Egypt's 25th of January Revolution [Archive] - Page 19

egypt69

November 23rd, 2011, 01:54 AM

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Field Marshal Mohammed Hussein Tantawy addressed the nation recently, saying that he approved the resignation of Prime Minister Essam Sharaf and promised to appoint a new cabinet to work closely with SCAF until the transitional period is over. He also vowed that parliamentary elections will be held on time, and that presidential elections will take place by July 2012. Tantawy added that SCAF is willing to hold a referendum on whether to send the army back to the barracks. He affirmed that the military has no interest in holding on to power, adding that it has showed consistent self-restraint despite mounting criticism. He praised the performance of the security forces, saying that there have been many improvements since the security void that followed the 25 January revolution. Tantawy dismissed criticism of SCAF as an attempt to “topple the state.”

Tantawi speech ruffles Tahrir

Less than two hours after the speech by Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, clashes have erupted again on Mohamed Mahmoud Street, a sign that activists and politician say indicates that the nation’s military rulers are following the former regime’s failed strategy to remain in power.

Continue article here: http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/517625

245 Egyptian diplomats urge handover of power to civilian govt

Egyptian diplomats on Tuesday signed a statement urging the ruling Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) to pledge to conduct presidential elections and hand over power to civilians by mid-2012 at the latest.

The statement, which was signed by 245 diplomats, called on the governing military council to "stop systematic assaults by security on protesters."

Continue article here: http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/517344

Political figures and representatives have finished their meeting with General Sami Anan, Army chief of Staff and member of the SCAF. Chairman of Al-Wasat Party, Abu El-Ela Mady, told Al Hayat TV channel that they reached the following:

- Holding presidential elections on 30 June 2012 while parliamentary elections will stay on schedule.

- Allowing freedom of protest and sit-ins.

- An immediate release of the detainees arrested since last Saturday.

- Forming a new "national salvation" unity government.

- The SCAF has no problem in having a referendum on whether the Army should return to their baracks or not.

Protesters are not leaving the square anytime soon, and have agreed not t o display any signs or logos of political parties, despite the different factions present in the scare, and to only display the Egyptian flag.

In other random news, 3 foreign students studying at the American University of Cairo were caught throwing molotov cocktails at police, and will be deported:

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Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 02:07 AM

I amazed by the fact each day is a new day. Alot of daily development, i wonder what will be the cocessions given tomorrow by the SCAF :dunno:

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 02:25 AM

UNCORFIRMED NEWS:Mubarak fled the hospital.I hope it is false.

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 02:46 AM

Protesters knows how to stop tear gas evaporatio in the air.

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Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 03:41 PM

Wafd newspaper: ElBaradei sets conditions for potential salvation government

Presidential hopeful Mohamed ElBaradei has set conditions for the leadership of the new salvation government that protesters in Tahrir Square demand, according to Al-Wafd newspaper's website.

News reports said Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) deputy chairman Sami Anan met on Tuesday with leaders of political parties to discuss the possibility of tasking ElBaradei with forming a new government. ElBaradei did not attend the meeting.

But Al-Wafd's website quoted the presidential hopeful as saying that he would only accept the mission if parliamentary elections are held as scheduled on 28 November. He said his nomination must be approved by the new parliament.

ElBaradei also said he would want authority to make decisions without SCAF intervention.

In downtown Cairo, clashes during protests against police brutality and the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces have left at least 28 demonstrators dead and hundreds injured, according to the Health Ministry. Three other protesters have died in clashes in Ismailia and Alexandria.

Months earlier, ElBaradei, a former International Atomic Energy Agency director and a Nobel laureate, said he was ready to give up his presidency bid if such move would help secure a safe transition for the country.

Many young opposition activists support ElBaradei, and he has good relations with the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt's largest and most organized group.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/517706

:applause:

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 03:59 PM

Conflict Risk Alert: Egypt: The Revolution Returns

The brutal crackdown on demonstrators that has once again shaken Tahrir Square and unleashed protests across Egypt is tragic, yet it also offers a rare chance to get the transition process back on track precisely at the time when there was every indication it was set to derail.

The demonstrators’ message is clear: power must immediately devolve from the military to a credible, empowered civilian authority. The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF), persuaded it retains the support of a majority of the people, has tended to respond to pressure incrementally, giving in only after having resisted and then giving in some more. A far wiser course for the authorities and for the country as a whole would be to let the political parties fundamentally revisit the transitional process. Violence against protesters must come to an end, the security sector also needs to come under clear civilian rule, and those guilty of abuses should be brought to account. Anything short of that – tinkering with the process in an effort to calm things down or kicking crucial decisions down the road – is almost certain to confront the military with intense opposition in the near future, at a time when it could well be in a far weaker position to handle it.

The latest chapter in Egypt’s ongoing crisis began on 19 November, when Central Security Forces (CSF), in collaboration with the military police, stormed Tahrir Square in an attempt to forcefully clear a sit-in of dozens of people, most of whom had been injured during the 25 January uprising. The ensuing outburst reflects more than anger at the security services’ disproportionate response. It is the product, too, of accumulated frustrations and distrust that have come to shape the perceptions of virtually all political players and that the military, confident in the support it enjoys from ordinary Egyptians, chose to ignore.

The protesters have had good reason to worry about where the SCAF was taking the nation. Its actions since President Hosni Mubarak’s ouster in February – refusing to offer a transparent timetable for the transition of power to elected civilian authorities; delaying presidential elections until as late as mid-2013; unilaterally assuming sweeping legislative and executive powers; and condoning continued resort to torture and other human rights violations – suggest at best incompetence and indecision, at worst a deliberate attempt to indefinitely hold on to power.

Moreover, since the SCAF took over, upwards of ten thousand civilians have been tried before military courts, many on politically-motivated grounds, and violent crackdowns on protests – most notably the 9 October Coptic demonstration at Maspiro – have resulted in dozens of civilian deaths and hundreds of injuries. During that period, the military leadership has oscillated between catering to Islamists and playing to secularist fears, all the while seeming intent to preserve or even expand the military’s political role and economic prerogatives.

All in all, the SCAF has done little to inspire confidence in its stewardship and much to instill fear that it was determined not to hand over genuine power to a truly democratic civilian authority.

Many Egyptians no doubt continue to hold the SCAF in high regard, and many blame economic hardships and enduring chaos on the protesters, with whom they have grown impatient. The SCAF has wagered on this sentiment, but its bet appears to have been shortsighted. For now, it is apparent that whatever the so-called silent majority might think, it cannot protect the SCAF from a determined, energised constituency for whom the fate of the revolution is paramount. These politically active groups still retain considerable ability to bring both hundreds of thousands to the streets and Cairo to a standstill.

The key to resolving te present crisis and minimising risks of a repeat is to quickly transfer power from the military to credible civilian authorities, namely an interim government acceptable to the political parties and protest movement that would assume the SCAF’s executive and legislative powers and exercise genuine control over the security services. The new government should have the ability to review the transition’s timetable and process. These powers should be conferred through a SCAF-issued constitutional declaration. In turn, this interim government would give way to one born out of the parliamentary elections, the first round of which is scheduled for 28 November, with final results expected only by late March.

There are valid arguments as to why elections cannot be held that early given ongoing violence and instability. But a postponement – at least without a consensus among political parties – could prove far more costly. It would further fuel concern about the SCAF’s intentions, further split the opposition, and antagonise the powerful Muslim Brotherhood, which almost certainly would see this as an attempt to rob it of its expected strong showing. As for presidential elections, they should be moved up and held as soon as feasible.

The SCAF has sent some encouraging signals. After some hesitation, it has indicated the current crisis must be addressed politically and inclusively, rather than escalating the confrontation, hunkering down, exclusively blaming foreign agitators or making token concessions. In talks with some political parties, it agreed to carry out parliamentary elections on schedule, hold presidential elections by 30 June, dismiss the current government and appoint a “national salvation” cabinet. It needs to do more. Not only must it live up to these commitments but it also must move quickly and agree that the new cabinet enjoys the powers described above.

Other measures are essential to restore trust. Ending the violence, reining in security forces, holding them accountable and allowing peaceful protests is a good place to begin. At this writing, attacks by security forces against protesters have yet to end, even after the SCAF’s meeting with political parties and even after Prime Minister Essam Sharaf ordered those forces to halt their assault.

Political groups also have a responsibility: to seek as wide a consensus as possible on a political vision for the transfer of power to civilian rule as well as for the new government’s mandate.

If there is one lesson to be learned from the SCAF’s ad hoc, vacillating reactions to protests over the past several months, it is that fragmentary responses to popular discontent are not the way to go. They seldom satisfy the demonstrators. They embolden the opposition. And they are almost always but the first step before more thorough concessions for which the SCAF, far from being given credit, is blamed for having dragged its feet.

Egypt’s transition is bound to be rocky, given the legacy of decades of authoritarian rule, resistance by elements of the ancien régime, The military’s fears of losing its prerogatives and the political parties’ alarm that it will hold on to them, as well as the nation’s oversized social and economic challenges. But getting this step right at this juncture could put the transition on a more stable, confident and legitimate path.

:applause awsome article.

http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/publication-type/media-releases/2011/mena/conflict-risk-alert-egypt-the-revolution-returns.aspx

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 04:08 PM

SCAF says public prosecution to investigate Maspero, Tahrir clashes

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Sheikh Al-Azhar urging police force to not shoot protesters and sent Sheikh as human shield in Tahrir via Aljazeera and ESC-1

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 05:19 PM

تصويت المصريين في الخارج بدأ ظهر اليوم عبر البريد

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Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 05:48 PM

Army are deploying troops around interior of Ministry ... Scene turned ugly, alot of egyptian from Tahrir heading to Interior ministry in Mohamed mahmoud street, the street is now being barricaded.

We are losing Egypt :cry:

Update: Could it be mustard gas being used on the protesters? None knows but protesters keeps saying that the gaz has new bad effect on them.

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 06:27 PM

selemya selmeya selmeya egyptian screaming in Tahrir Square followed by the egyptian anthem :)

after fierce clash , officers trying to calm the situation. Aljazeera image showing officers tempering the situation but then suddenly polices forces fired at protesters. I am lost..

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 06:49 PM

http://www.masrawy.com/news/Egypt/Politics/2011/November/23/4617617.aspx

Could that be a start to a military coup?

From the way I see it, what's been happening in Mohamed Mahmoud street IMHO is all planned to upkeep things agitated for a reason!
The riot police could have ended everything in 2 hours but they want to keep things like that!

Today a delegation from Azhar called for a truce, Riot Police accepted it, then while the Sheikh's praying they showers them with tear gas bobms that left of them 11 injured!!

What would be in their minds? is it all to postpone / call elections off or other bigger reasons?
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Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 07:16 PM

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Police breaking truce.

Azmat

November 23rd, 2011, 07:19 PM

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 07:25 PM

Mustard gas? Are you kidding me? They'd all be dead if it was mustard gas. Sulfur mustard is the world's deadliest and most dangerous biological weapon.

