to move on to a better future.

Translated from the Arabic Edition


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/477251

egypt69
July 16th, 2011, 05:13 AM
I strongly recommend watching this. In just 45 minutes, they go over everything that has happened in Egypt, what has changed, what hasn't changed since the revolution and analyse the change and what it has resulted in, in terms of Egyptian government structure, the economy, the egyptian political scene & civil socierty, domestic policy, foreign policy (relations with other countries in the region, Israel, the US and how they will look like from here on).

The guests are novelist & activist Dr. Nawal Sadawy, sociologist and author Saad Edin Ibrahim and the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood Essam El Erian. Another guest, chief correspondent of the Economist based in Cairo, Max Rodenbeck.

The discussions are interesting, and the Brotherhood leader gets attacked by the other guests when he advocates political Islam in Egypt :okay: You can see that part at 12:40.

Basically a 45 min sum up of every single thing that has happened in Egypt, the changes it has brought and future prospect. Strongly recommend.
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I really have great respect for Dr. Nawal Sadawy. Everything she says are things I strongly stand for and believe in as well. She is an inspiration and a model for all Egyptians. She does a fantastic job of tearing the Brotherhood part guy apart. :applause:

Montrealers
July 16th, 2011, 05:18 AM
I will definetly watch it tomorrow as i'm back from work and too bored...

egypt69
July 16th, 2011, 05:21 AM
Sure, but don't miss it!

egypt69
July 16th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Revolution's violence claims one more Egyptian months after injury

A man injured during the revolution dies in hospital

Mostafa Ahmed Hassan, aged 35, died on Saturday in the Kasr El-Ainy hospital after six months of receiving medical care for suffering a bullet wound to his head during Egypt’s revolution.

A medical source said that Hassan was hospitalized on 8 May and died as a result of injury to his brain.

Hassan is one of more than 800 martyrs who have lost their lives as a result of Egypt’s revolt. A funeral is planned for Hassan in Tahrir Square following afternoon prayers by the thousands currently staging a sit-in to push for the revolution’s unmet demands.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/16541/Egypt/Politics-/Revolutions-violence-claims-one-more-Egyptian-mont.aspx

RIP. A further reminder of the people we need to seek justice for once and for all :ohno:

UAE_isthebest
July 17th, 2011, 02:32 AM
I've never heard of Dr. Nawal Sadawy... but after I saw the video posted by egypt69 I think she's a great, strong woman!

Brilliant video too! Really shows what Egypt need, what Egypt doesn't need is the Muslim Brotherhood!

We have a loooong way to go... I hope everything will be alright :)

xAbd0o
July 17th, 2011, 04:13 AM
:angel: hope is the only thing I can offer :(
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Montrealers
July 17th, 2011, 05:05 AM
Egypt's Foreign Minister Orabi resigns before reshuffle

Egypt's Foreign Minister Mohammed al-Orabi has resigned ahead of an expected major cabinet reshuffle.

Caretaker Prime Minister Essam Sharaf has promised a major shake-up of his administration amid continuing protests about the slow progress of reform.

Mass demonstrations began in January and led President Hosni Mubarak to resign after nearly 30 years in power.

Mr Orabi, who served as a diplomat under Mr Mubarak, has been in his job less than a month.
'Saving embarrassment'

He took over from Nabil al-Arabi, a popular minister who left the post to head the Arab League.

Mr Orabi said he had submitted his resignation "to spare the prime minister any embarrassment during the current negotiations on the ministerial changes", Egypt's state-run Mena quoted him as saying.

Mr Sharaf reportedly announced that he had accepted the resignation on the social networking site Facebook.

Mr Sharaf, who has limited powers under the new military rulers of the country, has come under increasing pressure to speed up reforms.

"I am working hard to achieve your aspirations," AFP quoted him as saying in a Facebook posting.

Last week, almost 700 senior police officers were removed from their jobs over the killing of protesters during the revolution.

More than 800 protesters were killed during the 18-day revolt.