I know, that's i told myself but none knows what are these tear gas having but many doctors in Tahrir Square are reporting these toxines used on protesters as deadly. one of the Doctors in The Filed Hospital:The new tear gaz couses Convulsions and epileptic seizures and loss of consciousness

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 07:27 PM

No mustard gas was used. CR Gas was. One of the doctors suffocated to death only minutes ago due to the excessive amount of Gas used against protestors in Tahrir (source of the news is AlMasry AlYoum.)

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 07:29 PM

Sami Anan to speak shortly according to Aljazeera

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 07:38 PM

Tanta is heating up too .

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 07:45 PM

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Azmat

November 23rd, 2011, 07:47 PM

I'm not a big fan of these protests but I'm happy that the army is making important concessions. I condemn the security forces for using excessive violence against protesters but at the same time, I don't think it's wise to do all this one week before the elections.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 07:58 PM

^^

Elections filled with Mubarak's associates?

The only decision made solely by the Military was dissolving both houses of parliament a few days following the fall of Mubarak.

Every other decision/concession was made in response to the weekly protests by citizens or court orders. Dissolving State Security (protests), Mubarak's arrest and trial (protests), Dissolving the NDP Party (court order), Allowing Expats to Vote (Court order), dissolving local municipalities nationwide (court order.) And the list goes on...

No Police Reform, No Media Reform and no emergency measures to help the Egyptian economy. All we've had are governments that cannot even make one simple decision without notifying SCAF prior!

SCAF has done nothing. All the senior positions in the state are still run by men appointed by Mubarak. Even the plan to delegate the powers of SCAF to the Constitutional Court failed because they knew people would not accept powers delegated to men/women appointed by Mubarak to make the transition of power to his son constitutionally easier.

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 07:59 PM

Right now in Alexandria.

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MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 08:01 PM

Tahrir now:

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Azmat

November 23rd, 2011, 08:06 PM

^^

Elections filled with Mubarak's associates?

The only decision made solely by the Military was dissolving both houses of parliament a few days following the fall of Mubarak.

Every other decision/concession was made in response to the weekly protests by citizens or court orders. Dissolving State Security (protests), Mubarak's arrest and trial (protests), Dissolving the NDP Party (court order), Allowing Expats to Vote (Court order), dissolving local municipalities nationwide (court order.) And the list goes on...

No Police Reform, No Media Reform and no emergency measures to help the Egyptian economy. All we've had are governments that cannot even make on simple decision without notifying SCAF prior!

SCAF has done nothing. All the senior positions in the state are still run by men appointed by Mubarak. Even the plan to delegate the powers of SCAF to the Constitutional Court failed because they knew people would not accept powers delegated to men/women appointed by Mubarak to make the transition of power to his son constitutionally easier.

The SCAF approved the law banning all politicians that are affiliated with Mubarak to run in the elections a few days.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/516950

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 08:07 PM

Youm7: Amr Moussa has been approached to form a new government.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 08:11 PM

The SCAF approved the law banning all politicians that are affiliated with Mubarak to run in the elections a few days.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/516950

Exactly on November 21st, due to the protests.

Every political party has been calling on SCAF to implement this law long ago! They only introduce it now....less than a week prior to elections.

There is no way the judiciary (and we know how slow they function in Egypt) will have time to decide on who should and should not run in elections in less than a week.

Why did SCAF introduce the law now? Why did they not implement it six months ago? Why did the people have to protest and over 35 die for SCAF to finally make a "concession" (this should have been one of the first decisions they made back in February or March.)

Too late to implement it now unless elections are delayed 2-3 months, which the MB will never accept.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 08:14 PM

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Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 08:18 PM

Youm7: Amr Moussa has been approached to form a new government.

Rumours that Muslim brotherhood are backing him.

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Hard to see if they're snipers or shotgunners.

Azmat

November 23rd, 2011, 08:21 PM

The riot police are not equipped with real guns, those are riot guns that fire rubber bullets.

Exactly on November 21st, due to the protests.

Every political party has been calling on SCAF to implement this law long ago! They only introduce it now....less than a week prior to elections.

There is no way the judiciary (and we know how slow they function in Egypt) will have time to decide on who should and should not run in elections in less than a week.

Why did SCAF introduce the law now? Why did they not implement it six months ago? Why did the people have to protest and over 35 die for SCAF to finally make a "concession" (this should have been one of the first decisions they made back in February or March.)

Too late to implement it now unless elections are delayed 2-3 months, which the MB will never accept.

I agree with you.

xAbd0o

November 23rd, 2011, 08:32 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CR_gas

It's just an outdated tear gas. They got experied stuff that's what. Imagine you eating expired stuff it's the same it ofc it will be awful and will effect someone's health negatively.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 08:45 PM

Police firing at protesters while they pray:

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xAbd0o

November 23rd, 2011, 08:50 PM

Are you kidding me? Praying? Look at the street it's dirty. I thought prayer are suppose tobe a holy thing and we should pray on clean floor :nuts:

Also praying with masks :lol: that's a new one.

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 09:12 PM

I see a military coup coming soon if nothing is done.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 09:12 PM

Another day of protests nationwide with accumulating deaths and injuries. Meanwhile, SCAF does make one valuable decision and no procedures towards forming a Government of National Salvation.

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 09:24 PM

Guys, go watch Amr Adeed, i love him. Worth watching. I agree with him that protest in Mohamed Mahmoud street near the Ministry of the Interior shouldn't occure. We are losing the country.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 09:34 PM

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 09:37 PM

^^

The protesters accepted the truce numerous times and every time it was breached by security forces. You can go back and watch one of the videos I posted above. :)

The Army must intervene at Mohammad Mahmoud to halt the bloodshed now.

Meanwhile, one of Generals from SCAF finally appeared now on State TV: General Mohamad El Assar "apologizes" for the deaths that have occurred and denounces those who compare SCAF to Mubarak.

I do agree with you but egyptians have no right to be i Mohamed Mahmoud street nor breaking the siege .... Then what? After they break the ministry of Interior barricade, what will happen? If we want to achieve our demand, it should be in Tahrir square, not burning the Ministry of interior siege. Attacking the ministry of interior is considered as a national threat for the security.... Did you ever see any american attacking or siege the white house? Di tb2a karsa.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 09:40 PM

^^

They do not want to attack Ministry. The Ministry isn't even in Mohamad Mahmoud. That is State TV propaganda.

Attacks on Saturday and Sunday (by the police) all came from Mohammad Mahmoud. Protestors were able to push them back to and are now resisting attempts by the MOI to attack the square again.

Why would the protesters endanger themselves and fight an unnecessary battle? It makes no sense.

The police have the upper hand. They are the ones with Special Forces and all the necessary weaponry to protect the ministry. The Army must intervene in Mohammad Mahmoud and the Police must retreat back to the Ministry.

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 09:45 PM

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 09:46 PM

Mohamad Hegazy, another of the Generals from SCAF just spoke (don't know where exactly, but probably State Television as well)...

اللواء محمود حجازي: بدأنا مراحل تنفيذ خطة تسليم السلطة

اللواء محمود حجازي: إذا وجد أي مخرج للإسراع نحن مع هذا المخرج ونرغب في تسليم البلاد بشكل آمن

اللواء محمود حجازي: القوى الوطنية أكدت أنه إذا سلمنا السلطة خلال 6 شهور سنسلم السلطة لأشخاص غير جاهزين لإدارة البلاد

اللواء محمود حجازي: إذا استرجعنا ما تم منذ 11 فبراير وحتى الآن سيعرفون أن مصر تتغير كدولة كبيرة شعبها 85 مليون نسمة

اللواء محمود حجازي: أناشد الإعلام والمواطنين بعدم التعامل معنا بنفس موروثات انعدام الثقة مع النظام السابق

اللواء محمود حجازي: الشعب محق في حالة انعدام الثقة وذلك نتيجة تراكمات طويلة من إطلاق وعود لم تنفذ

اللواء محمود حجازي: هناك رصيد من انعدام الثقة نتاج سنين طويلة ولم نستطع أن نتخلص منه

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 09:48 PM

Yes the ministry of interior office is there.

No, the Ministry is in ElSheikh Re7an street. The battles are at the entrance of Mohammad Mahmoud to Tahrir.

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 09:50 PM

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 09:50 PM

Again, police attacking protesters while praying:

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Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 09:52 PM

Again, police attacking protesters while praying:

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ya3ni eh newala3ha???????????????

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 09:56 PM

اللواء محمد العصار: المواطنون معهم حق في ضرورة تلبية مطالبهم

اللواء محمد العصار: هذه الشخصيات أكدوا أن الإعلان الدستوري ووثيقة الأزهر كافيان لإدارة المرحلة الانتقالية حتى الانتهاء من الدستور

اللواء محمد العصار: العديد من الشخصيات السياسية اتفقوا على أن الـ 52 مادة التي تم إضافتها للإعلان الدستوري من أعظم المواد في دساتير العالم

اللواء محمد العصار: اتفقنا على إعداد قانون لتشكيل اللجنة التي ستقوم بإعداد الدستور

اللواء محمد العصار: الناس تشككت ومعها حق.. ولكن الإجراءات التي أعلنا عنها إجراءات قانونية سليمة

اللواء محمد العصار: اتفقنا مع فقهاء القانون الدستوري أن يستغرق تشكيل الجمعية التأسيسية أسبوعين وإعداد الدستور شهرًا على حد أقصى

اللواء محمد العصار: اجتمعنا مع أساطيل القانون الدستوري وتوصلنا بعد نقاش طويل ~إلى إمكانية ضغط هذه الفترة

اللواء محمد العصار: المواطنون يعتبرون أن 12 شهرًا فترة طويلة جدًا لتسليم السلطة ولكنها فعليًا فترة كافية

اللواء محمد العصار: وضعنا جدول زمني لتسليم السلطة.. وأكدنا في الإعلان الدستوري أن الجمعية التأسيسية ستستغرق 6 شهور لإعداد الدستور الجديد

اللواء محمد العصار: من يوم 11 فبراير إلى الآن نؤكد أن المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة ليس بديلاً للشرعية

اللواء محمود حجازي: المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة يدرس مطالب المتظاهرين في التحرير

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 10:03 PM

اللواء محمد العصار: حاليًا يجري العمل على قدم وساق لاختيار رئيس وزراء جديد

اللواء محمد العصار: سيكون على رأس الحكومة القادمة شخص محل إجماع من الشعب

#Ismalia: At least two dead after the Army storms Mamara Square.

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 10:13 PM

I think we should now stop these protest, all the demands are met.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 10:16 PM

I think we should now stop these protest, all the demands are met.

Which demands have been met?

Has SCAF handed power to Civilians? Has a Government of National Salvation with complete authority and decision-making powers been appointed? Has an independent judicial committee been formed to investigate the deaths of over 35 citizens?

Attacks in Mohammad Mahmoud, Alexandria, Ismalia, Tanta, Suez and many other governorates continue to this very second.

Protesters must not commit the same mistake of leaving Tahrir on February 11th. SCAF cannot be trusted.

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 10:21 PM

Which demands have been met?

Has SCAF handed power to Civilians? Has a Government of National Salvation with complete authority and decision-making powers been appointed?

Protesters must not commit the same mistake of leaving Tahrir on February 11th. SCAF cannot be trusted.

So you are considering a 6 months sit-in in Tahrir square? a 6 month sit-in is pratically impossible.. already within 3 days we lost 20 billion dollar investment and even more, considering a 6 month in Tahir square is pratically impossible. Now considering the fact that the army will transfer power to the supreme court of Egypt will possibly be a chaotic solution since Egypt has always been leaded by the military junta. Now if you tell me that a interim president should be elected, i'll let you know that we're giving the new power to introduce another dictatorial regime because of the weak costitution currently ruling the country.

xAbd0o

November 23rd, 2011, 10:24 PM

I'm totally against the non-peaceful protests. During Mubarak's regime the police was much much much more brutal yet the protestes were peaceful.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 10:26 PM

So you are considering a 6 months sit-in in Tahrir square? a 6 month sit-in is pratically impossible.. already within 3 days we lost 20 billion dollar investment and even more, considering a 6 month in Tahir square is pratically impossible. Now considering the fact that the army will transfer power to the supreme court of Egypt will possibly be a chaotic solution since Egypt has always been leaded by the military junta. Now if you tell me that a interim president should be elected, i'll let you know that we're giving the new power to introduce another dictatorial regime.

I am not calling for anything. I am talking about the protestors in Tahrir and all over Egypt, who are being killed, beaten and tortured. The least I can do here is completely support their sacrifices for a better future for our country.

The reason Egypt is in crisis now goes back to the the intransparency of SCAF during the transition.

A new government must be appointed and with the complete power and authority without SCAF intervention. I am repeating myself...:)

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 10:28 PM

apparently Essam Sharaf is accused of killing protesters by popular figures :shifty:

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 10:31 PM

I'm totally against the non-peaceful protests. During Mubarak's regime the police was much much much more brutal yet the protestes were peaceful.

Peaceful? Go back to January 28th....90% of police stations in Egypt were burnt down. Remember the NDP headquarters?

The protests were peaceful after the Military's intervention and the complete breakdown of Mubarak's security apparatus. And trust me, it took a lot of violence on January 28th (over 500 deaths on that day alone) to defeat Mubarak's police.

Tahrir is completely peaceful other than the on-going battles at Mohammad Mahmoud due to the brutality against citizens there.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 10:33 PM

apparently Essam Sharaf is accused of killing protesters by popular figures :shifty:

The only decision Essam Sharaf made without intervention by SCAF was abolishing daylight saving time. :nuts:

He should not be blamed for anything other than not resigning earlier.

xAbd0o

November 23rd, 2011, 10:33 PM

Peaceful? Go back to January 28th....90% of police stations in Egypt were burnt down. Remember the NDP headquarters?

The protests were peaceful after the Military's intervention and the complete breakdown of Mubarak's security apparatus. And trust me, it took a lot of violence on January 28th (over 500 deaths on that day alone) to defeat Mubarak's police.

Tahrir is completely peaceful other than the on-going battles at Mohammad Mahmoud and the brutality against citizens there.

Baltagya much?

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 10:35 PM

Baltagya much?

Yes and they eat Kentucky much :lol:

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 10:35 PM

Baltagya much?

Definitely Baltagya...

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378079_2696971980719_1149185622_33278425_1006898992_n.jpg

AlAzhar needs to stop sending Baltageya to protests. :cheers:

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 10:37 PM

5alas kda ya gama3a.. I agree with Tahrir square protest but now the army have to take position over Mohamed Mahmoud street and other connected with wuzaret al da5eleya. Lazem yefadou el shaware3 wele msh 3agbo mn el tarafen yb2a yeshteky yeta5ed mn 2afah.... The army cannot anymore temper the situation , lazem ya5dou mawkef.

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 10:39 PM

5alas kda ya gama3a.. agree with Tahrir square protest but ow the army have to take position over Mohamed Mahmoud street and other connected with wuzaret al da5eleya. Lazem yefadou el shaware3 wele msh 3agbo mn el tarafen yb2a yeshteky l ma7kama.

If we had real justice in Egypt, and an independent judiciary, such a move would be possible. But we don't. :)

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 10:45 PM

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 10:49 PM

Oh damn....Egyptian State Television...

موفد التلفزيون المصري: يوجد مندسون من بلاد أخرى بين المتظاهرين تم القبض عليهم .. المذيعة: هل هم مصريون !! الموفد: مصريون ولكن من بلاد أخرى

L2. Ma2alosh kda. 7oma 2alo ''american beyedresso f gam3a l'amrekeya'' w loa2 2al en 3andohom videohat betowagah el shabab dol w homa kano beyermo koktail molotov 3ala shorta ...Ana shoftel ta3leeq 3anohom...

xAbd0o

November 23rd, 2011, 11:03 PM

Definitely Baltagya...

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378079_2696971980719_1149185622_33278425_1006898992_n.jpg

AlAzhar needs to stop sending Baltageya to protests. :cheers:

So alzhar sent people on 28th jan to burn headquarters.

Montrealers

November 23rd, 2011, 11:20 PM

اللواء العصار: منذ 12 فبراير نعلي سيادة القانون ولم نتدخل إطلاقا في عمل القضاء ‎#Egypt‏ ‎#22nov‏ ‎#NoSCAF‏ ‎#tahrir‏ ‎#Nov22‏ ‎#Revolution‏

MASRI

November 23rd, 2011, 11:23 PM

So alzhar sent people on 28th jan to burn headquarters.

Only if you believe AlAzhar are Baltageya. :)

xAbd0o

November 23rd, 2011, 11:35 PM

Only if you believe AlAzhar are Baltageya. :)

Wait what? You're the one who brought al azhar to this remember? I never mentioned them. I said it was the baltagya and released prisoners whom did the chaos of 28th ofc in addition with the police and other regime controlled things.

Montrealers

November 24th, 2011, 12:18 AM

Wait what? You're the one who brought al azhar to this remember? I never mentioned them. I said it was the baltagya and released prisoners whom did the chaos of 28th ofc in addition with the police and other regime controlled things.

The sheikh thing was a joke, Sheikh and 2assiss are popular among egyptians, so how can we call them baltageya :laugh:? They're the most valuable people in Tahrir square , they sensibilized the people in Mohamed Mahmoud street to go back in Tahrir Square and to stop attacking our police forces.

Montrealers

November 24th, 2011, 01:06 AM

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/23/tonight-on-ac360-cat-and-mouse-game-in-cairo/?on.cnn=1&hpt=ac_mid

MASRI

November 24th, 2011, 01:55 AM

The sheikh thing was a joke, Sheikh and 2assiss are popular among egyptians, so how can we call them baltageya :laugh:? They're the most valuable people in Tahrir square , they sensibilized the people in Mohamed Mahmoud street to go back in Tahrir Square and to stop attacking our police forces.

Exactly. What I meant, Abdo, was that you seem to believe that those in Tahrir (now at least..?) are somewhat "Blatageya"....so I posted a picture of an Al Azhar Imam who lost his eye in battles today. The people in Tahrir today are those who were in Tahrir 9 months ago. The same people, fighting the same fight for their freedom.

Now, videos from Ismalia and crimes being committed by the Army. You can hear the Soldier swearing at the protestors...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9dtvH_J73c&feature=share

MASRI

November 24th, 2011, 02:03 AM

edit

Montrealers

November 24th, 2011, 02:22 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9dtvH_J73c&feature=share

^^ Apparently people in Ismaleya tried to storm the police station. IMO, peaceful protester would'nt storm the police station... It seem to be a work done by baltegaya's . Why would they storm police station? The only reason to do that is to take the weapons held inside. I agree with the intervention of the army. Our army would let peaceful protesters in squares but never let such behaviour occure.

At a certain point i hate our amn but we must protect them because the country would be nothing without them.

MASRI

November 24th, 2011, 03:13 AM

I don't see a Police Station....

Eitherway, a State Security officer was arrested in Tahrir yesterday with a silenced gun. Thanks to SCAF not arresting former corrupt NDP members, some members of the former regime members are still exploiting the fluid security to their advantage.

Montrealers

November 24th, 2011, 03:14 AM

@monaeltahawy rumours that she was arrested!

I keep reading at Egypt hashtag that 3 egyptian ere killed by Israelis near border :ohno:

Montrealers

November 24th, 2011, 03:51 AM

Baltageya are attacking protesters in Tahrir square, one of the correspondent was frightened was crying on tv..

MASRI

November 24th, 2011, 04:26 AM

More from Ismalia (one dead, over 11 seriously injured)...Excessive force used by the Military...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P4LbsYlXCDA

Montrealers

November 24th, 2011, 04:35 AM

More from Ismalia (one dead, over 11 seriously injured)...Excessive force used by the Military...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P4LbsYlXCDA

The context in Ismaileya is complexe....

egypt69

November 24th, 2011, 04:38 AM

Look at the crowds....scenes identical to 25 January - Feb 11:

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http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0b6S1F0dzwaJP/610x.jpg

14 year old Maged was shot and killed by police, while he was walking home from a private tutoring session :ohno: :

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386044_311155792245826_271376199557119_1181059_474749538_n.jpg

Montrealers

November 24th, 2011, 04:41 AM

please post your source when saying such story.

MASRI

November 24th, 2011, 05:23 AM

Habib El Adli's Ministry back at doing what it does best...

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egypt69

November 24th, 2011, 05:40 AM

please post your source when saying such story.

khaled said facebook page, and egyptian chronicles blogspot

xAbd0o

November 24th, 2011, 04:24 PM

Exactly. What I meant, Abdo, was that you seem to believe that those in Tahrir (now at least..?) are somewhat "Blatageya"....so I posted a picture of an Al Azhar Imam who lost his eye in battles today. The people in Tahrir today are those who were in Tahrir 9 months ago. The same people, fighting the same fight for their freedom.

Now, videos from Ismalia and crimes being committed by the Army. You can hear the Soldier swearing at the protestors...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9dtvH_J73c&feature=share

No no no you're the one whom think so. I do know that they aren't and that's why I said the protests need to be peaceful. Otherwise if I believe they're baltagya I wouldn't of said they need to be peaceful b/c it's justified.

Montrealers

November 24th, 2011, 05:50 PM

Breaking: Amr Moussa refused the offer for Prime Minister.

Montrealers

November 24th, 2011, 08:09 PM

Rumours that Kamal Ganzoury has officially been appointed as PM.

BREAKING: #Egypt's army ruler Hussein Tantawi appoints Former PM Kamal al-Ganzouri as New Prime Minister.