Protesters, some of whom have been holding an ongoing protest in Cairo's central Tahrir Square for more than a week, want a new government, limited power for the military council, the release of civilians being tried in military tribunals, and speedy public trials for former regime officials.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14175574?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

MASRI
July 17th, 2011, 07:22 PM
Mubarak in a coma: Egypt state TV

CAIRO — Egypt's former president Hosni Mubarak, who is in custody in a hospital in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, is in a coma, state television reported on Sunday, quoting his lawyer.

"The former president is in a full coma after his health suddenly deteriorated," the channel reported.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j15F7dNztIP6rmslUdBhJLgx7feg?docId=CNG.8fb7d35155ba255c40a5a227fc0d8daf.3e1

egypt69
July 17th, 2011, 07:47 PM
Yasaaalaaaaaam, whenever he's trial date comes up, he suddenly goes into a Coma or suffers some other illness. :bash:

It's funny, because the Hosni Mubarak's parody Twitter account tweeted the other day "My next heart attack is scheduled on August 2nd"

MASRI
July 17th, 2011, 08:14 PM
lol

I doubt he'll be alive by August 3rd. And if he is, the trial will probably be delayed because he is not "fit" to stand trial.

Hosni Mubarak is trending worldwide on Twitter. :lol: Interesting. :lol:

egypt69
July 17th, 2011, 08:17 PM
Wow, this is not good. I want him to die in prison.

Montrealers
July 17th, 2011, 09:35 PM
Wow, this is not good. I want him to die in prison.

Wow this is not good? You want him to die in prison? Please, you're getting out of the context.... I thought this thread was made for the demands of our revolution.... Our revolution taught us dignity & justice.... I don't see what's the deal of wishing him death as it's out of the context of our revolution. Let him die as he wishes, he served our country for 30 years, he'll be part of our history whatever our opinion will be., but he must be guilty for what he did..

God bless he revolution & the martyrs who :cool:

MASRI
July 18th, 2011, 02:03 AM
lol...he "served" the country for 30 years. Served?

He enslaved the country for 30 years, not serve it. He is a criminal and never was a legitimate representative of the people nor president of the nation.

Montrealers
July 18th, 2011, 02:25 AM
lol...he "served" the country for 30 years. Served?

He enslaved the country for 30 years, not serve it. He is a criminal and never was a legitimate representative of the people nor president of the nation.

Let's say 20 years where he enslaved the country... his first 10 years was fine with lots of innovations... the only people who should be blamed for the enslaving is me & you and the rest of egyptians. We letted them enslaving the country, making them believe we're weaker & fearful, they turned blind and shared the country like a toy ;)

egypt69
July 18th, 2011, 02:31 AM
^^ My god...I can't believe this :ohno:

"Served for 10 years" ??? We ba3dein eh, mish bas kida, it's OUR fault kaman? :ohno:

Montrealers
July 18th, 2011, 02:33 AM
^^ My god...I can't believe this :ohno:

What?

Montrealers
July 18th, 2011, 03:28 AM
Egypt appoints Mohamed Kamel Amr as foreign minister

Egypt appointed former Foreign Ministry official Mohamed Kamel Amr on Sunday as its new foreign minister, replacing Mohammed el-Orabi who had held the post for less than a month, state television reported.

The appointment of Amr, who has worked for the World Bank since leaving the Foreign Ministry, was part of a cabinet reshuffle demanded by protesters camped out in central Cairo.


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/478205

MASRI
July 18th, 2011, 04:24 AM
Let's say 20 years where he enslaved the country... his first 10 years was fine with lots of innovations... the only people who should be blamed for the enslaving is me & you and the rest of egyptians. We letted them enslaving the country, making them believe we're weaker & fearful, they turned blind and shared the country like a toy ;)

His rise to power was illegitmate. Meaning his full 30-year presidency was illegitmate.

Where is the innovation? Corrupt Privatization, Healthcare, Police Force...?? Building a bridge and a few hotels is not innovation. Just look at the country pre-Mubarak (and pre-1952), and how it is today, post-Mubarak...

Montrealers
July 18th, 2011, 05:52 PM
His rise to power was illegitmate. Meaning his full 30-year presidency was illegitmate.

Where is the innovation? Corrupt Privatization, Healthcare, Police Force...?? Building a bridge and a few hotels is not innovation. Just look at the country pre-Mubarak (and pre-1952), and how it is today, post-Mubarak...