MASRI

November 24th, 2011, 10:00 PM

Kathom el araf f e5teyrathom. 77 years old? A Prime Minister in Mubarak's regime! Unbelievable...

egypt69

November 24th, 2011, 10:10 PM

Absolutely no difference from his predecessors...howa a7na 3ayzeen nerga3 le wara wala neroo7 wedam

xAbd0o

November 25th, 2011, 12:31 AM

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/315526_207394049335891_132780256797271_462999_695230150_n.jpg

:lol: dah eih el manseb el mawkos dah? 2mo da3ya 3aleh el ra2es el gay.

Montrealers

November 25th, 2011, 04:56 AM

Absolutely no difference from his predecessors...howa a7na 3ayzeen nerga3 le wara wala neroo7 wedam

They offered the PM to Baradei, he said no... Amr Moussa: He said no... They had no choice than choosing him. He's not that bad cosidering the fact he was privileging poor people in his decisions which angered Mubarak.

MASRI

November 25th, 2011, 05:20 AM

They offered the PM to Baradei, he said no... Amr Moussa: He said no... They had no choice than choosing him. He's not that bad cosidering the fact he was privileging poor people in his decisions which angered Mubarak.

محمد البرادعي: اعلنت استعدادي لتشكيل الحكومة و لكن المجلس العسكري رفض اعطائي صلاحيات كامله و برر اختيار الجنزوري بأنه طلب صلاحيات واقعيه !

ElBaradei refused the post because SCAF refused to give him enough authority in the decision-making process. They want another puppet government (Essam Sharaf) which isn't allowed to make one single decision without going back to SCAF....

I am more worried that after all the deaths, violence and protests, SCAF is still not willing to give the next government enough power....

Montrealers

November 25th, 2011, 05:22 AM

محمد البرادعي: اعلنت استعدادي لتشكيل الحكومة و لكن المجلس العسكري رفض اعطائي صلاحيات كامله و برر اختيار الجنزوري بأنه طلب صلاحيات واقعيه !

ElBaradei refused the post because SCAF refused to give him enough authority in the decision-making process. They want another puppet government (Essam Sharaf) which isn't allowed to make one single decision without going back to SCAF....

I am more worried that after all the deaths, violence and protests, SCAF is still not willing to give the next government enough power....

I have never seen a clearer regime than the current one. We know how much the SCAF wants power but maybe they'll give up once presidential election comes in? Only the true face of the regime will be shown in the upcomig parliament election.

xAbd0o

November 25th, 2011, 10:37 AM

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/377429_2097328807484_1673285692_1449434_1613037560_n.jpg

:lol::lol:

Azmat

November 25th, 2011, 05:40 PM

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:'(

Montrealers

November 25th, 2011, 05:47 PM

wow :(

Montrealers

November 25th, 2011, 05:55 PM

RNN | Egypt : Demonstration supports the "SCAF" The Supreme Council of Armed Forces. at Abasia square on Friday. :eek:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392107_255137751211312_147813315277090_732314_2072214069_n.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=255137751211312&set=a.148206911904397.36536.147813315277090&type=1&ref=nf

Azmat

November 25th, 2011, 05:57 PM

I saw that on national television. I guess they just want stability now before the elections.

MASRI

November 25th, 2011, 05:58 PM

5000-9000 people max at Abassaiya.

Over 250,000 in Tahrir.

Azmat

November 25th, 2011, 06:00 PM

I heard that it was over 500,000. :dunno:

nEw-bRo0d

November 25th, 2011, 06:03 PM

French TV journalist assaulted by Cairo protesters

PARIS (AP) — A French TV journalist says she was punched and roughed up, then sexually assaulted while covering protests in Egypt's Tahrir Square, the second such attack reported there in a single day.

Caroline Sinz told France 3 television, her employer, on Friday that a day earlier she and her cameraman were set upon by young men in the square then separated.

She said she was punched, then "subjected to a sexual aggression in front of everyone in full daylight."

Providing more detail in an interview with RMC radio, she said boys 14 to 16 years old "tore off my clothes and undergarments" and assaulted her.

Mona Eltahawy, a prominent Egyptian-born U.S. columnist, also said she was sexually assaulted Thursday in the square. She is a women's rights defender, a lecturer on the role of social media in the Arab world and a former Reuters journalist.

:ohno:

MASRI

November 25th, 2011, 06:03 PM

Anti-SCAF protests in Alexandria:

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/313066_232857270124723_103622369714881_459652_997256954_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376033_232870966790020_103622369714881_459671_179500265_n.jpg

Tahrir:

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381410_204239002989832_105468476200219_501624_179014102_n.jpg

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MASRI

November 25th, 2011, 06:04 PM

I heard that it was over 500,000. :dunno:

Yeah, there aren't specific numbers. But it is anywhere from 250,000-750,000+

MASRI

November 25th, 2011, 06:04 PM

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388190_2732022826779_1443522286_3042657_1047544555_n.jpg

:lol:

Montrealers

November 25th, 2011, 06:09 PM

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388190_2732022826779_1443522286_3042657_1047544555_n.jpg

:lol:

Not meant that.... My fear would be a small war between supporters and anti-Scaf like it happened with 25th January.

Azmat

November 25th, 2011, 06:16 PM

That would be very undemocratic.

MASRI

November 25th, 2011, 06:36 PM

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/380832_297666820266228_177371528962425_973511_1208241584_n.jpg

Montrealers

November 25th, 2011, 06:41 PM

Egyptians are the bravest people

Montrealers

November 25th, 2011, 06:57 PM

Live update: Ganzouri: No new cabinet before elections

4:00 pm: New Prime Minister Kamal al-Ganzouri issues his first statement as premier. “A cabinet won’t be formed before parliamentary elections,” he says.

Ganzouri says that he has been granted powers more than any prime minister ever has.

“I have enough power in this position to help me to serve the country. Talks to form a government haven’t started yet.”

Ganzouri describes his mission as “a true challenge” and vows to form a government “acceptable” to all Egyptians. Ganzouri says he is welcoming youths’ and revolutionary groups’ suggestions for who should be the new cabinet members. He says Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi is not willing to stay in power.

3:30 pm: Tahrir protesters decide to sit-in at the cabinet building to prevent Ganzouri from entering his new office.

2:00 pm: Ganzouri begins talks to form a new government. State TV says he will hold a press conference shortly.

1:45 pm: Trade union members march down Qasr al-Aini Street toward Tahrir Square to demand the military hand over power to a civilian government.

1:10 pm: Thousands march from Mostafa Mahmoud mosque in the Mohandiseen neighborhood heading to Tahrir Square, chanting, “SCAF should go back to the barracks.”

1:03 pm: State TV reports that Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi has commissioned former Prime Minister Kamal al-Ganzouri to form a national salvation government. Ganzouri will be given all the powers necessary to perform his duties, says the report.

1:00 pm: Thousands chant in Tahrir, “The people want to topple the field marshal,” in reference to Hussein Tantawi, the head of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF).

12:55 pm: State TV reports an Al-Azhar official is giving a speech in Tahrir Square on behalf of Grand Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayyeb.

12:35 pm: In a friday sermon in Tahrir Square, Sheikh Mazhar Shaheen called for a national salvation government including presidential hopefuls Mohamed ElBaradei, Hamdeen Sabbahi and Abdel Moneim Abouel Fotouh.

11:13 am: Presidential hopeful Mohamed ElBaradei announced on Twitter that he will participate in the protest at Tahrir today. “On my way to Tahrir to pay my respects to the martyrs. Their sacrifice will not be in vain. Together we shall prevail,” ElBaradei tweeted.

10:25 am: The Health Ministry says 65 ambulances are stationed around Tahrir Square to provide medical help for protesters should they need it. Health Ministry Undersecretary Hisham Shiha said in a statement that hospitals near the square are on emergency alert.

Earlier in the day: Hundreds of Egyptians arrived in Tahrir Square Friday morning to participate in the "Last Chance Friday" protest. Many political forces have called for a massive protest on Friday to demand the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) transfer power to a civilian government.

The protest name references giving the SCAF one last chance to step down and transfer power to a civilian-led national salvation government.

Clashes that raged from Saturday until Thursday morning between security forces and protesters left 41 dead, including 36 in Cairo, two in Alexandria, two in Ismailia Governorate and one in Marsa Matrouh Governorate, according to the Health Ministry.

Former Egyptian Prime Minister Kamal al-Ganzouri met with Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi on Thursday, Al-Ahram newspaper reported, and unconfirmed reports have said Tantawi tasked Ganzouri to form a national salvation government.

Other reports also said former Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa turned down the post.

Tahrir protesters, meanwhile, refused the appointment of either Ganzouri or Moussa as prime minister.

Many political forces have announced their plans to participate in the Friday protest, including the 25 January Revolution Youth Coalition, April 6 Youth Movement, Egyptian Social Democratic Party, Socialist Popular Alliance Party, Egyptian Communist Party, Tagammu Party, Adl Party, and National Association for Change.

Islamist political forces remained divided on whether to participate in the protest until Thursday evening. The Nour Party, Salafi Dawa group, Fadila Party, and Reyada Party all announced they will take part in the protest, but the Muslim Brotherhood and Jama'a al-Islamiya said they will not participate in any protests until the start of parliamentary elections.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/518166

MASRI

November 25th, 2011, 07:33 PM

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384607_328240717192848_100000207680326_1624434_831963041_n.jpg

Montrealers

November 25th, 2011, 07:36 PM

3alia2 Mahdy was attacked by protesters in Tahrir :eek: .... She's the girl who posted nude 1 week ago!!!!!

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MASRI

November 25th, 2011, 07:51 PM

Not good.

egypt69

November 25th, 2011, 08:54 PM

:ohno:

Azmat

November 25th, 2011, 10:33 PM

She wasn't really beat up or anything, just pushed/dragged out of the square. I agree though, it's not good.

Montrealers

November 26th, 2011, 05:16 AM

فيديو يوضح لحظات الاخيره لبهاء الدين السنوسي داخل عربه الاسعاف بهاء اصيب بطلق ناري في اعلي منتصف الراس ..يعني في شعره من فوق ..يعني اتضرب عليه نار من مكان (عالي) في ادوار عاليه وقصه الفتاه اللي ضربته بطلق ناري دي قصه كذب ازاي وحده قصيره تضرب شاب اطول منها بطلقه في راسو من فوق في نص شعره؟؟؟الطلقه جايه من قناصه من مكان عالي.و الله اعلم ..بهاء اتضرب بطلقه وهو كان بيصور احداث مديريه الامن في سموحه بالموبايل بتاعه كان حطط ايده في جيبه والايد التاني بيصور بيها الاحداث...

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MASRI

November 26th, 2011, 02:57 PM

Tantawi is meeting with Amr Moussa and ElBaradei (Source: Egyptian State Television.)

Azmat

November 26th, 2011, 03:33 PM

What are they discussing?

MASRI

November 26th, 2011, 05:06 PM

What are they discussing?

Tantawi wanted them to publicly endorse and support the new government and form a "consultative council" to assist the new government in the decision-making process.

Amr Moussa agreed to support the government.
ElBaradei refused.
Seems the Consultative Council idea didn't work out too well...

Montrealers

November 27th, 2011, 12:04 AM

Tantawi is meeting with Amr Moussa and ElBaradei (Source: Egyptian State Television.)

I was watching Amr Adib show and he said that Mohamed El Baradei will accept to be PM under his conditions.

Montrealers

November 27th, 2011, 12:19 AM

ElBaradei says ready to head salvation government

Presidential hopeful Mohamed ElBaradei issued a statement Saturday night declaring his willingness to head a national salvation government if he was asked officially to do so and was given full powers. He added that he would give up his bid for presidency.

ElBaradei’s statement came after his nomination by revolutionary groups and Tahrir protesters to head a national salvation government to replace the military council in ruling the transitional period.

ElBaradei says in the statement that, if assigned officially to form the government, he will withdraw from the presidential race "to ensure confidence and total neutrality in his leadership of the transitional period."

Names suggested to take part in the government include two other presidential candidates: Abdel Moneim Abouel Fotouh and Hamdeen Sabbahi.

ElBaradei met earlier today with youth groups who declared their refusal of newly appointed Prime Minister Kamal Ganzouri and reaffirmed that the only way out of the current crisis is the formation of a fully empowered national salvation government to manage the transitional period until the presidential elections.

The suggestion came following a bloody week of confrontations between protesters and security forces in streets surrounding Tahrir Square that left at least 42 dead.

Meanwhile, state media announced Saturday night that the military council will be meeting with ElBaradei and presidential hopeful Amr Moussa individually to discuss the current crisis.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/520621

xAbd0o

November 27th, 2011, 12:20 AM

:badnews:

Montrealers

November 27th, 2011, 12:22 AM

:badnews:

I don't know if Baradei stands a chance for his bid to the presidency but hey, it seem worth it, if they ever agree with his terms. I swear the future of the country will pass his decisions. We currently need him. Our economy is struggling, nothing have changed within 10 months.

xAbd0o

November 27th, 2011, 12:25 AM

He can't do nothing in 7months. Also that means more chance for one of the islamist to win the presidency.

Montrealers

November 27th, 2011, 12:35 AM

Apparently there was a dispute in zawaya al hamra because of a tea issue. The fight erupted and already first minute thugs had a disupute which ended with Ak-47's fight. You can clearly hear the gun used. Apparently it lasted between 45 minute - 1 hour without any intervention until the army assaulted the mobs with heavy vehicules. Now when you look at the video, you see Cairo messed up, i feel like assisting the tournage of Ibrahim Labyad... People throwing molotov, everything burning around, it's like hell!

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Montrealers

November 27th, 2011, 01:04 AM

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/381038_1951412684569_1820205844_1261534_2047081040_n.jpg

Montrealers

November 27th, 2011, 01:13 AM

He can't do nothing in 7months. Also that means more chance for one of the islamist to win the presidency.

Everyday is a new day. 7 month is indeed alot and if he successfully achieve what any other PM didn't do, i don't see why he can't stay PM once again once the new president is elected?. So you're telling me those who were going to vote for Baradei will find the Islamists as alternative :nuts:????

xAbd0o

November 27th, 2011, 01:17 AM

He added that he would give up his bid for presidency.

^^ so that's 7 months and bye bye.

Also you're looking at it from a very narrow perspective.

Montrealers

November 27th, 2011, 01:20 AM

^^ so that's 7 months and bye bye.

Also you're looking at it from a very narrow perspective.

Egyptians in Tahrir wants Baradei as PM and if the SCAF accepted the proposal, we'd have a real PM. I don't care about the narrow perspective, fi fawda fl balad, lazem nel72 el balad 2bl maten7ar.

xAbd0o

November 27th, 2011, 01:25 AM

I'd rather wait 7 months with the current condition then have el baradei for 5years and possibly 10. Than just 7 months and possibly a corrupt come for 5-10 years and all what el baradei did goes to the drain the no use.

Montrealers

November 27th, 2011, 02:25 AM

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xAbd0o

November 28th, 2011, 12:31 AM

National salvation government to be announced in wednesday. I hope it's not el baradei.

MASRI

November 28th, 2011, 12:38 AM

^^

They already chose ElGanzouri. The ministers are the ones who will be announced on Wednesday.

SCAF has also agreed to form an "Advisory Council" composed of 50 men/women representing all Egyptians to assist them in the decision-making process.

xAbd0o

November 28th, 2011, 12:39 AM

No point of having a parliment in this case.

MASRI

November 28th, 2011, 12:45 AM

The parliament is necessary to write the constitution and legislate laws. By electing a parliament, SCAF only has executive power, not both executive and legislative.

xAbd0o

November 28th, 2011, 12:46 AM

Ohh so the advisory council won't replace the SCAF.

MASRI

November 28th, 2011, 12:48 AM

^^

No, it will only "advise" them when making executive decisions.

xAbd0o

November 28th, 2011, 12:50 AM

cool, although is too late TBH.

Azmat

November 28th, 2011, 12:51 AM

Excuse my ignorance, what's the difference between executive decision and legislative decision?

MASRI

November 28th, 2011, 12:59 AM

Excuse my ignorance, what's the difference between executive decision and legislative decision?

The Executive is the government (in this case, SCAF and the transitional government) --> manages the affairs of the state and foreign relations and the armed forces.

The Legislature (parliament) writes and proposes laws, upholds the constitution, etc.

The powers of each branch, in reality, depends on how "democratic" and "authoritarian" a nation is. Under a dictatorship like Mubarak, the legislature had no real power. Under SCAF we've had the same, they've held both Executive and Legislative powers. So by electing a parliament, we are taking away their legislating powers and limiting them to executive powers. When we elect a president, he'll take over the Executive powers of SCAF and they'll return to just being the respected Armed Forces of Egypt. :D I just hope they give up power. :D

And Abdo, I agree with you, these decisions should have been made months ago.

Wust El Balad

November 28th, 2011, 01:01 AM

Excuse my ignorance, what's the difference between executive decision and legislative decision?

Executive is the one executing the order while the legislative is the one who proposes the law such as magles el sha3b. When you pass a law you must pass by the justice. I believe the only one executing the law is the government (the army)...

Azmat

November 28th, 2011, 01:02 AM

The Executive is the government (in this case, SCAF and the transitional government) --> manages the affairs of the state and foreign relations and the armed forces.

The Legislature (parliament) writes and proposes laws, upholds the constitution, etc.

The powers of each branch, in reality, depends on how "democratic" and "authoritarian" a nation is. Under a dictatorship like Mubarak, the legislature had no real power. Under SCAF we've had the same, they've held both Executive and Legislative powers. So by electing a parliament, we are taking away their legislating powers and limiting them to executive powers. When we elect a president, he'll take over the Executive powers of SCAF and they'll return to just being the respected Armed Forces of Egypt. :D I just hope they give up power. :D

And Abdo, I agree with you, these decisions should have been made months ago.

So the Legislature has no real power? The Executive (the army) can still veto pretty much anything they want?

Wust El Balad

November 28th, 2011, 01:05 AM

I thought the parliament was the executive?

xAbd0o

November 28th, 2011, 01:08 AM

So the Legislature has no real power? The Executive (the army) can still veto pretty much anything they want?

Yup pretty much. Legislature is when you have the power to make a law, Executive is when you have the power to enforce the law.

MASRI

November 28th, 2011, 02:16 AM

The full powers of the executive/legislature/judiciary are defined in the constitution. But usually, the Executive does have veto power over legislation. Again, it depends on how the constitution defines the power of each branch.

Wust El Balad

November 28th, 2011, 02:59 AM

‫توزيع مولتوف على البلطجية اسكندرية مديرية الامن‬‎
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Wust El Balad

November 30th, 2011, 03:00 PM

عاجل: الضابط «قناص العيون» يسلم نفسه للداخلية والنيابة تحقق معه مساء اليوم-AlmasryAlyoum

Wust El Balad

December 2nd, 2011, 05:47 AM

Can't describe the feeling i have , how did we manage to forgive what happened during the last months and years. 1 week ago was a total bloodbath when the police force attacked peaceful protesters and yet we voted because we trusted the new system. After viewing this video, i see brave egyptians fighting for freedom, fighting for a better life. I will never forget what they've done weither they're christians or muslims :applause:

You know guys, it doesn't matter for me anymore, i don't fear death after what i've seen, if you want something, do it for god's sake.

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egypt69

December 2nd, 2011, 06:04 AM

:cry:

Wust El Balad

December 2nd, 2011, 06:15 AM

:cry:
You know, i was reading yesterday an article in Le journal de Montreal and they said the NATO'S is currently studying 3 projects (Canada involved) and one of the country considered was egypt (don't know if it's true), they want an intervention in Egypt to keep us in the dark hole .... It just made up my mind , once i'm done with university i will pull up my bags and return to Egypt w yegra l yegra . I don't want to be part of a system that will ruin my country. Even further, i'd cancel my canadian citizenship once there. But hell no, never i'll live in Canada or any other country. I'd rather be killed or something bad happening to me in my country rather than seeing these egyptian killed while watching.

Azmat

December 2nd, 2011, 01:13 PM

Can't describe the feeling i have , how did we manage to forgive what happened during the last months and years. 1 week ago was a total bloodbath when the police force attacked peaceful protesters and yet we voted because we trusted the new system. After viewing this video, i see brave egyptians fighting for freedom, fighting for a better life. I will never forgive what they've done weither they're christians or muslims :applause:

You know guys, it doesn't matter for me anymore, i don't fear death after what i've seen, if you want something, do it for god's sake.

47IPxAnDdtg

The army really did betray the people. :ohno: I shed a tear when I watched the video.

Wust El Balad

December 2nd, 2011, 02:08 PM

My parents keeps watching ESC-1 and they keep saying ''zawedoha awy el nas fl tahrir'' ... 3ayshen fi mulq tany :ohno:

Wust El Balad

December 4th, 2011, 02:19 AM

I love our police force outfit at the end. But hell, i see brave people.

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Wust El Balad

December 4th, 2011, 11:27 PM

@eSocialists - الاشتراكيون الثوريون

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MASRI

December 4th, 2011, 11:30 PM

Wust El Balad

December 4th, 2011, 11:33 PM

Those Socialists idealists are the prime reason coalitions (like the Egyptian Bloc) were fragmented. All they do is plan their own utopian world which will never be realized.

Ew3a tetla3 Socialists ba3d kol da. :sly: :D

actually i only posted the video because of the soundtrack, i love it soo much :) ... Don't worry for me , i'm a liberal to death.

MASRI

December 4th, 2011, 11:36 PM

actually i only posted the video because of the soundtrack, i love it soo much :) ... Don't worry for me , i'm a liberal to death.