Illegitmate or not that's not the main issue... We could have done the revolution 10-15 years ago... But it was a question of willingness & patriotism ... the last 10 years of Mubarak contributed alot in the destruction of the egyptian system... there's no single association in Egypt uncorrupted which is why it'll take time before restructing the whole system.

MASRI
July 18th, 2011, 08:43 PM
Illegitmate or not that's not the main issue... We could have done the revolution 10-15 years ago... But it was a question of willingness & patriotism ... the last 10 years of Mubarak contributed alot in the destruction of the egyptian system... there's no single association in Egypt uncorrupted which is why it'll take time before restructing the whole system.

Yes, it does matter. Because it is a matter of principles not people or institutions. Mubarak assumed power through a rigged referendum. How could he had ever been a legitmate representative of the nation?

Blaming the people by saying "this revolution should have started earlier" seems to assume that all leaders are corrupt until they are overthrown by a revolt...?? I don't understand your logic. Mubarak was corrupt, and the people were victims to his constant crimes over the 30 year period. It is not the other way around.

He did not serve the country. And the people are not to be blamed.

Montrealers
July 18th, 2011, 11:38 PM
نقل «شرف» للمستشفى إثر وعكة صحية بعد سلسلة مشاورات حول التشكيل الوزاري

أصيب الدكتور عصام شرف رئيس مجلس الوزراء، بوعكة صحية مفاجئة في العاشرة من مساء الاثنين استدعت نقله إلى المستشفى الذي وصله في العاشرة والنصف تقريباً.

وحجز الأطباء في قسم الطوارئ بمستشفى دار الفؤاد، الدكتور شرف لإجراء بعض الفحوصات الطبية.

وكان شرف قد أصيب بالوعكة الصحية، بعد عدد من اللقاءات المتتالية مع مستشاريه ونوابه كان آخرها لقاءه مع الدكتور علي السلمي نائب رئيس مجلس الوزراء، حيث ناقش معه شرف التشكيل الوزاري الجديد كما

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/node/478528

xAbd0o
July 19th, 2011, 01:57 AM
He's out now :)

Montrealers
July 19th, 2011, 01:58 AM
He's out now :)

Yeah i know:cheers:

Montrealers
July 19th, 2011, 07:29 AM
رويترز: محاكمة مبارك قد تعقد في شرم الشيخ

صرحت مصادر لوكالة أنباء "رويترز" أن الرئيس السابق حسني مبارك قد يحاكم الشهر المقبل في منتجع شرم الشيخ، حيث يعالج، وليس في القاهرة.

ويعالج مبارك (83 عاما) في مستشفى شرم الشيخ الدولي منذ شهر أبريل، الذي شهد بدء التحقيق معه وصدور قرار حبسه على ذمة التحقيق واستمرار حبسه على ذمة القضية، ووجهت له تهم تتصل بقتل مئات المتظاهرين خلال الثورة التي أسقطته في 11 فبراير.

وقال مصدر قضائي لرويترز "المرجح أن محاكمة مبارك ستجرى في محكمة جنايات شرم الشيخ التي تقيمها وزارة العدل الآن للمحاكمة"، وأضاف "إذا ساءت حالته الصحية ستعقد المحاكمة في المستشفى الذي يعالج فيه"، وستبدأ المحاكمة في الثالث من أغسطس.

http://www.shorouknews.com/ContentData.aspx?ID=507042

Montrealers
July 20th, 2011, 09:31 PM
Egypt parliamentary election will take place as scheduled, on september :)

اللواء شاهين: الانتخابات البرلمانية ستجرى في موعدها

أكد مساعد وزير الدفاع، عضو المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة، اللواء أركان حرب ممدوح شاهين، أن انتخابات مجلسى الشعب والشورى ستجرى في موعدها كما هو مقرر، على أن تبدأ الإجراءات الخاصة بها في شهر سبتمبر المقبل، يعقبها إجراء الانتخابات خلال فترة لا تقل عن 30 يوماً من بدء إعلان الإجراءات.
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وشدد اللواء شاهين، خلال مؤتمر صحفي عقده مساء الأربعاء، على أن المجلس يسعى لتسليم السلطة في أقرب وقت، مشيراً إلى أنه سيتم إجراء انتخابات مجلسي الشعب والشورى على ثلاث مراحل وفي توقيت واحد على أن تكون ما بين المرحلة والأخرى 15يوماً، تتم خلالها أيضاً عملية الإعادة إن وجدت وهو ما ينطبق على الانتخاب بالنظام القوائم الفردية.