Tamam. :D Nice photos and music fe3lan. :)

Wust El Balad

December 4th, 2011, 11:38 PM

Tamam. :D Nice photos and music fe3lan. :)

:D

Wust El Balad

December 6th, 2011, 03:13 AM

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Wust El Balad

December 6th, 2011, 05:19 AM

http://www.alwafd.org/images/news/324438265bbbbbbbbb.jpg

البرادعى: البرلمان الجديد لن يمثل المجتمع
أحذر من ثورة غضب أخرى لتحقيق مطالب الثورة

اعتبر الدكتور محمد البرادعي، المرشح المحتمل في الانتخابات الرئاسية المقبلة، أن البرلمان الجديد لن يمثل المجتمع المصري، متوقعاً انخفاض تمثيل النساء، والشباب، والأقباط،

وأن شباب الثورة يشعرون بعدم تحقيق أي من أهداف الثورة، وأن المرحلة الأولى في الانتخابات كانت بمثابة ضربة قاضية لهم، معرباً عن شعوره بالأسى من نتيجتها، ونصح الشباب الليبرالي بعدم الاستسلام ومواصلة القتال لأن الثورة مازالت موجودة، محذراً مما سماه ثورة غضب أخرى من أجل تحقيق مطالب الثورة، حسبما ذكرت وكالة رويترز
كما أعرب 'البرادعي في حوار مع وكالة 'أسوشيتد برس' الأمريكية الأحد، عن مخاوفه من تصريحات بعض العناصر السلفية عن الأديب الراحل نجيب محفوظ، ووصف أدبه بالدعارة، وحديثهم عن منع النساء من قيادة السيارات، وأن الديمقراطية مناقضة للشريعة، ووصف التصريحات بأنها صادمة، وليست إلا رسائل سريعة يرسلها الإخوان المسلمون والسلفيون لجس نبض المجتمع داخلياً وخارجياً، متوقعاً أن تترك التصريحات تداعيات اقتصادية وسياسية، داعياً الإسلاميين المعتدلين إلى 'كبح جماح المتطرفين'، لكي يطمئن العالم بأن مصر لن تسلك المسلك الديني المتطرف، والاقتداء بالنظام التركي الذي يعتبر نموذجاً لدولة إسلامية معتدلة أكثر مما هي الحال عليه في السعودية حيث تطبق الشريعة الإسلامية.
:eek: :eek:

egypt69

December 6th, 2011, 05:46 AM

What`s so shocking about that :?

Wust El Balad

December 6th, 2011, 05:30 PM

Egypt's army to give new PM extra powers: agency

CAIRO: Egypt's new prime minister said on Tuesday the ruling army would grant him extra powers, the state news agency reported, after critics accused the military of failing to give the last Cabinet enough clout.

Kamal El-Ganzoury, who has been forming a "government of national salvation," said the army would issue a decree "within hours" to hand the premier "presidential powers except those concerning the judiciary and armed forces."

He did not give further detail.

The military has jealously shielded its own broad interests from civilian oversight. But, under pressure from protests, the army has said it would cede power to civilians in mid-2012 after a presidential vote, sooner than it had planned.

The appointment of El-Ganzoury, 78, has been criticized by protesters seeking a full purge of the system because he served as prime minister in the 1990s under ousted president Hosni Mubarak. He has yet to name his new Cabinet.

State media previously said about half the Cabinet would keep posts they had under the outgoing premier, Essam Sharaf. At least two ministers staying on served when Mubarak was still in office and have survived successive reshuffles, it said.

A senior leader in the Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party, which secured the biggest chunk of votes in first round of a parliamentary election, said it was reviewing El-Ganzoury’s statement on being granted more powers.

Critics accused Sharaf's Cabinet of not carrying out deep enough reforms of the police force, which was hated for the way it crushed dissent under Mubarak. Police were accused of heavy-handed tactics in violent clashes with demonstrators last month.

The protests pushed the army to accept the resignation of Sharaf's Cabinet.

Protesters in Cairo and other cities demanding an immediate end to military rule faced teargas, pellets and rubber bullets in clashes that killed 42 people. They also accused police of firing live rounds. Officials denied this.

Politicians have also accused the army of meddling in economic policy, particularly over whether or not Egypt will sign up to a $3.2 billion financing facility from the International Monetary Fund to supports its battered economy.

Egypt first negotiated the facility this year but turned it down in the summer in part because the then finance minister said the army did not want to build up debts. The next minister said Egypt was inclined to take the funds, but the incoming minister has now said Cairo is not ready to decide.

A senior army finance official said this month that Egypt did not want foreign borrowing because it came with too many political strings attached. –Additional reporting by Ahmed Tolba

http://www.thedailynewsegypt.com/egypt/egypts-army-to-give-new-pm-extra-powers-agency.html

xAbd0o

December 8th, 2011, 11:21 PM

المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة يصدر قراراً بتشكيل المجلس الاستشاري وتحديد اختصاصاته

في إطار اللقاءات والمشاورات المستمرة لتشكيل المجلس الاستشاري .. التقى الفريق / سامي عنان – رئيس أركان حرب القوات المسلحة نائب رئيس المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة - مع عدد من مرشحي الرئاسة ورؤساء الأحزاب ورموز القوى السياسية والوطنية والشخصيات العامة بمقر وزارة الدفاع بكوبري القبة .
تناول اللقاء دراسة أسماء الشخصيات المقترحة لتشكيل المجلس الاستشاري والمهام والاختصاصات المنوط بها خلال المرحلة القادمة وإصدار قراراً يتضمن التشكيل النهائي للمجلس الاستشاري ومهامه .
ويؤكد المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة أن مهمة المجلس الاستشاري هي التي نص عليها في قرار إنشائه وهي معاونة المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة في جميع الأمور التي تهم البلاد والرأي العام وتنتهي مهمته بمجرد انعقاد مجلسي الشعب والشورى وذلك فيما يتعلق بإبداء الرأي في القوانين والاتفاقيات الدولية وتنتهي مهمة المجلس الاستشاري بإتمام انتخاب رئيس الجمهورية .. ولا صحة لما تداولته وسائل الإعلام عن استمراره إلى ما بعد انتخاب رئيس الجمهورية .. ويكون للمجلس ضم من يراه إلى عضويته توسيعاً لنطاق المشورة وحرصاً على تنوع الآراء .. وستبدأ أعمال المجلس الاستشاري بمناقشة مشروعي قانوني انتخاب رئيس الجمهورية والإجراءات الخاصة بتشكيل الجمعية التأسيسية لإعداد دستور جديد للبلاد .
يناشد المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة وسائل الإعلام بدعم الجهود التي يبذلها المجلس لتحقيق التوافق بين كافة القوى السياسية بمختلف تواجهاتها .
وفي هذا الإطار يؤكد المجلس الأعلى إلتزامه بما سبق وأعلنه من خارطة الطريق والتي سوف تنتهي في 30/6/2012 مع الالتزام بنتائج انتخابات مجلس الشعب الجاري تنفيذها تأكيداً واحتراما لإرادة الشعب المصري واختياراته .. وأن المجالس النيابية المنتخبة ستقوم بممارسة مهامها واختصاصاتها الدستورية والتشريعية كاملة .
ويهيب المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة بكافة القوى السياسية والأحزاب والرموز الوطنية في تلبية الدعوة بالانضمام وعدم الاعتذار عن المشاركة في المجلس الاستشاري خلال هذه المرحلة الهامة من تاريخ أمتنا .
حضر اللقاء السيد / عمرو موسى والدكتور / محمد سليم العوا مرشحا رئاسة الجمهورية والدكتور / عبد العزيز حجازي رئيس الوزراء الأسبق والدكتور / السيد البدوي رئيس حزب الوفد والمهندس / أبو العلا ماضي رئيس حزب الوسط والدكتور / عماد عبد الغفور رئيس حزب النور والسيد منصور حسن وكيل مجلس الشعب الأسبـق والدكتـور / أحمد كمال أبو المجد وزير الإعلام الأسبق والمستشار / تهاني الجبالي نائب رئيس المحكمة الدستورية العليا والسيد / سامح عاشور نقيب المحامين والدكتور / محمد نور فرحات رئيس الحزب المصري الديمقراطي الاجتماعي ورجل الأعمال / نجيب ساويرس والدكتور / معتز بالله عبد الفتاح أستاذ جامعي .. ومن الشخصيات العامة ( الدكتور / صلاح فضل – السيد / حنا جريس – الدكتورة / نيفين مسعد – السيد / محمد سلماوي – الدكتورة / منار الشوربجي – السيد زياد علي – الدكتور / عبد المغازي – السيد / أحمد خيري أبو اليزيد – الدكتورة / نادية مصطفى – السيد / محمد الخولي – السيد / أشرف عبد الغفور – الدكتور / عصام النظامي – السيد / شريف زهران – السيد / محمد أسامة برهان ) وعدد من أعضاء المجلس الأعلى للقوات المسلحة .

http://www.facebook.com/Egyptian.Armed.Forces

Wust El Balad

December 9th, 2011, 05:34 AM

Wust El Balad

December 12th, 2011, 04:04 AM

Egypt’s Tantawi makes surprise visit to Tahrir Square

CAIRO: Egypt’s ruler Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi paid a surprise visit to Cairo’s Tahrir Square Sunday, the epicenter of protests against him last month, after it was re-opened to traffic, state media reported.

Tantawi’s visit was “to make sure that traffic was running smoothly in the square,” where protesters gathered to force Hosni Mubarak from power in February, the state-owned Al-Ahram paper reported on its website.

Last month, protesters had again occupied the iconic square in central Cairo to demand the ouster of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces headed by Tantawi.

Fierce clashes between police and protesters on the outskirts of the square left 45 people dead.

Sunday’s trip to Tahrir was only the second public appearance by Tantawi.

In September, the military ruler took a walk in central Cairo in civilian clothes and with no personal security in tow, sparking widespread speculation that he was seeking to run for president.

His visit came as the army said only parliament will choose the makeup of a constituent assembly, appearing to retreat from earlier statements that riled Islamists and others when a general said unelected bodies would have a role in the selection process.

Under an interim constitution, parliament is responsible for picking the 100-strong assembly that will write a new constitution.

But a general last week had suggested parliament’s role would be diluted by saying the army-backed Cabinet, a consultative body to the ruling generals and parliament, would first agree on criteria for selection before any appointment.

That angered Islamists, who are on course to secure a parliamentary majority in Egypt’s staggered election. It was the second time the army has become embroiled in a row over the new constitution and then backtracked.

The consultative council is a civilian body being set up by the army to advise them during the transition. Islamist politicians have said they will not join.

Before the latest row, the army-backed Cabinet had made proposals for who should be in the constituent assembly and had proposed articles for the new constitution that would have permanently shielded the army from civilian oversight.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Article.aspx?id=156604#axzz1gHmabCvk

Wust El Balad

December 12th, 2011, 04:58 PM

Tantawi-for-president supporters resume activities

An Egyptian pro-military group on Monday resumed its campaign to collect signatures in support of electing Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi, head of the ruling Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF), as president.

Members of the Egypt Above All Coalition, the group running the campaign, hung fliers in Cairo's Ramses Square. The campaign started collecting signatures in other provinces last month.

Mahmoud Atteya, the group's general coordinator, said they decided to launch their activities from Ramses Square because it contains Egypt's main railway station and several bus stops. Atteya said his coalition believes Ramses Square is more popular than Tahrir Square, adding that nearly 6 million people pass through Ramses each day.

The campaign has collected many signatures across several governorates, according to Atteya, including 28,000 in Fayoum, 18,000 in Sharqiya, 23,000 in Sohag and 40,000 in Daqahlia. He expressed hope that the group would collect one million signatures before presidential elections.

Many activists object to electing a military leader as president. Activists were alarmed in September when Tantawi walked through downtown Cairo and shook hands with passersby; he wore plain clothes and moved through the square without a security detail. Some interpreted the move as an attempt to bolster his popularity before announcing his intention to run for president.

Tantawi maintains that the military will not field a candidate in upcoming presidential elections.

Translated from Al-Masry Al-Youm

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/545171

:storm:

Wust El Balad

December 13th, 2011, 03:07 AM

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380452_10150543764183313_89562268312_10223542_1114189829_n.jpg

Wust El Balad

December 13th, 2011, 04:29 AM

25 يناير يوم الثورة علي الحكم العسكري

http://www.facebook.com/#!/events/262298453825172/

MASRI

December 13th, 2011, 04:42 AM

^^

Waste of time. I'd volunteer for a presidential candidate instead of wasting time with elections in 6 months time. Actually, something like this would give SCAF a chance to delay elections. More importantly, by then, Parliamentary/Shura elections won't even be over!

Wust El Balad

December 13th, 2011, 06:22 AM

I know, let's all hope for the country. We should start working for h sake of country, we are doing nothing than digging our own grave.

egypt69

December 13th, 2011, 11:29 PM

Prime minister announces care center for revolution victims

Egyptian Prime Minister, Kamal al-Ganzouri, announced on Tuesday the establishment of a new center for the care of those injured during the revolution. The center will be under Ganzouri's supervision, while three of those injured will serve as board members.

Places for treatment will be specified in 52 hospitals in all governorates, particularly those with the largest numbers of victims, such as Cairo and Alexandria.

The government will give a monthly pension of LE1725 to the family of each martyr, Ganzouri said, adding that some families have also been awarded apartments.

Some 20,103 political prisoners have been released since February, and only 68 are still in prison, Ganzouri added.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/547556

Wust El Balad

December 14th, 2011, 01:05 AM

Egyptian ambassador: US unlikely to take hard line against Islamists

The US is unlikely to take a hard line against Islamists in Egypt in the event of them assuming power, Egypt’s ambassador to the US, Sameh Shoukry, has said. Shoukry added that the US administration thinks the relationship will be based on shared political interests.

The US media’s focus on Egypt’s election results stems from the 25-year conflict between Iran and the US, Shoukry said. He urged all political groups to put forward their political platforms.

Commenting on meetings between the Muslim Brotherhood and the US administration, Shoukry said the US may have been comforted by promises from the Brotherhood.

“We’re not a political institution, but rather a professional one that works for the state, not the regime, and our role is to facilitate communication between Cairo and Washington,” Shoukry said.

The Egyptian Embassy in the US helps expatriate Egyptians vote, he said, adding that only 5000 out of 20,000 registered voters living in the US had decided to exercise that right.

“The US administration will accept the elections results, as Egyptians alone have the right to choose their representatives,” he said. “The US should maintain communication with parties in Egypt until the country’s ruling policy is shaped.”

Egypt has experienced occupation before and would never accept dictation by any foreign power, said Shukry, answering questions on whether the US had created a plan for the transition to civilian government in Egypt.

He voiced hopes that Ganzouri’s government would meet people’s demands, while urging all parties to engage in dialogue.

“I wish to see the youth better represented in the new government, to reflect the spirit of the revolution,” the ambassador said.

He denied that the head of Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF), Field Marshal Mohamed Tantawi, travelled to the US during the revolution. He added that a January visit by the deputy head of the SCAF, Sami Anan, was scheduled two months before.

The US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, said in a joint press conference with British Foreign Secretary William Hague that the Egyptian people should be proud of their accomplishment in launching free elections.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/547491

DepressedAli

December 14th, 2011, 01:14 AM

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What is he doing in Egypt? ^^

Wust El Balad

December 14th, 2011, 02:04 AM

What is he doing in Egypt? ^^

^^ Supporting the revolution .... Jealous????

DepressedAli

December 14th, 2011, 02:09 AM

Yup! ^^

Wust El Balad

December 14th, 2011, 02:26 AM

Yup! ^^

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Wust El Balad

December 14th, 2011, 07:21 PM

Protesters near Interior ministry were poisoned after someone gave them 7awawshy ... More than 15 case were transported to hospital. I don't believe it was made by the security amn el dawla, counter-revolution much? The same who posted SMS death threats to all the journalist in Egypt i believe.

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Wust El Balad

December 14th, 2011, 08:58 PM

الداخلية لوت دراع الشعب 10 شهور علشان تشتغل بشروطها
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Wust El Balad

December 14th, 2011, 10:02 PM

Breaking: Apparently the family's of the Martyr's 3amalo bayan 3ala 2assas en 7ayb2a fi tar el sho7ada2 lo el wad3 mostameer, tawako3 en ta7zeer al sho7ada2 metwage7 l geish w tarma5et 2adeyet Mubarak. El nofos msh 7ateem 3'eir kosous l katala ya3ni mn el a5er , tawako3 kebir en el thowra l'gaya 7ateb2a al moga al tanya wl balad ray7a l karssa tany. W karssa di 7ateb2a ded el 7okm al 3askar

Wust El Balad

December 14th, 2011, 10:30 PM

Advisory Council to amend military law, scrap military trials for civilians

The Advisory Council has announced its intention to form a committee of legal experts to amend military law, particularly those articles allowing civilians to be referred to military tribunals.

Amin Farahat, secretary general of the Advisory Council, said the body would lay down criteria for the formation of the Constitutional Committee, so as to achieve a national consensus.

“The Constitutional Declaration did not grant the parliamentary majority the right to form that committee,” he explained.

“The military council has the constitutional power to accept or refuse those criteria, or to relinquish its legislative power to an elected parliament to decide,” he said.

Translated from Al-Masry Al-Youm

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/549736

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egypt69

December 14th, 2011, 11:01 PM

Wtf!

Cabinet sit-in hit by mass food poisoning, dozens hospitalized

Some 40 activists involved in the “Occupy Cabinet” sit-in have been transferred to hospital after suffering from food poisoning, apparently caused by free food handed out to protesters on Wednesday afternoon.

According to eye-witness reports, a woman wearing a niqab (face-veil) distributed grilled meat sandwiches — known as “hawawshi” — to protesters camped outside the cabinet building in central Cairo.

Dr. Ahmed Farouq, a volunteer physician serving at a field hospital, confirmed that "the hawawshi was delivered to the protesters at their camp, wrapped in the wrappers of a fish and seafood restaurant." The doctor added that this restaurant does not make hawawshi.

Farouq added that the protesters started falling ill nearly five hours after having consumed the food. "This may very well be a plot hatched against the protesters. It may have been prepared and distributed by remnants of the old regime who want to see this sit-in dispersed,” he said.

“It could perhaps be bad meat that was unintentionally distributed amongst the protesters,” the doctor continued. “However, I do smell the work of provocateurs and trouble makers in this incident."

Dr. Bahaa Awad, a physician present at the scene, said: "They're falling down without symptoms of food poisoning or throwing up. The large number collapsing at the same time is very strange."

Nearly 40 protesters were transferred to the Toxins Center at the nearby Qasr al-Aini Street.

Farid Abdel Hamid Allam, a protester from Kafr al-Sheikh who also ate the food, said, "I ate the inside of the sandwich, but not the bread. I threw up and fainted a bit two hours later. I felt nauseous, but I won't go into the ambulance, otherwise they’ll arrest me. They put me in the ambulance, but I left."

According to volunteer nurse Nesma Mohamed, "The hawawshi was distributed by a woman who was not recognized by any of the protesters." The nurse added, "She came with a large supply of this food, distributed it and left immediately."

According to Mohamed, more than 35 protesters had been admitted to the toxins center by early Wednesday evening, displaying a number of symptoms, such as vomiting, intense sweating, and fainting.

"I saw the meat, and it didn't look like normal meat,” said the nurse. “In any case, we have samples of this meat and it is being analyzed at the moment. The results will tell us if it was bad meat or poisoned meat."

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/549886

Wust El Balad

December 15th, 2011, 01:26 AM

Tehran, Tel Aviv issue conflicting statements on fate of Camp David

Leaders in Iran and Israel have given oposing visions of what Egypt’s recent revolution means for its 32-year-old Camp David peace treaty with Israel.

“The emergence of Islamic governments in North Africa has become irreversible,” said Ali Akbar Velayati, chief adviser to Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. “Egypt will never go back to the circumstances that made her sign the peace treaty with Israel.”

“The Islamic awakening of the Middle East is not in the interests of the West and Israel, who are no longer able to impose their policies on Muslims,” Velayati said in statements published in the Financial Times newspaper on Wednesday.

He also said that the Turkish secular system is not suitable for the Arab Spring. “It is a replica of the liberal democracy of the West,” he said.
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The newspaper claimed that Iran and Turkey are competing over the future of the Arab Spring, with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, during recent visits to Tunisia and Egypt, calling for the separation of the state from religion.

Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he expects any government in Egypt to keep the peace treaty and protect the security of Sinai.

But he also said that Israel should speed up construction of a separation wall along its borders with Egypt. “Infiltrators from Sinai damage our economy, infrastructure and internal security,” he said at a Knesset meeting on Sunday.

Translated from Al-Masry Al-Youm

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/549921

My dream would be a turkish stylized constitution but too early to talk about the future of the constitution.

Wust El Balad

December 15th, 2011, 05:38 PM

Kalam 5atirrrrrrrrrrr

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Wust El Balad

December 15th, 2011, 05:58 PM

Ya salammmmmmmm, yeslam fomak ya 3am :cool:

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Wust El Balad

December 16th, 2011, 05:17 PM

clashes between the army and protesters in front the cabinet of ministry :ohno:

Wust El Balad

December 16th, 2011, 05:20 PM

where are we going?

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Wust El Balad

December 16th, 2011, 06:07 PM

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Wust El Balad

December 16th, 2011, 06:16 PM

Live update: SCAF advisory council to demand explanation for clashes

6:00 pm: "[The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) advisory council] will try to urge the SCAF to issue a statement to explain the [clashes today]," presidential hopeful Mohamed Selim al-Awa tells Al-Masry Al-Youm.

The advisory council will hold a meeting at 7 pm to discuss the crisis, Awa adds.

5:30 pm: Darkness is making it difficult for protesters to spot where rocks being thrown at them are coming from.

5:20 pm: Presidential hopeful Mohamed ElBaradei criticizes the way military police broke up the sit-in outside the cabinet building, describing it as "barbaric," "brutal," and "the greatest violation to all human laws."