ونوه إلى أن تأجيل الانتخابات جاء لإعطاء الفرصة للأحزاب بعمل أرضية لها في الشارع المصري، وإعادة ترتيب أوراق الأحزاب القائمة وإعطاء فرصة لأحزاب الشباب للحراك في الشارع وتشكيل قاعدة لهم.

وقال اللواء شاهين «سنراهن العالم كله بأن تجرى انتخابات حرة وشفافة، ونهيب بكل طوائف الشعب عدم انتهاك أو محاولة انتهاك أمن وسلامة البلاد والقوات المسلحة بشكل خاص».

وأشار في هذا الصدد إلى أن القوات المسلحة بذلت جهوداً كبيرة لتعديل اللوائح السياسية وتحقيق الانتخابات الحرة النزيهة لدعم المعارضة والأحزاب، موضحاً أنه تمت دراسة كل النظم وتم الاتفاق على الرأي بالأخذ بنظام القائمة المغلقة بنسبة 50% ويسمح للأحزاب الترشيح على الفردي


http://www.almasryalyoum.com/node/479086

Montrealers
July 21st, 2011, 07:44 PM
شرف: أول أهداف الحكومة هو تحقيق أهداف الثورة والمحافظة على مكتساباتها





أكد الدكتور عصام شرف رئيس الوزراء أن أول أهداف الحكومة هو تحقيق أهداف الثورة والمحافظة على مكتساباتها ، مشيرا الى أن اعلان الحكومة ليس اكثر من الانتقال من مرحلة الى مرحلة أخرى، مرحلة عملنا فيها بجد واجتهاد إلى مرحلة أخرى نتوجه فيها بكل القوة لتحقيق اهداف الثورة .

وأضاف شرف خلال خطاب تلفزيوني القاه منذ قليل، ان الحكومة في الفترة القادمة ستنطلق من عدة مرتكزات أساسية أولها تحقيق الامن وتحسين مستوياته وثانيها ضمان الحد الادني من حاجة المواطنين.

وأشار ، إلى المرتكز الثالث، وهو تحقيق العدالة الناجزة وتحقيق العدالة في المحاكمات ورابعها انجاز مهام التحول الديمقراطى وتهيئة المناخ لإجراء انتخابات حرة ونزيهة.

وأضاف الدكتور عصام شرف رئيس الوزراء أن اختيار الوزراء فى التعديل الوزارى الأخير الذى أعلن عنه اليوم كان بعيدا عن الانتماءات الحزبية أو التوجه السياسي، مشيرا إلى أن التوجه في هذا الامر كان هو مصر .

وعبر شرف فى كلمته التى وجهها للامة، عن الشكر والتقدير للوزراء السابقين ، وقال انهم اجتهدوا فى ظل فترة عصيبة مرت بها مصر. وأضاف انه واعضاء حكومته يعرفون أن مستوى الاداء خلال الفترة الماضية لم يكن على قدر الطموحات الا انهم بذلوا اقصى جهد لتحقيق هذه الطموحات .

وقال الدكتور عصام شرف رئيس الوزراء انه طلب فى كلمة قصيرة بعد التشكيل الوزاري اليوم من كل وزير أن يقدم برنامجا للعمل خلال الفترة القادمة وسوف نناقشه خلال اجتماع مجلس الوزراء القادم وسنخرج منه بخطة الحكومة فى المرحلة القادمة.


وأوضح أنه بتشكيل حركة المحافظين سوف نكون جاهزين للمرحلة القادمة ، وقال ان هناك نقطة هامة جدا أحب أن أؤكدها لابنائنا الشرفاء النبلاء الذين تظاهروا فى ميادين فى 8 يوليو الماضى كانت لهم رسالة سنتعامل معها بكل جدية ونحن منكم واليكم . وقال إن أسر الشهداء ومصابى الثورة سيكون لهم من الحكومة تكريم لائق معنوي ومادي .