He also blasts the authorities' handling of the crisis: "This is not the way countries should be managed."

ElBaradei wonders why the military police intervened to break up the sit-in, if the prime minister is now supposed to have the executive powers of the president of the republic, according to a recent SCAF decree.

"What are the powers of the military police to intervene? Where is credibility and who is in charge?" he asks.

ElBaradei also criticizes the advisory council, saying it is "just a front" for the SCAF.

"Was the advisory council consulted before [the military] used excessive force to break up the sit-in? And if it was not consulted, does this mean it is just a front?" he concludes.

5:15 pm: People are throwing Molotov cocktails down on protesters from the top of the People's Assembly building.

4:30 pm: "The [ongoing] clashes [around the cabinet building and Qasr al-Aini Street] are meant to create chaos, as each time Egypt is close to achieving stability, a new problem is created," says a military source.

An army officer has been injured by a live bullet and transferred to a military hospital as a result of the clashes, the source adds.

"There are desperate attempts aiming to undermine Egypt's stability and drag the country into chaos, especially during the [parliamentary] elections," the source continues. "Some forces began to feel that Egypt was moving on the path to stability through elections, meaning they would lose the legitimacy of their presence in [Tahrir] Square. This prompted them to create standoffs with security forces."

New Prime Minister Kamal al-Ganzouri has refused to comment on the clashes or further explain the developments around the cabinet building.

Ganzouri canceled all his meetings today, including TV interviews, to monitor the situation, holding phone calls with the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) and Interior Ministry officials.

4:00 pm: At least one person injured in the clashes today may have been hit by live ammunition, says Eva Boutros, director of the field hospital set up near the Protestant church on Qasr al-Dubara Street.

Earlier today: Thirty-six people were injured as of 4 pm Friday when military forces and unidentified people attacked a sit-in outside the cabinet building, Assistant Health Minister Adel al-Adawy told Al-Masry Al-Youm.

Clashes continued on Qasr al-Aini Street, with protesters reporting hearing gunshots, and protesters and military forces throwing stones at each other.

At around 4:30 pm, protesters lit a large fire in the middle of Qasr al-Aini, in an attempt to obscure the visions of those throwing stones at protesters from buildings overhead. Fighting was primarily occuring on three fronts, the upper and lower roofs of a nearby building and at the front of Maglis al-Shaab Street. Protesters were throwing rocks at unkonwn assailants who were throwing rocks, ceramics, and fixtures from nearby buildings, including wall hangings with Quranic verses on them, back at them, according to eyewitnesses.

Another eyewitness said that assailants throwing rocks from the tops of nearby buildings were armed had pistols slung around their backs.

Essam Kamel, a medic in a field hospital set up in front of the Mugamma administrative building near Tahrir Square, said that his hospital had received about seven people injured with live bullets in the previous two hours, in addition to receiving dozens of protesters at dawn.

Two members of the recently formed advisory council to the ruling military council, Moataz Bellah Abdel Fattah and Ahmed Khairy, resigned in protest of the military police's use of violent force.

Abdel Fattah said he expects other advisory council members to follow him in resigning, as he is opposed to the "unjustified violence of the miliary police against peaceful protesters."

Lawyer Zeyad al-Alaimy, a parliamentary candidate heading the Egyptian Bloc's list in Cairo's fourth constituency, said he was beaten by military police breaking up the cabinet sit-in early Friday morning.

"Once I heard protesters were being assaulted I headed to the sit-in, where hundreds of military personnel had attacked protesters just before I arrived," he said.

"When I reached the area a group of military soldiers surrounded me and an officer told me: 'Do not think the People's Assembly will protect you,'" Alaimy recalled.

Sheikh Mazhar Shaheen, the popular imam of Omar Makram Mosque who frequently preaches at protests in Tahrir, criticized the military for "assaulting peaceful protesters outside the cabinet building" in his Friday morning sermon.

"We want to achieve the demands of the revolution," Shaheen went on. "We do not feel that there is any kind of change [in reality]," he said, adding that remnants of the former regime of Hosni Mubarak continue to lead.

After Friday prayers, Shaheen and a number of worshipers headed to Qasr al-Aini Street to check on the situation there, and then returned to Tahrir.

Early Friday morning, army and Central Security Forces could be seen spread out on both Qasr al-Aini and Maglis al-Shaab streets, which were covered with broken glass and rocks. A 59-year-old woman was seen being beaten by military officers.

A group of activists were detained by military and security forces and being held inside the People's Assembly building as of noon Friday, activist Mona Seif told Egypt Independent. While in custody inside the building, Seif reported watching police slap an old woman in the face. She said that police were treating protesters like they had a "personal vendetta" against them.

At around 1 pm, protesters began to be released. Most of them were women and looked badly beaten.

According to witnesses, military forces threw stones and furniture at them from the cabinet building and nearby parliament building, as well as sprayed water hoses at them from atop the parliament building. Several cars were set on fire in the surrounding streets.

Mostafa Bahgat, a cameraman for the OnTV satellite channel, told Egypt Independent that he was assaulted on a side street near the cabinet building by two civilians, who beat one of his legs, stole his camera and ran toward army officers.

A protester showed Al-Masry Al-Youm a prison ID card that fell out of the pocket of a man attacking the sit-in along with soldiers. The protester said it was proof that thugs were hired by the military to attack the sit-in.

In response to the early morning attack, protesters blocked off Qasr al-Aini Street with steel barricades and symbolic coffins.

The sit-in protesters said that the clashes started after one of their fellow protesters, Aboudi Ibrahim, was kidnapped at night. Ibrahim was reportedly arrested by police, beaten and electrocuted, before being released. He was transferred to the nearby Qasr al-Aini Hospital.

As the clashes escalated, protesters sang anti-military and anti-police chants, known to be primarily sung by ultras — or hardcore football fans.

Some 200 protesters have continued to sleep outside the cabinet building to oppose the appointment of the cabinet of Prime Minister Kamal al-Ganzouri. The sit-in began on 24 November, when the military council nominated Ganzouri to be prime minister. Ganzouri had served as prime minister under the toppled regime of Hosni Mubarak.

The sit-in followed week-long clashes between security forces and protesters on Mohamed Mahmoud Street, off Tahrir Square, which left at least 45 dead and scores injured.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/552516

Both side are acting really stupidly... We don't even know who was behind the coup of the hawawshy.... Totally stupid.

Wust El Balad

December 16th, 2011, 07:21 PM

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Wust El Balad

December 17th, 2011, 05:08 AM

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MASRI

December 17th, 2011, 06:04 AM

Wust El Balad

December 17th, 2011, 06:25 AM

^^

Makes sense in my opinion. Why would SCAF keep engaging with protesters....they made it through the unrest last month...why put themselves in a similar situation again?

It makes no sense for them to do so....and it is obvious that elements of the former regime always breed on unrest to fragment society even further.

But again, the actions of soldiers are unacceptable. I don't know what to think anymore!

It makes sense indeed.... Why would SCAF be engaged with protesters? But thething is the fact that a simple hawawshy story brought the issue to a whole new level which resulted to an engaging fight between protesters and the army. I mean, is that so easy to wreck the country into pieces? The army said it many times, they don't want to stay in power and Tantawi vowed to finish what he started. If that's the case, who is taking benifit by creating chaos in the country? Only Hezb el watany remnants would like to see the army and egyptians fighting eachothers only to prove the fact that egyptians do not deserve democracy & the revolution.

I don't blame the army, they have barbaric way to deal with the issue, lo 3andohom dam, lazem yesalemo el solta fi aksa wa2t .

Both side are acting stupid, i think the issue should have been dealt otherwise.... I don't know why but each time we see better, we go back to the darkness of the old days . We don't need further escalation. A coincidence that the egyptian boxing was planned today but left behind with wht is happening smh :ohno:

egypt69

December 17th, 2011, 07:07 PM

8 dead, 299 injured in cabinet clashes

Eight protesters have been killed and 299 injured during a crackdown on a sit-in outside the cabinet building in Cairo, the Ministry of Health told state news agency MENA on Saturday.

Those who have died are Adel Abdel Rahman Moselhy, 20, Alaa Mohamed Abdel Hady, 22, Mohamed Abdallah Mohamed, 30, Ashraf Omar Ahmed Ali, 16, Emad Eddin Effat, 52, Ahmed Mohamed Mansour, 27, and two others who are yet to be identitied.

Five died at the old Qasr al-Aini hospital, two at the new Qasr al-Aini hospital, and one at the Hilal hospital.

An earlier toll put the dead at three and injured at 257.

Protesters said the clashes outside the cabinet started after a fellow protester, Aboudi Ibrahim, was kidnapped during the early hours of Friday. Ibrahim was reportedly arrested by police, and beaten and electrocuted before being released to go back to the sit-in.

The sit-in started after the appointment of Kamal al-Ganzouri as prime minister on 24 November, which followed week-long clashes between security forces and protesters on Mohamed Mahmoud Street, off Tahrir Square. Those clashes left at least 45 dead and scores injured, and led to the resignation of previous Prime Minister Essam Sharaf.

Media reports say that eight members of the recently formed, 35-member advisory council to the ruling military council have resigned since yesterday in protest of the military police's use of violence.

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/554176

(VIDEO): Egyptian military police attacks protesters in Tahrir Square, builds new wall

Eyewitnesses say the military and plain-clothed men beat protesters and medics while clearing Tahrir Square; Video shows Egyptian security forces attacking protesters; army builds new concrete barrier

Read article: http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/0/29545/Egypt/0/VIDEO-Egyptian-military-police-attacks-protesters-.aspx

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Egypt witnesses day of military violence as funerals turn into anti-SCAF rallies

Tensions between demonstrators and the military escalate as martyrs' funerals march from different areas of Cairo while Tahrir is again evacuated by force; politicians condemn SCAF

Read article: http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/29589/Egypt/Politics-/Egypt-witnesses-day-of-military-violence-as-funera.aspx

Military police burn medical supplies, detain doctors

Military police burned medical supplies and detained a number of doctors at the field hospital at Omar Makram Mosque on Saturday, Ahmed Hussein, a board member of Egypt's Doctors Syndicate, told Al-Badeel newspaper.

Hussein added that three injured people, Mohamed Mahmoud Hanafy, Mohamed Abou Soud, and Tamer Ismail, who left the hospital to seek x-ray examinations, have disappeared.

The Omar Makram Mosque is located in Cairo's Tahrir Square.

The Tahrir Doctors Organization published a statement on its Facebook page saying that 15 doctors and nine injured people, some in serious condition, are being held inside the Omar Makram Mosque. The statement added that military police threatened to arrest doctors if they attempted to leave.

Several doctors have been arrested by military and intelligence members in other field hospitals in mosques and churches, the statement added.

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Article continues: http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/554721

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Extreme army brutality against peaceful protesters:

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Army brutality against an old woman:

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Dragging bodies down streets:

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Two of the martyrs. One a senior figure at Al Azhar University and one a 25 year old medical student.

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