وأكد شرف على تفعيل قانون الغدر في الفترة المقبلة، بالاضافة إلى العمل على انهاء حالة الطورائ، و تعيين مستشار لحقوق الانسان لوزير الداخلية وفتح السجون امام المنظمات الحقوقية.

واضاف ، أن انشغالنا بالتطهير ومحاكمة الفاسدين لا يشغلنا عن تحقيق افضل، وأكد ان من اهم اهداف المرحلة القادمة هو ضمان الحد الادني من احتياجات المواطنين.


http://shorouknews.com/ContentData.aspx?id=509304

Montrealers
July 21st, 2011, 08:31 PM
عادل حمودة يكشف أكبر فضيحة مالية وعسكرية لمبارك بالمستندات بجريدة الفجر .. شيك بـ120 مليون دولار من الشيخ زايد لمبارك دفعة أولى ثمن دخول الجيش المصرى فى حرب الكويت!

انفرد الزميل عادل حمودة، رئيس تحرير جريدة الفجر، فى عددها الأسبوعى الصادر يوم الاثنين الماضى، بنشر تفاصيل فضيحة مالية وعسكرية للرئيس المخلوع حسنى مبارك.

وتفيد المستندات، التى حصلت عليها الزميلة الفجر، بأن مبارك حصل على شيك بـ120 مليون دولار من الشيخ زايد آل نهيان رئيس دولة الإمارات العربية المتحدة السابق، كدفعة أولى نظير دخول الجيش المصرى فى حرب الكويت.

و"اليوم السابع" تعيد نشر الموضوع، الذى انفردت به الزميلة الفجر، إيماناً منها بأهميته فى كشف فساد مبارك، الذى وصل إلى حد مغامرة الدخول فى حروب وتعريض أمن البلد للخطر، مقابل ملايين الدولارات التى كنزها لنفسه.

من شدة تواضعه وبساطته لن تصدق أن باسل بوشناق - الفلسطينى الأصل - كان فى يوم من الأيام الرجل الذى يدير حافظة استثمارات الشيخ زايد المالية.. وربما لهذا السبب فإنه لا يزال وثيق الصلة بدوائر السياسة البريطانية، وقادراً على التأثير فيها.
ترك الرجل منصبه.. لكنه.. لم ينس معلوماته الثمينة التى عرفها بحكم تواجده فى كواليس السلطة العربية.

فوجئت به يقول: إنه كتب بنفسه أول شيك من الشيخ زايد إلى علاء وجمال مبارك وكان بـ300 مليون دولار.. لكن.. مثل هذه المعلومات مهما كانت صحتها يصعب إثباتها.. فمن الذى يمكن أن يظهر لنا صورة الشيك.. وما البنك الذى سيخون ثقة عملائه من الحكام الأثرياء ويكشف أسرارهم؟.. إن ذلك من سابع المستحيلات.

كنت قد التقيت الرجل فى لندن.. واستمتعت بحكايته الأسطورية عن الحياة فى كواليس القصور النفطية.. لأرويها على سبيل الثرثرة لمصرفيين مصريين كبار يعرفون من خبايا السلطة أكثر مما يعرفون من خبايا المال.. وطوال معرفتى بهم.. كانوا يحترفون صناعة الصمت.. فالكلمة منهم ولو فى المنام ستنتهى بقتلهم بحادث سيارة مسرعة.. قضاءً وقدراً.. دون أنى نسى القتلة أن يخرجوهم فى جنازة مهيبة.. تنتهى بعزاء يقف فيه رجال الدولة.. وبعضهم لا يتردد فى أن يقتل القتيل ويمشى فى جنازته.

بعد جدل بدأ بلا نهاية عن ثروة مبارك.. قال أحدهم: إن الرقابة الإدارية بجلالة قدرها لم تستطع أن تمسك عليه شيئاً يزيد عما قاله فى بياناته الرسمية المعلنة.. لقد ظلمناه.. وافترينا عليه.. وأطعمنا المصريين الوهم حين قلنا إن ثروته بالمليارات.

لكن.. ما أن انفضت الدردشة حتى طلب منى شخص آخر لم يفتح فمه طوال السهرة أن ألقاه فى «كافيه» شهير على أطراف طريق الإسكندرية الصحراوى.. لأمر مهم لم يفصح عنه فى لحظتها.

بدا الرجل مضطرب الملامح.. يتلفت حوله.. وبسرعة مذهلة وضع فى يده ملفاً نحيفاً.. أوراقه محدودة العدد.. لم يستمر اللقاء أكثر من ثلاث دقائق.. لم يقل فيها شيئاً سوى.. «ربنا يعينك ويحميك».. وانصرف.

كانت تتصدر الملف صورة شيك صادر من بنك أبو ظبى الوطنى يحمل رقم 758628 بتاريخ 25 أغسطس 1990.. وكود حساب صاحبه «1673».. والشيك محرر باللغة الإنجليزية بآلة كاتبة.. على يمينه جملة: صالح لمدة 12 شهراً.. وفيه أمر بأن يضعوا لرئيس جمهورية مصر العربية مبلغاً وقدره 120 مليون دولار فقط.. على أن يودعوه فى حسابه فى مؤسسة «مورجان ترست المصرفية».. وعنوانها 23 وول ستريت «شارع المال» فى نيويورك.. مع جملة «رجاء وضعه فى الحساب رقم 65000357» وهو حساب حسنى مبارك هناك.

ويحمل الشيك توقيعين لشخصين أجنبيين لهما حق التوقيع على الشيكات.. الأول ربما كان اسمه كيدلى، أما سفرة توقيعه فرقمها «111» والثانى ربما كان اسمه وليكس وشفرة توقيعه رقم «34».

وأسقط فى يدى.. فالشيك هو أول دليل دامغ من نوعه على أن مبارك له حساب بنكى - أو أكثر - فى بنوك أمريكية.. وأن إنكاره فى بيانه التليفزيونى الذى صاغه له محاميه فريد الديب بأنه ليس له حسابات فى الخارج لم يكن صادقاً.
الإعلامى عادل حمودة

يضاف إلى ذلك أن ادعاءه بأن ثروته لا تزيد على فيللا فى شرم الشيخ وحساب بنكى فيه 6 ملايين جنيه هو ادعاء كاذب.

لكن.. لماذا نعتبر الشيك شخصياً يخص مبارك لا يخص دولته، خاصة أنه محرر باسم رئيس جمهورية مصر العربى؟.. الإجابة يعرفها المصرفيون فى البنك المركزي، وهى أن الشيكات التى تأتى للحكومة شيكات ذات طابع خاص تختلف عن شيكات الأشخاص.. كما أن الشيك مفتوح لمن يظهره له مبارك.. ليودعه فى حسابه.. وعادة ما تغلق الشيكات المرسلة لجهات رسمية كى لا يجرى العبث بها أو الاستيلاء عليها.

ولاشك أن قيمة الشيك تعتبر كبيرة بالنسبة لوقت تحريره منذ نحو 21 سنة.. ففساد الرئيس السابق كان على ما يبدو مبكراً.. وهو أيضاً ما يفسر العلاقة الخاصة بينه وبين حاكم الإمارات الراحل، وكان فى الحقيقة شخصية محبوبة من المصريين.. وكثيراً ما كان يأتى إلى مصر لممارسة هواية الصيد فى الصحراء الغربية.. وكثيراً ما كان يدفع فاتورة حقن إعادة الشباب التى كان الرئيس المخلوع حريصاً عليها.

وحسب المعلومات الإضافية فى الملف.. فإن الشيك سُلم باليد إلى شخصية مصرفية معروفة.. لها صلة وثيقة ببنك «أوف نيويورك».. وسافرت هذه الشخصية إلى نيويورك لتودع بنفسها الشيك فى حساب مبارك.. وفيما بعد.. كوفئت هذه الشخصية - التى كانت وثيقة الصلة بمبارك - بتعيينها فى منصب رفيع.. ربما أكبر من منصب وزير.

وحسب المصدر نفسه، فإن مبلغ الشيك كان دفعة أولى تبعتها دفعات أخرى لم نستطع حصرها.. فقد صور الشيك الأول بالصدفة خلال عمله فى منصب حساس بأحد البنوك الأجنبية.

ولو لاحظنا أن تاريخ الشيك يأتى بعد 23 يوماً فقط من غزو العراق للكويت.. فإن المبلغ المحول إليه لابد أن له علاقة بتشجيع مبارك على دفع الجيش المصرى لدخول حرب تحرير الكويت تحت قيادة البنتاجون.. وكانت المعارضة المصرية ترفض أن يحارب المصريون تحت قيادة أمريكية.. بل كانت ترفض أن يحل النزاع بالحرب أصلاً.. إن مشاركة الجيش المصرى فى تلك الحرب كانت مساندة لشعب عربى ظلمه طاغية - هو صدام حسين - أضاع بلاده.. وأمته.. وشنق فى النهاية.. ولكن.. تكشف هذه الأوراق المالية أن هذه المشاركة لم تكن خالصة لوجه الحرية.. وإنما كانت وراءها مكاسب شخصية.. نالها مبارك قبل أن تبدأ الحرب.. قبض ثمنها مقدماً.. وكان العربون على ما يبدو هذا الشيك.

لقد شارك فى الحرب نحو 35 ألف جندى.. استشهد بعضهم.. وعاد البعض الآخر بعاهة مستديمة.. وهو ما يعنى أن مبارك تاجر بدمائهم.. وفاز وحده بغنيمة الحرب التى سميت بعاصفة الصحراء، وبدأت فى 17 يناير واستمرت حتى 26 فبراير وشنتها قوات التحالف المكونة من 34 دولة بقيادة الولايات المتحدة.. وفى الوقت نفسه تسببت هذه الحرب فى انقسام العالم العربى.. وتعرض مبارك بسببها إلى هجوم شرس وسخرية حادة.. إلا أنه لم يعر ذلك انتباهاً.. فقد صم أذنيه وأغمض عينيه بملايين الدولارات الخضراء.

إن البحث فى ملفات البنوك المصرية سيكشف عن كثير من الأموال التى جناها مبارك وعائلته ولو كانت الصدفة قادتنى إلى شخص أثبت لى أنه نال بشيك واحد 120 مليون دولار، فإن الفحص الجيد سيوصلنا إلى عشرات المليارات.. بشرط أن يظل ضميرنا مستيقظاً ونحن نراجع الملفات.. يضاف إلى ذلك هناك شخصيات بعينها تعرف كل شىء.. وتخشى أن تتكلم إما خوفاً من اتهامها بالتواطؤ.. وإما خشية أن تضاف إلى قائمة المحالين للمحاكمات فى طرة، ولا يزال جراب مبارك المالى فيه الكثير.


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120 million 3shn el geish al masry yetadkhal fe 7arb kuweit??????? Be3t sha3bak ya Hosny? Yn3al abol l gabak w l khalefok.

egypt69
July 21st, 2011, 09:37 PM
^^ Well the despicable part is that it went to his personal wealth.

But there was a lot in it for us during that war, the US forgave $7 billion of our military debt.

Montrealers
July 22nd, 2011, 03:57 PM
^^ Well the despicable part is that it went to his personal wealth.

But there was a lot in it for us during that war, the US forgave $7 billion of our military debt.

I don't give a shit what is the debt of our army. The war corcerned all the countries belonging to the NATO which we're not and our troops were the first esquadron of the launhing invasion .... $$ doesn't replace egyptian lives.... And i bet USA made from the war 10x the 7 billion profit ....

xAbd0o
July 22nd, 2011, 04:06 PM
Kimo you don't understand, bel3araby keda deh 3molet mubarak. when mubarak go out to ethiopia to talk in addis ababa he get paid for that. when he sign a deal with other countries he g paid for that. 3mola! do you get what this is now? the problem is he's betray Egypt and putting this money outside Egypt. instead of Egyptian banks to help the economy.

egypt69
July 22nd, 2011, 04:11 PM
I don't give a shit what is the debt of our army. The war corcerned all the countries belonging to the NATO which we're not and our troops were the first esquadron of the launhing invasion .... $$ doesn't replace egyptian lives.... And i bet USA made from the war 10x the 7 billion profit ....

Tayeb ya 3am calm down, I never said I agreed with it or anything. I was just telling you what happened.